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May 9, 2022 68 mins

In episode 1243, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and co-host of NBA Finals File, Jabari Ali Davis to discuss… What rights could be next? Well let’s see where the fear mongering is…, Chappelle Attack: Feels Like Things Get Metabolized by the Media As Culture War Anger and more!

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  2. Chappelle Attack: Feels Like Things Get Metabolized by the Media As Culture War Anger

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two thirty six,
episode one of jo Daily production of I Heart Radio.
A lot of people were saying this one. You know,
there's a lot of a lot of buzz for two
thirty five, two thirty six saying this is the one,
this is this is it. I remember people were like, man,

(00:20):
how are they going to best one we did? Yeah,
I think we answer that question. Anyways, this is a
podcast where we take a deep dive into American's share consciousness.
And it's Monday, May Night, which of course means is
National Sleepover Day. Yeah, although the description is very gender

(00:42):
though like and the like. When you read the description
of National Sleepover Day, uh, it says it provides an
opportunity once again for girls to confide in their friends
in a way they can be inspiring, therapeutic and confidential.
Fact like, we didn't do sleepovers to sleeping in our
back skip ball shorts. We talked about the sleepovers we

(01:03):
did before when we were talking about that Madison Cawthorne clip,
Oh my god, yeah, exactly, the jackass, jackass jackasser. But anyways,
shout out to sleepovers the best. That is where I
got to see most of my favorite movies for the
first time, like that's so true, die Hard Terminator, Hell yeah,

(01:25):
age seven, Yeah, in the still of the night of
a sleepover, that's when real real realizations are had. Exploration begins.
Exposed to junk food. Got exposed to a friend who
whose family had like just donuts for breakfast. I did
not know donuts could be a just straight up the

(01:46):
entirety the entire question to what ye answer to the
question of like what are we going to do for
I remember going to sleepover and then the parents are like, yo,
y'all want that pizza from last night, and like yaya,
And I'm like god, I'm like, no, wonder he's so
had be a school His parents don't give a but yes,
shot thought that and I get it too, even from
their perspective, like I'm about the feed fucking five just

(02:09):
sturdy little eleven year olds or eat that pizza from us?
Back ahead anyways. My name is Jack O'Brien a K.
When we're reporting, we whisper stuff so you are not
stressed out rich as a creasis. Our only thesis is
it's not your fault and pig are like a whispered

(02:29):
fire alarm and Piko are big plans. We know you've
got none. That is courtesy if Rachel has the mic.
Shout out to Rachel as the mic. Yeah yeah, coming
on the scene with the thing about you know, we've
been We've been speculating about where MPR is very strange
tone comes from. We think it's a mixture of like opportunity,

(02:54):
seizing the opportunity of being the first news network that is, like,
you know, people seem to really like this SMR stuff
and they also feel horrible about the state of the world. Anyways,
I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co host,
Mr Miles Gray. Miles Graykay smoke that weir smoke that

(03:17):
we smoke that weird, weird. I just I just came
up with that you are the same boy you used
to be. It turns out, isn't that what that says?
After that, I'm the same boy I used to be.
That's on me. Yeah, oh, the same boy that used
to be? Okay, yeah, yeah, good, Okay, that that all

(03:39):
that all works now? I like that there we shout
out was that Ray was the artist I think Steve
Winwood I thought, am I am? I know there's okay
that much. That's the original, got it. But there's like
a hardcore like massive and dance anthem that has that
just on a form the floor just anyway, that's how

(04:04):
that goes. I'm just learning that it's Valerie, call on,
Call on me, Valerie. Damn, come on, Steve. We just
want to hear you say, come and see. Yeah, there
you go. Anyways, Miles, We're thrilled to be joined by
a very funny and talented writer and podcaster who's the
producer and writer of a show called This Can't Be

(04:27):
Right Miles and Jack got mad Boosts. He's also the
co host with a big Shot Bob Or of the
NBA Finals File God, a lesser you know, podcast collaborator
than those other people. Also one of the best follows

(04:48):
on Twitter. Please welcome back to the show. Jabari y'alli David. Yes, yes,
it is me aka shook nice. I tried to get
a new one but nobody, but nobody bid general let
and it matches your your voice now too, like you
have the Actually I've never heard sugar night talk. I
don't think remember. Oh yeah, but it is. It is

(05:11):
his voice as deep as the parties as it is
pretty deep. I actually have a sugar nice story, a
sugar nice story for you if you wanted doing what happened?
Man want more to say, No, let's just say one
time I was I had some legal troubles. I was
at the Vanna's Courthouse. I was, you know, walking along
the corridor. You know, anybody is familiar with the Vanna's

(05:33):
Courthouse courthouse, the backside corridor, and I looked to my
left and all of a sudden, Sugar Knight is right
next to me right now. Everybody jokingly calls and affectionately
calls me, you know, sugar nice, but I can or
sugar but I can tell you that is a large man, yeah,
powering over me. But he looks at me and I'm
gonna edit this, but he looks at me. He goes,

(05:54):
what's up, little knit? And I said, I am twenty five,
but thank you. That takes confidence to correct like, oh no, no, internally,
I said, And I held the door for him. Did

(06:14):
you sprint ahead to hold the door for him right
this way? Sir? Oh man, Yeah, I mean I guess
you do defer to somebody who's gigantic like that, And yeah,
I wouldn't and that in that period in my mid twenties,
I would have been like, yeah, that should night, and
I'll agree to whatever you're saying to me right now.

(06:34):
Come to death row. Okay, I will. I'm not a rapper,
They'll come to death row. Okay, I'm there, speaking of
you being one of the best follows on Twitter. On Friday,
you retweeted I guess it was the anniversary of the
Alan Iverson sound bite meme sports sports media meme where
he says practice and everyone's like, he doesn't care. Now

(07:00):
we're we're sitting here, I'm supposed to be a franchise
player and we're talking about practice, and you tweeted out
the context that get that gets cut out of that,
not just like you know, people don't tell the story
of what was what was going on, They cut out
like what he says immediately after that, and and well,

(07:20):
what always bothered me about it? Actually I shouldn't say always,
because I was guilty of falling write in line with
the just making fun of it, making you laughing at
the moment. But a couple of years down the road,
I saw the full, you know, the full like conversation
or or press conference, and he's basically saying guys, we
just lost my best friend just died yesterday and we're

(07:40):
sitting here talking about practice. But that's not you know,
that wasn't how it was framed, and that certainly wasn't
how it was you know, how it was reported. And unfortunately,
you know, his the conversation and the narrative surrounding him,
you know, was very negative as a result of it. Yeah,
it took it. It took a turn for him, you know,
like and it's it's wild how much Yeah, like you said,
I it was like, yeah, man, we're supposed to be

(08:02):
I'm you know, we we saw the remixes and ship,
like I love it, like this is Alan is doing whatever.
But then yeah, it wasn't until maybe three years ago
I was like, oh his best friend died, then oh ship,
And then you realize how much shit. I mean, this
happened so often, like in the media, like it's just
so easy to just lop off of sound bite and
then we just take that into reality with no empathy

