July 1, 2019 • 64 mins
In episode 424, Jack and special guest host Caitlin Durante are joined by Sleepwalkers podcast co-host Karah Preiss to discuss Twitter playing right into Trump's hands, Democratic polls after the debates, Boston approving a straight white parade, New York declaring a climate emergency, and more!
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1. Twitter will now hide — but not remove — harmful tweets from public figures
2. Trump Tweets That Violate Twitter’s Rules Will Now Get A Warning Label
3. Trump says Google, Facebook should be sued over bias allegations
4. Who Won The First Democratic Debate?
5. Boston Approves Application For ‘Straight Pride Parade’
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season eighty nine, episode
one of Joe Daly's eight Geist, a production of I
Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take a
deep dive into American share consciousness and safely off the top,
fuck Coke Industries and funck Fox News. It's Monday, July first,
two thousand nineteen. My name's Jack O'Brien, A K, Beto,
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O dork a K Julian podcastro A K, Bill de Blasio,
Brian a k A Corny booker, work, corny hooker, or
horny cooker, depend of how close speet. That's courtesy of
Christi Amagucci Man and I'm thrilled to beat. Joining by
today's acting co host Caitlyn Durante. Hello, A K A.
(00:46):
Since I'm sitting in for Miles Gray, my name anagrams
to Nile Cray plus some other letters that that don't fit. Also,
so last week, when I was at the guest uh,
you might remember that my AK was Lauren C Titanic.
(01:07):
So this week, um, my name also anagrams to ruined Atlantic,
which when the Titanic sunk into the Atlantic Ocean, it
kind of ruined it the Atlantic for all of us. Yeah,
I refused to swim in it anymore. Same and then
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finally also anagrams to nine tit dracula. Does it really? Yes?
It does? Good God, that is fine. That's the best
one yet. I don't know how they keep getting better.
But nine tit dracula is so it's a it's a
cow right with nine Oh yeah, yeah, no, I got that.
(01:53):
And I think it's always coming, even them. Uh you
would think and usually yes, But I've discovered re cently
that opossums have thirteen nipples. They form a circle and
then there's one in the middle because the rule is
that it's supposed to be two x the number of
like babies that you generally give birth. Is that the
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So that's why we have to and you know dogs
have a whole shipload because they usually give birth to
the whole litter. Whole litter. Uh. Well, we are thrilled
to be joined in our third seat by a very
special guest from the Sleepwalkers podcast, Cara Price. Hi, everybody, Hi,
(02:38):
welcome nine tied Dracula. Blood must spew out of the
of the Oh yeah, I didn't even think of that.
That actually, would you milk that nine titted Dracula. Yeah,
you're gonna get some. I wonder if there's like one
tip for every blood type, so there's like a positive
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oh you know, the universal donor the universal recipient like
a d picky about their blood types, like which ones
they like, because mosquitoes are and my poor wife and
son are whatever their favorite type is and they just
attack the ship out of them, and me and my
other son just like get left alone. It's really terrible.
(03:23):
It's mean, mosquitoes are so discriminatory. Yeah, it's really well.
I know, in like True Blood when they were like
selling like the synthetic blood blood at bars, they had
like oh negative and like different types of blood. So
I think in that show, at least the cannon was
that different vampires preferred different blood types. Yeah, that would
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be a great solution. If somebody could breed a nine
tips Dracula, like blood spewing cow, then you know, no
more need to attack the humans. I think the mass
of animal rights issue, Yeah, that's true, would not like this.
(04:05):
Peter probably would would advocate for humans to be turned
to vampires instead of the milking of a cow clearly
built specifically for blood milk. If it's it's an undead cow.
Everybody's just digging because this is the whole episode, by
the way, So I hope you're ready. Uh yeah, no,
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it's great antagram, great questions all around. Kara, Let's just
say right off top, in case anyone's trying to google
your name, how are we spelling care pres r E
I S as in sam ss and Sam. Yeah. Yeah,
Kara is k A r A Yeah, that's right. Yeah.
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So I don't know what you'll find if you google,
but I do have a podcast called Sleepwalker, Yeah, which
you do. Alls. Um, Well, we're gonna get to know
you a little bit better in a moment. But for
we're going to tell our listeners a couple of things
we're talking about today. The first story we have here
that is eight poll about, you know, the favorability and
(05:12):
percentages for like whether people would vote for candidates before
and after the first night. So it shows, you know,
how much the debates affected people's favorability and whether someone's
going to vote for them. And we can talk about
we can talk about how the first night changed things
as well, and how the second night changed things in
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our hearts. We're gonna talk about Twitter's new rules, which
may or may not play directly into the president's hands.
We're gonna talk about the straight Pride Parade, aren't we, Caitlin, Um,
We're gonna talk about uh. New York City has declared
a climate emergency. But first, Kara, we like to ask
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our guests, what is something from your search history that
is revealing about who you are? So El Torrero de
la Tora, the Jewish gay mad No, what I had
googled was gay Jewish matador. That was something that I
looked up in my recent search history. And this he
you know, this is a guy who was the first
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of his kind in many ways. I think he was
a gay Jewish matador who lived in Spain but was
based in Brooklyn. No, I was based in Brooklyn, and
Um died in Brooklyn. Pennyless now died in Greenwich Village, penniless. Um.
But my sister had sent me a screenshot of him,
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and he is my grandfather's twin. I mean, really looked
like my grandfather, who was a straight Jew from Brooklyn exactly. Um.
So I googled it and I've been obsessed with the story.
It's The New York Times reported on it because you know,
Pride so they're like scouring the net for the gays
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they can find, and he's one of them. Although I
think being a gay Jewish Man sort of lends itself
also to being a matador in terms of he's very lean.
He loved fashion. And there's a great quote from the
article that they're quoting him and he says, people would say,
but you're Jewish, Mr mark Wood said, and he'd say, yes,
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but the bulls are Catholic. Pretty good. Yeah, that has
to do with me there there it is. Now. I
think we know everything we need to know. What is
something you think is overrated? Uh? Plant based milk like
almond milk and stuff. Yeah, coconut milk. It's disgusting. Should
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I said, maybe I could say something more about you
know AI, but I just think plant based milk is disgusting. Uh,
you have any particular well chased like cardboard, all of it.
Being in l I live in New York and being
in l A is particularly agregious for the half and
half users of America. I went to a cafe the
(08:07):
other day here and they had no milk. They only
had plant milk. There's a lot of utter based content.
I mean, oh yeah, black they're up exactly. Plant based
milk is disgusting because we all want Dracula tit milk
I want all day, So you are not lactose intolerant.
(08:30):
It doesn't sound any I wouldn't know, but it's it's
I mean, I am probably makes me ill because I'm Jewish,
as you know from my search history, and it does
make me ill, but not as much as oat milk.
I was because people are like, well, have you tried
oat milk? Milk? Coconut is the coconut coconut, oat almond.
(08:52):
I love almond milk. Macadamia nut is a new one. Yeah,
but milk is like milk is from an other that
this is almond, this is almond water. That's what milk,
almond milk is. So I think it's overrated and it's
just I mean, there was like totally was back ordered. Yeah,
(09:13):
people went wild in Los Angeles for oat milk, especially
the oat milk craze of was a violent period in
l A's history. I would imagine, yeah, I would imagine.
I think it's also like if you I was talking
to this guy yesterday who's a scientist, and he said,
just put quantum or neuro on anything and you can
(09:35):
sell it. I think if quantum milk, yeah, well that
but if you quantum oat milk, I was like, I
need to go home right now and create a product
that's a quantum plant based milk because it gets it
clears your neurotoxins. It's tiny and it just clears you
out right exactly neurotoxins. That's another one. Yeah, I'm gonna
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a lot. I mean, I'll get backlash for everyone likes it.
I just I get half and have it makes my
friends sick that I use half and half. It's disgusting.
But it makes coffee tastes like a milkshake. Yeah. I
wouldn't put almond milk or any of those like nut
milks or anything in coffee that is gross. Oh no, no, no,
I put it on cereal. I might do that just
(10:17):
because it would just be it would be watered down
by the sugar of cereal, which I can get on
board with. Well, yeah, I find real milk now taste
disgusting because I've made I made the transition to almond.
But I only ever like, I still eat like milk
ice cream right, Like vegan ice cream is like, just
don't eat it. Yeah. I don't eat ice creams, vegan cheese,
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no thing diet. Literally, like someone gave me a vegan
cheese like slice. Sorry, I was just thinking about it,
That's why I was speakingless. It was that it was disgusting. Disgusting. Um,
I wass one skim milk. I mostly drink plant based
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milks these days, but I still like, I think Cereal
is twenty times better with whole milk. Ye. There's just
something about that thick, rich juice that every time. What
is something you think is under rage? Oh? The USPS.
I there's a sorry sorry, sorry, sorry I am. I
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think it's probably our strongest heritage brand in the US.
And I think that it is. When I think about
what happens every day for a letter to get somewhere else,
it brings me into tears. I don't know, maybe, I mean,
I think a lot of other people respect the USPS,
although it's dwindle or actually Trump would not call the
USPS the failing USPS. For some reason, he likes it.
(11:50):
I think it's like an establishment thing. Um. But yeah,
the the United States Postal Service stamps. I mean, I'm
a philatelist. There's just a everything about it to me,
is so attractive. Stamp collect yes, stamp enthusiasts, not someone
who flates. No, that's a flation. Well there's not. There's
a facialist, which is someone who treats the top of
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a stamp with their finger. But yeah, I have a
lineage of filatelists. What's your favorite stamp? You have it?
But right now, the Ellsworth Kelly stamp is very cool.
It's the artist that you know. They do like these
capsule collections of stamps, and he's one of them. I
had one Sally Rye and may she rest? Um I
(12:39):
think she's dead and um okay. So he is a
very simple abstract artist. His art is a wow. It
is really cool. It's cool, it's made for stamps. I
also buy. I think stamps are great and I loved
you know. Recently I signed a lease and they were like,
do you want to you the you know, the easy
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pay thing, and I said, no, I want to mail
the check because you want to and I don't know
what it is. I'm a hope for shipping and handling.
I've always been one. I love going to the I
love to mail. I'm in the USPS like at least
four so you like the process of going to the
post office, at which I have to tell you, as
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a podcaster, that is sacrilege because podcasting was built on
the assumption that going to the post office is literal
hell on Earth because of stamps dot Com, Like, oh,
stamp stright, go back and listen to early podcasts that
have the baked in ads. They're gonna be like, wait,
why was Why did everybody hate the post office so
(13:46):
much back then? Because that was just the number one
built in presumption of of all podcasts was that, well,
we all fucking hate the post office? Am I right? Guys? Um,
I have a stamps dot com account, do yeah all
the time? Media ex Yeah, but I listened to podcasts
in line of the post office. That's the whole thing.
