April 26, 2024 • 59 mins
In episode 1666, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian behind the new comedy special Loopholes, Kate Willett, to discuss… Maine Officially Becomes Trans And Abortion Care Sanctuary State, America Keeps Mistreating Peaceful Protesters, Meta Has Strong Policies Against Sex Work--Sorry... HUMAN Sex Work... AI Is Totally Fine and more!
- Maine Officially Becomes Trans And Abortion Care Sanctuary State
- GOP AGs warn Maine to kill 'totalitarian' bill making sanctuary state for sex-change surgeries, or be sued
- Bomb threats sent to Maine State House, 2 legislators, Democratic Party
- Meta Has Strong Policies Against Sex Work--Sorry... HUMAN Sex Work... AI Is Totally Fine
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three thirty five,
Episode five.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Of Daily's Guys. Yeah.
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It's a podcast where we take a deepdabnue America Shared consciousness.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
It's gross in here.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
In America Share consciousness right now. It's it's nasty. The
pool is not You can ignore it if you want.
I guess the water is not lovely. It fucking sucks.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Yes it is. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
It is Friday, April twenty six, twenty twenty four four.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
That's two fudditional Historic Marker Day. I guess. That's like
when there's like signs that are like this is here
by a historical site. It's like, yeah, shout out to
those needed day, shout out to those inanimate objects. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
It's also America's favorite thing. Inanimate object we like more
than people folks.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Yeah, yeah, as long as they have fun things written
on National South Dakota Day. It's National Dissertation Day, National
help a Horse Day, National Hairball Awareness Day, National Pretzel Day,
not just so many fucking days, National Kids in Pet's Day.
Oh shit, we were just talking about earthquakes. It's National
Richter Scale Day and National Richter audobond day for all
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the bird people out there, y'all, burden is your day. Yeah,
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My name's Jack O'Brien aka.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
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were like, this is you. I'm successful and then did
such a good impression that it was successful. Anyways, I'm
thrilled to be joined as always by my co host
ms are Miles Grass Miles Gray aka spilled on my wall.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
This whole thing is fucked. That's Zach Finness. Yeah, I
spilled my big ass cup of water everywhere, and yeah,
the whole thing was fucked.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
But big spill YEP starring Kevin Klein Miles We are
thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a
hilarious comedian, actress writer you know from places like Netflix's
comedy lineup. She's the author of the audible original dirt
Bag Anthropology, and her new stand up special Loopholes, just dropped.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Go stream it. It's Kate Weller. Welcome, Welcome. How are
you OK.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I'm doing pretty good. I mean, like personally, I'm doing
pretty good.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah, the world is crazy.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
The world's crazy.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah, it's a very intense time. But like personally, you know,
I got a comedy special, a boyfriend, I got two cats.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
You god damn the cats. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, what
can you ask more for? You know, I get it.
In these times, we just have to retreat into our
cats sometimes. Yeah, I know, I know, you have no man.
I just I have vivid memories of even like in
twenty twenty, like holding like my dog, like you have
no idea, do you?
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yeah? I know I had a moment of like visceral
jealousy towards my cat right like where I was just like,
oh my God, Like he has literally no idea that
any of this stuff is going on.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
He's just like he's just like simple.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
The main thing that happens every day is that the
mommy slash god lady brings me food and then cats me.
That's what's happening in the world. That's the breaking news.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Yeah, exactly. Oh yellow socks today, okay, yeah, and that's
about it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Damn your cat use you as mommy slash god lady
instead of personal assistant. That's impressive. You have a you
have a strong relationship.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
I actually have two cats, and what views me as
a personal.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
System and one as mother god.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yes, mother god mommy. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
There's something about just napping in a sunbeam when I see,
like when I would see my dogs do that, that
just like made me so like it's just so simple,
so comfortable.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
You don't do that. I do that. You find a
little sunbeam on the floor, and just when LA has
that like switch, you're like, oh shit, we're consistently warm now,
like we're out of this. Like do I wear sleeves today?
Like I don't, Like I will. I used I will
go shirtless and just put my back on hot concrete
and just be like, oh so, I don't know, it's
like a pastime I have. I do it a lot.
(04:44):
There's I start sending like a fucking lizard. I mean
I love that. I love that for you. I like
how I was like you don't do that, Bros.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Driveway just like warming yourself, like a list of concrete.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
There's just something about hot concrete, like when it feels
like when it's cold in your house. I don't know,
it's very it's very invited. Damn man, I don't know
what's wrong with me? Why I'm not doing that? Amazing?
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Well, Kate, we are going to get to know you
a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going
to tell the listeners a couple of things that we're
talking about.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
We have some good news out.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Of Maine that I wanted to bring up. Maine has
officially become a trans and abortion care sanctuary state. So
we'll talk about that and what they had to overcome
a lot of death threats, a lot of terroristic threats
to get there.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Meta's strong policies against sex work. As long as said
sex work is being performed by humans AI, that shit
is totally fine.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Ahead, They're down with that.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Robot work is real works.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Right, is what we are here to say. Right, All
that plenty more. But first, Kate, we do like to
ask our guests, what is is something from your search history?
Speaker 2 (06:03):
I was recently this morning, I was reading up on
the Supreme Court grants pass versus Organs. You guys know
about that case. Did you talk about it?
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Yeah? Is it is? It? Is it a criminal act
to be unhoused?
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah, I'm very I do a lot of reading about
housing politics, and that one is it's just mind blowing
that they're like thinking about, you know, criminalizing just like
being outside if you have no place else to go.
I don't know, sorry, but I hate the Supreme Court.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Yeah, yeah, no, Yeah, we were just talking on was
it Tuesday? Tuesday's episode with Rihann and Hamam from the
five to four Supreme Court podcast about that.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
It's a great podcast.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Yeah, yeah, she's she's dope as fuck. I think she
actually just got arrested at the University of Texas, you know,
protesting on behalf of Palestinians. But yeah, we were talking
about that, and it's just you know this, it's the
Supreme Court is doing what it's doing, Like there is
a rock that has been created from just on what's
the word I'm looking for, untethered American, unmitigated American capitalism,
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and now we have to now just create laws that
are just trying to contain all that rather than addressing
the real root causes. It's like, well, we could do
something about housing policy, but that's that's going to get
in the way of the quote market, so we'll just
make it illegal if you failed at the game of
surviving in America.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I think that, like you know,
speaking of like the protests that you were just mentioning,
like it's just becoming very clear that like literally the
plan for every single issue in this country is police,
like police or the housing plan. Police are the foreign
policy plan. Police are the substance abuse plan. You know,
(07:52):
it's just every every single problem people just you know,
by people, I mean, like the people in power see
the same solution to it.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Absolutely, and I think that there be noted by people
to understand that like those are like using law enforcement
and state violence, like those are the responses of you know,
authoritarian regimes.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Like yeah, I believe that a police state, state state
that just I mean Joe Biden, you know, he did
it in his like foggy old guy way, but he was,
you know, giving a speech about he was like responding
to the idea of defunding the police or you know,
(08:35):
funding the police even a little bit less, and he
was like, we don't need to defund the police. I mean,
come on, they're they're your therapist there, you're like he
he was using the fact that the police are answer
to everything as like the reason to fund them. More
like he was like, then that's a good thing and
we should should double down, triple down on that. And
(08:59):
I feel like a lot of people or like, man,
that's that's dumb, but like this is the consequence of that.
When the police are your everything, the police are my everything.
You guys I just said about beer cause of a.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yeah, yeah, only losers think the police are the solution
to everything, winners. I think cats are the solution.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
To every that's right. Cats and mushrooms, yeahroom.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Cats and lasers on their heads, right, Yeah, Sorry, am
I did I.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Fuck this up? That would I think that would fuck
with a cat though, if a cat had a like,
because it would just be chasing the fucking laser of
its own creation. I feel like that's that's now in
my mind, like that's actually cool for a laser mounted
cat or cat.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
No, you're right, it should probably be flame throwers, right,
because they don't chase flame throwers in my experience. No, yeah,
what is something you think is underrated?
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Kate, Well, I'm going to change my are because my
original answer.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Was cats and were coover this take off.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
So there's a podcast that I love so much. I
have nothing to do with. This podcast is just really
like it. It's called Citations Needed, and they do like
media critique, and you know, they just really really go
into like, you know, the framings on New York Times, Atlantic,
(10:27):
you know, so many of these like mainstream news sources,
like you know, on things like policing on you know,
the housing crisis, and I just I really love their work.
That's like been such a huge source of education for me.
And I feel like it's a very popular podcast, but
it should be like twelve thousand times more famous than
(10:48):
it is.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Yeah, there's a lot of popular podcasts. Yeah, it's good.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
It's good to hear about this one. So I don't
understand those that do they just read the New York Times.
How could you criticize the New York Times. They're objective
and just the paper.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Record, the records.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
So yeah, you know, lady, Yeah, because democracy does in
the dark, and.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
That's Washington Post actually, dud. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Also, but they're both like same in that they're just
writing truth into existence.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
So I don't know, yeah, I mean their source is
the police for all of it. But even this other
story about energy according to police, You're like, wait, what.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Uh huh yeah, ship according to police, wind power, wind
energy kills a lot of birds.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Yeah right that wait, so that I'm like, I've I've
heard of the podcast before. But it's essentially just sort
of dissecting, disassembling what sort of like these headlines are
and just being like and this is where it goes
completely backwards.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
It's more like looking at various media tropes a lot
of the time, Like you know, for example, one thing
that they've been talking a lot about lately, not to
get too dark here, is like you know, the this
frame of like precision strikes and like human shields and
(12:13):
like all of this kind of language that the mainstream
you know, corporate media uses to like really kind of
paper over like the violence of these things, and just
just like they really dissect what, you know, what those
tropes really mean, and they'll have experts and scholars on,
(12:33):
you know, to talk about like you know, what watch
US international law actually say. But they also talk a
lot about policing too, and you know, like the idea
that you're just making fun of of, like you know,
just interviewing the police for like statements about policing. So yeah,
(12:54):
they're really really good podcast. It's two media critics who
are both you know, I think I've done a lot
of work with fairness and accuracy in reporting the nation
other left and publications.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Now I'm total precision on strike. Just I mean, you
have smart bombs, so they'll like just fly in through
a single window. Yeah, look around the room for the
bad guy. Yeah, introduce themselves to the bad guy and
then ask them to step outside where they can safely
blow them up. Is that incorrect? Is that are the
(13:27):
Are the strikes not that precise? Because that's what I
was led.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
To believe in the early nineties. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Yeah, when I had fucking gummy snacks for desert storm.
By the way, like the kids that I went to
school with had like b two bomber gummy snacks.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Dude, I remember those. Yeah, that's wild.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Yeah, the stealth but if you got the stealth bomber,
holy shit, everyone was like the secret flavor.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Yeah, no, who can figure out what it is? Yeah,
it's called thunder jets, wasn't it. I think that's right. Yeah, dude,
I remember that shit. I was like, bro, I was like, Mom,
I need to eat at F sixteen. I'm sorry that.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Is I'm going to hand you this new nutrition chart
and F sixteen's is a major food group.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
And then I'm like, oh, a yellow F sixteen that's
lemon growth. It's just running down your chin. Yeah, totally
shit like this. Norman Shorts cough. Yeah. Yeah. They tried
to make Norman and successfully for a couple of years,
like made Norman Shorts cough like a celebrity, a cool guy.