(08:25):
or anything like wow, and that clip too, you see
him like he's he's crying on the bench. Yeah. Yeah,
but for context, also, that was at any time where
unfortunately we didn't honor or respect. When men showed vulnerability
or actual promotion and things of that nature, you know,
we would point the finger or make light of him.
The same era where Shaq himself was saying I was depressed,

(08:46):
but I did not have the vocabulary or the will
to use words like that because it was just not
the time for things like that, which is wild too. Yeah,
unfortunately moved on from that, and now when a player
cries after having a game winning shot put in their
face like a Joe lm beat, everyone just respects his
emotions and nobody replays that over and over again. Everybody's

(09:12):
just happy for him when good things happened to who him?
Oh wait, wait, this plane is fine in a different direction,
but I do like that. Is one of my favorite
things about the show we make together is that there
is a lot in sports because people have one team
and there are ninety something percent of the other of

(09:36):
the NBA teams are the team you're not rooting for,
So there's a lot of like people just waiting there,
like I hate that person because they've made me feel
bad once and they're ready to jump on it. And
there's a lot of toxicity and sports fandom. But the
NBA podcast that we do. Miles and Jack got Matt Boostise.
We just we're trying to be for the joy, all right,

(09:57):
this will not be an all NBA podcast. The this
episode of Daily Say, guys, we I just wanted to
shout out, you know, what a great job you do
on Twitter and how good our our podcast is together.
But moving on from that, we're going to get to
know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we're
talking about today. We're gonna talk about what rights could

(10:18):
be going down next with the row leak, the road
decision come down in slow motion towards us. And then
we're gonna talk about the you know, as details have
emerged of the Chappelle attack and people who were there
that night, and then you know, the media echoes. I
just wanna want to talk about where we're at because

(10:40):
it seems to be fitting in with a pattern where inequality,
the problems that we talked about a lot on this
show fuel some horrifying act of violence and then it
gets metabolized by the media as like culture war anger.
So I just want to talk about that plenty more.
But first a bar, we do like to ask our guest,

(11:02):
what is something from your search history? Well, honestly, most
of what I've been researching lately with his footage and
background for the Finals file. But truthfully, the very last
thing that I searched was this morning. It was Steven
Seagal running because he was pointed out on another podcast.
And even though I've seen all of his eighties and
nineties films, I you know, I'm pro sleep over by

(11:23):
the way as well, even though I saw most of them,
for whatever reason, it never stood out to me. But
needless to say, um, you know, it absolutely did not
disappoint and I encourage you guys to do it. And
since he is a pretty reprehensible individual allegedly, I don't
feel guilty about laughing at it. It basically looks like
he runs with someone else's arms attached to his body.

(11:43):
That's great, Yeah, that's exactly what it is. He's such
a sleepover all star. He only wears pajamas now, like
this dude just walks around and the most comfortable of clothing.
Oh yeah, he run like uh he like he runs
like out the like brand new out the box terminator. Yes,
or like a like a baby turn in my mind.

(12:04):
That that makes me think of the T one thousand
who runs in a very like yeah with his arms
where seals arms, like don't really know what that's what
I'm saying. Like he's new, he's new, He's like he
hasn't fully been like no, I'm on my two one.
Do you guys remember that old nineties movie Body Parts

(12:25):
where I think it was like Jeff Fay he was
in it, and they like get into a car crash
and then they put his body back together with other
with with like the body parts of a murderer and
they're not they're they're not. I remember poster for this
film that was a bunch of limbs with cables coming
out of it. Yeah, that's basically what he looks like running. Okay,
Yeah that makes sense. Yes, that's the premise of so

(12:46):
many movies where it's like I gotta I have the
the eyes in my head now of a murderer and
I have never never all that successful. But that's a
challenge to anyone. Was this like in an era where
like transplant surgeries were like becoming more like survivabal and

(13:08):
like useful, So then someone you know, some Coked Out
writer and it's like, dude, what if like you got
fucking murderer arm? Well, it comes from us, from the
original Coked Out writer, Mary Shelley. Oh sure, with the
frank and the original Franken style. For some reason, we're
going to go back to the Bible out writer. God,
I think a lot of people stole the idea from

(13:29):
that well known documentary Face off right exactly? How ship?
What am I talking about? It hasn't been done well,
but it's been done perfectly and I need But that's
more like that's less of like does this foreign appendage
or organ affect who you are? Yeah, it never takes
over their body. In fact, the it was it's just
them in a great disguise, but they are themselves other

(13:54):
than some parts where Nick Cage as John Travolta is
like looking in the mirror's like so like his his
reflection is is messing him up. But idle hands there's
that one with solid one of them, but that was
more of like a possessed hand that he had. Yeah,

(14:17):
that's kind of kind of talking about is like the
possessed hand, the possessed eyes, the possessed There was a
VHS box. That made me think Steve Martin might have
started in one, but maybe the man with two brains.
I don't I don't actually know what that was about.
But it's been a while. It's been a while. What
is something you think is overrated? All right? Let's keep

(14:38):
the tradition going because I usually make trash. Who takes
on here most fast food chicken? Uh? And before this
comes across as gatekeeper, I look, I I know, Miles,
this might, this might, this might, this might you know,
poke you a little bit, But I'm not trying to
come across as a gatekeeper, and I'm not trying to
yuck anybody's young. But basically, if you think that raising
Kane is quality because you take you can slime unseasoned

(15:01):
chicken with mac big Max sauce, I'm here for you
to enjoy it. All I'm saying is those of us
that grew up with, you know, homemade fried chicken and
you know from southern family. Well maybe he didn't come
from the South. My family became from the South. Those
of us that you know that a real feel fried
chicken and can actually make it, we kind of scoff at.
I feel for all of you. What did you think
of do you see polot pattins? Uh? Chicken? I did

(15:23):
see it, and I you know, okay, so this is
the thing. Oh wow, she sees us the oil, she
puts the chicken in the in the flour, puts it
in the oil and then pours the season and in
the oil and then doesn't cook the chicken to it's
you know, totality, it's about two thirds done. And then

(15:43):
she even did did you see her follow up you
know video after everybody was absolutely destroying her and I
and I felt I actually felt for because I was like,
you know what, I don't want to add to this,
but I kind of have to. But she basically said, hey,
it's my mom's recipe. I don't know what to tell you.
So I thought you'd be like, yeah, my best friend,
this guy you know, absolutely trust mom on that one.
I mean, that was criminal to watch. And the black

(16:08):
TikTok reactions to that video were gave might give gave
me life beyond the years I could imagine. But it
was the kind of thing Jack, you saw, like there
was no seasoning to to begin seasoning something when it's
already in the frying oil. I have never heard or
seen of that as a cooking technique, like I know
you could maybe put some vegetables and stuff in your

