November 21, 2024 • 28 mins
In this edition of AuTrendticity, Jack and Miles discuss Matt Gaetz withdrawing his candidacy to be attorney general, Netflix getting sued over their glitchy Tyson/Paul bout, the power of Trump's "authenticity", 'Wickadiator 2' box office predictions, Ellen leaving the U.S. for reasons no one even remotely cares about and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of Authrenticity.
The new Russell Crowe Denzel Washington movie.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I don't know what.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
What was that movie with them multiple now Virtuosity was
six point seven? What a film? Those like early movies
where they just had kind of heard of computers and
still we're figuring it out. Are he could.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Generate his body by touching glass? I remember that was
the thing. And that's pretty deep, and that's pretty cool.
And there what they were at an early UFC fight.
That was the other thing I remember there. There's like
a like the climactic scene like revolves around them.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
They got a lot of the future, right, Yeah, they
did know that you mentioned it. I remember there was
one of the I remember there's one of those where
they keep talking about like Jack me in, I gotta
get jacked into the the mainframe. That just always cracks
me up. Uh. Anyways, we're gonna talk about authenticity in
a moment. I'm Jack. That's Miles. This is an episode
(01:04):
where we just tell you some of the stuff that's
trending this afternoon, Thursday, November twenty First, but first, Matt
Gates guilty as hell. Huh. I guess is what we
want to.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Tell Yeah, pour a bottle of piss out for this one,
another one or the first. This is I guess technically
the first Trump l so far of this future administration,
the utah at Gates.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
To withdraw one of these nominees at a time when
absolutely nobody can tell him shit, Like he just spent
a whole year just being like, I don't give a
fuck what anyone tells me. I'm going to keep doubling
and tripling down. And he believes he's right about everything
(01:52):
that has every he could possibly do, Like there's no
scenario in his mind where he does something wrong now
or in the future. Absolutely for Matt Gates to like,
the evidence on this motherfucker must be so damning. I
mean it to be, like, all right, except for that one.
I was bad, my bad on that one.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
It was damning the second you heard it and you
knew there was evidence of all of it. They're like,
we have payments, we have witnesses. They're talking about trafficking minors,
statutory rape. That's all there. I think for me, I think,
you know, the biggest thing was when he resigned to say, like, oh,
I'm actually doing that because I'm going to be nominated
(02:34):
to be, you know, attorney general. The thing that his
resignation did was effectively end the jurisdiction the House Ethics
Committee had over him in terms of investigating this behavior,
this misconduct, these crimes. So by doing that, he basically
made that investigation toothless. And then there was this whole
thing about, well, well they release the report. There was enough
(02:56):
pressure that apparently they're like, yeah, we're not going to
release the report. And now I just don't think this
is the end of Matt Gates. I mean, there's already
talk of him replacing Marco Rubio as a senator, so
it could just be this, like, you know, they were
looking one move to sort of stop the ethics report
coming out, but then he gets to hop on Marco
Rubio's Senate seat and he still gets to be a
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basically of just a firebrand in the Senate to do Trump.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
One way or another, We're getting this pedophile in a
position of power.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Yeah, yeah, either way, either way is what that looks like.
And so yeah, I think it was the evidence. I
think also just generally because some people were.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Like is he doing it?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Like people were speculating like is Trump doing this just
to humiliate Matt Gates during the confirmation because Democrats do
get to ask questions unless he went for like the
recess appointment thing, which sounds like some Republicans in the
House are pushing back on that idea. So this is
the one thing is that, like, although Trump does have
control over the Republican Party and people are bowing to him,
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there's still other elements that are trying to do something
slightly different. So it's at the moment slowing things down
a little bit. But all that to say, Pete Hegseth
is still in the running to be a Secretary of Defense,
even though the police report around the like the rape
allegations are have surfaced and it's terrible, and yeah, he's
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now like he was caught I think a Capitol Hill
people ask him like, hey, what the fuck is this man?
Like we're seeing hearing a lot about this, and the
police report was released, he said, quote as far as
the media is concerned, it's very simple. The matter was
fully investigated and I was completely cleared. And that's where
I'm going to leave it.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
But that's not true nor yes exactly, so I think, yeah,
sure there were no charges were filed, but there's still
a police report that's out.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
So as far as the media is concerned, No, we're
talking about this very this police report right here that
details all the sex crime is that you committed as
far as.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Well, what about reality, as far as reality.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Is concerned, Yeah, why don't you ask CNN anytime I
do something wrong, I'm just gonna blame blame the media
because they do suck in a lot of ways. And
so yeah, uh yeah. I mean he has control over
the government and the Republican Party and a lot of
people who are preemptively just being like I don't want
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to be in trouble with the fascists. But he doesn't
have control over the fabric of reality. And I think
that's going to come in a surprise to him and
some of his supporters.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
He's like, I've just nominated Sid six point seven to
be the arbiter of accepted reality. You might remember him
as the bad guy from Virtuosity.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
That's right, and we all do, and I did even
before we just had that conversation four minutes ago. Netflix
is being sued over the Glitchy Tyson Paul fight. I
always love a good lawsuit. That's like this thing that
was inconvenient happened to me, and I am seeking damages
of at least fifty million dollars.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Wait, wait, someone's suing because he was glitchy.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
The shit was glitchy, dude, I love that.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Yeah, we're so litigious for the worst reasons. I was
so glitchy, man. Fifty million, Yeah, fifty million.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
I don't know if that's like if they're seeking class
action damages fifty million dollars, yeah, so across they want
to get sifty yo, I had fifty I was going
to the casino on that night, and I would have
made fifty million dollars. But yeah, I get I guess
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their idea is that a lot of people were inconvenienced
by the glitchy ass presentation, and I respect it.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
I bet this dude bet on Tyson to win lost
a bet, and now we're just trying to recoup his
money somehow by being.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Like, if it hadn't been glitch g then maybe he
would have won, just as a very bad understanding of how.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
But the fight still happened and the result remains. I
don't know, man, who knows.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Legs look shaky because the feed was shaky.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Yeah, Schrodinger's boxing match.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Uh. And then authenticity, just the this idea. I just
want to keep talking about it because it feels like
it's going to be the big thing. It's It's my
takeaway from like this past election is it was the
determining factor in many ways. Like it's the one thing
that people seem to believe Trump has is like he
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has this appearance of authenticity, not because he has any
deeply held, authentic human beliefs about what he can do
and like how to benefit people. But he's the most
willing to say fuck you to the mainstream media.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
And not for reasons, just saying fuck you for describing
what I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
He will keep saying it, and he will say it
even louder if as they point out him being wrong.
