Anti-Vaxxers Are Rebranding and The McDonalds Cinematic Universe 9.16.21

In episode 989, Jack and Miles are joined by the host of the Comedians With Ghost Stories podcast Emily Winter to discuss how the FBI completely failed US gymnasts, ​​Political Prisoner rally doesn’t want attendees MAKING IT OBVIOUS, Anti-vaxxers are now "purebloods", No One Knows What the Fuck McDonald’s Grimace Is Supposed to Be, and more!

FOOTNOTES:

1. The FBI completely failed US gymnasts
2. “WE ARE NO LONGER UNVACCINATED...WE ARE PUREBLOODS!”
3. No One Knows What the Fuck McDonald’s Grimace Is Supposed to Be 
4. One Day Smarter: Hilarious, Random Information to Uplift and Inspire Book
5. LISTEN: Yussef Dayes - For My Ladies live in Copenhagen

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two oh two,
episode four of Days Like Guys Said, production of My
Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take a
deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It's Thursday, September twenty
twenty one. My name is Jack O'Brien. Okay, she hates

(00:21):
big nuts and she cannot lie. Some other brides might
didn't I but when her man walks in without invermectin
puts those big balls in her face, she's just gone.
That is courtesy of either Rich Jefferson and uh Nicki
Minaj's cousin's friend fiance or whatever. Yeah, yeah, and I'm

(00:46):
thrilled to be joined as always by my co host
Mr Miles Grady trying to go and clone the mammoth,
but Jack said, no, no, no, Yes, it's being stink,
but when it's living, you will no no no. Thank

(01:06):
you so much to the super Tow for that just
wonderful Amy Winehouse rehab remix, because you know, people are
out here talking about bringing the fucking Willie mammoth back
to life to end climate change. But that's one of
the it's very hard to understand why. But thank you
for that tribute to Amy. Nonetheless, Yeah, and fortunately they
do have to check with me before doing it, so

(01:29):
I guess to be it's not happening. Huh yeah, sorry,
until you explain to me how getting an animal that
eats Arctic grass is going to restore Arctic grass to
the landscape. I it no for me, scientists, all right,
you heard it? Well my We are thrilled to be

(01:50):
joined by a very funny stand up comedian who writes
for Nickelodeon's new show That Girl, Lele Nprs asked me
another the New York Times of the New Yorker v
O Glamour. You've heard her stand up on Sirius XM
and seeing her on stages across the US. She hosts
the podcasts Comedians with ghost Stories, and her book of

(02:11):
Uplifting and Funny A trivia one day Smarter, drops on
October twelfth. Please welcome the hilarious, untalented Emily Winter. Thank
you so much. Thank you for having me on your
wonderful show. Who told you to say it's wonderful? Come on?
I got the memo. Thank you for coming on? Yeah? Yeah,

(02:35):
where are you coming to us from? We're on the earth.
Are you I am in Brooklyn, New York. I'm in
red Hook on my little hole back here. Yeah. Nice.
How did you fare during the floods and things like that? Sure,
there was the first one. I was in the Wisconsin
Dells and I was having no part of it, and
apparently my place was fine. And it's shockingly the second one,

(02:58):
I was fine too, as many of my friends got flooded. Yeah. Yeah,
we just got some extra mosquitoes. So that's wow. I
didn't even think about that. Yeah. I have a backyard
which is like, you know, basically, I'm it's a like
a mansion in New York. I have a little tiny
backyard and it's like just full of mosquitoes. Nobody's coming

(03:21):
over ever again, Yeah we could bite proof suit on
or something exactly. I hear that. Okay, so we I'm
super intrigued by the podcast Comedians with Ghost Stories. Are
you a believer? Do you do you believe in ghosts? Absolutely?
I think? Do you? I mean, do you guys believe?

(03:42):
Do you know? I don't know. I'm ghost adjacent. Does
that mean you have someone close to you that's seen
a ghost? Yes? Yes, but they they have they also
have a propensity for bending the truth a lot. So
it's hard, it's a it's a sore said I have
to consider, and I'm like, you know, you also kind

(04:03):
of just you'd like to see things happen certain ways
about at the time, but I don't know. I mean,
I'm also being Japanese, a very ghost centric culture, so
you know, I'm I wouldn't say I'm out here, like
I wouldn't go somewhere and be like, I'm not afraid
of anything, because on some level they freaked the funk
out of me. But have I seen one? No? Okay, Well,

(04:26):
there have been a hundred and seven billion people that
have been alive and there's only one like seven and
a half billion alive today, So like what happened to
those hundred and seven billion? There's gotta just mathematically, there's
gotta be a ghost, right, Oh, So this is like,
this is like how like people interested in like extraterrestrials

(04:46):
are like, for how vast the universe is, We're we're
looking at a near impossibility that they're out and out there.
You're saying for the amount of dead motherfucker's that are
out there, you're saying, there's not one. There's not a
couple of ghosts, there's not somebody hanging around. Yeah, I mean,
you know, went in doubt, just throw numbers at it.
The mathematical proof for the ghosts do you have, or

(05:09):
what's the freakiest story or what's the freakies experience you've
had through your ghosts encountering. So I I just love
listening to ghost stories. I have not been you know
how people say they're like old souls. I'm a new soul.
I'm here for the first time for sure. I am
so dumb about everything and I have no instincts um

(05:33):
And that's why I love other people's ghost stories, you know.
But I did, like batch record a bunch of ghost
story podcast a couple of years ago. And then weird
stuff started happening in my apartment where I live with
my husband, and he was like, we both at different
times thought the other person got into bed, and the
other person was in a different room, so we both
felt somebody get into bed. And then like he's got

(05:54):
a million hats, and one of his hats was just
like in the middle of the room on the floor,
and it had been like under a big pile. Anyway,
not that exciting, but we were terrified and saged the apartment.
We got real drunk. Then we staged. We opened all
the doors and all the windows, which there are not
that many of, and we told the ghosts. We invited
the ghosts to please leave, and then we never had

(06:16):
a problem after that. Yeah ship, Okay, well then bust
them up. Bust those ghosts. That is a thick skinned ghost.
I feel like being invited to leave is pretty It's
pretty clear what's going on there. They're like the funk
out here. I mean, I mean, we invite you seriously,

