Fascists R People 2, Dudes ARE Gross? 05.10.22

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two thirty six,
Episode two of Dirt Day. LEAs like production of I
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deep dive into America's share consciousness. And it is Tuesday,
May ten, which of course means it is National Lipid Day. Yeah, yeah,

(00:21):
shout out to that elements that is in our blood,
like our lipids, like fat and cholesterol. But I think
this one is about like raising awareness, so you know,
making sure you got you know, make sure you get
your lipids and check take a walk, you know, talk
to your physics. Enough lipids, yeah, check it out, you
got enough? Got too many, but get into it. I

(00:44):
thought it was a day to just you know, house
a bunch of bacon and egg yolks. Yeah, I was
trying to boost my lipids. Yeah, for the Lipid Day
you take you you separate the whites from the yolks.
You just put all the yolks in a blender, render
all the fat from three packs of bacon into a
cooking sheet, and dump that into the egg yolks. Oh,
I told you my recipe. Yeah, ship, I thought that

(01:06):
was okay. That's when when I told you I was
doing peloton. You're like, oh, you're trying to get big,
Oh you should use my method. I was like, I
don't know if I was going for the same thing
right now. I just kind of generally be bacon fat.
That is the secret. Well, my name is Jack O'Brien ak.
When the laws coda five, but the court says denied

(01:28):
that suble ship. That is courtesy of at ruthless Fudge
on Twitter. And I'm thrilled to be joined as always
buy my co host, Mr Miles Grad Miles Gray. But
you already know that it was ten six twenty trees
on time. Ten six twenty twenty trees on time. I'm

(01:50):
all right, shout out to Ludwig von Drake for that one.
You had a whole verse. I'm sorry I have to
let people know you did write an entire verse eight
seven five three o nine, but it was about Gin Thomas,
Clarence Thomas, his wife as it relates to the January
six insurrection. I only had the energy and breath to
do the chorus, but thank you for that contribution. Beautiful,
beautiful work. Well, Miles Weird. Third to be joined in

(02:13):
our third seat by a very talented writer stand up
comedian podcast host of the beckdel Cast podcast, which takes
down the patriarchy wan movie at a time. She also
happens to have a master's degree in film and the
most anagrammable name in the English language. So depending on
whether you've been given her name on an assortment of

(02:37):
scrabble tiles, you might know her as nine tip Dracula,
Latin dancer u t I. But in our hearts she
will always be Caitlin TOURNTO, Thank you so much, a
K A K nine tail turd. Yes, those are the worst.
Tail gets too fluffy, and then there's a little surprise

(03:00):
waiting when you get good thing single berry. Yeah, like
Latin dnswer u t I. That's not touching on anything
ninety Dracula either, not to you know, cast dispersions on
those fantastic names. But dog, wait was it canine tailed
turtle turd I can entailed? The merchant is making itself.

(03:22):
It's beautiful of Oh sorry, I just want to give
credit where credit is due. That courtesy of Andy townshend
ak flunk on the discard. I hope that information is
still all correct because this was shared with me some
some months ago. But okay, good, good, just sitting on
I'm just yea like a dog with a canine tail turd.

(03:44):
You were just sitting on candon tail Church time. Ready, Yeah,
I don't work. She got that thing on her man,
run up, get done up with a doctor, Caitlin. I
gotta ask you. I didn't see the movie, but when
I saw the trailer, I said, I have to know
what Calin thinks of this, the unbearable weight of Was
it massive talent? Yes? And you know, I'm asking why

(04:06):
I wanted to talk to you because from the only
thing I really gleaned from that film is there is
an energetic debate over Paddington Too being the best film
of all time. Correct, So the Pedro Pascal's character deems
it his third favorite movie of all time, which he's
in because it's should be number one. But they then

(04:27):
and then Nicholas Cage is like, what are you talking about?
That's ridiculous, And then they watch it together, and then
they're both in tears and saying like Paddington two is incredible,
and he's like, I told you. And then there's a
call back toward it. There's a call back to it
later on in the phone. So multiple Paddington two references
obviously the best part of the entire movie. The movie
itself is pretty fun, you know, it's a it's a

(04:49):
fun romp. But the Paddington two references really elevated to
to something great that they know what they're doing, that
this is for the culture exactly, you know, absolutely, and
they take it seriously. It's not like a joke where
like he's he's dumb because he likes Paddington. It's like
he actually knows we we respect these characters more because

(05:15):
they acknowledge the greatness of Yeah, what the fuck, I'm
in my mind it yet, Miles or Jack? Oh, that's
the next one. I think I'm gonna go. I might
see an it here. It's not streaming yet, right, I'm
talking about Paddington too. I don't give a shit about
I want to. Yeah, I'm asking you, Miles, if you've

(05:36):
seen Paddington two yet. I know, as the beginning of
the week, But you gotta get your head straight, man,
we're talking about Paddington two. Man, you're all you're upside
down on all this ship man, trying to keep motherfucker.
Have you seen it? No, I you promised you made
a promise to me. I know, and you know, and

(05:58):
it was a hard time. I was voting for Joe
Biden around then. I was doing all kinds of stuff
I normally wouldn't do, going against a lot of things.
I believe. I apologize. That is my failure that I
will own and I will rectify it by the time.
If you do not even on Mike, I will see
it before I even record with you on Wednesday, right,

(06:18):
because we are recording a back tocast episode. I'm not
going to to So this is not that big of
a promise. No, it's not on Paddington too, like im
Then you show up and you're like a kind of
bad again. Upright. I watched the Ultimatum for a third

(06:41):
time in a row, all the way through. I don't
know what's wrong with me. Oh man, goodness. If I
had a Paddington to screening party, would you come? Yes? Okay,
maybe I'll just have Saddington to screening party. I suck
it to make up for it. And can can I
can I go to a MC and then out the
theater have a private screening of Paddington two on their screen? Yeah?

