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August 22, 2018 65 mins

In episode 217, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Jackie Rae Aubel to discuss Michael Cohen taking a plea deal, highlights from the MTV Video Music Awards, Trump's addiction to Diet Coke, QAnon supporters wanting to sue the mainstream media, ICE's true plan to strip immigrants of their citizenship, prisoners on strike for unpaid labor and poor prison conditions, Microsoft accusing Russians of attempting to hack right-wing think tanks, and more!

FOOTNOTES:

1. Trump’s Former Fixer, Michael Cohen, Reaches a Plea Agreement Over Payments to Women

2. Body found in search for missing Iowa student Mollie Tibbetts, authorities say

3. MTV VMAs 2018: The 15 Best and Worst Moments

4. MTV VMAs: Madonna responds to 'self-indulgent' Aretha tribute

5. VMAs: Kevin Hart faces boycott threats from Trump supporters after 'kneeling' jab

6. The President Suffers From a Diet Coke Addiction, Owns 2 Guns and More Wackiness From Omarosa’s Book

7. INSIDE TRUMP’S HOUR-BY-HOUR BATTLE FOR SELF-PRESERVATION

8. Donald Trump Shouting ‘Get Me A Coke’ On Cohen Tape Sets Twitter Alight

9. A Brief History of Donald Trump's Love Affair With Coca-Cola

10. Diet Sodas Tied to Dementia and Stroke

11. Reported link between diet drinks and dementia and stroke is weak

12. President Trump Reportedly Drinks 12 Diet Cokes a Day. Here’s What That Does to Your Body

13. QAnon Geniuses Ready To Sue 'The MSM' For Making Them Look Stupid :(

14. Denaturalization, explained: how Trump can strip immigrants of their citizenship

15. A Nazi War Crimes Suspect Has Been Deported From the U.S. to Germany

16. Prisoners Launch National 19-Day Strike to Protest Unpaid Labor and Poor Prison Conditions

17. Microsoft thwarts Russian attempts to hack right-wing US think-tanks

18. WATCH: Onra - Secretly [Nobody Has To Know]

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season forty five, episode
three of The Daily. Like guys for Wednesday, I'll get
point second two thousand eight team and names Jack O'Brien,
A kay touch me on me back? She say on?
Mr row Who Bryan h. And I'm thrilled to be
joined as always by my co host, Mr Miles Gray,
The Mouth, the Grade, the Daily. My name is anyway?

(00:27):
That is from Noel Berlage and Berlage at end Berlage
on Twitter. I think that one is from kid Rock. Yeah,
Am I right? I think you might be Okay, great,
let's start this off right. I can't find the name
of the person who gave me that, and I don't
think they'd want me to shout them out because of
my rendition. I am no shaggy. We are thrilled to

(00:49):
be joined in their third seat by the very funny writer, comedian, producer,
and co host The Guilty Pleasure Podcast. Please welcome Jackie
Ray Oh Belle. Thanks guys, thanks so much. We're having me.
It's so it's like to be here. Thank you for
appearing before us, No problem. Yes, we're going to get
to know you a little bit better. In a moment
But first we're gonna tell our listeners what they're in

(01:10):
store for. Uh, We've got breaking news that Cohen flipped
Trump's body man for twenty years. We're not really going
to talk too much about it because we just know
that he flipped. We don't know too many details, but uh, yeah,
that's happening. He's cooperating. We're going to check in with
the b m A S see how that went, find
out why they should have made me feel older than

(01:30):
they did. It didn't makes me feel that old. We're
gonna talk about Trump's coke problem. We are going to
talk about the TOW andn cult and how they're not
really dealing very well. Well they are, they got a plan, right,
they got Uh. We're gonna talk about Russia attempting to
hack right wing think tanks and Microsoft coming out with

(01:53):
that news. We're gonna talk about Ice deporting actual Nazis
Attica the sequel. But for Jackie, we like to ask
our guest, what is something from your search history that's
revealing about who you are? Oh? Sure? So last week
I was at an event at the Ace Hotel in
downtown l A. Have you guys ever been to any
of these Old Broadway theaters in downtown l A. I've
been to the Ace, the Ace, so it's super cool.

(02:16):
It's like really like gothic and like really cool. There's
cool architecture. It's really fun. Put on my Instagram stories
hashtag architecture porn. My story got like thousands of views. So,
but the menut I was there, I was like, Okay,
this place has got to be haunted, Like there's a
ghost somewhere everywhere in downtown. So throughout the entire event,
I was googling Ace Hotel haunted, Ace Theater haunted. Could

(02:40):
not find anything really surprisingly not haunted. How do you know?
I I googled for a solid googled, But what did
your ghost hunting intuition tell you when you were in
the space. Honestly, the devices that I take with me
all the time, you know, those two the E F
P VIA the twing that the you were just drag

(03:00):
them over me and mind kept interesting, kept insisting we
were ghosts exactly. But you guys, you know, you go
through the wall and then you guys were solid, so
your story checks out. You're actually physical human beings. Um,
I don't know. I felt like it was haunted and
I feel like there hasn't been accurate reporting done on
the hauntedness of the Ace Theater slash hotel. That was
one thing from there are haunted hotels downtown though, right

(03:23):
that people. Yes, there's one where there was a woman's
body who was found in the water tank after like
two weeks or something. Yeah, that was wild too, wasn't
that where they had footage of her like wandering around too,
Like she got off the elevator Like turned out it
was bipolar disorder is what they think happened. She's just
you know, mentally ill, So it wasn't as crazy as

(03:45):
it looked at first. We researched this back in the
day at correct but um, but it's still a weird
story because they don't totally know how she got into
the exactly. Jack, So is it that cutting dry? So
maybe not? But yeah, the footage is are at first
because she's like jumps on the elevator and is like
looking out like someone's following her. Uh yeah, So I

(04:06):
don't know, And who knows. Maybe mentally ill people are
more in touch with ghosts, you know. Maybe if not ghosts,
there are also many bed bugs downtown, so I will
consider those a form of ghosts because they will follow
you home and ruin your home. The cockroaches downtown are vicious, Yeah,
they are. One actually learned how to use a knife

(04:27):
and Robbie knife. That's why I only have one shoe
on today. You were not speaking from personal experience on
the bed bug thing, just for the sake of your
property value, right, Uh? No, yes, you're right. I do
not have bed bugs and fighting that problem for I
wear this hefty bag around my body just you know,

(04:49):
a sweatsuit going to the beach soon. Yeah. And all
those spots of blood that appear on your clothing nothing
to do with that. That's I'm just doing like a
Yayoi Kusama sort of type of paint experiment art piece. Yes,
on my body. We can all tell, uh, Jackie, what
is something you think is underrated? Underrated? Being vulnerable? Yeah? Yeah,

(05:10):
I think that people should be more vulnerable when they're
feeling scared or anxious and be like I need a hug.
I Like, we're so focused on putting on this hard exterior,
tough exterior that we don't need anyone's help. And I
think that the world would be a better place if
we all just admitted when we did need some help. Yeah,
but like what if you're like mean, you just don't
need help for anyone because you're always just totally everything.

