Chillionaires, Faceb(sh)ook 10.2.19

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Hello the Internet, and welcome to season one oh two,
Episode three of Guys production of I Heart Radio. This
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Fuck Coke Industries and fuck Fox News. It's Wednesday, October two,
two thousand nine. Team. My name is Jack O'Brien a K.

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I was like, oh ship as his boat as showed
her with some knits and skin that's all pasty. Looking
for something to do with my hands. Took a few
weeds with one of my friends. I'm leaving, please believe
in trying to stand up my legs, lust all feeling.
Gotta stop taking whatever Miles has? What the hell do

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people do with their hands? That is courtesy of at
Podge Moran or Moran Moran and I'm through it to
be joined as always by my co host, Mr Miles Well.
I do is win, win, win, no matter what. But
I got e D so I can't I get it

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up in every single week day, this second rate podcast
goes up and if they there that they say yeah
and as they are topiced Taco Taco Bell because all
I do is win Yeah. Um. Jacob Blue at Jacob

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Blue for that one, because that's true. All we do
is win an no matter what. It doesn't matter exactly.
You know, we say yeah and they say there we
do also do that. Uh well, we're sort of be
joined in our third seat by the hilarious and talented
host of Behind the Bastards and the new podcast on

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this very network. Worst here ever as well as it
could happen here. Uh he is Mr Robertibody say civil war?
Ye yes, hi, lots of actually a lot of people, Yeah,
a lot of pep the sense of a war. It's
a fun meme. It's a fun meme. Yeah. The President
is talking all about civil war and then Robert's like, hey,
I'm here about it. It's like here here goes. Have

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you been pretty good preparing for the civil war? Getting
your lasic eye surgery, getting my lasic ice surgery, getting
getting just stockpiling, you know, a little bit of stockpiling here,
a little bit of stockpiling there, to bagels, a little
bit of bagamer, a little bit of like taking groups
of friends out to the gun range, like ostensibly as
just a way to hang out, but really so that

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people will have my back. Yeah, I thought you're just
you're you're actually adjudicating them whether or not they're worthy
to be in your posse. You're like, I don't know
about that grouping. I mean there's like there's like there's
like the two categories, which is like like like actual
actual team and then cannon fodders, Like you need both.
You know someone in the decoy house. Well, you saw me.
I did a dime grouping from two yards, So hopefully

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it's enough to be in the A team. I always
on j V as a kid, So wow, yeah something
basketball do do you make up your like the people
you're hanging out with based on like which group Like
you always need to have a couple of people from
Group A. Yeah, you always want a couple of Group
a's with you, a couple of group BS that again

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you can send out to the decoy house. Um decoy.
So I'm assuming that in the office currently, uh, super
producer anajsny A, Miles are uh Group A they can
kill people. Uh, and then with my farts, I I
would be probably cannon fodder. Actually, the only person Group

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A here is Anderson yea including me, Yeah, it's all decoys.
And then Anderson is on the kill team. That's the
one who's like the information embedded. All right, Robert, Fine, Well,
we're going to get to know you a little bit
better at a moment. First, were gonna tell our listeners
a couple of things we're talking about today. Uh, there's

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still a Democratic Prime mary going on, and Mayor Pete
Boudha is still in the race, So we're gonna check
in with him as he tries to prove that he
is normal human being man totally like like you, just
a dude who likes to chill out and be the

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center watch TV be the center. We're also gonna see
who Elizabeth Warren is scaring right now, which extremely rich
people she's scaring. Uh, we're going to check in with
our ongoing segment, Blow the Whistle. Specifically, we are going

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to uh look at Pompeo refusing to let the State
Department officials testify Trump's threats of violence. Where Trump's approval
rating is compared to overall support for impeachment. This is
all because of Russia. So we're gonna checking with that. Yeah,
We're also going to look at the Ukrainian child slash

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adult adoption story has an update. We're gonna check them.
With that, we're gonna look at the scariest Halloween costume. Uh,
and which fast food restaurant is putting it out? I
guess it would be unintentionally scariest. And then we're gonna
look at the Joker movie, which is coming out I
guess this weekend and all the hubbaloo about because everybody

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knows that that one guy did the shooting at the
last Batman movie. Uh, not the last Batman movie. No,
I know that was a cute few Batman's ago, last
good Batman, a lot of Marvels ago, many marvels, most
of the marvels, right, yeah, But because that guy said
I'm I'm the Joker. Uh, you know, everybody knows that

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they need to be scared about this movie coming out,
except that dude never said that. So we're gonna look
into that. But first, Robert, we like task our guess
what is something from your search history that's revealing about
who you are? I mean I have been looking up
night vision scopes for one of my rivals. Uh, so
I guess that's revealing. Um. I've also been looking up
just constantly checking every day on Eric Prince's various planes.

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He has a bunch of different ones registered with the
f a A, and I check in on a couple
of them every day, just seeing what about the ones
that probably aren't. Well, that's a great question. The good
news is there's a lot of just random people with
cameras who take pictures of planes taking off and landing
at every airport in the world, so you do have
a pretty good idea of where some of his ship
is at weight. There are people just as hobbyists are,

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just like we like to just take a photo of
every plane. That's how you remember on the episode of
Behind the Bastards we did we talked about that that
crop duster he armored and set up to fight. That's
how it got caught because it was someone just took
a picture of this weird plane taking off at the
airport at Malta, and then a bunch of like researchers
were like, oh, that's a bunch of illegal military modification
across and it was just some guy who's just like

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I like planes. Yeah, shout out to all the plane
files out there. Yeah, yeah, that's cool, that's interesting. And
then you can track where they're taking off, where they're landing. Yeah,
there's a bunch of different sites for it. Um. Some
of them are like I think plane trackers. The name
of one of I forget off the top of my
head what it's called. But there's like some some big
ones that you can get normal subscriptions to. But like

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if a rich person is like, I want you to
remove my registration from your from your history, they'll do
it like on request. And then there's this one a
D s B Database, which is like just a bunch
of nerds collecting information on all of the world's planes
and where they're going. And they don't remove ship so
you can just like keep track of the comings and
goings of the people who any rich person, Yeah, Michael

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Jordan's ship. Yeah, Taylor Swift, Taylor Swift, Yes, she's got
a Yeah, she's got a vanity registration on her plane.
I used to know it off the top of my head.
It's got t s and it obviously, and then like
the number of Grammys or whatever she's wanting. So cool,
you're saying, Michael Jordan's is two three six m J

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I think, okay, yeah, because he was number twenty three.
It's not them kids, that's right, He's not. He's a
big asshole. I thought you were saying he's fucked kids. No, No,
he's like attitude towards being charitable. That is where I knew,
like where I was most familiar with, like tail numbers

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and like the tracking of like flight logs from was
Jeffrey Epstein story. Um yeah, and also a Few Good Men,
which was only implicitly about a child sex. Right, let's
talk about overrated. What's something you think is overrated? Horses?

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With the fucking car get you're saying horses as transportation
just period? Wow, Okay, don't it's not useful. Yeah, this
has been a thing for you. You have an anti
horse agenda. I do horses. Who is overrating horses? I
think the world I know Lisa Frank, the covers of

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those notebooks that that a lot of people have when
I was in middle school that overrated horses and unicorns significantly.
Have you seen what Lisa Frank looks like? No, you,
she is a trip and she is like notorious. You
are visibly excited to show me this. Oh my god,
Oh my god. Yeah, she looks like someone who makes

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psychedelic folders. Yeah, she looks like someone who has not
come down from acid at she looks like the perfect
blend of a horse girl and acid person on acid.
Yeah yeah, um, So, I mean horses are beautiful creatures.
You would you would disagree with that? Oh yeah yeah,
I think they're ugly. I think they were unnecessary. Jack.