(07:03):
Please do that. I feel like that's the only way
I can make up for this. To be honest, I'm
like acting like a like a step dad who forgot
about their step kid's birthday, and now I'm going to
go way overboard because I funked up materially so and
make up for my lack of a most no contribute.
When when you have an opinion that is like correct

(07:25):
but lesser known, and then like people kind of start
to come around on it, I feel like you can
go a couple of different ways. How like when that
was on screen in the movie, they were basically doing
the same thing that you've been doing for for years.
How did that feel where you were you? Did you
feel honored? Did you just feel like, Okay, there is

(07:48):
some truth in the universe. Well, I already knew about
the truth of the universe and not truth, being that
Paddington two is the greatest film of all time. I
did feel validated. It did feel like they were kind
of is playing as me, So that kind of makes
me sort of like a superhero, like because you caused
play superhero. So I I really did feel like a

(08:11):
like a like a hero. You're a soldier and has
have The filmmakers commented on whether that was explicit subtext
like them cost playing because I can take soul credit
for the observation. I believe it's honestly in my heart,

(08:36):
that's a I I am always curious because when I
was younger and and like, somebody really liked a band,
and then the people found out about the band, the
people who originally liked it would be like, nah, funk
that I don't like the band anymore. Now that everybody
else likes the band, I feel like that has become
less of a popular position that they would be like

(08:57):
they sold out right, because that always baffledbe because you're
basically operating under the same principle or ideology as like conformity,
where you're letting other people to opinion influence how you
feel about something. No, No, it's not like it's just
that I'm not cool anymore for liking this obscure band,

(09:18):
and now that they're now everyone's like, objectively they're a
good band. I'm like, yeah, the obscurity was the thing
apparently that they like. The personality was liking things people
don't know about and rejecting things that are widely accepted,
like major thing in fan culture with like people who
are like, well, I was into like Marvel before there

(09:40):
was m c U and everything you say about it
is going to annoy me now, the like there are
such things as casual fans. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, there's
a few people who like family friends who got me
into comics or like I hear the way they talk
about Marvel now, it's truly on something, bro, I was
living that ship my page. Man fucking Jon Favreau came along.

(10:05):
Have either of you seen Doctor Strange speaking of Marvel?
Oh no, I've seen I think three m c you
films in my whole all right, I forget this about you. Yeah,
I'm wildly inconsistent with I've not seen it. I was
a little scared off by the title. That sounds like
a lot of Doctor Strange in the in the multiverse

(10:27):
of madness. Yeah, I don't like I don't like conflict.
I don't like madness when people are mad at me
or the universe. A strange doctor, Give me out of here.
Oh my doctors to be not strange, straight down the
middle and trustworthy. Yeah, where's duct doctor? Trusting eyes? Um?

(10:52):
All I know is that there's no there are no
Paddington to references in Doctor muse of madness. Oh it's
not really a good movie, which is disappointing, I think
to everyone exactly, all right, Caitlin, we're going to get
to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we're
talking about. We are gonna take a look at some

(11:15):
like somebody did a report on just a couple of
policy pieces in the b B B the Bill back
Better and how they evolved and how Democrats responded. I
think it's very illuminating look at how the Democratic Party
works functionally. We're gonna look at the media continuing to

(11:37):
not really know how to react to the leaked opinion
that is going to overturn Roe vu Wade this summer.
The you know, Miles, you pulled this opinion piece on
pro choice, but I don't think pro lifers are bad people,
is the headline, Thank you New York Times. Yes, there's

(11:57):
also a front page story on the Sunday New York
Times that is all about, like, you know, tracking this
journey that anti choice people have been on from a
yep they said it grassroots movement through to this being
actually legislation. So we'll talk about all of that. We'll

(12:17):
talk about a new study that has some pretty interesting
things to say about whether dudes are fucking gross or not.
You're not gonna You're not gonna believe this ship. Can't wait. Yeah,
that's probably gonna be the most shocking thing we're gonna
say this episode, just so, just to prepare the listener
all of that ship. But before we get to any
of it, Caitlin, we do like to ask our guest,

(12:40):
what is something from your search history? Okay, here's what
I looked up. I wanted to know when is Shrek
five coming out? Okay, and I have no further information
I found. Uh So, if you go on IMDb and
you look at Shrek five, the result is Shrek five

(13:03):
colin Donkey Face Killer. It came out in Freddy, so
that's not it Shrek. There's a there's a thing called
Hans Magazine, and um it says that it's supposed to
be released in September. I cannot substantiate this information. There

(13:29):
is something published on looper dot com about Shrek five
that it was supposed to come out in one and basically,
I don't even know if this damn thing is happening
or not. But I'm pulling out hope. This was a
thing that was promised to the people of Shrek fandom,
and now it's just kind of one of the things, like, Hey,

(13:51):
what happened to that fucking movie you talked about years ago?
I'm pretty sure. Yeah, I think it was. It was
in the works, and and now it's not really in
the works. The universe like with the with the yeah,
like the I think the way that the world has
evolved closer to the truth as we saw with you know,
people waking up to Paddington too, right, you know, the

(14:14):
universe has also evolved so that there is a Shrek
five shaped hole where Shrek five should be, and we
we we need to stay on this. We just stay
on this story. I actually so there was Shrek one,
of course, who can forget three? But are we counting

(14:35):
like Puss in Boots and stuff like that as Shrek
four or no, because there is a Shrek four in existence.
There is. It's like when it's like, isn't it like
a word, like a penny name, like fourever like four
forever after right? Right? Right? Got it? Okay? Oh damn,
it's been so yeah, the people are waiting. Yeah, I'm

(14:57):
waiting patiently. I need and granted I haven't seen Shrek four,
so I'm behind. But it's like, I don't know, it
might be terrible. I will take comfort in knowing that
Shrek five exists in the world for people to see. Yeah,
it doesn't yet, so I think we need to come
at the guy that I just saw an article that

(15:17):
one of the people who wrote Austin Powers potentially wrote
the Shrek five script and said it was a reinvention
of the series. But that was in Shrek. I don't
know what happened. Yesh, Shrek get frozen and talks about
condoms and not using them. What am I a sailor? Like, wait,
what you're using all the jokes from Austin Powers? Why

(15:43):
do I love gold? Yeah? All right? It it is
interesting that Shrek has not been rebooted, and maybe they
have a timer like somewhere next to the atomic clock
that's like deep in the earth somewhere that is just
like Nope, not yet, it's gonna It's gonna ring when

(16:04):
it's time to bring bring a second. But yeah, like
there's eighties movies that haven't really really been like the
Jaws franchise hasn't been really mentioned for a reboot because
it ended so poorly. But I'm just one of like we're, yeah,
they're they're going to do all of these right, Like

(16:27):
they're they're not going to learn their lesson. So Back
to the Future is an interesting one because I think
Zamakis and the writer like own all the rights and
you basically can't do it back to the Future thing
without them like agreeing to it. So it's like, from
my cold dead hands type, that's the one that makes

(16:47):
the most sense to for them to revive and do
a terrible job with That was also a branding branded bonanza,
like all of the ad like the fucking product placement,
even in the futuristic version. I was like, bro, I
don't even funk with Coke. I funk with pepsi from
or whatever the brand. I was like, that's what I'm into.

