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January 24, 2019 68 mins

In episode 315, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Lydia Popovich to discuss McDonalds new bacon happy hour, the Sweetheart shortage, Trump abandoning a State Of The Union at the House for elsewhere, the Trump administrations annoyance at Rudy Giuliani, the support for Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's tax plan, a warning for our world and economy, and more! Plus the guys get a call in from Jared Holt of Right Wing Watch to discuss the Covington Catholic incident.

FOOTNOTES:

1. McDonald’s Bacon Hour lets you “put a bacon on it” for free

2. Nation braces for candy flirtation fail with Valentine’s Day Sweetheart shortage

3. MAGA Hats Are the Newest Form of Pre-Teen Rebellion

4. The Language of the Trump Administration Is the Language of Domestic Violence

5. ‘Trump, Trump, Trump!’ How a President’s Name Became a Racial Jeer

6. Trump abandons plans to give State of the Union in the House, says he will look for another site

7. AP sources: Trump, others agitated by Giuliani’s performance

8. MULTIPLE White House aides are 'handling Rudy's f*** ups' as Trump tires of 'cleanup on aisle Giuliani' – but doesn't plan to fire him even though allies fear he goes on TV after drinking

9. Poll finds broad support for Ocasio-Cortez’s 70% top-tax-rate proposal

10. The super rich at Davos are scared of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's proposal to hike taxes on the wealthy

11. Chilling Davos: A Bleak Warning on Global Division and Debt

12. WATCH: I Love Hot Nights - Jonathan Richman

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season sixty six, episode
three of their Daily Night guyst the podcast where we
take a deep dive into American share consciousness using the
headline box Office Reports, TV ratings, what's trending on Google?
And so she meets It's Thursday, January nine. Team, my
name is Jack O'Brien a K Jack to the Future three,

(00:20):
the Bad One that's just a Western for some reason,
and I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my
co host, Mr Miles Gray, Miles by Miles, Gray by Gray,
by trade, a fresh start over, a different hot tach.
Holy time will tell if we're second red, well maybe

(00:44):
better the second time around. Just so you know, those
step by Step and a lot of those t g
IF theme songs were written by the same guy, which
is why they all sound like really whacked blues songs
like full House and also Family. Yeah, anyway, thank you
to at Crispy Meme, Donut Christie, I'm Abucti Maine or

(01:05):
that by Step inspired a k. You know, Alan Sick
wrote some of his own teams really like which one? Uh?
I guess, okay did you write that one? Yeah? I
think that what's the growing pains one no clue and
moving on. We're thrilled to be in our thirds by
the hilarious comedian Lydia Papovich. Hello Hello. Let me just

(01:26):
say that was a breathtaking rendition of the step by.
Thank you so much for honestly, like some of those
high notes, like that was just that was beautiful. Like
you stayed in like a falsetto like head voice pretty consistently,
and I don't know if users and listeners at home
understand how difficult that is to do, so hats off.
Are you vocalist as well? I sang in choir from

(01:47):
like five till probably fourteen, and then I found weed
and was like this seems like always to yeah, and
you went from saying yeah, I was like again this,
I'm never going to be good enough. You grew up
in the Bay Area. I did nice. We were just
up there. Beautiful place, beautiful people. Yes, yes, I mean
those are all things that are true. Yeah, there's terrible

(02:07):
things about there too. Yeah, I mean like anywhere, but
I'm myopic and I like to bring my head in
the sand and look at the nice things. You know.
What's an overrated for me the amount of human ship
on the street of San Francisco. I didn't see a
single piece of human ship, a lot of comedians to
what neighborhood were you in? I didn't leave my hotel
room there. You also, if you were like within the

(02:31):
confines of like a safe comedy festival, I'm sure that
they had poop scoopers to make sure it was a
lot of I felt like a lot of tweets from
people around in and around Skyes Fester like had to
walk over p r poo and right, it's a couple
of venus like, and then Trump, in a letter to
Nancy Pelosi, was like, clean up the streets of San Francisco.
It's disgusting. Yeah, he needs to go there. I also

(02:52):
just feel like, also, have you been to a city?
All the cities are full of urine. That's why it's
if anything, our street right here should take the p
of Oh man, I've walked by somebody shifting into his
own hand. That's a good one. On my way into work,
broad daylight. Yeah, I lived in San Francisco for too
many years to count over seven. Let's say let's say

(03:14):
that is too high. Let's say I don't know after seven,
you're just like, why am I here? We're doing what's happening?
But I lived on Hate Street, off of Hate Street, actually,
and I literally saw people shooting like on a weekly basis. Yeah, okay,
where you're like, oh, okay, okay. I wanted to live
the dream that this was a large dog right right,

(03:36):
it is? It is not. Definitely there's candy corn in Yeah,
if he's lucky, if it's been a good week, you
know what I mean, candy corn. Usually the body will
process candy corn, won't it. I don't know. You're running
on crack. Okay, bo, you got just a cluster of
candy corn. All right, Ladia, We're going to get to
know you a little bit better in a moment. First,

(03:56):
we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we're
talking about to day. Uh, Mickey D's is doing the
bacon fries that we had been worried about for so long.
They are a coming, you guys. A member of the
Zeitgang got introduced to them early, so we all got
a sneak peek. And yeah, we're all gonna have to
live our lives knowing that that's out there. Uh, there

(04:19):
is a sweetheart strout we're gonna talk about that, so
the hard hitting news up top. Then we're gonna bring
in our good friend from right Wing Watch, Jared Holt,
and he is going to give us a little insight
into how the coven and Catholic story progressed over the
past handful of days as the right wing kind of
spun the media and the media let itself be spun

(04:43):
like a good dancing partner. And we're gonna talk about
just various Trump things, his response to Nancy Pelosi about
the state of the Union, his administration mitting their parent,
frustration with Rudy Giuliani, and suspicion that he's drinking before interviews. Oh,
of that and more. But first Lydia, what is something
from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Oh? God,

(05:07):
that's that's a great question. Um. I have several different devices,
so it's like, depending upon which device is probably what
I've searched recently. But I will say this, I opened
up a device that I used frequently and I I
didn't realize that Google is now just kind of suggesting
things to you based on previous things. Uh, something that
I am obsessed with, someone I'm obsessed with Dolly Parton.