(16:29):
seasoning in the pan, but like proteins to season proteins
in the what anyway? I do? But yes, I would
say this. I like raising canes because it's the best
of the fast food, but in no way I'm like
this is peak chicken finger, because yeah, that's there's there's
a lot better out there. I think it also bothers
me that they don't have anything else, Like you go

(16:50):
there and just like nope, we're this, this is so good.
We don't need anything else, you know, like, well why
reinvented was like no, no, throw something else in the
mixt weeks. But but we don't really have really any
in southern California, or at least not like in l
A l A. There's one in Burbank that's been teasing
to be opened. I know Jackies has been keeping his
eye on that place and counting down the days whether

(17:11):
or not we're gonna have it. But yeah, I've never
had I've never had raising right now, you haven't had
raisin canes? Yeah, I mean it's I think the thing
for people is like oh, you know, comeback sauce. They
got their ownst their cane sauce and really like, look,
we're just mixing catchup mustard or ketchup mayonnaise and some
season salt and a few other things and you're good.
It's all big back sauce. Yeah, And do they use

(17:34):
like breast meat. I feel that that's my main complaint
with fast food chicken is too often they're just like
taking a big whack of a breast meat and you know,
it's not there's so many good parts of the chicken.
Is it takes absolutely that and and again your unseasoned,
so it's like, you know, kid, but look, I challenge
anybody that likes to eat it without that salt. And see, yeah,

(17:57):
there's a whole genre of like cultural things that have
come to us from drunk people at college because it
wasn't wasn't raising canes like originally like a college thing,
like a college town phenomenon, and then it like spread
out from there. Like I just discovered that frisbees come
to us from like drunk board students throwing pie tins around,

(18:21):
and you know, it's just like that is it's not
always the highest of culture that that we get out
of drunk board college students, although kind of also how
basketball got him bended so right, but I don't know
if they're college students, but it was basically like board kids,
and he was like, all right, I'm gonna make up

(18:41):
this game to keep you from jumping on each other
and humping each other's heads or whatever. In general, though,
like I've known in l A. I don't know if
it's like this around the country, but I feel like
we have hit peak fried or Hot Chicken, Like we're
the fucking cup is fully running over. We're like I

(19:05):
feel like when I walk through the new business like, hey,
blah blah blah Hot Chicken, I'm like, what is this?
What does do y'all think this is? You're late already?
And now everyone it's like when the cupcake Corps happened
in l A. And they were like, there's just this
proliferation of cupcake places and then it had to contract.
And now I feel like every everybody in their family
is starting a hot Chicken place or chicken finger place,

(19:28):
and only a handful of them doing well. James Franco's
Hot Chicken is my new favorite restaurant. Now I just
made that up. I just trying to think of the
most random, random person, most infuriating person one. Yeah, exactly.
What is something you think is underrated? Even the tradition going,

(19:49):
We're going to do a makeshift and as uh streaming
corner Love Life too. Have you guys seen that Love
Life too? Know HB video game, HBO Max, it's Real
Max and starring William Harper Jackson. For anybody doesn't know
who he is, it's it's cheaty, cheety from the good place.
I don't know what it was about this, but honestly

(20:10):
it's basically just relatable to any of us that dated
in our thirties. It it hit on, it hit on
every level. So underrated because you know get for example,
neither of you guys have even heard of it. And
every time I bring it up to somebody to go
really love life, I'm like, yes, really, trust me, It's fantastic.
It's the name is also little bit too close to

(20:31):
thirty five reality shows for me to like to stay
right same as do I know about this reality? And
I got one more for you southside of you guys,
you guys seen that all yeah, yeah, okay, all right,
well yeah then I don't have to explain it. I
don't even have to go into it. But basically, if
you don't take yourself too seriously and you can laugh
at stuff and you not easily offended, it's after perfect.

(20:54):
It's like such a good working class perspective comedy and
I just love that, Like it's the problems are so
real and it's not like you know, uh, you can
just tell it's written from like like a grounded place
rather than people are like, I don't know, what would
this world be like. The writers have absolutely worked retail
before any of us that have. Yeah, basically every single

(21:18):
you know scenario that comes up, it's like, oh, yeah,
I've seen that, right, I can see that taking place.
Yeah yeah, Okay, And we have already received a legal
notification from super producer on the hosny Is lawyers because
of the use of the name of her trade market segment,
so we'll just have to steer clear of referencing it. Yes,

(21:38):
but that is a great recommendation of a online content piece. Yes,
that's what the other thing though, to your point about
like love life and how we don't know about it, Honestly,
the because of the proliferation of streaming services so much.
We are beyond at the pace at which things are
coming out. I'm I've given up, like I'm meeting I'm

(22:00):
like I've reached that place where like you get older
and you're like, man, I can't keep up with like
the New the Young Ship anymore. That's how I feel
the streaming shows. I'm like, yo, well i'll die here.
I'll die in two thousand fifteen. That's fine. Netflix has
already canceled another eight shows and and and released another
fifteam during this conversation. So yeah, I feel like because
it was it as recent as the beginning of the pandemic,

(22:23):
when it felt like, man, there's not enough on we
have Tiger King, and then like there's this Jordan documentary
coming in like two months that we're already talking about
does not even out yet. Like that feels like a
different universe. To keep in mind, at that time, it
was so bad they moved up the dock like it

(22:44):
wasn't supposed to come out until I think like July,
and they had to. They had to push it up
and they weren't even they weren't even done with it.
They were completing it at you like as it was
being you know, being there. So the fact that we
were all collectively watching Tiger King and they had to
you know, rust the Jordan's Duck probably tells you is recently,
it's two years ago. Yeah, it was not this extreme. Yeah,
I feel like they are now making content for that moment,

(23:08):
and unfortunately it's like no, we're there's movies now and
basketball and other things and our lives have started again.
But they yeah, now now I almost feel like attacked
by the amount of like interesting streaming that's coming out. Yeah,
we got the like in May, right, just thinking of
the things that you can watch on you know, probably

(23:29):
streaming or theaters. Right, You've got the Top Gun movie
coming out, Bob's Burger's film coming out, Obi Wan Kenobi
series coming to Disney, plus, Stranger Things season four, Chippendale
Rescue Rangers coming to Disney Plus. That's a like John
mulaney Lonely Island joint, right, Like yeah, yeah, yeah, we're
I think we talked about the trailer on trends or

(23:50):
just like a bunch of tropes about animation be going
off of Jabari's confused faces. Why you were including that
with like all these these but that's the thing that
if I heard as an elder millennium like what chipping deal, Like,
that's the thing that at least I'm like that's being made.
Like that's how my reaction to these things are. There's
that there's an Angeline series on Peacock coming out. There's

(24:12):
like Hacks season two. There's like Kids in the Hall,
like entire catalog. I think it's coming to Amazon Prime.
Doctor Strange just came out, the new Star Trek show.
There's like the new Staircase series about the Staircase. Like,
there's just so many things in May alone that used
to feel like at least three months worth of ship

