March 27, 2018 • 57 mins
In episode 112, Jack & Miles are joined by comedian Ify Nwadiwe to discuss Stormy Daniels' 60 Minutes interview, the March For Our Lives, Fox & Friends not knowing how to deal, gun videos on Porn Hub, a round up of quick news stories, & more.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season twenty four, episode
one of Daily Zeitgeist for March two thousand eight. Team,
my name is Jack O'Brien a ka Matta Jack Scar
three Europe's most Wanted. Uh, that's courtesy of Riley Schmidt.
I don't know if he would want me to say
who that was courtesy of, but giving him a shout
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out anyways, and I am thrilled to be joined as
always by my co host Mr Miles Great, Thank you.
I'm today I'm gonna be experimental Japanese visual artist, your
boy Kusama, Thank you so much to my boy Kevin
Parker playing for that a k. And if you don't
know who Yayoi Kusama is, look up for work. Anyone
who has been to a museum, Instagram something is probably
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a one of her exhibitions. Bit of culture with the
ak look it's Monday. I'm just kidding into yep. I
think I win with Matta Jack Scar maybe Europe's most Wanted.
And we are thrilled to be joined in our third
seat by the hilarious comedian if he wad Away, if
man If man if man if man like. Yeah. By
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the way, Shadow a lot of Zykegangers. Uh happened on
the Twitch? Yeah, yes, coming through and they're and they're
doing what I asked, just using that zygang hashtag. Let
no yeah gang and we're we're we're out here right
there in Fortnite. We're out here in every every point. Yeah,
we're gonna talk about But if he first up, what
is something from your search history that is feeling better?
(01:25):
You are? Oh? Man um? Oh yeah. So there's a
meme going around where that black kid crying and it's
actually like an African kid crying and somebody, one of
my friends, Connie Shin, she was like, does he might
want to know why? Like this kid is crying, like
you know, it's a meme And I was like, oh no,
it's from an African movie because I saw someone posted
(01:47):
the longer clips, so I know the origin, but I
was trying to look for it so I can watch it.
But it's an Hollywood movie where it's two boys who
are raising money and their dad's like a drunk or something,
and then they just discovered that their ad stole all
their money that they've been doing chores around them. Because
the kid looks oh yeah, yeah, he's like I cannot
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believe could he do this? Who are they using that for?
What was that mean that? Because I just saw it
this morning. What was the one for? Um, they're the
one I saw it for. It was like, uh or
I used it when people when Arizona lost and I
was like, oh, all the people who have Arizona winning
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their brackets right. Yeah, but it's it's used a lot.
But the new one that's hit is the video that's
like oh my god, my god, yeah, oh my god. Yeah.
So yeah, yeah that I believe. That's not either Notllywood
or Gollywood, which has gone in movies, but usually it's
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it's nigeriar so and those are the most popping You're
not even patting myself from the back of my homie
David Borre, he's from Sierra Leone and he was like, yeah, no,
Nollywood's popping out there. People think Nigerians are so cool
and it's like, yeah, you know, what is something that's underrated? Underrated? Look,
I'm very late. I'm very late on this, so I'm
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gonna say that. But the good place I just was
watching it. Yeah, and even though a lot of people
were saying it was good, I feel like a lot
of people don't like it's the jokes are wall to
wall on top of each other. And you know, I
also shout out my homies, which your Darcy card he's
in look Good Place, but also my buddy Anthony Kerrigan
(03:34):
and Kirby who are all in Berry Berry Great and
that might fly under your radar. But it's written, directed,
and a starring Bill Hayter uh and it's it's funny.
It's funny. As I went to the premier, so all
two episodes very funny. What's our character called Stacy or
what's it called? On the Good Place? People are trying
(03:55):
to get like Alexa mod for that's anybody who's but yes,
you can just say Janet. But yeah, that show was
one of the same thing where you heard I heard
everybody talking about it, but I was like, look, most people,
most shows you talk about are not good. And then
I started watching it and I was so blown away.
I was like, I was giddy watching because the writing
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he's amazing, and the performances Dad dad dancing, you know,
good to see him. Oh man, Yeah, he's really him
and Darcy really just make that show next level. What
is something that you think is overrated? If I think
overrated is being on the wave of the outrage where
(04:37):
like you're like, okay, Like I hate seeing the same
message over, like the same take over and over, Like
I feel like it is better if you amplify the
voices that have already said what you're trying to say, like, oh,
I read that and I'm gonna say it, you know.
Like I feel like I see this a lot where
like one person is you know, calling something out or
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talking about something. I think the one thing that has
been um going on recently is just the kind of
obvious difference in how you know, UH protests, black people
protesting versus like the Parkland kids protesting. And I feel like,
you know a lot of people have been having that
conversation in a way where it's like, yeah, this is
(05:21):
a problem we should address, but also we should keep
in mind that, you know, this is the first time
everyone's on board. But then I feel like it turns
to a game of uh telephone where it's gotten to
the point where some people are like fuck these Parkland kids,
and it's like no, no, no, Like I get what
you're where you're coming from, but you can you know,
(05:43):
we we are complex human beings. We don't have to
just say one or the other. We can be like this,
support this, but also realized this and said that that's
those are the voices that are clearly getting the most ears. Well,
and it's because people make that and then they they
have an emotion about it and then they just say
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it instead of just sharing this voice of like yeah,
this person says that, you know so, because I feel
like this is a contest of like where the fringe
tries to make the hottest, spiciest take and not necessarily
try and like, you know, really spread the take because
what what these kids are advocating for is something that
everyone will benefit too. And I think, yeah, people are
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really upset. Clearly they have a reason to be, because
these kinds of problems have affected many other communities in
much greater way. But again, yeah, it's like, sure, I
get that this is somehow the way that people are
starting to listen, but this is America, and I think
we knew that, Yeah, this is sort of how ship
has been working. Sadly, I'm not resigned to that fact,
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but that we have to be real of what the
reality is of how sort of these kinds of rhetorical
discussions and you know how movements work in this kind
of ye And also it's just like if you're paying
close attention, the kids are aware of that. The kids
are so much ahead of the woke curve than we are.
And it's because they probably spent most of their time
on Tumbler before this all happened, you know, they like
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they they've been checking their privilege and like really trying
to lift up black voices as they as they move forward.
And that's what's cool is you've got all these people
because and I feel like that's what happens when things
start growing, is people try and nitpick and find holes
and because no one can just rise, you gotta find
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something wrong with it, just in the same way like
they lift you up so they can tell you. And
so I feel like it's getting to that point where
they're trying to find holes, but the kids are ahead
of the game. Like the holes that you're trying to
point out, they've already been working on fixing that. It's
like Twitter wokeness, Judo, It's like, I'm going to use
your wokeness against you to show that I am even
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more woke than you. And it's just like, no, we
can just both have good points. And the New York
Times podcast The Daily It's More actually interviewed some kids
from inner city Chicago who have been working on you know,
gun access and you know, restricting gun access, making it
less easy for people to you know, smuggle guns into Chicago,
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and uh, they are sort of jumping on this Parkland
thing and while acknowledging, Yeah, the reason that this is
being becoming a national issue is because they're like, the
households in their community make three times as much as
the households in our community, and that's fucked up. But
this is our opportunity and you know, getting a getting
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a national stage and using that word what Mike drop
hashtag might drop, he's just he's just r I P
just killed the club. Uh. If you what is a myth?
What's something that people think is true out there that
you know to be false. I think, you know, we
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we went heavy with the overrated. Let's let's keep it light.
Myth is if you lift weights, you go and give buff.
That's not true that like you're gonna get buff. But
it takes more than just lifting weights like buff you're
gonna gain muscle. But I know lots of times like
whenever I suggest resistance training to like my female friends,
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they're like, it's like when you join the political movement
resistance they're they're always like, oh no, I don't want
to be bulky and buffed trying to look tone. It
was like, that's how you get tone. You need resistance training,
Like cardio can only do so much. But it's a
combination of your diet and some resistance training to build
that muscle. That's that's what you're seeing. That's tone is muscle. Uh,
(09:43):
trust me, so many, so many women go through so
many loophole like loops and hoops to just build muscle
because it's so hard because your bodies are weird and
you have to like eat high carbs. Like if you're
trying to build muscle, it's not as simple as lifting weights.
Like if you're a skinny person trying to get big,
(10:04):
you have to do a lot of eating. You're gonna
have to fight against your metabolism. Uh. And if you're
then you fight against metabolism. If you're a big person
trying to get small, but lift heavyweights, it helps. You've
been Yeah, you've been on Ah, I think I met
you maybe like a year ago when we were trying
to do something out wired, like when we really first met,
(10:25):
and I think at the time, were you just starting
to like really get into weightlifting At the time, I
was just starting within the first beginnings of it, because
I remember that's when you were really talking about it.
I feel like, and you've you've you've had a metamorphosis. Yeah, no,
I've That's when I had like my confidence in it
because there was very a lot of trial and error.
Like I've been lifting weights maybe for like seriously for
(10:46):
like six seven years, but I've never felt comfortable because
everyone would be like, how did you do it? How
did you do it? And I would just lift the
things and read stuff to support it. But like at
that point where you met me is when I actually
started like learning why, you know, the mechanics mechanics of it,
And then I felt more comfortable being outspoken about it
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because my biggest fear is like dropping some quote unquote
knowledge and just like a real deal person coming and
be like, well, actually, no, nice try kill monger. Yeah,
you guys, check if he's Instagram if you really want
to see this guy. He's not lying. He's throwing plates
around in the weight room around like a dishwasher. All right,
(11:29):
let's get into the stories of the day. Yes, because
we had we had a big one over the weekend. Uh,
and we're labeling this the story least likely to be
on Fox and Friends this morning. So Stormy Daniels went
on sixty minutes last night, and their ratings quote easily
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outpaced the last Marquee episode Trump's two thousand and sixteen
interview on sixty minutes, but it's still trails Barack Obama's uh,
where he scored twenty four point five five millions. So
Stormy Daniels scored twenty million. And uh, I just I
just feel like that specific detail that her ratings beat
Trump and yet still couldn't reach Barack Obama's like probably
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is just destroying him alive from the inside out. Um.
I watched the I watched the interview. Uh. My takeaways
are that I was sad for her because you know,
she talks about how she goes to his room. Anderson
Cooper's like, you were twenty seven, he was sixty. Were
you attracted to him? She says no? He was like
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did you want to have sex with him? She says no.
