Debt Ceiling Death Race, No Writers? No Problem! 05.19.23

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome this season two eighty seven
to eighty seven. I said you got it the fuck
I mean to eighty seven, not to eighty step in Wolf,
Episode five of The Daily Sit Guys. It's a production
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America's shared consciousness. And you're hearing my voice, so you

(00:21):
know what time it is? The substitute teachers in the
fucking building, and he is high as shit. He just
got out of his Mitsubishi and the smoke clouds are
billowing out. It's Friday, May nineteenth. It's Friday. I'm fucking
Friday's fuck yeah, May nineteenth. And guess what. It's NASCAR Day.
Didn't know that that was a thing. It's National Pizza

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Party Day, It's national It's Malcolm X Day. It's National
Devil's Food Cake Day. It's National Defense Transfer that National
Dangered Species Day, National Bike to Workday, and many other things.
It's a fantastic day, but really.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
It's Friday.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
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But yes, thank you for that one. Obviously. That was
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and I'm thrilled to be joined my co host today,
my guest co host today. Look, this brother's from Chicago.
You know what I mean. He's a great musician, he's
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I don't and I know this is a podcast that
doesn't help to talk about tattoos, but I will. And look,
DJ Producer, I don't know what else to say. All around,
fantastic human. Please welcome to the microphone.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Justin Connor.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
Man, it's your boy, Justin Connor, stay out of Chicago,
the perpetual shy guy on a twelve year siesta in
Los Angeles.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
There you go. Yeah, the artist arms like we were
talking yesterday.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
Yeah, I got the artist arms, the little noodle arm.
You know, you know you're trying to decorate them up
with some art right here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's
my arm is a little raw right now. But man,
amazing fantastic artists. I linked up with Danny Cansino. I'm
gonna drop more for information at the end of the
show and plug her because man, I couldn't be happier.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
And I only have like twenty percent of the test.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
I love that twenty percent, like and I recommend it. Yeah,
And then later you're like, man, it was a l man. No,
so fucked up. But anyway, you're doing good.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
Justin Yeah, I'm doing great, man, fantastic you know.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Shoe game looking strong as ever in the background.

Speaker 4 (02:40):
You know, hey, man, this is what are those dollars
worth of mistake?

Speaker 5 (02:43):
What are those?

Speaker 1 (02:44):
What are those? Are those threes down low?

Speaker 5 (02:46):
What are those?

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (02:47):
Which those are the Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Those are good from a sneaker heads out there, we
love those, We love those. But first we got to
introduce our guests today. We've got fantastic writers.

Speaker 6 (03:01):
Comedians, performers, scientific explorers if you will. They got a
show on HBO, Max that it's pretty in line with
all of my interests because it's called high science, and
I like science, but I also love high.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
I love high, you know. I think people know that
on this show. I love high. I love to get high,
you know. So it's one of the greatest things ever,
and combining that with science makes it a fantastic show
which is very accessible for people like me who have
an add addle brain. Please welcome to the microphone slash stage,
mister Matt Kleiman and Zach Hello, good to see, nice

(03:38):
to be here.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Yeah, thanks for having us, guys.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Yeah, yeah, I gotta say the show is fucking great man.
I love Like I said, I like science, but I
like high. And you have a show where Paul Bettony
voices a like a sentient bong that helps teach you
about complex scientific concepts. That's pretty much everything I need
in my life. And I'm like, I got to say,

(04:02):
like I was telling you, guys off, Mike, I fuck
with anything Paul Bettany does, mostly because he's an Arsenal
fan like me. That's really I have no really no
idea about his artistic acumen, but just because we fuck
with the same team, I love him. But Yeah, welcome
to the show. Like, how how are how are things
with the both of you? Oh?

Speaker 5 (04:21):
Thank you so much, Thank you so much for digging
the show. Yeah, I mean we made it for yeah,
for people like you, people who just wanted to like
get high and like put something on. Like the The
ideal person watching the show is like you come back
home from a party or something, but you want to
like you're gonna like eat you got like like Jack
in the Box tacos on the way home or something,
and you want to smoke a little bit more and
put something on while you eat them. Yeah, that is

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what we made the show for that exactly.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
That's the best thing that I can recommend for anyone
is something that has a low level of entry, but
then you get fascinated with That is all I needed
was one sentence to jump in headfirst.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Oh yeah, look, this easy sentient teaches people lessons about science.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
What that's that means? Our spirit guide, you know, he
guides us through our Yeah, so we get we get
high on what we're gonna learn that day. So it's
like we get high on Neanderthals, we get high on trees.
And then the rest of the episode is our hallucinogenic
journey learning about these topics from you know, scientists who

(05:24):
are at the top of their game out there were
also you know, hallucinating interviews with them, and the whole
way Doctor O Paul Benny Is is guiding us with
his robot bong geniusness.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
And what's you know, how like, are y'all actual soners
or just really clever creators? I got it?

Speaker 5 (05:40):
Uh yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, yeah, Okay.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
Part of me is like they don't seem high during
this you had the skeptical look in your eye.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
Miles.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
You gotta we have to do super sober for the
shooting of it because we were like we had to
shoot the whole thing in like two days, and it
was like teleprompters and pressure and the whole season.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
And two days.

Speaker 5 (06:02):
Yes, you guys would not like this show is like
the lowest budget, like scrappy thing, Like it's a miracle
that it got made. The whole thing is like hand
crafted and we like tried to make it, you know,
and it's amazing. It's on HBO Max, but like truly, Yeah,
we shot the whole thing in two days on friend.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Of the whole high part and then we had one
half day in the lab, which is where it bookends
the whole experience, right, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
Well this sounds like I my little high self in
the mid two thousands watching Adult Swim when it was
in its heyday. Like it really feels like you captured
the heart of like my what I wanted at that time.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
Amazing. If you with Adult Swim, if you fuck with aquatine,
if you fuck with science like all that, it's it's
all like, it's all very rhetorically related. That's why, Yeah,
I really dig that.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
Yeah, cause it seems like the same people who love
Adult Swim shit also like to put on Planet Earth.
You know what I'm saying. I feel like those things
are definitely like those people are curious about ship in
different ways, but also aligne.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
I brought up Planet Earth, yes and yesterday's episode. That's
how much Planet Earth. It just rings through my skull
because when that DVD set came out.

Speaker 5 (07:08):
In the globe, in the globe, oh.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yeah, high shit. And again I'll keep saying it, my
favorite episode Caves because that intro guy jumps into.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
The pit and just disappears into darkness, and.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
I'll have to say it every time. I just want
to feel that. I don't know why I want to
jump into a void and Vanish I don't know if
that's dangerous or says something about like my you know,
outlook on the earth, But hey, that's my fantasy at
the moment.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
I would love to be in a cave and then
all of a sudden watch it come to life with
like bioluminescence and all these like little creatures who never
see the light of day, but they can go in
the darken. For some reason, I can see them very
clearly and easily.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
I would. Well, Matt Zach, we're going to get to
know you a little bit better. But first let's let's
clue people into what we're going to talk about. Some
serious shit. First, the debt ceiling shit show continues. There
is this fucking stupid ass pantomime. But me and the
Democrats and Republicans are like, oh man, it's gonna fuck
up the economy, but we're gonna do a deal. It's

(08:05):
gonna be catastrophic, don't worry, We're not gonna default. But
if we do, oh shit, it's like it's exhausting and
really all it is is like it's all just a
fucking performative Act just to cut social spending, because this
is what happens every single fucking time. So we'll touch
in on that because it is it is. It is
talked about a lot in the news, but not in

(08:26):
this way that needs to cast a little more, you know,
cynicism on the process. And since we're with some creators,
some people who have made some shows, I think it's
good to talk about just sort of what the writer
lists sort of slates look like for people's entertainment coming up,
because with the writer's strike, guess what, y'all not getting
anything new? So what are the networks doing? They're scraping

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the bottom of the fucking barrel. And we'll talk about
some of those shows as well as like Jimmy Fallon,
like flexing, he was stunting on people about the new
Zelda game. We'll talk about that too because it all
fits in with the strike. And then we'll rap out
because the new Fast and Furious movie is coming out.
We gotta ask, is this going to cause more people

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to drive like they are out their fucking minds? Are
more domb Touretto Wanna Be is gonna hit the road
because apparently there's some some statistics that seem to suggest
that this movie is inspiring some idiotic behavior behind the wheel.
But hey, we'll talk about that and plenty more. But first,
who do we start with, Matt or Zach? I'm gonna

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ask you, what's something from your search history that reveals
a little bit about who you are or what you're into?

Speaker 5 (09:32):
Yeah, Zach, you go, man, you got that.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Yeah. So I've kind of taken over both of our
search histories because last my search history is all poison
IVY treatment based searches. A week and a half ago,
I was shooting a short film in Cape Cod and
it was we were doing a nighttime shot and I
needed to I'm not gonna say exactly what the whole
film is about, but I needed to get a giant

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spoon that was like Technicolor lighting up to lift off
this mound at this Cranberry bog in Cape Cod. And
so I was laying on this mound and it was nighttime,
and I was actually just scared of ticks, right, I
was like tons of ticks around here.

