March 22, 2018 • 63 mins
In episode 110, Jack & Miles are joined by comedian Ryan Singer to discuss the google trends, deep state that seems to be the cause of all problems in the world, Mark Zuckerberg's crap apology, Sean Penn's new dystopian novel, & more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to the season twenty three
episode four day for March two thousand eight. Team, my
name is Jack O'Brien ak Bohemian Jacksony courtesy of a
K got Chapman Rights, and I am joined by my
co host, Mr Miles Gray right ak the Blazing power
Granger because I watched the New Power Rangers movie last
(00:23):
night and was so disappointed. I don't even know. I
thought I would I wouldn't be, but this is what
happens when it's late at night, you can't sleep and
ship is on Amazon Pride. All right, we are thrilled
to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious
comedian Mr Ryan Singer. Hey, how you doing a K
Salvador Doll leagues. I paint pictures with my words and
knock you out with my verbs. That's I came up
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with that when I was fourteen, and I've been holding
you were MC and fourteen. Yeah, I was empty in
and uh you know in Dayton, Ohio at all Catholic school. Uh,
just you know, wishing to escape. Stan is a very
musical town. Yeah, it actually so much funk music as
originated out of Dayton's got a great music scene. Um,
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what Catholic school in Dayton? I went to St. Albert
the Great Grade School and then I went to Altar
High School. Yeah, that's that's where I would have gone
had I stayed in Dayton. I lived in Centerville. Oh yeah, okay,
a long time. Five years. Uh, you probably would have
heard tales about me, you know, you know, so you've
probably heard of me that actually there was a there was.
(01:28):
I guess it's kind of timely. There's a walkout policy
at my high school because of me, because I UM,
I organized a walkout when I was in high school
my junior year over what a couple of friends of
mine got arrested for having paraphernalia in their car, but
it was off school property. So my grounds for protests
were legal search and seizure and the uh. And so
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I organized a walk out and maybe only twenty five
kids joined me. And ever since then they've they've had
a no walkout policies in school. Okay, well, didn't know
we was such a leader activist. Not nothing is like
you know, dramatic or as needed as you know what
these kids nowadays are doing, right, but they're like, you know,
they took my my homie's bomb. Yeah, there's yeah, different different. Well,
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my family was run out of that town really on
a rail. Yeah. My dad was a basketball coach for
University of Dayton and they were really bad the last
couple of years and we got the whole h wait,
your your dad, Jim O'Brien. Yeah, yeah, are you kidding me?
My dad would be My dad would be pooping his
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pants right now that I'm hanging out with the son
of coach O'Brien. Oh my god. But we got the
first sale signs on the front yard and everything I did,
all right, your dad did all right after you got
you guys got run of town. NBA. Are you serious? Yeah?
I love how you remember, Like, man, I remember egg,
I remember well, when you grow up in Dayton, like
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uti basketball is big bonkers. It's like, you know, they've
been selling out their arena for decades and uh, they've
always had like teams that are like good enough to
make the Double A tournament but never good enough to
like really win at all. But like but they still
believe like that they're Cinderella. Oh man, that's crazy. Yeah, well,
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and that's some of my best years in Dayton. Was
it that was it crazy like that was like you
were legit just being harassed or it's just kind of
like that's not that didn't like define our time that
it was just ugly at the end because you know,
he was gonna be on the front page of the
sports page and people were calling for him to get fired,
and uh, you know as a twelve year old, that's
You're like, why are they being dad? He's doing the best.
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He was super Like I lived and died with every
one of the wins, so I took it pretty hard.
But you know, it's like in people in Dayton don't
want to accept the fact that, guess what not a
lot of eighteen year old kids who are the best
at what they do want to live go to a
Catholic college. Right. It's like, you know, they have this
delusion that they think that like we should be getting
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the best place, attracting the best they tried to although
I guess I should. We could have got that Lebron
James guy. Yeah, we should move on to non Daton
basketball because that that is not the subject of this podcast.
We'll talk off the Dayton State. The Dayton State exactly, Ryan,
what is something from your search history that is revealing
bad who you are. Oh man, this is super embarrassing.
(04:34):
This happened to me a few months ago. I had
to google, um how to breathe? I had I forgot
the word rectangle. Wow, as like I really forgot what
the word rectangle is and I had to google. It's embarrassing.
I had to google two sides equal in length longer
than other two? Ship love that? How did that come about? Long? Yes?
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Where that's what I You're just making up? It's longy.
I remember at the time, it's like it's like when
a square is quarter horst like I was. But the
it's more embarrassing. Why I thought why I needed to
recall the word it was um. I had been researching
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astrology for like years right then, and I had just
I thought I had This is crazy. I thought I
had channeled source right And it was like three in
the morning, and I was like, geometry astrology. No one's
done a geometry astrology system, and they probably have, by
the way, but until my God, it will be great.
You know, everybody will know what shape they are and
how they fit into the world around them, you know
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what I mean, Like some people will be a circle,
some people will be a square, some people will be
a rhombus. I can see that, and then I couldn't remember.
That's when I was like, and some people that's a
little Caesar's pizza box, and I couldn't remember. Yeah, yeah,
you're really a prophet, bro. You can't remember the word
wrecking the like like Jesus shouldn't remember the work forgiveness,
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you know, like the thing that's key to the message,
Like what do you see in me? Master Ryan? Oh?
You my child are a um hold on the two
sides are definitely longer than the other. It's like a
headshot but it fell over, Like all right, I think
I'm gonna leave your van a church. I don't pay
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taxes because it's at mobile church. What is something you
think is underrated? Eggnog? Wow? I know these are controversial opinions,
but such an appropriate time on this middle end of
Mark right, there's always see this is the problem. This
is a result of the underrated nous of eggnog, thinking
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that it's only a holiday, end of the year type drinks.
It is one of the most delicious drinks and not granted,
you cannot be drinking eggnog all the time because it's
not good for you. It remarkably bad. And I make
my own eggnogge at home. I've taken to it. It
tastes like a melted sugar cookie. It's so good, one
of the most under and you can add any booze
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to it, and if you want, I make it alcohol
free and let you know the person. Peppermint vodka is
very good. Some people do bourbon, some people do rum,
some people do brandy. Yeah, I've always had it with
brandy or Knak and things like that, and with peppermint
is very good. And eggnog I like jamison as well. Wait,
so how did you what happened when you became a
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die hard eggn August? Well, I just loved it as
a kid, probably cause there's so much sugar in it. Yeah,
it's like drinking melted ice cream. Yeah, I think I've
somehow mentioned this on the show before. But like when
you look at Starbucks, like Holiday, uh latte's the pumpkin
spice and like all the other one gingerbread, like all
those ones that are like sweet and like have a
different flavor. Uh have you know, like three hundred more
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calories than a normal latte, And then the eggnog has
like six It's just like eggnog is like next level.
It's like a milkshake and then they put egg yolks
in it. It's just like next level. That is next
level the bodybuilders treat I do think like if we're
going to be indulgent, like you might as well go
full out, like hardcore indulgent. I had one of my
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buddies went home over Christmas break in college and came
back and he had like a third chin, like just
like a neck layer of fat. And he had been
like a very thin guy, and he was like, I
just wanted to see how much weight I could gain
on eggnog. And apparently that ship works. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,
he's just like that now. So he's like, yeah, how
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much I could gain off egg That's actually not the
crazy I've I've heard other tales of these eggnog weight
gain challenges. Yeah, and it's it's one of the probably
best things to you know, gain a lot of weight.
You know, what's the worst of those cheap shitty eggnog
at the store, Like there's levels to store bought egg now,
like they're kind of sort of generic version not really
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feeling if I see something remotely artis and I'm going
for it because there's all there's all. There's pumpkin egg. Now,
there's all kinds of egg. Now, there's soy, there's there's
there's everything. But I mean straight classic egg. Not give
me the class act, just but half and half in
a blender with three eggs and some not egg and
then like you know those big bricks of sugar that
you get it, just all of that. My problem started
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because there was a grocery store in my hometown as
a kid that I discovered sold it year round. Oh.
This place was it was like a um, you know,
privately owned, like little grocery store in the neighborhood. Um.
And this place called Dorothy Lane Market. I'll give them
a shot up. They sold it year round. I lost
my mind. Yeah, and I was the one that they
probably stopped it for. That's why I can't You didn't
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remember why with the name of directing. Yeah, too much
in there. AND's something you think is overrated chocolate? Chocolate
is well, I have I have two things written down here.
I have chocolate and then also individuality. Individuality. Um, I
do think individuality is overrated. But um, but chocolate I
think is a lie told by you know, big chocolate. Um,
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you know Big Chocolate has sold us this lie, you know,
And I don't know. I just never like chocolate. Maybe
my mom ate too much of it when she was
pregnant with me or something, but I just never liked
it unless peanut butter. Just never like chocolate. Never like
chocolate and peanut butter though, yeah if peanut butter. Person,
have you ever had a linch truffle? I don't know.
I don't think I have. Like, well, there is a cavey.
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I mean, I'm a hypocrite everything I say or do,
so I can admit this. I do love hot chocolate.
And I love hot chocolate because it doesn't taste like
chocolate really, but it's got like a buttery nest to it,
Like yeah, definitely more milk on the milky. Yeah. But
like chocolate ice cream, Oh, gag me with a spoon,
as the kids would say. The kids always say, I
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actually agree with chocolate ice cream. I'm not crazy about
chocolate cake, chocolate cake, chocolate chocolate, I fucking you dog
whistling now what chocolate to actually chocolate? I love chocolate, um,
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And then quickly individuality just in five words or less.
What's wrong with individuality? It keeps us from realizing and
we are all one, we are all great, they are
all on E were all one, we are all on
Hey that works too, uh? And then what is a myth?
What's something that most people think is true that you
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know to be false. So I've also written down a
couple of examples because I don't know if one of
them classifies as a myth. But I will say this, Um,
I don't know how popular of a myth is that
vulnerability creates connection. I was listening. I was on a
delta flight and if I can say that, and I
was listening to a Ted talk by Burnet Brown, who
it's a great Ted talk. You actually can't say Ted talk, Okay, sorry.
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I was listening to Edward Edward Talk, and so I
listened to like the second half of it, and it
was like very moving. So I like, just in it
loops on their radio, on their little So I'm just
listening to it again and then like it's so moving
and powerful that I start crying on this flight. And
I'm on a window, see because I love the window,
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and I look next to me, there's a woman, uh,
sitting next to me and I and I'm like bawling,
and she obviously knows I'm crying and uh. And I
looked to her and I say vulnerability, you know what
I mean? And then she did not connect with me,
and she got the funk out of it. She st
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do you have anyone who would switch with yeah? Because
I obviously I didn't, you know, in the moment, realized
that she was not listening to the Ted talk. So
I'm just some like guy who looks like me crying. Look,
you know, yes, in the air. And I've never felt
more persons away. I never said I wasn't. That's not
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what I'm saying. That's my experience with that one. Also,
the wine bottle with the shoe that you can open
if you don't have a crew, that's yes, yoh. I
tried that once when I was working a campaign in
like I forget where the funk I was. I was
living in a hotel and I got a bottle of
wine and I couldn't get it. All I know wine
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ky and I tried that version fucking busted the wine
bottle like I sucked it up. But I saw a
video of someone doing right, it's bogus, I think, because
you shake the foundation of whatever you're like, like if
you're in a hotel or something, everyone's like what he
came and like they came into a guy with a
broken wine bottle over and I didn't have a win.
And also Chupacabra, I don't believe in Chupacabra. You don't.
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Chupacabra is younger than Miley Cyrus the son of all
like the cryptids that you know, and I'm like into that,
and it's a resident crypto. Chupacabra. I'm not on board
with the Chupacabra is younger the Miley. Based on like
some local news like misunderstandings and ship. Yeah, it's from
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like the nineties, but I'll tell you what, it's got
a good PR team. Yeah you said you was sucking
all those goats for not specific? Is that what it is?