(05:33):
That's a really interesting point because I've never been wrong
in that way. That's well, No, I think I don't
want to talk over your point, though, because it is
such a good point. I do think, like America in particular,
in the Western cultures in particular, a lot of the
diseases that we suffer from, like addiction and depression and
all these different things, are specifically diseases that like cultures

(05:56):
where people are more socially integrated don't struggle with as
much because they're all about like kind of closing up
and like keeping secrets from people and not like, you know,
integrating with the people around you, not being able to
ask for help not like yeah, oh definitely, And I
think it prevents us from getting into deeper relationships because
we're always trying to put on this front that we

(06:16):
are actually way more cool, or we're acting what we
think is cool than we actually are. Right, Sometimes we
don't need to be right, We just need to be loved. Yeah,
And we can just say I don't even need to
win this argument. What I think I just need to say,
hug and in the case of you two, which you
guys are never wrong, just being vulnerable will make people
more comfortable around you, exactly. And you know that's why

(06:36):
I still haven't sold my movie pass stock, because the
truth will emerge. We're going to be so rich man, Dude,
you're already I've already. I've already picked out the Lambo
I want and bought it, so bookmarks tab that's why
I'm parking it, uh here at works so it's not
attached to the registration address anyway. But yeah, we're doing fine. Hey,

(06:59):
would you rather be right or would you rather be happy?
I can't pick both one or the other? Am I right?
Welcome to my self help group. What is something, Jackie
that you think is overrated? Oh? The Korean face masks.
It just feels like there's a wet paper towel on
my face. It doesn't stay, and it like kind of

(07:21):
makes my face staying a little bit. And I just
don't think they do what they're promising that they do.
What's your secret? You have very clear skin? What are
you doing? Baths for an hour? I fill up my
tub with mayonnaise, and I just roll around in it
and I stay in there for a whole hour. No,
I do a bunch of skincare. That's all for preventing.

(07:41):
So for you, it's just more that it's it seems
more like it's popular just because of like the visuals
of wearing the mask than like the actual benefits in
terms of a dermatological sense. Yes, and also this may
very well be wrong, but I think they're way too
cheap to be effective. Like you can get them at right.
It for like to and it's like it's not going
to do anything for my face, Like I need the

(08:02):
skin mask, but it's royal. Yeah, we do need a
slasher film made with somebody who's wearing one of those.
When it works, the mask would fall off the entire time.
That would be part of their magical power is that
it just stays on somehow. That's what's so scared. It's like, wait,
how are you keeping that on your face as they
like lean over you to kill you. That's a great pitch. Yeah,

(08:24):
what do you want to call it? Korean beauty masks? Killer?
But my wife wears those and it is the most
scared I've ever been, Like by someone just like you
look up and like she doesn't like tell me when
she's about to put one on, so I just like
turn around and it's a really scared like people should
google image search it too. You're just suddenly faced by
it's like a blank mask. Like it totally there's no face,

(08:48):
no no face, like unexpressive. It's got like a Michael
Myers vibe. Yeah, because it doesn't unlike other face masks
if you put them on, like the cream ones, like
it gets the contours of your face, you can see
the face behind that. But the Korean skincare mask, it's
just a big circle to I'm surprised people haven't tried
to rob banks with them yet. They should. Yeah, and

(09:08):
our remakeup point break and it will be what we want.
But it's the graphic ones that I'll be the panda
face right and you can be the like shogun helmet.
I think they should just all have some graphic on
them to make them less scary. Yes, yeah, that's good.
I haven't seen the graphic ones. But if we do that,
then they'll know when they look for the suspects, they're
like they're going to have impossibly flawless skin right. I

(09:30):
mean the proof is in the pudding, Jackie. What is
a myth with something people think it is true that
you know to be false. Um, this is gonna be
I do know this to be false, and I know
a lot of people aren't gonna believe me when I
say this, but um, that Facebook isn't listening to you
through your phone microphone, and I know this to be true.
You know they are. I know they're not. You know

(09:51):
they're not. I know they're not. And a lot of
my knowledge comes from this one podcast that I like
a lot, called reply All on Gimlet Media. But also
I do social media for like brands and entertainment stuff
as well. Um, and I just have access into the
Facebook page in demographics world and like all the Facebook's tricks.
So like if you're hanging out with your friend and

(10:11):
you're talking about like, I don't know blue Apron, and
then you're like, I never googled it, and then I
went on Facebook and I got an ad for blue
Apron and then you're like freak out about it. It
could be because your friends with that friend that you
talked about it with and Facebook's off. The two of
you guys were together and they were just googling blue Apron.
So like Facebook is serving you up an add because
they saw that you were like geo tagged with your friend.

(10:32):
Does that make sense? Yeah, No, that totally makes sense.
I mean when I noticed it. It's usually on Instagram,
and it's like within minutes of me actually being on
a page for said service or product or something where
I'll look at a travel site or something, and then
suddenly it shows up on my Instagram for you gotta
clear your cash, you gotta clear your cookies. Sometimes it
helps me, it helps remind me I like, oh shit,
I was interested in a lawnmower. I don't mind a cookie. Yeah,

(10:55):
because exactly like sometimes a jumpsuit. I like, well, like
follow me on the internet and I'm like, you know what,
I really want that jump And that's fine because now
I get a little treat. But I mean, just clear
cash and you know, keep moving, keep it moving. That's
interesting though, because it suggests that like Facebook has access
to how ideas move in like groups, like you know

(11:15):
how when you hear a word for the first time
and then suddenly you hear it like three more times
in the next couple of days. But does that happen
anybody else. Yeah, yeah, exactly, Like I had never heard
e D used all that much, and then like and
then suddenly I got to know Miles and it was
like all over the place. No, but it is, I know, No,

(11:37):
when you're talking talking about other people, I know. But
I do wonder how much of that is just like
social contagion and like ideas or like you know, people
like you and you're a group of friends are like
suddenly getting onto an idea even though you're not like
hearing it from one another necessarily. Well, that's true. I
think it's a lot that the algorithms serve you up

(12:00):
that your friends are also looking at. So they'll look
to see at what rate are you interacting with this person?
And they also have data Facebook as data from Facebook,
Messenger and Instagram, so like all that data goes together
and they just yeah, it's crazy. So Facebook is no
less powerful than we thought. It's just not doing it
the way that you thought. Actually knows everything about what

(12:24):
you were about to think of tomorrow. It already knows that.
It just knows it in a different way and it
doesn't have to listen to you. But it's also very
funny that people complain about it listening to them and
then they have like Amazon echoes in their house and
I'm just like, um, yeah, Amazon Echo was used in
a murder trial because people were talking about it and
like the Amazon was listening and the police were able

(12:45):
to just get those records. I think we should pull
that Amazon Echo into your sheet mask murder pitch. Now
we have a film, the most millennial weird thing. It's
wrecking Amazon Echo. The killer's name is as Alexa. Fantastic.
All right, Zi gang, I know that people with the
photoshop skills always do that. Show me the Alexa wearing

(13:06):
the sheet mask with a knife in hand. Alright, guys,
there's a couple of breaking news stories that are happening.
Like we mentioned, Cohen is apparently cooperating with the district attorney. So,
I mean, this has been Trump's guy for years. He
knows where the bodies are buried. We won't know necessarily
what the implications are of this, other than that it's