(06:36):
We're inviting you to leave. Now you're supposed to be
nice to them, would you r s V P. Yes,
that you are leaving? And this is where I'm this
is where we diverge because I'm not here for hand
holding the ghosts. You know, we've been handling them for
with kid gloves for too long. We need to take
a hard line with these ghosts and get the funk
on out of here. Time. Keep not knowing why the

(07:01):
dishwasher just turned on suddenly. Okay, bragging that is that
is kind of a flex especially. I meant me in
New York first one, first time having a dishwasher. So yeah,
I'm gonna talk about it just like remember Jack when
I got the refrigerator that had ice in the door.
You know what I mean. These are the these are

(07:21):
the steps we take. There's many a moment towards God's love. Yes,
all right, Emily, we are going to get to know
you a little bit better in a moment. First, a
couple of things we're talking about. We're gonna ask the
question whether Newsome's kind of landslide victory and the not
getting fired election is a sign of things to come,
how encouraged people should be. We're gonna talk about the

(07:44):
FBI completely failing the greatest u S gymnasts of all time.
We're gonna talk about the upcoming political prisoner rally that is,
for some reason, trying to remain a political I don't
quite understand that. We're gonna talk about the new wave

(08:04):
for the unvaccinated, ak the pure bloods that is fucking terrifying. Yeah,
and of course we will promise too and probably not
get to a story about Grimace. All that plenty more.
But first, Emily, we like to ask our guests, what

(08:26):
is something from your search history? Something from my search
history is so embarrassing, but I have been saying. I've
been talking about poppers on stage, and I realized I
didn't know what pappers were. So I was like, I
need to like know what I'm saying, you know, just
as like I don't know a courtesy to the audience,
because I've been talking about Lexi pro as my poppers,

(08:48):
and now I realized that's not even they don't even
that doesn't make sense because poppers are not little tiny
pills that you pop like, you know. I didn't know
how people because I'm a little nerd, you know, I
don't know people to look up poppers and where to
get them and how to get them and give him

(09:08):
a try right now I try. Now, I know you
could get the medical dagga or something. Um. Yeah, I
thought that's why they were called poppers. And then I
had a bag full of poppers that the movie is
the other night, and it was great. Yeah, wow, wow wow.

(09:29):
To clarify, because I feel like I only just learned
what poppers are. There's something you like inhale, right, and
they get high and also losing your muscles, including your
butt hole. Yeah. Wait, did you have a moment where
someone's like, do you know what poppers? Are I always

(09:51):
do this? Do you guys? Did you do this? And
I start talking about something for a while, and then
I realized I don't know what the hell I'm talking about.
And then I'm like, oh, I should google that for sure.
Oh yeah, you know we do. It's called this podcast.
You are listening to it? He stopped me. Nobody told me, Emily,
what are you talking about? They were just like, let
her carry on, she will figure it out eventually. Or

(10:14):
did they just think, wait, I'm sorry, how are you
using it in context? Again? I'm trying to even see
if someone could lee. So yeah, I was talking about
like depression on stage about you know, like I'm susing
old depression four times a year. Then and then like
I don't like pro. I'm you know, LEXI pro, I take,
I do poppers. I call alexipro or something like that, Right,

(10:35):
I just didn't scratching though, You're like, yeah, interesting relationship
with her, yeah, or like it's a metaphorical relaxation of
this thinker. There are so many people who went home
after one of your stand up sets and tried anal
on lexa pro and you knowesting experiences. Oh I hope

(11:03):
they mean, that's really bad because if you start lexapro,
I don't. I mean, this is gross if you're going
to poop a lot. Didn't even talking about poppers, Emily,
what is something you think is overrated? Overrated? Autumn seasonal vegetables?

(11:27):
Oh my god, I had a deconstructed burrito with sweet
potatoes in it the other day and I found it
extremely offensive. Yeah, I hate that. I feel like they're
more expensive. They're on menus and you know you're going
to have to have this do zucchini steak and you're like, no, no,

(11:47):
I don't. I don't want any of these vegetables and
I don't want to pay higher prices for them. Yeah,
this season of mushy ass vegetables right squashed and it fucked.
Oh stay loud, you know what I mean. Let them
know they can get falked to corn. Emily. H Wait,
I'm I'm more worried about you said you had a deconstructed,

(12:10):
deconstructed breakfast or burrito. Said it was a deconstructed burrito,
which means a way of being charged more for a
burrito bowl is fucking Vine went to hear those words,
but doing like deconstructed burrito, you fucking colonize every more.
What are you talking about? What is this? Who is this?
Why is this? It was so miserable. I had no

(12:31):
idea there was going to be sweet potato in it.
I ate it. I was so sad for the rest. Wait,
they you're saying it was a burrito bowl rather than
like a high minded way like if you went to
some fancy restaurant. They're like, and this bit of corn
represents the tortilla and this, and it's a deconstructed They're
just being like burrito bowl, but we call it deconstructed. Yeah,

(12:52):
basically lazy. Like literally they deconstructed by unwrapping a bristo
is dumped. It literally was a deconstructed burrito and then
they threw Yeah, they threw away the shell, the casing.
It's kind of deconstructed burrito if there's no tortilla representation, right, No,

(13:13):
unless you're eating it out of a bread bowl or something.
I mean, we're big. We're big on deconstructed like main
courses and you know, aside from being the arbiters of
what should be de extinct. Jack also chimes in on
these kinds of modern food trends, but usually has everything represented.
My favorite deconstructed meal was the deconstructed pizza as presented

(13:35):
by Lunchables. That was that was among the best. I agree,
though a vegetable medley of autumn vegetables is usually not
not good. It's it's usually too slimy and mushy. And
I am team fox Squash along with I'm just thinking, okay,

(13:56):
so it's Brussels sprouts, carrots, cabbage, pumpkin, although not talking
to the quable acorn squash, potatoes, sweet potatoes, yams, zucchini, zucchini. Right, Yeah,
it's more the squash family, the and the pumpkin like
kind of mushy like I like a good you know,
squash soup or like that. I'm good with it when

(14:18):
it's like blended up liquefied, but just the consistency does
always make me feel like I have to just you know,
battle my gag reflex when I'm I'm saying it, I'm
a fan, you're a squash head. Yeah, I don't mind
squashed at all, like when it's done like roasted, even
like little cubes like diced up. But I'm not paying

