Desantis = MAGA Terminator, Let Cereal Die? 6.23.22

Jack and Miles are joined by writer, comedian, and baldness-advocate Kenny DeForest to talk Coupchella (still), former friends saying "I don't know her" to Trump, the fall of Cereal and plenty more! 

1. Ron Johnson Squirms
2. Can Ron DeSantis Displace Donald Trump?
3. DeSantis Declines to Ask Trump for Endorsement
4. Dr Oz Drops Trump Branding
5. We Can't Let Cereal Die

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to forty two,
Episode three of Dirty Like Guy production of My Heart Radio.
This is a podcast where we take a deep dive
into America's share consciousness. It's Thursday, June two. I mean
we don't have to tell them what day it is
because they know they already know, right do they not know? Maybe?

(00:22):
Do they not know what? I don't know? It's if
you're in Motown, Okay, if you're in Detroit, it's your
day because it's national Detroit style piece of day and
also more importantly National Hydration Day. Fighting that stress back

(00:44):
with a sip of water. I got a big I
got a big thing of water with that has writing
on it that yells at me to get hydrated. Get
started chugging. Almost there, you did it? Refill? Uh? It
would have me drink water until I was ed, until
until I had water poisoned myself. Your kidneys. Yeah, anyways,

(01:06):
shout out to Detroit style pizza, which I still don't
fully know what it is, but I bet it's good. Um,
And shout out to hydration. My name's Jack O'Brien a
k we hope he spanks ozes bottom red. Let's go
John Ferman. Uh that is courtesy Christie. I'm Gucci Maine. Uh. Yeah,

(01:30):
we do hope he spanks Dr Oz's bottom, little bottom
red in the in the election. I think I think
we can say that closest thing we get to like
a major left leaning candidate, Uh, even though the Democrats
try to take his ass out. Um, and I'm thrilled

(01:51):
to be joined as always buy my co host Mr
Miles Grah The Lakers are they feeling Kaye the legs?
So trying to sign Kyrie? Boom boom Okay. That's from
an obscure Hawaiian reggae band called In Division, and it's

(02:12):
a song called Iri Insulation where they saying are you
feeling ivory? But all I keep reading is should Kyrie early?
Should the Lakers? Should they trade a D for Kyrie? Nah?
But go on. So this is a lot of you
love the off season because the wackiest headlines keep popping up.

(02:33):
I mean you maybe Russ? Maybe Russ for Kyrie? Straight up? Um? Yeah,
I mean Russell on a contract? Is k D under
contract with the Nets? That's my main thing is like
I want to see k D come back and like
do something to the haters. Yeah something kd Ish and
I don't know. Look, I'm down for him to see

(02:57):
him get a band in there. Yeah, I mean after
watching the Warriors, I'm like, all right, so we don't
need to We don't need to win a championship at
least another season. So um well, speaking of k d
in New York, we are thrilled to be joined in
our third seat by a hilarious and talented comedian writer

(03:17):
actor you seen on seth Myers, Cord and Hbos crashing
His comedy album Bad Dreams debut number one on iTunes,
has a new special in the works. I don't know.
Am I allowed to say that? Uh yeah? Named best
of New Faces by The Village Voice. Please welcome the
hilarious the Town to Kenny Defara. The question about Zach

(03:43):
is will he be Lavian leaving Zach? I was trying
to think of a way to say Levine living Lavina
Loca Hey off season out. We're about to be like
us watching Vladimir Putin wrestle a bear go bet because

(04:04):
it sounds like we're trading for Rudy Gobert. Rudy the
man who started coronavirus, bringing to you okay, so yeah, yeah,
so we're talking Bulls, We're talking I mean, that would
be that would be wild the because like the bull
the Bulls were a two point specialist team. I feel
like towards the end um if they had Gobert in

(04:27):
the middle and it was just they just it was
like they're they're running the table with scores of like
eighty two to sixty six or something, you know, just
shutting everybody down. The nineties are alive in Chicago, why not? Yeah?
What's good, Kenny? How are you doing? Man? I'm doing great.

(04:49):
It's uh. It was really hard for me to sit
quietly through the NBA uh draft offseason talk. That was
really that was really difficult for me to just sit
that out. But just two days from the draft, Um,
I'm in New York City in the springtime. The streets
are alive, and I think we're fully in summer Kenny
at this point though, but yeah, you're fully you're right

(05:13):
summer one day? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Listen, it's like nice
out and it's about to get bad. There's only one
dead rat in the wall of this building, and life
is good. Man. When there's only one dead rat in
the wall, you are living. Oh yeah, not bad. Wait,
so is it like, how do you know? How do
you know this one? Because the stink doesn't feel like
too this smell. Yeah, you just get really, you get

(05:35):
really used to like I think it's a mail rat.
Just from the odor. I'm like, that's it's a dead
man died. I feel like he was, you know, like
sort of like the rat version of mountain climbing. I
feel like they were like he's like, I'm gonna see
how high I can get in this building and made
it to the second floor and that was it. Man,
you don't make it all the way to summit. You know.
He made it to where you're at a necrotizing flesh somalia.

(05:57):
That's like this is a yeah, maybe slightly immature, but
I see maybe a little too dangerous. I'm getting notes
of maybe once elaborate. I feel like things were testing,
notes of pizza, notes of of makeup. Maybe Lee? Is
that is that? Maybe Lee? And I'm sensing no, definitely

(06:21):
there's a fruit. Maybe this one got into some maybe
spilled nutcrackers and that's what we have given it this, Uh,
just if this might be is this is this rats
out too? Is that a metstrony that I'm picking up
um and then meanwhile in l A we have lost
the skill to identify thunder. Um. It was thundering in

(06:42):
Los Angeles last night, Uh nobody. Miles and I both
heard it, not in the same bed. We didn't like
turn to each other, but we had the same experience.
We were both like woke up and we're like, what
the fox's happening? What is that sound? I thought there
was there were like bombs going off. Maybe um my
kids thought that there was somebody was taking the trash

(07:03):
out at four in the morning. Because that's the closest
we come to the sound of thunder is is trash cans. Um,
So I'm moving two cans at once. Yeah, yeah, exactly that.
It sounds like a two canner. It's Angelino's inability to
identify weather is so so funny. It's like mombs, yeah,
like like if you're on like this citizen app or

(07:25):
like if you have like a ring cab reference like
theyone hear gunshots, It's like it's just the sky. Like
watching Angelino's look at weather is like looking at old
people trying to like make sense of an iPhone. They're
just like I don't know what I'm looking at. It
scares It's both scares and confuses me. And all I
know is I don't want to go outside. I don't
And I'm not gonna ask anyone about it. No, no, no,

(07:48):
I'm gonna pretend I know what's up. Okay, okay, what
does it mean when the little dots are coming out
of the cloud icon and the leather app b Miles,
you had the same time you you thought garbage kids?
So my kids were born in l A. You were
born in l A. That's apparently just a we don't know.
We we know not of rain, but we know about

(08:10):
dragging a garbage can out to the street. It's like
the testing blade runner, the only way to tell if
someone truly was born in l A. Like, do you
no idea what thunder sounds like? So you hold up
the sound of thunder and you're like, identify the sound
and thunder. You're like, leave l A. You're not from here,

(08:32):
Get out of here. Nice try, comrade. I know you're
a secret agent. All right, Kenny. We're gonna get to
know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of the things
we're talking about. We're gonna keep up with Couchella, just
the latest happenings, the latest revelations in how Donald Trump
tried to steal that election, like that's yeah, yeah, it happened.