(13:28):
just probably very bad for the president. Well let's let's
just we'll see what his Twitter looks like later today
and we'll know how when well, I mean even last
night he was like I can control the Mueller probe
if I want you who told you that? Is that
what they're telling you to get you to shut up
in the White House is like, you know, don't worry,
Mr President, you can actually do whatever you want. And
they're like, okay, great, and then yeah, he's plea he's yeah,

(13:50):
entered a plea deal for like all of his you
know fraud that was coming through his taxi companies and
things like that, over twenty million dollars in fraud. So
you know he'll plead guilty to that and see where
that goes. How the fun Like these guys just have
their incompetent and they get so much money. It really
makes white color crime look very attractive to me. Remember,

(14:11):
like Dan rather, we're just calling this crime. Crimes are crime.
Criminals are criminals. It's just because they're doing like cool
like rich white guy crime, right, you know what I mean.
It's like, yeah, just steal money, but like without using
guns or knives, just shoddy paperwork. But they're not very
good at it, you know, because I think the system
has been such where like it's like we don't worry

(14:33):
about them, Let's focus on you know, drug addicts and
other people who we can really be like, oh, if
this guy is bad and get him away, rather than
people who are like just siphoning money out of you know,
banks or you know our tax structure, whatever, you know,
take take your take your pick. I'm curious to see
what Cohen flipping will actually do. I'm like at this
point right now with the President where I'm like, I

(14:53):
don't think anything matters not. I think everyone kind of is.
I think I'm in the same boat as like, I'll
believe it when I see it. In the beginning, I
remember the presidency was like man, thank god, Oh he's fucked.
Oh man, you're going down now. No, I mean again,
unless he's like part of his cooperation with Robert Muller
is something where he's like, Okay, here's this thing that

(15:14):
you need that puts it all together. But but but
like it just seems so just like I'm not able
to grasp it, you know, and it's like kind of
like just trying to hold onto smoke. I don't know
what's going to happen, and it makes me scared, I
mean vulnerable. Well, you know, as as long as if look,
if the Democrats can take the House and my goodness,
if they could take the Senate to in November. That
definitely that actually bolsters the check on his power a

(15:37):
a lot more than it used to. That's true. But
I think you're right that people assume that Cohen is
actually knows where literal bodies are buried, and there's going
to be this big reveal of a secret that gets
Trump and you know, Colombo style at the end of
the Matlock episode and one, yeah, Trump is Trump is
going to get fingered for like a thing that we

(15:59):
didn't know about. And it's like, no, he's committing all
the crimes out in the open, guys. It's just he's
going to confirm what we already know. And then you know,
it'll be a technicality of whether they're able to blame
him for it or not. The other breaking news story,
which is very sad, obviously, is that the body of
that Iowa jogger was found in Iowa. Uh and we

(16:22):
don't know much about it, but that is the number
one trending search on Google. So you know, as a
reporter on the zeitgeist, that is something that is in
the zeitgeist and having googled it for you, there's not
much that we know about it, what happened. I'm not
familiar with this at all. She just disappeared and we
don't know anything really, And I think that's why it's

(16:42):
such a kind of intriguing story to people, is that,
you know, she was just a random college student, went
for a jug, disappeared, and it seems like everybody around
her is just as confused as you would be if
it happened to anyone, you know. Uh. And then moving
on to the v M A s which everyone was
talking think about yesterday. Uh, So these happened. I was

(17:03):
watching them out of the corner of my eye. That's
essentially my report. These happened. So I felt like I
was going to be I'm like, all right, this is
gonna make me feel very old. It did not. The
Backstreet Boys showed up. During the pre show. J Lo
performed for approximately forty five minutes because she was receiving

(17:24):
a Video Vanguard Award, and then she gave a speech
for what seemed like a half hour where she was
just pointing to people in the audience to me like, Dave,
stand up, Dave, you always believed in me, Thank you, Steve,
you always believed in me. Thank you Steve. It was
just Dave. It was just yeah, that's the thing. It
was like names Steve. It was like industry people that

(17:46):
I'm sure like you might have heard of, but like me,
as somebody who doesn't Dave in the industry, there's only
one Dave. Let's be real. There was a moment where
it seemed like it might be like they teased this
post Malone performance of rock Star and it started out

(18:07):
like a performance of that song, and then suddenly they
were like and now please welcome Aerosmith, and Aerosmith came
in and started playing dream On, and post Malone just
like played guitar in the background while Aerosmith played dream On.
So it's almost like Aerosmith Smith performed. Yeah, as like
the big moment of the thing, Like because I remember

(18:30):
there was that Super Bowl show where Aerosmith came in
and like did walk this way right? The fu is Aerosmith? Yeah,
and Yo, get the funk out of here. I know,
but that end, post Malone was hold on like really amazed. Wait,
I can't handle this fucking Aerosmith. Yes, Wow, I thought

(18:52):
it was a joke. He's like yeah, Backstley Boys, j
love fucking Aerosmith, I mean no, I mean, you know,
Aerosmith is cool or whatever, but like, yo, the v
m as are well, they did like two minutes of
the song that people like right now, and then we're
like and now Ira Smith, Ladies and Gentlemen is like.
Which it's interesting because a lot of people say that
the reason that nobody buys tickets for new artists and

(19:16):
everybody like still the best selling artists when they go
on tours or like the Rolling Stones and all these
old artists that were around during the eighties is because
MTV stopped playing music a certain amount of time ago,
and it's like all the artists who were around back
when people watch music videos and we're like identifying with
artists and like could like identify a face with a

(19:38):
name more that that is when MTV and the music
industry had the power to get people out to shows.
So maybe this is MTV sort of acknowledging like, yeah,
we don't really have anything new that we like or
that like we we think people are gonna like. So
that's true because I don't know what anybody looks like anymore.
I just know, like with rappers, I'm like, which face

(20:00):
tattoo guys right. So yeah, they they clearly are not
confident in new music because they just kept throwing out
all these people from back in the day. And the
climax of that was when Madonna came out to It
was presented like a tribute to Aretha Franklin. There was
a big photograph in the background projector of Aretha Franklin.

(20:23):
Madonna walked out looking like she had a bunch of
stuff from the movie District Nine glued to her face
and torso it was like a very it looked like
she was was about to do some sort of religious
rituals the world from the universe of that movie. Yeah,
very shamanesque, like trash shaman, like literal garbage shaman like

(20:45):
she went and created shaman, very a Moroccan vibe. Yeah,
I was a little bit like, really that's but yeah,
I was fine with it. She's Madonna, she you know,
does her her thing. But so then she got up
and told a story that tangentially related to Aretha Franklin.