Speaker 5 (10:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
So I laid down a jack and I was like,
this is all good. And then, as you know, I
was down there for like an hour and a half
trying to get this shot to work, and I'm just
laying on the ground. I'm like, you know what to
keep checking. I'm not seeing any ticks. This is awesome, man,
I've avoided all the ticks. And then two days later,
I start to get these little bumps on my arms
and I'm like, wait, what is going on? And then
I was like, did I get a mosquito bite? And

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then I realized that that mound that I was laying
and I had realized this before, like a month ago.
I had tracked it in my brain. I was like,
don't don't forget that mound is covered in poison ivy.
And I realized, oh no, I've covered my arms and
my neck and in poison ivy. And over the plane
ride back to the West Coast, I just started to

(10:54):
like scratch more and like I started to feel it.
And then over the next the course of the week,
I just like, I just got a rash and there's
all over my body and it's been an insane experience,
but I'm finally getting better. And I sent photos to
Matt to tell him about it, and he reacted with horror,
and he also started looking at poison ivy.

Speaker 5 (11:12):
Well, here's here's what I didn't know. I assume like, oh,
poison ivy, like that'll wreck your day or a couple
of days. Poyson ivy last two to three weeks?

Speaker 1 (11:19):
Oh fuck?

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Really?

Speaker 4 (11:20):
Yea?

Speaker 1 (11:21):
It is there a difference between poison ivy and poison oak,
Like is one better?

Speaker 2 (11:25):
They released the same euriscitol. They're eurrishital I can't remember
his pronounce, but they're fine high science. Someone's gonna have
the same oil that is released by all these different
prices and it does the same thing and and that,
and interacting with that can be a two to three
week fuck fest basically for your skins. It also it
like it makes it so that you can when you
just brush against it, you spread the oil arms around

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your skin. It gets all So I ended up getting
it like all replaces that weren't even exposed.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
Yeah, I'm from Illinois. Like we moved to this little town.
After a while, there was just it was covered with
poison ivy. When you wanted to go camping or fishing,
which is new to me. I was like, okay, yeah,
I love the outdoors now. I used to be surrounded
by concrete and pavement and whatnot, And no one told
me about poison oak poison ivy. They literally, weirdly enough,

(12:15):
they told me to watch out for lime disease and ticks,
like that was the biggest thing.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
Horse flies.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Yeah, and I we were just kids. We were rolling
up and down a hill like for hours and hours
and hours. Same exact thing happened to me. But I
got it all in like my inner thigh and I
could not resist scratching and I spread that shit everywhere
it was. It was painful. Yeah, it was like one
of the most painful experiences I've ever went through. And

(12:41):
shortly before that, I had a fishing hook go through
my finger and come out the other side. I would
say poison ivy was slightly because it lasted so long.
But I went back to fishing that afternoon after the
fish hook thing. The poison ivy took me out. I
didn't go outside for like a month.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
I know that I was hearing the other day. I
was like, hey, man, there's this hill, new hill. I
want to roll down. Man to come check it out
with me. You're like no. Never.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
I was like, okay, Ship, you feel like a child. Yeah,
you gotta scope out the hills. Before you roll down them. Yeah,
that's fucked up, man. Yeah, please be careful out there
with the poison ivs and oaks. And then Matt, you
were saying you were also searching because you just in
solid air.

Speaker 5 (13:17):
Do you're like, I got yeah, well, I just wanted
to know how long my friend was gonna be.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
I literally was stopped. I would be like talking to man,
be like, dude, I gotta go, I gotta take a
cold shower or something. Man Like.

Speaker 5 (13:28):
I was like so amped up and I was talking
to I was like, what is going on?

Speaker 1 (13:32):
But I just couldn't stand still picturing picturing you on
a flight as you're like realizing it's getting worse. I
feel like I feel bad for the other passengers too,
who might be like, is this guy? Yeah, it was
definitely like it just keep it cool, just keep it yeah,
Like because you're probably like, don't start scratching, You're just.

Speaker 5 (13:48):
Like, yeah, yeah, obligatory. Sorry this is on a podcast,
but this is the photos extent.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
Oh no that.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Yeah, yeah, I don't.

Speaker 5 (13:58):
Listeners just imagine like blonde red sploshes all over the man.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
That looks so bad. I would wish that on Mitch McConnell.
What's something I think is overrated? Oh, okay, I got
this one.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (14:10):
I don't know. Maybe your audience is like cinophiles and
I'm fucking myself and everyone's gonna but I find, you know,
like cit and Sound, pole top movie. I finally watched
In the Mood for Love. Are you guys familiar with
this movie? In the Mood for Love? It's considered one
of the greatest films of all time, Like it topped
the like cit and Sound like a tour you know

(14:32):
List twenty twelve. I think like it's always in the mix,
like Letterbox people are always talking about In the Mood
for Love is like, actually, this is the greatest film.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Oh this is the Wan Car Why Car Why?

Speaker 5 (14:42):
Yeah, one Car Why in Hong Kong, And this movie
is horribly overrated. It's like the thing is, it is
beautiful and there's like the hallway thing with the music,
like if you've seen it or know it, like that
is great, But the whole movie is just about two
people who should fuck and then they don't fuck, and
that's the whole thing. And you're just like, oh, these

(15:04):
guys should fuck. You're like this is overly romanticized. It's crazy.
It's like these two people whose partners cheat on them
with each other and then they fall in love and
then it's like, okay, yeah, so you guys can do
it too, you should fuck but they don't.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Man, And it's so interesting. You bring this up, Matt,
because I live with my sister. She's you know, the
audience is familiar with her joelmo Nique, amazing film critic,
so it's kind of hard to have an argument with
her about this stuff. So generally I come from a
place of curiosity. I'm like, why is this or why
does this happen? She was watching some melo dramatic thing
the other day and I had the same thing. I

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was like, this was an eight minute conversation about whether
they love each other or not. And I'm like, already
four steps ahead. I'm like, just get to it, you
know what I mean. And she was like yeah, and
she was like, you're missing the point of melo drama.
It's like almost kissing is like the hottest thing, you know,
not like not quite getting there. And I was like,

(16:02):
all right, you know, I it's not for me, but
like I'm I'm trying to appreciate the the art form
a little.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
Blow the slow burn. Yeah, yeah, of will they want
but then you got to get to the burn.

Speaker 5 (16:12):
You gotta get thee yeah yeah, yeah, come on. And
it's just like why didn't they Why why didn't you fuck?
Like you could have fucked. They could have fucked a
bunch of times, and then they don't And it's not
really like it just doesn't. I didn't believe the reason
why they didn't fuck, because people fuck. That's the thing.
The thing I know about people is that when they
want to fuck, they fuck.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
It's okay to spoils for me, what what was the
reason for not fucking?

Speaker 5 (16:33):
There's no reasons.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Yeah, I mean I get it because like for those people,
it's like it's like emotional edging, yes exactly, And you're like, oh,
some of us are Neanderthals, you know for pro magnet man,
where we're like just through the bang or not.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
Yeah. Though they never actually kissed, they would withhold. They
were really good at. Yeah is their thing.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
They invented edging Patrick yea, Yeah, they invented edging as
the first form of birth control.

Speaker 5 (17:04):
People don't know that.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
People really they died off. They didn't approach because they
just thought they were just so big on edging.

Speaker 4 (17:09):
It was makes sense, that's science.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. That's what I'm saying. All right,
Well cool, I like to I'm glad to know, like
sometimes like there are those there are those films, and
I like, I like movies, but not to the point
where like I can connect with sort of those kinds
of films. And that's just me as a consumer. I'm
I'm more of a mouth a gape airplane guy whom
you view ship like that. Sometimes, Yeah, nous movies.

Speaker 5 (17:34):
I loved bo Is Afraid for example, that just came out,
was divisive, incredible film, Like I like that kind of thing.
This one didn't. My wife was asleep like halfway in,
and I was like, yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
I thought there was a time too, like in like
the early aughts where like all my friends who are like,
you know, big cinephiles, like like One Car Why was
just like just beyond repro Like there's like they're like,
don't funk, no, manfucker's a gene dud dude.

Speaker 5 (17:59):
Reproach and proach o.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
Everything is good. Yeah, I mean, you know, twenty forty six,
I fucked with that, you know, I wasn't. I wasn't mad.

Speaker 5 (18:06):
Was that good?

Speaker 1 (18:07):
I mean, I remember at the time. I think I
may have just said it because I was dating somebody
who was like, you need to see this film, and
I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, fuck with that. I have
a bad habit of like being like, yeah, what do
you like? Okay, I'll try that out. Even though I
don't shout out Harry Potter films could only get through one. Okay, Now,
what is something I'll think is underrated?

Speaker 5 (18:27):
Zach, you got a good one.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
I mean, I've just got ivy on the brain and
I just want to say cold showers. I've also been
a huge fan of cold showers. Recently, it's been growing.
I think cold showers are absolutely incredible, wake you up more,
and they kind of like, I think they make you
a better person. I think the longer that you can
say I do, I truly do. I.