(05:28):
So almost every day I get served like some sort
of news about Dolly Parton that I didn't ask for,
but I'm so happy that I got. So the latest
is that she is taking five outfits from her vast
collection of clothing that she has had over the years
of performances, and she is bringing them to Los Angeles
and putting them in the Grammy Museum because she's being
honored as a Grammy's Music care Person of the Year.

(05:50):
So you can go and see Dolly Parton's outfits if
you ever wanted to see just how mesmerizing um and
how defying of gravity in science her body is just go.
I don't know. I think she probably has to bring
her own dress molds because there's no way that those
dresses can be foot like on a regular man. Again,
it's it's pretty phenomenal. And I've seen her stuff before

(06:11):
because I'm an obsessed fan, and I've gone to Dollywood
and she has a whole museum that's two stories high
and the bottom floor is just full of her outfits
and it's pretty great. It's like glitter rhinestone, Bob Mackie Heaven.
It's the best thing. My question to you as a
Dolly fan, is what are you team that she is?
She covered in tattoos or she has scars? Why? She
always say so? This is something that I've been asked

(06:31):
about quite a bit. This is something that has been
in the Dolly universe for quite some time. Dolly Parton
does have tattoos. She is not covered in tattoo. She
doesn't have a body suit underneath there. She's not cut
Vondie walking around in a sparkly dress. But she absolutely
has tattoos. She's actually talked about it on several interviews,
and this past summer we actually got like a little
special thing. She was here in Los Angeles doing a
bunch of stuff and she was getting her nails done

(06:52):
and someone at the nail salon saw her and took
a picture of her, and she was wearing a mess
shirt and you can see the tattoos that have been
much ballyhooed for a very long time, and the cent
of her chest kind of going down between her breasts.
She has a series of roses and butterflies, and they're
subtle and they're small, but they're they're they're there, but
she has them in a place that she can be covered.
She's also hard to have an angel and I believe

(07:13):
another butterfly on the side of her rib cage. So
everything she has us covered, but nothing on her arms, no, nothing.
She just likes to keep her arms. She is seventy
three years old, sir, that lady alone. She wants to
cover her Dolly. That's why I'm always curious, because the
whole mystique begin. She always so covered up, like people
says bird tattoos. You know you you You're performed for
seventy years. You know what looks good on stage. I mean,

(07:36):
like dip yourself in diamonds, like let that light reflect.
But she has stuck by the long sleeve dress very
strongly as like not not a lot of people are
racking the long sleeve dress, and she's not many people
can twelve pounds, so sleezing at all times. So Dolly
Parton is like five ft three on a good day.

(07:56):
I met her and I was in heels, and she
was in heels, and she still only in to my shoulder,
and that was with full wig and heels. So she's
a teeny tiny little wiglass um. There are pictures of
her back in the day. Wiglass the best thing you
can see if you want to see like a wig
situation is when they did the whole Um was that
a LS the ice bucket challenge? Jolly Parton did it
and did it to herself on a wig, which is

(08:18):
hilarious in a wet ass wig. And it's gonna be
like the most casually we've ever seen her. She's wearing
a sweater and jeans and she's like at home in Nashville,
and then she dumps a bucket of ice on her
head and it is amazing. I love Jolene at half speed. Yes,
one of my favorite things. So many things. There's lovely
remixes of Jolie the amount, but specifically at thirty three on. Yeah,

(08:41):
that's just it's just funky. Yeah. What is something you
think is underrated? Lydia Um alone time? Okay, being alone?
I feel like, especially here in Los Angeles, everyone's got
this like fear of missing out. There's always a party
to go to, there's always an event to see, there's
always you know, and I'm a comics so everybody's like,
you gotta be out, you gotta be out standing around
watch other people do comedy. You gotta be with brand.

(09:02):
You gotta you know what I mean, and I am.
I am just I love being a Yeah, I love
being by myself and quiet on the couch chair. You know,
absolutely one percent. I'm from the same plan. That thing
just changed my life. I threw my back out over

(09:22):
Christmas and went into a spiral that If you ever
want to feel good about yourself and relationships and the
relationship you're in, yo, watch that show. Is I Can Do?
Is pre Set Possible? Did you grow up a single
our only child or do you have siblings? Yes? And no?
Here's here's it's a trick answer. So I have one
brother and we are eleven years apart. He was born

(09:45):
when I was thirteen, so I was an only child
and then I have a brother. You know what I mean? Functionally,
you grew up an only child completely like my the
way that I was raised, like my parents were together.
I had a mom and dad in the house. They
fought all the time. It was crazy, but it was
just me. And then when he was born, my parents
were the other for like another two years and then
they were apart, so he had such a different life.

