Fyre Festival Sociopaths, Trump’s Photoshopping Himself 1.23.19

In episode 314, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Pat Sirois to discuss the Super Bowl, the Fyre Festival documentaries, Trump releasing photoshopped photos of himself, Supreme Court upholding Trump's military trans ban, the Fox News graphic declaring the incorrect death of Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Trump's continued pettiness, Oscar nominations and snubs, and more!

FOOTNOTES:

1. Patriots and Tom Brady favored over Rams in Super Bowl rematch

2. Your guide to Hulu and Netflix’s dueling Fyre Festival documentaries

3. President Trump Posts Altered Photos to Facebook and Instagram That Make Him Look Thinner

4. Supreme Court Accepts Trump’s Word That Trans Troops Are Threat to National Security

5. Fox News Begins Its Day by Declaring Ruth Bader Ginsburg Dead

6. Pelosi Cancels Afghanistan Trip, Claiming Trump Administration Leaked Commercial Travel Plans

7. White House asks to do walk-through for State of the Union

8. Oscars: 'Roma,' 'Favourite' Top Nominations With 10 Apiece

9. Female Directors Shut Out of Oscar Nominations

10. Oscars 2019: Bradley Cooper and Spike Lee among shocking nominations snubs and surprises

11. Oscars 2019: 16 Major Nomination Snubs and Surprises

12. WATCH: El Michels Affair - Zaharila

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season sixty six, Episode
two of Dear Daily Sight Guys, the podcast where we
take a deep dive into America's share couch. It's using
the headlines, box office reports, TV ratings, what's trending on
Google and so she needs. It's Wednesday, January nine. My
name is Jack O'Brien a K. I read the news today,

(00:22):
oh Brian, uh huh sub beatles and I'm thrilled to
be joined as always by my co host, Mr Miles Grag.
I'm starting with the Miles in the mirror. I'm asking
him to change his ray knows. I can't could have
been any clarion if you want to give the wild

(00:45):
how to take go with Jacobi and Miles Gray whoa anyway,
So thank you to Ambergreen at cohaku or K zero
H four ku. I think that's what you're going for
for that. Michael jacqueson inspired a K. Yeah, man, you
you really got the Michael Jackson going deep, like digging deep. Yeah.

(01:10):
I didn't know that. Oh man, that's his reminder that
grantline looking to Michael Jackson Clark talking not uh well,
we are through to be joined by the hilarious comedian
and my old friends from the south By Southwest from
seven years ago. Mr Pats Royce, Hello, chilling man, chilling

(01:35):
just out here in l A. Just having fun, uh,
picking around doing shows and yeah, what the week has been? Like?
How many times you've been l A once before this? Okay?
How you liking it? I'm loving it man, It's it's
a it's a good scene. Like, I got a built
in set of friends out here through comedy, so that's
always fun. You can walk in and already feel like
you slightly belonged, right cool. Well, yeah, and I think

(01:56):
comedy is a small world as it is. It's yeah, yeah,
it's a it's a small, big world all over the nation,
like a little like there's a couch in every city,
right exactly. It's like being a freemason. Yeah, secret handshakes
and shake Do you feel this is something we talked
about at the beginning in the early episodes, But do
you feel like you're more in touch with the sort

(02:17):
of national consciousness and like what people are thinking about
and like people's moods in general? As a stand up
I do think that, and I've talked about that before,
Like me and my girlfriend. When we watched those, you
were that like Craig Ferguson show where they had like
the celebrities had to come on and get you to
guess the words or whatever. Craig Ferguson Name Game, Celebrity

(02:38):
Name Game. The celebrities who were not comedians have obviously
just drifted out to see is their age just gone
on and they're trying to yell out references and ship that.
He's like regular everyday people. They're just like you eat
off it. It's like you know gold, I don't know.
That was yea, And it was always like like Molly
Shandon was on there one time and she was like

(02:58):
nailing it because like she's like you still if you
still want to do good at it, you have to
have Yeah, you have to be in touch what's going on,
Like in a comic who doesn't like follow the news
or read Twitter or check out, like what's going on
is just kind of likely. What are you doing? You know?
Yeah that's touring your state, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah,
that's why comedians who get uber uber successful sometimes don't

(03:18):
stay at their highest level. Yeah. Yeah, it's why you
wear leather your second special because like the first special,
you're a regular person, and the second one you've just
been away from the public long enough to you're like, yeah,
this leather is I got leather money? Yeah, I I
have it. You know, ship I make it. You can't
have two pants? Whyeah? Yeah. But I have a theory

(03:39):
on celebrities that they stop their wardrobe tends to stop
evolving the year there at their peak fame. So yeah,
that's why Michael Jordan dresses like that. Yeah. All right,
pat We're gonna get to know you a little bit
better in a moment. First, we're gonna tell our listeners
a few of the things we're talking about today. We're
gonna talk about the fact that the super Bowl is set,

(03:59):
the Patriots are back the Empire, the Rams look really good,
and the reffing was really bad over the weekend. Uh,
We're gonna talk about a couple of Fire Festival documentaries.
Miles has watched both of them. He is officially a
Fire Festival historian. Trump is putting out photoshop pictures of himself,

(04:21):
which is uh, not surprising at all, but it's it's
just revealing. It's kind of awesome. God bless the media.
We're gonna talk about Scotus, upholding Trump's trans band and
more the RBG Chiron that is exposing the wishful right
wing story that Ruth Bader Ginsburg is dead. Uh so

(04:45):
we're not true. It's not true, uh for someone who
just heard that out of context. Right, Yeah, we don't
break a lot of news here on this alright, But first, Pat,
what is something from your search history that's from young
about who you are? Celebrity net Worth? I looked at
up two or three times a day, like I just

(05:05):
different celebrities and ship like that's it's so fascinating to me.
What's what's one that's kind of jumped out at you
as being surprising in either direction? Um another direction? Uh?
Like Like first of all, um, well, it's kind of
funny that the base entry seems to be three million.
I've never really seen anybody it's under three million, Like
anybody from like like Gary Owen that one doing community

(05:27):
like that's three million. It's like everybody who feels like
it's like that's you're like like dominoes, like you're getting
the club Like that's where it starts, which leads me
to believe a lot of those guys don't have three millions. Right.
A lot of people are always like they'll screenshot their
own net worth and they'll be like, hey, if you
can tell me where this money is? Yea, and the

(05:47):
like up in like the high ones. I mean, who's
I forget it wasn't the day, but somebody who's like
I had not even thought of in years, and it
was like four hundred million dollars. You're like Jesus. But
then you start to like you'll see the high one
and you look somebody up and it's like eighteen million.
You're like, ah, you broke, bitch. I gotta bust the
catch all right, man, what is something you think is underrated?

