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February 20, 2018 54 mins

In episode 88, Jack & Miles are joined by comedian Dave Huntsberger to discuss Black Panther destroying the box office, Fergie's national anthem at the NBA All Star game, the Olympic skier who gamed the system, Disneyland gangs, & more.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season nineteen, Episode one,
The Dirt Daily Sight Guys for February two thousand eighteen.
My name is Jack O'Brien. A Kay, watch out boys,
she'll chew you up. Oh, Brian, she's a man eater.
H Yeah, that was Those were my actual vocals. I

(00:23):
did not know others. No auto tune. That was all real.
That was courtesy of Jose Antonio Ray and I am
joined as always by my co host, Mr Miles Gray. Come,
come give up a graby. That some sort of skinnest
it is, but it's it's much milder form of scabies.

(00:44):
And that comes from Chapman. Rice A k A God
Chapman Rice. Okay, got Chapman right there. Thrilled to be
joined in our third seat by the very funny comedian
Dave Kunsberger. Hello, man, Hey, thanks nap snap snath. Hey,
it's great to have you here. David. What's something from
your search history that is revealing about who you are?

(01:06):
Very little? You don't do a ton of certain but
I looked at everything. I just don't look stuff. I
don't know how I learned stuff, honestly. Yeah, you have
that podcast space cave for you. Yeah, I asked people. Yeah,
they tell you stuff. Yeah, they tell me straight away,
like if I have a question, like your podcast is
your search engine? How do I change spark plugs? And

(01:32):
my guest this week is my mechanic. Yeah. I do
feel weird when I Google search something because I don't
do it that often. And then when I'm doing I'm like,
I feel like this should be happening all the time.
Usually it's had to spell a word or something like
I didn't know how to spell saziki last night, and
then so I looked that up, um, because you're making

(01:53):
some Greek food, and then looked up some of the ingredients.
So now I kind of know how to make saziki.
I don't know what that says about me. Yeah, well, famously,
you will not eat anything you don't know how to spell.
You've always said that, I've always said tattooed on my person. Yeah,
we never go to Ethiopian. I'm trying to think of
a good search that because of course, I like, there'll
be some name or a figure that I don't know,

(02:15):
and then I will type that and like who the
hell is this? But I can't think of a good
one recently you like to cook? No, not particularly Okay,
all right, we saw that. What is something you think
is underrated? Oh the show Detectorists? Oh yeah, the English
one with Gareth from the Office. Yeah, I started watching that. Yeah, yeah,

(02:38):
he's great. He wrote and like directs the show. It's real.
I bet the scripts are eight pages long and it's
just a lot of like establishing shots and it's just
real slow paced. And that just that as a whole
is very underrated, like calmness and just understanding things being
it's still funny, it's still great. It's really like I
think that's why I like the British bake Off. It

(03:00):
exactly like this makes soothing. Yeah it's funny because it's
still a comedy, but it still has that sort of
great British bake Off like energy where you're just kind
of like, oh, like I'm laughing and I'm also being
like lulled into a comfortable place. Yeah, so that I
feel like because underrated. Have you ever watched slow TV
like the they just put a camera on a boat

(03:22):
and like it goes across a channel for like eight
hours uncut. That's like the heroine the uncut of I
guess what whatish? Yeah, it's just like, uh, but it's
good to have on in the background. I've seen the
one where you take a train ride. Yeah, the train
rides a really nice and because the sound of trans
where do you find slow TV? It's on. There's a

(03:44):
bunch like Amazon has versions because it's like a huge
It's like a skin to Navian thing, right. Yeah, they
did it one year in skan Navia. It was like
the highest rated thing they've ever had. It was like
their super Bowl for a bunch of shows. What do
you think of this? I'd rather just watch the boat Yeah.

(04:05):
It's pretty cool though, because by the end of the
boat ride I think it's like nine hours long and
people are like coming out and like waving to the
camera because they were watching it and like it's going
to come by our house. What's something you think is overrated?
I think I like to look at the Twitter moments.
What is the population at large saying about this? And

(04:28):
the guy running down the escalator and falling? Have you
seen that one? People will be like, here's Kevin Durant
getting out of whatever arena and then it just shows
a dude like flying down an escalator or the hold
my beer line, or the kind of Mormon looking blond
dude who does those weird blinks. Reaction gifts drive me

(04:50):
insane because anytime I'm like scrolling through, I'll be like, oh,
there's like eight of these posted. All of them will
have like five hundred likes or retweets, whereas I feel
like they deserves zero. So unoriginal people rely on the
same six reaction gifts right now, it's unbelievable. Like so
and so says this, the next person hold my beer.

(05:10):
I'm like, yeah, that's been that's been done to death.
And I'll look at I have an insane amount of
reaction to it, and I just feel like I hope
their house blows up. I just can't stand that this
these kids. Man, you know that internet talk is taking
We don't even weren't even speak in real words now
communicate reaction gifts. But I guess, yeah, you haven't seen
the one with the escalator. This dude is sliding down

(05:31):
them that you're talking about, the one who he's sliding
down between escalators and epically destroys his nether regions. No,
I'm trying. This guy is like people are going up
the Escalator's two. It looks like it's in a stadium
of some sort. People are coming down on one side,
they're going up on the other, and he just comes
barreling down like he's fleeing from someone that's shooting at

(05:52):
him or something. And he's I think he's got a
sweatshirt or some sort of jacket like tagging on, like
dragging behind him, and he jumps, he lays the first step,
and then he just kind of tumbles down and plows
through a bunch of people. And so it really captures
that whole uh people leaving a scene in sort of
the most dramatic and unhealthy way possible. The other one

(06:14):
I just thought of is Vince McMahon walking into places
they go, so and so walking into their contract negotiations,
like and they post that I want their house to
blow up. Also, how do you how do you communicate?
Not at all. Yeah, I'm off the grid. I'm just
living a quiet internalizing everything just about the reaction gifts.