See See, I'm getting a bunch of bunk information. I
looked froward for my seventeen years there and that will
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end now, thank you, Ryan. All right, let's get into
what is trending on our global shared consciousness right now.
For that, we look to Google trends, uh and the
number two trending thing right now in the world. We
can't talk about the number one trending thing because it
is Trump free Thursdays. Yeah, shout out Shannon Coffee with
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that drop. So number two most trending thing is the
world's largest collection of ocean garbage. Garbage island is now
twice the size of Texas. This is the Pacific Gyre,
Pacific garbage sort of. I like how they call it
the large collection of ocean like it almost makes it glamorous. Yeah,
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it's a fucking just a hideous. It's it's the worst
of humanity in the Pacific Ocean, right And it's like you're, yeah,
you were saying, like, do you know have any idea
how long it takes to drive across Texas and you
get to drive like seventy five on the freeway. I
had to do it a bunch of times just from
being on the road, and it is it's awful so much.
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It's interesting that the garbage in the ocean like kind
of collects together and turns into a big island. But
the garbage in space like has a tendency to like,
you know, shatter because it like runs into each other
and it's moving faster than the speed of a bullet.
So it's just tons of tiny pieces of garbage in space,
just a layer. I mean, I guess we don't really
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garbage get rid of it either, Nah, just make it big.
Well no, not the not the space garbage. There is
a multimillion dollar fund being put together to clean up
the garbage patch that was started by I think a
teenager and like one of the Nordic countries was just
like man, that fucking sucks and started like collecting funding
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and I think he's up up to thirty five million
dollars and they're like atting putting a group together to
clean up the giant, horrible garbage patch. And so they
went out and kind of studied it and it turns
out it's fort commercial fishing nets discarded. Yeah, so apparently
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that's a thing that happens a lot with commercial fishing
boats as they just like cut net. They're just like
ship we gotta get. Yeah. I wonder if there's wild
I live living on this. Yeah, I'm telling you to
imagine it's like an equally it's only ecosystem. I'm glad
the plan isn't like, let's just burn it like you
could imagine that just drop a bomb on it. The
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planet Earth too, has a whole uh episode that's about
cities and like animals learning to live around human cities. Um,
that's pretty interesting worth checking out. But do you think
they're doing that with this garbage? Yeah, they're resourced. My
hope is that in the Olympics, the garbage and will
have a team Olympic team that they can send out
there to compete one of the dopest things. Okay, so
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I was gonna I'm thinking what the flag would be,
just like a rapper, right right, it's right. Who would
be the captain of the the garbage team? I wish
it would be Captain Ron but Russell, Kurt Russell would
reprise his role for it doesn't really make sense. But yeah,
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I like that he's carrying the net, he's walking him
out or the who's the muppet in the trash can
oh oscar He's like the prime Minister of trash Island.
I don't know if he was like he didn't know
what his event would be. Yeah, just fucking bothering people
who walk by. Although he walks now he like he's
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out of the camp. Yeah, he got out of the can,
like on a recent episode of Sesame Street and like
walked down the street and they just like showed his legs.
I was like, oh no, they atrophied like bed sores,
and just like, yeah, he's he's seeking medical care because
the wounds are faster. He needs the legs to be amputated.
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He's like living in a garbage can. Yeah, well, oscars out,
I will I refuse to look at that. That would
You saw my face when he said that. I was
genuinely in shock when I heard that. I would see
Oscar out of the camp? No, yeah, yeah, no, yeah,
they don't need muppets have legs now. They when we
were kids, they just didn't show them from belly button
down and also realistic human genitalia. Yeah on the Muppets, right,
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they don't have that. I was like because I thought,
I was like, are you sure you weren't watching? Don't
hug me. I'm scared. Have you seen that? No, I'm
telling YouTube. It's like this adult Muppets and it's so trippy.
It's it's really wild. Um alright. Also trending, Owen Wilson
is trending because he caused the evacuation of a Miami hotel. Yeah,
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because he smoked a cigarette inside. I mean, who smokes
a cigarette indoor anywhere? Anymore scummy? And I think only
a celebrity would do, Like fuck it, I'm just the
money to pay for the fee. Yeah. Because also, yeah,
like it set off to learn they had to evacuate
the hotel and then apparently like it was caught on
camera of like him and his like whatever his date
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he was with there like dancing in the hall was
like the alarm goes out. Yeah, um wow, it's crazy.
It's crazy that. Uh yeah, that that's like what being
a badass celebrity is now. Sinatra used to be able
to like murder a person in a hotel room like loudly,
and people just be like a Frank frank Off hotel
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like fucking own Wilson cigarettes broom. Yeah, but I think
it's probably progress that that we're we're we're of course
clearly murdering someone is the worst. Ben Affleck's back tattoo.
We have to talk about it. We've been ignored a
long time, but it's time to talk about it. Because
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we saw a picture of it. I saw a picture
of it earlier this week. Uh, I've not slept since
it's I don't know what to make of this tattoo
because it's just wild Man still aggressive that phoenix is.
I gotta tell you, I love phoenix is I love
dragon like creature And I can't say I'm I do
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wonder when he got it, Like what the state was? Yeah,
where was he when he got Was it pre Batman?
Was it? Like? Because you know, is that when he
had the time to this is an elaborate probably took
a long time to get done, right, Yeah, like this
this is a three day tattoo. Like it's one of
those ones that like you have to go back and
get touched up and well it's crazy. Like two years
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ago apparently like there was a picture of him shirtless
where it like they showed the tattoo and he told
Mario Lopez it was fake, and Mario Lopez was like, yeah,
that makes sense, dude. Yeah, it's like all you got
fake tattoo too. Sometimes I use those sleeves that you
can buy that you just oh yeah, this shitty, fucking
lame tattoo. Oh yeah, that's fake it at entertainment tonight.
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Ye wait to see how one of those are. Sorry,
he also has some kind of deal with Satan because
he doesn't age. Yeah, just completely dead behind the eyes.
You know, he had to get since it is a phoenix,
he had to have gotten it in Phoenix, in Phoenix
after his career revived. Yeah, right right, So it was
like a symbol like I think probably once he got
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what really what would you say was the benchmark that
brought back his town was like where it's like, yeah,
he's to me, He's always just kind of hovered in
the same space and like whatever. Man that affleck was
like a laughing stock. It was like I wonder, I
wonder if man Damon returns his phone calls. And then
he came back as a director and we were like,
all right, he has some talent and then now he's
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you know, so the town was his cop Land, I
think like Stallone's Copland and pulp fiction, like, so the
town do you think? Yeah, I think this tattoo is
probably right after Argo, right after he won the oscar. Yeah, yeah,
that's probably true. I'm back, baby, don't everybody? Do you
think he had like the goth Kid's notebook that he
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took that from with him and he was just like yeah,
or did he describe it from this feels generic. I
don't know, it looks like it feels like a goth
kid's notebook as interpreted by the people who did the
Trapper Keeper art for literally, like you know, it's like
very clean cut the trap of Keeper designers. Okay, no,
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I think they're geniuses. All right, let's take a quick break.
We'll be right back, and we're back. And we wanted
to talk about the deep state, something something that is
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really becoming a problem right now. I mean, look, the
deep State, from what I'm reading, is responsible for most
of the world's problems. Uh, you know, from there was
like I think, what last year there was a congressman,
formal congressman in Texas who was basically caught like funneling
money into a charity of his own creation and it
was facing criminal charges for that, but the deep State,
(23:47):
uh framed him. You know. I think most recently we
found out that the deep State was also responsible for
Ben Carson's dining room set. Really yeah, yeah, it doesn't
know about that. It was because I knew they were
busy like taking the whoever currently is down But no, no, no,
you're bro. They've got eyes everywhere. You think it's right,
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my man, there they got their hands in everything. So
the reason everything this stuff is because recently there was
a poll that came out they said about forty seven
percent of Americans, uh, they believe that the deep state
probably exists. Seven percent said that the deep state definitely exists.
Now I understand like conceptually that there are forces at
work that we can't quite articulate through what we see
in the mainstream news or whatever, and like they're powerful
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lobbying groups and other things that at work that can
you know, shift policy and things like that. Yeah, like
there are bureaucrats who aren't subject to election who you know,
have a lot of influence and even some of them
are in intelligence and probably real shady motherfucker's Ryan, weren't
you saying that, like there's a big chunk of the
annual budgets that just like goes into a black hole
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and just disappears, and like Congress and everywhere like like well,
we just don't know where it goes, but it goes,
you know, it goes into all these like you know,
secret defense programs and things like that. So, I mean,
my problem with this whole deep state thing being thrown
around like, you know, like they used to like, oh
thanks Obama, like they used to do back the news.
You know, it's like there, it's diminishing, like the realness
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of something, right exactly. So cut to this Congress when
Claudia Tenny, who represents a district and upstate New York
she was recently she called into a radio show and
just listen to her basically blaming the deep state for
Ben Carson's problems with somebody in the deep State. It
was not one of his people apparently ordered a table
like a conference room table or whatever it was, for
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a room and that's what the cost was. When bed
Carson tried to he said, you know how hard it
is to turn it back because of the um the
way that the chairman happened. She sounds like she took
all those sleeping pills right before starting that. I mean
she CLUDI Tenny has she has hot takes to say
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the least. I mean, she was like, you know, she
claimed to know how hard it is to turn turn
it back return something that you bought online. That's like
the whole point of online. But Ben said that apparently
apparently you can't. I don't know, no, sorry, man did
you just fall asleep. No, but yeah, so what's funny
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is like Ben Carson though this week he testified and
was talking about it, he threw his fucking wife under
the bus. He's like, my wife decided that we needed
it and that you know, I just don't. It was wild.
Also just see him pass the buck. Although there were
fucking emails like through uh Freedom of Information uh Act request,
they were able to get like emails and the correspondence
is clear him and his wife were looking at and like,
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oh not get this one. So, like you're saying, the
deep state is basically for some people become like the
default way too. It's just like a really shitty debate
tool is just to be like, nah's deep state, Like
that's it. It's just the deep state, like without explaining,
like this fits a pattern, especially lot of cabinet members
that Trump has appointed having like a really bad habit
of fucking balling out on the taxpayer's dime. So deep
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state though, deep deep state. Yeah. I think you're right though,
that it will become the go to like hipster joke
the way that thanks a lot Obama, or like calling
someone a comedy like before that, like where a joking thing.
But it is a little concerning, right because when you
look at those statistics and clearly like we are a
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lot of this misinformation ship. And I think just generally
the way, because our government runs so inefficiently, people are
left to try and explain for themselves what the funk
is going on or explain their own situation. And I
think for some people the deep state has become like
a legitimate way that they're explaining, like why the things
they want to happen aren't happening. I think you can
just I mean, we can call what it is. For
a lot of these people who are you know, in
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who are convinced that the deep state is real, let's
just say what it is. They think it's the it's
a it's a synonym for illuminati, brought new world order,
things like that, you know, the powerful elite the control everything.
And that's not to say that you know, the richest
people in the world do have a vested interest in
working of course, and so when you have people throwing
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around the deep state for like dinner wear or a
conference table or like, you know, what it really does
is it deflects and it really uh diminishes the realness
of like the problem that maybe with this actual deep state,
if in fact that it is as powerful as some
people think. Right, it seems like for right now, a
lot of conservatives are using it as the career like
(28:35):
like federal you know, a law enforcement people who are
just shining a light on someone's business because you're not
still say somebody's name. But yeah, like that, I mean, yeah,
it's just frustrating because the people who are really angry
about the deep State are the same people who's you know,
the things they're fighting for are basically dictated by the
Koch brothers like ten years ago to like their political Yeah.
(28:58):
Well because but like they say, the distribution is pretty
equal among Democrats and Republicans. Yeah, so I'm sure it's
just like you know, the man like my grandparents were
really thinking about we're talking about the Illuminati years ago
because they were like, you know, Beyonce and jay Z
and my grandparents said that ship to me and I
was like, and I said, what what do you mean
by that? And they're like, well, they made a deal
with with Satan And I was like, Grandma, what is it?