(06:12):
This might have a whole different thing out here in
l A. But okay, I know that the company itself
is probably preparing for a permanent American underclass. But Dollar
Tree kind of blows my mind sometimes. Like my girlfriend
got me onto that she like would watch like the
Hall of Videos like on Instagram, and they just you
can get so much useful stuff, and I mean tons
of unuseful stuff. I know, the Hall of It. There

(06:33):
were Hall of Videos for Dollar Tree. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
they get in And also you can like scratch that
spending itch, like if you go in and buy like
a bunch of yeah yeah, yeah exactly, just going it's
like like nickel shot night and so yeah shot night.
That's a reference to a John Lady bit. But yeah,
so yeah, that's a that's a pretty wild place, like

(06:55):
you can you'd be surprised. And then also this a
little scary. They sold more groceries and whole foods last year, yeah,
which is like like that's what like that that like
they're there. It's almost like they're planning for a permanent
American underclass, which is not like you know what, that sucks.
But hey, if you want a bunch of plastic ship
like for very cheap and you want to deck out

(07:16):
of kids party and make it look like dope, like
for nothing, you know, as long as you like you
squidge a little bit elsewhere for like the Disney face,
you get a few Disney Corners pieces and then the
rest of it is dollar tree streamers. Yeah yeah, but yeah,
it's pretty pretty cool. And I also noticed that they're
frozen food section is wild. You can get like one
dollar salmon filet's imagine living on your own and like

(07:39):
you can actually kind of make a health somewhat healthy meal. Yeah,
if you like four bucks and you're like, oh, I
got some veggies, there's vegetables. It's wild. Take a look
at a dollar tree. Get ready, get blown away? What
if something you think is over it? Man, I thought
about this for a long time, So I'm talking to
think of something else, and I gotta go with my heart.
Overrated in the true sense of being overrated, meaning it's
still good but people think they're better. Is blunts, Man,

(08:02):
I'm getting I know, I thought about all the heat
take on this. Wait, wait, okay, so okay. For people
don't know, blunt is a cannabis cigar rolled up in
a cracked cigar like a switch sweede. If you're lame,
you'll stuff off fucking black and miles. Yeah, you don't
know what you're anyway, So you have a voice like

(08:25):
somebody who has taken down had a doinker too. Yeah.
I grew up. I grew up in Central Texas like that.
I was like, my childhood smelled like grape phillies like that. Right,
the ground in your town is all like switch your
foils and ship, but like that's where that's where it comes.
That's where it comes. In it's I get older, I
noticed that like blunt smoking would apply to like regular

(08:46):
marijuana and say versus the inconvenience of an adult life,
it doesn't correlate. You have ash all over the place,
they stink. It's just like it says, I like them
if they get if they get tossed at a party,
but like I'm cool with it. But like being in
the direct vicinity of like some whehere blunts get smoked.
Every day, you're gonna step on something, You're knocking tobacco
all over your run, right right, It's just it's just
it doesn't work with the I feel like my lifestyle

(09:08):
as it's changed. Well, it's funny. I was just a
fucking the most loyal blunt smoker for most of my
time smoking. And then it kind of got to the
point where I used to back in the day when
like blunt wraps would have like a plastic straw on them,
because like we would have flavored ones out here. I
used to collect them in a bag with all the
homies and like y'all put that straw on the bag
just so we can look for posterity. And one day

(09:28):
I looked and there was like maybe eight things in
there and I go, oh my god, I've smoked this
much tobacco and that that's when I kind of it's
also like the cost effectiveness, like you can't be throwing
like a gram every day. Yeah, we just got better,
Like it's you put twenty five in that a session
and it was funny. Monday was the day off, so

(09:50):
you know, I had to uh, you know, celebrate with
a little bit of a honey fusion touch and shout
out to Earth's gift and coming through. And I think
I lost the you know, I think as like legalization
has brought more like pre rolls and people just like
dabbing and things like that. The interaction of like hand
rolling something and smoking it has been lost on me

(10:12):
a little bit. So I was like I missed this,
but yeah, I know what you mean. I definitely can't
like small And it's like I like a lot of
my friends I grew up with, like, uh like that
that that's still like how they get down and it's
just like man like me trips to the store just
to get a blunt you're taking just I just think
that it's time to show up at a party. That's cool,
but large over over enthusiasm over. I just I can't

(10:34):
get behind what are you smoking? I'm just I'm in
and out. I don't like like I like being high
doing what I gotta do, like you know, like working
and ship, but I like doing that and then just
like I like, you know, joint bull boom down and
out like and you know your life, you know, yeah,
because you can't like clip a blunt and then walk
around with it all days. Yeah, yeah, you're gonna smells.

(10:56):
I live in Texas where and so it's not that Austin,
Texas would surprise you. That is the legal yeah, because
he's just like, damn, there's people walking around. But at
the end of the day, it's still elite. Yeah right
yeah the Texas police no, no, yeah, yeah, they're not
like chill yeah, blunt for the boys, y'all under arrest.

(11:20):
The county just north of Boston is Williamson County AK Wilco.
As everybody knows it as and like, if you're going
through Wilco and you just like you have a picture
of you smoking weed to a teenager, little arrest, you like,
what is this ship just there? That's like a crazy
zero tolerance county. So if you like take too far
trip up north and then you have a joint in
your car. It's a much it's a much different trip

(11:42):
than if you were just like two exits things. They're like,
what's this rasta wig? Yeah? I see what's going on?
What you listened to? Is that jazz? That's jazz exactly
the calling card of any true pothead, the rasta wig. Yeah,
they just go, I knew something was up. The copy
take off the weird arrest you because they're like, you

(12:05):
know what, if you're not black or personal color, you
shouldn't bend. That's why I arresting. Very woke. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
so I would go, I would get behind that moved
like for once I can, I can? And finally, pat,
what is a myth um? I think that this myth
that you can like ignite. I say, I mean, if
you can unite a stable career off of some wild

(12:28):
stupid stunt or lie, I think like that we're starting
to see this. Those things kind of the facades are
falling on a lot of people that that that have
tried that, and I think it's just like you can't
do it. It's not if you're looking for like a
path of success and you think, well, what if I
do this, if I jump out the gate with this
crazy ship or this crazy political opinion or whatever, then
like then I'll get in and then I'll move forward.

(12:49):
And it's like, no, man, Like it's that I'm not
saying that doesn't work. I mean there's entire families. We've
gotten your fabulously wealthy that way, but like but like
at the same time, it's like, that's not that's the exceptions.
Like somebody went in the loddy right right. I just
being like on the on the fringe looking at in
the entertainment where I'm at now, I'm seeing so many
people like hit that dumb chip button and just being
like I'm gonna I'm gonna be this and like you

(13:10):
get this huge online exposure and then catapult that into
something that's stable and sustaining. Yeah, I just can't havepp know,
the new cycle just chew you up and spit you
out and be like all right, next thing, Oh yeah,
yeah we remember hot take guy. Yeah yeah. You can
like right now, in comedy, if you really don't give
a ship, you just want to like go out and
blaze of glory towards the sun, you can hit like hey,

(13:30):
I'm a right wing guy now button And because you
have any sort of like Mike presence or any sort
of like online following, that'll it'll shoot you ahead and
next thing you know, you're in the national spotlight. And
then like that's just a dangerous game, Like yeah, nobody
likes you anymore. It's like fifty weird as people. It's
just yeah, so yeah, I'm opening for a Ben Shapiro,
I see Patty Yeah yeah, or there other are there