(17:09):
I was a pepsi household and I never really interrogated
I am a household onto myself. You guys should know that.
And I think Back to the Future I had a
big part of that that in Michael Jackson, it just
looked cool, the pepsied bottled thing coming up and yeah
there they must be sad, why don't. I mean, I
feel like they're so it's like crass or just so

(17:32):
brazen that they probably just do something very similar. They're
like Time Boy and Friend and Old Man Friend. But
that's the point is that like you could even you
couldn't pitch that. You could pitch a warmed over shitty
version of Back to the Future, but you couldn't pitch
like a I don't like the breakfast something brilliant like

(17:52):
Time Boy and Friend. Yeah, where's the breakfast? I feel
like the breakfast club they would have they would have
completely just ran rough shot. I am as they haven't
done anything with like John Hughes properties he must also
got Yeah, it must be that, like they're those estates
are like nah, clinging on, Yeah, I mean, come up

(18:12):
with your own I don't, well I do, I do
want to see Timeboy and Friend. But I mean a
reboot makes sense if the first version like is was
very bad or just like good premise but poorly executed,
or they didn't have the special effects that they needed
to like really like, I mean, well, there's some funked

(18:34):
upsht about Back to the Future, but like it's also flawless.
So I don't know. I'd say that's one that it's
a very good thing. It hasn't been remade. They're they're
making the right decision by holding off. They just need
to green light time Boy and old future Man or
whatever Timey and old Man call it. I mean we're
we're we're work shopping here. So it's a it feels

(18:56):
a living text. I feel like that's the daniels next film,
Pine Boy, an old man friend but total absurdist view
of like what it means to be able to have
control of your life, like you could super producer justin
point out like that is the premise of Rick and Morty. Yeah,
a Rick and Morty movie would essentially be trust me.

(19:18):
I'm sure they're already like, okay, how do we do that?
That's right, that's a sea grab, a cash grab, ready
to go. What else I'm trying to think of? If there,
if they're new, they're new, back to the what would
replace the DeLorean? Like a pt cruiser, Like what's that
car that you oh but that she didn't even but
at least you could have bought a DeLorean, like I
don't even know if you know you can't anyway. Well, no,

(19:40):
it doc would be played by Elon Musk as as
and yeah, in our modern world, I feel like Time Boy. Yeah,
Time Boy, an old man friend. It's about Elon Musk,
time traveling by himself. It's just gonna be him and Musk,

(20:02):
Ye young old Musk. Yeah, all right, let's take a
quick break. We'll come back. We're over the break. We're
gonna keep kind of beating this one out and uh,
well we'll come back with a fully fleshed out outline
for Time Boy and Friends starring Elon Musk and Elon
Musk as Elon Musk, and we're back. That that was

(20:38):
a real dead end, didn't didn't go the way we thought.
It was a lot of fighting. It's got a big
old argument. We're not friends anyway. Yeah, I got a
little awkward. Not gonna lie to your listeners. They got
really contentious. When I said there would be like hoverboard
razor scooters and a bridge too far for kid, I said, hell, no,
that's that is where, Kitlin? Where what is? What is

(21:01):
something you think is overrated? Caitlin, I think all hogends
ice cream is so over Finally someone says it. We
couldn't say that we're not brave enough. And I'm not
even gonna say I agree with you because of, you know,
my lack of spine. But that is a very interesting take.

(21:22):
I think it all tastes like water that they put
a little bit of milk into and then too much sugar,
and all the flavors are bad, and even the flavors
that like would be hard to mess up. I think
tastes like poopoo. I think it's bad ice cream. Oh man,

(21:45):
all right, we might have to edit that out, Caitlin.
I'm gonna be honest, I'm laughing over thinking about the
sensors and what they're the what they're gonna have to
do with that. You know, Old Stephen legally he's sweating
over this episode. I'm not saying that Hogands is made
of poopoo, So hog And does. When I was growing up,

(22:07):
was treated by my mom as like the holy Grail
of substances. It was really yeah, yeah, I think it was.
She really like coffee ice cream, She really like their
coffee ice cream, and like it just got a it
just was like stuck into my brain as the Rolls

(22:30):
Royce of things that aren't cars. Basically, Okay, I mean,
I think it had this thing. At least my idea
of Hogg and Does was that it was so fucking elevated,
like in the eighties, like you thought that was like
the BMW of ice creams, because it was the ship
was spelled with like woumb loots and ship. You're like,

(22:50):
hogging do this ain't no, this ain't no Kroger Neopolitan
mixt tub. Yeah, this is how good house and yeah,
you feel like that ship is fancy. And I remember
like all like my mom was the same way because
she know, She's like I've I've lived in Europe and
I'm like, this ship is from the Bronx. Mom, Like,

(23:11):
if you a condition is not from Germany, it's like
a Polish dude started in the Bronx. But she loved it.
Like I saw everyone around me being like this is
the best. As a kid, I was like, dude, this
has no fun shit in it. It looks boring. And
to your point, Caitlin, it's not really rich. It feels
like you made ice cream with like two percent milk, yeah,
or skim Look well, we're also a skim milk. I

(23:33):
was a skim milk cowsehold as well. So that's probably
lowered my threshold. So you just don't have good taste
and dairy. Well, I say, I have not had hogdag
since then, and I don't. I don't really have any
interest in it because I don't have like particularly strong memories,
and the best ice cream, the best ice creams I've

(23:54):
had are never from there, like as as an adult,
so exactly I do. I do like a lot of
sugar though, so I don't mind a real sugar bomb
of an ice cream. But oh my gosh, I didn't.
I'm reading the Wikipedia page. When they first were coming
out with it, they wanted the guy who started at
this guy Ruben Mattis, wanted something that sounded daint like

(24:17):
it was Danish, because he was a Polish Jew himself
and he was really was touched by the exemplary treatment
of Denmark, of Denmark's exemplary treatment of Jewish people during
the war, and so he wanted to he wanted something
Danish sounding. And then even there was an outline of
Denmark on some of the early labels because and again
to even to this guy's sort of logic was that

(24:39):
it was known for dairy products and had a positive
image in the United States. There you go. H wow,
all back. I mean not to say that look ice
cream objectively, I'm sorry, I will I will go to
the stuff that has the has the most lipids in it.
That's what I'm saying. Give me, yeah the what what's

(25:01):
the other? I think it was Godiva Chocolates that I've
talked about before that I feel like that. I feel
like that operates in a similar space to Hagandaza is
like still coasting off of like eighties and nineties branding
where people were just like, oh, hell yeah, this is
like the Creme de la creme. It's Michael Douglas in

(25:23):
a skin suit. Yeah exactly. I've had I like, I like,
you know, I like chocolate, and I've had bad. I
haven't had too much chocolate that I was like, the
fuck Gadiva has crossed that bridge once or twice. Yeah, anyway,
let us know where's who is the most unhealthy ice cream?