(29:21):
Collie is a big one. Uh. The female like got
us the I don't know. To me, it's all pretty
it's pretty fascinating stuff. But like there's uh, I mean,
there's just so many wormholes that open up and rabbit
holes they open up. And unfortunately there's so many people
who you know have a microphone, uh, that are very popular, right,
(29:42):
or that have a lot of people listening to them.
One of them, we won't name, another one of them
has a you know, like and so everyone instead of
taking any responsibility for oneself, yeah, and understanding that when
everyone talks about they like they're they're out to get us,
that we're all complicit in this like in this like society,
like there's they is a tiny part of every single
one of them, right, is what I truly believe. But um,
(30:04):
so it really shirk's responsibility for any personal accountability on
all this stuff. Yeah, somebody described it, I think talking
about Cambridge Analytica, but they described overall the experience of
propaganda today as you know, someone shouting in your ear
with a megaphone except nobody around you can hear it.
So like, we don't know what propaganda you've been exposed to, um,
(30:27):
because you know you happen to be listening to you know,
whatever media diet you have selected for yourself for you know,
your algorithms or Facebook has has selected for you. That's
like specifically designed to your preferences. It's like specifically designed
to be appealing to you. Um, but so what your
(30:50):
beliefs are informed by are like people around you don't know,
and it's really hard to monitor. One of the things
that I really took from this, like you know, like
the Russians and the Cambridge Analytica and all this, is
that how are people getting Facebook ads to work? Like
I have been I have been putting money into Facebook
ads like they work, right, Like they figured out how
(31:13):
to get Facebook ads to work, like they figured I guess,
like to me. And then like also obviously it's it's
much more than making a joke. But like as far
as like stealing data and harvesting information from people, I mean,
maybe you should use fear based advertising. Maybe I should,
like I should, maybe I should pulling it Alex Jones
and tell everybody that their kids are gonna you don't
if you don't buy it, your children's testicles ovaries. That's
(31:38):
the end of America to transpastites raise your children, all right.
It's like what. Yeah, it's like, okay, let's relax, but
I guess I will be buying his book now. Yeah.
I hadn't realized that he was now targeting the person
who took the video of the gray dash charger like
going into the crowd of protesters in Charlottesville. Alex Jones
(31:58):
has now like insto everybody that that person is a
deep state operative. The guy who took the video took
the video. It was just down there, you know, being
a counterprotester, like just a young person who had like
he had been in I think the Peace Corps or
one of those you know, America or America or something
like that, and so he had gone to other countries
(32:19):
to volunteer and they're like see he's like he's doing
global He's had him in Africa. It's really piss his
mouth because as a guy who over the years has
been into certain conspiracy theories and things like that, I mean,
the origin of conspiracy theory being created by the CIA
or whatever, like not everything, not every conspiracy theory is
(32:39):
total bs and not and obviously they're not all true either,
But now as a dude who used to be into
some of this stuff, like now everything is a conspiracy
theory immediately when it happened. But every single thing is
because of this maniac, right, Like it's not like the
shell casing hasn't even hit the floor before Alex Jones
is saying christis actor. Right, It's like, dude, you are
(33:04):
killing you're you're killing us. And he'll use the defense
that he's a performance actor killing us and killing in
terms of traffic and his nutraceutical sales, like he makes
a fortune on I thought he's not doing well though
right now, well with advertisers. I think he's not doing well.
But I think he's making money off the nutrics because
I know he's getting hit with other lives. He's got
(33:24):
a piece of the bunker companies, you know, like you know,
survival bunker, Like, yeah, I just bought. When you are
court ordered to pay close to what fifty dollars a
month and child support, you're killing it, you know what
I mean? No performance artist would ever be able to
afford fifty dollars a year if they're lucky, if you're
a performance artist. Right, So that is one thing to note.
(33:47):
He doesn't believe any of this. Ship. He goes into
court and he's like I'm an artiste and this is
a character that I play named Alex Jones. He happens
to have the same name as me. He does not
have the same beliefs as me. Have you heard that exactly? Yeah? Um,
but he is getting sued, uh this time not by
(34:07):
his ex wife but by the guy who took the
video in Charlottesville because his life has been completely ruined
by Alex Jones. And Alex Jones. So it's gotta like
Steve Bartman on crack, it's gotta be times write what
he's done to this guy. And he only piste off
Chicago Cubs fans. So, like, imagine when you get that whole.
Did you ever see the movie The Circle? M hmm,
(34:28):
it's about social media group and it's got Tom Hanks
and Emma Watson speaks. Yeah, it kind of speaks to this.
But uh, the like the idea that like you can
destroy someone's life by shining your lens on them. Uh,
it is such a it's a reality that we're living in. Yeah. Yeah,
And it's sad because the people who are creating the
(34:50):
sort of platforms to do this, I seem to not
really understand what they have created or what their role
is in creating these. So Mark Zuckerberg emerged from the
mists where wherever he was just laying low for the
past five days, and what's in his like residentiary where
he bought like the nine houses around him. Um, and
(35:11):
he's a buffer zone as he does it right, which
would be so creepy if like all your neighbors were
just empty houses. Yeah, I think like homies lived there.
But he definitely was like He's like, I'm gonna buy
half this neighborhood. I don't want anybody looking at me. Wow.
He really appreciates privacy. Weird. Um, So he came out
and was like, uh, you know, he acknowledged that what
(35:36):
they did was a problem, and that he you know,
said that they're working to fix the problem. He never
said we're sorry, because I'm sure legally like his lawyers
were like, you do not say anything that indicates culpability.
But there was this one passage in his interview with
The New York Times where he was like, are there
(35:57):
other Cambridge Analytica is out? There were there apps which
could have gotten access to more information and potentially sold
it without us knowing, or done something that violated people's trust.
We also need to make sure we get that under control.
So he like asked these questions that like we're all
asking him, and she's just like, I'll answer that question
(36:17):
with another question. Should like answer that question with the
question your question? Ryan? Do you think there are other
Cambridge analytic is out there that are using people's data
in nefarious ways? Well? I think we have to ask ourselves, Ryan,
are there other companies out there, like Cambrage Analytics are
using I just asked you a yes or no question,
(36:39):
my man? Yeah's And it's so reactive to like every
like the ship is like like we're gonna do a
full forensic analysis of like all of our data. Blah
blah blah. It's like, asshole, you need to be telling
people about what you are doing now to prevent ship
like this happening and saying more about rather than like, yeah,
we're gonna have to look into that and get that
(36:59):
on nder control. Like it's not like a problem floor
of a dorm where you're like, yeah, we're gonna look
into I hear those kids are partying. We're gonna wak
into that. It's like fifty million people. Who knows if
that's even the actual number fifty million people's data is
like just being used for whatever the people can. We
also like just mentioned stop taking personality quizes like you
(37:23):
don't know what house you're in and uh, like the
Harry Potter World. You know, you're a huff Uff, You're
a Miranda and you're in your heart, you know Leonardo
unfortunately Leonardo and a Blue Ranger, and you're not None
of you are Lion l none of you are lyon
l Um. He also did this sort of false modesty
(37:46):
thing where he was like, I mean when I was
making Facebook in my dorm room, like I could never
have imagined that I'd be talking about like elections. It's like, dude,
you easily if I had that kid here right now,
you as a fresh when at Harvard and was like, Yo,
you're gonna be talking about elections, he'd be like, yeah,
funk right, I am. Everyone is gonna be everyone in
(38:06):
the fucking world is going to use this and then
but not for elections. Yeah. The way he really kind
of threw his hands up, like because it was whiny
almost the way like if you really like, what's that
interview on CNN? Because the way he's like, because the
delivery was like, if you told me in two thousand four,
I would have to like be talking about election integrity,
(38:28):
Like fuck you, like just sucking you. You You have
like the equivalent of the followers of like one of
the most massive religions on Earth. But we're going by
show volume of users like over two billion people. Yeah,
you kind of have that fucking responsibility, Like I'm supposed
to have to talk to you people when I'm the
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one of the richest guy in the world. And the
words of Don Draper, that's what the fucking money is for, right, Like, yeah,
you get all that money that there's something that we
exchange for that you need to like work really hard
to like help us out. You don't just get to
like sit back and be lucky and like win the lottery. Um,
(39:09):
I mean I understand like why that you know, it's
lucrative to sell this data. And clearly that just got
so out of hand that now we're at this point
we're like whoa, whoa, whoa, what the funk are you
doing with all this information? And like now we really
have this sort of conversation now was like how much
insight is too much insight? Like that clearly, you know
commerce and capitalism will function without these like hyper targeted
(39:30):
advert advertisements and things like that. And where is like
the line now, because now Congress is like, Yo, get
your ass over here and answer some fucking questions and
don't just answer my question with the question I just
asked you, right, Um, Yeah, I feel like they need
we're talking about black hats and white hats, like get
getting white hat hackers who will like work on exposing
(39:52):
flaws like this ahead of time. I feel like they
need to be spending you know when they talk about
like releasing a movie you and like equal to the
production budget on advertising it. I feel like these companies
need to spend equal to whatever they're operating budget is
on trying to like find vulnerabilities and think like somebody
trying to exploit their product once they get that big,
(40:14):
Like that's where they need to be thinking because that's
their responsibility and they're not going to do that on
their own. The government needs to like find them to
such a degree that they have to think of these
solutions themselves and like be proactive. But they're not going
to get proactive just by us being like shame on you,
Like it's they need to see actual you know, monetary
(40:38):
consequence or people like being like, oh, you delete your
Facebook in your Instagram and all this. What's crazy to
me is that like people are even talking about like, well,
I guess I'll just be on Twitter then, like as
if Twitter is the better one and see. Unfortunately, the
easiest solution to all of this is the most difficult
for people to get social media. It's just I mean,
you know, whether you know, I mean, I think it's
(40:59):
kind of ironic that he, you know, has these nine
empty houses around him, that he's so disconnected from people
when like he's got the thing that supposedly connected to
us all the most, right, But the easiest way is
to just get get off Facebook and get off these
like I'm trying to remember. But it's like it's not
a new statement, Like there's nothing free, right, So anytime
(41:21):
you sign up for free something you're giving away. You know,
you're surrendering your soul as it were. But so, I mean,
like we could all the world was fine without social
media to a certain degree. I mean, there's although there
are benefits. I'm not one of these like old grumpy
like I'm forty one, I'm in my middle ages. You know,
like I think, um, you know, what was it the
(41:41):
Egypt summer Arab spring? Arab spring, Yeah, totally summer. Yet
the connectivity of that with live video on Twitter specifically
I remember because it was also during I think that
happened during the occupying movement was like kind of strong
during all that time as well. And I know, like
there is real power in social media and unfortunately, you know,
(42:04):
it cuts both ways. It cuts both ways. And like
our producer Nick was pointing out that when that was happening,
everyone on Twitter and Facebook was patting themselves on the back, like, oh, look,
how look at this tool for change we've created, and
they love it when they can, you know, do the
little uh pat on the back of victory dance. But
when you start looking at it a little bit close
and like, well, what's the other side of that, then
they're like, it's just it depends on if it's the
(42:28):
type of change you want to be happening. It's like
we're talking about yesterday, the fact that Obama two thousand twelve,
that campaign used a lot of the same tools that
Cambridge Analytica did. They weren't quite as shady, they didn't
quite steal data steal data. They just like got data.
