March 22, 2023 • 61 mins
In episode 1446, Jack and guest co-host Jody Avirgan are joined by hosts of the Blocked Party podcast, Stefan Heck & John Cullen to discuss...The new Fox News lawsuit, Ben Affleck's new film 'Air', the deadly fungus among us, and much more!
2. Ben Affleck Screens ‘Air’ for First Time at SXSW – The Hollywood Reporter
3. Candida Auris, a Deadly Fungus, Spread Rapidly During Pandemic, CDC Says - The New York Times
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season two eighty, episode
three of Thy Stay production of by Heart Radio. This
is a podcast where we take a deep dive into
American share consciousness. And it's Wednesday, March twenty second, twenty
twenty three as of this recording. No arrests yet. I
(00:20):
don't think, right, Jody, you got your eyes on the
news ticker, and I could have told you that. I
may have told you that yesterday. Yeah, I mean, yeah, no,
I don't know. He's usually such a reliable source, yea. Anyways,
my name's Jack O'Brien aka plump Pers. I got plumpers,
milky hit white plumpers, plumper plumpers. I got plumpers, milky
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thick white plumpers. That is supposed to be thunder by
Imagine Dragons. I did my best. That is courtesy a
fighter of the night man on the discord. That is
an evil song man thunder by Imagine Dragons because it
is very catchy to the five and six year old mind,
(01:07):
and it is just the bitchiest. He's just like, everybody
laughed at me, but now you'll all be crying in
the nosebleeds at my concert because I am imagine dragons. Anyways,
I'm thrilled to be joined by today's special guest co host.
You know him from many a podcast his new podcast
(01:28):
with Ted and Pushkin as Good Sport. It's Jody Aberga.
Thanks for having me back. What percentage of your day
is spent? Comamp with the little Songs? For the beginning
of this show, we have a we have a thriving
discord and they feed him and I scroll through and anything. Yeah,
(01:50):
I don't know, and I will find out after we
hit record, whether I know how to sing that song,
whether it's within my vocal range. Um, not a ton
of prepperation, but I do appreciate it, and there's some
real geniuses in the discord. We also bring up a
question of who gets to refer to themselves as having
a quote vocal range. That's right. If you can hit
(02:14):
one note, that's a range, right, that's range. Uh well, Jody.
We're thrilled to be joined by two very funny comedians
who together host the podcast Blocked Party, which you're not
going to believe. This also very funny. Please welcome to
the show, John Cullin and Stephan he Hey, guys, thanko,
(02:37):
thanks for having us On. Yeah, thank you, thanks for
doing the show. Guys, your show is very funny. You're
recently talking about an issue that I've been noticing more
and more recently, um, which is, you know, you talk
a lot about social media and the ways in which
social media is getting worse. Um where the way is
(02:58):
Google is getting worse. I was told that things were
going to get better, and it does not seem to
be the case with Google is pretty much unusable as
of late. Google is all like if you search for anything,
it's like three ads and then fifty things created by
like an ai bought and it's just like impossible to
(03:20):
use now. But even like Twitter, not even Twitter, especially
Twitter Twitter, Yeah, but we're owned by Elon must Yeah,
even managed to get fucked up. I don't know if
you noticed today, but there's a thing going on where
you'll click on a tweet and then it'll say it's
been deleted, but it hasn't been deleted. So that's like
a new thing. Yeah, it is sort of fun that
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it is like getting broken in new and exciting ways
every single day. So I do sort of appreciate that.
For the longest time, when Twitter was functional and kind
of a big part of my life. I kind of
would tell myself, Actually, the best version of Twitter would
be one in which I write a tweet but no
one sees it right, just getting out of my system,
(04:04):
but then not have to deal with any of the
fall back. And now I think I actually am living
that out and I don't live in the dream. I
don't like it. No, I don't like it. Elon must
made that possible for you. Man, I don't know what
everybody is complaining about. Well, this was my theory, like
from day one of Donald Trump when he was that
his his team should have created a basically a fake
Twitter for him and just let him like rage type
(04:25):
into a phone and tell him that it was like
doing great, um, but never actually haven't brought into the
well that's smart. It's like because I remember hearing a
new story a while back, where I think it was
in Germany. Outside like a senior center, they put like
a fake bus stop for the for the Alzheimer's patients,
so they think they're waiting for the bus. Would be
the same sort of idea. Basically, I think they should have.
(04:46):
I think they should have got Trump on the Dawn
Cherry plan, which if you're not a Canadian. We are,
We're both Canadians. You're not a Canadian sports watcher, Dawn
Cherry is sort of um. He was like a hockey
prognosticator for a long time, and they let him be
on the air well into his senile years. And then
when they first gave him Twitter, the rumor was that
(05:08):
he couldn't use Twitter, he couldn't figure it out. He
was in his seventies, and the rumor was that he
would call a number and the number would go to
an interns voicemail and he would tell the intern what
he wanted the intern to tweet, and then the intern
would tweet it in all caps. Because Don Cherry's whole
thing was yelling, you know, kind of a Stephen A.
Smith type deal. And yeah, they could have got Trump
(05:31):
on that plan. They should have had. It should have
been a step between him and tweeting. Just call a voicemail.
They can edit out the crazy stuff and you know,
and then deliver it to the masses. I think that
was the method for a while there, minus the editing
out of the crazy stuff. Yeah, I think he I
don't think he's ever typed anything with his tiny fingers before.
(05:52):
I think it's all you know him dictating two various people. Listen,
people who are not familiar with Don Cherry, we'll be
shocked to hear from John's description of him that he
ended up getting canceled and said some pretty awful things air. Yeah,
terrible thing, Well he said, he said terrible things for
like years, right, and it really just took a while
(06:13):
until he said one thing in particular that was like
quite heinous. Um. But he was canceled. Culture to catch up. Yeah,
he was famous for and I guess he's still alive. Um.
But uh, and his I mean, I don't want to,
like say, go listen to his podcast, but his podcast
is truly insane. Um. The intro music, how would you
describe it, John, Um, Well, he used to put out
(06:36):
these videos every year called rockham sock'em which was a
rock'em sock 'em Hockey, which was a compilation of hockey
hits and goals and saves from the previous year, narrated
by Dawn Cherry and often, for some reason, all of
the clips and these videos were set to bad techno
sounding music, nineties techno, nineties techno. And so that is
(06:59):
the opening of his podcast and It starts with him
staying his famous phrase, all right, let's go, and then
the techno music kicks in. So yeah, I would describe
it as like early nineteen ninety two bad techno music
with Don Cherry soundclips over and he's like ninety years
old now too, so it like fits even less D
(07:21):
did Don Cherry. Is he the origin of the reason
why everyone well, well why and also why everyone says
let's go all the time. Yeah, I'm fascinated with trying
to track down how let's go became the go to
catch crass. That's an interesting theory because he was possible. Yeah,
(07:41):
he was saying it like I remember growing up watching
him on Hockey nine Canada every Saturday, and he would
say it a lot. And that was in like the
mid nineties, late nineties, so oh yeah, even earlier, maybe
he would do the gun. He would do a gun
like it would be like and do a finger gun
to the camera, So that could be something worth dive into.
F I'm planning to the extended go the let's go
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like it was kind of let's go, Yeah, let's go.
And then Tom Brady you know, like like it's like jazz,
you know, Uh, Tom Brady is the Coltrane to Don
Cherry's Davis, you know, and he comes along and he
really pushes things along and and and and reappropriates let's
go and then you know. But yeah, I mean people
(08:26):
have been saying let's go in sports contexts for for
a long time, right, it's just the saying it constantly,
And now it's now it's jumped out of sports, right
and it's just basically a it's I mean, it is
the default expression of enthusiasm in any context now, and
it's kind of bizarre to me. I'll say when I'm
(08:48):
when I'm playing soccer in real life, or when I'm
playing like FIFA or like John and I play NHL
a lot, and like it's very common for us to
say that after we score a goal or something. So
and I'm like, thirty four, Like, it's not I don't
it's not okay. Yeah, No, I think I think it's fine.
It's acceptable. We don't have to hate every new trend
that comes along. I think that's a fine one. That
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doesn't bother me. I think there's a lot of performative
like this new thing that people everybody's doing all of
a sudden, it's like, that's that's a fine one for me.
I'm doing it because of Don Cherry to be clear, Yes, okay,
it is a homage. Yeah, all right, John Stephan, We're
going to get to know you a little bit better
in a moment. First, we're gonna tell our listeners a
couple of the things we may talk about. There is
(09:32):
a new story about a deadly fungus that I am
here to tell you, I don't think if I had
to guess, and I am not part of the CDC's
Mycotic Diseases branch um, but the CDC's Micotic Diseases branches
on their bullshit again, They're they're saying this is something
we need to be worried about. If I had to guess,
(09:53):
I think this is maybe a reaction to the last
of us um and scientists getting excited when people are
listening to them so famous lat Like I would love
to be the guy who's like, don't listen to this,
like the day before the Apocalypse. But we'll talk about that.
We'll talk about maybe this Fox News producer's lawsuit against
(10:16):
Fox News. The reviews have started trickling in for Ben
afflex Air, and they are incredibly positive, So we'll talk
about the same with the flame and hot Cheeto's origin story.
So we're just this has been a trend on the
daily zygeist of late, but this new wave of brand
(10:38):
related movies and the idea that brands are to modern
American culture what royalty was to Shakespearean culture and like that,
this is just what our movies are going to be
about from now on. So we'll talk about all of
that plenty more. But first, John Stephen, what is something
from your searchest three that is reeling about you? John?
(11:02):
You want to kick us off? Sure? I look, you
know you said you you Jack. You've been listening to
a little bit of block Party the last few days.
And while look, I'm a pretty white guy and just
searched I think probably the most white guy thing I've
ever searched. This happened last week and Stephan was actually
(11:24):
present for this, but I had to Google search how
to get kombucha out of a laptop. We were just
about to record an episode of block Party and I
spilled about half a can of kombucha on my MacBook
Air keyboard and how I knew it was a Mac? Yeah? Yeah, exactly, Yeah, No,
(11:45):
quick about it kimbucha has never been spilled on That
would have actually been a first in history. You can't
google it. There's no results if you look up kombucha
PC spill um. But yeah, so I did spill a
kombucha on my MacBook and I was, yeah, googling how
to take care of that, And turns out I took
(12:06):
it into the Apple Store and blockily didn't hit the board.
So I only look at that. I only owe them
four hundred and eighty dollars for a dome. It's bad. Well,
the guy the genius bar would have been like, what
it's like the most common This happens like ten times
a day. Yeah, so let me ask kombucha. He just
looks you up and down, like, let me guess, um,
(12:29):
the I feel like there's a big portion of LA's population.
That would have been like, that's actually good for your
computer and you actually don't need to take it in.
You should just let it rock a little bit. It's
gonna grows some healthy biomes in there. Yeah, how about you,
Steth And what's something from your search history? Well this,
(12:49):
so this is something. John's gonna hear this and be
like of course, and he's gonna kind of be mad
at me. I think too. But I'm a big fan
of like uh digital like card games, so like Hearthstone,
I got like way too into and still kind of am.
And this is a reason development for me, Like reason
is in like the past, like four or five days.
But I've started playing a game called Marvel Snap, and
(13:11):
so my search term is Marvel Snap beginner decks. And
have any of you played the game Marvel Snap? I'm
assuming no. I mean I'll ask John. I know what
the answer is, John, have you played Marvel A Life? Okay, Well,
I don't know. The thing is, I don't like this
has taken over my life. It's a very fast paced,
(13:32):
very addictive digital card game. You can play on your
phone or on your computer, and the games are like
two to three minutes long, so you can play like,
you know, one to four of them on the toilet,
depending on kind of what's going on there. And I'm
I'm just like hooked to the point where it's like, oh,
this is like going to be dangerous for me, Like
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there's no doubt in my mind. It's it's incredibly addictive
and you collect a Marvel like an individual card and
then like that is yours. Like I feel like this
is backing up into NFTs somehow, just in my brain.
I feel like it just barely dodged being connected to NFTs.
But yeah, and the thing is, like, I'm not even
(14:15):
like a Marvel guy necessarily, Like I've stopped watching the
Marvel movies and like I so it's not that, it's
just that the gameplay itself is like so perfectly and
like tightly designed to the point where I think John
would actually like it, because John's a big board game
guy and like strategy games and things of that nature.
So I think there's a chance he would like it.