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We have dogs and we have cows. A horse. It's like,
you know, we have we have we have jeeps, and
we have trucks, sport utility vehicles. A necessary. So she's
saying we've as a as a society, as a species,
have moved past riding on animals because technology has replaced
not all animals, I think some animals, Like if you
can write a tiger, you should wow. Okay, So this

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is my support that there's a whole mythology around this.
Take that. I have a lot of complicated feelings on this.
Have you ridden a tiger? Have you seen a riding
tiger before? Not? Not yet? Yeah, not yet. But I
do believe that it's possible, right right, You'll know it
when you see it. M Are there are there any
instances where horses can do what like machines can't, Like

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riding over a mountainous terrain. I feel like you could
just get an off wheel, get a barrel and roll
down the mountainous terrain and a barrel than a horse.
What if horses were chucking? That seemed true, by the way,
but we'll move on from that. Like if it's like,
you know, it's not about the expense, it's not about
the expense, not about the I'm more put off on
Like it's it's just become more of a like class

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signifier for like you're really into horses, like at a
certain level. Obviously there are people who are like horse
ring and thinking that. But people are like, I love
my horse. I'm like, I think that's part of it.
I think uh, I think horses are pulling one over
on us. Wow, I think they are running a long
con and it's time people woke up. Okay, good are
johd pers is that that's a riding boot. I do

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support jodpurs, but not when being used with a horse. Okay,
got it? Yeah, um, this is all good information to have.
What those are the they're the ones blown out the
pants blown out the side right, Yeah, very British. Oh,
I think their boots, you know, their pants because I
remember someone said my pants looked like them because I
stretched the knee part too much out and they were

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like blooming out the side and like, what do you
got your person? And I threw those pants away because
it became very self conscious. What is something you think
is underrated? Stalking? Okay? Well, okay, like, okay, I think
it's I think it's a skill that can be used
for good or for evil. If you're just stalking like
another random person, particularly because it's someone that you're into,

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that's bad. But if you're stalking the right people, that's
really good. Jeffrey Epstein. People needed to be stalking Jeffrey Epstein.
If more people had been stalking Epstein for longer, might
have saved some kids some trauma. So maybe it maybe
a slate. Would you say vigilance? I would just say
stalk responsibly? Okay, responsible, stalking for good, stalking for good,

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or keeping track of the batties. Yeah, that's my new
five O one C s f G. Stalking for good,
stalking for good. Yeah, yeah, it's okay. So yeah, do
you know who are your donors? Oddly enough, Eric Prince
lots of money from Echo Papa, really like significant investments.
Who are who do you think is under stalked? I

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think jeff Bezos could stand to be stalked more. Um,
I think for his own safety, people should be stalking
Kanye more. I worry about him. Yeah, you you're worried
about it. I'm always worried. And let's say I think
he is somebody who, um, could could really use some
some help from somebody who doesn't want any money from him.
And he wasn't a fan of his music, but just

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cares about him being a happy person. Yeah, well he's
I mean, his his whole new ship is definitely taken
on a cult vibe because it's becoming church with him
being the central figure at these church services. That seems
like a bad evolution for him. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
that seems like it might end with him buying a
compound in the jungle and telling people to move there. Uh.
And I worry about well, I mean he was developing

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his own form of housing structures and things like that
that the city was like, you gotta knock this ship
off because this is none of this pertman know. Yeah wait,
he was trying to design his own like form of housing, yeah,
because he felt like it could be affordable and spread
over like that people could live in like yeasy pods, right,
there are pods like structures. Yeah. See this all concerns me.

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All of the pieces of a dangerous culture there, and
nobody screwed him together, thankfully, because I think he's I
don't think he has bad intentions as a person, says
an ego. He just has an ego. But I'm very
worried that that all of these different disparate things could
eventually become kind of like a rat tail wrapped up
in his ego, and then we could have a really
dangerous cult. So rat king of a cult. I want

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some good natured people in like a friendly and emotionally
supportive way to be stocking Kanye. Well, those are his fans, yeah, basically,
well no, but not his fans, Yeah, I think who
don't give a shit about his music? Yeah, who aren't
like just I'm gonna kidnap you and make the your
first album over again. Yeah, like me, I don't. I
don't care for his music, but I want him to

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be okay as a person. So I'm trying to like, uh,
responsibly stock Kanye. Yeah, I don't like his music, but
I think he's the Buckminster Fuller of our time and
just needs to get back to work on those Kanye PUDs. So, um,
what is a myth? Oh yeah, okay, So this kind
of ties into the stuff with a Joker. It's a

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myth that Heath Ledger was like all like went way
too into that that character, that he like like stayed
in character the entirety of the filming of The Dark Night,
and that like he lost none of that's true. Where
is that born out of? I think, um, I think

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it was in general, like after he died, especially, and
like after everybody saw how good the performance was, they
just like these myths started that he had gotten way
too into the character, and a Jack Nison came out
and was like I wanted him, Yeah, I warned him
that the Joker would take him do so. I wonder
if that fed this thing that because Jack Nicholson said
he warned him that in fact, the Curse of the
Jokers true or something. And there's like there's pictures of

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him just like posing when when he's like he's like
in makeup and stuff, but like smiling with other members
of the cast and like looking like a normal person.
There's pictures of him out of makeup, like eating dinner
with everybody during the filming, like one of the I forget,
which one of his co star said that, like, no
in between shots we would like talk about his like
kids and stuff. Not not ledgers, I think, but like
the actors and like I just from people who were

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actually on set with him, Like there was no hint
that like he had gotten Like the actual stories seems
to be like definitely in the wake of his death,
that was framed as like, oh, he got way too
into this character and was broken and that's why he
wound up o ding and the reality seems to be, No,
he just had a drug problem in the overdosed and
it's a tragedy, but like it had nothing to do
with him playing the joker and it taking over his mind. Um, yeah,

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I mean so, I think the stuff we wrote about
on Cracked was that he like for research in the role,
he like hold up in a hotel room for part
of the time and like did like a bunch of
like got into the character and was like scribbling weird
ship And yeah, I was definitely getting into character my
entire time in college. Yeah, I just don't think like

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he wasn't like he seems like everyone who ever worked
with him said he was like a great guy to
work with, and a great guy to work with, wouldn't
be like staying in the character of a murderous where
should like I don't know, like, dude, please and if
you break another pool queue burns the craft services table down?
Why are you still on that nurse's outfit? Uh? Well,

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all right, I was actually curious you. You were one
of the rare people who actually put answers next to
the categories on the page, and your myth was cars. Um. Yeah,
I decided I didn't want to get into that here.
But you have a conspiracy theory about cars don't exist, right,
interesting yep, and only horses do. You've never seen a

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car and a horse in the same place at the
same time. Man, I don't know what then you're talking about.
Let's uh, let's do the opposite of that conversation and
talk about Mayor Pete the most the yes of horse
and man Pete Buddha. Judge is just norm core. He

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is the most centrist of central people. Yeah, yeah, he
you know, tiny little man. He did a really cool
uh Hollywood reporter um interview. You know, I'm not sure
what it was. Basically, I like all of the things
that are most popular. Y. Yeah, just like fine, like, yeah,

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it's fine exactly like he says he you know, like
like star trek Ring. Yeah, funked with with Jean Luke Picard. Okay.
See nobody ever asked the right follow up question with that. Yeah,
it was just like, oh cool, Okay, my favorite interviewed
what's your favorite episode? What does he do in that episode? No,
not really trying to catch him. Oh yeah, you're a
fan of TG. Well that presupposed that the only utopian

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society would be a post capitalist one. How do you
feel about that, Pete? And what's your take on Guyning
from Guynan? Oh, I've got hella takes on that's that,
but we're gonna have to save that for the guy
in behind the Bastards um. And then also they asked him,
you know, like what kind of TV do you binge why?
She's like, well, like I like to channel Surf before

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going to bed, and then like I'll catch a little
family guy or Rick and Morty okay, and interesting, like
you like the you like the tunage, like the Younges, Uh, well,
actually know a family guy? What are you talking about?
This was that one? Yes? And when I was famous
show to like come in in the middle of an
episode and watched three minutes of Rick and Morty. Yeah right, like, oh,
I get it. Um. Then they said Game of Thrones,

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man hit us with it. What do you like about
Game of Thrones? Who who are you loving? He goes, well,
I think Tyrian was a really good political strategist. All
those to take didn't work out. And then again even
better when and you know, Dennis was really rooting for
Kalisi for a while, but then at the end there
she kind of blew it. Huh interesting, I was. I
was surprised he was just gonna be like full throated,
like I love Dennis. That's it for me. I think

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that coming Yeah exactly. Carpet bombed baby right, just fucking
raised that motherfucker. Um. And then they asked him what's
your Who's your favorite superhero? And this isn't this is
the answerlor because the one I identified with most is
Spider Man, because he's a relatively regular guy, kind of
nerdy guy who finds himself in a position of power
and it complicates his day to day life, but he's

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trying to figure out how to do good with it.
But who would I want to be. Obviously, Batman is
a billionaire and he's got all the great gear, so
that's appealing. Then again, he doesn't really strike me as happy,
So yeah, I'm gonna stick with Spider Man. So it
was he'd rather be the billionaire if the guy was happy, right,
But then he'll just stick with the nerdy dude who's
like He's like, you get it, dude, I'm struggling with

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this responsibility. Man, come on, work with me. This gives
me a great idea for next year, Miles. So one
of my favorite things to do is to buy a
very large cigar and stick in my mouth and shout
about Spider Man. Pretend that I'm j Jon. What if
we get you a Spider Man costume and we spend
the election stalking Mayor Pete and having you try to
take pictures of him while I scream just in the background.