He was like, but you did and she's like yeah,
And he was like, did you get or did he
get consent? And she's basically she's just like, yeah, I
felt like I had to because I had gone to
his room. She was like, a Stormy, you really did
it to yourself this time because she went to his room,
and that automatically meant that, you know, uh, she had
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to have sex with him. And I don't know, I've
just I think we've all been in situations where we
feel like we need to do something because people expect
us to do it, and it's always a matter of
self esteem whether you end up doing that thing or not.
And it just feels like a shitty position for her
to have put herself in. Another another tale of sort
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of the invisible male core Yeah work. It reminded me
of the A. Z story in the sense that it
wasn't like clean cut and you know, you can't necessarily
group it into the two things. When she said now
like you could see, she was like not and like
yeah and yeah, even her kind of I think she
literally said something to the fact of like, uh, Stormy,
look what you got yourself into the kind of thing
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and did Yeah, that was a little yeah, it's just
again a reflection of the society that we're in. Another takeaway,
gross third takeaway, I I sort of started to understand
it from her perspective. So she, you know, had this
experience with Trump, told the story for money, like when
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it wasn't a big deal in two thousand and ten
or eleven before, like he had any presidential aspirations, made
some money on the side, uh, And then it got
leaked to the Wall Street Journal that there was you know,
Trump's campaign came to her and offered to pay her
money to not say anything. She accepted that, and then
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it was leaked by the Wall Street Journal that they
did have this affair and there was hush money in place,
and Trump came out and said she was lying about
having the affair. And that's when she came out and
started talking about it. It It wasn't like she forced the issue.
It was that she basically was being called a liar
and uh, you know, an opportunist by the right before
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she and I mean that's her version of the story. Now,
you know, some people say she's not uh, you know,
reliable source. But one of my favorite things about this
is how I feel like, uh, you know, Stormy is
ready for this, you know, like she sees people coming
at her on Twitter and it does not bug her
because this is what people are trying to do, is
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how stories like this get shut down. They bully you.
You're getting like yelled at by people online. So then
you just start changing up your story. You're afraid. But
Stormy at this point it's like, no, this is it's facts,
and you can try calling me all the horrors and
and sluts you want, but I'm gonna speak my truth. Yeah. Well,
and the interesting thing too is a lot of people
like kind of speculating or I was reading on Slater
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I think this morning about how they a lot of
people think that her whole legal strategy is basically because
the endgame is to sell dick pics of the president.
And they say that because you know, in the agreement
that she signed that Trump didn't sign, the one that
they're trying to nullify. Uh, there's like a lot of
like for people who have read and nondisclosure agreements, they
said like they're sort of very specific um stuff written
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in there about how like any images or text messages
have to be given over to Michael Cohen and that
any any of those things are like basically copy written
material of Donald Trump, like it's his intellectual property essentially,
So if the agreement is nullified, then that is not
his intellectual property, and then she can go and you
know how like her lawyer, Michael Avanadi had like tweeted
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a photo of like a DVD and like a safe
and it was like if a picture can say a
thousand words, like whoa, that's pretty that's pretty wild, but like, yeah,
they're so one of the ideas is that would open
her up to then being able to like basically sell
stuff to the highest bidder, to like whatever outlet would
publish it. Vivid is just pulling all their resources to
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get that DVD you want. Are they still doing well
because they used to have a nice headquarter, not nice
but a big building. Yeah, yeah, you still see it,
but I don't know, it looks like one of those
buildings that that are like back in the day, this
was a nice building that I grew up right down
the street from it. Like in the nineties that was
like that building was popping and now it's like, uh,
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you know, well, the times have changed. The Internet. Are
people still paying for porn that is a question that
I do not know the answer to, but that's crazy.
I guess her her she said her sales are going up,
so apparently that oh yeah, no. I looked into this
because so porn hub has a ranking system for their
adult actresses, and I went back and I looked up
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so Stormy Daniels was number one the last I checked
on porn hub and before that, because I went to
look up which one is the one that Ted Cruz
was looking up Chase Chase? Uh, I think porn. Well,
what was funny is like I was following her on Snapchat,
like I was. I was a fan before she was popping.
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So when I saw her name, I was like, oh,
that's weird. I know that porn but yeah her she
jumped up when during the Ted Cruse stuff. So this
stuff really does make your you know, your VIDs come
to the spotlight valid strategy? Yeah, I think, actually yes
I did, because I tweeted her porn star number and
I was like, just all, you know, it boost your ranking.
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So if any other porn star has any stories about
any politicians, it's like a syndication, you like, you're giving
it life after the fact. The only other detail, uh,
that jumped out to me, so I knew that there
was a threat involved where somebody threatened her to like
drop the story, stopped telling the story, basically forget that
she had an affair with Trump. And I thought that
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had happened like recently or at least after the election,
But it actually happened back in two thousand eleven, so
before people really knew about it and before Trump had
a political career. So it wasn't like some Trump supporter
just came up and threatened her, you know, because they
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thought she was threatening his career. It was definitely either
someone from Trump side or Cohen, who I don't know
if you've seen Michael Cohen interviewed h he's pretty He's
kind of just stereotype of a you know, New York
mobbed up attorney. So yeah, it seems like a playbook
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for like, you know, this kind of ship. If you're
like a high powered person who's used to basically using
money or force to intimidate people and to do whatever
you want, it wouldn't strike me as like, oh no,
they would also use threats against somebody somebody just walked
up and was like, cute daughter, would be a shame
of something where that happen to her mother. Don't talk
about Mr Trump, you know, bye bye and disappeared. Yeah,
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And you know she's not lying because when like I
think when Anderson Cooper asked like, oh, would you know
who it was, She's like no, She's like, but if
I saw his face, I would remember. And you're like, yeah,
that's definitely some ship. When you got through some ship,
you would not forget someone's face. People one morning, Joe,
we're like, why didn't he have pictures to show her?
Right then? Because they're trying to sell that ship, right,
I'm telling you that watch No, No, I mean of
the person of like different people's faces who are like
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associates of Trump and going through it. The crazy thing too,
was like on Fox and Friends, just to kind of
go off how we were starting it, they basically none
of the hosts actually said her name this morning, Like
there were mentions of it by other people, none of
the hosts actually said her name. And you know how
many times they said Hillary Clinton times? Um, so cool.
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That's what's been wild is Someone also pointed out that
any time people tweet or put a stormy in a headline,
they add porn star to it, and they're saying, like
if she was a lawyer, they wouldn't add her job
her job titled to any of her descriptions because it's
the additional like shaming of somebody who's working in pornography,
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and yeah, making the headlined seemingly more delacious. Yeah, I mean,
and Fox and Friends not mentioning her name. I mean
they're just taking their lead from their head of programming president. Yeah,
he's not mentioning her. Don't trigger the boss. All right,
we're going to take a quick break, will be right back,
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and we're back. And we wanted to talk about the
March for Our Lives that happened over the weekend. I
know a lot of people who were there. Uh, I
didn't get downtown today, you guys go I was recording
the Bechdel Cast, but my mom went in my stead
to Kids Choice Awards. So yeah, you really really out
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here for these kids. See, people want to march for
the kids. I'm trying to be up trying to say
like I met with them, but you know that's tricky wording. Anyways,
a lot of people did go there, and uh, Fox
News didn't really know how to react to all these
(21:44):
You know, young elementary school kids. Like uh, Crooked media
went down there and interviewed all the people on the street,
and it was like, you know, these eleven year olds
who like told their grandma they wanted to come down
and like so they drove for like hours to get
there to go to the protests and just this really
intense outpouring of just organic sort of democratic energy and organic.
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Well we'll see Fox Fox has a word or two
to say about that. So, uh, let's let's hear how
they tried to cover the march for Our Lives. There's
something to be said for this. I mean, that's that's
hundreds of thousands of people, and I had conversations a
lot of them, um, and they really have no idea
what they're talking about, especially with guns. Kind of feel
(22:31):
sorry for some of them without putting them on the spot, um,
but they seem to be very very misguided. But there's emotion,
and emotion drives politics. Well, I mean, I think we
had talked about the fact that this march was going
to take place, and one of the things that Peter
Doucy had mentioned was that initially it felt like it
was more organic that there was some students getting together
after the Valentine's Day event in Parkling, Florida. And then
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now it's almost as effive celebrity movement. It's Hollywood feel
and and that's that's what I wanted to ask you about.
So I definitely feel a lot of that. It's it's
a blendball enforces. A lot of students were being bust
and which is to be without sudden. You could tell
by the T shirts and the big coach busses that
are And I was asking, who's paying for this? First
of all, I mean, it's hiz, twelve coach busses coming
in with police escorts. Is I was driving it? Here's
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the funny thing. First of all, they they're using armed
guards for this whole thing, which I think is one
of the greatest ironies of a gun control march. Yeah, okay,
so um, but was it USDA organic? Do you know
how organic this march was? Right? So, first of all,
I like just the condescension that where he's like that
these people don't know what they're talking about around guns. Uh,
(23:38):
they just want gun control, I guess. But then she
refers to the Valentine's Day event in Parkland, which sounds
like it's like a silent auction fundraiser for like a
private school or something, or like a sail at a
fucking car dealership coming for the Valentine's Day event of
the year. Right, So it was just a fun Valentine's
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Day event that they're responding to and they all decided
to have this get together, but clearly they were being
funded by high level soros or Hollywood Royalty, because how
else could these filthy poppers afford the notoriously luxurious mode
of transport that is the fucking bus man. Well, also
(24:25):
it's it's like, Wow, you guys are crying over and
being afraid of the kids, and you think the way
you're gonna win their support is just by shipping on them.
And it just goes to show you just that this
kind of change of tradition that's happening because their mindset
is that you're wrong because you're a child, not because
you're actually wrong, but you're wrong because I'm an adult.
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And it's just like Danny DeVito's monologue in Matilda. You know, yeah,
I hit you with that deep. But this is the
main reason they're gonna lose this generation is be because
they feel like they don't have to fight for them.
They're like, no, you need to listen. You're misguided and
you are only helping push them away more because you
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are shipping on these people. And when you say the
irony is that they have armed guards in a gun
control rally, just proves yet again, you don't know what
gun control is. You're just you are the misguided one. Right.
They object to the idea of guns and think that
guns shouldn't exist. Is like how they is, let's do
(25:31):
the bare minimum and at least ban weapons that professional
people in the military use in war. So this is
why they're so good, this is why they're a great
propaganda outlet, because they take the most cartoonist version of
the other side's argument and they're like, okay, so they
you know, this is an organization that has three very
clear things. They want to get rid of certain weapons,
(25:54):
they want the minimum on background checks, and like one
other thing that I can't remember because i'm a you know,
you're an old. You're an old. I'm an old, and
I'm also ill informed liberal. But uh, instead of talking
about those specific talking points and things that the marchers
are asking for, they're like, they think guns should never
(26:14):
have been invented, and they want them to disappear magically,
which no nobody has ever. What's next, These invisible guns
are gonna be marrying each other that never existed. Hold on,
you're you're messing up all your weird psychopathic but but
it is weird. I said this the last podcast, the
last episode I was on, and I'm gonna say it again.