(25:45):
That's really what it's about. Like, if I'm gonna treat
myself to a combination of like life altering fat and sugar, Like,
let's alter my life. Yeah, let's do it. Same. Also,
it can't be like heart attack ice cream. Or relationship.
That's like design to do that. Which is which is
your milkshake? You were talking about just adding sugar and
freezing it. We'll see. That's that's where you're wrong though,

(26:07):
because my milkshake is actually tip build protein and your
body needs fat. The actually use eggs and ice cream.
So this isn't actually that strange. My milkshake brings all
the boys. I don't know. Yeah, famously my milkshake. That

(26:27):
doesn't need to be debated anymore. Thatn my milkshake. What
is something you think is underrated? I think, uh, continuing
to wear masks indoors especially is underrated. Not a lot
of people are doing it. Not a lot of people
are participating. Uh, and a lot of people are getting
COVID still, So I'm all about that life of you

(26:52):
go to the movies, go to the grocery store, you
go to any kind of store, any you just place indoors,
keep your mask on. Yeah, that's just my controversial indoors. Yeah,
I mean, I'm I'm like, I'm like, I'm always messed
up going indoors right at that point, Also, like I
found it's like my face hoodie. I feel naked about it.

(27:15):
But like I would say even so, like a lot
of the mask mandates have been lifted, I think probably
all over the country by now, I'm only really paying
attention to what's happening in like l A County, but
ninety or more pergent of people going around with their
masks off. So yeah, yeah, and it's still I know,

(27:35):
it's still very uh, like I always hear anecdotes are
just like write ups where people were talking about how
like sometimes people beginning like diarrhea, you know, it's like
a symptom of COVID. But some people have just focused
on that and like I have food poisoning I think,
and then a cough later and they're like, go get tested.
We've been testing the sewer water because you guys are

(27:57):
so dumb at knowing what your body is doing and
you all have COVID. Yeah, but yeah, I mean it's
it's wild. The energy is very much like it's over
and everyone's like COVID is over. And I every week
some person, at least one person I know who I'm
like close to it's like, yeah, I have COVID, and like,

(28:19):
of course you do, because everyone's just going on willy nilly.
So anyway, keep wearing your masks. That's what I would recommend,
and like at the very least have have some sense
of reciprocity, like you don't do things like well I
don't need it, I'm not sick. Try and think about
you're trying to also create an environment for people who
don't have an immune system that is as strong as

(28:41):
yours to not have it be a mortal risk when
they just want to get some haugendaus right exactly, or
go see Shrek five in the theater, right, yeah, that
shouldn't go right to ice, right, yeah, I am. I

(29:02):
also want somebody to interview the people who don't wear
masks and indoors well other people are wearing masks and
just do the like people people with their face diapers,
and just get them talking, because I just want to
know what the inside of there. Wasn't that bad. I've
had it and it wasn't that bad. I was with
a group of people who are like, you know, honestly,

(29:24):
like we're gonna get it. We're gonna get it, and
we can. A part of me understands like to not
completely like you know, retreat from life. But the people
I know who normally were wearing masks was like, now
I got that ship two weeks ago, so um, you
know we're good. We're good right now. I'm just doing
that move. And I feel like that's a lot of

(29:44):
the people I see two are just recently or like
they're within their ninety days of being sick, and they
think they're you know, I feel like there's a patronizing
smile that goes with the people who don't have the
mask on and see you wearing a mask, and I
don't know if that's just me being hyper like, you know,
self conscious and being I'm like, what do you stupid?

(30:08):
What it's because the mask is is so symbolic, you know,
like it's hard to not map onto someone wearing or
not wearing, like I believe these things to be true
about this person. But it's like I was, I was there,
I was where you are mere weeks ago. So what changed?
What change? I decided I wasn't gonna be afraid anymore

(30:29):
and I started to be free. I just want to
live my normal life. And it's just like I want
to live my normal life of not socializing with people
like it was before. All right, let's dig into fun stuff.
The Democratic Party baby, Matt and pretty much all yeah,
policy making this point. Yeah, so Matt Brunnig, who is

(30:51):
writing in Jacobin, but I think he wade through a
bunch of places, was like, since the Billback Better initiatives
are past, and like they were, they were, you know,
putting the bills out where people could read them. He
was noticing contradictions between what they said and then what
would end up after a couple of revisions in the bill,

(31:14):
and he would point it out in articles and there
would be this like massive pushback from sort of mainstream
media outlets and supposedly like progressive think tanks where they
would just say he was lying, and he he was like,
huh no, it's like right there, and the like you

(31:35):
can just read the thing. It's right there. It says
it there. And he would have like, eventually, it's been
you know, a while since they first introduced Bill back Better,
like the he's been able to get people to be like, yeah,
we always knew that was a problem, but like we
didn't we were trying to control the messaging. So I
don't know, it just it suggests like the way he

(31:58):
put it really well, rather than work towards creating the
best possible policies we can through public debate, critique, and reform.
The name of the game is messaging and information control,
including within Congress. Like at one point, so he was
pointing out that like they were really like massively rolling
back benefits around the pre K and childcare proposals, and

(32:23):
a member of Congress like reached out to him. I
was like, Hey, where do you Where do you see that?
Because I like nobody in the media is pointing that out,
Like where where'd you come up with this stuff? And
he's like, I just fucking read it. What do you read? Oh, shoult,
I don't go and read it. I should have looked
at motherfucker space. I t it. Yeah, and I it's

(32:45):
it's pretty upsetting because it feels like you have one
party that if the bills are this complexly worded, imagine
trying to like get the benefits that are actually inside
that they're supposed to be delivering to everyday people. It's
a like labyrinthine nightmare to get anything from the U. S.

(33:07):
Government because since you know, the seventies and eighties onward,
they've like means tested everything and just made it so
that if you want government benefits, you have to do
all the work, like you have to do a full
time jobs worth of work. We've talked about this before,
but like that has been the strategy. Like you allocate

(33:27):
the things that people think they need, but then you
make it very difficult and time consuming to actually get them.
And that way nobody's mad at you because you put
the money aside. But also it like doesn't actually functionally
help anybody, So corporations and Republicans don't get mad at you.