(08:56):
We know it. Yeah, being told the same thing over
and over again, but it is. It is pretty wild.
It was more out in the open than I guess
we realized. And also then a surprise character enters. I'm
not a surprise character. Someone we've known was probably has
his hands all over this thing, but watching someone get

(09:17):
caught in the n John now with all this, yeah,
the old John's, um. Yeah, we'll talk about Ron Johnson.
It's been a while, it's been a while. We're gonna
talk about people publicly distancing themselves from Trump, which is
kind of a it's like a it happened the way
regular is every couple every couple of months, it's like
the cycles of the moon. Um. But we're also gonna

(09:41):
talk about Ron de Santis. The New Yorker just did
a profile of him that is terrifying. We're gonna talk
about whether Cereal is dying, all of that plenty more.
But before we get to any of that bullshit, Kenny.
We like to ask our guest, what is something from
your search history? The most recent thing is I was

(10:03):
looking for good hikes in the Bristol, Tennessee area, because
that is my new activity when I'm on the road
and I will be at the Blue Ridge Comedy Club.
Would early plug y'all weren't ready for the seventh July
to night, and I was looking, uh for some dope
pikes I can do in eastern Tennessee. So if any
listeners have any suggestions for me, let me know. Your
boy's gonna have his pack and his camel back and

(10:24):
he's gonna be ready to rock up a mountain, So
let me know where to go. How many miles are
you talking? Like? What kind of elevations are you into?
Like you are you the yard core with it? I'm
starting to push it. You know. My goal is not
to like, my goal is not to like you know, crass, Yeah,
but like if you have basically my thing is if
the view is worth it, I will go. I'm not
looking for like I gotta pull out ice picks. I'm

(10:46):
not there, you know what I'm saying, Like, but I'll
do some bouldering. I don't want to be hanging off
the edge of a cliff. I'm not best stallone, you
know what I'm saying. I'd like to stay on all
fours at at at the most difficult. Yeah, I'll scramble,
you know what I'm saying. But I'm not. You know,
I don't. I don't want to be in peril. Yeah.
So yeah, I'm thirty six years old. So that's another thing.

(11:07):
Let's like, let's put a thirty six year old man
on a nice hike where he pushes himself a little
bit but maintains his knees. I got knees to think about.
Forgot needs to think about, bro, I can't be hopping around.
Have you been How long have you been doing that?
Have you? Have you caught some nice hikes around around
this nation of theirs? Yeah, dude, m there's I mean

(11:28):
obviously southern California. Come on, it's just like I've been
going up to o Hi. That was. That was I
got really into it over the pandemic, honestly, like it
was one of the only ways you could safely be
outside or feel safe is to go on a trail
where no one's around a hike. So yeah, man, there's
like some I mean, sequoias are beautiful. I found this
spot just outside of Joshua Tree that's incredible called corn Spring.

(11:49):
It's a Bureau Land Management road. It's beautiful. Man, It's
like it's you know, public lands. People forget about it.
You can go out there and camp for six bucks. Yeah.
Joshua Tree is the most I've ever felt like I
was on a different planet. Like they It is a weird,
a weird place. I love it, like it's it's great.
It's all just like nature. But the plant the way

(12:12):
the plants grow at that elevation, um, look, they look
like they're in the universe of Dr SEUs. And then
they're just boulders that the earth spit out that are
massive just all over the ground. It is very, very strange,
very cool. The desert is a good reminder that, like,
while we've made our lives incredibly convenient, that can all

(12:34):
go away real fast. It's like very it's very humbling
to be in the desert and be like, yo, I
would be in trouble in a hurry out here. Have
you been a death valley? No, That's high on my list.
That's another one. You want to act like you're in
some other planet. There's some really interesting sites out there too.

(12:57):
That is where we discovered the my son has motion
sickness to the degree that like he can't go on
a road trip without being drama means up. Um, And
we were driving through Death Valley when we discovered that,
and he threw up every like conservatively every ten minutes.
And we're just after a while, we just gave up.

(13:17):
But um that that that ship starts to bake when
you're in Death Valley, it's pretty great. Yeah. Um. Anyway,
shout out what what something you think is overrated? Kenny
A man, I'd say, like, one thing that's overrated is
having a full thick hairline. I think we've got a stuff.

(13:37):
Yeah you know what I mean, Like, yeah, my hair
is falling out? Sure have I been staring at it
in the mirror for hours a day trying to convince
myself that what I'm seeing is not what I'm seeing?
Sure all my are all my targeted ads on Instagram
for anti hair loss products clubs. Does my algorithm and

(14:00):
think I am now sixty five years old, Yes it does.
But the thing is I've accepted this, bro, I'm six four,
I'm a white dude. I'm funny and fun what I
need hair to? Like? Come on, bro, you know what
I'm saying, Yeah, Like, come on bro, like you have
all the advantages. Yeah, I've had a good run. I

(14:21):
deserve to be bald man. Let me feel a little
Let me feel a little struggle, you know what I'm saying.
So so you know, are we fighting back a little bit? Yes?
Are we going to get a transplant surgery? Probably not.
We're not gonna going to Turkey anytime soon. Listen, I'm
not going to rule it out because there is a
good chance I'll show up one day with like a full,

(14:41):
fresh full like yeah Kale looking yeah like like I'm
talking like Twisted Sister in their prime. I'm talking eighties
perm I might lose my ship. I don't the doctors, like,
you can't do perms on this hair, please can't you?
Like I don't give up, Like I want you to

(15:03):
shave d Snyder's hair off his head and put it
on mine, like the Locks of Love situation. Do you
ever look at somebody who got hair transplant and like,
wonder what part of their body the hair that is
now on their hairline came from? Like I had that
question about Joel McHale who looks great, but his hair
is not the um consistency of the hair of a

(15:25):
normal like hairline. It's it's like thicker. He's got some
real like ankle hair. Ass. Yeah, has had a ankle
hair head as they usual to take it from the
back of your head. Yeah, maybe some people just have
like different like text your hair back there, and that's

(15:47):
what happens. You never know. All I'm saying is if
you go, if you if you do it, you gotta
know where your your male pattern baldness is going, because
you don't want to end up like Wayne Rooney or
Lebron James to people who were pioneers in their sports
being like yo, man, I gotta get in front of
this ship, only to realize you're like damn everything behind
the transplants going to yeah. Yeah yeah. So in a way,

(16:13):
just like I said, I for me like growing up
all because you you do. But I think you get
that inherit that gene from like your mother's side. All
the men on my mom's side are bald. So like
I was like this it is a wrap. Uh. So
I was doing those long looks in the reflection around
twenty three and like, fun, what's going on. Although what's
fun though is sometimes you take a picture where you

(16:35):
you look like your hairlines back and you're like, oh,
look at this angle. Well yeah, it was at a
photo booth for a wedding and there was one I
thought my ship was like painted on I look like
Jalen Roses ship and it was just a very charitable shadow.
So I I appreciate shadow, Like it looks fucking like

(17:00):
I'm back, but we're back everything, bro, let's stop. Man.
We think a chestnut hair, Kenny, I was gonna say,
that's that's good for a balding man, Like you can
just buzz it and then keep the beard and it
looks good. Like if you got real dark hair and
you go bald, it's like, I don't know, you look

(17:20):
like it can be a little aggressive, so yeah, man.
And it's also like with the transplant thing, it's like, dude,
I post pictures and videos and myself constantly, like people
have already seen what's popping. So if I come back
with a transplant, people are gonna know I got a transplant.
It's not they're not gonna be tripped. They're gonna be like,
you got surgery, Like if I showed up with it,

(17:41):
if I showed up with a dildo in my pants,
he wouldn't be like, wow, Kenny's got a huge dick.
Like he would be like, something's going on over there.
He's got something in there, you know what I mean,
Lady Kenny, I would notice immediately on the on the dipper,
I don't remember Kenny's peen is being a bright purple
plaster and like angular, it vibrates angles, a lot of

(18:05):
sharp angles on there. That's not the right angles the
two uh. Like I I feel like that's a good
sort of um line of fame that people sometimes reach
where they're like, yeah, people are gonna notice I don't
give a funk anymore. And they also reached that point
with teeth. This is something Jamie loft Us like pays
a lot of attention to that I like now can't unsee.