(06:34):
The Google has your picture on a thing. They're like,
we have to figure out the last man in America
because every everyone, I mean, it's such a natural human thing.
We want our perspective, our point of view to matter,
to share it. When you look at those moments, man,
and you realize there's like eight reactions to anything that
so when anyone's like stands out to you go, oh,
that's a unique take. Otherwise we're just like fish being

(06:57):
sprinkled food in and then the ones that feel like
the most important go right up to the top and
they eat the food and share those stupid gifts. And
I just can't stand. Great, great joke account would just
be to have account that uses the same reaction gift
to just react to like many of the top tweets
of the day and just always do that. Uh well,
I like those things, David. So now I'm going to

(07:19):
take you to task. That's fair. No, we are the
Twitter moments of podcasts though, So we are we are
we are one reaction gift. But alright, So basically, we're
trying to take a sample of what people are thinking
and talking about right now. And the way we like
to open up is by asking our guests what is
a myth? What's something that people believe to be true

(07:40):
that you in your personal experience and know to be false.
Oh I, I can tell you a few of the
ones that are fake, That are lies that I thought.
I was just looking at this magazine that has Brad
Pitt's name on it. It's William Bradley Pitt that like
he People think he changed his name to brad Um
because of like reverence for his grandfather something. But I

(08:00):
think he was named will Pitt and then the Devo
song got to be too much and he made fun
of changed it to brad That's that's not a real myth.
The second one, um, this one is I think this
is like just a common misconception. People say assless chaps
and growing up around like the ranching world were cowboy. Yeah. Yeah,

(08:22):
it's shops to begin with. Yeah, and so you know,
you're just trying to get you facts. If you go
behind the shoot at a rodeo and you say cool chaps,
you'll be people just start war and beer on you.
But you could be dressed, however, and if you just said, like,
I like those shops, no one would even blink an eye. Yeah,

(08:43):
they would just go ahi, thanks man. But the nature
of shops is that it is impossible for them to
contain an ass right then. Yeah, so that is an
annoying one where people go put on some asceless chaps.
It's redundant, it's a it's a double redundancy. Here's a

(09:03):
real thing that I don't know that necessarily a myth,
but I think scientifically we again have misconceptions about it.
When women are pregnant and they have all those weird
food cravings because the tendency to be like, oh yeah, pregnancy,
all those hormones. But really, what's happening, and this happens
in all mammals when they are pregnant, is the old
factory sense. Your ability to smell your offspring is connected

(09:24):
to a certain grouping of neurons, and your brain goes
through this neural ReGenesis where all of those cells are
brand new, but in the process of building, and it's
sort of like the construction workers kind of mess up
the plans a little bit. So as it's happening, you're
getting all these weird signals. So women are like, I
want ice cream now, pickles now, coffee grounds and it's weird.
So it's less about hormones, it's more that the super senses.

(09:49):
My wife is, uh, we're giving birth in six days.
I'm not doing anything other than congratulations. But she the
fainting couch red. Like her sense of smell is so
like extra sensitive right now that she it's like problematic.

(10:09):
She's just like I can't deal with this. Like when
we're driving, she usually gets carsick, but now especially so
just because like we'll drive past something that smells bad.
It's like it is like a superpowered set. She has
a brand new set of cells that are connected to
her ability to smell, and sells for smell. Her smell
cells your brand new, and uh, I think that makes sense,

(10:31):
like in an earlier time when you'd have to smell
your offspring or smell like if they had maybe an
infection or something. Theoretically, like, God, something's wrong here. So
that's what's going on there, that is I don't know
if that's a myth necessarily, but that's very interesting. I
don't know anything about this stuff. I think there's also
a thing where there's a certain point, whether it's I

(10:53):
don't know if it's when they're pregnant or when they're
ovulating or when they're menstruating, but a's on point in
women's reproductive cycle. They are extra good at spotting snakes,
Like when they're they can just yeah, I welcome to
our new show men talking about women's productive. But it's
really weird because I must have been like opulating or

(11:16):
men's tuating at some point because I want hiking and
Malibu with my wife and like a couple other friends,
and I was just able to spot these rattle snakes
like out of nowhere. They were like, wait, how did
you see that? I swear to God, the weirdest thing.
I like, suddenly I had the superability to spot rattles.
But I thought you said this is a thing for women.
It is, but like I, you can't. You can't ask,

(11:40):
especially a stranger. But even like you know, someone comes
over to your house and looks as if they might
be with child, you can never ask. But now maybe
you could say, yeah, exactly, all right, that's I now
sound completely crazy and not like a birth announcement. Snakes

(12:01):
Lady is seeing snakes alright. That that's actually how movies
should reveal that someone's pregnant, instead of like throwing up
like they do. Now. Yeah, every time every time a
woman throws up in a movie, stomach and the videos
where like grandparents find out they're going to be grandparents
and like, oh my god, we're gonna We're gonna be grandparents,

(12:22):
but this time it's just like sunglasses with snakes on
the winds. Alright, let's get into the stories of the moment. Uh.
We're coming off of the long weekend, the Black Panther weekend,
as we're referring to it as opposed to Presidents Day weekend.