(33:48):
But the so you have on the one side Republicans
who like sneak steal, cheat to get every last word
they can in that like benefits their constituency, which is
like billionaires basically, and uh, you know, evil conservatives and
white supremacists. And then you have Democrats who like do

(34:12):
use the complexity of the bill to just like hide
that they're not helping the people they claim to be helping.
So nobody is helping people like they're just helping corporations,
you know, because lobbyists, right, so much of the like
our legislation, you know, that's such a huge part. And

(34:33):
people when you have staffers used to have people with
like full on policy brain, like walked out people on
your staff to right bills, and over time that shifted
a lot of staffers are much younger and can do
like a variety of things because it's not just about
like speaking to the press, like do you have any
acumen on social media? Do you can you? Are you bilingual?

(34:55):
Do you know this area? Well, there's like so many
other things now that just become very easy for policy.
When lot of you show up, they're like, we got
an idea for a law that would be really interesting,
and you can introduce it so you can get the credit.
But we're gonna how about just take a look at
that real quick and introduce that and it's going to
help our industry. It's because we're we come from this,
like we're representing this industry of benefits and a lot

(35:17):
of that policymaking. It just becomes so normalized that yeah,
like even that, like how confused that one person is, like, hey,
how do you know that? Because they don't even have
time to read the bills right? Right? And it doesn't
have to be that way like that. The two options
shouldn't be party that is good at lying to hurt
people and party that lies to you know, hide the

(35:42):
fact that they're not helping people like those should not
be the two options, but it it currently is, and
that doesn't seem like it's a thing that people really
talked about. But I also think that you know it is,
you will naturally see just like incrementally our rights being
taken away as individuals, and especially people who are poor,

(36:08):
people who are women, people who are minorities, Like that's
who the Republicans are going after. And if they're only
opposition is a party that is just like doing their
best to see make sure you don't see what they're doing.
Like it's it's pretty inevitable. It feels like, yay, hey,

(36:32):
let's talk about how the media is dealing with this,
because they're nailing it at least we you know, democracy
dies in the darkness, and democracy dies in the New
York Times op ed pieces. Yeah, what the fuck? So,
I mean, it's been hard to find like a scathing
piece of journalism or opinion piece that's like in like

(36:54):
the your New York Times, l A Times type of
like CNNs like that aren't just like if there is,
it's not just thrown to the side, like really saying,
front page, this is the state of things. We need
to be alarmed and upset and angry for this myriad
of reasons. There are light things like that, but nothing
that quite arises to that. And I don't want to
belabor this point because I feel like I've just been

(37:15):
talking about it NonStop. But the way this like anger
is being deflected is just so fucked up. You know,
people are losing their rights, they're fucking rights to body autonomy.
And we have some op ed in the New York
Time that's titled I'm pro choice, but I don't think
pro lifers are bad people. Now, on one hand, I'm like,

(37:36):
are you trying to do this to say we shouldn't
be rightfully upset at the people who believe that we
have no rights to our own, like to make decisions
over our bodies, like we're supposed to be cool with that?
Is that the thrust? Now, this is what is in
this op ed is like just trying to human like, look,
there are people too going This is from this op
ed quote. However, I'm also aware that opposition to abortion

(37:58):
is often founded on a basic ide you that that
it constitutes the taking of a human life, with many
seeing a fetus at even its earliest stages as a
person to be that morally forbids us to kill. I
know people of this view of all racist classes and
levels of education. For them, all the negative effects of
doing away with rome may fade in importance. To them,
those things are a lesser priority than preserving life. Goes

(38:20):
on to say, for many, including me, the priority is
what a woman does with her own body. As such,
many supposed that to be against abortion is to be
anti feminist. But for pro lifers, are rumors right even
to controlling her own body stops at what they see
is killing an unborn child. To many of them, being
anti abortion is quite compatible with feminism. So it feels

(38:41):
like their strategy here is to be like, well, now
that anti abortion people are have power and are doing
this thing, we might as well get to know them. Yeah,
you might as well open up to lick that boot too.
Hey there are people too, you know, these are your
new neighbors. And and meanwhile, there are pieces saying mccon

(39:04):
Mitch McConnell just made a grave error by saying that
this decision could potentially lead to a federal law that
makes abortion illegal. I mean, yeah, that is fucked up.
That's you don't you never you want to hear somebody
articulate that thought. But he did, and he's saying, yeah,
potentially we could legislate on that at a federal level.
And they took the prospect of curtailing rights and immediately

(39:26):
spun it into electoral sports nonsense. And this other piece
it says, I think it's something like Mitch McConnell just
like handed the Democrats gold or something. This this one
paragraph goes down after describing like how much how unpopular
being anti abortion is, uh is, they go on to
say this quote, this should be electoral gold. Is that

(39:47):
sentence alone? Chang? That was that was my first thought.
Run I read the opinion this should be electoral gold.
We're you've completely abstracted and made turn into a complete, nebulous,
non human like form the idea of someone not having
body out time like that's that, that doesn't matter. They

(40:09):
just got gold. Who the fucking people who want to
uphold the status quo? And he goes on to say,
I can't imagine a swing state or swing house district
in the country where a majority of voters would support
a federal band, even a partial one. Then this this
piece also goes on to say I've been hearing anecdotally
from friends and seeing on Twitter that women around the
country were outraged by the Elito decision. They're looking, they're

(40:36):
looking to do something. Well, they should do this. Once
the Supreme Court's decision in the Mississippi case is officially
handed down, assuming it's close to what Elito wrote, women's
groups and other political groups around the country should take
McConnell's quote and hanging around the neck of every Republican
candidate in the country day after day after day. Is
this written by someone who will never need to have

(40:57):
an abortion or knows not anything of what threats that
loom are to the to any to any human being.
It's also just like pure like political consultants speak of
like hanging around their neck and like that doesn't mean
anything that we're already talking about the legal qual like
there's so many like legal scholars like, dude, if this

(41:17):
ship happens, there's gonna be like cross border, like cross
crossing state lines. Lawsuits were like Mississippi is like, how
dare California allow someone from our state to do something
like this? And that's they said, wait for that ship
to start up, let alone the human toll on people.
The war between the states would be electoral gold miles

(41:40):
fucking jackpot, baby, I'm sorry, where do you live? Oh?
I live in a I live in a brownstone that's
paid for and I kind of just like passively collect
income from this, like first apartment I had actually in Dumbo,
which was great. I bought it for like a laugh
in the eighties. But yeah, and now I'm like selling
it and I'm like thinking for like seven grand a month,