But Facebook was like, this is a little shady, but
(42:49):
we'll let you do it until the election is over,
because everybody was cool with Obama getting re elected. Um
but yeah, like Nick was saying, uh, the fact that
they've known since the Arab Spring and since Obama won
the two thousand and twelve election that Facebook could be
used for these things like puts a lie to the
(43:10):
thing that Zuckerberg was saying, Like when I was sitting
in my dorm, did I know that Facebook could be
influencing elections? It's like, yeah, you definitely knew that. We know,
you knew that five years ago, Like we know for
a fact, but I didn't know that in two thousand four,
right exactly. Um, alright, let's take a quick break. We'll
be right back, and we're back. And uh so, you know,
(43:43):
we got accused of being a little leftish because we
criticize whoever is in the White House right now, but
uh so we wanted to take this opportunity to talk
about somebody who's on the left who I don't think
I could hate more or be like more annoyed by,
Like like I have a physical reaction to this guy,
(44:06):
it's the Obama. Yeah, it's the actor Barack Obama. The
actor Sean penn Um. So he just released or is
in the process. Next week apparently sees the release of
his first novel. Uh it is the title. The title
(44:26):
is grammatically incorrected. Is Bob Honey, who just do Stuff? So, uh,
we're pretentious right off the right from the jump, Bob Honey,
who just do stuff? Like it's interesting and artistic because
that's not how you say that phrase. Um, yeah, how
do you say it to make it sound coherent? It
just does stuff? Right? No? But as written, Bob Honey,
(44:50):
who just do stuff? Just just do stuff? Okay, So
it's like multiple people need to be like, you don't
know who Bob Honey is and there's just like just
do stuff. Um. Anyway, so this book sounds great already
(45:11):
because we don't even can't even wrap our running scenarios,
like a six year old kid like Honey who just
do stuff? Yeah? Uh so Bob Honey has a hard
time connecting with other people. He's the protagonist, especially since
his divorce. He's tired of being marketed to every moment, well,
(45:36):
sick of a world where even an orgasm isn't real
until it is turned into a tweet. Now, what the
funk are you talking about? Right there? This is in
the Amazon description of this is This isn't jack riffing,
This is an this is the product description of a
world where even an orgasm isn't real until it is
(45:57):
turned into a tweet. What the fuck does that mean? Like?
How does someone write that sentence? Be like I've summed
up our culture. That's like dad beat poetry even embarrassing.
Um the thing it continues. A paragon of old fashioned
American entrepreneurship, Bob sells septic tanks to Jehovah's witnesses and
(46:19):
arranges pyrotechnic displays for foreign dictators. See he's on the
spectrum experience. Yeah uh, let me just skip ahead to
the end of the description. With treason on everyone's lips,
terrorism and everyone's sites, an American political life sinking to
ever lower standards, Bob decides it's time to make a
(46:42):
change if he doesn't get killed by his mysterious controllers
were exposed in the rapacious media. First, what do you
mean killed? The other part we skipped is that euquote
he's also a contract killer? Were off the books program
run by a branch of you that targets the elderly,
(47:04):
the infirm, and others who drained this consumption driven society
of its resources. An elderly hit person, right, No, he
killed Yeah, he kills the old, the elderly, because it's
hurting Americans. Our healthcare system is doing perfectly. They're making
so much elderly like their ideal targets. Oh my god.
(47:25):
Uh yeah. And as our writer J. M McNabb said,
who better to transition into a career as a satirist
than Sean Penn, a guy who wrote an angry letter
to Trey Parker and Matt Stone after Team America came
out offering to fly them to Iraq before they should
be allowed to make jokes about not voting in an election,
(47:48):
because yeah, he just took everything they said seriously. He's
also the guy who when Chris Rock made some joke
about Jude Law when he hosts the Oscars, Schampang got
up in his acceptance special was like, I'll tell you
who Jude Law is. He's one of our finest working actors.
Set down. Um. We also watched a video that I
(48:13):
don't think you can put into words necessarily. I mean,
I understand Sean Penn's he's a real activist and really
trying to to fucking heal the wounds of this country.
So you I had never seen this video, Jacksons, you know,
have you seen the video where Sean Penn and Kid
Rock are like and they healed the nation? I said, fuck, no,
h we watch it. It's fucking insane. It's it's Sean
(48:36):
Penn at a bar like watching Mitt Romney introduced Kid
Rock to do a live performance and then like the
fucking shot holds on this Kid Rock performance like a
good twenty seconds more than it needs to be, and
then suddenly like the Sean Penn's like, can you change it?
And the bartender does, and then the whole time, Kid
Rock was next to him like drinking really loudly with
his friends sing yeah, and then then trading the you know,
(49:00):
they're real tired stereotypical jabs that the left and right
have for each other. He's like, you're just a Confederate
flag hugging blah blah blah, Kid Rocks, You're just the
prettiest driving Obama sucking. I don't know what that Bama
missing with that homophobic Rock, but uh yeah, Obama exactly
and then like I don't know if it just underlines
(49:22):
sort of how out of toucher. And by the way,
both of them Kid Rock who wrote and I think
directed or at least had a lot to do with
the editing of this movie because of like there's a
shot like Miles was saying, where he's watching a kid
Rock performance completely gratuitous, like there's actually no need for
Sean Penn to see this kid Rock performance, But then
it holds on the kid Rock performance for like thirty
(49:44):
five seconds, so kid Rock can like do the party
thinks looks cool. But this was clearly like written and
edited by him, and he never comes around on the
gay thing. He's still homophobic at the end, like Sean
Penn takes the game marriage, which by the way is
like the eighties beer a commercial version of gay, like
a guy dressed up as a groom and then another
guy dressed up as a woman with a beard a woman,
(50:07):
and then like surprise takes the veil away and they
start kissing, and Kid rockos, no, no, no way, like
really big gesture, right, yeah, what's crazy? Though? Two isn't
that bar site and the turn happens when they're bickering
over their political ideological differences is when suddenly the news
report comes on about a few like militant like troops
losing their lives in Afghanistan, and then like immediately dropped
(50:30):
the arguing. They both like dropped their heads. John Penn
starts sobbing, he starts crying. He starts crying, and then
he's like, yeah, man, I guess we should get along.
And then they're like to freedom, and I think they
cheers after they go on like an upper two of
his Buddy trip where they learn about each other on
the beach and then to watch for ten longest minutes
(50:51):
of your life. I mean people say, like the d
m T experience the psychedelic ten to fifteen minutes, right,
and you know, allege it late and uh, it feels
like eternity. And I thought, this is like the video
equivalent of d MT if you had like a really
bad trip. Yeah, but what this is? What if a
d m T trip is like right before you smoke
(51:14):
the d m T, this is your step mom yelling
at you because your report cards are really bad. It
feels like it's the longest video you've ever seen. In
your life. Yeah, Yeah, there's just a lot of cool
stuff in this Like, but you owe it to yourself
to once try psychedelics, to like expand your mind. You
owe it to yourself to at least once watch this
video to see, if nothing else, the amazing way time
(51:35):
can dilate when Sean Penn is trying to teach you
something about how the world works and how full of
ship both people on on either side can be. Could
you pick? Could you fantasy draft? Could you choose? Select
with your imagination to better slash worst people to represent,
like what it means for the opposites of America to
(51:56):
Sean Penn and Alex Jones would be pretty dope. Okay, okay,
But Sean Penn is our all of those things. Yeah,
he's the worst of us. Yeah, he's definitely the worst Californians, artists,
every everything, he's just he embodies it all. Getting back
to his novel, Uh, So it features an American president
(52:18):
who might be a stand in for whoever is currently
in the White House. I don't know. His name is
Mr Landlord? Okay, so the landlord the president is Mr Landlord.
I hope there's a dramatic scene in this book where
it's like, uh, and Bob Honey, he said he's gonna
takedown Mr Landlord, right that yeah, that sentence written out, Yeah,
(52:42):
and then he tectically Yeah, there's the whole thing about
how the that this president has an unhealthy obsession with
Twitter and an uncanny ability to spark furious marches by
women around the world. And then it says also contains
the killer burn penis adency. Yeah, there's yeah, it's a
weird thing. Uh okay. So part of it is he's
writing a letter, Bob Honey is writing a letter to
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the president, Mr dear, Mr Landlord. Not it's probably not
even President land Many wonderful American people in pain and
rage elected you, many Russians did to burn Your position
is an asterisk, accepted as literally as your alternative facts burn,
though the office will remain real. You never were nor
(53:26):
will be. A million women so dwarfed your penis sedensi,
which is supposed to be a plan on presidency, even
though that's uh nope, yeah, oh yeah, no, funnily enough
not penis adency on the streets of Washington and around
the world. On the day of your piddley inauguration, that
(53:48):
sentence doesn't end, and then it just says dot dot
dot tweet me, bitch, I dare you? That is sharp,
razor sharp. He's even got heat for the me too movement. Yeah,
calls the me too movement quote an infantilizing term of
the day. Is this a toddler's crusade? Reducing rape, slept shamming,
(54:09):
and suffrage to reckless child's play a platform for accusation impunity?
Do process has lost its sheen? I mean it's crazy too, because,
like I was saying, he I mean, both him and
Madonna deny that like he like abused her. But there
are plenty of reports of people like pulling up to
the scene and seeing a distraught Madonna who I think
(54:31):
was bloodied or whatever, supposedly allegedly by Seampinn. And yet
it's not his fault in the sense that he has
not lived in anything approaching reality for quite some thirty
years at the very least. And so people who are
this famous are just gonna do embarrassing ship and you
know they definitely don't live in It's a tough break, Yeah,
(54:53):
I do. This is inevitable. I should say it is
his fault, but it's inevitable, there's nobody there to be
like looking at his first draft of this book, even
though who knows if he even thought he needed someone
to look at it and be like, this actually isn't
very good. We maybe need to work on some of
the dialogue to make it more realistic, like real people talk.
This is how people talk. Man. I was in the
(55:14):
back of a Lincoln with Matthew McConaughey yesterday talking about
like how cool it is to like, every once in
a while drive like a gas car. Whoa um. And finally,
uh so, the origin story of the book might be
the best part. The origins of the book began with
an audio book Sean Penn performed, claiming it was written
(55:37):
by Pappy Pariah, a novelist he quote met at a
bar in Key West was known as Papa Hemingway and
that's where he lived in Key West, and Sean Penn
is also the Hemmingway of our generation. So in the
(55:58):
initials are pp and trump like, so it's so deep,
it's it's it's crazy, man, you know, And again we
are blessed to have you know, people like Salmon Rushdie
put a fucking quote on the front of that book
that says it seems wrong to say that's so dystopian.
A novel is great, fun to read, but it's true.
(56:19):
I suspect that Thomas Pinchion and Hunter S. Thompson would
love this book. Okay. I could just see him, like
he's sitting at a bar drinking some drink and Key
West and he's like, yeah, oh, if you don't think
that conversation happened with him playing both sides, Yeah yeah,
he's like he's realizing it. I mean, people love your voice.
(56:42):
I mean they do. I mean, so maybe we should
do the audiobook version first. I think this is crazy
enough to work. Oh are you like, hey, assholes, stop
talking to yourself. You're out out what I tell you
last week? Ryan, it's been a this has been correct.
Thanks for having me. Where can people find you? Follow you?
(57:04):
They can find me on Ryan Singer Comedy dot com. Uh,
they can see. Uh, there's a link to my new
book that I just came out. I put a replica
of to my knowledge, the first time a comedian has
put out their notebook, So people can see what it's
like to look inside of comedian's notebook if they so choose.
It's kind of an art comedy book that I really like,
so they can check out on an Amazon self release.
(57:25):
Ryan Singer Comedy dot com got links to everything Rice
sing ont He brought us a copy. It is dope.
Check it out. Miles. Where can people find you? Yeah,
you can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles Great.