(21:08):
Um that basically the story was nobody believed in her Madonna,
and then she went to try out for a bunch
of things and people wouldn't give her a job. She
moved from Detroit, which is where Aretha Franklin is also from,
so that was not right that or Motown, you know.
And then at one of her tryouts where she didn't

(21:29):
get a thing, she sang Natural Woman by Aretha Franklin.
She didn't get a call back from that, but the
French producer who was there later called her and told
her she wasn't right for the part, but that they
wanted to make her into a star. And this anecdote,
by the way, allowed her to show off her killer

(21:50):
French accent, like this was clearly a famous person who's
been famous for so long that whatever she says people
are just like, that's fascinating. So she was telling this
like aimless, fucking story that has no point and the tangentially,
so she literally says at the end, so why am
I telling you this rambling story? Because if Aretha Franklin

(22:11):
hadn't been, you know, a small, basically arbitrary part of
my story, I technically might not have been there, although
probably I would have just sung a different song. And
who can imagine a world without me? Madonna? And then
she closed it out by talking about how her first
performance of Like a Virgin was at the v m
as and somebody again told her, like, you'll never work

(22:33):
in this town again, and enough said, am I right?
And in that way she honors Aretha right exactly. It
was like what it was, just like it had to
be about Madonna for most of it, and then Aretha
Franklin was trying to get in there, but she couldn't

(22:54):
stop talking about Madonna for long enough. And that's like
what I expected, Madonna. So it was at least stay
memorable moment. A lot a lot of the show was
just people in Sparkly Ship just you know, doing musical numbers.
Madonna then later tried to like defend it. I guess
I read it. She's like, I really wasn't trying to
do a tribute. She's like, they sent me out there
and just asked me to do an anecdote of anything

(23:16):
I had, and she's like, that's what I had. So
I mean in that sense, I don't I can see
why it sounded like that, but on them TV, what
are you fucking doing? Put a proper tribute together. Don't
be like, oh, sorry, Madge, you got like a tight
ninety on Wreatha, you can do yes, Well, that just
goes they don't care about music anymore. Yeah right, I mean.

(23:37):
And also has Madonna heard herself saying she thought she
could finesse natural woman in an audition. That is some confidence.
I had no idea the m as were the other night. Yeah,
no idea. But I'm very happy to hear that Cardi
b one best New Artist. Yeah she did. She opened
up the show by it looked like she was coming

(23:58):
out there and going to rest feed on camera, but
actually she was holding a v m A award. Where
the baby? Did she rest feed the award? She didn't.
The man was left. It was a real tease. But
Kevin Hart, you clearly do not pay attention to the
right wing media sphere, then, Jackie, because Kevin Hart said

(24:20):
a really be nine joke about the President and right
wing media lost their ship. He said that people at
the v m A is like run off to the
bathroom and angry tweet. Uh, and it's just like being
in the White House in your face. Trump, suck it.
That's the joke. That was the joke, and right wing
media lost and they were it's still on. Drudge comedian

(24:44):
kicks off MTV Awards by taunting President quote in your face,
Trump suck it. So I think the right wing is
just used to uh, you know, they're not relevant, but
they like pay attention to what is relevant, and they're like,
well the MTV V May's like that's a thing that
and then how do I make myself a victim of this?
And then they just find a way to you know,

(25:06):
they remember when Kanye came out and did the I'm
Gonna let you finish thing and that that angered conservative
white people very much because he was mean to Taylor. Well,
they wouldn't like Aretha Franklin to did you see that
cliff that was going around the weekend where someone was
interviewing her and then they're like a wreatha, tell us
your thoughts on Adele. She's like powerful singer, great voice,
and like does Alicia Keys, She's like great piano player,

(25:29):
great singer, blah bah blah, Taylor Swift, beautiful gowns, wonderful gowns.
And then just moved on like okay, shade queen, Oh damn,
beautiful gowns. Beautiful gowns. Um. Yeah. So the right wing
was very triggered by and friends. They had a graphic
with Kevin Hart's face and it said heart attack that

(25:51):
I don't even know it for was the most benign,
like inoffensive thing I've ever seen. So they were just
ready for anything. Anything. That's what they're ready for. They're
just ready to be offended. Yes, they've become the friends
you can't take out because something they're going to complain
about something he has nothing to do with them, Like,

(26:12):
I'll be inconsistent with my outrage, but I have to
be in a permanc I wonder if it's a strategy
to just keep them relevant on top of mind, right, Yeah,
and it's also to keep making sure that the people
who are aligned with their thinking understand what the sides
are every time, like he said this and we're not
that side. So we remember got circle the wagons because

(26:32):
Kevin Hart said something relevant and said suck it, you
know what I mean. And then that's how their viewers
can be like that's okay because I saw that and laughed.
But I'm I'm getting my cue from this show. Okay,
this word on a different side. We're on a different side.
He will not suck it, Kevin Hart, you suck it. Also, Jackie,
you pointed out that Pete Davidson looks like Steve Bushey.

(26:54):
And now I can't think of anything else. I feel
bad for I'm ship in that relationship Ariana Grande. I
think it's about time. When will she wake up? All right,
we're gonna take a quick break. We'll be right back.

(27:20):
And we're back. And we wanted to talk about the
president's coke problem. Oh, through the bag, can smell it
through the bag? Oh, what are you talking about? We're
talking about the president having a dependency on diet coke. Yes,

(27:44):
all that aspertain. We we've talked before about how to
write some of my jokes for this. I think we
talked to even yesterday about how a lot of the
artificial sweetener like a panic that happened in the eighties
was because they were feeding like in order to taken
the amount of artificial sweetener that they fed rats that
gave them cancer, you would have to eat nutral sweet

(28:07):
by the like wheelbarrow full. Right. So it's like, well,
nobody would ever do that except excepts is doing that?
Um So Amar Rossa and her latest book, her latest,
she has more probably read her first couple and her
latest is about her time in the White House, and

(28:29):
she talks about how she would put the average at
eight cans a day for the last fifteen years. In
her time knowing him, she said he never does not
have a diet coke in his hand, which totals out
to forty three eight hundred cans of diet coke that
he has poured into his body in that time. They
say that your body completely replaces it sells every seven years.

(28:51):
So he is mostly diet coke. I I guess at
this point, um, and then we'll again un of aspart
tame and a can. I don't care. So he's ingested
about fourteen pounds of a sparta Maya. Could you imagine

(29:11):
eating a fourteen pound bag of a Sparta? I can't imagine.
You just did nath in your head, Like, yeah, well,
you know, I hate to play into the stereotype, but
I am good with that calculator. Um, that's ridiculous. Yeah,
that's actually ridiculous. But I also kind of feel like
Lacroix might be killing us too. Yeah, well, what's in there? Really? Yeah,
exact from the problematic CEO. Every time I reached for

(29:34):
the can, I think of those pilots and I retreat.
I didn't know Lacroix is problematic. Well, the the CEO
is kind of a cookie guy. We did a story
on him. He was feeling up the pilots on his
private jet like a bunch of times, and it was
he's a very odd person. But you know, this is
neither here and there. We're talking about the president. It's fine,
it's fine, it's fine. Um, that's yeah. I don't like that,

(29:56):
does it? Like? Do do do you think he has like
a diet can of coke, tight can of coke and
in lieu of coffee or something like that. Oh? Yeah,
I think it's drinks. I think it's the only thing
he drinks, the only liquid that he can drink of water. Yeah,
that one. Remember he held it like a how to
hold it was like, is this going to come apart
in my hands? So he's just dehydrated? Yeah, oh for sure.