(13:54):
other examples of that you were kind of thinking about, Yeah,
there's another one that happened. Oh man, which of your
peers career and are doing or not in comedy? Yeah, yeah,
let's see. I guess, like for example, that that threatened
Kid the Los Angeles threatened Kid with the band he
faked a fan base and went on a whole European tour. Yeah,
like that kid, like he he doesn't have like like

(14:16):
I don't know, like he's not have a path like
a sustainable career after that, like always gonna be that kid.
Network held a consulted with me first. Yeah, like he
may get like I don't know, like he made like
Jesse Camp is like a fucking perfect example, like he
wont to contest. Most people who win contests you don't
hear from them, Like ten years down the road, you're

(14:36):
talking about the guy who was wanted to be the
Vjes and lost to Dave Holmes. Ultimately, I felt like, man,
I felt Jesse should have won, though he was so
out of his head hippy guy. I'm a Jesse camp
proven Stuttard guy. You know, Like, I just don't think
that was the wrong decision on the exact It's like,
I'm I'm Yankee Yankees Patriots, do you know? Uh, well,

(14:59):
that's a great stepping stone to our first story. The
Patriots are back in the super Bowl at this point,
I don't know, Like I'm a quiet, self loving Patriots fan,
but like, isn't hating the Patriots old at this point?
Or is this don't give a fuck about anything? So sure? Yeah,

(15:20):
I don't know. I don't have I don't have time
to worry about Tom hating Tom Brady, but I know,
I think it is tired when I see people who
are like all about it. But also I have a
homie who is such a big Tom Brady fan that
his whole Instagram stories are like over there was like
each ship going nowhere, and then I look at that,

(15:42):
I'm like, dude, you gotta got a kid man that.
My high school chat log was like full up with
like chatlog, I'm sorry, what's that was was full up
with all I want to school and buston in the
Boston area. So my high school friends WhatsApp was full

(16:04):
of like people being like, yeah, what about Brady now
and then like sending long quotes from people about how
great a guy Tom Brady is. I was like, who
do you think that was from? Huh? Was from the
Pope like James Harrison or like some some guy who yeah,
from Nelson Mandela yea. Jimmy Carter had a few things

(16:27):
about tom My. I lived in I got a lot
of family in New England and so my um my
Facebook feeds affected as well. But then also I live
I'm from Texas. Like everybody hates the patriots there, so
it's my Facebook. It's a war zone. It's competed in
factions on Facebook in general, and not just anybody. I
just think that's the only one having that experience, Like,
you guys are getting along great on there, but it's

(16:49):
pretty bad. Yeah, we'll look the rams got in, so okay,
l A out here. Y g if you saw his
celebration when they hit that field goal, Oh my god,
I thought he was gonna turn was super sane. The
way he was fucking screaming. I could have swore he
was gonna fucking just turn into some other kind of
life form. Yeah, there was. We watched it happened at
Mohawk Bend, Like I was there, and like, there was

(17:11):
this dude on a date and uh, I hope he was.
He was already dating that girls two couples, and I
hope they're already together, because that was the first date.
He blew it because he was just like like like
like pasting all over the bars, screaming and the girl
was just like WHOA, Like, Oh, I didn't realize you
like it that? Yeah. Yeah, it just sits back down,
just like a bunch of profanities, like ways, where do

(17:33):
you work? Yeah? But l A is nothing if not
good at getting on a band wag. Oh yeah, it's
he invented the band wagon. They are the band this
is the band wagon. Well, Miles, Well, other people were
focused on the NFL. You were focused on that, not
focused on that. You were doing your Due Diligence and

(17:54):
binging both Fire Festival documentaries. You know, I watched the
Hulu and again I touch the Netflix one, and together
they make a really good documentary. You know. Like on
one side, I think the argument the Hulu documentary had,
or the criticism they had of the Netflix one of
Elliott to belly of Jerry Media, like the guy behind

(18:15):
Jerry being involved in the Netflix one. I'm like, yeah, okay,
I I see where their criticism comes from, like the
Fire Festival or the fire the Netflix one, they didn't
really try and obscure it too much. I mean they
do come out and say, yes, Jerry Media was part
of the promotional campaign, but the people who were actually
speaking from like who actually worked for Jerry Media that

(18:37):
spoke like a couple of soundbites they had were never like, yeah,
we fucked up. It's just sort of like we had
no idea, which I don't know, I mean, if that's
accurate or whatever. When you come when you put the
two together, the Hulu one says they absolutely knew, um,
so whatever. But I mean from that part to side,
like they're very scathing in their criticism of like Billy
McFarland and the other people involved, which is like, you know,

(18:58):
I get why know they they may have reserved their
their anger for Billy McFarland because at the end of
the day, like this was his whole ship that he
put together with jaw rule and fucked a lot of
people over. And I think that was one good thing
about the Netflix documentaries. They they go into the aftermath
a little bit more than the Hulu one about like
understanding all the unpaid wages that were all those Bohamian

(19:21):
people that were working on the festival. Uh. The woman
who was like running the restaurant and then like had
a go fund me, go fucking like exceed, Like she
at the end of the Netflix when she's in tears
because she's like, I basically had to like make all
these people whole because I believe Billy, and she raised
a ton of money to you know, pay her people
back and also just sort of make herself whole. But

(19:42):
I think it was again, it's a really it's a
really really interesting, uh look into the deception and just
sort of like the cultish hold this dude had because
a lot of these people are seemingly intelligent but still
went along. And I think That's a lot of it
has to do with the fact that he was able
to raise money, like at the last minute constantly, that

(20:03):
it never got to a point where they're like, Okay,
we totally got to pull the plug on this. Yeah,
that's a that was kind of the most interesting and
I think accurate the point that somebody made I forget
who made it in the Netflix documentary that's the only
one I watched, but they were basically like everybody who
was working on this project was too competent, and so
the fact that it was a terrible idea that like

(20:26):
you would have pulled the plug on like at the
beginning or you know, very early on in the process.
That just they were just solving one problem after the
other to the point that it was just barreling downhill
towards And I mean, there's some great stuff in the
Netflix stuff. I don't even want to burn half those quotes.
Just watch them. Man, the devotion these people had to

(20:48):
this festival. One man was willing to do the unthinkable there, Yeah,
I mean, not the unthinkable like that, but putting himself
physically on the line for for some guys ill conceived
fucking flex festival ideas so, and then willing to just
be like, yeah, I was gonna do that on on camera.
It's it's definitely worth watching. There's also one dude who's

(21:12):
just like shamelessly talking about the first night where everyone
realizes like the jig is up, but they still have
to sleep there, and he's like, yeah, so me and
my bros go around like slicing people's tents and like
pissing on their beds to keep us from having to
like have neighbors next to us. Right. I thought that
was like the underrated sociopath move of like, but he

(21:33):
didn't seem to like think it was like the worst
thing anyway. I think, Yeah, I think what happened was
once they figured out they were fucked, they're going to
all bets are off mentality. They're like, oh, y'all fucked me.
Watch me fuck this place down. I don't give a
funk who it affects, because now it's all about me. Like,
you could see some people kind of banded together even
though they were you know a bunch of rich millennials