Speaker 5 (18:47):
Georgia, you're just saying that people who don't take cold
showers are bad people.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
No, no, no, no, no, say you I'm saying I'm not
saying you're all lower. I'm saying we're all optim to this,
and we can we can optimize ourselves in did you start?
You start with a hot and then you just slowly
towards the end of your shower just start making colder
and colder and colder, and then you get it to
it's really cold, and you just would stand that for
a couple of minutes just that way. So you do that,

(19:10):
You'll like, you'll feel what way better getting out of
the shower. You do it like you do a reverse
frog boil, basically I do. Yeah, that's actually exactly converse
frog boil, and then I get it super cold, and
then by the end, like not only do I feel better,
but you know, my thought, my mirror is less foggy,
Like I can already see myself a little easier, you know,

(19:31):
like everything just kind of goes a little smoother when
you do that.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
I mean, this isn't experience shared by many people. If
you had a fucked up water heater where that ship
might just actually happen during the shower, you're like, oh shit,
it's gone.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Maybe that's how it started for me where I was
missing that. Yeah, I've had Brooklyn apartments that had some
really shitty water situations, and it was like, yeah, you know,
I'm going cold showers because I had to be. But
now it's like, yeah, you know what, Yeah, I love it.
I love that. Okay, cool cool?

Speaker 1 (19:57):
Yeah, I mean I I as much as I've tried
it before, because I remember I've heard the same thing
from like biohacker type people that I had interviewed in
the past. I just can't. I fucking hate Like when
my gas reflex kicks in, it's over. I'm like, yeah,
just you got to just get past that gap. You
get past and then you're and then you're in a
whole new world.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
I'm a heat. I'm a heat in this bro. I
love being comfortable at all. And so when like I
literally I have a little space heater right here, like
next to this shower, I'll get out of the shower
and like turn that space heater on and just stand
in front of oh, like while I'm toweling myself off,
Like yeah, it's incredibly wasteful.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
I've got You don't got the towel heater either, Uh no.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
I don't have a to I really what you changed
the game mentioning the terry cloth. I haven't gotten one
of those yet. Oh yeah, macking it's because I got
that's the next step.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Because when again, like, if you don't like being cold,
just the fucking robe is a whole body towel, so
you don't have to feel all that water evaporating on
your skin and cool off.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
I'm already making the DIY version. I put like four
towels around me, Like, yeah, it's not it's.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
Not an economical What is the robe if not three
and a half to four towers right exactly without the stitching.

Speaker 4 (21:12):
It's out the sewing machine, exactly exactly.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
Matt Kleinman, what about you? You got anything you think
is underrated?

Speaker 2 (21:19):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (21:19):
Yeah, you know so. I'm a big I really like
spicy foods and hot sauces, and I've been talking to
people and like, even people who aren't into that sort
of stuff. I do you feel like people don't know
enough about crystal hot sauce? Whoas? Yes, you're talking about
white people, man, Yeah, that's that's all the rage.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
I'm sorry, I didn't. I didn't mean to come at
you like that. No, great to hear.

Speaker 5 (21:41):
I'm really glad to hear that.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
Well.

Speaker 5 (21:43):
But I would say, even in comparison to Louisiana and
like Texas, Pete is crystal held above them.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
I don't like Texas peats. I have more experience.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
I have more experience in like the Georgia area, Georgia,
Alabama area, and like crystals is huge.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
Okay, yeah, yeah, no, no, I feel like the chain
you mean Crystal hot Sauce. Yeah, Crystal, Oh I thought
you mean crystals that there, because there's also the franchise. Yes,
the chain, yes, yes, exactly.

Speaker 5 (22:08):
Also crystals the rock are great. I love rocks hung general. Yeah,
of course we love crystals. We're all about crystals. But
I feel like people don't know, like you know, I
don't know, it's it's I think it's a good gateway
hot sauce. Is kind of the thing that I've been
like telling people who are like getting into hot sauces
or want to or are like afraid of them. And

(22:28):
like I think Chilula had been the gateway hot sauce
for a lot of people for a while because a
lot of people thought Tabasco is too spicy. But I
actually think Crystal is a better gateway hot sauce for people.
And I think and a lot of this is also
just because like if you know, going over to some house,
are going and they just have nothing, It's like if
at least you have crystal, then we're like, okay, it
works with almost anything.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
Yeah, they have everything, they have every grocery store. But
I think most people are like, I want Tabasco, and
now tabaskets in like nine thousand flavors.

Speaker 5 (22:56):
I'm like, come on, Mountain, Yes, totally. The basket is great,
and I like Tabasco, but I think I don't know.
I want it to be more. It should be more
like the South everywhere. I guess, yeah, that's what I'm saying.
What about sir Racha is that is that falling off?

Speaker 2 (23:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (23:10):
Si Racha had its heyday like in the like the tens,
the teens. I remember shout out my boy Randy wrote
a fucking cookbook.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
I think we all over used it. I think ye
think you're Ryan. It's just I think we just it
was just everywhere, blew it out every meal, and then
like we all just got used to a siracha taste
for all of our cheap meals that we were eating,
and then it was like, I can't do I still
use it just in the context, right, like I love
to make hot I love grilling, I love I love
making wings especially.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
I use it everyday conversation. Shout out to Chicago Bulls fans.
If you're a fan of Stacy King, give me the
hot sauce to Racha, that's his catchphrase. But yeah, other
other than that, yeah, I think it really really, really
really fell off.

Speaker 5 (23:50):
Yeah, yeah, I will say I prefer their garlic paste,
the garlic about the one with like the green like
the little the jar squatty bottle with the green tom
The garlic paste one, I think is a little bit
better flavor wise, and it's less sweet. It's a little
bit more like everything you like and not maybe what
you don't.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
This is my easy hack for wings. You take a
fucking you know, buy your buy your party wings or whatever,
whole wings, but however you like to get down and
marinade them. You know, just what I do is put
them in a ziplock bag, empty a whole bottle of
crystal in it, and you let that go. You let
that sip for a few hours. It like it's not
gonna get too spicy, but it gives it such a

(24:25):
great flavor. It's like my very easy way to have
like good wings that aren't too sort of intensive in
terms of the preparation.

Speaker 5 (24:33):
So well, I think the hack for doing like Nashville Chicken.
You know that sort of thing, is marinating the chicken
in hot sauce before you brett.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Oh yeah, my bed. Yeah, and that like fucking oil
chili concoction that they'll pour over after you're like, yeah,
more of that, more of that. All right, We're gonna
take a quick break and do some light hot sauce
tastings and then we'll be right back to talk about
the dead scene right after. And we're back and just

(25:12):
to talk about some serious business really quick. The debt
ceiling shit shari how Australians would call it. It continues
right now. In the news, we keep hearing about the
looming debt ceialing crisis, that America could default on its
debt and worsen our image to the rest of the world,
especially our trading partners, because they're like, oh, y'all, don't
pay your fucking bills. This would be terrible for the

(25:32):
US economy. And the Republicans know that the super whack
jobs in the GOP are practically salivating for a manufactured
financial crisis to better the party's overall chances in twenty
twenty four, just so they can move on from we
don't believe in human rights or abortion access and just
start saying things like Joe Brandon killed the economy. That's
why you should vote for me a nazi. And Biden

(25:55):
and the Democrats have said that the default will be
a disaster. Same thing for the GOP defaulting would be terrible.
But then Joe Brandon, McCarthy, Mitch McConnell, they are also
saying some form of Oh, we're definitely not gonna default.
There's no way we're gonna default on the dead. No,
we're gonna figure it out. We're gonna make a deal.

(26:15):
We're gonna make a deal. Even though sometimes you hear
before Joe Brandon was a little more confident in his
lack of interest in negotiating, basically saying, why would I negotiate?
This is something, this is like the basic function of government.
We're not gonna use this as leverage to start gut
gutting social social programs. Well, it looks like we may
be there. And this is all very fucking confusing because

(26:37):
you're like, are y' all gonna make a deal or not,
but you're saying you won't, you say you will, and
it's gonna be a crisis. It's like they're both in
on a scheme to make the population sweat over this
crisis that may not be one. But the reality is
here is it looks like the President is going to
negotiate with the GOP, and that is bad since the
GOP's main requests here are making huge cuts to things like,

(27:00):
you know, like Medicare and food stamps, which it seems
like Joe Byron is a little more open to, like
having more strict work requirements for food stamps, which is
terrible and fucked up, while also the other part of
the GOP's requests are they want to completely fuck the
environment over too. They want to cut the tax incentives
for clean energy that came from the Inflation Reduction Act

(27:21):
and replace it with basically fossil fuel hand jobs for all.
So it's like a terrible backward step and you're like,
these are the things you're gonna like what the what
the fuck is this? Like this isn't even a negotiation,
but we see this script all the time that like
replays over and over throughout every administration. Like Republicans are like,

(27:42):
we want to go back to the eighteen hundreds, and
the Democrats like there's no way. We do not negotiate
with this kind of shit. This is not this is
this is beyond the pale. Then the GOP says, then
we will default. We don't give a fuck, watch us,
watch us not give a fuck. We'll completely fuck this
whole thing up. Then the Democrats come to the table
and cut spending and there's more austerity measures that are

(28:02):
just regressive. Then both parties walk out, like they say,
of the fucking day, and life moves on. But it's
it's it's it's a bit of a we'll see where
they end up. Because while there are negotiators now speaking
with McCarthy's deputy, they're like on both parties, whether it's
like the Freedom House, Freedom Caucus, who's like they better
gut fucking everything, or we're not voting for this, and

(28:24):
McCarthy's like, fuck, I don't. I don't know if we
can get all that. In the meantime, there are many
Democrats who are like, do not fuck with these social programs,
like working people need these fucking programs, and to do
this in service of like handouts to the fossil fuel
industry is it a bridge too far? And you know,
like they're like, I'm not gonna support that, so I
don't care what you negotiate, President Biden, it's not happening.