(30:20):
Um is he infamously does not do drugs or drink alcoholism.
That's the thing he's most known for, unless it's I mean,
unless a doctor prescribes, right, in which case we do
know that he used to see back in the eighties
and nineties, used to see a doctor who was famous
for prescribing Manhattan socialites just all all the speed in

(30:43):
the world. That would that would make a lot of
sense of his behavior. Also, although people are saying that
even diet coke can contribute to dementia, there have been
new studies that say that people who drink a lot
of diet coke are more likely, like five are sent
more likely to suffer from the mansion but even strokes. Yeah,

(31:04):
I mean, but you know those medical studies are it
wasn't saying that there was like a cause and effect relationship,
but that when they observed that group. What was the
study sponsored by like diet Pepsi or something. I mean,
I don't know about that. I think it was done
like it was actually the K's National Health Service, which
is owned by but even the UK is owned by PepsiCo.

(31:24):
By PepsiCo, Yeah, but I think you know, but even
then they're saying they're like, we're not trying to say
that there's a cause and effect, but we noticed this relationship.
I mean, who think that. The thing that struck out
to me was that in the Ambrosa things, she was
saying that she would have to go make the diet
coke runs, like go out to sam'l to stock the fridge.
Now if I'm not mistaken. You'd you'd imagine that in

(31:46):
the White House being the president, even for this asshole,
they would be like, what do you need in the
house to be like livable, you know, because not a
fucking airbnb where they're like, there's a love of bread
in there. You have that? However, like, well have it
helicoptered in from the Coke Corporation in Atlanta? Right? Yeah,
I don't know that's what That's what I was like,

(32:06):
Is that like a shade move to like be like, yo,
go get Mark coke at Sam's Club you work in
the oval office, or maybe he's just going through them
so quickly the staff can't keep up right like that,
we haven't coming in on pallettes. I don't understand. What
is he just taking one sip and then throwing it away?
Does he always have to have the new sip of
a camp Oh no, he has an ivy drip that

(32:27):
just diet coke? Lord? What does he do so? Because
that is how he consumes a lot of junk food, right, Like, no,
the like throwing most of it away and just taking
like one bite or he I feel like I don't
know for how big I think he doesn't he just
eats the topic. It's the top from one report we
read he only likes he only needs the body, the

(32:48):
good partly need the good part, which is the cheese.
And I can't stop getting that one image of him
climbing up the airplane, you know what I'm talking about,
where like his booty's popping. We're like the wind and
it's blowing. That's just in my mind, right talk. That's
why I'm like, that's the dude who respects the sacrifice
made for all those burgers. He's he's eating those to completion.

(33:08):
I feel like, so this brought up a question in
my mind because he basically eats three Big Max a
day is the estimate, like on average. But he's not
eating McDonald's every damn day, is he? He eats it
a lot. I don't think he eat whatever the fun
he wants, so, but it raised the question if they're
going to Sam's Club for diet coke, they're just going

(33:32):
to like an average McDonald's and it's like three guys
with like earwigs and like clearly secret service agents being
like we need five Big Max and these for you guys. Yeah,
like a teenager's probably faring farting all over it and
maybe like, like why that just seems like such a
wild security risk to be taking, Like but that's but no,

(33:54):
he his whole logic is they never know when I'm coming,
therefore they can't funk with my thing, and that's how
I stay safe. Yeah, that's always been the thing with him.
And because he's such a germophobe that he feels like, well,
they'll never suck me over. Maybe diet coke is an
anti venom for most poisons, and he's just drinking it

(34:15):
by the buttload because of that. It kills the poisons.
It's so bad for you, it actually kills all poisons.
But it also makes me think that he's definitely had
like a Sam's club like burger or hot Dog or
something like that. Just amrosa picking it up on the
way out right right, go back Costco, give me a
chicken bake. But I mean, at the same time, he's

(34:36):
sending people to pick up his McDonald's, Like, we don't
know if he can trust those people to not be
like this for the president man or like you know,
and also those people probably hate him because he's like
so mean to everybody. So I just have to think
he's ingesting a lot of come. But that's definitely oh yeah,
that's food. Also pick up better burger. You're the freaking president, right,

(34:57):
like there's other options. Yeah, we're getting mad now because
like God, still have like a fucking I mean, have
you had the Bubba's brand frozen patties? Some chips cook
all right for being frozen. Yeah, they get some birch
beer in there. Oh yeah, like booga soda. He probably
it's probably so disgusted because he's like a steak well
done with fries dude, even at a restaurant. So yeah,

(35:21):
I was just listening to the last podcast on the
Left about the Iceman and like how he murdered people
with poisons with what's what's the one poison that sounded
almond sinide and like it's I don't know, it's just
smells like almond. That's horrible. I love this taste like almonds.
Oh no, I know, but I just drank a whole

(35:43):
bottle of almond flavor. Uh, I don't know. It just
seems like he's really opening himself up and I don't know.
And also when he does die of a stroke or
like a heart attack, like, there's gonna be so conspiracy
theories because his followers tend to be the type of
people who believe in quenoa or q and on as

(36:07):
it's pronounced in some circles. Uh and so Miles, they
are up in arms and they have a plan. They
I mean, we've talked about the q and On conspiracy
theory if you've are somehow one of these weirdos who
missed that show. Q and On is this very sad
conspiracy theory that covers many topics, but one of them

(36:28):
is that there's someone with Q level security clearance who
knows what's really going on with the deep stuit. And
a lot of that conspiracy has to do with the
fact that Robert Mueller is actually not trying to being
Donald Trump down. Is that Donald Trump and Robert Mueller
are working together to bring down Barack Obama and Hillary
Clinton and the pedophile sex rings that are out here. Oh,
this was the pizza gate thing, right well, and this

(36:48):
is before pizza Gate, So this is this is the
new the newest thing, and it's starting to like at
his rallies, more and more people are showing up with
q T shirts and like CNN interviewed him. We have
an episode where like you could hear them basically like
like a journalist is walking them through their own ideas,
and then they're kind of like, uh, like a few
people are kind of realizing how flimsy it is. But anyway,
it's basically a security blanket for very scared Trumpers to

(37:11):
be like, no, what is actually happening that is objectively
does not look good for the president is actually it's
a good thing. We just don't know because there's something
going on behind the scenes that you have to read
between the lines. So this is not one of the
Trump supporter conspiracy theories where it's like, well, we're never
really gonna know. It's one where it's like they it

(37:33):
has a clear expiration date. It's like one of those
cults where they're like and the world is gonna end
on this date and like two weeks and when it doesn't,
you're like, well, you were wrong. Because they think that
once the Muller investigation is over, it's going to be
revealed that he was working with Trump the whole time,
which is why some people think that the whole q
and On conspiracy was a left wing like troll like

(37:55):
fuck you, yeah, like, I mean it would be brilliant,
it really, I mean it will be because we are
going to eventually find out that Muller was not secretly
working with Trump to uncover a bunch of pedophiles, quite
the opposite. So this is like, these people, as much
as it's possible to feel sympathy for people, they are
going to be proven wrong very publicly, and they're already like,

(38:20):
oh god, man, I really need this to be true.
So on ah Chan, which is one of the Internet's
greatest message whole yeah, turn it up by two anyway,
on h and there's some Q and on people talking
and they one person began this discussion about lawsuit against
the mainstream media because they're making us look stupid, basically

(38:43):
is what their argument. So I just want to read
some choice posts on this message board. Wankad pulled some
of these and they are hilarious. So the first one
says this is, and I'm quoting verbatim, here we go.
When this is all done, can we get a class
action lawsuit going against the MSM for wrecking all our families?
No joke. The amount of division and pain the mainstream
media has caused is incalculable. Just got accused by my

(39:06):
sixty seven year old mother for spewing lies in aligning
to a hateful ideology. Truth Bomber about Manford being exonerated
eight years ago by Rosenstein, truth Bombeder about Operation mocking Bird,
truth Bombeder about POSCO, blah blah blah, blah blah, goes on.
She then has the audacity to call them lies but
can't provide evidence, just turns on me and tries to
make me think I'm irrational. I'm serious, the M s M.