(12:45):
I did not spend my day in reflection of the
presidency because that would have caused me to, uh, you know,
have heart palpitations. Uh. Instead, I saw Black Panther, as
did a lot of the country. It is currently the
third has had the third all time biggest opening just

(13:06):
in the history of movies. Uh, this is weird because
it's a February weekend. I like. Based on that, you
can tell that Disney and Marvel did not see it
coming because people don't put their monster movies in February.
February is supposed to be sort of a dead zone.
It beat the previous record for biggest domestic box office

(13:30):
opening in February by sixty nine million dollars. That was
Deadpool last year, which you know, they didn't think was
going to be as big a hit as it was.
But apparently they didn't see Black Panther being quite this
big because it is it is a monster, and breit
Bart is piste. You guys, what Actually they're not pissed,

(13:52):
so there. I think they're trolling people. They wrote a
relatively glowing review of the movie in which they claimed
that Challa the Black Panthers, My man. Uh. They claimed
that he is representing Trump and that like the everything

(14:13):
about his worldview is you know, maps to the Mega
movement and then uh kill Manger. Did I pronounce that correctly?
Kill Monger? Yes, kill Monger. He is the Black Lives
Matter movement. Oh wow, So it's just kind of wait,
so how do they say that to Challa? Is anything

(14:36):
like Trump? Like what is the not get too much
into the plot because I went to see it and
it was sold out. Yeah, we end up seeing Call
Me by Your Name? Very different, would you like? Some apricots? Right?
You mean cum quats guys in Uh welcome to toxic masculinity. Um, yeah, okay,

(14:59):
without oilers. They because of the protectionism and like nationalism,
because he's like about Wakanda that apparently they only watched
the first half because that's only his point of view,
Like he goes through a change as a character and
goes from this point of view they're ascribing to him
to the opposite point of view of that. They're saying

(15:21):
the bad guy has uh and represents the Black Lives
Matter movement. It's just it's a desperate attempt to sort
of insinuate themselves into this cultural moment um. The other
way that uh, you know, people who are anti progress
are trying to insinuate themselves into the movie is claiming

(15:42):
the movie is racist. Uh they uh. There there were
fake reports that white people were being assaulted at screenings
of Black Panther that we talked about on Friday. The
got completely debunked. Um. But yeah, it's just it's anding
you have to be sort of embarrassed for them because

(16:02):
they haven't had you know, they had a big cultural
moment when Trump was elected, but that's not a long
lasting cultural contribution. Like they really haven't had a lasting
pop culture contribution since Birth of a Nation. It's been
a while for them. You're if you're one of their

(16:24):
big supporters right now, and you only admire artists who
also like subscribe to that it's kid Rock and Ted
nowt it's terrible. It's not it's not the party you
want to go to, which makes sense why you troll it,
because I would be salty too. Those are like, you know,
I gotta keepe for these people, and I have to

(16:45):
somehow find a way to bring people's joy down about
Black Panther. Look, man, it's doing very well. It's got
a great critical reviews, and I think, you know, people
just need to let us have that, you know, because
people weren't out there picking for fucking Harry Potter, brit
you know what I mean, or trying to say this
is that. I mean, like, look, this actually like magic

(17:07):
and uh, I mean like from a strictly racial standpoint
right like where people it's racist, I mean for other reasons.
But yes, again, you know, just just let us have this,
you know what I mean. We'll go back to regular
schedule programming where white people will dominate everything. So but
maybe this is like everyone gets to have everything, and
there is always a small group that hates whatever. They're

(17:28):
probably people that hated the Batman's probably people that you know,
anything that's huge like this, They hated Deadpool because of
the world. Well, they're even black people who are even
saying this movie is not black enough, or saying that
it's problematic because you're like, you know, Americans playing yeah,
or even people trying to like, I know they're like
African people trying to throw shade at African Americans for

(17:49):
wearing like the chiks and things like that, and just
saying like, you don't play dress up if you know,
what are you gonna do after this movie comes out? Like,
how how about it? Are you after that? We certainly
live in an age where it is virtually impossible now
for something to just skate through and everyone goes, yep,
that was good. There's sure going to be some sort
of but sparking outrage. There are no modern day the

(18:11):
Fugitives where people are just like, yeah, that was fun,
all right and moving on. We just can't have the
fugitive these days. I think if there was a cool
white guy to go along with him, then they would
have been like, okay, cool. But I think because it
was so because it was Tim from the office, Yeah,
with the Fugitive, I mean, when he bails out off

(18:32):
the damn there's probably a number of there's probably forums
dedicated to it, and there certainly was a blog that
was like the force of that water and here's the
he would, but it just didn't get the exposure. It doesn't. Yeah,
and I think maybe that's even wrong to even say
that there is that much outrage, because if you really
think about it, like if you just distilled this whole
weekend down to one thing, it's just how great Black
Panther was, all this other stuff really is not doing

(18:55):
much to affect people's realities. But yeah, no, for sure,
it's definitely just a a glorious cultural moment for a
lot of people, and we shouldn't let that distract us.
There's also been really great pieces, like you were talking
about the controversy with African people, like in addition to
the really great reviews of the movie, there's been a

(19:16):
lot of really good think pieces written about it, like
which is you know, a lot of modern culture is like,
you know, the hot take machine coming, and uh, this
is actually you know, people are writing really interesting articles
that people should check out. Like Gellanni Cup from The
New York It wrote an interesting article about how this