(28:47):
So a bit of a topsy turvy moment.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
But it's just so frustrating because this is not a thing.
Then it became a thing like this debt ceiling thing
was just always like a bipartisan just like, yeah, we
just gotta keep it going because we just gotta that's
not even something to worry about. And then and then
in twenty eleven, it just became like, oh, we can
just kind of hold this as some sort of hostage
sort of situation where we can, you know, just demand

(29:09):
that someone work with us unless this thing that we
all have always agreed upon, like we you know, we
keep it from from happening, from passing. And it's just
like it's just so annoying because we all know, like
it's just like you just this doesn't need to be
a thing. Just keep it going. You're like, and uh,
and yeah, the fact that they're arguing, like we need
to negotiate, we need to do all this stuff, it's like, no,

(29:29):
we know that you could just keep this separate and
then just keep working on all of your other stuff.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
Yeah. I mean again, they're the they're they're the party
of just bad faith everything. So you know, they're basically
you know, you're dealing with just absolute ghouls. We're like,
we don't get fucked like like we've we've invited these
people to the party.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
There's also something to be said to like, once once
you're in like a certain class, like your job has
a certain level of prestige and a certain salary to it,
there's this level of self importance that comes with it.
And especially when it comes to politicians, they know they're
not going to be affected by anything that goes sideways,
like and so it's doubly fucked up for them to

(30:10):
like dangle this little thing like you know how dangerous
this can be for y'all right, I mean, I'm doing
my best here, but I don't know.

Speaker 6 (30:17):
Man.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
That really raises the anxiety amongst like people everyday people,
every single day, and it's like they cannot it doesn't
matter to them, It will never matter to them. And
that's what's I think where a lot of the apathy
comes from is because you see another human being so
dismissive of like most of the country, and your heart

(30:39):
kind of just wants to believe that people couldn't do that,
and they do it every time. Like you said, this
has become a pattern when it didn't used to be.
And it seems like there's no break system on this,
Like it's only going to get more manipulative and more insidious.
And I'm wondering where we go from here, you know.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
Yeah, I mean there is you know, like there are
things that the president could do that are kind of
you know, revolutionary, like or not revolute, but like, you know, different,
like you know, evoking the fourteenth Amendment to sort of
be like, no, I am going to make sure like
all of this ship's paid. There's been talk of like
printing more money, when I'm.

Speaker 5 (31:15):
Like, what's meaning the coin?

Speaker 1 (31:18):
We don't need to do that.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
And so whenever they start getting into making more money
and coins, I'm always like, I feel like that's not
gonna be.

Speaker 5 (31:24):
What wouldn't you want to hold the trillion dollar coin?

Speaker 2 (31:27):
Right?

Speaker 5 (31:28):
Pic?

Speaker 1 (31:28):
You want to have trill coin?

Speaker 3 (31:30):
But also does Biden seem like the kind of person
who's gonna do something different? Like no, I'm like, so
what like with anything?

Speaker 1 (31:37):
Ever, He's presided over this exact scenario many times. Himself already,
you know, and been on this, on it, on the
side of it as a senator, as a vice president,
and now as president. There's not they know because again
like at the end of the day, they're like, yeah, man,
I mean like I was just increasing food stamps as
like a campaign platform thing. We can dial that ship back,

(31:57):
but like here when we do that, like nobody's gonna
know because sadly, to your point, justin the people who
depend on it sometimes like the apathy rings through to
the point that they are like, you're not even aware
of the ship that's going on, because it's like, who
gives a fuck man, all they need to do is
fuck us over anyway. Why don't need to be engaged
with this shit? So it's you know, mix makes me
even more cynical when I look at it, because the

(32:19):
double speakers just like absurd, like it's it's it's happening
or it's not. You're negotiating or you're not. But you
guys are just saying this out loud while like winking
to each other like you no, we'll make it work.
We'll make it work. It just helps, it just helps
both of our collective audiences seem like, you know, we're
doing the fight, rolling our sleeves up and ship. All right, well,
let's let's move on to some people who aren't able

(32:40):
to roll up their sleeves because they're on strike.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
The writers.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
Yeah, yeah, the w GA is on strike. You know, obviously,
fuck these man Fuck these streamers, especially man like who
want to fuck around. I mean, obviously, look y'all shows
on streaming now work. I'm gonna come not to catch
this persons on your play, but you know what, you
know what to do with these royalties. Man, stop acting
brand new about this ship because people are watching it.
And again, this is a very very interesting moment, I think,

(33:05):
especially as it relates to AI and things like that.
While I see like I've been seeing like counter opinion
pieces written about they're like the writers are being completely
overblown with their fear of AI, and it's like, really, now,
I don't think so. I think it's very much a
thing and and potentially like one of the first groups
of workers who are like, we should be able to

(33:26):
decide when you like, deploy this technology that could completely
fuck up our industry and our ability to support ourselves
because you just loaded a prompted a chat GPT and
now you've got a whole franchise about talking Mason Jars
or some shit.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (33:38):
I mean that was so like so, I mean, so
Zach and I are both WJA, we're both on strike
right now. Yeah, but like stoked to be doing this,
to finally be standing up to these things. But the
AI thing, like literally that was put in if you
track kind of the new it's because like AI was
kind of in the news when the negotiation started, and
enough people were kind of talking about it, and so
I think they threw it in, not quite as a lark,

(33:59):
but as just to like, hey, okay, we'll address the
AI thing. We'll put it in our pattern of demands
that like no AI, but this is like an easy
gimme for the producers to just be like, of course, yeah, guys.
I think what freaked everyone out was that they did
not immediately be like of course. They instead were like, whoa, whoa, let's.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
Let's revisit it. Let's put a pin in and just
see how bad AI fox things up, and then we offer.

Speaker 5 (34:21):
Yearly meet it. It was like, so I think that
then got everybody like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. Yeah, Well,
hold on a second.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
Yeah, people had also started to see in their contracts
little things like that the AI that their whatever uber
corporation above them is working on like has like can
review their material. So it's almost like it's also also
quick permission that are you that our AI can read
your script or whatever and kind of learn your voice

(34:48):
a little bit just for you know, its own intensive
learning purposes, not for anything, you know, not for anything
negative towards you or anything like that. And it's like,
wait a second, who WHOA WHOA? Like now now AI
is studying our different our creative process, our voice and
like the things that we're making and learning that like
it's I mean, the thing is A is going to
affect every single job that there is in a in

(35:08):
a way like where there's like this is going to
be like the Internet and how it changes things. Absolutely
we can't even comprehend how it's going to affect all
of our jobs, all of the things that we interact
with in technology, and so I think it's incredibly important
for creative people, like creative places to also try to
get ahead of it in whatever way they can so
that doesn't screw us down the line. And it's too

(35:30):
late to have any sort of like chat about it,
even though we don't really know exactly what it means
right now.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
Right it's a while, Like you not being able to
control your own voice and artistic integrity is something that
is like, you know, that's a spirit killer. Like there
is someone I really admire and appreciate who works for
a company that on the low, that guy's company took
a lot of his voice and a lot of his
mannerisms and like ran it through AI software and tried

(35:56):
to see if they could like replace him in something
without his knowledge, right, And he was like and then
he was able to make a video about it under
the company's like Moniker Like he's like still releasing videos,
but he's like, hey, my company tried to do this.
I'm just I'm just saying, you know. And it's and
this was, you know, a YouTube internet thing. So there's
no WGA or anything involved in this, but it's affecting everyone.

Speaker 4 (36:20):
Down the line.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
It's only a matter of time if you're especially in
a creative industry. It's it's scary, it's scary.

Speaker 5 (36:26):
It's also it's just like a level of respect like
for people that you work with, Like I think that's
the other thing that it's like we've already we already
get like a lot of disrespect from like produced, you know,
from like from these companies or whatever, like not respecting
what we do, not really knowing what we do, but
being like you know, thinking they can just kind of
push it around, thinking they can kind of dictate and
know better than us how many people should be in

(36:46):
a room.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
I can't three people write an entire season of a
show in two weeks, right, no, exactly, and.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Then we'll greenlight it. Okay, we just got to see
the whole show first, you gotta understand, and then we'll
give it a green light.

Speaker 5 (36:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's just not it's so it's a
level of respect. And then so the a I think
it's in a way it's like to even ask is
like disrespectful, like you know, to even and then let
alone to like do those kinds, you know, to really
try to replicate one of your colleagues, someone that you're
working with, somebody who's the whole point. We make the
things that these companies put out, like we are the product.