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Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean I was especially weird once
he drops out of the race. Yeah you know he's in,
but yeah, you know, I would love to be on
the Secret Service radar. Yeah. I just I feel like,
if he really wants the Spider Man experience, having the
whole new whole, a whole tabloid newsletter dedicated to his exploits,

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how You Wish four miles. The people who work with
me have a history of getting on the Secret Service.
That's but I'm not writing books about fighting presidents. I
I do like that. He's like, well, obviously I would
like to be a billionaire like everyone, because having any
moral amount of wealth is the ultimate goal here in

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these United States. Um, I don't know. He just he's
so just clearly defined and like perfect, as like a
perfect realization of who he is. Yeah, well you know, look,
it's it's great. It's like no no hot takes there. Right.
I feel like he goes to a focus group like

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other people go to a therapist and checks in and
what am I like this week? Right? What what should
I be doing more of to relate with the normal person?
If you've caught him six months earlier, he would have said,
big bang theory. Right. He's like black Miller, Black Mirror, Mirror, Mirror, Missit,
Miller Mirror, Black Miller, Bander Scotch, big fan, big fan

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of it, and and oint oint be I'm sorry, Orange
is a new black. Oh never mind, all right, we're
gonna take a quick break. We're gonna be right back,
and we're back and Elizabeth Warren once again in some

(22:36):
hot water with the very well see people. Uh. I mean, look,
you can't buy pr like that. I was gonna. I'm
also gonna say, hey, Elizabeth Warrett, don't you want these
billionaires on your side, Lady president? The heck is going
on here. You can't be pissing off all the riches.
You gotta dog whistle and say, you know, I love Batman.

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I want to be rich billionaire. Uh, I'll take I'll
take bigger money in the in the general, at the primary. Yeah.
So Mark sucker nerd uh is the latest extremely wealthy
person who's not thrilled about the prospect of an Elizabeth
Warren presidency. Uh. And I don't know. It kind of

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worries me since we're still in a soft oligarchy. It
does raise questions about like how they're going to funk
with her campaign and if she wins presidency. And I'll
tell you, I don't really worry about that too much.
And it's not because they It's not because Facebook doesn't
have an influence on the election. It's because I don't

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have any faith that Facebook would actually know how to
effectively funk with an election if they were trying to. Yeah,
the only way they've been able to funk with an
election is by like ignoring Ship on their plot sheer incompetence. Yeah,
but yeah that was enough. That was enough. It's funny
how like, you know, everyone I think has maybe written
Burning off because he's just as easily bad news for
these people. Like last week we're talking about the CNBC

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thing where all these like wealthy guys are like, hey,
if it's Warren, we're going all in on Trump or
sitting this one out now you have I'm forgetting his
real name because I just want to say Sucker anyway,
Sucker Nerd out here saying sort of the similar thing.
But the meanwhile, like Bernie just raised like twenty five
million this last year. Bernie's still out here. He's out
here too. I mean they like, I don't think they
can even fathom that fathom possibility of It's like social

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social What're like, hey, Hollywood reporter, make Pete mayor Pete
look really chill to people, right, he likes Gang, he
likes Ricking Morty too, So maybe you can funnel this way.
But yeah, they the Verge got a hold of some
audio from this UM this meeting he was having like

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Q and A sessions with people with his employees UM
from July, where people are asking all kinds of questions like,
you know, like what about these these critics, like what
about the FCC finds know with Senator Warren, like moving
up in the world, how do we do this? So
his first answer was, you know, pretty telling. This was

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in direct response to the question, which is sort of
with and with the rise of politicians like Senator Warrent.
I was wondering how personally worried you are about regulators
coming in and breaking up Facebook? And this was his answer,
like Elizabeth Warren who thinks of the right answer is
to break up the companies? Um, you know, if she
gets elected president, then I would I would bet that
we will have a legal challenge, and I would bet

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that we will win the legal challenge. So it's it's
so it's um, So it does that still suck for us? Yeah?
I mean I don't want have to, you know, have
a major lawsuit against our own government. I mean that's
not like the position that you want to be in
when you're you know, I mean, it's like we we
care about our country, and I want to work with
our government to do good things and um, but good luck.

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At the end of the day, if someone's gonna try
to threaten something that existential, you go to the map
and you fight, go to the matt Mark. So they said, look,
this is my patch and if you want to step
then we can tussle. He was just thinking about all
the goats he used to slaughter when he when he
smoking meats. Yeah, yeah, just smoking meats. Basically, Mark, I

(26:12):
love to smoke meats. I mean that that I whole
idea too. I mean he was saying, yeah, that would suck,
but you know that's we've got I care about my
country shareholders, and uh you know we we want to
work with the country and make things better, just not
in other countries where our platforms being used to like
perpetuate genocide and things. But anyway, sure, go go on,
go off, go off, king Uh. And I think he

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also said that it would make election interference more likely
because they wouldn't be able to coordinate. Uh, you know,
the protections done such a great joke. They nailed it. Yeah,
well this is the answer that that was part of
the answer gave when sort of addressing the idea of
like breaking up these near monopolies, like what the what
were we gonna do? We're one of those, were one

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of Google, Amazon, Facebook that everyone's sort of looking at,
like what's going on here? Uh, And then he gave
a really chill answer that shows he really understands the
danger of this just centralized power. It's just breaking up
these companies, whether it's Facebook or Google or Amazon U
is not actually gonna solve the issues. And you know,
it doesn't make election interference um less likely. It makes

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it more likely because now the companies can't coordinate and
work together, which they did such a good job and
they've been nailing that so far, so good at it. Yeah,
and you know, like suspending people's accounts who are really
the real offenders on that on that website. Trump campaign
spent a million dollars this week on ads to count
the impeachment. Yeah, and so nailing it. You know, at

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the end of the idea that that's not going to
solve the issues, the issues like you're missing the point.
It's just that it's complete, you know, that near monopoly
on ship that is completely anti competitive and you know,
squeezes people out. Look what Facebook did the digital media
already just because it was so fucking centralized, and their
ad sales, you know, essentially changed the way people were

(28:03):
making content to consume. They also were lying about how
many views. Yeah, I knew that. Making video on Facebook,
you'd like, yo, always lead with the Facebook numbers when
you're trying a client. How well it did because you
get a play if motherfucker's are scrolling through the home
screen home screens. You just checked your timeline and the
video was like two weeks ago. That counts to the play. Yeah, yeah,

(28:26):
oh yeah, alright, let's check in with the whistleblower story. Uh,
I mean wow, so every day is a gift. Mikey
p pomp Pale is refusing to let the State Department
officials testify. Yeah, he he kind of went went all in.

(28:47):
He he was. He was angry. It seemed like, well,
there's you know, a our man's the Secretary of State
forgot he was listening in on that fucking call. Hey,
we all, I remember just the other week, Jack was
on the phone with Vladimir Putin ordinating this week's coverage
like always, and I was in the background, but I

(29:07):
I just completely forgot it. Yeah, yeah, it happens. You
were just listening in and you were insure was like, honestly,
I thought that was a podcast. I don't know that.
I wasn't even on the phone. It was just in
the events like I usually scripted. Yeah, it's just yeah,
this whole thing, right. So they they're asking for answers
from five department officials. Um, what's his face? The dude
who's testifying on tomorrow on Thursday, he he resigned, so

(29:31):
Mike Pompeo can't tell him shit, So he's free to
do whatever he wants. But the other five, um, I
think they are really you know, he's really concerned about
them going up to speak to these investigators in the
House because he says, he says the what they're asking
for race quotes significant legal and procedural concerns uh and
question the committee's authority to compel in appearance by officials

(29:54):
for a deposition. So you know, the people, some of
the people that he's summoning are there that are being
you know that they want to be deposed, as this guy,
Ulrik Breckpool, who is the State Department counselor, and this
is one of Pompeo's homeboys from a back in the day,
Like they went to West Point. They're in the same
graduating class at west Point, fucking then Harvard Business School,

(30:17):
then they worked on a Koch Brothers funded defense company
in Kansas. They're fucking down. And so he's like, you know,
his inner circle very much became at the State Department,
like his true inner circle of people he trusted. So
there's you know, there's gotta be some messy ship going
on there that these people, you know, they probably have
different goals in mine than you know, protecting the country. Um.