(14:08):
I mean, you're not supposed to be allowed to do that,
but I'm sorry. If those were unrelated to my themes, No,
it's great. We're learning a lot about that. Those are
my things. And then finally, what is a myth? What's
something people think is true you know to be false?
Well I don't. I don't know so much of this
is a myth. But there's this sense when you nine
(14:28):
of ten people if you ask them what AI is.
It's the same people where you ask what gluten is,
they're like bread. AI is the same way where I
think most people think of robots or like artificially intelligent
robots or people who are going to take your job,
or robots are gonna take your jobs, whereas AI is
really like what allows you to order a Starbucks coffee
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when you're in your car we're still on the train. Like,
I mean, that's not the best example, but like AI
is basically part of and parcel everything that we now
do on our part sold something that yes, you're building.
I mean, it is my dream to do a short
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form web series where I visit all of the post
offices of America. Would that be possible? Um no, not
when when they when? When? Development people are like, what's
the audience? That would be a hard question, old people
who will be dead by the end of this meeting.
(15:31):
That's right, But AI is sort of finding ways to
mimic like neuron connections, right, and yeah, well it's also
I mean you're talking about elections. I mean it's it's
really an amazing way to make predictions about things using data.
So the human mind can only compute so much um
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and take into account so much data, whereas algorithms can
look at vast amounts of adda, whether it be pictures, um,
well code, I guess, uh, and and then make predictions
based on those things. Right, we're better at catching like tumors,
and we're better at catching all things just from like
(16:13):
loading scans into or into brain. I think, yeah, that's right,
that's right. Yeah, But like you know, they the raptors
used AI to help better there in drastic market, the
open doors, the Drake raptors, Drake raptors, they should just
(16:35):
change their I'm so sorry, Toronto, how did they use
So basically, you can use AI to make better again,
use for predictions, sake, to look at your shot history
and sort of better understand maybe where you should be
(16:56):
placing yourself on the court, right, where you should be
more shop. That's right. So there's machine learning. I mean,
this is machine learning. Machine learning is basically now being
harnessed in like every possible field you can imagine, And
that's artificial intelligence. It's using computers to to make decisions. Now,
sleepwalkers would imply that title would imply that we're unaware
(17:23):
of something. I would say, yeah, and what are we
unaware of? Well, I think people don't think about their
data enough generally. I think maybe in the past two
years maybe I think also post election tampering people started,
and the Cambridge An scandal, people started thinking more about,
(17:44):
oh my god, like, Facebook has a lot of information
about me, and it's being given to other companies that
I don't want to have my information. So on the
most basic level, not thinking about that enough is sleepwalking.
You know the idea now that certain states I mean
now there's two only, but certain states are you know,
(18:06):
making uh the government use official recognition technology illegal? Is
a good? Is a step in the right direction, I
personally think, but I don't think people have an appreciation
for Okay, if like is the d m V using
my face too make predictions about other things legislatively. So
(18:30):
Oz took the phrase my co host took the phrase
from a British history book. But um, but but I think,
you know, for him also, when he was thinking of
the show, which he asked me to do a little
later on, but when he was thinking of this show,
you know, he he started to think about, well, what
(18:52):
are all the things that I don't know that aren't
going to be happening in the future, but actually are
happening right now. And how can I talk to the
people who have built these rules who a lot of
them are like sounding the alarm. You know, people who
worked at Facebook who were like, yeah, well they trained
people created the light button, were like trained on the
same tools that they used to build casinos, right, yeah, exactly.
(19:14):
I mean it's you're you're losing your free will because
you know, they are all these ways that companies are
manipulating your mind to make the decisions they want you
to make. And so you were like reframing it as
from a thing about like, well, I don't care what
they know about me because I have nothing to nothing
(19:38):
to hide and I'm a boy scout to know, but
you are not in control of your own life because
they know so much about you. And then they're you know,
manipulating your life in the background. Uh, and some people don't.
I mean, I think a lot of people don't care. Like,
you know, I spoke to these parents on the podcast
who were like, well, if Amazon knows when I need diapers,
(19:59):
that makes my life a lot easier. But it's also
are you okay with the fact that Amazon also sells
like consumer facial recognition technology to government contracts. Yeah, like
my face is very hot, so many people to see it.
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Don't say hot because they're they're also tracing biometrics. Honey,
your actual body temperature? What well, I mean I am
a vampire and my body is actually very cool. Well,
if a hot face actually implies that you are nervous
about something and might be carrying a bomb, So yeah,
(20:42):
that's what they You never heard the term hot faces? Yeah, okay,
what I mean, it's not that cool. Good to know,
but yes, all that by like anything that can be
scanned and then can paired to other things that have
been scanned, is using AI to detect or like white
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list or blacklist someone. So now they're doing it with
a laser called jetson, where they're actually using your heartbeat
as a biometric monitor, so like, oh, that's Jack's heart.
Like if they can't see your face because you're compromised,
they're starting to be able to read people in other ways. There,
(21:29):
when I say there, it's like DARPA is developing these things. God,
so if you have like an increased heartbeat, that will
be telling of oh that person, Well, just how your
heartbeats is a very particular signature that only you have. Yeah,
I didn't realize. Apparently it's exactly like your heartbeat is
like a fingerprint. Oh really, I didn't yet that, Yeah, exactly.
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Mind is like a hip hop. Yeah, it's like it's
like in an acapella group. So those are all ai
E things. Like when you go on jet Blue and
you're using your face to board a plane, you should
just ask people who work at jet Blue where's that
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data going? Is it a hard delete? Are you storing
that data and then selling it to the US government?
Are you like And I think the answer a lot
of times no. And there are a lot of people
who are working in this sort of ethical surveillance, if
such a thing as possible, who are really like creating
tools to also sound the alarm. Same with people who
are developing technology to detect deep fakes. They have to
(22:39):
create deep fakes in order to detect them. So you know,
it's the kind of thing to just keep your eyes
open too, don't walk into it. I'm listening to But
if your eyes are open, then they're going to use
retinal skirt. Well. They've now, of course a kickstarter respectacles,
(23:01):
I think they're called something like that. I want to say,
I'm I'll be saying it's something spect it's something ecticals,
and it turns your eye into that like feeds it
back right into the camera. Well fund, I was thinking
well funded kickstarters and then you're like malaria, Like, what
in the funk are you creating better than saving people's
(23:25):
lives from malaria? Crazy? Whatever? Yeah, we also have a
search for extraterrestrial yeah. Intelligence. Also, don't keep your eyes
open and just keep your ears open listen to podcast
they Yeah, that's right. Audio is very safe. Walk around
with your eyes closed and podcasts in your ears and
(23:47):
you will be safe. Um, no danger there. So basically,
be a blind hipster for the rest of your life.
There you alright, we're gonna take a quick break. We'll
be right back, and we're back and uh, kind of
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staying on a similar subject to uh, you know, ways
that Silicon Valley is controlling us, So Twitter announced that
they will start blocking the tweets of famous celebrities and politicians. Basically,
they will start demanding that politicians follow their terms of service,
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which I assumed that they I knew they didn't do
this because of things that the President tweets and gets
away with. But I assumed they that was like an
unspoken thing, and in this case, they're just like, no, no,
we we have a total double standard for influential people,
(24:56):
and we let them do whatever they want up to
this point. But now we're going to start, you know,
paying a little bit more attention to them, which is
pretty wild. M Yeah, how does the celebrity, you know,
break the terms? And so some of the examples that
people were pointing to are when the President used his
(25:19):
Twitter account to threaten nuclear war with North Korea, share
a video depicting violence against CNN, where like a wrestler
beat the ship out of a another wrestler who had
CNN photoshopped over their head. Very subtle, motherfucker. He's funny
a lot of the time. It's just terrorists, it's terror Yeah,
(25:42):
he's very entertaining, which I think is a big part
of what got us that he like hacked the entertainment
industrial complex. But what makes him different entertaining? Yeah, yeah,
actually she's pretty or when he retweets misinformation about Muslims.
Twitter spokesperson said the change was not inspired by any
(26:05):
specific world leader. Okay. People also pointed to Uh. Brazil's
far right, homophobic president Balsonnaro tweeted, like, during Carnivall, like
Carnival celebrations started to turn against him a little bit.
People were like Ballsonnaro. Uh. And he then tweeted a
(26:29):
video of somebody giving someone else a golden shower during
Carnival and people celebrating that, and he was like, I mean,
you see what these sickos are doing right at the
p P party And it's like you pulled that pretty
quickly on the file. Huh. Yeah, So that's another example
(26:51):
of this sort of thing that Twitter would Uh. So
they're holding people more accountable despite their influence. They are,
but it's they're acknowledged. So they're basically overtly setting up
a sort of tear system where users are officially allowed
to break the rules and instead of getting removed from
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the platforms, like they have this thing where it just
like grays out the content and you have to basically
asked to see it and then right exactly and they
will not spread those tweets they want like feature them
and even if they are like viral tweets, you won't
(27:33):
see them in your moments feed. But our writer jam
McNab was kind of pointing out that this system could
very easily play right into Trump's tiny hands because by
playing the victim like that's his go to move, is
acting like he's being victimized. I mean, it's all fascists
(27:55):
go to move. But you know, he recently said on
Fox News that Google and Facebook should be sued over
their bias towards conservatives, and uh, the subreddit are that
Donald was quarantined recently after you know, members were inciting
violence against cops and basically threatening to murder police officers.
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The subreddit people finally got shut down. By the way,
do you guys know that story about the Oregon politicians.
I don't think so. The Democratic Congress in Oregon was
trying to pass a climate bill and the Republicans left
the state to like go hide out to avoid having
(28:42):
to vote on it. Because that is apparently like their
version of a filibuster, which is a thing that has
happened before, and in fact, the Democrats in Texas did
that I think in the nineties, But this time the
Republicans are hanging out with three per centers, which is
like this heavily armed militia and they're basically saying the police,
if you bring the police to us, we will kill them.
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And then people on Are the Donald were like basically
talking about like starting a war in Oregon, which I
should have known ship, like this was going to happen
in Oregon. When Robert Evans, the host of Behind the Bastards,
was like, I'm he moved to Oregon from southern California
because he was like, Yeah, that's where a bunch of
(29:25):
really crazy ship is going to be and I need
to be there. He's the one who told who we
were on his show, and he told me about the
three percenters. Yeah. He also told me that it was
literally illegal. There were no black people all out in Oregon,
like it was one of the states in the Yeah,
until like the nineteen twenties or something like that. Some
some like too soon ago. Yes. So as a result
(29:48):
of a bunch of death threats being posted on Our
the Donald by Donald Trump supporters, they quarantined that, which
means you can still get to it, but you have
to like go through a couple of paywalls, and you
can't find it on or not pay walls, but like
blocks where you have to be like are you sure,
Are you sure? And so I don't know. It just
seems like what's going to be more popular than Trump
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tweeting something that does get flagged by Twitter's new rule
and then Trump like freaking out about that, like that
becomes a news cycle, you know. And I mean people
are also pointing out that Twitter itself is not like
his Twitter feed is not the thing that actually gets
his message out. It's that he tweets, tweets out messages
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that then get covered by the news, by TV news,
by all manner of news. So it's just this wouldn't
really affect that. It would just be a way for
him to act like he's getting victimized while still getting
the same message out and on Fox News and when
it's outrageous enough in the rest of the mainstream media.