I do think it's really the only unique thing about
him as a politician, his willingness to say whatever benefits him,
regardless of what the media what, Like the you know,
Democratic Party establishment and you know, in twenty sixteen, the
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Republican Party establishment said he would he was just had
an unshakeable belief in himself and the way he saw
things that was fueled by pathological narcissism. But it ended
up working out for him. And I think, on the
other hand, like the Democratic Party seems to have the
opposite of this. They seem to be worried about what
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the mainstream media will say about them at all times.
Kamala Harris changed her positions, went to the right in
a bunch of ways that felt completely out of line
with what we knew of her from before. But I
think also like just remember, I think we've also lost
sight of like who the most unpopular politician in the
presidential election was. It actually wasn't Kamala Harris. It was JD. Vance,
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And like he was the person who is the most opportunistic,
position changing, inauthentic, sellout piece of shit that like that
that is just the one thing that everybody knew about
him from the start, is he a few years ago
was calling Trump hitler and then became you know, a
(09:30):
sniveling boot thrower, and people despised him. And I just
I don't think people are wrong to value this necessarily
because like we were talking about, like with the the
idea of people having like an allergic reaction to these
like super complex bureaucratic solutions that are like neoliberalism does
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hide behind complexity, and it does end up fucking you
over in a lot of ways, like whether it be
you know, health insurance or you know, government programs that
end up you know, getting taken over by corporations. And
I think like authenticity, like we exist in a world where,
like from our youngest days, we are being sent manipulative
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messages via marketing that like are trying to control you
and dissuade you. And I think it's like one of
the ways that people are very sophisticated now, and politicians
and like big mainstream political parties just still seem to
be like a generation behind. They're like talking to people
(10:35):
who aren't aware that that is happening, right, And yeah,
I mean I think it's fucking them.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
A lot of the DNC ideas feel like they came
from like your divorced sixty year old uncle who like
just realized you can wear a hat backwards and yeah, hey,
you know it'll be cool.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Exactly we just saw you walk in with the fanny pack,
take it off and turn your hat around backwards, and
turn the chair around backwards. Like we saw that. You
can't make us not see that. But I just I'm
raising it now because like you talked about, like the
way that the Democratic Party is responding to the election is, guys,
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we need to shift to the right. You need to
keep changing our position, keep adopting new positions now that
you know, throw everybody under the bus. Like that is
the hardening consensus around what this election is. And like
I I don't really feel any panic about it because
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I didn't think that the mainstream Democratic Party or the
mainstream media was going to be the solution. I just
but we need to like recognize that's what it's going
to be. It's not coming whatever is next is not
coming from the mainstream media. It's not coming from the
Democratic Party. It's going to be something that they make
fun of, and that thing needs to target them and
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like have that be a part of what they're saying
from the start. They have to like have five, you know,
very specific messages and one of them needs to be
fuck the mainstream media and the you know, Biden administration.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Yeah, or or not just doing it like in the
sort of maga way of like fuck the mainstream media
is like you talk about the corporate capture of media, Yeah,
how it doesn't serve you to actually talk But again,
depending on you know what level of DNC strategist you're
talking about, Like, no, dude, maybe it is good to
like adopt that language.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I think.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
You know, we're currently just experiencing an omni crisis in
the United States. So it's the it's the authenticity, it's
the misogyny, it's the racism. All of these things are
sort of coming together to create a fucking ball rog
of disaster, political disaster that you know, the Democrats had
to face off with. But yeah, I think the thing though,
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truly like which the reason it's trending to this idea
of authenticity. There's a Pew Research study that came out
this week that was just talking about how like percent
of American adults are like they're not getting it from
the main stream media at all, Like they're getting their
news from quote news influencers or what the study defines
as a person who consistently posts news related content with
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more than one hundred thousand followers on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok x,
or YouTube. That's there again, this is more than fifty
million people getting their news base sweat. When Pugh asked
adults from the age of eighteen twenty nine, that number
increases to thirty seven percent. So this is like a
this is again part of the shifting media diet of
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like that people are consuming. And we also this is
why we're hearing so much now too, because clearly the
right has an advantage in this department of their own
like talk a sphere, blogger sphere, influencers, spheres of influences,
and the Democrats are constant like what are we what
are we gonna do? Like we need our own Joe Rogan.