(14:39):
oh I'm not paying over for it. Still, I still
know what a squash is worth these days. What is
something you think is underrated? Emily, Okay, underrated. I don't
know what's happening out there in California, but I'm gonna
say underrated lawn sports. Because we all had to. We
all got to stop right stop being outside all the

(15:01):
time when we thought COVID was over for one second,
and I swore that I would never sit on a
blanket and drink a white claw and talk to my
friends ever again, because I was so bored of that
I could never do it again. And now we're all
back to the parks, hanging out at parks, and I
can't do it. And I have discovered all these lawn
sports and they are a way of escaping myself. And

(15:22):
I'm like, why is everyone in Central Park, in Prospect Park,
in mccaren Park not playing these games? Why are you
all still sitting on blankets? There's so much you could do.
There's you got spike ball, you got classics like Botti ball.
There's a new one called cross net that's so fun,
and they are just making me, I don't know, be
happy for like cross net. Cross Net is like four

(15:46):
four square volleyball, So you don't have to be good
at volleyball to play just mildly athletic. But yeah, so
it's just teeny tiny and you and you actually get
a good workout and then like you hit a friend
in the head and then you laugh about it and
you're not just sitting on a blanket drinking white claw,
drinking white cloth. Oh okay, yeah, I'm seeing it now.

(16:08):
It's great. Yeah, that's really fun spike ball. I like,
I'll play little spike ball. It's awesome. My my husband's
in a spike ball league and I had to play
the other day because his partner couldn't play, and uh
oh boy, got my butt kicked. There's a lot of
strategy that goes into that, but it's very fun. If
you see clips of Like whenever I see competitive spike ball,

(16:30):
I'm like, come on, now, I'm not gonna do all that.
But also I'm like amazed at just how the game
has played at that level. For sure, dude, spike ball
has been around since I think like something early nineties
and real early nineties vibes, but the guy that invented
it never patented it. So a guy that's like our

(16:51):
age was like, wait a second, I've got this. When
I was a kid, no one ever patented it. Now
he's like a zillionaire and uh yeah, very smart thing
to do, and he like reads in two thousand seven,
he like reignited the spike ball trend and is now
CEO of spike Ball American stories like this sucker didn't

(17:12):
protect his I p now it's mine. You know, I
didn't think of it that way because he's from Chicago
and I'm from Chicago, and I'm like, good job, good
job getting yours. But you know you're not wrong. Is
the original inventor like out here just like talking about
it like destitute. He's like, they took everything from me.
I just invented a game for all to have fun with,

(17:34):
very just things he had lying around the house and
now nothing. I didn't think about that either. I love
this happy straight white man finally got his you know
what I mean. I know it's about time in that

(17:57):
column for once, speaking of straight white men. Do you
funk with cornhole? Is that in your Yes? Yeah, yeah,
that's the Midwestern thing too, bigs cornhole. Yeah, I'll funk
with some cornhole. I love it. I'm no, I haven't really.

(18:17):
What's the one where you throw rope with a little
like yeah, I think yea ladder ball oh oh right,
right right where you just throw like the little bolo
things and get them on the little rungs. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's a good one. For a second, what are we talking?
What long game do I not know about? Now? Do

(18:40):
you guys play a lot of lawn games? Is that
a thing? I was just in l a in Griffith
Park and no one was playing lawn games. I pleas
played get off my lawn games, like being very hostile
to anyone who walks in front of your house. No,
I mean I have in my friend group like people
will bring out the ladder ball stuff or bring out

(19:00):
like some version, but not all the time. But I
think it varies from group to group. I'll say that
like all my local like Angelino friends who we all
grew up here, we don't. We don't bring out the
long games. It's the transplants who have parties who bring
out the long games. Okay, that's where I encounter him.
That's your nice way of saying, you're you're such a nerd.

(19:21):
I'm only which no, not at all, meaning like I'm
just too cynical, Like I'm like nothing brings you fucking
long game. And then I'm like, oh right, cool that
I do like big Jengage played most of these games sober,
and now I am I've haven't drank in six years.

(19:43):
I think I might want to try these and see
like what they're like not completely wasted. I think you'd
love spike ball, Yeah, spike ball seems like I don't
think I ever played spike ball. Oh you'd love it.
It cannot guarantee that you can start getting strategic on
that ship with how you spike it, and you know,
it's like it's it's how you spike it. Spike a

(20:06):
little little tapper, you know what I mean, make them
really dig it out. Who I actually didn't know what
spike ball was and I saw it on the beach
at the Jersey Shore and I made a mental note,
I should find out what that is. That looks super fun,
So thank you here were It's pretty easy to set up. Also,
can jam we got? I know, we got, we gotta
can jam? I feel like we gotta say it before

(20:26):
we okay, because that's a good one. That's I feel
like that now that is a new classic. I don't
know what can jam is? Oh, boy, I mean other
than a Candida, I'm not good at frisbee like disc
space sports, so I've I get a little frustrated when
I play, but it's it's it's fun. Mm hmm. So
you're oh, okay, okay, you gotta get a frisbee into

(20:48):
a can and I have a friend to help you.
The sign of a good uh long sport is you
look at a picture of it and you immediately get
it and immediately under damn, why would be fun? And
can jam gets crossed? Win wins that battle. For me,

(21:09):
it's all about alien a frisbee jack. Yeah, exactly. You
know that's fun, that's so fun. Alright, let's take a
quick break. I'm gonna go try all those sports and
we'll be right back. And we're back and as promised,

(21:34):
I guess, as advertised by Larry Elder, the Republican front
runner himself, Gavin Newsome just smoked the competition when it
came to the recall the exit polling was I don't
know that. There's a handful of articles now that the

(21:56):
like exit polling and all that stuff is in that suggests, well,
this is the this is what the Democrats are going
to do. In the mid terms and like the Republicans
are fucked. I don't know. I found a vaguely reassuring that, like,
so one of the big ways that they got the
one point five million signatures to like do the recall

(22:19):
in the first place was by like getting people who
are riled up about the vaccine mandates, but the vaccine
mandates were actually a winner, freag Gavin Newsom. Yeah, I
don't know if that was like the a change of
direction for the population of California, or if it was
just that, like it was allowed minority of the population

(22:40):
that was like really driving the recall, but not enough
of them to actually win an election. No, I mean
people they turned out for bigger numbers to basically vote
against relaxing COVID restrictions than they didn't even vote for Newsome,
like when he was first running as governor. And I mean, yeah,

(23:02):
the we talked about how sort of the strategy with
Newsom was merely just gesturing to the other candidates and
saying or them, I don't know, up to you, this
guy says a lot of stuff that isn't true. But
what are you gonna do? It's it's hard to say,
like how how much this will be deployed and how

(23:23):
effective it is. Clearly in places like California, like it's
very clear where most of the people who live here
how they feel about ending the pandemic and how we
get there. I'm curious to see how it works in
other places. I mean, granted, this is sort of part
of Biden's overall scheme or plan that where he's mandated vaccines.