(18:27):
But it's like when people hit a certain level of
fame and just suddenly show up with new teeth in
their head. Um, It's like it always happens with athletes. Though.
It's funny because like I follow like a lot of
soccer players, basketball players, and there's always like that, like
that second contract, new grill smile post or like just
sun my new deal. You're like, look at your big

(18:48):
ass fake teeth. But okay, I mean you're not capping,
but your teeth are capped like no other. Check out
my mouth all cat all cap cat. Ok that's so funny.
I mean, yeah, you see, like Jeremy Piven and PCU,
You're like, that is a Faulding man. You played George,
you played the man who played George Costanza and Seinefel's right,

(19:12):
what are you doing? You need all this? That's why
you know. I'm just I'm waiting. That's why my thing
is like a bald dude. I'm always waiting, like when
science is gonna bring the like the lasic of hair
restoration back. I don't want to fucking do a fucking surgery,
Like I don't care enough about that, but it feels like, yo,
come in here, we blast your head with a laser.
You walk out with a frow. Stem cells are doing it,

(19:34):
the white blood cell stem cell injections. You know your
boy's been doing his research. Yeah see that's because I
guess somehow there's more integrity and stimulating the hair that
was already there than taking hair from somewhere else and
putting it there. You understand, I don't know what my
line is, but that's still somehow it feels like you're like, no, hey,
believe in the ship. You still got ye, this is

(19:55):
this is my front hair. Bro. Yeah. I've definitely heard
from like him older you know, when I was in
my twenties and like older bald men who were like,
you guys are lucky man. By the time you're in
your forties, they're gonna have like cured this ship. There's
nobody will be bald, uh like just having done some research.

(20:16):
But yeah, they were. They were not not happy end
of the day. Progress at the end of the day
all roads to just self acceptance. Ye, radical self acceptance.
That was Michael, you know, living in a world where
like I mean, when I was younger, I got way
caught up on that ship because you know, I wasn't
mature or like, uh secure enough and who I was

(20:38):
to be like, oh, yeah, I'm a dude who's losing
his hair. You know a lot of time you just
want to be like, no, man, funk that. So it's
something else. And then after when he turned that corner
life begins. It opens up. Everything opens up. Anything can
be cured with a little swag. If you take your
weakness and you find a way to swag it, then
all of a sudden, it's now his strength and people like, well,

(20:58):
bald guy like carrying himself. What about coolio? He just
grew the ship out on the sides and braided that. Yeah,
and we're like, fuck it. Yeah, that's that's something you
go doing, like trying comb it over. So it was
like he did, he will do that for a while.
That was over the end of the road. Yeah, and
then he said, fuck it, let me part the sea.

(21:18):
And then yeah, that that's a tough like person to like,
a tough position to be in when you're balding and
you are known for your iconic care more than anything. Yeah,
that's like Joey Lawrence man, whoa, you had to go
bald with it too, you know. Yeah, he didn't. He
didn't make it through unscathed. He's uh, isn't he like
real mega and ship? No? Yeah? Yeah, what what's something

(21:42):
you think is underrated? Kenny? Caribbean food? Because I just
say some bomb asked Caribbean food on Saturday and I
just always forget what a play to. Like, I had
the Branzino fish at this place called the Fat Foul
and Brooklyn. I'm shouting him out because it's so good.
It's like this food court under the Alamo Drafthouse on
the Fulton Mall in Brooklyn. It's like where all those

(22:04):
local vendors are set up stalls down there. It's called
the Fat Foul. Oh my god, dude, it was. And
it was on the Market Mall. That's it. And it
was on it was on Juneteenth, and so there was
like people playing kettle drums and like steel drums everywhere
and dancing, and I was eating Caribbean food, and I
was like, I love this city, I love this world.
I'm dancing to Caribbean music while I'm eating the best

(22:27):
brand zy know what I've ever eaten in my life,
with mac and cheese and sweet plantains, and sometimes life
just feels very beautiful. And that was one of those moments.
I love to hear that. Yeah, absolutely, I gotta shout
out to Fat Foul and Caribbean food, just Caribbean people
in general, lovely folks. I know all your cultures are different,
but just generally speaking, I just with the what's the
true melting pot down there? You know what I mean?
So many different people down in the Caribbean. And remember

(22:49):
when we did Our Lives show in Toronto, we hit
up a Caribbean spot. We had rutted protein uh in Toronto,
because you know, there's a lot of West Indians, like
people from the West Indies in Toronto. And that again
like as you have like curries and like the influence
of like Indian food, but also like just it's it's fantastic.
I'm a big fan. We do allow specific UH like restaurants,

(23:11):
specific endorsements, but only if they're in Brooklyn. That has
apparently become Hey man, if you're getting LASI to check
out the Lasic visions, got my vision a lot of
Brooklyn specific plugs, even though we are not we're located
in a place where we don't even know what thunder is. Yeah,
I preted hair transplant surgery go to Turkey, which is

(23:32):
located in downtown Brooklyn. All right, let's take a quick break.
We will be right back, and we're back, and U

(23:54):
Couchella has continued forward. Tuesday, the January six Committee unleashed
a bunch of testimony um from various elected officials or
election officials in contested states, and yeah, it seems like
we're just getting where they're locking it in. It's like,

(24:14):
you know, being like he knows he lost. He tried
to get me to do some ship. I wouldn't do it,
and then I got threatened and he wasn't coming up
with new ship. Each time. He was doing the same thing,
and his people were doing the same thing each time.
I feel like, and this is like conjecture because I

(24:34):
didn't read the full book. I read like a summary,
but that there was that author that I think it
was Trump's biographer, and he wrote a whole thing about
Roy Kone, the mob lawyer that basically taught Trump how
to do things. And I think, and I've noticed this
in Trump's behavior, and it would be very mafio. So
I think his modus operandi the whole time has been

(24:58):
as long as you can manipulate the narrative, you can
literally do whatever you want, and as long as you
can afford really good lawyers, nothing will stick to you. Yeah,
so do whatever you want. And I think we're about
to I think that method is finally starting to like
we're gonna see we're gonna see is there really a
lawyer so good that they can get you out of

(25:18):
literally everything. That's what we're about to find out. I mean,
his whole life, he's just been it's more a delay game.
It's not that they like get him out of it.
It's just they delay, delay, delay, throw uh, throw enough
suits at it like that. People are just like this,
we're like tied up. We're the U. S. Government and
we're still like we can't we can't deal with the ship.

(25:39):
We're like tied up for years. If we if we
want to just stick after this dude who's like who
died twenty years ago. By the time they get to
any of this ship, he's like he's like a master
gas lighter because what he just does so much insane
shit that he gets people reacting to it, and then
he flips it and he's like, see hysterical everyone is.

(26:01):
They're always yelling. They're always yelling at me. Obviously they're crazy.
They just pick apart everything I do. Look at the
last two weeks x y Z. And then his followers
are just like, yeah, he didn't do that, you're just
saying he did it. It's just like insane you're just
playing a video of him saying he did it right, right,
that's cap um. So like now we're only as you

(26:24):
find out, right, people like Mr Raffnsburger and Georgia and
like the speaker and I believe it was Michigan. These officials,
they basically like I couldn't. I'm not gonna go there
with that, like I took an oath like that was
just a little bit too far response to him being like, hey,
why don't you give me the election? Why don't you
just fucking break the lawful down? No, okay, well, so

(26:48):
check your Facebook because people are gonna be outside your
house screaming at you. And then I mean, so again,
these Republicans, basically, these few like elected officials who had
their hands and whether it was like the state legislature
or the you know, the office of Elections in the state,
they were they were apparently just barely craven, not fully craven,

(27:09):
just just fucked up to the point that they could
like look the other way for most stuff, but not
to the point where many people had to break the law.
And then we heard from these two women, Shay Moss
and her mother, Ruby Freeman, who they were volunteering in
the in Fulton County and Georgia, Like most people do,
you want to go and work at your polling place