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So yeah, just a something to keep an eye on, guys.
Uh let's check in with eight uh. So pre debate,
Joe Biden was forty one percent. After the first debate,
he went down to thirty five percent. After the second debate,
(31:17):
he went down to thirty one percent. Well that's a
huge drop. Yeah, so he fell off ten percent before
the first debate. Elizabeth Warren was twelve percent. After the
first debate she was eighteen percent, and then after the
second debate, for some reason, she got hurt really bad.
By the second debate, she went back down to fourteen percent.
I'm assuming because Kamala Harris, let's look at what rocked
(31:40):
it till the break dawn. So she went before the
first debate was at eight percent. After the first debate
was six point three percent, So she lost a percentage point,
presumably to Elizabeth Warren, because Elizabeth Warren had a big
jump after the first debate. After this last debate she
is at sixteen seventeen percent, so she jumped up over
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ten percentage points, so she's doing good. Uh. People went
from six point seven before the debates to four point
eight after them. Corey Booker went from three percent before
the first debate to four percent after the first debate,
back down to three percent, and Beto Or just continues
(32:26):
to hemorrhage support. Uh, from three point six percent down
to two point two. But I mean, that might not
seem like that significant of a change, but um, you know,
when that's all you've got is two percent, that's probably
seems like a lot. So by now this is probably
in the news stream and been done and dusted and
(32:48):
digested by everybody, but it's still you know, we we
assumed after Biden's performance that he was going to be hurt.
People made a huge deal of the Kamala Harris thing,
and I think she did a really good job of
driving home some of the racial issues that he was
already having. But I think the thing that was new
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was how kind of unsteady on his feet. He seemed
like he he just didn't seem very nimble like mentally.
And I think the thing that stuck with me the
most was when they asked, okay, first day in the
White House, what is your number one priority going to be?
And everybody was like, you know, climate change, this, that,
and he said beat Donald Trump, which is so you've
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already he means that he wants to beat him up, right,
some tweet making that point. Um, But yeah, it seems
like a big portion of his support went to Elizabeth Warren,
Kamala Harris, some went to Bernie Sanders. What did Sanders do?
Let's see, he went to UM before the first debate,
(34:00):
he was at fourteen point four. After the first debate,
six rose up to sixteen point four, and then after
the second debate rose again about one percent to seventeen
point three. Are we looking at a Lizzie Lizzie Bernie
a ticket ticket? Yeah? I could see that. Um, it
seems like a lot of her support went to Kamala
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Harris and uh and Bernie Sanders, so it seems like
similar sort of appeal. I'd like a Warren Harris ticket. Yes,
give me that please? Yeah? Who's who? You know? What?
That good question? Let me think on it. Do you
need me to What do you mean? Who's like? Which
(34:47):
one would be? Which one to me? Which one is? Sorry,
which Elizabeth Warren? And which one is Kamala Harris? Just
imagine Elizabeth Warren with Kamala Harris's name. That's like what
if combine the two together into a hybrid person and
then add some AI in there. That's right, Well, a
(35:10):
I could predict whose name This is why machine learning school.
You could predict whose name would be the likeliest to
win a presidential election based on certain Well, you'd have
to set the rules, so either you could set it
based on consonants and vowels. You could set it on
like syllables. For some reason, I think be having a
(35:34):
bee in a middle name or anything, just a but
that is Bill Biden, Bernie, Bob Dole, the sexiest politician,
Corey Booker, beat Oh, it seems like these are amazing. Yeah, Brian, Yeah,
(35:57):
that's right, or in yeah, Beth, we call her, yeah Beth. Okay,
So Kamala needs a B in her name? Was Mamala
b Harris? You know what it might actually been Harris. No,
it's not alright, guys, let's real quick. D D shit
(36:20):
D is a terrible letter. I think the debate sort
of made all of this more interesting and possible to
pay attention to. It just seemed like we had the
same opinions about everybody for a long time, and at
least things are moving a little bit. There's a little motion. Yeah, yeah,
people are paying attention. Yeah. It's funny that Bernie is
(36:43):
just you know, fourteen to sixteen to seventeen. It's like
he he changed less between the debates that he actually
participated in then the debate that he didn't participate in,
because and that makes sense to me, because there's nothing
you can learn from a Bernie Sanders speech at this
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point if you've been paying attention at all for the
past six years and I mean part of me, like
I I like that because there's something authentic about that
that like, this is what I believe. It's not changing
no matter how you frame it. This is what I believe.
But there there was a point during the debate where
(37:24):
they asked him a question specifically about race, and he
was like, we gotta change, we gotta go after the corporations.
And it's just like is because I'm struggling with like
who I support and uh, if he's the president of
the United States, it's a complicated job, I guess, So
(37:45):
like it's authentic to be that ideologically like centered and
you know, have that same answer and that lens that
you view everything through. But if there is a racial crisis,
which they is an ongoing one in the country with
you know, cops shooting people of color, or if there
(38:05):
is a national security crisis, like does he's just like,
we have to go after the corporation. Like that's not
quite the response to that particular problem, Bernie, So we
will see what I think. So that that his uh,
like numbers changed more in the debate that he didn't participation.
(38:29):
That means that, like I guess, people had like we're
favoring two candidates and then they were like, oh, well,
I didn't like how that person did in that first debate.
I guess I'll switch to Bernie, Like, well I was
on Bernie, Yeah, now I'm back something like that. Yeah, yeah,
that is funny though. All right, we're gonna take a
(38:51):
quick break and then we'll be back to talk about
the Straight Pride Pride. I don't think we forgot about
you straight guys. Yeah, and we're back and the Straight
Pride Parade is back in the news. I had kind
(39:15):
of assumed I didn't want to talk too much about
this because it seemed like it could be one of
those things like the stunt the parade. The Grand Marshal
of the parade is Milounopolis, who is a uh you know,
he's a troll icon everyone's favorite. Yeah, but he's he's
(39:37):
a troll who like will announce an appearance. And he
did that thing where he was like going to go
to Stanford and take over campus and people are like,
please don't or maybe it was Berkeley, and then uh,
you know, he there was a bunch of controversy and
then he never ended up doing it because he was
just there too. Rack up some mentions. Um, but it
(39:59):
does seem like this is going forward. Yes, it does,
because the City of Boston officials they're approved the application
that would allow a group to hold the straight Pride parade. Um.
The group is called super Happy Fun America. So that
(40:20):
they clearly are disproving the idea that straight people don't
have a way with language, because those are very I
mean that that they know dozens of words in the
English language, super Happy Fun America. I sure, okay? Or
is that what they think it gay people represented like
(40:42):
super Happy Fun there it's too yeah, or this is
their attempt to compete with well, because I would say
if you did straight pride, it would be like flannel khaki,
the opposite of super happy and right right, it would
be extremely boring, medioc or out KACKI yeah, events No
(41:04):
people are terrible, mediocre might be beyond their right, right,
right right. So this is an event that is meant to,
of course, counter the City of Boston's and many other
cities across the country l g B t Q plus
Pride parade that happens every year. Why why why do
(41:25):
black people get a e t entertainment channel? Why do yeah,
you name it yes. So. The president of this group,
Super Happy Fun America, John Hugo, submitted the application and
this lated date for the parade is August thirty one,
(41:45):
which is straight pride months. August. Yes, I would say
the worst months of the year in America. Yeah, easily,
Like the worst movies come out in August. I feel
like it's just every everyone's like they're no good holidays
in August. Yeah. So, I mean sorry if you know
(42:06):
your birthdays in August, but it is. Yeah, it's great.
But people were born in the month are great. Yes, agree,
my mom, your mom should have held it, Jamie Loftus.
Of course it was born augusta. My sister is August.
Butack Obama, Oh yeah, is he August? Yeah, well I
(42:26):
think so. Yeah. I just hope he's not a great guy.
It was amazing. Sorry. June uh the special guest co
host from last Friday's episode guest Mary and Williamson's astrological sign,
what is it? Cancer? Cancer? Oh yeah? She was like, yeah,
(42:47):
of course, right, so now I believe in mention. Uh so,
what what can we do to uh participate? No? Want to?
It will happen? Do you think August that it will
go down. I certainly hope not. But so everyone's like, why,
(43:07):
like Boston, why are you letting this happen? And the Mayor,
Marty Walsh, said that Boston cannot deny super Happy Fund
America's public event application even though they disagree with the
organizers values and or beliefs. Um quote. Permits to host
a public event are granted based on operational feasibility, not
(43:30):
based on values or endorsements or beliefs. The City of
Boston cannot deny a permit based on an organization's values.
This is what he tweeted on June six, and then
he added whatever outside groups may try to do, our
values won't change. I invite each and every person to
stand with us and show that love will always prevail.
So he's basically saying like, well, just because we recognize
(43:51):
that these people are a bunch of idiots who also
have ties to uh, you know, all right groups, why supremacists,
all this stuff, we you still have to allow them.
You know, they're right to assemble. I feel like there
should be some sort of like hate group exception, though
you know, I don't know why that's not a thing,
(44:12):
but I mean that people like I guess what you know,
the KKK has been assembling legally for a while. It's
just I guess it'll be another opportunity to get pictures
of these people fired by publicly sanding them from their jobs,
which I mean, then we have to think about it's
(44:34):
like this, who where are they working? Right? Where's there
nine to five? Well, but I think a lot of
people I remember during the Unite the Right rally, people
were like I didn't know, Like, yeah, he seemed like
an asshole, but I didn't know he was a white supremacist.
There are yeah, there's a lot of woodworkers right inside
of the woodwork come out. But Boston was the site
(44:58):
of the like allow up to the Unite the Right rally,
which like almost no one right poorly attended, and that's
that's a that's a insult, the poorly attended Unite the
Right festival right exactly. So maybe I could see this
going any number of ways. I imagine the attendance wouldn't
(45:22):
be great if they're able to go through with it.
I mean, like just imagine what what would even be
happening at this parade? Like what That's what I was
going to say. It wouldn't be super happy fun, and
there are going to be no corporate sponsors, which we have. Now,
what what are straight specific products? We're like, yeah, right,
(45:51):
like what is the unicorn? I guess like cock rock
is that? But like that's oh you know what is
uh skull skull. Yeah it's very straight. Yeah, yeah, skull presents.