(23:43):
The GOP got real mad, but when you look at
the polling, a majority of people aren't aren't upset by it. Yeah,
So it's like I get it, like this definitely if
as a binary in a in a lection, we're saying,
do you want to keep us safe or do you
want someone who saying we're going to take the breaks
off and fucking rewind to in that In that instance,

(24:06):
it's very clear. But I think it all depends on
how important the vaccine is depending on the voter, or
the pandemic is depending on the geography too, right, I mean, yes,
Trump carried a surprising percentage and sheer volume of the
votes in the election that I think horrified everybody. I also,

(24:26):
I don't know that it seems like I'm what I
am wondering if the anti vax or stuff and the
January six insurrection, I mean, those are not popular things,
like people are not like on board with that. So
the fact that those are kind of the biggest things

(24:46):
that have happened and been associated with the Republican Party
since that election, maybe maybe that will hurt them. I
mean it's I am slightly more hopeful than I was
yesterday that that will hurt them and that people are like, yeah, no,
that is we saw those you know, school committee PTA

(25:09):
meetings and they were terrified. You know. Yeah. I just think,
you know, uh, the strategy of saying, well, what about
this guy doesn't make me that confident like in the
person running, you know, And I get that as a
strategy that works, but you I'd also hope to see

(25:30):
the kinds of candidates are a way of campaigning where
you're actually trying I don't know, I mean, I don't
even know why I'm saying this, because they campaign on
so much ship that they don't deliver, but actually trying
to create results to motivate people, like how about you
actually deliver safe abortion access or you know, the safeguards
against voter suppression, changing child care and things like that,

(25:54):
like do that and gesture to that, because if you
just it allows them to be even fucking lazier and
not have to move anything forward and just say, well
you can okay, what do you want this guy? Right? Okay,
and then there's no there's no action. Yeah, but you know, people,
it's it's everyone is already writing their articles. This is

(26:16):
this is where it's gonna go. Do you think it
got to this point with Newsom because just because it didn't, like,
because the pandemic didn't end. I mean, it's just so
weird to me. I mean obviously no, no no, no, there's
a lot of Republicans in California. But it's just so
weird to me as a New Yorker for us to
like have gone through all of this with Cuomo and
for it to mostly work. Like New York City is

(26:37):
a very safe place to be considering everything right now,
and now we all hate Cuomo, but like for different reasons.
But like if I mean, I don't know, if his strict,
stricter ideas and like mandates had worked, this wouldn't have happened, right,
It's yeah, I'm well, the difference is like to get

(26:59):
a recall in California is really what it boils down to.
You just need a million and a half signatures or
I think it's like roughly eight percent of the electorate,
and then you can trigger a recall, in which case
if the if the incumbent doesn't reach any fucking sloppy
candidate who just has a plurality after that can instantly

(27:19):
be the governor. So it's a very like indirect or
direct way to sort of like short circuit the system
in California to try and yeah exactly, to try and
funk around and chain something by just playing very small
margins to try and get what they want. And I
think a lot of it is also this was a
way for many Republicans who, you know, especially after Biden

(27:41):
was elected, who were like, I can't believe I live
in Camifornia. Look at what they're doing. Like this gave
them somebody to really get behind and be motivated against.
But even then it wasn't reaching outside of you know,
that typical group of people to you know, deliver over
fifty you know, of the vote. But it did sort
of bond like far right and then like that sort

(28:06):
of I don't know, I just like to eat grass
and I'm not gonna you know, like it's weird how
it becomes circular and like yeah, like it's it's not
a line, it's not a straight political line. It like
turns into a circle. And like these like hippies are
like hanging out with these like hard and I'm like, wait, wait,
where how do you guys become friends all of those

(28:28):
like anti lockdown, anti vaccine rallies I've seen in California
or like New York. I'm always like pausing the frame
and I'm going like, wow, are all of these people
standing shouldered shoulder right now? I'm like, I guess one
thing is more important than everything else they talk about.
All right, let's talk about the FBI continuing to just

(28:50):
funk everything up and be terrible at their job. Smone Biles,
Mikayla Moroney, Maggie Nichols, and Ali Riceman testify in front
of the Senate Judiciary Committee to give their account of
how just awful the FBI's investigation into Larry Nasser was.
And it's really I mean, there was a report over

(29:11):
the summer that kind of highlighted a bunch of this stuff,
but it was really necessary and like brave of them
to actually put themselves out there, because I think it
highlighted it for a lot of people who probably didn't
read the whole report, just how completely the FBI had
fucking bungled this thing. Yeah, I mean, at first it
was just sort of like they did a terrible job,

(29:32):
and I saw some of the headlines, but again, their
testimony today was so if you even if you didn't
read it, just to hear people who are describing their
pain and trauma and just trying to pursue like some
kind of legal just like justice for what it occurred
to them. And then the lack of action from the

(29:52):
FBI was like really everybody like it seemed that was
in the Senate Chamber for that was just like just
kind of felt, you know. MICHAELA. Moroney has talked about
how she spoke with an FBI agent about her experience
and was like just so distraught through the whole thing,
and then like at the end of the conversation the
agent was like, so that's it, and she was like,

(30:15):
I just described really vivid abuse to you, and I'm
like very emotional about it. And then on top of that,
the agent didn't follow up properly, follow up based on
that interview and then drafted like a summary of the
interview that had just things she didn't say in it
at all, like falsified this report. Well, he didn't even
draft it until basically years later at least Cat got

