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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season episode two of
Daily Night Guys. Yeah, a production of I Heart Radio.
This is a podcast where we take a deep dive
into America's share consciousness and say, officially off the top,
fun Coke Industries and hey also funck fox News. Look,
it's Tuesday, August two, nine ten. My name is Jack O'Brien. Ak.

(00:22):
Now I got check notes footnotes. Hey, Miles Gray, oh
so much. You can say Jack cat pack just like
before at cracked Notes more quotes. Everybody check foot notes. Yeah,

(00:46):
a little off the feat there, but no, not at all.
What are you talking about? What was on that? I
was locked in? Uh? And that is courtesy oft AM.
I was using Polly Rhythm. So I'm glad you appreciated that,
and I'm thrilled to be joined as always buy my
co host Mr Miles so of the Chiba Baby, So

(01:15):
why don't you chill me? And also an a k
A from at three forty five am. That's an exact
new Kid on the scene. I don't know why the
wake the avatar is frightened. It looks like, you know, look,
if you're in the lab just coming out with the
soot three am is that a reference to something that
when you were born quarter to four quarter to four. No,

(01:38):
I don't know, No, I was born. I think I
have no idea it is when I was born. I
was born the first time, you know, when you find
out like a rising sign for astrology, like what time
you're born, figures otto or whatever. I remember I asked
my mom, like the first time I heard about it.
She's given me like four different times every subject went
time I had. So that's how I know, Like I

(01:58):
don't even know what I am and don't know what astrology.
I just know that I was born at an inconvenient
is the one thing that I know. It was like
old woke, Yeah, I woke my mom up, and well,
we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by
one of the very pases on Mount Zitemore. He is
a hilarious comedian by the name of Billy Wayne Davis.

(02:21):
Hey you guys, Hey, that was good. You guys are giving? Yeah, yeah,
I know, it was amazing. What do you think? What
do you think when your guest host? How do we
do that? I don't remember us singing. I love that
part because that was that was the only part of
the words. I was like, I'm not gonna sing, and
then we just didn't do it, so it didn't even

(02:41):
come up. I know it's really up to up to
the guests what they want to do. Yeah, and you
didn't pray. I didn't feel pressured, and it was like
a nice first date. Really, this is a good dude.
I listened to I want to listen to the last episode,
today's episode or yesterday's episode with Lacy and immediately wanted
to retire ever doing a k IS again because her ak.
You should have seen the rehearsals. There were rehearsals and

(03:04):
I was a full on stage mom where when she
messed up, I stopped the instrumental and I said, we're
going from the beginning. If you don't do it perfect
all the way through, we stopped the moment there's a mistake,
and we go to the top, get rhythm to it,
and and if you funk up. And that's the thing
I learned just from playing like trumpet as a kid,
my first trumpet teacher. Whenever I would play a solo,
the second I made a mistake, I started from the top.

(03:27):
And then it's just a way to you know, a
good way to memorize rap verses too. I use that
same device to memorize when you write something, Do you
keep writing the same sentence over and over until you
get it right? Or do you just get everything out
and then go back over it. What do you mean,
like just like a stream of consciousness type, like if
you're writing like a script or something like that, Because
there's that's like two distinct ways. Yeah, yeah, no I didn't.

(03:52):
I don't think I took my writing seriously enough to
like develop a proper way process. Yeah, that's very honest. Yeah, look,
I'm should be you know what it is. Most people
will be like, well, I'm like Tim Robbins, can I
see some writing? Absolutely? Yeah. Well he had a thing
where he's like, I stare at a blank cursor real
like it comes like he doesn't type anything, Like there

(04:15):
was a there was a time when I was reading
a bunch of other people's like processes. I think he
just wants quiet. Yeah, and he's like, no, this is
my process. It's like you've been looking at the cursor
for like four hours straight. Tim Robbins, the actor, Yeah,
he's a writer. Yeah, he I mean that one movie
he made about a sucker proxy. Nah, the one that

(04:36):
he wrote that was like a mockumentary about a politician.
Oh yeah, yeah. Anyways, I think I think I read agree.
It was on HBO. Yeah yeah, it's it's like called
Bob Thomas or some ship. Anyways, I am, you know, back,

(05:02):
happy to be here, right back in the right back
in and uh. And we're going to get to know
you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're
going to take our listeners through a couple of things
we're talking about today. The thing that's on everyone's mind exciting.
Dunkin Donuts has announced when they're bringing Pumpkin Spice season back.

(05:24):
They're treating themselves like their God. We're gonna talk about
the Seagull Wars. We're gonna talk about gentleman by the
name of Jeffrey Epstein. The first two things you said,
I was like, stop it just stop. Uh. That new
movie where a bunch of elites hunt deplorables, all of that,

(05:44):
plenty plenty more. But first, Billy Wayne, we like to
ask our guests, what is something from your search history
that's revealing about who you are. I got an email
from my wife about this hotel we're staying at in
December for our friend's wedding, and I just googled what
it was because I saw the price and I was like, well,
that seems impossible. Is that Is it a house? It's

(06:08):
not a house, but the grounds are nice and stuff.
It's like what area palm springs there? So people don't
know where you're at. Yeah, and I've never really done
anything there. So it's just like that old Hollywood and
it really is like the grounds are like old and
you can tell, like if you didn't know about stuff
like this is impressive. I know where you're I know

(06:29):
what you're talking about. Yeah. So it's like it's there's
some cool stuff there. It's like all boutique stuff like oh,
and then there's a resort fee and you're like you
mother and to two color prints. Yeah, and you use
the ping pong table. Springs fight everyone here are there
springs and palm springs because like it seems to me

(06:50):
like a place that shouldn't exist. It's just like carved
into the desert. And when you walk outside you can
hear like the city just being It sounds like a
city that is on like a respirator. Well, I know,
the fucking air conditioning, just electricity that's required to just
keep it livable, or even when you see people on
the street, like when it's full on palm spring seat

(07:11):
and I'm like, wow, yeah, used to walk the streets.
Yeah yeah, but they do have hots. They have actual
hot springs in palm Springs, so that there's a reason
for it to exist. There's a reason for the season.
What is something you think is overrated? Overrated? The Internet? Hey?
Fuck the Internet? Yeah. I just think as a as

(07:33):
a tool, we're misusing it. I may have said this
before on here, but I do think like every time
I get on it, like I'm like, I'm not using
this correctly. I'm using it to feel worse about something
it is. Yeah, and then the information I'm getting and
putting on my brain is pointless. It's like, how much
does the helicopter costs? You know, just just you doing well, No,

(07:55):
I'm not That's the thing. I'm not doing heliclops. I'm
just curious. And that's where we're like, how much does
a meg cost? Not that much as far as Meg's go,
get Yeah, you get one from under a million close
to million bucks. That's pretty good. What about a helicopter?
Depends on the type of helicopter you can get, like
the pretty affordable ones like a hundred and fifty grand.