(27:31):
because you believe, you think that this is a good
way for you to you know, help your community and
through voting, because that you know, that's been something been
dangled in front of many people's faces. And these two
black women, they were at this Fulton County polling place
when suddenly they found themselves on the like on the
other side of a conspiracy theory cooked up by Rudy
Giuliani and co. About how they were walking out of

(27:54):
the polling place or the state polling station with suitcases
of ballots, and they spoke about how how traumatic that
ship was. I said, I was just trying to help
out in my community and then the president literally is
singling me and my daughter out for for fucking what.
And when you hear that, you're like, holy sh it.
I mean, that's can you imagine, right, even being in

(28:17):
a situation where suddenly your fucking name anybody and fucking
anyone listening is fucking name starts coming out Trump's mouth
and being like, this is the person that's still the election,
and what the funk that experience is like and when
you hear it from from those from the testimony of
Shame Moss and Ruby Freeman, you're like, oh my god,
like lesser people would probably cave constantly, like whether it

(28:40):
was when you know, when you talk about these other officials,
I mean, I don't mean to say that they're like, yeah,
figures of for profiles and bravery from like these like
you know, Republican speakers of the state legislature. But in
that sense you can tell how much fucking pressure comes,
like you just get enveloped in it. And that's the
environment that you're still trying to be like this, I

(29:01):
fucking have to do what's right. And then yeah, you
realize there there is no limit. There are no uh,
there's clearly no boundaries when it comes to trying to
act out this ship for that well, it's gotta be
like I can't imagine being a Republican that is not
down with Trump right now, because on the one hand,

(29:22):
in your mind you want to be like, well, hey, listen,
we're always the party of law and order, We're the
party of this, We're the party of limited government, which
means we shouldn't even be intervening in a lot of
this stuff. So you want to believe that your base
is common sense somehow, But then you see like the
Josh Holly, like those people are winning all around you,

(29:44):
and so I like to do the right thing. You
want to think that your base is going to stay
with you, but there's a lot of evidence to suggest
that they're not. So what an insane situation to be in.
I mean, on both sides, right, Like, even if you're
a Democrat and he says, I'm like, I don't oh
if I can vote for Joe Biden, like what you're
talking about, it's like WHOA, Okay, But in this instance,

(30:07):
it really is like it the levels that they're going
to should really I think serve as again just repeated
reminder of really how one party is fully focused on
doing away with all norms and laws that would prevent
them from keeping power. At this point, law and order
only means keeping marginalized people from acting up. That's that's

(30:31):
all that That's all that means. And now they've fully
just jettison the idea of like, well that means we
need to live in a law abiding or or peaceful society. No, no, no,
it's get the funk out the way Trump Trump took
coded language and threw it out. There is no more
coded language. I mean, if anything, you could say it's
thinly veiled, like it's certainly not coded. Yeah, it's very transparent.

(30:53):
And that's you know, it's to your point, Like, the
reason people get upset if you criticize is because the
stakes are so high. Like the other it's like, yes,
both sides, but also one side is so much more.
And I'm not trying to lump everyone together, but there's
clearly like all parties have a thing where there's like
a mainstream view. If you fall out, that's when like

(31:14):
it starts being like, well, they're kind of like one
of these fringe, fucking freak people who don't know what
the fuss is going on. Um, which brings us to
Ron Johnson, who is probably I mean, we give this
award out a lot, but he's he is not bright
for someone who is a sitting senator and we found
out who like how did he get famous in the

(31:35):
first place? He's what's He's just like, um, where where
do you start? Uh? He's had terrible takes on like anything.
Let me just even just I'll just we'll do a
random thing where I'll just say, I'll search his name
with the word abortion. Uh, he says, Ron Johnson tells
pregnant people to suck it up and go out of

(31:56):
state for an abortion if they want one. That's the
That's like sort of his repeated thing is like there's
no such thing as a human. It's just like, suck
it up if you're poor. I don't know. Ron Johnson
is just like such a shitty stepdad named too, Like
that's for sure the name of the guy banging your mom.
And he's got that. Ron Ron having a real moment

(32:17):
right now, Ron, who's probably gonna be the next president
A little. Yeah. Ron is definitely a parrot head. He
follows Buffet on tour. He definitely has a battery powered
Margharita blender that he has on him at all times.
He definitely is hooked on some sort of opiate and yeah,
and then his views are just informed by everything I

(32:38):
just told you. So he's out here, Uh, you know,
he's in the spotlight losing his religion because the committee
comes out with a text exchange from his chief of
staff and this guy Chris Hodgeen, who is like, um,
I believe Mike Pence is like legislative director, like his

(32:59):
like main like policy want guy. And there's like this
back and forth where the chief of staff is saying like, hey,
I got this like alternate slate of electors that I
need to give to that Ron Johnson has to give
to V. Podus and the guys like what are you
talking about. He's like, it's these alternate electors and Pence's
staff members like, do not give that to him. And

(33:20):
this was on the day of January six. This is
like and as right before this ship is getting breached.
These are the text messages being exchanged, almost being like hey,
I can give him this thing that looks like the
electors from this other state. But even though the National
Archives received those things as part of the certification process,
and the Archives note that these are bullshit electors. These

(33:41):
are not the ones that were actually certified, Like there
was no need to have a conversation about it. But
clearly Ron Johnson was like, gotta get this in their hands, man,
gotta get gotta get Vpotus on this. So we have
them accusing the two election officials in Fulton Fulton County
of uh of like stealing ballots and like doing some

(34:01):
shady ship with actual ballots. Uh, and like that's complete bullship.
But then we have them on the day when the
thing is being certified, trying to put fake votes in,
like trying to put votes that were not representative of
the electoral results in the hands of the vice president,
like the just the exact thing that they're accusing everybody

(34:22):
else of. Every time if a Republican accuses somebody of
doing something, you need to immediately investigate that Republican for
that thing. Anyone anyone who's like that guy is a pedophile.
It's like, oh, I have to say, the amount of
pedophilia like that must be happening in this country with
like the way that their accusations flow. Damn. I mean,

(34:47):
Rudy Giuliani loves to throw that one out and we
all saw him on bow Rat two fully ready to
go to town with the teenage girls. So that's like,
you know, what are we doing here? Constant figures even
like in the Southern Baptist Church now like that we're
finding more and more out about. But don't start telling
the evangelical said about where the predators might actually be

(35:07):
in their own churches. But again, this is all part
of the playbook. Just be like, I don't know, it's fine. Like, like,
I think so many people clearly were like, we're doing
some wild, illegal ship, but if we win, he'll be
president and nobody's going to see the inside of a
jail because that's we're all counting on this ship to
work so well. And I think they thought he's going
to be president forever. Like I honestly think there was

(35:30):
a thought of, like, we can rig this things to
where Trump just keeps being president and then we just
groom his his predecessor and we just keep going down
this path. The what the wild thing is after this
comes out, like this testimony comes out in the hearings,
many people in the press were like, what the fuck?
What y'all have these text messages from Ron Johnson's chief

(35:51):
of staff, so they caught his ass on the hill
right after this ship comes out, just to try and
ask him, like, yo, fam, what's up with what we
just heard? You were trying to put these fake collectors
and in Pence his hands, and he handles it like
the most panicked goon you've ever seen, trying to take
a fake phone call. And you can hear him get

(36:12):
called out by the reporter you know about what your
chief of staff was doing with the alternate slates of
the doctors. You're not. I can see your phone. I
can see your screen still continuing to be able phone.
Thank you change. Can you explain what happened there? Why

(36:36):
was your chief of staff even offering this to device?
Qua story just said. It's a non story, guys, is
complete non story. This is a complete uh you see
me alone. It is one of the worst attempts. I've
seen some bad attempts at uh fake phone calls I've done.

(36:57):
I've performed given really bad performances, occasionally handing over the
top performances where I'm like overdoing it, oh man. Other
times where I just have the phone press there and
I'm just like they won't notice, they won't notice. And
he was doing the he was doing the underacting, the
very naturalistic. He had that phone so far out from

(37:20):
his ear. The reporters like, bro, I could see her
lock screen. What are you talking about? Like you can
not even put it straight on your face and do
the thing. You know, I'm on a fake call when
I go like this na for real? Yeah, and I
go I'm sorry, I gotta take this. I go naw,
and I'm saying nah on my way out of the room. Uh.