(10:06):
So we both had our own only childhood and then
but we also are really close and have a great bond.
We went from like me being a second mom to
me being like a best friend. So yeah, it's great.
We get along really well. He's awesome. Everybody should have
like a I mean, I guess that's why the Big
Brother and Big Sister Foundation existed, so you can have
somebody who's like a mentor difference from you, who's looking

(10:29):
out for you. That's to someone who starts smoking cigarettes
two years before you. Let somebody gets something under their belt.
I mean, my brother didn't start smoking weed until he
was like twenty six, so I had tons of years.
I was just like, you had like a collection. He's like,
I just tried weed. You're like, okay, you can finally
inherit these treasure. Well this is how long it was.

(10:50):
It's like by the time he started smoking weed, like
weed had kind of got out in a fashion, so
he started smoking concentrates, like started dabbing, and I had
to be like, so flowers, And then I was like, wait,
dabbing is the future so much sense? Why am I
wasting time and money on we So now we live
in a beautiful world where you know, we dad as

(11:11):
a family exactly. Man, I wis had siblings I could
dab with, although shout out to siblings who are only
a couple of years older. I had a great older
sister who showed me, showed me the ropes because she
was probably mentally like five years older than me, though
she was only two years older. Older sister's rule, what
is something you think is overrated? Overrated? Almond milk boom?

(11:31):
Not a fan. There's so many great non dairy milk alternatives,
like like first and foremost, like coconut milk is amazing. Yeah,
And I also's probably a preface this by saying like
my only consumption of milk in general was like in
a smoothie or in a milkshake or in my coffee.
Like I'm not like a glass of milk drinker. Not
many sane people are right, because milk is for baby cows,

(11:53):
not for grown ass humans. Although when it's weird in Japan,
I love Japanese milk because so rich, I will drink
a fucking know what's interesting. I've went to Japan rely
for the first one wich to Tokyo, and I did
not eat any dairy. Oh I should have tried some
milk intolerant. I'm not a big fan. And I mean,
I can, I think with cheese have a but I

(12:13):
try not to, just because I'm trying not to. But
when I go to Europe, it's like all I eat.
I want to eat every thing that is dairy there.
And I'm just like, oh, butter, y'all have four slices
by itself? Oh what's this yogurt? Y'a'll take a pint,
you know what I mean? Just because it's so good.
But I never thought I should know. I'm not at myself.
Next time, I'm can make good. So what other? What
other non aside from coconut milk, Yeah, coconut milk, oat

(12:35):
milk for coffee, big fan, I turned my nose up.
But at first, but honestly, it's great. It's so thick,
it's delicious, it's frothy. It really does something with the
acidity of the coffee bean and turns it into this
beautiful lunch beverage. If you're drinking it hot, it's gorgeous.
You talk about a bed use of almond milk coffee,

(12:57):
it's fucking great. It's disgusting, makes all up and then
it also just tastes like somebody literally throw some almonds
in your coffee, which, like, if I wanted a Jamaica
fudge almond situation, I'd have it. But no, I just
want some coffee. I want it to be kind of creamy,
so that OHT milk is great. Um, I'm I'm team
oat milk and team coconut milk all the way, a
coconut milk froth. Get out of here, Get out of here,

(13:20):
all right? Yeah, okay, get out of Dolly Parton and coffee.
We could do some breakdowns. You have ninety days, you
know what I mean. I also watched Love and Hip Hop.
You want to get that drag race where you can't
get that in. Yeah, by the time you guys get
back with your espresso, steamers and cartons of coconut milk,
and she'll already have show. And finally, Lydia, what is

(13:44):
a myth? What's something people think is true? You know
to be false? Plastic straws are not going to ruin
the environment. US laying off plastic straws isn't going to
save the environment. Our problems are so much deeper than
a plastic fucking straw. The plastic straw is the new
like six pack holder from the eighties, remember when people
use that, it became this symbol for like be responsible,

(14:06):
think about recycling. Like every ten years we come up
with this one object that's like the devil, like this
is gonna solve it. It It was plastic bags, and now
it's plastic straws. Like open up your eyes, you freaking
cheap all, Like I just want to straw to drink
my ice coffee, Like a plastic one is what I need.
That paper joint gives me twelve seconds to drink my
coffee before it disintegrates into like a paper mache project.

(14:28):
Non necessary. So you say that in the sense that
it's one of those sort of items that people point
to as being the issue rather than addressing like a
greater use of plastics like an industrial level, right, absolutely
following on the consumer level to be like you need
to solve our problems that are actually at an higher
industry level. I mean, if we really want to be
extra real. And this is controversial because I just talked
about what a big weed smoker I am, but like
I'm also super annoyed by like all the new rules

(14:50):
and regulations around medical marijuana. So we're outlined and demonizing straws,
which is basically one cylindrical piece of plastic and a
biodegradable paper sleeve and or biodegradable plastic that maybe takes
longer time. But now we have medical marijuana in several
states and we have put all these things in a place,
so now we have all the successive packaging. So in
order to get your flowers or to get your concentrated,

(15:11):
to get your vape pan, there's usually two to four
pieces of plastic that you have to char through to
get to your product, and all that stuff is being
thrown away. So like let's look at the bigger problem,
which is the use of plastics. We could also talk
about like it on a much bigger level, like what
about the amount of energy that is like being put
into support servers that like handle all of our Internet

(15:33):
stuff and handles all of the data, Like think about
like the digital traffic on the plastic and like the output.
Like there's much bigger issues that if we really wanted
to make a difference, we should charge stwards. It's like
when when power companies utility companies like you, everyone should
be using those like those twisty light bulbs instead of
those other ones, because that's really the problem yeah, that's
the problem that Yeah again, so you're seeing because you know,