(39:29):
They're responsible for this ship. How many families have been
fighting for the past two years, breakups, divorces, fired, a
strange families and ex friends. God damn the mainstream media.
I can't wait anymore. Let's just sue him now. So
you know what, he's being vulnerable, Yeah, I guess so, Yeah,
he is being vulnerable in a way right, but not
being he but he's still has to be right and

(39:51):
he's still putting up the thing where he can't just
own he's like, he's not being vulnerable in the way
that he can be honest himself. Like, look, I'm was
very desperate to not believe this, and I'm I feel
really bad right now because I don't know what to do.
It's is what this this, this whole conspiracy theory is
built out of an inability to show vulnerability. They're just
unwilling to be wrong about anything, and so they were

(40:14):
Trump supporters. It's either that Trump is guilty or there
is a massive, like the stinging style operation that is
going on where Trump is like playing the mainstream media
and they cannot show vulnerability about Trump being wrong, so
they have constructed this giant conspiracy theory based on a
guy who just tweets stuff like the storm is coming,

(40:35):
and they're like, see that means like they that was
when Trump said that in front of a bunch of
military families that they were like, what is he talking about?
What's he talking about? Anyway? So let me read a
couple more because because then the whole crew jumps in
to be like, let me let me regal you with
tales of emotional trauma because of my belief in Q
and on. There's another one. I'm sleeping on the couch

(40:56):
again tonight because I had a flare up. I hope
this turns out to be truer than true. My wife
wants to divorce me soon, possibly because she thinks I'm
in a cult group for reading this stuff. It sucks.
I'm doo sick over it. Typo um, Okay, what about
this one? Goodness, Yes, I agree with you. I don't
know what everybody is going through entirely, but what I've
been through has really changed my life. I've lost friends,

(41:17):
been accused of all kinds of things, and almost had
my girlfriend turned against me during gamer Gate. She read
the wiki on it and thought I was some kind
of Nazi for being pro gamer Gate. We have been abused, criticized, shamed, misrepresented,
and we kept turning to the liberals while the liberals
commy liberals. I'm not saying the caring, classical, woke liberals

(41:37):
certainly seemed like the enemy. The real enemy is was
the elite and mainstream media. Another person, same story here.
I don't really talk to my seven year old parents
in laws anymore, even my college educated younger brother and
his wife, because all they watch is MSNBC, CNN, and MPR,
and they've learned only to hate a straw man of me.
I can't talk to them about anything at all. Recently,

(41:58):
Pops made some delusional comment about Trump being a crony
capitalist giving kickbacks to his buddies in the prison industry.
I was tired of the insanity and spoke up saying
Trump is actually working to break up all that sort
of thing and have prison reforms. This guy got emotionally
upset with me for even hinting at a defensive Trump's character.
If only they knew what was going on here. Oh god,

(42:19):
So yeah, so many thoughts those people are. They're so
hurt that it really makes me sad. Well, right, because
they're really grasping onto this thing of like everything I
thought is a lie, but now they just have to say, well,
reality has to be alive it. Yeah, but this goes
back to if Trump diet tomorrow, if Trump got like

(42:43):
resigned from office tomorrow, these people that will not accept it,
they're not going to accept it. They're not going to
be like, like, they have way too much tied up
in this. So the only way it could be as
if Trump, which will never happen, made a public address
and said I did commit these things, I am going
to resign my presidency because of these acts that I took,
I should not be president of the United States. No,
but even if he said that, they would spin it

(43:04):
into no, he's being forced to say that it's a
deep Yeah, they would say all of those things. It's
so it's just so sad. But yeah, I guess just
in general, like the lack of self awareness and being
able to own up to like, yeah, look, maybe you
really did think Trump was going to bring jobs back
to where you were or somehow address your condition you're

(43:25):
in with bills, with medical care or whatever, and it
didn't happen. And now you're starting to see that all
these things are coming out that would indicate to most
people that him being president isn't a good thing. But
if you can't accept that, then you just have to
go on to I need something else to keep me feel.
What are the five stages of of loss of mourning?
This is like the denial stage people, So next is

(43:48):
like it's like bargaining and then depression. Yeah, but that's
when people are unable to like if you had a
whole conspiracy that like a whole group of people who
was like, yeah, no, you're right, your husband isn't dead,
And here's the conspiracy where he's like hiding over somewhere
and he's doing it all to save the world, Like

(44:08):
they's working with Jesus to put the devil in jail
and then he will come back, right. You would just
never need to get through the denial stage. And I
feel like that's where we might It's the same ship
with people who go to like psychics to feel good about,
you know, because you know, a psychic will just tell
you some ship that you're like, oh, okay, good, that's
really what's going on. And sure, I mean on some

(44:30):
level people have intuition or whatever, but I think a
lot of people need sometimes they just need something outside
of themselves to help explain away the bad ship that
they're experiencing or feeling. And like your family is telling you, hey,
this you're fullest ship. None of this is true. Wake
the funk up. It's hard for something like, yeah, you're right,
I was really fucking dumb. There wasn't I That's just

(44:50):
the thing that it's hard for people to say. We've
talked before. Like one of the most surprising things I've
learned just in reading up on most of the people
who believe all this ship and who are you know,
like the Roger Stones of the world, who are still
Trump supporters. One of their core beliefs is that Nixon
got railroaded. The whole Watergate thing was Nixon being done

(45:11):
wrong by the liberal mainstream media. So all this ship
that they're now coming out and openly believing the basis
for that has been brewing in the conservative movement four years.
It's just they haven't felt strong enough to come out
and say it in public. So yeah, there's never gonna
be like, these folks are never going to admit that
they're wrong. Yeah, yeah, I agree, And I think it's

(45:34):
just important to like recognize come from an empathetic point
of view whenever you like meet one of these people
in the wild, and just come from a place of
like understanding and just not like shame them or try
not to. Yeah. I think, Look, I think what we
need to do is we should create a space for
people to come see the light from Trump and look,
if you were once a supporter, if you can realize

(45:56):
you fuck up. I'm not saying, hey, you're canceled forever,
right because I wore bondage pants from I'm here now.
I just got rid of my puka shell necklace. Really,
I've been. I've been. I'm just disappointed that you got
rid of it because it looked so cool. It was
the one time I've been wrong, the one time right.
We'll get it on movie pass. We're gonna take a
quick break to talk about what bondage pants exactly entails,