It is weird to see this outlet using Alex Jones
(26:39):
talking points like trying to use the crisis actor angle.
And what's even more pathetic is them pussyfooting it to
be like you do the math, Like if you're gonna
do that, if you're gonna make that kind of disgusting statement,
then actually have the balls to say it. Don't don't
pussy foot around it like it's just it's really pathetic,
Like it's it really is, that's exactly right. Uh. They
(27:02):
also had a segment where one of their men on
the street went out to interview some of the kids
and asked them what they thought of the Second Amendment,
and you know, most of them were just like it's
outdated or it's made for a different time. And uh,
then they cut back to the Fox in studio team
(27:24):
and they're like, yeah, just tear up the Constitution, I guess.
And then uh, one of the guys on Fox and
Friends like they don't learn about the Constitution in class.
And first of all, like everything the kids say is right. Obviously,
they like leave in the ums and oz to make
them seem dumber. It's very like Jay Leno jaywalking type thing.
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But uh so they make them seem as dumb as possible.
But every like the content of what the students are
saying is true. It was literally made for a different time.
And labeling the Second Amendment outdated is such a reasonable
position that a Supreme Court decision in two thousand eight
brought it up. It was a dissenting opinion, but Justice
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John Paul Stevens was like, look, I don't think that
the framers of the Constitution, we're thinking about handguns when
they gave militiamen the right to keep muskets, and like
that's a completely valid argument. But basically, they show these
kids having valid arguments and they're like, yeah, sure, but
what's so funny is that they're like, oh, yeah, no,
(28:28):
it still holds up today. Our childhood movies don't even
hold up to the document does yeah, I mean also
to the guns they were even talking about then it
just took like forty seconds to shoot. So in their mind,
there wasn't like that like, well, you know, one of
these cycles get loose with a musket, something could happen,
uh you know again at very different times. And these people, yeah,
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they were they're not possible. Also, they were impossible. They
were so hard to aim that like you know, once
people invented rifles we have today. For the Civil War,
it was that was the reason the Civil War was
so bloody, is because the generals weren't used to weapons
that you could actually aimed straight, and so they like
fought the war like you were just running up to
people in their general direction. And but because the weapons
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actually fired straight, like, lots and lots of people died
because they just didn't. They hadn't adapted their uh tactics
for a world in which straight like straight shooting effective
weapon re existed. And they had in mind when they
wrote the Constitution the same deal, like they were thinking
of muskets and shitty you know, things that fired round,
(29:40):
things that knuckleballed out out into the air, and who
the funknew where it was landing um who else? Who
else was avoiding meaningful coverage of of the march? Well
the n r A TV. Yeah, yeah. They had a
great clip where Grant stinch Field went on a ran
about how the leaders of the march quote hate our
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country and are willing to quote hijack a group of
grieving children to advance their bogus cause. And then Dana
Losher Lash What's how do you pronounce? Dana Lash showed
up and you know, segued into the most important issue
that everybody had on their mind at this march, that
was about gum rights abortion, and we talked about the
(30:25):
falls equivalency that people on the right. We're drawing to
that like for twenty minutes last week, So I don't
think we need to do that. What one funny detail
of this segment is that they have stinch Field in
studio at n r A TV headquarters in Dallas, and
Dana Lash comes in via satellite live from uh also Dallas.
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So like when they do, I just didn't want to
drive over. She's like, yeah, I'm across town. Sorry over here.
At least Lie say She's yeah, like, yeah, I'm live
from d C Actually, right, yeah, exactly the street or
probably just in the next studio, and like, you know,
I guess they chose to be honest for that one,
(31:13):
Like it would be tacky to say she wasn't in Dallas.
Side note, Stinchfield is a last name i'd give a
villain in a comic book. Seriously. I love the point
you made if you about how like movies don't even
hold up from our childhood let alone. Like that's the
thing that uh, you know, somebody called me out. I
was talking about how my main things that I always
(31:35):
bring up are the British cold Gas study, and I
forget what the other thing is, the dependency ratio. The
dependency ratio are like my main things, and they were like, no, man,
you're the Flynn effect is your second most common thing.
And that's true. The Flinn effect which says that children's
accused are going up like three points every ten years,
(31:56):
which is true. And I think that that's why movies
from like the seventies and eight he don't hold up
is because the world, like is getting progressively smarter. And
I think that's also why we're seeing people like what
these kids they know less than nothing about guns? Why
should we listen to them, it's like, no, they're actually
just the first generation that their i Q has progressed
(32:17):
to the point where they look around they're like, wait,
what the fund is? Shakespeare in Love was the best picture.
Here we go, and I'm gonna tweet this so you know,
if if I don't get around and tweeting this yet,
you get your heard it here first. But basically it's
funny because the way we look at these kids are
(32:39):
so wrong. Because everyone can admit that wisdom is an age,
it's experience. So when you look at these Parkland kids
who actually lived through a school shooting, they have more
wisdom on guns than a lot of these people who
are sitting up in their studios waking up throwing out
their curate. So they're using a drip coffee machine like
(33:01):
a herb. Yeah, like they don't they don't know they
they're they're yelling at these kids, calling them dumb, But
you don't know what it's like to be around an
active shooter, and you'd probably be talking a different tune
if you were. You have but have these kids humped
a gun before they know they have it? So see,
they don't know what they're talking. We need to get
to that. That brings us to our next favorite form
(33:23):
of right wing guns rights. Uh sort of protest against
gun control. Uh. So their gun videos are being banned
from YouTube, right, Yeah, a lot of them, like ones
that are explicitly about like how to make a fire,
to make a gun gun to automatic or simulated automatic fire,
other illegal things. People are like, what you're gonna take that,
(33:44):
Dallas bullshit? Uh So now they're uploading those videos to
porn hub because that's you know, you can get away
with it there, which, by the way, porn hub is
one of the most politically outspoken porn side. So I
cannot wait for them. I think they're just waiting for
all of them to be done and just gonna mask
wipe him and say fuck your guns. You know. Yeah,
(34:06):
I don't think at the time when we were first
leaking into they hadn't really said anything yet, but I'm
sure eventually can be like for this is not for you. Yeah, yeah,
unless it's the video of someone humping a gun. Yeah.
I wish they're like, and we're banning porn from you.
You're done here, You're done to x in x X,
go to x hamster and the only other piece of
(34:27):
gun news, uh is also somewhat bad news for the
right wing. I don't know if that last one is
necessarily no, it's just kind of interesting. But it's showing
that the culture porn hub than have an excuse for
being there then that you're watching pornography. Hey, what are
you doing on porn hub, Darryl? I'm just learning how
to convert my gun. Sorry, that was an offensive impression
(34:48):
of how Southern people talk. You would say, excuse me, Susan,
I'm learning how to make a high capacity magazine exactly,
and let me mod on. But so, Remington has apparently
filed for a Chapter eleve bankrupt one of the oldest
I think the oldest gun manufacturers in the country, right, yeah,
has in the words of Michael Scott, I declare bankrupts.
(35:15):
They've declared Chapter eleven to bankruptcy. Now, this isn't like
news because in February they said a local probably file
a bankruptcy because they knew how bad it was. But
many other you know, a lot of gun manufacturers are
feeling because gun sales have been down since Trump took
office because, oh guess what, when you don't have a Democrat,
you can't push your fearmongering ship of your guns are
about to be taken away. And even now it's not
like yeah, even like a Ruger, like their sales of
(35:37):
like it's not a it's not a good time to
be making bank banks. Yeah, you would think that the
whole thing is that when uh there's a school shooting
or when a Barack Obama gets elected president, uh, gun
sales shoot up because everyone's afraid they're going to ban them.
But even that hasn't been working, presumably because they have
already bought like all the guns, Like people in Americans
(35:58):
are just like, well, I've my whole house. I have
just a whole room filled with At this point, I
don't know if they've really done much to expand their
universal supporters. Like I think, if anything, they can maybe
move people who are already n r A members from
like the kind of interested into the slightly more aggressive version.
But like, I don't know how many people were like,
hey man, I saw that video with Killer Mike, and
(36:19):
now I'm really I'm I'm all in with the n
r A. This is another video Killer Mike was apparently
duped end up doing an interview with that guy Cooley
on Noir or whatever, the black dude who's on the
n r A TV who's doing really good for them.
Apparently Killer Mike was on and a lot of people
were like, Yo, what the funk because he was They
cut the interview to sort of look like that he
was against this, like these kids. But he was on
(36:41):
there to talk about black ownership of guns and things
like that, and he was like, hold on, they used
my thing. But he was also at the end he
was like, I can also advocate for black people to
own guns and also be in favor of gun control.
But yeah, it was interesting how he got He got
duped a little bit, but well you should have no. Yeah,
I'm like singing the n r A and like for what,
Like I'm not I'm not gonna go on to like
(37:05):
Alex Jones show and think I'm gonna be shown in
a good light. You're you're one of the best gamers
out there, right, You're using the info Wars brainforce someonement
Wait what yeh oky Man okay man vitamins. Yeah, and
that's when it's like yeah, but yeah, total frank and
(37:27):
bite clip right, all right, we're gonna take a quick break.
Whe'll be right back with a sweep of the Google trends.
And we're back, uh, and it's time for a roundup
(37:47):
of topics on America's mind via Google Trends. Google has
a nice function where you can look at searches that
are trending, searches that are popping up and becoming more
frequent it. By the way, I was reading an article
over the weekend about just Hope Picks and what her
role in the White House had been, and basically she
(38:09):
was to trump what technology is to all of us,
Like she would just be like who, yeah, basically indispensable.
Like where do I recognize that person from? What did
I say on this subject? Like just she was like
his alexa, yeah exactly, and what did I say just now? Yeah?
And now she's going away, so uh, well that's why.
(38:35):
So uh, some things that are trending right now. The
n C Double A Tournament is all over the trends, uh,
which you know it's not surprising, but I guess, uh
each year has gone up more and more than n
C Double A Tournament has become like a bigger and
bigger deal every year, and uh that continued this year.