(15:54):
sometimes people take things literally on this show and then
would be like, you know, plastic, plastic is not a
problem problem to stop trying to put it on at
the consumer level when things can be done in a
much higher level. But you know, regulations are that's a
third rail word to some capitalists. And I also fix
it one straw at a time, and for me, like plastic,
I mean not to say again, yes it's an issue,

(16:15):
Yes it's a problem, but there are just other things
that I wish people would mobilize against with as much
verocity and ferocity. I don't know if those are words
that just mix them up with they do with straws,
Like let's make sure that cops don't kill black people,
Like let's make sure that, like I don't know, children
aren't raped by pop stars, Like let's make sure that
women are heard. Like there's much other issues and I'm

(16:36):
not saying that those aren't being covered, but like, yeah,
let's not try and raise trans people. Yeah, like miss
me with your straw crisis, Like I want one, right, man,
I really tried to make the paper straw work. Can't
I was eating paper at the end. You you literally
it is not a joke. You have twelve seconds to
drink out of that straw before it it's someone should

(16:57):
just step up and be like the Beats headphones of
the straw game with like your stainless steel straw and
everyone's like, oh, I got my my fancy straw. I
don't know, but yeah, and then everyone's sipping up bacteria everywhere.
That's do you know how we got plastic straws because
paper straws were trash right before, right, Yes, yeah, that's
how we got them. Like, if we're going to do it,
like the adult sippy cup is the only thing that

(17:19):
I've seen that's like close to coming up with, Like
Starbucks come out with literally like a little sippy cup
so you don't like spill onto yourself. Right, And there's
also the like metal straws, but again you have to
keep track of those, keep those with you. Yeah. You
know who I bet could make a really good alternative
to plastic straws is those giant corporations who are responsible

(17:41):
for destroying the environment in the first Yeah, maybe j
prioritize it instead of us having to do it one
straw at a time. You know, like they said, companies
are responsible for seventy one of global warming and climate change.
So but it's on us, yes, what I mean, But
that's straw down by. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Don't you use that plastic bag? Hey, speaking of giant corporations,

(18:05):
McDonald is doing bacon fry. We talked about this last year.
We we saw there were rumors very rabbid McDonald's fans
were like, they're testing bacon fries in this market. In
the past, this market has been used to test for
like much larger national rollouts of menu items and behold,
I think starting on thet those bacon cheese fries will

(18:26):
be available, and on top of that, they're gonna add
like bacon there. You can get bacon on like a
big Mac or quarter pounder. The only reason I bring
this up is to promote this. On January next Tuesday,
from four to five pm local time, McDonald's is having
what they call the Bacon Hour, where they will let
you add bacon to any item on the menu that

(18:48):
you could put it on a filail fish sandwich and
really gross your friends out. Apple pie, yeah, fuck it,
apple pie, mc fleury, whatever, anything. They will let you
do it, so you know, just to keep all you
stoners on red alert. It's happening, and it's happening for free.
That's a good like marketing stunt. Although it's weird. I
still as much as I like talk about, like, oh
that would be cool, I still need breakfast McDonald's. You

(19:11):
still only eat Yeah, that's like I haven't had like
a non breakfast item that wasn't fries and a pretty
long time. The fries are so good, though, man, the
breakfast like the cult of breakfast at McDonald's is something
that I have never got into. Yeah, it's like I'm
not like even as a kid, Like I honestly didn't
have breakfast at McDonald's until I was like in my thirties.

(19:32):
Like it just wasn't a thing that like I was like,
why would I want this? And then I had it.
I was like, okay, yeah, you want to start your
day off feeling like you have for me? With for me,
it started off because my mom's Japanese, Like, I did
not grow up eating traditional American breakfast food, so I
should be in fetishizing like eggs and bacon and sausage

(19:52):
like a McMuffin type ship. And then I used to
play hockey, so you would wake up fucking wild early
to go to practice, and I was like, the only
thing my practice would be over. It would be seven am.
And then then my dad would be like, let's get McDonald's.
My dad's black, so he was like And then from
there I was like, see this is what I like,
and I would ask my mom to buy Sage's like

(20:13):
I don't know how to make that. I'm not doing that.
So then that's how for me it kind of turned
into that. But I know people that are also just
you know, red blooded Americans. You're just fucking love this
ship out of it. And I don't know what it is.
If it's a convenience thing, if it's just like the
proper MSG and salt and fat is just hitting your
brain and the right you know levels that it becomes addictive.

(20:34):
But yeah, I mean, I've definitely like enjoyed the ship
out of McDonald's over my lifetime. Don't get me wrong.
It's just not something that like, no, I know, because
it's one of those things like the cult of Bacon.
There's very similar that's the cult of McDonald's Breakfast, where
people are like we'll just spill their blood in the
street from Oh yeah, for sure. I'm more fascinating by
people that are like, I eat a Big Mac every
single day for the last like nineties seven years. Like
there's some dude that is like eating a big Mac

(20:55):
every single day. Yeah, we're in Buffett eats McDonald's breakfast
every single more. And he's still alive and doing well.
Uh last I heard say he's doing well. I don't know.
I have a theory about like your body can be
like if you do anything in repetition, your body can
adapt to it. Right. So it's like if you had
five cheerios and you know, a bowl full of sugar