(37:18):
We make the products for them, and so like it's
our companies too. In those you know, it's our products in.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
Those creative labor that enables them to have these obscene
payouts and all this other crap so they can go
yacht it up wherever the fuck they are right now.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
Yeah, and the guy I mentioned didn't even seem to
be shit talking his company, Like I said, the company
let him release the video like on their channel, and
it seemed like it was more.

Speaker 4 (37:39):
Of like a oh, we did this, my bad, like
we didn't know you would care.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
And that's also very scary, like like why wouldn't you
consider me in this? Like why wouldn't you think I
would care? You know, it's it's wild.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
Well, we're beginning to see what happens when the workers
go on strike because their labor is being exploited over
and over again by group of fucking creeps that you know,
they're like, look, you know, we know our pattern is
to cut costs at any measure, and you know, AI
seems like a great way to do that. Anyway. We're
looking at some of the upfronts, some of the slates

(38:12):
that some of the networks, you know, they like to
present to advertisers. Here are the things that you could
advertise on coming up this fall like get to get
you excited, to get your ad dollars, which again that's
you know, the bread and butter of the ad based
broadcast television industry. So we're seeing things like what they're
doing now that there are no writers contributing to make
new material. Fox they didn't release their full schedule, but

(38:35):
they announced their slate, which features mostly unscripted shows, because
that's the way around this is to just go just
to lean into reality shows. The reason we have Cops
that the TV show is because of the like the
writers striking the eighties that they're like, oh, fuck it,
then we'll just follow cops around with cameras and that's
a show. We don't need writers. So they're like they
got their show. They're renewed Farmer Wants a Wife, Special Forces,

(38:58):
and a new game show called ake Oil hosted by
David Spade, which I'm like, is he just gonna improv
up there? Like is someone writing, like who's writing this
game show? But again that they'll figure out ways to
like maybe put them on like a creative producer who's.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
Like, yeah, creative consultants.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
Yeah, yeah, they just scab it up that way, because
someone is going to have to write it and ABC
also then they said we got a jaw dropper of
the schedule. They unveiled it. It's comprised entirely of unscripted shows,
with the exception of a pair of Abbott Elementary reruns
on Wednesday. That's it. They're like, fuck, man, at least

(39:36):
we got that show. But I guess we'll just do
reruns and put like not listen to the people that
make the fucking hit show that are giving you all
this whatever. And it sounds like this is from tv
line says and what can only be viewed as a
foreboding sign about the potential duration of the current writers strike,
the network's fall schedule. Fall schedule is compromised entirely of
unscripted fair and the lineup includes More America's Funniest Home Videos,

(39:58):
American Idol, Shark Tank, and the show nine to one
one which Fox dropped, and several Bachelor shows, including the
brand new Golden Bachelor, which isn't about people that are
like piss free, it's about it's about the senior citizen
season of The Bachelor, which we know about.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
We were talking about that briefly. I'm excited for that one.
I think that yeah, actually of all, but you know,
older people are more real, So honestly, I could just
see it just being way more like, yeah, let's go
for it, Like.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
Yeah, people who are in touch with their mortality make
way better contestants on game shops.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
Absolutely.

Speaker 4 (40:31):
Yeah, and unlike in the mood for love, they will
fuck in the end.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
Yeah, they're probably gonna look for every opportunity on the
to go when.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
They go to fantasy suites when they all man, you know,
one of them may come out in a wheelchair just because.

Speaker 5 (40:45):
They're like instead of at the bottom, like what their
occupation is, it's like how many years they probably have
left a list?

Speaker 1 (40:50):
Yeah, it's like Walt twenty twenty years at best. It's
twenty years at best.

Speaker 5 (40:58):
The stakes are higher than Yeah, well, it's like the
thing you see even.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
On like Love is Blind on Netflix, Like a lot
of the couples like Crash and Burn because you have
like cloud chasing young people who like also don't feel
like the creeping of time to be like, am I
gonna die alone?

Speaker 5 (41:13):
No?

Speaker 1 (41:14):
Surely not, So give me the Golden Bachelor please. But again,
this is sort of like where they're at. They're just
gonna lean into more of the unscripted shit as a
way to try and be like, well, we don't need you.
Guess what assholes you do?

Speaker 5 (41:28):
This is what kills me though. I mean so like
and I feel like you guys probably were you know,
like the wet we Zach and I like we like
worked with Funnier and to eye, we worked at the Onion,
We worked in like website internet land and we know
how this plays out, yeah, which is that ultimately, like
the social media tech companies have figured out a non
union way of making what they call content, right, you know,
TikTok YouTube, like these things which and there are on

(41:49):
these platforms. Yeah right, sure, and there's good things, but
we're all trying to survive and basically the remnants of
like the apocalypse that happened to institution website based internet.
Yeah right, we're all scrambling and scratching trying to survive
because that was destroyed by this like race to the
bottom that algorithmically based like video production whatever. These these

(42:10):
companies Facebook, YouTube, what good you know that they did?
And the truth is those are the enemies of both
the AMPTP, the producers and studios and the writers guild.
Like if we're we're fighting among ourselves right now. But
what's happening is when there's not good quality television, not
good quality scripted work on TV, people are switching over
to their phone. Yep, they're gonna just start getting addicted

(42:30):
to the algorithms that are you know, made by our
like adversarial company countries. They're gonna switch over to those
things because they're literally crack and they're not gonna come back,
and then we're gonna just like slowly lose everything, right, absolutely, right,
that's crazy.

Speaker 4 (42:43):
That was my first thought.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
I mean, this lineup sounds like they've given up on
trying to appeal to anyone under the age of forty,
so they like, where are those people gonna go? They're not,
you know, it's and I think they feel like they've
already lost the like culture war in terms of like
you know, prestige TV and stuff like that. Age is
a little bit over. Everyone's watching so many different things.

(43:04):
You know, you might have someone who like, even like
a show like Secession that seems to be ubiquitous, Like
I haven't seen a single episode, and we talked about
this show so much that I know so much about it,
But it's like, you.

Speaker 4 (43:16):
Know, I can't. I can't.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
I can't figure out how you do that for reality
television for people who aren't already like wholly in that
universe like Miles. You know, yeah, it's not really in
my bubble, so I don't. They're not appealing to me
and they're not trying.

Speaker 4 (43:32):
Yeah, and it's like how are you?

Speaker 3 (43:34):
And that also leaves jobs on the on the table
for people who maybe could write some scripted television that
I would love to see and it's just not being produced.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
Nah. Well again, I mean like like everything is just
been about how do we squeeze the most out of world?
It's like every it's again, this is like just it's
just a perfect example of happening everywhere, which is how
can we get the most out of the labor of
these workers for as little money as possible and keep
them in a desperate situation so all they can do
is accept the raw deal that we're giving them, and

(44:05):
really the only way is through collective action. So shout
out to the union for fucking striking, because it is
it's doing something.

Speaker 5 (44:11):
It's true, And I do want to say, I mean,
like so this our show High Science, we were really
proud to unionize the show. It was actually the first
Discovery Channel show that's ever been WGA. What they told us, yeah,
because they had just bought HBO when it happened, and
normally Discovery is all unscripted all like that kind of stuff.
But we were like, we're WJ writers, like this is
going to be a scripted show. Discovery had just bought HBO,

(44:34):
Max and all those things, and we kind of made
the case like you're going to have to start doing
union stuff. We went back and forth a few times.
We were on that point of like will we walk
away from this show that we've been trying to make
for years, right, like if it wasn't doesn't go union?
And then they let us do it WGA, which was amazing.
And the other thing is like the people at these networks,
like the people that we worked with who fought for

(44:55):
our show over there are execs, Like a lot of
people fought for our show on that side too, and
like it's great to collaborate with those people. And I
know a lot of those people also just want the
best deal for all of us, right because they want
to keep making TV too. They love television. It's also
their job to make television and try to make the
best shit for everybody. They want this to happen too,

(45:16):
And the sooner we all just come together and make
this something that we can all do like and live
at the sooner we can start making dope shit that
gets people away from the fucking crack like of the
fucking algorithm screens and watching cool shit again.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
Yeah, exactly, and I mean like, and part of this
too is like as the strike's going on, you know
Jimmy Fallon, who's just like had gaff after gaff since
the strike began, whether like being asked like, hey, are
you painting right, He's like, I don't, I don't know,
Oh yeah, okay, I'll do it, like for another couple
of weeks or like this another two weeks. He's reportedly
going to be the first late night show to stop
paying its crew as the writer's strike continues, according to

(45:51):
one of the employees, Nbcason calling it a layoff or furlough,
but rather an unpaid leave of absence. Hopefully that doesn't sting,
but basically it's the same thing because you're not getting
your check. The last check you're getting is coming next week,
and deal with it. Colbert Kimmel Myers, They're all reportedly
continuing to keep their staff paid. We'll see how long

(46:12):
that lasts. But the same day this report dropped about
Fallon and like not paying the staff, he joins blue Sky,
the new you know Twitter clone, and you know he's
like may people that like, oh, maybe he'll address the
concerns of this sort of note. Wait, he just posted
about how you got the new Zelda game on switch?
Like the most empty posted him I holding the switch up,

(46:34):
like yeah, I got the Zelda. Naturally, most of the
responses were like he was just getting brigaded in the
comments of like, hey, your fucking staff, you fucking clown,
rather than stunting like with a debt with your dead
eyes being like that new Zelda, That's.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
What I'm doing.