(38:55):
I thought maybe it was gonna, you know, Peter out
because of all the scanneds and n C double a
basketball being at its worth stage. But I think there's
just a general overall trend of you know, people craving
like live events and live experiences to share with other
people on social media. Um, lil zann Uh is trending
(39:16):
because he apparently so this is a young rapper. I
like how you even struggled to even give him that distinction.
He's a young piece of ship with face tattoos, niece's
just fucking stay in school. So he uh, he looks
like he's like maybe sixteen. I think he's about eight
or nine. And he talked about Tupac. So what you're
(39:38):
gonna hear is them asking, well, so what do you
give Tupac on the scale of one to ten. He
gives a spicy answer. He gives Tupac a two and
causes ship boring. Now let me tell you something. You
cannot say that ship in the West Coast or in
hip hop generally speaking, you they cannot talk about Biggie
or Tupac anyway. So he got pressed by a bunch
of teenagers and he sort of went on an apology
tour after the fact, so what you can hear is
(40:00):
his answer and then sort of immediately walking it back
in front of a group of like kind of angry teenagers.
Two Born music from the media twisting my words, I
think is leg Park is definitely a legend. Legend your
(40:25):
words and they want you to hate me. Yeah, the
media twisted my words is always the worst sence to
But for to follow that up with I believe Tupac
is a leg is crazy because when you say the
media twist in my words, that means I'm put in
a situation where my words have gotten me into so
(40:46):
much trouble. And then to know that the source of
all that chaos is the fact that he went and
said some ship like he's from California, You've got to
know better. But like there are a few other videos
were like kids were just walking up to the street.
They're like, hey, home, you're not even close to be
in two bucks. Would you say about him? He's like, no,
I like Tupae, I love Tupae. You're getting me wrong.
And then he played California Love at a recent show,
(41:08):
but like didn't try and wrap anything, just like if
he really is about that, like being on Zan's bro you.
He probably even remember saying that ship let me tell
you about a place called the Wild Wild westward to
the uh. So I wanted to get if he We've
(41:31):
been seeing trending for the past like three weeks. We've
been seeing Fortnite on Google trends, and you know, I
knew that became a big deal when Drake streamed, but
it's it was actually out there before Drake streamed, existed
before Drake. Yeah, it existed and was like one of
the main things in our sort of digital unconscious. So
(41:57):
I'm curious what's your take on Fortnite. If he is
a gamer, if he is the host of forthcoming podcast Nerdificent,
which had its trailer drop last week. It's episode zero
launches tomorrow and then episode one launches next week on Tuesday.
But if he give us the breakdown on forehand, Fortnite
(42:20):
is such a interesting moment in gaming. So just to
give you the full background, there was a game called
Player Unknown Battlegrounds called pub G, which was a spinoff
of a game called h one z one which had
a game mode called King of the Kill. H one
z one was a survivals on the game, and then
they had a spinoff game called King of the Kill
(42:40):
where a hundred players would drop on a island and basically,
just like Battle Royal and Hunger Games, Last Man Standing wins,
player Unknown modded the game armor to create both the
mod H one z one. Then he left H one
z one and then created player known Battlegrounds, which was
a more realistic and tactical take on the King of
(43:03):
the Hill because King of the Hill was kind of cartoony.
What ended up happening is as pub grew in popularity,
H one z one tried competing and going the same
route of just being more tactical, and the fans hated
it because they liked both of them. Meanwhile, there was
a game called Fortnite created by Epic Games. You may
know them from such games as Years of War, Unreal Tournament,
(43:26):
and they had a game called Fortnite which was a
kind of defend your base game where you had a
building function and you would build and defend your base.
And then for funzies, since they saw H one z
one and pup G, they created a Battle Royal mode,
which was cool because not only does it take the
fun parts of the Battle Royale, but it adds its
own Fortnite flare by adding a building aspect, so you
(43:49):
can scavenge for resources and build a base in the
In the midst of all of this, you're fighting guess
how many people, So you're it's like you're dropped on island.
There's a hundred people there and you're all trying to
kill each other and be the last one alive was
talking about, right, so you can do solo duos or
(44:11):
people you're playing against real people, And so what ended
up happening is pub G was great. It was an
early access game, which means that it wasn't fully released.
Then it released, and it wasn't that great because it
was still broken. There was no incentive for Player Unknown
to really develop the game out because it was already
getting used in the sports. There was so much money
(44:34):
in it, so I feel like it just took a
dip in like bug squashing and more into monetization and
how they can make money. They're still doing well though,
they're still competing, but Fortnite kind of is more polished
because it was already a pretty almost complete game and
they just added this mode. How much Fortnite are you playing?
(44:54):
I'm playing quite a bit. I went back and I
was playing the Witcher, But now I'm back on fort
and you were playing with grand Mom was here earlier
and you had to carry him. Yeah, I carried him.
You like when I joined up, he was like, I'm
just trying to make it into the top ten. Two
games later he's in the top ten. You know, Oh yeah,
how did that work? You know? Your boy is nice
with the two What do you think is the What
(45:15):
do you think because I've watched a few like clips
of streams and people playing and stuff like that for
someone like me, because I'm about to just download it
and probably ruin my life? What do you say to
people who have been hearing about it? Sell them on
it right now? Okay, so life like you're saying you're
gonna in your social life. You kind of do, but
you kind of don't. Well, no, because of the reason
(45:36):
that the games can vary. Like you, your average game
is probably about twenty minutes. But is it just like
a very small space and oh yeah, I forgot to mention,
after like every two minutes, the circle gets smaller and
pushes over one together, so it moves like you. It's
not just you survive as long as you survived, the
(45:57):
circle is gonna push you together until oh there's one
band standing. But games can be as long as twenty
minutes and as short as thirty seconds, because you can
land someone's right by you with a shotgun and you're done.
Is it always a hundred people, Yeah, it's always a hundred.
Sometimes it will dip to like nine gay, but usually
nine plus all the time. And what's dope about it
(46:19):
is if you got somewhere to go, you're like, let
me bang one out. You can probably bang one or
two out because the games are so fast and you
can get on with your life. But if you're like,
oh man, but I get I get addicted. So I'm like,
I get that loop going. So you ever been last
man standing? Oh yeah, I've I've I've won a few times.
But here's the thing, and here's where I will cut
(46:40):
Edgar and Cody some slack who I was carrying into greatness.
There's cross play, so I can play with you on
my PC when you're on PS four, and you can,
as a PS four can play with someone who's playing Mobile.
The thing is, though, is if someone's playing Mobile and
you're playing PS four, they get bumped up to PS four.
(47:01):
And if I'm playing PC and we're all on PS four,
everyone on PS four gets bumped up to the PC
player base. When you say bumped up, you mean like
the engine is. What it means is like you're playing
against people on PC. Got it. So you're using PS
four controllers, but you're playing against PC players. So it's
gonna be there's gonna be uh slight difference. It's gonna
(47:21):
be hard to keep up because PC, you know, we
can three Well, just because you have a mouse, you
have a quicker range of motion in your vision to
PC Master Race. Yeah. Uh alright, man, that totally made sense.
So Jack, that sounds like you're gonna be on Fortnite. Uh.
That is definitely the most excited about a video game
(47:43):
I have been. Uh it's three double yeah, I mean
class over. My last gaming experience was in sixty four
and that that had a Golden Eye and ship, and
it sounds like Golden Eye but like times a. Yeah,
it's also Yeah, that's the main selling point I keep forgetting.
(48:04):
It's free. Yeah, exactly, it's a free game and it
plays like it shouldn't be free. Yeah. Damn that Infinity
War is the only movie that's making it into our
sort of globabal or American mind space, uh anything, the
memes or the thing that's really taken is that what
(48:24):
people are Yeah, just sort of like Infinity wor will
be the greatest crossover bent of our time. And then
people have just been responding with like photo crossover things.
But that's the only that's the only like engagement I've
had with him, because that trailer looked super whack to me,
like the bad guy the dude, like than yeah, he
looks like a fucking claymation character. He just did not
(48:45):
look very interesting. This is and I think it's one
of the things where the hype is really coming from
the comic book fans because Fanos is like that dude.
He he is like the biggest, baddest dude they can fight.
It's almost to the point where it's like, do you
all need to keep making movies after this because you're
gonna fight the baddest dude? Got it all right? If
(49:10):
he It has been a pleasure as always having you
on the dailies, like, uh, where can people find you? Oh,
you can find me at if you way way I
apply w A d I w E on Twitter and Instagram.
If you're looking for those lifting picks, go to if
he Lifts on Instagram. That's where I'm pushing away the
legal time and where and where can people listen to you? Oh?
(49:34):
You can listen to me on Nertive Ascent every Tuesday.
Like like Jack said, episode zero is going to be
a dropping tomorrow and episode uh one, we'll be dropping
next Tuesday, and then you know new episodes from then on.
Never And yeah, y'all heard Danny. Who's the other post
she was on the last week you want? So now
it's time for you to listen to their show. But
(49:56):
the way if you just made Fortnite makes sense to you,
they're gonna be making sense of all sorts of geek culture,
things that you see in pop culture and might not
totally understand. They're gonna make it uh approachable. Uh miles,
Where can people find you? You can find me on
Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. You can find
me on Twitter at Jack Underscore. Oh, Brian, you can
(50:17):
find us at Daily Zeygeist on Twitter. We're at the
Daily Ziegeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page,
and we have a website Daily ziegeist dot com where
we post our episodes and footno we link off to
articles and sources of the information that we talked about
today's episode. That is gonna do it for today, Miles.
(50:38):
Do you have a song to write us out on? Yeah? Okay,
so speaking of things that like, you know, time Moves
by a great album by the artist Uncle called Science
Fiction came out twenty years ago. Uh. And there's a
track that I would love to play on their featuring
Tom York called Rabbit in Your Headlights, which is kind
of you know, a lot of people don't realize that
it's an Uncle song but has a great Tom York
(50:59):
vocals on it. Uh. And this was twenty years ago,
and this ship sounds like a good song for right now.
So keep that in your mind, all right, and we're
gonna right out on that. We will be back tomorrow
because it is a daily podcast. We'll talk to you
guys that I'm a rabbit headlight, scared of the spotlight.
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You don't come to visit. I'm stuck in the spell.
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flapperly fingers of sucking your soul. Oh, o rubbing headlight Christians,
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A bad blood was still toil flapper uh things a
sucking sound. If you're frightened or dime, and then you
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hold it on, you'll see devil's tar in your life away.
What if you've made your peace, then the devil's a
really angels freaking from hearing here. What a ground the
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Hello the Internet, and welcome to season twenty four, episode
one of Daily Zeitgeist for March two thousand eight. Team,
my name is Jack O'Brien a ka Matta Jack Scar
three Europe's most Wanted. Uh, that's courtesy of Riley Schmidt.