(08:16):
Oh yeah, they're like kids. They're they're pretty cool. I
don't need a kid helicopter. We need one that if
it ship pops off for like, yeoh, we gotta we
might have to dust the helicopter off like a gun ship.
You want, like a Huey from Vietnam, Yeah, or black
I did see. I was talking to my manager on
the phone the other day. Uh, and while we were talking,

(08:38):
the swat helicopter circled my neighborhood with the dudes hanging
out of it with the guns. Yeah. Because it was
that that, I did do a mental checklist of all
the start to do anything. How about piste off anyone
that's good at the internet right right? And then they
just kind of flew away. Do you know what happened? No,

(08:59):
that's the fun. And I got that Citizen ap that's overrated?
How about that? Yes, it's overrated. It it's like a scanner,
but use it and then they can you know, there's
like real time stuff. But last night there was a
chase down my alley. I watched it happen. They were
chasing and you find out about it like run over. No.

(09:19):
I was coming home from doing a set and I
saw the helicopter. Was like I saw the beam and
I was like, that's real close to like where I'm
going my home now, pull in and I get out,
and the helicopters like real low. And then I watched
the beam and it's going down this alley by my house.
And then this Kia Soul just flying by. Three cops

(09:43):
fly by, and I was like, that's pretty cool. It's
like the gaony. So I felt like, yeah, yeah, great
opening scene went in and I went in and my
wife was like that helicopter sent it low, and I
was like, hey, there are a police car. Was awesome
making stuff up again. Billy babies asleep. I think they're

(10:06):
chasing the giant hamster just amped up. I'm like, I
love well. That is like my kids like every time
there's a helicopter over top, them like wave to it.
Waved to the helicopter and it's like, actually an oppressive
police state that we waved right exactly. They're nice guys. Yeah,
what is something you think is underrated? Underrated? The movie Wonderland?

(10:28):
It didn't get a lot of heat or press when
he came out and came here like a long time ago.
I was in college, so like fifteen years ago. Val Kilmore,
Val Kilmer, Kilmore, Val Kilmer, John Holmes, John Holmes. Oh,
and the way they tell the story is amazing, and
whoever put it together, it's just one of the best

(10:51):
uses of music I've ever seen in the film, where
it's just the whole thing is wonderful. And the way
they shoot l a in the way they tell the story,
I just think it's it's just terribly underrated because when
I bring it up, like you guys are like, what
is it? Yeah, I remember it coming out and thinking
I haven't seen it. I've just I remember it coming
out and thinking that it was like a movie that

(11:14):
got green lit after Boogie Knights was a sensation because like, yeah, yeah,
they were just like another born like kind of caper thing,
because Boogie Knights, as we know, is a caper and
kind of watch to the value. Uh but yeah, that's
but this it's got Lisa Kudrow. She's amazing. She plays
John Holmes's actual wife. She's a great actress. Eric Basognian

(11:39):
am I saying that Bogosian damnit, Like, sorry, man, I
know it's and I'm I'm out here. I'm in North Hollywood.
Fun him up every time, trying to do the right thing.
He's amazing. He plays his character named Eddie Nash, who
was like a real dude in Hollywood for a long time.
He was very scary. It's just he's on loves in it.

(12:01):
It's really really great. It's nice. It's I was looking
at when it says the production company. You know, the
production company is Movie Pass Films. Yes, because I used
to be Helios, the parent company, and they rebranded it
as Movie Past Films last year. So when I looked
at us, like, wait, movie pays film out here, Megan
moves from day one, you know, just just didn't in

(12:24):
the dark. They're the ones who moved it to the
West Coast to escape Edison in the first place. Um oh,
did you guys see Once upon a Time? I know,
Myles you saw times. Yeah, that's it's odd, but it
has a lot of people being like, hey, you want
to go eat at that one place? Or what about this?
What about this place? Have you been to bench Chiliball.

(12:45):
I'm like, yeah, I've been okay, what just just shut
up or not chilly but the other place uh el Coyote,
Uh no, not Elka. Well, I always used to go
to Cosa Vega where they do get super fucked up
at one scene. Yet. And what's funny is when I
was a kid and he was Brad Pitt was married
to Jen Andison, I used to I used to see
them at Cosa Vega back then. Yeah, so familiar ground

(13:09):
for Brad Pitt. It's almost like a lot of the
cool yeah man, A lot of the movie were like, hey,
there they are. It feels almost like a museum exhibit because,
like you know, he just like focused on getting all
the details right, like he's like playing real like ads
from the time and like showing you real shows from
the time and just yeah, I feel like if I

(13:30):
were a director like Tarantino, I would just be so
obsessed with like the late eighties. That was my thing.
He loves that era of yeah cocaine. Yeah, I mean, hey,
well I think that is a lot of Tarantino's movies
are like based on when it was like cocaine wasn't
bad yet exactly, Like so we have to do it

(13:51):
because that's what they were doing, or you shoot your
wife with a fucking speargun and yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
interesting movie. I don't know how I feel about it yet.
I usually like to give myself a week, but it
definitely stuck with me. He's an artist, that's the that's
the underlying thing. You can say whatever you want to
about that, dude, but every time he makes something people

(14:12):
feel shipped. Afterwards. I got something to say about that,
and he's like, I know, all right, And finally, what
is a myth? What's something people think it's true? You know,
to be false? Epstein is dead. Oh I don't know
that to be false. I just think that it's gonna
so convenient. Like it's like when kin Lay remember him, Yeah,

(14:37):
when he had to have a lot of questions about
that was like immediate heart attack. No one had any
questions and he went away. I was like, was he
in prison at the time. No, he was in Montana
or something like that before the trial and all that,
and then there was like a missing millions of dollars
and then he has a heart attack and we don't
hear about anymore. Like that's just that's the architective Enron,

(14:59):
which is one of the biggest financial scams of all time.
He was tied in with like Cheney. Cheney was a
high up at the company. A lot of different people
in the Bush administration were you know, tied into what
was going on there. And then like as the house
of cards came crashing down, he just suddenly died of
a heart attack. Died vacationing in his home near Aspen, Colorado,

(15:23):
three months before his schedule. You know, stressful Aspen. You know, God,
damn this giant cabin I live in. Oh yeah, he
was you know those get ready my heart, you know
those vacation heart attacks like Scalia died of too. Yeah,

(15:44):
I mean at a remote location. And people are like, really,
why do you think like that? I'm like, cause that's
what I would if I was, if I had all
that stuff and all that access, I'd be like, oh,
you know, it's a good eight to make people stop
coming after me. Die Yeah, fake your own death by

(16:06):
I mean yeah. With with Epstein, it would it would
be I mean, the whole world is paying with With
ken Leigh, he was out on vacation with Epstein, it
would have to be like a magic trick. Because he
was in a room with cameras on the door, uh,
on the door, on the door, well, but not not

(16:28):
inside what's going on? So I'm not saying it's impossible.
I'm just saying we'll get We'll get to that later on.
Everybody's new queueing on theories, Miles, when does pumpkin spicy
seasons start this year? In my mind, this is this

(16:48):
is part of the corporation's way of letting us know
what season we're in ever, right, so when you see pumpkin,
you're like, oh, it must be fall. Yeah. Uh. Some
companies are so fucking thirsty to get this going already,
Like Dunkin Donuts they're declaring August twenty one the beginning
of pumpkin spice season because there's nothing like a thick, rich,

(17:09):
pumpkin spice hot latte in late August, right, And you're like,
oh man, what we're great. The butt of your pants
is sticking to you because you're sweating. Go on, no,
I mean I've just heard that that's what happens to
people who sweat a lot. That's what other people. I mean,
I'm always dry all the time, but yeah, it's very

(17:29):
you know, it's like every single thing is getting inched
up closer and closer. I don't know. Again, we've talked
about this in the past. This really uh bizarre fixation
on pumpkin spice in general, like why it's been deified.
Uh Like some people we work with, I think it's
like the fucking like the god's blood type dj dan um.