But it's just like such a hard sell to get
(14:36):
John past the Marvel stuff. I think, what are you
talking about? Man? I love what Avengers s dot T
dot A dot t dot I dot oh dot M
I saw that the thing that's coming out. I don't know.
I don't want movies, but I Avengers station. Yeah, but
it's a I can't read what what did you just spell? Station? Yeah? Station,
(15:00):
don't add for it. I think it's I don't know
what stations. I think that's a local thing in Vancouver
actually have only Oh, you're right, Yeah, it's a completely
immersive and educational experience that brings visitors into the world
of the Avengers. Not educational in there. They probably got
like a grant for funding because they have to work
(15:20):
about Marvel. That's learned about the entire MC. But what
does station stand for st? That's how much scientific training
and tactical intelligence operative network. Okay, this is where the
minds that used to work for the CIA have gone to.
(15:41):
Right for the Marvel Cinematic u direction, Like everybody's talking
about STEM, we need we need our own, right, what's
the acronic for us? Seven? Where did where did the
Marvel Cinematic Universe lose you? Because I have a pretty
specific answer that I feel like it was. Um, was
it Guardens, the Galaxy two? I think No. I was
(16:02):
kind of on and off. But the last one I
saw in theaters because it was kind of like, well,
there's nothing to do this weekend, let's just go see
a movie was the last Thor movie. And it was
to the point where we almost like walked out of
it because we were it was just not maybe it
just not for us. I mean it's it's not aimed
at us, maybe necessarily, but it just like really pissed
(16:23):
me off. I guess like everything about it that was
loving thunder. Yes, yeah, um, I would imagine dragons. I
thought I thought Christian Bale was good, but see I
do have range, Jody, But Jack, where where did it lose? You? Like?
Right around the same time with watching the Doctor Strange
(16:46):
one from Sam Ramie, Like I was like, oh, this
could be cool. It was like and it had like
cool moments in it, but it just I feel like
every time I watched one of them, it inevitably gravitates
back towards a lightning fight like Cgne like if I
(17:08):
I think they just need to set an internal rule
for themselves that if a giant like purple lightning portal
opens in the sky, we have made a mistake and
need to like, you know, go back and rejigger things
because yeah, yeah, it's the beam stuff is just like
it's everyone has the same power and then everyone gets
hit by the beam and they're just like kind of
(17:30):
they're just like singed a little bit. They're like fine,
you know, it's like daffy duck logic. Yeah. Um so yeah,
I'm not I don't like Marvel necessarily, but the game
itself is like it's incredible, Like within like a day,
I was like, oh, this is like taking over my
entire life. And yes, all right, well let's take a
quick break. We'll come back. We'll do some overrated, underrated
(17:52):
and maybe get to some news. We'll be right back
and we're back, and Stephane, let's stick with you. What
is something you think is overrated? This is something that
I discovered last year, but I would say kind of
(18:13):
just like regular like soft bath mats are now those
are overrated to me now, um, because I was at
an Airbnb. I went to Twitch Con in San Diego
last year, and at the Airbnb, they had these bath
mats that are like like hard almost like almost like
hard like the bamboo ones. No, it was almost like
hard like clay or like stone kind of um, and
(18:37):
they were like incredible. It was like, I can't go back.
John shaking his head. I mean, well I was. I
was at like a normal Airbnb and they just had
these these We saw the math mats and and we're
like this is interesting. And then there's a stone that
absorbs water. I'm I, yeah, I've heard about this. Yeah,
(18:58):
so I I guess going like the regular bathmat to
me is now overrated because of how much I like
this stone bath mat. Did you have one? Yeah? Of course,
Oh my god, you came home from twitch Con and
you bought a stone bath mat. Yeah, that's like a
normal thing to do. How much was it? Well, look,
(19:19):
let's move on to the next question. Well, my question
on that is like shipping what a what a shipping
like that like getting a stone delivered to your house.
It would be lighter than pet And I guess, like
my worry was like if you step on it in
like the wrong way, will it like crack because it
does sort of feel that way, but it is actually
pretty solid. It seems like um. But it was shipped
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in like a huge box with like tons of like
extra packaging and stuff, right like the box they put
the Arc of the Covenant in at the end of
Indiana Jones just arrives on your front front. The box
was like legitimately the size of like if you bought
like a huge TV. And then the bath mat is
just like normal bath mat size. So it's like very strange, um,
(20:01):
but it's it's very nice. It's just nice to to
step on it. It absorbs the water by this ninety
dollar one. No, it was less than that, but not
much by the tone of your voice. Okay, just well,
and I was also in that's in Canadian dollars, so
like that's that's like that's like nothing, right, So yeah, anyway,
moving on, how about you John with something you think
(20:25):
is overrated. So there's been this recent trend in my
internet algorithm where I've really cornered the market on Instagram
and Facebook when I check it occasionally, where I'm now
almost exclusively getting played like inspiring sports videos like it'll
just oh, Josh Allen, you know, threw a ball around
(20:47):
with this kid who or you know who's sick or whatever.
And I love now. I'm a huge sucker for all
that kind of stuff. Athletes being nice to kids. Love it.
The only problem is I'm now sucked into this sports
video vortex where Instagram also thinks I want to see
videos of what teams are playing on the JumboTron during
(21:10):
a game. Um, and I've got I've got news for you.
Not interested? Um, if I'm not at the game, I
don't care who in your crowd looks like the lion
from Madagascar. I don't care that you oh we lit
up the visiting team with this little insult or with it. Wow,
I think it's way over rated. I don't need to
(21:31):
see a video of the JumboTron at a sports game, no,
thank you. Yeah, that is a really not a transferable
like Uniti team. And I've written for the JumboTron, Like
I I worked for the Vancouver Canucks for a while
writing wows for the JumboTron, which is a very Canadian thing.
(21:52):
I think, um, and wait, wait you wrote you wrote jokes?
Are you like we're coming routs? Yeah? Like more jokes.
So I auditioned to be the Canucks in arena host
at different times and I was rejected both times, which,
if you know about the state of the Canucks franchise
right now, probably a blessing. I think I dodged a bullet.
But yeah, they knew I was a comedian, so they
(22:15):
wanted to start doing some more funny like in house stuff.
And one of the main things they were doing, which
you will see on your Instagram algorithm if these sports
JumboTron video shows up, is one thing they'll do is
they'll try and catch an opposing fan looking at their
phone and then they will imagine, like there's a text
conversation happening to them and another, so it'll be like, oh,
(22:38):
here's a Flames fan. Let's imagine what the two Flames
fans are texting each other. And I would write the
like I would write the jokes for the for the
text stuff. So that was kind of like the main
thing they had me do and it was actually pretty good.
That's awesome. I would enjoy the hell out of that
in arena in arena, probably not on Instagram, yeah, but exactly. Yeah.
(23:02):
I will say, like the the in arena stuff you
obviously have to be there for. But the stuff I
do like is, um, who's the Chicago Bulls mascot, Benny
the Bully. I will never get tired of seeing Benny
the Bull just dump uh, like a huge plastic bag
full of popcorn on someone like that. That is funny
every single time to me. But that is humiliating someone
(23:22):
I'm on board of course, absolutely. That goes without saying. Yeah,
but I don't need the kiss caam No, I don't know.
I think some of those are funny, and I mean
they're clearly staged, but some of those, some of those
are pretty good. Or that the dance offs you know
with the units here we have an insider. Here are
some of the kisscams staged? Oh almost everything, yeah staged? Yeah,
(23:42):
I mean, no, no question me. I think that they
are consistently finding couples where the woman refuses to kiss
the guy and gets super upset and then dumps her
soda on his head and storms out of the arena.
You think that's happening like like a few times a
week around in arenas around the country. I mean, catching
very boring kisscams, I guess because I've never seen that happen.
The new bit they they're doing a lot is like
(24:03):
they'll do the they'll show a kiss cam and then
a woman and a man will start kissing, and then
another man shows up, Yeah, and they sort of like, oh, like, oh,
he doesn't Scotti doesn't know, you know, what is he doing?
Like he's like cheering so hard he doesn't notice his
wife is like kissing the guy on the other side
(24:24):
or something. Is that the fre he's coming back from
the bathroom or so. Yeah, the joke will usually be
that she is kissing like so, let's say it's at
that Canucks game kissing a guy in a Canucks Nucks
Jersey and then her husband by friend or husband will
come backward flames Jersey. Yeah, and this is good stuff.
(24:47):
Elaborate humiliations opposing team. I love it's funny. Those are real.
I've got a Marvel snap. What is uh? What of
the thing? Is underrated? John? Yeah? Sure, underrated. I'm sticking
sort of sports theme algorithmically themed skate videos. I'm not
(25:08):
a I'm not a skateboarder. I used to a skateboard
to get around a little bit, but not a huge skateboarder.
But god, I love a good skate video. Nothing better.
Just pausing on Instagram. Wow, this is a great skate video.
I love it. It's harmless most of the time, just
a great way to pass the time. You're a big
Tony Hawk pro skater player, all yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
(25:28):
But that doesn't mean anything. I'm just saying, I you know,
I love I just love to watch a good skate video.
I think they're underrated. I think not enough people appreciate
how hard skateboarding is and how impressive a lot of
these videos are. In my opinion, that video game did
ruin skate videos for me for a little bit, because
I was like this, these people aren't shit compared to
(25:49):
what I can do. And on n sixty four, I
haven't played video games since then sixty four, but have
a use, Steph, And what's something you think is underrated?
I would say goldfish crackers as like a snack for adults, Yeah,
because I think people think of goldfish crackers and they think, oh,
that's that's like a that's like a child snack, that's
for children, and you know what they would be right However, Uh,
(26:14):
they're just a very nice snack to have, although I
do feel like because I always get like the huge
carton of them, and you never feel worse than when
you were like elbow deep inside the carton trying to
get the goldfish at the bottom of it. I guess
you can pour it out into a bulb. I don't
do that. I'm just reaching in um. But just just
the regular flavored, not the because there's the goldfish ones
(26:35):
where there's like no flavor to it, right, just the
saltine flavor. Almost. Yeah. I don't know if you've ever
like purchased original Yeah, I think those are called original, right?
They blue box white crackers, Yes, just a disaster. They're
more like soup crackers. I guess right, like you put
them in soup. But to me, original goldfish are like
the orange ones and like the orange total right, and
(26:58):
they're fantastic as a sack. I think I would say underrated.
I feel like people don't talk about them when they're
talking about like best snacks. So yeah, goldfish crackers for me, Yeah,
they're actually the origin story of goldfish crackers is in
development Warner Brothers, and I think it's gonna be great. Actually,
I mean we might as well just like get right
(27:19):
into Ben Affleck's Air because it premiered at south By
on Saturday. Ben Affleck called the premier the most important
night of my professional life. And the reviews are in.
They're literally all positive, like it's one hundred percent. There's
only nine reviews in I guess, but not the first
(27:41):
nine that came in. It's one hundred percent on Rotten Tomatoes.
And I just want to like read a description of
like from one of these reviews. Afflex successfully captures nikes
heartwarming and hilarious marketing journey while paying respectful homage to
all involved. Air is a tremendous underdog story filled with
(28:02):
lovable characters. Um, it's just like there's something so strange
to me about all of this, and yet like it
makes perfect sense. But it's also like to be like
the underdog journey of Nike's marketing decision to make Air
Jordan shoes. Well, it's one of those movie concepts that
(28:23):
feels like, oh, this is like a funnier die fake
trailer from like twenty fourteen. Yeah, but it's real, and
like it sort of reminds me because I didn't. I'm
not surprised it's getting good reviews because it has a
really good cast and I'm sure I will watch this
movie eventually. I don't think I'm going into theaters to
see it. But um, there was that McDonald's movie, The Founder, Yeah,
and that was a great movie, right, and I and
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I think going into it, I was like, how is
how is this going to be good? And it's because
they made The Founder McDonald's into like a huge dick, yeah,
just a monster yeah, And so it was that was
I really enjoy that movie. So if this is I
guess this won't be the same sort of style of
movie necessarily. But if the McDonald's movie can be good,
then I don't see why Air can't be good either.
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It will not be the same style. It turns out
it's like it is the It turns Phil Knight and
Sonny Vaccaro like into these underdogs who like coming up
with a marketing concept around the air Jordan's shoe, which
I totally fell for. I am gonna see this movie.
I am like, I'm pretty sure I'm going to enjoy it.
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But it's you know, this is an important myth for
my life, like my childhood. I still wear Jordan's I
Love I Love Air Jordan's. This completely captured me so
like seeing what happened behind the scenes, but it's also
upsetting to me that this is this is what we've got.