I don't know if he would want me to say
who that was courtesy of, but giving him a shout
(00:21):
out anyways, and I am thrilled to be joined as
always by my co host Mr Miles Great, Thank you.
I'm today I'm gonna be experimental Japanese visual artist, your
boy Kusama, Thank you so much to my boy Kevin
Parker playing for that a k. And if you don't
know who Yayoi Kusama is, look up for work. Anyone
who has been to a museum, Instagram something is probably
(00:42):
a one of her exhibitions. Bit of culture with the
ak look it's Monday. I'm just kidding into yep. I
think I win with Matta Jack Scar maybe Europe's most Wanted.
And we are thrilled to be joined in our third
seat by the hilarious comedian if he wad Away, if
man If man if man if man like. Yeah. By
(01:03):
the way, Shadow a lot of Zykegangers. Uh happened on
the Twitch? Yeah, yes, coming through and they're and they're
doing what I asked, just using that zygang hashtag. Let
no yeah gang and we're we're we're out here right
there in Fortnite. We're out here in every every point. Yeah,
we're gonna talk about But if he first up, what
is something from your search history that is feeling better?
(01:25):
You are? Oh? Man um? Oh yeah. So there's a
meme going around where that black kid crying and it's
actually like an African kid crying and somebody, one of
my friends, Connie Shin, she was like, does he might
want to know why? Like this kid is crying, like
you know, it's a meme And I was like, oh no,
it's from an African movie because I saw someone posted
(01:47):
the longer clips, so I know the origin, but I
was trying to look for it so I can watch it.
But it's an Hollywood movie where it's two boys who
are raising money and their dad's like a drunk or something,
and then they just discovered that their ad stole all
their money that they've been doing chores around them. Because
the kid looks oh yeah, yeah, he's like I cannot
(02:08):
believe could he do this? Who are they using that for?
What was that mean that? Because I just saw it
this morning. What was the one for? Um, they're the
one I saw it for. It was like, uh or
I used it when people when Arizona lost and I
was like, oh, all the people who have Arizona winning
(02:28):
their brackets right. Yeah, but it's it's used a lot.
But the new one that's hit is the video that's
like oh my god, my god, yeah, oh my god. Yeah.
So yeah, yeah that I believe. That's not either Notllywood
or Gollywood, which has gone in movies, but usually it's
(02:50):
it's nigeriar so and those are the most popping You're
not even patting myself from the back of my homie
David Borre, he's from Sierra Leone and he was like, yeah, no,
Nollywood's popping out there. People think Nigerians are so cool
and it's like, yeah, you know, what is something that's underrated? Underrated? Look,
I'm very late. I'm very late on this, so I'm
(03:13):
gonna say that. But the good place I just was
watching it. Yeah, and even though a lot of people
were saying it was good, I feel like a lot
of people don't like it's the jokes are wall to
wall on top of each other. And you know, I
also shout out my homies, which your Darcy card he's
in look Good Place, but also my buddy Anthony Kerrigan
(03:34):
and Kirby who are all in Berry Berry Great and
that might fly under your radar. But it's written, directed,
and a starring Bill Hayter uh and it's it's funny.
It's funny. As I went to the premier, so all
two episodes very funny. What's our character called Stacy or
what's it called? On the Good Place? People are trying
(03:55):
to get like Alexa mod for that's anybody who's but yes,
you can just say Janet. But yeah, that show was
one of the same thing where you heard I heard
everybody talking about it, but I was like, look, most people,
most shows you talk about are not good. And then
I started watching it and I was so blown away.
I was like, I was giddy watching because the writing
(04:16):
he's amazing, and the performances Dad dad dancing, you know,
good to see him. Oh man, Yeah, he's really him
and Darcy really just make that show next level. What
is something that you think is overrated? If I think
overrated is being on the wave of the outrage where
(04:37):
like you're like, okay, Like I hate seeing the same
message over, like the same take over and over, Like
I feel like it is better if you amplify the
voices that have already said what you're trying to say, like, oh,
I read that and I'm gonna say it, you know.
Like I feel like I see this a lot where
like one person is you know, calling something out or
(05:01):
talking about something. I think the one thing that has
been um going on recently is just the kind of
obvious difference in how you know, UH protests, black people
protesting versus like the Parkland kids protesting. And I feel like,
you know a lot of people have been having that
conversation in a way where it's like, yeah, this is
(05:21):
a problem we should address, but also we should keep
in mind that, you know, this is the first time
everyone's on board. But then I feel like it turns
to a game of uh telephone where it's gotten to
the point where some people are like fuck these Parkland kids,
and it's like no, no, no, Like I get what
you're where you're coming from, but you can you know,
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we we are complex human beings. We don't have to
just say one or the other. We can be like this,
support this, but also realized this and said that that's
those are the voices that are clearly getting the most ears. Well,
and it's because people make that and then they they
have an emotion about it and then they just say
(06:04):
it instead of just sharing this voice of like yeah,
this person says that, you know so, because I feel
like this is a contest of like where the fringe
tries to make the hottest, spiciest take and not necessarily
try and like, you know, really spread the take because
what what these kids are advocating for is something that
everyone will benefit too. And I think, yeah, people are
(06:25):
really upset. Clearly they have a reason to be, because
these kinds of problems have affected many other communities in
much greater way. But again, yeah, it's like, sure, I
get that this is somehow the way that people are
starting to listen, but this is America, and I think
we knew that, Yeah, this is sort of how ship
has been working. Sadly, I'm not resigned to that fact,
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but that we have to be real of what the
reality is of how sort of these kinds of rhetorical
discussions and you know how movements work in this kind
of ye And also it's just like if you're paying
close attention, the kids are aware of that. The kids
are so much ahead of the woke curve than we are.
And it's because they probably spent most of their time
on Tumbler before this all happened, you know, they like
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they they've been checking their privilege and like really trying
to lift up black voices as they as they move forward.
And that's what's cool is you've got all these people
because and I feel like that's what happens when things
start growing, is people try and nitpick and find holes
and because no one can just rise, you gotta find
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something wrong with it, just in the same way like
they lift you up so they can tell you. And
so I feel like it's getting to that point where
they're trying to find holes, but the kids are ahead
of the game. Like the holes that you're trying to
point out, they've already been working on fixing that. It's
like Twitter wokeness, Judo, It's like, I'm going to use
your wokeness against you to show that I am even
(07:52):
more woke than you. And it's just like, no, we
can just both have good points. And the New York
Times podcast The Daily It's More actually interviewed some kids
from inner city Chicago who have been working on you know,
gun access and you know, restricting gun access, making it
less easy for people to you know, smuggle guns into Chicago,
(08:13):
and uh, they are sort of jumping on this Parkland
thing and while acknowledging, Yeah, the reason that this is
being becoming a national issue is because they're like, the
households in their community make three times as much as
the households in our community, and that's fucked up. But
this is our opportunity and you know, getting a getting
(08:36):
a national stage and using that word what Mike drop
hashtag might drop, he's just he's just r I P
just killed the club. Uh. If you what is a myth?
What's something that people think is true out there that
you know to be false. I think, you know, we
(09:00):
we went heavy with the overrated. Let's let's keep it light.
Myth is if you lift weights, you go and give buff.
That's not true that like you're gonna get buff. But
it takes more than just lifting weights like buff you're
gonna gain muscle. But I know lots of times like
whenever I suggest resistance training to like my female friends,
(09:20):
they're like, it's like when you join the political movement
resistance they're they're always like, oh no, I don't want
to be bulky and buffed trying to look tone. It
was like, that's how you get tone. You need resistance training,
Like cardio can only do so much. But it's a
combination of your diet and some resistance training to build
that muscle. That's that's what you're seeing. That's tone is muscle. Uh,
(09:43):
trust me, so many, so many women go through so
many loophole like loops and hoops to just build muscle
because it's so hard because your bodies are weird and
you have to like eat high carbs. Like if you're
trying to build muscle, it's not as simple as lifting weights.
Like if you're a skinny person trying to get big,
(10:04):
you have to do a lot of eating. You're gonna
have to fight against your metabolism. Uh. And if you're
then you fight against metabolism. If you're a big person
trying to get small, but lift heavyweights, it helps. You've
been Yeah, you've been on Ah, I think I met
you maybe like a year ago when we were trying
to do something out wired, like when we really first met,
(10:25):
and I think at the time, were you just starting
to like really get into weightlifting At the time, I
was just starting within the first beginnings of it, because
I remember that's when you were really talking about it.
I feel like, and you've you've you've had a metamorphosis. Yeah, no,
I've That's when I had like my confidence in it
because there was very a lot of trial and error.
Like I've been lifting weights maybe for like seriously for
(10:46):
like six seven years, but I've never felt comfortable because
everyone would be like, how did you do it? How
did you do it? And I would just lift the
things and read stuff to support it. But like at
that point where you met me is when I actually
started like learning why, you know, the mechanics mechanics of it,
And then I felt more comfortable being outspoken about it
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because my biggest fear is like dropping some quote unquote
knowledge and just like a real deal person coming and
be like, well, actually, no, nice try kill monger. Yeah,
you guys, check if he's Instagram if you really want
to see this guy. He's not lying. He's throwing plates
around in the weight room around like a dishwasher. All right,
(11:29):
let's get into the stories of the day. Yes, because
we had we had a big one over the weekend. Uh,
and we're labeling this the story least likely to be
on Fox and Friends this morning. So Stormy Daniels went
on sixty minutes last night, and their ratings quote easily
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outpaced the last Marquee episode Trump's two thousand and sixteen
interview on sixty minutes, but it's still trails Barack Obama's uh,
where he scored twenty four point five five millions. So
Stormy Daniels scored twenty million. And uh, I just I
just feel like that specific detail that her ratings beat
Trump and yet still couldn't reach Barack Obama's like probably
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is just destroying him alive from the inside out. Um.
I watched the I watched the interview. Uh. My takeaways
are that I was sad for her because you know,
she talks about how she goes to his room. Anderson
Cooper's like, you were twenty seven, he was sixty. Were
you attracted to him? She says no? He was like
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did you want to have sex with him? She says no.
He was like, but you did and she's like yeah,
And he was like, did you get or did he
get consent? And she's basically she's just like, yeah, I
felt like I had to because I had gone to
his room. She was like, a Stormy, you really did
it to yourself this time because she went to his room,
and that automatically meant that, you know, uh, she had
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to have sex with him. And I don't know, I've
just I think we've all been in situations where we
feel like we need to do something because people expect
us to do it, and it's always a matter of
self esteem whether you end up doing that thing or not.