Speaker 3 (46:51):
I feel like Jimmy Fallon is the kind of guy
who just ends up in spaces and goes along with
whatever is happening in the room at the moment, because
he's just kind of like the aloof like aw shuck's
silly white guy and he's supposed to be. You know,
he's like used to people treating him like he's a
golden retriever. So he's extra confused when people don't like
something he did or didn't do, like the incident where
he tussles Trump's hair and then he's like what would

(47:13):
I do?

Speaker 4 (47:14):
Like I'm so what happened?

Speaker 1 (47:15):
Or the terrible bored ape.

Speaker 3 (47:17):
Yeah, this happens time and time again. I really just
think he's like everyone really likes me, right, and then
people will be like, well, no, not this thing, and
he's like what why?

Speaker 4 (47:29):
And I can't help you?

Speaker 2 (47:31):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (47:31):
Yeah, you from education, you breaking character and laughing on
SNL only got you a few years of endearment. Man. Yeah,
like it ends. It ends after a while. But yeah,
like after that, many people, like one person posted, wow, cool, dude,
maybe you can build something that pays your staff since
you see him unwilling to, and yeah, pretty much all

(47:52):
the comments are like pay your fucking writers. And then
someone on Twitter at Undefeated Matt treated to say, if
you have Blue Sky account, we're pulling Jimmy Fallon over there.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
Okay, So I I was a writer of the Tonight
Show for a couple of years, and I have to
I don't know what's going on there now, but I
do know that when the pandemic happened. I wasn't there
when the pandemic happened, but that Jimmy out of his
pocket paid everybody for a couple of months at least,
So I lot of me that he has done that
stuff before. I don't know what's going on now, but

(48:25):
like he has, he has reached into his pockets before
and paid people for a while without life, and shit's
going down. The only hope that he continues or whatever.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
But yeah, and look, I you know, shout out to
your good your good ex employee for sticking enough. I
think the issue the issue though, I think just perceptually
right in our Yeah, yeah, no, And I know what
you mean because like Gordon did it, many other people
did it as they should because they're millionaires and they
get paid millions of dollars. And you again, they're not

(48:58):
where they are. The hosts of these shows are not
where they are without their staffs, especially their writing staff.
They're monologue ms.

Speaker 2 (49:03):
I mean no, And I know, like I know tons
of people on the staff, and like there are people
there's like you know, costume designers and set makers who
are worried about paying their mortgage. Yeah, you know, and
it's like it's very real, very immediately for hundreds of
people who aren't writers. Like that's and that's like one
of the one of the crazy things that we have

(49:24):
to do when we go on strike is we are
doing it knowing that we are affecting the jobs of
assistants who are being let go, like you know, so
like so many people crews everywhere, So many people are
being affected by this who didn't have a say, who
didn't have a vote, and like that weighs heavily on
all of our all of our minds, and so it's
like that's why we just want this shit to like

(49:45):
get fixed as soon as possible, because we want not
just us to go back to work, we want everyone
to go back to work, and like and and yeah,
I don't know it's but I think that's why there's
so much solidarity with the WGA, because like other you know,
like the team Stirs or IATZI, which is another for
peop who aren't aware of like at show business, like
another major union in the film industry. Like they're like, yeah, man,
because if you guys get it right, like that only

(50:06):
increases our chances to better our situation as well. But yeah, yeah,
and SAG AFTRA they're starting, they're talking about going on strike. Now.
I mean that's it's always been where the Writers Guild
we we like they start it, and then other groups
that just may not be as collectively unified will like
then be like, okay, we can get behind this too. Yeah,
like yeah, this we're gonna start with the Writers Guild though, absolutely,

(50:28):
because they're.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
Like, wait, I want yeah, I should get residuals to
as a fucking performer.

Speaker 5 (50:32):
One.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
I also got to say, this is the first, like
since I've joined the Writers Guild. I've been a member
for like five six years now, this is the first
big strike I've been a part of. And you guys,
like when you're in the Writer's Guild and they're going
on strikes, the speeches are so good that are like
getting you pumped to go on strike. I mean they're
just like we have been down here as rats in

(50:53):
the ground, and now it's time to come together, and
you're just like, oh my god, yes, yes, strike. That's incredible.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
Yeah. I mean Adam Conover like had a very fantastic
sort of sound bite at the beginning of it, which
I think captured the imagination of many people were like, yeah,
man like fuck yeah, like try and do something, and
you're in a situation to do it to better the
situation that we're seeing where again, everywhere you look, labor
is being exploited and all of the wealth is being
concentrated at the top with no regard for the people

(51:22):
that are actually creating.

Speaker 5 (51:24):
That's what I'm stoked about too, and like speaking to
the solid air of the other unions, like but like
I was out pickning yesterday and there was like nurses
on the line with it. Like it feels like also
just in general, this wave of like labor in America
finally coming like finally people being like.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
Oh wait, that's right.

Speaker 5 (51:40):
That's why things were better for like the middle class
like yeah thirty years ago, because we like fought to
make it better, right I mean, and like people finally
coming together to like do that. I grew up in
the valley, the San Fernando Valley is a kid. So
many people who worked in the industry, like that's where
they settled, right, Like it's because like you didn't have
the money to like live in Beverly Hills, like crew
writers be like that they settled in the same f

(52:00):
Nando Valley and there were people who, like I had
friends whose parents had a very perfectly middle class life
in the eighties and nineties just from like writing on
one show and being able to do that, and that
was affording them things like home ownership and other things,
paying for college, and it wasn't like, oh, man, like
this thing ends and then like they're not actually like
the pay is terrible and there's no better. Like it's

(52:22):
it's so different, and I think every person can speak
to their industry like it wasn't like this thirty years ago,
like you could fucking live off this shit. But you know,
these hyper capitalists have figured it out by saying, what
if we just took all the money and didn't share it?

Speaker 1 (52:37):
So yeah, obviously all of our support is with the
WGA right now because it's absolutely imperative, and like I said,
I mean, podcasting absolutely needs to. I mean like we're
seeing it like places here, like iHeart is like in
the Union talks because many, yeah, many, like many industries
are experiencing this thing where it's like, well, you're you're

(52:57):
selling all these ads against our war, but where is
the proper you know, distribution of all that, because again,
it looks like it's just shot up to the top,
and then everyone's like, Okay, what's the how's the stock price?
All right, let's take a quick break and we'll come
back just to wrap it out with some movie talk
after this and we're back, look over your shoulder if

(53:27):
you're driving, please because people might be driving like straight
up assholes, because a new Fast and Furious movie is out.
Fast X is coming out today this weekend. It's out there.
People are I don't know, they're probably has anyone ever
not liked to Fast and Furious because like it's not
like you're there for the the mellow drama, will they

(53:48):
won't they You're there for the fucking just obscene like
vehicular porno that.

Speaker 4 (53:53):
Is drift has its haters, but.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
Oh yeah yeah yeah people hate that.

Speaker 5 (53:57):
That would be the one car WI version, right is
like the movie is like, are they going to drive
the car?

Speaker 2 (54:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (54:02):
Yeah, drive the car.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
Just drive.

Speaker 5 (54:04):
He's just almost like, I don't know, no, just I'm
in the mood to drive the car.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
What was the car now? Was it Hans car or
one in Fast Furious? Too too Fast, too Furious.

Speaker 3 (54:17):
I remember Little bow Wow's character had had a hulk
like Scion XB I remember and.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
I remember that was like Devin Aoki was in everything,
but yeah, yeah, if he had acting skills or not.
There Yo, that Steve sit.

Speaker 4 (54:32):
In here Nepple baby, we love you.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
Oh for people don't know her and Steve Aoki's dad
started Ben.

Speaker 3 (54:38):
Yeah yeah but what yeah, oh my god, Rocky, Yeah
I did not know that. Yeah, yeah, I remember Dom
shows up at the end, his car is in there.
I don't know what the car was in that one.
I'd have to go back and watch.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
Anyway, we digress, because again, this is about people's safety.
That's what this show is about, first and foremost. And
and you know, we've come a really long way, you know,
from this from a movie franchise that began merely with
this simple story about stealing soon to be worthless DVD players.
And look at where we're at. We're at the fucking
tenth one. The question is now, will Fast ten usher

(55:17):
in a wave of people driving like absolute maniacos. There's
been a lot of suggestions that the Fast and Furious
movies influence people's behavior. So when the first film came
out way back in two thousand and one, there were
reports of quote increase in street racing in Los Angeles.
This is the headline that, like I said, Fast and
Furious fuels increase in street racing. But even that article,

(55:40):
as you read it, they admit that the street races
occurred the first weekend the movie came out, which is
not really enough time to be like, yeah, we're gonna
organize mass street races because we're inspired by this and
ours article also says a that street racing raids are
regular for the LAPD. Street racing has been around since
time immemorial, so like.