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It totally makes sense. These are the most powerful and
influential forces in our civilization. They of course we would
want to watch movies about them. But it's just weird.
How does it? How does it make you feel that
like the kind of big first swing at a Jordan movie? Um,
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not a documentary obviously, but the movie is like this
weird kind of sideways angle in at it. Would you
Jo of sorts? No? No, I would not, because I
don't like I think that. My first question was, like, wait,
who did they get to play Michael Jordan and they
completely like cut around him, and uh, like I don't
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I don't know like about the ethics of this and
like it's but it it seems like the thesis of
the movie is like he's just this sort of like
god like entity and they're trying to like move around
him and harness. But yeah, like that that is one
of the things. One of the not uniformly positive things
(30:57):
somebody said was just like George gets just one word
to say, and when he's present, the film shoots and
cuts around him. It's unintentionally hilarious when in one crucial
boardroom scene, he hastily turns his head away to study
something on a wall before you can catch a proper
glimpse of which is its like like an Austin Powers opening.
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They have like, you know, a tray of flowers following
his face around. But that I think that's the only
way to tell this story until like, you know, twenty
thirty years from now, when like nobody remembers what it
was like to actually watch Michael Jordan. Yeah, I mean
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it is a little strange or I don't know what
it is. It's it's something that you know, it's like
here's a story about a black athlete, one of the
first like people to really like gain some agency and
build some real capital. And the story they tell about
that is about all the like schlubby white executives surrounding him,
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heroes Jody yea heroes man. But you know, I was
just scanning headlines about this, and it's like one after another,
the headlines are all like Ben Affleck talks about why
Michael Jordan isn't in the movie, like, here's why Michael
Jordan isn't. I mean, it's just going to be the
question around this movie, and Ben Affleck's I think very
carefully crafted response to it is like Jordan is so recognizable,
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so steeped in the culture that like to put him
in in any way. People know who he is and
they would like ring hollow or whatever, which, you know,
I don't know. I think there's probably other reasons why
Michael Jordan isn't portrayed in the movie necessarily, though I
guess he was involved behind the scenes a little bit
and sort of at least given the blessing to the
to the film. I would be interested to know if
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if John, because John famously does not watch movies yea,
so he I think he watches like one or two
movies a year. Maybe will this be on the list, John, Oh,
I'm going to the theater baby more. I love the
Underdog Story and Shoe Doog of course my favorite book
of all time, and I'm really looking forward to digging in. No,
(33:06):
I I'm sure. Maybe why shouldn't say I'm sure I'll
see it because that's never does seem like the type
of movie you would see though, Like I mean, our
block party listeners understand that John sees like no movies,
but when he does see a movie, it's one that
you would like, never expect. So I think a couple
of months ago we were talking about movies you had seen,
and you had almost seen Up in the Air. Yeah,
I don't know. I mean, maybe I'll see It's it's
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very anything with air in the type. Yeah. Air is
a big Ye, the air up there are is a
big for me. Do love that pawn air I also love.
And the one thing I thought stuck out when you know,
looking at some of the the stuff around the show
was that quote that you said, Jack about Ben Affleck
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saying it's the most important night of his life. That
was the funniest thing to me, because that, to me
is like the equivalent of spring training right now and oh,
he's in the best shape of his life. He put
a lot of work in this winteris are the best
shape of his life, He's going to be ready to go.
It's very similar to that. It's like, this is not
the most important night of your life been up for
(34:09):
you to say, but there's what was the because what if?
What if? Was the article like the the twice married
Ben Affleck referred to this as the most special, the
most important night of my professional life. Everyone, I would
say that was probably when you won the Academy Award
and launched yourself into a yeah, yeah, I don't it's um.
(34:33):
It is just I think one of the we are
going to just be getting these movies now, uh, NonStop.
And it's just the the detail that Nike becomes an
underdog in this telling, like a you know, the billionaire
founder of Nike becomes an underdog, and like that's the
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version we get feels like it's in it's not healthy
for the overall like body politic of very civilization when
you know, I think movies like The Founder and The
Social Network are probably a little bit more important because
they show that like people, like they're behind the scenes
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of these things that are already celebrated as triumphs. Um
are people fucking other people over? Yeah, it's like correctly
showing them as like sociopaths. Right. I feel like that's
probably not going to happen in this one if Nike
signed off on it, right, No, yeah, I think that
absolutely they're not. The inevitable conclusion of like ip Yeah
(35:39):
Films is going to be a movie about the like
founding of the Marvel Cinematic Universe movie franchise or something,
Oh my god about all the Sony Exacts or whatever.
Oh totally dead after Spider Man three and this one
man like the Underdog story. Yeah yeah, God, the movie
poster it just gonna be his like worn like baseball
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cap with like a spotlight on it, you know, and
all the scenes are at Bruce Springs theme concerts with
a bunch of fifty year old exacts making deals with
each other. I mean, it is just that's how people
view the American dream in general. Right. It's even like
if you are a NEPO baby or or you know,
the whole there was that narrative of oh, Kendall Jenner
(36:23):
is the first self made billionaire or whatever the hell
that that whole thing was a couple of years ago,
and it's like, no, no, none of this is like
in a very rare case. You know, it's sort of
the true American dream where people come from nothing and
you know, they start these multi billion dollar companies, but
most of the time there isn't really a true underdog
(36:45):
in the situation. But everybody wants to believe that every
that's the that's the key sort of piece of the
American dream is, oh, I was down on my luck.
I had nothing going on, and generally leaves out the
part where even if you did come from nothing, um,
you stepped on as many heads as possible on the
way to the top. That's the only way to get there.
(37:06):
You know, it always has to be this. Oh, it
was just such a lovable person. You know, my dad
didn't own an Emerald, mind, he just owned several shares
in it. Okay, so let Brad's get this straight. So
I never even saw an Emerald growing up. Yeah, but yeah,
Ceo biography, there's there are all these ways that success
(37:26):
in you know, capitalism and the Western world gets laundered
from being you know what, I think it was. Jody's
uh partner, Malcolm Gladwell wrote wrote, uh uh yeah, um,
but he he did like a deep dive into like
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comparing the CEO biographies and the stories of how people
become the richest humans on the planet with the reality.
And I bring this up all the time, but I
think it's one of the most important and kind of
details about our culture that like gets left out is
like all of them did, like found a thing they
(38:10):
could exploit and exploited it over and over and over again,
Like it was just a very boring transactional predatory thing.
Like all you become unreasonably wealthy by being like a
very successful predator and praying perfect chance. I'm just saying, yeah, um.
(38:32):
But the like so that there is already this whole
body of you know, like bookstores are filled with the
CEO biographies revisionist histories where like everybody told them they
couldn't do it, and they like came in and like
cowboyd their way through the boardroom. And I feel like
we should hope for, you know, because these brand movies
(38:54):
are coming, we should we should hope for versions that
are like The Founder, which somehow guy made and also
told a story that was critical of like the founder
of McDonald's and didn't have to change the name of
the company. So did you see did you read The Founder?
I did not know. Yeah, So I think it's part
(39:15):
of it is like The Founder is written by Ray Croc,
and he kind of says like, yeah, I stole it
from the McDonald brothers, and I did that, Like wow,
that's part of the reason why like it. It's short,
it's only like one hundred and fifty or two hundred pages,
and he is actually very honest. I mean, obviously there's
some revisionist stuff in there, but as far as like
a CEO autobiography or memoir goes, it is found the
(39:39):
honest one. Yeah, exactly where he you know, I think
that's how that one maybe got made was Ray Croc
was pretty honest about like, yeah, the McDonald brothers were
kind of whimps, and so I just like, yeah, I'm
a big psycho. Yeah it rocks. I'm a big psycho.
They were like kind of nice guys, and that was
you can't succeed in business being a nice guy. So
I thought, you know, why don't I a psycho and
take this over and I cut them out of the deal.
(40:01):
No problem, because huge houses and bingo bengo. There you go.
All right, let's take a quick break. We'll come back.
We'll talk to that Fox News story. We'll talk about
the deadly strain of fungus that is about to turn
you on to zombies. We'll be right back, and we're back.
(40:30):
And a Fox News producer named Abbe Grossberg, who worked
with both Maria bartar Romo and Tucker Carlson the you
know what a one to what a combo? Yeah, just
filed two lawsuits against the channel, alleging that their legal
team engaged in wrongful conduct while preparing her for her
(40:52):
deposition in the Dominion case, the case that's being brought
against them for saying that the election was stolen and
that dominion voting machines were faulty or at least like
helping perpetuate that. The allegations are that Fox's lawyers coached
her to avoid mentioning prominent male executives and on air
(41:15):
talent to protect them from any blame while effectively throwing
herself under the bus, and they pressured her to downplay
a text exchange with the senior vice president of Weekend
News in which he instructed her in regards to a
segment with Rudy Giuliani, there will be no fact checking today.
There's just so much good ship coming from the dominion
(41:37):
thing like, yeah, the texts from Tucker Carlson being like
Trump is a disaster, Like we all know this. This
is all such bullshit, like everything that we're having to
repeat on air as such bullshit. And then I love
the ones where they're talking they're like making fun of
their listeners and viewers, where are like, oh, boy, our
viewers for are a bunch of stupid, ignorant hogs that
(41:59):
we hate lot. Yeah, And like, I think the way
around that is to do just what like me and
John do on the podcast is just like say that
explicitly at the top of every show, just to get
it out of the way. Basically we respect that more.
Yeah exactly. Yeah, that's how we start every show. Yeah,
slop in the trough. Yeah, there you go. I was
(42:20):
struck by how much they would couch their decision making
in the context of it's what our viewers expect, right,
And there was that little that was that week after
the election where Fox had you know, called Arizona and
sort of like actually proclaimed that Biden probably are actually one.
And they started losing viewers to Newsmax. And it was
a story that Fox executives told themselves, but you know,
(42:43):
it was like, oh, our listeners are leaving us and
they're going to Newsmax. And the reason they're going to
newsmaxes because Newsmax is telling them lies about how the
selection was stolen. And so we owe it to our viewers.
It's like this really weird logic and like almost a cover,
you know, that they're giving themselves. We owe it to
our viewers to embrace these lies because it's and it's
(43:03):
kind of like, you know, I mean, obviously there's so
many things that are broken about that logic, but it
was just a friend journalism, I think, yeah, yeah, journalist journalism,
you know. But you but that's how you hear politicians
talk too, right. Um, they say like I can do
whatever I want to wash in DC, and I could
stand up on my principles. Then when I go back
to my constituents, all they want to talk about as
(43:24):
Hunter Biden's laptop. So I owe it to my constituents,
you know. And it's just this like really messed up
um inversion of that, like you know, in theory, which
should be a pretty like honorable motivation. It's also wildly
disingenuous of them to claim like Web Newsmax is pushing
it is forcing our hand when they've been like Tucker
Carlson's producers listened to the most right wing like talk
(43:48):
radio just you know, the equivalent of like Coast to
Coast am of like right wing conspiracy theories and Alex
Jones that that was actually very unfair to Coast to
Coast AM. I shouldn't I shouldn't have said that, but
like you know, their level of fact checking, uh, and
they listen to that and let that lead like their editorial,
(44:09):
you know, agenda is just like whatever the craziest shit
is that's resonating with people, and they've been doing that
from Jump. Well, yeah, Tucker Carlson talked about like ratings.
Most of the texts were not about news, they were
about this is killing our ratings. Yeah. Yeah, you'll see
it with like insane like qan on people on Twitter
where they'll say at this like they're so far gone
(44:31):
that they'll be like, oh, news Max and Fox News
have gone woke, like yeah, because because they're not feeding
them the exact conspiracy theories they want to hear. And
it's just like, I mean, you can never please these people.
You're gonna have to just go more and more far right,
which I guess is sort of what they're doing anyway.
But um, it's it's just so funny to see people
completely straight faced thinking that because Newsmax had to like
(44:53):
legally apologize for something that they have now gone woke.
Um it's just like so insane to me to see that. Yeah,
and we just got a quote yesterday from I think
it was Kevin McCarthy that Biden is siding with woke
Wall Street. So that's you know, the other uh fully
woke out institution is Wall Street. Yeah, yeah, the damn
(45:16):
stock markets go and woke? What are they over there?
That's right, you know. I mean one of the things
that just there's so many things in this revelation which
I actually think is like going to really hurt Fox.
