Anti-Vaxxers SO MAD, Goodbye To Instagram Likes 6.1.21

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Oh my goodness, what happened in the hallway. I have
no idea where that odor came from. Hello the Internet,
and welcome to Season one, eight seven, Episode one of
The Daily Zi Case. It's a production of My Heart
Radio and it's the podcast where we take a deep
dive into America's shared consciousness. It's Tuesday, June one, and

(00:23):
it's pretty June. My name is Miles Gray a k
an saying, oh maybe I like the grawl. Yeah baby,
I like the growl. Oh baby, I like the grawl.
Yeah baby, I like the growl. Chuck chuck, chucky, Yeah,
im chuggi ya give me the mike so I could

(00:45):
to get away off on the natural tooth bar voyage. Yeah,
from the Home of the Dodgers too squad. Okay, there
it was that shout out to my boy in out
of nowhere. My friend hits you with an a K
A yes in the key of old dirty Bastard. Thank
you so much for that. Without further ado, let me
just get to the main fan here, the guest co

(01:06):
hosting the guest, because without them, it's just some dude
who's just brambling on about his friends text message threats.
So first, allow me to introduce our honorable co host
for today, the one I don't even have to give
any fucking introductions anymore. It's Jamie Loftus. Oh a, kay a, well,

(01:26):
my name is Jamie Loftus, A frequent podcast guest. Am I,
but I host the dailys I Guess with Miles from
time to dame. If I could get rich hosting a
feminist podcast of my own, I probably buy the l
A Kings And right on the zamboon that wasn't what

(01:53):
I think is one of my favorites of all time.
That they from Chilton Bloomstone, which is a very rich
sounding name. Sorry, that's a name, Chiltern Bloomstone, Bloomstone of course,
of course children Bloomstone the fourth actually if you remember,

(02:14):
thank you child Bloomstone. Thank you Chilkee. And we must
go on. We must introduce our guests today, someone who
we always love around these parts, someone who you always
love around these parts, because I can tell by the
posts and likes, the interactions when you see this person's
face when we post about them being on the show.
I want to introduce our guests today, the wonderful, the talented,

(02:37):
my fellow Bruin who will leave you an emotional ruin.
It is blair sake, daily zy guy, You're fucking boy Blair.
Back to fucking hang with my pals. I'm yet to
do an a K. I'd really have to dig deep

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to be vulnerable in that way because if I could
have the skills to execute. But maybe one day it's
going to happen. I see. So you you happen you
adopt the like O C. Surfer affects as like your
shield for your a K. Oh my god, Oh my god,
Miles Jesus seriously so serious that I think Blair could

(03:20):
do an ak as herself. Yeah, thank you, Jamie, thank you.
I'm just I was just exploring that I saw that
there was some hesitation through the Huntington Beach. Bad boy. Okay, Look,
first of all, as a former resident of Orange County,
I just spell I am not associated with Huntington's Beach anyway,

(03:41):
and I want everyone out there naturally to know that
I do not except Huntington Beach as my own, right
I mean, is that because of just the cool Tito
warties and all the people of Huntington's Beach and how
they get down. Yeah, I think it has something to
do with all the genius rhetoric that's coming out of
there lately and all the very likable and safe, sound

(04:05):
minded people are. What part of o C did you
grow up with, Samuel and Capstrano and sant Many. Oh yeah,
very south? Okay, okay, I got you. I got about
thirty five minutes south of Huntington's Beach, many miles away.
I've always thought of Huntington's Beach as a great exchange

(04:26):
of ideas. It's a real ye, the Paris Commune, if
you will. A lot of three gorgeous kind thinking comes
out of there. Yeah right, yeah, I'm thinking that the
world may not be ready for honestly, yeah, I don't
think they are. And you know what, it's it's it's fine,
and just you can y'all can just chill down there. Anyway,

(04:48):
let's get into what we're gonna talk about. Obviously we're
gonna get to know you even better, Blair, but let's
talk about, you know, just a quick preview what we're
gonna divulge or discuss today. First up, a little bit
of good news because big oil, the fossil fuel earth fuckers,
they're starting to take else kind of and I mean
it feels insignificant, but when you actually think about it, like, oh,
this is actually significant. So we'll have a little bit

(05:09):
of good news on that front. Then we're gonna talk about,
you know, the vaccine incentives seem to be working, the
vac Similian thing in Ohio. They had their first winner.
I guess these incentives are working to the point where
now Republicans are introducing bills to stop vaccine incentives because
if they're evil. Um okay uh. And then we'll talk

(05:30):
a little bit about a new development and Instagram likes
and sort of what came out of the research from
Instagram saying like do we need likes? Do people need likes?
Is it healthy? Is it unhealthy? So we'll get into
that and also just talk about, you know, just a
little bit of the origins of Cruella Deville, which I
did not really understand or know about. Our fabulous writer
jam has given us a piece of that and says,

(05:51):
you know what, yeah, you know, they were doing Cruella
pretty dirty, So you know, maybe this movie can be
a good chance to create a human being who isn't
just a depiction of a woman in a car that's dangerous.
I've been saying for years I should be allowed to
kill dogs, and it's not to say that I shouldn't
be doing that. Okay, Okay, we're going to get into that.

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But first Blair hit us with something from your search
history that you know reveals a little bit about you. Okay,
So I clicked up my Google search and the first
things that came up were black, tormaline, crystal, and then
the second was what has post Malone been up too lately?
What's the answer to that question? I don't know. Like

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what I love about post Malone is that he's constantly
just like trying new things. You know, He's very unbound
by any sort of convention or genre, Like you know,
he did that the whole Nirvana thing, and he's always
in crocs or like weird brand partnerships. He just beats
to his own drum. And I love that about him.

(06:58):
Do you. He's a big Dallas cow Boys fan too,
Like that's a huge part of his brand. He's always
I feel like the lasting I saw him in was
like the most ridiculous Dallas Cowboys suit. Yeah. What I
love about him is he's just like a melting pot
of like so many things that you would never know
could go together right, right, he contains multitudes with like

(07:20):
all the brand collaborations. I feel like, like Jamie, that's
even something you I could see you be like, yo,
Jamie's got this. She has a croc a doughnut, uh,
like a whole like set of gas station sushi. Like
I feel like a lot of different dope collation. Right,
there's an untapped market is gas station sushi. I feel

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like it's yeah, someone's got to step it up. I
would love to get in the ground floor of that.
Because the branding on gas station sushi, I mean, they
have a branding issue. It's not a product issue. I've
never gotten sick what they It's a trust barrier, theft
to overcome. And who better than a podcaster journalist like
fantastic to creator that you know? To you, maybe you

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don't know, but I'm telling you the people at seventy six,
you're gonna want her face on these sushi packages. People
are going to be running for them. I want, I
want to plug. I want to pledge my future movie
star dollars to your gas station sushi right now. Absolutely,
I think you could turn this around for everyone. Thank
you so much. So You're pledging your fortune right now. Yeah,

(08:25):
I mean some I like to consume sushi, and if
it was on the go option that I trusted from
Jamie Loftus, absolutely, I'm putting it down the gullet. It's
a solid movie star investment to make. It's like when
Mickey Rooney invested in Circular Hot Dogs once and oh
that's yeah. He tried to make Circle Hot Talks happening.