(19:36):
movie sort of exists on the hyphen between African and
American and sort of h that the relationship between those
two things that I hadn't really heard people talk that
much about it was really well, I think one thing,
you know, for being African American, like we don't have
a idea of what African culture we truly have because

(19:58):
of the slave trade. But so this sort of nebulous,
sort of abstract idea of Africa and Wakanda is very
easy to get behind because it's not like people are
over here like I can say, oh, I'm Nigerian or
I'm Ghanaian or whatever. But what kinda sort of offers
this sort of more nebulous idea of it that it's
very easy to grasp onto where it's magical because I

(20:19):
think already a lot of people, especially me, like growing up,
I had a very bizarre understanding of Africa to like
had gone there. But this sort of I don't know,
I really enjoy how much excitement that it's giving people,
especially they sort of look back and like, Okay, there
is there is this connection to Africa. Sure, Wakanda isn't
technically it because it's fake, but at the very least,

(20:39):
it's having people sort of re engaged with the idea
of having an identity that's sort of separate from just
being African American and understanding that you know, we all
came from Africa at some point. Yeah, that's kind of
what Gelani Cobbins up writing about. How uh you know, yes,
Wakanda is fake, but so is the version of Africa
that we've been getting in Western literal for years of

(21:00):
like the quote dark Continent where it's like completely without history, right,
So they're reclaiming uh you know, Ryan Coogler and the
filmmakers are reclaiming Africa and African history by creating like
a counter narrative that's, yes, fictional, but it's just as
fictional as the one that has been described after So everybody,
you know, if you really if you really like Black

(21:22):
Panther and you're all about Africa, hey go to the
real thing. Because let me tell you, man, you you
got inspired by that movie. There was nothing more eye
opening than actually going to Africa for me. So my
mom is from suit which was born in Sioux City, Iowa,
and there is a lake Wakonda there, and I also
recommend going and checking that out. It's Iowa, it's a
little different. I think there's also a country club in

(21:44):
Ohio or something that was people were getting like we're
like spamming them with phone calls because it was like
Wakanda Country Club. There are a few Waka spelling is
slightly different, but what kinda does exist? All right, we're
gonna take a quick break and when we come back,
just two of my favorite bits of all time Fergie's
national anthem and the skier who gamed the Olympics. And

(22:14):
we're back. So NBA All Star Game was this weekend.
Uh did you like the game? I actually didn't watch
the game because it was not during one of our
TV breaks. We did. We did watch the dunk contest
the night before with my son and we set up
his little uh like nerve hoop next to the ball

(22:37):
and he was like so into it, like ball is
one of his favorite words of his life. Yeah, and
he's he was just like I was picking him up
and doing crazy to have like swag. Was he rocking
the cradle and like Windmilling? No, No, I'm like, we
gotta sign him, No, I was. I really liked the
dunk cock. Just shout out to Larry Nance Jr. For

(22:57):
respecting his father who had epics lamb dunk contest against
Michael Jordan's so seeing him do the same sort of
rock in the cradle side Wind miidle. Have you ever
tried that dunk? Did you ever like lower a hoop
all the time? It was my whole life as a
kid was finding hoop. We'd sneak into playgrounds where we
had the low like the kids, and then any friend
of mine that had like, oh my god, you can
put a broomstick up there and like lower the hoop

(23:20):
and that is the hardest dunk. The rocket to be
up in the air and put it back and then around.
It's a reverse windmill. Yeah. Well, and also like so
we used to do that we called slam ball where
you bring the hoops down about seven or eight feet
and just everyone's dunking on each other, like the greatest
past time of freshman year of high school. Yea, but yeah,
I think the only time to do anything like that,
it had to be like one of those small balls,

(23:42):
like inevitably, like a Notre Dame ball that you wanted
a carnival for three throws. Yeah, there were a Michigan
were the only two printed basketballs you get blue and yellow. Um. Yeah,
so that was really cool. Uh. Donovan Mitchell one, he's
the rookie. People are saying he should be the rookie

(24:02):
of the Year, but obviously it should be Ben Simmons.
One of my favorite dunks was by the dude who
didn't even make it out of the top four, Dennis
Smith Jr. From h Dallas, Dallas. Uh. Yeah, he did
like sort of a reverse three sixty that it took
him like three times to get right. But it was
pretty awesome. It was like unlike anything I've seen before.
But anyways, we got to the game and I missed.

(24:25):
I missed the game. I still haven't recorded. I probably
won't watch it, but uh, I don't care. NBA Okay,
nice try. Uh. But Fergie opened things up with a
rendition of the national anthem. We're gonna listen to a
little snippet of it. But it was, in my opinion, inspired,

(24:46):
but a lot of people had problem with it that
take them home. Boy. This is when everyone's laughing. Yeah,

(25:13):
this is when they're like showing all the players and
they're just like, can't keep the straight space hm m hm. Oh.

(25:46):
I thought that was yeah. When I was a kid,
that was what I associated with being the national anthem
is tons of extra notes, right. The Simpsons did an
episode once where like a person starts singing and there's
like a time lapse and by the end of the song,
everyone's asleep. Yeah. I feel like that was what the
old controversies used to be, like, just get through the

(26:07):
song in a showcase, just say that you have song right,
And I think the point this time is she added
like sort of a jazzy vibe that was like and
you know, some sexiness where she was making love to
the camera and the microphone and the flag and just
American history, which is got to be able to sing.