(17:51):
But you know, I mean they love it. They're they're
do backflips and ship if you just mentioned it. Because
I don't carry it tastes good when it's on a
lot to it makes sure latte. It tastes like taste,
makes your coffee taste more like it's a milkshake, which
is never a bad Dan doesn't eat anything that is
not pumpkin spice, like his cheerios are pumpkin spice. Like

(18:14):
everything he has pumpkin spice that he dusts on a
steak exactly. Yes, it would take a pie, dries it
out the sun and then grinds it up into a
fine dust. There's a he's got a mental problem. He's
like the peppermint milca that is good. I like that,
and it's not good. It's like five thousand galleries. So
that's the thing of all these things. Single one is

(18:37):
even close to being my favorite one A coffee bean
and tea leaf, the Winter Dream latte. I mean, I'll
put that there. I like the Black Forest. Isn't that
just cherries and chocolate and milkshakes milk check? But it is.
I just got caffeine in it even better because it's
chocolate covered coffee beans in there too. And I remember

(18:58):
the first time I had it. I was like working
with one million calories my first adult job, like at
an office, and everybody was like, oh, let's go get
coffee coffee being I'm like, I don't drink coffee because,
like to this day, I cold brew is the only
thing I've ever gotten a semblance of a caffeine boost from.
So to me, going to coffee was like, I don't
know what I'm gonna border here. It was just bad
tasting water. Yeah, I just go. I get the most

(19:20):
childish fucking thing on the menu, and it was that
Black Forest basically shake and they're like, whoa, you don't
want a coffee. I'm like, na, this is my favorite, right.
It was great, it was delicious, But then I'm like,
I look like an idiot. Everybody's like drinking their hot things.
I have like a fucking gigantic couple. Whipped cream like overflowing.
Yeah after you smoke weed. Oh my god, that thing.

(19:43):
You're ahead of your time, man, because they just got
more and more ridiculous and childish looking. Yeah right, Unicorn chick,
which was purple, pink and blue. Yeah, I don't look,
that's the thing they really like to. They realized if
we put cool colors in, people will buy it. Because
there's the unit. What was the other one. I think

(20:03):
they're like a casino though. Word. They're just like it's
they're just shining stuff. They're like, hey, remember uh the
band cherry Pie. They're here this weekend and people yeah,
and then people come see them and then they spend
a million dollars while they're there. And that's what Starbucks realizes, Like,
if we can get them in that store, this weird

(20:24):
thing they can take a photo of, they'll buy three
other things. It's just like and I say it and
everyone's like, oh yeah, and then we got and then
it works. Yeah, and you're in there to you and
your Instagram stories. But I got three of them. Fill
that whole baby. Um. Well, older just coffee because it
I use it when i'm on the road. That apps

(20:45):
pretty good and it's like familiar. Yeah, like when I'm traveling, Oh, Starbucks,
but I just order coffee there and that always just
throws them off, like just some blonde roast in the
right drip. They just stay like in a cup. Just
turn around and give it to me and I'm gonna
get out of We can turn into a vapor. You

(21:06):
can act a cup of coffee. Let me see if
we if we make those. I do wonder how much
of this move is based on them knowing that this
is going to be earlier than Starbucks. Right, so this
will be the only place that you can go to
get pumpkin spice. But then for the month of a
some dude in an office did some math. Yea August one.

(21:28):
We can have exclusivity for ten days or something before
we'll make a hundred fifty extra thousand dollars. Yeah, but
like you get a boat. I just like the inevitable
conclusion of all these things, like you know that and
basically almost after Halloween were essentially already in Christmas like
mixed with Thanksgiving. That if Duncan does this, then what

(21:49):
Starbucks next year is like, Oh, actually August fourteenth and
when we're bringing pumpkin spice lat and then pumpkin spice
lattes becomes like a dad's and grads thing like graduations,
graduation time. You know, Pumpkin Spice Ltd. It's justin from
Resident PSL Addict DJ Daniel. He said Starbucks they're starting
there is on August, so they're gonna get six days. Wait,

(22:11):
I guess that's that Hunter for the extra Kaye. He
referred to it as the PSL so casually the way
he said it was it was it's horrifying. Well, I
think the part that makes me laugh is the ecstatic
to it, because it's like it's like the pumpkin color.
So people are like, this is the pumpkin season, So

(22:32):
I spend my money on the pumpkins. And then, like
you said, like Halloween is like it's a broader orange.
So and then there's a black to us. You spend
your money on the black. And then it's like red
and green. That's that's the spend a lot of money
green and then he saves them and then it gets
red again for Valentine's Day. Okay, that what the Christmas

(22:55):
colors represent you with blood and money, that's how I
was raised to my house. Yeah, that doesn't. All right,
we're gonna take a quick break. We'll be right back,

(23:19):
and we're back. And Jeffrey Epstein, this is not that
he's dead. The most predictable shocking news ever, What are
you talking about? This is perfect, Like what's going to happen,
just like JFK, just like not eleven. They'll have a
report that will be unquestionably the truth, right, and then

(23:42):
we can all move. Yeah, I mean, it's it's weird
because it's weird because you find yourself like Russian bots.
You can now like they're now media outlets that track
all the Russian bots and see like they're putting their
money in the Clinton body count and it's Clinton body count.

(24:03):
They're trying to get the you know, get conspiracy theory
that makes Bill and Hill already feel good. You know,
do you think like in a way Bill would be
like nobody's gonna pull up. Well, I mean, if you
are with that myth around you, but like I don't
like it. But if you are a power hungry person,
which is arguably what that family is, there is an

(24:26):
aspect to having people fearful that you could knock them off.
So you're like, look, we didn't do that, but that's
pretty cool that people are saying we didd Yeah, that's
another element of whatever octopus power arms that they're fucking
playing octopus power arms like that. That's what it is.
Like all there's like it's like Cheney having an office

(24:48):
in every Yeah. Yeah, that's that that kind of shift
where it's just like you let it's like Keith Richards
being like, I never parted as hard as they said,
but I didn't correct any of the like yeah, and
yeah I did, but he didn't he say he did
actually snored his dad's ashes. He did? That was true, right, yeah,
because I mean he also wouldn't say he wasn't. Yeah,
well he wanted to, you know, say it was a