(08:46):
He also tried to make Soda for Dogs happen. Hold
on circu like like you take off Frank and just
make it like a halo like Hamburger, like Hamburger and
by you kind of it's kind of like it's like
a real these skinny meat doughnut, is how I would
describe what he was trying to do. It was like
in the eighties and he was just like, what if

(09:07):
so you can put it on a Hamburger bun? I
think was the idea. The middle part is all like,
ain't nothing in the middle empty? It didn't. The business
didn't work, and Soda for Dogs. Soda for Dogs was
another failed business venture of Mickey Rooney's. I forget why
I know this, but he had a lot of fun
businesses that that just totally ate. Ship soda for dogs

(09:29):
sounds like it could be a good idea, But I
did just say that it should be legal for me
to kill dogs, but dogs for years and you're merely
just posing a question to what it means to be
able to or not able to do something. But we
all are dog lovers here, right, I just want to

(09:50):
make sure we're on the same page. Oh yeah, okay,
So have you ever thought like, oh, I want my
dog to know this because that this dog soda things
sounds good thing where you're like you think you know
what a dog wants, and you're like, dogs, man, they
want the soda, and I feel like they need a dog.

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I've never wanted to I've wanted to give people things
to sunny, but soda is not one of the things.
I felt like sad that dogs can't have chocolate. It's
like I have felt like actual sadness about that before,
like just walking around, like on the street and be like, damn,
they can really never have that, you know? But I

(10:32):
guess we don't. We are ego like mine thinks we
know what's best, but really we have to give these
dogs the dignity of their own experience, fantastic, Thank you
so much the insight. Yeah, that because chocolate is even
like one of those things when people like I don't
like chocolate, I'm like, really like you dislike I guess
if you're not saying it's your favorite thing. When people like, oh,

(10:53):
I don't, I don't like it. I don't like it,
I feel my heart. It feels like when people say like,
I don't really like me music, and it's like, even, like,
what are you talking about any music? That makes no sense?
That gang? I know we have a broad coalition of listeners.
If you are one of these people who says I
don't really like music, can you explain what that means

(11:14):
to me? Like you do, You're like, please turn that off.
I don't like it because I know some people just
ambivalent towards music. They're like, I don't feel like, don't
keep up with stuff or whatever. But like different though,
don't you think? Yeah? I think honestly those people that
say they just don't like music as like a whole.
When there's i mean, maybe one million different types of

(11:35):
strains in genres, it's really sort of a lack of
vulnerability issue. In my opinion, they're unwilling to open up
to something that could really deeply move them. Yeah, they
maybe haven't heard post malone yet. I agree with you. Yeah,
oh man, a good idea. Okay, so let's move on, Blair.

(11:57):
What's something that you think is overrated? Okay, overrated? I'll
the gate. I'm gonna have to go us and tell
you guys. I have a really visceral reaction to when
people use the word epic, probably because I am from
Orange County and so like for me, it is when
you like, sort of like when you drank too much

(12:18):
tequila when I in high school, so you can now
never have Jose Querbo again. But anyways, Yeah, the word
epic just makes me sort of shiver, quiver in my bones, run,
it runs a little chill down my spine. You know, wow,
what like is there any is it in that sense?
You go, oh, it was fucking epic? Yeah. I reject

(12:41):
the the ironic reclaiming of epic two. I have no
interest in the reclaiming of epic and random in the year.
How are you seeing the use of epic Like, I'm
I'm more narrow in my experience with that word, and
it's always been like bro vernacular. Yeah, you know what
it gives off a strong um senior copywriter, like very

(13:05):
confident um guy who works at like a marketing agency vibe,
you know, and he's like, yeah, I was, we are
an epic weekend like out on the water and it
was epic anyway, Blair, thanks for covering for me and
working all weekend, man, because honestly, if you saw the picks, dude,

(13:26):
Rod fucking did a back flip off his sea du
and landed that ship. Dude, it was fucking e p
I C. It's like a word used to describe in
a weekend where boys get really hurt, like yeah, got injured. Yeah,
there's nothing, there's probably crimes committed. When someone saying it

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was epic, I must acknowledge like the general hypocrisy of me,
you know, having a version to that word when that
sort of is the whole um vibe in which I talk.
But you know, the word itself, I I really don't
like that much. Yeah, but your your energy transcends what
we could ever, you know, pin to some kind of

(14:08):
word or way of speaking, So I wouldn't I wouldn't
worry about that. Thank you so much. Yeah, that's true.
It's true. That's we only have transcendent guests on here.
That's okay. And finally, Blair, what is something that you
think is underrated? Okay, guys, I just got to be
straight up with you. Chip clips are incredible. Okay. You

(14:31):
will not catch my cereal getting stale, no fucking way.
Thank you God for this sophisticated as invention that just
brings joy and laser execution into my life. Chip Clips
are the silent, subtle assassin of adding overwhelming value while

(14:53):
asking for little to no recognition. Chip clicks are the
Scott be pipping how old kitchen? Where? Yes? Yes, cereal?
That's totally is it? Am I like fucked up for

(15:14):
not realizing that? Yeah, that I've never I've never sealed
the cereal outside of like the box. That's brilliant. One
day I just was walking by in the store and
it was like a little thing sticking out in the aisle,
you know, and I just grabbed like a whole like
a um, it had like a whole bunch of them
on one thing. And from that day on the amount

(15:36):
of just my life improved skyrocketed. And it's like I'm
putting those chip clips on on frozen disks and chips
and cereal, and it's just incredible. It really is, Like
which is it the ones that you it's like the
straight bar so it's like a hairclip one, or the
one that's more like a binder clip, because you know,
there's there's different chip bag clipping technique, different one. I

(15:57):
think if the second one is kind of like elegant
where I was like, oh, this is it's that kind
of it's a binder click. Yeah, mine is actually not
like a binder one. It's more um fastened like a clothespin,
but just um really sleek plastic and wow it works
really good. Yeah. I remember as a kid, I think

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because the frequency at which I would eat cereal, it
wasn't really time for it to get stale, you know,
because like it would probably be like a boxing cereal
probably be done within a week or so. And then
I remember like going to kids houses and like you know,
like their parents had like the ship in like the tupperware,
and like they would pour it out of like a
and I would always be like, you don't even know

(16:38):
what you know what the box on the other fuck
is stupid. And then I'm like, yeah, that ship is
way fresher. How am I supposed to know what that
is if there's not a cartoon. I know, but that
just shows you by the child brain at the time. Like, man,
it's like cocoa crisp. I can't I can't tell about
the robbers on it. I like the taste of stale food,
and so sometimes I'll like not clip the chips, and

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then it creates how alsehold issues because Isaac will be like,
you're a little mouse, like why are you doing this?
Why are the chips like soft? But I kind of
like when the chips are soft, wow, so you like
you're not You're down with a little bit of stale chip.
I love. I love a stale chip in a flat soda.