But I don't know. Yeah that's true. Yeah, I think
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Bonobos Bobos. Oh, come on, it's a good brand. I'm
just saying it's straight. Yeah, okay, fine, it's straight. I'm
sure plenty of men. Although crocs are fashioned, now that's true.
Oakley is a really Oakley is with baseball cap and beard.
(46:36):
It's a shirt that's like, oh, hunting things like all hunting. Yeah, tactical. Yeah,
a shirt that's like not like touching me. It's just
check fil A still hate. Yeah. As someone in Atlanta
said to me recently, you know, Chick fil A hates
the lb G T S. I'm like, yes, they do.
Someone said that, yes, well not queer people though, yeah.
(47:02):
Now yeah the UM so the group's slogan happy Fun
America or whatever. Then they're called um. Their slogan is
it's great to be straight, whereas it pays to be days. Uh,
(47:24):
and they claim that straight people are an oppressed majority
and that they should be included as equals among all
of the other orientations. So that's where they're coming from. Uh.
I guess they're saying, I don't know why people need
to be constantly reminded of this, But you know, when
(47:47):
you are the oppressor and you are oppressing marginalized groups,
that does not also mean that you are somehow oppressed yourself.
I don't. I do think this idea of straight visibility
is very fine. Yeah, it's like open your open your eyes,
there's there. It's visible. Yeah, it's it's everywhere that it's ubiquitous. Yeah.
(48:12):
I'm trying to think of like a reverse Becdel test
that you could for two straight people, try and find
a movie that in any way discriminates, like, doesn't contain
straight people, discriminates against straight people. Are just like one
cultural example, like there, their examples are going to be like,
(48:35):
don't put that stuff in my face. Man, you're setting
a bad example from my food. Thanks for everything, Julie
newmar Right, get that out of here. Huh. Yeah, that's
probably the But the fact that they think that's the norm,
it's interesting not really Actually, it's very boring. It's always well, no,
(49:00):
it's not interesting all. You're right, but it is curious,
that's right that they feel as though the the scales
have tipped in the favor of the l g B,
t q I a community. It's just a a sensitivity
(49:21):
where they feel like any time somebody takes pride in
anything that doesn't include them, that they being discriminated, being
discriminated against. Anytime somebody says, Doug, please don't say that
word in front of me, they are like, wait, I'm
(49:42):
going to come from outside of the room to like
argue that I should be able to say that word,
even though I wasn't involved in Um, yeah, I I know.
I know people like that. So we're all gonna go
right August thirty one? Should we? Honestly, I'll be in
Boston like two weeks before that. That is when I
(50:08):
missed working for huff Posts. Maybe they would have let
me go just to cover yeah, to cover it. That's
the thing. It's like a fun gay A fun gay
person would never want to even go No, why would
you want to go to that? Which sounds terrible? Like
what music would It's just a gathering of white men.
(50:29):
That's every other parade. Go to the Veterans Day Parade.
The Dave Matthews band. That's a horribly it's a Dave
Matthews concert. Is that like, Yeah, there's nothing like Edge. Yeah,
Like Dave Matthews is like brought to you by Cargo
Shorts Straight pre parade and Cargo Shorts. Um. New York
(50:57):
City has declared a climate emergency. It really speaks to
why it's an emergency that I didn't know that they declared.
That's I was like, oh, ship, so what what specifically
are they declaring? So they're you know, they've declared this
(51:18):
climate emergency. They're calling for an immediate response to the
global climate crises. There's more than one crisis. There's crises
out there. Uh, they've New York City Council has passed
this legislation on June TWI, so it was a few
(51:39):
days ago. UM. The lawmakers wrote, the United States of
America has disproportionately contributed to the climate emergency and has
repeatedly obstructed global efforts to transition towards a green economy,
and thus bears an extraordinary responsibility to rapidly address these
existential threats. We already know all of this stuff. Um,
(52:00):
so basically climate emergencies like this one that New York
just declared. New York City just declared UH function as
a symbol of the commitment to fight climate change, which
with future legislation, rather than actually including any specific policy
measures on what will actually be done to slow climate change.
So it's basically just saying like, hey, everyone calling your
(52:22):
attention to this, which like sure, I guess that step one.
But the fact that like climate change is happening at
such a more rapid pace than climate scientists had even
previously anticipated, and like every time anyone comes out with
(52:42):
a study there, you know, the results are very alarming.
It's like, oh, the you know, the permafrost is melting
at a bazillion times faster than we thought. Like all,
you know, like the the accelerated change is happening is
very very alarming, and it just feels like everyone else
is so slow to catch up. We're like, Okay, we're gonna,
(53:04):
you know, say that we need to do stuff to
change things, and we're gonna you know, declare a climate emergency,
but like you know, we're just putting it. You know,
that's kind of on the back burner for when we
actually do something about it. Yeah. It reminds me of
like a meeting that somebody calls without putting any thought
(53:27):
into it, Like a meeting that a one sentence email. Right,
we're saying it's bad. Yea, so what we already knew
that decades ago. So can you please like actually enact
change to do something to Blasi? Is it, you know,
out to lunch anyway? Right? De Blasio is trying to
(53:50):
figure out if it's problematic to say he looks like
a rat because he does. Well you are the company
you keep right, Yeah, exactly New York City. Um, but yeah,
I don't know. I don't think it is. I've decided
it's not problematic. You let me know if it is problematic.
(54:11):
I know it's like an anti Semitic trope, but uh,
he is not. Well, you know he did he did
something I guess, which was to declare this. I wonder
how much of this is him just like looking for
like a cheap media pop. Oh could be. Yeah, Well,
here's some more hot facts if you'll let me. Yeah, yeah,
(54:35):
these facts are sounds super hot. They're very hot. According
to data from the Innovation Innovation for Cool Earth Forum
UM cool Earth so like happy Fun America but anyway.
More than six seventy governments in fifteen different countries have
declared these climate emergencies, but only eighteen of those local governments,
(55:00):
not including New York, are in the US, So the
U s seems to be you know, not pulling its
weight in terms of climate emergencies. UM. San Francisco and Hoboken,
New Jersey have been some of the few to declare
these climate emergencies, while Los Angeles, where we are right now,
(55:20):
believe it or not ever heard of it, UM has
yet to formally declare an emergency, but is included in
the forums count for initiatives the council members will have
to UH that have made to combat climate change. I
barely understood what I just read, but UM, basically, basically,
(55:41):
you know, the US as always is, you know, doing
a lot to contribute to climate change and then not
taking any accountability for it or not enough. So I
guess New York declaration of this you know emergency is
significant just because of its sheer scope of the constituency there.
It's because it's you know, the are just sitting in
the US. UM. But even so, like I said before, sure,
(56:07):
let's declare an emergency, but what is it doing. Remember
when Pittsburgh when Trump pulled the U S out of
the Climate Accord and then Pittsburgh was like, we're going
to stick to the Climate Accord. Did they really good
for Pittsburgh? Well, they are very techno focused. Yeah, they
really are. Carnegie Mellon is really underrated learning institute. That's
(56:30):
what I should have said for underrated Carnegie if I
came out like swinging was like Carnegie Melon. Yeah. Also
good acting school, Oh yes, I've heard. But conservatory. Yeah,
I I feel like I don't know. I don't know
why all local governments that are, you know, run by
(56:51):
Democrats aren't doing that. Yeah, like just being like, well
we're sticking to the rules. Um, Because again, I guess
it's the first step because it's to say, oh, we
need to do something about this. But like being in asylums, right,
all you need to do is declare an emergency. It
sounds pretty so, I mean, I'm sure there's you know,
writing some some legislation, but oh yeah that does sound hard.
(57:14):
Sounds so it's just chool. I gotta I gotta do
my job as a lawmaker. To write some legislation. I
can't believe this. You know that sounds like a lot, Kara,
it has been so fun having you. I love your brieves.
Where can people find you? Follow you to listen to you.
(57:37):
People can find Sleepwalkers podcast on the I Heart Radio app,
Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Actually,
I should say I'll give a little plug. We launched.
We put out episode nine on Thursday. Our finale, Season
one finale comes out next Thursday. Four Celebrate Nation, Happy Fun,
(58:04):
super cool America. Yes, with you've all. Noah Harare is
our finale guest. Yeah, that's right, that's right. Um he's
had a gay man outa door. Now I get it. Oh,
I get it. Yeah. Uh. And is there a tweet
(58:27):
you've been enjoying? Oh yeah, yeah, there's two tweets. There's
a there's a girl named whatever. I'm not going to
say her handle all Titiano McGrath, but she made a
trolley tweet that was anyone who was fathered by a
male as a byproduct the patriarchy and should be ashamed
of themselves. But Luandy less Epp said something that I
(58:50):
who's on Real House Lives of New York City said
something really I thought profound, which was you don't help
someone and throw it in their face. Yeah, really good point. Yeah. Yeah,
So that's a tweet that I'm really that I thought
was good man. Yeah. And her new singles out Feeling Giovanni, Yeah, good,
(59:15):
which is a What's incredible about Bravo the Bravo verse
is that it's a complete it's everything in it is
a meme. Giovanni is a clothing store in Beverly Hills,
and it's like not a thing, but she's decided to
put out a song called Feeling Jovanni. I guess Jovanni
is whatever you want it to be. Yea um, but
(59:38):
I mean it's a state of mind. If she's creating
industry around a clothing store, which just blows my genius.
It's great branded content. Caitlyn, Where can people find you?
You can follow me on Instagram, Twitter, my website at
Caitlin Durante. You can listen to my podcast right here
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on the I Heart Radio How Stuff works Etter. Still
don't know what we're called network, It's called the Bechtel
Cast and uh my co host Jamie Loftus and I
discussed the representation of women in movies and how it's
almost always bad. You're taking down the patriarchy one film
at a time. That's right, right, um? And is there
(01:00:24):
a tweet you've been enjoying well? Speaking of Jamie Loftus,
she tweeted a few days ago, thrilled to announce that
I made it seven days into a new job to
aggressively suggest we cast Alfred Molina. So that's very funny,
continuing to stand for Alfred Molina. I love Alfred Molina's
(01:00:46):
a lesbian icon. Is he really? I don't know that.
I don't we know that he's a feminist icon, which
is something that we've declared on our show many times.
I adore him. He's great tweet I've been enjoying. Annie
ian j I x c X tweeted, high school teachers,
you could be real with history teachers, English teachers, high
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school teachers that were cops, math teachers, jim teachers. I
identify with that. And then Dave It's cough tweeted, how
close do you think Beto came to attending fire Festival.
I think that definitely happened, or almost happened. I just
saw them. That's pretty good that I would like to
do it. Marion Williamson bringing powerful, divorced and energy. Yeah,
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there was another uh that I could just keep oh ship,
I almost forgot so I read one of a great
old Marion Williamson tweet on last week's episode, But I
totally miss the Avatar thing. She's tweeted. If you want
a simple explanation for what's happening in America, watch Avatar again.