(30:39):
But you know a lot of people with uh expected
this response from Pompeo because why of course, like why
would this happen? And when they even asked corn Lewandowski
to testify, they got the same thing. And some insiders
are people who have been speaking anonymously who work on
the Hill have been saying, oh, we're doing that basically
like we knew, like we suspected that was gonna happen.

(30:59):
That way, we can add another article of impeachment. So
then you can say, oh, you're using the State Department
to obstruct our investigation. You're saying that this person who
works for the executive branch who does not you're having
him stolen while us to obstruct this investigation. So while
sometimes it seems very frustrating to see this kind of ship,
that could be what is brewing with these sort of

(31:21):
letters that being sent around. When he says that the
subpoenas are unprecedented, is like ignoring or refusing to comply
with the subpoenas also unprecedented, like that everything't happened during impeaching,
like previous impeachment inquiries, right, people weren't just like nah,
fuck you I figured at this level. Yeah, like most
of this is unprecedented, like the whole um. Nobody's even

(31:45):
sure if like McGuire broke the law by not forwarding
this complaint to the intelligence to vities within a week,
because like this has never happened before, Like yeah, like
none of this is uh, yeah, this is all pretty
pretty unprecedented, right, And well I guess yeah, because it's weird.
The wording of what D and I McGuire was supposed
to do is very clear. There's no ambiguity. It's like

(32:06):
shall you know? Shall you know? But if it's determined
to be of urgent concern, which how do you define
that right. He clearly didn't think it was right. It's
more like, do you guys want to see this? This
might be bad for you. I just got here. I
don't really want to be a part of this. Well.
That is one of the things you notice is that
like it's uh, in all the coverage you'll read, it's

(32:28):
like the acting inspector General, I haven't. We don't. We
don't have anyone who's been a pointed yes. No one
we can confirm YEA work that much. The president he doesn't.
That's he's got a lot of takes. He doesn't work weekends,
and he doesn't work most days because he's got executives
to be pissed. I mean he works as solid two

(32:48):
days a week. Do you want him working more? No? No, no, no, no, no,
no no. But nobody is hired. No, But like they
haven't even filled some position like at all, like from
from Jump Street, like animals, and a lot of diplomatic
positions to which is why like our whole you know, internationally,

(33:09):
a lot of our international Can you think of any
other time in history where there's a lot of career
diplomats were suddenly gone and then there was an international
crisis and things went horribly wrong. Never happened before. Yeah,
I mean, can you give another time in history or
since photographs have been around when a president hasn't aged

(33:33):
at all, since he's been in president. In the presidency,
he just looks about about the same. You know. Did
you guys see the picture of him with the giant
picture book the other day? Oh, there's a great picture.
And I think he's getting on a plane. He's wearing
like his his polo shirt and his his big forty
five hat, and he's got this huge book in his
hands that's like clearly an animal picture book. And one

(33:53):
of my colleagues over at Bell and Cat, Eric Toler,
like figured out that it was this but like the
Big five Animal of Africa, And it's like just a
book with like wildlife photos of like tigers and lions
and eloderance and like information on their like health and stuff. Like.
It's just like a big book of wildlife photography. I mean,
it's kind of adorable. It's not for him, I'm assuming, right,

(34:17):
I kind of think it might be. I think he
might as long as this might be the reality of
the bear channel. Let's not make the same mistake we
would did with Bush where we like turn him into
like a child. It's not a child. Yeah, okay, yeah,
well you're you're being tried for impeachment. Like this is
a very stressful time. How do you relax? I like
looking at cat pictures? I like, I want to look

(34:41):
at a tiger. Are they gonna tiger? They're strong? Hey,
look this up, Mick. Is there a way to write
a tiger? Get him the Tiger book? He's stressed out,
Like granted he's aged, but he like other presidents, it's
fucking stark man Like, yeah, well he looks he already
looked like ship. It's hard to know how much, but

(35:02):
I think the biggest the biggest thing you can tell
is in his speech and like that, Oh yeah, that's
really where you're like, well that that was already fallen
apart before he was president. Um. So, another thing that
is continuing to happen amid the whistle blower or the
impeachment inquiry is, uh, he is continuing to respond by

(35:25):
threatening violence. He brought up the possibility of a civil
war in response to him being removed from office. Uh,
and he you know, implied that he wanted to have
the whistleblower whoever supplied the whistleblower with information. Uh killed

(35:46):
basically because their spy tried for treason. Basically uh. And
he specifically said Adam Schiff, he had a tweet representative
Adam Schiff legally made up a fake and terrible state,
pretended it to be mine as the most important part
of my call to the Ukrainian president. Read it allowed
to Congress and the American people. It bore no relationship

(36:08):
to what I said, arrest for treason question mark um
which Adam Shift did a stupid thing where he did
like a sarcastic reading of basically the subtext of the call. Yeah,
it wasn't a good move. I love the responsibility of
our elected leaders, right, I mean he was not like
he was just being petty to try and be like

(36:29):
funny about it, but like it's serious enough that you
can just do and I get, like, I get the
desire to do that because you feel like you've been
like rhetorically owned, or not rhetorically owned, but constantly being
stone walled, and like now you finally get to fucking
puff your chest out. But the right ran within immediately
edited and put it out there completely out of context,

(36:49):
and that he was this isn't send in it live, right,
yeah right, And nobody who was there and heard what
he said in context would have misunderstood his intent or
the ton of his message in anyway. But you know
it was stupid and that this is the sort of
thing that Trump will just run to try to have
him killed. And Robert, you were saying yesterday when you're

(37:12):
in the office that you're kind of legitimately worried for
the whistleblowers safety. I share, I am, because the protections
under the law for intelligence community whistleblowers are basically non existent.
Basically non existent. Um. There was a law or a
presidential directive issued by Obama that added some protections, but

(37:33):
it's still like, um, there's a there's a significant amount
of legal precedent, and it's not it's not one sided
because some judges agree with this, but like a lot
of judges will say that like what this guy did,
UM falls under the Espionage Act UM, which is a
World War One era law that basically says that if
you reveal in like privileged information that you have a

(37:54):
reason to believe could impact national security, then that's bucking
trees and you can be executed for it um and
it's there. There's some whistle blowers have been ruled to
be in violation of that. Some haven't, Like judges don't
entirely agree on it. But Donald Trump one of the
you know, speaking of a guy who's been inconsistent a lot.
One thing he's been super consistent about since Snowdon came

(38:15):
out into this in thirteen, he has always said execute him,
execute whistleblowers like Trump was saying that well before. Now
that's that might seem almost remarkable until you realize he
has been consistent about wanting everybody executed. Yeah, he wanted
He wanted in the Central Park five executed, even after

(38:36):
even after they were proven innocent, innocent by DNA evidence,
he wanted them executed. There's nothing guiltier than being innocent
a person of color in his eyes. Yeah, so yeah,
I mean, somebody pointed out in an op ed recently
that the Civil War thing, the way that Trump has
dangled it or suggests that could happen, it's probably not

(38:58):
going to happen, Like he gets impeached and the people
rise up. Because for him to be impeached by the Senate,
like he would have to have become so unpopular that
like he wouldn't have enough support to like mount to
civil war. I mean, although there are enough like militia

(39:20):
groups who have outwardly said give us the word. It
might not be like, oh shit, a bunch of people
pulled up, but it might be like people with the
wrong idea to Yeah. That's my worries that there's a
lot of terror attacks and stuff by something. Yes, I
don't think he's going to get the Army of the
Potomac or the Army of Northern Virginia like marching on

(39:40):
d C or whatever, but I think a whole lot
of terrorism could be inspired. I mean that's fair because
what do we find that it was like twenty two
million to nine million in the Confederacy versus the Union,
twenty two in the Union, two in the Union versus
nine in the Confederacy. So I mean it was there's
a lee nine million people in this country would be

(40:01):
willing to go to bat with a gun for Donald Trump. Now,
granted that the country is much bigger than it was then,
but still it's like those numbers that would still look
really bad if he only had nine out of thirty
one million people supporting him. That would be like less
than thirty three percent, so that would be like a

(40:23):
very you know, that would be Nixon level approval. And
one thing that really I don't like seeing it is like,
especially over on Twitter, there's a bunch of posts pretty
regularly that will be people making some variant of like
oh yeah, like you get your Rascal scooter ready for
the Civil War, like take some picture of like a
fat dude with a gun and be like, yeah, you're
gonna take care of And it's one of those things