(24:34):
easily usually. And for the record, that my reaction to
Jim and Dale's just because I was a Chippendale's Rescue
or Rangers fan. Montana Jack was my Rescue Rangers when
this danger I'd say, half mournings that have the mornings
I wake up. That is the song that's going through
my head, like no, no explanation, Yeah, yeah, alright, let's

(25:00):
take a quick break, we'll come back and talk news.
And we're back, and there are a handful of conversations

(25:20):
I think everybody's having or you know, re research projects.
People are are doing, like just trying to figure out
what the funk is going on with our country and
what what the future could look like, because it almost
like the future almost feels more unimaginable than it ever
has at this point. And so what one question that

(25:40):
I think a lot of people have is like what
rights could be next based on based on this opinion
that was written Because yeah, like we were talking about
last week, the logic that Justice Alito is essentially laying
out is like, well, the Constitution doesn't mention women or
the word abortion and so, which is terrifying when you

(26:03):
consider how many of our current rights and laws are
not in the Constitution verbatim. And many have said, you know,
same sex marriage could be next. And I'm not sure
how quickly they're gonna go for like a full scale,
like just like rapid repeal of like all of these laws,
because I know, at the same time, you can tell
the Republicans are struggling with this or how they just

(26:24):
cannot use the word abortion out loud right now. They're
like the league or something. Uh So, now you gotta
just kind of look at where a lot of this
energy is swirling, and you can tell that there's a
lot of homophobia in the tank with the GOP right now,
and just recently last week there was a letter from

(26:44):
just a few distinguished ship bag senators from Utah, Kansas,
North Dakota, and Indiana. Uh, they are coming at the
TV ratings people like you know when you put a
TV show on this says PG or like y seven
or whatever. M A coming at those people, meaning on them,
saying hey, we need to have a meeting and we
need to talk because I don't know if you've heard
about all this lgbt Q stuff out there, but we

(27:06):
were asking is maybe you need to create some kind
of new rating or category that alerts homophobes to the
presence of lgbt Q characters or themes. And this letter,
I mean, it reveals a few things. It reveals how
they what they you know, how they even view anyone
who's not ciss het human, as well as just kind

(27:27):
of that they're still like they're still simmering beef with
Disney because they use Disney to kick off the outrage
they said. Quote. Recently, a video emerged showing a prominent
executive at children at a children's entertainment giant saying she
supports having quote many many, many l g B, t
q I A plus characters in our stories to the
detriment of children. Gender dysphoria has become sensationalized in the

(27:47):
popular media and television with radical activists and entertainment companies.
The radical and sexual sensation not only harms children, but
also destabilizes and damages parental rights. They talk about how
they're going against that don't say gay bill, about the
you know band's classroom instruction on sexual orientation our gender identity,
and they go on to say, sexual orientation and gender

(28:08):
identity instruction often entails a discussion concerning an individual's pattern
of emotional, romantic and sexual attraction. Yeah, that's that just
sounds like you're learning some facts. But let's not again
forget that. Conservatives as it relates to anything dealing with
gay rights, is that their mentality is like, well, if
you even here that two men could kiss, that could

(28:32):
instantly create a homosexual by the mere mention, by the
mere viewing of it. That is how malleable our brains are.
Don't don't think for a second. People who are People
know innately who they are deep down on some level.
It's this, It's the they that they heard about this
that is going to present an issue. They go on

(28:54):
to say a former creator of Disney children's content recently
published an article acknowledging that every children's TV writer no
to be careful about quote modeling behavior end quote, as
children will often imitate what is projected through the TV scripts,
especially preschoolers. Again, yeah, sure, what they mean is don't
show a kid, don't maybe have your characters sticking forks

(29:16):
into light sockets. Yeah, that part, but I'm not like,
I'm not over here being like, yo, mom, can I
get some paint so I can go paint a tunnel
view on this wall and hopefully get some cars to
drive through it. And the modeling behavior is, yeah, we
we would like to create a world where people are

(29:38):
feel free to be themselves, and so we don't want
to model a world where like a certain type of
person doesn't exist, or that type of person is like
treated hostily as they have been in our culture like
up until you know, a couple of years ago. Basically
literally right, The thing of it is is like when

(29:59):
we all know this, none of this is about modeling.
It's all about supremacy. It's all about control, like like
like I almost feel like I almost feel sad now
when I see people like almost ironically sharing the you know,
we're gonna be the America is gonna be the handmaids
till like when we share those types of like memes
and whatnot, because like that's the reality we are. We
are all headed to like you footloose your style like

(30:24):
like that, that that is the lifestyle of the that
these legislators seem to you'll seem to want, and and
and and I'll be honest with you, it's it's actually terrifying.
Like I don't have children, but you know, you those
of us that have kids, that's for me, that's a
terrifying thought that that not only are we you know,
are we rolling it back, but it's being forcibly rolled

(30:44):
back and and and and to your kind of a
point that you brought up Jack earlier, Jack or I
think it was a miles. I feel like this is
absolutely coming, Like they are absolutely going to come for
all of this. Yeah, this is low hanging fruit. Right.
So while you may not go and say we need
to we need to repeal the same sex marriage, you say, well,

(31:04):
let's turn up the heat in other places. Maybe we
can disappear LGBTQ people from anything a child may see.
And that's and they have a lot of energy to
back that. This letter does go on to even use
just like completely just inaccurate ship they say when they're
again when they're talking about how the children's content, especially
why seven things, and how dangerous that could be to

(31:26):
have a to anybody who is not a straight person
on there, uh, they said, this dialogue often involves the
promotion of irreversible experimental treatments that involve surgical and otherwise
invasive cosmetic procedures that are detrimental and life altering and
do not evidence medical necessity. What fucking show is that

(31:47):
that kids are watching? What are you? And this is
again because everything is about blowing things out of completely
out of proportion to get the energy, the panic, the frenzy,
the fear mongk just at at the highest level. Well
so you can direct that at will, you know, and
honestly using the using the mindset of oh well it
wasn't in the constitution. It's like, yeah, you know, first

(32:08):
of all, let's give the founding fathers a break. They
were more focused on being able to like own people
in American imperialism and you know, things of that nature.
They like women, What are you talking about now, I
think one of the people who wrote the Constitution like
kept their wife and like changed in a basement. Like
I'm I'm pretty sure that's accurate. I mean, I'm sure

(32:30):
they kept many people changed somewhere, so wife or not.
I can see the I can see the barbarism of
it all. And then so you know, we don't. This
is all just coming down to the fact that they
have to they want to institutionalize even further. That's like
a born homophobia, and so as they want to disappear
these people in the name of protecting children. I think

(32:52):
um Evan Hurst I want Cat actually pointed something very
interesting out about like how these parents of like hyper
conservative Christian parents are is that if anyone's grooming anyone,
these parents are grooming their kids to be sis head,
self loader, big hits, who do not actually who are
not going to honor who they are. That's the that's
the momentum, that's the environment that these these parents are creating.