(21:17):
every single day, and you know, for your whole life,
and that's what your body knows. I think it would
be more detrimental if you're like the one day, don't
have that bullets. Sh Right. You had a friend whose
grandma like only eight hot dogs and drap in like
the last twenty years of her life up until she
was like, damn, honestly, I'm not gonna lie. I'm kind
of looking forward to that future. But aigarette, Yeah, man,

(21:39):
Like when I hit sixty, if I'm still kicking like
I'm not I'm going to do all the things that
I don't want to do. Anything like that I that
I tried, I'm gonna be like, oh no, no, guess what. Yeah,
you know, I definitely smoke a joint every single morning
before I talk to anybody. I'm not saying it's all genetics,
your choices, Ken, but at that point I'm sixty, like
I put in these good years, Like what else? Get

(22:00):
let's right out, let's do this. I just want to
while out into whatever I want. You gotta be asked
questions about it. Briefly, let's talk about sweethearts, because this
is the drought that absolutely nobody was going to notice
if we hadn't mentioned it. Nobody gives a shit about
these things. But those shitty pieces of edible sidewalk chalk,
as you wrote, Miles, those are not going to be

(22:23):
around this downin stuff. Right. So remember we talked about
how Neco Wafers went under, and I was like, good
riddance to them ships. And then so that that same
company that went under the New England Confectionery Company, they
were bought by Spangler Candy Company, so somehow they were
this company was like we need to keep the necho
wafer alive. But they said this year they are not

(22:45):
going to be producing the Sweetheart, which means that the
Bracts brand of conversation hearts has picked up the mantle
and apparently it's like a lot of people are buying
it because they're they're just sweethearts are very There's not
much supply right now, but again I don't know, there's
not some ships that I really ever looked forward to.

(23:05):
There were always something like you would get and you
would immediately throw away buddy eats those right, well, you
eat them once and then you're like fun you eat.
But these are very important to the second grade economy
of candy grams exchanges of you know, somebody just needs
to put out an article that so they have peanuts

(23:26):
in them. The fake news. This is some like that
other company wanted business to people. Give a ship. Let's
pretend that there's not enough, then we'll spur sales. This
is a lovely marketing spin and a wonderful job by
the Brax Candy Company and their PR department. And that
is what we're here for, to perpetuate the marketing spins

(23:49):
of giant food companies. So Yeah, let's say a quick
break and a word from our sponsor, the Brax Candy Company.
We will be taking a quick break. Hopefully this isn't
the X campaign that this ad is, but we'll be
back in a moment. And we're back, and we are

(24:16):
thrilled to be joined on the phone by right wing watches,
very own, the lightning rod of the right wing, the
enemy of the right wing, Mr Jared Hole, what's going on? Man? Oh,
thanks for having me. It's pleasure to be back. Yeah. Well,
I'm glad you know you reached out to me on
Twitter because we were trying to like just get all

(24:38):
the details on this Covington Catholic showdown in d C.
Where it was very clear to us what was going on,
and then suddenly the media took a right turn on
their coverage of it, and suddenly we were talking about
how children's lives were being ruined. Um, we want to
give white boys the benefit of every Yes, let's wait,

(24:58):
let's wait for the whole video to come out. Right,
although bathroom John had so he should have been show
what the fund is that? Anyway? So Jared, Yeah, like
you were you were mentioning, like you know, this was
This wasn't just some organic thing like PR firms were
hired and there was a coordinated effort to begin to
sort of spin the coverage of this. Yeah, if this
story seems chaotic or confusing or like nobody knows what's

(25:22):
going on, that is on purpose because whenever it's a
PR strategy, whenever you can flood the zone with you know,
bits and pieces and various claims of information, that provides
a solid foundation to build a new narrative. And that's
exactly what we've seen develop over what is it, day four,

(25:44):
day five of this story. And so, like it started
off with everyone just sort of initially seeing the first
clip of Nicholas Sandman in Yeah, Nathan Phillips, he was
playing his drum and you just see that ship eating
grin in his face, and you see all his classmates,
you know, mocking him and things like that and just whatever,
hoho and hollery and ship. And at first everyone was like, Okay,

(26:06):
look at this ship. Look at yet again another group
of MAGA clad young people harassing this Native American elder.
And then suddenly if people were like, well we need
to see the whole tape. You know, they didn't mob him,
he came up to them, and therefore this kid was
standing his ground and just being polite or whatever was
in your ground. Yeah, it was like and literally motherfucker's

(26:26):
were saying stand your ground. That's when I was like,
you lost me there. But yeah, so kind of like
walk us through sort of the evolution of how we
got to, you know, looking at this video to suddenly
people like you know, Whoopie Goldberg enjoy Behar and the
view saying I think we jumped. I think we jumped
too quickly jumped as Yeah. The Atlantic, the columnist who
wrote about it, was like, I'm gonna sit the next

(26:47):
outrage wave out you guys. I made a bad decision.
So yeah, let's talk about how the story actually evolved. Yeah.
So it was late afternoon after the March for Life rally,
which is a rally that takes place in DC every
year where various religious organizations and schools, you know, busing
a ton of kids and a ton of activists into

(27:09):
d C for a few days to fight against women's
rights to reproductive healthcare. These group of kids from Covington
Catholic High School in Kentucky were at the Lincoln Memorial
Um allegedly waiting on a bus, and they got into
this altercation back and forth, maybe altercations too harsh for

(27:32):
a word like shouting match with black Hebrew is realized,
which anybody who lives in a major city has seen
this group. They show up on street corners, yell inflammatory
things and seek to you know, get attention. I sort
of liken it to the Westboro Baptist Church. So then