(40:44):
where I think, from one thing, that those comments are
made by people who don't have a really good understanding
of what's happening in rural America, who don't have a
really good understanding of like what actually it takes for
an insurgency to be dangerous. And I'm very worried that
if things go in the worst possible direction, we will
look back on common It's like that the way that
we do now when we read about young men in
the lead up to World War One being like it's

(41:05):
going to be over in three months, Like I just
hope that I get some time before Christmas comes in
the war ends, like yeah, I hope I can make
it to the front a couple of days. Yeah, um
where it's Yeah, it's just this fundamental um this thing
that we see before a lot of wars, because the
same thing happened in the Civil War that we had
where it's like you had Union Confederate boys being like,
I hope I don't miss the action. Like, uh, every war,

(41:28):
there's like this fundamental misunderstanding of what it's going to
be like because war keeps changing in very concrete ways,
and I worry that people are um not at already
for what could happen if the raw anyway look up
forward to uh, it could happen here season two with
my new co host Donald J. Trump, were very excited

(41:50):
to bring you debate how the civil war will go. Yeah,
but yeah, I mean when you think of like people
like the oath keepers, right, who are like first responders
and like ex military, current military whatever, Like that's a
group of motivated people who are out here and who
are out here who helped the elected some of the
elected leaders of the state of Oregon hide from justice

(42:11):
recently in order to thwart a democratic process and threatened
to murder any police that came police. Yeah, No, I
don't I don't think anybody should be, uh, you know,
speaking confidently about being able to out violence. Trump and
his supporters like, yeah, there are people who u gun

(42:32):
people they like to, but but the stakes are different, right,
There's a group of people who might be comfortable being
like progresses where we need to go versus this other
group who's hell bent on maintaining this like racist status quo,
and like this is an existential threat I think the
people politically, it's an existential threat for a lot of

(42:52):
people for Trump to be in office. But I don't
know how many people, you know, are thinking the same way,
like these oathkeepers who are like this is our live
like this is the this is the fucking guy. Yeah,
And I mean look those you know, whatever those numbers are.
But there are people in a very different headspace in
regards to this and are like out here literally saying
like President Trump, give us the word and we will,

(43:15):
you know whatever. People walking down the streets of Portland
with right wing death squad shirts for the last three
years because they really want to throw leftists out a helicopter,
like and it's one of those things where like and
this is like I guess goes into like kind of
how there's sort of a racial bias visa v. Terrorism
on the left too, because if the only differences these

(43:35):
guys were like Islamas saying the same ship, nobody would
be like making fun of how how overweight they are
or how silly they are. They'd be like, oh wow,
a bunch of like radicalized armed people are talking about
overthrowing the government. We should take this seriously. It's like, oh,
they're white Christians, so like they're just they're just fat
Bubba's Yeah. Yeah, not a great idea, guys, No, not

(43:57):
a good idea at all. But yeah, I think your
podcast is great listening to because we have a very
abstract idea, or a very misinformed idea of what modern
armed conflicts could look like within this country. Yeah. So
you know, another plug it could happen here. Yeah, it
gives a really detailed kind of outline of what it
would look like if a civil war were to happen,

(44:20):
uh here in these United States. Uh So, briefly, because
we were talking about, you know the fact that the
Confederacy was thirty three less than thirty three percent approval.
Uh well, it is worth kind of taking a look
at how impeachment is polling, how Trump is polling now

(44:41):
that we've had a couple of weeks or like a
week and a half since the whole Ukraine ship started
hitting the fan, So it seems like the mood is
shifting overall, shifting. Well, there's just so much ship and like, again,
they don't have a good there. Right does not have
a effective media strategy to talk about this without being like,

(45:04):
I will the fucking but hundred like what like this
answer for this? And again, look, a quick tip to
the GOP if your defense for a crime starts off
with what about you look guilty? As the number one
story on like the far right, on like bright Bar
yesterday was about a photograph of Joe Biden and Hunter

(45:24):
Biden golfing with a guy who was on the board
with like somebody from that gas company. So it's all good, okay,
So what should we if like, look, if if they
want to go there, then let's pull out all the
books on them Trump's kids. But again, that's completely a
distraction because we're avoiding talking about what the president actually did,
and it completely throws everything off. And I think that's

(45:46):
how people on the right are able to maintain their
sanity at the moment around this is being like, well, yeah,
I mean, Joe Biden probably is real sneaky, so maybe
the president was looking out for a tax dollars. I mean,
I think I think people need to start acknowledging there
is a like proximity to power bias in this country.
Joe Biden's kid did get a shitty like lucky draw

(46:09):
where he was probably given a ton of money just
for being Joe Biden's kid, and yeah, it all stinks
like shit, and yeah, that that's not great. Still, like,
first of all, as president is as guilty of that
as anybody in the entire world. And also like that
has nothing to do with I just like worry that

(46:29):
the left and also the mainstream media are being like, yeah,
but that's beside the point and like ignoring that. It is,
like the Biden thing is shady like independence, absolutely, yeah,
but I don't know if it's a kind of corruption though,
that is that amounts to like engaging foreign governments to
get to the bottom of I think that's no. Yeah, sure,

(46:52):
that's where the media can yes and these things and
be like yes, yeah, that that is that nepotism maybe
should be looked at. I don't. But again that doesn't
excuse what you are doing. And also just like look
at the Obama administration's actual handling of the Ukraine crisis,
and it's like if that's if that's the Obama administration bribed,
Like you're not getting a lot for your bribe money,

(47:17):
Like we really kind of left their asses hanging in
the Yeah. But now the mood right around impeachment is
his approval rating is now six points lower than the
support for impeachment, and I now support impeachment as the
next president. Yeah, you're saying, you want if the election
was today, would you vote for I would vote for

(47:37):
president impeachment. I think we should just never stop impeach
a AI baby always. But yeah, so of voting Americans
approve of the way Trump is handling the presidency presidency
against fifty three who disapproved, and forty seven percent think
he should be impeached and removed from office. But as
they're note in this article, the figure is the same

(47:58):
for those who think he should not. However, however, this
is a ten point movement on both in just five days, right,
and ten points up for impeachment, good, ten points down
for impeachment. Yes, exactly, which is you know, it's it's
actually very similar to what we saw happening with Nixon
and stuff, where it's like up at the early stages

(48:19):
of the Watergate people were like, oh, it's not worth it,
don't wow, that was like why do we give a ship?
I was shocked at how late it was in the proceedings, Like, well,
Nixon being removed from office when he resigned, was only
fifty seven percent first of all, Like it was fifty
seven percent support for that, and he had only recently

(48:40):
surpassed fifty was under fifty percent, Like for basically years
of the Watergate investigation, the idea of removing him from
office wasn't didn't have a majority. And then like it
was like the last week, uh, they were like yeah,
there was a tape released that had Nixon saying, uh,
s do the cover up of the crime? The crime?

(49:05):
And he was That's when people changed and he immediately resigned.
That was like a week before he resigned, Like a
couple of weeks. Trump overall approval disapproval numbers are starting
to move, Like he was nine plus percent underwater when
the news first started breaking. Now he's twelve percent under
and also anecdotal. But I've talked before about how I

(49:31):
stay subscribed to a brepe Bart mail subscription mailing subscription thing,
and I got an email from them. It's almost always
just a scam email aimed at getting old people to
invest in something that Bill O'Riley supports. How much gold
have you bought the last year jail? Oh my god,
I have over of my assets in gold. So this

(49:54):
investment scam supported by Bill o'reiley. Their email today was
bragging that Trump had ret We did a link to
an event where Bill O'Reilly was selling his pro Trump
book and scamming old people out of their money, and
they were like, look, Trump supports are scamming old people
out of their money, because I don't think that's what
was happening. I think Trump was just like, Hey, this

(50:16):
book is good about me. But they also said after
they screen grabbed his tweet, they said, love him or
hate him, you can't ignore this. So they're making room
for people hating him, which is definitely not what I've
come to expect from bread Bart. I mean, love him
or hate him, he could end all human life with

(50:37):
a push of a button. Yeah, with a fucking tantrum. Yeah,
oh boy. I mean one of my favorite side stories
that did not get nearly enough play is the I
think it was the forty six secretary of State. After
Trump got elected, it took to Twitter and all he
would do was repeatedly explained to people, Oh no, there's
no checks and balances with the nukes. He could do
whatever he wants with the nukes. Everybody should know the