And all the films were good, but Avatar has changed
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the world. He didn't win an Oscar tonight, but James
Cameron deserves a Nobel Peace Prize. Uh fu. Yeah, I
love her love. I mean, it's no Titanic, just James Cameron's.
But it's a full plant based set I've heard come
full circle. You can find me on Twitter at Jack
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I recommend a song by Devan Banhart's former I Guess
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People duck Man. Uh. It's really good, but it's also
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know he's semi canceled. I don't really know what his
deal is anymore. I don't think he was. He wasn't canceled,
okay as much as he should have been. But anyway,
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Since I'm sitting in for Miles Gray, my name anagrams
to Nile Cray plus some other letters that that don't fit. Also,
so last week, when I was at the guest uh,
you might remember that my AK was Lauren C Titanic.
(01:07):
So this week, um, my name also anagrams to ruined Atlantic,
which when the Titanic sunk into the Atlantic Ocean, it
kind of ruined it the Atlantic for all of us. Yeah,
I refused to swim in it anymore. Same and then
(01:28):
finally also anagrams to nine tit dracula. Does it really? Yes?
It does? Good God, that is fine. That's the best
one yet. I don't know how they keep getting better.
But nine tit dracula is so it's a it's a
cow right with nine Oh yeah, yeah, no, I got that.
(01:53):
And I think it's always coming, even them. Uh you
would think and usually yes, But I've discovered re cently
that opossums have thirteen nipples. They form a circle and
then there's one in the middle because the rule is
that it's supposed to be two x the number of
like babies that you generally give birth. Is that the
(02:17):
So that's why we have to and you know dogs
have a whole shipload because they usually give birth to
the whole litter. Whole litter. Uh. Well, we are thrilled
to be joined in our third seat by a very
special guest from the Sleepwalkers podcast, Cara Price. Hi, everybody, Hi,
(02:38):
welcome nine tied Dracula. Blood must spew out of the
of the Oh yeah, I didn't even think of that.
That actually, would you milk that nine titted Dracula. Yeah,
you're gonna get some. I wonder if there's like one
tip for every blood type, so there's like a positive
(03:00):
oh you know, the universal donor the universal recipient like
a d picky about their blood types, like which ones
they like, because mosquitoes are and my poor wife and
son are whatever their favorite type is and they just
attack the ship out of them, and me and my
other son just like get left alone. It's really terrible.
(03:23):
It's mean, mosquitoes are so discriminatory. Yeah, it's really well.
I know, in like True Blood when they were like
selling like the synthetic blood blood at bars, they had
like oh negative and like different types of blood. So
I think in that show, at least the cannon was
that different vampires preferred different blood types. Yeah, that would
(03:44):
be a great solution. If somebody could breed a nine
tips Dracula, like blood spewing cow, then you know, no
more need to attack the humans. I think the mass
of animal rights issue, Yeah, that's true, would not like this.
(04:05):
Peter probably would would advocate for humans to be turned
to vampires instead of the milking of a cow clearly
built specifically for blood milk. If it's it's an undead cow.
Everybody's just digging because this is the whole episode, by
the way, So I hope you're ready. Uh yeah, no,
(04:27):
it's great antagram, great questions all around. Kara, Let's just
say right off top, in case anyone's trying to google
your name, how are we spelling care pres r E
I S as in sam ss and Sam. Yeah. Yeah,
Kara is k A r A Yeah, that's right. Yeah.
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So I don't know what you'll find if you google,
but I do have a podcast called Sleepwalker, Yeah, which
you do. Alls. Um, Well, we're gonna get to know
you a little bit better in a moment. But for
we're going to tell our listeners a couple of things
we're talking about today. The first story we have here
that is eight poll about, you know, the favorability and
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percentages for like whether people would vote for candidates before
and after the first night. So it shows, you know,
how much the debates affected people's favorability and whether someone's
going to vote for them. And we can talk about
we can talk about how the first night changed things
as well, and how the second night changed things in
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our hearts. We're gonna talk about Twitter's new rules, which
may or may not play directly into the president's hands.
We're gonna talk about the straight Pride Parade, aren't we, Caitlin, Um,
We're gonna talk about uh. New York City has declared
a climate emergency. But first, Kara, we like to ask
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our guests, what is something from your search history that
is revealing about who you are? So El Torrero de
la Tora, the Jewish gay mad No, what I had
googled was gay Jewish matador. That was something that I
looked up in my recent search history. And this he
you know, this is a guy who was the first
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of his kind in many ways. I think he was
a gay Jewish matador who lived in Spain but was
based in Brooklyn. No, I was based in Brooklyn, and
Um died in Brooklyn. Pennyless now died in Greenwich Village, penniless. Um.
But my sister had sent me a screenshot of him,
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and he is my grandfather's twin. I mean, really looked
like my grandfather, who was a straight Jew from Brooklyn exactly. Um.
So I googled it and I've been obsessed with the story.
It's The New York Times reported on it because you know,
Pride so they're like scouring the net for the gays
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they can find, and he's one of them. Although I
think being a gay Jewish Man sort of lends itself
also to being a matador in terms of he's very lean.
He loved fashion. And there's a great quote from the
article that they're quoting him and he says, people would say,
but you're Jewish, Mr mark Wood said, and he'd say, yes,
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but the bulls are Catholic. Pretty good. Yeah, that has
to do with me there there it is. Now. I
think we know everything we need to know. What is
something you think is overrated? Uh? Plant based milk like
almond milk and stuff. Yeah, coconut milk. It's disgusting. Should
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I said, maybe I could say something more about you
know AI, but I just think plant based milk is disgusting. Uh,
you have any particular well chased like cardboard, all of it.
Being in l I live in New York and being
in l A is particularly agregious for the half and
half users of America. I went to a cafe the
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other day here and they had no milk. They only
had plant milk. There's a lot of utter based content.
I mean, oh yeah, black they're up exactly. Plant based
milk is disgusting because we all want Dracula tit milk
I want all day, So you are not lactose intolerant.
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It doesn't sound any I wouldn't know, but it's it's
I mean, I am probably makes me ill because I'm Jewish,
as you know from my search history, and it does
make me ill, but not as much as oat milk.
I was because people are like, well, have you tried
oat milk? Milk? Coconut is the coconut coconut, oat almond.
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I love almond milk. Macadamia nut is a new one. Yeah,
but milk is like milk is from an other that
this is almond, this is almond water. That's what milk,
almond milk is. So I think it's overrated and it's
just I mean, there was like totally was back ordered. Yeah,
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people went wild in Los Angeles for oat milk, especially
the oat milk craze of was a violent period in
l A's history. I would imagine, yeah, I would imagine.
I think it's also like if you I was talking
to this guy yesterday who's a scientist, and he said,
just put quantum or neuro on anything and you can
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sell it. I think if quantum milk, yeah, well that
but if you quantum oat milk, I was like, I
need to go home right now and create a product
that's a quantum plant based milk because it gets it
clears your neurotoxins. It's tiny and it just clears you
out right exactly neurotoxins. That's another one. Yeah, I'm gonna
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a lot. I mean, I'll get backlash for everyone likes it.
I just I get half and have it makes my
friends sick that I use half and half. It's disgusting.
But it makes coffee tastes like a milkshake. Yeah. I
wouldn't put almond milk or any of those like nut
milks or anything in coffee that is gross. Oh no, no, no,
I put it on cereal. I might do that just
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because it would just be it would be watered down
by the sugar of cereal, which I can get on
board with. Well, yeah, I find real milk now taste
disgusting because I've made I made the transition to almond.
But I only ever like, I still eat like milk
ice cream right, Like vegan ice cream is like, just
don't eat it. Yeah. I don't eat ice creams, vegan cheese,
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no thing diet. Literally, like someone gave me a vegan
cheese like slice. Sorry, I was just thinking about it,
That's why I was speakingless. It was that it was disgusting. Disgusting. Um,
I wass one skim milk. I mostly drink plant based
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milks these days, but I still like, I think Cereal
is twenty times better with whole milk. Ye. There's just
something about that thick, rich juice that every time. What
is something you think is under rage? Oh? The USPS.
I there's a sorry sorry, sorry, sorry I am. I
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think it's probably our strongest heritage brand in the US.
And I think that it is. When I think about
what happens every day for a letter to get somewhere else,
it brings me into tears. I don't know, maybe, I mean,
I think a lot of other people respect the USPS,
although it's dwindle or actually Trump would not call the
USPS the failing USPS. For some reason, he likes it.
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I think it's like an establishment thing. Um. But yeah,
the the United States Postal Service stamps. I mean, I'm
a philatelist. There's just a everything about it to me,
is so attractive. Stamp collect yes, stamp enthusiasts, not someone
who flates. No, that's a flation. Well there's not. There's
a facialist, which is someone who treats the top of
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a stamp with their finger. But yeah, I have a
lineage of filatelists. What's your favorite stamp? You have it?
But right now, the Ellsworth Kelly stamp is very cool.
It's the artist that you know. They do like these
capsule collections of stamps, and he's one of them. I
had one Sally Rye and may she rest? Um I
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think she's dead and um okay. So he is a
very simple abstract artist. His art is a wow. It
is really cool. It's cool, it's made for stamps. I
also buy. I think stamps are great and I loved
you know. Recently I signed a lease and they were like,
do you want to you the you know, the easy
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pay thing, and I said, no, I want to mail
the check because you want to and I don't know
what it is. I'm a hope for shipping and handling.
I've always been one. I love going to the I
love to mail. I'm in the USPS like at least
four so you like the process of going to the
post office, at which I have to tell you, as
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a podcaster, that is sacrilege because podcasting was built on
the assumption that going to the post office is literal
hell on Earth because of stamps dot Com, Like, oh,
stamp stright, go back and listen to early podcasts that
have the baked in ads. They're gonna be like, wait,
why was Why did everybody hate the post office so
(13:46):
much back then? Because that was just the number one
built in presumption of of all podcasts was that, well,
we all fucking hate the post office? Am I right? Guys? Um,
I have a stamps dot com account, do yeah all
the time? Media ex Yeah, but I listened to podcasts
in line of the post office. That's the whole thing.
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I mean, you're not supposed to be allowed to do that,
but I'm sorry. If those were unrelated to my themes, No,
it's great. We're learning a lot about that. Those are
my things. And then finally, what is a myth? What's
something people think is true you know to be false?
Well I don't. I don't know so much of this
is a myth. But there's this sense when you nine
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of ten people if you ask them what AI is.
It's the same people where you ask what gluten is,
they're like bread. AI is the same way where I
think most people think of robots or like artificially intelligent
robots or people who are going to take your job,
or robots are gonna take your jobs, whereas AI is
really like what allows you to order a Starbucks coffee
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when you're in your car we're still on the train. Like,
I mean, that's not the best example, but like AI
is basically part of and parcel everything that we now
do on our part sold something that yes, you're building.