(14:34):
I had fucking Desert Storm Ninja Turtles. Yeah. I had
those ships where like Leonardo was like a fucking Air
Force pilot and shit, I'm like, yes, we will take
down so don Yeah yeah, Ninja Turtle Bay. All right,
what is something you think is overrated?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
I think the TikTok band or I don't know if
it's fair to call it a band at this point,
because we don't really know if they're, you know, gonna
sell the if my dance was gonna sell it or not,
if it will continue to exist in the United States.
But to me, you know, that's very overrated. Like I'm seeing,
you know, various proponents of this band, you know'll be like, well,
(15:11):
like social media is bad, and you know there are
data privacy concerns, which is true with all social media,
but like banning this app specifically. You know, it's to me,
it seems to be about two things. One which is,
you know, like, oh, China, that's so scary, you know,
(15:32):
just this kind of like really stupid.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
You know. Yeah, but did you know that they like
beat people up for speaking out against their government's policies. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
oh no, that's okay, but yeah, go on.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Yeah, do you know that they do surveillance in China
that they're just the government looking at your looking at
your private messages. It's out of control.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Yeah yeah. And I feel like everybody who ends up
trying to like justify the TikTok band like they're just
showing their ass in every single way. Like to your point,
it's like, if it's about privacy, then what about the
fucking American companies? Yeah you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Yeah, I mean, to me, this just seems like it's
like a you know, either there's like some corporate interests
that are you know, hoping to buy it like.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
American protect American technological hegemony, you know what I mean.
It's like this app is kicking our apps asses? Are
our countries apps? Asses? Oh yeah? Fuck? That's one version.
And then there's just like very casual way of trying
to explain away why younger people are more engaged and
outraged by what is happening in the country. I've been like,
(16:43):
it's fucking TikTok. It's not the fucking policies that we
enact that create the hellscape in which they live that's
radicalizing them. It's this fucking thing that tells you to
add more sugar to your watcher.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And you know, and I think that's
a lot of it too. It's like, you know, there's
just they don't have, you know, control over whatever, like
you know sense like all the social media apps do
censorship to some degree, Like you know, like on TikTok,
there is censorship, like you can't say sex, so people
(17:17):
that's why they say segs, which is extremely annoying. It's
really annoying when like gen Z college students will like
type like segs on Twitter or something that you don't
we don't do that here, say.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Like grown ups come on now.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Yeah, but you know there's like there's a there's different
censorship right like China, and like, well it's not there's
just like I think it's isn't it the CEOs like
he is in Singapore, right, But either way, TikTok is
not there. Like censorship is not based on like US
(18:00):
foreign policy interest, right, so they're not going to like
censor stuff just because it looks bad for the United States,
like whereas like you know, New York Times, we see,
you know, has like you know, specific policy is to
you know, censor the language of their journalists and reporters,
to to not you know, to not go the department line.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
It was a blast. It was not an Israeli bomb.
It was a blast. The protests turned violent when the
police started becoming violent, which is a mach we always X,
we're gonna get that out of there. Just just the
protests turned violent, Yeah, turned violent.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
I mean it's like I think it's just like they
don't like when if I think about like the Iraq
War a lot, and that was you know, I think
like really my political awakening, like I knew and every
when I knew, you knew that this like weapons of
mass destruction thing was a lie. I felt like it
was pretty obvious, you know, but we you know, had
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the media is just repeating this WTMT lie again and again.
And now it's not like they can't really lie to
us in the same way a lot of the time
because we can see videos ourselves of what's happening. So
it's more like instead of lying, it's more like just
gas lighting. They're like, no, that's not what you saw.
(19:28):
That's don't believe your eyes, you know.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Yeah, and if you disagree, like we're going to hit you.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Yeah, And the reason you disagree is actually just China
has infiltrated your brain.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
And that's I don't even have TikTok. I just I
just saw a news clip.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Yeah, but you were people, people who have TikTok told
you that.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Actually, So I'm seventy has TikTok. Yeah, it's yeah, it's uh,
that's why it's like really interesting. Like we talk all
the time about how the sort of propaganda playbook that
the government tries to run just it's diminishing returns. At
this point, it's like they're time to be like that's
actually not what's going on. Everyone's like you think we're
fucking dumb or somebody else like this ain't fuck, This
(20:08):
ain't the nineties brouh.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Yeah you were like really recently, no, could you give
us a break here?
Speaker 3 (20:14):
We are used to Yeah, you guys being dumb. Dude. Yeahah,
you used to know, seventeen year old fucking pushing back
like that. What the fuck was that? Yeah? Kid fucking
flamed me? What the fuck? I mean?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
There's you know, there's like uh, I mean, you know
there's these like State Department and White House press conferences
where they come out and they repeat these, you know,
things that are obviously lies. You know, like for example,
like one thing you know was that Israel is not
(20:46):
blocking aid to Gaza, right, and you know, like we
can see videos of like the AID trucks not being
let in. We can even see individuals saying like hey,
I've gone here to block this aid. We can see
every you know, un or other humanitarians, you know, staff
person saying like hey, we're trying to get this aid
(21:08):
and they're not letting the truck in, you know, and
then they go out and they like the State Department,
you know, spokes for us in will go out and
repeat like, oh, there's there's no evidence that they're blocking
the AID, and it's like they know, we know, they know,
we know. So it's just gaslighting. It's not even lying anymore.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Yeah and yeah, and then you deal with shit boiling
over like it is now because exactly can only tell
somebody they're not seeing what they're seeing for so long.
And yeah, I hope that it just goes away anyway, Biden,
you're doing a great job courting the youth vote. Just
cracking skulls on campuses, yeah, arresting professors. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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you got this.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Remember Biden's campaign ad, the Charlottesville one. It was like
about like restoring the soul of our nation or something
like that, you know, and it's like, how's that going, man?
Speaker 3 (21:57):
You know? Yeah, I mean I think that it's the
same soul. It switches, you know, as as American capitalism
and neoliberalism will do just it just we lurch more
further and further towards authoritarianism.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
It's reminded me of like this morning, I kept being
reminded of that time in the twenty I think it
was twenty fifteen, maybe twenty sixteen Republican primary where they
were like, oh, yeah, no, it would be great if
Trump won.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Are you kidding me? We're gonna fucking demolish this guy.
It's gonna be right, so easy. But like there was
probably some level of like and if he wins, like
we can get like we become left even by being yeah,
what is currently the GOP party.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Yeah, like we can get away with so much we
like take up we get so much more ground now
by like the if he keeps going further and further
to the right, so like this morning, like as he's
from the Supreme Court, you know, his lawyers are arguing
that he can do purge and you know, meanwhile, the
(23:06):
Democratic fucking administration is just out here pulling a Nixon
administration like on on protesters. It's like, yeah, I mean
that's what having this uber right wing like dictatorial regime
dangling over everyone's head like buys them. Like I do
(23:26):
wonder if that was like part of the calculus from
the start.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
I think that you know, it's like the Republicans are
just going to keep getting like more and more fascist,
and the Democrats can just you know, keep getting more
and more fascist as well, because like, you know, there's
like this rhetoric that like the other the other guy,
the Republicans will be worse, Like that can be it
(23:51):
can be literally used to justify anything, like there's no
limit to what it can be used to justify. And
I think we've seen that with like the Gouzel situation
is like you know, you'll you'll see people like be
like you know, oh well, like Trump would do ten
genocides and it's like.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
What and in this one, I'm like to fuck up
and let Biden ignore this one?
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Oh yeah, yeah, fund this one. That's what's so wild too,
because like, as I you know, we keep hearing about
you know, the the what the what the Republican will
Republicans will bring if Trump is president. But as you
look at it, I'm like, I'm you're you're you're brutalizing
peaceful protesters just like they were doing in twenty twenty
and years past every single time, And I'm like, is
(24:41):
it the only difference going to be It's like, well,
Biden will just allow students to be tasered and maced
and Trump would probably allow like full blown guns like
maybe a week in or something like that. Yeah, But
are we still dealing with the fact that we are
not allowing peaceful, non violent protest to happen, because that's
the up. And yeah, I'm like, you got it. I'm
(25:03):
doing a really bad job differentiating here, really bad job.
And that's on you. Actually, that's on you in your
brain do diffructiating. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
So yeah, oh so you want Trump? No, I never
I don't want Trump. No, I know, I never said, well,
it sounds like you want Trump. I'm no, I'm saying
we need to be we need to be holding ship
to a higher standard. That's and people are fucking up bad.
That's what I'm saying. You said you want to be
holding ship.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
So dude, this guy's a fun Did you hear the
studio city was a whole This guy was the whole
ship man.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
No, anyways, you've done me, The media done me. Yeah,
got his ass. Yeah, all right, let's say, let's take
a quick break and we'll be right back.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
And we're back and small little island of good news,
Maine officially becomes a trans and abortion care sanctuary state.
This is after attacks from transphobic online influencers, legal threats
from a group of Republican Attorneys general, multiple bomb threats
(26:20):
targeting the state House, the main Democratic Party headquarters, and
the homes of two legislators. Maine has officially become the
sixteenth state to explicitly protect transgender and abortion care and
state law for prosecution from prosecution after Governor Janet Mills
of Maine signed the LD two to twenty seventh Sanctuary Bill.
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So an amazing piece of legislation.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Yeah, they're also saying that it's like, yo, we're not
going to cooperate with people trying to come in and
you know what's the word I'm looking for when they extradition,
like extradition extradite yeah, yeah, or or cooperation with law
enforcement out of state for people who are like they
can to Maine for gender affirming care and it's like, yeah, sorry,
like you can't, Like we're not stay the fuck out
(27:05):
because that's what we're trying to do. Yeah, A very
a nice I thought for first, when he said an island,
I thought you were calling Maine an island, and I
was like, in a way, I kind of I'm not
good at geography. Okay, the the humble island of Maine. Yes, yes,
I mean like that's it feels like it up there.
Up there on the tip there.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
It's a really beautiful, enormous state that I mean, it's
it's also very rural. You see someone shut up in
Maine if you ever do drive through ord Air. The
extensive new law means the gender affirming care and reproductive
healthcare are legal rights in Maine and states that criminal
and civil actions against providers and patients are not enforceable
(27:48):
if the provision or access to the care occurred within
Maine's borders. So yeah, like Miles said, like they can't
other states can't come in and basically you know, issue
arrest warrants.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
I mean until they tryntill they Yeah, that's kind of
the fucking weird part is that, Yeah, we're having to
just sort of codify it in this very specific ways.
I don't even think that if you have fucking wacky
laws on your books wherever you are, that you can
come in and start running shit over here. But yeah,
oh wow, but it sounds like a full on terror
campaign to try and stop this.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
It's really like I do. Also, I wanted to bring
this up because it just like as we talked about
on yesterday's Trending episode, as we talked about already on
this episode. The treatment of peaceful protesters in the in
the US right now is at the forefront of everyone's mind,
and on social media you see a lot of people
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who don't want this to be the case, who are
like they weren't actually that peaceful, like they were, you know,
scaring people and.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Sitting down on the grass.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Yeah, well that's like, you know, that can be a opinion. Okay,
that could be a thing gesture. But like, first of all,
the two places, like I keep seeing people compare it
to like being like well back in the seventies and sixties,
like we were peaceful protesters, and it's like compared to them,
know the fuck you were not like that at Kent State.