(30:39):
caught ignoring the ship out of this and then he
was like, Okay, so here's my report on that interview.
And he was doing doing it after the fact, basically
making shut up. Yeah, and throughout this, you know, the
o i G. The Office of Inspector General report talks
about many other things too. Just how even despite that

(30:59):
Larry Nasser was free and was able to continue his
just abusive behavior even though they were they spoke to
many people who are just ringing this alarm, and yet
they did nothing. They even said that they were like
there was an agent who led the Indianapolis Field Office
lied to the Justice Department Inspector General it quote in
an effort to minimize or excuse his errors. So you know,

(31:23):
this is just like a very very sad, you know,
sadly very normal case where people are trying to seek
justice in when as it relates to like allegations of
sexual abuse, and law enforcement is just like unable to
do it or in this instance, just completely does nothing
at all to remedy the situation. And you know, all
the athletes that were there, they said, look like the

(31:46):
FBI failed. Also, Safe Sport is a total failure. Like
this organization that is supposed to investigate these kinds of
allegations couldn't protect us either. And when I, you know,
raised an issue, a lawyer for the Wes Gymnastics Association
like followed up with me. That was the first call
I got was from a lawyer, and they're just saying

(32:06):
the way everything is set up is completely antithetical to
any idea that it's going to protect people who have
allegations or need to be protected from abusive coaches and
you know organizations in general. It's very yeah, very FBI
kind of moment, especially when you see like how the

(32:27):
d o J is not going to prosecute the agents
when we've seen time and again that people go to
prison for lying to the FBI or lying to law
enforcement or making false statements. These people did that, and
the Department of Justice is stance is like, we're not
going to be pursuing that, right, It's not it doesn't
count of lying to themselves. Right, But so what's different here,

(32:51):
you know, and like that's where again we just look
at this fucking very inconsistent application of the law and
in this case, this is this is it seems like
such an egregious transgression and error, not even error, but
just action from these agents that to do nothing about
it is I think shows again how we will continue

(33:12):
to fail people like this if we're not going to
take things seriously enough to you know, reprimand people who
are involved with you know, obscuring the facts. Yeah, it's
super frustrating. Basically every thing you read about the FBI
is a complete nightmare. It's a it's a complete just
farce and has been since they were surveilling Martin Luther

(33:36):
King Jr. And telling him to kill himself. It's it's
a shitty organization that probably shouldn't exist. I'm curious to
see what comes of this. You know, a lot of
the senators said good things after they made their statements, saying,
you know, like we get that you're not here for
I'm sorry, you're here for action, You're here for justice,

(33:57):
and we will we will hopefully get answers from you know,
Chris Ray and other people at the FBI, But I
I you'd hope that there is some on some level,
you know, when you're looking at especially when other athletes
are raising the question at what other levels is happening?
Not just at the most elite level, like you can't
this this, we can't just treat this thing as something
in a vacuum. But then it was just sort of

(34:20):
disheartening too. And you have like Chuck grass Lee and
like Dick Durban or just like these older guys like
kind of listening to things like oh yeah, you could
just tell that they weren't really equipped to respond to
those statements a lot of like a few of the
other senators were. But on some level, there's like this
old guy kind of dealing with a like toxic elements

(34:41):
of patriarchy or just sort of like I didn't know
what to say. That's too bad, Oh that doesn't and
that's too bad for that those poor girls. Okay, well
what do we have? It felt like that. I'm just
sort of like, thank you so much. Oh that's that's awful.
I have a question, did they Would it have been

(35:01):
better if a female FBI agent asked you that? And
people like oh Jesus Christ, I just think, it's it's
it's it's insane that we're also like asking some of
these women, like someone Biles, to keep competing while they
have to con insistently relive this trauma um. And then
we're like, as an American public, furious at her for

(35:22):
not going finishing the Olympics. Like she's got enough on
her plate right now, you know what I mean, Like
she's doing more important work arguably, Yeah, I think, yeah,
And I think And she even said too, you know,
when she was giving her statement, she's like, you couldn't
even believe what it's like. Where we tell the FBI

(35:43):
things for years ago, it continues we hear other other
teammates say that now they've been abused, even though we
tried to speak up to end it and then to
like go back into the context of like competing for
the US and going to the Olympics, and like Simone,
but I was saying, like, I'm it's difficult for me,
like what I've been through and to not have the

(36:04):
support of my family as I normally would going to
an Olympics just I just couldn't do it. And you know,
she was saying, like we the people up there need
to ask themselves, like what is a little girl worth?
You know, because if the abuse stands like, we're sending
a message that it's not much at all. Yeah, I
think everyone that's yelling at Simone Vials on Twitter should

(36:26):
have to record themselves trying to do a KRT wheel
And that's what I want to say. I mean I
would do so. Yeah, I'm curious to see because like
I felt like with some of the Republicans, I know
a lot of people, especially Republican politicians, were had some
real fucking lame attacks on Simone Vials for not competing
in the Olympics, And I like part of me when

(36:48):
I was watching, like how many of these senators were
like made any comments? But I was like, it's hard
to know at this point. Right, all right, let's talk
about an event that I'm sure all three of us
will be attending, uh, the upcoming September eighteenth rally, uh
that scheduled to happen in d C. Where people will
come together to you know, rally around what they're calling

(37:11):
the political prisoners, the people who attacked the capital on
January six, and we're you know, chanting to kill, kill
the vice president, hang the vice president, they are have
been given light slaps on the wrist, and that is
a position that they, you know, the people who are

(37:34):
rallying think is on par with Nelson Mandela and the
Archetid state. They're all Nelson Mandela's free. The Nelson Mandela's
of January six, I think is the merch that they've
made Um because there's there's just such political prisoners. They're
not people who booked the lawn. We're just in facing

(37:55):
you know what happens when you do that. But Matt
Branyard is this former Trum campaign operative and it is
like currently the one sort of trying to organize this
September eighteenth rally, and it's this weird He tweeted this
weird thing out where like a lot of people were like,
what does he what does he mean by this? Matt
bran Yeah, he tweeted quote, we recrectly request that anybody

(38:19):
attending our events not wear any clothing or have signs
supportive of either President Trump or Biden. Anyone not honoring
this request will be assumed to be an infiltrator, and
we will take your picture, find out who you are,
and make you famous. This event is about hashtag justice
for J six and not the election or any candidate. No,

(38:43):
I mean I get it in a very broad sense,
which is remember they tried to say that these people
were Antifa and BLM infiltrators, that's who was doing the violence.
And because everyone was emblazoned with Trump ship, it was
just so hard for that to people Like, what are
you talking like, and all of these people's, all of

(39:04):
their communications, any research you're doing to these people, You're like,
it's clear to anyone they're not actors. Their their Trump
supporters who showed up to do this. Yeah, Unfortunately for y'all,
they have social media accounts that are like they give
us a beat by beat like accounting of how they
were radicalized, when they were radicalized. So yeah, it's complete

(39:27):
nutter bullshit. I don't like It's it almost seems like
they're trying to claim that as their own, like that
they will track people down, and I don't know, it's
a it's a very like, well, we'll do the thing
that you did to us to ourselves, if you like.