That doesn't mean they need to be pumping more money
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into like Podsay of America or things like that, although
that's probably exactly what they're thinking, because these people have
been stallwarts for the establishment Democratic Party. But there's this
in this Wired article, they spoke with this woman Emelia Montooth,
who's like a creator progressive creator, and this was her
takes you said quote what the right does really well
is having a funnel that I believe starts with barstool
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sports that reaches mass audiences. The left is missing the
top and middle of these funnels. Rather than working with
individual influencers, they should focus on building that piece of
the ecosystem, that funnel. Because it is true, like it's
if you're not. Most people are not explicitly looking for
political content like on the Internet. They want entertainment. So
if they're if they're even trying to replicate that, I
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don't know. I mean, like, you already have huge funnels
for content. Now are they gonna start platforming people that
are more I don't know. It's just hard to kind
of figure out. But I do see that part of
the puzzle of like you capture people with a larger
sort of you know, again just general sort of entertainment,
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and then from there they begin to infuse a lot
of like political talkers or things, platform them and normalize
them via that route. But I just don't think like
most of the people.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Like there's The Ringer, right, that's a very popular sports network,
like probably comparable to barstool, maybe not as big as barstool,
but it's big and popular and influential, But it has
like no political stance because it's just sort of a
mainstream media aligned you know, like it's just probably center left.
(15:30):
I actually don't know what the politics of the people
involved in the ring are, but like, I don't think
there's any there there in the same way that they're
you know, whereas like barstool, I guess it just feels
like it's like a lot of the answers that are
coming from people are like okay, and then we need
a forty slide power point to explain like the many
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different steps of addressing this. And it's just like it
because like nobody everybody has just been like, well, the
Democrats like are kind of the standard, and like as
a mainstream media institution, we just like kind of trickle
down to that, and people have rejected that because they've
rejected like this neoliberal order, and so I don't know,
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there's like a lot of like I think people are
going to try to make the Joe Rogan of the
left and it's just going to be the same thing
we've already had, which.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
There's a lot of yeah, right, I think again, the
Joe Rogan of the left avoids the are the policies
the problem.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (16:33):
That's really I think what we're getting at in the
end is that while that can help and you can
maybe try and like balance the scales in terms of
like the number of visitors consumers of this content to
sort of like lean more to the left, the bigger
issue is that the policies and if if that's not
the first point of interrogation and any kind of post
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mortem on this election, it's going to be an absolute failure.
But again, I think that's why there is so much
emphasis on talking about like it, this is it, this
is this, rather than are are we like completely fucking
ourselves over because we are unwilling to grapple these problems
that are being caused by our biggest donors, right, and
we are so locked in with them that we've been
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rendered inert in terms of addressing those problems because we're
just kind of we like to we like to pick
a part at the margins. Yeah, it's tough, but yeah,
I think again, like the point about authenticity, it's the
same thing of like are you being consistent with who
you think is vulnerable and who are you're protecting? Because
if that's sliding all over the place, that's hard to
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be taken seriously, right, But.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
It's nobody has really tried this. That's that's the thing
to you, Like nobody is currently like in the last election,
like they're going to tell you, well, the Democrats tried
to like be progressive and it failed. They they didn't
and also, like if the best tool that you can
have when it comes to like being authentic is like
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actually having the truth and like kindness on your side.
And no, no mainstream party has tried that.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Yeah, because what you're not going to hear fucking Rachel
Maddow get out there and really talk about how, you know,
certain lobbying interests are the reason why the Democratic Party
is unable to really pursue these policies that would you know,
help a plurality of American people. It's not gonna happen,
although she did. We just did find out she's willing.
She's taking, she said, a five million dollar pay cut
(18:29):
because christ MSNBC is in such dire straits right now,
is she so?
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Yeah, I don't know, man, I mean five union pay cut.
What is she going to make she getion dollars?
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Oh no, no, no, okay, So she went from thirty
million to twenty five million, Okay, okay, okay, worth it, guys.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
MSNBC. I'm here, I'll brough.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
I'll do it for fucking I'll do it for one million,
but I won't say that shit that you know, I'll
get kicked off pretty quickly, but it'll be fun.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
We'll have a good run. We'll have a nice run.
Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back, and
we're back. We're back, all right. Glicked is currently tracking
for a combined North American debut in the one hundred
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and sixty five million dollar range. That is the Gladiator
to Wicked box office debuts coming this weekend that we
talked about that I think should be Wikadiator or Wadiator or.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Just Wicked too.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Yeah, Wicked too make it make confusing as fuck, Wicked time,
but yeah, I don't know it. So I think that's
about the range that people were thinking for Barbenheimer and
it both of those overperformed. Seemed like it seems like
Wicked did extremely well with critic they they're giving it
(20:01):
like really good reviews, and Gladiator Too is like you
know standard Ridley Scott over the past decade or two,
where you know, we'll see it seems like a lot
of fun.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Yeah, because what Barbara did one f five and Oppenheimer
did eighty opening so they did two thirty five opening
weekend and then it kind of just kept going.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
So but I think the forecast heading in was around like, yeah,
Barbie could do about a million and Oppenheimer could do
like sixty five cool cool cool, and they both overperformed.