(33:15):
One environment is one that says, do not feel ashamed
of who you are as a person. You can come
as you are and you are worthy. The other version
is where you hear that, don't look at that, don't
see that. It might tell you this, and if that happens,
then that means this. That is a that is a
world filled with a lot of negative energy for a child.
I can I'm pretty sure comparatively that's how that looks

(33:36):
from my perspective. They're grooming current children to be like
our grand our grandparents. And no disrespect to anybody's grandparents,
but that time in life or anybody, so they had
some things to work on. You know, my grandparents included
you know, we all did. But and again, and I
think it's you know, to use the word groom or whatever,
it's whatever, But I think just interesting to look at

(33:57):
what the energy is being into and if you're talking
about you want to take a child to a certain
conclusion about what the world is or what their life
could be. And to add to that too, the conservatives
are still going on with this like furry panic thing
like we've I mean, we didn't really talk about it
much because it was just so ridiculous that you had

(34:17):
conservatives being like they're putting litter boxes in bathrooms because
kids identify as animals now or their furries, or that
they had to in some states of saying that they
had to lower the lunch tables to accommodate the children
who identified as animals, and so were they are continuing

(34:38):
this whole fucking trend as well, because I think it's
clearly doing something. It's getting the attention, even though most
people don't understand it. But I think because we live
in such a charged environment where like identity can now
just being anything and it's not about a human being,
they're just fully going into like, Okay, let's further to
like other and dehumanize people who are different in any

(34:59):
possible away. Oh man, the next election, it's gonna be
fucking I feel like so many of these things are
like reaching their their final form or just like yeah,
and now it's all it's all about protecting the children. Yeah.
But I I just we've yet to hear a specific
strategy that the Democrats are going to employ, Like what

(35:21):
what that? That's where my feeling of inevitability comes from
is that the Democratic Party doesn't have, like the Republicans
have a clear agenda that they are driving at strategizing
around and have been for the past four years, and
the Democratic Party doesn't seem willing to do anything like yeah, yeah, well,

(35:45):
I think you know, I think the biggest thing is
that when it comes to abortion, that was never really
something that was truly part of the platform. It was
it was you start to see what the things they
get done. They can help take a a regulations, they
can make things easier for the financial industry, they can
do things like that. But as it relates to like

(36:08):
codifying row, never really seemed to be much interest there.
And it was when when they were sending us emails
asking for donations. Oh yeah, I mean I got one
this morning from Nancy Pelosi because she texts all of
God's children with a checking account and says, it's speaker Pelosi.

(36:30):
Hear me in some weird aspont you texted like some
I'm like, how do you even get that fun to
show up in the text? And she was wearing that's
how exactly she knew. She's like, hey, brother, turn that
Kendrick down real quick. I got some I want to
hip you to something. Uh and goes on to say,
I'll be blunt. How we act in this harrowing moment

(36:51):
will decide the future of our nation. We can either
either let right wing forces pull us backwards, or we
can rise up together and fight to protect women rights
once and for all. The only way to protect reproductive
rights is to build on our democratic majorities in the
House and Senate and defeat every last anti choice Republican
who made this happen. First of all, you are caping

(37:14):
for Henry Henry quay are in Texas, who's a Democrat
who is anti abortion right. So now square that ship
because you're protecting people in the party that don't even
believe this. Look, I'm a political idiot. One of the
reasons why I was drawn to this show to begin
with because I was like, look, these guys say, they're
they're they're teaching me some stuff. I I really appreciate
the way you guys phrase it. I appreciate you already

(37:35):
got the gig bro no no, but I'm saying like
this was literally like I'm talking about your years years back.
That was the appeal. I was like, you know what,
I need someone to talk to me like I am
a five year old and you guys, you guys do
a great job of explaining things. And one thing I'll
say is this to respond to something that you asked earlier, Jack,
you heard that, you know that You earlier was, uh,

(37:56):
you know, what's the Democrats? You know plan? You know,
what's their strategy? I mean from a political idiot, what
it seems like it always has been is, Hey, we're
not them, Hey we're better than them. Hey just just
vote blue. Like that's all I've heard, at least over
the last four years. And I'm not trying to dissuade anybody.
I'm not trying to you know, like talk anybody you know,
you know into your voting Republican or doing anything else.

(38:17):
That's what it feels about. It just feels like they're
they're good enough with simply a little bit better than
the other side. Yeah, because that's where the funding is. Yeah,
it's worked, wonders. Yeah. And like the text of the
from Nancy Pelosi of now more than ever, this is it,
Like this is the moment, Like you sent me this

(38:39):
text six years ago and like probably three months ago,
Like I feel I feel like they're constantly evoking this
ship and then like now, Yeah, it's just it doesn't
work because the messages are so fucked up and absurd
when you read them, given what is happening right now,
right people are fucking there are people right now who

(39:03):
are wondering, how the funk am I gonna do right
by my own body right now? How do I do that?
And this text goes on to say we're looking at
this an existence. Well, I mean, we face existence ris constantly,
but this was very specific and it's very very important.
You go on to tweet in this same or in

(39:24):
the tweet in the same text asking for money quote
quote I need a once in a lifetime response ten
thousand gifts in the next twelve hours to put us
in a position to win this fight and protect our
fundamental rights. If we don't meet our goal, Republicans think
they can get away with anything. So you've rhetorically tied

(39:45):
the idea that if we do not give you our money,
then our rights are fucking gone. That's how you're motivating people.
I'll I ask is for one Democrat to come out
and describe, like, what, what is what has prevented you
from protecting women's rights? Why? Why has that? So it's

(40:08):
not enough to be like Mansion, Why so why is
Mansion like beholden to the forces that he's bholden too?
What are you doing like what what can you do? What?
What are what is that stake in your mind? What
is it stake beyond like you know you are next election?
What is it stake? What? What is the thing that
motivates you? Is it like the people who are going

(40:31):
to suffer from this because you don't really seem to
like reach out to them or talk about them. It's
all about, you know, reaching out and asking for a
once in a lifetime a bunch of money. This is
the thing. Like Gavin Newsom, he I mean, I don't know.
I mean, well, I don't know, I don't I don't
know how sincere he is. But he was really like,

(40:52):
where the hell is my party? Right? He's like, where
why aren't we standing up more firmly, more resolutely? But
he's also saying this at a rally, And it's much
easier to be like, as a governor, be like what
are they doing over there? Because the governors love to
do that. That helps them seem like a little bit
disconnected from like the larger you know, national party politics

(41:14):
of it all. But that was the most forceful thing
I read in the headline, was Gavin Newsom being like, dude,
where's my party? Mhm? But I don't know's there's gonna
be like a bunch of Democratic strategists who are reaching
out to AOC being like this is your moment, like
come in run for the presidency next, like like the

(41:36):
things are too too bad for to like for Biden
to win again. I think all that's true. The problem
is the people who are reaching out are Democratic strategists,
like you know it would it would need to. I don't.
I don't know how you unfucked the whole DMC of
it all. We'll see, I mean, because right now they're