(29:17):
Like the things that the peaceful protesters at Kent State
did would buy today's standards by these people said, like
they broke a bank window or something broke like a
shop window, they like that would that would be cause
for like the entire nation to be thrown into fucking
lockdown today, Like they they like jokingly told students to
(29:39):
kill their parents, like at the Kent State thing, and
like that was used as justification to like bring in
the National Guard. But like those would be read as
like declarations of all at war on America were they
to be done today by a group of like pro
Palestinian protesters, Like yeah, and then you have this on
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the right, like the things that they're doing, like the
the bomb threats, the just like threat physical threats of
violence that like constantly happen on the right and just
get completely fucking ignored by the mainstream media.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Like this is just it's like a.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Detail of a of an alternate story. But it's like
not not the focus, not like you know, the no,
nobody wants to like make that a front page news story.
It's just the the double standard is pretty incredible and
has been for years. Like you know, the anti abortion
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like violence that has happened is like the one type
of violence like that that is like ideological that does
not get called terrorism.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Usually they're just like.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Yeah, they blew up a clinic, but it's like, no,
that's fucking that they're killing people along ideological lines like that.
That's terrorism by any other standard except the standard in
the American one, of course.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
It is.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Yeah, there's like really desperate, as you're mentioning, there's this
like very you know, desperate attempt to obscure the fact
that like, you know, most like political violence that happens
in this country, the overwhelming majority is like right wing psychos.
Sorry to not describe that in a very you know,
(31:28):
objective way, but like, you know, these people who have
like bombed abortion clinics or you know, like some of
the people who stormed the capitol, like you know, that's
that is violent. But you know, it's like you'll see
like these you know, headlines. One of the headlines I
saw about I think it was the protest at Yale,
(31:49):
was that one of the Yale protesters like stabbed someone
in the eye. And you know, I read that and
I was like, oh my god, this is horrible, Like
whatever whoever did that is you know a discraine. You
can't stab people in the eye for any reason.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
But it's been in a position for a while now.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Actually yeah, but you know, this was frames in the
headlines that this person stabs someone in the eye because
the person that they stabbed was Jewish, and I'm like,
that's just that's a disgusting thing to do. Then I
saw the video of this incident. Have you seen it? Yeah, yeah,
so someone so there's a student or maybe I don't
(32:31):
even know if the person was a student. But someone
is walking by with a very tiny, tiny, tiny little
flag and is you know, kind of waving the flag
back and forth bumps into someone very lightly. They to me,
it seems clear that they did not even see the
person that they bumped into. That this was the situation
(32:53):
of like they were looking in the other direction and
waving their flag very lightly. Like there was no way
that this was any kind of stabbing. It wasn't a
targeted incident. I don't think that they even saw the
person that they bumped into enough to you know, know
that person's religion or ethnicity. They weren't looking at them.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
I mean, it was just well and then there was
even a report that they were even saying that like
they went to like a they were told to like, yeah,
maybe go get that checked out. And you're like if
you were stabbed, if you were stabbed in the eye,
I think like like someone with ems would be like,
oh my god, you're stabbed in the eye, like versus like, hey,
if it's bugging you, you can go you should maybe
(33:34):
go to the doctor to get it checked out. Yeah,
since you were stabbed in the eye. Yeah, but yeah,
But going back to like I mean this is we've
we always have these moments where you have to remind
yourself how entrenched our mainstream media is with just the
like the principles of the United States that they're all
they all work together, hand in hand to maintain the
(33:56):
status quo of being a white supremacist, capitalist patriarchy. And
so when you go up against one of those, you know,
we have many pillars, but those three pillars, all bets
are off on how you can be treated. January sixth.
That's okay because you're there, because you're you're they're in
service of a candidate who wants to uphold the status
(34:16):
quo exactly racism and the brutal economic violence of the nation. So,
y'all are good people who are peacefully protesting police violence
and over policing. We'll see now now you're fucking Now
you're fucking with one of our temples. Yeah, and you
will feel the whole fucking might of the state come
down on you. And now, unfortunately, these student protests non violent,
but we're talking about the fucking we're talking about American
(34:40):
hegemony and our foreign policy. Yeah, guess what the state
is going to fucking do what it can to crush
you and it. Yeah, and I'm sure well pretty soon
in the next few days, we'll start seeing the media
do some kind of run some kind of shit to
try and obscure or recontextualize what these non violent student
protests are, to try and discredit them and be like
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and like, it's not even like a fucking big deal.
These kids are tripping or like they're fucking brainwashed by
whatever they.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
The Wall Street Journal, let me see if I can
find it the exact headline. But the Wall Street Journal
like was already saying that, you know, the protesters are
I think, don't call me on this, but they were.
They were like fund funded by Hamas or like had
ties to Hamas.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Yes, some anti Israel protesters are paid. I just saw
this one. Rockefeller and Soros grants are subsidizing those who
disrupt college campuses.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Which is on anti Semitic conspiracy theory, like the they
like George Soros funds everything. You know, George Soros is
is behind the scenes pulling the string. That is like
one of the core anti Semitic Nazi conspiracy theories in
the United States.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
So yeah, it's like which one is it? What? What
is so George Soros is now anti Israel?
Speaker 1 (36:03):
I don't know, man, you tell me, man, I'm just
we're just trying to say.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Journal Okay, So here here's here's the headline, the actual headline. Uh,
it's from the Wall Street Journal. Who's behind the anti
Israel protests? Which is a hell of a framing to
begin with, But who's behind the anti Israel protests? Hamas
has Blah, the Hutis and others are grooming, not that
we're grooming activists in the US and across the West.
(36:36):
And you know, it's just like, uh, I think that
there's this look. I have protested, and I think most
people have protested. You know, there's there's various reasons, but
I think the core reason for a lot of people
is like, you know, we we see we see pictures
of all these you know, dead children, and we're like,
(36:59):
this is very sad and it's very wrong, and it's
like they haven't. The social media is part of it,
but there's there's an emotional response to seeing civilians, especially children,
horribly injured or killed. And I think that that's a
very human response and it's like outrage. Yeah, yeah, these
these headlines. It's like, and I think even the stuff
(37:23):
that like Nancy Pelosi says about how you know this
is backed by Vladimir Putin or the Chinese government or whatever,
it's like they can't even acknowledge the possibility that some
number of people, probably the majority of people, are like, wow,
killing kids. That's very sad, you know.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
Yeah, yeah, they're oh, I I've been incentivized to look
the other way this whole.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Yeah, they're just like they're like parents who are like,
don't you remember when you were young, Like you used
to believe everything we said?
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Yeah, right, exactly.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
You used to eat gummy candies of our warplanes. Yeah.
Now now you you're so mad at me. Now you
call them instruments of state violences. Yeah, this is not
my child anymore. Who I was able to fucking you
know see all the time. Yeah, it's and I think
(38:19):
that's what's like really interesting when I look at this
all is we talk about how increasingly more engaged and
intelligent these younger generations are becoming, and like I'm wondering
if they're I mean, they must be looking at this
they're like, dude, we've got a fucking like these kids
are getting smarter and more radical. Yeah, and what the
fuck are we gonna do about this? And I guess
(38:39):
like they's just one response is like just fucking call
them the goon squad. Yeah, as a solution, rather than
like a rational human being try and understand what is
driving people to act and being like, well, can we
do that? And again, I think that's when it reveals.
It reveals why both parties are still they're from the
same Well. Yeah, it's like like we cannot go against
(39:01):
the military industrial complict. Who the fuck is going to
say that unless you're like one of these on you know,
on the fringe, meaning not necessarily mainstream politicians who's like,
we have to stop all this like fucking unchained military spending.
That's never going to be the main stream because that's
America runs on. Duncan baby, that's just what we do.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
The core assumption, like legitimizing, like to the public, US
foreign policy since nine to eleven has been some version,
some you know, unsophisticated version of like you know, Islam
equals terror, right right, It's like, you know, like and
(39:43):
and because of this, like anybody who is Muslim or Arab,
you know, can be held collectively responsible for the actions
of you know, legitimate terrorist actions like Osama bin Ladens
or whatever, but we responded to like nine to eleven horrible.
But like people, there's no problem just you know, holding
(40:06):
the people of Iraq responsible for that or Afghanistan, because
it's just like, yeah, you know, you can just you know,
if they were Muslim, they should you know, get bombed
or whatever. And it's like younger kids. Gen Z definitely
doesn't believe that most millennials doesn't believe that, you know,
like people, we live in a diverse society where you know,
(40:29):
people are like they may have friends that are Muslims
or you know, they may be you know, like they're
you know, listening to work from people from you know,
all over the world and stuff, and like this kind
of like core racism and Islamophobia, like it just doesn't work.
And like none of this stuff that the US government
(40:52):
is doing makes sense unless you buy into that assumption,
which the kids do not buy into.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Yeah. Yeah, the racist old grandpa or racist parent.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
Yeah, they're gonna like yeah, and yeah, it's just there's
a disconnect and they can't get their fucking mind around it.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
Yeah, they're calling the kids like the student protesters. I've
seen a bunch of people call them like g haughties, yeah,
or say that they're trying to protest to institute sharia law.
And this is really just grandpa racism.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
I know this because I had a white grandpa who
was buryed into Fox News, and I know I know
when something is that perspective.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
Of right and it's a purposely bad, bad faith analysis
to be like, well, because I can't say what they're
literally saying, which is like, we want to stop the genocide.
We need an immediate ceasefire. Innocent people are dying. We
want our school to divest from businesses that are actively
profiting off of this. That's what it is. No one
(41:54):
is a fucking sign that says man sharia law. Now
to go to these sort of thought killing cliches for
people to be like, oh they want shariala okay, well,
I don't know what do these people are off their shit?
Speaker 2 (42:07):
Yeah. Even the stuff that's considered like, you know, very radical,
Like the viewpoint that it's considered like, you know, so
radical that it can't even be discussed, is that you know,
between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean, seeing it should
be one person, one vote, that everybody should have equal rights. Yeah,
everybody should have equal protection under the law. And you know,
(42:30):
you almost never see that argument represented, you know, just
as it is, like what the argument is actually for,
because I think a lot of Americans agree with that argument.
Like our country has already had a huge debate about,
you know, whether it's okay to deny people voting rights
(42:51):
based on their race or ethnicity, and like, you know,
so it's just like there has to be like these
sort of like bad faith, like these kids support terror
or whatever, because if they say what those kids are
actually believe, like too many people are going to be like, oh,
I don't know. That actually sort of makes sense.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
But no, they're anti you know, child murder, like child
murder and being buried under rebel. It's like, why disagree?
It's like so then you're pro that? Yeah, yeah, no, yeah,
well hmm, do you want to meet me where I'm at?
Because if it is, then you have to really define
where you're coming from, because if it's if it's that
well articulated like it is in ninety five percent of
(43:32):
the cases, yeah, then yeah you can. Only the only
thing you do without yourself is being like, well, then
I'm I'm pro death of innocence.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Nobody will articulate the real viewpoints here,
because it's pretty obvious that one of those viewpoints is
I'm pro murdering children, which has very few actual sympathizers.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
Yeah right, yeah, all right, let's uh, let's take a
quick break and we'll come back and talk about some
dumb bullshit.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
We'll be right back, and we're back.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
We're back, and AI has taken the tech world by storm.