So we'll see. Don't sleep on baby Ratu, which is
baby girl and Nasfaratu both dropping on Christmas. Baby Ratu
(20:53):
is so baby, that's more fun to say, Yeah baby, right,
baby girl. Yeah, it's funny. Like the article that the
AP News did an article it was like glicked Barbenheimer,
like is it going to be the new Barbenheimer? And
like the first two paragraphs are just taken up by
people being like, we actually think clicked is the better
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way over Wickadiator. Yeah, they recognize that their name sucks. Shit,
They're like, we just need to like get on board
with glicked and move on because having five different names
is not helpful for the movement. This is like a cause.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
This is like the Democrats know, obsessing Overdiers. They're like, clicked, dude,
it's so much bigger than this Wickiator Gladiator glad Wick
and even the eyebrow raising glad dicked glad dicked glad
one's kind of fun.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Glat yeah, gladykus Yeah whatever.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
I know not of wicked enough to for that to
interest me, but I do know about running my fingers
through you know, fields of wheat and hearing your vaguely
ethnic vocals. I don't know if I may have a
moment to see it, like do a solo movie thing,
because I know her majesty is, she's like miss me
(22:15):
with the fucking Gladiator ship.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Really so my wife is on board for the Gladiator
like I want to see that. I really do. Think
it's because of Paul the Skull.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, her magic is like Paul, Okay, Paul, Paul.
And isn't that mess call like a drink? No, but
like that's a that's disqualified to you.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Yeah, but anyways, Uh, but we are traveling this weekend,
so I don't know if I'll probably end up seeing
it over Thanksgiving, but we Thanksgiving Day, Thanksgiving Day.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Baby, Have you ever seen a movie on Thanksgiving Day?
Speaker 1 (22:56):
I think so. We usually go see movies when we're.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
For the Smith's Day movie.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
We always do Christmas Day movies for sure.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
At the theater. At the theater.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Yeah, yeah, I always in the theater. Yeah, We're we're big.
We're a big movie going family.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
I've never seen a movie on Christmas Day, I think
because like at the time, as a kid, all I
wanted to do is just play whatever video like the
one video game I got for the year, and be like, yeah,
you do whatever fuck you want, Like I'm gonna like
have my eyes roll back in front of team for
eight hours. Maybe I'll try that this year.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
You didn't even go see Titanic.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
That shit didn't That shit came out before Christmas? Though,
yeah it did, so I saw it before. I saw
it before like I saw I'm pretty sure I saw
a Titanic opening weekend.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Did you see Avatar in theaters on I did see.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Habitat, but I saw the first Avatar in.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Tokyo actually, oh shit, which may have probably my fondest
Christmas Day movie going experience. Yeah. Oh, you know, it's
so wild.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Every time I've been in Japan for Christmas, I've gone
to see a movie almost like I saw the the
episode seven uh Star Wars when that came out Force Awakens.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
I saw that.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
I think that was on Christmas Day in Japan, and
then I saw Avatar. Now I think it's a daft anyway,
not in America, and that's the only one that counts.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
We live in America, all right. Hey, A fond farewell
to people who no longer live in America. I'm degenerous
and Portia de Rossi are leaving the US and saying
we're not coming back. Fuck you guys for electing Trump.
I you know, Ellen a true hero. I just we
(24:34):
haven't really brought Ellen up in a while because they
get emotional talking about what.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
She Everyone was really terrible to her when she.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Went through yet, so she just had a stand up
special that is basically that that is the tone.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
It's called for your approval, which is very like, okay,
here we go, here you go.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
I hope you're happy. The premise is like, this woman
has been wronged more than anybody, and just to refresh,
she was canceled for doing like cruel and sadistic things
to people who worked for her, such as like hiding
(25:20):
toothpicks around her house and seeing if the cleaning lady
would find them and if not, they're fired, like just
like setting little traps for the people who work for
them to uh like kind out.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
And then also any person who has worked on the
Ellen DeGeneres show, just anecdotally in LA you meet people,
they will always be like, there's the worst fucking thing
I've ever had. And that's when it all came out
because first it was the people who worked on the
Ellen Show being like this workplace is talk seek, and
then the pylon began like, oh, y'all don't know about
the toothpick hiding, and you're like, what it was hiding?
Speaker 1 (25:56):
It was just a thing you heard around La the
entire time I lived here, you know, from like early
two thousand and tens, was that like, oh, the worst
boss in La, you know. And so I just want
to talk about the special, though I was only able
to make it a minute and a half in. She
(26:16):
opens the thing with with like a montage of like
people attacking Ellen degenerous, and she comes out and she
gets a standing oh like she was Malala Man. She
is like, they are just well, yeah, they're you.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Know, her place in television history. I think that's like
in terms of coming out on national television, out on
nation like a seminal moment.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
I think.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
But the vibe of this special was sort of like
using the goodwill of her, you know, taking you know,
being open with the world and who she is on
Ellen to then be like and because of that, ignore
all the other terrible things I have done after that,
and I am actually a martyr because I got through
maybe the first ten minutes, and when I realized, I'm like, oh,
(27:11):
this is just a hay geography of like Ellen DeGeneres
in the form of a stand up thing. I was like,
I get it. Your ego couldn't handle it. You get
to be the only voice on a stage and just
kind of like tell your side of things and whatever. Said,
I was kicked out of show business. Dude, you have
so much like you live in Montecito.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Okay, well, I guess not anymore.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
The Monasito estates, so you are no longer in the
same neighborhood as well.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Now she lives in a castle next to the Crema. Okay, next,
hope you're hand for Erica.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Yeah, also does Porsona ROSSI also suck too, or she's
just catching strays because.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
She's yeah, I got nothing, no problem with hey, portion
might be faint with you, okay. Great? Great performances in
Arrested Development.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Oh yeah, and al who could forget out of mcfiel
she first hit the stage.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
All right, those are some of the things that are
trending on this Thursday, November twenty. First, we are back
tomorrow with the whole last episode of the show. Until then,
be kind to each other, be kind to yourselves, get
the vaccine, get your blue shots, don't do nothing about
white supremacy, and we will talk to y'all tomorrow. Bye bye,
Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of Authrenticity.