(25:10):
fucking proved. Yeah, he just didn't party as hard, blew
a rail of his dad's ashes. They line up a
gagger for me my dad's ashes, and we also say
it was like we didn't have to do that many
drugs because we got the best drugs last long. Yeah,
this guys awesome. That's right. So I mean with the
Epstein thing, uh, he young himself. So Friday evening, Uh

(25:34):
is that how they said he did two thousand, yeah,
hung himself. Uh. To Friday evening, two thousand documents were
released from a I think a civil suit, uh from
what defamation brought by one of his teenage sex slaves
now grown up against jis Lane Maxwell. What I don't

(25:54):
I don't know, don't think. Well it is felt like
g h I s l A. It's was like, I
think it's just Lane, Jiz Lane baby j z z
l a N. Maybe it's Lane. I mean, look that
might be the American spelling, you know they I mean,
that's probably not how they pronounced it, but you know
that's how like some of those maybe it's Helene Zake

(26:20):
Gang if you know how to pronounce they just let
us KNOWL. But from the news, I've heard people be
like just Lane. But anyways, people thought that's what we
were gonna why we were gonna be talking about Epstein
all weekend. There were all sorts of like creepy details
Likence Andrew and Prince Andrew. There were like some uh
you know, actual pictures of like memos of like calls
people made. One head of a modeling agency who was like,

(26:44):
I have this girl who says she loves Jeffrey, and
you know she's asking for you. And uh, there's another
girl who is eight plus eight years old. I guess
because they were afraid that if somebody heard them say
sixteen years old, that would be weird or something. So
were they you know, because law enforcement, right is notorious

(27:05):
for not knowing arithmetic, so they put it in a
very deep code of just basic rithmetic. But anyways, there's
a lot to dig through. I'm sure we'll continue to
have Prince Andrew, Queen Elizabeth's husband, right, it seems to
be her first son, her first son, it's Prince Charles.

(27:27):
I mean technically maybe her son and husband, but Prince
Charles's brother. Anyways, he uh, he seems to be the
one who we're getting the most details about. What do
you do head sex with children? Yeah? I think I
think everybody implicated this was having sex with children. Okay,

(27:50):
it's just a little more like that. It put a
little more you know, there's more fact detail, more facts,
and like so deeper than that. The question I have
is like, first of all, where's his money going to go? Now?
Somebody was like, well, most of it's already tied up
in the Caribbean. So well, that's where they have to
begin figuring out where that stuff is so then it

(28:12):
can be put into an estate and then victims can
seek damages from the estate, but based on whatever they
can find. But that's not funding the money. I mean,
there's the house. I mean there's some things that they
can but I think yeah, but that's the other thing too,
is I guess until we know what all those documents
actually said about what his wealth could be or not be. Yeah,
I think they ended up like people who looked into

(28:33):
it ended up putting it at about five that's it. Yeah,
I was deep sarcasm. Was that it dude that whose
dad worked at the parks department in Brooklyn, right, who
ends up sixty years later worth five million dollars. How
much of that do you think is parks money that
he inherited? I think you know, if you if the

(28:55):
pension was different, and if you spend a lot of money.
I can't remember. So he uh, Saturday morning it broke.
He hung himself, was pronounced out at the hospital. I
this is something that we had talked about that like
protect him, put him on suicide watch, make sure he
doesn't die because him in a fucking like the thing
Magneto was in an exmo. Specifically what we said, I

(29:19):
can't remember. A. I think that the thing this reminded
me of was like when the U. S. Military didn't
find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and it was like, yeah,
no ship. But it was like so it was almost
like so unsurprising that it became surprising at how like
bald faced it was and just like just how like

(29:41):
openly like it was what everyone expected. But the fact
that it happened exactly as everyone expected is crazy. Yeah, well,
because I think everyone it was. It's weird. It was
one of those shot Oswald on TV. Yeah, so this
was like yeah they did shoot hospital straight, not like

(30:04):
not like this one. They were like, this is gonna
be easy. Well, but the thing with this, right, it's
it straddles this thing where it's believable enough that you
could say that you could believe many That's what's really
interesting about this whole Epstein cases that a it has
the interest of both parties for the wrong reasons like
going away right and he was, And then but then

(30:27):
on top of it, because of all the people that
were very powerful that are tied up in like all
the vague things they say, like politicians who who knows
how many and how high up that could be of
what was it? A um a president of what country?
Like an Asian? There's just a lot of people like
you said, like, we're that's right. I mean, he's in

(30:47):
prison in New York where like some of the people
implicated are like hedge fund billionaires. When he first got
on that, when he first got arrested, I was talking
to friend of man who travels quite a bit and
his dad isn't difference stuff like you know, like a
lot of I wouldn't say finance, but in that world,
and he and I were talking, he was like, oh,
my dad brought up in and he was like they

(31:09):
arrested him to go get the information he has. That
was his theory. Wow, to consolidate it basically was to
like all these people came together when we're like we
need to go get rid of him, which I thought
was like that to me made the most sense if
you're being logical about like all this stuff is right
if if it is that coordinated. Right. But again, here's

(31:30):
the thing though, too, because I as much as I
want to think like he was just murdered by this conspiracy,
because I don't think he was murdered. I don't think
I think we are. Also, I think it's probably easier
to just be like this guy, this person who is
suicidal and it already tried to harm himself. Just let

(31:53):
or let whatever. But just let that play out is
one version. But then when you also think about, like,
you know, what his mental it was. I could also
believe that he wanted to take his own life because
of what the the amount of legal jeopardy he was
in because he's basically not going to leave jail ever
um and then the but then you look at also,

(32:13):
I think a lot of us too, when we saw
this happen, we said, oh my god, this could be
the thing that topples so many of these power structures.
And that's where it starts thinking like ship because you're
like this person who knows what the information they had
that was a threat to you know, I think that
him and he was even when he thought he was
going down and didn't go down in Florida. Even now,

(32:35):
I think there's like an ego thing where he's like,
I don't That's why I don't think he killed himself.
I just think that he goes too big to Although
they say narcissists one of the like once your whole
because you've like puffed yourself up with all this like
false ship, once some of that goes away, they're very

(32:55):
susceptible to suicide. So I don't know, I just think,
I just I mean, that would have happened in Florida, Yeah,
except he knew he could get away with it, and
I think now it wasn't long enough for him to
think that it was all gone. So yeah, I just
I just don't think. I mean, you know, everyone has
something right that they care about that they love. I

(33:16):
don't know, he had a brother, you know, he had
this heiress. I'm sure he had some friends that were
going to be implicated. So I mean, there's plenty of
ways that they can make it so that you are
incentivized to kill yourself, right, and then they take you
off suicide watch. And he's supposed to have a cellmate,

(33:37):
uh to you know, be there and sort of be
monitoring him essentially, because that's what happened the last time.
According to like, the official record is that he tried
to hang himself in his cellmate like alerted the authorities.
Uh So, I mean, at the very least, it seems
like the fact that he wasn't on suicide watch, that

(33:59):
the guards did check on him every thirty minutes, uh,
and that he didn't have a cellmate are all questions,
Like those are all reasons why, Like that's that's a
passive conspiracy where you're just like, look, make it so
that he's able to kill himself. We've talked to him,
He's going to know what's right. Well, a lot of