(42:01):
it's pretty cool. And then I write these pieces about
people's dwindling rights and why it's like don't worry, Like
McConnell just handed an l to himself and we're all
just people. Let's all just hold hands and get along again.
This is the thing. More and more, this like emphasis on,
like we'll just get engaged that one day a week
when we beg for your vote, and then ignore everything

(42:23):
every you know, for three years at a time. There's
something that's just so offensive and absurd, and I think
most people aren't able to quite articulate it yet. But
it's this idea that people who are able to do
something about it are sitting on their hands and acting
like this is on you, right, And that's just I
don't think they don't even realize how that's polling. I

(42:44):
mean the kind of subconscious level with people. They just
need to hang this around their head. Um the New
York Times. I still get the Sunday Times because I'm
al and the this one right here at the very
top left corner, abortions ponder a world after row falls.
So they're abortion foes. It's all just friends and shoe

(43:05):
and yeah, movement sees goals beyond legislation. The sprawling anti
abortion grassroots campaign, which as we talked about, is like
funded by a handful of like very very wealthy people.
Obviously there are anti choice people, but like the way
that it has become this big is not grassroots. It's
by taking massive the Judicial Crisis Network spending ten million

(43:29):
dollars per nominee in messaging and ships. Sprawling anti abortion
grassroots campaign is rapidly approaching an entirely new era, one
in which abortion would no longer be a nationally protected
right to overcome, but a decision to be legislated by
individual states. So it's just telling they're like, WHOA, what
if we told this story from the perspective of the

(43:52):
anti abortion fascists like that would be kind of cool,
right to, Like, I mean, people haven't thought about it,
that would they Like I saw this Kendrick video and
like I was like, it's all about perspective, and so
I'm just like, what if I told the story? Yeah,
but I mean, this is this is what happens like
neo liberalism, just like being confused in the face of fascions.

(44:15):
We see this in history a bunch like a lot,
you know, just sitting on your hands when people are
telling you out loud, yeah, we might ban abortion federally,
so fucking nobody can can has any sort of right
to bodily autonomy. And then we'll take away contraception and
you'll have no choice but to create more people to

(44:37):
you know, work under whatever Coke Brothers fuel Nightmary of it.
This is why I got my tubes tied when I
did like one of the reasons. Seriously, I was like,
I don't I'm not confident that I that this country,
I will have easy and safe access to legal like
access to safe legal abortions. Move forward, And how much

(45:02):
of a fucking ordeal was it for you to even
get to the point where you could extremely difficult it
was so many hurdles to guess the bodily autonomy things
all over again. Sure, you want to do this, you
want to do this. It was. I had people tell
me doctors and such say like, you won't you like,
no surgeon will even do this until you're thirty five,

(45:25):
especially if you don't already have children. You know, just
all these people saying like, oh, if you're not married,
no one will do if you're just like a single person.
That sounds like one of those doctors that's part of
those like evangelical doctors groups where they're like, I'm on
the front line of convincing people from doing such radical things.

(45:45):
It was. And then I finally found someone who's just
like and it was also kind of dismissive to where
I was like, yeah, I was told I had to
wait until I was thirty five, and I should have
just advocated for myself harder. But also that's such a
burden to take on, and that's what ah. But uh,
I found someone and I was like, hey, um, I'm
gonna get my tubes tied. I'm thirty five, so I'm

(46:06):
allowed to do it now, question Mark, And he's like,
you could have gone it done earlier, and I was like,
could I have though, like I tried. Yeah, He's like, sorry,
you probably yeah, He's like, I would have done it. Yeah.
There are some weird doctors out there who are gonna
want to get in your head and make you question
a decision you you didn't. It's like you saw some
fucking commercial and we're like, yeah, this sounds cool, like

(46:27):
as if you're not a person who's taking their own
life into account and coming to this decision on their own,
but rather than being patronizing and tweeting, treating like some
confused person off the street, right. It was. And then
every every nurse in that office was also like, wait,
so how many kids do you have? And I was
like zero? And they're like, so you just don't want

(46:48):
to have kids? And I was like, uh huh, like
no one could wrap their heads. Every uh, like every
person who like the antithesiologist when I was having the surgery,
all nurses when I was having the surgery, they're just like, okay,
so how many kids do you have? And like you're
like you're done having kids? And I was like, uh yeah, yeah,

(47:09):
I have zero and I'm done. And they're like what
And it's just it's a baffling. I mean, I know
we're talking about something different than abortion right now, but
like it's all it's all under this. It's like a
part of this umbrella of the same ideology of like
people with uteruses are seeing there, like the means of production,

(47:32):
and and uh, we want to be able to control that,
and it's horrifying. No, that's uh, that's uterine communism. You're
not gonna see the means of production. It's gonna we're
gonna the capitalists will dictate to you that the manner
in which life is produced. It's yeah, it's yeah. But
like you know, this is all part of a larger

(47:53):
culture that we're in that is already even in situations
where it should be something as simple as high I
would like this procedure that is safe and it's not
like it's immoral and I'm entitled to leakally as long
as I'm eighteen or did you think about this, dude? No,
you're sucking up right there. The conversation ends when I
say this is what I want to need and I'm

(48:14):
not break the law. Don't fucking you're not trying to.
You don't need to save me, I've made a decision. Yep.
So many parts of our society and important parts, they're
just so much more conservative and like retrograde. And that
then Americans realized, and Americans don't realize it because they

(48:34):
aren't interested in other countries, so like they don't know
what what other countries are like. So they're just like,
this is the best there is. All right, that's what
I've been told America number one. Alright, let's say a
quick break. We'll come back, we'll talk about dudes and
they're chet washing habits, and we're back, and Miles, this

(49:08):
is yours. This is a story that you're bringing to us.
I don't know if I believe it, dude, but all right, man,
go ahead. I read it and I was like just
reading through this whole article, and I was like, oh god,
I'm once was one of these people. So here's something
that doesn't really need a survey to get to the
bottom of it. But about how many young single men

(49:30):
do you think change their sheets regularly? Now regularly? Already
up Now you're thinking, like a gross dude, just generally
from your I'm just positing that what is it what
you and you can create your own timeline. You can
you can say I believe x percent only do it

(49:52):
X times a year or every once every x years
or whatever you think. I mean, if it's angually, that's
still a disgusting like health hazard to everybody, um even
sits on your bed. But if that is included and
the I don't know, I'd say fifty percent of people

(50:20):
do it regularly, including like including an annual change. Okay,
this is okay, and this is also just you know,
this is a group of young men in the UK
about around people, Caitlin, what about you? Okay, I think
that only five of men change slash wash their sheets

(50:40):
as frequently as once a month. I would say it's
maybe something like twenty percent wash and change their sheets
as frequently as like once every three months, and it
just it keeps. I would say, like, what is that?