(37:40):
He couldn't even do that. I mean, listen, I I
don't hate the game. This is what I do when
I have to take a dump. In New York City
is I walk in a bar and I'm like, is
this the right bar? All right? I'm here, I'll order
us drinks and then I go use the bathroom and
I come out and I go, oh, a different bar,
My fault, sorry guys, and I leave. So I get it.
It's a great tool. But poor Ron Johnson, though again

(38:05):
he was like also a big iver Mectin fan, Like
I said, it's hard for me to remember everything because
just think of every bad policy. He keeps for it
harder than anyone, to the point where he's like, we
all might be horses. Nay, I don't know. But they
caught him again, man New Raju caught him again around
the Capitol and pressed him again, being like, okay, so

(38:25):
then what's up? Like who gave who gave you this ship?
What is like? What is the deal here? And this
guy sounds like like me at thirteen getting caught smoking,
like one of my grandma's cigarette butts or something like.
I don't know. It flew into my mouth. Some staff
in turn, you know, he said, we got you know,
the the vice president needs this or whatever, you know,

(38:47):
and I wasn't involved. I don't know what they said,
but you want somebody from the house delivered to a
staff member in my office. My chief of staff called
the vice president, Hey, we got this, uh, and the
Ice president said, don't whatever. We didn't about the identity
of this person or person do you want to ask about?

(39:09):
This is a complete non story, guys, he's a making
non story. The best stand. If this were if this
were a real committee, they would be asking I wasn't
the capital security? You know who's in charge of that security?
This is a total partisan witch hunt, uh, and is not.

(39:29):
I was not involved in this at all. You know,
where's always walking to I feel like he's trying to
get his steps in on this day that he should
be laying the fun I don't know, I mean, what
did it saying? I don't like who? What do you
mean you don't know who gave it to you? It's
not your staff. You're blaming your staff. And it's such
a different intern my interns, like the vice president needs this?

(39:53):
So okay, which interns? Which intern? That's easy? Say same
the intern? Since when is it a sign of incompetence
to have incompetent staff that? When is that a reflection
of me as a person? What do you mean? Mom?
What do you mean? Who gave a child cigarettes to smoke?
Why does that matter? Why does that matter? Did I
have the cigarettes? I smoked the cigarettes. We're we're just

(40:16):
one intern away from having the entire integrity of the
US electoral system overturned, because apparently if an intern suggests
someone does something like the fucking senator has to do
has to do that thing? Right. You know what I
really can't stand about these magat people more than you
know everything is they've made people like Mike Pence look reasonable,

(40:37):
Like Mike Pence is the hero of this story. Yeah,
I know when he's not doing shit, No exactly, but yeah, yeah,
it's like how Mitt Romney had a moment. It's like,
I don't want Mitt Romney to have a moment. Stop it.
I mean, he's I mean speaking of Mike Pence though,
like this guy really we're talking like, oh, I wonder
what he's gonna do. You know, it looks like there's

(40:58):
a lane clear enough for him if he can just
you know, stab his old boss in the bag. And
he had a chance to be like, yo, what do
you think about the president and all this like the
lies or whatever, and this this this hearing goes. You know, honestly,
I've never seen a president lie more than Joe Biden
and got it. I mean, he has no chance, like
anybody tells you he has a chance, deluded by like,

(41:23):
you know, the I think there was a time when
donors were powerful enough that they can like get like
push someone into relevancy. But we like that's just not
the case anymore. I I really hope that a lot
of billionaires are spending a lot of money on him
as a candidate, because he is has no fucking shot.

(41:44):
Absolutely no. He was probably in a debate Trump be like,
why don't you kiss my ring? Mike, I will, but
like that doesn't mean anything, and okay, so when you
do that, now just but then we can move on
to a reasonable debate. Because I'm an American, I resp
act a former president. Okay, okay, now we're done. Oh

(42:06):
you wanna put my foot in your mouth? Too. Okay,
I'll deep out the wink to He's funny about it too.
Is Trump absolutely sons his entire like all of his colleagues.
He sons them in front of his base, and then
they try to act like these people they respect Trump
because he treats this like wrestling's He is a professional
wrestler as a president, and he just he just comes

(42:27):
out and delivers dis tracts and people go crazy. They're
not going to respect you, Mike Pence. He had people
on January six trying to hang you. There were people
trying to find you and hang you from a gallow.
Kenny and Kenny, I gotta tell you the person I've
never seen anybody hang like the President. Joe Biden's leaving

(42:48):
the American people hanging. So boy, I mean, I almost
changed my name to Mark Curry because I was gonna
be hanging with Mr Cooper anyway. Shout out Holly Robin
and Pete real real wonderful woman, real wonderful woman. But yeah,
I mean, and this is all happening in the backdrop

(43:08):
right where like now, like Fox seems to be showing
a little bit more of the Chance six stuff. More
so because I feel like they're like, man, if we
treat it like the like album that you don't want
your kids to listen to, guess what they're gonna go
and find a way to listen to the album even
if you know, even like it's bullshit, you need to
waste your time. They're clearly are like funk. If they're

(43:29):
gonna look somewhere else, they better just here at least
are fucked up commentary on it, And you've heard some
things be somewhat favorable times. At times, you know, you
have the odd analysts being like, I think he probably
crossed a line there and charges maybe realistic and like
that's the most extreme thing you'll hear, and then they
shot this person out. But while all this is going on,

(43:51):
like the GOP is like they're they're spending a lot
of their energy trying to like pretend what's happening in
this January six thing is nothing to look at, while
also trying to figure out, you know, aside from rat
fucking the next election, how to bring in potentially turn
out a few more voters. But while this is happening, right,
you've got people like dr oz He basically disappeared any

(44:14):
mention of Trump from his socials, from his website, nothing
the words like, there's not even a thing that he's
like endorsed by Trump on his website. So he basically
once he got out the primary, he basically Mariah Trump,
you know, just being like, oh, I don't know her
that I mean, this is this is part for the
course for someone in the swing state, because you can

(44:35):
only ride the Magawave so far before you're like, this
is what it starts getting toxic if I if I
stay on a little bit too long, is too hot,
So that's sorry, I'm too high, too high, so that's
like clockwork. Then you have the funking one of the
organizers of the January sixth rally, one of the fucking

(44:58):
people who put this ship to together the rally for
him to speak at. She basically is out here saying
Trump is washed. Uh this woman, Amy Kreamer. She said,
quote Donald Trump is disconnected from the base. It's time
for those of us in the movement to get back
to basis, back back to basics, back to our first principles.
We were here long before President Trump came along, and
we're going to be here long afterward. Which is disconnected

(45:22):
from the base. Does that mean not racist enough, that's
usually what that means in that context in a way,
or not dumb enough to back mob Brooks. We talked
about mob Brooks, he you know, from Alabama, one of
the silliest motherfucker's in Congress, who wore a body armor
on January six, but was like, yeah, but I just

(45:42):
did that because you know, I forgot my tech fleece
in my car. I just need to be warm. That's
why I had this ballistic vest on. She was a
big supporter of his, and that race just ended, and
we talked about how Trump abandoned mob Brooks's ass and
left him just out there in the cold. And as
a result, Mitch McConnell's pick who the you know, the
the mainstream or not mainstream, but that old school GOP

(46:04):
Mitch McConnell wing backed this other candidate. She won. So
I think this Amy Creamer woman is a bit in
her feelings about that, but also at the same time
more willing to be like what the funk like people
are being like, man, she doesn't hit anymore. That's kind
of like what it's it's starting. The subtext feels like
when people say stuff like that, it doesn't hit the
same you know, let's take a quick break and then

(46:25):
we'll talk about the big, the big schism that's happening
right now mega, because De Santis is also kind of
distancing and de Santis as scary as fun man, like, yeah,
so let's let's take a quick break. We'll be right back,