(51:00):
president has no checks on his power to in the
world unless someone physically breaks the law. Just was like,
I'm going to restrain the president. Yeah, it's like he
like clearly is just yeah. I wish people would ask
any of the candidates about that. It's like, what do
you think we should change anything about that? Should we
just keep hoping that he's the last unhinged, doddering old

(51:20):
man who becomes president. Right, Yeah, and yeah, he can
have a fuck you temper trans from button that just
irreversibly changes. We're not going to talk about that. We're
just gonna keep talking about taxa Okay, that should become
a thing. Yeah, especially in the Democratic like primary, like
how are you going to limit the powers of the executive?
Like it's out of control? And this has been a
complete disaster for the country. One of the great points

(51:44):
everybody makes about how climate change should be getting more
taught is that, like, yeah, the whole future of the
species is on the line with climate change, but also
with the nukes. I feel like that's one that we
really can say is right up there with client. It
will change the climate too, very quickly, very very quickly.
Uh what a laugh? Yeah, fun here, all right, we're

(52:05):
gonna take a quick break. We'll be right back, and
we're back. And so is that Ukrainian child adult? Uh?
So we talked last week, I think on the show

(52:27):
about how the horror movie The Orphan was coming true
h because a woman had come out and basically said
that a child she adopted who was supposed to be
six was actually uh two h and was putting bleach
in her coffee. Yeah, would stand over her. Within Jesus,

(52:52):
she would wake up and she'd be standing over with
a knife. This is horrible. Well, yeah, one at the time,
it was like sort of being disputed because these parents
are being charged like child abandonment because they're like, no,
like this is an adult who tried to kill us,
and we're trying to say, like, we can't be a
guardian to this person, to this adult, and they're like,
that's why we're in Canada, because we're taking care of
our other child. We do acknowledge as being the parents,

(53:14):
and this is some adult who tried to kill us
and who attacked a baby, well like staring while we
were taking care of What do we know if that
baby provoked him? Yeah, that's exactly I mean, But I
mean there was tape, so I think it wasn't seen
over a baby monitor, so there was not tape there.
It was just the live feed for Eli Roth movie
about this in a year and a half. Right, Well,

(53:36):
there already is a movie. It's called Orphan and basically
beat for beat this story. Um, but there's also a
prolonged legal battle now because it's hard to prove that
she's Like there's a thing called a bone density test,
uh and she has been found to be like a
child and also an adult and like different. I guess

(53:58):
it's enough that like you can have one doctor take
it with an eye towards proving that their child, and
they'll be able to prove that. Uh. So, I mean
I think a big sign is that she had all
of her adult teeth of her adult teeth and full
pubic hair at six with what they believed was Yes,
there's just never a time pubic hairs come up in

(54:20):
a court case and it not been a terrible court Yeah. Yeah,
it's never good. But anyways, Uh, the I think the
Daily Mail has located the child on social media or
the child the the orphan Yeah, adoptee on on Natalia,
I think her name is. They located her on social media.

(54:42):
She is now living as a child with a different family.
Uh so according to her timeline, she's fifteen. Uh, they
still appear to be dressing her and children's clothes, but
the parents are apparently aware of all of this and
choosing to just treat her like the child. She chooses
to live as a boy, you know, as long as

(55:03):
she's not poisoning their coffee with bleach poison, like trying
to murder them. Yeah, I'm that is the minimum I
ask for in a roommate. So yeah, yeah, but if
my roommate chooses to live as a child, but that's
what makes them happy and feel like they're living a
fulfilled life, I'm happy to do that. Yeah, they believe

(55:24):
what she's thirteen or fourteen at the moment, No, I'm sorry,
sixteen she would be oh, okay, I got it. And
they seem very uh devoted to all of their adopted children. Yeah,
they seem like a really lovely family. I wonder if
she figured out She's like, all right, I gotta tone
it back a little bit. If if I want like

(55:44):
a family unit to stay, and I gotta I gotta
dial back the killing stuff, the talking about how they
don't teach you that in Orphan school. No, yeah, that's
when you got to learn on the streets. When did
Orphan come out? Is it possible that she was in
a facility where the movie Orphan was on loop and
gave a bunch of bad ideas? Now I think I
think it was after the fact. Oh, that she should
actually be sou in the studio, right, infringing on her

(56:07):
intellectual property. Um, well, let's talk about something equally terrifying.
The official Duncan Donuts Halloween costume. Wait, there's a Duncan.
They nailed it. What the fund is it? Dunker yours
a donut? Right? So we talked previously about how their
Taco Bell is putting out Halloween costumes. Food based clothing

(56:29):
is the wave, right, now fast food, fast food based clothing, UH,
and Duncan Donuts decided to join the Halloween costume with
so that you know, there's a saying that we have
in these parts. America runs on Duncan and UH. The
way they expressed this is outline of the United States,

(56:52):
outline of man running and then Duncan clever America run
on and then it's above Dune, America run Duncan. I
wonder how many hundreds of thousands of dollars that add
campaign costs to put together. How do we know the
tents based on those images? Right? They could running America run.

(57:12):
It could be dun That would suggest that America that
Dunkin Donuts is run by a popular like popular vote
from I mean. It could also just looking at the image,
it could also suggest that America re enacts the Ministry
of Silly Walk sketch from Monty Python over Duncan. Yeah,
it looks like a person could be falling down while

(57:35):
trying to do a yoga poset um but or Superman.
They've decided that they want to the yellow stick or
the pink stick finger is how they decided to turn
the concept of Duncan into a Halloween cost uh, and

(57:55):
it is basically like that, it's Charlie Day but in
from Always Sunny, but in a pink costume instead of
a green one. Yeah. And apparently there's a rubber man
from season one of American Horror Story that is just
a person in like a full black rubber, full body,

(58:15):
full face black rubber like gimp suit, gimp suit essentially,
and uh, this is the pink version of that. It's
such a dumb it has in my I mean, you
must really be a dunkin Donuts fan. I'm sure Jamie
Loftis would know the significance of this, but if I sawted, like,
what the what some people are now pink man like
we're we're off green Man now. Yeah, it's a terrible

(58:36):
idea in every conceivable way. Um. And the only thing
that that gives me comfort is knowing that the people
responsible for this idea make more money than say, nurses, teachers,
Oh so much more. You could. You could, you could
run two or three schools, and they're succeeding by us
covering it. They are. Yeah yeah, So I mean I

(58:57):
didn't say they didn't earn every dime yet every penny. Uh.
Apparently also community did a thing and all of the
pop culture references where they do this, it's about reference
to how creepy it is. Yeah, um, well, you know,
good luck to Duncan. I think a donut maybe would
have been a better idea or food item. Oh they don't,

(59:19):
they don't, they don't. They don't play up the donuts part.
That's why they're just dunk a lot man. We got
Dippie Stickies and Sandy's, and I was thinking outside of
the donut box. Yeah, okay, you guys want to hear
what I would have done as the ad campaign. I've
of course, I want to know what kind of idea
you have about just a just a black poster with
red letters Starbucks coffee smells like cat piss, no other branding,

(59:43):
just just straight up going attack on just an attack
on Starbucks and have been Eventually people figured out for
themselves who's funding this campaign? Who believe the Starbucks? Yeah?
I think it smells like cat piss? You believe in
life after love? I don't know why I can feel
something inside at me say, I really don't. I don't
think it's strong enough and I know that I can

(01:00:05):
do this, but um back to the is it? Uh?
Is it all is? It's just their drip coffee. I
don't really get caught. I only get there. I only
get drip coffee. I don't I don't like the mixes.
But there's beer dunking man. Huh. There's a darkness to
it that reminds me of drinking. If I'm going to
pick coffee from like a big chain that's everywhere, I
will pick Duncan ahead of Starbucks all the time. I'll

(01:00:27):
pick pizza ahead of Duncan. Um. Obviously, Phills is the
best of the chains that we have access to here
on the West Coast. They do a decent Turkish. Yeah, yeah,
it's not actually jezuva coffee, but they put a little
bit of cardamomentute some min What a Turk What is
a Turkish? Turkish coffee? Well, like actual Turkish coffee when
you make it hot Jack does Turkish me but too, No,

(01:00:51):
I'm just curious what a Turkish was. It's like, yeah,
like they have a special type of pot that they
make it in. But like also Turkish and Arabic coffee
often in lutes cardamm which is really good in a
blacks of your life, and sometimes a little bit of
like VNT or something. Um, if you get a sara
Jevo coffee, it's a Turkish coffee served with a cigarette,
which is yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like what they'll give