(51:01):
What these reactions? Jack? I would say, um, fifty of
men No, I would say, like, only four forty do
it more frequently than once every six months. That's okay,
let me let me let me get you with some answers.
So after this survey, almost half of single men said

(51:26):
they don't wash their bed sheets for up to four
months at a time. With twelve percent admitting they wash
them when they remember, which could be even long. What
is that? It looks like yeah, and you know this

(51:46):
is uh? They go on to like what is CAUSI now?
I I can speak for myself. When I was living,
like when I was in college and I was not
sharing a bed with a person, it was like my
like depression chamber of like being crushed by life. Like
I didn't know who I was, a non fully formed person.
I was like doing a lot of drugs and drinking

(52:07):
a ton and just like I just didn't give a funk.
I was like who cares, dude, Like I just get
in here. It's my fucking problem. Like I'm not asking anybody.
And I would do the panick thing like if company
was coming over, I would never I would. I would
put on the air that I was a sheet changer,
you know what I mean? And how would you do that?
What do you mean? Like I would I would just yeah, yeah, yeah.

(52:29):
I was like I knew. I was like, no, I
can't have people look like because I knew. I was like, man,
this pillow case is starting to smell like my gym
shirt from junior, Like and I and I just didn't.
I just didn't. It just wasn't processing that way. But
they're also kind of pointing to this other thing, like,
you know, men do it like sort of like weaponized
incompetence to like if they're living with a partner, they

(52:50):
may do that just to be like I can't do it,
so like I'm probably gonna it up. Maybe you can
do it, you know, like they shoulders up. And but
I think also, you know, I think there's also women
who also responded to this survey. Are women identifying Respondents

(53:12):
to the survey said every two weeks. I'm on that now.
I'm every I'm an every two week person. I'm glad
to hear that that's the most I go. It's two weeks. Yeah, weekly,
But definitely identify with um the collegiate. You know, I

(53:32):
don't remember what my routine was, but I also don't
remember and much of college. So and that has to
do with the alcohol and drug intakes that you were
referencing before, my inability to uh function as a as
a fully formed adults human. Yeah, there were some dudes

(53:53):
who are like, I shower at night, so I don't
do it. So that's why I don't do it. Don't
get dirty. Yeah, but over time that may be the case,
but like you still need to probably change your sheets.
Another thing was just sort of about obviously because of
you know, patriarchy, misogyny, there's just no pressure on men

(54:14):
societally to to not be good hygiene generally exactly, and
that that's another huge part of it. And some other
people think like it could also just be a fact
of like how little especially like I think probably men
in the Western hemisphere communicate their needs or emotions or
like anything out that so you're just turned into an

(54:36):
inward like gross bed person. I don't know. They were
like many different sort of perspectives and like what could
be driving it Just the way that like some men
are not can like conditioned, are brought up in a
way that they generally have to do any household domestic
chores that is like, no, that's what a woman does.
You don't have to do laundry. You're a man, you know.

(55:00):
One of my first serious girlfriends saw how I was
like lick living and they're like, you just think a
woman is gonna do all this, huh? And I was like, no, No,
I just don't need any of it. I was like
I just don't look I'm good without a woman and
it's not getting done. Then you're like wait, and then
I had to really think. I'm like, oh my god,
I'm gross. And I've completely like I truly without even

(55:24):
realizing how like patriarchy brained I was. I was like
fuck yeah, because in my mind, like the rhythm of
my life going into high school was my mother could
help me do something. And then like when you take
that out, like it just turned into like a runaway
gross train and I had to get called on it.
To even begin trying to like become a less gross

(55:47):
person took about seven years. Yep, good and yeah um
and then but ever since, you know, I've been with her, majesty,
I've been fully She worked with me to be a
fully formed person, very clean. Now. In fact, I have
white sheets now that's I usually go with like off colors,
because I was like, man, you can't tell if that's
it's dirty, and that's that's that's dangerous, especially if you've

(56:10):
got like a dog maybe with some canine tail turt
thank you, thank you. I don't know. I think they're
called canine tail turts, the official medical term veterinary, but yeah,
that we're again. It was it was interesting to see

(56:32):
how like nailed on this kind of like over like
half for like four months. Horrible, horrifying. Anyways, some people
say it should be once a week. I'm like, damn,
once a week. That just feels like a lot of water.
Though that that's that does feel excessive to me, especially
if I don't so I don't have laundry in my unit,

(56:54):
I have to go elsewhere to do laundry. And it's
so it always feels like so much more of a chore.
So I have to be very strategic about like, Okay,
what am I washing? What can I brain? What can
I carry you to this other place? But yeah, things
like you know, sheets, towels, underwears, you know, let's wash.
Oh yeah, the towel. I mean that was what I

(57:15):
had to do. I remember reading an article that was like,
you know, you have to wash your towel, right brod
clean when I use it? Why would I need to what?
I'm wiping off the cleanest water, dude on my butt
hole to clean this water, and then who knows after
when I washed my face the next day, I'm drying
my face off with the asshole towel, but it was

(57:38):
the cleanest version of my asshole. It could have touched
like that's the logic. I'm sorry. Fuck growth. Yeah, it's important.
It's important. And be easy on yourself, you know, if
this is you, okay. Something I think about a lot
is how let's look at the bird kingdom, the birds
of the animal kingdom, shall we? And how this is

(58:00):
going somewhere? I promise the males in many, if not
most birds species. I'm not a bird expert. My master's
degree is not in bird sciences. It is been writing,
and I would never bring that up. But I've watched enough,
you know, like Life of Birds Specials. But anyway, male

(58:21):
birds they are the sexier birds. They are the ones
doing all the dancing and the mating calls and the
flipping flapping of their wings to attract the females. And
I think that we as a human society, and this,
I mean, this is me speaking in a very kind

(58:42):
of sis heteronormative space here, and I realized, but I
would like to see a complete inversion of how things
are where men are just they're doing all the long,
they're cleaning everything, they're They're hygiene is amazing they're putting
on the best clothes, they're doing all the dances, they're flipping,

(59:03):
they're flapping their wings, so to speak. And and I
can just be a lazy, disgusting sitting in my own
filth all the time, slob. They're like right talking on
your phone with the other husband friends. Like, I can't
believe it, bro Jenny again, because she wants she want.
She doesn't throw away her dirty underwear. She wears it

(59:25):
every day to work. And I'm just like, you gotta
get rid of it. Just disgusting. She stinks when she
gets home. It's like women are so gross, you know.
And that's that's the society that I think we should move.
I just want to be gross. And I have so
much about primping. Men should be putting on makeup and
and and learning dances. They're learning to all that stuff.