(46:48):
and we're back and yeah, so it seems like De
Santis is not is like going out of his way
to not like seek Trump's endorsement, like to endorse Trump
really like they're just like, yeah, they're cool, but like
it's yeah, he's kind of like Drake trying to get
out of his young money deal. Yeah, you know, he's like,

(47:11):
thank you so much, thank you so so much. Up
until this point, I feel like I may be able
to put my own shingle out and see what I do,
see if how Pop and I can get with just
my name not attached to this. And that's that's that's basically,
in so many words, what the people around Rond de
Santis are saying that he isn't interested in seeking Trump's

(47:32):
endorsement for for re election in November. So I think
that's if that's true, that truly shows like he's trying
to he's trying to test the brand. He wants to
see if the brand is strong enough without Trump and
being in a state like Florida that already gets you
a lot of conservative cool points and the fact that
he can. All he does is NonStop culture war bullshit

(47:54):
and like no governance. They love that even more. Umah,
and yeah, so it makes him a very scary Yeah,
the New Yorkers just did this profile on him. Uh
that is you know, it's humanizing in the way that,
like all profiles tell you a story where like the
person is the protagonist in a sense because you like

(48:16):
find out how they grew up and ship like that.
But he it's also as far from humanizing as a
as something in that format can get, because even like
his high school friends and like his college friends are
all like, yeah, he's like kind of a creep. He's
like just like real distant and like we'll stab you
in the back the first chance he gets, and like
it doesn't really seem to believe in anything, but but

(48:39):
they're all like, but he's so fucking smart and creative
and like you cannot funk with this man, Like it
really like I walked away I was like, Oh, this
is this is the guy people people were always like
think about like the worst case scenario when like a
smart version of Trump comes along. This is the mother

(49:00):
sucking terminator, isn't he? Harvard and Yale, Harvard Yale undergrad,
Harvard UH Law School. Um does all the homework, like
knows the angle to take that is like closest to
the truth for whatever he can like bend into a
like outrageous talking point. UM. I remember when, like at

(49:20):
the very beginning of the pandemic, when I was like,
you know, doing essentially like oppo research, like trying to
figure out like what like was there any shred of evidence?
Where was all of this? Like the pandemic is overblown,
Like don't listen to the science ship coming from And
like the very closest I could come to finding any

(49:41):
scientific backing was this ebidemiologist at Stanford who basically said
that the best the government could do was like just
let people run business as usual, wait for a vaccine. Um.
It's you know, it's been pretty thoroughly debunked, but he's
still at Stanford. He apparently had tenure UM and he

(50:02):
still stands by it. But the profile opens with De
Santa's reaching out to that guy like around the same
time that like everybody else was like, you know, trying
to figure out this thing. He reached out to that guy.
The doctor talks to him and is like, you know,
this dude not only like reach it, like found me.
He has read all the literature, like not just the briefs,

(50:25):
the actual literature, and has like like has the most
pertinent questions that you would have if you've read and
understood all that ship. Um, it's just he he doesn't
give a funk about people's lives. Like that's the impression
you get. He cares about power and that like single
minded focus from day one, from when he was like,

(50:49):
uh like I think they even have quotes from he
was on like a team that made it to the
Little League World Series. He uh like even the people
back then are like, yeah, man, he's it's real, real motivated,
really single minded. Very um yeah, his team, but his
teammates in college, like because he played college baseball, We're

(51:10):
all like, it's not a good teammate. Uh, not a
good guy, but really smart and like really motivated and
but most importantly, like the thing that really scared me
the most is that he doesn't give a funk about
public opinion, which is the thing that truly freed Trump
to be Trump. He's like not going to That's the

(51:32):
difference between Trump and like every other politician. They all
worry about public opinion at a certain point, and like
he just doesn't doesn't give a funk like that. He
seems to be working with his own internal barometer. Um.
He's also not older than the invention of door knobs.
He was born his se he would destroy Joe Biden

(51:56):
in an election, like he would rinse that motherfucker. If
it is just like Biden versus him, like that, that's
not gonna It's not gonna go. Well, the Democrats need
to be thinking about what they're going to do with this,
And I think this is kind of where I'm sure
the GOP is at this crossroads to think, like, Man, okay,
do we jettison from Trump because we might have something

(52:18):
into Santis here. Yeah. I used to think that was unlikely,
and now I'm starting to think that's at least a
story that we should be paying attention to, because it
might make sense for them to start thinking to Santis.
I mean, he's he sounds like if Ted Cruz hadn't
melted yet, right, Yeah, Like he's like charismatic Ted Cruz.

(52:39):
He's not charismatic. That is one detail the guy's like
when you meet him in person, he can't even like
talk to you, Like he can't even stay on subject.
It's just like he is like a like a turn
He's like a machine that is built for public office.
He's aloof and like a complete like asshole in person,
but like when he gets up, like just in terms

(53:01):
of like how he positions himself, he's very you're what
it sounds like just with a couple you seeb improv classes,
he might be really something to mess with because he
can improve like Trump, because that was Trump's biggest thing too,
is he loved to improv. And I think that helped
this appearance that he's not like another politician where I'm sure,
but at the end of the day, they love the

(53:23):
Santis for the culture warship, not the Magataz well, and
I think I think here's here's something that's maybe hopeful
on the side of it is if he if he's
gonna publicly basically say Trump ship, I don't need him. Well,
if we know anything about Donald Trump. He's gonna come
after you. And it's it is very if you're not

(53:43):
with me, you're against me. It's not gonna be like,
oh fine, well don't get my endorsement. See how you do.
It's like, oh, you know what, my endorsement will guess
what you're I'm now your opponent. Yeah, I guess who's
running not on the Republican ticket. That's exactly right. So
that's what I'm hoping. This is definitely split, you know,
and it's happening on both sides, but the Republican Party
is just like like fracturing right now. Yeah, that that

(54:06):
would be great if Trump also ran, if they both
ran for That's why I mean, we talked a few
weeks ago about how he was talking about announcing on
the fourth of July his candidacy because he wants yeah,
because he's he really has an eye on the field,
and he's like, fun, man, I don't know IF's NICKI Haley,
I'm gonna have to go toe to toe with it,
it's Rhonda Santis. But these are younger people who have

(54:29):
followings in significant like regions of the country that you
need to win an election, and that you know that
may be factoring all into this. But you know, at
the end of the day, like you're saying, Jack, I
think the thing that's scary, Like I didn't realize he
was a nihilist, you know, Like and he believes in nothing,
and he's in the Lincolnberry pancake. He gets the Lincolnberry

(54:49):
pancake when he's at Eyehop. Yeah, yeah, it was pigs
and blanket, but that's his order. And he believes in nothing.
And I think that's also very frightening too, because that's
kind of like that level of like, oh, yeah, I
have no boundaries in my my naked pursuit of power
and however that comes. But I do think that's why

(55:09):
that side of the aisle is is what I'm hoping,
why I'm hoping for a great fracture is because no
one on that side of the aisle has an actual
idea of a greater good anymore. There might be a
few people that we don't talk about, but this like Core,
this Maga Core, these are all just opportunities. It's like
an ethno state, and they will, yeah, they will tear
each other apart. This was all at pursuit of power.

(55:29):
So many of these maga people Q and On whatever.
If you think about Q and On people, A lot
of people in Q and On we're kind of like
losers before. I mean, I don't mean to be like judgy,
but like they and then they get big in this
world and now they have power and they're like, well,
I'm not going to give that power back. I'm not
going back to no YouTube views. I'm staying at this
twenty million or whatever the hell I got. Well, and

(55:51):
then they use there a lot of very real sense
of like economic losers who you know, much of this
country has been treated like ship by the country and
like giving up for dead and that those people, Yeah,
there's desperation there. That's why, like I think we're in
such a dangerous position is because like the only thing
that is offering a alternative to the mainstream like well,

(56:15):
we're gonna like get Wall Street to you know, keep
the economy propped up, and then you'll keep getting uh,
like you know, mainstream Democrat or mainstream Republican like plans
to help you out. Like that ship has gone and
the only people who are offering an alternative are fascists.
Like that, that's not a good position to be. It,

(56:36):
Like the left needs to hurry the funk up and
figure out what we're gonna do, because that that they
they're they're already like they're they're well, their game plan is,
their game plan is simple, their play is very easy.
It's just like, hey, everything they say is bad is
not actually bad. They're saying it's bad to scare you.

