September 16, 2022 • 62 mins
In episode 1332, Jack and Miles are joined by author and host of Alison Rosen Is Your New Best Friend, Alison Rosen, to discuss... the Rail Workers negotiations... the US being down with unions now?... the chess grandmaster anal bead conspiracy theory... the return of the REAL king: Taco Bell's Mexican Pizza and more!
1.Rail worker negotiations to avoid strike
2.U.S. Approval of Labor Unions at Highest Point Since 1965
3.The Chess Grandmaster Anal Bead Conspiracy, Explained.
4.Taco Bell Just Premiered 'Mexican Pizza: The Musical' on Tik Tok
5.Taco Bell Brings Back Mexican Pizza, But With One Problem
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to fifty four,
episode five of production of I Heart Radio. This is
a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's
share consciousness. And it is Friday, September two, which of
course means it is the Prince Harry's Birthday day after
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Yuh Harry's b Day plus one. As they say, It's
also National Cinnamon Raising Bread Day, National Guacamole Day, National
Step Family Day, National Playdad Day, Working Parents Day, Trades
mid Day, and po w m I a recognition day
shout out to and Mayflower Day. I guess we're just
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talking about how shitty rocks. The big rock. It could
be any in jail, could be any fucking rock. Yeah,
you know, like you could. I feel like you could
show ninety nine out of a hundred people, just some
random rock roughly the same size, and like oh wow that.
Oh think Mayflower might might be in may But maybe
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maybe it doesn't do with when they landed or when
Plymouth rock Land actually when they set sail time on
that day. Well, speaking of England, my name is Jack O'Brien,
a k Mr sausage hands was afraid of non white
when his son married one told his grandkids goodbye. He
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waited his whole damn life for his mom to die,
and as the crown touched down, he thought, well, isn't
this rubbish? And isn't it a monarch? Don't you think
it's like raining? And the rain is about ari I
g And that is courtesy Liam Howard, little old the man,
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the King, long lived, the King Charles, and I'm thrilled
to be joined as always by my co host, Mr
Miles Grass. Miles Grand. Yes, I am feeling a bit
monarchical today, if that's a word, and I will just
go by my formal name, the Lord of lancershim Boulevard.
Thank you so much for having me. I am here
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great to be here. I am really wonderful to have
you here. Thank you, thank you. Congratulations on your are
we acknowledging? Yeah? Congratulations a year older man, Jack you better.
The show almost ended when you didn't acknowledge it on
a fucking oh boy, not today. I didn't know if
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we were saying the year, but you are twenty seven today,
and congratulations sir um yeah wait what is that? How old?
I am? Yeah? Thank you? Wow. That was such a
that caught me so off guard for that joke. In spirit, yes, oh,
in spirit. Honestly, I think I'm like fourteen. Have you
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ever done the thing where you're like, how and how
old are you? Someone did that to me, by the way,
on my birthday when we went out to eat. They
were like, and this guy must be what thirty two?
I was like, that's not low enough for it to
be funny. Okay, yeah, but have you ever done that?
And they like go with it and you just have
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to keep going and be like, yeah, I truly thought
you were one years old my service service industry days
and I was like, how old do you think I'm
turning today? I was like twenty one and they were like,
I can't believe you think I'm twenty one. Amazing sea. Anyways,
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I was seen too much. I was a disaster as
a pool boy, end waiter, just the worst. You think.
I'm like, I don't know, yes, I am, Okay, that's right.
Do you want another beer? Amazing Well, Miles. We were
thrown to be joining our third seat by very funny
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and talent and podcast or author TV personality. She's the
author of the book Tropical Attire, Encouraged and other phrases
that scare Me hosts the podcasts Alison Rosen as your
new best friend Childish and Upworthy Weekly. Please welcome, be hilarious,
be brilliant Allison Roses Hello, it's so nice to be here.
I consider myself the duchess of Zeitguys, happy births before you. Yeah,
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I'm speaking to my more duchess voice now, um, more
proper and princess Lee. Wait, I have got to know
what kind of like terrible pool boy were you, because
to me, the only things that you could do wrong
as a pool boy would be like sleep with the
lady of the house and then also not skim ship
out of the pool correctly. I was at a hotel, um,
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but I slept with all the ladies of the house.
I was bad at small talk, and I guess, like
sometimes people, that's good for a lot of people to
just have somebody who's like quiet and there with a
dry towel. Um, But there there are also people who
want to like chat it up. And then I don't
think I paid much attention to the pH balance of
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the pool and people's One time the power went down,
there was a blackout in New York City the year
the summer that I was a pool boy and everybody
came to the pool and within like forty five minutes
it was like the color of milk. And I think
that was on my ass for I was like, oh
damn that that looks weird, right, guys, They're like, yeah,
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aren't you don't you work here? What did they put
in the pool? Was it their sunscreen or their skin
or something? I think it must have been sunscreen. I'm
hoping at sunscreen. That was my That was my hope.
What else could it be? Ejaculant? Yeah, yeah, yeah, more rope?
Oh god, look I was a pool boy too. You know,
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what are you gonna do? You're like, oh, no, it
ain't it ain't that. Don't worry folks. Just yeah, somebody
spilled like oil. And there's always like when people go
like canning oil though too. Yeah, like a nice slick
oil slick on top. And you're like, wow, we've been
on this waiting list for uh since before no, since
the pandemic to get my kids swim lessons from this
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like very coveted swim teacher in the valley. Uh. And
he has this rule that he's like, I can't have
sunscreen in my pool and everyone just goes along with it,
like we all will risk melanoma to have our kids
to swim from this guy because apparently it does just
create a slick in the pool. Yeah, I don't know.
Maybe that is what happened. Yeah, it's it's who knows.
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I mean. Also, why is this person so coveted? Like
what what kind of techniques are we talking here? Yeah?
I I don't He's like the swim whisper. There are
thousands of those in l A and they are all
equally like highly rated. I feel like, yeah, a great
racket to have, but they also all have crazy wait
list right now. Yeah. Yeah, I remember when I met
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the guy who taught your kids how to swim Jack
and I was like, I want him to teach me
how to fucking live. He had like such a good vibe.
I was like, damn, I thought of the time I
went to like swim class once they just threw me
fucking in and I was traumatized for the rest of
my life, like that is the way they used to
do it. Yeah, And I fucking hated getting in pools
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and ship because I always associated with like struggling underneath
the water. Uh. And then like a celebratory can of
r C cola, which was not enough. Giving you something better, yeah,
like valium. Yeah. We we had a swim teacher who,
like I was like, this is my new guru, just
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because they were like soothing, Yeah, so soothing and the
way he interacted with the kids was great. Anyways, swim teach,
what kind of money is that? What kind of money
you like? Can you grind it out doing those swim lessons?
I'm sure? Yeah. So the dude who I'm talking about,
who was my guru, Bill, I'm gonna go put put
his name out there, all right, Uh swim to Bill? Yeah,
(08:03):
I think that's the guy. Yeah, okay, now you're doing
a free played this episode for him, played this episode,
but he would he would pull up in his tesla,
get out of his car, still wet from the last lesson,
get right into the pool that we were at, and
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just teach a lesson. Pop out. You have to have
it a warm temperature, so it's not like I'm sure
that's both for him and for you know kids. Uh
don't don't like it the cold. I like else. The
idea that when he also gets out, he makes his
hand into a pistol and blows the barrel like yeah,
like just because he's on fire and he's he's great though,
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You're gonna love it anyway. I mean we we we
were all set and then our lessons got canceled right
when the pandemic happened. And then we've been trying to
get back into his womb like degree pool every since
and it hasn't happened. And if you do end up
working with him, could you tell him I said, Hi, Okay,
(09:08):
thank you. That would mean a lot and be like
who Anyways, Uh, we're gonna get to know you a
little bit better in a moment. First, we're gonna tell
our listeners a couple of things we're talking about. Uh,
there is good news on the rails in terms of
the rail strike being averted by concessions to the workers
that it appears to be um, some progress was made,
(09:31):
So we're gonna talk about that. In America's rising approval
of unions, maybe that being part of the story there. Uh,
we're gonna talk about some bad news from the world.
A chess is a little cheating scandal that involves buttholes somehow. Um,
we're going to talk about King Charles. The third being
(09:53):
bad for the monarchy, good for comedy. Um, so, well,
we'll talk about that me up to. Yeah, he's a
huge there the whole family there. He's a big believer
in vibes, vibes in his ability. He thinks of himself
as a healer. That is something that he's Oh, so
(10:15):
you're a literal savior Pratt Daddy crystals sold by Spencer Pratt. Oh,
that would be. I feel like they're in the same
family of humans. Yeah. I do have the same birthday
as Heidi Prat. Wow, you have a name on We
talked about that on yesterday's Trending. But you have one
of the ten most popular birthdays in America. Also, uh,
(10:39):
what's what's her face? Uh? Dina Lohan? Damn, you got
all the all the queens. But before we get to
any of that, ship Allison, we like to ask our
guest what is something from your search history. It was
very hard for me to choose because my search history
has been a real cornucopia. I have been, I guess,
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very inquisitive lately and lacking info. But I chose God,
It's very hard for me. There's so many things which
I feel reveal so much, but I googled bitch and
also beniche because I recently have come across both these words. Uh,
they're both fun Internet spellings of bitch, and they both
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go back to like one of them goes back to
twenty nineteen, one of them goes back to and I
feel I am just look, I'm not young, I'm not
twenty seven like Miles at the oldest. Thank you and
now you have to go along with it service days.
(11:43):
But yeah, I feel like like I have looked up
based and I don't mean the you know Oxford English
Dictionary definition, like it's a book is based on or
you know the movie is based on, because I keep
seeing like when I see based, I'm like, is that
a misspelling of biased? And I still don't know what
based means this internet lingo like look awesome sauce, I
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can't stand it, awesome balls, I can't stand it, but
I know what it means based. I cannot keep it
in my head what that means. And so there's plenty
of internet usage that I don't know what it means,
and I'm late to it. So bench and bitch if
bench might have just been a misspelling, yes, and it's
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just a way a cute way of saying bitch. And
I don't know if it is to avoid some kind
of like uh yeah, but I guess it's been going
on for a while, but it was that kind of
thing where all of a sudden I started seeing it
a lot, and I'm like, is this the new thing?
But no, it's the old thing. But somehow I only
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just started seeing it, right, I take it you have
you guys have not seen it and your hip I
feel like, maybe, like in a YouTube comment, I mean
based Obviously that's very shorthand, especially when people are getting
off their political takes or whatever. You say that to say,
like you agree with somebody you know, uh and you know,
(13:13):
well you know, I don't know if you remember a
little bit the base God. Remember base God a little
bit bad um, But that was just kind of a
classic bench more than based God. Really, this is how
we how we honor little be But yeah, I mean
like you just say, like, you know, if you agree
with some ship, you're like, oh, that's based, or like
if somebody said how to take you agree with, you
be like, okay, based Biden, mm hmm. I I appreciate
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the courage of of coming in revealing this, this is
and this is big for me too, because I I
can admit that I've looked up CAPD like overdrive like extreme.
I was like, uh huh, I think Miles used. I
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was like, yeah, I know, I got that. I got that.
How does base mean that? Though? I don't get it honestly,
I'm I feel like the first time, honestly I heard
it was because of litl be the base gud. And
more times you say it, the more times it doesn't.