Oh yeah, baby, wave of the future. Mm hmm, Okay,
some really funny pictures of Biden doing drugs off of
America's gravestone.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
Yeah, I did that when I was cool. I did
that in uh in Dolly. It looked kind of grainy,
but it was all right. Or you know, you can
you can get tupac entered the Kendrick and Drake beef,
you know, because of AI. Or there's there's everything, you
can do it all, you can do it all. But yeah,
the big thing that I saw in this Wired story
is it seems like the latest trend on social media
(44:53):
is ads for erotic AI girlfriends and companions. According to Wired,
there's like, you know, you can search like all the
ads that have ran on Facebook like in certain instances,
and they found that at least twenty nine thousand ads
had been published on Meta platforms for explicit AI quote girlfriends,
(45:15):
with most using suggestive sex related messaging. There were also
at least nineteen thousand ads using the term NSFW and
fourteen thousand were offering NSFWAI and some twenty seven hundred
ads were active. When Wired reached out to Meta, They're like, hey,
what's up with all the fucking AI fuck bot ads
(45:35):
that you got on there? And the spokesperson said, oh, yeah,
we prohibit that kind of content and we're going to
get right on it. And then like fucking two days ago,
a Wired look and it's now there's three thousand ads
for AI girlfriends and eleven hundred containing NSFW that were
still live on the platform. So these chatbots promise users
(45:56):
all kinds of erotic interactions, like from raunchy chat to
AI generated porn images or like undressing your AI girlfriend
and then like you can finally unlock the nudie pictures
or whatever. You can even do images of humans or animals,
you know, however you want to get down, And they
even have ship where you can be chatting, you know,
(46:18):
with again this porn trope that is just at the
root cause of everything that's wrong with America, and it's
like you can fucking chat with your hot step mom
and like, yeah, fucking down with your AI step mom.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
Ew sorry step related part related.
Speaker 3 (46:39):
It's not like some Oedipus ship. All right, step mom.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
I was talking about like how I thought that, like
the step family porn genre was like really gross. One
day I was talking to a friend about it. I
was like, yeah, you know, it's just like it's really nassy.
Like She's like, I actually think it's hot.
Speaker 3 (47:00):
So I'm like, I.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
Get I guess some people are very into this stuff.
More a lot of people must be into this stuff,
because that's like.
Speaker 3 (47:07):
Some Brady Bunch shit. I remember like in The Brady Bunch.
I think it was like the first or second movie
when Greg and Jan had to ship like split the
attic basement, but like through a sheet and like they
were all getting hot for each other. I'm like, see,
this is what the fuck is going on? And Marsha right, oh, Marsha, yeah,
come on yeah, sorry, yeah sorry, man, I'm that was
for a while.
Speaker 2 (47:27):
It's like sexual tension between step siblings.
Speaker 3 (47:31):
That was like, and I'm sure too, like with their
rate of divorce in America, there are probably a lot
of blended families. And then they're just like, yeah, man,
this is kind of where your head goes.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
There's a lot of blended families where people are getting
stuck inside washing machines and need help getting out.
Speaker 3 (47:46):
Yeah, and they're only wearing an apron with nothing else on.
It just is what it is.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
And I, you know, I'm just I you know, I'm
not trying to be me in here, but I will
say it does sound like you're talking about AI chatbot girlfriends,
like they're not real girlfriends. And I just want to say, like,
if your feminism doesn't include.
Speaker 3 (48:05):
Robots, yeah, where are we even? Is that the farm
wave that we're about to catch is just bringing in
the AI sex workers too, and being like, no, this
is this also kinds because this is the thing. A
lot of actual human sex workers have quickly pointed out
this fucking weird double standard. Gemma Rose, who's the director
of the pole Dance Stripper Movement, which like a UK
(48:27):
based sex worker rights or organization, said, quote, as a
sex worker, if I put anything like I will do
anything for you. I will make you come in a minute.
I would be deleted in an instant because a lot
of these ads are like you will fucking blast your
whole nut off in one minute of talking with this
AI fuck bot. And Miles does work as a copywriter.
(48:50):
Oh yeah, yeah, who in the sky?
Speaker 2 (48:54):
Yeah, oh my god, that's so gross.
Speaker 3 (48:56):
Like but what's wild is like these guidelines, right, how
I've just affected like sex workers, Like people know if
you create content around things like sex positivity or sex
education like suddenly Instagram like yeah, flagging that shit. It's
like I'm telling you people about the fucking human body.
But you can run ads where it's like, hey man,
you want to fuck your step mom right this way,
(49:17):
see her fully nude with this chatbot. And it's not
clear what like Meta's next move is here. I mean,
they may just do like a massive purge of those
kinds of accounts like they did with like sex worker
accounts too. But apparently a lot of the reason these
platforms have cracked down on sex work too, even recently,
is because of a sex trafficking bill that became long
twenty eighteen, which basically made platforms responsible for like what
(49:41):
is posted. Yeah, but then that also unfortunately led to
like the restriction of consensual sex work or like consensual
sex work being categorized as trafficking like overall in the
online world.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
Yeah, and sex workers told us at that time. I'm like, hey,
this is what they're trying to do here, you know,
but like this is obviously like to crack down on
consensual sex work and a fitty thing. It's going to
and danger trafficking victims even more, you know, And that
has come to be the case. But you know, people
don't listen to sex workers when, you know, when they
(50:17):
express what's going to be good for them, you know,
law wise or not.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
Yeah, sex workers are maybe the most kind of undervalued
human beings in like the US mainstream media. Like they
just aren't counted as human beings in a lot of cases.
Speaker 2 (50:36):
Yeah, which is weird because it's like everybody is and
I won't say everybody like you know, but there's I
would say that most men in the United States are
engaging with pornography on some level or another. Like I
certainly haven't very met very many men who aren't watching
like porn sometimes at least and also a lot of
(50:58):
women and also a lot of non binary people. But
you know, it's like this product that you know, so
many people are consuming, but the workers it's fine to
just you know, treat them as horribly as possible.
Speaker 3 (51:10):
Right exactly, Because again, yeah, it's like it's like, well,
you know, that's in line with the patriarchal aspects of
this country and also like the puritanical ones. It's like, well,
I mean like if women are suffering or then maybe
that's okay. Yeah, but yeah, for something that we call
the oldest profession, we should I feel like give a
little bit more respect to it. Yes, this profession has
(51:33):
been around for a long time, so there's a lot
of momentum to sex work.
Speaker 2 (51:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (51:38):
We talked about how like this platform that is a
competitor to only fans called Fanview that specializes in like
AI models, right, is like doing incredibly well. So like
this is this is happening for sure, gonna it's gonna come,
And I feel like people aren't going to stop it
(52:01):
because it's just taking away sex workers ability to make
a living and nobody is making. In the history of America,
laws and legislation protecting sex work has been shockingly absent.
Speaker 3 (52:18):
Yeah, but how quickly too. It's like, oh, yeah, we
can usher like this, this can take people's jobs. We'll
just let this this this tech version of like weird
algorithmic sex work be like the norm or whatever, and yeah,
well we will welcome your ad dollars, but not an
actual person.
Speaker 1 (52:38):
No, so does the step mom thing that like they're
using on the step mom thing pictures of like people's
step moms, Like is that what that means?
Speaker 3 (52:49):
Or is can you like load your own step mom?
Speaker 1 (52:52):
But I'm serious, that is like such a fucking violation
of product, Like if you're taking from Facebook and I
don't know not I think it's role play.
Speaker 3 (53:03):
Yeah, I mean, well cause already, I mean this is
where we're This is where it's so sticky. We've talked
already and like that AI beauty pageant thing how people
have just had their likeness just fully ripped from the Internet. Yeah,
that's what I'm saying, Like that's the future where we're
headed like that. I mean, it's already happening to celebrities,
but like I'm sure, like the fact that this is
happening on Facebook, Like I'm sure there's a future where
(53:27):
that's what people like that is what is being offered,
or at least not openly offered. But yeah, the service
that's being provided, which is so fucked up. Yeah, I'm
sure we're only i mean, like without legislation, I mean,
we're going to be there pretty quick. Like yeah, it's
probably gonna be like give us four pictures of a person,
like how it is now when people are like, hey, man,
(53:47):
want to make like your cool Disney like Pixar version
of yourself, It's like, give us five pictures. Yeah, and
that's just all the data we need and we could
probably faithfully recreate your likeness. And what's going to stop
that from like just kind of like fucked up violating.
Speaker 2 (54:02):
Yeah, there's just gonna be there's gonna be so much
revenge porn, but it won't even be like actual videos
of the person, and it'll just be like, you know,
a guy doesn't like a woman that you know, turned
him down or whatever, so he's going to generate some
AI porn of her blasted all over the internet.
Speaker 1 (54:20):
Yeah, horribly Well cool. Well, I'm sure the US government
has our back on that one. They'll probably figure it out.
Speaker 2 (54:27):
Figure out, But at least they banned TikTok yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (54:31):
Right, that's that's that that makes me sleep better at night.
But it's been such a pleasure having you on the
daily Zeitgeist. Where can people find you? Follow you all
that good stuff?
Speaker 2 (54:43):
Okay? Cool? So yeah, you know I did. I did
go off about political stuff a lot on this podcast,
but I also made a comedy special, which isn't it
doesn't have that much to do with politics. I have
a new special out on Amazon and Apple TV called Loopholes,
and it is about you know, it's it's about kind
of like the expectations on the Modern Lady, some of
(55:06):
the which we're talking about now, but like you know, sex, domesticity,
trad wives, reproductive rights, and you know, I think it's
really funny special. I'm excited to put it out and
you can get it on Amazon, Apple TV or it's
on YouTube as well. And I am on Instagram at
Kate Willett, which is a really good place to you know,
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see my tour dates. I'm probably coming to your study
very soon, and I'm I'm releasing a new podcast at
the beginning of May, so if you want to check
that out, it's going to be called Ruining Dinner and
it's going to be released in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 3 (55:44):
Here dinner about Oh so.
Speaker 2 (55:48):
I'm going to have people on to talk about their
most awkward conversation topic, like the thing that they're not
supposed to say, like you know, yeah, comedians but also
journalists and like whatever, the topic that people ruined dinner with.
We're going to talk about that.
Speaker 3 (56:03):
Yeah, British cole gas study for me. Oh, British coal
gas study here.
Speaker 1 (56:08):
Yeah, I love talking about suicide at dinner parties.
Speaker 3 (56:13):
You know what's interesting, actually, you stop using coal gas?
Oh my god, hey speaking of coal. Nobody said anything
about coal? Uh oh wait were you just using the oven? Okay,
so decades ago, Kate.
Speaker 1 (56:26):
Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying
besides your own special of course?
Speaker 2 (56:30):
Well, I think like the tweet that I say originally
was like a tweet from more Perfect Union, and it
was about how Hawaii is going to ban or severely
restrict Airbnb, and I'm excited about that. I think that
that's a positive.
Speaker 3 (56:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (56:47):
So to finally see some pushback on like these sech
companies that are taking all these people's housing.
Speaker 1 (56:53):
Yeah, amazing miles. Where can people find you? Is there
a working media you've been enjoying, uh, Twitter, Instagram and
the like at Miles of Gray.
Speaker 3 (57:03):
If you want to hear well, I wasn't quite crying
yet about the Lakers on the latest episode of Miles
and jackot Mad Boosties. I mean I was, I was
preparing for for terrible pain. You're getting a tear Duck's
warm Yeah, yeah, yeah, next episode, I will fully be
just drowning in my own tears. But anyway, if you
want to hear us talk basketball, Miles and Jack got
Mad Boosties. If you want a switch, just a break
from the shit, and you want to hear me talk
(57:25):
about shit reality television, then check me and Sofia Alexander
out on four to twenty Day Fiance where we talk
about ninety day fiance. Some tweets I like at Awa
Rhiannon past guests Rhiannon and hermam just tweeted, I was
in jail with some batties, free them all, Free Palestine. Yeah,
I mean she was right there in the University of Texas.
So yes, I hope everything turned out okay for you.
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And then another alec Herricktsana's tweet, I think just you know,
in times like this he's always just just getting to
the point I had. Equality, Alex said. One of the
primary functions of police to violently crush progressive social movements.