(56:56):
I'm the only one brave enough to say this. Allow me.
And basically it's just like, don't worry about this ship
because it isn't real. And that's like relieving the people.
They're like, oh, thank god. And then so many of
these people were left for dead, talked down to by
the left. Coastal ladism is a real thing. As someone
from Missouri, you know, there's only so many times someone
can refer to you as a flyover state before you
throw two middle fingers up and go, okay, I guess

(57:18):
I'm not for you. Then, and and so these people
speak that language. It's your significant you matter. You've been
screwed over by these people. Nancy Pelosi is worth a
hundred fifty million dollars. You think she cares about you.
And they point to a very valid critique of the
democratic establishment that it's a bunch of hypocrites that are
super wealthy and disconnected, and it's a very appealing candidacy

(57:42):
if you don't have critical thinking skills, if you are
not highly educated to where you understand the intricacy of systems,
and you just go, Okay, I'm being spoon fed something
that makes me feel significant. I mean, and it's all
emotion and it's all but it's the other people keep
telling me it's someone to do with structural racism or
some ship. I don't know, that's I don't, I don't.

(58:04):
I'm not interested in that world. Understand that. I understand that, right,
And again that's why it's like here's there's there. There
are a few ways to look at how to make
your life better. And like you're saying, Jack, the people
who are offering fascism and violence seem to have a
flashier brand at the moment than basic human like needs

(58:27):
being met. Nothing then the like like John Fetterman literally
is like the closest that they've got to like somebody
who won a major election and like at least supported
Bernie Sanders. Like other than that, like there there's not
a whole lot on the national on the national stage,

(58:48):
right now. Um, and the Democrats will continue to make
that the case, uh like as currently constructed. Well, speaking
of being spoon fed something that makes you feel good,
is cereal dying? Um, that's a great question because Angela
Pogan at The Takeout, one of our favorite food blogs,

(59:08):
just like wrote this article like sounding the alarm, which
was saying, we can't let cereal die? Is what the
name of the pieces? And you know this is there's
there is significance to cereal, right, I think, as she
points out, like it's like making serious like one of
the first things a child ever learns to make for
themselves almost like the first intricate meal that you ever

(59:30):
make is like overpouring a bunch of fucking cereal and
spilling a cart in the milk, and you're like, yes,
I am on my way to being adult. Um. But
she points out to the fact that like, you know,
Kellogg's like just splintered off into three different like subgroups
for their business because like they need to get sales up,
and cereal apparently has just become it's just in an

(59:53):
it's in a decline. Um. It's it shows that most
people they're opting for other things more portable k fast
options like a breakfast bar or something like that. In sixteen,
there was like a like an analysis done that estimated
sales of cold of cold and hot cereals to total
ten around ten billion dollars, which was seventeen percent less,

(01:00:13):
uh than what they did in two thousand nine. And
then that like basically they projected a steady decline all
the way into and it's been holding up. And they're
pointing the fact that's a convenience I portability play a
large role and why people have begun turning away from
the classic breakfast option. And as he points out, another
research firm surveyed consumers back in fifteen and found out

(01:00:33):
that thirty nine of millennials said cereal was inconvenient because
you have to clean a dish afterward. And I'm like,
that's factual, that's us, that's us. I'll just set it
out the box if I have to, al Right, whatever
whatever they make, uh, the what's that blender vitamins, blenders

(01:00:57):
out of cereal companies need to give those out and
then you you can just like a cereal bowl made
out of that, a cereal spoon made out of that,
and then they'd be golden because like that ship, you
just like put it in the sink and put a
little water on it and just everything slides right off
of it. Granted it's probably like giving us all cancer

(01:01:18):
thirty years from now, but that's my blood type is
plastic doctors exactly. Um, I don't know, like we we
still have you know, five or six box of the
cereal at any given tild but that's and that's the
thing that she's pointing out, like adults, are we going
to embrace cereal again because we can't just count on

(01:01:39):
the children to keep cereal alive? Are we gonna? And
she did point out in Cereals that there was an
uptick because a lot of adults were home and they're like, yeah,
fucking I like cereal, Like I got a minute, I'll
eat a bowl of cereal. But then that's that sort
of trend is dying off again. Cereal is dessert, like
basically like that that's how I treat you. Did I don't,

(01:02:00):
I don't have a bowl of cereal and be like
and now I am on my way to a healthy
day the way I once did. Like that's for sure
one one big thing that has improved my uh, you know,
cereal like made me more likely to eat cereal now
is like lactose free milk. I didn't realize I was
lactose intolerant or or like, you know, I'm probably like

(01:02:23):
lactose intolerant. But does it Like I I felt like
taking a nap every time I ate cereal, And then
I started getting lactose free milk because our kids are
lactose intolerant, and um, now I can. I can eat
cereal with abandon. Um wow, look at you. But I
don't because it's a big wraw she like soup in

(01:02:44):
your belly, like right after you eat it. It doesn't
it doesn't feel great. I haven't pulled a box of
cereal off the shelf and put it into my cart
since probably. Wow, So you're the problem. Yeah, I mean
I like, I like. I like savory. Look, I like
savory breakfast when I eat cereal, Like when I was
really eating it, I was like in college, and I
would be so high and it was the easiest way

(01:03:05):
to get calories that didn't involve heating food. So like, yeah,
I would eat a like a salad mixing bowls worth
of like a half box of rice crispy treat cereal
right before class, not knowing how nutrition worked. But since then,
I guess I continued for five years after that, and
then I finally got my ship together. Yeah, I see

(01:03:25):
headlines like this. I'm always like, do we have to
save it? Like the reasons the other day, the reason,
the reason we're moving on from it is because there's
better things. Like for breakfast this morning, I had a
cereal adjacent item. I had a bowl of City's yogurt
with blueberry vanilla granola mixed in it, which is like

(01:03:45):
basically just like, hey, it's cereal, but less sugar and
more probiotics, and you'll actually feel full because of the yogurt.
I didn't know about some part of the problem, yeah,
part of cereal traders out here. I mean never I've
never been a hot breakfast or a quick breakfast. See
for me, I like savor. If you're gonna offer me breakfast,

(01:04:06):
I don't even I don't even mean pancakes, Like I
don't like give me salt, you know, thank you shout
out to my blood pressure. But I put cereal that
for our kids. I put a small like mixture of
like four cereals. One that's like somewhat sweet with like
a bunch of other like more healthy cereals. I put
that like down while I'm making the eggs. I I

(01:04:27):
never consider like, okay, you've had breakfast, but like that's
that's something that will keep them occupied, because if they
don't eat within like a half hour of waking up,
it's uh, it's bad. Just hit me. There's a reason
for this, maybe because millennials are having less kids. Only
one of us in this chat has children, and one

(01:04:48):
with the cereal cereal you got cereal juice, You know
what I mean. It's like for tired parents. It really
cereals for tired parents. That's exactly. You can't tell your
teacher I didn't feed you. Now, so here's go to school.
Please get out of my face. And I mean if
if we go away back right because we talk about this,
we're talking Kellogg. You know it was anti FAP material,

(01:05:09):
don't you as The reason that I serve it to
my kids is because I can't keep them off themselves,
you know, just constantly pounding unless I give them unless yeah,
corn flakes, That's what that was the original thing that
he was like, you got to feed them, not spicy bland,
shitty tasting cereal or else they'll just be masturbating all day.