The new Russell Crowe Denzel Washington movie.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I don't know what.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
What was that movie with them multiple now Virtuosity was
six point seven? What a film? Those like early movies
where they just had kind of heard of computers and
still we're figuring it out. Are he could.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Generate his body by touching glass? I remember that was
the thing. And that's pretty deep, and that's pretty cool.
And there what they were at an early UFC fight.
That was the other thing I remember there. There's like
a like the climactic scene like revolves around them.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
They got a lot of the future, right, Yeah, they
did know that you mentioned it. I remember there was
one of the I remember there's one of those where
they keep talking about like Jack me in, I gotta
get jacked into the the mainframe. That just always cracks
me up. Uh. Anyways, we're gonna talk about authenticity in
a moment. I'm Jack. That's Miles. This is an episode
(01:04):
where we just tell you some of the stuff that's
trending this afternoon, Thursday, November twenty First, but first, Matt
Gates guilty as hell. Huh. I guess is what we
want to.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Tell Yeah, pour a bottle of piss out for this one,
another one or the first. This is I guess technically
the first Trump l so far of this future administration,
the utah at Gates.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
To withdraw one of these nominees at a time when
absolutely nobody can tell him shit, Like he just spent
a whole year just being like, I don't give a
fuck what anyone tells me. I'm going to keep doubling
and tripling down. And he believes he's right about everything
(01:52):
that has every he could possibly do, Like there's no
scenario in his mind where he does something wrong now
or in the future. Absolutely for Matt Gates to like,
the evidence on this motherfucker must be so damning. I
mean it to be, like, all right, except for that one.
I was bad, my bad on that one.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
It was damning the second you heard it and you
knew there was evidence of all of it. They're like,
we have payments, we have witnesses. They're talking about trafficking minors,
statutory rape. That's all there. I think for me, I think,
you know, the biggest thing was when he resigned to say, like, oh,
I'm actually doing that because I'm going to be nominated
(02:34):
to be, you know, attorney general. The thing that his
resignation did was effectively end the jurisdiction the House Ethics
Committee had over him in terms of investigating this behavior,
this misconduct, these crimes. So by doing that, he basically
made that investigation toothless. And then there was this whole
thing about, well, well they release the report. There was enough
(02:56):
pressure that apparently they're like, yeah, we're not going to
release the report. And now I just don't think this
is the end of Matt Gates. I mean, there's already
talk of him replacing Marco Rubio as a senator, so
it could just be this, like, you know, they were
looking one move to sort of stop the ethics report
coming out, but then he gets to hop on Marco
Rubio's Senate seat and he still gets to be a
(03:19):
basically of just a firebrand in the Senate to do Trump.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
One way or another, We're getting this pedophile in a
position of power.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Yeah, yeah, either way, either way is what that looks like.
And so yeah, I think it was the evidence. I
think also just generally because some people were.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Like is he doing it?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Like people were speculating like is Trump doing this just
to humiliate Matt Gates during the confirmation because Democrats do
get to ask questions unless he went for like the
recess appointment thing, which sounds like some Republicans in the
House are pushing back on that idea. So this is
the one thing is that, like, although Trump does have
control over the Republican Party and people are bowing to him,
(03:58):
there's still other elements that are trying to do something
slightly different. So it's at the moment slowing things down
a little bit. But all that to say, Pete Hegseth
is still in the running to be a Secretary of Defense,
even though the police report around the like the rape
allegations are have surfaced and it's terrible, and yeah, he's
(04:23):
now like he was caught I think a Capitol Hill
people ask him like, hey, what the fuck is this man?
Like we're seeing hearing a lot about this, and the
police report was released, he said, quote as far as
the media is concerned, it's very simple. The matter was
fully investigated and I was completely cleared. And that's where
I'm going to leave it.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
But that's not true nor yes exactly, so I think, yeah,
sure there were no charges were filed, but there's still
a police report that's out.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
So as far as the media is concerned, No, we're
talking about this very this police report right here that
details all the sex crime is that you committed as
far as.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Well, what about reality, as far as reality.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Is concerned, Yeah, why don't you ask CNN anytime I
do something wrong, I'm just gonna blame blame the media
because they do suck in a lot of ways. And
so yeah, uh yeah. I mean he has control over
the government and the Republican Party and a lot of
people who are preemptively just being like I don't want
(05:27):
to be in trouble with the fascists. But he doesn't
have control over the fabric of reality. And I think
that's going to come in a surprise to him and
some of his supporters.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
He's like, I've just nominated Sid six point seven to
be the arbiter of accepted reality. You might remember him
as the bad guy from Virtuosity.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
That's right, and we all do, and I did even
before we just had that conversation four minutes ago. Netflix
is being sued over the Glitchy Tyson Paul fight. I
always love a good lawsuit. That's like this thing that
was inconvenient happened to me, and I am seeking damages
of at least fifty million dollars.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Wait, wait, someone's suing because he was glitchy.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
The shit was glitchy, dude, I love that.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Yeah, we're so litigious for the worst reasons. I was
so glitchy, man. Fifty million, Yeah, fifty million.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
I don't know if that's like if they're seeking class
action damages fifty million dollars, yeah, so across they want
to get sifty yo, I had fifty I was going
to the casino on that night, and I would have
made fifty million dollars. But yeah, I get I guess
(06:44):
their idea is that a lot of people were inconvenienced
by the glitchy ass presentation, and I respect it.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
I bet this dude bet on Tyson to win lost
a bet, and now we're just trying to recoup his
money somehow by being.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Like, if it hadn't been glitch g then maybe he
would have won, just as a very bad understanding of how.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
But the fight still happened and the result remains. I
don't know, man, who knows.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Legs look shaky because the feed was shaky.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Yeah, Schrodinger's boxing match.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Uh. And then authenticity, just the this idea. I just
want to keep talking about it because it feels like
it's going to be the big thing. It's It's my
takeaway from like this past election is it was the
determining factor in many ways. Like it's the one thing
that people seem to believe Trump has is like he
(07:42):
has this appearance of authenticity, not because he has any
deeply held, authentic human beliefs about what he can do
and like how to benefit people. But he's the most
willing to say fuck you to the mainstream media.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
And not for reasons, just saying fuck you for describing
what I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
He will keep saying it, and he will say it
even louder if as they point out him being wrong.