(34:21):
those guards were working like their fifth or fourth overtime shift,
like they were saying that, Uh, that correctional facility is
like seventy staffed, so people are on average working sixty
two seventy hours, So you already have like overworked guards
who might not really care that much. Yeah, there's a lot,
I mean there's lots. Cool. Uh. That's also where they

(34:43):
sent l Chapo tell you what they were holding him,
which you would think that dude seems like a flight
risk Chapo. He has a history of just walking out
of prisons. And then they're like steel just understaffed, and
now they've got a dude who could break the a
whole world open, and they're just I'm with you. But

(35:04):
I don't think. I just don't think he did it.
I just I don't. I don't. I think he's too
much of a fuck you kind of dude, because that's
been his wholemo. I think is get blackmail on people
and then take their money, and then gain information and
then take their money. That's someone who thinks they're smarter

(35:25):
than everyone. So I think that they, whoever it is,
they did all this passive stuff so someone could walk
in there and be like, either here's how we're gonna
do it, and it's gonna make it look like you
did it. Because I just don't think this dude does it.
I think it's very believable that he does. I think
he takes pills. I don't think he hangs himself. I

(35:46):
just don't think. Well, I mean again, look this is
at this point, there's no real truth we can lay, no,
we'll never know. But I just think the type of
person everything I've read about that dude is just he's
not not a good guy, not not the sort of
person who feels he doesn't he doesn't get his hands dead.

(36:08):
If that makes sense that he uses others to do that. Yeah, well,
I think you know at the very least. What was
interesting was see William Barr come out and feign his
outrage at the whole thing, to be like he's like,
oh wow, how well, it's interesting to a lot of
pundits were like, you know the fact that he said, oh,
there's a lot of inconsistencies at this at this facility

(36:31):
that we're like, we're looking into that, Like lawyers are
saying because his his family could sue this jail for
like even putting getting him in a situation where he
was able to take his own life. And the fact
that even William Barr says that they're like that would
be their first exhibit was the head of d O
J basically saying like, yeah, this place, I think it
wasn't run very well, which is an odd thing to

(36:52):
call out, but also like if you're again, this gives
credence to these other conspiracy theories to where they're like,
well a g bar Is probably could be caught up
or no people who are at whose livelihood or their
reputations are at steak bars father, the one that hired
Epstein to teach at that school with no credentials. Is

(37:13):
that true? Yes, Uh so there's a weird book into that, right,
That's what I'm saying, and then to have the head
of the do o J be like, I don't know,
like but also kind of take this tack of like, oh,
I don't think he wasn't he wanted to give enough
steam though two people, it's it's I'm saying one thing,
but I'm also not saying another thing on purpose to

(37:36):
let the whole he wants a ship storm instead of
the truth, right, And that's why this whole it's just very,
very to the opposite of what you want from the
Department of Justice. I mean, I'm sure, I'm sure people
behind the scenes and in the executive branch where saw
that Trump retweeted somebody being like, no way he killed

(37:58):
himself or something like that. More like, well, we can't
have him saying it's so I guess we'll have to
say I mean, that is the problem when you put
someone like that in charge. He's say all the things.
I mean. So the hope is that this doesn't make
it impossible for them to still uncover some of this
ship because you know, there the information is still they're

(38:19):
just because like it's not like we were hoping that
he was going to still the beans on everything. Well,
his criminal case is over, that's the only thing that's over, right,
So they're still going to be looking into this. And
even as we're recording this, a dozen FBI agents just
rated his pedophile island, uh just now just now pulling
up to his Caribbean getaway and speedboats and roaming the grounds.

(38:39):
And after his suicide two days after, that's the first
time they got into maybe we should into that. All
these hard drives are all fried, the papers are there's
like a burning pile of paper. Just hurricane here. It
looks like there was a hurricane went through the house.
This is the one thing that bar said. And again

(39:01):
we don't know how serious he is, but when he
was saying, any co conspirator should not rest easy because
they're gonna figure out. That's what's weird to me is
I don't understand. You know, if there is a version
right where on the right it's that Jeffrey Epstein died
because the Clintons were caught up in it and they
can't have the truth come out. Then you have the
Trump body count thing that's on the left, where people
are like Donald Trump had this done because he was

(39:24):
also implicated, So you're not sure like what side anyone
from either party is not because but even like bar
though right, he was trying to he was even trying to.
He almost seemed like he was on the like Clinton
body count train, but the way he was doing it.
But then at the same time, when you consider the
information that his like other people that he knows, could
be implicated, it's like this thing, it's just I don't

(39:46):
know where people are gonna land the partisans. That's what
they're trying to do is confuse it and make it partisans.
And what it's revealing to me is that at some
point it becomes a game to these quote unquote partisan
sides that it's not partisan. It's about keeping their money

(40:09):
and power and that's all they want and if they
have to play with dudes like Apstein and all these
other people. I just started watching the documentary The Family
on Netflix. You should start watching it. It's fucking fascinating.
It's about this uh invisible group that just they're Christian.

(40:29):
It's guy named something co. They're behind the National Prayer Breakfast,
but they've been involved with every president since like the sixties,
fifties and sixties and just quietly and the way this
guy goes about and they've got to reach around the world.
I'm just on, I just gotta done with the episode two,
so uh watch it. Uh. But it's also that kind

(40:51):
of that's what it's gonna reveal and what is gonna
be very frustrating for people that I need to pick
a side if that makes sense, like the tribalism that
we all have, and especially in this country like red
or blue or whatever, which side drown or a middle.
That's gonna be the toughest part for I think a
lot of people was like, Oh, this is just gonna

(41:13):
go back to that quote. It was like power corrups
and absolute power corrupts absolutely, and it's we're gonna have
like evidence, and there's gonna be women who would be like, yes,
it does, look at me, it does, and this is
who did it. And they're on both sides and they're
both hanging out, and that's what's gonna suck. That's what's
gonna be messy. But yeah, I have no doubt that
the people who are guilty and have their hands dirty

(41:36):
in this are are Democrats and Republicans and Clinton and
Trump and you know, the whole thing. It's just the
fact that it's being politicized, and the fact that bar
is sending the FBI to do like a little look
around on this island like months after after should have

(41:57):
you know, whoever is in charge when and this investigation
is going on, is going to Bill, you know, And
he's the one who's in charge to who could have
been like he actually needs to be locked the funk down. Yeah,
so a lot of that, a lot of that ship
ends up falling in his lap though, too. Although he
can say like, well, we need investigations. Who said maybe
he didn't need to cellmate? Why are these people overworked?