(39:49):
I'm very confused by this unless he is doing this
on behalf of the Trump camp, because the Trump camp
doesn't want to be associated with this because he is
planning around but just like zoom out right, if it's like,
if they're saying this is just about justice for the
j six or for January six? What was January six

(40:09):
about the fact that you didn't accept the election results
and you went to overturn them. So how could this
not be about that? It's yeah, it's utterly confusing. It
doesn't make any sense. I'm just trying to even figure
out what they think. They think. It's just they feel
that it will be optically better for them if when

(40:32):
this rally happens, they don't have pictures of people wearing
all of their political allegiances on them, so then they
can misrepresent what was happening there. Got it hilarious that
he said Biden shirts, come on, you know justice, it
appeals to all you know, not left or right. But yeah,

(40:54):
that's what I'm also curious about. Like, I mean, maybe
they'll be counter protesters, probably, but I don't understand. Sure,
don't wear the shirts and then you can lie more
about what happened. But I also have a very hard
time thinking that someone who's motivated enough to go to
d C again too, like protest, this has any other
clothes to wear at this point except for Trump clothing, right, yeah, right, exactly,

(41:20):
So we'll we'll see. But I mean, as of now,
I think the Homeland Security they suspect about seven hundred
people will be there. That's their estimate. It could be more.
But they're like, but a lot of the same right
wing actors will be there and not actors and that
they're faking but participants. Yeah, crisis actors. We get it, Miles,
we know what you're saying. Hired by Soros, we know,

(41:44):
we got it. All right, let's take a quick break
and we'll be right back. And we're back. And the
anti vax team anti vax is having a identity crisis

(42:06):
slash pr shift, you know, a pivot there, pivoting. Well, yeah,
I think there's too many headlines where it's like anti
vax personality passes away like this. There's like a recently
a prominent guy in Colorado just passed away who like
called himself like doctor anti vax or something. He recently
passed away from COVID. And yeah, they're just in a

(42:28):
constant identity crisis because they're they're not sheep. Okay, they're
free people. We're not we're unafraid. We're people that do
our own research. But they definitely don't seem to like
the label anti vax or. In some way. You're starting
to see more content where people are trying to like
reclaim it to be something more than an accurate description

(42:50):
of their beliefs, and which leads a lot of people
to be angry because of the preventable death that is
occurring as a result of people refusing to get vaccinated.
But yeah, they've got a new angle, they've got a
new attitude, I guess, is what you'd say. And I
just want to share that with all of that with
everyone here. This is kind of the new way that
they're doing and they're doing it very dramatically. I'm just

(43:13):
sitting here and I'm thinking, from now on, I refuse
to be referred to as unvaccinated. I want everyone to
now call me pure blood, a pure blood, call me
a pure blood. Um okay, oh yeah, I'm sorry. Like

(43:34):
feels very much. You bet in fast food one time
in your life, you're not a pure blood. Like, there
is no like. I'm like, if you've had mayonnaise, you're
not a pure blood. Like. I can't don't tell them
that I'll be known as a mayonnaise blood blood against
the world. But yeah, this, I mean, that's just not

(43:56):
weird at all. This identify as a pure blood. And look,
whether you're more Hogwarts or Himmler, I guess it all
depends on how you want to use that terminology to
describe yourself. Yeah, I mean, yeah, associating with pure blood.
And then there there's like one anti vaxer said in
like five ten years maybe less, all the people who

(44:18):
are unvaccinated, we're gonna be hunted. It's gonna be like
resident evil. We're going to be the antidote because everyone
else is fucked and we're going to be the only
ones with pure blood, which really is you know, when
you're combining like this is an existential threat based on
the purity of our blood, that's genocide. Ship, That's like

(44:40):
how genocides start. But well, I mean, I don't think
they're seeing the nuance. And I think I honestly, I
wonder how many these people like love Harry Potter, you know,
because they have no content. I don't know how much
context they have. As I've seen with a lot of
like anti vax rhetoric, there's a lot of like they'll
say things that drift into problematic historical context and then

(45:02):
they don't understand why they just know like buzzwords and
things like that. And this one feels just so millennial
to me, like this is this doesn't happen, Like we're
not saying this unless Harry Potter fucked up millions of
people's minds. I don't know where else, Like it just
feels it feels like an easy step for people. But
again a little bit grim. You're describing yourself like that

(45:27):
isn't pure blood, like what Draco malfoy and like the
Bad Guys isn't that even like the Bad Guy's point
of view? And I'm not familiar with all the lore,
but I did see a lot of jokes about being like, oh,
this is gonna get confused with a lot of Draco memes.
So yeah, but oh so you're saying in there that
just means bad. Well, no, it's a it's a value

(45:51):
like for for the same reasons that it was associated
with or like so popular with nazis like that there's
a lot of like not see ideology like tied up
in The Bad Guys and Harry Potter, so like they're right,
Like the protagonist is I think they call her a
half blood where she's like has a non wizard parent

(46:16):
or something like that. So and like yeah, there there
is stuff like mud blood and stuff like that that
they call people who have human blood or human parentage.
But like that's not good, that's not like so like
if these are Harry Potter fans, like they're uh, they're
missing the context or they're just like, yeah, we're a

(46:38):
team the bad guy. We're team Baltimore. What about you?
You Team Baltimore, Baltimore. I'm hufflepuff blood whatever that is.
I don't know. I'm dirty blood over here. Listen, the
dirtiest blood. I got the J and J vaccine before
we knew that one was gonna clot me up. I'm

(46:58):
just a giant walking clot around here. You see me
in Brooklyn, You're like, what is that? Lady. That's a
giant plot lady, that's it. Uh yeah, anyway, I don't
know anymore Harry Potter words. I used to work for
a teen blog and I was not on the Harry
Potter beat. Souple is the only word I know. Quidditch

(47:19):
had a great quidditch team. Remember it's the one weird
thing was like, let's not talk about this in public everyone,
But yeah, he played right, you had I've seen your
varsity jacket for that. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, look, okay,
look full disclosure. Yeah I was sucking it up, you
know what I mean. I was pretty good, but I
did it under a pseudonym cho Chang. Alright, So it's terrifying.