It's one of the reasons expanding the size of size
and power of police is always authoritarian and is never
an answer to inequality. It is a key part of
preserving inequality in all its forms.
Speaker 2 (58:11):
There, it is amazing. That's a great really well expressed.
Speaker 3 (58:16):
I can't beat that.
Speaker 1 (58:17):
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what song do you think people might enjoy?
Speaker 3 (58:40):
This is a song called cherry Pop by Jamison j MS.
And you know it's known as like a producer but
also kind of like does their own music worked with
like Kendrick the Game, k Trinata, Sango Taku artists like that.
But this track is just kind of like a like
a kind of haunted R and B pop song, but
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Pops by Jamison amazing. We will link off to that
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That's gonna do it for us. This week.
Speaker 1 (59:18):
We are back on Monday morning to tell you what
was trending over the weekend. There will also be a
highlight reel from this week's episode this season Best of
Season three point thirty five dropping tomorrow, and yeah, have
a safe weekend. We'll talk to you all Monday morning.
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Speaker 3 (02:40):
Go stream it. It's Kate Weller. Welcome, Welcome. How are
you OK.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I'm doing pretty good. I mean, like personally, I'm doing
pretty good.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah, the world is crazy.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
The world's crazy.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah, it's a very intense time. But like personally, you know,
I got a comedy special, a boyfriend, I got two cats.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
You god damn the cats. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, what
can you ask more for? You know, I get it.
In these times, we just have to retreat into our
cats sometimes. Yeah, I know, I know, you have no man.
I just I have vivid memories of even like in
twenty twenty, like holding like my dog, like you have
no idea, do you?
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yeah? I know I had a moment of like visceral
jealousy towards my cat right like where I was just like,
oh my God, Like he has literally no idea that
any of this stuff is going on.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
He's just like he's just like simple.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
The main thing that happens every day is that the
mommy slash god lady brings me food and then cats me.
That's what's happening in the world. That's the breaking news.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Yeah, exactly. Oh yellow socks today, okay, yeah, and that's
about it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Damn your cat use you as mommy slash god lady
instead of personal assistant. That's impressive. You have a you
have a strong relationship.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
I actually have two cats, and what views me as
a personal.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
System and one as mother god.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yes, mother god mommy. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
There's something about just napping in a sunbeam when I see,
like when I would see my dogs do that, that
just like made me so like it's just so simple,
so comfortable.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
You don't do that. I do that. You find a
little sunbeam on the floor, and just when LA has
that like switch, you're like, oh shit, we're consistently warm now,
like we're out of this. Like do I wear sleeves today?
Like I don't, Like I will. I used I will
go shirtless and just put my back on hot concrete
and just be like, oh so, I don't know, it's
like a pastime I have. I do it a lot.
(04:44):
There's I start sending like a fucking lizard. I mean
I love that. I love that for you. I like
how I was like you don't do that, Bros.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Driveway just like warming yourself, like a list of concrete.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
There's just something about hot concrete, like when it feels
like when it's cold in your house. I don't know,
it's very it's very invited. Damn man, I don't know
what's wrong with me? Why I'm not doing that? Amazing?
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Well, Kate, we are going to get to know you
a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going
to tell the listeners a couple of things that we're
talking about.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
We have some good news out.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Of Maine that I wanted to bring up. Maine has
officially become a trans and abortion care sanctuary state. So
we'll talk about that and what they had to overcome
a lot of death threats, a lot of terroristic threats
to get there.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Meta's strong policies against sex work. As long as said
sex work is being performed by humans AI, that shit
is totally fine.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Ahead, They're down with that.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Robot work is real works.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Right, is what we are here to say. Right, All
that plenty more. But first, Kate, we do like to
ask our guests, what is is something from your search history?
Speaker 2 (06:03):
I was recently this morning, I was reading up on
the Supreme Court grants pass versus Organs. You guys know
about that case. Did you talk about it?
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Yeah? Is it is? It? Is it a criminal act
to be unhoused?
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah, I'm very I do a lot of reading about
housing politics, and that one is it's just mind blowing
that they're like thinking about, you know, criminalizing just like
being outside if you have no place else to go.
I don't know, sorry, but I hate the Supreme Court.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Yeah, yeah, no, Yeah, we were just talking on was
it Tuesday? Tuesday's episode with Rihann and Hamam from the
five to four Supreme Court podcast about that.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
It's a great podcast.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Yeah, yeah, she's she's dope as fuck. I think she
actually just got arrested at the University of Texas, you know,
protesting on behalf of Palestinians. But yeah, we were talking
about that, and it's just you know this, it's the
Supreme Court is doing what it's doing, Like there is
a rock that has been created from just on what's
the word I'm looking for, untethered American, unmitigated American capitalism,
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and now we have to now just create laws that
are just trying to contain all that rather than addressing
the real root causes. It's like, well, we could do
something about housing policy, but that's that's going to get
in the way of the quote market, so we'll just
make it illegal if you failed at the game of
surviving in America.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I think that, like you know,
speaking of like the protests that you were just mentioning,
like it's just becoming very clear that like literally the
plan for every single issue in this country is police,
like police or the housing plan. Police are the foreign
policy plan. Police are the substance abuse plan. You know,
(07:52):
it's just every every single problem people just you know,
by people, I mean, like the people in power see
the same solution to it.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Absolutely, and I think that there be noted by people
to understand that like those are like using law enforcement
and state violence, like those are the responses of you know,
authoritarian regimes.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Like yeah, I believe that a police state, state state
that just I mean Joe Biden, you know, he did
it in his like foggy old guy way, but he was,
you know, giving a speech about he was like responding
to the idea of defunding the police or you know,
(08:35):
funding the police even a little bit less, and he
was like, we don't need to defund the police. I mean,
come on, they're they're your therapist there, you're like he
he was using the fact that the police are answer
to everything as like the reason to fund them. More
like he was like, then that's a good thing and
we should should double down, triple down on that. And
(08:59):
I feel like a lot of people or like, man,
that's that's dumb, but like this is the consequence of that.
When the police are your everything, the police are my everything.
You guys I just said about beer cause of a.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yeah, yeah, only losers think the police are the solution
to everything, winners. I think cats are the solution.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
To every that's right. Cats and mushrooms, yeahroom.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Cats and lasers on their heads, right, Yeah, Sorry, am
I did I.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Fuck this up? That would I think that would fuck
with a cat though, if a cat had a like,
because it would just be chasing the fucking laser of
its own creation. I feel like that's that's now in
my mind, like that's actually cool for a laser mounted
cat or cat.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
No, you're right, it should probably be flame throwers, right,
because they don't chase flame throwers in my experience. No, yeah,
what is something you think is underrated?
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Kate, Well, I'm going to change my are because my
original answer.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Was cats and were coover this take off.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
So there's a podcast that I love so much. I
have nothing to do with. This podcast is just really
like it. It's called Citations Needed, and they do like
media critique, and you know, they just really really go
into like, you know, the framings on New York Times, Atlantic,
(10:27):
you know, so many of these like mainstream news sources,
like you know, on things like policing on you know,
the housing crisis, and I just I really love their work.
That's like been such a huge source of education for me.
And I feel like it's a very popular podcast, but
it should be like twelve thousand times more famous than
(10:48):
it is.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Yeah, there's a lot of popular podcasts. Yeah, it's good.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
It's good to hear about this one. So I don't
understand those that do they just read the New York Times.
How could you criticize the New York Times. They're objective
and just the paper.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Record, the records.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
So yeah, you know, lady, Yeah, because democracy does in
the dark, and.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
That's Washington Post actually, dud. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Also, but they're both like same in that they're just
writing truth into existence.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
So I don't know, yeah, I mean their source is
the police for all of it. But even this other
story about energy according to police, You're like, wait, what.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Uh huh yeah, ship according to police, wind power, wind
energy kills a lot of birds.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Yeah right that wait, so that I'm like, I've I've
heard of the podcast before. But it's essentially just sort
of dissecting, disassembling what sort of like these headlines are
and just being like and this is where it goes
completely backwards.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
It's more like looking at various media tropes a lot
of the time, Like you know, for example, one thing
that they've been talking a lot about lately, not to
get too dark here, is like you know, the this
frame of like precision strikes and like human shields and
(12:13):
like all of this kind of language that the mainstream
you know, corporate media uses to like really kind of
paper over like the violence of these things, and just
just like they really dissect what, you know, what those
tropes really mean, and they'll have experts and scholars on,
(12:33):
you know, to talk about like you know, what watch
US international law actually say. But they also talk a
lot about policing too, and you know, like the idea
that you're just making fun of of, like you know,
just interviewing the police for like statements about policing. So yeah,
(12:54):
they're really really good podcast. It's two media critics who
are both you know, I think I've done a lot
of work with fairness and accuracy in reporting the nation
other left and publications.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Now I'm total precision on strike. Just I mean, you
have smart bombs, so they'll like just fly in through
a single window. Yeah, look around the room for the
bad guy. Yeah, introduce themselves to the bad guy and
then ask them to step outside where they can safely
blow them up. Is that incorrect? Is that are the
(13:27):
Are the strikes not that precise? Because that's what I
was led.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
To believe in the early nineties. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Yeah, when I had fucking gummy snacks for desert storm.
By the way, like the kids that I went to
school with had like b two bomber gummy snacks.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Dude, I remember those. Yeah, that's wild.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Yeah, the stealth but if you got the stealth bomber,
holy shit, everyone was like the secret flavor.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Yeah, no, who can figure out what it is? Yeah,
it's called thunder jets, wasn't it. I think that's right. Yeah, dude,
I remember that shit. I was like, bro, I was like, Mom,
I need to eat at F sixteen. I'm sorry that.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Is I'm going to hand you this new nutrition chart
and F sixteen's is a major food group.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
And then I'm like, oh, a yellow F sixteen that's
lemon growth. It's just running down your chin. Yeah, totally
shit like this. Norman Shorts cough. Yeah. Yeah. They tried
to make Norman and successfully for a couple of years,
like made Norman Shorts cough like a celebrity, a cool guy.
(14:34):
I had fucking Desert Storm Ninja Turtles. Yeah. I had
those ships where like Leonardo was like a fucking Air
Force pilot and shit, I'm like, yes, we will take
down so don Yeah yeah, Ninja Turtle Bay. All right,
what is something you think is overrated?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
I think the TikTok band or I don't know if
it's fair to call it a band at this point,
because we don't really know if they're, you know, gonna
sell the if my dance was gonna sell it or not,
if it will continue to exist in the United States.
But to me, you know, that's very overrated. Like I'm seeing,
you know, various proponents of this band, you know'll be like, well,
(15:11):
like social media is bad, and you know there are
data privacy concerns, which is true with all social media,
but like banning this app specifically. You know, it's to me,
it seems to be about two things. One which is,
you know, like, oh, China, that's so scary, you know,
(15:32):
just this kind of like really stupid.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
You know. Yeah, but did you know that they like
beat people up for speaking out against their government's policies. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
oh no, that's okay, but yeah, go on.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Yeah, do you know that they do surveillance in China
that they're just the government looking at your looking at
your private messages. It's out of control.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Yeah yeah. And I feel like everybody who ends up
trying to like justify the TikTok band like they're just
showing their ass in every single way. Like to your point,
it's like, if it's about privacy, then what about the
fucking American companies? Yeah you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Yeah, I mean, to me, this just seems like it's
like a you know, either there's like some corporate interests
that are you know, hoping to buy it like.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
American protect American technological hegemony, you know what I mean.