(42:19):
You can you can get all about investigations in that administration.
Yeah exactly. The guy who doesn't even read the fucking
reports is going to give his, you know, absolute decision
on this whole thing. If I was gonna undermine democracy,
let's say that was like a plan I had. This
would be a good way to do it, right, Oh,

(42:40):
get bring everyone down at the same time, every fucking side,
Yeah exactly. But like what, there ain't no solid ground anymore,
right right, Yeah, here's all your peeps, And now that's
why we're going into an authoritarian police state, and you
know that's there. Yeah, that's a potential direction to go.
If if only, but if you shut then up only

(43:03):
their president commercials between my shows, I'm fine with. Um.
Would be your trade off for authoritarian no commercials, fuck now, man,
mute commercials. And also my wife No no, I would

(43:24):
like my wife works and advertise them. I do my wife,
my style of you. I put pauses in different parts
of my space made act um. I'll do it for free, guys. Yeah,

(43:44):
that's it. That's my trade off for whatever you want. Man,
take my rights. Guess expensive man, the mount of driving,
I do miss it. Yeah, my priorities are all fucked up. Okay,
all right, we're gonna take a quick break. Obvious the
story is gonna keep developing. It ended here right now. Yeah,
that's gonna be it written wrapped up in a bow.

(44:10):
All right, We're gonna be right back. And we're back.
And Miles, I noticed you guys covered how to how
to fight seagulls while I was gone, just how to
stare a seagull? The fun stare a seagull down well

(44:33):
where I was, the city of Ocean City, New Jersey,
was also making news for fighting seagulls in in a
unique way. When you asked about it, You're like, oh, yeah,
you talked and I was like, no, it was from England.
He's like, yeah, but the falconers and stuff, And I'm like,
you know, what the funk are you talking about? My
thing was purely about like staring out of seagull if

(44:56):
they came to your chip back and anyway, like the
seagull wars are upon us is what I'm talking about.
Uh yeah, this is the only time I've ever seen
Ocean City make national news. But they Ocean City was
not Jersey Shore. It's the same, it's a little different.
Oh wow, there's a furious head shaking all around the rooms.

(45:18):
A little different, a little different anyway. But as Gatlinburg
and Pigeon Forge. So people are making a big deal because,
uh they hired a bunch of falconers and like people
who had like trained birds of prey to patrol the
boardwalk in Ocean City to scare off the seagulls. Yeah

(45:41):
it worked nature to fight nature. Uh yeah, using nature
to fight nature. But it's not like they just released
a bunch of falcons. They had had them on like
a dude's arm with a little funny hats on and
ship uh and it worked. Man. I was walking down
the sidewalk and I was like, what's different about this?
I can hear the ocean. That's weird. And then I

(46:02):
was like, oh, yeah, there's no seagulls, Like you can't
just it's not just like Caa somewhere. Yeah. They just
went to a different town on the Jersey shore. There.
They went to a town a smaller falconer budget. I
guess how many falconers did you see? Like I didn't stretch.
I didn't see any like in the wild falcons. I've

(46:28):
seen one in Orange County actually at a hotel, just
like patrolling the hotel pool because to keep the seagulls away,
and like it's it's apparently an accepted way. I just
like though that like they've there's really no technological way
to really do away with seagulls. There is a gun. Okay,
yeah maybe, but you don't want to be shooting off

(46:49):
your pistol by the kids pool. Yeah, but like the
fact that you could just be like yo, get that
guy with the hawk. Yeah, and then the seagulls shook gone.
Although I feel like, what's which the what's your weird cousin?
What's his hobby? Falcon? Falconer? Right? See if that will
help bring his falcons doing? With that? Thing I think
it does is that I don't know if that's a
good Jersey impression, Uh, some kind of more like a

(47:12):
Philly accent, which is pretty close. Pretty Yeah. We'll look
at a lot of vacation in there. He's on vacation,
the couple. I wonder though, if because you have these
birds like they would fly right or they just the
mere presence of them was enough they would let unleash
it so inevitably, right, wouldn't there be some some families

(47:34):
who are having to explain to their children by a
fucking falcon was just just destroying, devouring a seagull right
in front of I don't think they eat them. I
think they just scare them away. It's like a territory,
aren't they car carnivorous birds? Yeah? I mean, Miles, you
and I saw we saw a hawk on Air Street
in the streets here in Los Angeles. We saw a
hawk eating a pigeon, just like ripping it apart, but

(47:55):
it was legit, like alive. It was keeping it down
with its talents and just eating it. Yeah. I love hawks. Uh,
but anyways, that ship works fight nature with nature. Uh
you think it's one of those pigeons. It's like goes
in front of your car, like real slow, you know
when you're gonna slow down, Like that's what he did
to the hawk and the hawks like no, dude, I

(48:17):
mean eat you in the street. So people know. I
think you can just I think you can find videos
hawk eating, seating hawk kill and eat seagull. Well, I
think they're territory. I think birds like because when you
drive long periods, especially through the Midwest, you'll see a
hawk every so just sitting on the line. You just

(48:39):
see them. So it's like I think they're like crows
to where they have like a territory, so they're not
like they may mess one seagull up just so it's enough. Yeah.
That reminds me like I went fishing in the in
the Atlanta and the Gulf part down in Florida one
time in the back channels and their seagulls around because

(49:00):
we were trying to get bait and all this stuff,
and our God was like mad, He's like he's doom
seagulls blah blah, and I wouldn't pay attention. I was
just like half stoned at eight thirty in the morning,
like this is fun. I picked a good job where
I get to go do this. And I turned around
and the god is he had caught a bird on
his line and he was bringing it in and I
just stopped doing what I'm doing. What's he gonna do here?

(49:24):
And he grabs the bird, He reels it in to
the to the top of the rod. He grabs it
and then rips its head off, yes, and then throws
it back in the water. And he was like, they'll
get the message. Let's go somewhere else. I'm technically not
supposed to do stuff like that. And we're like, what
is happening, crocodile dundee ship and you know what, the

(49:45):
birds left us uh alone. Yeah, They're like, Hey, that
dude's the one that ripped Larry's head off, that snatched
it off. Yeah. I like that, he's like, technically not supposed.
I was like legally as the disturbing for others to

(50:06):
have just witnessed and also animal back to Jesus Christ. Yeah,
I once got a pelican on on the hook and
the uh in the gulf because I caught a fish
and then the pelican I was like twelve of them,
was like scared. I was like what do I do?
Like people are gathering around. I was like reeling in

(50:28):
a giant pelican that was and this dude just came
up and like did a couple of times with the
with the fishing rod and yanked it out. Oh good,
I was. I thought maybe we were headed for another
Billy Wayne type. And I didn't do it. I was
just there. No, I know, I'm saying that it was
a similar ending, like that's just how they handled it
on boats. It was like one of those traumatic things

(50:48):
where would have happened, like you don't even react. I
just want I just kept laughing. Was like, okay, okay,
what kind of bird was it? It was a seagull?
A seagull because they were just messing. We're trying to
get a bunch of fish for bait. Yeah, just the
idea though that someone's like let me just bare hand.
It was not the first or last time that made

(51:10):
it was that's his way of doing that. Remember his name,
Like Billy would love for you to come back out
with us. You're like, nah, that was it rob it.
We got a lot of fish that day. We did
like he's a I mean, you know, I come from
East Tennessee, So it wasn't that shocking to me. It
was just more like, oh, okay, well that's how we're
doing it. Swiftness, yeah, just and how clean everything was