Speaker 4 (55:58):
These are forties or something in La specifically, come on,
we saw grease.

Speaker 5 (56:02):
They were racing La high Man. What the fuck was that?

Speaker 1 (56:05):
And also secondly, the cops operation was quote explicitly time
to coincide with the release of the movie, so it's
like copaganda in a way. They're like, oh, yeah, we're
on our ship man because you know, these fast and
furious freaks to the headlines.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
Let's go get it. It'll be viral exactly.

Speaker 5 (56:21):
We've got a movie tie in.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
Yeah, this is great.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
Yeah, it'll movie tie in for a homeless encampment sweeps.
I don't know how we're gonna tie it in, but
we're like, yeah, man, we had to you saw Fast
and Furious.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
Is there a Fluster movie about camping coming out soon?
We could probably tie it in.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
Yeah, right, right exactly, So the movie didn't. If anything,
the movie inspired the raids, not the fucking racing. When
the sequel came out, some people even blamed a string
of deaths around the country on Too Fast, Too Furious. Uh,
the studio was like, this is very odd cause and
effect that you're bringing up. They bring up the case
of William Lakhass junior had quote just pulled out of

(56:58):
a gas station and his mother corvette when two cars
zipped by and flashed their hazard lights of the seventeen
year old in a challenge to race like pass Forward Florida.
Moments later, he crashed into a concrete light pull and
was killed. And then they said, another victim in a
string of deaths around the country. So they said this
is all to blame on two Fast, Too Furious, a
movie about street racers that hit theaters three weeks ago.

(57:19):
But again, like you said, this has been around forever.

Speaker 3 (57:23):
Yeah, And also I think nowadays, if you are gonna
ask like a young person who just got their driver's
license and maybe has access to a cool car or
something like where they learned how to like participate in
takeovers or shutdowns or side shows or whatever.

Speaker 4 (57:41):
It's probably TikTok. I'm not gonna lie you.

Speaker 3 (57:43):
I'll spend hours and hours and hours on Instagram and
TikTok just looking at the insanity of people just like
shooting fireworks at cops who will just sit there and
do nothing and just let them fuck around in an
interception for forty minutes, just like waving guns at each
other and stuff. I love the chaos, but it's obviously
not safe and there's people who don't know what they're doing.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
So you see the one where they shut down the
Golden Gate Bridge, Yes.

Speaker 4 (58:07):
Bro, and they have the drone footage from there is amazing.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (58:11):
I was like this furious, Yeah, put this in fast
and furious, not the other way.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
What we need to do is we need to unite
the street Racers and the Writers Guild of America for
some real disruptive kind of demonstrations, you know what I mean.
I'll be like, yo, we fuck with you man, and
like we look we're down to like we're down to
maybe figure out some content.

Speaker 3 (58:30):
Here we hang out the side of a charger with
a fucking strike post like yeah, and bumping some big.

Speaker 1 (58:36):
Put it onfucking two wheels on its side, and you're
scraping the ground with the picket sign like.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
Just like paper mache scripts on the cars.

Speaker 5 (58:44):
So just kind of ye, it looks like getting out
on the picket line. It's just all about honking, Yes,
just like honk. That's a huge part of the street.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
What about what about that ship that burt I'm sorry,
I get to fucking sidetrack, but I saw it like
outside of Warner Brothers, like honking is illegal, Like you're
trying to make it seem like you can't honk. And
then the mayor of Burbank was like, nam man, y'all
fucking honk? I don't know.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
Fuck yeah, honk illgal, Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 5 (59:08):
There's this whole button in the middle of your fucking
steering wheel that was made to support union.

Speaker 1 (59:12):
Use the buta on that ship. And also shout out
to the people in other cities where productions are happening
that are also getting their shit together to shut down productions,
because that's that's one of the things that a lot
of studios are trying to do, is like maybe we
can absconde back to Georgia. But it's like, no, think
they're starting to figure all out and like sending out
fake call sheets and stuff. It's a whole like information
war happening with like you know, shutting these sets down.

(59:33):
But we digress back to The Fast and the Furious.
Whether or not the movies actually led to more street
racing or not. Researchers they they did their best, and
they said they could find a loose link between the
releases of Fast and the Furious and increases in speeding violations,
not necessarily you know, fucking racing, basically saying like, you know,

(59:54):
people got too hopped up on watching dom Toretto and
his charger, so you know, they left the theater in
their fucking cam reacting like they had nitrous shit like
in there and trying to hit the switches. The study,
which even their authors admit it's like limited, but they
analyzed traffic violations in Maryland, found a large increase in
the average speed of drivers who received speeding tickets on
the weekends after Fashion and Furious releases, and the percentage

(01:00:18):
of people nailed for extreme speeding, which is like forty
miles over the limit nearly doubled. It's like, oh, they
juxtaposed that when a Hunger Games movie came out didn't
go up, so they're like, I mean there might be something.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
Yeah, but more people became archers when games. A lot
of bow and arrow accidents like that increased huge, like
archery schools. Yeah, absolutely, Like it was a huge trend
in kids taking archery from Hunger Games. So movies totally
affect what you want to do and like and do stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:00:48):
Yeah, absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
Queen's Gambit guys, remember that I wanted to play chess
so bad when that show came out. So yeah, I
totally understand watching a car movie and being like, man,
I want to fucking drive oh fast.

Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
I mean I was already I remember playing like on
PlayStation or maybe just put PlayStation two. There's a game
called Midnight Club that was like a street racing game,
and I was totally into that shit. Then Fast and
Furious came out and I was like, oh, I'm really
into this game, and then Need for Speed started changing
all theirs. They started switching it up anyway. I'm like,
I'm like an old video game head number man. Remember

(01:01:20):
that Need for Speed that had the Yin Yang Twins
song when you loaded.

Speaker 4 (01:01:23):
Up midnight club Dub edition. You remember that edition?

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
Maned to go to best show.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
I didn't play the other one.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
Yeah, I used to go to a lot of dub shows,
especially when I worked in radio anyway. So again, the
researchers conceded that it doesn't obviously suggest cause and effect,
but that there was some kind of link there somewhere there.
But you know, like it's probably more so that, like,
if you're into driving fast, you're probably going to go
see Fast and Furious because you're getting your jolly's like that.

(01:01:50):
But one measurable nuisance that is caused by the film
are for the residents of this very quaint neighborhood just
west of downtown where Domto lifts, okay, and the people
live that that live there. They've been complaining regularly about
fans racing and doing donuts in the neighborhood nearly every night.

(01:02:11):
That they protested the filming of the film because they're like,
you're fucking up our neighborhood, Zach. Do you know any
Are you familiar with anybody who lives in that party have?

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
Yeah, man night, we have like four friends who live
within blocks of that spot, and they have said that, Yeah,
they're like, yeah, the one thing, it's a cool neighborhood,
we like it. The one thing is, you know, it's
the Don Turetto spot, So you know, there's just always
car every The main thing that people do is show
up with their cool car and just stop traffic to

(01:02:39):
take a photo of it, like on the So it's
just like constant traffic jams of people in line to
take a photo of their car in the middle of
the street and then nighttime race their car down the
street because it feels also like fast and furious. So yes,
it's a huge I can absolutely attest that that is
a problem that's happening year round for them.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
Of the people who live near there, it's always funny
like people who live near those like a home like
that whose exterior served as like an iconic film or
TV moment, like the people who absolutely like want to
fuck up, like the visitors to the Walter White House
in New Mexico, like how they.

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
Just throw pizzas on it, like oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
But like the owners of the house are like militant
noth like, get.

Speaker 5 (01:03:22):
The fuck away from this fucking house.

Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
They're like, we get that it was Walter White's house
and yeah, the love of just being family, you know,
over there and cracking a brew open, which is also
really interesting. The film also has a huge effect on
beer sales, Like, while Corona did not pay to have
their product featured in the films, the franchise like the
people who make the movie, they're like, all in all told,

(01:03:46):
we've gave them about fifteen million in free advertising when
you really add it up, and like one of the
producers like, why don't I have that shit just delivered
to me on the fucking daily. I bet that was
probably like a really low energy wave for them to
be like, this is how we're going to get fucking
Corona free for life.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
Cut to you've got to drop that fact if you've
got that fast and they're like, you know, are helping
out Corona for a long time. Do you guys think
that white tank tops sell better when fast and Furious
movies come out like the Don Touretto.

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
Probably, I'd imagine if you're bald, you buying, you're buying
a white tank and you may be.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
Doing Yeah, it's a good reminder for bald men to
go pick up a new white.

Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
You oh yeah, I mean like every time comes I
shaved my head, reshave it, but get it looking good.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
Bald man's confidence goes up three D whenever there's a
near fast and yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
How many how many bald men in white tank talks
are this is they think? How many bald men in
white tank tops are getting in car accidents after fast
and furious that's we need? And how many of them
are increasing in how much they much they mentioned family,
Like I've been like mentioning family more.

Speaker 4 (01:04:48):
You been asking the right questions.

Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
Yeah, I'm certain you know I pulled you over family?

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
What?

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
Yeah, I know, get out of the car. Get out
of the car, you fucking touretto on it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
Our twentieth bald man in a white tank tops that
we've arrested today.