It still does still not make that, says the old
white lady. Yeah, I mean, it's just saying that like that,
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but that's how words come Look, somebody I'm sure has
the real Internet etymology of where it came up. But
I mean that was always just about being like just
doing you you know, so it just means you strongly
agree with it. Yeah, but if yeah, exactly. Yeah. If
someone put like, you know, like fucking Maga is a
cult like and you know, let's say like Nancy Pelosi
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was so brave to tweet that people like based my
based queen, because for some reason it always sounds to
me like I think because my brain wants it to
mean biased. That's how I read it. I always think
it's someone disagreeing. Look, you know that's why at a
certain point, like you can just you can just know
that they're there and just leave them. You know, No,
(15:04):
I gotta use them. Get I gotta get in the
mixed based in the building. Okay, yeah, I gotta say
your true age. You know how the NBA has true
shooting percentage. Your true Internet podcast age just ticked up
to twenty four from me from I just gotta keep
(15:24):
you abreast of Yeah, um, what is What's something you
think is underrated? Underrated? Were overrated? Overrated? Fong underwear? Okay, yeah,
I feel strongly that it is so so uncomfortable, and
(15:49):
I want my life's work. If I die and one
woman pulled her thong underwear out of her butt and
recognized that it was uncomfort r bole, and she instead
chose a full seat pair of underwear, my life will
have meant something. Because I frequently hear women go like,
(16:10):
either I find it comfortable or like it's just gonna
end up in my butt anyway. No, underwe doesn't have
to be like this lady's. If my underwear is in
my butt, it is a problem that I am seeking. Yeah,
it's kind of it's it's a prank, it's hazing, Like
(16:33):
we flip flops are fine, but imagine if there was
an orifice between your toes. It would be uncomfortable if
there was that flip flop in there, just running against that.
It's what I remember like in high school, always seeing
them like damn, like doesn't that suck to wear like
(16:54):
a thong? And then like my classmates are like, I
don't know, you get used to it? And I was like,
I don't know how the funk I would I used to? What?
We don't have to live like this late who's like
a famous consciousness raiser. I want to raise conscious I
want to be like the Betty for Dan of Underwear lady.
Because I sat there, no cap. I sat there yesterday
(17:15):
with my underwear and I was just trying to figure out, like,
is there anyway I could get used to a thong?
And I tried to and I sat there and I
just like put it in my butt, pulled it out,
and I tried to figure out, like where is the
discomfort coming from? And it's really this is too much information,
but it's really down near the the anus, like up high, yeah,
(17:37):
up high. If that's creeping into the crack. That's not
really a problem, but it's just like down below that
we it really needs to not be near the action.
So anyway, I just feel, you know what, let's just
accept pantylines not a problem. We deserve comfort. Life's too short.
Pull that underwear out of your crap. I rest my case.
(18:01):
There it is. I'm gonna extend that to also, I
think thong sandals are pretty uncomfortable. I like them. I
like them. I don't like that. I don't like having
that ship in between my toes, right, you know what's
and it's funny that you say that, my fuddo that
you would be you get used to it, Yeah, exactly.
That's the thing. Is like the only time I've ever
liked it was like a year when I wore out
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of a lot of those, And but when I first
put that in, I'm just like, I don't like it.
Oh yeah, you always like where that where? Stuff like that.
The shoes have you heard shoes? Like there's nothing in
between those. I don't like that. I mean, I feel
like the weird end around product is like you create
like weird patches for your thong to make it like less,
(18:46):
you know, impactful on your ainus, you know, like a
sticker or something like some kind of attachment, like someone
put a band aid between their toes to deal with
the thong. You put a band aid over your ass cracks.
So you go in there there it is. You go
for something by pass. So it's coming out somewhere else,
(19:07):
right right right, I like a nice big baggy thong.
That's what I'm looking for, you know. Yes, So it's
just daying. So it's just what's the point at that point?
It's just like a jewelry at that pointe. Yeah, it
looks like the cables behind the stage with the curtains
on a theater. Yeah, don't trip coiled on the ground.
(19:29):
Who are who are walking by me? Yeah? And you're
not using the slang. It's not like no cap and
you're saying don't trip and yeah, well don't bug right,
they literally don't trip on your thongstrap. That's as long
as the kitchen corded phone cable that armand exactly what
is something you think is underrated? Diet soda? Uh? Consistent?
(19:54):
Very popular? ID you're consistent? Yeah, listen is the deal?
Have you tried it? It's so good. It's so much.
It is so much better than water. It's not even close.
Oh my god, this I feel about it. No, I
(20:16):
mean in some not that it's exact same thing, but
I feel like this has been something I'm You're like, yeah,
I think waters all right, but you're like the fucking
diet though I don't know. Did I say water was overrated?
I do feel water is overrated. Um, here's the thing.
I was off of diet soda and I'm not even
(20:37):
talking about diet coke or coke zero ever since I
had clear braces as a teenager. The braces themselves didn't stain,
but the rubber bands did. I'm a fan of the
clear diet option, and I got off of them for
a long time, and I was drinking water like all
(20:58):
the other human being and now I don't like it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Just I'm an automaton. I drink water good, I get up,
I go through my dit, you know, like a ROBOTSI
of no, do you enjoy if you enjoy water? That
was an impression of you. But anyway, I recently backslid.
(21:20):
Now I'm drinking died seven up again, and oh my god,
if you guys tried this stuff. Seriously, I had forgotten
how good it was. Like I realized I sound like
someone who is like doing Heroin again, and I'm like,
oh my god, have you tried it? It really takes
all your pain away. It's so good. But like, oh
(21:41):
my god, I it's so much better than water. Everyone triet.
It is really so good refreshing. It's Chris, it's first quenching.
Now when I go to bed, I put a can
of it next to my bed along with my both
the middle and it's so bad this So you don't
(22:05):
mind it being a little warm. You you'll take a
warm bad you guys. And I'm now I'm embarrassing. You
got kids, Allison, You got kids, and you're living like that.
You prefer the bed like that? How does that work?
So you don't wake You're like fuctually actually because I
(22:28):
don't want to wake up my husband and I don't
want him to know. Um, I have it in a
camel pack under my pillow. I slept through the night
and I didn't crack the can and I woke up
and I was like, good for me, that warm. I
feel like warm beverages like really forces you to take
in the full flavor profile of a thing worth and all. So,
(22:53):
I mean it's a true devotee. Too warm a drink
needs to be down to drink it, like room tent
room tip. I don't yeah, I don't want it hot. Sure, Okay,
well we're making progress. I don't want to like swim
to Bill's pool right right right, you know room temper below. Yeah, okay,
(23:16):
this is a cry for help. You should when I
think it's going to get up to like the nineties
and like a week, leave a can out for a
few hours in the sun and drink it and see
if you get superpowers. I feel like you might based
on what just like how you're how energized you are
talking about. I feel like something with the sun's energy
(23:37):
just beamed into it might take it up a notch.
Just try just there. Like a theory you had about
one flavor of Lacroix that was really good warmed up.
Oh yeah, passion fruit. It's an air freshener. Yeah. If
you leave a passion fruit Lacroix opening at fantastic, it's easy.
(23:58):
These are life packs of the our world crumbling into
climate change. Yeah, exactly, see passion fruit Lacroix. I don't
and I don't really like Lacroix, but the Passion Fruit
especially has like almost a a musky funk to it. Sorry,
say more, we're a musky funky show. But you guys
like that flavor, I take it. Yeah, And also shout
(24:21):
out to our band, Musky funk uh elon musk fronted
funk band. We're really great. Check up. All right, let's
take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk about
less important things. We'll be right back to play that
funky music mind boy, And we're back, and we have
(24:50):
an update on the rail strike story that we were
talking about on yesterday's episode, because you know, we're talking
about the fact that a lot of the corporate media
and the business media You're Bloomsburg and other, you know,
outlets like that, pushed the panic. And now the latest
(25:11):
story coming out of mainstream media, like the AP, for instance,
is like we found a deal. We we got a deal.
People are hearing from union members. It's not so clean
cut and they seem still like kind of unhappy. So
the deal hasn't been ratified, but the way the AP
is reporting is like the rail strike has been averted,
(25:33):
And I don't know, it at least seems positive that
it's going in that direction and not like bring Congress
in and your medical procedures, you must work now. And
I don't know, Like when you look at the deal terms,
the thing that's being front loaded in the news stories
is raises and you know, them making decent money because
(25:57):
of this deal that they're offering the unions. But the
you get a few paragraphs down and the details of
like how bleak the situation is that they're trying to
work their way out of is somewhat crazy. I'll just
read directly from this AP story. The deal includes one
additional paid leave day a year, but railroads also agreed
(26:19):
to let workers take unpaid time off for doctor's appointments
and medical procedures without being penalized under their attendance rules. Yeah,
so like you you're allowed to see the doctor, you
better not see the doctor, right, Like that's sort of
the tone of like, okay, well, if you have a
human body that degrades, that's not your Yeah. And a
(26:43):
lot of people have talked about the fallout, like the
personal fallout, like how many marriages have even like crumbled
because of this ship like and how like it's just
created like a mental health crisis with people too, because
they're truly in this place like I don't know if
I can of my life tomorrow. And yeah, it's a small,
small victory, but I think I also would hope that
(27:06):
rather than because right now everyone's like, yeah, all right,
they fucking figured something out, it should be yo, shame
on these fucking railroad companies for holding the economy hostage
and like trying to get it to this point with
their brinksmanship over profits. Like that's really disgusting and like
you're saying, just like when you look at what the
minimum that they're getting now, it's like that's a fucking
(27:27):
bleak life and there should be more, like, you know,
shame on you shit, you know, being that kind of
energy being pointed at the railroad should shame them, Yeah,
for shame for shame A hearty tisk tiscum, do you
think you're so cool? You're not there? It is, But
I just feel like this is very important information for
(27:50):
everyone to know as we head into you know, a
rolling news story that's going to be with us for
years and years of like you are our bucks and
Amazon's you know, ramping up the we're a family, you
don't need unions, like unions are bad rhetoric that like,
when it comes down to it, the thing unions are
fighting for are letting people go to doctors appointments without
(28:14):
getting fired. Like that's that is truly wild inhumane ship
that corporations are like going to the mat over, you know,
left to their own devices, they'll force people to work
sick and not allow them to get medical procedures. Yeah. Hey,
you know, also just looking like you're saying like good
time for you know, pro union sentiment, you know. But again,
(28:37):
just to reiterate, this is the thing that the you know,
employer classes the fucking is so frightened by. There's people
that work for them just being like, hey man, what
if we organized our ship and flexed our power because
actually the whole equation is without us, they don't make ship. Yeah.
One thing I do want to just touch on with
the with the rail thing is that it hasn't been
(28:59):
ratified idea, so it is a tentative agreement. It very
well could go in front of the union members and
they're like this still is not enough. So it's it's
important to know, like where although there's there is a
tentative agreement, they could be right back at having to
advocate for themselves again, in which case we should be
prepared to not be like I thought it was over right.
But just generally, America's approval of labor unions is at
(29:21):
sixty percent after being at forty eight percent in two
thousand nine, which was an all time low. Um. And
I do think that is significance like when Reagan significant
like when Reagan fired all the air traffic controllers and
professionals in the early eighties, general sentiment about unions was
that a decades low, like the lowest it have been
(29:43):
for forty years. So I I do think that that
informs how politicians behave and how you know, how things
like this go, and also how the companies behave, right
like just recognizing that they can't do what John Dear
did last year were they tried to fire all their
(30:04):
employees they were striking, and brought in themselves the executives
to try and do the work in factories. Again, just
like very I think the sorts of stories that are
probably driving the rise and popularity of of unions that
and like what like from that story yesterday where you know,
(30:24):
we hear it constantly, the pandemic really fucking like that
that momentary pause where people were like, wait, what, oh,
I I can't toil, Like we're not able to toil
because of quarantine. That suddenly a lot of values shifted
and a lot of people began to really like have
a reckoning with this idea of like you just fucking
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work to live and that's it, Like that's all it
can be. And I think it's great that. I think
the byproduct of that are more and more people realizing, well,
if I don't want to do this, what's the path
to do that? And if that's through collective organizing, and
then so be it. That's why I'm back on diet
seven up. I'm like, really, my life is short, that's right.
I want to I don't want to just drink water.