(41:58):
still they're sending text messages like I need gifts. You
need gifts, motherfucker people asking for right gifts is exactly
like our need My god, that's so horrible, which just
happened to you. I need presents from you now more

(42:18):
than ever actually, and then making you feel guilty if
you if you aren't able to were willing to do it.
Oh yeah, you know what was wild When I go
through my text, like at the end of last week,
right right before all this ship dropped, got another text,
and the energy on that one was like, hey, y'all,
ship's bad. Yeah, Republicans are might be leading by a

(42:41):
point and you're like, here, yeah, that's to motivate people,
because imagine this, right, It's like when when we watch
funked up ads and we're like, how the fund did
that company let them make that there was nobody in
the room was because everybody in the room was looking
at it the same way. Yeah, they didn't have any
consideration how that looks outside the room because they don't

(43:02):
even have the wherewith all to know that there isn't
outside the room, or if there is, they see it
as outside the room is beholden to what we set
in this room. So I don't give a funk what's
happening outside the room. I'm almost like morbidly curious to
like go listen to one of those like pod save
podcasts just to hear, like what what they're what they're

(43:24):
saying at this I mean, you know they're talking about
like attorneys general and like those moves and things that
are happening in that sense. But you're not gonna get like,
I don't I can't imagine you're gonna hear the frustrations
of the about what the party boil over um, And
I think I don't know. And again I think that's
what's really interesting is you can only keep doing stuff

(43:45):
like this till these things without anyone, without any prompting,
that these sort of takes and texts and things look
so hollow, and you start you start realizing, like what
the fuck, Like we're talking about people's right, and yeah,
I'm getting hit up for money. It's like the first
the first version of that is like when you graduate college,

(44:05):
and then like the first fall after graduating, like hey man,
what's up man? Thinking about donating? And you're like, what
the fuck? That's like most people's reactions right when they
graduate that first mid piece of mail or whatever, high school, whatever,
you like, what the funk are you talking about? And
that's how these texts are starting to sound too. I
think a lot of people, but I think I think

(44:26):
you kind of hit it on the head. And not
to belabor it, I'll make you quick. If you don't like,
if you don't see people as people, if you don't
ever interact with actual, real people, you're not going to care,
and the and and and that's how we end up
in this situation like let's be real, when's it last time?
And I don't want to pick on you know, speak
I don't want to pick on your Nancy Pelosi, but
once the last time you think she's had a real
conversation with, you know, someone like you were I, she

(44:48):
would say, I met with constituents last week that my
press team vetted before I was interacting with them, so
they could say three very specific sentences to me about
a topic that I of my choosing, and it was
wonderful and they were actually disadvantaged. Uh that's like quote
unquote colored. But yes, yeah, well you know she had

(45:09):
her she had her food bulan for that meeting. And
everybody's inside of broken system. So I mean it's like, yeah,
but persons, right, it's got men non uterus havevers telling
Beauterus havevers how to run their ship, and you got
you got people who wouldn't know what the fuck anything costs,
or how stretched and strapped people are for cash or

(45:31):
some sense of stability. People who are living then the
total antithesis of suffering, indulgence over the top everything they're
setting all the policy that determines how those people live,
and it's just there's the it's that's not representative in
any way. And I think that's you know, I think
I think many people are probably for the first time

(45:54):
having a reckoning of like being like, what the funk
I thought those are like rights and that they matter
enough that you would knuckle the funk up to protect them.
And then they go away, and now you're hearing crickets
and Joe Biden being like, hey, get out vote, and
Chancy Pelosi asking for gifts. Yeah. I mean, we are

(46:15):
recording this a little bit ahead of Monday, so maybe
you know, over the weekend the Democrats are going to
just drop a very detailed roadmap for how they're going
to do everything. And I would love to see would
love for them to be outdated by the time y'all
hear it. But I mean, and that's just one mess
y'all got to clean up, right. I don't think many
people have forgot. You don't think people who thought who

(46:37):
were talking about immigration have forgotten what's going on with
that or what people who are interested in voting rights
or criminal justice like re tangible reforms and not a
little winks and nods that ship, but like really changing ship, um,
because if you're not fit for it, that's just starting
to I'm you know, I'm not I'm just looking at

(46:58):
the data that's out there. That's all party. We really
fucking a third party at this point. I mean, and
there are plenty, right, you know, there are plenty other
political part but like, where is the organization coming from? Etcetera.
And I don't and I'm sure they will do everything
to kill a third party, and it's the second it happens,
because that is the that is the biggest threat to them.

(47:19):
It's like, well, if they split off and get these
other votes, than like we're gonna have to start doing
our own jerrymandering to cut out the independence shipped from voting. Yeah,
it has always felt like that was the game. Though,
like like they recognized they're not really competing with one another.
They're just keeping each other in business. Absolutely, Look one says,

(47:40):
we're I mean, like as much as the Democrats are,
like we think people should have access to abortion. Okay,
now prove it, right, that's all. That's really it. That's
really it, and that that may that may help you
get a little bump in the polls, but like if you,
I mean, yeah, the most in a cool version of

(48:00):
this is that like the d n C wanted this
to get out to try and like get the voters
to realize what's at stake if they don't vote for us. Yeah, yeah,
had that fun ready to go, and she was just waiting.
She needed somebody to create the story for her to
use it on, texting me like you some tumbler refugee,

(48:22):
which your stylized texts ship. The fun was that you
want fucking gifts. The gifts I just can't get over.
And I mean, I'm sure plenty of people have you
ever given or your registered Democrat or whatever. You're probably
getting these absurd texts and I'm sure all you can
do is look at that and be like this, it
looks you sound so stupid. M All right, let's take
a break and we'll come back. And we're back. And

(48:56):
the Chappelle Netflix as a joke stand up show that
happened last week that made a lot of news because
Dave Chappelle was attacked during the show. So like more
details have come out. Chappelle's done a another comedy show
where he talked about his experience, and I don't know
just overall that, there's also a lot of headlines about

(49:19):
the person was first being charged with a felony and
now it's being turned into a misdemeanor, and there's also
headlines of people, you know, famous people being like that
we need to protect them like this at the beginning
of the end, and like kind of kind of making
it seem like it's a large scale war on comedians,

(49:41):
which usually means they think it's like a war on
free speech and their ability to offend. So first I
just want to the description of the show, like even
before the attack happened was pretty interesting. There there was
a Vanity Fair reporter there and so it opens up
with British comedian Jimmy Carr his special his Dark Material

(50:04):
is like you know, always on on Netflix, and instead
of doing the normal conventions, the stand up read a
series of offensive, of offensive and quote cancellable jokes, mostly
pertaining to the trans community. Their jokes, he said repeatedly
and between punch lines to the roar of the crowd. Um,
it just it sounds like the crowd was like really

(50:27):
like there for the toxicity. Oh, I mean yeah, I
think the gauntlet was laid thrown down, you know when
when Dave Chappelle started going in that direction. And now,
because if you're if you're going there, and you are
if if you don't you find trains phobia, homophobia like
just despicable. You're not gonna be like, yeah, I want to.