(17:18):
I don't know what, like I should should I should
just walk into the ocean. I need just natural contrarians. Yeah,
it's true. It's true. If anyone prefers a stale chip,
let me know, because it truly, like doesn't bother me
at all. I enjoy it. I wonder, man, that could
be an interesting that's like your circular hot dogs is

(17:42):
like pre staled chips by Jamie. Well, yeah, I'll just
sell bags of chips that I already opened, had three
chips from and then put back in the cabinet for
three weeks. Touch a stale from Jamie Loftus. I hope
this thing though too, where I know people who put
chips in the refrigerator and I don't understand, like clipped

(18:03):
and in the refrigerator. Well, that's that's sort of innovative.
My mom taught me to keep my coffee in refrigerator,
which was something I never considered. The beans, the ground beans.
I don't really funk with a whole bean myself, but oh,
you get the pregrounds. Yeah, I mean I don't have

(18:24):
that much time or ambition for that many steps in
my coffee process. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I I used to
just drink it out of a can. That's how much
energy I put into it. But also shout out to
Sam over a timeless coffee always sends me wonderful coffee
that matches drinks. Oh, my beans are like so good.
I feel like I'm not worthy of good coffee because

(18:47):
I'm just so used to drinking like Kirkland coldbrew. But
like when you actually get all these notes, You're like,
oh ship, I feel like I'm an ad executive. We
just said he had an epic weekend or something. Yeah,
that's exactly that's the true. All right. Anyway, um, let's
take a quick break and we'll be right back to
talk stories. And we're back. Let's talk a little bit

(19:17):
about some good news for the Earth, because it was
kind of a rough week if you're in the fossil
fuel earth desecration business. Yeah, much week for RuPaul and
the Oh my god, my favorite wait is Ruler Sorry
and his husband are notorious frackers. I think that came

(19:41):
out at like the beginning of the pandemic, where like
everyone found out that RuPaul was fracking, but then we
kind of had bigger fish to fry. But RuPaul notorious practice.
March one is when they came out, and then rumors,
what's the timeline of the ridiculous rumors came out in August?

(20:02):
Oh wait, no, no, that's after the fact. Man, I'm
so bad with numbers right now. I still think it's
sometimes okay, but yes, in this instance, just let's just
check in with Exxon Mobile. Okay, heard of them? Probably
they're one of the worst polluters on the planet. An
epic polluteric that's where you know that shareholders meeting is

(20:22):
just a few dudes who are you know, waiting to
just say how epic the fucking the profits are. But
from the end on annual fishing trip, I fucking love
that weekend, favorite week in the year, dude, So sick, dude,
we through like spent plutonium rods into this lake to
see what it would do the fish and it was
a boil into the ocean used as a fucking slipping slide,

(20:44):
my dude. So at X on Mobile, like a group
of rogue shareholders were able to install two independent directors
to their board of directors. Like this was a math
sive campaign because for the whole time, a lot of
these shareholders they're like, uh, you know, just we own

(21:06):
a lot of stock in this company, and just as
a matter of a business practice, we think ignoring climate
change is a terrible strategy because there's like things like
people's retirement and pension funds wrapped up in it. Like
they're trying to be like response, like, if we're gonna
be putting money in this, it has to last. So
there was this an entire campaign too, essentially get like

(21:28):
when these elections were happening, get this massive ground Sowil
of support, but behind two of these new directors on
their twelve person board, and this is like again it
sounds like, okay, well it's fucking two verse ten. But
this is the first time there's ever been like people
who are there to be like, I completely disagree with

(21:49):
everything you're saying, and I'm also on this board like
it was all it was either done you know, light
touch or whatever, but never to this extent. So you know,
a bit of discomfort for them. That's I mean, that's
generally positive. It's so I mean, this is also fucking
bleak in general, where they're like, wait a second, we
need the earth to last a little longer. We're going
to continue to profit off the earth, so I guess

(22:11):
we can't blow everything up. So like I I mean,
I guess that this was going to have to happen eventually,
but I don't know. This is the other ridiculous thing.
The amount of money spent before this these votes were tabulated.
It was like a full on, like millions of dollars
were spent just to change the makeup of the Border

(22:33):
directors to get two people who were less inclined to
shoot on the earth for more money, they're more money. Yeah,
it's like they'll they'll make that money back in seconds,
to the point where like ex On Mobile, they declared
a recess in the middle of like the like the
meeting because they were like a funk, man, I don't
know if we got like enough votes for the people

(22:55):
we want, and they were trying to like stop the
vote again. And I think that's as signed to show
how fucked up in ghoulish all of this stuff is
like the inner workings that it even costs millions to
sway people to make more millions by abandoning a practice
that is like just extracting minerals from the earth that
are finite rather than you know what about unlimited seem

(23:19):
like a good business decision. I don't know. I mean
my assumption. I don't know anything about the the board
of Exile Mobile, but my assumption is they're all old
as ship and don't care what happens in twenty years
because they will have died. Yeah, I wonder, yeah the
age makeup what what that looks like. And then Chevron
they also had something, they had a little bit of

(23:41):
h us that shareholders smacked their little greedy hands back
cast their support to get behind the proposal asking Chevron
to cut its greenhouse gas emissions. They're like, look, I
don't know, like whatever you said is happening, Like it's
not good enough for us, and like, well we could
do this, and and we said we're doing this, and

(24:01):
they're like, no, no, you've you've been You've been just
dragging your feet too long. So here it is, please
do this from all the way down from your operations
to supply chains. This has to come down significantly. So again,
I don't know, it seems like people, I guess the greedy,
you know, the people who are even have these shares
and are willing to do this. They're even realizing there,

(24:23):
I guess money is at risk. So shout out to
oil companies in the eleventh hour realizing the Earth needs
to exist to make money on Earth. Really incredible work,
you guys. I mean, what do you think. There's there's
so many things, and you read about climate change, like
it just become so disheartening because like the last thing

(24:43):
I read was like satellites have been grossly underestimating the
heating of the Earth. I'm like, oh my god, no,
really yeah, like they're these like really fucking apocalyptic headlines,
and it don't. It's it's truly one of like the
multiple absurdities that we have happening concurrently in like global society,

(25:04):
where we're like we're just like setting ourselves on fire.
Sometimes I just can't go on Twitter because there's like
at least one tweet a day where someone's like, good
luck enjoying your day when the earth is going to
be on fired four years. I sort of God, that's like, seriously,
just like what Twitter is like distilled down to me

(25:25):
for today, I'm like, do I want to go on
there and see that? Because it does feel like there
consideration for climate change feels like something that people are
just now thinking about, like in the last few years,
like critically and seriously. I wonder if it's like because
like there's this thing where like the old people who

(25:46):
have been in charge of like a lot of these corporations,
like they're hearing maybe like they're their own grandkids, like Hey,
I don't know if you do you do you know whatever?
Just cut? Does there money on my credit card? All right? By?
I don't know like if they're seeing more pressure because
I remember when I went to Alaska a few years ago,
I was like I visited a glacier and there was

(26:06):
like this whole thing about being like, look how significant
this glacier was and how it's receded over the years.
And there was this older couple who were there, Like
the woman was like, oh my god, it's so horrible,
and her husband was like, you believe in this stuff?
And she's like, Bill, it's melting, Like it's what do
you mean we're seeing like up and and he was like,

(26:29):
I don't know. It's like but think about our grandkids.
He's like, I don't know. It's like I don't really
have time for that. Like they just kept going and
I was like, wow, what a moment to just see,
Like I guess yeah, everyone has their own indifference for
things like that or can't fathom what their future is
going to look like. So well, in general, it's easier
to not think or not feel feelings than to feel