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Man um. What do you think accounted for such a
low opinion of unions. I think we had a long
run of just monolithic messaging from the media, like from
the Clinton you know, Reagan Clinton, like up through Bush
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like that everything was just this pro corporate like corporations
are going to take care of everything as long as
like America's economy is up in like Wall Street is humming,
Like that is the marker of like how healthy the
society is. And you know, two thousand nine was the
year after everyone was like wait, what the what the
(31:48):
fun like like you were saying with the pandemic. I
think the financial crash in two thousand and eight was
like America coming to in the middle of a blackout,
being like whoa, where where am I? What? What was
happening here? Who are all these creepy people in masks
around me? In a circle of candles? So is it
(32:10):
like the the anti union sentiment? Perhaps this is probably
over supplication, but like stems from this like I'm going
to go out and be an individual billionaire. I'm not
gonna be a socialist. I mean there's also two like
in two thousand nine. I think it's interesting because I
think there's the bailout for the auto industry and that
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like the sentiment was sort of like I think the
biggest thing was that unions only benefit those people, So
I don't fucking need them and they're not important and
I'm not packed into the idea that people deserve better
because right now everybody got fucked in two thousand and eight,
so coming off the heels that like why did that
whole industry get bailed out? And then I think from
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there you're able to even massage the narrative even further
and have pundits on TV being like, well, this is
the problem with unions and like reinforce this message. And
I think like the biggest benefit now is even if
you're not in a fucking union, you can empathize. You'll
look at your own working situation and be like, damn,
I wish we had it better. Yeah, fuck yeah, I like,
what the fuck? Yeah, these people fighting for themselves. I
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funk with that because I'm I'm tapped into my own
fight as well. And I think that's I think that's
probably one of the biggest changes too, for sure. Yeah,
And the people who unions are most popular with people
who are in unions and right, and like, you know,
all all the talking about once you're in the union,
like they're going to charge you all these fees and
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you're gonna the people. You know. It's currently eighty six
percent of union members approved unions. It was ninety three
very recently. Like it's just incredibly high. Uh, And it's
unpopular with Republicans they're the only people who fall below
fift in terms of union approval. So it also feels
(33:57):
like this is an area where like big D demo
crats are maybe getting the message that they have a
winner here. You know, it's like a political winner tied
in with being the right thing and a thing that
works for you know, us workers and like just American
in general. Is like taking care of people because they
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don't milk that though, you know that, like just give
them a little bit, don't go all the way They're right,
don't go all the way there, because if we know
how to properly squeeze the berry, then you don't you know. Yeah,
and again you know, this is not an end zone
dance because we don't know what what is going to
ultimately happen here. But it does seem promising at least
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that you know, the ap like a very mainstream news
source has this article up that is just you know,
nakedly showing what looks like a win for union membership
at a time when the corporate media what wants us
to believe that Starbucks and Amazon workers like that that
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to both sides the thing, so well, it doesn't seem
to be both sides. The once people are in a union,
they seem to be pretty happy that, uh, they are
treated like human beings. So, Miles, you said, properly squeeze
the berry. Is that some hipne slam? That's just me
being a berry juice fanatic, you know, just don't don't.
(35:20):
There's still good juice in there, you know. Yeah, which
berrier are we talking about? Uh? In my mind, it's
actually it's like it's like a cartoon one. It's like
very non specific, but it's like bluish purple, and you're like,
it's like a little juice drop coming out the bottom
when you squeeze it, but not too much because it's
like a couple of drips in that thing. Was sort
of what I was evoking. Yeah, yeah, I'm picturing like
(35:41):
a big cartoon like blueberry plum situation. Yeah, yeah, for sure,
I'm not. I don't know enough about berries to think
of what you could actually juice like that, So it's
all I revert to Hannah Barbera or Warner Brothers cartoons.
All right, let's take a quick break. We'll come back.
We'll talk chess, maybe even get to Prince Slash Kings,
(36:04):
King Chucky and we're back and Magnus Carlson is chess grandmaster.
Magnus Massive had a fifty three game unbeaten streak going
(36:28):
fairly recently. I don't know, did you. Did you guys
watch that documentary about him back when Netflix only had
like a good documentary every month. I saw part of
it and I was just kind of like, alright, I
like searching for Bobby Fisher and fresh my chess movie.
That's my chest content. Um. But anyways, he's a prodigy
(36:51):
and he has cool hair, and those things came together
to make him sort of a national celebrity. Um, and
he's continued to be. But he just got beat by
a random nineteen year old American Hans and Nemon. It's
really interesting. So this apparently fucking set the whole chess
world on fire when he lost, because it's a huge
(37:14):
upset and pretty much like on paper, the biggest because
going into this tournament, Neiman was I think the lowest
ranked player there. So it's like literally top top, like
bottom beating top on the fucking ranking chart. And after
the laws Carlson like withdrew from the tournament in dramatic fashion,
and he tweeted this like video clip of the football
(37:34):
manager Jose Marino, who he would like he's like a
salty coach who like when he loses, would always say
ship to get him in trouble. So there's this clip
of Jose Marino being asked about like the officiating in
the match that he felt like his team got robbed,
and he's like, if I say anything more, I'll get
in big, big trouble, So I prefer to say nothing.
And he tweets that and everyone's like, Yo, what's he
trying to say? Like what could he say? What's he
(37:56):
trying to imply here? And that just set off like
a way of conspiracy theories, and they were all kinds
of accusations against him, Like for example, they say, oh,
he might have had a shoe computer, and you're like
that like something that was clearly uh messaging him or
(38:18):
giving him like some kind of signal on how to
move the chess pieces. The superiority of shoes over flip flaps,
by the way, But that's true, that's true, okay, okay.
I mean the technology could get advanced though, and that
little bit that rests between your toes, that's where the
stimulation comes from. I don't know think about it cheaters.
(38:39):
Another one was that Carlson's like someone in Carlson's like
circle had like leaked his preparations, and so, uh, this
guy was able to like prepare like to the like
no exactly what the funk he was going to do,
and that's how he was able to defeat him. Is
that how chess works? Like if somebody I guess, I
guess it's I think because there's certain reparation, certain ways
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of playing. People were saying, like the line that he
or whatever the strategy that Neiman took was like one
that maybe Carlson wasn't like absolutely not preparing for at all,
and that's why he was caught off guard. I have
no I saw the Queen's gamb but and my understanding
is you take drugs and then stare at the ceiling. Yeah,
have you guys seen that? That's how you prepare. I
mean I've been doing that even without a chessboard in
(39:22):
front um and it and it works. Folks. I'm one
of the best players out there. But then after the
plans were leaked or the shoe computer, people were just
like yeah, maybe maybe, and then like this this other
fucking theory came up that perhaps the guy was using
vibrating anal beads uh to actually signal what move to make.
(39:47):
I'm just you know, thought right, right right, and let
me just play this. He can hear like this guy
is clear on a chess live stream, and I think
he's like fielding, like he's like, yeah, I could see
this or this that, and someone is you know, suggesting
this and he's like mmmmmmmmmmmm, that's probably a good one, right,
and anal bead probably would beat the thing. I'm serious
if the engine I but probably I don't know. I
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really don't know, like think about it. I I don't know.
I think I told you was a prostmus but I'm
not an expert that stuff. I don't know what's going
on in his chat. An'll beat, Yeah, he's getting his
mind around it. Just a remote anal ben. He was
saying that that would be connected to like a fucking
(40:34):
chess playing AI. So they like someone somehow could be
feeding like the real time analysis to his vibrating anal bead,
which would then tell him where to move the chess piece.
So everyone is really stretching to try and explain like
how this kid went from zero to hero overnight, and
a lot of people point that, like it's possible because
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he admitted when he was like a lot younger, when
he was a kid, that he admitted to using like
a chess program that his friend was running during an
online tournament, which is like really frowned upon because it's
all supposed to be like a fucking brain measuring contest.
But there's also plenty to suggest that he's also like
a talented player that has been consistently outperforming his like
official player rating. So I don't know. Now there's people
(41:18):
calling for him to prove he wasn't cheating, even though
like like he says, it's like the proof is in
the game. Well, he said, look, what do you want
to do? Play button naked? I will but naked, but
we are going to need to have somebody with a
you know, somebody who's willing to do a press state
massage during the course of the thing, right, or or
a see through chair at the very least, Yeah, you
(41:42):
know you can see his butth hole. I don't know,
I don't know. For it to work, you have to
do like an actual like like jail intake fucking procedure
to be like all right, now, spreadet cheeks, squad, cough,
open your mouth, stick your tongue out, Like that's I mean,
if that is that where we're added, I don't think so,
(42:03):
but it's it's possible. Um there is a naturally one
of the biggest porn camp sites is offering him quote
up to one million dollars. I'm not sure how that
offer works to play naked on their site, so um there.
I mean, there's a bunch of interesting stuff here, Like
Chess is becoming very popular. I've heard it attributed to
(42:24):
the Queen's Gambit and uh, you know, a bunch of things.
But it feels like it's like, have you guys heard
of this new online game everyone's playing chess dot com.
Like my six year olds obsessed with chess, like all
a bunch of his friends are. There's a booming Yeah, yeah,
there's like his friend is like obsessed with Chess and
(42:47):
Minecraft like entreats them interchangeably. Um. So it's it definitely
seems like a thing that is becoming more popular and
is also becoming more online. And becoming more online, We're
going to see more stuff like uh, conspiracy theories and
involving vibrating anal beads popping up. Because go back to
(43:10):
the vibrating anial beads. The second the remote. First of all,
the remote, that's how this they're able to signal the
a I just you know, regular plug in anal beads
that vibrate the remote remote. You know what does that mean?
They're like an antenna, like you could signal it like
like someone else can control when vibrate somehow, someone's on
a like feeding the moves into a board that like
(43:35):
then you know, computers are still i think, the best
at chess, so you can get the best possible move
and then communicate that back to his anus. And it's
a computer doing that, or there's uh, there's someone who's
I'm assuming he would have somebody someone who's watching the
board feeding it. Yeah, so this is all happening so fast.
(43:57):
But like that means he would have had to pray
this with the bead to know whatever the like like
Morse code or the length of the vibration. You would
think that watching the film film the film I did
it on film. Watching the match, you would see him
like you know, like pivot or move or do some
(44:19):
thinking or gesture or grimace or something because he's getting
you know, and that is what's interesting is he does
go before everyone of those moves, so like he's verbalizing
the vibration is suspicious. Then that does make me think,
(44:40):
I mean, yeah, I don't I mean, because you just
have like okay, isn't it like E C two to
C four type of how could how could a bead
communicate all of that E two to E four? Like
what I mean, that's a lot of a lot of
buzzing that That's the thing that's scientists. So that's another
interesting angle, is that ensory inputs and like basically giving
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humans new senses is something that like kind of cutting
edge neurologists are experimenting with. Like they've done experiments where
people have a belt that lightly vibrates to the north,
what like at all times, and you just developed this
amazing innate sense of like true north essentially. And there's
(45:25):
they've also done experiments with um people who are hearing
impaired and like a vibrating like two dimensional thing on
the tongue that like vibrates with regards to different sounds
in it. Basically like once you have spent a lot
of time, it becomes a new sensory input that you
(45:47):
can kind of it just like plugs into your brain
like that. So that's the thing that I think we're
going to be seeing more and more of. And this
might just be the strange, uh, you know, very very
public first instance of it being used in a in
a very but you think there's so many like technologically
(46:09):
refined ways to do that, and they're like, yeah, man,
he's got a buzzing ball up his ass, like it
would be the best place to hide it. Though the
shoe computer is much more elegant. Really, shoe computer also
kind of a bummer though, you know, like it feels
a little bit like a shoot computer, Like what's it?
It doesn't sound, it's not Unfortunately it's not as exciting
(46:31):
to hear as remote anal beads true vibrating remote controlled
animal be using AI. Then computer really does excite the senses. Yeah,
shoe computer, I'm like, all right, Like I remember l
A gyears with that that the light up sucking souls
in the nineties and beyond. But it feel yeah, thank you. Also,
(46:55):
why do all chess guys look like crisis? Harry Styles?
Harry Styles has is at the end of his rope
after a very long like personal crisis of some sort.
The photo from the match, I'm like, none of these
guys have ever even touched their heads with their hands.