(50:49):
I want to check that out for my enjoyment. You
might go because you're curious, But I feel like the
people who are there, who like bought their tickets, they're full,
like they're on board, or at least not offended enough
to the drew you were there like, I can't, I'm
not I'm not interested in this at all. The reporter
says that like John Stewart went up and like other
comedic news people I've heard of, namely myself, there there

(51:11):
were times last week after the news where I wasn't
feeling very funny, so he had like some more off
the cuff, not fully formed material about how fucked we
all are, and you know, the pro Chapelle audience was
was not responsive. But then you know, the person says

(51:31):
that Stewart got a huge laugh when he used the
F word in a joke about other rights that the
Supreme Court might take away. Chris Rock came out and
talked about how America was almost over and joked about
America's selective outrage, which I think is is an important detail.
I want to come back to And then Chappelle came

(51:52):
on and the reporter says quickly dug into his new material,
which perhaps unsurprisingly is as polarizing, if not more so,
than that of his last Netflix special, The Closer. Backed
by a bright red background, Chappelle said that he truly
believed The Closer was a masterpiece and that he hoped
the trans community watched till the end. Shortly before he

(52:12):
was attacked, Chappelle also mentioned that he had to hire
more security after the response to The Closer, and then
after he was attacked, he joked again in quotes that
it was a transman who attacked him. It was not.
It was a unhoused man who grew up in the
foster care system, struggles with mental health issues, was trying

(52:37):
to draw attention to inequality in an extremely misguided way.
Chappelle took to the comedy store stage like a couple
of nights later and mentioned that he convinced the lap
D to let him speak with the man who attacked him,
and the man told Chappelle the attack was meant to

(52:57):
draw attention to gentrification and his great a mother was
recently ousted from her Brooklyn neighborhood for the outlet. So, yeah,
we have a mental health crisis, economic inequality crisis in
the country that is causing a lot of violence and
definitely scary, untenable circumstances, And all of those problems are

(53:23):
caused by economic inequality, a police force that is merciless,
and a society that empowers them and like feels good
about caging humans and better about caging humans than like
taking care of people who don't have anything looking out
for them. Exactly zero percent of it is caused by
cancel culture. But I feel like the version that you

(53:47):
got of the attack is Chappelle attacked, says like had
previously said that he needed extra security to protect him
against like critics of his anti transmit here real and
then joked that it was a transpan after the fact,
and then everybody's like coming out and being like America's

(54:08):
too sensitive after that, And it just feels like we
have a lot of anger in this country for good reasons,
but they're not the reasons that get mentioned anywhere in
the country for the most part, and it is now
being channeled and like digested into this like really toxic
mixture of like punching down and like being mad at

(54:31):
people who don't have rights. And it just feels again
like we're headed at scary direction. Honestly, you know, I'm
a huge comedy fan, and one of the things that
makes me, I mean this is selfishly speaking, but I'm
sad that a guy like, you know, a person like
George Carlin is not around, you know. And and you

(54:52):
just made me think of it when you said punching down,
because there's a there's a famous quota fe Is I
think he was on with Larry King and he says,
you know, the great thing about comedy is that, you know,
you know, we speak out, you know, you know, it
kind of like the voice of the voice list uh,
you know, speaking out against the oppression or or whatever
the case, maybe whatever the issue of the time may be.
But he specifically in that in that interview said, you know,

(55:15):
we don't punch down, you know, you like, the communities
that are subjugated, the communities that are you know, most oppressed,
are the ones that we definitely are usually in favor of.
And it just feels like now that's completely gone or
and and maybe and maybe that's hyperbolic, but I at
least don't see that you know that mindset you know,
or that you know that being the case with most

(55:36):
of our comedians. Now, look, Day Chappelle, at one point
in my life, I absolutely said he was one of
the funniest people ever. And I'm not gonna take anything
away from you know, any of his past comedy. But
right now Dave has Dave has absolutely turned into like
our uncle on Facebook and and and and I and
for the life of me, I just don't understand it.
It's not like he needs it to be famous. It's
not like he needs it, you know, he needs it

(55:57):
to make money or anything. He would be popular without
doing this, So I think, yeah, it's just like he
found a formula though, and especially and I think with
the way he feels now, like it's he's like a
like a Pokemon who's like leveling up. He's like I
got through that ship now meaning stronger, watch me continue

(56:18):
down this path. And it's yeah, I I there's there's
just like this issue like generally right in the country
where culturally we don't speak about problems in the US,
like it's it's all about just kind of just putting
shipped down, and we have all these problems that we
are not confronting head on, and they're just rotting this

(56:41):
place from the inside out. And it's just like watching
this still continue, continue, continue, it's very it's yeah, it's alarming,
but also like you know, Jimmy Carr, like in between,
like their jokes like, Okay, do some black jokes in
the hood, and let me let me see, let me see,
let me see if you're if you're philosophically, let me

(57:03):
see some other jokes. Let's do some jokes about Jewish people.
But the look, it's one of those where itst like
that train is never late. Those and those comedians already
out there. And I think what's also interesting though, too,
is how many other comedians are like, man, has anyone
actually been to like a smaller comedy show. I think
Roy Wood Jr. Was saying, like, I've seen so many

(57:23):
dudes fight mid show. This isn't anything new. This is
just happening to more famous comedians. That's the difference right now.
But yeah, it it does seem like they're all of
this energy. We're not able to like you're saying, Jack,
just say we have a mental health crisis, we have
an inequality crisis. This guy didn't show up because he

(57:44):
was like, you know, some stalker who was being like
Dave Chappelle, like when had you done to me? Clearly
distraught about many other things, but a lot of it,
like you're saying, had to do with his grandmother being displaced, right,
and think I mean, I'm not saying what he's doing
is right, but imagine not. And again I'm not saying
you need to attack somebody to make your point, But

(58:06):
what have you ever done to help somebody you deeply
cared about? You probably do a lot. And when you
have people increasingly like more people with that level of
desperation and a lack of resources and support, that's definitely
not a good formula for any place. And I think

(58:28):
it's when, yeah, we just don't want to talk about
the thing though, to really articulate that we have a
lot of societal failings happening and we're just it's easier
to just be like, man, the fucking social justice wars tripping, Yeah,
because they don't want to hear. They don't want to
hear that things need to be better. That's really all
it is. It's well to me, like the idea I

(58:48):
wasn't there. I don't know what Chris Rock said was about,
but the fact that it was about selective outrage, well,
he's like headlining with somebody who is at ray aged
at the trans community, like for criticizing his comedy. Well,
you know, it was after the Row opinion had been

(59:09):
published on Politico, Like that's you know, people's rights are
being taken away and I don't know, it's just wild,
Like I don't I I don't know what specifically he
was he was talking about. And then Chappelle ended his
second like his comedy Store set, by saying I hate
this city, which I think is yeah, like it's that

(59:33):
that feels appropriate to me, that you're just like I
hate this place, but not going any deeper than that,
Like what what is what is causing the condition that
makes you hate hate this city? That's a little too
much introspection. The people that yell the loudest about cancel
culture and call the most people snowflakes are the biggest snowflakes. Yeah,
and that's that's the lane that these folks are in there. Yeah, yeah,

(59:55):
and uh and obviously and the jokes just get worse.
And I think to your point to this in bold
into people because the punching down George Carlin fantastic comedian.
And it's difficult to be a good comedian because the
easy way to get laughs is to just make fun
of people, is to just tease people, is to just
demean people. That's the easiest way. Is The first way

(01:00:18):
I learned that I was funny was because I was
a little bit smarter, and I would use that to
say really fucking wild ship that normally the other kids
weren't saying. And people are like, whoa yo, he really
said that about something Dad's dick, you know whatever. And
I'm like, I'm on this ship. I'm here. Motherfucker's watched me.