(27:52):
incomes Nathan Phillips and some various indigenous activists that are
in town for the Indigenous p Foles March, and you know,
they get in between the groups. Nathan Phillips is banging
his drum and singing, and then you get to the
point where this clip is filmed. That clip goes viral

(28:16):
overnight into early Saturday, and media personalities watch the clip.
I if I remember right, it was about two minutes,
and a lot of them, you know, reacted to what
they saw, which was incredible disrespect and it was just gross.
It just felt gross, you know. And then incomes this

(28:39):
right wing you know, media PR campaign that you know,
is being ginned up by this PR firm in Kentucky
called Run Switch PR. And it starts with people like
Joey Salads, who is a right wing YouTuber who is
infamous for pissing into his own mouth for views, and

(29:00):
and you know, sort of filters up into people like
the Mike cernovich Is of the world, the Jack Pisopics
of the world, people who already have sort of a
questionable credibility because of involvement with conspiracy theories and outlets
like info Wars. They pick up the story and then
from there it gets picked up in Reason magazine, and

(29:22):
that is really sort of what lit the match on this,
and once it was in Reason, it shot up through
conservative media, and you know, with each new additional video
angle that came out, there were more and more cries
for reporters to retract their claims or to correct their claims.

(29:44):
But what's important to remember is no amount of additional
footage or content changed the facts of what happened in
that video and what people originally reacted to still stands.
It still happens. You know, really, this is just sort
of like a classic story of major media outlets and

(30:05):
you know, what we believe to be credible reporters getting
thrown off their game by a wide scale misinformation campaign
and sort of in the process, whether consciously or not,
granting a luxury to the students that you don't see
media grant too people in other cases, like you know,

(30:29):
most prominently when young black men get shot by the police.
The Yeah, I feel like functionally or even the contextually,
the only thing that I saw that changed was maybe
the idea that these kids swarmed Nathan Phillips and that
he approached them. But even in that context, right like
when they were like, well, we had to just sort
of like we were just responding in the way we thought.

(30:50):
I mean, even then, I don't even think that is
the decent way, right if you're if you're going to
objectively try and not avoid any kind of conflict, you
just walk away. But rather than everybody has their maga
hats on, they're all turned up, they're doing the chop
and saying all kinds of other things, and I mean
they're doing the tomahawk chop in the background that is like,
how is that? Mister? I am sorry, But whether you're

(31:13):
a child or whether you are a hundred and seventy two, like,
I think it's pretty easy to identify disrespect, Yeah, exactly,
And I think fundamentally we should try to like treat
each other which as much respect as we humanly can,
even when we're in moments of debate, because I think
debate is important, right, and you're gonna need to have
conversations about things that's decidedly different than being accusatory, being aggressive,

(31:36):
being disrespectful, being dismissive, and whatever package you want to
wrap around that. But like the bottom line is this,
Like they all had red maga hats on, right, and
like I'm sorry, but like groups of young white men
are not known to really be like great, well you
know what I mean in that situation approaching people of color, like, oh, yeah,
we're just supposed to be like, oh, these poor guys, Like, oh,

(31:58):
you mean the future torment terms of America, you mean
the next generation of oppressors and yeah, And you think
about the history of white intimidation against groups of people
of color who are trying to demonstrate or are trying
to protest, Like everyone was running all those historical photos
of how it looks, sh it has not changed, you know,
Like there's a history of this of people trying to

(32:18):
have their voices heard and then being intimidated. So I
think it falls in line with that and then this
idea that there, you know, I think what Sarah could be.
Sanders like, oh, how quickly we love to destroy a
child's life. You'll miss me with that ship because when
these kids are brown at the border and put them
up from their families, where is that empathy? What about Yeah,
the children cages that are dying because we won't give

(32:40):
them water because their parents are trying to make passage
for a better life for their children. It's really frustrating,
and I think there's a lot of you know, a
lot of people were instantly. I think the other thing too,
is we do live in an era right where we
have acknowledged that people are sort of bringing their own
ship to even looking at a given image or video,
And I think that that's why people were able to
play round with that, because some people saw, oh, I

(33:02):
just saw a kid smiling. Other people were like, I
know that shit eating grin because I've been on the
other end of that shit eating grin in my life.
And other people were like, well, I don't know, we
still have to see. And I think they were able
to play around with a lot of people bringing their
own sort of viewpoint to that and sort of missing
the overarching point, like you said, Jared, is that we
know disrespect when we see it, and this they're not

(33:22):
having their lives destroyed. I don't see any of these
kids they're being run out on a rail from anywhere.
If anything, they're being shamed for their shameful behavior. Uh.
And I think again. But but the right wing victim
self victimization machine fired up like real quick. H And
we got to this point. Yeah, yeah, we know what
the maga hat symbolizes. They know what the maga hat symbolizes.