I do think it's really the only unique thing about
him as a politician, his willingness to say whatever benefits him,
regardless of what the media what, Like the you know,
Democratic Party establishment and you know, in twenty sixteen, the
(08:22):
Republican Party establishment said he would he was just had
an unshakeable belief in himself and the way he saw
things that was fueled by pathological narcissism. But it ended
up working out for him. And I think, on the
other hand, like the Democratic Party seems to have the
opposite of this. They seem to be worried about what
(08:44):
the mainstream media will say about them at all times.
Kamala Harris changed her positions, went to the right in
a bunch of ways that felt completely out of line
with what we knew of her from before. But I
think also like just remember, I think we've also lost
sight of like who the most unpopular politician in the
presidential election was. It actually wasn't Kamala Harris. It was JD. Vance,
(09:08):
And like he was the person who is the most opportunistic,
position changing, inauthentic, sellout piece of shit that like that
that is just the one thing that everybody knew about
him from the start, is he a few years ago
was calling Trump hitler and then became you know, a
(09:30):
sniveling boot thrower, and people despised him. And I just
I don't think people are wrong to value this necessarily
because like we were talking about, like with the the
idea of people having like an allergic reaction to these
like super complex bureaucratic solutions that are like neoliberalism does
(09:51):
hide behind complexity, and it does end up fucking you
over in a lot of ways, like whether it be
you know, health insurance or you know, government programs that
end up you know, getting taken over by corporations. And
I think like authenticity, like we exist in a world where,
like from our youngest days, we are being sent manipulative
(10:14):
messages via marketing that like are trying to control you
and dissuade you. And I think it's like one of
the ways that people are very sophisticated now, and politicians
and like big mainstream political parties just still seem to
be like a generation behind. They're like talking to people
(10:35):
who aren't aware that that is happening, right, And yeah,
I mean I think it's fucking them.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
A lot of the DNC ideas feel like they came
from like your divorced sixty year old uncle who like
just realized you can wear a hat backwards and yeah, hey,
you know it'll be cool.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Exactly we just saw you walk in with the fanny pack,
take it off and turn your hat around backwards, and
turn the chair around backwards. Like we saw that. You
can't make us not see that. But I just I'm
raising it now because like you talked about, like the
way that the Democratic Party is responding to the election is, guys,
(11:12):
we need to shift to the right. You need to
keep changing our position, keep adopting new positions now that
you know, throw everybody under the bus. Like that is
the hardening consensus around what this election is. And like
I I don't really feel any panic about it because
(11:33):
I didn't think that the mainstream Democratic Party or the
mainstream media was going to be the solution. I just
but we need to like recognize that's what it's going
to be. It's not coming whatever is next is not
coming from the mainstream media. It's not coming from the
Democratic Party. It's going to be something that they make
fun of, and that thing needs to target them and
(11:55):
like have that be a part of what they're saying
from the start. They have to like have five, you know,
very specific messages and one of them needs to be
fuck the mainstream media and the you know, Biden administration.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Yeah, or or not just doing it like in the
sort of maga way of like fuck the mainstream media
is like you talk about the corporate capture of media, Yeah,
how it doesn't serve you to actually talk But again,
depending on you know what level of DNC strategist you're
talking about, Like, no, dude, maybe it is good to
like adopt that language.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I think.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
You know, we're currently just experiencing an omni crisis in
the United States. So it's the it's the authenticity, it's
the misogyny, it's the racism. All of these things are
sort of coming together to create a fucking ball rog
of disaster, political disaster that you know, the Democrats had
to face off with. But yeah, I think the thing though,
(12:47):
truly like which the reason it's trending to this idea
of authenticity. There's a Pew Research study that came out
this week that was just talking about how like percent
of American adults are like they're not getting it from
the main stream media at all, Like they're getting their
news from quote news influencers or what the study defines
as a person who consistently posts news related content with
(13:08):
more than one hundred thousand followers on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok x,
or YouTube. That's there again, this is more than fifty
million people getting their news base sweat. When Pugh asked
adults from the age of eighteen twenty nine, that number
increases to thirty seven percent. So this is like a
this is again part of the shifting media diet of
(13:30):
like that people are consuming. And we also this is
why we're hearing so much now too, because clearly the
right has an advantage in this department of their own
like talk a sphere, blogger sphere, influencers, spheres of influences,
and the Democrats are constant like what are we what
are we gonna do? Like we need our own Joe Rogan.