(46:18):
and we'll be right back. And we're back, and this
might give you a little clue as to when we're
recording this. But so the Cohen story is evolving in

(46:39):
real time, and the New York Times and now saying
that he might be pleading guilty, but he might not
be cooperating. So and now it's just coming in that
mana Fort has been found guilty on eight of the
eighteen charges that he was charged with. Ten of them
are going to be called mistrial. So apparently there were

(47:01):
ten of the charges that the Jerry couldn't come to
an agreement on, but that's still guilty on eight. And
you know, we don't know. So Cohen is pleading guilty,
he may cooperate. There's also reports that he may not,
or that his cooperation isn't even needed any right, it
has no value to the Special counsel. So who knows

(47:23):
where Michael Cohen is. He's shopped his wares around. He said,
this is what I have is what I can. And
they're like, no, we already got that, already got that tape.
So it could be Mueller doesn't need him. It could
be Mueller doesn't want to make it clear that he
needs him, and like as he's building his case out,
we don't totally know. But the one thing that is,
you know, remarkable, is that these two close associates of

(47:48):
the president, Cohen and Manifort, are both now officially card
carrying guilty as criminals. Yeah, credentialed criminals is what they
will call them. All Right, we'll see. So ICE is
in the news trying to get some of that good
pub Yeah, by deporting Nazis. Yeah, they got a legit

(48:08):
Nazi who was a prison camp guard, which is objectively yes,
great years old, uh yep, sending him back to Germany.
And everyone's like, okay, Wow, I finally did a good thing.
But this is actually part of a much darker, bigger
policy that ICE has been implementing, which is trying to
de naturalize American citizens. And they've been going through like

(48:32):
up to cases thirty years old to try and find
a way of screwing people out of their actual citizenships.
So there have been cases of like this is a
version where de naturalization makes sense, like human rights violators, Nazis,
war criminals. Sure, I probably shouldn't be an American citizen,
but I mean think of how many American citizens there
are who are human rights anyway, that's a whole other thing.
But so normally that's reserved for the worst kind of people.

(48:55):
But now this is part of Trump's you know, administration
to create basically two classes of Americans. There's people who
were born in the US who are American citizens, and
then foreign born Americans who are now sort of like
second class citizens who are left to basically live in
fear of Like wait, are they really trying to just
take away the citizenship? Like, you know, having the permanence

(49:18):
of citizenship helps people feel, you know, secure, and give
you an identity and help you move on from whatever
it is you're trying to leave. And so this is
a very terrifying policy. And like, you know, their tales
of people who you know, like one woman was caught
up in a fraud scheme but cooperated like as a
witness to bring the fraud thing down and like helped

(49:39):
secure a conviction in this thing. And this before she
applied for citizenship. When she applied, everything was fine because
she wasn't charged of a crime or anything like that.
But I mean she was going to be, but she
avoided any kind of penalty for cooperating. So then ICE
went back through and they're like, wait, you're named in
this case. Oh so you're a criminal, and we're gonna
take away your citizenship someone who had been here for

(50:00):
seven years. So this is like a thing where now
they're trying to nitpick and find any way to take
away someone's naturalized citizenship. And they're doing it under two circumstances.
First is if they obtained their citizenship illegally, where they
actually didn't meet the legal requirements and they lied or
something like that, um or they or they just slipped
through the cracks and managed to get a citizenship. The

(50:21):
second is if they lied about or they they concealed
something during the application process that was actually relevant to
their case. So if they're you know, if they say, oh,
have you been charged with the crime or whatever, you
leave that blank, Oh what's going on here? Even if
it was something very small, they're now going back and
combing through there to try and find any little way
to try and take people's citizenship away. So it's just
a very sad policy, and you know it's it's leaving

(50:44):
these people verily just extremely vulnerable. And you know, it's
again another way we're moving the goal posts of what
an American is. It was first, you know, like if
you aren't white enough, that's not American. And then you
know that died out, and now it's like, well, even
if you're legally an American, are you really though because
you were four and born and now let's look through

(51:05):
there and and maybe take away your citizenship just a
ship policy. And are these all people that have passed
like the citizenship test. Yeah, these are people who have
who are like straight up American citizens, who are like
studied and even though like I was born in the
United States, they like know more about American history than
I did. Yes, exactly, all right, cool, but yeah, that's uh,
you know, I think it's in line with the terror

(51:28):
on immigrant populations are people who have immigrated to this country.
But yeah, I think it was just odd to see
they're like, oh I just got this guy. It's like, well,
you know, let's keep the think pieces up or the
coverage up of people who are like being aggressively de
natural but also like, so they got a Nazi. He's
ninety five, So how old was he when World War
Two was going on? Like, was he's a teenager? Like
early twenties? Was he like doesn't tell them? Do you

(51:49):
think he was a high ranking Nazi? Do you think
he was like someone who was No, there was a
guy who was pretty notorious that they deported like in
two thousand nine, who like was like whoa zomb zero
mg Nazi? But yeah, I mean this person was like
you know, like was like wanted they okay, okay, they
put it together like oh wait, that's okay, that's that's

(52:11):
old man Jenkins down the street exactly. This seems like
a part of the culture war where it's like, oh,
you're gonna call Ice Nazis. No Ice is deporting Nazi straightforward.
It's like a good optics thing, but under a policy
that is very fucked up. Because like even like my
mom is like a naturalized citizen too, So do you
think about like, you know, I don't know if she

(52:32):
wasn't doing anything sucked up or anything in the past,
but like I think it makes you think you're like, damn,
they're really trying to even go after people who have
been here, who have contributed, who are fully participated in
this thing called America. Do we know any data on
like which countries of origin they might be targeting specifically?
It seems like, I mean a lot of it has
been at least most of the stories that I had

(52:53):
read that were more like anecdotal pieces to like, you know,
go along with this idea of the de Naturalization Task
Force have been people from like Latin America, so I'm
from Africa. It all depends, I mean, if it's not
America as a shiphole, right, so it's not America or
contry Yeah, oh yeah, like Norway? Was that? Is that
what Kirsten Nielsen said? That one thing? It's like, well,

(53:13):
we'd love to have more Swedish immigrants or why would
they have healthcare? Why would they come here? So there
is a movement happening in the prisons of America. The
prisoners around the country are launching a nineteen day strike
to protest ultra low pey forced labor and just generally

(53:35):
poor conditions and prisons across the United States. If you've
seen thirteen or It's an amazing documentary that tells the
story of how a lot of the slave economy was
transferred to putting people in prison, and you know, people
of color in particular, and forcing them into labor, and

(53:58):
having an economy based on these prisons contracting out the
labor of their inmates. It's a great deal for companies
because they only have to pay them like cents per hour,
eighty five cents, twelve cents I've heard, or in some
states not at all, like in seventeen Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Texas,
they were not paid for most of their work. And yeah,

(54:20):
the thirteenth Amendment, you know, banned slavery and involuntary servitude,
and but it very clearly says except as punishment of crime,
whereof the party shall have been duly convicted. And that's
why a lot of people are going like, oh, so
you're just redefining slavery to be like, are you criminal?
And when you look at sort of the statistics of
like how our criminal justice system works, what we have