And it just feels like a shitty position for her
to have put herself in. Another another tale of sort
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of the invisible male core Yeah work. It reminded me
of the A. Z story in the sense that it
wasn't like clean cut and you know, you can't necessarily
group it into the two things. When she said now
like you could see, she was like not and like
yeah and yeah, even her kind of I think she
literally said something to the fact of like, uh, Stormy,
look what you got yourself into the kind of thing
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and did Yeah, that was a little yeah, it's just
again a reflection of the society that we're in. Another takeaway,
gross third takeaway, I I sort of started to understand
it from her perspective. So she, you know, had this
experience with Trump, told the story for money, like when
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it wasn't a big deal in two thousand and ten
or eleven before, like he had any presidential aspirations, made
some money on the side, uh, And then it got
leaked to the Wall Street Journal that there was you know,
Trump's campaign came to her and offered to pay her
money to not say anything. She accepted that, and then
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it was leaked by the Wall Street Journal that they
did have this affair and there was hush money in place,
and Trump came out and said she was lying about
having the affair. And that's when she came out and
started talking about it. It It wasn't like she forced the issue.
It was that she basically was being called a liar
and uh, you know, an opportunist by the right before
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she and I mean that's her version of the story. Now,
you know, some people say she's not uh, you know,
reliable source. But one of my favorite things about this
is how I feel like, uh, you know, Stormy is
ready for this, you know, like she sees people coming
at her on Twitter and it does not bug her
because this is what people are trying to do, is
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how stories like this get shut down. They bully you.
You're getting like yelled at by people online. So then
you just start changing up your story. You're afraid. But
Stormy at this point it's like, no, this is it's facts,
and you can try calling me all the horrors and
and sluts you want, but I'm gonna speak my truth. Yeah. Well,
and the interesting thing too is a lot of people
like kind of speculating or I was reading on Slater
(15:32):
I think this morning about how they a lot of
people think that her whole legal strategy is basically because
the endgame is to sell dick pics of the president.
And they say that because you know, in the agreement
that she signed that Trump didn't sign, the one that
they're trying to nullify. Uh, there's like a lot of
like for people who have read and nondisclosure agreements, they
said like they're sort of very specific um stuff written
(15:55):
in there about how like any images or text messages
have to be given over to Michael Cohen and that
any any of those things are like basically copy written
material of Donald Trump, like it's his intellectual property essentially,
So if the agreement is nullified, then that is not
his intellectual property, and then she can go and you
know how like her lawyer, Michael Avanadi had like tweeted
(16:18):
a photo of like a DVD and like a safe
and it was like if a picture can say a
thousand words, like whoa, that's pretty that's pretty wild, but like, yeah,
they're so one of the ideas is that would open
her up to then being able to like basically sell
stuff to the highest bidder, to like whatever outlet would
publish it. Vivid is just pulling all their resources to
(16:39):
get that DVD you want. Are they still doing well
because they used to have a nice headquarter, not nice
but a big building. Yeah, yeah, you still see it,
but I don't know, it looks like one of those
buildings that that are like back in the day, this
was a nice building that I grew up right down
the street from it. Like in the nineties that was
like that building was popping and now it's like, uh,
(17:00):
you know, well, the times have changed. The Internet. Are
people still paying for porn that is a question that
I do not know the answer to, but that's crazy.
I guess her her she said her sales are going up,
so apparently that oh yeah, no. I looked into this
because so porn hub has a ranking system for their
adult actresses, and I went back and I looked up
(17:21):
so Stormy Daniels was number one the last I checked
on porn hub and before that, because I went to
look up which one is the one that Ted Cruz
was looking up Chase Chase? Uh, I think porn. Well,
what was funny is like I was following her on Snapchat,
like I was. I was a fan before she was popping.
(17:41):
So when I saw her name, I was like, oh,
that's weird. I know that porn but yeah her she
jumped up when during the Ted Cruse stuff. So this
stuff really does make your you know, your VIDs come
to the spotlight valid strategy? Yeah, I think, actually yes
I did, because I tweeted her porn star number and
I was like, just all, you know, it boost your ranking.
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So if any other porn star has any stories about
any politicians, it's like a syndication, you like, you're giving
it life after the fact. The only other detail, uh,
that jumped out to me, so I knew that there
was a threat involved where somebody threatened her to like
drop the story, stopped telling the story, basically forget that
she had an affair with Trump. And I thought that
(18:24):
had happened like recently or at least after the election,
But it actually happened back in two thousand eleven, so
before people really knew about it and before Trump had
a political career. So it wasn't like some Trump supporter
just came up and threatened her, you know, because they
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thought she was threatening his career. It was definitely either
someone from Trump side or Cohen, who I don't know
if you've seen Michael Cohen interviewed h he's pretty He's
kind of just stereotype of a you know, New York
mobbed up attorney. So yeah, it seems like a playbook
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for like, you know, this kind of ship. If you're
like a high powered person who's used to basically using
money or force to intimidate people and to do whatever
you want, it wouldn't strike me as like, oh no,
they would also use threats against somebody somebody just walked
up and was like, cute daughter, would be a shame
of something where that happen to her mother. Don't talk
about Mr Trump, you know, bye bye and disappeared. Yeah,
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And you know she's not lying because when like I
think when Anderson Cooper asked like, oh, would you know
who it was, She's like no, She's like, but if
I saw his face, I would remember. And you're like, yeah,
that's definitely some ship. When you got through some ship,
you would not forget someone's face. People one morning, Joe,
we're like, why didn't he have pictures to show her?
Right then? Because they're trying to sell that ship, right,
I'm telling you that watch No, No, I mean of
the person of like different people's faces who are like
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associates of Trump and going through it. The crazy thing too,
was like on Fox and Friends, just to kind of
go off how we were starting it, they basically none
of the hosts actually said her name this morning, Like
there were mentions of it by other people, none of
the hosts actually said her name. And you know how
many times they said Hillary Clinton times? Um, so cool.
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That's what's been wild is Someone also pointed out that
any time people tweet or put a stormy in a headline,
they add porn star to it, and they're saying, like
if she was a lawyer, they wouldn't add her job
her job titled to any of her descriptions because it's
the additional like shaming of somebody who's working in pornography,
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and yeah, making the headlined seemingly more delacious. Yeah, I mean,
and Fox and Friends not mentioning her name. I mean
they're just taking their lead from their head of programming president. Yeah,
he's not mentioning her. Don't trigger the boss. All right,
we're going to take a quick break, will be right back,
(21:02):
and we're back. And we wanted to talk about the
March for Our Lives that happened over the weekend. I
know a lot of people who were there. Uh, I
didn't get downtown today, you guys go I was recording
the Bechdel Cast, but my mom went in my stead
to Kids Choice Awards. So yeah, you really really out
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here for these kids. See, people want to march for
the kids. I'm trying to be up trying to say
like I met with them, but you know that's tricky wording. Anyways,
a lot of people did go there, and uh, Fox
News didn't really know how to react to all these
(21:44):
You know, young elementary school kids. Like uh, Crooked media
went down there and interviewed all the people on the street,
and it was like, you know, these eleven year olds
who like told their grandma they wanted to come down
and like so they drove for like hours to get
there to go to the protests and just this really
intense outpouring of just organic sort of democratic energy and organic.
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Well we'll see Fox Fox has a word or two
to say about that. So, uh, let's let's hear how
they tried to cover the march for Our Lives. There's
something to be said for this. I mean, that's that's
hundreds of thousands of people, and I had conversations a
lot of them, um, and they really have no idea
what they're talking about, especially with guns. Kind of feel
(22:31):
sorry for some of them without putting them on the spot, um,
but they seem to be very very misguided. But there's emotion,
and emotion drives politics. Well, I mean, I think we
had talked about the fact that this march was going
to take place, and one of the things that Peter
Doucy had mentioned was that initially it felt like it
was more organic that there was some students getting together
after the Valentine's Day event in Parkling, Florida. And then
(22:52):
now it's almost as effive celebrity movement. It's Hollywood feel
and and that's that's what I wanted to ask you about.
So I definitely feel a lot of that. It's it's
a blendball enforces. A lot of students were being bust
and which is to be without sudden. You could tell
by the T shirts and the big coach busses that
are And I was asking, who's paying for this? First
of all, I mean, it's hiz, twelve coach busses coming
in with police escorts. Is I was driving it? Here's
(23:14):
the funny thing. First of all, they they're using armed
guards for this whole thing, which I think is one
of the greatest ironies of a gun control march. Yeah, okay,
so um, but was it USDA organic? Do you know
how organic this march was? Right? So, first of all,
I like just the condescension that where he's like that
these people don't know what they're talking about around guns. Uh,
(23:38):
they just want gun control, I guess. But then she
refers to the Valentine's Day event in Parkland, which sounds
like it's like a silent auction fundraiser for like a
private school or something, or like a sail at a
fucking car dealership coming for the Valentine's Day event of
the year. Right, So it was just a fun Valentine's
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Day event that they're responding to and they all decided
to have this get together, but clearly they were being
funded by high level soros or Hollywood Royalty, because how
else could these filthy poppers afford the notoriously luxurious mode
of transport that is the fucking bus man. Well, also
(24:25):
it's it's like, Wow, you guys are crying over and
being afraid of the kids, and you think the way
you're gonna win their support is just by shipping on them.
And it just goes to show you just that this
kind of change of tradition that's happening because their mindset
is that you're wrong because you're a child, not because
you're actually wrong, but you're wrong because I'm an adult.
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And it's just like Danny DeVito's monologue in Matilda. You know, yeah,
I hit you with that deep. But this is the
main reason they're gonna lose this generation is be because
they feel like they don't have to fight for them.
They're like, no, you need to listen. You're misguided and
you are only helping push them away more because you
(25:10):
are shipping on these people. And when you say the
irony is that they have armed guards in a gun
control rally, just proves yet again, you don't know what
gun control is. You're just you are the misguided one. Right.
They object to the idea of guns and think that
guns shouldn't exist. Is like how they is, let's do
(25:31):
the bare minimum and at least ban weapons that professional
people in the military use in war. So this is
why they're so good, this is why they're a great
propaganda outlet, because they take the most cartoonist version of
the other side's argument and they're like, okay, so they
you know, this is an organization that has three very
clear things. They want to get rid of certain weapons,
(25:54):
they want the minimum on background checks, and like one
other thing that I can't remember because i'm a you know,
you're an old. You're an old. I'm an old, and
I'm also ill informed liberal. But uh, instead of talking
about those specific talking points and things that the marchers
are asking for, they're like, they think guns should never
(26:14):
have been invented, and they want them to disappear magically,
which no nobody has ever. What's next, These invisible guns
are gonna be marrying each other that never existed. Hold on,
you're you're messing up all your weird psychopathic but but
it is weird. I said this the last podcast, the
last episode I was on, and I'm gonna say it again.