That doesn't mean they need to be pumping more money
(13:52):
into like Podsay of America or things like that, although
that's probably exactly what they're thinking, because these people have
been stallwarts for the establishment Democratic Party. But there's this
in this Wired article, they spoke with this woman Emelia Montooth,
who's like a creator progressive creator, and this was her
takes you said quote what the right does really well
is having a funnel that I believe starts with barstool
(14:14):
sports that reaches mass audiences. The left is missing the
top and middle of these funnels. Rather than working with
individual influencers, they should focus on building that piece of
the ecosystem, that funnel. Because it is true, like it's
if you're not. Most people are not explicitly looking for
political content like on the Internet. They want entertainment. So
if they're if they're even trying to replicate that, I
(14:35):
don't know. I mean, like, you already have huge funnels
for content. Now are they gonna start platforming people that
are more I don't know. It's just hard to kind
of figure out. But I do see that part of
the puzzle of like you capture people with a larger
sort of you know, again just general sort of entertainment,
(14:55):
and then from there they begin to infuse a lot
of like political talkers or things, platform them and normalize
them via that route. But I just don't think like
most of the people.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Like there's The Ringer, right, that's a very popular sports network,
like probably comparable to barstool, maybe not as big as barstool,
but it's big and popular and influential, But it has
like no political stance because it's just sort of a
mainstream media aligned you know, like it's just probably center left.
(15:30):
I actually don't know what the politics of the people
involved in the ring are, but like, I don't think
there's any there there in the same way that they're
you know, whereas like barstool, I guess it just feels
like it's like a lot of the answers that are
coming from people are like okay, and then we need
a forty slide power point to explain like the many
(15:53):
different steps of addressing this. And it's just like it
because like nobody everybody has just been like, well, the
Democrats like are kind of the standard, and like as
a mainstream media institution, we just like kind of trickle
down to that, and people have rejected that because they've
rejected like this neoliberal order, and so I don't know,
(16:14):
there's like a lot of like I think people are
going to try to make the Joe Rogan of the
left and it's just going to be the same thing
we've already had, which.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
There's a lot of yeah, right, I think again, the
Joe Rogan of the left avoids the are the policies
the problem.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (16:33):
That's really I think what we're getting at in the
end is that while that can help and you can
maybe try and like balance the scales in terms of
like the number of visitors consumers of this content to
sort of like lean more to the left, the bigger
issue is that the policies and if if that's not
the first point of interrogation and any kind of post
(16:53):
mortem on this election, it's going to be an absolute failure.
But again, I think that's why there is so much
emphasis on talking about like it, this is it, this
is this, rather than are are we like completely fucking
ourselves over because we are unwilling to grapple these problems
that are being caused by our biggest donors, right, and
we are so locked in with them that we've been
(17:16):
rendered inert in terms of addressing those problems because we're
just kind of we like to we like to pick
a part at the margins. Yeah, it's tough, but yeah,
I think again, like the point about authenticity, it's the
same thing of like are you being consistent with who
you think is vulnerable and who are you're protecting? Because
if that's sliding all over the place, that's hard to
(17:36):
be taken seriously, right, But.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
It's nobody has really tried this. That's that's the thing
to you, Like nobody is currently like in the last election,
like they're going to tell you, well, the Democrats tried
to like be progressive and it failed. They they didn't
and also, like if the best tool that you can
have when it comes to like being authentic is like
(18:00):
actually having the truth and like kindness on your side.
And no, no mainstream party has tried that.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Yeah, because what you're not going to hear fucking Rachel
Maddow get out there and really talk about how, you know,
certain lobbying interests are the reason why the Democratic Party
is unable to really pursue these policies that would you know,
help a plurality of American people. It's not gonna happen,
although she did. We just did find out she's willing.
She's taking, she said, a five million dollar pay cut
(18:29):
because christ MSNBC is in such dire straits right now,
is she so?
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Yeah, I don't know, man, I mean five union pay cut.
What is she going to make she getion dollars?
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Oh no, no, no, okay, So she went from thirty
million to twenty five million, Okay, okay, okay, worth it, guys.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
MSNBC. I'm here, I'll brough.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
I'll do it for fucking I'll do it for one million,
but I won't say that shit that you know, I'll
get kicked off pretty quickly, but it'll be fun.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
We'll have a good run. We'll have a nice run.
Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back, and
we're back. We're back, all right. Glicked is currently tracking
for a combined North American debut in the one hundred
(19:22):
and sixty five million dollar range. That is the Gladiator
to Wicked box office debuts coming this weekend that we
talked about that I think should be Wikadiator or Wadiator or.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Just Wicked too.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Yeah, Wicked too make it make confusing as fuck, Wicked time,
but yeah, I don't know it. So I think that's
about the range that people were thinking for Barbenheimer and
it both of those overperformed. Seemed like it seems like
Wicked did extremely well with critic they they're giving it
(20:01):
like really good reviews, and Gladiator Too is like you
know standard Ridley Scott over the past decade or two,
where you know, we'll see it seems like a lot
of fun.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Yeah, because what Barbara did one f five and Oppenheimer
did eighty opening so they did two thirty five opening
weekend and then it kind of just kept going.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
So but I think the forecast heading in was around like, yeah,
Barbie could do about a million and Oppenheimer could do
like sixty five cool cool cool, and they both overperformed.