(26:52):
the way and truth of the feelings in your soul. Yeah,
Bills just like, not not for me, but it's melting
it the way it was said melting like I don't
believe in that was like it's ice cube melting though, Bill, No, no, No,

(27:12):
too many things I've already we'll see. We'll see how
bears that for the end of the planet today, come
on our beer tastings in forty minutes. I do agree
player that, Like, yeah, logging into Twitter every day is
like it kind of becomes the like remember you will
Die zone, just like full on Memento Maria, anytime you're like, oh,

(27:36):
I just was hoping to see a couple a little jokes.
I just like a couple of little jokes this morning.
But you're right, I will die. And and sometimes I
feel guilt, And I mean, I know this is a
shadow aspect of myself, but I feel guilt for posting
a joke when I'll see twenty tweets about like the

(27:59):
all the crisis of today, and and then I forget, like,
oh great, now I've come on to a place where
I feel guilt of being myself and what I feel
my purpose to spread in the world is, which is
jokes and laughter, you know whatever. Yeah, it's a very
bizarre place to exist, Yeah for sure. But I think

(28:21):
that's just sort of like the surreal and fucked up
nature of like social media is like when you're like,
there are these things where people contribute their words too.
It begins to just look as like your existence is
sort of distilled to whatever is posted there. When it's
like I saw how sad I was in person. Guys,
you would I started. I started. I don't do it

(28:42):
on Twitter, but on my Instagram. I used to be like,
I don't wanna write like sincere stuff on there, and
now I like write sincere stuff all the time. And
sometimes I have that thought in my head where it's like, oh,
like that like comedians who are like Earnest, Oh my god,

(29:04):
And then I'm like, fuck you. I give you, guys,
so many jokes and stuff. I can be sincere and
my real, true sensitive soul whenever I want. But you're
reminding me that I'm not being votable. Yeah, now I
feel guilty. Their epic fail of a post your Instagram

(29:25):
is is such good vibes player. That's so sweet. Thank you.
Oh God, I would say to all people, you know,
we're again. We're facing omni crises all over in many
different turns. Um Unfortunately, like apathy around climate change is

(29:46):
the is the thing that is probably the biggest problem.
But at the same level, it's like I think it's
about figuring out how I think you know whether it's
more people can't just symbolically do shit anymore, and we
need like real answers, real regulation. And as much as
they want to be like whoa or your fucking lightbulbs twisty,

(30:06):
you know, your straw's paper, I'm like, hey, asshole, I
don't generate the fucking power. Oh my god. When that
like the straw thing came out, it was hard for
me to accept because I love a straw. But also
I was just like, okay, great the straws, but why
aren't we getting rid of dodge rams? You know he

(30:29):
first since first straws over here because someone drives past you.
When the hummer is like, excuse me that straw is
it slams the brakes hold on. Yeah. It's like I
I am concerned about the turtles and it's like good,
I want their turtles to live. But like we do

(30:50):
also have to reckon with humankind as well. Um well,
speaking of reckoning with humankind, I just want to talk
about vaccine incentives. It's been you know, just all the rage.
You know, we know in Ohio they're doing vax Similion
where you know a few people could If you're vaccinated,
you are eligible to win a huge million dollar cash prize,

(31:14):
and last week they picked their first winner and it
was twenty two year old Abbe Bulginski from Cincinnati, who
when two year old, got a million dollars. She was
on her way to buy a used car when she
got the call from the governor to be like, hey
you want It's like, are you fucking what is this joke? Dude,
I gotta go buy a used car. And they're like, no, no, no, seriously, seriously,

(31:35):
you know that you won the vax Similian thing. She
says she doesn't know how she plans to spend the money,
but some will be donated and some will go to
the new car she's been wanting, and the rest will
probably be invested. So god, what a levelheaded, incredible young woman.
I was kind of like, yeah, what a sensible what
a sensible gal? Or she knows how to just say
the right things. She's like, yeah, donated to my baller

(31:57):
fund and then the wrest will go to my new
asthma sick as Mercedes. I'm gonna pull up in. But yeah,
she won, and now many other states have realized, yes,
the thing that America does in American culture, like we
incentivize shit to get people to do things. That's like
how everything's built. Really, what do I get? Yeah? What
do I get? So because of that, California is gonna

(32:18):
be doing something where they're we've got like over a
hundred and sixteen million for certain incentives. I don't know
what that's going to turn out to be. There's the
governor of West Virginia. He did a thing with like
his little dog, who's like this bulldog, and he's like,
look at, look at little baby dog. How are you
gonna say no to my dog? And it's just like this,
look at And they're doing things they know how to incentivice,

(32:41):
ship over their cash prizes, college scholarships, intend pickup trucks. Okay,
so everybody's got their version. Now. I feel like that's
I mean, there's a bleak way of looking at it.
But it's also like, I don't know, I mean, we
we should have been paid to fucking stay home last year.
I feel like a lot of the reason that people
are so like would would be down to get vaccinated

(33:02):
for a chance at a million dollars is because of
all these other failures. So I don't know, I'm like, yeah, sure,
like whatever vaccine lottery, let's go do what you gotta.
I mean, look as the numbers stall out and they're like,
there's you know, who knows what else is going to
come around the bend in terms of variances and things
like that, that like, we want to be able to
get some semblance of normalcy back. Obviously never the same,

(33:25):
but sometimes like well, no one's been incentivized to deal
with the pandemic for well, like by the government at least,
I don't know exactly, because if everything was hey, we
get it. We had to shut businesses down. Therefore, we're
stopping your bills because how the funk could you pay
them if you're not working. We're not animals or months.
Oh wait, no we are. So they're gonna have to

(33:46):
figure it out. You're gonna face a huge bill in
about two years. Good fucking luck. I love the idea
of like one of these like quing on people that's
like no, not no, what you're not getting the back
seeing and then he's like, wait a minute, pickup truck. Okay,

(34:07):
cap me in, I'm getting me a new truck. Forget
everything I said, Because for a lot of people it's
just like a take that you're on the side of
or you're just sort of uninformed. So some people might
feel like, at the end of the day, you're like
my weird like own the lips ideology isn't as great
as my passion for a dodge ram. Yeah, own the lips.

(34:28):
But give me these truck nuts. Yeah, oh god, wait
truck nuts. If you get vaccinated, hold on, Okay, I'll
take the prick shot. But I think you know, it
all depends because some people they want money, some people
want trucks, some people want hugs. But at the end

(34:49):
of the day, what we do know is the anti
vax rout is very angry about this because the legislators
over there have introduced a fucking bill that is like,
dick there, you can't make anyone get a vaccine. You
can't even say the word vaccine. You can't even like
ask someone to get one. Like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa?
What is this? So let me just read the description
the legislation with band vaccine requirements on customers, employees, or

(35:11):
students from business as, hospitals, and nursing homes, k through
twelve schools, colleges, daycares, or others. It would also prevent governments, insurers,
or businesses from offering incentives for people to get vaccinated,
or even requesting that people get vaccinated. Under the bill,
of small business owned by asthmatics or cancer survivors, both
of whom are at higher risk of serious COVID nineteen complications,

(35:31):
would have no legal right to require even requests that
employees or customers who come inside be vaccinated. You know,
people love to if you have a business, aren't thought
you can tell everybody? You could do what you please.
But I guess this is very I guess logic because
sometimes you hear anti vacs people say, well, it's about
personal choice too, but like to then completely vilify the