(21:55):
who we liked seeing get sucked over. It was still
like some of them more like, you know, the ones
who were negotiating for food and water for on everyone's behalf.
And then there was the dude who was like, yeah,
I piste on this person so I wouldn't have to
sleep next to all Right, we're gonna take a quick break.
We'll be right back. And we're back, And Miles, what

(22:28):
is this gizmoto story about the president being not entirely honest? Yeah,
breaking news man. You know, for all the ship that
President Trump talks about fake news, I mean, he needs
to take a look at himself. And what I mean,
look at himself, look at the unedited photos of himself,
because someone at gizmoto started kind of like doing some

(22:50):
side by side comparisons of pictures put out from Trump's
Facebook and Instagram along with like the actual news photographs
and realized that your boy is photo shopping himself to
look a little bit thinner, uh, you know, flatten out
his necklines a little bit, uh and and at times
slightly augmenting the size of his hands, uh in like

(23:12):
a way that's like yeah, okay, like and it's really
subtle stuff, like they're just sort of bringing in like
his jacket a little bit, or just slightly elongating a finger.
But I mean, ever since Graden Carter called him a
short fingered Vulgarian, he's been really on the defensive about
his hands. It's almost like that's the truly right right.

(23:34):
I mean the second someone calls you for something and
you go look at this, you lost, Yeah you lost,
you lost. But yeah, it's it's like funny because like
it's like he's doing something like face tuning, and you
know he's trying to get his glow up on. I
do something was that he had the dog years and ship.
I was like, I think he's trying to get one over.
I don't think that's his biological It's pretty adorable. Noticed that.

(24:02):
Um yeah, so again, you know, just the interesting to
get a peek inside his head. He knew how sort
of how insecure and aware he was of how he
looks and how he wants to look and be perceived.
But yeah, when you look at all this like it's
really subtle to like even the editor at Gizmoto who
was looking at these like had to do like sort
of overlay gifts so you can kind of see the

(24:24):
difference because if you put him side by side, you'd
have to kind of squint your eyes. But you're like
oh yeah, look his like his torso got a little
bit thinner, his finger got like half an inch longer. Yeah,
it looks like they like I'm looking right, like you
can definitely see on his like the good one on
the face that looks like the ship that he's gonna
paint on the brick walls. When Phase two rolls around, right,

(24:45):
that looks like that. That looks like the North Korea
like status like ship. That's a handsome guy. And then
over here you're like, oh, that's a you know, a
dumpy's you know, sucking a ship. But over here I
can definitely see the difference. Like yeah, but you know,
again this isn't surprising, but it's just a funny one again,
you know, for all this ship that it's like about.
I mean not that I'm even surprised at how this
person contradicts himself, but uh, it's it's a sad look

(25:08):
into a torture. It's like the very definition of fake news,
Like this is in and of itself, like a fabricated report.
Yeah yeah, like like if you're putting an altered pictures
to yourself, like that's yeah, you're the one. You're at
this point, right, the people who basically invented photoshop was
stalinist Russia, like delete people from pictures who he wanted

(25:30):
killed and wanted erased from history so people didn't start
asking questions. And also just because he was mean, Yeah,
are also putting himself next to people he never meant to, right,
I don't know. I just know that that was like
the main thing they used photoshop for was to just
delete people from history. Um. And then yeah, they said

(25:50):
that Kim Jong un like, they don't think there has
been a picture released to the North Korean public where
he hasn't been photoshopped. Have we not seen those photos? No? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's just he's always photoshopped essentially. Well, well we see
the Western media's photos of him where he's definitely not
photoshop right, right, I'm trying to look. I don't think

(26:12):
I've seen the side by side of how is he
just ripped or something. He's always just like its subtle stuff,
but it's just, you know, his insecurity kind of bleeds
through and everybody around him. One of the best movies
of last year actually was the Death of Stalin, and

(26:33):
it just like gets it the sort of madness, sort
of insanity that takes hold when you are in a
dictatorship where the whole thing is just based around one
person's whims and like Khrushchev is played by Steve Bush
and Krushchev ends up like running Soviet Russia after Stalin

(26:54):
is gone. But like the thing he's best at is
just playing this game of Like he goes home at
the end of these like long all night drinking events
where Stalin like has all his guys around him, like
laughing at his jokes and like telling him stories and
ship and like goes home and dictates to his wife
everything that he remembers saying because he's ship faced, but

(27:17):
he wants to remember it the next day so that
he then can like because Stalin, that was a way
he like manipulated the people around him, was like basically
everybody got shipped faced. He would make everybody get drunk
and then like see how like what they said basically
TV show, Yeah, that's exactly right. He also been in
reality TV way ahead of his time. That alright, let's

(27:42):
talk about the other damage to reality that the president
is doing. So his band on trans people in the
military was upheld by the Supreme Court basically along the
party lines that people were worried about, you know, in
terms of people who are appointed by Republicans versus Democrats.

(28:05):
And yeah, now that there's a conservative majority on the
Supreme Court, this is the version of America that we
exist in. Yeah, well, it's not like a final decision, right,
because this was just basically about whether or not they
could enforce the ban while there are other lawsuits happening
in lower courts. So they're like, Okay, you can let

(28:26):
it rock until these other the lower courts decide and
they could ultimately overturn it. We don't know, but this
decision does not bode well because there isn't like a
written opinion on it. Uh, there's just the ruling. But
based on that, if you look at what the administration argued,
it sounds like basically, these conservative justices believe the administrations

(28:47):
take on this that is, this policy is a threat
to readiness, good order, and discipline, sound leadership, and unit cohesion,
which are essential to military effectiveness in lethality. So basically,
trans people are rent to the military is what this
ruling is basically communicating to the world. And that's what
they believe despite all the fucking studies that have come

(29:09):
out from experts saying this is not a problem. Uh.
And even Trump himself said like, as this whole thing
was going on, he was like, this is what I
want the Secretary of Defense to do, but until like
I see some convincing studies on this all yet to
make my decision or whatever. But basically what he's saying
is like I was looking for a study that would
confirm my own bodies here, and he got that and

(29:31):
then went with it, and so it's just it's just
it's funked up. It's the same thing with like the
Muslim band. They were able to sort of skate on
these like really lame studies and arguments to be like, well,
it's not a Musli because North Korea is in there,
so it's not a Muslim ban kind of a thing.
And so it just shows you that, you know, this
Supreme Court is all in to do whatever you know,

(29:51):
the administration wants, and it makes you wonder like what
would this look like if Justice Kennedy is still in there,
or if we didn't have Cavin. I mean, look, well
this is what it is, and this is why the
Supreme Court is so important. My parents were both like
I came from a big military family. My parents did
you know each did? I had twenty two years in
my my mom did twenty. My sister was in the
Air Force for ten years. And like I just remember

(30:14):
like growing up or whatever, somebody like, especially when I
was like a teenager and some of my friends kind
of sucked and like when the decision was made that
person was get their life together and joining the military.
Remember how happy my parents would be to hear that news.
They're like, good, you get him in. They wanted to
come on down, and there was always that kind of like,
you know, like this is open for anybody to come
and do mentality. That's how my parents, I feel. They
experienced the military and they were like, yeah, anybody can

(30:36):
come in. My dad but it was still don't ask,
don't tell. You know, he had soldiers who were gay,
and he knew about it because you're the superior. It's
just ship you'd find out, and like, you know, they
kept it on the sneak. Then it didn't bother anybody.
And I think that they've been transgender people have been
serving in the military for for years and it's just
like now they had like it's a it's a talking
point for for what for what reason? Like there's no

(30:57):
enter the public exactly enter the public discussion, right and
and like you know, they codified the protections for trans
soldiers during the Obama administration. I think that's have to
do with why he wants to completely take that away.
It's like, oh, well that's what Obama is, So we're
getting rid of that because we don't funk with the
quality or whatever. But yeah, this is gonna affect around
nine thousand members of the military essentially, and many of

(31:20):
them are like serving with distinction and like their their
superiors are like, no, these these are like good soldiers yea,
Like no one is out here being like yeah, thank god.
So again it's just another like the Supreme Court is
taking this like really lame evidence to make these decisions
that are ultimately hurting, you know, the connuity within the military.