(01:00:38):
And then you get older, you got you have some empathy.
You're like, man, this these are fucking jokes. Like my
whole I remember when I started doing improv, Teacher at
the Groundlings was like, your whole style is just being mean.
Like every character you do in a scene you get
laughs by just being me, You're not actually helping the
scene go forward and to somebody else's dad's dick coming

(01:01:00):
back to Okay, fine, look well what about the last
thing in the bakery. I wasn't mean you came, you
said when when you're seeing. Partner asked what you're baking?
You said, but I just pulled out your dad's dick.
It wasn't funny, man, it didn't make sense. It was
like what then do you know working comedian who ended
up becoming the Progressive Auto insurance lady. Yeah, Stephanie Courtney,

(01:01:26):
Stephanie Courtney who plays Flow called me on that ship,
and it took me a second to really think, like, fuck,
the only way I know how to be funny was
just to be nasty. Yeah, And that really took. That
really was a gut check of like, man, that's that's
actually like, not not even from an empathy stample, just
from as a like an art I took a second.

(01:01:48):
I was like, I have do I have it wrong?
And can I even make funnier ideas up? If this
is my only thing and it's easy. Now we're seeing
a proliferation of people who they're going with the easiest ship,
and it's like, you know, the artistry is not there,
and we're rewarding people like we're saying to just regress you. Well,
at least you know, if you if things go south
with Zygeist or boost Ease or wherever there's a lane

(01:02:10):
for your comedy. Oh yeah, you can bring it right back.
Oh yeah, I'm I'm I have the perfect career arc
too angry podcast or turns just rabid hate comedian. I
do feel like I don't know that when Chappelle left
Chappelle's Show and like in the middle of making season three,

(01:02:32):
I thought that was like one of the most underrated,
like brave things celebrity has done. To just be like, yo,
fame is will destroy me. I'm going to remove myself
from it. And also like I don't like what this
show means to people, and I don't like the effect

(01:02:53):
I see it having on audiences. So I don't know.
Maybe maybe he was just sensitive to what was coming,
like what what he was capable of, or maybe maybe
he is capable of introspection, and you know, we'll we'll
see him evolve out loud. Don't need to count on
it though, but I'm not counting on it. Do you

(01:03:14):
remember that Lipton interview? Yeah, like, like I want that,
and I know that it's sound it's self to say,
but I want that Chappelle introspective, that honest introspective, just
true to self. You know, you know, you know individual
clearly going through stuff with processing. Right, it feels like
that's not you know, that's about Martin Lawrence, right, yeah,

(01:03:37):
a that Hollywood makes people lose their yeah, exactly, And
I don't Yeah, it's you don't know what happened when
turns occurred, But I don't know. I'm not even really
interested in knowing that. At the end of the day.
Like again, just be careful with the things you consume. Yeah,
what you take in, it's not just your food and stuff,
it's it's really like the content you're looking at. There's

(01:03:58):
a again, a plenty of things you can look at
and get fucking angry about, but like try and put
some ship in that is like joyful too, because just
getting out in the world, you're going to see a
ton of ship that you get outraged about. And we
don't need to the the lines are clear in history
and who's on the right side and who's on the wrong.
But right now, it's clearly profitable to be on the wrong.

(01:04:21):
And when you have the backing of a company night
like Netflix, it's only going to reinforce that perception that
you know, yes, Netflix is a joke, what that that
ship just fucking infuriates me for some reason that that
catchphrase is just like I don't know, I don't know
what it is about it, But Jabari is such a

(01:04:41):
pleasure having you. Yeah, where can people find you? Follow you?
All that good stuff? Jack and Miles, I really do
appreciate you having me again each time I say I'm
not worthy and I mean it. I know I got
the gig already, Miles, but it's true. NBA on Twitter,
Jabari Davis, NBA um that pretty much that that's the
easiest place to find me. And is there a tweet

(01:05:02):
or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying? Absolutely,
And I actually copied it down because I wanted to
make sure I got it right, all right, So it
is by my guy Orc Schindler on Twitter, and it
goes you've seen winning time now check out the other
side of the arena in losing scumbag racist time. And

(01:05:22):
it was in response to the news of Ed O'Neill
being cast to play Donald Sterling and the End an
upcoming X limited series part man. Good stuff there and
Vanessa Hudgens as vis Diviano. I can't wait for the
full casting. Absolutely, bring the visor back miles. Where can

(01:05:46):
people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Uh,
let's see find me at Twitter or on Twitter and
Instagram at Miles of Gray. You can also find me
on four twenty day fiance with Sophia Alexander. You already
know about mad boost these Uh some tweets at I
like Yes. First one is from collect Shade at Miss
Shade on Twitter tweeted, I'm from I believe that Dow

(01:06:08):
will go up forever and I enjoyed leven servings of
bread per day and then suspected arsonists at I'm Colin
Brown tweeted if only there was a place I could
buy furniture while eating meatballs. Uh, let me tell you something, man,
there is forcing wheel of it um all right. Gloom

(01:06:30):
Father tweeted they should make a grocery store for men,
and mostly Momos tweeted they're called gas stations. They have snacks,
dick pills on all the gasoline you can drink. You
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Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have Facebook fan page and
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that we talked about in today's episode, as well as
a song that we think you might enjoy Miles list song.
Do we think people might enjoy it? I mean, hey,
we're gonna keep the so cal I just because of
this track. It's called witty or Boulevard. Okay if you know,

(01:07:14):
you know, but this is from an artist named Jaren
j A r R e N. And this is just
like some like Musach but it feels like a loading
screen on g t A San Andreas if that's if
that you can connect those stocks as a very like
kind of funkadelic kind of hip hop sort of production style.

(01:07:36):
But there's like this sort of tape. It's like feels
like it came off of beat tape from like the
eighties or something, but it's current and I love that
style of music. So this is Wittier Boulevard by Jared
all Right, Well, The Daily z that Guys is a
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(01:07:58):
this afternoon to tell you what is trending, and we'll
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