(47:44):
The fake vaccine car business is booming, but we can
talk about that on a later episode. What we need
to talk about is how no one knows what the
funk McDonald's grimace is supposed to be. You know, Emily,
you just mentioned, uh, you know, a walking clot and
I think the people people might think that that's as

(48:07):
good a guess as anybody seems to have. But so
it all started through a bath. Matt, he's kind of Harry, right,
I gotta pull him up here for a second. I
feel just like purple Google with the face. Yeah. So
there was a CBC interview with a McDonald's manager and
Windsor Ontario, who had been named Outstanding Manager of the Year,
and that's he therefore became the subject of an interview

(48:31):
with a major Canadian outlet because Canada is fucking adorable
and anyway, at the end of the interview, the manager
was asked what the deal was with Grimace. The other question, Yeah,
because like the other McDonald land characters are pretty straightforward.
Ronald is a clown. Mayor mccheese is a sentient burger guy.

(48:56):
The Hamburglar is a thief who loves eatings, despite the
fact that they clearly have the capacity for intelligence and
interest in regional politics. But they were like, but Grimace, like,
we've just never really been able to figure it out.
And according to the manager, he is an enormous taste bud,

(49:20):
which is fucking gross. How wait, how do we know?
That's the gospel truth? So we're so people started looking
into it. It is something that has been claimed quite
a bit for a long time. In twelve, the McDonald's
twitter accounts specifically stated that Grimace is not a taste bud,

(49:40):
but the quote embodiment of a milkshake. I was gonna say,
he kind of reminds me of like the last little
like the little bit of soda that doesn't make it
into the cup, you know, and it's just like syrupy
soda drop. Yeah, syrup soda drop and that's why he's
upset because he didn't get He didn't get in. But

(50:01):
there's no purple milkshake at McDonald's and there's no purple
soda available at McDonald's. Well, if he was brown, he
would look like poop, right right, that's true. And if
he was white, he would get dirty really fast. Yeah,
he would look like they'd sue for like like he's
a rip off michelin Man puff marshmallow guy. Oh believe

(50:24):
me that. So it gets this is follow me down
the rabbit hole, the Grimace rabbit hole. So our writer
j M looked back into the history of Grimace. He
actually began as a villain, introduced in UH nineteen seventy
two as the Evil Grimace, a purple monster with four arms.

(50:44):
He was basically the hamburglar, but he loves stealing beverages,
including coke and milkshakes, and in commercials we'd see him
like hoarding hundreds of cups of milkshakes and soda, and
Ronald and his friends would have to use their wits
to steal it back. Which why an adult clown and
two small children need ten times their weight and coke

(51:06):
was never addressed? Why why are they on trial. Man,
I have a theory now that I just made up
that there was a time that McDonald's thought that they
could basically be like the next comic book superheroes. So
they were like making narratives so that they could have
cartoons and books. And so you're saying the original m

(51:29):
c U, the McDonald's cinematic universe exactly is what they
were trying to establish. Okay, interesting, It just sounds like
they really were going for it with like stories of
you know, now we've got two villains, like, yeah, what
is that is that from a book? Jack? This like
evil Grimace thing, Like this is when they were like, hey,
like parents and doctor nate your kids with tales of

(51:52):
Ronald and friends. It appears to be a print ad
would be my guess which it is, like designed to
look like a storybook. But Grimace has four arms and
weird like legs, so it's basically like a six armed
insect that is also blob shaped, and it's it's Ronald

(52:14):
McDonald looking up in arms about having his milkshake stolen.
So Grimmas made the switch from good to evil, and
they cut off two of his arms in the process
because he was and You're not gonna believe this when
I when I tell you, because he was inadvertently scaring
their child customers. Because how a giant like fat spider

(52:39):
that steals your food? How's that like, Mr blood clot
What if we do it with a Jamaican accent? Do
you like him better? Now? Oh? They really hate this
freaky four limbed creature, six limbed creature? Huh. And then
there's the other reason for the redesign, which was that

(52:59):
McDonald was sued over there McDonald land Gang, which resembled
characters from the TV show HR Puffin Stuff, And I
think McDonald's actually reached out to them and was like, hey,
can we like license those characters and they were like no,
And then McDonald's was like, Okay, we'll just copy it,
and we're we have more lawyers than you yeaow. According

(53:23):
to the laws to McDonald's not only approached creator Sid
and Marty Croft about collaborating on a campaign that immediately
scrapped it, they also recruited former hr puffin Stuff employees
to help design McDonald Land so they lost that and
had to pay them a bunch of money. But so
Evil Grimace was based on a character called Seymour Spider,

(53:45):
and they I think just removed the two extra arms
to make him seem less, like a rip off of
the horrifying Spider. I just love that, like little tweak
that they're like, we're good, dude, we're good. Yeah six,
what are you gonna say that? That ain't no spider
your honor? A spider has eight limbs, we call our

(54:07):
expert witness. How many limbs does the spider have? E
it's a little baby spiders the defense rest your honor.
But wow, I love the the energy that they go for.
It reminds me of a tiny Fuppets that's cartoon. That's
clearly a muppet baby's room, but they do the lameages

(54:28):
like it's not Kermit, it's Kremit. Don't say it's has
anything to do with their original ip. Yeah ga, so
he was so what he's retired kermanently permanently, it's retired.
He's retired currently, but not permanently, because characters have been
retired and then come back and sexy new iterations like

(54:49):
the handsome Hamburglar that they released a design of the
kind of where did everybody out? A few years ago?
Hopefully they're planning a sexy Grimace, but you know, I mean,
I just I'd rather just have some closure around what
he is once and for all. Yeah, you know, it's