(31:41):
And you'd imagine and again another hit to the LGBTQ community,
which is like, you know, like what the like, what
is America at this point? I mean, it's it's whatever
Trump wants. And and if you're if you're goal is
to build cohesion within a unit, and now you're like
everybody that you didn't know, like, you know, the tides
of history can change tomorrow and you're working out of here,
Like what does that tell somebody? Like it's like, oh,

(32:02):
we're a brotherhood. We just built this, We went through
a million dollar trading program to foster this brotherhood between
us that's supposed to help us in battle. Just to
know that at any moment that could be stripped away
just because on somebody's whim, it's like and so it
just takes it takes like credibility away from that whole thing,
which I think which is provide even further like you know,
disassociation when you think about even like people who have

(32:23):
immigrated to this country and served in the military like
with high honors and then suddenly like are going to
have their citizenship or ability to stay in the country
put at risk over this president's decision to be like oh,
well you know these people like you know, we we
can't trust them whatever despite them putting their lives on
the line for the country. Again, Yeah, it's sort of
erodes people's faith and trust that anything, uh there's any conduity. Yeah,

(32:47):
and then the systems, yeah, just like eroding and slipping away,
and it's like out of faith in this system anymore.
It's just it's I don't know, it's it's odd, but yeah,
I mean this is again, you know, they just have
to make sure that the you know, Christian rights feels
that they're being herd because that's really Yeah, those are
the people who are the most vocal about anyone who's
lgbt Q. When when you look at you know, where

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Karen Pence is working, Mother Pence at a school that
is basically just built to discriminate against anyone who is
l g b t Q, I A you know, and
his response was like it was like he just played
the card of like I feel discriminated that you're mad
about that. It was like, shut the funk up, Like
that's like that that is such a like a like
that's a an emotional tactic used like an eleven year

(33:29):
old or something. It's just like that's not even I
don't know, it's it's I mean, actually you're attacking Yeah, yeah,
I feel you're attacking me because because I hate you know,
And again it shows you where the discourse is too,
because if that were a school that was like we
discriminate against like black children, there would be fucking there
would be I mean a lot more outrage I think
from politicians too, whereas this one is again because you know,

(33:50):
people need to fucking raise their voices about this ship.
This isn't it's not an issue that has any gray area.
This is you know, it's just straight up discrimination for
people who have no there's no reason that they need
to have their rights in friends to point. Yeah, like,
the only thing you ever hear is people who serve
with trans men and women who say, you know, they
were just one of us, and they're like a part

(34:12):
of our unit and just like anyone else, and they
were great. And you know that Fox News would have
if there was one person who had one experience where
they were like fucked up and fucked us up like
during training, that that person an't would have their own
fucking show. Yeah exactly. But I mean to your point
of people on Trump's side of things claiming discrimination, we

(34:37):
aren't going to talk about the Mega Kids standing in
the face of the Native American Vietnam veteran on today's
episode because that story is still developing. But uh, but clearly,
I mean, look, these kids need to get their ship together,
regardless of who they are, getting their shipped together because
Mitch McConnell's like pr Team or one of the ages

(34:59):
represent sand But one of my favorite tweets from you,
Pat was you said that basically the expectation that people
want to wear a MAGA hat without being like it's
the most prevailing delusion of like the last three years.
It's like you can't like again I say, it's like

(35:20):
it's almost infantile when they like when somebody's like I've
been deleted off of friends Facebook accounts, and they're like,
it's just a hat. Why shouldn't I get treated any differently?
And it's like the world we live in is not
the world where that hat doesn't mean anything, Like you
know what the hell that means? You're putting it on
by very nature, you're being provoking with it, like you'll
just think it's a cool hat because hey, it looks
like ship. We all know it. Like that was just

(35:41):
a regular hat that just said like even as a
blank I'd be like, yeah, like if it was like
just like I went to this store and you should
go there too, like I would still be an awful hat,
like and yeah, so it's just that's so funny. But
I see this thing of like I should just be
allowed to like you have a school not accepting gay
kids or gay family members. They can't even have gade parents,

(36:02):
and that's just allowed to continue. And then you're able
to like just be like, well that's just my my
belief and then expect to just be respected for it.
It's like, no, you can't. That doesn't work to me.
A right when your belief doesn't respect the humanity and people,
then you're cashing out. Yeah, I mean it just becomes
a very high stakes issue to those people at other

(36:24):
people who care about There was like a high school
basketball game too, I think in Minnesota or something where
like the students there was a team that was not
coming out for the anthem and it was like a
predominantly minority school I think it was mostly black kids.
And then like the students at this high school they
brought out like these Trump flags and ships and people
were like what is this, like you know what the like, well, no,

(36:45):
they're just supporting, Like yeah, I'm just supported, Like I
know who brings out like basketball game like even like
like I would never bring an Obama sign out, just
so somewhere where that wasn't Obama related, like it would
just make no sense that my day schedule is that
even if you did, that's not the same. Yeah, of course,
of course, yeah, it's that's the issue with both sides

(37:06):
in it. In yeah, climate, is that one side represents
hate and racism and discrimination towards people. Which is funny
too because it's so clear to the people who are
deploying all this trump you know, paraphernalia as provoked, like
provoking or being provocative, but no one else is willing
to be like, yeah, that's true, you know what I mean. Like,

(37:26):
but clearly these people understand the power of it by
using it to provoke people. Yet there's still like this
disconnect where people are being like, yeah, the reason why
because like when you have NBC being like, let's not
use racism the world, Okay, Now, I think that's a
real danger that you know, you're seeing anywhere from you know,
I talked last week about Jake Tapper fact checking Alexandria

(37:48):
Cassio Cortes for some ship that he just basically got
from a libertarian think tank. Uh, but even SNL over
the weekend, like kind of both sides the government shutdown,
really yeah, kind of like they were like, you know,
Trump was sticking to his arbitrary five billion dollar number,

(38:08):
but then Nancy Pelosi was basically being willfully vindictive and
just doing it as like because she's drunk on power,
and it was just like it was just a very
like superficially, they get to feel like they're taking it
to both sides, but it's just not a it's not
an accurate observation or like, well what you're looking at.