It's like this app is kicking our apps asses? Are
our countries apps? Asses? Oh yeah? Fuck? That's one version.
And then there's just like very casual way of trying
to explain away why younger people are more engaged and
outraged by what is happening in the country. I've been like,
(16:43):
it's fucking TikTok. It's not the fucking policies that we
enact that create the hellscape in which they live that's
radicalizing them. It's this fucking thing that tells you to
add more sugar to your watcher.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And you know, and I think that's
a lot of it too. It's like, you know, there's
just they don't have, you know, control over whatever, like
you know sense like all the social media apps do
censorship to some degree, Like you know, like on TikTok,
there is censorship, like you can't say sex, so people
(17:17):
that's why they say segs, which is extremely annoying. It's
really annoying when like gen Z college students will like
type like segs on Twitter or something that you don't
we don't do that here, say.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Like grown ups come on now.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Yeah, but you know there's like there's a there's different
censorship right like China, and like, well it's not there's
just like I think it's isn't it the CEOs like
he is in Singapore, right, But either way, TikTok is
not there. Like censorship is not based on like US
(18:00):
foreign policy interest, right, so they're not going to like
censor stuff just because it looks bad for the United States,
like whereas like you know, New York Times, we see,
you know, has like you know, specific policy is to
you know, censor the language of their journalists and reporters,
to to not you know, to not go the department line.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
It was a blast. It was not an Israeli bomb.
It was a blast. The protests turned violent when the
police started becoming violent, which is a mach we always X,
we're gonna get that out of there. Just just the
protests turned violent, Yeah, turned violent.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
I mean it's like I think it's just like they
don't like when if I think about like the Iraq
War a lot, and that was you know, I think
like really my political awakening, like I knew and every
when I knew, you knew that this like weapons of
mass destruction thing was a lie. I felt like it
was pretty obvious, you know, but we you know, had
(19:07):
the media is just repeating this WTMT lie again and again.
And now it's not like they can't really lie to
us in the same way a lot of the time
because we can see videos ourselves of what's happening. So
it's more like instead of lying, it's more like just
gas lighting. They're like, no, that's not what you saw.
(19:28):
That's don't believe your eyes, you know.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Yeah, and if you disagree, like we're going to hit you.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Yeah, And the reason you disagree is actually just China
has infiltrated your brain.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
And that's I don't even have TikTok. I just I
just saw a news clip.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Yeah, but you were people, people who have TikTok told
you that.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Actually, So I'm seventy has TikTok. Yeah, it's yeah, it's uh,
that's why it's like really interesting. Like we talk all
the time about how the sort of propaganda playbook that
the government tries to run just it's diminishing returns. At
this point, it's like they're time to be like that's
actually not what's going on. Everyone's like you think we're
fucking dumb or somebody else like this ain't fuck, This
(20:08):
ain't the nineties brouh.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Yeah you were like really recently, no, could you give
us a break here?
Speaker 3 (20:14):
We are used to Yeah, you guys being dumb. Dude. Yeahah,
you used to know, seventeen year old fucking pushing back
like that. What the fuck was that? Yeah? Kid fucking
flamed me? What the fuck? I mean?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
There's you know, there's like uh, I mean, you know
there's these like State Department and White House press conferences
where they come out and they repeat these, you know,
things that are obviously lies. You know, like for example,
like one thing you know was that Israel is not
(20:46):
blocking aid to Gaza, right, and you know, like we
can see videos of like the AID trucks not being
let in. We can even see individuals saying like hey,
I've gone here to block this aid. We can see
every you know, un or other humanitarians, you know, staff
person saying like hey, we're trying to get this aid
(21:08):
and they're not letting the truck in, you know, and
then they go out and they like the State Department,
you know, spokes for us in will go out and
repeat like, oh, there's there's no evidence that they're blocking
the AID, and it's like they know, we know, they know,
we know. So it's just gaslighting. It's not even lying anymore.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Yeah and yeah, and then you deal with shit boiling
over like it is now because exactly can only tell
somebody they're not seeing what they're seeing for so long.
And yeah, I hope that it just goes away anyway, Biden,
you're doing a great job courting the youth vote. Just
cracking skulls on campuses, yeah, arresting professors. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
(21:45):
you got this.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Remember Biden's campaign ad, the Charlottesville one. It was like
about like restoring the soul of our nation or something
like that, you know, and it's like, how's that going, man?
Speaker 3 (21:57):
You know? Yeah, I mean I think that it's the
same soul. It switches, you know, as as American capitalism
and neoliberalism will do just it just we lurch more
further and further towards authoritarianism.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
It's reminded me of like this morning, I kept being
reminded of that time in the twenty I think it
was twenty fifteen, maybe twenty sixteen Republican primary where they
were like, oh, yeah, no, it would be great if
Trump won.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Are you kidding me? We're gonna fucking demolish this guy.
It's gonna be right, so easy. But like there was
probably some level of like and if he wins, like
we can get like we become left even by being yeah,
what is currently the GOP party.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Yeah, like we can get away with so much we
like take up we get so much more ground now
by like the if he keeps going further and further
to the right, so like this morning, like as he's
from the Supreme Court, you know, his lawyers are arguing
that he can do purge and you know, meanwhile, the
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Democratic fucking administration is just out here pulling a Nixon
administration like on on protesters. It's like, yeah, I mean
that's what having this uber right wing like dictatorial regime
dangling over everyone's head like buys them. Like I do
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wonder if that was like part of the calculus from
the start.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
I think that you know, it's like the Republicans are
just going to keep getting like more and more fascist,
and the Democrats can just you know, keep getting more
and more fascist as well, because like, you know, there's
like this rhetoric that like the other the other guy,
the Republicans will be worse, Like that can be it
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can be literally used to justify anything, like there's no
limit to what it can be used to justify. And
I think we've seen that with like the Gouzel situation
is like you know, you'll you'll see people like be
like you know, oh well, like Trump would do ten
genocides and it's like.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
What and in this one, I'm like to fuck up
and let Biden ignore this one?
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Oh yeah, yeah, fund this one. That's what's so wild too,
because like, as I you know, we keep hearing about
you know, the the what the what the Republican will
Republicans will bring if Trump is president. But as you
look at it, I'm like, I'm you're you're you're brutalizing
peaceful protesters just like they were doing in twenty twenty
and years past every single time, And I'm like, is
(24:41):
it the only difference going to be It's like, well,
Biden will just allow students to be tasered and maced
and Trump would probably allow like full blown guns like
maybe a week in or something like that. Yeah, But
are we still dealing with the fact that we are
not allowing peaceful, non violent protest to happen, because that's
the up. And yeah, I'm like, you got it. I'm
(25:03):
doing a really bad job differentiating here, really bad job.
And that's on you. Actually, that's on you in your
brain do diffructiating. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
So yeah, oh so you want Trump? No, I never
I don't want Trump. No, I know, I never said, well,
it sounds like you want Trump. I'm no, I'm saying
we need to be we need to be holding ship
to a higher standard. That's and people are fucking up bad.
That's what I'm saying. You said you want to be
holding ship.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
So dude, this guy's a fun Did you hear the
studio city was a whole This guy was the whole
ship man.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
No, anyways, you've done me, The media done me. Yeah,
got his ass. Yeah, all right, let's say, let's take
a quick break and we'll be right back.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
And we're back and small little island of good news,
Maine officially becomes a trans and abortion care sanctuary state.
This is after attacks from transphobic online influencers, legal threats
from a group of Republican Attorneys general, multiple bomb threats
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targeting the state House, the main Democratic Party headquarters, and
the homes of two legislators. Maine has officially become the
sixteenth state to explicitly protect transgender and abortion care and
state law for prosecution from prosecution after Governor Janet Mills
of Maine signed the LD two to twenty seventh Sanctuary Bill.
(26:42):
So an amazing piece of legislation.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Yeah, they're also saying that it's like, yo, we're not
going to cooperate with people trying to come in and
you know what's the word I'm looking for when they extradition,
like extradition extradite yeah, yeah, or or cooperation with law
enforcement out of state for people who are like they
can to Maine for gender affirming care and it's like, yeah, sorry,
like you can't, Like we're not stay the fuck out
(27:05):
because that's what we're trying to do. Yeah, A very
a nice I thought for first, when he said an island,
I thought you were calling Maine an island, and I
was like, in a way, I kind of I'm not
good at geography. Okay, the the humble island of Maine. Yes, yes,
I mean like that's it feels like it up there.
Up there on the tip there.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
It's a really beautiful, enormous state that I mean, it's
it's also very rural. You see someone shut up in
Maine if you ever do drive through ord Air. The
extensive new law means the gender affirming care and reproductive
healthcare are legal rights in Maine and states that criminal
and civil actions against providers and patients are not enforceable
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if the provision or access to the care occurred within
Maine's borders. So yeah, like Miles said, like they can't
other states can't come in and basically you know, issue
arrest warrants.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
I mean until they tryntill they Yeah, that's kind of
the fucking weird part is that, Yeah, we're having to
just sort of codify it in this very specific ways.
I don't even think that if you have fucking wacky
laws on your books wherever you are, that you can
come in and start running shit over here. But yeah,
oh wow, but it sounds like a full on terror
campaign to try and stop this.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
It's really like I do. Also, I wanted to bring
this up because it just like as we talked about
on yesterday's Trending episode, as we talked about already on
this episode. The treatment of peaceful protesters in the in
the US right now is at the forefront of everyone's mind,
and on social media you see a lot of people
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who don't want this to be the case, who are
like they weren't actually that peaceful, like they were, you know,
scaring people and.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Sitting down on the grass.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Yeah, well that's like, you know, that can be a opinion. Okay,
that could be a thing gesture. But like, first of all,
the two places, like I keep seeing people compare it
to like being like well back in the seventies and sixties,
like we were peaceful protesters, and it's like compared to them,
know the fuck you were not like that at Kent State.
(29:17):
Like the things that the peaceful protesters at Kent State
did would buy today's standards by these people said, like
they broke a bank window or something broke like a
shop window, they like that would that would be cause
for like the entire nation to be thrown into fucking
lockdown today, Like they they like jokingly told students to
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kill their parents, like at the Kent State thing, and
like that was used as justification to like bring in
the National Guard. But like those would be read as
like declarations of all at war on America were they
to be done today by a group of like pro
Palestinian protesters, Like yeah, and then you have this on
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the right, like the things that they're doing, like the
the bomb threats, the just like threat physical threats of
violence that like constantly happen on the right and just
get completely fucking ignored by the mainstream media.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Like this is just it's like a.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Detail of a of an alternate story. But it's like
not not the focus, not like you know, the no,
nobody wants to like make that a front page news story.
It's just the the double standard is pretty incredible and
has been for years. Like you know, the anti abortion
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like violence that has happened is like the one type
of violence like that that is like ideological that does
not get called terrorism.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Usually they're just like.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Yeah, they blew up a clinic, but it's like, no,
that's fucking that they're killing people along ideological lines like that.
That's terrorism by any other standard except the standard in
the American one, of course.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
It is.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Yeah, there's like really desperate, as you're mentioning, there's this
like very you know, desperate attempt to obscure the fact
that like, you know, most like political violence that happens
in this country, the overwhelming majority is like right wing psychos.