(54:41):
like less than five percent of the population and close
to one quarter of the world's prison population. So what
they are advocating for is something that needs to be addressed.
And when you look at two there were thousands of
prisoners in California were fighting the fucking fires as part
of like this work program. And the sad thing is,
like those work hours normally people would work in these

(55:02):
vocational programs would count towards a certification, but when you
are convict, you cannot get that certification. So it's almost
all from not for a lot of these inmates. And yeah,
the nineteen day strike is meant to end on the
anniversary of the Attica riots. Yeah, which was in seven
anniversary of the Attica prison right, So, and so this

(55:24):
is gonna be a work strike and also there will
be hunger strikes involved. Two is this going to be
across the entire country? I think it's yeah. There, I
mean a lot of people across multiple states. Yeah. Um,
but yeah, I mean it's again it's when you really
look at how our private prison system works, especially from

(55:44):
that user on eight chan, is that the privot prison industry. Yes,
this is a booming fucking industry where people have uh employees,
you pay eighty five cents an hour two uh to
do all kinds of things. And there are a lot
of companies to that benefit from prison labor, to like
Starbucks and other things like that. So, yeah, Russia has

(56:06):
been attempting to hack right wing think tanks. Uh This
will presumably allow both sides to claim that Russians are
trying to help the other guys. It's a right wing
think tanks who are hostile to Trump's message. Uh. So,
not totally clear why that would matter in the run
to the mid terms. But the most interesting thing to

(56:27):
me about this story is that Microsoft came with the announcement,
which puts them in the mix of like an international incident.
They're basically antagonizing Russia and all the hackers they have
working on their behalf, you know, because they could specifically
called out a hacker team that works for Putin. So
they're basically, you know, involving themselves in this war. But

(56:49):
I don't know, it seems smart to me because Microsoft
is sort of the lame, invisible fifth tech behemoth that
it's not as cool to complain about, and so they're
so is aiding their name with the side of solving
the problem as opposed to being the problem. So I
don't know, it'll be interesting to see how this plays out.
There was just a story with the fact that towns

(57:13):
that use Facebook more were more likely to have violence
against immigrants in Germany. And the study is pretty conclusive
saying that Facebook leads to violence against immigrants in Germany.
So you can be part of the solution or part
of the problem, and maybe this is a way that
you can convince some of these massive, powerful media behemoths

(57:34):
and tech behemoths to start doing good work. I wonder
if it was because they were also I know, like
those hackers were trying to replicate Microsoft sites, So like
if you use that's why they like Outlook for like
your work email or whatever, it's built on the Outlook
program or pro platform. Then they're like, oh, hold on, don't, don't,
don't look around with the Outlook. But yeah, I don't

(57:54):
I think that. I mean, it probably makes sense to
go after anti like never Trumper, you know, right think tanks,
because they'll probably have a hand in probably running counter
campaigns or publicity campaigns against you know, Trump rubber stamp
candidates in the mid terms. But yeah, I guess they
could also be their optics, you know, publicity strategy to say, oh,

(58:19):
we're not only going after people on the left, they
also go out for people on the right. So you
never know. We just want to They just want to
function up. Yeah, they could be helping the Democrats. I
don't really know. I don't know what do I know? Right,
So we'll see. We'll be keeping an eye on that. Jackie.
It has been a pleasure having you. Where can people
find you? Follow you, listen to you? Sure? So, I'm Jackie.

(58:40):
Is awesome on Instagram and Twitter. But I put a
U in between the W and the E on awesome,
So it's awesome. Um, something I did in tenth grade
just kind of stuck. And then also you can find
my podcast, Guilty Pleasure podcast. If you enjoyed my dulcet
tones during today's episode, you should listen to this week's
up to a Guilty Pleasure, which Jack and Miles are

(59:02):
on talking about the Golden Average talking to I'm Jack
and Miles, and you guys gave us a great conversation
about the golden era of hip hop, which is awesome. Actually,
in the process of making a playlist based on all
your recommendations, when I was editing it, I was literally
like keeping notes of all the things you guys were doing,
and I was like, I gotta make this into a playlist.
I'll probably do it today. Um so, yeah, Guilty Pleasure

(59:25):
podcast and yeah on the Internet, they're awesome. And is
there a tweet that you've been enjoying. Yeah, there's a
tweet that I just enjoyed that I pulled up a
second ago and it was from John Gabriels and it
was sometimes I wish I had a day job. Then
I realized, I don't know if I can handle my
coworkers watching me eat an entire cold roasted chicken over

(59:46):
the garbage can every day for lunch over carfetail cold
roasted chicken. We've all done that. I mean, yeah, who
hasn't all been there? Folks? Miles where can people find you?
Follow you? And what's that you've been enjoying? Friend following
me on Twitter and Instagram? It miles of gray and

(01:00:09):
tweet that I like is from at shy pixel. Roses
are read truth is truth, rape is rape? Funck at
real Donald Trump? Uh, that's from that. I just like
aggressive roses are red tweets. Yeah, I told you we
can find me. Yeah, and then uh yeah, check out
Guilty Pleasures. We got to talk about Jack and I
favorite time in hip hop and by the merch te

(01:00:32):
public was that like two thousand and seventeen whenever Gucci
Gang came out, right, that is just that those few
weeks after Gucci Game came out, Gucchiga Gucci Gang tweet
I've been enjoying us from Katie Golden, who is the
human behind the Twitter account birds rights activists. She tweeted,
if you had told me five years ago that one

(01:00:53):
day I would be a ten foot tall princess who
could command the obedience of any tiger by holding it
in my gaze to sipe and its soul into my
perfect red eyes, I would never believed. You follow your
dreams and kneel before my army of tigers. Uh. And
you can follow me on Twitter at Jack Undersquare O'Brien.
You can follow us at daily Zeygeist on Twitter, where

(01:01:14):
at the Daily Zeygeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook
pampage on the website daily zygeist dot com where we
post our episodes and our footnote or link off to
the information in the episode that we just talked about.
You can find the footnotes in the description of the episode.
So if you're whatever you're listening to us on, just
go to the episode look at the Informed mathion. Uh,

(01:01:36):
and you will see links to sources of the stuff
we're talking about. Uh, Miles. Yeah. We also link off
to the song that we ride out on and you're
about to tell us about that is Yes, this is
a track from own Raw, who's uh you know, a
little beatmaker, but this has like more of a vapor
wave feel to it. A vapor wave is kind of
like imagine you're in a haunted mall from the eighties. Uh,

(01:02:00):
what the music was sound like in there? It's very
like synthy but spooky, and this says that little synth
vibe to it. I feel like I'm in an eight
bit version of a Lamborghini puntosh driving through the City
of Lights or something like that. It's just it's a
very visual piece. And look, if you don't like that
eight sound, just go away because this is the link.
This is secretly yes by own Rock and Alexander Michael

(01:02:23):
gave me that Shaggy I can I feel that it's
not this fault, but I am no shaggy. Uh Cool.
We're going to ride out on that. We will be
back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast by your Love.

(01:03:19):
When it's your love. When it's h h you love

(01:04:41):
your love. This tempts Toto Totos

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