(35:53):
vaccine that isn't gonna work, That's not that's I don't
I'm not. I'm not sure what that outcome you're looking
for is, aside from just being like stop it. People
are agreeing with this. That logic is so interesting though,
and like I do understand that it's I I know,
I've heard a lot of people say that it's about
the idea of being forced in the loss of freedom,

(36:16):
But I mean, like, what about like all of those
vaccines that we all had to get to go to
school when we were three or four, Like what about
those you know, Well, I never had them and I
never take flu shots and I never get sick. So
because that's the other ideology too, which is main character syndrome,
where you think every single person has the same immune
system you do. And maybe because you've not met people

(36:38):
who've had complications. We've had guests on this show who
have dealt with COVID complications in the past, like you know, candidly,
and we're like, oh God, that's awful. It's not the
same for anyone, and to have that like singular mindset
is so awful. Meanwhile, there are millions of people dying
all over the world. And if you look at even
just generally, right, I think as Americans, people don't realize

(36:58):
the benefit of the decades of your genetics being like
having an American infrastructure behind it, what that does for
your health outcomes over the years, because it's very clear
in America the people who don't have easy access to healthcare,
especially people of color, their health outcomes are much different
than people who have grown up generationally you know, middle

(37:19):
class or just in just out of poverty. Um. And
to think that that would apply to other places is
like totally absurd and takes for granted, like the process
to which you even become something here. Yeah. And on
top of that, like the dissonance of people saying like, oh,
well I didn't get vaccinated and I never got like
the momps, And it's like, well, yeah, because everyone around

(37:39):
you got fucking vaccinated, Like what are you talking about?
What I thought we had to get those like for school,
like vaccines. Yeah. And there's a thing that always makes
me cry. And I remember Dr Carter. He would always
give me a lollipop that he would I remember this
as a kid. He would take the thing off for

(38:00):
me and then give it to me, and I was like,
I wanted to eat this at home, and now you
give me an unwrapped lollipop And what a loss of
your freedoms? Yeah, and that's why I'm anti VAXX. Yeah.
I just the only reason I got vaccinated so I
can go to the Laker game philosophically though, you know,
y'all know where I stand and for the free truck nuts. Okay,

(38:21):
let's take a quick break and we'll be right back
to talk a little bit more about Cruella and Instagram Okay,
let's uh, we're back. Sorry. I didn't mean to just
say okay, we are back, just like okay, sorry, I'm sorry,

(38:47):
I'm sorry, Sorry for apological the apology apology accepted, sorry
for saying sorry. So you know, in I don't know
if everyone remembers. Remember, there's like the discussion of like,
does should Instagram have likes? Any likes? Are likes poison?
Are they poisoning everyone's minds? And like, what are we
gonna do about it? Well, for the last two years,

(39:08):
Instagram has been doing, I guess a lot of research
and testing to figure out like what the best outcome is.
And it's a little anticlimactic. This is from a post
that they just put out. It says, quote, what we
heard from people and experts was that not seeing light
counts was beneficial for some and annoying to others, particularly
because people use the light counts to get a sense
of what's trending or popular. So we're going to give

(39:29):
you the choice, meaning as a user, if you for you,
it's better to be like yo, I don't give a
funk and I don't Actually I'll be more free if
I can just post and not be tethered to like
this idea of a numerical like count based on what
I've submitted to the earth from my own brain and soul.
You can turn the light counts off, and then for
others if you if you just have to know and

(39:51):
you've got to know what's popular, you can keep them on.
But it turns out like when this is announced, it
was super polarizing, like from people really being like talk
about it. Yeah, I thought I think I would. I
will probably turn it off. I mean I haven't posted
to my grid in like a year or something, but
I probably would do that because I've always just had
I think my relationship social media is like morphed in

(40:13):
a weird way over time where I'm like, let's like,
I feel like we've been hearing rumors about the likes
disappearing for the past five years. I've never seen it happen,
or I don't know if it's something that's still coming,
this mythological thing that would happen. I have now adopted,
probably in my geriatric age, the idea, the very very

(40:39):
clear idea that Instagram and social media is so bad
for our mental health and our hearts and our souls
and you know, after watching that movie The Social Dilemma
that everyonet you know talks about the idea of like
children getting because like kids get Instagram at like ten

(40:59):
in ship now, and you know, they're sort of value
and currency is so visually measured at a tender age
where everyone is so ugly and uncomfortable and like just
feeling so already that way, and to have it just
I don't know, I think it's really sad. It made

(41:20):
me really sad and worried for kids that like even
more than it already is in that developmental stage that
it's like all our value is outsourced and not coming
from insider. So it really worries me deeply. Well, this
is the thing. So there have been in the last
few years a lot of research has gone into this,

(41:42):
like a lot because that again, I think everyone was
on some level being like, yeah, I know, I feel
this doesn't feel good all the time. But it turns
out there was a just at the first thing did
a thirty year study of teenagers and technology to just
sort of see like what this intersection of smartphones, social networks,
and changes in mental health work. And there's another one
too in the New York Times I was just looking

(42:03):
at what the effect is on the you know, mental
health of children when they're interacting with these things, and
they found that there isn't It doesn't move the needle
that much. Like there's a lot more factors that affect
that going into it than the social media itself. Now
they're not saying relax, it's fine. They're like, it's a

(42:24):
it is a spectrum of results, but it's they said,
through their research, very hard to pinpoint like say, oh, yeah,
there's the connection right there, and I think it's because yeah,
I think I just don't think that's true. I think
just I just don't think that's true. And I would
be very curious to see, like for whoever's outcome that

(42:45):
was determined by whose results those were, because it's just
so clear, Like if you just talk to anyone on
earth and say, Okay, how do you feel when you
go on Instagram? And then when you get off do
you feel better having looked at it? No, almost everyone
would say like, no, I don't feel great after, even

(43:06):
if it's very low level, you know what I mean,
there's some so I mean I think that's the truth,
to be honest, that's you you know, what I mean.
I think. I also think there's something to the environment
because poor kids don't have smartphones and their outcomes are
different to like based on what your emotional socio economic

(43:27):
environment is like when you're a kid who has a
lot of an effect on like how you navigate life.
But yeah, I do. But I definitely agree with you
Blair that on some level there is like some slight
debt I don't know, And I think maybe this is
this could be generational or just because when you look
at the world in similar ways that like it does
have an effect from like it did, I feel like
a slight deficit sometimes on like on some level. Well,

(43:51):
it's also always just a thing about even inadvertently without
realizing it, unconsciously work in almost steady, ceaseless state of
consuming instead of being in our own like uh, singular
energy like it's I don't know, I find it. I

(44:11):
find it alarming. Yeah, but I think that's why I
think people have over the years you've especially on this show,
we hear constantly how everyone says social media is overrated
with some connection to it being like it doesn't do it.
I used to be so annoyed when I would see
tweets or like by people like shooting on social media.