I mean, it is my dream to do a short
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form web series where I visit all of the post
offices of America. Would that be possible? Um no, not
when when they when? When? Development people are like, what's
the audience? That would be a hard question, old people
who will be dead by the end of this meeting.
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That's right, But AI is sort of finding ways to
mimic like neuron connections, right, and yeah, well it's also
I mean you're talking about elections. I mean it's it's
really an amazing way to make predictions about things using data.
So the human mind can only compute so much um
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and take into account so much data, whereas algorithms can
look at vast amounts of adda, whether it be pictures, um,
well code, I guess, uh, and and then make predictions
based on those things. Right, we're better at catching like tumors,
and we're better at catching all things just from like
(16:13):
loading scans into or into brain. I think, yeah, that's right,
that's right. Yeah, But like you know, they the raptors
used AI to help better there in drastic market, the
open doors, the Drake raptors, Drake raptors, they should just
(16:35):
change their I'm so sorry, Toronto, how did they use
So basically, you can use AI to make better again,
use for predictions, sake, to look at your shot history
and sort of better understand maybe where you should be
(16:56):
placing yourself on the court, right, where you should be
more shop. That's right. So there's machine learning. I mean,
this is machine learning. Machine learning is basically now being
harnessed in like every possible field you can imagine, And
that's artificial intelligence. It's using computers to to make decisions. Now,
sleepwalkers would imply that title would imply that we're unaware
(17:23):
of something. I would say, yeah, and what are we
unaware of? Well, I think people don't think about their
data enough generally. I think maybe in the past two
years maybe I think also post election tampering people started,
and the Cambridge An scandal, people started thinking more about,
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oh my god, like, Facebook has a lot of information
about me, and it's being given to other companies that
I don't want to have my information. So on the
most basic level, not thinking about that enough is sleepwalking.
You know the idea now that certain states I mean
now there's two only, but certain states are you know,
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making uh the government use official recognition technology illegal? Is
a good? Is a step in the right direction, I
personally think, but I don't think people have an appreciation
for Okay, if like is the d m V using
my face too make predictions about other things legislatively. So
(18:30):
Oz took the phrase my co host took the phrase
from a British history book. But um, but but I think,
you know, for him also, when he was thinking of
the show, which he asked me to do a little
later on, but when he was thinking of this show,
you know, he he started to think about, well, what
(18:52):
are all the things that I don't know that aren't
going to be happening in the future, but actually are
happening right now. And how can I talk to the
people who have built these rules who a lot of
them are like sounding the alarm. You know, people who
worked at Facebook who were like, yeah, well they trained
people created the light button, were like trained on the
same tools that they used to build casinos, right, yeah, exactly.
(19:14):
I mean it's you're you're losing your free will because
you know, they are all these ways that companies are
manipulating your mind to make the decisions they want you
to make. And so you were like reframing it as
from a thing about like, well, I don't care what
they know about me because I have nothing to nothing
(19:38):
to hide and I'm a boy scout to know, but
you are not in control of your own life because
they know so much about you. And then they're you know,
manipulating your life in the background. Uh, and some people don't.
I mean, I think a lot of people don't care. Like,
you know, I spoke to these parents on the podcast
who were like, well, if Amazon knows when I need diapers,
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that makes my life a lot easier. But it's also
are you okay with the fact that Amazon also sells
like consumer facial recognition technology to government contracts. Yeah, like
my face is very hot, so many people to see it.
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Don't say hot because they're they're also tracing biometrics. Honey,
your actual body temperature? What well, I mean I am
a vampire and my body is actually very cool. Well,
if a hot face actually implies that you are nervous
about something and might be carrying a bomb, So yeah,
(20:42):
that's what they You never heard the term hot faces? Yeah, okay,
what I mean, it's not that cool. Good to know,
but yes, all that by like anything that can be
scanned and then can paired to other things that have
been scanned, is using AI to detect or like white
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list or blacklist someone. So now they're doing it with
a laser called jetson, where they're actually using your heartbeat
as a biometric monitor, so like, oh, that's Jack's heart.
Like if they can't see your face because you're compromised,
they're starting to be able to read people in other ways. There,
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when I say there, it's like DARPA is developing these things. God,
so if you have like an increased heartbeat, that will
be telling of oh that person, Well, just how your
heartbeats is a very particular signature that only you have. Yeah,
I didn't realize. Apparently it's exactly like your heartbeat is
like a fingerprint. Oh really, I didn't yet that, Yeah, exactly.
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Mind is like a hip hop. Yeah, it's like it's
like in an acapella group. So those are all ai
E things. Like when you go on jet Blue and
you're using your face to board a plane, you should
just ask people who work at jet Blue where's that
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data going? Is it a hard delete? Are you storing
that data and then selling it to the US government?
Are you like And I think the answer a lot
of times no. And there are a lot of people
who are working in this sort of ethical surveillance, if
such a thing as possible, who are really like creating
tools to also sound the alarm. Same with people who
are developing technology to detect deep fakes. They have to
(22:39):
create deep fakes in order to detect them. So you know,
it's the kind of thing to just keep your eyes
open too, don't walk into it. I'm listening to But
if your eyes are open, then they're going to use
retinal skirt. Well. They've now, of course a kickstarter respectacles,
(23:01):
I think they're called something like that. I want to say,
I'm I'll be saying it's something spect it's something ecticals,
and it turns your eye into that like feeds it
back right into the camera. Well fund, I was thinking
well funded kickstarters and then you're like malaria, Like, what
in the funk are you creating better than saving people's
(23:25):
lives from malaria? Crazy? Whatever? Yeah, we also have a
search for extraterrestrial yeah. Intelligence. Also, don't keep your eyes
open and just keep your ears open listen to podcast
they Yeah, that's right. Audio is very safe. Walk around
with your eyes closed and podcasts in your ears and
(23:47):
you will be safe. Um, no danger there. So basically,
be a blind hipster for the rest of your life.
There you alright, we're gonna take a quick break. We'll
be right back, and we're back and uh, kind of
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staying on a similar subject to uh, you know, ways
that Silicon Valley is controlling us, So Twitter announced that
they will start blocking the tweets of famous celebrities and politicians. Basically,
they will start demanding that politicians follow their terms of service,
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which I assumed that they I knew they didn't do
this because of things that the President tweets and gets
away with. But I assumed they that was like an
unspoken thing, and in this case, they're just like, no, no,
we we have a total double standard for influential people,
(24:56):
and we let them do whatever they want up to
this point. But now we're going to start, you know,
paying a little bit more attention to them, which is
pretty wild. M Yeah, how does the celebrity, you know,
break the terms? And so some of the examples that
people were pointing to are when the President used his
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Twitter account to threaten nuclear war with North Korea, share
a video depicting violence against CNN, where like a wrestler
beat the ship out of a another wrestler who had
CNN photoshopped over their head. Very subtle, motherfucker. He's funny
a lot of the time. It's just terrorists, it's terror Yeah,
(25:42):
he's very entertaining, which I think is a big part
of what got us that he like hacked the entertainment
industrial complex. But what makes him different entertaining? Yeah, yeah,
actually she's pretty or when he retweets misinformation about Muslims.
Twitter spokesperson said the change was not inspired by any
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specific world leader. Okay. People also pointed to Uh. Brazil's
far right, homophobic president Balsonnaro tweeted, like, during Carnivall, like
Carnival celebrations started to turn against him a little bit.
People were like Ballsonnaro. Uh. And he then tweeted a
(26:29):
video of somebody giving someone else a golden shower during
Carnival and people celebrating that, and he was like, I mean,
you see what these sickos are doing right at the
p P party And it's like you pulled that pretty
quickly on the file. Huh. Yeah, So that's another example
(26:51):
of this sort of thing that Twitter would Uh. So
they're holding people more accountable despite their influence. They are,
but it's they're acknowledged. So they're basically overtly setting up
a sort of tear system where users are officially allowed
to break the rules and instead of getting removed from
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the platforms, like they have this thing where it just
like grays out the content and you have to basically
asked to see it and then right exactly and they
will not spread those tweets they want like feature them
and even if they are like viral tweets, you won't
(27:33):
see them in your moments feed. But our writer jam
McNab was kind of pointing out that this system could
very easily play right into Trump's tiny hands because by
playing the victim like that's his go to move, is
acting like he's being victimized. I mean, it's all fascists
(27:55):
go to move. But you know, he recently said on
Fox News that Google and Facebook should be sued over
their bias towards conservatives, and uh, the subreddit are that
Donald was quarantined recently after you know, members were inciting
violence against cops and basically threatening to murder police officers.
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The subreddit people finally got shut down. By the way,
do you guys know that story about the Oregon politicians.
I don't think so. The Democratic Congress in Oregon was
trying to pass a climate bill and the Republicans left
the state to like go hide out to avoid having
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to vote on it. Because that is apparently like their
version of a filibuster, which is a thing that has
happened before, and in fact, the Democrats in Texas did
that I think in the nineties, But this time the
Republicans are hanging out with three per centers, which is
like this heavily armed militia and they're basically saying the police,
if you bring the police to us, we will kill them.
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And then people on Are the Donald were like basically
talking about like starting a war in Oregon, which I
should have known ship, like this was going to happen
in Oregon. When Robert Evans, the host of Behind the Bastards,
was like, I'm he moved to Oregon from southern California
because he was like, Yeah, that's where a bunch of
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really crazy ship is going to be and I need
to be there. He's the one who told who we
were on his show, and he told me about the
three percenters. Yeah. He also told me that it was
literally illegal. There were no black people all out in Oregon,
like it was one of the states in the Yeah,
until like the nineteen twenties or something like that. Some
some like too soon ago. Yes. So as a result
(29:48):
of a bunch of death threats being posted on Our
the Donald by Donald Trump supporters, they quarantined that, which
means you can still get to it, but you have
to like go through a couple of paywalls, and you
can't find it on or not pay walls, but like
blocks where you have to be like are you sure,
Are you sure? And so I don't know. It just
seems like what's going to be more popular than Trump
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tweeting something that does get flagged by Twitter's new rule
and then Trump like freaking out about that, like that
becomes a news cycle, you know. And I mean people
are also pointing out that Twitter itself is not like
his Twitter feed is not the thing that actually gets
his message out. It's that he tweets, tweets out messages
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that then get covered by the news, by TV news,
by all manner of news. So it's just this wouldn't
really affect that. It would just be a way for
him to act like he's getting victimized while still getting
the same message out and on Fox News and when
it's outrageous enough in the rest of the mainstream media.
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So yeah, just a something to keep an eye on, guys.