I mean I actually think like this is this might
be a turning point momentum, both financially but just in
the public kind of imagination. You overall lawsuit or the
(45:36):
specific revelations in this uh suit that she's bringing. Oh
not this specific soup, but the overall kind of like
that story. Yeah, yeah, the story that's that's coming out
about Fox that you know, I think most people just
kind of knew, have known for a long time, but nevertheless, um,
it's out there and in a way that I think
is actually seeping through. But you know, one of the
(45:58):
things that also just strikes me, and I think about
this too with like Trump World as well, it's like
these people spend so much time like putting out fires,
squabbling with each other, like you know, doing hush payments,
like like coaching people on how to talk to lawyers
and like dealing with it. And I'm just like, when
do you have time to do because I've worked at
(46:18):
a news organization and like it's a lot of work
just to do the thing that goes on TV and
then I do all this other work of like being sketchy.
It's just I just part of me just marvels that
kind of like when do they have the time to
do all this chicanery behind the scenes. So you're coming
away more impressed than anything. I think. I think they're
good producers, think they're at some level. I mean the juggling.
(46:41):
Juggling is impressive. It's true. UM, just some other details
from this report again by a Fox News employee, UM,
who was of course immediately countersued and put on administrative leave.
But as of you know what, while we're talking, she's
still a Fox News employee. UM that Tucker Carlson's offices
(47:02):
featured large pictures of Nancy Pelosi wearing a plunging swimsuit.
The staff casually makes anti semitic and misogynistic comments. Mister
Carlson's staff held a mock debate about whether they would
prefer to have sex with Miss Dixon or her Democratic opponent,
Governor Gretchen Whitmer, and that so like there's this detail
(47:25):
of like her first full day on the job working
for Tucker Carlson discovered that the Manhattan workspace was decorated
with the Pelosi picture. Then the next day, Justin Wells,
mister Carlson's top producer, called her into his office and
asked her whether Miss ms Bardaroma was having a sexual
(47:45):
relationship with the House Republican leader Kevin McCarthy. That was
day two of very healthy. Yeah, it sounds cool as hell.
And look, I don't want to be a pure want
to be a third Fox News. But isn't every swimsuit
of plunging swimsuit anyway, right, plunging into the pool? Yeah,
(48:08):
I have many many a plunge John. They repeat that
line multiple times in that and I know I like
the idea of a plunging swimsuit. Yeah, thats just that
wording got got approved. Um yeah. But then when she
complained about being harassed by male producers, HR told her
that she was not performing her duties. Um so yeah,
(48:29):
it's in some level, it's kind of what you would
expect from Fox News, but it's still horrifying to see
it in detail, like what would it actually looks like
behind the scenes. Nobody likes to see how the sausage
gets made, but you have to be impressed by their
ability to just juggle it all. As Jody Abrigant can
(48:52):
be quoted as saying, I can't wait to see Dominion
in theaters March right, starring Ben Affley. I mean that
there already was that Fox News bombshell. Yeah, all of
the details that I've learned from the various like dominion
reporting and you know, reporting on on the lawsuit is
(49:14):
like that movie must have had to cut so many
details for just being like two over the top, because yeah,
they still made it seem like there wasn't out in
the open, just you know, uh, these sorts of things happening,
all right. So a deadly fungus is supposedly you know,
(49:35):
it is trending on Google yesterday. Transition. I well, I
do just want to let you know that increasing number
of fungus samples resistant to the common treatments for it
are are appearing. I don't know. I tend to think
that when a threat so perfectly matches a pop culture
(49:55):
event that recently was incredibly popular, to be skeptical. Um
so um. I have a less popular opinion that Jeffrey
Dahmer never ate anybody, um, because he was arrested after
Silence of the Lambs came out, and I think he
was just an alcoholic who didn't clean up of his murder.
(50:20):
Love this theory. I love that you voluntarily wedge that
in with no real hook. This is a great event
that you're about here, new deadly fus. Yeah, other news,
Jeffrey Dahmer did he really eat anybody? Did he? I
don't know. It's a theory. These are John level. John
(50:45):
is very segus too. So well, you guys have a
nice little song for reference, Yeah, to reference your amazing seguys. Yeah,
if you just say the segue is good, it's a
good segue. Yeah, it's But anyway, the other details that
leading me to think this might not be something that
everybody needs to worry about. Do check your strawberries though
there was a strawberry recall. We we talked about that
(51:07):
on yesterday's Trending Frozen strawberries are might give you pepe,
So definitely everybody check that out. I think I saw
something about that on John's Gonna Hate This. But one
of my favorite websites it's called I Was Poisoned dot
com and it's I don't know if you guys know
about it. It's like a crowdsourced website where people can
post about if they got food poisoning and where they
(51:29):
think they got it from. Wow, And it's like very
useful on its face, but also sometimes people will it's
not it's not useful adults, it's somewhat useful. Maybe gonna
eat KFC tonight, I should check out I was poison
dot com to see if he's got Yeah, it's it's
worth checking out. But what's really funny about it is
that occasionally people will upload just like the nastiest picture
(51:50):
you've ever seen of like the end result of their
food poisoning, and it's like, we would believe you if
you just said you pute, like we didn't need to
see it. Yeah. Um, So it's a very it's a
very good website. I really like it. But John John
hates it. Someone that did that have any relation to
the sort of help a thing or No, you were
just kind of doing a jack. I think the strawberry
stuff they post stuff about, like, yeah, exactly, So it
(52:14):
is they mixed in real news with just diarrhea and
vomit pictures, which is actually a pretty good metaphor for
our podcast as well. Um, anyways, it's not it's not new.
The fungus isn't new. The numbers are the result of
the pandemic. And you know, with a lot of attention
(52:34):
from the medical community being paid to screening for COVID,
less emphasis was put on screening for this. But it's
a it's a thing that they've known about. We're worried
about this for a long time and have an eye
on so just in case anybody is out there concerned
that the Last of Us is about to happen to them. Uh,
(52:55):
it doesn't. It feels like it's just trying to get
you to click on an article. FYI see the last
of Us Pedro Pascal boy. I hope that happens. Thank you, amen, John,
Pedro Pascal will still exist whether or not there's like
a fungus infection going around the world. You don't know, Okay,
fair enough? Yeah, but will he escort me around while
(53:17):
I act like a little baby? So yeah, that's a
good point right there. Yeah, good point. Yeah, Thank you,
John Stephan. Such a pleasure having you on the show.
Where can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff?
Thank you so much for having us the last As
you referenced off the top of the show. We have
a podcast called The Blocked Party where we bring on
a guest every week to talk about a time they
(53:38):
were blocked on social media. We've had some some great
guests on the show recently and in the past, Tony Hawk,
Nicky Glazer. You talked about Emily Heller before we got
on air. There's some great episodes there. You can check
you out drill on right. You've had him on a
few times show a few times we've had some weird
Twitter guys on the show, and he does look like
(54:00):
a wrinkled Jack Nicholson and for kind of wild. Yeah,
So you can check that out wherever you get your pods.
And I also have a podcast about new metal. You know,
and I know the Daily Zeitgeist fans are huge morn
at Limp Biscuit people. It's a monthly podcast me and
and Brian Quinnby, formerly of street Fight Radio and now
(54:22):
of the podcast Guys. We review a yeah, a classic
new metal album every month. People seem to like it.
That one's fun too. Block Party you can check out
at block Party pod on Twitter and the podcast is
at the pod underscore cast and we spell cast with
a K. Yeah, yeah of course. Yeah. And I have
a Twitch stream we stream nightly. It's with Jesse Farrar
(54:43):
from your Kickstarter sucks if you're familiar with that podcast,
and it's called The Go Off Kings Twitch dot tv
slash Go Off Kings. Nice. And is there a tweet
or work of media, probably social media that you guys
have been enjoying. I've been watching the New Party Down
season and it is fantastic. They did not lose a
(55:04):
single step. Um, and I've been I've been really enjoying it.
I've rewatched the first two seasons to kind of get
ready for this one. Um, and it's it's great, just
a very funny show. Yeah back and I started watching
the New Party Down last night. It's I would actually
argue it's better. I think that's I think they've figured
really good joke tone a little bit better in this
new season. Very good. Um. I was gonna be that
(55:27):
guy and share a tweet that I did myself because
it's from the podcasts Patreon, so it's not actually I
was just sharing a story, but we got basically the
most unhinged Patreon message I've ever received, and I've I've
ever seen. Uh And so I figured your listeners might
like it and I would share it with you. So
(55:48):
someone to keep in mind, someone donated to our patreon,
so they paid us to send this message. Um, I
haven't heard one second of your podcast. It's a great
way to start, greatly to start a message to someone.
I'n't heard one second of your podcast, but I signed
up for your Patreon because I feel like I need
to be involved in a new metal apologist discussion. Let
(56:10):
me be frank. New metal was the most artistically bankrupt, idiotic, cynical,
and probably toxic genre in music history. It really sucks,
and this is we have a four year podcast talking
about this genre. I would like to offer my assistance
and expertise on an episode dedicated to metal bands that
briefly became new metal. I'm thinking Slayer's Stain of Mind,
(56:32):
Anthrax's Inside Out, Machine Heads, the purd Red. I'll even
talk about the talent load and reload, although in retrospect
those seem less like a cynical catch in and more
like James Hetfield's less than stellar ability to copy his
newfound favorite bands. Anyway, while I will never agree with
someone who concludes that Limp Biscuit was ever pretty good,
(56:52):
I really want to have this conversation. Thanks, and so
I replied to that by saying, Unfortunately, we do think
Limp Biscuit is one of the best bands ever, so
I'm not sure that convo will work out. Thank you
for thinking of us, though, and then he replied, um,
do you understand that you are objectively incorrect? Try listening
(57:13):
to Limp Biscuit to find out again. We have covered
five Limp Biscuit album show already and the show is
the literal first episode of the show is about Limp Biscuit.
And then he stopped donating to the show. And when
you stopped donating on Patreon, you have the option to
fill out an exit survey, and his comment on the
exit survey was, I thought these guys wouldn't be morons
(57:35):
who actually liked the two of us discuss. Oh, well,
right there. Maybe he stopped contributing because he thought it
might be a conflict because once you guys hired him
to do the coverage that he was advertising that that
could do. Did you say this person submitted this comment
like anonymously or like could you have even no, I
(57:56):
see who it was? You out their name? They submitted
under a name, and it's a fairly common like it
wouldn't there would be options like it wasn't a sort
of you know, I would imagine there's you're probably the
only joke and like it. You know, it wasn't that
type of It was common first name, common last name.
(58:16):
But there is an like a sort of bit part
actor that has that name, and I looked at their
Twitter and they do kind of tweet like that, So mind,
I'm sort of hoping that that's who it is. And
I'll tell you guys the name off air so you
can also amazing. Oh yeah, Jody, pleasure having you. Thank
(58:38):
you so much for listening today. Where can people find you?
Is there a work of media you've been enjoying? Um, well,
not much has changed since yesterday, so I you know,
I haven't made a new podcast since yesterday, so um,
but people can listen to good Sport wherever you get
your podcast. Als will have this Radiotopia history show this
day in political History. People can check that out. And yes,
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since yesterday, what have I consumes? What if I? Um, actually,
you know what I'll recommend. I'll recommend this app that
I really love and I do a little work with
them Photosclosure. But it's called Hark and it's a like
a podcast discovery app, and it solves something that I
certainly have always felt, which is like feeling very overwhelmed
by podcasts. And what they do is they take little
snippets from a bunch of different shows and make little
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playlists out of them. And so it's a great way
to get a sense of a bunch of different shows,
and then often I find myself saying, oh okay, I
have a sense of that that's not for me, or
oh wow, I can you know, find out find a
new podcast. So it's it's hark uh, it's it's actually
great and um they're nice people and I'm I'm into
what they're up to amazing. Don't use that app to
(59:43):
find podcasts besides this one. This is the only thing.
It's just a direct link. You open the app, it
just goes daily. I feel like I do. I do
really like Locked Party. I highly recommend that. I also
just James Urbaniac tweeted that Ron de Santis is the
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same age as Jason biggs um and I'm having a
hard time with that. But I do love a good
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super producer Justin is out, Um, super producer Brian, is
there a song that you think our listeners might enjoy? Yeah? Yeah,
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So this song is by Elle Michelle's Affair featuring Bobby Arosa.
It's called Stack a Deck and it's just what I've
been hooked on for the last like two three days.
It's kind of like m like a funky ballad. I guess.