(44:33):
I would be like, just get off it then, But
then and now, especially after seeing that that movie, it
really scared me for young girls, and like that two
hundred percent increase in suicides or something like that really
freaked me out. And also I think all those um
filters for faces are really scary for young kids, Like

(44:53):
we're all just morphing into like homogenized like Instagram face.
It's it's scary, I think now that I've bummed out everyone. Yeah,
I I don't really know. I mean, I I agree
with you Blair that, especially with body image stuff, it
is so like pervasive in a way that feels like, well,

(45:15):
there's like how could you possibly deny that, you know
where it's whatever, it's the monkeys pop of Like the
connectivity to the world is so much bigger, but the
ways to like target people younger and younger is bigger.
I don't, I mean, But but then it's like, I
guess for this decision, as far as this Instagram decision goes,

(45:38):
it makes sense to me that you could turn it
on or off. Where I feel for so many of us,
like I'm I'm glad these studies are being done, but
for for so many of us, unfortunately, I think the
damage is kind of done, and like some of us
are going to be able to improve our relationship towards
social media, but like most people who grew up online,

(45:59):
like it just does maybe this is a bummer too,
But it's like, I honestly don't think that my relationship
with social media is going to get much better for
as as long as I have the career that I
do and I like can't not be on it, I
don't see it improving. And so it's like, yeah, it
would be nice to shut off likes every once in
a while, but also it's like I'll probably turn them

(46:21):
back on I it's you know, for I feel like
generationally there's been a lot of damage, and what I
would hope is that there are like options and restrictions
put on social media that can prevent damage like that
for kids who are like growing up online inevitably right now.

(46:44):
And then I feel, yeah, like millennials and gen z,
it's it's like we were kind of raised in the
wild West of social media, and I feel we'll just
continue to see the effects of that as time goes on.
But honestly, like if all of social media changed overnight
in a way that is like, oh, this is gonna
be so much healthier for you, I feel like I
would panic, Like I don't know what I would do.

(47:06):
I like it is, so it's like whatever, you know
you I like, I guess my first social media platform
was like my Space, And I remember like counting comments
on my profile pictures when I was like eleven or
twelve years old, and like that's just how you. That's
and and and it starts with kids younger and younger,
and I don't know there's no easy solution for it

(47:28):
because and I think I think that's what's interesting about
this function is like rather than trying to as a
platform determine what's best, they can just say, look, look, dude,
you can there are options here to like have an
experience the way you want it, or if you get
really turned up on seeing the numbers next to the thing,
then go ahead and knock yourself out. Yeah, to everyone's point,
I think everyone on some level has been examining their

(47:51):
own relationships to social media and like what that does
for their themselves and what that may mean for like
reinforcing a sense of identity or feeling good about what
you do, and then you just figure out what maybe
I don't need it maybe, And I think to your point, Blare,
like we live off of these fucking screens, man, Like
we don't live on Twitter, we don't live on Instagram.

(48:12):
And I know some people do or think that everything
that happens there is their life. But realizing like to
be in your own physical body and like you know,
enjoying that and finding a way to pivot off of that,
I think it's been for me personally a fantastic thing,
you know, like I could ride a bike and ship
deep into trying to dive back into my body. Especially

(48:36):
in Quarantine, I really did renegotiate my entire relationship to
social media, and you know that's always an ongoing process.
But like I think in the beginning of Quarantine, I
took my first two week break in like eight years
or something, and it was like my brain completely just
like like regenerated. It was just like it felt like

(48:57):
it was like gas, like when you come up from underwater.
It was like getting air for the first time. And um,
now what I do is I basically only use it
from my laptop, and I um deleted from my phones,
but the for the during the day and unless I
have to repost something that I am forced to download

(49:19):
the app, but that has been How many times have
you downloaded and deleted? Redounded? Because oh my, I do
it every day. Yeah, I love it. Yeah, you're like, alright,
just one small barrier though, for me to take back
some of my goddamn freedom because I'm always you know,
we do it unconsciously. It's like I realized like half

(49:39):
the time that I'm looking at it, it's just like, um,
some habit. It's not like I consciously thought, you know,
what I'd really like to do right now, have a
look at it Instagram. You know. It was just an
unconscious action. Yeah. It is such like a individual journey
of like navigating like how is this going to be
able to? Like how am I going to have a
life outside of this? And what are I don't know

(50:01):
because I know people who love it and aren't like
based to me, seem completely free of the ills of
social media, and I'm like, huh, how are you are
you lying? They could be lying, Yeah, they could be.
But you know, sometimes you can tell with someone's like
low key like spooky and sad underneath it all. Yeah,
I mean if I wasn't a comedian, I would delete

(50:21):
it today. I would delete it today, babes, I will
be gone, disappeared, you'd never see me again. But you're
more than a comedian player, I wouldn't. That's like I
wouldn't delete. I don't know. I feel like there are
some ways where it's like social media has like fucked
my brain up irrevocably, and then other ways where I'm like,
there are ways that I communicate better through those channels

(50:44):
or like talk to people I feel like more cogently
or like whatever, talk to people you'd never be able
to meet or talk. I don't know. It's so it's
so tricky. And then I also feel like there is
this pressure to like perform having a better relationship with
social media. Then you actually do, like I know that,
like anytime someone's like whatever, posting to Instagram about how

(51:06):
they're not going to be on Instagram as much, and
then I'm just like, I think you're lying, Like I
don't know, it's it's so that's what I think. That's
why it's so fucked up is because it's this way
where you think you can read like people can now
see who you are and derived from that like a truth,
and then your even questions like is this performative? Is
it not? Because? And I think that's sort of like

(51:28):
the thing, the sort of momentum of questioning or inner
monologue that happens and I'm like, oh my god, I
kid like I just wanted to look at a picture
and now I'm like, is this person like well we
I mean the truth is they'll even we like download
ideas of what is acceptable and unacceptable through our mirror neurons,
like that's our first access point in psyche, through our

(51:50):
rentin us. So it's like, I mean, these things do
have a big impact on us with subconsciously without us
even realizing it. Like when I see the this is
just a small example, but when I see women posting
pictures like with their cellulite and stuff, like, I'm like,
that is fucking cool. It seems like a really small thing,

(52:11):
but they're doing it deliberately, and I'm like, oh, that
makes me feel more comfortable with myself. Then when I'm
following only airbrushed models, you know what I mean, or
just I mean, that's just one example of like many, many,
many different facets of it. But it is a weird,
very weird thing because I think that's the version, like

(52:32):
the insidious part is like the manicured version of life
that is unattainable and really not close to reality. And
then people who want to like sort of shift the
paradigm and be like things you need to be more honest,
like rather than fantasy town because it's okay, let's talk
about somebody from the Disney first, someone who I don't know,

(52:54):
I just thought was somebody with a cool haircut and
wild behind the wheel. But Cruela of Ville, the Cruella
film came out over the weekend, and yeah, people seem
to be enjoying it. It's not getting like, you know,
panned or anything, and it's a It's an interesting moment
because I think on some level I was like, oh,
they're doing more origin stories. But you know J M. R.