Uh let's check in with eight uh. So pre debate,
Joe Biden was forty one percent. After the first debate,
he went down to thirty five percent. After the second debate,
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he went down to thirty one percent. Well that's a
huge drop. Yeah, so he fell off ten percent before
the first debate. Elizabeth Warren was twelve percent. After the
first debate she was eighteen percent, and then after the
second debate, for some reason, she got hurt really bad.
By the second debate, she went back down to fourteen percent.
I'm assuming because Kamala Harris, let's look at what rocked
(31:40):
it till the break dawn. So she went before the
first debate was at eight percent. After the first debate
was six point three percent, So she lost a percentage point,
presumably to Elizabeth Warren, because Elizabeth Warren had a big
jump after the first debate. After this last debate she
is at sixteen seventeen percent, so she jumped up over
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ten percentage points, so she's doing good. Uh. People went
from six point seven before the debates to four point
eight after them. Corey Booker went from three percent before
the first debate to four percent after the first debate,
back down to three percent, and Beto Or just continues
(32:26):
to hemorrhage support. Uh, from three point six percent down
to two point two. But I mean, that might not
seem like that significant of a change, but um, you know,
when that's all you've got is two percent, that's probably
seems like a lot. So by now this is probably
in the news stream and been done and dusted and
(32:48):
digested by everybody, but it's still you know, we we
assumed after Biden's performance that he was going to be hurt.
People made a huge deal of the Kamala Harris thing,
and I think she did a really good job of
driving home some of the racial issues that he was
already having. But I think the thing that was new
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was how kind of unsteady on his feet. He seemed
like he he just didn't seem very nimble like mentally.
And I think the thing that stuck with me the
most was when they asked, okay, first day in the
White House, what is your number one priority going to be?
And everybody was like, you know, climate change, this, that,
and he said beat Donald Trump, which is so you've
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already he means that he wants to beat him up, right,
some tweet making that point. Um, But yeah, it seems
like a big portion of his support went to Elizabeth Warren,
Kamala Harris, some went to Bernie Sanders. What did Sanders do?
Let's see, he went to UM before the first debate,
(34:00):
he was at fourteen point four. After the first debate,
six rose up to sixteen point four, and then after
the second debate rose again about one percent to seventeen
point three. Are we looking at a Lizzie Lizzie Bernie
a ticket ticket? Yeah? I could see that. Um, it
seems like a lot of her support went to Kamala
(34:23):
Harris and uh and Bernie Sanders, so it seems like
similar sort of appeal. I'd like a Warren Harris ticket. Yes,
give me that please? Yeah? Who's who? You know? What?
That good question? Let me think on it. Do you
need me to What do you mean? Who's like? Which
(34:47):
one would be? Which one to me? Which one is? Sorry,
which Elizabeth Warren? And which one is Kamala Harris? Just
imagine Elizabeth Warren with Kamala Harris's name. That's like what
if combine the two together into a hybrid person and
then add some AI in there. That's right, Well, a
(35:10):
I could predict whose name This is why machine learning school.
You could predict whose name would be the likeliest to
win a presidential election based on certain Well, you'd have
to set the rules, so either you could set it
based on consonants and vowels. You could set it on
like syllables. For some reason, I think be having a
(35:34):
bee in a middle name or anything, just a but
that is Bill Biden, Bernie, Bob Dole, the sexiest politician,
Corey Booker, beat Oh, it seems like these are amazing. Yeah, Brian, Yeah,
(35:57):
that's right, or in yeah, Beth, we call her, yeah Beth. Okay,
So Kamala needs a B in her name? Was Mamala
b Harris? You know what it might actually been Harris. No,
it's not alright, guys, let's real quick. D D shit
(36:20):
D is a terrible letter. I think the debate sort
of made all of this more interesting and possible to
pay attention to. It just seemed like we had the
same opinions about everybody for a long time, and at
least things are moving a little bit. There's a little motion. Yeah, yeah,
people are paying attention. Yeah. It's funny that Bernie is
(36:43):
just you know, fourteen to sixteen to seventeen. It's like
he he changed less between the debates that he actually
participated in then the debate that he didn't participate in,
because and that makes sense to me, because there's nothing
you can learn from a Bernie Sanders speech at this
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point if you've been paying attention at all for the
past six years and I mean part of me, like
I I like that because there's something authentic about that
that like, this is what I believe. It's not changing
no matter how you frame it. This is what I believe.
But there there was a point during the debate where
(37:24):
they asked him a question specifically about race, and he
was like, we gotta change, we gotta go after the corporations.
And it's just like is because I'm struggling with like
who I support and uh, if he's the president of
the United States, it's a complicated job, I guess, So
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like it's authentic to be that ideologically like centered and
you know, have that same answer and that lens that
you view everything through. But if there is a racial crisis,
which they is an ongoing one in the country with
you know, cops shooting people of color, or if there
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is a national security crisis, like does he's just like,
we have to go after the corporation. Like that's not
quite the response to that particular problem, Bernie, So we
will see what I think. So that that his uh,
like numbers changed more in the debate that he didn't participation.
(38:29):
That means that, like I guess, people had like we're
favoring two candidates and then they were like, oh, well,
I didn't like how that person did in that first debate.
I guess I'll switch to Bernie, Like, well I was
on Bernie, Yeah, now I'm back something like that. Yeah, yeah,
that is funny though. All right, we're gonna take a
(38:51):
quick break and then we'll be back to talk about
the Straight Pride Pride. I don't think we forgot about
you straight guys. Yeah, and we're back and the Straight
Pride Parade is back in the news. I had kind
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of assumed I didn't want to talk too much about
this because it seemed like it could be one of
those things like the stunt the parade. The Grand Marshal
of the parade is Milounopolis, who is a uh you know,
he's a troll icon everyone's favorite. Yeah, but he's he's
(39:37):
a troll who like will announce an appearance. And he
did that thing where he was like going to go
to Stanford and take over campus and people are like,
please don't or maybe it was Berkeley, and then uh,
you know, he there was a bunch of controversy and
then he never ended up doing it because he was
just there too. Rack up some mentions. Um, but it
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does seem like this is going forward. Yes, it does,
because the City of Boston officials they're approved the application
that would allow a group to hold the straight Pride parade. Um.
The group is called super Happy Fun America. So that
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they clearly are disproving the idea that straight people don't
have a way with language, because those are very I
mean that that they know dozens of words in the
English language, super Happy Fun America. I sure, okay? Or
is that what they think it gay people represented like
(40:42):
super Happy Fun there it's too yeah, or this is
their attempt to compete with well, because I would say
if you did straight pride, it would be like flannel khaki,
the opposite of super happy and right right, it would
be extremely boring, medioc or out KACKI yeah, events No
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people are terrible, mediocre might be beyond their right, right,
right right. So this is an event that is meant to,
of course, counter the City of Boston's and many other
cities across the country l g B t Q plus
Pride parade that happens every year. Why why why do
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black people get a e t entertainment channel? Why do yeah,
you name it yes. So. The president of this group,
Super Happy Fun America, John Hugo, submitted the application and
this lated date for the parade is August thirty one,
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which is straight pride months. August. Yes, I would say
the worst months of the year in America. Yeah, easily,
Like the worst movies come out in August. I feel
like it's just every everyone's like they're no good holidays
in August. Yeah. So, I mean sorry if you know
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your birthdays in August, but it is. Yeah, it's great.
But people were born in the month are great. Yes, agree,
my mom, your mom should have held it, Jamie Loftus.
Of course it was born augusta. My sister is August.
Butack Obama, Oh yeah, is he August? Yeah, well I
(42:26):
think so. Yeah. I just hope he's not a great guy.
It was amazing. Sorry. June uh the special guest co
host from last Friday's episode guest Mary and Williamson's astrological sign,
what is it? Cancer? Cancer? Oh yeah? She was like, yeah,
(42:47):
of course, right, so now I believe in mention. Uh so,
what what can we do to uh participate? No? Want to?
It will happen? Do you think August that it will
go down. I certainly hope not. But so everyone's like, why,
(43:07):
like Boston, why are you letting this happen? And the Mayor,
Marty Walsh, said that Boston cannot deny super Happy Fund
America's public event application even though they disagree with the
organizers values and or beliefs. Um quote. Permits to host
a public event are granted based on operational feasibility, not
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based on values or endorsements or beliefs. The City of
Boston cannot deny a permit based on an organization's values.
This is what he tweeted on June six, and then
he added whatever outside groups may try to do, our
values won't change. I invite each and every person to
stand with us and show that love will always prevail.
So he's basically saying like, well, just because we recognize
(43:51):
that these people are a bunch of idiots who also
have ties to uh, you know, all right groups, why supremacists,
all this stuff, we you still have to allow them.
You know, they're right to assemble. I feel like there
should be some sort of like hate group exception, though
you know, I don't know why that's not a thing,
(44:12):
but I mean that people like I guess what you know,
the KKK has been assembling legally for a while. It's
just I guess it'll be another opportunity to get pictures
of these people fired by publicly sanding them from their jobs,
which I mean, then we have to think about it's
(44:34):
like this, who where are they working? Right? Where's there
nine to five? Well, but I think a lot of
people I remember during the Unite the Right rally, people
were like I didn't know, Like, yeah, he seemed like
an asshole, but I didn't know he was a white supremacist.
There are yeah, there's a lot of woodworkers right inside
of the woodwork come out. But Boston was the site
(44:58):
of the like allow up to the Unite the Right rally,
which like almost no one right poorly attended, and that's
that's a that's a insult, the poorly attended Unite the
Right festival right exactly. So maybe I could see this
going any number of ways. I imagine the attendance wouldn't
(45:22):
be great if they're able to go through with it.
I mean, like just imagine what what would even be
happening at this parade? Like what That's what I was
going to say. It wouldn't be super happy fun, and
there are going to be no corporate sponsors, which we have. Now,
what what are straight specific products? We're like, yeah, right,
(45:51):
like what is the unicorn? I guess like cock rock
is that? But like that's oh you know what is
uh skull skull. Yeah it's very straight. Yeah, yeah, skull presents.
But I don't know. Yeah that's true. Yeah, I think
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Bonobos Bobos. Oh, come on, it's a good brand. I'm
just saying it's straight. Yeah, okay, fine, it's straight. I'm
sure plenty of men. Although crocs are fashioned, now that's true.
Oakley is a really Oakley is with baseball cap and beard.
(46:36):
It's a shirt that's like, oh, hunting things like all hunting. Yeah, tactical. Yeah,
a shirt that's like not like touching me. It's just
check fil A still hate. Yeah. As someone in Atlanta
said to me recently, you know, Chick fil A hates
the lb G T S. I'm like, yes, they do.
Someone said that, yes, well not queer people though, yeah.
(47:02):
Now yeah the UM so the group's slogan happy Fun
America or whatever. Then they're called um. Their slogan is
it's great to be straight, whereas it pays to be days. Uh,
(47:24):
and they claim that straight people are an oppressed majority
and that they should be included as equals among all
of the other orientations. So that's where they're coming from. Uh.