(51:35):
like he just know. I was like, oh wow, okay,
we're gonna tip him. We're gonna tip this guy. What
what kind of fish do you go off for? It
was a red snapper, I think, is what we're doing.
And it was cool because the club we're working at
also the guy was also a guy that owned the
club and restaurant. So we took the fish, cleaned it,
and then he took it to so good they dude

(51:57):
to rip this eagle's head off. No, he handed it
to the owner. He had other clients. He was comedy
club too. Know, well that guy is also a guy.
But he was like, I'm I'm sending out with the
best guy in town. We're like he's good. Ripper do
out there. Ripper was real good. All right, Well, let's

(52:22):
get into some pop culture news because it looks like
they are green lighting Chernobyl too. Is that right? Mouth
the newest season. Yeah, well we already saw that Russia
made a response one that's like it was an American
c I a woman or something that the sabotage Chernobyl.
But no, there was a fucking mysterious incident, some kind

(52:44):
of atomic nuclear incident in northern Russia last week. Um.
And you know the Russia is being very part of
northern Russia, like up north like Siberia where they're trying
to claim parts of the Arctic. Now, I mean, is
that where that explosion, because that's what kind of on
their own like here, like you see where Finland is,

(53:07):
it's northern, but still on what's technically Russia. That's weird,
you know what I mean, that's the east, that's a
western Russia. I was thinking more because they're trying to
there's a Cold war going on up there about the
land and stuff when its unfreezes, Like who's gonna get
it right exactly, So that's my first thought. But that's

(53:29):
real close to Europe. Well, so that was the thing.
This incident happens. A lot of people are measuring like
radioactivity or radioactive contamination, not you know, at Chernobyl levels,
but significant to the point where according to the reports
that aren't the official state you know news of Russia,
people were buying a lot of iodine tablets and things

(53:50):
like that just to make sure they're safe. And I
mean you can you can sense that ship Like that
was one of the really cool parts of Chernobyl is
that like they were trying to keep it under wraps
in and around the you know city where the Chernobyl
meltdown happened, but like you know, a hundred miles away,
people were like, oh, all the weird like protons and ships,

(54:11):
like everything just went up and like there's like now
these high levels of this toxin in the air, Like
you can't hide that ship. That's how people around the
world found out about it exactly. And then with this
a lot of people it's nothing to do with the
power facility, but they think it's having to do with
this uh like skyfall missile that Putin was bragging about

(54:33):
a while back. He's like, it's the most it's like undetectable,
it's indefensible, like it flies, it can fly low altitude
and weave and stuff, versus a traditional I CBM that
has like a very predictable curve or path and part
of that is because it's partially powered by a little,
a tiny nuclear reactor. So seven people go wrong, wrong,

(54:55):
seven people died, and they're like, oh no, Like, I
think a lot of analysts who are more interested in
like this sort of arms side of things are kind
of saying like, oh, this may have been like a terrible,
terrible disaster for that arms program. Uh, and they're still
not sure what happened. But again, it's hard to know
what the actual news is from Russia because you're only

(55:17):
seeing like there were videos on Twitter that were claiming
to be victims that were being transported to the hospital,
but the video showed like the vehicle doors were like
sealed with like plastic sheeting, and the people driving the
ambulances were wearing like these white contamination suits. So a
lot of people are being like, Okay, so this might
something major may have occurred based off of that um

(55:40):
and then can we just say, like, as a metaphor,
this is a great example of why you don't lie
to everyone, because when bad stuff happens, no one believes
you what you're trying. You're like, hey, we messed up,
and did you know how did you mess up? Is
the wolf back the wolf and it came with another wolf.
All the sheet is done. Two wolves. Actually, I mean

(56:03):
the the biggest like this is where they used to
test like the biggest bomb ever set off as the
Czar bomb. Uh, it was set off in n one.
It was northern Russia. Also, they were just getting shipped
downe around that time, three thousand times as strong as
Hiroshima and the bombs from that we're actually used in

(56:25):
in war three thousand times they Also there's another thing
that people were pointing at is that there's a bay
in the White Sea which is near where this uh
like explosion happened that's been closed off to shippers or
ships now for a month or it's about to be closed.
They're like, oh, we're gonna have to shut this down
for a month. Mm hmm. So there's a lot of
question marks, but mostly is all by the Russian government

(56:47):
and saying all this, this is all this stuff being released,
Yeah that they're like, unrelated is this? And then someone
tracked a ship that's used for collecting and storing nuclear
waste was heading that way the day are I mean,
that's so like there's enough pieces where like huh, what's
going on? Here there's clearly some kind of measurable radio activity.

(57:08):
They're not giving us many details, but this is a
place where they might have been testing this rocket that
has a many nuclear reactor in it. No, but I
mean it sounds like something terrible it's happened. And my
question always is that, like how much of the truth
do you immediately release and how much do you just
quietly so there isn't a huge pant do you know

(57:29):
what I mean? Like that's such a weird philosophy question.
You're just like how much can a human brain handle
that it doesn't go into chaos? But then it's something.
But it seems like Russia they like to do a
thing where it's like just deny everything to it's so
bad they make a movie they do have like that
is like a state move, right, whereas just like yeah,
until people's eyeballs fall out, nothing drawn and then let's

(57:52):
be like it was Americans d HBO. It is a
strong that is like a state move where they're like
until people un in two cartoon characters, right, nothing, just
keeping my shut well And yeah, that's also the part
of the thing of like so who figured this out,
like just journalists or did this. Did Russia finally come
out and be like, hey, well they did say it

(58:12):
wasn't an earthquake. The state owned energy company said something
that was like, very very vague, that there was something
something went wrong with quote isotopic sources of fuel on
a liquid propulsion unit. Mm hmm. So something sounds like
your reactor powered missile. Something fucking went wrong. Cool, it's fun.

(58:35):
Time to be alive. Well, and then you add to
that though, too, that the Trump administration pulled out of
that fucking nuclear intermediate range nuclear treaty with Russia. So
now it's like all the brakes are completely off on
a new arms race. And this is what happens. I mean,
And presumably they pulled up because Putin told him too

(58:56):
well yeah, and also they had been violating it. But
also that's the thing where they're like, well, then why
you have no recourse if there's not even an agreement
in place? Right? But hey, Russia, Russia man, crazy motherfucker's
There is just some real quick, actual pop culture news.