(01:01:13):
you go into the Balkans. Yeah, they'll give you a
fucking cigarette with your with your cigarette with your coffee,
if that's a sara Jevo coffee. But if you're like,
give me Sarajevo, then if you don't say give me Saraevio,
there's no no, it'll say it on the menu, Sarajevo coffee.
That's how I figured it out, was like, oh, I've
tried a lot of coffees, I'll try a Saraevo coffee.
It was just Turkish coffee with a cigarette. Wasn't like
somebody had smoked part of it. But home dude popped

(01:01:35):
a lighter out as soon as I set the thing down.
He knew why I wanted it. Damn well. Fuck that
they didn't write about that. And it's a lot of
his diary Go to the Balkans, EO, did you have
to read that book? It's a lot to his diary
back in the nineties that was about like she was
growing up in Sarajevo. Man, didn't many bad happen there
at some point? I don't know. I didn't read it,
you know, I've only I've only read the history of

(01:01:56):
Bosnia from to present, and it seems like a pretty
right ye from when if we bear our heads in
the sands like we do in the American in the American, See,
I need my Duncan is Pizza the most caffeinated coffee
of the of the chains I think I read? Is
that even a thing? Like? Are they flexing on each
other with their caffeine count? No, you have to like
look at the website Caffeine Informer pizzas website, Caffeine Informer.

(01:02:22):
Is that a real function? Like you just changed my
life caffeine, you know, Sammy, I'm trying to get jittering now.
Oh my god. Caffeine Informer is great. Caribou Coffee the
complete caffeine. Well, this is I'm gonna have to cancel
our recording sessions for the rest of the day. Yeah,
just look at Caffeine Informer. Yeah, Duncan Donuts Coffee Caffeine

(01:02:45):
content Guide. Damn. Caribou is very caffeinated. Yeah, also tastes
similar to Duncans. So maybe Duncan's more caffeinated than I thought. Oh,
they're really out here like ranking this ship. They are. Yeah,
they do the milligrams and everything. They have a whole
art and if you're like, hey, if you want luck alone,
I've never talked about caffeine informer on like keeping that

(01:03:05):
you're hiding a child from us, Jack, You're hiding at child? Okay,
drake of caffeine? Could we just could just you are
hiding a child? Uh? Damn dude? Large the large Caribou
brood coffee three and eighty five milligrams that caffeine. That's
a lot of a lot that that is a substantial amount.

(01:03:28):
So for some comparison, the large uh for brood of
Duncan's is just three hundred um. That means that a
Caribou coffee large has more than a Duncan extra large
of brood coffee. Okay, damn song, where'd you find those?
Let's talk about the Joker movie people. So there are
stories that are coming out basically on the daily about

(01:03:52):
how this movie is a threat because it's basically it's created.
What Time magazine is saying, a character who could be
the patron saint of in cells. Uh, Slash Film, I
have some bad news for them. Put it more subtly. Uh, yeah,
that they're already is one that there's a couple of
Kelliot Rogers. The Slash Film critic was like, it feels

(01:04:17):
like if Scorsese made Taxi Drivers a comic book film.
Amazing performance, great score, but I'm not sure it knows
what it's trying to say could potentially be dangerous for
the wrong person to watch. I think those are fine
things too, Uh. I mean, I think it's it's a
mixture of like people believing that violent film and TV
makes people act violent, and also a lot of residual

(01:04:40):
trauma from the Aurora shooting. We've begun to attach this
sort of methos around what the Joker character could inspire people. Yes,
so that is something that I had. Uh that it's
stuck to me the myth that the shooter at the
Aurora shooting, who shot up a movie theater where The

(01:05:01):
Dark Knight Rises was being played. Um, that he had
said the words I am the Joker when he was arrested. Uh.
That myth comes from Raymond Kelly, former nyp D chief,
who was had no bearing on the arrest or, you know,

(01:05:21):
and police who did arrest him were like, we don't
know where that came from. He had dyed hair that uh,
in my mind was dressed as the Joker and my memory,
uh not a dressed like a mass shooter. Um. He
was extremely mentally ill. He was very mentally ill. He
had a weird set of beliefs about like that he

(01:05:43):
like he didn't have any value as a person for
some like weird esoteric reason that by killing other people
that would increase like his relatively he had he had.
He was a profoundly mentally ill young man who had
like not that which is actually pretty uncommon in mass shooters,
who had a long history of like he'd been working with.
The therapist was like, yeah, this was It was very

(01:06:05):
concerned about him. Um. And it had nothing at all
to do other than the fact that he picked what
was going to be. He wanted to kill people, so
he picked what would be the most popular showing the
fucking dark Knight rises. You know, it could have been
sucking the Jumanji remake if it had been a year later,
Yeah or whatever. My timing isn't exactly right. It could

(01:06:25):
have been the King speech. It seems like there's a
lot of agencies to drumming up even more fear, like
a lot of official notices going on to people, Hey,
like be careful at this movie. I did you read
the army notices to like off duty soldiers where they're
like find two points of exit. Yeah, keep your head
on the swivel. It's like, yeah, they're not warning you

(01:06:46):
how to like be safe with your off duty and
a bagdad bazaar. They're talking about going to a cinema,
Like that's not a great sin to run, hide, fight, right, Yeah,
there's a lot of I mean because also, like can
you really call the joker an in cell? Because I
believe Harley Quinn he had a main thing the joker.

(01:07:07):
The joker is what's the what's the polite way to
phrase this? Dripping in it? I mean, he's a joker, right,
Like he's a sexy guy. Everybody thinks the jokers sexy.
He led your played him last time? Yeah, yeah, no,
I wanted to funk the joker. Everybody wants to funk
the joker. That's never been debated in their culture. But
I think it's Yeah, it's just that the story that

(01:07:28):
they're presenting of his backstories like there of too many
people are going to relate to. And it's funny because
Todd Phillips, the director, has been really fucking terrible at
like talking about this film. Um, it turned into like, oh,
you know people are like the people are freaking out
for no fucking reason, blah blah blah. Um. It's funny
because one thing that we should note is that there

(01:07:49):
was a woman who was actually inspired by a Todd
Phillips film to do something bad. If you remember, in
Wedding Crashers and the Drink Move, a woman did that
to her fiance and when arrested her, she was like, oh,
I think I saw it in Wedding Crashers. Um, and
that does funk you up real bad. It's not great.
But recently, just uh the other day, I think yesterday,

(01:08:11):
he had an interview UM in Vanity Fair and he
was basically saying that First he's like, this isn't some
kind of in cell like anthem, but also wope culture
is ruining everything, and he says, this is a direct
quote friend thing. Go try to be funny. Nowadays with
this wope culture, there were articles written about why comedies

(01:08:31):
don't work anymore. I'll tell you why, because all the
fucking funny guys are like, funk this ship. Because I
don't want to offend you. It's hard to argue with
thirty million people on Twitter. You just can't do it right.
So you just go, I'm out. I'm out. And you
know what, with all my comedies, I think I think
that what comedies in general I'll have in common is
their irreverent So I go, how do I do something

(01:08:51):
irreverent but fun comedy? Oh, I know, Let's take the
comic book movie universe and turn it on its head
with this and so that's really where that came from.
God cool again. So disingenuous to just blame the societal
progress on your inability to adapt, your ability to create
new ideas. Well, I mean he he does have a

(01:09:12):
point in that you can't do in a reverend comedy anymore,
which is why Always Sunny in Philadelphia is only on
season fourteen. Uh, South Park is only on season twenty five.
You know, you just you can't do that anymore unless
you're one of the many people who gets paid tens
of millions of dollars to do it. Yeah, I mean,
think about all the funny guys. It's funny guys. There's

(01:09:32):
no comedy on TV. I mean, I don't know if
you saw that between two Ferns movie, but I think
that was probably completely direct by PC culture because he
doesn't stay in line with PC culture. David Chappelle can't
get millions of dollars to be part of an incredibly
popular Netflix series anymore, which is why nobody has heard
from Eminy years. It's such a anyway. I mean Todd Phillips,
it's I think he doesn't under he's not willing to

(01:09:55):
see what other people are seeing about his project without
taking it like person an offense to it. Yeah, and
I I like we said, I mean, some of the
ship that's being directed at his movie is somewhat baseless,
but it's it has nothing to do with woke PC
culture and the fact that you know, our politics are