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Definitely a love song and a lot of card game metaphors. Hey,
we were talking about card games earlier, right, so yeah,
is it? Is it specifically Marvel snap metaphors? Well, you'll
just have to listen to finals. Yeah, I guess you will,
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Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season two eighty, episode
three of Thy Stay production of by Heart Radio. This
is a podcast where we take a deep dive into
American share consciousness. And it's Wednesday, March twenty second, twenty
twenty three as of this recording. No arrests yet. I
(00:20):
don't think, right, Jody, you got your eyes on the
news ticker, and I could have told you that. I
may have told you that yesterday. Yeah, I mean, yeah, no,
I don't know. He's usually such a reliable source, yea. Anyways,
my name's Jack O'Brien aka plump Pers. I got plumpers,
milky hit white plumpers, plumper plumpers. I got plumpers, milky
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thick white plumpers. That is supposed to be thunder by
Imagine Dragons. I did my best. That is courtesy a
fighter of the night man on the discord. That is
an evil song man thunder by Imagine Dragons because it
is very catchy to the five and six year old mind,
(01:07):
and it is just the bitchiest. He's just like, everybody
laughed at me, but now you'll all be crying in
the nosebleeds at my concert because I am imagine dragons. Anyways,
I'm thrilled to be joined by today's special guest co host.
You know him from many a podcast his new podcast
(01:28):
with Ted and Pushkin as Good Sport. It's Jody Aberga.
Thanks for having me back. What percentage of your day
is spent? Comamp with the little Songs? For the beginning
of this show, we have a we have a thriving
discord and they feed him and I scroll through and anything. Yeah,
(01:50):
I don't know, and I will find out after we
hit record, whether I know how to sing that song,
whether it's within my vocal range. Um, not a ton
of prepperation, but I do appreciate it, and there's some
real geniuses in the discord. We also bring up a
question of who gets to refer to themselves as having
a quote vocal range. That's right. If you can hit
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one note, that's a range, right, that's range. Uh well, Jody.
We're thrilled to be joined by two very funny comedians
who together host the podcast Blocked Party, which you're not
going to believe. This also very funny. Please welcome to
the show, John Cullin and Stephan he Hey, guys, thanko,
(02:37):
thanks for having us On. Yeah, thank you, thanks for
doing the show. Guys, your show is very funny. You're
recently talking about an issue that I've been noticing more
and more recently, um, which is, you know, you talk
a lot about social media and the ways in which
social media is getting worse. Um where the way is
(02:58):
Google is getting worse. I was told that things were
going to get better, and it does not seem to
be the case with Google is pretty much unusable as
of late. Google is all like if you search for anything,
it's like three ads and then fifty things created by
like an ai bought and it's just like impossible to
(03:20):
use now. But even like Twitter, not even Twitter, especially
Twitter Twitter, Yeah, but we're owned by Elon must Yeah,
even managed to get fucked up. I don't know if
you noticed today, but there's a thing going on where
you'll click on a tweet and then it'll say it's
been deleted, but it hasn't been deleted. So that's like
a new thing. Yeah, it is sort of fun that
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it is like getting broken in new and exciting ways
every single day. So I do sort of appreciate that.
For the longest time, when Twitter was functional and kind
of a big part of my life. I kind of
would tell myself, Actually, the best version of Twitter would
be one in which I write a tweet but no
one sees it right, just getting out of my system,
(04:04):
but then not have to deal with any of the
fall back. And now I think I actually am living
that out and I don't live in the dream. I
don't like it. No, I don't like it. Elon must
made that possible for you. Man, I don't know what
everybody is complaining about. Well, this was my theory, like
from day one of Donald Trump when he was that
his his team should have created a basically a fake
Twitter for him and just let him like rage type
(04:25):
into a phone and tell him that it was like
doing great, um, but never actually haven't brought into the
well that's smart. It's like because I remember hearing a
new story a while back, where I think it was
in Germany. Outside like a senior center, they put like
a fake bus stop for the for the Alzheimer's patients,
so they think they're waiting for the bus. Would be
the same sort of idea. Basically, I think they should have.
(04:46):
I think they should have got Trump on the Dawn
Cherry plan, which if you're not a Canadian. We are,
We're both Canadians. You're not a Canadian sports watcher, Dawn
Cherry is sort of um. He was like a hockey
prognosticator for a long time, and they let him be
on the air well into his senile years. And then
when they first gave him Twitter, the rumor was that
(05:08):
he couldn't use Twitter, he couldn't figure it out. He
was in his seventies, and the rumor was that he
would call a number and the number would go to
an interns voicemail and he would tell the intern what
he wanted the intern to tweet, and then the intern
would tweet it in all caps. Because Don Cherry's whole
thing was yelling, you know, kind of a Stephen A.
Smith type deal. And yeah, they could have got Trump
(05:31):
on that plan. They should have had. It should have
been a step between him and tweeting. Just call a voicemail.
They can edit out the crazy stuff and you know,
and then deliver it to the masses. I think that
was the method for a while there, minus the editing
out of the crazy stuff. Yeah, I think he I
don't think he's ever typed anything with his tiny fingers before.
(05:52):
I think it's all you know him dictating two various people. Listen,
people who are not familiar with Don Cherry, we'll be
shocked to hear from John's description of him that he
ended up getting canceled and said some pretty awful things air. Yeah,
terrible thing, Well he said, he said terrible things for
like years, right, and it really just took a while
(06:13):
until he said one thing in particular that was like
quite heinous. Um. But he was canceled. Culture to catch up. Yeah,
he was famous for and I guess he's still alive. Um.
But uh, and his I mean, I don't want to,
like say, go listen to his podcast, but his podcast
is truly insane. Um. The intro music, how would you
describe it, John, Um, Well, he used to put out
(06:36):
these videos every year called rockham sock'em which was a
rock'em sock 'em Hockey, which was a compilation of hockey
hits and goals and saves from the previous year, narrated
by Dawn Cherry and often, for some reason, all of
the clips and these videos were set to bad techno
sounding music, nineties techno, nineties techno. And so that is
(06:59):
the opening of his podcast and It starts with him
staying his famous phrase, all right, let's go, and then
the techno music kicks in. So yeah, I would describe
it as like early nineteen ninety two bad techno music
with Don Cherry soundclips over and he's like ninety years
old now too, so it like fits even less D
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did Don Cherry. Is he the origin of the reason
why everyone well, well why and also why everyone says
let's go all the time. Yeah, I'm fascinated with trying
to track down how let's go became the go to
catch crass. That's an interesting theory because he was possible. Yeah,
(07:41):
he was saying it like I remember growing up watching
him on Hockey nine Canada every Saturday, and he would
say it a lot. And that was in like the
mid nineties, late nineties, so oh yeah, even earlier, maybe
he would do the gun. He would do a gun
like it would be like and do a finger gun
to the camera, So that could be something worth dive into.
F I'm planning to the extended go the let's go
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like it was kind of let's go, Yeah, let's go.
And then Tom Brady you know, like like it's like jazz,
you know, Uh, Tom Brady is the Coltrane to Don
Cherry's Davis, you know, and he comes along and he
really pushes things along and and and and reappropriates let's
go and then you know. But yeah, I mean people
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have been saying let's go in sports contexts for for
a long time, right, it's just the saying it constantly,
And now it's now it's jumped out of sports, right
and it's just basically a it's I mean, it is
the default expression of enthusiasm in any context now, and
it's kind of bizarre to me. I'll say when I'm
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when I'm playing soccer in real life, or when I'm
playing like FIFA or like John and I play NHL
a lot, and like it's very common for us to
say that after we score a goal or something. So
and I'm like, thirty four, Like, it's not I don't
it's not okay. Yeah, No, I think I think it's fine.
It's acceptable. We don't have to hate every new trend
that comes along. I think that's a fine one. That
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doesn't bother me. I think there's a lot of performative
like this new thing that people everybody's doing all of
a sudden, it's like, that's that's a fine one for me.
I'm doing it because of Don Cherry to be clear, Yes, okay,
it is a homage. Yeah, all right, John Stephan, We're
going to get to know you a little bit better
in a moment. First, we're gonna tell our listeners a
couple of the things we may talk about. There is
(09:32):
a new story about a deadly fungus that I am
here to tell you, I don't think if I had
to guess, and I am not part of the CDC's
Mycotic Diseases branch um, but the CDC's Micotic Diseases branches
on their bullshit again, They're they're saying this is something
we need to be worried about. If I had to guess,
(09:53):
I think this is maybe a reaction to the last
of us um and scientists getting excited when people are
listening to them so famous lat Like I would love
to be the guy who's like, don't listen to this,
like the day before the Apocalypse. But we'll talk about that.
We'll talk about maybe this Fox News producer's lawsuit against
(10:16):
Fox News. The reviews have started trickling in for Ben
afflex Air, and they are incredibly positive, So we'll talk
about the same with the flame and hot Cheeto's origin story.
So we're just this has been a trend on the
daily zygeist of late, but this new wave of brand
(10:38):
related movies and the idea that brands are to modern
American culture what royalty was to Shakespearean culture and like that,
this is just what our movies are going to be
about from now on. So we'll talk about all of
that plenty more. But first, John Stephen, what is something
from your searchest three that is reeling about you? John?
(11:02):
You want to kick us off? Sure? I look, you
know you said you you Jack. You've been listening to
a little bit of block Party the last few days.
And while look, I'm a pretty white guy and just
searched I think probably the most white guy thing I've
ever searched. This happened last week and Stephan was actually
(11:24):
present for this, but I had to Google search how
to get kombucha out of a laptop. We were just
about to record an episode of block Party and I
spilled about half a can of kombucha on my MacBook
Air keyboard and how I knew it was a Mac? Yeah? Yeah, exactly, Yeah, No,
(11:45):
quick about it kimbucha has never been spilled on That
would have actually been a first in history. You can't
google it. There's no results if you look up kombucha
PC spill um. But yeah, so I did spill a
kombucha on my MacBook and I was, yeah, googling how
to take care of that, And turns out I took
(12:06):
it into the Apple Store and blockily didn't hit the board.
So I only look at that. I only owe them
four hundred and eighty dollars for a dome. It's bad. Well,
the guy the genius bar would have been like, what
it's like the most common This happens like ten times
a day. Yeah, so let me ask kombucha. He just
looks you up and down, like, let me guess, um,
(12:29):
the I feel like there's a big portion of LA's population.
That would have been like, that's actually good for your
computer and you actually don't need to take it in.
You should just let it rock a little bit. It's
gonna grows some healthy biomes in there. Yeah, how about you,
Steth And what's something from your search history? Well this,
(12:49):
so this is something. John's gonna hear this and be
like of course, and he's gonna kind of be mad
at me. I think too. But I'm a big fan
of like uh digital like card games, so like Hearthstone,
I got like way too into and still kind of am.
And this is a reason development for me, Like reason
is in like the past, like four or five days.
But I've started playing a game called Marvel Snap, and
(13:11):
so my search term is Marvel Snap beginner decks. And
have any of you played the game Marvel Snap? I'm
assuming no. I mean I'll ask John. I know what
the answer is, John, have you played Marvel A Life? Okay, Well,
I don't know. The thing is, I don't like this
has taken over my life. It's a very fast paced,
(13:32):
very addictive digital card game. You can play on your
phone or on your computer, and the games are like
two to three minutes long, so you can play like,
you know, one to four of them on the toilet,
depending on kind of what's going on there. And I'm
I'm just like hooked to the point where it's like, oh,
this is like going to be dangerous for me, Like
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there's no doubt in my mind. It's it's incredibly addictive
and you collect a Marvel like an individual card and
then like that is yours. Like I feel like this
is backing up into NFTs somehow, just in my brain.
I feel like it just barely dodged being connected to NFTs.
But yeah, and the thing is, like, I'm not even
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like a Marvel guy necessarily, Like I've stopped watching the
Marvel movies and like I so it's not that, it's
just that the gameplay itself is like so perfectly and
like tightly designed to the point where I think John
would actually like it, because John's a big board game
guy and like strategy games and things of that nature.
So I think there's a chance he would like it.
But it's just like such a hard sell to get
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John past the Marvel stuff. I think, what are you
talking about? Man? I love what Avengers s dot T
dot A dot t dot I dot oh dot M
I saw that the thing that's coming out. I don't know.