(38:31):
You had the presidents say in the oval that he
was going to own it. He wasn't gonna blame anybody.
It was purely his decision to shut the government down
over using this actic. And then but then they want
to scarre and be like, well, you know, the Democrats
could like like, no, this isn't what this is. And
I think it's a mischaracterization. But I think that for
most Americans, this mainstream culture that the right is like

(38:55):
it has like a leftist bias, is it doesn't have
a left of spice. It actually has a right word
bias because people are willing to entertain and like pay
lip service to this vastly you know, right tilted perspective
just because it makes them look like they're you know,
reporting from nowhere or you know, giving it to both sides,

(39:18):
And it's just the mental gymnastics that people play to
like to maintain that, like like like normal everyday people
that I just will see you on the internet of
trying to maintain that both sides are kind of crazy.
And I'm just in the middle of what a little
bit dub dub like those assholes like and I'm just like,
what world do you live in where you think that,
Like like it's like you can just walk away from
this debate. It's like it's unfortunately with when I live

(39:41):
in the ships at our doorstep, you can't just be
like both sides are crazy because it's obviously not true.
And it's like it's just like your head in the
sand to get I don't know, it's just yeah, you
have one side like vocally saying like the wealth divide
is killing the country and the other being like, yo,
billionaires need to let last contact. I don't know what
the fund is wrong with you guys. Also, there should

(40:03):
be a thresh income threshold to be able to live,
so and you're like, what you know, life got a
cover charge down right, Like oh, you know your ratios
are not good? That's right, alright. Real Briefly, Fox News
put up a chiron over the weekend announcing the demise

(40:23):
of Ruth Bader Ginsburg, and then you know, I took
it down and said, oh, that was an error. You
know that this is something that all news outlets have.
They have you know, on stand by death announcements or
oh bits for various public figures who are sick or
might be dying soon. But the fact that they just

(40:43):
had that ship so ready to go and like such
an itchy trigger finger on it is funny and I
think telling because you know, I monitor the front page
of Drudge. Uh actually there's only one page of true.
I'm monitor Drudge, and during last week there was this
sort of story he was trying to foment where, you know,

(41:05):
because she wasn't showing up to arguments. You know, they
were talking about the fact that she might have pneumonia
and that she might only have days to live, and
they're trying to like put it out there that she's
on her last legs and to just basically start the
process of moving on, which you know, I could see
that eventually being a thing that the right tries to

(41:27):
put forward that if she is, you know, not able
to make it out of her home to come to
chambers or something like that, then they're gonna try and
get her to step down, and uh, that ship ain't happening,
would be my guess. But anyways, it's that's a story
that what's the process for the news room to be like, Okay,

(41:49):
I think we need to prepare a package, you know,
just keep it on standby. They have a package prepared
for you now, but they have it for almost everybody.
They saw me in San Francisco. Oh wow, Like so
nearly anyway for a lot of people yet because they
just no matter what the state of health is, no,
not no matter what. But I think anybody who it's

(42:11):
like they're like, it's your seventy one birthday, alright, somebody
put that package you. I don't think. Yeah, I don't
think there's like an official official thing they have. Yeah,
but these things happen. They like go back in and
at it and yeah yeah, and they just have a
troph Yeah it was what weird, dude. That's the job
that network right there, like a good picture, get the
death birth years together, make them glow, make them glow.

(42:36):
All right, We're gonna take a quick break. We'll be
right back, and we're back, and the government shut down
stretches on. It does seem like there is some negotiation

(42:57):
taking place, Uh, I mean the weekend forerring bullshit fucking legislation.
Because also they're like, we know we'll give DACA people
protected status or whatever. That's already happening because of the
court decisions. So that's not a thing you're bringing. Didn't
say it was like three years to was like three
it's again, it's it's it's nothing. It's it's just for

(43:19):
the appearances that they're trying to work towards it, but
they're nothing. They're offering nothing substantive that would actually make
Democrats come to the table. Anyway. Amid all of that,
there's all kinds of ship was going on back and
forth between UH Speaker Pelosi and Trump last week. You know,
first UH Speaker Pelosi was like, nah, fam to the

(43:39):
idea of a state of the Union happening, because it's like,
what are you gonna report on what the state of
the union is? That is shut the funk down, so
we don't have anything to say that. She felt it
was just inappropriate for there to be a State of
the Union address, given the government shutdown and also the
longest whatever. Yeah, and on top of that, they're like
you're gonna have unpaid people, Like no, this isn't good,
although Kirsten Nielsen was like, no, we can make it happen. Sure, whatever.

(44:01):
But then, like I said last week or maybe yesterday,
Hogan Gidley was saying, like he's like, well, maybe the
super Bowl has to get shut down because we wouldn't
be able to do that. It's like, look, if you
can do one anyway, not important. So Trump, we all know,
is super petty and was not gonna let a woman
get the last laugh. So he denied her use of

(44:22):
a government aircraft to take a congressional delegation to Afghanistan
to reaffirm our support of the troops and to talk
to allies in the region who are all like, yo,
what is the president talking about? Just blowing up all
these alliances we have was probably an actual thing that
needed to happen. So then Nancy had a plan beasts
like fuck it will fly commercially, keep that under wraps.

(44:45):
But someone in the administration got real petty and leaked
her commercial flight information that people knew like how they
were going to be traveling, which was opening them up
to grave danger to know, but like the Speaker of
the House and a bunch of people from Congress, We're
gonna be like on a fucking plane. Yeah exactly. Uh
So people were like, how the fund does that even happen?

(45:06):
Because again the petty bar has been raised again, So
now petty even that's like, yes, endangerous, it's just malicious,
fucking terrible behavior. And now on Tuesday, the Trump administration
was saying, like they let the Sergeant at arms know
to prepare for a run through of the State of
the Union because the President still is trying to make

(45:28):
it happen, and just you know, total disregard for the
fact that the Speaker was like, you are not invited
to do the State of the Union because of the situation.
You're more than welcome to do it from the oval
or whatever. And then Mr Hogan Gidley again with the
real sassy, says, we have no announcement at this time.
But Nancy Pelosi does not dictate to the President when
he will or will not have a conversation with the

(45:49):
American people. So you know, they're going back and forth.
So maybe SNL does have a point. All right, let's
talk about Academy Award nominations. They were announced yesterday morning,
and there were some surprises. I mean, I think the
thing most people are up in arms about is that
Bradley Cooper didn't get nominated as director. Now that that

(46:13):
was the snub. I gave least shit about that he
didn't get nominated on his first movie out right, uh,
or all the women that were snub Yeah, there's also
that very very incremental growth in that department. Yeah, they said,
I just to touch on that. Of all, like the
behind the scenes nominations, fifty three or female, so that's

(46:34):
about twenty five percent of the nominees. That's up two
percent from tent of the nominees last year. And yeah,
and even like in the nominated producers, five of the
twenty five or female and one of the sevent team
producers for the Best Animated Feature is a woman anyway. Yeah,
but hey, at least Black Parents that became the first

(46:56):
superhero movie and just to get the Best Picture or not, Yeah,
that's that's cool. Like like like Black Panther is awesome.
I just like I was like really like that's like
it was like it was a dope flick. I know,
if it was like the best picture flick. I think
they're like taking into the fact that it was such
a popular film and cultural moment. I mean, I don't
know how many people are going to say, like this