(01:05:30):
It's like, I don't know, man, maybe your whole culture
is fucked up and you need to look at something
besides whether the food you give them tastes too good.
It's like it's like when one guy. It's like when
one guy is accidentally revealing his secret. It's like, you
all know how if you eat a tasty breakfast, you
just jack off all day. We all do that, right?

(01:05:52):
We gotta stop this. Every time every time I have
an avocado toast, I just beat off three times. I
can't have this. It's with me. Please some more shredded
cardboard please? Yeah? Anyway, Yeah, there is definitely some line
goes up ship. Like the whole idea that cereal is
like dying off is like it's down year over year.

(01:06:13):
It's like, yeah, well, maybe, like it's still going to
be a thing. It just won't be like it won't
have an entire aisle of the grocery store. It will have,
you know, a little section where people who still enjoy cereal,
like they'll still be able to make money off of it.
It's gonna be fine. Could you imagine though as a society,
we just a full stop reject cereal, like within the

(01:06:34):
next ten years, like and then we never saw a
cereal in the United States again. I mean, now there's
is way too powerful for that ship to happen. So
who's drinking milk? You know what I mean? Like that's
part of it too, Like yeah, now I'm like, go
hand in hand, I'm off that I drink like I
I put oat milk and mocoff. You know. Yeah, I'm

(01:06:54):
you know because more, you know, as we learn more,
I'm like, damn, my eating habits will catch up to
me of eventually. And like when you look at like
the rates of like things like calling cancer and stuff
like that, and now that relates to certain things diets
and stuff, I'm like, shit, yeah, maybe at a certain
point you gotta take that part seriously, but not now
because the world is too stressful. So I will eat
a block of cheese every day. Yeah, dude, let me

(01:07:18):
tell you what's not dying a block of cheese. Although
don't we still have like record cheese surpluses too in
the in the country, So yeah, send it my way. Yeah,
I mean, they might let you into one of those
caves where they keep all that cheese. So to the dome, Yeah,
right to the dome. Cheese to the dome, Kenny, such

(01:07:39):
a pleasure having you as always? Where can people find you?
Follow you? I always have so much fun. Thank you
for having me, man um. I have not looked at
Twitter since uh Wilsonith slaps Chris Rock and so don't
I don't good for you. I mean, if I still
have an account and i'm I'm probably gonna deactivate it.
But I'm just telling Instagram is where I'm at now,

(01:08:00):
That's where I'm popping. I want you to follow me
on Instagram. If you're gonna follow me, it's at Kenny DeForest.
I post clips in my stand up. But this is
the thing, I don't post it daily. Everyone's like, you
gotta post something daily, doesn't even matter if it's good.
And I respect my followers more than that. So I
actually need your help. I need a little word of
mouth on my Instagram. Tell your friends like, hey, he's
a comic. He post caption videos, but he only posts

(01:08:22):
them when they're good, and you'll kind of forget that.
You follow him for short stretches of time, and then
something will pop up in your feed and you'll be
like so grateful that he doesn't post it every day
and it'll be a nice treat and you'll be like, oh,
this guy, I like, I'm so glad he posted one
video this week because it's actually good and it's not
a half baked premise because he's trying to trick the

(01:08:42):
algorithm into giving him a career. Okay, so follow me.
I will not inundate you, and then tell your friends like, hey,
this guy, it's he's not too much. You won't have
to mute him. That's pretty cool like that. Yeah, Kenny,
is there a tweet or something on social media anywhere
that you've been enjoying? I have in on a huge
rabbit hole of this YouTube series called The Soft White Underbelly,

(01:09:06):
and I don't know if you guys have heard of it,
but it's incredible and it's his photographer whose studio is
on skid Row. And the long and short of it
is he always believed that a picture told the whole story,
and he did this series of photographs of people across
the United States, and people had follow up questions and
he was like, you know what, maybe I should interview people.
And because he's on skid row. He interviews a ton

(01:09:28):
of unhoused folks, um, he interviews prostitutes, he interviews pimps,
he interviews drug addicts. It's people that are sort of
on the fringes of society. And his whole thing is
I am non judgmental. So these people really open up
to him, and he pays them for their time. So
you it's it's it's a good nice thing. It's like,
doesn't feel exploitative. You know, this unhoused person is getting paid,
but they're giving you an insight into how you end

(01:09:50):
up on skid row or how you end up a
drug addict. And it's like he I heard him in
an interview say he hopes that his show is like
a crass course, crash course and empathy, and I would
say that he is succeeding. Man. It's really fascinating. Some
of them are hard to watch, but it's really cool.
I think what he's doing, So I highly recommend you
to check it out. Awesome Miles, Where can people find you?

(01:10:11):
What's the tweet you've been enjoying? Oh? Twitter, Instagram at
Miles of Gray. Obviously check out Miles and Jack got
mad boost Ease. We just got written up on NBA
dot com. Okay not, I mean purely based off the
strength of the show, you know, not because it's an
official collab and maybe there's some contractuals. I like to
think of it as this had to happen, it was inevitable. Um.

(01:10:34):
But check out Miles and Jack got mad boost ease,
check out for Fiance and please please please check out
the other a new podcast I helped produce called Lords
of Soccer, which is about corruption within FIFA. Uh. And
it's a very It's like true crime in sports intersecting
with all kinds of dark, murky figures and bags of
cash being exchanged. So the World Cups are in weird

(01:10:56):
places or at weird times. Um. Now, let's see a
tweet I like first one, uh is from at at
the NBA Central. They posted a video of these kids
I think, waiting outside of like the Charlotte like practice
facility and they're waiting for like Lamello and MJ comes
out and I just want to play this because there's

(01:11:18):
a moment because like it's m J and they asked
for a picture and guess what he says? What is
Michael Jordan? Michael Jordan can get hey, calm down? Huh, Michael,
can we get a picture? He sees them, I feel

(01:11:40):
like before they see him, and he's by the time
they see him, he's already telling them to calm down. Yeah,
come on, come, calm down, calm down, calm like you've
seen somebody before. I don't know, I feel like I mean,
I'm pretty sure the first thing, it sounds like he said,
calm down down. Then he says a sentence that I
couldn't make out, and then I was just channeling my
my like grumpy black grandfather who would have been said

(01:12:02):
some ship like act like you've seen somebody before, and
just chill the funk out over there, and can we
get a picture? No? No, no, thank you. Never stop
that man, never ever, every interaction that man is in
your versus him. By the way, yeah, just so you know.
And if he says yes, he lost one, yeah, that's

(01:12:23):
I think that's how he looks at it. If I
say yes, I lose the Michael Jordan's story, and then
more kids the Michael Jordan's story. Yeah, fucking kids, Georgian.
Uh and then at where was it? Dr John Paul tweeted,
Crystal Waters told us that lady was homeless and all
we did was dance for that because she's homeless. She's homeless. Yeah,

(01:12:50):
and it's true. We're just like she got no man,
I don't need I didn't just like fuck it. We're good.
Um alright, at please be nice. G n e I
s S tweeted, it is what it is in my
way through the Collapse of civilization, which I think could
be the tagline of our podcast. I mean we we

(01:13:14):
we have dropped a lot of it is what it
is or it's what it's or it's what it is.
Uh throughout throughout the course of the show. Um uh.
Sheila mckaylie tweeted twenty two so much house music, so
few homes um. And then I liked there are a
couple of riffs on the he's a ten but or

(01:13:37):
she's a ten but Shenanigans tweeted he's a ten but no,
no man is a ten. This is propaganda. Please educate yourself. Um.
Brooks tweeted, he's a he's a seven, buddy eight nine? Um,
a little riff on a classic joke. Uh. And then
Adrian I in a Shelly ian A Cielo tweeted, she's

(01:13:59):
a ten, but is the premise of most Seinfeld episodes,
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(01:14:44):
I've South Africa has been swirling in my mind. And
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Like it really resonates with me and it's a perfect

(01:15:06):
like summer music. So this is an artist I found
called Rusco R. S c O. And the song is
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(01:15:28):
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