Sorry to not describe that in a very you know,
(31:28):
objective way, but like, you know, these people who have
like bombed abortion clinics or you know, like some of
the people who stormed the capitol, like you know, that's
that is violent. But you know, it's like you'll see
like these you know, headlines. One of the headlines I
saw about I think it was the protest at Yale,
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was that one of the Yale protesters like stabbed someone
in the eye. And you know, I read that and
I was like, oh my god, this is horrible, Like
whatever whoever did that is you know a discraine. You
can't stab people in the eye for any reason.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
But it's been in a position for a while now.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Actually yeah, but you know, this was frames in the
headlines that this person stabs someone in the eye because
the person that they stabbed was Jewish, and I'm like,
that's just that's a disgusting thing to do. Then I
saw the video of this incident. Have you seen it? Yeah, yeah,
so someone so there's a student or maybe I don't
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even know if the person was a student. But someone
is walking by with a very tiny, tiny, tiny little
flag and is you know, kind of waving the flag
back and forth bumps into someone very lightly. They to me,
it seems clear that they did not even see the
person that they bumped into. That this was the situation
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of like they were looking in the other direction and
waving their flag very lightly. Like there was no way
that this was any kind of stabbing. It wasn't a
targeted incident. I don't think that they even saw the
person that they bumped into enough to you know, know
that person's religion or ethnicity. They weren't looking at them.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
I mean, it was just well and then there was
even a report that they were even saying that like
they went to like a they were told to like, yeah,
maybe go get that checked out. And you're like if
you were stabbed, if you were stabbed in the eye,
I think like like someone with ems would be like,
oh my god, you're stabbed in the eye, like versus like, hey,
if it's bugging you, you can go you should maybe
(33:34):
go to the doctor to get it checked out. Yeah,
since you were stabbed in the eye. Yeah, but yeah,
But going back to like I mean this is we've
we always have these moments where you have to remind
yourself how entrenched our mainstream media is with just the
like the principles of the United States that they're all
they all work together, hand in hand to maintain the
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status quo of being a white supremacist, capitalist patriarchy. And
so when you go up against one of those, you know,
we have many pillars, but those three pillars, all bets
are off on how you can be treated. January sixth.
That's okay because you're there, because you're you're they're in
service of a candidate who wants to uphold the status
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quo exactly racism and the brutal economic violence of the nation. So,
y'all are good people who are peacefully protesting police violence
and over policing. We'll see now now you're fucking Now
you're fucking with one of our temples. Yeah, and you
will feel the whole fucking might of the state come
down on you. And now, unfortunately, these student protests non violent,
but we're talking about the fucking we're talking about American
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hegemony and our foreign policy. Yeah, guess what the state
is going to fucking do what it can to crush
you and it. Yeah, and I'm sure well pretty soon
in the next few days, we'll start seeing the media
do some kind of run some kind of shit to
try and obscure or recontextualize what these non violent student
protests are, to try and discredit them and be like
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and like, it's not even like a fucking big deal.
These kids are tripping or like they're fucking brainwashed by
whatever they.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
The Wall Street Journal, let me see if I can
find it the exact headline. But the Wall Street Journal
like was already saying that, you know, the protesters are
I think, don't call me on this, but they were.
They were like fund funded by Hamas or like had
ties to Hamas.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Yes, some anti Israel protesters are paid. I just saw
this one. Rockefeller and Soros grants are subsidizing those who
disrupt college campuses.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Which is on anti Semitic conspiracy theory, like the they
like George Soros funds everything. You know, George Soros is
is behind the scenes pulling the string. That is like
one of the core anti Semitic Nazi conspiracy theories in
the United States.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
So yeah, it's like which one is it? What? What
is so George Soros is now anti Israel?
Speaker 1 (36:03):
I don't know, man, you tell me, man, I'm just
we're just trying to say.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Journal Okay, So here here's here's the headline, the actual headline. Uh,
it's from the Wall Street Journal. Who's behind the anti
Israel protests? Which is a hell of a framing to
begin with, But who's behind the anti Israel protests? Hamas
has Blah, the Hutis and others are grooming, not that
we're grooming activists in the US and across the West.
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And you know, it's just like, uh, I think that
there's this look. I have protested, and I think most
people have protested. You know, there's there's various reasons, but
I think the core reason for a lot of people
is like, you know, we we see we see pictures
of all these you know, dead children, and we're like,
(36:59):
this is very sad and it's very wrong, and it's
like they haven't. The social media is part of it,
but there's there's an emotional response to seeing civilians, especially children,
horribly injured or killed. And I think that that's a
very human response and it's like outrage. Yeah, yeah, these
these headlines. It's like, and I think even the stuff
(37:23):
that like Nancy Pelosi says about how you know this
is backed by Vladimir Putin or the Chinese government or whatever,
it's like they can't even acknowledge the possibility that some
number of people, probably the majority of people, are like, wow,
killing kids. That's very sad, you know.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
Yeah, yeah, they're oh, I I've been incentivized to look
the other way this whole.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Yeah, they're just like they're like parents who are like,
don't you remember when you were young, Like you used
to believe everything we said?
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Yeah, right, exactly.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
You used to eat gummy candies of our warplanes. Yeah.
Now now you you're so mad at me. Now you
call them instruments of state violences. Yeah, this is not
my child anymore. Who I was able to fucking you
know see all the time. Yeah, it's and I think
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that's what's like really interesting when I look at this
all is we talk about how increasingly more engaged and
intelligent these younger generations are becoming, and like I'm wondering
if they're I mean, they must be looking at this
they're like, dude, we've got a fucking like these kids
are getting smarter and more radical. Yeah, and what the
fuck are we gonna do about this? And I guess
(38:39):
like they's just one response is like just fucking call
them the goon squad. Yeah, as a solution, rather than
like a rational human being try and understand what is
driving people to act and being like, well, can we
do that? And again, I think that's when it reveals.
It reveals why both parties are still they're from the
same Well. Yeah, it's like like we cannot go against
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the military industrial complict. Who the fuck is going to
say that unless you're like one of these on you know,
on the fringe, meaning not necessarily mainstream politicians who's like,
we have to stop all this like fucking unchained military spending.
That's never going to be the main stream because that's
America runs on. Duncan baby, that's just what we do.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
The core assumption, like legitimizing, like to the public, US
foreign policy since nine to eleven has been some version,
some you know, unsophisticated version of like you know, Islam
equals terror, right right, It's like, you know, like and
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and because of this, like anybody who is Muslim or Arab,
you know, can be held collectively responsible for the actions
of you know, legitimate terrorist actions like Osama bin Ladens
or whatever, but we responded to like nine to eleven horrible.
But like people, there's no problem just you know, holding
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the people of Iraq responsible for that or Afghanistan, because
it's just like, yeah, you know, you can just you know,
if they were Muslim, they should you know, get bombed
or whatever. And it's like younger kids. Gen Z definitely
doesn't believe that most millennials doesn't believe that, you know,
like people, we live in a diverse society where you know,
(40:29):
people are like they may have friends that are Muslims
or you know, they may be you know, like they're
you know, listening to work from people from you know,
all over the world and stuff, and like this kind
of like core racism and Islamophobia, like it just doesn't work.
And like none of this stuff that the US government
(40:52):
is doing makes sense unless you buy into that assumption,
which the kids do not buy into.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Yeah. Yeah, the racist old grandpa or racist parent.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
Yeah, they're gonna like yeah, and yeah, it's just there's
a disconnect and they can't get their fucking mind around it.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
Yeah, they're calling the kids like the student protesters. I've
seen a bunch of people call them like g haughties, yeah,
or say that they're trying to protest to institute sharia law.
And this is really just grandpa racism.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
I know this because I had a white grandpa who
was buryed into Fox News, and I know I know
when something is that perspective.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
Of right and it's a purposely bad, bad faith analysis
to be like, well, because I can't say what they're
literally saying, which is like, we want to stop the genocide.
We need an immediate ceasefire. Innocent people are dying. We
want our school to divest from businesses that are actively
profiting off of this. That's what it is. No one
(41:54):
is a fucking sign that says man sharia law. Now
to go to these sort of thought killing cliches for
people to be like, oh they want shariala okay, well,
I don't know what do these people are off their shit?
Speaker 2 (42:07):
Yeah. Even the stuff that's considered like, you know, very radical,
Like the viewpoint that it's considered like, you know, so
radical that it can't even be discussed, is that you know,
between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean, seeing it should
be one person, one vote, that everybody should have equal rights. Yeah,
everybody should have equal protection under the law. And you know,
(42:30):
you almost never see that argument represented, you know, just
as it is, like what the argument is actually for,
because I think a lot of Americans agree with that argument.
Like our country has already had a huge debate about,
you know, whether it's okay to deny people voting rights
(42:51):
based on their race or ethnicity, and like, you know,
so it's just like there has to be like these
sort of like bad faith, like these kids support terror
or whatever, because if they say what those kids are
actually believe, like too many people are going to be like, oh,
I don't know. That actually sort of makes sense.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
But no, they're anti you know, child murder, like child
murder and being buried under rebel. It's like, why disagree?
It's like so then you're pro that? Yeah, yeah, no, yeah,
well hmm, do you want to meet me where I'm at?
Because if it is, then you have to really define
where you're coming from, because if it's if it's that
well articulated like it is in ninety five percent of
(43:32):
the cases, yeah, then yeah you can. Only the only
thing you do without yourself is being like, well, then
I'm I'm pro death of innocence.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Nobody will articulate the real viewpoints here,
because it's pretty obvious that one of those viewpoints is
I'm pro murdering children, which has very few actual sympathizers.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
Yeah right, yeah, all right, let's uh, let's take a
quick break and we'll come back and talk about some
dumb bullshit.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
We'll be right back, and we're back.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
We're back, and AI has taken the tech world by storm.
Oh yeah, baby, wave of the future. Mm hmm, Okay,
some really funny pictures of Biden doing drugs off of
America's gravestone.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
Yeah, I did that when I was cool. I did
that in uh in Dolly. It looked kind of grainy,
but it was all right. Or you know, you can
you can get tupac entered the Kendrick and Drake beef,
you know, because of AI. Or there's there's everything, you
can do it all, you can do it all. But yeah,
the big thing that I saw in this Wired story
is it seems like the latest trend on social media
(44:53):
is ads for erotic AI girlfriends and companions. According to Wired,
there's like, you know, you can search like all the
ads that have ran on Facebook like in certain instances,
and they found that at least twenty nine thousand ads
had been published on Meta platforms for explicit AI quote girlfriends,
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with most using suggestive sex related messaging. There were also
at least nineteen thousand ads using the term NSFW and
fourteen thousand were offering NSFWAI and some twenty seven hundred
ads were active. When Wired reached out to Meta, They're like, hey,
what's up with all the fucking AI fuck bot ads
(45:35):
that you got on there? And the spokesperson said, oh, yeah,
we prohibit that kind of content and we're going to
get right on it. And then like fucking two days ago,
a Wired look and it's now there's three thousand ads
for AI girlfriends and eleven hundred containing NSFW that were
still live on the platform. So these chatbots promise users
(45:56):
all kinds of erotic interactions, like from raunchy chat to
AI generated porn images or like undressing your AI girlfriend
and then like you can finally unlock the nudie pictures
or whatever. You can even do images of humans or animals,
you know, however you want to get down, And they
even have ship where you can be chatting, you know,
(46:18):
with again this porn trope that is just at the
root cause of everything that's wrong with America, and it's
like you can fucking chat with your hot step mom
and like, yeah, fucking down with your AI step mom.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
Ew sorry step related part related.
Speaker 3 (46:39):
It's not like some Oedipus ship. All right, step mom.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
I was talking about like how I thought that, like
the step family porn genre was like really gross. One
day I was talking to a friend about it. I
was like, yeah, you know, it's just like it's really nassy.
Like She's like, I actually think it's hot.