(26:29):
It was pitchy for me. For me, that was a
little pitchy dog. I don't know. The melisma could have
done without that too. Is very mellismatic performance, especially when
you win your yeah yeah, yeah, I mean yes, I

(26:49):
think it's commendable that you're trying something right and I'm
all for your artistic license and I don't really begrudgs
her for trying that. But you also got to know
the NBA is one of the most active leagues in
terms of social media, so like, you don't take risks
there because I mean, we will come after you and
collectively Twitter, I can't even the amount of memes that
happened within fifteen minutes of her ending the National Anthem

(27:12):
was mind blowing. Uh but yes, I think you know,
good for her, Yes, but it was fucking terrible. And
you're gonna have this intersection of reverence for the Department
of Defense and this seriousness of thinking. But then you're
also going to bring in art which has a large
spectrum of subjectivity. Right, that's gonna be a risky run.

(27:36):
You might have just play the same recording over and
over if you wanted to be sterile. I think she
just sort of went out of her wheelhouse in terms
of like a vocalist. She doesn't sing in that because
even like Whitney when she did the most one of
the most iconic versions of it, she just played to
her strength and just blew it out. I would always
love I Will always love you. People really should on

(27:59):
the Marvin Gay one, But now people look back on
that like that's one of the best ever. And I
think we're going to do the same with this. So
moving on, you you're gonna be telling your child about
I Remember you and Fergie changed. Um. I mean it
did bring America every everybody, like try and imagine another

(28:22):
news story that can bring America together about the National Anthem,
like that has not been possible for at least a year.
So right on Fergie Um, it was great, Like the
player reactions, everybody was like doing an okay job holding
it together. And then she had that last run where
she broke banner yet wave until like thirteen syllables and

(28:42):
uh Draymond just lost it. No one didn't laugh inappropriate.
I mean Jimmy Kimbell almost looked like there was a
camera on him and you could almost tell he was like, Yo,
don't put me on a camera, you asked, because you're
looking at me to laugh chance the rapper had to
put his head down and laugh to himself. So, I mean,
that's not a good look. And other musicians are laughing
at that. I also think they were kind of enjoying

(29:04):
the fact that she was clearly going for it. You know,
there was like a what do you mean by going
for it? That just taking her that she had a
horribly backfire. She had an artistic vision, which she executed
it extremely confidently. She when she finished that and said
let's play basketball, she was like, a plus killed it. Yes,

(29:24):
you can send the flowers to my addressing. That's how
she should feel. And the fact that she apologized is
such horseship. Yeah, she shouldn't apologize, you know. And her
her apology made me feel sorry for her because it
was like, sorry, I tried my best. I've always been
honored and proud to perform the national anthem, and last

(29:45):
night I wanted to try something special for the NBA.
I'm a risk taker artistically, but clearly this rendition didn't
strike the intended tone. I love this country and honestly
tried my best. Yeah, good for you, Fer, Yeah that's
all we could ask. That's why I'm she acknowledged straight
up right there. She was like, clearly this didn't work.
I thought it worked. It did not like if it

(30:06):
was looked at it she didn't respect the national anthem,
which then the players went out and respected the hill
out of the game. They played as hard as they could.
It's a silly game. It's a it's a funny, silly thing.
I think it's just a great American pastime. Though, is
micro analysis of people anthems moments where everybody knows you

(30:28):
have to put an event together and you have to
choose kid established singer instrumentalist you go with, or like
some someone with a really heroic backstory right, speaking of
micro uh moments that everybody analyzed. This isn't on our outline,
but I'm just curious because I'm just doing so. Is

(30:51):
Katie Kirk not on the Winter Olympics because of that
one Netherlands thing she said about that it's all Mike
Rika all the time. I haven't seen her since the
opening ceremonies, and like that was a big story in
the lead up that she was going instead of Megan Kelly.
Megan Kelly wasn't getting to go, and then they've just
given us Mike Ko the whole time, and everybody I asked,

(31:12):
they're like, oh, yeah, she said that thing about the Netherlands.
That didn't seem like that big a deal, o't. She
said that the the people in Amsterdam, the canals freeze
over and they ice skate to work on them, and
that's why they're good at speed skating, which is just
like not true. Like everyone was like, that's dumb, and
there were a few offs. There were a few Dutch
listeners who point out that, yes, you can't skate places,

(31:33):
so we're not saying that that was impossible, but pointing
to that as the only reason why the Dutch are
good at speed skating, but it seems like it's just
a thing where everybody was watching the opening ceremonies that's
like the one thing from the Olympics everybody watches, and
she said a stupid thing. And because things get like
over analyzed so much, that might be what's keeping her

(31:54):
off the Olympics. Well it's interesting because when I just
searched Katie Kirk Olympics, the last story was her apologizing
for implication that and they were just like them. So
I guess I maybe what they did was the subtle
thing where it's like, Okay, you're gonna apologize and we're
gonna shadow fire you, and so we don't. We're not
going to announce that you're gone. But it's people like
you who noticed now, like, oh where Katie, because I

(32:16):
didn't even notice because I'm watching mostly like on the
app where I'm just watching the events. I love Bob
Costas pink iy back. Yeah that was beautiful. Yeah, it's
just a strange, like Mike Treco is not a household name,
but they he is there like anchor who they go
back to. It paid him a ton of money to
get him away from ESPN. Yeah, they got to use them.
And they have Fred Rogan from the local NBC affiliate