I don't want movies, but I Avengers station. Yeah, but
it's a I can't read what what did you just spell? Station? Yeah? Station,
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don't add for it. I think it's I don't know
what stations. I think that's a local thing in Vancouver
actually have only Oh, you're right, Yeah, it's a completely
immersive and educational experience that brings visitors into the world
of the Avengers. Not educational in there. They probably got
like a grant for funding because they have to work
(15:20):
about Marvel. That's learned about the entire MC. But what
does station stand for st? That's how much scientific training
and tactical intelligence operative network. Okay, this is where the
minds that used to work for the CIA have gone to.
(15:41):
Right for the Marvel Cinematic u direction, Like everybody's talking
about STEM, we need we need our own, right, what's
the acronic for us? Seven? Where did where did the
Marvel Cinematic Universe lose you? Because I have a pretty
specific answer that I feel like it was. Um, was
it Guardens, the Galaxy two? I think No. I was
(16:02):
kind of on and off. But the last one I
saw in theaters because it was kind of like, well,
there's nothing to do this weekend, let's just go see
a movie was the last Thor movie. And it was
to the point where we almost like walked out of
it because we were it was just not maybe it
just not for us. I mean it's it's not aimed
at us, maybe necessarily, but it just like really pissed
(16:23):
me off. I guess like everything about it that was
loving thunder. Yes, yeah, um, I would imagine dragons. I
thought I thought Christian Bale was good, but see I
do have range, Jody, But Jack, where where did it lose? You? Like?
Right around the same time with watching the Doctor Strange
(16:46):
one from Sam Ramie, Like I was like, oh, this
could be cool. It was like and it had like
cool moments in it, but it just I feel like
every time I watched one of them, it inevitably gravitates
back towards a lightning fight like Cgne like if I
(17:08):
I think they just need to set an internal rule
for themselves that if a giant like purple lightning portal
opens in the sky, we have made a mistake and
need to like, you know, go back and rejigger things
because yeah, yeah, it's the beam stuff is just like
it's everyone has the same power and then everyone gets
hit by the beam and they're just like kind of
(17:30):
they're just like singed a little bit. They're like fine,
you know, it's like daffy duck logic. Yeah. Um so yeah,
I'm not I don't like Marvel necessarily, but the game
itself is like it's incredible, Like within like a day,
I was like, oh, this is like taking over my
entire life. And yes, all right, well let's take a
quick break. We'll come back. We'll do some overrated, underrated
(17:52):
and maybe get to some news. We'll be right back
and we're back, and Stephane, let's stick with you. What
is something you think is overrated? This is something that
I discovered last year, but I would say kind of
(18:13):
just like regular like soft bath mats are now those
are overrated to me now, um, because I was at
an Airbnb. I went to Twitch Con in San Diego
last year, and at the Airbnb, they had these bath
mats that are like like hard almost like almost like
hard like the bamboo ones. No, it was almost like
hard like clay or like stone kind of um, and
(18:37):
they were like incredible. It was like, I can't go back.
John shaking his head. I mean, well I was. I
was at like a normal Airbnb and they just had
these these We saw the math mats and and we're
like this is interesting. And then there's a stone that
absorbs water. I'm I, yeah, I've heard about this. Yeah,
(18:58):
so I I guess going like the regular bathmat to
me is now overrated because of how much I like
this stone bath mat. Did you have one? Yeah? Of course,
Oh my god, you came home from twitch Con and
you bought a stone bath mat. Yeah, that's like a
normal thing to do. How much was it? Well, look,
(19:19):
let's move on to the next question. Well, my question
on that is like shipping what a what a shipping
like that like getting a stone delivered to your house.
It would be lighter than pet And I guess, like
my worry was like if you step on it in
like the wrong way, will it like crack because it
does sort of feel that way, but it is actually
pretty solid. It seems like um. But it was shipped
(19:40):
in like a huge box with like tons of like
extra packaging and stuff, right like the box they put
the Arc of the Covenant in at the end of
Indiana Jones just arrives on your front front. The box
was like legitimately the size of like if you bought
like a huge TV. And then the bath mat is
just like normal bath mat size. So it's like very strange, um,
(20:01):
but it's it's very nice. It's just nice to to
step on it. It absorbs the water by this ninety
dollar one. No, it was less than that, but not
much by the tone of your voice. Okay, just well,
and I was also in that's in Canadian dollars, so
like that's that's like that's like nothing, right, So yeah, anyway,
moving on, how about you John with something you think
(20:25):
is overrated. So there's been this recent trend in my
internet algorithm where I've really cornered the market on Instagram
and Facebook when I check it occasionally, where I'm now
almost exclusively getting played like inspiring sports videos like it'll
just oh, Josh Allen, you know, threw a ball around
(20:47):
with this kid who or you know who's sick or whatever.
And I love now. I'm a huge sucker for all
that kind of stuff. Athletes being nice to kids. Love it.
The only problem is I'm now sucked into this sports
video vortex where Instagram also thinks I want to see
videos of what teams are playing on the JumboTron during
(21:10):
a game. Um, and I've got I've got news for you.
Not interested? Um, if I'm not at the game, I
don't care who in your crowd looks like the lion
from Madagascar. I don't care that you oh we lit
up the visiting team with this little insult or with it. Wow,
I think it's way over rated. I don't need to
(21:31):
see a video of the JumboTron at a sports game, no,
thank you. Yeah, that is a really not a transferable
like Uniti team. And I've written for the JumboTron, Like
I I worked for the Vancouver Canucks for a while
writing wows for the JumboTron, which is a very Canadian thing.
(21:52):
I think, um, and wait, wait you wrote you wrote jokes?
Are you like we're coming routs? Yeah? Like more jokes.
So I auditioned to be the Canucks in arena host
at different times and I was rejected both times, which,
if you know about the state of the Canucks franchise
right now, probably a blessing. I think I dodged a bullet.
But yeah, they knew I was a comedian, so they
(22:15):
wanted to start doing some more funny like in house stuff.
And one of the main things they were doing, which
you will see on your Instagram algorithm if these sports
JumboTron video shows up, is one thing they'll do is
they'll try and catch an opposing fan looking at their
phone and then they will imagine, like there's a text
conversation happening to them and another, so it'll be like, oh,
(22:38):
here's a Flames fan. Let's imagine what the two Flames
fans are texting each other. And I would write the
like I would write the jokes for the for the
text stuff. So that was kind of like the main
thing they had me do and it was actually pretty good.
That's awesome. I would enjoy the hell out of that
in arena in arena, probably not on Instagram, yeah, but exactly. Yeah.
(23:02):
I will say, like the the in arena stuff you
obviously have to be there for. But the stuff I
do like is, um, who's the Chicago Bulls mascot, Benny
the Bully. I will never get tired of seeing Benny
the Bull just dump uh, like a huge plastic bag
full of popcorn on someone like that. That is funny
every single time to me. But that is humiliating someone
(23:22):
I'm on board of course, absolutely. That goes without saying. Yeah,
but I don't need the kiss caam No, I don't know.
I think some of those are funny, and I mean
they're clearly staged, but some of those, some of those
are pretty good. Or that the dance offs you know
with the units here we have an insider. Here are
some of the kisscams staged? Oh almost everything, yeah staged? Yeah,
(23:42):
I mean, no, no question me. I think that they
are consistently finding couples where the woman refuses to kiss
the guy and gets super upset and then dumps her
soda on his head and storms out of the arena.
You think that's happening like like a few times a
week around in arenas around the country. I mean, catching
very boring kisscams, I guess because I've never seen that happen.
The new bit they they're doing a lot is like
(24:03):
they'll do the they'll show a kiss cam and then
a woman and a man will start kissing, and then
another man shows up, Yeah, and they sort of like, oh, like, oh,
he doesn't Scotti doesn't know, you know, what is he doing?
Like he's like cheering so hard he doesn't notice his
wife is like kissing the guy on the other side
(24:24):
or something. Is that the fre he's coming back from
the bathroom or so. Yeah, the joke will usually be
that she is kissing like so, let's say it's at
that Canucks game kissing a guy in a Canucks Nucks
Jersey and then her husband by friend or husband will
come backward flames Jersey. Yeah, and this is good stuff.
(24:47):
Elaborate humiliations opposing team. I love it's funny. Those are real.
I've got a Marvel snap. What is uh? What of
the thing? Is underrated? John? Yeah? Sure, underrated. I'm sticking
sort of sports theme algorithmically themed skate videos. I'm not
(25:08):
a I'm not a skateboarder. I used to a skateboard
to get around a little bit, but not a huge skateboarder.
But god, I love a good skate video. Nothing better.
Just pausing on Instagram. Wow, this is a great skate video.
I love it. It's harmless most of the time, just
a great way to pass the time. You're a big
Tony Hawk pro skater player, all yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
(25:28):
But that doesn't mean anything. I'm just saying, I you know,
I love I just love to watch a good skate video.
I think they're underrated. I think not enough people appreciate
how hard skateboarding is and how impressive a lot of
these videos are. In my opinion, that video game did
ruin skate videos for me for a little bit, because
I was like this, these people aren't shit compared to
(25:49):
what I can do. And on n sixty four, I
haven't played video games since then sixty four, but have
a use, Steph, And what's something you think is underrated?
I would say goldfish crackers as like a snack for adults, Yeah,
because I think people think of goldfish crackers and they think, oh,
that's that's like a that's like a child snack, that's
for children, and you know what they would be right However, Uh,
(26:14):
they're just a very nice snack to have, although I
do feel like because I always get like the huge
carton of them, and you never feel worse than when
you were like elbow deep inside the carton trying to
get the goldfish at the bottom of it. I guess
you can pour it out into a bulb. I don't
do that. I'm just reaching in um. But just just
the regular flavored, not the because there's the goldfish ones
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where there's like no flavor to it, right, just the
saltine flavor. Almost. Yeah. I don't know if you've ever
like purchased original Yeah, I think those are called original, right?
They blue box white crackers, Yes, just a disaster. They're
more like soup crackers. I guess right, like you put
them in soup. But to me, original goldfish are like
the orange ones and like the orange total right, and
(26:58):
they're fantastic as a sack. I think I would say underrated.
I feel like people don't talk about them when they're
talking about like best snacks. So yeah, goldfish crackers for me, Yeah,
they're actually the origin story of goldfish crackers is in
development Warner Brothers, and I think it's gonna be great. Actually,
I mean we might as well just like get right
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into Ben Affleck's Air because it premiered at south By
on Saturday. Ben Affleck called the premier the most important
night of my professional life. And the reviews are in.
They're literally all positive, like it's one hundred percent. There's
only nine reviews in I guess, but not the first
(27:41):
nine that came in. It's one hundred percent on Rotten Tomatoes.
And I just want to like read a description of
like from one of these reviews. Afflex successfully captures nikes
heartwarming and hilarious marketing journey while paying respectful homage to
all involved. Air is a tremendous underdog story filled with
(28:02):
lovable characters. Um, it's just like there's something so strange
to me about all of this, and yet like it
makes perfect sense. But it's also like to be like
the underdog journey of Nike's marketing decision to make Air
Jordan shoes. Well, it's one of those movie concepts that
(28:23):
feels like, oh, this is like a funnier die fake
trailer from like twenty fourteen. Yeah, but it's real, and
like it sort of reminds me because I didn't. I'm
not surprised it's getting good reviews because it has a
really good cast and I'm sure I will watch this
movie eventually. I don't think I'm going into theaters to
see it. But um, there was that McDonald's movie, The Founder, Yeah,
and that was a great movie, right, and I and
(28:45):
I think going into it, I was like, how is
how is this going to be good? And it's because
they made The Founder McDonald's into like a huge dick, yeah,
just a monster yeah, And so it was that was
I really enjoy that movie. So if this is I
guess this won't be the same sort of style of
movie necessarily. But if the McDonald's movie can be good,
then I don't see why Air can't be good either.
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It will not be the same style. It turns out
it's like it is the It turns Phil Knight and
Sonny Vaccaro like into these underdogs who like coming up
with a marketing concept around the air Jordan's shoe, which
I totally fell for. I am gonna see this movie.
I am like, I'm pretty sure I'm going to enjoy it.
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But it's you know, this is an important myth for
my life, like my childhood. I still wear Jordan's I
Love I Love Air Jordan's. This completely captured me so
like seeing what happened behind the scenes, but it's also
upsetting to me that this is this is what we've got.
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It totally makes sense. These are the most powerful and
influential forces in our civilization. They of course we would
want to watch movies about them. But it's just weird.