(33:45):
This is apparently a popular thing for groups of what
high school students to do is buy maga hats, and
like there was a group that went to the National
Museum of African American History wearing it, and like it's
meant as a provocation. It's like a transgressive act. And
he's wearing it with a shit eating grin on his

(34:06):
face and not, as Tugger Carlson suggested, like a scared
look on his face. Motherfucker. P Yeah. And then to
that point too, he has a PR firm, right, Nathan
Phillips doesn't to uh Nick Sandman on the Today's Show
on Wednesday, and then telling Savannah Guthrie that he's not
sorry what happened. He just says, I think I wish

(34:28):
things happened differently. And then now that this has been
deployed as another piece in the culture war two, because
now I think there's rumors that like Trump might have
them the Coving too high school kids to the White
House or some ship. I don't know if that's true.
I've been I've read things like that, but of course
that would happen. Yeah, I mean the hat is a
symbol of Trump, and it symbolizes hatred. Like that's that's

(34:50):
just the point that we're at with this president. We
have an actual person who got into power via hatred,
Like there's no disputing that. And to ignore that, and
to ignore the fact that he's wearing a maga hat
in the face of you know, somebody who is there
explicitly because they are part of a oppressed minority, Like

(35:13):
just miss me with that ship about them like fucking
like needing our sympathy and the benefit of our doubt
they're being intentionally transgressive. Uh. And you know this is
this is a school by the way, that has a
history of just all sorts of weird ship, Like they
have students at basketball games where black face, like they said, well,

(35:35):
we have we have all theme nights. We have white out,
blue out, blackout, and so we're just showing our school spirit.
That's what they said on Fox and Friends. And again
when you have people in all black but you're painting
on a smiley face and eyes, yes, you're not just
blacking your body putting on black face. And especially when
then you go to skip the blackout. Yeah, slip the
black out your body white blue. Great, there's too much.

(35:58):
Skip the red out, skip the yellow out, skip the
brown out. Let's just do purple out green. I bet
when they're doing the blue out, they don't have a
big smiley face like painted on their face, like it's
a minstrel cartoon. Well, right, and again to like even
the images you've seen of them, like there were students
in black face, like just like trying to, like I

(36:20):
don't know, provoke a black basketball player in the opposition
team at a game. You're like, come on, and then
like you know, a lot of people, I don't know
how much of these anecdotal or anecdotes are true, but
other people have come out with stories of like people
who had gone there in the past and like, you know,
this is not really surprising for the school, right, I
mean you know, oh, I mean like this can all
like feel very frustrating, and you like look too media

(36:43):
outlets in this country, especially the big ones, and you
wonder like how this could happen. But the fact is,
like this thing, whether it's you know, the photos of
the students in black face get up or you know,
this original clip or various you know, other details that
are coming out about how these boys behaved at the

(37:05):
march or things that have happened at the school, Like
it's all very clear. But it's sort of a big
problem that we have in our reporting right now, which
is that you know, right wing causes are able to
completely manipulate reporters and change the conversation entirely and in

(37:27):
the process abandon all responsibility for anything shitty that's happening
or any problems in this country that we need to
have an honest conversation about, right It's happening with the
quote unquote debate over the wall, like now suddenly Nancy
Pelosi is being depicted as you know, just one side
in this debate over like whether the wall needs to

(37:50):
be funded and the government shut down, and you know
they're the Democrats not willing to entertain any ideas on
funding a monument to racism is now, you know, that's
just one side of of the debate. This is going
to happen in a world where you know, the president

(38:11):
himself is his name is used as a taught by
school bullies and people who are like harassing someone for
racist reason in a coming off a year where the
you know, white people committed the most extremist violence ever
this last year, so you know, ship like that's on
the rise. And also I think there also needs to
be just as much you know, smoke for these parents

(38:33):
and teachers too, you know what I mean, because like, yeah,
I get to a certain point. You know, when you're
a kid, you really don't know Ship, But also you
need that's where mentors, teachers, parents need to step in
also to make sure you know that fucking kids are
are raised right, learn the basic the like the the
minimum for respect. I agree with. But that's why I

(38:53):
call them the future oppressors of America because within their
constructs of their school and their community, they are probably
the stalwarts of the community. They're upstanding citizens, they're doing
they're modeling all of the behaviors that they're watching. They
live in a community that has like the protection of
the cloak of on accountability that Trump has been giving people,
you know what I mean. Like to your point, Jack, like,
that's exactly what people are saying, is they're going around

(39:15):
and being like, well, the president supports me, so why
should I finally have I finally have to stop pretending
that I don't feel this way. If if Barack Obama
was like, yo, smoke blunts every day, I would be like,
that's what exactly what Obama said, you know what I mean?
Like that, that's another other dimension of confidence what to
do or to have. You know, you can be sanctimonious

(39:36):
about ships because he's like, oh, well he's on my side,
is on my side. You know, all these little communities
that are very hatefield that have been you know, slowly
burning that oil, that same tallow that they you know
killed a while ago, are now pouring vats of it
onto it because they can and nobody is stopping that,
you know what I mean. But to Jared's point, that's
the sad part about how we talk about it in

(39:56):
the media. What we amplify the stories that we how
the spin that people forget how much money is going
on behind that, right, And to your point, you know,
I'm with you, Miles where it's like at some point,
like these kids are just kids, and I always hope that,
you know, instead of getting docks or like death threats
or whatever, that this could just be a teachable moment.