(59:16):
There's a movie that was supposed to come out. I'd
actually seen some posters for it around Los Angeles called
The Hunt. That was basically some blue State elites capture
like a dozen deplorables and then set them loose and
hunt them. It is from Blumhouse that made The Purge,

(59:39):
so it's basically a even more politicized the Purge. Um, well,
it's like light murder porn. Yeah, that's what that is, right. Well,
I mean, so the protagonists are the people being hunted obviously,
so you know you have because protagonists you don't want.
But it's there was this sort of game theory thing

(01:00:02):
going on where the studio decided not to release it
now because there was all sorts of outrage coming from
the right and from Fox News, and then you know,
Fox and Friends talked about it and you know, didn't
disclose the fact that it was going to have the
Red State people are going to be the protagonist, and
was just like they're making movies about murdering us and people, Uh,

(01:00:28):
people got outraged, and by people, I mean the President
and he started tweeting about I think he had already
forgotten the name of the movie. So he's just like,
there's movies that are bad. Paul Blart um Lou Dab said, Uh,
a sick twisted new movie. This is fiction, but it
sounds like reality, doesn't it Christ Because you know how

(01:00:55):
based off that short story, right, I mean, there's dangerous games.
There's so many stories based off that Ice Tea Yeah
movie and that John Claude Van Damme movie. Right. But
it's funny because even in that it's the people who
are the hunted are the ones you side with. So
even in this one, if you're a publican, you'd be like, yeah,
I'm siding with the deplorables and the thing, but I

(01:01:17):
don't like that the labels are being used and like
maybe maybe it's too close to the truth of how
actual like powerful people operate that because everybody's like playing
these two steps ahead chest now. So all these left
wing publications are saying they shouldn't release it because they
don't want to give them anything any ballasts to argue with.
And then the right wing like Brepe Bart is saying

(01:01:40):
they should release it because they want the you know,
they want the AMMO. But both sides are like, this
is the best thing could happen to either of us,
because we just need some ship to yell about for
a couple of days. Because all they both sides are
doing the censoring art that they haven't seen, which is
insane to me. And like you said, it's the same

(01:02:00):
movie that's been made nine times where he's like rich
people hunting poor people. Yes, and guess what that one
poor that's smart. He's gonna win and you're rooting for
the poor. It's good and like, I don't care what
color or a woman. Now I'm sorry I did it,
but that's from the past. It's always been a dude,
but now it could be the lady and she's gonna win.
But it's also like they haven't seen the fucking movie, right,

(01:02:24):
so shut up. Well, the studio has decided not to
release it for now. Yeah for now. That's the smart
it's the studio doesn't give a ship. The studio is
like how much. Yeah, well they're like, okay, if we
sit on it, we'll get enough buzz and then we
release it. People be remember that movie that was too
Hot for the right? Yeah, well that it's just wrestling

(01:02:45):
move too. It's like they use like deplorable versus like elite,
and they're like, well, this is these are the terminology,
this is the heel and this is which is funny
because you thought in their minds they'd be like hell yeah,
man like these fucking deplorable people, like just fucking yes,
but you know they're there. Quote was really interesting, he
said from Universal. Why they decided to pull up well,

(01:03:06):
Universal had already paused the marketing campaign for The Hunt.
After thoughtful consideration, the studio has decided to cancel our
plans to release the film. We stand by our filmmakers
and will continue to distribute films in partnership with bold
and visionary creators like those associated with this satirical social thriller,
but we understand that now is not the right time
to release the film. Signed, Cash rules everything around me. Cream.

(01:03:28):
I mean that the way I saw it put was
that it's a movie about a politically motivated shooting. And
because yeah, I don't want I mean even that too.
But you know, if you're waiting for that not to
happen in America or history or history or the history
of time, or make a book about it or TV show,

(01:03:50):
it's silly. It's art, but people like to argue about art,
and it's a I just I think that word to
laurable also is visceral for just human beings. So when
you say that, it evokes emotion, like if you say
deplorable democrats. It makes them mad. If you call the deplorables,

(01:04:13):
it makes them mad and fires them up and in
the opposite way. So it's this. I think that word
in itself is powerful. Yeah, and marketers know that well.
Speaking of powerful, where it's Billy Wayne. It's been a
pleasure of having you. Where where can people find you?
Follow you at Billy Wayne Davis on Twitter and Instagram.

(01:04:36):
I have Facebook too. I don't go there a lot,
but I have to now because Facebook owns Instagram and
to sell things you have to have a Facebook thing
Zuckerberg And then I'm putting together a tour um in
the fall and wind Tour. I'll be posting them about
that in the next month or so and you can

(01:04:56):
find all those details on b w D tour dot
com and Squidbillies, which I got to help. Uh. This
new season came out last night August eleven, So the
new season will be coming out in the next couple
of weeks. I enjoy that, and I have my March
will be up on Amazon soon. Wow. Yeah, they're doing

(01:05:16):
a merch thing. What's your squid Billy character? Are you
just called squid Billy? Know that Squidbillies is the show. No,
I know, but I mean like, no, my character is
the I'm the Walmart manager, not Walmart, Balmart. Nothing to
do with the killer mom and nothing. Is there a

(01:05:37):
tweet you've been enjoying? Yes, Tim Dillon, who was a
very very funny comedian, He tweeted Epstein should get a
state funeral. Jesus Miles, where can people find you? And
what is a tweet? You've been into Twitter, Instagram at
Miles of gray. Also, you know you might catch Jack

(01:05:59):
Anna and I roaming Disney the Disney streets at some
point this weekend. Disney disney World never been disney World,
never been a disney World or none of that ship.
It's going down for real. It's fun. I when I
was fist you did. Yeah, I have no desire to
go back. I see, and I need that to say.
I went when I was in my thirties, and I

(01:06:21):
want to go to the Blizzard Beach. There's a water
park there. I hear there's two water parks. Yes, when
I went, and I'm sure this isn't the case anymore,
but when I went as a kid, that had a
huge wave pool and it was either alternately huge waves
just rolling in and just wiping people out, or it
would just be like choppy, stormy sea and like I

(01:06:43):
almost drowned. It was just like thet I've ever swimming, Like,
I feel like they just had people fucking around and
there was there was that video of that person at
a wave pool I think in Asia who cranked the
ship up to literally unami and the ship went outside
the wave pool. It was it looked people are getting

(01:07:05):
fucking barreled. Look I like it. Back to this a
tweet I liked first. One is from e Cogswell Emily
is her display name. It says selling news is a
fun reminder that some men will literally pay money for
the view that every guy you've ever dated has ignored
because he was playing video games. That's cutting. And also
one more from Casey a cup In Bender at KC

(01:07:30):
cupp In Bender. Uh, why is everyone so afraid of
their thirties? We get to sit down during concerts? Man?
I remember like when I the last time I went
to Coachella, me like five years ago, I sat like
in one of the tents where other people were like
standing like what's wrong. I'm like, I'm fucking I'm not
feeling this right now. That's yeah, okay, down also is molly. Yeah.

(01:07:56):
They had a dude who just took a jet pack
across the English Channel and like his issue with it
was that it was like too much standing. Is like
legs got tired because it was like a platform. It
is like a hoverboard essentially. Well, how long did it
take him to get across that he had to stop
to refuel half way across, So that's a bummer, A

(01:08:17):
little break hoverboards you'd be like, oh, yeah, but you
aren't gonna stand. Well, that's also very human of him
to be like I had to stand the whole jet
pack across the English Channel and yeah, but my feed
like I think I locked my knees up too much?
Uh tweet I enjoyed Logan Trent at the Logan Trent

(01:08:38):
tweeted a Transformers movie by David Cronenberg where the Transformers
are perverts that disguis themselves as vehicles because they get
off on people riding inside them. Isn't that already? What
kind of transformers? Yeah? Yeah, I mean do they ever
make sounds when they get inside of? What? Optimist? Um?

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