How does it? How does it make you feel that
like the kind of big first swing at a Jordan movie? Um,
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not a documentary obviously, but the movie is like this
weird kind of sideways angle in at it. Would you
Jo of sorts? No? No, I would not, because I
don't like I think that. My first question was, like, wait,
who did they get to play Michael Jordan and they
completely like cut around him, and uh, like I don't
(30:35):
I don't know like about the ethics of this and
like it's but it it seems like the thesis of
the movie is like he's just this sort of like
god like entity and they're trying to like move around
him and harness. But yeah, like that that is one
of the things. One of the not uniformly positive things
(30:57):
somebody said was just like George gets just one word
to say, and when he's present, the film shoots and
cuts around him. It's unintentionally hilarious when in one crucial
boardroom scene, he hastily turns his head away to study
something on a wall before you can catch a proper
glimpse of which is its like like an Austin Powers opening.
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They have like, you know, a tray of flowers following
his face around. But that I think that's the only
way to tell this story until like, you know, twenty
thirty years from now, when like nobody remembers what it
was like to actually watch Michael Jordan. Yeah, I mean
(31:39):
it is a little strange or I don't know what
it is. It's it's something that you know, it's like
here's a story about a black athlete, one of the
first like people to really like gain some agency and
build some real capital. And the story they tell about
that is about all the like schlubby white executives surrounding him,
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heroes Jody yea heroes man. But you know, I was
just scanning headlines about this, and it's like one after another,
the headlines are all like Ben Affleck talks about why
Michael Jordan isn't in the movie, like, here's why Michael
Jordan isn't. I mean, it's just going to be the
question around this movie, and Ben Affleck's I think very
carefully crafted response to it is like Jordan is so recognizable,
(32:23):
so steeped in the culture that like to put him
in in any way. People know who he is and
they would like ring hollow or whatever, which, you know,
I don't know. I think there's probably other reasons why
Michael Jordan isn't portrayed in the movie necessarily, though I
guess he was involved behind the scenes a little bit
and sort of at least given the blessing to the
to the film. I would be interested to know if
(32:45):
if John, because John famously does not watch movies yea,
so he I think he watches like one or two
movies a year. Maybe will this be on the list, John, Oh,
I'm going to the theater baby more. I love the
Underdog Story and Shoe Doog of course my favorite book
of all time, and I'm really looking forward to digging in. No,
(33:06):
I I'm sure. Maybe why shouldn't say I'm sure I'll
see it because that's never does seem like the type
of movie you would see though, Like I mean, our
block party listeners understand that John sees like no movies,
but when he does see a movie, it's one that
you would like, never expect. So I think a couple
of months ago we were talking about movies you had seen,
and you had almost seen Up in the Air. Yeah,
I don't know. I mean, maybe I'll see It's it's
(33:27):
very anything with air in the type. Yeah. Air is
a big Ye, the air up there are is a
big for me. Do love that pawn air I also love.
And the one thing I thought stuck out when you know,
looking at some of the the stuff around the show
was that quote that you said, Jack about Ben Affleck
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saying it's the most important night of his life. That
was the funniest thing to me, because that, to me
is like the equivalent of spring training right now and oh,
he's in the best shape of his life. He put
a lot of work in this winteris are the best
shape of his life, He's going to be ready to go.
It's very similar to that. It's like, this is not
the most important night of your life been up for
(34:09):
you to say, but there's what was the because what if?
What if? Was the article like the the twice married
Ben Affleck referred to this as the most special, the
most important night of my professional life. Everyone, I would
say that was probably when you won the Academy Award
and launched yourself into a yeah, yeah, I don't it's um.
(34:33):
It is just I think one of the we are
going to just be getting these movies now, uh, NonStop.
And it's just the the detail that Nike becomes an
underdog in this telling, like a you know, the billionaire
founder of Nike becomes an underdog, and like that's the
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version we get feels like it's in it's not healthy
for the overall like body politic of very civilization when
you know, I think movies like The Founder and The
Social Network are probably a little bit more important because
they show that like people, like they're behind the scenes
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of these things that are already celebrated as triumphs. Um
are people fucking other people over? Yeah, it's like correctly
showing them as like sociopaths. Right. I feel like that's
probably not going to happen in this one if Nike
signed off on it, right, No, yeah, I think that
absolutely they're not. The inevitable conclusion of like ip Yeah
(35:39):
Films is going to be a movie about the like
founding of the Marvel Cinematic Universe movie franchise or something,
Oh my god about all the Sony Exacts or whatever.
Oh totally dead after Spider Man three and this one
man like the Underdog story. Yeah yeah, God, the movie
poster it just gonna be his like worn like baseball
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cap with like a spotlight on it, you know, and
all the scenes are at Bruce Springs theme concerts with
a bunch of fifty year old exacts making deals with
each other. I mean, it is just that's how people
view the American dream in general. Right. It's even like
if you are a NEPO baby or or you know,
the whole there was that narrative of oh, Kendall Jenner
(36:23):
is the first self made billionaire or whatever the hell
that that whole thing was a couple of years ago,
and it's like, no, no, none of this is like
in a very rare case. You know, it's sort of
the true American dream where people come from nothing and
you know, they start these multi billion dollar companies, but
most of the time there isn't really a true underdog
(36:45):
in the situation. But everybody wants to believe that every
that's the that's the key sort of piece of the
American dream is, oh, I was down on my luck.
I had nothing going on, and generally leaves out the
part where even if you did come from nothing, um,
you stepped on as many heads as possible on the
way to the top. That's the only way to get there.
(37:06):
You know, it always has to be this. Oh, it
was just such a lovable person. You know, my dad
didn't own an Emerald, mind, he just owned several shares
in it. Okay, so let Brad's get this straight. So
I never even saw an Emerald growing up. Yeah, but yeah,
Ceo biography, there's there are all these ways that success
(37:26):
in you know, capitalism and the Western world gets laundered
from being you know what, I think it was. Jody's
uh partner, Malcolm Gladwell wrote wrote, uh uh yeah, um,
but he he did like a deep dive into like
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comparing the CEO biographies and the stories of how people
become the richest humans on the planet with the reality.
And I bring this up all the time, but I
think it's one of the most important and kind of
details about our culture that like gets left out is
like all of them did, like found a thing they
(38:10):
could exploit and exploited it over and over and over again,
Like it was just a very boring transactional predatory thing.
Like all you become unreasonably wealthy by being like a
very successful predator and praying perfect chance. I'm just saying, yeah, um.
(38:32):
But the like so that there is already this whole
body of you know, like bookstores are filled with the
CEO biographies revisionist histories where like everybody told them they
couldn't do it, and they like came in and like
cowboyd their way through the boardroom. And I feel like
we should hope for, you know, because these brand movies
(38:54):
are coming, we should we should hope for versions that
are like The Founder, which somehow guy made and also
told a story that was critical of like the founder
of McDonald's and didn't have to change the name of
the company. So did you see did you read The Founder?
I did not know. Yeah, So I think it's part
(39:15):
of it is like The Founder is written by Ray Croc,
and he kind of says like, yeah, I stole it
from the McDonald brothers, and I did that, Like wow,
that's part of the reason why like it. It's short,
it's only like one hundred and fifty or two hundred pages,
and he is actually very honest. I mean, obviously there's
some revisionist stuff in there, but as far as like
a CEO autobiography or memoir goes, it is found the
(39:39):
honest one. Yeah, exactly where he you know, I think
that's how that one maybe got made was Ray Croc
was pretty honest about like, yeah, the McDonald brothers were
kind of whimps, and so I just like, yeah, I'm
a big psycho. Yeah it rocks. I'm a big psycho.
They were like kind of nice guys, and that was
you can't succeed in business being a nice guy. So
I thought, you know, why don't I a psycho and
take this over and I cut them out of the deal.
(40:01):
No problem, because huge houses and bingo bengo. There you go.
All right, let's take a quick break. We'll come back.
We'll talk to that Fox News story. We'll talk about
the deadly strain of fungus that is about to turn
you on to zombies. We'll be right back, and we're back.
(40:30):
And a Fox News producer named Abbe Grossberg, who worked
with both Maria bartar Romo and Tucker Carlson the you
know what a one to what a combo? Yeah, just
filed two lawsuits against the channel, alleging that their legal
team engaged in wrongful conduct while preparing her for her
(40:52):
deposition in the Dominion case, the case that's being brought
against them for saying that the election was stolen and
that dominion voting machines were faulty or at least like
helping perpetuate that. The allegations are that Fox's lawyers coached
her to avoid mentioning prominent male executives and on air
(41:15):
talent to protect them from any blame while effectively throwing
herself under the bus, and they pressured her to downplay
a text exchange with the senior vice president of Weekend
News in which he instructed her in regards to a
segment with Rudy Giuliani, there will be no fact checking today.
There's just so much good ship coming from the dominion
(41:37):
thing like, yeah, the texts from Tucker Carlson being like
Trump is a disaster, Like we all know this. This
is all such bullshit, like everything that we're having to
repeat on air as such bullshit. And then I love
the ones where they're talking they're like making fun of
their listeners and viewers, where are like, oh, boy, our
viewers for are a bunch of stupid, ignorant hogs that
(41:59):
we hate lot. Yeah, And like, I think the way
around that is to do just what like me and
John do on the podcast is just like say that
explicitly at the top of every show, just to get
it out of the way. Basically we respect that more.
Yeah exactly. Yeah, that's how we start every show. Yeah,
slop in the trough. Yeah, there you go. I was
(42:20):
struck by how much they would couch their decision making
in the context of it's what our viewers expect, right,
And there was that little that was that week after
the election where Fox had you know, called Arizona and
sort of like actually proclaimed that Biden probably are actually one.
And they started losing viewers to Newsmax. And it was
a story that Fox executives told themselves, but you know,
(42:43):
it was like, oh, our listeners are leaving us and
they're going to Newsmax. And the reason they're going to
newsmaxes because Newsmax is telling them lies about how the
selection was stolen. And so we owe it to our viewers.
It's like this really weird logic and like almost a cover,
you know, that they're giving themselves. We owe it to
our viewers to embrace these lies because it's and it's
(43:03):
kind of like, you know, I mean, obviously there's so
many things that are broken about that logic, but it
was just a friend journalism, I think, yeah, yeah, journalist journalism,
you know. But you but that's how you hear politicians
talk too, right. Um, they say like I can do
whatever I want to wash in DC, and I could
stand up on my principles. Then when I go back
to my constituents, all they want to talk about as
(43:24):
Hunter Biden's laptop. So I owe it to my constituents,
you know. And it's just this like really messed up
um inversion of that, like you know, in theory, which
should be a pretty like honorable motivation. It's also wildly
disingenuous of them to claim like Web Newsmax is pushing
it is forcing our hand when they've been like Tucker
Carlson's producers listened to the most right wing like talk
(43:48):
radio just you know, the equivalent of like Coast to
Coast am of like right wing conspiracy theories and Alex
Jones that that was actually very unfair to Coast to
Coast AM. I shouldn't I shouldn't have said that, but
like you know, their level of fact checking, uh, and
they listen to that and let that lead like their editorial,
(44:09):
you know, agenda is just like whatever the craziest shit
is that's resonating with people, and they've been doing that
from Jump. Well, yeah, Tucker Carlson talked about like ratings.
Most of the texts were not about news, they were
about this is killing our ratings. Yeah. Yeah, you'll see
it with like insane like qan on people on Twitter
where they'll say at this like they're so far gone
(44:31):
that they'll be like, oh, news Max and Fox News
have gone woke, like yeah, because because they're not feeding
them the exact conspiracy theories they want to hear. And
it's just like, I mean, you can never please these people.
You're gonna have to just go more and more far right,
which I guess is sort of what they're doing anyway.
But um, it's it's just so funny to see people
completely straight faced thinking that because Newsmax had to like
(44:53):
legally apologize for something that they have now gone woke.
Um it's just like so insane to me to see that. Yeah,
and we just got a quote yesterday from I think
it was Kevin McCarthy that Biden is siding with woke
Wall Street. So that's you know, the other uh fully
woke out institution is Wall Street. Yeah, yeah, the damn
(45:16):
stock markets go and woke? What are they over there?
That's right, you know. I mean one of the things
that just there's so many things in this revelation which
I actually think is like going to really hurt Fox.