(32:39):
in l a our sports guy. He's doing the national
so it seems like they were skimming for a lot
of Whoever, not to say they saw the ratings were
kind of lower than they expected him, like cut their
losses earlier. Maybe, I mean considering like the guy who
did the Koreans can look up to Japanese people comment
was just a dude who was in meetings that They're like, hey, man,
you want to go on there? I don't know, it

(33:02):
was pretty cool. Panic read a Wikipedia article before this meeting.
All right, so we also want to talk about the
Winter Olympics from the point of view of the skier
who gamed the system game or didn't games earned her
earned her spot on the Olympic stage to do what

(33:24):
is either my favorite bit ever or like a just
display of mental illness where we're in here. Had done that,
we would still be laughing. Yeah, that's the greatest thing.
She went. She tried to kickstarter or go fund me.
It got zero dollars to pay for her ability to
go around the world. Because you have to qualifying a

(33:45):
number of things in the top thirty she did that
just by sometimes just writing down, never trying a trick,
and some other girls would fall. Sometimes there wouldn't even
be thirty competitors, never been. Yeah, the most she was
ever in there were twenty people. So by default, if
she just makes it without falling, you're placing. So just

(34:05):
to touch on this, we're talking about Elizabeth Sweeney, who
is an American who was competing for Hungary in the
skiing half pipe event. And yes, she went down so unenergetically.
I've never seen someone drop into a half pipe with
less it's amazing life. And she fist bumps her coach
and kind of pumps up like here we go, and
then snow plows it down and gently dives into it

(34:28):
and just rides it like she's going. It looks like
or like anyone who is in this room who may
be proficient as a skier, but it's like, yeah, I'm
not working around that half pipe like I'll go, but
I'm gonna do my version. That's what she did. And yeah,
then people say, well, how did she get in there?
So the rules are to get in you have to
compete in regularly compete in these World Cup half pipe

(34:49):
events and be in the in consistently placed in the
top thirty. So she found out there's never even thirty
people competing, so by default I will always be in
the top thirty and if I just finished, because then
if you don't fall, you don't getting deductions. You can
at least maintain a score where if someone who falls,
they're fucked, and you can still kind of get to
that point. And she apparently was competing for Venezuela before

(35:10):
she switched to Hungary like two years ago, so ran
for governor against Arnold Schwarzenegger long ago. She's a megalomane.
She's the psychopath. Did she She legitimately did. She is
going to be the next like sort of gone girl
crazy story. And I think you just not because she
did this. But at the end, like we were talking
about before on air, when she waves at the camera,

(35:32):
that's such a psychotic move. Yeah, a lot of people
like this is inspiring. And to me, I know I'm
saying this before, it's like she's the Dunning Kruger effect
personified on the other side, where you have you greatly
overestimate your own ability. What is the Dunning Kruger effect.
That's where people who have a certain It happens to
creative people and uncreative people. It's like the SoundCloud rapper effect.

(35:52):
That's what I call it. Is some people have innate skill,
but they actually sort of like imposter syndrome where they believe, oh,
I'm not good at this, and they sort of retreat
into themselves and they might not try as many things
because they don't actually believe in the innate talent that
they have. The other side of that point is people
who think that their ability is much more than it is,
and it gives them like this sort of unstoppable resolve

(36:13):
to keep doing whatever it is that they're doing despite
what anyone says. Because the Dunning Krueger, I think that's
so right on. That's that's everything. That's also intelligence. It's yeah,
it's really everything that I don't just so I don't
get flamed while the psychology experts out there, I'll just
read the definition so you can be claud on this.
So it's a cognitive bias where people of low abilities

(36:34):
stuffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly assessing their cognitive ability is
greater than it is. They know so little, they don't
know enough to realize they're terrible, it's beautiful. And then
people who are actually good at the thing or know
a lot about like the sport or the uh focus
or people music. You've listened to everything, you know the

(36:56):
history of music, and you're so uncertain of like how
to I do anything that's original. Then they just never
do it. Someone else has never played, never listen to music.
Just get up there and be like this is good, right,
the best, And I'm sure with people were like, oh
my god, you're great. You're great, You're great, You're great.
That's right, you're encouraged to mediocrity. What were her phone
calls like after she went to Venezuela and just managed

(37:18):
to stay on her feet, like hey, sweetie, how to go? Like, well,
two girls crash, so I gott hey, way to go?
All right? Honey? Great? Um? But yeah, so all of
her quotes afterwards were like, yeah, I just want to
be an inspiration for people in South and Central America,
which is weird because she can work your ass off

(37:38):
to get out there and be dead last and make
you right. Um yeah, So I guess it's just mental
illness or yeah, but it looks like she could be
doing a bit like you like to think that. I
want to believe it's a bit, and she's just as
good as Stephen Colbert at like not breaking, Like she
just has been able to not break and say the perfect,

(38:00):
the insane thing at every moment um. That that's where
that's the reality I choose to exist in. Right, if
there's a documentary and this is like the next bore at,
I'm into it, right, it's her checking into every she
had to see some familiar faces and people like ya, right,
what I trained my whole goddamn life. You placed last
the last thing I say, And now you're sitting next

(38:21):
to the Olympics. You've never even peeked out of the
top of the pipe. You do not leave the snow. Yeah, people,
if you haven't seen it, like you really need to
go watch it right now. Because she's just the right
amount of perfectly mediocre at skiing that like it's perfect.
It wouldn't be as funny if she was any worse
or any better at skiing when just the right amount