(47:16):
is the most brilliant storytelling, Like it's just the most
solid fucking superhero movie definitely, And I think for that,
I mean, that's why I'm not mad at it. But yeah,
I mean, like what you get ten nomination, ten nominees
for Best Picture, Black Panther Better Being Yea, yeah, yeah,
I thought, you know, Ryan Coogler probably deserved to be
nominated for Best Director, and uh, Michael B. Jordan's probably

(47:37):
deserved the Best Supporting Actor nominee. That that that that
performance is just so good. Yeah, changed people if he
changed his whole vibe after that movie came out. Yeah,
that's gonna get him those like dope roles. I've watched
him since he was on the wire, Like I've always
been a thing of that dude, Like that's cool. That's
gonna get them roles where like you know, like like

(47:57):
interesting as they come on, interesting roles. Here's a bad
guy or a villain or like a yeah, like a
less you know, a more great character, I'm so excited,
rather than Carl Weather's sun. Yeah, it's also great great role. Yes,
he's gonna play Carl Weather's son from Jumping Jack Flash.
So another narrative about the nominees is that they scrapped

(48:19):
that idea of having best Popular Movie. Oh right, right right,
And people were saying that that could have helped maybe
because the way they were talking about it was that
it would be overlapping, like you could have overlaps, so
the Best Picture nominee could also be the best Popular
film And in that case I could kind of see

(48:40):
it because Bohemian Rapsody I think, got nominated as Best Picture,
but it was really a nomination for this other category
that didn't really exist. But they were just like, well,
we gotta have popular movies out here. A Star Is
Born would probably have been nominated in both categories, Black
Panther probably would have been nominated in both categories, and
Crazy Rich Asians got totally shut out, as did A

(49:02):
Quiet Place except for Best Sound Editing. W What do
you mean totally shut out? Crazy Rich Asians didn't get
nominated in a single category. Yeah, Quiet Place we get
sound editing. It's just like, yeah, you know, there was
just like nothing. Yeah, the way they did the quiet
and it's like they turned the mics off. So also

(49:23):
just revisiting the idea of giving the oscars out five
years after the fact, just looking back at the two
thousand thirteen or the awards that were given out in
two thousand four team for the two thousand thirteen year
in film, this is actually a pretty solid year because
Twelve Years of Slave won a bunch of awards at one,
I think Best Director, Best Picture, and Lapida now Ango

(49:47):
one for Best Supporting Actress and that was like that
was her announcement of like her being on the scene.
So but there are other movies that like got totally
shut out that kind of have had a place in
the national consciousness since then. Mud I think is kind
of a well liked movie that had sort of an

(50:09):
afterlife on cable Prisoners, which is Denny Villeneuve. How you
say that in French? I have no idea. Uh Inside
Leewin Davis, Uh fruit Vale Station and uh The Act
of Killing feels like one of those movies is a documentary.
But if you're ever gonna nominate a documentary and the
Best Picture category. That ship was Wild and I feel

(50:32):
like it's a movie that you constantly here referred to
uh in the That was the documentary of the country
where they had like massive like basically genocide, and then
they went back and had the people who committed the
genocide who are still like in power and like enjoying like, uh,

(50:54):
they had them reenact the killings and like they're like
still proud of the genocide they committed, and then like
they slowly bring them around to confronting what they did,
and like one of the main like guys who killed
hundreds and hundreds of people with his hands, uh, like
ends up like having this weird like stomach issue on

(51:14):
camera because he's just like the guilt is hitting him,
but he can't deal with it. It's like one of
the craziest things I've ever seen in a movie. Talking
to your psychological travel like right, that gives great weight
to like the power I'm actually sitting down and talk. Yeah. Um,
movies they got nominated like that haven't really held up

(51:36):
quite as well, Like Nebraska is one of the Best
Picture nominees. Her was. I remember liking her a lot
the year it came out and then like, you don't
really hear about that movie anymore. American Hustle, I feel
like hasn't held up quite as well. Then Wolf of
Wall Street was out gravity uh twelve years of Slave,

(51:56):
so they got like half of the category, right I think,
But I still, you know, I still think it would
be fun if, right now we were going back and
revisiting what the best movies were five years ago, like,
you know, with a little bit more wisdom and retrospect,
as opposed to waging a political campaign about movies that
just came out that most people haven't seen, you know.

(52:18):
And then Sorry to Bother You was totally shut out. Yeah,
Sorry to Bother You was totally shut up. One of
the best movies. It's wild but Spike Lee was nominated
for Black Klansman for Best Director. It was his first
nomination for best director. What he was never nominated for
Do the Right Thing Malcolm X Malcolm X. Like I

(52:39):
knew he didn't win for that, and I was always like, well,
that that's wild, Like he definitely should have won for that,
but he wasn't even nominated. This is the first time
he's been nominated. It's that's that's crazy. Yeah, yeah, that's
pretty crazy. He's gonna be He was never nominated like
the Leonardo DiCaprio, you know, where people just rooting for him.
He's like, maybe this will be the one. And the

(53:02):
other kind of notable omission was Won't You Be My Neighbor?
The documentary Mr Rogers one. Yeah, I didn't get nominated
for Best Documentary even though it was like critically and
universally beloved and made more money than uh most movies,
most documentaries of all time. Yeah. I just watched it

(53:24):
for the first time and like, I know, was like
when it was coming out and was like, oh, but
the watching it go cry like complete not lying, like yeah, yeah,
it's by myself. I was like, oh, goddamn, such a
good man. Yeah yeah right, yeah, more or less crying.
It's like, God, that's that was the last one. Yeah,
are no more good people? Yeah yeah, yeah, we're all fucked.
I wanted to be mad about that, and then I
went and looked at all the nominees for Best Documentary

(53:47):
and like, the trailers make them look really fucking cool.
So I don't know, but still shout out to Mr Rogers.
Um yeah, still, let's still shot. What's his first name? Okay,
good to know. See I don't even know his first name.
I just found out there's this kids show Daniel Tiger
that I thought was just like another you know, yeah,

(54:10):
I thought I thought that was just like another like
anthropomorphic like animal thing that sold toys. But it's actually
made by the people who made Mr Rogers Neighborhood and
like basically the Daniel Tiger character is is Mr Rogers.
And I watched my first episode with my son yesterday

(54:31):
and it was the first time where he like seemed
not I don't know, like he it just seemed like
it was like wholesome entertainment for you know, like he
seemed more inspired and like enlive and after watching it
as opposed to like when we watched like David Lynch
film Rambo. Right, my girl has my girlfriend has two kids,

(54:53):
and Daniel Tiger is a little too too young for
them now. But when I when I like first I
forgot together with or like that that was like on
heavy rotation was Daniel Tiger, and uh that was pretty dope.
And so yeah, it's all it's all Fred Rogers extended
universe stuff man, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, right, Well Pat

(55:14):
it's been a pleasure having you. Man. Yeah, man, thanks
for having me on fun Time. Yeah. Where can people
find you and listen to you? Well, you can find
me on Twitter. It's a at ps t x P
eazy y t X. I made that like two thousand
and nine and a time to do that one time
account change. We just changed your name because yeah, such
probably do that. So for now it's at PC t X.