I mean I actually think like this is this might
be a turning point momentum, both financially but just in
the public kind of imagination. You overall lawsuit or the
(45:36):
specific revelations in this uh suit that she's bringing. Oh
not this specific soup, but the overall kind of like
that story. Yeah, yeah, the story that's that's coming out
about Fox that you know, I think most people just
kind of knew, have known for a long time, but nevertheless, um,
it's out there and in a way that I think
is actually seeping through. But you know, one of the
(45:58):
things that also just strikes me, and I think about
this too with like Trump World as well, it's like
these people spend so much time like putting out fires,
squabbling with each other, like you know, doing hush payments,
like like coaching people on how to talk to lawyers
and like dealing with it. And I'm just like, when
do you have time to do because I've worked at
(46:18):
a news organization and like it's a lot of work
just to do the thing that goes on TV and
then I do all this other work of like being sketchy.
It's just I just part of me just marvels that
kind of like when do they have the time to
do all this chicanery behind the scenes. So you're coming
away more impressed than anything. I think. I think they're
good producers, think they're at some level. I mean the juggling.
(46:41):
Juggling is impressive. It's true. UM, just some other details
from this report again by a Fox News employee, UM,
who was of course immediately countersued and put on administrative leave.
But as of you know what, while we're talking, she's
still a Fox News employee. UM that Tucker Carlson's offices
(47:02):
featured large pictures of Nancy Pelosi wearing a plunging swimsuit.
The staff casually makes anti semitic and misogynistic comments. Mister
Carlson's staff held a mock debate about whether they would
prefer to have sex with Miss Dixon or her Democratic opponent,
Governor Gretchen Whitmer, and that so like there's this detail
(47:25):
of like her first full day on the job working
for Tucker Carlson discovered that the Manhattan workspace was decorated
with the Pelosi picture. Then the next day, Justin Wells,
mister Carlson's top producer, called her into his office and
asked her whether Miss ms Bardaroma was having a sexual
(47:45):
relationship with the House Republican leader Kevin McCarthy. That was
day two of very healthy. Yeah, it sounds cool as hell.
And look, I don't want to be a pure want
to be a third Fox News. But isn't every swimsuit
of plunging swimsuit anyway, right, plunging into the pool? Yeah,
(48:08):
I have many many a plunge John. They repeat that
line multiple times in that and I know I like
the idea of a plunging swimsuit. Yeah, thats just that
wording got got approved. Um yeah. But then when she
complained about being harassed by male producers, HR told her
that she was not performing her duties. Um so yeah,
(48:29):
it's in some level, it's kind of what you would
expect from Fox News, but it's still horrifying to see
it in detail, like what would it actually looks like
behind the scenes. Nobody likes to see how the sausage
gets made, but you have to be impressed by their
ability to just juggle it all. As Jody Abrigant can
(48:52):
be quoted as saying, I can't wait to see Dominion
in theaters March right, starring Ben Affley. I mean that
there already was that Fox News bombshell. Yeah, all of
the details that I've learned from the various like dominion
reporting and you know, reporting on on the lawsuit is
(49:14):
like that movie must have had to cut so many
details for just being like two over the top, because yeah,
they still made it seem like there wasn't out in
the open, just you know, uh, these sorts of things happening,
all right. So a deadly fungus is supposedly you know,
(49:35):
it is trending on Google yesterday. Transition. I well, I
do just want to let you know that increasing number
of fungus samples resistant to the common treatments for it
are are appearing. I don't know. I tend to think
that when a threat so perfectly matches a pop culture
(49:55):
event that recently was incredibly popular, to be skeptical. Um
so um. I have a less popular opinion that Jeffrey
Dahmer never ate anybody, um, because he was arrested after
Silence of the Lambs came out, and I think he
was just an alcoholic who didn't clean up of his murder.
(50:20):
Love this theory. I love that you voluntarily wedge that
in with no real hook. This is a great event
that you're about here, new deadly fus. Yeah, other news,
Jeffrey Dahmer did he really eat anybody? Did he? I
don't know. It's a theory. These are John level. John
(50:45):
is very segus too. So well, you guys have a
nice little song for reference, Yeah, to reference your amazing seguys. Yeah,
if you just say the segue is good, it's a
good segue. Yeah, it's But anyway, the other details that
leading me to think this might not be something that
everybody needs to worry about. Do check your strawberries though
there was a strawberry recall. We we talked about that
(51:07):
on yesterday's Trending Frozen strawberries are might give you pepe,
So definitely everybody check that out. I think I saw
something about that on John's Gonna Hate This. But one
of my favorite websites it's called I Was Poisoned dot
com and it's I don't know if you guys know
about it. It's like a crowdsourced website where people can
post about if they got food poisoning and where they
(51:29):
think they got it from. Wow, And it's like very
useful on its face, but also sometimes people will it's
not it's not useful adults, it's somewhat useful. Maybe gonna
eat KFC tonight, I should check out I was poison
dot com to see if he's got Yeah, it's it's
worth checking out. But what's really funny about it is
that occasionally people will upload just like the nastiest picture
(51:50):
you've ever seen of like the end result of their
food poisoning, and it's like, we would believe you if
you just said you pute, like we didn't need to
see it. Yeah. Um, So it's a very it's a
very good website. I really like it. But John John
hates it. Someone that did that have any relation to
the sort of help a thing or No, you were
just kind of doing a jack. I think the strawberry
stuff they post stuff about, like, yeah, exactly, So it
(52:14):
is they mixed in real news with just diarrhea and
vomit pictures, which is actually a pretty good metaphor for
our podcast as well. Um, anyways, it's not it's not new.
The fungus isn't new. The numbers are the result of
the pandemic. And you know, with a lot of attention
(52:34):
from the medical community being paid to screening for COVID,
less emphasis was put on screening for this. But it's
a it's a thing that they've known about. We're worried
about this for a long time and have an eye
on so just in case anybody is out there concerned
that the Last of Us is about to happen to them. Uh,
(52:55):
it doesn't. It feels like it's just trying to get
you to click on an article. FYI see the last
of Us Pedro Pascal boy. I hope that happens. Thank you, amen, John,
Pedro Pascal will still exist whether or not there's like
a fungus infection going around the world. You don't know, Okay,
fair enough? Yeah, but will he escort me around while
(53:17):
I act like a little baby? So yeah, that's a
good point right there. Yeah, good point. Yeah, Thank you,
John Stephan. Such a pleasure having you on the show.
Where can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff?
Thank you so much for having us the last As
you referenced off the top of the show. We have
a podcast called The Blocked Party where we bring on
a guest every week to talk about a time they
(53:38):
were blocked on social media. We've had some some great
guests on the show recently and in the past, Tony Hawk,
Nicky Glazer. You talked about Emily Heller before we got
on air. There's some great episodes there. You can check
you out drill on right. You've had him on a
few times show a few times we've had some weird
Twitter guys on the show, and he does look like
(54:00):
a wrinkled Jack Nicholson and for kind of wild. Yeah,
So you can check that out wherever you get your pods.
And I also have a podcast about new metal. You know,
and I know the Daily Zeitgeist fans are huge morn
at Limp Biscuit people. It's a monthly podcast me and
and Brian Quinnby, formerly of street Fight Radio and now
(54:22):
of the podcast Guys. We review a yeah, a classic
new metal album every month. People seem to like it.
That one's fun too. Block Party you can check out
at block Party pod on Twitter and the podcast is
at the pod underscore cast and we spell cast with
a K. Yeah, yeah of course. Yeah. And I have
a Twitch stream we stream nightly. It's with Jesse Farrar
(54:43):
from your Kickstarter sucks if you're familiar with that podcast,
and it's called The Go Off Kings Twitch dot tv
slash Go Off Kings. Nice. And is there a tweet
or work of media, probably social media that you guys
have been enjoying. I've been watching the New Party Down
season and it is fantastic. They did not lose a
(55:04):
single step. Um, and I've been I've been really enjoying it.
I've rewatched the first two seasons to kind of get
ready for this one. Um, and it's it's great, just
a very funny show. Yeah back and I started watching
the New Party Down last night. It's I would actually
argue it's better. I think that's I think they've figured
really good joke tone a little bit better in this
new season. Very good. Um. I was gonna be that
(55:27):
guy and share a tweet that I did myself because
it's from the podcasts Patreon, so it's not actually I
was just sharing a story, but we got basically the
most unhinged Patreon message I've ever received, and I've I've
ever seen. Uh And so I figured your listeners might
like it and I would share it with you. So
(55:48):
someone to keep in mind, someone donated to our patreon,
so they paid us to send this message. Um, I
haven't heard one second of your podcast. It's a great
way to start, greatly to start a message to someone.
I'n't heard one second of your podcast, but I signed
up for your Patreon because I feel like I need
to be involved in a new metal apologist discussion. Let
(56:10):
me be frank. New metal was the most artistically bankrupt, idiotic, cynical,
and probably toxic genre in music history. It really sucks,
and this is we have a four year podcast talking
about this genre. I would like to offer my assistance
and expertise on an episode dedicated to metal bands that
briefly became new metal. I'm thinking Slayer's Stain of Mind,
(56:32):
Anthrax's Inside Out, Machine Heads, the purd Red. I'll even
talk about the talent load and reload, although in retrospect
those seem less like a cynical catch in and more
like James Hetfield's less than stellar ability to copy his
newfound favorite bands. Anyway, while I will never agree with
someone who concludes that Limp Biscuit was ever pretty good,
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I really want to have this conversation. Thanks, and so
I replied to that by saying, Unfortunately, we do think
Limp Biscuit is one of the best bands ever, so
I'm not sure that convo will work out. Thank you
for thinking of us, though, and then he replied, um,
do you understand that you are objectively incorrect? Try listening
(57:13):
to Limp Biscuit to find out again. We have covered
five Limp Biscuit album show already and the show is
the literal first episode of the show is about Limp Biscuit.
And then he stopped donating to the show. And when
you stopped donating on Patreon, you have the option to
fill out an exit survey, and his comment on the
exit survey was, I thought these guys wouldn't be morons
(57:35):
who actually liked the two of us discuss. Oh, well,
right there. Maybe he stopped contributing because he thought it
might be a conflict because once you guys hired him
to do the coverage that he was advertising that that
could do. Did you say this person submitted this comment
like anonymously or like could you have even no, I
(57:56):
see who it was? You out their name? They submitted
under a name, and it's a fairly common like it
wouldn't there would be options like it wasn't a sort
of you know, I would imagine there's you're probably the
only joke and like it. You know, it wasn't that
type of It was common first name, common last name.
(58:16):
But there is an like a sort of bit part
actor that has that name, and I looked at their
Twitter and they do kind of tweet like that, So mind,
I'm sort of hoping that that's who it is. And
I'll tell you guys the name off air so you
can also amazing. Oh yeah, Jody, pleasure having you. Thank
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you so much for listening today. Where can people find you?
Is there a work of media you've been enjoying? Um, well,
not much has changed since yesterday, so I you know,
I haven't made a new podcast since yesterday, so um,
but people can listen to good Sport wherever you get
your podcast. Als will have this Radiotopia history show this
day in political History. People can check that out. And yes,
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since yesterday, what have I consumes? What if I? Um, actually,
you know what I'll recommend. I'll recommend this app that
I really love and I do a little work with
them Photosclosure. But it's called Hark and it's a like
a podcast discovery app, and it solves something that I
certainly have always felt, which is like feeling very overwhelmed
by podcasts. And what they do is they take little
snippets from a bunch of different shows and make little
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playlists out of them. And so it's a great way
to get a sense of a bunch of different shows,
and then often I find myself saying, oh okay, I
have a sense of that that's not for me, or
oh wow, I can you know, find out find a
new podcast. So it's it's hark uh, it's it's actually
great and um they're nice people and I'm I'm into
what they're up to amazing. Don't use that app to
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find podcasts besides this one. This is the only thing.
It's just a direct link. You open the app, it
just goes daily. I feel like I do. I do
really like Locked Party. I highly recommend that. I also
just James Urbaniac tweeted that Ron de Santis is the
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same age as Jason biggs um and I'm having a
hard time with that. But I do love a good
blank as the same age as blank. Uh. Not that
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where we link off to the information that we talked
about in today's episode as well as a song. Usually
super producer Justin is out, Um, super producer Brian, is
there a song that you think our listeners might enjoy? Yeah? Yeah,
(01:00:51):
So this song is by Elle Michelle's Affair featuring Bobby Arosa.
It's called Stack a Deck and it's just what I've
been hooked on for the last like two three days.
It's kind of like m like a funky ballad. I guess.
(01:01:12):
Definitely a love song and a lot of card game metaphors. Hey,
we were talking about card games earlier, right, so yeah,
is it? Is it specifically Marvel snap metaphors? Well, you'll
just have to listen to finals. Yeah, I guess you will,
all right. We will link off to that in the footnote.
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