(38:42):
she does that little one, it's so perfect. I guess
when you couple all of this, like, it is hard
to see this as a bit because it sounds like
you have the audacity to ask for a kickstarter after
you finished that qualifying run and said you were really
disappointed you didn't get into the final. I'm are how
And then also like there are a lot of people

(39:03):
who were like, oh, this inspiration, but a lot of
the people are really pissed, especially other Olympians who won't
comment until after the Olympics because they don't want to
drag her down publicly while they're competing. Because there are
people who really take this seriously and clearly she's found
a loophole just to make it. They're the best though,
is the announcers are incapable of referencing how still it

(39:23):
is so there, Well, she's taking it a little bit
steady here and she's going to be a little conservative.
They never crack, they showing the judges there, she's got
a little bit of style to r wow, so she
can stand upright. And then the reaction shout of the
South Korean fans who are just like considered their hands
are poised pre clap, like because they've clapped for everybody
who's finished, but they like can't They don't know quite

(39:46):
yet if they should or like what they've just witnessed.
And it's crazy too because it has all visually, it
follows all the tropes of like an Olympic downhill event
where then they come down triumphally at the end, stop
towards like the signage and then wait for their score.
And you just saw that and you're like, it ain't
no fucking score gonna Still there's not even that moment
where you're like, oh, what's gonna happen. You're like that

(40:07):
was bullshit, and she's still like, all right, that was
all right, that was something else. Yeah, if it is
a bit, she's a genius and most people have probably
seen it by now. There's a companion video that Miles
found that is her training video that's like a montage
of her doing like she's like ice skating or roller
skating and trying to do tricks, but it's like watching

(40:28):
a five year old who like just learned to skate
kind of Anyone can make the training video. Just put
your iPhone on slow motion video and just rollerblade and
do a one eight. But when you do the move,
slow that down as if you're doing a fucking trick,
and then just do that with some like powerful E
d M music. Uh. And also we need to look
at the cover photo of the training video, like maybe

(40:50):
she does kind of have that the crazy eyes. She's
a psychopath. She went to Berkeley and Harvard, so she's
like she's an over yeah, over chiever and probably like
very privileged and uh yeah, so it's interesting. So you're
your diagnosis psychopath just from the wave, just comedic comedic

(41:11):
gene Okay, so Jack comedic genus, David psychopath. I'm want
to go with the psychopath or the very least immoral
human who's just trying to feel good. Things aren't incompatibly either,
and she could be a psychotic commedic genius. Only time
we'll tell all right, we're gonna take a quick break.
We just took up the whole second chunk with Fergie

(41:32):
and the skier, but I have no regrets about that. Uh,
We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back,
and we're back. Uh. And we wanted to talk about
the story that are wonderful writer Jam McNabb Uh. Shout

(41:55):
out to Jam who was a new father. Shout out
to the all the young Canadian fathers, all the young Gating.
He brought the story to our attention last week Uh yeah,
I'm glad he did, so I knew that they're So
they're gangs in Disneyland. So like basically there are these
people who go to Disneyland like almost every day. Um,
and they started like noticing each other and they formed gangs,

(42:19):
and you know, it seemed like sort of I had
read articles about them where it was kind of they
had to imply all the similarities, like they wear leather
vests and they're like just like bikers. But it seems
like they it seemed like they were trying a little
too hard to uh you know, make them sound menacing.

(42:39):
Uh yeah, because let's be real, these are not gangs. Check.
These are social clubs with with gang clothes. Is there
an inherent like silliness involved? It's gotta be the names
like the Tigger Army right or was the other one
so white rabbits are white? Or now being sued and

(43:00):
land mermaids. So the guy filing the lawsuit is the
quote president and battalion chief of the fictional fire station
in Disneyland, like on Main Street when you walk into Disneyland,
there's like a fire station. He claims to be the
battalion chief of that fire station's talking about MSFS five

(43:21):
five Main Street fire Station Social Club. Uh, and uh,
that's a totally made up if you had a million
dollars one way or the other. Does this guy have
a Disney character tattooed on his calf, the calf tattoo,
I wage your everything. That's that's a tough guy tattoo,

(43:43):
the Disney calf tat because then when you go in
the summer and you were in those shorts. Bull, I'm
just wondering if it's a Disney character on the calf
or if it's the Dave Matthews fire dancer on the
calf and then the Disney character like on the back.
Maybe they're like Tableau coco. Pet I bet he has.
You know what he has? He probably has the badge

(44:04):
for the Downtown Disney Fire Statute over his heart, right
because he's never off duty. So anyways, Uh, this is
the victim of our story because after he put a
charity fundraiser together at the park with uh, you know,
his wife, who was also part of this social club.
And the social club the White Rabbits, the sort of

(44:27):
Disney biker gang, the White Rabbits, by the way, these
people like walk around in matching like biker jackets and
stuff and for denim jackets used. I feel like anyone
who's gone to I went to Disney recently the beginning
of the year, and I realized I didn't I actually
didn't realize how organize these groups of people were. Not
that I saw them specifically, but dressing up together thematically happened.
So now that some of these people are in gangs, right,

(44:50):
very frightening, right. So they're all walking around in clusters
dressed in like matching, you know, biker outfits, but with
Disney patches all over them, and when they run into
each other, they'll usually trade pins and like it's kind
of a harmless thing because it's not an actual gang,
because it's like the best case scenario that could happen
if you have a trust fund kid that goes nowhere.