Speaker 5 (01:05:05):
Uh, just all the mug shots the week after.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, because like, okay, this is interesting. We
got to look at all the states that have public
mug shots and after a pastor how many tank top
bald guys are we going to see? They're just like
all like like.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
Yeah, all their mouths are in the they're saying family.
You can see, like I think if we like show
the dugshots they're saying the word family.

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
Yeah, oh man, so uh yeah, I mean shout out
to all of you getting fast and or furious, but
please do it safely and you know, please wear white
tank tops responsibly. Uh, Zach, Matt, thank you so much
for joining us on the daily Zeitgeist. Where can people
find you? Follow you and obviously catch High Science?

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
Oh yeah, well watch High Science on HBO Max or
Discovery Plus or Max now that it's all becoming Max. Yeah,
we're gonna be on Max, so check that out. You
can find me on Instaga at z Poytress or on
Twitter at big Zach Poitris.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
Oh okay, big Zach.

Speaker 5 (01:06:05):
Yeah, I guess I'm my Twitter is the one that
I stare at more than the other ones, and I'm
at Matt Kleinman.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
But how you spell that? Man? You spelling that?

Speaker 5 (01:06:12):
Oh right? Ka l I m m an no e
that he got dropped when the when the ell Asil
one of those my name is spelled wrong, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
When the Ameta guns made you change your name. It's
my favorite. One of my favorite Sopranos scenes where Phil
Leotardo talks about how they were really Leonardo and then anyway,
great scene from my Sopranos fans. Yeah, and what's a
tweet or a work of media or social media that
you guys are loving?

Speaker 5 (01:06:36):
Oh yeah, I was. Well, So it came out this
week the the hard Drive, right do you guys know
the website hard Drive? And I don't know if you
guys have already talked about this on the show. They
had like a complete reviewing of every n sixty four
game this week. WHOA, they dropped this massive article where
they went back and played every single game that was

(01:06:56):
released for the Nintendo sixty four and reviewed that. That's
amazing and it's it's like two hundred and some odd
games and it's like a complete I've just been like,
have a tab open of it and just page through.
And I like, I think maybe because I like obviously
like had in sixty four and was renting a lot
for Blackbuster, but also I had like a game Pro
subscription during that time. I'm like shocked at the number

(01:07:16):
of like games that I recognized and either played or
like knew about, right and to like finally really hear
about them. And also from now, it's a really spectacular
piece of work, very comprehensive. I can't recommend it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
Enough love that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:29):
Yeah, I mean, and I guess universally they're panning the
Superman game because isn't that sort of.

Speaker 5 (01:07:34):
Yeah, although it's not they've they've it's actually they didn't
consider it the absolute worst. There a few that were worse.
Is the ver what is?

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
What's the word?

Speaker 5 (01:07:43):
You have to look at the you know, like the
thing here I pull it out.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
Oh, you're not saying that as a tease. You just
don't know. You don't remember. No, I don't know it was.

Speaker 5 (01:07:51):
I think it was another superhero game though.

Speaker 4 (01:07:52):
That makes sense.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
Okay, okay, Zach, what about you?

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
You know, man, I we're actually we're both watching the
show Silo right now on Apple, and I realized that
you can really easily hook me into any show where
you go like all of humanity is living in a cave? Like,
will that? Will that work out? I'm in you know,
if you say, like all of humanities living in the trees, right,

(01:08:18):
why what will that mean? I'm like, I don't know
how that changes. I will check that out, dude, I
will absolutely check that out. So you put any people
in some sort of just like one place or something
right right? Right?

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
Ask the question why I'm in Yeah, there we go,
There we go. Do you find out what the worst
game was.

Speaker 5 (01:08:33):
Matt, Yeah, yeah, it's it's another Uh it's Batman beyond
Return of the Joker.

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
Oh shit.

Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
We were just talking about how the Joker would be
a great podcaster, but he he sledged specifically, so.

Speaker 5 (01:08:46):
That one and then Karma Geddon sixty four they ranked
worse than Superman, which makes me feel better because I
always felt bad about not playing Karma Eddon right, because
I was one of the most played like demos that
I played on my computer. You know those games where
you just had one level, you just have the demo,
and you like kept playing it because you'd never I
could never go to my parents and say, can you
buy me Karma Geddon?

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:09:07):
Oh man, shout out to Karmageddon, shout out those those
long lost games.

Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
Justin thank you so much for joining me. Now, where
can people find you? And all that? And there is
there a work of social media or media that you're digging? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:09:19):
Yeah, you can find me on Instagram at j con
the Smith that's at j C O N t H
E S M I t H. Lately, Hulu has been
killing it with the nineties hip hop documentaries of late
by which I mean I've seen two. The J Dilla
one is fantastic, course, but the Tupac one was the

(01:09:40):
one that really was a huge surprise for me because
I it's called Dear Mama. I was avoiding it for
weeks because I was like another Tupac documentary. I don't
really you know, what else can I learn. I've seen
so many of these, it's fantastic. I sat there for
like six hours and just absorbed all this stuff because
it really isn't about him. It's equally his mom holds

(01:10:03):
a weight in there. And it was released a little
bit before Mother's Day and it's incredibly touching and heartwarming.
If you know anything about Tupac, the gangster side of
him came out a little bit later in life, but
he was a sensitive young boy at a certain point,
and you really see him for who he is in
this documentary. I think that's the first time like I
really didn't want to hear about like, oh, who really
killed him? Or what I wanted to hear more about,

(01:10:25):
like the person, and this really does that. So if
you're interested in that, you can check that out.

Speaker 4 (01:10:29):
Dear Mama. On Hulu.

Speaker 3 (01:10:30):
And also I was lucky enough to get my sleeves
started for my tattoo by an outstanding artist and professor
at usc by the name of Danny Cansino. She's a
local LA artist who's been blowing the fuck up lately.
In fact, if you're in the area, she has a
solo exhibition on display at the Charlie James Gallery titled
This Is My Blood. It's a love letter to her city,

(01:10:52):
her heritage, her culture. It's got Mexican spirituality all up
in it. If that interests you, you should go check
it out. And you can follow her on Instagram at
Danny Cansino at d A n I E c A
N s I n O.

Speaker 1 (01:11:07):
Somebody getting that sleeve done for a fucking free after Yeah,
and I'm like.

Speaker 4 (01:11:10):
That we weed out. She's yeah, yeah, yeah, shout.

Speaker 1 (01:11:14):
Hey, shout out. Yeah yeah. I'll fuck with Danny too, man.
I want to get a free tattooed though. Uh let's see.
You can find me at Miles of Gray. On most
apt based platforms, you can find our basketball podcast, Jack
O'Brien and I basketball podcast Miles and Jack Got Mad Boosties.
We've been talking about the postseason. Oh my god, that's
Celtics man. Oh man, Jimmy Buckets doing his thing, and man,

(01:11:41):
Jason Tatum absolutely turned to a ghost in that fourth quarter.
Don't know what happened the invisible man, but look as
if this recording don't know what happened in Game two
of the Lakers Nuggets series. So I could be a
sad boy as well, so who knows? Who knows? You
can also find me on my uh, you know, reality
show podcast with Sophia Alexandra about ninety day Fiance called
four to twenty Day Fiance. You know what the fuck

(01:12:04):
is up? And let's see some tweets I like At
wbe Z tweeted hundreds of workers showed support for WGA
TV and film writers and their third week of strike
against the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers, and
then at Daisy Gardner sort of quote teeted then said,
you got to feel pretty dumb if you could have
given the writers what they wanted for the cost of

(01:12:24):
a few private jet rides for your executives, but you
refused and accidentally kicked off a nationwide labor solidarity movement
hashtag WGA Strong. Yeah, that's true. And at Julie Underscore
bush Quote tweeted that Daisy Gardener tweet and said, I'll
never forget when an exec told me privately that the
amount I was getting paid was literally the amount the

(01:12:44):
execs were blowing on private jets to locations for no
particular reason. It just shows you, like that the money's there,
it's just not being properly distributed. It's for fucking indulgences.
And at samo yedcoor tweet Hey nice man bun haha,
fucking sucks you hipster asshole. He turns around and reveals

(01:13:06):
he is a samurai from the Tokugawa shogun Age. Oh fuck,
so specific, but I love that samurai reference. You can
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in our footnotes Thank you justin where we post all

(01:13:29):
of the links to the articles we talk about and
uh also the song.

Speaker 5 (01:13:32):
We write out on.

Speaker 1 (01:13:33):
What are we going out on? This is a track
from the artist tlim Shug which the letters are being
slit switched around from slim Thuck. Okay, I recognize that,
but this is tlim Shug and this person is like
a Brooklyn based like producer. This track that they put
out like that we're going on. It's called DK zero
zero one. It sounds like sort of a fly Low

(01:13:55):
adjacent house track, like a really interesting production of like
really great percussive textures on it and like haunting sort
of vocal sample that might be twim Shug themselves, but
I'm not sure. So check this one out. DK zero
zero one all one word to you know, take that
into the weekend again. This show's a production of iHeartRadio.
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(01:14:16):
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