You find me a Jack Underscore O'Brien on Twitter. You
can find us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter. We're at
the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan
page and a website, Daily zeitgeist dot com where we
(57:47):
post our episodes and their foot or link off to
the information contained in today's episode. That is going to
do it for today? Miles, Do you have a song
to write it out on? Yes? Uh, you know, I
just want to as Sean Penn was saying, uh, since
the me Too movement hasn't fantilized everything, I just want
to play a song by Slammed the Family Stone called
(58:09):
just Like a Baby, because you know, it just got
a great vibe to it, and just remember strum free Thursday,
So just vibe out, uh, and you know, listen to
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Hello the Internet, and welcome to the season twenty three
episode four day for March two thousand eight. Team, my
name is Jack O'Brien ak Bohemian Jacksony courtesy of a
K got Chapman Rights, and I am joined by my
co host, Mr Miles Gray right ak the Blazing power
Granger because I watched the New Power Rangers movie last
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night and was so disappointed. I don't even know. I
thought I would I wouldn't be, but this is what
happens when it's late at night, you can't sleep and
ship is on Amazon Pride. All right, we are thrilled
to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious
comedian Mr Ryan Singer. Hey, how you doing a K
Salvador Doll leagues. I paint pictures with my words and
knock you out with my verbs. That's I came up
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with that when I was fourteen, and I've been holding
you were MC and fourteen. Yeah, I was empty in
and uh you know in Dayton, Ohio at all Catholic school. Uh,
just you know, wishing to escape. Stan is a very
musical town. Yeah, it actually so much funk music as
originated out of Dayton's got a great music scene. Um,
(01:05):
what Catholic school in Dayton? I went to St. Albert
the Great Grade School and then I went to Altar
High School. Yeah, that's that's where I would have gone
had I stayed in Dayton. I lived in Centerville. Oh yeah, okay,
a long time. Five years. Uh, you probably would have
heard tales about me, you know, you know, so you've
probably heard of me that actually there was a there was.
(01:28):
I guess it's kind of timely. There's a walkout policy
at my high school because of me, because I UM,
I organized a walkout when I was in high school
my junior year over what a couple of friends of
mine got arrested for having paraphernalia in their car, but
it was off school property. So my grounds for protests
were legal search and seizure and the uh. And so
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I organized a walk out and maybe only twenty five
kids joined me. And ever since then they've they've had
a no walkout policies in school. Okay, well, didn't know
we was such a leader activist. Not nothing is like
you know, dramatic or as needed as you know what
these kids nowadays are doing, right, but they're like, you know,
they took my my homie's bomb. Yeah, there's yeah, different different. Well,
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my family was run out of that town really on
a rail. Yeah. My dad was a basketball coach for
University of Dayton and they were really bad the last
couple of years and we got the whole h wait,
your your dad, Jim O'Brien. Yeah, yeah, are you kidding me?
My dad would be My dad would be pooping his
(02:42):
pants right now that I'm hanging out with the son
of coach O'Brien. Oh my god. But we got the
first sale signs on the front yard and everything I did,
all right, your dad did all right after you got
you guys got run of town. NBA. Are you serious? Yeah?
I love how you remember, Like, man, I remember egg,
I remember well, when you grow up in Dayton, like
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uti basketball is big bonkers. It's like, you know, they've
been selling out their arena for decades and uh, they've
always had like teams that are like good enough to
make the Double A tournament but never good enough to
like really win at all. But like but they still
believe like that they're Cinderella. Oh man, that's crazy. Yeah, well,
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and that's some of my best years in Dayton. Was
it that was it crazy like that was like you
were legit just being harassed or it's just kind of
like that's not that didn't like define our time that
it was just ugly at the end because you know,
he was gonna be on the front page of the
sports page and people were calling for him to get fired,
and uh, you know as a twelve year old, that's
You're like, why are they being dad? He's doing the best.
(03:50):
He was super Like I lived and died with every
one of the wins, so I took it pretty hard.
But you know, it's like in people in Dayton don't
want to accept the fact that, guess what not a
lot of eighteen year old kids who are the best
at what they do want to live go to a
Catholic college. Right. It's like, you know, they have this
delusion that they think that like we should be getting
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the best place, attracting the best they tried to although
I guess I should. We could have got that Lebron
James guy. Yeah, we should move on to non Daton
basketball because that that is not the subject of this podcast.
We'll talk off the Dayton State. The Dayton State exactly, Ryan,
what is something from your search history that is revealing
bad who you are. Oh man, this is super embarrassing.
(04:34):
This happened to me a few months ago. I had
to google, um how to breathe? I had I forgot
the word rectangle. Wow, as like I really forgot what
the word rectangle is and I had to google. It's embarrassing.
I had to google two sides equal in length longer
than other two? Ship love that? How did that come about? Long? Yes?
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Where that's what I You're just making up? It's longy.
I remember at the time, it's like it's like when
a square is quarter horst like I was. But the
it's more embarrassing. Why I thought why I needed to
recall the word it was um. I had been researching
(05:19):
astrology for like years right then, and I had just
I thought I had This is crazy. I thought I
had channeled source right And it was like three in
the morning, and I was like, geometry astrology. No one's
done a geometry astrology system, and they probably have, by
the way, but until my God, it will be great.
You know, everybody will know what shape they are and
how they fit into the world around them, you know
(05:39):
what I mean, Like some people will be a circle,
some people will be a square, some people will be
a rhombus. I can see that, and then I couldn't remember.
That's when I was like, and some people that's a
little Caesar's pizza box, and I couldn't remember. Yeah, yeah,
you're really a prophet, bro. You can't remember the word
wrecking the like like Jesus shouldn't remember the work forgiveness,
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you know, like the thing that's key to the message,
Like what do you see in me? Master Ryan? Oh?
You my child are a um hold on the two
sides are definitely longer than the other. It's like a
headshot but it fell over, Like all right, I think
I'm gonna leave your van a church. I don't pay
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taxes because it's at mobile church. What is something you
think is underrated? Eggnog? Wow? I know these are controversial opinions,
but such an appropriate time on this middle end of
Mark right, there's always see this is the problem. This
is a result of the underrated nous of eggnog, thinking
(06:50):
that it's only a holiday, end of the year type drinks.
It is one of the most delicious drinks and not granted,
you cannot be drinking eggnog all the time because it's
not good for you. It remarkably bad. And I make
my own eggnogge at home. I've taken to it. It
tastes like a melted sugar cookie. It's so good, one
of the most under and you can add any booze
(07:11):
to it, and if you want, I make it alcohol
free and let you know the person. Peppermint vodka is
very good. Some people do bourbon, some people do rum,
some people do brandy. Yeah, I've always had it with
brandy or Knak and things like that, and with peppermint
is very good. And eggnog I like jamison as well. Wait,
so how did you what happened when you became a
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die hard eggn August? Well, I just loved it as
a kid, probably cause there's so much sugar in it. Yeah,
it's like drinking melted ice cream. Yeah, I think I've
somehow mentioned this on the show before. But like when
you look at Starbucks, like Holiday, uh latte's the pumpkin
spice and like all the other one gingerbread, like all
those ones that are like sweet and like have a
different flavor. Uh have you know, like three hundred more
(07:56):
calories than a normal latte, And then the eggnog has
like six It's just like eggnog is like next level.
It's like a milkshake and then they put egg yolks
in it. It's just like next level. That is next
level the bodybuilders treat I do think like if we're
going to be indulgent, like you might as well go
full out, like hardcore indulgent. I had one of my
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buddies went home over Christmas break in college and came
back and he had like a third chin, like just
like a neck layer of fat. And he had been
like a very thin guy, and he was like, I
just wanted to see how much weight I could gain
on eggnog. And apparently that ship works. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,
he's just like that now. So he's like, yeah, how
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much I could gain off egg That's actually not the
crazy I've I've heard other tales of these eggnog weight
gain challenges. Yeah, and it's it's one of the probably
best things to you know, gain a lot of weight.
You know, what's the worst of those cheap shitty eggnog
at the store, Like there's levels to store bought egg now,
like they're kind of sort of generic version not really
(09:02):
feeling if I see something remotely artis and I'm going
for it because there's all there's all. There's pumpkin egg. Now,
there's all kinds of egg. Now, there's soy, there's there's
there's everything. But I mean straight classic egg. Not give
me the class act, just but half and half in
a blender with three eggs and some not egg and
then like you know those big bricks of sugar that
you get it, just all of that. My problem started
(09:23):
because there was a grocery store in my hometown as
a kid that I discovered sold it year round. Oh.
This place was it was like a um, you know,
privately owned, like little grocery store in the neighborhood. Um.
And this place called Dorothy Lane Market. I'll give them
a shot up. They sold it year round. I lost
my mind. Yeah, and I was the one that they
probably stopped it for. That's why I can't You didn't
(09:44):
remember why with the name of directing. Yeah, too much
in there. AND's something you think is overrated chocolate? Chocolate
is well, I have I have two things written down here.
I have chocolate and then also individuality. Individuality. Um, I
do think individuality is overrated. But um, but chocolate I
think is a lie told by you know, big chocolate. Um,
(10:07):
you know Big Chocolate has sold us this lie, you know,
And I don't know. I just never like chocolate. Maybe
my mom ate too much of it when she was
pregnant with me or something, but I just never liked
it unless peanut butter. Just never like chocolate. Never like
chocolate and peanut butter though, yeah if peanut butter. Person,
have you ever had a linch truffle? I don't know.
I don't think I have. Like, well, there is a cavey.
(10:27):
I mean, I'm a hypocrite everything I say or do,
so I can admit this. I do love hot chocolate.
And I love hot chocolate because it doesn't taste like
chocolate really, but it's got like a buttery nest to it,
Like yeah, definitely more milk on the milky. Yeah. But
like chocolate ice cream, Oh, gag me with a spoon,
as the kids would say. The kids always say, I
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actually agree with chocolate ice cream. I'm not crazy about
chocolate cake, chocolate cake, chocolate chocolate, I fucking you dog
whistling now what chocolate to actually chocolate? I love chocolate, um,
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And then quickly individuality just in five words or less.
What's wrong with individuality? It keeps us from realizing and
we are all one, we are all great, they are
all on E were all one, we are all on
Hey that works too, uh? And then what is a myth?
What's something that most people think is true that you
(11:33):
know to be false. So I've also written down a
couple of examples because I don't know if one of
them classifies as a myth. But I will say this, Um,
I don't know how popular of a myth is that
vulnerability creates connection. I was listening. I was on a
delta flight and if I can say that, and I
was listening to a Ted talk by Burnet Brown, who
it's a great Ted talk. You actually can't say Ted talk, Okay, sorry.
(11:53):
I was listening to Edward Edward Talk, and so I
listened to like the second half of it, and it
was like very moving. So I like, just in it
loops on their radio, on their little So I'm just
listening to it again and then like it's so moving
and powerful that I start crying on this flight. And
I'm on a window, see because I love the window,
(12:14):
and I look next to me, there's a woman, uh,
sitting next to me and I and I'm like bawling,
and she obviously knows I'm crying and uh. And I
looked to her and I say vulnerability, you know what
I mean? And then she did not connect with me,
and she got the funk out of it. She st
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do you have anyone who would switch with yeah? Because
I obviously I didn't, you know, in the moment, realized
that she was not listening to the Ted talk. So
I'm just some like guy who looks like me crying. Look,
you know, yes, in the air. And I've never felt
more persons away. I never said I wasn't. That's not
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what I'm saying. That's my experience with that one. Also,
the wine bottle with the shoe that you can open
if you don't have a crew, that's yes, yoh. I
tried that once when I was working a campaign in
like I forget where the funk I was. I was
living in a hotel and I got a bottle of
wine and I couldn't get it. All I know wine
(13:20):
ky and I tried that version fucking busted the wine
bottle like I sucked it up. But I saw a
video of someone doing right, it's bogus, I think, because
you shake the foundation of whatever you're like, like if
you're in a hotel or something, everyone's like what he
came and like they came into a guy with a
broken wine bottle over and I didn't have a win.
And also Chupacabra, I don't believe in Chupacabra. You don't.
(13:43):
Chupacabra is younger than Miley Cyrus the son of all
like the cryptids that you know, and I'm like into that,
and it's a resident crypto. Chupacabra. I'm not on board
with the Chupacabra is younger the Miley. Based on like
some local news like misunderstandings and ship. Yeah, it's from
(14:06):
like the nineties, but I'll tell you what, it's got
a good PR team. Yeah you said you was sucking
all those goats for not specific? Is that what it is?
See See, I'm getting a bunch of bunk information. I
looked froward for my seventeen years there and that will
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end now, thank you, Ryan. All right, let's get into
what is trending on our global shared consciousness right now.