(45:12):
It's either that or become an Olympic skier, right, yeah,
they it's it's completely protected. It's like he could go
out in the real world and get himself stabbed in
a knife fight in Mexico, or he could go like
have a fake biker gang that is just really devoted
to Tiger. And so after putting this charity fundraiser together

(45:33):
the White Rabbits, one of these social clubs approached him
and insisted that he pay them protection money. That's fair,
pay him the damn money. Uh So, in the weeks
leading up to the fundraiser, Jacob Fight or Fitte and
four other members of the social club called the White
Rabbits approached him and demanded he pay them five hundred

(45:57):
dollars in protection money for the event he was trying
to hold there. Uh And he refused because I don't know,
he wanted to bring down the wrath of the White
Rabbits and uh he threatened to fight, threatened to ruin him,
and uh he started making T shirts uh that called
him and his wife a fraud, and like went on

(46:20):
Disney Gang podcasts and like started talking about them, called
them scammers and Connor Disney Gang podcast They these sets
have their own podcasts soon and then we are the
official gang of uh. And they printed T shirts with
his face on it. Right. Uh So he is suing

(46:44):
Disney and the White Rabbits gang for you know, damages.
You know, it's funny the whole time, You're kind of
building this story up as if like some real gang
should happen. But really, in the end, the protection money,
who knows what was asked, and it ends with not
paken legs, physical assault. It's like, you're a fraud and
I don't make t shirts slandering you. So I mean

(47:06):
a credit to them because at least the gang problem
hasn't gone out of control. I wish it would have spiraled,
because I don't think there's ever been a recorded story
of malicious gang activity at Disneyland, fights between gangs. I
feel like the actual Disney cops would see the white
rabbits come over and start messing with a tigger army,
and they be like, all right, guys, alrights right, They're like, hey,

(47:27):
look at you. You guys are the thirty five plus
man like gang members. But so the they threatened Sarno
and told him he would never be able to visit
the park again, which is like probably the ultimate violence
to do to him. Yeah, like threatening him that he
can't go back to Disney. So I don't know, I hope,
and then he finally gets his Mickey Mouse tear drops beneath.

(47:50):
I'm sure they're tattoos involved. Yo. If could you imagine
someone rocking the three like the Mickey mouse Head as
a fucking tear drop tattoo. I love it like he
caught a body at the park. He's want of body
that do during fantastic Uh all right, well that is
our show, David. It's been a pleasure having you. Man.
Where can people find you? David Huntsberger dot com. I

(48:13):
um have a podcast called the Space Cave, and then
monthly I do a variety show here in Los Angeles
at the Copper Still called the Junk Show. Someone for
about that on my Twitter or um on my website
and on the Mother's Day Show last year. This is
before all the hoop law um. My mom was the
only mom there, even though I had said, hey, bring

(48:34):
your mom, there's like a two for one thing, come
on in. And my mom was the only mom. And
so I was like, oh, this is kind of a bumber.
If you want to get a mom hug on Mother's Day,
feel free to hug my mom. And so as the
show ended, there like the small line of people, and
I was saying good bye to people, and I went
to walk over to my mom and someone was walking
past me who had just hugged my mom. It was

(48:55):
Chadwick Boseman. And I was like yeah. It was like
real nonchalance about it. And I was like, hey, you're
a good actor. He's like, well thanks, look all right,
see you. I love your mom a mother hugger. Uh,
that's really cool. I know I should have asked him
to bring um a sample of Black Panthers show and

(49:17):
hilarious he told me something. Now, my damn mom isn't free?
Your mom was that's crazy that afterwards there was a
line It's like I wonder the people in the crowds, like,
you know, I'm gonna give one those moms because you
know my mom was notorious le aloof um and you're
doing a Mother's Day show again. Yeah, it's a second
Sunday of every month. So um, the four year anniversary

(49:39):
shows in April. The next one's on March eleven. If
you haven't being last year eleven. Yeah, man, we ain't
for that every year. Aim for whatever. Amber really is
the color of all of our energy? Guy? Really is?
I don't know what that means. Moms. Where can people
find whoa amber? Is that color your energy? Uh? What

(50:02):
was the question? Oh me? So is immediate? Yes? Hi?
Twitter and Instagram at miles of Gray. If you are
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(50:24):
sources for the stuff we talked about. Nice, you nailed it. Uh,
and please rate and review us or don't. We don't care.
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So please just give us a good rating. Uh. And
that's gonna do it for us for today, Miles, do

(50:47):
you have? I mean, yes, we're gonna go out on
Amber by three eleven because shout out to one of
the greatest bands out of Omaha, Nebraska, which is another
thing people, I don't realize three elevens from Omaha. But yes,
Amber in the frame, I mean goold, I mean listen
even to the harmonies in the chorus. Ember is the
color of your energy? All right? We will write out

(51:09):
on that and we'll be back tomorrow because it is
a daily podcast. Tuck you guys, I'm buying Rainstorm, take

(51:30):
you wave from the door. I got to tell you something.
That's what I'm in a song and then it goes by,
whoa Amber is the bell of your energy? Whoa chains

(51:57):
up is playing natural? You want to tell that? Chs
me if you're light through my headline to be and
the whoa I remember is the cut out of your
head che whoa if chains of gout display that's really

(52:53):
you remember is the cut of your head energy? Whoa
if chain So I'm gonna play that tlle you live
to bar which Remchael back anywhere? Don't give up your

(53:22):
hand ups? All right, nothing because easily tell you how
to find war and remember it is the color of
your energy. Whoa Janus playing that Tilly? It's a thousand

(53:45):
ships in my heart? So easy still this time from
the ball and you know war Rainstorm beway brother do
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