Like it's just like so feral, like, like Magnus has
(47:19):
always had like a big mop of hair that's like
very unruly, like sort of young Einstein esque. And my
my assumption is that because he had that hair and
became this iconoclastic like best in the world at chess,
that everybody else is probably trying to pull it off.
(47:40):
You'll notice that the person he's playing against who who
beat him, does not have the hair for it. Like
he's not he's not pulling it off as much as Magnus. Uh. Yeah,
it's like he's got like thinning hair and it's kind
of all it's not a great look for him, but
he's doing it. In my mind, Nieman's hair looks better
(48:02):
than Carlson's because Nieman looks disheveled, like he looks like
he's living that life. Okay, looks like he's like this
is my swag. Nieman looks like, yo, bro, I don't
have ship to do. Yeah, no, he is pulling it out.
I was probably a little bit. No, it's fine. It's
in the eye of the beholder, you know what I mean.
I mean, Neiman looks like there's something in his butt
(48:23):
that's vibrating. He's got a wild luck. He has covered
him as hard as he can. Okay, did I But yeah,
I don't know. We'll see if what if he sneezes.
(48:44):
He sneezes in it like like face off when he's
if you sneeze, your voice changes back because of that
computer chip. Yeah, these are the questions, like this is
the only story we're going to be covering for the
next a couple of months. As we get to the
bottom of it, Like someone could bring in a salad
(49:05):
and they'd be like fresh ground pepper and they're like, no,
totally foil the whole thing, right one of the Yeah,
they add like now mandatory moment in every chest match
someone tickles your nose with a feather. Oh, and that
would be embarrassing. And then he stands up after the
matches over and he walks in like they it will
be just falls out of his like pant leg and
(49:25):
it's like got you got you busted. I hate to
see it. All right, Well, we do have to talk
about the return of talk about his Mexican pizza h
officially back return of the King. The King we don't
we don't have time to dig into King Charles unfortunately.
(49:49):
Really now in in the remaining time, we do have
time to let you know the Mexican Pizza's officially back
this week. UM. You know resurrection that will presumably be
in the new New Testament, the Fourth Meal Testament one day. Um.
It did come with the accompanying Dolly Parton musical, as
as promised. UM. I think so. I didn't watch it.
(50:16):
It's one of those stories. It's like, oh, that's amazing,
what a like fun marketing idea, but then like I
would never actually like watch and um. Yeah. So when
we last discussed this, I was like, you know, Dolly
Parton had that interview and then they reached out and
they were like, we're gonna do a Dolly part musical
(50:37):
about how the Internet lost its mind when the Mexican
Pizza was axed in. And so the evidence that we
have that the Internet was really up in arms about
this was that there was an online petition that racked
up two hundred thousand signatures. UM. Put to put that
in perspective, there were two hundred thousand signatures to save Lucifer.
That Fox TV show might be it's liked that show. Yeah,
(51:01):
oh yeah, a lot of people big Lucifer fans. Yeah,
that's the show where the l A. P. D. Solves
crimes with the help of the devil. So check it out.
But yeah, anyways, I don't know if that petition was successful,
but the Mexican pizza petition has been successful. One story
is that they've updated the box with regards to these
(51:24):
it was two cumbersome. It was tucumbersome. They said that
it was like when they canceled the pizza in the
first place. The box accounted for over seven million pounds
of paperboard material per year in the US. It's like
they come in a paper anvil full on pizza box. Yeah,
(51:45):
Like I remember back in the day, it was not
in like a pizza box. It was in a way
shittier like single, like a just threw it at you, yea,
and we eat it just like a like a big frisbee.
It's like a like a very then paper box. It
would come in yeah and so and and then they
brought it back in May and it was still in
(52:07):
that same box, but now for the big relaunch, it's
in a slightly different mini pizza box. That is I
don't know. You guys can look at it here in
the docket. It just looks like a pizza box. Yeah,
that's too much. It's it's a lot of paper. It
doesn't seem like a cut down on on the amount
of paper. That's It's funny. I love Taco Bell, but
I can't have that much like tangible evidence around that.
(52:31):
I love it, you know, like the fucking papers that
wrapped my little tacos and stuff. I can fucking crump
condense that into a fucking density no one has ever
seen and then throw that away. The Taco Show put
it in an edible box. That's a great idea, right,
this is like, this is too much like I would
(52:51):
hate to see my neighbor like I'm pulling out my
recycling can. They're like, oh, the Mexican pizzas back, huh
because the lid doesn't shut show. I do feel like
when you're walking around the streets of Los Angeles, at
least you see like a lot of empty beer cans
and like empty you know, vape cartridges and empty like
(53:11):
things that are vice, and the food version of that
that I see the most is taco bell sauce packets
and stuff like right right, I do feel like, yeah,
people treat taco bell as though it is like drinking problem. Yeah,
like you're drinking that six pack like before you go
home in the coldest sac around from your house. Just
(53:33):
getting rid of the evidence by all means. Then it's all.
Then that neighbor has come up. Why do they always
drink here? Why do they always eat their taco bell here? Yeah,
it's always a message. There was like a spot like
that in the neighborhood I grew up, which is basically
like it was near the freeway, so there weren't really
any neighbors or ship and you just you just partied
by the freeway right there and left all your taco
bell and beer bottles. Yeah, okay, I'm not a fast
(53:54):
food person. And you know, given my type is diet seven,
you're not a fast food person. That's what I was
gonna say. You know, given my beverages that I do
not treat my body as a temple or anything. However,
I'm looking at pictures of the Mexican pizza and this
actually looks quite good. Oh it is, it is. It's
so good. It's spicy, though it's not that spicy. I mean,
(54:15):
you can everything at Taco Bell. At Taco Bell, I
feel like it's around the same level of spicy and less. Otherwise,
even the spicy chicken case ida is not spicy, you
know what I mean. It's just got at what they're doing,
like a one parsec of after taste and then it
goes away. But I mean that's where the fire sauce
comes in, which is why people are having to get
(54:36):
rid of the evidence. You have a Baha Blast before.
I haven't. Wow, kiss your family goodbye. Why am I
going to marry that instead tro a diet Baha Blast?
Do they have that? They must? Yeah, yeah, they have
(54:57):
diet Baha They have Baha Blast zero. I know that
for sure because I have in my refrigerant there. It is.
Just try it, you know, if you're willing to risk
it all I am. I'm telling you, I feel like
I'm like in a I'm really ready to throw it
all away, right for a drink, but not that kind
(55:18):
of drink, soft drink, for something truly something. I mean, honestly,
I honestly think this is probably worse for your body
than right now. So yeah, I will try a Baha blast.
It'll give you something. It'll give you something to think
about for sure. At the very least, um a little
Mexican pizza. Wash it down with the Blaha blast. Um.
The packaging actually looks so much like a pizza box
(55:42):
that I'm wondering if they are aware of how people
think about their food to the degree that they're like, look,
people think you're just eating a regular pizza from like
a pizza place, and that's acceptable. That's socially acceptable, as
opposed to the Mexican pizza, which is um, which is bomb. Dude,
what you got something to say? So I tried to
(56:04):
meet Mexican pizza shame me. Oh no, no, I'd have
time for them. Pizza Hut, you know, in a in
a little bit of synergistic marketing, Pizza Hut like did
a sort of buzz marketing thing where they were like, well,
we're releasing an Italian taco and it was just somebody
holding a hold it over slice of pizza. Um. But
(56:24):
then the Internet took it seriously. They're like, oh, they're
at war, and it's like, no, they're the same company
are the same person, right, it's the same You're watching
someone argue with themselves. Yeah, did you guys see that
hot dog popsicle? Did you talk about that on this show?
I don't know if we ever got do we get
to it? I don't think we did ever because it
(56:46):
was just it was always looking at it or like,
do we talk about the hot dog the glizzie glizz
sickle today? Yeah? Oh, but when I was talking about
it was Oscar Meyer and it was called a cool
dog and it was like a hot They said it
had sorry Alison, new slang term glizzi is yeah. Oh yeah, God,
I feel so lame. Now this is what we're here for,
(57:10):
you know. Yeah, so Oscar myer hot dog with notes
of oo mommy and smoke smokiness and it had like
a drizzle of mustra. Yeah. Yeah. The reason I think
we never quite got to it was because I felt
like a coward talking about it without having tried it. Yeah,
because yeah, you feel like you're like, you know what,
(57:33):
this is really something else. I've liked worst ideas before
in execution. I think water World pretty good. Anyways, Allison
as always such a pleasure having you. Where can people
find you follow you all that. Oh, please follow me
on social media at Allison Rosen A L I so
(57:54):
just one L and I A L I s O
N Rosen r O s E N on Twitter and Instagram.
And I am on TikTok, but I don't TikTok very often.
But it's just the Allison Rosen there. And please listen
to my podcast Alison Mosen is Your Best Friend, Childish
and Upworthy Weekly. Upworthy Weekly is a lighthearted news podcast
that comes out on Saturdays. You might be familiar with Upworthy.
(58:16):
It is their podcast. It's fairly newish. Um. Yeah, that
is me amazing. And is there a tweet or some
other work of social media you've been enjoying? Yes? Uh,
my friend Andrew Hunt who comes on my third so
Alice Moses Your Best Friend comes out on Mondays and Thursdays,
and Monday is a one on one interview and Thursday
(58:37):
is a round table group show. Uh. And Andrew Hunt
is a friend of mine who used to come on
my show. My show started as a streaming internet show
that I would do for three hours from my apartment
in Brooklyn, like ten years ago. Um, and then we
sort of lost touch and then recently we reconnected and
he's been coming on my show periodically and he is
(58:58):
just I think he's so funny. Uh. And he had
this tweet that just made me laugh so much, and
let me see if I can find it. Um, let's
see it says so glad. I put this reminder in
my phone last night when I was too tired to
go looking for a grape that rolled under my couch.
Completely forgot about it until now. And then it's a
(59:19):
screen grab and it says time sensitive reminders, find the grape. Miles.
Where can people find you with the tweet you've been enjoying?
Find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles A. Gray
and listen to me on Miles and Jack got mad
boost these if you like basketball and four twenty Day
(59:40):
Fiance if you like fiance, just trash reality shows in general. Uh.
Some tweets that I like, there's a couple. First one
is from at P J Evans tweeted, Hey, man, I
noticed you scheduled a meeting with me, but I was
hoping you could maybe cancel it because I don't want
to be here. It's very honest and real. Uh. And
(01:00:04):
then another one I like is uh OR'd say, oh
at yo soy CANGI uh tweeted. The white people on
my team use quote out of pocket to mean unavailable.
Once someone said I will be out of pocket, and
I was ready for the pre planned drama, but she
was just going to the dentist. And finally this one
(01:00:25):
is bring on the dancing horses at in the fade
uh and referencing all of the people that were like
lined up in like a miles long queue to look
at Queen Elizabeth's coffin, uh tweeted, I can't imagine waiting
like five hours in a line to look at a
coffin unless there was a dracula in it. Yeah, you
(01:00:45):
can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore. O'Brien, Let's
see a couple of tweets I've been enjoying gonna be
the coolest house on the block this Halloween. And it
is a bowl and it says, please take only one
crab rangoon per kid has a bunch of crab rang
gloon in the bowl. Um And then as photo series
(01:01:08):
where it says this guy faked drowning to see his
cat's reaction and it went exactly as expected. And it's
a picture of a guy like taking drowning and the
cat just kind of laying down an ignoring the ship
out of him, which I think it's pretty funny. Also,
what did you expect was going to happen? Um? Anyways,
you can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're
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information that we talked about in today's episode, as well
as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles,
what song do we think people might enjure? Oh? You
know what? This is a obscure deep house track I
saw on TikTok, but it took me away because there's
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this video of this guy like at a like a
like a house to show and he's just getting melted
by this track, like he's just feeling it and not
like the most energetic track, but it's got it just
develops really dope. So just look some deep house for
you on this Friday, you know, let's just take it
back to the old warehouse parties. It's called Truth the
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Nostalgic Mix, and it's from the godfathers of Deep House
and I think you can only get the down SoundCloud,
but it look if you want to, you know, vibe
out to that like a like an old millennial would
put this one on. Alright, well, go check that out.