(01:10:17):
evolving and improving and you should still be funny unless
you have really problematic beliefs. I think that and one
like in terms of like what the actual threat from
this is, um, I would say, yeah, I mean it's
theoretically possible some person who has is very imbalanced sees
this and decides to do something as resulted, just like
a taxi driver convinced somebody to shoot at the president. Um,

(01:10:41):
there's always a chance of that, just because there's a
lot of people who have all sorts of different ship
going in their heads, and you never know when someone's
gonna watch wedding crashers and decide to poison their spouse
or whatever. I think the much likelier thing is that
this is used as a joke by the next channer
who decides to shoot up or whatever, and they decided
to blame it on the joke or movie just because
it's going to cause a ship fit, And that's kind

(01:11:01):
of get people talking, just like sort of the christ
Church shooting. All the references to Spiro the Dragon and
stuff subscribe to Beauty Pie, because like that's a thousand
times likelier than any of these people actually be inspired
by the movie. Is them being like, well, if I
if I name dropped the joker before I go on
this mass shooting, then that's going to like dominate the
narrative and I'll get extra days out of the news

(01:11:22):
cycle about this, and it will do more to like
lead to the unraveling of this country, which is my
ultimate goal as a mass shooter with these weird white
nationalist beliefs like and so. And in that case, you
could argue that just sort of like the massive media
debate that's been kicked up over like is this movie
dangerous or not is actually the most potentially dangerous thing
about it because everybody's like focusing on like is this
gonna spawn a mass shooters? So mass shooters like, oh ship, Well,

(01:11:44):
if I want to really stand out because it is
a crowded field for mass shootings these, If I want
to stand out, name drop the joker before somebody else does, like,
and you can just tell there's just are it's just
exploiting and existing fear that people have because I mean
this and it's completely a product of our reality in
this country where yeah, people commit these atrocities and some

(01:12:05):
and some people are sort of savvy in terms of
the Internet and like to infuse other cultural touch points
to try and amplify their their effect or at least
the discussion around it. Yeah. One thing that a lot
of people don't tell you is that when he shot
uh Reagan inspired by taxi driver to impress Jodie Foster,

(01:12:25):
Jodie Foster was actually really she was really down. Was
that the whole deal, like he he had it all
mixed up in his head or something that he he
didn't even hate Reagan, he just wanted to. Yeah, And
but so it wasn't just that. It was also another
thing that was mixed in there was the assassination of
John Lennon and the Beatles, and he was inspired by

(01:12:47):
the person who shot John Lennon and their relationship to
catch her in the Rye I think was tied in there. Yeah,
like the actual whenever you look at the actual shooting
that have been or the actual crimes that have been
inspired by movies, the problem is never the movie. The
problem is always like that we have this completely broken
mental health care system, and so there's just going to

(01:13:08):
be a certain number of people out there who are
going to like find inspiration and whatever because they have
a serious problem that desperately needs help. But the vast
majority of our of our people who do ship like
that aren't inspired by a movie. They're inspired by months
and years of propaganda to carry out what they see
as a military attack, which is why you're seeing more

(01:13:29):
of that lately than just some random shooting up a school. Yeah. Yeah,
so well that and the easy access to those weapons
to make that even efficiently sure don't help. Yeah, So
in conclusion, we should keep the Joker movie from being released,
but allow Fox News to keep being on every day
where they tell you, yes that you're under attack, and

(01:13:53):
make sure really got to keep the price at a
R fifteen is low. It's definitely lower than a month
of therapy because the sub next of all this is like,
let's blame the Joker and not the systemic issues that
that lead to the formations of these kinds of personalities,
because it's really easy because then you actually, well, how
do we deal with this? Was like okay, well get
a band guns. It's like, well, but we got the
Second Amendment thing, this large junk of the country that

(01:14:13):
won't go with that, and so then now we've got
this political battle and it's like, oh, funk that, let's
just talk about the Joker, right exactly right? I mean, yeah,
I think Todd Phillips sucks. What where did I get
involved this? All right, We're that's it for today. We're
not going to take another quick break. We're gonna just
fucking leave Switcher Twitcher rou Robert. It's so it's been

(01:14:36):
great being here. Uh, where can people find you on
on Twitter? At? I right? Okay, I have a podcast
called Behind the Bastards, which you can listen to if
you like podcasts about terrible people. Are you talking about
this week? Uh, we're about to talk about the clown
World meme. I don't know when that one will be dropping,
but the President just retweeted from the clown World stuff.

(01:14:57):
So that's a fun one. That's gonna be a fun
meme to really get into. Um. We did a Jerry
Fallwell episode recently that one to drop. Um, And I
have another podcast with Katie and Cody from some More
News called Worst Year Ever, which is about the worst
year ever. So you guys, yes, I think when they

(01:15:19):
came on Behind the Bastards and never never clarified that
you're joking. So I will do that now and point
out that it is about the current political atmosphere in
being the worst year ever, contrary to what Robert thinks
as the host of the show. Is there a tweet

(01:15:39):
you've been enjoying? Friend? Yeah, it's a tweet from months ago,
but it still makes me laugh every time I read it. Uh.
And it's from Darcy Wilder, who's one of my favorite twitters.
Has anyone ever showed in Ted Kazinski A Jeff? I
think it might change his mind. That's funny. Miles can
people find you? Find me if ow me Twitter, Instagram

(01:16:01):
at Miles of Gray. Before I get to my tweets, though,
I want to let people know again October six, seven pm.
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(01:16:22):
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never know, but you won't know until you go there.
Man Twitter went off, I actually have a few I like.
First one is from Extina Underscore Catherine and says. I

(01:16:42):
used to work at a boutique in Hollywood. Billy Zane
shop there so often we made it into a game.
Whoever could say his full name to his face the
most time wins. The restroom is closed, Billy Zane. Those
look great on you. Billy's an' sorry, I don't smoke
Billy's ane idea of saying Billy's ane's name to his face.
Another one from at L brand Brand High school teachers,

(01:17:03):
you could be real with history teachers, English teachers, high
school teachers that were costs, math teachers, jim teachers, um.
And then finally from prim Awesome at prim Awesome, Mike
prom Mrivera says, my neighbor told me coyotes keep eating
his outdoor cats. So I asked how many cats. Uh,
he hasn't and he said he just goes to the

(01:17:23):
shelter and gets a new cat afterwards. So I said,
it sounds like he's just feeding shelter cats to coyotes.
And then his daughter started crying, Oh my god. And
then finally, just because there's um Trump Trump seller, is
that account that like follows um all like the Trump family,
like their likes and their follows, retweets and ship um
and they said that real Donald Trump's account like this

(01:17:44):
tweet from Eric Swalwell, and it's basically. Eric Swalwell tweeted,
Intimidating witnesses and threatening investigators is what most innocent people
do when facing charges, and then he liked that the
on He's like, he exactly exactly. I'm innocent. Wow, I'm convinced. Yeah.

(01:18:05):
Cody Johnson tweeted dating apps are good because you get
to meet so many entrepreneurs. Uh Mirror Celeb tweeted Kanye
West claims l a is quote run by Satan on
his new album and uh Satan at s eight and
tweeted he needs to mind his business. Yeah, facts facts.

(01:18:26):
Uh Fred Delicious tweeted, nobody says butt munch anymore despite
people eating as at unprecedented levels. Uh bog Person tweeted
everyone smokes a bunch now and wants to die and
has detailed opinions about art and it felt cool and
interesting until I realized we're just becoming France and Leon tweeted,

(01:18:47):
if she's your girl, then why is she heating me
in a tartara at twelve degrees celsius and folding me
over and over to draw out any undissolved impurities before
forging me into a seven layered blade. It's a good
question from Leon. You can find me on Twitter at
Jack Underscore. Oh, Brian, you can find me. You can
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(01:19:09):
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as well as the song we ride out on miles
What second be today? Okay, for the song, let's go
out on something light, a little up tempo because you
know it's a bit of a heavy episode. Uh. This

(01:19:32):
one is from Tolata. Now, Tota is this producer who
got his start with the group d Light. You remember
us in the heart Okay, great producer and also made
a great song called tech Nova featuring Bebelle Gioberto, the
fantastic Brazilian vocalist. You might remember this if you listen,
If you actually listen to the song all the way through,

(01:19:52):
and you're a tribe called quest fan, you might recognize
this as a sample from Find a Way from the
Love Movement album that was how produced by j Dilla.
A little bit of hip hop history for you. Okay, yeah,
so take this, take this little Uh it's a groomer,
you know what I mean? It feels lighthearted, some real
good music in the office. So I don't know which

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one this is, but probably very good. The Daily Zeitgeist
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