I guess they're saying, I don't know why people need
to be constantly reminded of this, But you know, when
(47:47):
you are the oppressor and you are oppressing marginalized groups,
that does not also mean that you are somehow oppressed yourself.
I don't. I do think this idea of straight visibility
is very fine. Yeah, it's like open your open your eyes,
there's there. It's visible. Yeah, it's it's everywhere that it's ubiquitous. Yeah.
(48:12):
I'm trying to think of like a reverse Becdel test
that you could for two straight people, try and find
a movie that in any way discriminates, like, doesn't contain
straight people, discriminates against straight people. Are just like one
cultural example, like there, their examples are going to be like,
(48:35):
don't put that stuff in my face. Man, you're setting
a bad example from my food. Thanks for everything, Julie
newmar Right, get that out of here. Huh. Yeah, that's
probably the But the fact that they think that's the norm,
it's interesting not really Actually, it's very boring. It's always well, no,
(49:00):
it's not interesting all. You're right, but it is curious,
that's right that they feel as though the the scales
have tipped in the favor of the l g B,
t q I a community. It's just a a sensitivity
(49:21):
where they feel like any time somebody takes pride in
anything that doesn't include them, that they being discriminated, being
discriminated against. Anytime somebody says, Doug, please don't say that
word in front of me, they are like, wait, I'm
(49:42):
going to come from outside of the room to like
argue that I should be able to say that word,
even though I wasn't involved in Um, yeah, I I know.
I know people like that. So we're all gonna go
right August thirty one? Should we? Honestly, I'll be in
Boston like two weeks before that. That is when I
(50:08):
missed working for huff Posts. Maybe they would have let
me go just to cover yeah, to cover it. That's
the thing. It's like a fun gay A fun gay
person would never want to even go No, why would
you want to go to that? Which sounds terrible? Like
what music would It's just a gathering of white men.
(50:29):
That's every other parade. Go to the Veterans Day Parade.
The Dave Matthews band. That's a horribly it's a Dave
Matthews concert. Is that like, Yeah, there's nothing like Edge. Yeah,
Like Dave Matthews is like brought to you by Cargo
Shorts Straight pre parade and Cargo Shorts. Um. New York
(50:57):
City has declared a climate emergency. It really speaks to
why it's an emergency that I didn't know that they declared.
That's I was like, oh, ship, so what what specifically
are they declaring? So they're you know, they've declared this
(51:18):
climate emergency. They're calling for an immediate response to the
global climate crises. There's more than one crisis. There's crises
out there. Uh, they've New York City Council has passed
this legislation on June TWI, so it was a few
(51:39):
days ago. UM. The lawmakers wrote, the United States of
America has disproportionately contributed to the climate emergency and has
repeatedly obstructed global efforts to transition towards a green economy,
and thus bears an extraordinary responsibility to rapidly address these
existential threats. We already know all of this stuff. Um,
(52:00):
so basically climate emergencies like this one that New York
just declared. New York City just declared UH function as
a symbol of the commitment to fight climate change, which
with future legislation, rather than actually including any specific policy
measures on what will actually be done to slow climate change.
So it's basically just saying like, hey, everyone calling your
(52:22):
attention to this, which like sure, I guess that step one.
But the fact that like climate change is happening at
such a more rapid pace than climate scientists had even
previously anticipated, and like every time anyone comes out with
(52:42):
a study there, you know, the results are very alarming.
It's like, oh, the you know, the permafrost is melting
at a bazillion times faster than we thought. Like all,
you know, like the the accelerated change is happening is
very very alarming, and it just feels like everyone else
is so slow to catch up. We're like, Okay, we're gonna,
(53:04):
you know, say that we need to do stuff to
change things, and we're gonna you know, declare a climate emergency,
but like you know, we're just putting it. You know,
that's kind of on the back burner for when we
actually do something about it. Yeah. It reminds me of
like a meeting that somebody calls without putting any thought
(53:27):
into it, Like a meeting that a one sentence email. Right,
we're saying it's bad. Yea, so what we already knew
that decades ago. So can you please like actually enact
change to do something to Blasi? Is it, you know,
out to lunch anyway? Right? De Blasio is trying to
(53:50):
figure out if it's problematic to say he looks like
a rat because he does. Well you are the company
you keep right, Yeah, exactly New York City. Um, but yeah,
I don't know. I don't think it is. I've decided
it's not problematic. You let me know if it is problematic.
(54:11):
I know it's like an anti Semitic trope, but uh,
he is not. Well, you know he did he did
something I guess, which was to declare this. I wonder
how much of this is him just like looking for
like a cheap media pop. Oh could be. Yeah, Well,
here's some more hot facts if you'll let me. Yeah, yeah,
(54:35):
these facts are sounds super hot. They're very hot. According
to data from the Innovation Innovation for Cool Earth Forum
UM cool Earth so like happy Fun America but anyway.
More than six seventy governments in fifteen different countries have
declared these climate emergencies, but only eighteen of those local governments,
(55:00):
not including New York, are in the US, So the
U s seems to be you know, not pulling its
weight in terms of climate emergencies. UM. San Francisco and Hoboken,
New Jersey have been some of the few to declare
these climate emergencies, while Los Angeles, where we are right now,
(55:20):
believe it or not ever heard of it, UM has
yet to formally declare an emergency, but is included in
the forums count for initiatives the council members will have
to UH that have made to combat climate change. I
barely understood what I just read, but UM, basically, basically,
(55:41):
you know, the US as always is, you know, doing
a lot to contribute to climate change and then not
taking any accountability for it or not enough. So I
guess New York declaration of this you know emergency is
significant just because of its sheer scope of the constituency there.
It's because it's you know, the are just sitting in
the US. UM. But even so, like I said before, sure,
(56:07):
let's declare an emergency, but what is it doing. Remember
when Pittsburgh when Trump pulled the U S out of
the Climate Accord and then Pittsburgh was like, we're going
to stick to the Climate Accord. Did they really good
for Pittsburgh? Well, they are very techno focused. Yeah, they
really are. Carnegie Mellon is really underrated learning institute. That's
(56:30):
what I should have said for underrated Carnegie if I
came out like swinging was like Carnegie Melon. Yeah. Also
good acting school, Oh yes, I've heard. But conservatory. Yeah,
I I feel like I don't know. I don't know
why all local governments that are, you know, run by
(56:51):
Democrats aren't doing that. Yeah, like just being like, well
we're sticking to the rules. Um, Because again, I guess
it's the first step because it's to say, oh, we
need to do something about this. But like being in asylums, right,
all you need to do is declare an emergency. It
sounds pretty so, I mean, I'm sure there's you know,
writing some some legislation, but oh yeah that does sound hard.
(57:14):
Sounds so it's just chool. I gotta I gotta do
my job as a lawmaker. To write some legislation. I
can't believe this. You know that sounds like a lot, Kara,
it has been so fun having you. I love your brieves.
Where can people find you? Follow you to listen to you.
(57:37):
People can find Sleepwalkers podcast on the I Heart Radio app,
Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Actually,
I should say I'll give a little plug. We launched.
We put out episode nine on Thursday. Our finale, Season
one finale comes out next Thursday. Four Celebrate Nation, Happy Fun,
(58:04):
super cool America. Yes, with you've all. Noah Harare is
our finale guest. Yeah, that's right, that's right. Um he's
had a gay man outa door. Now I get it. Oh,
I get it. Yeah. Uh. And is there a tweet
(58:27):
you've been enjoying? Oh yeah, yeah, there's two tweets. There's
a there's a girl named whatever. I'm not going to
say her handle all Titiano McGrath, but she made a
trolley tweet that was anyone who was fathered by a
male as a byproduct the patriarchy and should be ashamed
of themselves. But Luandy less Epp said something that I
(58:50):
who's on Real House Lives of New York City said
something really I thought profound, which was you don't help
someone and throw it in their face. Yeah, really good point. Yeah. Yeah,
So that's a tweet that I'm really that I thought
was good man. Yeah. And her new singles out Feeling Giovanni, Yeah, good,
(59:15):
which is a What's incredible about Bravo the Bravo verse
is that it's a complete it's everything in it is
a meme. Giovanni is a clothing store in Beverly Hills,
and it's like not a thing, but she's decided to
put out a song called Feeling Jovanni. I guess Jovanni
is whatever you want it to be. Yea um, but
(59:38):
I mean it's a state of mind. If she's creating
industry around a clothing store, which just blows my genius.
It's great branded content. Caitlyn, Where can people find you?
You can follow me on Instagram, Twitter, my website at
Caitlin Durante. You can listen to my podcast right here
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on the I Heart Radio How Stuff works Etter. Still
don't know what we're called network, It's called the Bechtel
Cast and uh my co host Jamie Loftus and I
discussed the representation of women in movies and how it's
almost always bad. You're taking down the patriarchy one film
at a time. That's right, right, um? And is there
(01:00:24):
a tweet you've been enjoying well? Speaking of Jamie Loftus,
she tweeted a few days ago, thrilled to announce that
I made it seven days into a new job to
aggressively suggest we cast Alfred Molina. So that's very funny,
continuing to stand for Alfred Molina. I love Alfred Molina's
(01:00:46):
a lesbian icon. Is he really? I don't know that.
I don't we know that he's a feminist icon, which
is something that we've declared on our show many times.
I adore him. He's great tweet I've been enjoying. Annie
ian j I x c X tweeted, high school teachers,
you could be real with history teachers, English teachers, high
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school teachers that were cops, math teachers, jim teachers. I
identify with that. And then Dave It's cough tweeted, how
close do you think Beto came to attending fire Festival.
I think that definitely happened, or almost happened. I just
saw them. That's pretty good that I would like to
do it. Marion Williamson bringing powerful, divorced and energy. Yeah,
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there was another uh that I could just keep oh ship,
I almost forgot so I read one of a great
old Marion Williamson tweet on last week's episode, But I
totally miss the Avatar thing. She's tweeted. If you want
a simple explanation for what's happening in America, watch Avatar again.
And all the films were good, but Avatar has changed
(01:01:57):
the world. He didn't win an Oscar tonight, but James
Cameron deserves a Nobel Peace Prize. Uh fu. Yeah, I
love her love. I mean, it's no Titanic, just James Cameron's.
But it's a full plant based set I've heard come
full circle. You can find me on Twitter at Jack
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I recommend a song by Devan Banhart's former I Guess
side project called Mega Push. This song is called Duck
People duck Man. Uh. It's really good, but it's also
like pretty funny and as he's been sorry, makes an
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appearance in like a very weird role. Uh. And I
know he's semi canceled. I don't really know what his
deal is anymore. I don't think he was. He wasn't canceled,
okay as much as he should have been. But anyway,
it's a fun song. Duck People, duck Man buy Mega Place.
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