For that, we look to Google trends, uh and the
number two trending thing right now in the world. We
can't talk about the number one trending thing because it
is Trump free Thursdays. Yeah, shout out Shannon Coffee with
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that drop. So number two most trending thing is the
world's largest collection of ocean garbage. Garbage island is now
twice the size of Texas. This is the Pacific Gyre,
Pacific garbage sort of. I like how they call it
the large collection of ocean like it almost makes it glamorous. Yeah,
(15:18):
it's a fucking just a hideous. It's it's the worst
of humanity in the Pacific Ocean, right And it's like you're, yeah,
you were saying, like, do you know have any idea
how long it takes to drive across Texas and you
get to drive like seventy five on the freeway. I
had to do it a bunch of times just from
being on the road, and it is it's awful so much.
(15:42):
It's interesting that the garbage in the ocean like kind
of collects together and turns into a big island. But
the garbage in space like has a tendency to like,
you know, shatter because it like runs into each other
and it's moving faster than the speed of a bullet.
So it's just tons of tiny pieces of garbage in space,
just a layer. I mean, I guess we don't really
(16:02):
garbage get rid of it either, Nah, just make it big.
Well no, not the not the space garbage. There is
a multimillion dollar fund being put together to clean up
the garbage patch that was started by I think a
teenager and like one of the Nordic countries was just
like man, that fucking sucks and started like collecting funding
(16:26):
and I think he's up up to thirty five million
dollars and they're like atting putting a group together to
clean up the giant, horrible garbage patch. And so they
went out and kind of studied it and it turns
out it's fort commercial fishing nets discarded. Yeah, so apparently
(16:47):
that's a thing that happens a lot with commercial fishing
boats as they just like cut net. They're just like
ship we gotta get. Yeah. I wonder if there's wild
I live living on this. Yeah, I'm telling you to
imagine it's like an equally it's only ecosystem. I'm glad
the plan isn't like, let's just burn it like you
could imagine that just drop a bomb on it. The
(17:11):
planet Earth too, has a whole uh episode that's about
cities and like animals learning to live around human cities. Um,
that's pretty interesting worth checking out. But do you think
they're doing that with this garbage? Yeah, they're resourced. My
hope is that in the Olympics, the garbage and will
have a team Olympic team that they can send out
there to compete one of the dopest things. Okay, so
(17:33):
I was gonna I'm thinking what the flag would be,
just like a rapper, right right, it's right. Who would
be the captain of the the garbage team? I wish
it would be Captain Ron but Russell, Kurt Russell would
reprise his role for it doesn't really make sense. But yeah,
(17:54):
I like that he's carrying the net, he's walking him
out or the who's the muppet in the trash can
oh oscar He's like the prime Minister of trash Island.
I don't know if he was like he didn't know
what his event would be. Yeah, just fucking bothering people
who walk by. Although he walks now he like he's
(18:15):
out of the camp. Yeah, he got out of the can,
like on a recent episode of Sesame Street and like
walked down the street and they just like showed his legs.
I was like, oh no, they atrophied like bed sores,
and just like, yeah, he's he's seeking medical care because
the wounds are faster. He needs the legs to be amputated.
(18:35):
He's like living in a garbage can. Yeah, well, oscars out,
I will I refuse to look at that. That would
You saw my face when he said that. I was
genuinely in shock when I heard that. I would see
Oscar out of the camp? No, yeah, yeah, no, yeah,
they don't need muppets have legs now. They when we
were kids, they just didn't show them from belly button
down and also realistic human genitalia. Yeah on the Muppets, right,
(19:00):
they don't have that. I was like because I thought,
I was like, are you sure you weren't watching? Don't
hug me. I'm scared. Have you seen that? No, I'm
telling YouTube. It's like this adult Muppets and it's so trippy.
It's it's really wild. Um alright. Also trending, Owen Wilson
is trending because he caused the evacuation of a Miami hotel. Yeah,
(19:21):
because he smoked a cigarette inside. I mean, who smokes
a cigarette indoor anywhere? Anymore scummy? And I think only
a celebrity would do, Like fuck it, I'm just the
money to pay for the fee. Yeah. Because also, yeah,
like it set off to learn they had to evacuate
the hotel and then apparently like it was caught on
camera of like him and his like whatever his date
(19:41):
he was with there like dancing in the hall was
like the alarm goes out. Yeah, um wow, it's crazy.
It's crazy that. Uh yeah, that that's like what being
a badass celebrity is now. Sinatra used to be able
to like murder a person in a hotel room like loudly,
and people just be like a Frank frank Off hotel
(20:06):
like fucking own Wilson cigarettes broom. Yeah, but I think
it's probably progress that that we're we're we're of course
clearly murdering someone is the worst. Ben Affleck's back tattoo.
We have to talk about it. We've been ignored a
long time, but it's time to talk about it. Because
(20:28):
we saw a picture of it. I saw a picture
of it earlier this week. Uh, I've not slept since
it's I don't know what to make of this tattoo
because it's just wild Man still aggressive that phoenix is.
I gotta tell you, I love phoenix is I love
dragon like creature And I can't say I'm I do
(20:53):
wonder when he got it, Like what the state was? Yeah,
where was he when he got Was it pre Batman?
Was it? Like? Because you know, is that when he
had the time to this is an elaborate probably took
a long time to get done, right, Yeah, like this
this is a three day tattoo. Like it's one of
those ones that like you have to go back and
get touched up and well it's crazy. Like two years
(21:14):
ago apparently like there was a picture of him shirtless
where it like they showed the tattoo and he told
Mario Lopez it was fake, and Mario Lopez was like, yeah,
that makes sense, dude. Yeah, it's like all you got
fake tattoo too. Sometimes I use those sleeves that you
can buy that you just oh yeah, this shitty, fucking
lame tattoo. Oh yeah, that's fake it at entertainment tonight.
(21:37):
Ye wait to see how one of those are. Sorry,
he also has some kind of deal with Satan because
he doesn't age. Yeah, just completely dead behind the eyes.
You know, he had to get since it is a phoenix,
he had to have gotten it in Phoenix, in Phoenix
after his career revived. Yeah, right right, So it was
like a symbol like I think probably once he got
(21:58):
what really what would you say was the benchmark that
brought back his town was like where it's like, yeah,
he's to me, He's always just kind of hovered in
the same space and like whatever. Man that affleck was
like a laughing stock. It was like I wonder, I
wonder if man Damon returns his phone calls. And then
he came back as a director and we were like,
all right, he has some talent and then now he's
(22:21):
you know, so the town was his cop Land, I
think like Stallone's Copland and pulp fiction, like, so the
town do you think? Yeah, I think this tattoo is
probably right after Argo, right after he won the oscar. Yeah, yeah,
that's probably true. I'm back, baby, don't everybody? Do you
think he had like the goth Kid's notebook that he
(22:45):
took that from with him and he was just like yeah,
or did he describe it from this feels generic. I
don't know, it looks like it feels like a goth
kid's notebook as interpreted by the people who did the
Trapper Keeper art for literally, like you know, it's like
very clean cut the trap of Keeper designers. Okay, no,
(23:05):
I think they're geniuses. All right, let's take a quick break.
We'll be right back, and we're back. And we wanted
to talk about the deep state, something something that is
(23:25):
really becoming a problem right now. I mean, look, the
deep State, from what I'm reading, is responsible for most
of the world's problems. Uh, you know, from there was
like I think, what last year there was a congressman,
formal congressman in Texas who was basically caught like funneling
money into a charity of his own creation and it
was facing criminal charges for that, but the deep State,
(23:47):
uh framed him. You know. I think most recently we
found out that the deep State was also responsible for
Ben Carson's dining room set. Really yeah, yeah, it doesn't
know about that. It was because I knew they were
busy like taking the whoever currently is down But no, no, no,
you're bro. They've got eyes everywhere. You think it's right,
(24:11):
my man, there they got their hands in everything. So
the reason everything this stuff is because recently there was
a poll that came out they said about forty seven
percent of Americans, uh, they believe that the deep state
probably exists. Seven percent said that the deep state definitely exists.
Now I understand like conceptually that there are forces at
work that we can't quite articulate through what we see
in the mainstream news or whatever, and like they're powerful
(24:33):
lobbying groups and other things that at work that can
you know, shift policy and things like that. Yeah, like
there are bureaucrats who aren't subject to election who you know,
have a lot of influence and even some of them
are in intelligence and probably real shady motherfucker's Ryan, weren't
you saying that, like there's a big chunk of the
annual budgets that just like goes into a black hole
(24:55):
and just disappears, and like Congress and everywhere like like well,
we just don't know where it goes, but it goes,
you know, it goes into all these like you know,
secret defense programs and things like that. So, I mean,
my problem with this whole deep state thing being thrown
around like, you know, like they used to like, oh
thanks Obama, like they used to do back the news.
You know, it's like there, it's diminishing, like the realness
(25:17):
of something, right exactly. So cut to this Congress when
Claudia Tenny, who represents a district and upstate New York
she was recently she called into a radio show and
just listen to her basically blaming the deep state for
Ben Carson's problems with somebody in the deep State. It
was not one of his people apparently ordered a table
like a conference room table or whatever it was, for
(25:37):
a room and that's what the cost was. When bed
Carson tried to he said, you know how hard it
is to turn it back because of the um the
way that the chairman happened. She sounds like she took
all those sleeping pills right before starting that. I mean
she CLUDI Tenny has she has hot takes to say
(25:59):
the least. I mean, she was like, you know, she
claimed to know how hard it is to turn turn
it back return something that you bought online. That's like
the whole point of online. But Ben said that apparently
apparently you can't. I don't know, no, sorry, man did
you just fall asleep. No, but yeah, so what's funny
(26:23):
is like Ben Carson though this week he testified and
was talking about it, he threw his fucking wife under
the bus. He's like, my wife decided that we needed
it and that you know, I just don't. It was wild.
Also just see him pass the buck. Although there were
fucking emails like through uh Freedom of Information uh Act request,
they were able to get like emails and the correspondence
is clear him and his wife were looking at and like,
(26:44):
oh not get this one. So, like you're saying, the
deep state is basically for some people become like the
default way too. It's just like a really shitty debate
tool is just to be like, nah's deep state, Like
that's it. It's just the deep state, like without explaining,
like this fits a pattern, especially lot of cabinet members
that Trump has appointed having like a really bad habit
of fucking balling out on the taxpayer's dime. So deep
(27:09):
state though, deep deep state. Yeah. I think you're right though,
that it will become the go to like hipster joke
the way that thanks a lot Obama, or like calling
someone a comedy like before that, like where a joking thing.
But it is a little concerning, right because when you
look at those statistics and clearly like we are a
(27:30):
lot of this misinformation ship. And I think just generally
the way, because our government runs so inefficiently, people are
left to try and explain for themselves what the funk
is going on or explain their own situation. And I
think for some people the deep state has become like
a legitimate way that they're explaining, like why the things
they want to happen aren't happening. I think you can
just I mean, we can call what it is. For
a lot of these people who are you know, in
(27:52):
who are convinced that the deep state is real, let's
just say what it is. They think it's the it's
a it's a synonym for illuminati, brought new world order,
things like that, you know, the powerful elite the control everything.
And that's not to say that you know, the richest
people in the world do have a vested interest in
working of course, and so when you have people throwing
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around the deep state for like dinner wear or a
conference table or like, you know, what it really does
is it deflects and it really uh diminishes the realness
of like the problem that maybe with this actual deep state,
if in fact that it is as powerful as some
people think. Right, it seems like for right now, a
lot of conservatives are using it as the career like
(28:35):
like federal you know, a law enforcement people who are
just shining a light on someone's business because you're not
still say somebody's name. But yeah, like that, I mean, yeah,
it's just frustrating because the people who are really angry
about the deep State are the same people who's you know,
the things they're fighting for are basically dictated by the
Koch brothers like ten years ago to like their political Yeah.
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Well because but like they say, the distribution is pretty
equal among Democrats and Republicans. Yeah, so I'm sure it's
just like you know, the man like my grandparents were
really thinking about we're talking about the Illuminati years ago
because they were like, you know, Beyonce and jay Z
and my grandparents said that ship to me and I
was like, and I said, what what do you mean
by that? And they're like, well, they made a deal
with with Satan And I was like, Grandma, what is it?