So we'll see. Don't sleep on baby Ratu, which is
baby girl and Nasfaratu both dropping on Christmas. Baby Ratu
(20:53):
is so baby, that's more fun to say, Yeah baby, right,
baby girl. Yeah, it's funny. Like the article that the
AP News did an article it was like glicked Barbenheimer,
like is it going to be the new Barbenheimer? And
like the first two paragraphs are just taken up by
people being like, we actually think clicked is the better
(21:15):
way over Wickadiator. Yeah, they recognize that their name sucks. Shit,
They're like, we just need to like get on board
with glicked and move on because having five different names
is not helpful for the movement. This is like a cause.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
This is like the Democrats know, obsessing Overdiers. They're like, clicked, dude,
it's so much bigger than this Wickiator Gladiator glad Wick
and even the eyebrow raising glad dicked glad dicked glad
one's kind of fun.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Glat yeah, gladykus Yeah whatever.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
I know not of wicked enough to for that to
interest me, but I do know about running my fingers
through you know, fields of wheat and hearing your vaguely
ethnic vocals. I don't know if I may have a
moment to see it, like do a solo movie thing,
because I know her majesty is, she's like miss me
(22:15):
with the fucking Gladiator ship.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Really so my wife is on board for the Gladiator
like I want to see that. I really do. Think
it's because of Paul the Skull.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, her magic is like Paul, Okay, Paul, Paul.
And isn't that mess call like a drink? No, but
like that's a that's disqualified to you.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Yeah, but anyways, Uh, but we are traveling this weekend,
so I don't know if I'll probably end up seeing
it over Thanksgiving, but we Thanksgiving Day, Thanksgiving Day.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Baby, Have you ever seen a movie on Thanksgiving Day?
Speaker 1 (22:56):
I think so. We usually go see movies when we're.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
For the Smith's Day movie.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
We always do Christmas Day movies for sure.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
At the theater. At the theater.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Yeah, yeah, I always in the theater. Yeah, We're we're big.
We're a big movie going family.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
I've never seen a movie on Christmas Day, I think
because like at the time, as a kid, all I
wanted to do is just play whatever video like the
one video game I got for the year, and be like, yeah,
you do whatever fuck you want, Like I'm gonna like
have my eyes roll back in front of team for
eight hours. Maybe I'll try that this year.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
You didn't even go see Titanic.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
That shit didn't That shit came out before Christmas? Though,
yeah it did, so I saw it before. I saw
it before like I saw I'm pretty sure I saw
a Titanic opening weekend.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Did you see Avatar in theaters on I did see.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Habitat, but I saw the first Avatar in.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Tokyo actually, oh shit, which may have probably my fondest
Christmas Day movie going experience. Yeah. Oh, you know, it's
so wild.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Every time I've been in Japan for Christmas, I've gone
to see a movie almost like I saw the the
episode seven uh Star Wars when that came out Force Awakens.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
I saw that.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
I think that was on Christmas Day in Japan, and
then I saw Avatar. Now I think it's a daft anyway,
not in America, and that's the only one that counts.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
We live in America, all right. Hey, A fond farewell
to people who no longer live in America. I'm degenerous
and Portia de Rossi are leaving the US and saying
we're not coming back. Fuck you guys for electing Trump.
I you know, Ellen a true hero. I just we
(24:34):
haven't really brought Ellen up in a while because they
get emotional talking about what.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
She Everyone was really terrible to her when she.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Went through yet, so she just had a stand up
special that is basically that that is the tone.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
It's called for your approval, which is very like, okay,
here we go, here you go.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
I hope you're happy. The premise is like, this woman
has been wronged more than anybody, and just to refresh,
she was canceled for doing like cruel and sadistic things
to people who worked for her, such as like hiding
(25:20):
toothpicks around her house and seeing if the cleaning lady
would find them and if not, they're fired, like just
like setting little traps for the people who work for
them to uh like kind out.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
And then also any person who has worked on the
Ellen DeGeneres show, just anecdotally in LA you meet people,
they will always be like, there's the worst fucking thing
I've ever had. And that's when it all came out
because first it was the people who worked on the
Ellen Show being like this workplace is talk seek, and
then the pylon began like, oh, y'all don't know about
the toothpick hiding, and you're like, what it was hiding?
Speaker 1 (25:56):
It was just a thing you heard around La the
entire time I lived here, you know, from like early
two thousand and tens, was that like, oh, the worst
boss in La, you know. And so I just want
to talk about the special, though I was only able
to make it a minute and a half in. She
(26:16):
opens the thing with with like a montage of like
people attacking Ellen degenerous, and she comes out and she
gets a standing oh like she was Malala Man. She
is like, they are just well, yeah, they're you.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Know, her place in television history. I think that's like
in terms of coming out on national television, out on
nation like a seminal moment.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
I think.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
But the vibe of this special was sort of like
using the goodwill of her, you know, taking you know,
being open with the world and who she is on
Ellen to then be like and because of that, ignore
all the other terrible things I have done after that,
and I am actually a martyr because I got through
maybe the first ten minutes, and when I realized, I'm like, oh,
(27:11):
this is just a hay geography of like Ellen DeGeneres
in the form of a stand up thing. I was like,
I get it. Your ego couldn't handle it. You get
to be the only voice on a stage and just
kind of like tell your side of things and whatever. Said,
I was kicked out of show business. Dude, you have
so much like you live in Montecito.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Okay, well, I guess not anymore.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
The Monasito estates, so you are no longer in the
same neighborhood as well.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Now she lives in a castle next to the Crema. Okay, next,
hope you're hand for Erica.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Yeah, also does Porsona ROSSI also suck too, or she's
just catching strays because.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
She's yeah, I got nothing, no problem with hey, portion
might be faint with you, okay. Great? Great performances in
Arrested Development.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
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