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Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to fifty four,
episode five of production of I Heart Radio. This is
a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's
share consciousness. And it is Friday, September two, which of
course means it is the Prince Harry's Birthday day after
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Yuh Harry's b Day plus one. As they say, It's
also National Cinnamon Raising Bread Day, National Guacamole Day, National
Step Family Day, National Playdad Day, Working Parents Day, Trades
mid Day, and po w m I a recognition day
shout out to and Mayflower Day. I guess we're just
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talking about how shitty rocks. The big rock. It could
be any in jail, could be any fucking rock. Yeah,
you know, like you could. I feel like you could
show ninety nine out of a hundred people, just some
random rock roughly the same size, and like oh wow that.
Oh think Mayflower might might be in may But maybe
(01:03):
maybe it doesn't do with when they landed or when
Plymouth rock Land actually when they set sail time on
that day. Well, speaking of England, my name is Jack O'Brien,
a k Mr sausage hands was afraid of non white
when his son married one told his grandkids goodbye. He
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waited his whole damn life for his mom to die,
and as the crown touched down, he thought, well, isn't
this rubbish? And isn't it a monarch? Don't you think
it's like raining? And the rain is about ari I
g And that is courtesy Liam Howard, little old the man,
(01:51):
the King, long lived, the King Charles, and I'm thrilled
to be joined as always by my co host, Mr
Miles Grass. Miles Grand. Yes, I am feeling a bit
monarchical today, if that's a word, and I will just
go by my formal name, the Lord of lancershim Boulevard.
Thank you so much for having me. I am here
(02:13):
great to be here. I am really wonderful to have
you here. Thank you, thank you. Congratulations on your are
we acknowledging? Yeah? Congratulations a year older man, Jack you better.
The show almost ended when you didn't acknowledge it on
a fucking oh boy, not today. I didn't know if
(02:34):
we were saying the year, but you are twenty seven today,
and congratulations sir um yeah wait what is that? How old?
I am? Yeah? Thank you? Wow. That was such a
that caught me so off guard for that joke. In spirit, yes, oh,
in spirit. Honestly, I think I'm like fourteen. Have you
(02:57):
ever done the thing where you're like, how and how
old are you? Someone did that to me, by the way,
on my birthday when we went out to eat. They
were like, and this guy must be what thirty two?
I was like, that's not low enough for it to
be funny. Okay, yeah, but have you ever done that?
And they like go with it and you just have
(03:17):
to keep going and be like, yeah, I truly thought
you were one years old my service service industry days
and I was like, how old do you think I'm
turning today? I was like twenty one and they were like,
I can't believe you think I'm twenty one. Amazing sea. Anyways,
(03:38):
I was seen too much. I was a disaster as
a pool boy, end waiter, just the worst. You think.
I'm like, I don't know, yes, I am, Okay, that's right.
Do you want another beer? Amazing Well, Miles. We were
thrown to be joining our third seat by very funny
(04:00):
and talent and podcast or author TV personality. She's the
author of the book Tropical Attire, Encouraged and other phrases
that scare Me hosts the podcasts Alison Rosen as your
new best friend Childish and Upworthy Weekly. Please welcome, be hilarious,
be brilliant Allison Roses Hello, it's so nice to be here.
I consider myself the duchess of Zeitguys, happy births before you. Yeah,
(04:25):
I'm speaking to my more duchess voice now, um, more
proper and princess Lee. Wait, I have got to know
what kind of like terrible pool boy were you, because
to me, the only things that you could do wrong
as a pool boy would be like sleep with the
lady of the house and then also not skim ship
out of the pool correctly. I was at a hotel, um,
(04:48):
but I slept with all the ladies of the house.
I was bad at small talk, and I guess, like
sometimes people, that's good for a lot of people to
just have somebody who's like quiet and there with a
dry towel. Um, But there there are also people who
want to like chat it up. And then I don't
think I paid much attention to the pH balance of
(05:08):
the pool and people's One time the power went down,
there was a blackout in New York City the year
the summer that I was a pool boy and everybody
came to the pool and within like forty five minutes
it was like the color of milk. And I think
that was on my ass for I was like, oh
damn that that looks weird, right, guys, They're like, yeah,
(05:30):
aren't you don't you work here? What did they put
in the pool? Was it their sunscreen or their skin
or something? I think it must have been sunscreen. I'm
hoping at sunscreen. That was my That was my hope.
What else could it be? Ejaculant? Yeah, yeah, yeah, more rope?
Oh god, look I was a pool boy too. You know,
(05:52):
what are you gonna do? You're like, oh, no, it
ain't it ain't that. Don't worry folks. Just yeah, somebody
spilled like oil. And there's always like when people go
like canning oil though too. Yeah, like a nice slick
oil slick on top. And you're like, wow, we've been
on this waiting list for uh since before no, since
the pandemic to get my kids swim lessons from this
(06:14):
like very coveted swim teacher in the valley. Uh. And
he has this rule that he's like, I can't have
sunscreen in my pool and everyone just goes along with it,
like we all will risk melanoma to have our kids
to swim from this guy because apparently it does just
create a slick in the pool. Yeah, I don't know.
Maybe that is what happened. Yeah, it's it's who knows.
(06:36):
I mean. Also, why is this person so coveted? Like
what what kind of techniques are we talking here? Yeah?
I I don't He's like the swim whisper. There are
thousands of those in l A and they are all
equally like highly rated. I feel like, yeah, a great
racket to have, but they also all have crazy wait
list right now. Yeah. Yeah, I remember when I met
(06:59):
the guy who taught your kids how to swim Jack
and I was like, I want him to teach me
how to fucking live. He had like such a good vibe.
I was like, damn, I thought of the time I
went to like swim class once they just threw me
fucking in and I was traumatized for the rest of
my life, like that is the way they used to
do it. Yeah, And I fucking hated getting in pools
(07:19):
and ship because I always associated with like struggling underneath
the water. Uh. And then like a celebratory can of
r C cola, which was not enough. Giving you something better, yeah,
like valium. Yeah. We we had a swim teacher who,
like I was like, this is my new guru, just
(07:41):
because they were like soothing, Yeah, so soothing and the
way he interacted with the kids was great. Anyways, swim teach,
what kind of money is that? What kind of money
you like? Can you grind it out doing those swim lessons?
I'm sure? Yeah. So the dude who I'm talking about,
who was my guru, Bill, I'm gonna go put put
his name out there, all right, Uh swim to Bill? Yeah,
(08:03):
I think that's the guy. Yeah, okay, now you're doing
a free played this episode for him, played this episode,
but he would he would pull up in his tesla,
get out of his car, still wet from the last lesson,
get right into the pool that we were at, and
(08:23):
just teach a lesson. Pop out. You have to have
it a warm temperature, so it's not like I'm sure
that's both for him and for you know kids. Uh
don't don't like it the cold. I like else. The
idea that when he also gets out, he makes his
hand into a pistol and blows the barrel like yeah,
like just because he's on fire and he's he's great though,
(08:46):
You're gonna love it anyway. I mean we we we
were all set and then our lessons got canceled right
when the pandemic happened. And then we've been trying to
get back into his womb like degree pool every since
and it hasn't happened. And if you do end up
working with him, could you tell him I said, Hi, Okay,
(09:08):
thank you. That would mean a lot and be like
who Anyways, Uh, we're gonna get to know you a
little bit better in a moment. First, we're gonna tell
our listeners a couple of things we're talking about. Uh,
there is good news on the rails in terms of
the rail strike being averted by concessions to the workers
that it appears to be um, some progress was made,
(09:31):
So we're gonna talk about that. In America's rising approval
of unions, maybe that being part of the story there. Uh,
we're gonna talk about some bad news from the world.
A chess is a little cheating scandal that involves buttholes somehow. Um,
we're going to talk about King Charles. The third being
(09:53):
bad for the monarchy, good for comedy. Um, so, well,
we'll talk about that me up to. Yeah, he's a
huge there the whole family there. He's a big believer
in vibes, vibes in his ability. He thinks of himself
as a healer. That is something that he's Oh, so
(10:15):
you're a literal savior Pratt Daddy crystals sold by Spencer Pratt. Oh,
that would be. I feel like they're in the same
family of humans. Yeah. I do have the same birthday
as Heidi Prat. Wow, you have a name on We
talked about that on yesterday's Trending. But you have one
of the ten most popular birthdays in America. Also, uh,
(10:39):
what's what's her face? Uh? Dina Lohan? Damn, you got
all the all the queens. But before we get to
any of that, ship Allison, we like to ask our
guest what is something from your search history. It was
very hard for me to choose because my search history
has been a real cornucopia. I have been, I guess,
(10:59):
very inquisitive lately and lacking info. But I chose God,
It's very hard for me. There's so many things which
I feel reveal so much, but I googled bitch and
also beniche because I recently have come across both these words. Uh,
they're both fun Internet spellings of bitch, and they both
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go back to like one of them goes back to
twenty nineteen, one of them goes back to and I
feel I am just look, I'm not young, I'm not
twenty seven like Miles at the oldest. Thank you and
now you have to go along with it service days.
(11:43):
But yeah, I feel like like I have looked up
based and I don't mean the you know Oxford English
Dictionary definition, like it's a book is based on or
you know the movie is based on, because I keep
seeing like when I see based, I'm like, is that
a misspelling of biased? And I still don't know what
based means this internet lingo like look awesome sauce, I
(12:07):
can't stand it, awesome balls, I can't stand it, but
I know what it means based. I cannot keep it
in my head what that means. And so there's plenty
of internet usage that I don't know what it means,
and I'm late to it. So bench and bitch if
bench might have just been a misspelling, yes, and it's
(12:30):
just a way a cute way of saying bitch. And
I don't know if it is to avoid some kind
of like uh yeah, but I guess it's been going
on for a while, but it was that kind of
thing where all of a sudden I started seeing it
a lot, and I'm like, is this the new thing?
But no, it's the old thing. But somehow I only
(12:52):
just started seeing it, right, I take it you have
you guys have not seen it and your hip I
feel like, maybe, like in a YouTube comment, I mean
based Obviously that's very shorthand, especially when people are getting
off their political takes or whatever. You say that to say,
like you agree with somebody you know, uh and you know,
(13:13):
well you know, I don't know if you remember a
little bit the base God. Remember base God a little
bit bad um, But that was just kind of a
classic bench more than based God. Really, this is how
we how we honor little be But yeah, I mean
like you just say, like, you know, if you agree
with some ship, you're like, oh, that's based, or like
if somebody said how to take you agree with, you
be like, okay, based Biden, mm hmm. I I appreciate
(13:38):
the courage of of coming in revealing this, this is
and this is big for me too, because I I
can admit that I've looked up CAPD like overdrive like extreme.
I was like, uh huh, I think Miles used. I
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was like, yeah, I know, I got that. I got that.
How does base mean that? Though? I don't get it honestly,
I'm I feel like the first time, honestly I heard
it was because of litl be the base gud. And
more times you say it, the more times it doesn't.