(29:21):
Collie is a big one. Uh. The female like got
us the I don't know. To me, it's all pretty
it's pretty fascinating stuff. But like there's uh, I mean,
there's just so many wormholes that open up and rabbit
holes they open up. And unfortunately there's so many people
who you know have a microphone, uh, that are very popular, right,
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or that have a lot of people listening to them.
One of them, we won't name, another one of them
has a you know, like and so everyone instead of
taking any responsibility for oneself, yeah, and understanding that when
everyone talks about they like they're they're out to get us,
that we're all complicit in this like in this like society,
like there's they is a tiny part of every single
one of them, right, is what I truly believe. But um,
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so it really shirk's responsibility for any personal accountability on
all this stuff. Yeah, somebody described it, I think talking
about Cambridge Analytica, but they described overall the experience of
propaganda today as you know, someone shouting in your ear
with a megaphone except nobody around you can hear it.
So like, we don't know what propaganda you've been exposed to, um,
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because you know you happen to be listening to you know,
whatever media diet you have selected for yourself for you know,
your algorithms or Facebook has has selected for you. That's
like specifically designed to your preferences. It's like specifically designed
to be appealing to you. Um, but so what your
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beliefs are informed by are like people around you don't know,
and it's really hard to monitor. One of the things
that I really took from this, like you know, like
the Russians and the Cambridge Analytica and all this, is
that how are people getting Facebook ads to work? Like
I have been I have been putting money into Facebook
ads like they work, right, Like they figured out how
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to get Facebook ads to work, like they figured I guess,
like to me. And then like also obviously it's it's
much more than making a joke. But like as far
as like stealing data and harvesting information from people, I mean,
maybe you should use fear based advertising. Maybe I should,
like I should, maybe I should pulling it Alex Jones
and tell everybody that their kids are gonna you don't
if you don't buy it, your children's testicles ovaries. That's
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the end of America to transpastites raise your children, all right.
It's like what. Yeah, it's like, okay, let's relax, but
I guess I will be buying his book now. Yeah.
I hadn't realized that he was now targeting the person
who took the video of the gray dash charger like
going into the crowd of protesters in Charlottesville. Alex Jones
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has now like insto everybody that that person is a
deep state operative. The guy who took the video took
the video. It was just down there, you know, being
a counterprotester, like just a young person who had like
he had been in I think the Peace Corps or
one of those you know, America or America or something
like that, and so he had gone to other countries
(32:19):
to volunteer and they're like see he's like he's doing
global He's had him in Africa. It's really piss his
mouth because as a guy who over the years has
been into certain conspiracy theories and things like that, I mean,
the origin of conspiracy theory being created by the CIA
or whatever, like not everything, not every conspiracy theory is
(32:39):
total bs and not and obviously they're not all true either,
But now as a dude who used to be into
some of this stuff, like now everything is a conspiracy
theory immediately when it happened. But every single thing is
because of this maniac, right, Like it's not like the
shell casing hasn't even hit the floor before Alex Jones
is saying christis actor. Right, It's like, dude, you are
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killing you're you're killing us. And he'll use the defense
that he's a performance actor killing us and killing in
terms of traffic and his nutraceutical sales, like he makes
a fortune on I thought he's not doing well though
right now, well with advertisers. I think he's not doing well.
But I think he's making money off the nutrics because
I know he's getting hit with other lives. He's got
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a piece of the bunker companies, you know, like you know,
survival bunker, Like, yeah, I just bought. When you are
court ordered to pay close to what fifty dollars a
month and child support, you're killing it, you know what
I mean? No performance artist would ever be able to
afford fifty dollars a year if they're lucky, if you're
a performance artist. Right, So that is one thing to note.
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He doesn't believe any of this. Ship. He goes into
court and he's like I'm an artiste and this is
a character that I play named Alex Jones. He happens
to have the same name as me. He does not
have the same beliefs as me. Have you heard that exactly? Yeah? Um,
but he is getting sued, uh this time not by
(34:07):
his ex wife but by the guy who took the
video in Charlottesville because his life has been completely ruined
by Alex Jones. And Alex Jones. So it's gotta like
Steve Bartman on crack, it's gotta be times write what
he's done to this guy. And he only piste off
Chicago Cubs fans. So, like, imagine when you get that whole.
Did you ever see the movie The Circle? M hmm,
(34:28):
it's about social media group and it's got Tom Hanks
and Emma Watson speaks. Yeah, it kind of speaks to this.
But uh, the like the idea that like you can
destroy someone's life by shining your lens on them. Uh,
it is such a it's a reality that we're living in. Yeah. Yeah,
And it's sad because the people who are creating the
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sort of platforms to do this, I seem to not
really understand what they have created or what their role
is in creating these. So Mark Zuckerberg emerged from the
mists where wherever he was just laying low for the
past five days, and what's in his like residentiary where
he bought like the nine houses around him. Um, and
(35:11):
he's a buffer zone as he does it right, which
would be so creepy if like all your neighbors were
just empty houses. Yeah, I think like homies lived there.
But he definitely was like He's like, I'm gonna buy
half this neighborhood. I don't want anybody looking at me. Wow.
He really appreciates privacy. Weird. Um, So he came out
and was like, uh, you know, he acknowledged that what
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they did was a problem, and that he you know,
said that they're working to fix the problem. He never
said we're sorry, because I'm sure legally like his lawyers
were like, you do not say anything that indicates culpability.
But there was this one passage in his interview with
The New York Times where he was like, are there
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other Cambridge Analytica is out? There were there apps which
could have gotten access to more information and potentially sold
it without us knowing, or done something that violated people's trust.
We also need to make sure we get that under control.
So he like asked these questions that like we're all
asking him, and she's just like, I'll answer that question
(36:17):
with another question. Should like answer that question with the
question your question? Ryan? Do you think there are other
Cambridge analytic is out there that are using people's data
in nefarious ways? Well? I think we have to ask ourselves, Ryan,
are there other companies out there, like Cambrage Analytics are
using I just asked you a yes or no question,
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my man? Yeah's And it's so reactive to like every
like the ship is like like we're gonna do a
full forensic analysis of like all of our data. Blah
blah blah. It's like, asshole, you need to be telling
people about what you are doing now to prevent ship
like this happening and saying more about rather than like, yeah,
we're gonna have to look into that and get that
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on nder control. Like it's not like a problem floor
of a dorm where you're like, yeah, we're gonna look
into I hear those kids are partying. We're gonna wak
into that. It's like fifty million people. Who knows if
that's even the actual number fifty million people's data is
like just being used for whatever the people can. We
also like just mentioned stop taking personality quizes like you
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don't know what house you're in and uh, like the
Harry Potter World. You know, you're a huff Uff, You're
a Miranda and you're in your heart, you know Leonardo
unfortunately Leonardo and a Blue Ranger, and you're not None
of you are Lion l none of you are lyon
l Um. He also did this sort of false modesty
(37:46):
thing where he was like, I mean when I was
making Facebook in my dorm room, like I could never
have imagined that I'd be talking about like elections. It's like, dude,
you easily if I had that kid here right now,
you as a fresh when at Harvard and was like, Yo,
you're gonna be talking about elections, he'd be like, yeah,
funk right, I am. Everyone is gonna be everyone in
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the fucking world is going to use this and then
but not for elections. Yeah. The way he really kind
of threw his hands up, like because it was whiny
almost the way like if you really like, what's that
interview on CNN? Because the way he's like, because the
delivery was like, if you told me in two thousand four,
I would have to like be talking about election integrity,
(38:28):
Like fuck you, like just sucking you. You You have
like the equivalent of the followers of like one of
the most massive religions on Earth. But we're going by
show volume of users like over two billion people. Yeah,
you kind of have that fucking responsibility, Like I'm supposed
to have to talk to you people when I'm the
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one of the richest guy in the world. And the
words of Don Draper, that's what the fucking money is for, right, Like, yeah,
you get all that money that there's something that we
exchange for that you need to like work really hard
to like help us out. You don't just get to
like sit back and be lucky and like win the lottery. Um,
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I mean I understand like why that you know, it's
lucrative to sell this data. And clearly that just got
so out of hand that now we're at this point
we're like whoa, whoa, whoa, what the funk are you
doing with all this information? And like now we really
have this sort of conversation now was like how much
insight is too much insight? Like that clearly, you know
commerce and capitalism will function without these like hyper targeted
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advert advertisements and things like that. And where is like
the line now, because now Congress is like, Yo, get
your ass over here and answer some fucking questions and
don't just answer my question with the question I just
asked you, right, Um, Yeah, I feel like they need
we're talking about black hats and white hats, like get
getting white hat hackers who will like work on exposing
(39:52):
flaws like this ahead of time. I feel like they
need to be spending you know when they talk about
like releasing a movie you and like equal to the
production budget on advertising it. I feel like these companies
need to spend equal to whatever they're operating budget is
on trying to like find vulnerabilities and think like somebody
trying to exploit their product once they get that big,
(40:14):
Like that's where they need to be thinking because that's
their responsibility and they're not going to do that on
their own. The government needs to like find them to
such a degree that they have to think of these
solutions themselves and like be proactive. But they're not going
to get proactive just by us being like shame on you,
Like it's they need to see actual you know, monetary
(40:38):
consequence or people like being like, oh, you delete your
Facebook in your Instagram and all this. What's crazy to
me is that like people are even talking about like, well,
I guess I'll just be on Twitter then, like as
if Twitter is the better one and see. Unfortunately, the
easiest solution to all of this is the most difficult
for people to get social media. It's just I mean,
you know, whether you know, I mean, I think it's
(40:59):
kind of ironic that he, you know, has these nine
empty houses around him, that he's so disconnected from people
when like he's got the thing that supposedly connected to
us all the most, right, But the easiest way is
to just get get off Facebook and get off these
like I'm trying to remember. But it's like it's not
a new statement, Like there's nothing free, right, So anytime
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you sign up for free something you're giving away. You know,
you're surrendering your soul as it were. But so, I mean,
like we could all the world was fine without social
media to a certain degree. I mean, there's although there
are benefits. I'm not one of these like old grumpy
like I'm forty one, I'm in my middle ages. You know,
like I think, um, you know, what was it the
(41:41):
Egypt summer Arab spring? Arab spring, Yeah, totally summer. Yet
the connectivity of that with live video on Twitter specifically
I remember because it was also during I think that
happened during the occupying movement was like kind of strong
during all that time as well. And I know, like
there is real power in social media and unfortunately, you know,
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it cuts both ways. It cuts both ways. And like
our producer Nick was pointing out that when that was happening,
everyone on Twitter and Facebook was patting themselves on the back, like, oh, look,
how look at this tool for change we've created, and
they love it when they can, you know, do the
little uh pat on the back of victory dance. But
when you start looking at it a little bit close
and like, well, what's the other side of that, then
they're like, it's just it depends on if it's the
(42:28):
type of change you want to be happening. It's like
we're talking about yesterday, the fact that Obama two thousand twelve,
that campaign used a lot of the same tools that
Cambridge Analytica did. They weren't quite as shady, they didn't
quite steal data steal data. They just like got data.