Speaker 3 (47:00):
So I'm like, I.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
Get I guess some people are very into this stuff.
More a lot of people must be into this stuff,
because that's like.
Speaker 3 (47:07):
Some Brady Bunch shit. I remember like in The Brady Bunch.
I think it was like the first or second movie
when Greg and Jan had to ship like split the
attic basement, but like through a sheet and like they
were all getting hot for each other. I'm like, see,
this is what the fuck is going on? And Marsha right, oh, Marsha, yeah,
come on yeah, sorry, yeah sorry, man, I'm that was
for a while.
Speaker 2 (47:27):
It's like sexual tension between step siblings.
Speaker 3 (47:31):
That was like, and I'm sure too, like with their
rate of divorce in America, there are probably a lot
of blended families. And then they're just like, yeah, man,
this is kind of where your head goes.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
There's a lot of blended families where people are getting
stuck inside washing machines and need help getting out.
Speaker 3 (47:46):
Yeah, and they're only wearing an apron with nothing else on.
It just is what it is.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
And I, you know, I'm just I you know, I'm
not trying to be me in here, but I will
say it does sound like you're talking about AI chatbot girlfriends,
like they're not real girlfriends. And I just want to say, like,
if your feminism doesn't include.
Speaker 3 (48:05):
Robots, yeah, where are we even? Is that the farm
wave that we're about to catch is just bringing in
the AI sex workers too, and being like, no, this
is this also kinds because this is the thing. A
lot of actual human sex workers have quickly pointed out
this fucking weird double standard. Gemma Rose, who's the director
of the pole Dance Stripper Movement, which like a UK
(48:27):
based sex worker rights or organization, said, quote, as a
sex worker, if I put anything like I will do
anything for you. I will make you come in a minute.
I would be deleted in an instant because a lot
of these ads are like you will fucking blast your
whole nut off in one minute of talking with this
AI fuck bot. And Miles does work as a copywriter.
(48:50):
Oh yeah, yeah, who in the sky?
Speaker 2 (48:54):
Yeah, oh my god, that's so gross.
Speaker 3 (48:56):
Like but what's wild is like these guidelines, right, how
I've just affected like sex workers, Like people know if
you create content around things like sex positivity or sex
education like suddenly Instagram like yeah, flagging that shit. It's
like I'm telling you people about the fucking human body.
But you can run ads where it's like, hey man,
you want to fuck your step mom right this way,
(49:17):
see her fully nude with this chatbot. And it's not
clear what like Meta's next move is here. I mean,
they may just do like a massive purge of those
kinds of accounts like they did with like sex worker
accounts too. But apparently a lot of the reason these
platforms have cracked down on sex work too, even recently,
is because of a sex trafficking bill that became long
twenty eighteen, which basically made platforms responsible for like what
(49:41):
is posted. Yeah, but then that also unfortunately led to
like the restriction of consensual sex work or like consensual
sex work being categorized as trafficking like overall in the
online world.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
Yeah, and sex workers told us at that time. I'm like, hey,
this is what they're trying to do here, you know,
but like this is obviously like to crack down on
consensual sex work and a fitty thing. It's going to
and danger trafficking victims even more, you know, And that
has come to be the case. But you know, people
don't listen to sex workers when, you know, when they
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express what's going to be good for them, you know,
law wise or not.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
Yeah, sex workers are maybe the most kind of undervalued
human beings in like the US mainstream media. Like they
just aren't counted as human beings in a lot of cases.
Speaker 2 (50:36):
Yeah, which is weird because it's like everybody is and
I won't say everybody like you know, but there's I
would say that most men in the United States are
engaging with pornography on some level or another. Like I
certainly haven't very met very many men who aren't watching
like porn sometimes at least and also a lot of
(50:58):
women and also a lot of non binary people. But
you know, it's like this product that you know, so
many people are consuming, but the workers it's fine to
just you know, treat them as horribly as possible.
Speaker 3 (51:10):
Right exactly, Because again, yeah, it's like it's like, well,
you know, that's in line with the patriarchal aspects of
this country and also like the puritanical ones. It's like, well,
I mean like if women are suffering or then maybe
that's okay. Yeah, but yeah, for something that we call
the oldest profession, we should I feel like give a
little bit more respect to it. Yes, this profession has
(51:33):
been around for a long time, so there's a lot
of momentum to sex work.
Speaker 2 (51:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (51:38):
We talked about how like this platform that is a
competitor to only fans called Fanview that specializes in like
AI models, right, is like doing incredibly well. So like
this is this is happening for sure, gonna it's gonna come,
And I feel like people aren't going to stop it
(52:01):
because it's just taking away sex workers ability to make
a living and nobody is making. In the history of America,
laws and legislation protecting sex work has been shockingly absent.
Speaker 3 (52:18):
Yeah, but how quickly too. It's like, oh, yeah, we
can usher like this, this can take people's jobs. We'll
just let this this this tech version of like weird
algorithmic sex work be like the norm or whatever, and yeah,
well we will welcome your ad dollars, but not an
actual person.
Speaker 1 (52:38):
No, so does the step mom thing that like they're
using on the step mom thing pictures of like people's
step moms, Like is that what that means?
Speaker 3 (52:49):
Or is can you like load your own step mom?
Speaker 1 (52:52):
But I'm serious, that is like such a fucking violation
of product, Like if you're taking from Facebook and I
don't know not I think it's role play.
Speaker 3 (53:03):
Yeah, I mean, well cause already, I mean this is
where we're This is where it's so sticky. We've talked
already and like that AI beauty pageant thing how people
have just had their likeness just fully ripped from the Internet. Yeah,
that's what I'm saying, Like that's the future where we're
headed like that. I mean, it's already happening to celebrities,
but like I'm sure, like the fact that this is
happening on Facebook, Like I'm sure there's a future where
(53:27):
that's what people like that is what is being offered,
or at least not openly offered. But yeah, the service
that's being provided, which is so fucked up. Yeah, I'm
sure we're only i mean, like without legislation, I mean,
we're going to be there pretty quick. Like yeah, it's
probably gonna be like give us four pictures of a person,
like how it is now when people are like, hey, man,
(53:47):
want to make like your cool Disney like Pixar version
of yourself, It's like, give us five pictures. Yeah, and
that's just all the data we need and we could
probably faithfully recreate your likeness. And what's going to stop
that from like just kind of like fucked up violating.
Speaker 2 (54:02):
Yeah, there's just gonna be there's gonna be so much
revenge porn, but it won't even be like actual videos
of the person, and it'll just be like, you know,
a guy doesn't like a woman that you know, turned
him down or whatever, so he's going to generate some
AI porn of her blasted all over the internet.
Speaker 1 (54:20):
Yeah, horribly Well cool. Well, I'm sure the US government
has our back on that one. They'll probably figure it out.
Speaker 2 (54:27):
Figure out, But at least they banned TikTok yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (54:31):
Right, that's that's that that makes me sleep better at night.
But it's been such a pleasure having you on the
daily Zeitgeist. Where can people find you? Follow you all
that good stuff?
Speaker 2 (54:43):
Okay? Cool? So yeah, you know I did. I did
go off about political stuff a lot on this podcast,
but I also made a comedy special, which isn't it
doesn't have that much to do with politics. I have
a new special out on Amazon and Apple TV called Loopholes,
and it is about you know, it's it's about kind
of like the expectations on the Modern Lady, some of
(55:06):
the which we're talking about now, but like you know, sex, domesticity,
trad wives, reproductive rights, and you know, I think it's
really funny special. I'm excited to put it out and
you can get it on Amazon, Apple TV or it's
on YouTube as well. And I am on Instagram at
Kate Willett, which is a really good place to you know,
(55:28):
see my tour dates. I'm probably coming to your study
very soon, and I'm I'm releasing a new podcast at
the beginning of May, so if you want to check
that out, it's going to be called Ruining Dinner and
it's going to be released in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 3 (55:44):
Here dinner about Oh so.
Speaker 2 (55:48):
I'm going to have people on to talk about their
most awkward conversation topic, like the thing that they're not
supposed to say, like you know, yeah, comedians but also
journalists and like whatever, the topic that people ruined dinner with.
We're going to talk about that.
Speaker 3 (56:03):
Yeah, British cole gas study for me. Oh, British coal
gas study here.
Speaker 1 (56:08):
Yeah, I love talking about suicide at dinner parties.
Speaker 3 (56:13):
You know what's interesting, actually, you stop using coal gas?
Oh my god, hey speaking of coal. Nobody said anything
about coal? Uh oh wait were you just using the oven? Okay,
so decades ago, Kate.
Speaker 1 (56:26):
Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying
besides your own special of course?
Speaker 2 (56:30):
Well, I think like the tweet that I say originally
was like a tweet from more Perfect Union, and it
was about how Hawaii is going to ban or severely
restrict Airbnb, and I'm excited about that. I think that
that's a positive.
Speaker 3 (56:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (56:47):
So to finally see some pushback on like these sech
companies that are taking all these people's housing.
Speaker 1 (56:53):
Yeah, amazing miles. Where can people find you? Is there
a working media you've been enjoying, uh, Twitter, Instagram and
the like at Miles of Gray.
Speaker 3 (57:03):
If you want to hear well, I wasn't quite crying
yet about the Lakers on the latest episode of Miles
and jackot Mad Boosties. I mean I was, I was
preparing for for terrible pain. You're getting a tear Duck's
warm Yeah, yeah, yeah, next episode, I will fully be
just drowning in my own tears. But anyway, if you
want to hear us talk basketball, Miles and Jack got
Mad Boosties. If you want a switch, just a break
from the shit, and you want to hear me talk
(57:25):
about shit reality television, then check me and Sofia Alexander
out on four to twenty Day Fiance where we talk
about ninety day fiance. Some tweets I like at Awa
Rhiannon past guests Rhiannon and hermam just tweeted, I was
in jail with some batties, free them all, Free Palestine. Yeah,
I mean she was right there in the University of Texas.
So yes, I hope everything turned out okay for you.
(57:48):
And then another alec Herricktsana's tweet, I think just you know,
in times like this he's always just just getting to
the point I had. Equality, Alex said. One of the
primary functions of police to violently crush progressive social movements.
It's one of the reasons expanding the size of size
and power of police is always authoritarian and is never
an answer to inequality. It is a key part of
preserving inequality in all its forms.
Speaker 2 (58:11):
There, it is amazing. That's a great really well expressed.
Speaker 3 (58:16):
I can't beat that.
Speaker 1 (58:17):
But you can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien.
You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're
at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook
fanpage on a website Daily zeigist dot com where we
post our episode and our footnote where we link off
to the information that we talked about in today's episode,
as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles,
(58:38):
what song do you think people might enjoy?
Speaker 3 (58:40):
This is a song called cherry Pop by Jamison j MS.
And you know it's known as like a producer but
also kind of like does their own music worked with
like Kendrick the Game, k Trinata, Sango Taku artists like that.
But this track is just kind of like a like
a kind of haunted R and B pop song, but
(59:02):
it's it's just pretty cool. So check this out. Cherry
Pops by Jamison amazing. We will link off to that
in the footnotes. The dailyes guys the production of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 1 (59:10):
For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast,
or wherever fine podcasts, or give it away for free.
Speaker 3 (59:16):
That's gonna do it for us. This week.
Speaker 1 (59:18):
We are back on Monday morning to tell you what
was trending over the weekend. There will also be a
highlight reel from this week's episode this season Best of
Season three point thirty five dropping tomorrow, and yeah, have
a safe weekend. We'll talk to you all Monday morning.
Speaker 3 (59:37):
Bye.
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