(55:35):
So when you're hear this, look for it. Also, I
have a podcast called Lie, Cheat and Steel. Yeah, I
wanted to talk to you about this. So you were
saying that the first episode is about so, so explain,
Explain the premise and then we'll talk about the episode. Yeah,
it's me and my good friend cath barbaradoor O. She's
an excellent comic. She's based on of Brooklyn Now, but
we used to record it in Austin. Now we do
it remotely. It's basically about liar. The tagline it's a

(55:56):
podcast about liars, fraud thieves, and bullshitters and just anytime
there's like weaponized dishonesty or somebody just doing something dishonest,
we get into In the first episode was about the
little boy that went to heaven and it's a book
that was written by a little boy who said he
went to heaven and then like taken by his like
religious as dad and like just throwing him to the
public spotlight. Like but actually it was six years later

(56:18):
and the kid was like six. They did a follow
up story and his birth because I got something that
happened with the birth that was notable. I forget. I
haven't listened episode a while, but so then the news
comes over whenever he's talking to one of the guys
about the car accident. That's what it was about the
car accident. How the little boy said he went to
heaven and so like then they were like, yo, that
should like be a book or something. Man, something like
I just got his dad who just turns out to

(56:38):
be an asshole and he's got his his brain turning,
and he just like God sat down his son who
was like, uh is quadriplegic from the accident, and like
had him write a book. And it was like he
wrote this thing, like this account of like something that
he said coming out of a comma when he was three.
Now he's nine, recounting the story of going to heaven,
and it's like falling apart, and the book is not

(57:00):
that tight, like it's like reading it, there's almost no
talk of heaven. It's all like just yeah yeah, like
there's no heaven, like exposure kept me strong. Yeah yeah,
it's like they obviously just like coerced it out of
this kid, and like later out, later on you find
out like the writing sessions were just like editors, like
sitting down with them, like, come on, Daniel, so what
happened when you were in God's lap? And he was
just like in his head like I made this up

(57:22):
when I was three years old. So he's under untold stress.
And he eventually, yeah, he released a newsletters saying that
he did not see the God. He made it up
because his parents were religious and he just said it.
He's like, however, he said, he's still you should pray
and read your Bible. He had his little his little
two cents. But his dad has taken that book and
like abandoned his family. The wife has said she doesn't

(57:42):
receive spousal support or emotional support from him, was her quote.
I believe and he's just like gone, Like it became
a huge like voice like the right wing Christian speaking
circuit yeah, and so he's just like out there like
doing it big people. He's like, I don't know how
to get your kids no now, like they think the
last one was his next project. It was like self
help ship. It was like how to get your life

(58:03):
around and like I don't know, like how to get
out of debt and stay a little of Christ. And
I grew up on a Baptist church. So there's that's
a huge market for ship like that. It's like whatever
problem you have, here's a guy telling you, yeah, how
to do it while also being cool with God, and like,
you know, people buy it. So he's like, yeah, he's
out crushing And so if you like stories like that,
that's what we talked about. They're just these wild, wild
cases of dishonesty. You know, cure your e ed with

(58:26):
g O D y oh man. I have gone over
to plenty of light shot at friends houses for like
church events or whatever, and you're like be reading like
their reading selection and like the bathroom and it'll be
like staying intimate over fifty with God. Doug's parents are weird. Yeah,
it's not cool, Like, yeah, don't don't dirty talks, praise words.

(58:51):
I'm glad that's not a factory, and then by insects
that'd be weird. Yeah. The oh, the religious cult Children
of God used to tell people to picture that they
were having sex with Jesus, including men, had to imagine
that they were having sex with a top or a bottom.
I don't know, they never got into that. Yeah, like

(59:11):
with the recruiting tactics they would send out girls to
like the guys are like, yeah, yeah, Jesus got it anyway. Yeah, yeah,
I'm definitely thinking of Jesus over here. Thanks for checking
out to you that you're having sex with Jesus? Is
that okay? I feel like I feel like any pastors
like hold, it was real fun up and they ended

(59:31):
up having like all sorts of issues. What was this there?
It's called the Children of God at the time, and
then I think they've changed their names since, but they
basically raised this one adopted child to be their messiah
and he ended up like going on a shooting spree
and like killing the nurse that raised really wild hit miles.

(59:53):
Where can people find you? Yeah? Thanks Google doing it
to me right there. You can find me on Twitter
and a Graham at Miles of Gray a tweet I like,
because it's something I lived through. Is from Reductress. At Reductress,
it says, mom, just curious about whether you've seen that
tidying up show yet, because yeah, my mom was like,

(01:00:14):
have you seen it? And I'm like, what do you think?
She's like, everything brings me joy away because my mom
likes to keep ship. That would be throwing what. No,
she just cut that off. Everything brings me joy. Touch it,
I can look at it. The whole thing is bringing
me joypers Okay, this is from the day you were born.

(01:00:36):
Shout out to Bay areas like Gang by the Way,
coming out late, hanging out with us ahead of the show.
The people who worked at the club were like, a
lot of people haven't been shown up for the eleven
thirty shows, you know, because that is pretty late. Uh.
And we had a sold out house. Yeah, the crowd

(01:00:56):
was awesome. We hung out with him for a little
while afterwards. There is a controversial picture, uh, in which
I'm doing prom pose with one of our fans and
his girlfriends seemed not not pleased with that. I was
just trying to do prompose, guys. But as something tweeted
at me at Mocking Mocking Ops, tweeted Jack, if you're

(01:01:18):
going to do the prom pose, you gotta leave room
for Jesus. So appropriate our conversation justin to West Coast Sunrise,
his lovely partner for coming through. Everybody we met with
so cool. We we have the best fucking fans in
the world, I know, incredible and it was great to
chill with everybody outside and you know, do what we

(01:01:39):
do in California. Yeah, Miles had a good deacon of blunt.
Yeah a tweet I've enjoyed, uh, Megan am ram So
yesterday Aaron Sorkin was saying how how the new young
Democrats stop acting young or some ship? She said, yeah, sure,

(01:01:59):
I like sort and sork In my own dick. She
is the best, all right. You can follow me on
Twitter at jack I'm the Squirrel Brian. You can follow
us on Twitter at Daily Ziguys. We're at the Daily
Zeke Guys on Instagram. We have Facebook fan page on
the website daily zuys dot com where we post our

(01:02:19):
episodes and our footnote where we link off to the
information that we talked about. Today's episode of Worlds The
song well write out on Miles, what second? This is
from a band called El Michael's Affair. It's called Zaharilla, uh,
featuring this vocalist Pia Malick Uh, and it's uh, it's dope,
just the kind of good. It's good vibe, good, good instrumentation,

(01:02:41):
good melodies with the singer Pa. She's really dope. Yeah,
just checked us onto Vibration. Alright, we're gonna write out
on that. We'll be back tomorrow because it is a
daily podcast. We'll talk to you guys. I'm by Macky

(01:03:01):
de your gold to him. I'm lucky, lucky still