(53:15):
Writer sort of went down of how this evolution of
Corrolla Deville went down. You're like, oh, yeah, maybe this
humanized version is something useful considering how you know, Disney
has a habit of being like, oh my god, evil
lady or coded gay evil guy, what are we gonna do?
So this keeps an opportunity for them to possibly do something. Now,
I haven't seen the film, but I do we do

(53:37):
know what has happened before. So no spoilers, you don't.
This is a spoiler free discussion of the Cruella film.
So a couple of things popped up to jam was
that first, I think, and this is true for a
lot of kids that like, even though Cruella seems like
what why would people like do? Are people really remembering
Kuella Deville like to be its own character. There's a

(53:57):
thing though that like kids are attracted to the villains
like we like like when you're young, there's something interesting
or you're like, oh, like there's something more energizing when
the villain comes on. They always have the best songs too.
That's true actually straight up, the villain songs are always
the best one. Which who's your favorite villain song? You
also need polarity to make the good guy good. Absolutely,

(54:19):
But it's something I think about, like that sort of
like fuck you sense of power that a super villain
has or something that's like yeah, cool, like I bet
they could eat cookie Crisp out the fucking box without problems.
The second thing interesting and Jamie I know you're loving this.
The director who's directing Cruella, Jamie Mr Gillespie himself the

(54:42):
director of Itonia a k my favorite movie ever. And
uh that's why I was like, damn, I I really
am going to go see Cruella, aren't I? Because I
have to support Mr Aitania's work, And you know, it
seems like this could be a it's similar story, you

(55:02):
know on some level, like that guy Paul Walter Houser
who played the what's his name, Sean what's his name
in Ionia? He's he plays one of the goons in Cruella. Okay,
there's the Ionia universe is really at play in cruel Yeah. Well,
I'm excited for this movie. I can't wait to see it. Blair,

(55:23):
What did you did you like Cruella de Villa as
it like when the animated the animation or the animated
version came out. Yeah? I loved it. I mean I
loved all those Disney movies. I was actually just like
remarking about this the other day on how actually like
dark and sinister. A lot of those like murderous plot
lines where like when you think of Bambi, you're like,

(55:45):
holy sh it, it's just like the heaviest plot line
to point in the psyche of a child like you
could ever see. But I I also I'm like, yeah,
these are badass stories. I like ulla Honestly, I'm not lying.
I saw a bandy fucking once. Okay, we had that

(56:05):
VHS and that soft ass case you know back in
the day, and the Disney movies all came in that
padded case because I guess likes and I remember yo,
the second the Mango capt I was in tears, shattered
and like I made my mom turn it off and
that was it. I couldn't even go past that. I
was like, I'm off this mom. I think for the

(56:27):
I think for a lot of children, like especially our generation,
that was that moment was the first moment of realizing
like parental mortality that in The Lion King. Yeah, we're like, yeah,
for sure, The Lion King was there's my friends who
have kids, like I heard. I was like catching up

(56:48):
with with friends from home the other day and they
were like trying talking about like, oh, when are you
going to be comfortable showing your kid The Lion King?
Because of like the whole move Faucel thing where I
was like Oh, my parents didn't think and twice they're
just like life is short, watch it now. But I
used costumes from roller rinks, right right? So I think

(57:09):
I turned out fine. I think so, I mean, did
you stop at the moment you saw it? Because I
think there's version I. For whatever reason, the Bamby thing,
I could not go on as I just could not
go on. But I think maybe because Bamby was my
first Disney based trauma. When I saw a lion king,
I was a little bit older and had already like
had like family members passed away and had dealt with

(57:30):
something that I was like, that's sad, but I didn't
maybe it didn't hit me as hard. The other thing
is this whole thing with Corella Deville. It's a derivative
work from a book that was written by Dodie Smith.
A Hunter one Dalmatians. Oh, and I for the record,
I love the animated series. I I My first dog
was a Dalmatian that we bought in Simar. That was like,

(57:50):
these dogs are so inbred. But that was like that.
I remember my dad saying that, And I learned what
inbreeding was at six years old because my dad he's
like and I'm like what, He's like, they're inbred. And
I'm like, what does that mean. He's like, it means
the brothers and the sisters or the mom they all
have to have sex to make the new ones, to
keep the dogs looking that way. And let's bring our

(58:13):
dog home. And now I'm a guy who hosts a
podcast and talks about used costumes. FM roller ranks. In
my opinion, honestly, I want to give you a like
a kudos, thank you, thank you, thank you. So this
book by Dodie Smith. You know, it's been argued that Smith,
who herself had no children and it was a successful author,

(58:36):
she had adopt a male pseudonym just to get in
the business, which I've never heard of. This what someone
faking it to get in. I've never heard of this.
So she had to use a pseudonym get in and
then made Cruella essentially a satire of male paranoia that
there could be this independent, wealthy, rebellious woman with no
children and therefore must be pure evil, and was sort

(59:00):
of like the wink of that character. But you know,
the epic Bros of nineteen fifty six, we're not as
clear on getting that nuance because once Disney bought the
I P and gave it over to a group of
guys who like they called like the Nine Old Men,
Like not even a joke, like that's what this group
was called. That turned the character completely like on its

(59:23):
head and made it something completely different and just being like, oh,
she's an evil woman and she's wacky and rich. So
oh no, kids, you've seen this. Yeah, just like any
I mean, that's like Disney's full of like villains that
are like women over forty that like are not mothers
that have just stopped breastfeeding moments before the scene. Like

(59:43):
it's so yeah. It is like in the same thing
happened in the nineties six remake Glenn Close, Right, isn't that?
Isn't that the ninety was that ninety Yeah, that was
nineties six. I rewatched that movie not too long ago.
It's bizarre, but Glenn Close is really good. It sounds
like because in this one it wasn't about being like

(01:00:03):
a wealthy, independent woman who had no children. This version was, oh,
successful women are fucking dangerous suddenly. Relativeville is like this
fashion executive and right, it makes like evil like these
speeches that are about quote the talent killing dulness of
marriage and child rearing. Oh wow, that's a little on

(01:00:25):
the fucking nose bone. And then even the reviews are like,
we're calling the film out is quote for it's pretty
retrogressive tone where everyone's like what is what? What happened
to this thing? And then there's like the other thing,
the road rage. You know, I think a lot of
people think remember from the film or the animated version

(01:00:46):
when she's driving around that like dope OUs hot rod
and ship and she's got like the demonic face and
all this ship going on. So that was the other thing,
a huge thing that a lot of people like. This
is um, I think this speels like if it's the
Nine Old Men. Perhaps this has something to do with
the anti suffragette movement, where you know, essentially for women

(01:01:06):
looking for who are trying to have the right to vote.
The arguments were like like after the fact, like these people,
these women want to have the right to vote and
all this only they're The whole idea of women driving
cars was like a political symbol could even drive. It's like, oh,
these brods are hysterical, look at them, Look at him

(01:01:26):
to get behind the wheel. It's wacky. You see what
happens when a woman is mobile. I remember it's so
funny because both the Henchman Goon guys and her. I
recall so deeply feeling so much anxiety when both of
them were in the driving scenes because they're like semi

(01:01:48):
flying out of the cars the entire time in the cars,
like going like that in all the scenes. It was
just chaos. I mean, Laurie is one of the guys too,
in the nineties one. He's like one of the what's
from a call it the Bad the Bad Guys? Right, Oh,
this is an all star cast. Um. So yeah, I mean,

(01:02:11):
like looking at all this now, I haven't seen it,
and I'm definitely down to see it because I remember
even seeing the trailer when it came. I was like, what,
it's kind of like hot topic late adds like aesthetic,
but I was I was down with that then and
I'm down with it now. So stripe Pants, you were, Yeah,
it's like, oh, this is a little bit Jack Skellington.