(59:47):
Let's let's do bird stuff, creating finally ornamented uh nests
with different pieces of garbage that you've picked up, that
are garbage that I've left behind, sucking throw I made
you this small cove. Those metallic those metallic rice Crispy

(01:00:08):
treats rappers, the blue ones. Yeah, those are like that's
like like the most high level decor. You can have
our birds next. Yeah, and you know you go, fellas
start collecting them. Um this fellas just put all your
trash on your bed and say they get this beautiful
nest I've built for us. Yeah, We're yeah that that

(01:00:32):
is the goal. And on the other hand, I feel
like the SNL sketch with Pete Davidson be like, okay,
is the reality is probably the best depiction of modern
American men that I've seen. Okay, okay, we've just turned
to gross birds in our bed nests filled with trash,

(01:00:54):
can't wait sitting on an egg of our own emotions
were unwilling to examine. Caitlin, such a pleasure having you
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it's it's pinned the like ticket link and stuff is
pinned to the top, so check that out. That would

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be wonderful. We're trying to help raise money for this
great organization. You can listen to the Beck Dold Cast
that that person Jamie Loftus and I co host together.
We talk about movies. We examine movies through an intersectional
feminist lens. We says about it. I think that that'll do.

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Just sit That's amazing. And is there a tweet or
some of the work of social media you've been enjoying.
Apologies of this has been brought up, but you know me,
and you know how I love to book end something.
So we were talking about Paddington at the top of
the show. I'd love to end the show talking about
Paddington some more. At j the Chow Photo shops Paddington

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into a work of film or television every single day,
so he just takes a still image of a famous
movie or TV show he photoshops Paddington into it. He's
been doing this for over a year now, and it's
the best thing I've ever seen. And I did tweet

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at Jay asking if they wanted to be my best friend?
No response, what the fuck? I know? But I still
appreciate the work that Jay is doing. Yeah, I mean,
that's a good friend to have, you know. That's also
just an amazing like testament to you know the fact

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that you're really in it for the Paddington too, that
you went through with the plug even though they haven't
gotten back to you, which, yeah, exactly. M hmm. Just
winning the Bird Case. Wait what I think this is
the one? You are the one that oh someone tagged
you into, the one where Paddington is sitting on a

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bench but next to Nathan Lane and Robin Williams from
the Bird Case. Huh speaking of bird Kate, it's all
coming Yeah, look at us, Look at us. Miles. Where
can people find you? What the tweet you've been enjoying? Oh?
Find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray.

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If you like basketball, check out Miles and Jack Got
Mad Boost. These are basketball podcast and if you like
weed in reality TV, check out four Fiance uh, where
I talk about some tweets that I like. Man, there's
something about societal dysfunction that brings out the best of Twitter.
At times, Um New York Times pitch bot at Doug J.

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Balloon tweeted, this is like two real. We wanted to
understand how the row reversal will affect treatment for things
like a topic pregnancies, So we talked to four unvaccinated
firemen at a sparrow in Staten Island. And that's yeah,
that that that might actually be a thing. I'm not sure,
so it's hard to know. Doug. Uh and then uh

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at Nick Gosling at Nick Underscore Calico tweeted me drunkenly
throwing my arm around Yoda's net. You know what, you're
fucking cool my book? Yeah, your little green bass start
Yoda spilling voodoo Ranger all over himself. Good to drive?
I am, oh man, the drunk friend who insists they're

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good to drive? What a time? It's Yoda? Come on, Yoda,
you should be wise enough to know your limits. Man.
That was a good Yoda impression that Myles. I'm impressed, right,
you know It's funny. I was having a he didn't
he had a discussion about frank Cos yesterday with somebody
he would Yoda and Kermit. Wait did they disagree with that? No?

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I was talking about like Hermit Hermit voices over the years,
and I had mentioned frank Oz off handily and they
were dismissive of it. And I said, did you hear
me say frank Oz? And they're like, sure, I guess.
I'm like, you're not even fucking with the voices like that.
If you don't give it up to frank Oz. See
your weekend. You're having an actual conversations with people. And

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I would be having the argument with like my six
year old or four year old where they just disagreed
and said, no, he's not He's not that voice. I mean,
full disclosure. I was having this argument at a Disney
store at the mall with a kid and I'm sorry,
did you hear me? No, I'm just walking with my mom, sir,

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Hey did you? So? Now I gotta go. This kid
is disrespecting one of the greatest points I've been this place,
and I'm out. Like it's been a rough time. It's
been a rough couple of months. Yeah, you took the
closing of the Disney stores hard and to the point
that you're still hanging around where they used to be
in and now they're just it's a It turns out

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this one was an Express so just I got an
argument with a teenager trying to get ready for their prom.
You can find me on Twitter at Jack Undersquirrel. Brian
John Feminella tweeted optimist the glasses half full, lill pessimist
the glasses half empty. Excel the glasses January second just
a real straightforward Excel joke. I don't it's over my head.

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Have you ever tried to put a one one half
into Excel? They automatically converted to the date anytime you
put one slash to January second. I get it. Okay,
all right, So I like ones that you kind of
have to see in front of you to get kind
of like to read them out loud and then be like, oh,

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you don't get it. You're fine. You can find me
doing fun stuff like that on Twitter at Jack Underscore. O'Brien.
You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're
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we post our episodes. On our footnotes, we're link off

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to the information that we talked about in today's episode,
as well as the song that we think you might enjoy. Miles,
what song do we think people might enjoy? Oh, let's uh,
let's do a track that passed the Jack O'Brien, what's
what is that test? Last week when we were looking
at some TikTok videos, but there was this one track
that was actually pretty good by the artist oh No,
who if you like beats, is the brother of mad Lib,

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the fucking legend, And this track is called The Whole,
and it's just a very like gritty kind of like
spy guitar, spy backbeat feels very spy like. So you know,
when you I don't know, but I don't know if
you listen to music in different situations to make this
time more interesting, do this when you're up to some ship.
So this is the Whole by oh No. I was

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thinking a spy movie, but you were like, for your
spying needs, this is this is a good one to have.
In my mind, I was going back to a time
when I was like doing illegal things and I was like, wait,
this is not who I am and I don't know
why I was progressing crappy be microes. All right, well
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