It still does still not make that, says the old
white lady. Yeah, I mean, it's just saying that like that,
(14:21):
but that's how words come Look, somebody I'm sure has
the real Internet etymology of where it came up. But
I mean that was always just about being like just
doing you you know, so it just means you strongly
agree with it. Yeah, but if yeah, exactly. Yeah. If
someone put like, you know, like fucking Maga is a
cult like and you know, let's say like Nancy Pelosi
(14:42):
was so brave to tweet that people like based my
based queen, because for some reason it always sounds to
me like I think because my brain wants it to
mean biased. That's how I read it. I always think
it's someone disagreeing. Look, you know that's why at a
certain point, like you can just you can just know
that they're there and just leave them. You know, No,
(15:04):
I gotta use them. Get I gotta get in the
mixed based in the building. Okay, yeah, I gotta say
your true age. You know how the NBA has true
shooting percentage. Your true Internet podcast age just ticked up
to twenty four from me from I just gotta keep
(15:24):
you abreast of Yeah, um, what is What's something you
think is underrated? Underrated? Were overrated? Overrated? Fong underwear? Okay, yeah,
I feel strongly that it is so so uncomfortable, and
(15:49):
I want my life's work. If I die and one
woman pulled her thong underwear out of her butt and
recognized that it was uncomfort r bole, and she instead
chose a full seat pair of underwear, my life will
have meant something. Because I frequently hear women go like,
(16:10):
either I find it comfortable or like it's just gonna
end up in my butt anyway. No, underwe doesn't have
to be like this lady's. If my underwear is in
my butt, it is a problem that I am seeking. Yeah,
it's kind of it's it's a prank, it's hazing, Like
(16:33):
we flip flops are fine, but imagine if there was
an orifice between your toes. It would be uncomfortable if
there was that flip flop in there, just running against that.
It's what I remember like in high school, always seeing
them like damn, like doesn't that suck to wear like
(16:54):
a thong? And then like my classmates are like, I
don't know, you get used to it? And I was like,
I don't know how the funk I would I used to? What?
We don't have to live like this late who's like
a famous consciousness raiser. I want to raise conscious I
want to be like the Betty for Dan of Underwear lady.
Because I sat there, no cap. I sat there yesterday
(17:15):
with my underwear and I was just trying to figure out, like,
is there anyway I could get used to a thong?
And I tried to and I sat there and I
just like put it in my butt, pulled it out,
and I tried to figure out, like where is the
discomfort coming from? And it's really this is too much information,
but it's really down near the the anus, like up high, yeah,
(17:37):
up high. If that's creeping into the crack. That's not
really a problem, but it's just like down below that
we it really needs to not be near the action.
So anyway, I just feel, you know what, let's just
accept pantylines not a problem. We deserve comfort. Life's too short.
Pull that underwear out of your crap. I rest my case.
(18:01):
There it is. I'm gonna extend that to also, I
think thong sandals are pretty uncomfortable. I like them. I
like them. I don't like that. I don't like having
that ship in between my toes, right, you know what's
and it's funny that you say that, my fuddo that
you would be you get used to it, Yeah, exactly.
That's the thing. Is like the only time I've ever
liked it was like a year when I wore out
(18:24):
of a lot of those, And but when I first
put that in, I'm just like, I don't like it.
Oh yeah, you always like where that where? Stuff like that.
The shoes have you heard shoes? Like there's nothing in
between those. I don't like that. I mean, I feel
like the weird end around product is like you create
like weird patches for your thong to make it like less,
(18:46):
you know, impactful on your ainus, you know, like a
sticker or something like some kind of attachment, like someone
put a band aid between their toes to deal with
the thong. You put a band aid over your ass cracks.
So you go in there there it is. You go
for something by pass. So it's coming out somewhere else,
(19:07):
right right right, I like a nice big baggy thong.
That's what I'm looking for, you know. Yes, So it's
just daying. So it's just what's the point at that point?
It's just like a jewelry at that pointe. Yeah, it
looks like the cables behind the stage with the curtains
on a theater. Yeah, don't trip coiled on the ground.
(19:29):
Who are who are walking by me? Yeah? And you're
not using the slang. It's not like no cap and
you're saying don't trip and yeah, well don't bug right,
they literally don't trip on your thongstrap. That's as long
as the kitchen corded phone cable that armand exactly what
is something you think is underrated? Diet soda? Uh? Consistent?
(19:54):
Very popular? ID you're consistent? Yeah, listen is the deal?
Have you tried it? It's so good. It's so much.
It is so much better than water. It's not even close.
Oh my god, this I feel about it. No, I
(20:16):
mean in some not that it's exact same thing, but
I feel like this has been something I'm You're like, yeah,
I think waters all right, but you're like the fucking
diet though I don't know. Did I say water was overrated?
I do feel water is overrated. Um, here's the thing.
I was off of diet soda and I'm not even
(20:37):
talking about diet coke or coke zero ever since I
had clear braces as a teenager. The braces themselves didn't stain,
but the rubber bands did. I'm a fan of the
clear diet option, and I got off of them for
a long time, and I was drinking water like all
(20:58):
the other human being and now I don't like it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Just I'm an automaton. I drink water good, I get up,
I go through my dit, you know, like a ROBOTSI
of no, do you enjoy if you enjoy water? That
was an impression of you. But anyway, I recently backslid.
(21:20):
Now I'm drinking died seven up again, and oh my god,
if you guys tried this stuff. Seriously, I had forgotten
how good it was. Like I realized I sound like
someone who is like doing Heroin again, and I'm like,
oh my god, have you tried it? It really takes
all your pain away. It's so good. But like, oh
(21:41):
my god, I it's so much better than water. Everyone triet.
It is really so good refreshing. It's Chris, it's first quenching.
Now when I go to bed, I put a can
of it next to my bed along with my both
the middle and it's so bad this So you don't
(22:05):
mind it being a little warm. You you'll take a
warm bad you guys. And I'm now I'm embarrassing. You
got kids, Allison, You got kids, and you're living like that.
You prefer the bed like that? How does that work?
So you don't wake You're like fuctually actually because I
(22:28):
don't want to wake up my husband and I don't
want him to know. Um, I have it in a
camel pack under my pillow. I slept through the night
and I didn't crack the can and I woke up
and I was like, good for me, that warm. I
feel like warm beverages like really forces you to take
in the full flavor profile of a thing worth and all. So,
(22:53):
I mean it's a true devotee. Too warm a drink
needs to be down to drink it, like room tent
room tip. I don't yeah, I don't want it hot. Sure, Okay,
well we're making progress. I don't want to like swim
to Bill's pool right right right, you know room temper below. Yeah, okay,
(23:16):
this is a cry for help. You should when I
think it's going to get up to like the nineties
and like a week, leave a can out for a
few hours in the sun and drink it and see
if you get superpowers. I feel like you might based
on what just like how you're how energized you are
talking about. I feel like something with the sun's energy
(23:37):
just beamed into it might take it up a notch.
Just try just there. Like a theory you had about
one flavor of Lacroix that was really good warmed up.
Oh yeah, passion fruit. It's an air freshener. Yeah. If
you leave a passion fruit Lacroix opening at fantastic, it's easy.
(23:58):
These are life packs of the our world crumbling into
climate change. Yeah, exactly, see passion fruit Lacroix. I don't
and I don't really like Lacroix, but the Passion Fruit
especially has like almost a a musky funk to it. Sorry,
say more, we're a musky funky show. But you guys
like that flavor, I take it. Yeah, And also shout
(24:21):
out to our band, Musky funk uh elon musk fronted
funk band. We're really great. Check up. All right, let's
take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk about
less important things. We'll be right back to play that
funky music mind boy, And we're back, and we have
(24:50):
an update on the rail strike story that we were
talking about on yesterday's episode, because you know, we're talking
about the fact that a lot of the corporate media
and the business media You're Bloomsburg and other, you know,
outlets like that, pushed the panic. And now the latest
(25:11):
story coming out of mainstream media, like the AP, for instance,
is like we found a deal. We we got a deal.
People are hearing from union members. It's not so clean
cut and they seem still like kind of unhappy. So
the deal hasn't been ratified, but the way the AP
is reporting is like the rail strike has been averted,
(25:33):
And I don't know, it at least seems positive that
it's going in that direction and not like bring Congress
in and your medical procedures, you must work now. And
I don't know, Like when you look at the deal terms,
the thing that's being front loaded in the news stories
is raises and you know, them making decent money because
(25:57):
of this deal that they're offering the unions. But the
you get a few paragraphs down and the details of
like how bleak the situation is that they're trying to
work their way out of is somewhat crazy. I'll just
read directly from this AP story. The deal includes one
additional paid leave day a year, but railroads also agreed
(26:19):
to let workers take unpaid time off for doctor's appointments
and medical procedures without being penalized under their attendance rules. Yeah,
so like you you're allowed to see the doctor, you
better not see the doctor, right, Like that's sort of
the tone of like, okay, well, if you have a
human body that degrades, that's not your Yeah. And a
(26:43):
lot of people have talked about the fallout, like the
personal fallout, like how many marriages have even like crumbled
because of this ship like and how like it's just
created like a mental health crisis with people too, because
they're truly in this place like I don't know if
I can of my life tomorrow. And yeah, it's a small,
small victory, but I think I also would hope that
(27:06):
rather than because right now everyone's like, yeah, all right,
they fucking figured something out, it should be yo, shame
on these fucking railroad companies for holding the economy hostage
and like trying to get it to this point with
their brinksmanship over profits. Like that's really disgusting and like
you're saying, just like when you look at what the
minimum that they're getting now, it's like that's a fucking
(27:27):
bleak life and there should be more, like, you know,
shame on you shit, you know, being that kind of
energy being pointed at the railroad should shame them, Yeah,
for shame for shame A hearty tisk tiscum, do you
think you're so cool? You're not there? It is, But
I just feel like this is very important information for
(27:50):
everyone to know as we head into you know, a
rolling news story that's going to be with us for
years and years of like you are our bucks and
Amazon's you know, ramping up the we're a family, you
don't need unions, like unions are bad rhetoric that like,
when it comes down to it, the thing unions are
fighting for are letting people go to doctors appointments without
(28:14):
getting fired. Like that's that is truly wild inhumane ship
that corporations are like going to the mat over, you know,
left to their own devices, they'll force people to work
sick and not allow them to get medical procedures. Yeah. Hey,
you know, also just looking like you're saying like good
time for you know, pro union sentiment, you know. But again,
(28:37):
just to reiterate, this is the thing that the you know,
employer classes the fucking is so frightened by. There's people
that work for them just being like, hey man, what
if we organized our ship and flexed our power because
actually the whole equation is without us, they don't make ship. Yeah.
One thing I do want to just touch on with
the with the rail thing is that it hasn't been
(28:59):
ratified idea, so it is a tentative agreement. It very
well could go in front of the union members and
they're like this still is not enough. So it's it's
important to know, like where although there's there is a
tentative agreement, they could be right back at having to
advocate for themselves again, in which case we should be
prepared to not be like I thought it was over right.
But just generally, America's approval of labor unions is at
(29:21):
sixty percent after being at forty eight percent in two
thousand nine, which was an all time low. Um. And
I do think that is significance like when Reagan significant
like when Reagan fired all the air traffic controllers and
professionals in the early eighties, general sentiment about unions was
that a decades low, like the lowest it have been
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for forty years. So I I do think that that
informs how politicians behave and how you know, how things
like this go, and also how the companies behave, right
like just recognizing that they can't do what John Dear
did last year were they tried to fire all their
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employees they were striking, and brought in themselves the executives
to try and do the work in factories. Again, just
like very I think the sorts of stories that are
probably driving the rise and popularity of of unions that
and like what like from that story yesterday where you know,
(30:24):
we hear it constantly, the pandemic really fucking like that
that momentary pause where people were like, wait, what, oh,
I I can't toil, Like we're not able to toil
because of quarantine. That suddenly a lot of values shifted
and a lot of people began to really like have
a reckoning with this idea of like you just fucking
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work to live and that's it, Like that's all it
can be. And I think it's great that. I think
the byproduct of that are more and more people realizing, well,
if I don't want to do this, what's the path
to do that? And if that's through collective organizing, and
then so be it. That's why I'm back on diet
seven up. I'm like, really, my life is short, that's right.
I want to I don't want to just drink water.