(55:11):
also like if that is a taste but it is
a swollen, infected taste bud that which is kind of
what it tastes like like after you've eaten McDonald's, and
your your taste buds like are like kind of have
pins and needles because you've eaten so much sodium and sugar.
At the same time, it feels like there's a layer

(55:32):
of Greece on your tongue that you can't get off,
you know what I mean, Grimace and that Grimace is
just the you know, impressionist kind of version of what
that feeling is after you eat McDonald's. Maybe that's what
it is. Oh well, you know, well we hope to

(55:53):
know the real you one day. M M big big g. Well, Emily,
it has been such a pleasure having you. Where can
people find you and follow you and read you and
all that good stuff? Thank you so much for having me.
This has been awesome. I'm very excited about my trivia
book that is coming out next month. I love trivia
and I got to write this over the pandemic. So

(56:15):
it's mostly uplifting trivia things that make us not as
sad because of the year and a half that we've had.
And it's called one Day Smarter, and you can get
it anywhere that you get your books. Pre Orders always help.
I didn't know this, but it's like why people put
like why bookstores put books on tables rather than on
bottom shelves because those books got a lot of pre orders.

(56:37):
So I appreciate pre orders. I'm on the internet at
Emily Winter Comedy dot com and Emily mick Winter on
Instagram and Twitter because my middle name is McKenna and
I made a decision a long time ago and it
was the wrong decision. Um and that is And you
can follow comedians with ghost stories wherever you find podcasts,

(56:58):
and thank you, and is there is there a place
that you would prefer they go to purchase the book? Honestly,
like if you have a bookstore that is your local
bookstore that you know you might end up paying seventy
cents more for the book, but you can ask them
if they carry it, and you can a lot of
my friends have pre ordered from their local store, So
hopefully your local store will have it. Is there a

(57:20):
favorite uplifting trivia effect that you can use as a teaser? Okay,
so this one makes me so happy. This is one study,
is just one study, but one study found that the
happiest ages a D two. And the reason for that
is that if you're still with it by a D two,
you don't care anymore. If you're like hot or rich

(57:42):
or like you didn't get that job, like, you don't care.
You're just chilling, You're just having fun. And so it
just makes me excited about aging because we're all supposed
to be like, oh no, I wish I was twenty
five forever and know we let's all get to eighty
two and keep our wits about us and have a
great year. Yeah. No, I think that's one of the
big underrated kind of myths of American culture is that,

(58:04):
like you, life gets worse as you age. Apparently that's
not true, according to happiness studies. Just kind of figure
it out as you go. You learn tricks. Is there
a tweet or some of the work of social media
you've been enjoying, Oh, you know, I didn't. I found
one today. I was on Twitter today, and you know,
Norm McDonald just died, so I feel like that is

(58:26):
taking over my Twitter, and I was getting kind of
annoyed with some of the norm McDonald tweets and uh,
this wonderful comedian in Chicago, Jeffrey Asthmas. It's Jeffrey with
a G e O F F e er. Why a
t M is his Twitter handle? He said, before you
publicly more in a celebrity's death, make sure the post
doesn't mention you more than them. And it's not a funny,

(58:49):
super funny tweet, just super super real because I'm so
sick of seeing morning tweets that are like me, me, me,
I I I. I'm like, okay, great, somebody's dead, you
know what I mean, Just show a little respect. So
Jeffrey nailed that, I thought, and it was cool. Yeah, yeah, Miles,
Where can people find you? What's tweet you've been enjoying? Oh?

(59:09):
You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles
of Gray. And also the other show for twenty Day
Fiance was Sophia Alexandra. If you like ninety day Fiance,
stop by for that because it's a raucous good time
and I just wanna shout at the the NICKI minaj
to Trinidad and Tobago cousins balls tweet as just has

(59:34):
will never end. It seems like past guess. Danielle Radford
at Danielle Radford tweeted, there is no big balls man,
is the thing professional healthcare experts were forced to say.
And this is because the Health Minister had to come
out and just say there has been no such case
as the Big balls man, and I just let me

(59:54):
try to find the audio. One of the reasons we
could not respond yesterday in real time to ms Manage
is that we had to check and make sure that
what she was claiming was either true or false. We
did an Unfortunately, we wasted so much time yesterday running
down this false claim. It is as far as we

(01:00:19):
know at this point in time, there has been no
such reported either side effect or adverse event. And what
was sad about this is that it wasted our time
yesterday trying to track down because we take all these

(01:00:39):
claims seriously, whether it's on social media or mainstream media.
As we stand now, there is absolutely no reported such
side effect or adverse event of testiculous while in Trinidad
or ideas see Dr Hanks anywhere else. None that we

(01:01:03):
know of anywhere else in the world. So just again,
the most professional response to a bad fake science tweet,
and just this guy, you've been feeling so sad. Gosh,
this is what happens when you This is what happens
when we get these platforms. They're too big. If we
forced someone in Trinidad do all this work because Nicki

(01:01:25):
Minaj had a really cool anecdote. Yeah, let's see a
tweet I've been enjoying is from a current guest, Emothy
Emmeothy Emily McKenna winter, who tweeted a while back how
to make friends as an adult. One say we should
hang to do not hang? Three, Say we should hang

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six months later, four cancel, five, reschedule six, respect their cancelation, seven,
reschedule eight, actually hang nine, say we should do this
more often? Can die? What I thought was brilliant, Well done. Uh.
You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien.

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as well as a song that we think you should
go check out. Miles, what song are we saying people
should go check out today? This is a track, a

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live track that was recorded live in Copenhagen, Denmark by
a great band um. This is a band that includes
Use of Days, one of my favorite drummers, Charlie Stacy
and Rocco Palladino, the son of Pino Palladino, one of
my favorite bassis. That's how you know you're getting old
and you're like Pino son. There you go. This track

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is called for my Ladies. When they get together, they're
just such fantastic musicians. They're kind of playing that new
jazz type vibe. And this is a bit of a
longer track, it's all over eight minutes, but it is
a tourd a force of of instrumental mastery. So check
this out. It's for My Ladies, live in Copenhagen, Use
of Days, Charlie Stacy, Rocco Paladino. Awesome. Well. The Daily

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that is going to do it for us this morning.
But we're back this afternoon to tell you what's trending,
and we will talk to y'all then, all right,