But Facebook was like, this is a little shady, but
(42:49):
we'll let you do it until the election is over,
because everybody was cool with Obama getting re elected. Um
but yeah, like Nick was saying, uh, the fact that
they've known since the Arab Spring and since Obama won
the two thousand and twelve election that Facebook could be
used for these things like puts a lie to the
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thing that Zuckerberg was saying, Like when I was sitting
in my dorm, did I know that Facebook could be
influencing elections? It's like, yeah, you definitely knew that. We know,
you knew that five years ago, Like we know for
a fact, but I didn't know that in two thousand four,
right exactly. Um, alright, let's take a quick break. We'll
be right back, and we're back. And uh so, you know,
(43:43):
we got accused of being a little leftish because we
criticize whoever is in the White House right now, but
uh so we wanted to take this opportunity to talk
about somebody who's on the left who I don't think
I could hate more or be like more annoyed by,
Like like I have a physical reaction to this guy,
(44:06):
it's the Obama. Yeah, it's the actor Barack Obama. The
actor Sean penn Um. So he just released or is
in the process. Next week apparently sees the release of
his first novel. Uh it is the title. The title
(44:26):
is grammatically incorrected. Is Bob Honey, who just do Stuff? So, uh,
we're pretentious right off the right from the jump, Bob Honey,
who just do stuff? Like it's interesting and artistic because
that's not how you say that phrase. Um, yeah, how
do you say it to make it sound coherent? It
just does stuff? Right? No? But as written, Bob Honey,
(44:50):
who just do stuff? Just just do stuff? Okay, So
it's like multiple people need to be like, you don't
know who Bob Honey is and there's just like just
do stuff. Um. Anyway, so this book sounds great already
(45:11):
because we don't even can't even wrap our running scenarios,
like a six year old kid like Honey who just
do stuff? Yeah? Uh so Bob Honey has a hard
time connecting with other people. He's the protagonist, especially since
his divorce. He's tired of being marketed to every moment, well,
(45:36):
sick of a world where even an orgasm isn't real
until it is turned into a tweet. Now, what the
funk are you talking about? Right there? This is in
the Amazon description of this is This isn't jack riffing,
This is an this is the product description of a
world where even an orgasm isn't real until it is
(45:57):
turned into a tweet. What the fuck does that mean? Like?
How does someone write that sentence? Be like I've summed
up our culture. That's like dad beat poetry even embarrassing.
Um the thing it continues. A paragon of old fashioned
American entrepreneurship, Bob sells septic tanks to Jehovah's witnesses and
(46:19):
arranges pyrotechnic displays for foreign dictators. See he's on the
spectrum experience. Yeah uh, let me just skip ahead to
the end of the description. With treason on everyone's lips,
terrorism and everyone's sites, an American political life sinking to
ever lower standards, Bob decides it's time to make a
(46:42):
change if he doesn't get killed by his mysterious controllers
were exposed in the rapacious media. First, what do you
mean killed? The other part we skipped is that euquote
he's also a contract killer? Were off the books program
run by a branch of you that targets the elderly,
(47:04):
the infirm, and others who drained this consumption driven society
of its resources. An elderly hit person, right, No, he
killed Yeah, he kills the old, the elderly, because it's
hurting Americans. Our healthcare system is doing perfectly. They're making
so much elderly like their ideal targets. Oh my god.
(47:25):
Uh yeah. And as our writer J. M McNabb said,
who better to transition into a career as a satirist
than Sean Penn, a guy who wrote an angry letter
to Trey Parker and Matt Stone after Team America came
out offering to fly them to Iraq before they should
be allowed to make jokes about not voting in an election,
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because yeah, he just took everything they said seriously. He's
also the guy who when Chris Rock made some joke
about Jude Law when he hosts the Oscars, Schampang got
up in his acceptance special was like, I'll tell you
who Jude Law is. He's one of our finest working actors.
Set down. Um. We also watched a video that I
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don't think you can put into words necessarily. I mean,
I understand Sean Penn's he's a real activist and really
trying to to fucking heal the wounds of this country.
So you I had never seen this video, Jacksons, you know,
have you seen the video where Sean Penn and Kid
Rock are like and they healed the nation? I said, fuck, no,
h we watch it. It's fucking insane. It's it's Sean
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Penn at a bar like watching Mitt Romney introduced Kid
Rock to do a live performance and then like the
fucking shot holds on this Kid Rock performance like a
good twenty seconds more than it needs to be, and
then suddenly like the Sean Penn's like, can you change it?
And the bartender does, and then the whole time, Kid
Rock was next to him like drinking really loudly with
his friends sing yeah, and then then trading the you know,
(49:00):
they're real tired stereotypical jabs that the left and right
have for each other. He's like, you're just a Confederate
flag hugging blah blah blah, Kid Rocks, You're just the
prettiest driving Obama sucking. I don't know what that Bama
missing with that homophobic Rock, but uh yeah, Obama exactly
and then like I don't know if it just underlines
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sort of how out of toucher. And by the way,
both of them Kid Rock who wrote and I think
directed or at least had a lot to do with
the editing of this movie because of like there's a
shot like Miles was saying, where he's watching a kid
Rock performance completely gratuitous, like there's actually no need for
Sean Penn to see this kid Rock performance, But then
it holds on the kid Rock performance for like thirty
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five seconds, so kid Rock can like do the party
thinks looks cool. But this was clearly like written and
edited by him, and he never comes around on the
gay thing. He's still homophobic at the end, like Sean
Penn takes the game marriage, which by the way is
like the eighties beer a commercial version of gay, like
a guy dressed up as a groom and then another
guy dressed up as a woman with a beard a woman,
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and then like surprise takes the veil away and they
start kissing, and Kid rockos, no, no, no way, like
really big gesture, right, yeah, what's crazy? Though? Two isn't
that bar site and the turn happens when they're bickering
over their political ideological differences is when suddenly the news
report comes on about a few like militant like troops
losing their lives in Afghanistan, and then like immediately dropped
(50:30):
the arguing. They both like dropped their heads. John Penn
starts sobbing, he starts crying. He starts crying, and then
he's like, yeah, man, I guess we should get along.
And then they're like to freedom, and I think they
cheers after they go on like an upper two of
his Buddy trip where they learn about each other on
the beach and then to watch for ten longest minutes
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of your life. I mean people say, like the d
m T experience the psychedelic ten to fifteen minutes, right,
and you know, allege it late and uh, it feels
like eternity. And I thought, this is like the video
equivalent of d MT if you had like a really
bad trip. Yeah, but what this is? What if a
d m T trip is like right before you smoke
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the d m T, this is your step mom yelling
at you because your report cards are really bad. It
feels like it's the longest video you've ever seen. In
your life. Yeah, Yeah, there's just a lot of cool
stuff in this Like, but you owe it to yourself
to once try psychedelics, to like expand your mind. You
owe it to yourself to at least once watch this
video to see, if nothing else, the amazing way time
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can dilate when Sean Penn is trying to teach you
something about how the world works and how full of
ship both people on on either side can be. Could
you pick? Could you fantasy draft? Could you choose? Select
with your imagination to better slash worst people to represent,
like what it means for the opposites of America to
(51:56):
Sean Penn and Alex Jones would be pretty dope. Okay, okay,
But Sean Penn is our all of those things. Yeah,
he's the worst of us. Yeah, he's definitely the worst Californians, artists,
every everything, he's just he embodies it all. Getting back
to his novel, Uh, So it features an American president
(52:18):
who might be a stand in for whoever is currently
in the White House. I don't know. His name is
Mr Landlord? Okay, so the landlord the president is Mr Landlord.
I hope there's a dramatic scene in this book where
it's like, uh, and Bob Honey, he said he's gonna
takedown Mr Landlord, right that yeah, that sentence written out, Yeah,
(52:42):
and then he tectically Yeah, there's the whole thing about
how the that this president has an unhealthy obsession with
Twitter and an uncanny ability to spark furious marches by
women around the world. And then it says also contains
the killer burn penis adency. Yeah, there's yeah, it's a
weird thing. Uh okay. So part of it is he's
writing a letter, Bob Honey is writing a letter to
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the president, Mr dear, Mr Landlord. Not it's probably not
even President land Many wonderful American people in pain and
rage elected you, many Russians did to burn Your position
is an asterisk, accepted as literally as your alternative facts burn,
though the office will remain real. You never were nor
(53:26):
will be. A million women so dwarfed your penis sedensi,
which is supposed to be a plan on presidency, even
though that's uh nope, yeah, oh yeah, no, funnily enough
not penis adency on the streets of Washington and around
the world. On the day of your piddley inauguration, that
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sentence doesn't end, and then it just says dot dot
dot tweet me, bitch, I dare you? That is sharp,
razor sharp. He's even got heat for the me too movement. Yeah,
calls the me too movement quote an infantilizing term of
the day. Is this a toddler's crusade? Reducing rape, slept shamming,
(54:09):
and suffrage to reckless child's play a platform for accusation impunity?
Do process has lost its sheen? I mean it's crazy too, because,
like I was saying, he I mean, both him and
Madonna deny that like he like abused her. But there
are plenty of reports of people like pulling up to
the scene and seeing a distraught Madonna who I think
(54:31):
was bloodied or whatever, supposedly allegedly by Seampinn. And yet
it's not his fault in the sense that he has
not lived in anything approaching reality for quite some thirty
years at the very least. And so people who are
this famous are just gonna do embarrassing ship and you
know they definitely don't live in It's a tough break, Yeah,
(54:53):
I do. This is inevitable. I should say it is
his fault, but it's inevitable, there's nobody there to be
like looking at his first draft of this book, even
though who knows if he even thought he needed someone
to look at it and be like, this actually isn't
very good. We maybe need to work on some of
the dialogue to make it more realistic, like real people talk.
This is how people talk. Man. I was in the
(55:14):
back of a Lincoln with Matthew McConaughey yesterday talking about
like how cool it is to like, every once in
a while drive like a gas car. Whoa um. And finally,
uh so, the origin story of the book might be
the best part. The origins of the book began with
an audio book Sean Penn performed, claiming it was written
(55:37):
by Pappy Pariah, a novelist he quote met at a
bar in Key West was known as Papa Hemingway and
that's where he lived in Key West, and Sean Penn
is also the Hemmingway of our generation. So in the
(55:58):
initials are pp and trump like, so it's so deep,
it's it's it's crazy, man, you know, And again we
are blessed to have you know, people like Salmon Rushdie
put a fucking quote on the front of that book
that says it seems wrong to say that's so dystopian.
A novel is great, fun to read, but it's true.
(56:19):
I suspect that Thomas Pinchion and Hunter S. Thompson would
love this book. Okay. I could just see him, like
he's sitting at a bar drinking some drink and Key
West and he's like, yeah, oh, if you don't think
that conversation happened with him playing both sides, Yeah yeah,
he's like he's realizing it. I mean, people love your voice.
(56:42):
I mean they do. I mean, so maybe we should
do the audiobook version first. I think this is crazy
enough to work. Oh are you like, hey, assholes, stop
talking to yourself. You're out out what I tell you
last week? Ryan, it's been a this has been correct.
Thanks for having me. Where can people find you? Follow you?
(57:04):
They can find me on Ryan Singer Comedy dot com. Uh,
they can see. Uh, there's a link to my new
book that I just came out. I put a replica
of to my knowledge, the first time a comedian has
put out their notebook, So people can see what it's
like to look inside of comedian's notebook if they so choose.
It's kind of an art comedy book that I really like,
so they can check out on an Amazon self release.
(57:25):
Ryan Singer Comedy dot com got links to everything Rice
sing ont He brought us a copy. It is dope.
Check it out. Miles. Where can people find you? Yeah,
you can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles Great.
You find me a Jack Underscore O'Brien on Twitter. You
can find us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter. We're at
the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan
page and a website, Daily zeitgeist dot com where we
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post our episodes and their foot or link off to
the information contained in today's episode. That is going to
do it for today? Miles, Do you have a song
to write it out on? Yes? Uh, you know, I
just want to as Sean Penn was saying, uh, since
the me Too movement hasn't fantilized everything, I just want
to play a song by Slammed the Family Stone called
(58:09):
just Like a Baby, because you know, it just got
a great vibe to it, and just remember strum free Thursday,
So just vibe out, uh, and you know, listen to
Slide let him fill your soul with his torture. Torture voice.
All right, that's gonna do it for today. We will
be back tomorrow because it is the daily podcast. Talk
to you guys though, Just like good baby cry, just
(59:14):
like good baby m hm, I can't feeling like oh
(59:38):
ain't here. Oh yeah, just like company and just like company,
(01:00:57):
just like a baby, just like a baby. To be
(01:01:22):
right to queen, yea she who when h I S
(01:03:00):
M I T Yeah, but we yea
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