It is weird to see this outlet using Alex Jones
(26:39):
talking points like trying to use the crisis actor angle.
And what's even more pathetic is them pussyfooting it to
be like you do the math, Like if you're gonna
do that, if you're gonna make that kind of disgusting statement,
then actually have the balls to say it. Don't don't
pussy foot around it like it's just it's really pathetic,
Like it's it really is, that's exactly right. Uh. They
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also had a segment where one of their men on
the street went out to interview some of the kids
and asked them what they thought of the Second Amendment,
and you know, most of them were just like it's
outdated or it's made for a different time. And uh,
then they cut back to the Fox in studio team
(27:24):
and they're like, yeah, just tear up the Constitution, I guess.
And then uh, one of the guys on Fox and
Friends like they don't learn about the Constitution in class.
And first of all, like everything the kids say is right. Obviously,
they like leave in the ums and oz to make
them seem dumber. It's very like Jay Leno jaywalking type thing.
(27:45):
But uh so they make them seem as dumb as possible.
But every like the content of what the students are
saying is true. It was literally made for a different time.
And labeling the Second Amendment outdated is such a reasonable
position that a Supreme Court decision in two thousand eight
brought it up. It was a dissenting opinion, but Justice
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John Paul Stevens was like, look, I don't think that
the framers of the Constitution, we're thinking about handguns when
they gave militiamen the right to keep muskets, and like
that's a completely valid argument. But basically, they show these
kids having valid arguments and they're like, yeah, sure, but
what's so funny is that they're like, oh, yeah, no,
(28:28):
it still holds up today. Our childhood movies don't even
hold up to the document does yeah, I mean also
to the guns they were even talking about then it
just took like forty seconds to shoot. So in their mind,
there wasn't like that like, well, you know, one of
these cycles get loose with a musket, something could happen,
uh you know again at very different times. And these people, yeah,
(28:51):
they were they're not possible. Also, they were impossible. They
were so hard to aim that like you know, once
people invented rifles we have today. For the Civil War,
it was that was the reason the Civil War was
so bloody, is because the generals weren't used to weapons
that you could actually aimed straight, and so they like
fought the war like you were just running up to
people in their general direction. And but because the weapons
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actually fired straight, like, lots and lots of people died
because they just didn't. They hadn't adapted their uh tactics
for a world in which straight like straight shooting effective
weapon re existed. And they had in mind when they
wrote the Constitution the same deal, like they were thinking
of muskets and shitty you know, things that fired round,
(29:40):
things that knuckleballed out out into the air, and who
the funknew where it was landing um who else? Who
else was avoiding meaningful coverage of of the march? Well
the n r A TV. Yeah, yeah. They had a
great clip where Grant stinch Field went on a ran
about how the leaders of the march quote hate our
(30:02):
country and are willing to quote hijack a group of
grieving children to advance their bogus cause. And then Dana
Losher Lash What's how do you pronounce? Dana Lash showed
up and you know, segued into the most important issue
that everybody had on their mind at this march, that
was about gum rights abortion, and we talked about the
(30:25):
falls equivalency that people on the right. We're drawing to
that like for twenty minutes last week, So I don't
think we need to do that. What one funny detail
of this segment is that they have stinch Field in
studio at n r A TV headquarters in Dallas, and
Dana Lash comes in via satellite live from uh also Dallas.
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So like when they do, I just didn't want to
drive over. She's like, yeah, I'm across town. Sorry over here.
At least Lie say She's yeah, like, yeah, I'm live
from d C Actually, right, yeah, exactly the street or
probably just in the next studio, and like, you know,
I guess they chose to be honest for that one,
(31:13):
Like it would be tacky to say she wasn't in Dallas.
Side note, Stinchfield is a last name i'd give a
villain in a comic book. Seriously. I love the point
you made if you about how like movies don't even
hold up from our childhood let alone. Like that's the
thing that uh, you know, somebody called me out. I
was talking about how my main things that I always
(31:35):
bring up are the British cold Gas study, and I
forget what the other thing is, the dependency ratio. The
dependency ratio are like my main things, and they were like, no, man,
you're the Flynn effect is your second most common thing.
And that's true. The Flinn effect which says that children's
accused are going up like three points every ten years,
(31:56):
which is true. And I think that that's why movies
from like the seventies and eight he don't hold up
is because the world, like is getting progressively smarter. And
I think that's also why we're seeing people like what
these kids they know less than nothing about guns? Why
should we listen to them, it's like, no, they're actually
just the first generation that their i Q has progressed
(32:17):
to the point where they look around they're like, wait,
what the fund is? Shakespeare in Love was the best picture.
Here we go, and I'm gonna tweet this so you know,
if if I don't get around and tweeting this yet,
you get your heard it here first. But basically it's
funny because the way we look at these kids are
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so wrong. Because everyone can admit that wisdom is an age,
it's experience. So when you look at these Parkland kids
who actually lived through a school shooting, they have more
wisdom on guns than a lot of these people who
are sitting up in their studios waking up throwing out
their curate. So they're using a drip coffee machine like
(33:01):
a herb. Yeah, like they don't they don't know they
they're they're yelling at these kids, calling them dumb, But
you don't know what it's like to be around an
active shooter, and you'd probably be talking a different tune
if you were. You have but have these kids humped
a gun before they know they have it? So see,
they don't know what they're talking. We need to get
to that. That brings us to our next favorite form
(33:23):
of right wing guns rights. Uh sort of protest against
gun control. Uh. So their gun videos are being banned
from YouTube, right, Yeah, a lot of them, like ones
that are explicitly about like how to make a fire,
to make a gun gun to automatic or simulated automatic fire,
other illegal things. People are like, what you're gonna take that,
(33:44):
Dallas bullshit? Uh So now they're uploading those videos to
porn hub because that's you know, you can get away
with it there, which, by the way, porn hub is
one of the most politically outspoken porn side. So I
cannot wait for them. I think they're just waiting for
all of them to be done and just gonna mask
wipe him and say fuck your guns. You know. Yeah,
(34:06):
I don't think at the time when we were first
leaking into they hadn't really said anything yet, but I'm
sure eventually can be like for this is not for you. Yeah, yeah,
unless it's the video of someone humping a gun. Yeah.
I wish they're like, and we're banning porn from you.
You're done here, You're done to x in x X,
go to x hamster and the only other piece of
(34:27):
gun news, uh is also somewhat bad news for the
right wing. I don't know if that last one is
necessarily no, it's just kind of interesting. But it's showing
that the culture porn hub than have an excuse for
being there then that you're watching pornography. Hey, what are
you doing on porn hub, Darryl? I'm just learning how
to convert my gun. Sorry, that was an offensive impression
(34:48):
of how Southern people talk. You would say, excuse me, Susan,
I'm learning how to make a high capacity magazine exactly,
and let me mod on. But so, Remington has apparently
filed for a Chapter eleve bankrupt one of the oldest
I think the oldest gun manufacturers in the country, right, yeah,
has in the words of Michael Scott, I declare bankrupts.
(35:15):
They've declared Chapter eleven to bankruptcy. Now, this isn't like
news because in February they said a local probably file
a bankruptcy because they knew how bad it was. But
many other you know, a lot of gun manufacturers are
feeling because gun sales have been down since Trump took
office because, oh guess what, when you don't have a Democrat,
you can't push your fearmongering ship of your guns are
about to be taken away. And even now it's not
like yeah, even like a Ruger, like their sales of
(35:37):
like it's not a it's not a good time to
be making bank banks. Yeah, you would think that the
whole thing is that when uh there's a school shooting
or when a Barack Obama gets elected president, uh, gun
sales shoot up because everyone's afraid they're going to ban them.
But even that hasn't been working, presumably because they have
already bought like all the guns, Like people in Americans
(35:58):
are just like, well, I've my whole house. I have
just a whole room filled with At this point, I
don't know if they've really done much to expand their
universal supporters. Like I think, if anything, they can maybe
move people who are already n r A members from
like the kind of interested into the slightly more aggressive version.
But like, I don't know how many people were like,
hey man, I saw that video with Killer Mike, and
(36:19):
now I'm really I'm I'm all in with the n
r A. This is another video Killer Mike was apparently
duped end up doing an interview with that guy Cooley
on Noir or whatever, the black dude who's on the
n r A TV who's doing really good for them.
Apparently Killer Mike was on and a lot of people
were like, Yo, what the funk because he was They
cut the interview to sort of look like that he
was against this, like these kids. But he was on
(36:41):
there to talk about black ownership of guns and things
like that, and he was like, hold on, they used
my thing. But he was also at the end he
was like, I can also advocate for black people to
own guns and also be in favor of gun control.
But yeah, it was interesting how he got He got
duped a little bit, but well you should have no. Yeah,
I'm like singing the n r A and like for what,
Like I'm not I'm not gonna go on to like
(37:05):
Alex Jones show and think I'm gonna be shown in
a good light. You're you're one of the best gamers
out there, right, You're using the info Wars brainforce someonement
Wait what yeh oky Man okay man vitamins. Yeah, and
that's when it's like yeah, but yeah, total frank and
(37:27):
bite clip right, all right, we're gonna take a quick break.
Whe'll be right back with a sweep of the Google trends.
And we're back, uh, and it's time for a roundup
(37:47):
of topics on America's mind via Google Trends. Google has
a nice function where you can look at searches that
are trending, searches that are popping up and becoming more
frequent it. By the way, I was reading an article
over the weekend about just Hope Picks and what her
role in the White House had been, and basically she
(38:09):
was to trump what technology is to all of us,
Like she would just be like who, yeah, basically indispensable.
Like where do I recognize that person from? What did
I say on this subject? Like just she was like
his alexa, yeah exactly, and what did I say just now? Yeah?
And now she's going away, so uh, well that's why.
(38:35):
So uh, some things that are trending right now. The
n C Double A Tournament is all over the trends, uh,
which you know it's not surprising, but I guess, uh
each year has gone up more and more than n
C Double A Tournament has become like a bigger and
bigger deal every year, and uh that continued this year.