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Man um. What do you think accounted for such a
low opinion of unions. I think we had a long
run of just monolithic messaging from the media, like from
the Clinton you know, Reagan Clinton, like up through Bush
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like that everything was just this pro corporate like corporations
are going to take care of everything as long as
like America's economy is up in like Wall Street is humming,
Like that is the marker of like how healthy the
society is. And you know, two thousand nine was the
year after everyone was like wait, what the what the
(31:48):
fun like like you were saying with the pandemic. I
think the financial crash in two thousand and eight was
like America coming to in the middle of a blackout,
being like whoa, where where am I? What? What was
happening here? Who are all these creepy people in masks
around me? In a circle of candles? So is it
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like the the anti union sentiment? Perhaps this is probably
over supplication, but like stems from this like I'm going
to go out and be an individual billionaire. I'm not
gonna be a socialist. I mean there's also two like
in two thousand nine. I think it's interesting because I
think there's the bailout for the auto industry and that
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like the sentiment was sort of like I think the
biggest thing was that unions only benefit those people, So
I don't fucking need them and they're not important and
I'm not packed into the idea that people deserve better
because right now everybody got fucked in two thousand and eight,
so coming off the heels that like why did that
whole industry get bailed out? And then I think from
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there you're able to even massage the narrative even further
and have pundits on TV being like, well, this is
the problem with unions and like reinforce this message. And
I think like the biggest benefit now is even if
you're not in a fucking union, you can empathize. You'll
look at your own working situation and be like, damn,
I wish we had it better. Yeah, fuck yeah, I like,
what the fuck? Yeah, these people fighting for themselves. I
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funk with that because I'm I'm tapped into my own
fight as well. And I think that's I think that's
probably one of the biggest changes too, for sure. Yeah,
And the people who unions are most popular with people
who are in unions and right, and like, you know,
all all the talking about once you're in the union,
like they're going to charge you all these fees and
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you're gonna the people. You know. It's currently eighty six
percent of union members approved unions. It was ninety three
very recently. Like it's just incredibly high. Uh, And it's
unpopular with Republicans they're the only people who fall below
fift in terms of union approval. So it also feels
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like this is an area where like big D demo
crats are maybe getting the message that they have a
winner here. You know, it's like a political winner tied
in with being the right thing and a thing that
works for you know, us workers and like just American
in general. Is like taking care of people because they
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don't milk that though, you know that, like just give
them a little bit, don't go all the way They're right,
don't go all the way there, because if we know
how to properly squeeze the berry, then you don't you know. Yeah,
and again you know, this is not an end zone
dance because we don't know what what is going to
ultimately happen here. But it does seem promising at least
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that you know, the ap like a very mainstream news
source has this article up that is just you know,
nakedly showing what looks like a win for union membership
at a time when the corporate media what wants us
to believe that Starbucks and Amazon workers like that that
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to both sides the thing, so well, it doesn't seem
to be both sides. The once people are in a union,
they seem to be pretty happy that, uh, they are
treated like human beings. So, Miles, you said, properly squeeze
the berry. Is that some hipne slam? That's just me
being a berry juice fanatic, you know, just don't don't.
(35:20):
There's still good juice in there, you know. Yeah, which
berrier are we talking about? Uh? In my mind, it's
actually it's like it's like a cartoon one. It's like
very non specific, but it's like bluish purple, and you're like,
it's like a little juice drop coming out the bottom
when you squeeze it, but not too much because it's
like a couple of drips in that thing. Was sort
of what I was evoking. Yeah, yeah, I'm picturing like
(35:41):
a big cartoon like blueberry plum situation. Yeah, yeah, for sure,
I'm not. I don't know enough about berries to think
of what you could actually juice like that, So it's
all I revert to Hannah Barbera or Warner Brothers cartoons.
All right, let's take a quick break. We'll come back.
We'll talk chess, maybe even get to Prince Slash Kings,
(36:04):
King Chucky and we're back and Magnus Carlson is chess grandmaster.
Magnus Massive had a fifty three game unbeaten streak going
(36:28):
fairly recently. I don't know, did you. Did you guys
watch that documentary about him back when Netflix only had
like a good documentary every month. I saw part of
it and I was just kind of like, alright, I
like searching for Bobby Fisher and fresh my chess movie.
That's my chest content. Um. But anyways, he's a prodigy
(36:51):
and he has cool hair, and those things came together
to make him sort of a national celebrity. Um, and
he's continued to be. But he just got beat by
a random nineteen year old American Hans and Nemon. It's
really interesting. So this apparently fucking set the whole chess
world on fire when he lost, because it's a huge
(37:14):
upset and pretty much like on paper, the biggest because
going into this tournament, Neiman was I think the lowest
ranked player there. So it's like literally top top, like
bottom beating top on the fucking ranking chart. And after
the laws Carlson like withdrew from the tournament in dramatic fashion,
and he tweeted this like video clip of the football
(37:34):
manager Jose Marino, who he would like he's like a
salty coach who like when he loses, would always say
ship to get him in trouble. So there's this clip
of Jose Marino being asked about like the officiating in
the match that he felt like his team got robbed,
and he's like, if I say anything more, I'll get
in big, big trouble, So I prefer to say nothing.
And he tweets that and everyone's like, Yo, what's he
trying to say? Like what could he say? What's he
(37:56):
trying to imply here? And that just set off like
a way of conspiracy theories, and they were all kinds
of accusations against him, Like for example, they say, oh,
he might have had a shoe computer, and you're like
that like something that was clearly uh messaging him or
(38:18):
giving him like some kind of signal on how to
move the chess pieces. The superiority of shoes over flip flaps,
by the way, But that's true, that's true, okay, okay.
I mean the technology could get advanced though, and that
little bit that rests between your toes, that's where the
stimulation comes from. I don't know think about it cheaters.
(38:39):
Another one was that Carlson's like someone in Carlson's like
circle had like leaked his preparations, and so, uh, this
guy was able to like prepare like to the like
no exactly what the funk he was going to do,
and that's how he was able to defeat him. Is
that how chess works? Like if somebody I guess, I
guess it's I think because there's certain reparation, certain ways
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of playing. People were saying, like the line that he
or whatever the strategy that Neiman took was like one
that maybe Carlson wasn't like absolutely not preparing for at all,
and that's why he was caught off guard. I have
no I saw the Queen's gamb but and my understanding
is you take drugs and then stare at the ceiling. Yeah,
have you guys seen that? That's how you prepare. I
mean I've been doing that even without a chessboard in
(39:22):
front um and it and it works. Folks. I'm one
of the best players out there. But then after the
plans were leaked or the shoe computer, people were just
like yeah, maybe maybe, and then like this this other
fucking theory came up that perhaps the guy was using
vibrating anal beads uh to actually signal what move to make.
(39:47):
I'm just you know, thought right, right right, and let
me just play this. He can hear like this guy
is clear on a chess live stream, and I think
he's like fielding, like he's like, yeah, I could see
this or this that, and someone is you know, suggesting
this and he's like mmmmmmmmmmmm, that's probably a good one, right,
and anal bead probably would beat the thing. I'm serious
if the engine I but probably I don't know. I
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really don't know, like think about it. I I don't know.
I think I told you was a prostmus but I'm
not an expert that stuff. I don't know what's going
on in his chat. An'll beat, Yeah, he's getting his
mind around it. Just a remote anal ben. He was
saying that that would be connected to like a fucking
(40:34):
chess playing AI. So they like someone somehow could be
feeding like the real time analysis to his vibrating anal bead,
which would then tell him where to move the chess piece.
So everyone is really stretching to try and explain like
how this kid went from zero to hero overnight, and
a lot of people point that, like it's possible because
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he admitted when he was like a lot younger, when
he was a kid, that he admitted to using like
a chess program that his friend was running during an
online tournament, which is like really frowned upon because it's
all supposed to be like a fucking brain measuring contest.
But there's also plenty to suggest that he's also like
a talented player that has been consistently outperforming his like
official player rating. So I don't know. Now there's people
(41:18):
calling for him to prove he wasn't cheating, even though
like like he says, it's like the proof is in
the game. Well, he said, look, what do you want
to do? Play button naked? I will but naked, but
we are going to need to have somebody with a
you know, somebody who's willing to do a press state
massage during the course of the thing, right, or or
a see through chair at the very least, Yeah, you
(41:42):
know you can see his butth hole. I don't know,
I don't know. For it to work, you have to
do like an actual like like jail intake fucking procedure
to be like all right, now, spreadet cheeks, squad, cough,
open your mouth, stick your tongue out, Like that's I mean,
if that is that where we're added, I don't think so,
(42:03):
but it's it's possible. Um there is a naturally one
of the biggest porn camp sites is offering him quote
up to one million dollars. I'm not sure how that
offer works to play naked on their site, so um there.
I mean, there's a bunch of interesting stuff here, Like
Chess is becoming very popular. I've heard it attributed to
(42:24):
the Queen's Gambit and uh, you know, a bunch of things.
But it feels like it's like, have you guys heard
of this new online game everyone's playing chess dot com.
Like my six year olds obsessed with chess, like all
a bunch of his friends are. There's a booming Yeah, yeah,
there's like his friend is like obsessed with Chess and
(42:47):
Minecraft like entreats them interchangeably. Um. So it's it definitely
seems like a thing that is becoming more popular and
is also becoming more online. And becoming more online, We're
going to see more stuff like uh, conspiracy theories and
involving vibrating anal beads popping up. Because go back to
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the vibrating anial beads. The second the remote. First of all,
the remote, that's how this they're able to signal the
a I just you know, regular plug in anal beads
that vibrate the remote remote. You know what does that mean?
They're like an antenna, like you could signal it like
like someone else can control when vibrate somehow, someone's on
a like feeding the moves into a board that like
(43:35):
then you know, computers are still i think, the best
at chess, so you can get the best possible move
and then communicate that back to his anus. And it's
a computer doing that, or there's uh, there's someone who's
I'm assuming he would have somebody someone who's watching the
board feeding it. Yeah, so this is all happening so fast.
(43:57):
But like that means he would have had to pray
this with the bead to know whatever the like like
Morse code or the length of the vibration. You would
think that watching the film film the film I did
it on film. Watching the match, you would see him
like you know, like pivot or move or do some
(44:19):
thinking or gesture or grimace or something because he's getting
you know, and that is what's interesting is he does
go before everyone of those moves, so like he's verbalizing
the vibration is suspicious. Then that does make me think,
(44:40):
I mean, yeah, I don't I mean, because you just
have like okay, isn't it like E C two to
C four type of how could how could a bead
communicate all of that E two to E four? Like
what I mean, that's a lot of a lot of
buzzing that That's the thing that's scientists. So that's another
interesting angle, is that ensory inputs and like basically giving
(45:03):
humans new senses is something that like kind of cutting
edge neurologists are experimenting with. Like they've done experiments where
people have a belt that lightly vibrates to the north,
what like at all times, and you just developed this
amazing innate sense of like true north essentially. And there's
(45:25):
they've also done experiments with um people who are hearing
impaired and like a vibrating like two dimensional thing on
the tongue that like vibrates with regards to different sounds
in it. Basically like once you have spent a lot
of time, it becomes a new sensory input that you
(45:47):
can kind of it just like plugs into your brain
like that. So that's the thing that I think we're
going to be seeing more and more of. And this
might just be the strange, uh, you know, very very
public first instance of it being used in a in
a very but you think there's so many like technologically
(46:09):
refined ways to do that, and they're like, yeah, man,
he's got a buzzing ball up his ass, like it
would be the best place to hide it. Though the
shoe computer is much more elegant. Really, shoe computer also
kind of a bummer though, you know, like it feels
a little bit like a shoot computer, Like what's it?
It doesn't sound, it's not Unfortunately it's not as exciting
(46:31):
to hear as remote anal beads true vibrating remote controlled
animal be using AI. Then computer really does excite the senses. Yeah,
shoe computer, I'm like, all right, Like I remember l
A gyears with that that the light up sucking souls
in the nineties and beyond. But it feel yeah, thank you. Also,
(46:55):
why do all chess guys look like crisis? Harry Styles?
Harry Styles has is at the end of his rope
after a very long like personal crisis of some sort.
The photo from the match, I'm like, none of these
guys have ever even touched their heads with their hands.
Like it's just like so feral, like, like Magnus has
(47:19):
always had like a big mop of hair that's like
very unruly, like sort of young Einstein esque. And my
my assumption is that because he had that hair and
became this iconoclastic like best in the world at chess,
that everybody else is probably trying to pull it off.