(01:02:32):
It's like, oh, dude, like dual tone and then it's
like all the merch from this movie is says like
one hundred percent devil like ship like that. I kind
of missed that era of graphic design. They're trying to
bring it back. Hell yeah, so you know, we'll see
what happens. Uh for people have seen it, you know,
let us know your thoughts. We've we've heard mixed things,

(01:02:52):
but I'm curious to see what they how they treat
this character and the depiction of Cruela. It's time around,
so I think of you all right, we'll see though,
we'll see see these more reasons to go that. That's
another thing I want to do. Go to a movie soon?
He too. I haven't gone. And also I'm excited to
see m A. Stone and I think she's really talented.
And I recently watched Crazy Stupid Love, which happens to

(01:03:14):
be one of the movies besides Forgetting Sarah Marshall that
I have seen the most times, because they just used
to like play it over and over. Were you on
Tami when we were talking about that, like recently about No,
we we just did a Bechtel cost episode of Yeah,
I think handed they always just talk about that scene
or he's like, dude, don't sip from the straw like

(01:03:35):
it looks like you're what do you say, like you're
sucking on a tiny pecker or something when he's making
it all homophobic to use a straw and a cocktail. Yeah, fellas,
is it good to use a straw? Like? All right? Well, Blair,
thank you so much for joining us and coming through
with again your energy or wonderful sensibility and perspective. Where

(01:03:58):
can people find you and follow you? Supports you? My
good maas, how do you my best friend, my best
looking bro dog? Okay, well you can support me if
um you also want to be my friend on my

(01:04:19):
social media, which, as I have told you, I am
a huge fan of and it's at Blair Saki B
L A I R S O C C I And
that's on Twitter and Instagram. And then the other thing
that I want to tell you guys about my zy
gang that I love. I will be hosting another virtual
breathwork event on um June twenty two, and I've done

(01:04:43):
two of them before and they've been really cool. So
if you want to have a bodacious time and lose
your mind, get your ticket and my LinkedIn bio. There
it is. And is there anything from your social media
that you would like to shout out as something that
gave you a pleasant reaction? That you would like to
share with the list. Oh sure, yeah, you know, I

(01:05:04):
brought a tweet for you. This is from my my
friend Amy Miller, hilarious comedian and you know, simple but
made me laugh. She so she wrote a lady at
Target that just looked at me, pointed to her full car,
and went, I don't need any of this ship. Some
days you meet an icon. I yo, no joke. I
called that tweet out yesterday because I love this. Oh

(01:05:27):
my god, we love Amy. That ship just makes me
laugh so hard because I just love just just that
person too. So we all recognize ourselves. Yeah, I don't
need any of this ship. And you're like, I don't
know why you're telling me that, but yeah, alright cool,
Like at okay, Jamie, how about you thank you so

(01:05:49):
much for you know, being around and co hosting and
helping right this ship. Hey, listen, I'm glad. I'm gonna
let Jack out of my freezer in a minute. Really
really nice to trap him in my freezer for the
last couple of hours. I hope he had a good break.
Yeah you can. I'm all the regular places on Instagram

(01:06:12):
and Twitter being very unhealthy. Probably, uh, you can listen
to the Bechtel Cast every week. I have a new
podcast about Kathy Comics coming out at the end of
June that is I don't know. Yeah, I'm finishing it
and it's been harder to do than I thought. There's
a lot going on with the Kathy Comics. It's gonna

(01:06:33):
be a can't miss series. Like everything you do, and
we can prop we prop our lonely butts up by
having you on the Jamie coming through and Blair can
just cover from my biocrity. Please. I'm so this is
such a good crew today. I'm so happy that we
all got to like hang out and talk. Yeah, I know,

(01:06:53):
it was so great to see you guys. You know,
I love you both so much and admire you and
your work and what you bring to the world in
your spirits. Oh you know what, we might have to
all link up for a movie. Hell yeah, let's all
go see Cruella. Yeah, oh man, that would be dope. Actually, yeah,
we'll put a pin in that, because you know, the
thing is, you want to go like I I when

(01:07:14):
I go, I wanted to be with you know, like
people who are sort of on a seem like, yeah,
we're doing this for the first time too. So you
got a city walk, get a hot dog movie, me
straight to my North Hollywood heart. You know we're going
to city walk. You know we're going. Do you walk? Donut?
Little stale? My body responded to the idea of going

(01:07:38):
to city walk with friends. I was like, I know
what's wild? You know what's tell the look l as
I gang. You know, maybe there'll be an epic thing,
like a crowd of twenty people? Is that city walk
Bay It's a movement. And also, Jamie, is there a
tweet that you like something you can call out for us?
I was going to shout out a moon a Myer
treat she's at muna m u n a underscore meyer

(01:08:03):
Uh tweet is you're gonna love the Friends Reunion if
you enjoy watching people in their fifties struggle to remember
stuff that happened in their twenties for two hours straight,
which was I had I had The Friends Reunion on
in the background yesterday, and that was kind of the
gist of it. It was just like a bunch of Yeah.
It was just the friends being like, hey, do you
remember this? And then the other person is like, no,

(01:08:25):
but I believe you asked just kind of the whole thing.
What the fuck? Well, Hey, I'm I'm sure like if
you're a hardcore fan like things, I'm really into like
merely just seeing the people together say words. I'm like, oh,
I like, yeah, reunion special vibes are are fun. But
what it's been but it's been like twenty years. They're like,

(01:08:45):
I don't really remember that, but it's nice to see you.
Some tweets that I'm liking. It's it's really just one
and I just thought it was really fun funny, but
it's really it's it's a very again. This joke is
literally a Venn diagram, and it's only going to make
sense to this Venn diagram of people, which is you've
seen the Sopranos and you know, and you've listened to

(01:09:06):
the Olivia Rodrico album. Um, but it's a Venn diagram
with Livia Soprano on one side and Olivia Rodrigo on
the other, and Olivia Soprano is Tony's mother who is
a very miserable character. And then the the overlap of
the Venn diagram says, well, good for you, you look
happy and healthy, not me. If you ever care to ask,

(01:09:27):
good for you. You're doing great out there without me,
like a damn sociopath. And it's just this image of
Olivia in her bed and you can just see it anyway. Wonderful,
wonderful content. You can find me at Miles Gray on
Twitter and Instagram. Also the other podcast for twenty Day Fiance,
uh and you can find that on twitch dot tv

(01:09:47):
slash Fiance and uh yeah, Daily Zeitgeist find us on
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is where we will all sorry, linked off to the

(01:10:07):
song that we will rod add on and our believe Um,
let me just get it heat, sorry. One Seeking should
just be a driver's license for like three weeks in
a row, just on a loop to it until you
listen to it. This is actually a great album from

(01:10:28):
a wonderful combination of musicians. Here. Now, if if you're
not into you know, the sixties seventies jazz thing, you
might not know about Lonnie Smith, George Benson, Ron Carter,
Joe Lovano, but this is an album called Acrodesia, and
this track is called apex Um and it's just you know,
great easy listening. Just to play break it up a
little bit. I've been playing a lot of remixes, so
I want to play something old and like with human beings,

(01:10:50):
blowing wind through instruments U and playing instruments as well.
So we'll go out on that, come back in a
little bit for trends, and then we'll see you later.
Have a great day, be some blest things and we'll
talk to you then. Bye bye bye m

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