(38:55):
I thought maybe it was gonna, you know, Peter out
because of all the scanneds and n C double a
basketball being at its worth stage. But I think there's
just a general overall trend of you know, people craving
like live events and live experiences to share with other
people on social media. Um, lil zann Uh is trending
(39:16):
because he apparently so this is a young rapper. I
like how you even struggled to even give him that distinction.
He's a young piece of ship with face tattoos, niece's
just fucking stay in school. So he uh, he looks
like he's like maybe sixteen. I think he's about eight
or nine. And he talked about Tupac. So what you're
(39:38):
gonna hear is them asking, well, so what do you
give Tupac on the scale of one to ten. He
gives a spicy answer. He gives Tupac a two and
causes ship boring. Now let me tell you something. You
cannot say that ship in the West Coast or in
hip hop generally speaking, you they cannot talk about Biggie
or Tupac anyway. So he got pressed by a bunch
of teenagers and he sort of went on an apology
tour after the fact, so what you can hear is
(40:00):
his answer and then sort of immediately walking it back
in front of a group of like kind of angry teenagers.
Two Born music from the media twisting my words, I
think is leg Park is definitely a legend. Legend your
(40:25):
words and they want you to hate me. Yeah, the
media twisted my words is always the worst sence to
But for to follow that up with I believe Tupac
is a leg is crazy because when you say the
media twist in my words, that means I'm put in
a situation where my words have gotten me into so
(40:46):
much trouble. And then to know that the source of
all that chaos is the fact that he went and
said some ship like he's from California, You've got to
know better. But like there are a few other videos
were like kids were just walking up to the street.
They're like, hey, home, you're not even close to be
in two bucks. Would you say about him? He's like, no,
I like Tupae, I love Tupae. You're getting me wrong.
And then he played California Love at a recent show,
(41:08):
but like didn't try and wrap anything, just like if
he really is about that, like being on Zan's bro you.
He probably even remember saying that ship let me tell
you about a place called the Wild Wild westward to
the uh. So I wanted to get if he We've
(41:31):
been seeing trending for the past like three weeks. We've
been seeing Fortnite on Google trends, and you know, I
knew that became a big deal when Drake streamed, but
it's it was actually out there before Drake streamed, existed
before Drake. Yeah, it existed and was like one of
the main things in our sort of digital unconscious. So
(41:57):
I'm curious what's your take on Fortnite. If he is
a gamer, if he is the host of forthcoming podcast Nerdificent,
which had its trailer drop last week. It's episode zero
launches tomorrow and then episode one launches next week on Tuesday.
But if he give us the breakdown on forehand, Fortnite
(42:20):
is such a interesting moment in gaming. So just to
give you the full background, there was a game called
Player Unknown Battlegrounds called pub G, which was a spinoff
of a game called h one z one which had
a game mode called King of the Kill. H one
z one was a survivals on the game, and then
they had a spinoff game called King of the Kill
(42:40):
where a hundred players would drop on a island and basically,
just like Battle Royal and Hunger Games, Last Man Standing wins,
player Unknown modded the game armor to create both the
mod H one z one. Then he left H one
z one and then created player known Battlegrounds, which was
a more realistic and tactical take on the King of
(43:03):
the Hill because King of the Hill was kind of cartoony.
What ended up happening is as pub grew in popularity,
H one z one tried competing and going the same
route of just being more tactical, and the fans hated
it because they liked both of them. Meanwhile, there was
a game called Fortnite created by Epic Games. You may
know them from such games as Years of War, Unreal Tournament,
(43:26):
and they had a game called Fortnite which was a
kind of defend your base game where you had a
building function and you would build and defend your base.
And then for funzies, since they saw H one z
one and pup G, they created a Battle Royal mode,
which was cool because not only does it take the
fun parts of the Battle Royale, but it adds its
own Fortnite flare by adding a building aspect, so you
(43:49):
can scavenge for resources and build a base in the
In the midst of all of this, you're fighting guess
how many people, So you're it's like you're dropped on island.
There's a hundred people there and you're all trying to
kill each other and be the last one alive was
talking about, right, so you can do solo duos or
(44:11):
people you're playing against real people, And so what ended
up happening is pub G was great. It was an
early access game, which means that it wasn't fully released.
Then it released, and it wasn't that great because it
was still broken. There was no incentive for Player Unknown
to really develop the game out because it was already
getting used in the sports. There was so much money
(44:34):
in it, so I feel like it just took a
dip in like bug squashing and more into monetization and
how they can make money. They're still doing well though,
they're still competing, but Fortnite kind of is more polished
because it was already a pretty almost complete game and
they just added this mode. How much Fortnite are you playing?
(44:54):
I'm playing quite a bit. I went back and I
was playing the Witcher, But now I'm back on fort
and you were playing with grand Mom was here earlier
and you had to carry him. Yeah, I carried him.
You like when I joined up, he was like, I'm
just trying to make it into the top ten. Two
games later he's in the top ten. You know, Oh yeah,
how did that work? You know? Your boy is nice
with the two What do you think is the What
(45:15):
do you think because I've watched a few like clips
of streams and people playing and stuff like that for
someone like me, because I'm about to just download it
and probably ruin my life? What do you say to
people who have been hearing about it? Sell them on
it right now? Okay, so life like you're saying you're
gonna in your social life. You kind of do, but
you kind of don't. Well, no, because of the reason
(45:36):
that the games can vary. Like you, your average game
is probably about twenty minutes. But is it just like
a very small space and oh yeah, I forgot to mention,
after like every two minutes, the circle gets smaller and
pushes over one together, so it moves like you. It's
not just you survive as long as you survived, the
(45:57):
circle is gonna push you together until oh there's one
band standing. But games can be as long as twenty
minutes and as short as thirty seconds, because you can
land someone's right by you with a shotgun and you're done.
Is it always a hundred people, Yeah, it's always a hundred.
Sometimes it will dip to like nine gay, but usually
nine plus all the time. And what's dope about it
(46:19):
is if you got somewhere to go, you're like, let
me bang one out. You can probably bang one or
two out because the games are so fast and you
can get on with your life. But if you're like,
oh man, but I get I get addicted. So I'm like,
I get that loop going. So you ever been last
man standing? Oh yeah, I've I've I've won a few times.
But here's the thing, and here's where I will cut
(46:40):
Edgar and Cody some slack who I was carrying into greatness.
There's cross play, so I can play with you on
my PC when you're on PS four, and you can,
as a PS four can play with someone who's playing Mobile.
The thing is, though, is if someone's playing Mobile and
you're playing PS four, they get bumped up to PS four.
(47:01):
And if I'm playing PC and we're all on PS four,
everyone on PS four gets bumped up to the PC
player base. When you say bumped up, you mean like
the engine is. What it means is like you're playing
against people on PC. Got it. So you're using PS
four controllers, but you're playing against PC players. So it's
gonna be there's gonna be uh slight difference. It's gonna
(47:21):
be hard to keep up because PC, you know, we
can three Well, just because you have a mouse, you
have a quicker range of motion in your vision to
PC Master Race. Yeah. Uh alright, man, that totally made sense.
So Jack, that sounds like you're gonna be on Fortnite. Uh.
That is definitely the most excited about a video game
(47:43):
I have been. Uh it's three double yeah, I mean
class over. My last gaming experience was in sixty four
and that that had a Golden Eye and ship, and
it sounds like Golden Eye but like times a. Yeah,
it's also Yeah, that's the main selling point I keep forgetting.
(48:04):
It's free. Yeah, exactly, it's a free game and it
plays like it shouldn't be free. Yeah. Damn that Infinity
War is the only movie that's making it into our
sort of globabal or American mind space, uh anything, the
memes or the thing that's really taken is that what
(48:24):
people are Yeah, just sort of like Infinity wor will
be the greatest crossover bent of our time. And then
people have just been responding with like photo crossover things.
But that's the only that's the only like engagement I've
had with him, because that trailer looked super whack to me,
like the bad guy the dude, like than yeah, he
looks like a fucking claymation character. He just did not
(48:45):
look very interesting. This is and I think it's one
of the things where the hype is really coming from
the comic book fans because Fanos is like that dude.
He he is like the biggest, baddest dude they can fight.
It's almost to the point where it's like, do you
all need to keep making movies after this because you're
gonna fight the baddest dude? Got it all right? If
(49:10):
he It has been a pleasure as always having you
on the dailies, like, uh, where can people find you? Oh,
you can find me at if you way way I
apply w A d I w E on Twitter and Instagram.
If you're looking for those lifting picks, go to if
he Lifts on Instagram. That's where I'm pushing away the
legal time and where and where can people listen to you? Oh?
(49:34):
You can listen to me on Nertive Ascent every Tuesday.
Like like Jack said, episode zero is going to be
a dropping tomorrow and episode uh one, we'll be dropping
next Tuesday, and then you know new episodes from then on.
Never And yeah, y'all heard Danny. Who's the other post
she was on the last week you want? So now
it's time for you to listen to their show. But
(49:56):
the way if you just made Fortnite makes sense to you,
they're gonna be making sense of all sorts of geek culture,
things that you see in pop culture and might not
totally understand. They're gonna make it uh approachable. Uh miles,
Where can people find you? You can find me on
Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. You can find
me on Twitter at Jack Underscore. Oh, Brian, you can
(50:17):
find us at Daily Zeygeist on Twitter. We're at the
Daily Ziegeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page,
and we have a website Daily ziegeist dot com where
we post our episodes and footno we link off to
articles and sources of the information that we talked about
today's episode. That is gonna do it for today, Miles.
(50:38):
Do you have a song to write us out on? Yeah? Okay,
so speaking of things that like, you know, time Moves
by a great album by the artist Uncle called Science
Fiction came out twenty years ago. Uh. And there's a
track that I would love to play on their featuring
Tom York called Rabbit in Your Headlights, which is kind
of you know, a lot of people don't realize that
it's an Uncle song but has a great Tom York
(50:59):
vocals on it. Uh. And this was twenty years ago,
and this ship sounds like a good song for right now.
So keep that in your mind, all right, and we're
gonna right out on that. We will be back tomorrow
because it is a daily podcast. We'll talk to you
guys that I'm a rabbit headlight, scared of the spotlight.
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You don't come to visit. I'm stuck in the spell.
She's as well, she's crying, she crows, well, she's laughing,
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flapperly fingers of sucking your soul. Oh, o rubbing headlight Christians,
(52:46):
A bad blood was still toil flapper uh things a
sucking sound. If you're frightened or dime, and then you
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hold it on, you'll see devil's tar in your life away.
What if you've made your peace, then the devil's a
really angels freaking from hearing here. What a ground the
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two stations, but fer a lost patience on the rabbit
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