(47:40):
You'll notice that the person he's playing against who who
beat him, does not have the hair for it. Like
he's not he's not pulling it off as much as Magnus. Uh. Yeah,
it's like he's got like thinning hair and it's kind
of all it's not a great look for him, but
he's doing it. In my mind, Nieman's hair looks better
(48:02):
than Carlson's because Nieman looks disheveled, like he looks like
he's living that life. Okay, looks like he's like this
is my swag. Nieman looks like, yo, bro, I don't
have ship to do. Yeah, no, he is pulling it out.
I was probably a little bit. No, it's fine. It's
in the eye of the beholder, you know what I mean.
I mean, Neiman looks like there's something in his butt
(48:23):
that's vibrating. He's got a wild luck. He has covered
him as hard as he can. Okay, did I But yeah,
I don't know. We'll see if what if he sneezes.
(48:44):
He sneezes in it like like face off when he's
if you sneeze, your voice changes back because of that
computer chip. Yeah, these are the questions, like this is
the only story we're going to be covering for the
next a couple of months. As we get to the
bottom of it, Like someone could bring in a salad
(49:05):
and they'd be like fresh ground pepper and they're like, no,
totally foil the whole thing, right one of the Yeah,
they add like now mandatory moment in every chest match
someone tickles your nose with a feather. Oh, and that
would be embarrassing. And then he stands up after the
matches over and he walks in like they it will
be just falls out of his like pant leg and
(49:25):
it's like got you got you busted. I hate to
see it. All right, Well, we do have to talk
about the return of talk about his Mexican pizza h
officially back return of the King. The King we don't
we don't have time to dig into King Charles unfortunately.
(49:49):
Really now in in the remaining time, we do have
time to let you know the Mexican Pizza's officially back
this week. UM. You know resurrection that will presumably be
in the new New Testament, the Fourth Meal Testament one day. Um.
It did come with the accompanying Dolly Parton musical, as
as promised. UM. I think so. I didn't watch it.
(50:16):
It's one of those stories. It's like, oh, that's amazing,
what a like fun marketing idea, but then like I
would never actually like watch and um. Yeah. So when
we last discussed this, I was like, you know, Dolly
Parton had that interview and then they reached out and
they were like, we're gonna do a Dolly part musical
(50:37):
about how the Internet lost its mind when the Mexican
Pizza was axed in. And so the evidence that we
have that the Internet was really up in arms about
this was that there was an online petition that racked
up two hundred thousand signatures. UM. Put to put that
in perspective, there were two hundred thousand signatures to save Lucifer.
That Fox TV show might be it's liked that show. Yeah,
(51:01):
oh yeah, a lot of people big Lucifer fans. Yeah,
that's the show where the l A. P. D. Solves
crimes with the help of the devil. So check it out.
But yeah, anyways, I don't know if that petition was successful,
but the Mexican pizza petition has been successful. One story
is that they've updated the box with regards to these
(51:24):
it was two cumbersome. It was tucumbersome. They said that
it was like when they canceled the pizza in the
first place. The box accounted for over seven million pounds
of paperboard material per year in the US. It's like
they come in a paper anvil full on pizza box. Yeah,
(51:45):
Like I remember back in the day, it was not
in like a pizza box. It was in a way
shittier like single, like a just threw it at you, yea,
and we eat it just like a like a big frisbee.
It's like a like a very then paper box. It
would come in yeah and so and and then they
brought it back in May and it was still in
(52:07):
that same box, but now for the big relaunch, it's
in a slightly different mini pizza box. That is I
don't know. You guys can look at it here in
the docket. It just looks like a pizza box. Yeah,
that's too much. It's it's a lot of paper. It
doesn't seem like a cut down on on the amount
of paper. That's It's funny. I love Taco Bell, but
I can't have that much like tangible evidence around that.
(52:31):
I love it, you know, like the fucking papers that
wrapped my little tacos and stuff. I can fucking crump
condense that into a fucking density no one has ever
seen and then throw that away. The Taco Show put
it in an edible box. That's a great idea, right,
this is like, this is too much like I would
(52:51):
hate to see my neighbor like I'm pulling out my
recycling can. They're like, oh, the Mexican pizzas back, huh
because the lid doesn't shut show. I do feel like
when you're walking around the streets of Los Angeles, at
least you see like a lot of empty beer cans
and like empty you know, vape cartridges and empty like
(53:11):
things that are vice, and the food version of that
that I see the most is taco bell sauce packets
and stuff like right right, I do feel like, yeah,
people treat taco bell as though it is like drinking problem. Yeah,
like you're drinking that six pack like before you go
home in the coldest sac around from your house. Just
(53:33):
getting rid of the evidence by all means. Then it's all.
Then that neighbor has come up. Why do they always
drink here? Why do they always eat their taco bell here? Yeah,
it's always a message. There was like a spot like
that in the neighborhood I grew up, which is basically
like it was near the freeway, so there weren't really
any neighbors or ship and you just you just partied
by the freeway right there and left all your taco
bell and beer bottles. Yeah, okay, I'm not a fast
(53:54):
food person. And you know, given my type is diet seven,
you're not a fast food person. That's what I was
gonna say. You know, given my beverages that I do
not treat my body as a temple or anything. However,
I'm looking at pictures of the Mexican pizza and this
actually looks quite good. Oh it is, it is. It's
so good. It's spicy, though it's not that spicy. I mean,
(54:15):
you can everything at Taco Bell. At Taco Bell, I
feel like it's around the same level of spicy and less. Otherwise,
even the spicy chicken case ida is not spicy, you
know what I mean. It's just got at what they're doing,
like a one parsec of after taste and then it
goes away. But I mean that's where the fire sauce
comes in, which is why people are having to get
(54:36):
rid of the evidence. You have a Baha Blast before.
I haven't. Wow, kiss your family goodbye. Why am I
going to marry that instead tro a diet Baha Blast?
Do they have that? They must? Yeah, yeah, they have
(54:57):
diet Baha They have Baha Blast zero. I know that
for sure because I have in my refrigerant there. It is.
Just try it, you know, if you're willing to risk
it all I am. I'm telling you, I feel like
I'm like in a I'm really ready to throw it
all away, right for a drink, but not that kind
(55:18):
of drink, soft drink, for something truly something. I mean, honestly,
I honestly think this is probably worse for your body
than right now. So yeah, I will try a Baha blast.
It'll give you something. It'll give you something to think
about for sure. At the very least, um a little
Mexican pizza. Wash it down with the Blaha blast. Um.
The packaging actually looks so much like a pizza box
(55:42):
that I'm wondering if they are aware of how people
think about their food to the degree that they're like, look,
people think you're just eating a regular pizza from like
a pizza place, and that's acceptable. That's socially acceptable, as
opposed to the Mexican pizza, which is um, which is bomb. Dude,
what you got something to say? So I tried to
(56:04):
meet Mexican pizza shame me. Oh no, no, I'd have
time for them. Pizza Hut, you know, in a in
a little bit of synergistic marketing, Pizza Hut like did
a sort of buzz marketing thing where they were like, well,
we're releasing an Italian taco and it was just somebody
holding a hold it over slice of pizza. Um. But
(56:24):
then the Internet took it seriously. They're like, oh, they're
at war, and it's like, no, they're the same company
are the same person, right, it's the same You're watching
someone argue with themselves. Yeah, did you guys see that
hot dog popsicle? Did you talk about that on this show?
I don't know if we ever got do we get
to it? I don't think we did ever because it
(56:46):
was just it was always looking at it or like,
do we talk about the hot dog the glizzie glizz
sickle today? Yeah? Oh, but when I was talking about
it was Oscar Meyer and it was called a cool
dog and it was like a hot They said it
had sorry Alison, new slang term glizzi is yeah. Oh yeah, God,
I feel so lame. Now this is what we're here for,
(57:10):
you know. Yeah, so Oscar myer hot dog with notes
of oo mommy and smoke smokiness and it had like
a drizzle of mustra. Yeah. Yeah. The reason I think
we never quite got to it was because I felt
like a coward talking about it without having tried it. Yeah,
because yeah, you feel like you're like, you know what,
(57:33):
this is really something else. I've liked worst ideas before
in execution. I think water World pretty good. Anyways, Allison
as always such a pleasure having you. Where can people
find you follow you all that. Oh, please follow me
on social media at Allison Rosen A L I so
(57:54):
just one L and I A L I s O
N Rosen r O s E N on Twitter and Instagram.
And I am on TikTok, but I don't TikTok very often.
But it's just the Allison Rosen there. And please listen
to my podcast Alison Mosen is Your Best Friend, Childish
and Upworthy Weekly. Upworthy Weekly is a lighthearted news podcast
that comes out on Saturdays. You might be familiar with Upworthy.
(58:16):
It is their podcast. It's fairly newish. Um. Yeah, that
is me amazing. And is there a tweet or some
other work of social media you've been enjoying? Yes? Uh,
my friend Andrew Hunt who comes on my third so
Alice Moses Your Best Friend comes out on Mondays and Thursdays,
and Monday is a one on one interview and Thursday
(58:37):
is a round table group show. Uh. And Andrew Hunt
is a friend of mine who used to come on
my show. My show started as a streaming internet show
that I would do for three hours from my apartment
in Brooklyn, like ten years ago. Um, and then we
sort of lost touch and then recently we reconnected and
he's been coming on my show periodically and he is
(58:58):
just I think he's so funny. Uh. And he had
this tweet that just made me laugh so much, and
let me see if I can find it. Um, let's
see it says so glad. I put this reminder in
my phone last night when I was too tired to
go looking for a grape that rolled under my couch.
Completely forgot about it until now. And then it's a
(59:19):
screen grab and it says time sensitive reminders, find the grape. Miles.
Where can people find you with the tweet you've been enjoying?
Find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles A. Gray
and listen to me on Miles and Jack got mad
boost these if you like basketball and four twenty Day
(59:40):
Fiance if you like fiance, just trash reality shows in general. Uh.
Some tweets that I like, there's a couple. First one
is from at P J Evans tweeted, Hey, man, I
noticed you scheduled a meeting with me, but I was
hoping you could maybe cancel it because I don't want
to be here. It's very honest and real. Uh. And
(01:00:04):
then another one I like is uh OR'd say, oh
at yo soy CANGI uh tweeted. The white people on
my team use quote out of pocket to mean unavailable.
Once someone said I will be out of pocket, and
I was ready for the pre planned drama, but she
was just going to the dentist. And finally this one
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is bring on the dancing horses at in the fade
uh and referencing all of the people that were like
lined up in like a miles long queue to look
at Queen Elizabeth's coffin, uh tweeted, I can't imagine waiting
like five hours in a line to look at a
coffin unless there was a dracula in it. Yeah, you
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can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore. O'Brien, Let's
see a couple of tweets I've been enjoying gonna be
the coolest house on the block this Halloween. And it
is a bowl and it says, please take only one
crab rangoon per kid has a bunch of crab rang
gloon in the bowl. Um And then as photo series
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where it says this guy faked drowning to see his
cat's reaction and it went exactly as expected. And it's
a picture of a guy like taking drowning and the
cat just kind of laying down an ignoring the ship
out of him, which I think it's pretty funny. Also,
what did you expect was going to happen? Um? Anyways,
you can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're
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information that we talked about in today's episode, as well
as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles,
what song do we think people might enjure? Oh? You
know what? This is a obscure deep house track I
saw on TikTok, but it took me away because there's
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this video of this guy like at a like a
like a house to show and he's just getting melted
by this track, like he's just feeling it and not
like the most energetic track, but it's got it just
develops really dope. So just look some deep house for
you on this Friday, you know, let's just take it
back to the old warehouse parties. It's called Truth the
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Nostalgic Mix, and it's from the godfathers of Deep House
and I think you can only get the down SoundCloud,
but it look if you want to, you know, vibe
out to that like a like an old millennial would
put this one on. Alright, well, go check that out.
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