(40:18):
But we're seeing like the reaction here was not to
have a teachable moment. The reaction was to hire a
PR firm and run a media operation that they're using
to just bludgeon reporters over the head and gaslight them entirely. Yeah,
and let him go on today's show and be like,
I'm not sorry. I'm sorry that people are upset. I'm

(40:39):
sorry that it could have gone a different way. Hindsight,
I was standing my ground. It's like, and he looked
man like. He looks so like lawyers ran through all
the words he can and can't use the ship. But again,
this is where you know, when this kind of story
now enters culture war territory, that's when all this ship
mobilizes around it and we get a situation like this.
So right, and just speaking of the parents, there was

(41:00):
a mother of one of the boys who wrote to
heavy dot com and was like, it was shameful. Did
you witness the black Muslims yelling profanities and videotaping to
get something to further your narrative of hatred? So we
we see where their true colors lie. The black man
turned the black is real lights into the black were

(41:23):
already a problematic group. I mean, nobody's yeah, no, nobody's
like yeah, yeah, but they're just like yeah, no Muslims,
you know, I word buzz word, black mother. We love
fighting against that ship. They're trying to turn that ship
into their crusades. But yeah, again, you know, it's important
to look where everybody's empathies going because it's you know,
we've shown in the last year things happen when you're

(41:45):
just a white teenager. We can forget about it, you know,
Breck Havanon just like these beers and we can just
act like, you know, there's a youthful transgression. But you know,
this is the states of things right, all right? Jared
and uh, We're gonna have to have you back on
to discuss the Q and On stuff because I mean,
I'm very curious as to what people who believe that

(42:08):
Donald Trump is teaming up with Mueller to play this
long game to put Obama and Clinton and jail. Yeah,
I'm curious how they're like bending their mind around that.
And that's something I know you keep up with. Yeah,
I mean, believing in this conspiracy theory to begin with
already takes a lot of you know, mental gymnastics that

(42:29):
someone has to put themselves through. But as more news about,
you know, the Mueller probe is coming out by the day,
and you know, Rudy Giuliani is getting on TV and
admitting that he just loves to do crimes. You know,
this community is getting very it's getting a little weird,

(42:50):
and it was already weird to start. So if you think,
if you think, like what's weird for the weirdos, that's
sort of where it's at. Um. But something I've been
watching and track keen uh. They currently are floating around
this theory that Ruth Bader Ginsberg, who has missed a
few days on the Supreme Court for health reasons, has
already died in that Democrats are currently seeking out a

(43:14):
body double to stand in for her. So it's like
that movie Dave Right Sigourney Weaver. Yeah, that's what I
thought that was, yo, I don't know. I remember he
had those robot arms and he said, I once caught
a fish this big and it was like forty ft across.
All right, well, Jared, thank you man. We're gonna have
to have you back for that little Q update later on,

(43:37):
but yeah, we appreciate you with that for that little
update at tease. All right, we're gonna take a quick break.
We'll be right back, and we're back, and just a
couple stories from Trump World to check and on. So

(44:01):
Trump's response to Nancy Pelosi on the State of the Union.
You know, she said that there are security concerns. You know,
people speculate she was being a little trollish, but there
are obviously security concerns when you have what is the
five most powerful people, the first five people in line
for the presidency and government. Basically you have the Supreme Court,

(44:25):
you have the Joint Chiefs, and then keep for Sutherland
in some room across just keep us safe. Big comical
clock just taking away right exactly exactly. But so Trump's
response to her was just so funny to me because
so he shot back, there are no security concerns regarding
the state of the Union address. Therefore, I will be

(44:46):
honoring your invitation and fulfilling my constitutional duty to deliver
the important information to people in Congress. It's just it's
such a there are no secure It's such a small
thing because, Okay, the way any professional person, anyone who
knows like just how logic works, would be like, we
recognize the immense importance of the state of the Union

(45:07):
and the security challenges they're in, and like we are
working to make sure it's safe. To just come back
and say there are no security, no security concerns at
all the White House regarding the state of the Union.
Now take that, Pelosi, there are no security, because it's
what else you got. It's just such next level, Like

(45:29):
it's a good example of you know why people think
he's playing four D chess because I mean he's not.
But it's like it's effective because it just is so exasperating,
so throws you off. You're you're just like, what the
fund do you mean there are no security? I think
by saying something that's plainly not true, Right, it's like
playing chest with somebody and their move is just to

(45:51):
wipe your pieces off. They're like, this is actually four
D chest and you're like, chest you know what you're doing. Yeah,
you don't even understand how chess bashed my ship off
the board. Okay, Apparently Pelosi has responded and been like, well,
you can't do it in Congress. So there's some back
and forth taking place on that. So he's going to

(46:13):
do a State of the Union from somewhere, maybe coming
in Catholic well ship. I mean, I know this is
an important thing, and I know we want to but
like he's just gonna say a bunch of things that
we don't fucking care about. He's not. He's gonna be
like everything's great. McDonald's is wonderful. It's bacon. Did you
know that there's a bacon? He should have it at

(46:34):
Bacon hour? Like if you you know what I mean,
Like every and now everyone forget about these children that
we've killed, about all of our problems. Everybody gets bacon,
Like do you guys hear about bacon? God? Well, it's
actually it's what Stephen Miller is gonna write about immigrants.
It's really what I say to the Union is it's
not even Trump. It's just gonna be true crime, like
just stories in great detail about murders. Remember the last one.

(46:56):
It's just the eight minutes. I called it Donald Trump's
ad menagerie of villainous immigrants when he was like, now
look at this. Behold a family whose child was taken
by m S thirteen. Yes, it's important to keep in mind, guys,
that immigrants commit crime at a far lower rate than
native born Americans, up white males and red hats. Another

(47:22):
story from inside the halls of power at the Trump
administration is they're apparently frustrated with Rudy Giuliana's performance on
these morning shows when he's going on. And I even
said a couple of days ago, like when we were
watching the clips, I was like, he's drunk, right like that,
Like he just looks drunk, he's acting drunk, his mind

(47:42):
is working like that of a drunk person when you
slouch in a TV interview. Your Yeah, And apparently they
have the same concerns because, you know, some people have
speculated that it's by design he's going on and just
like throwing all this crazy shit out there and then
retracting it so that it softens the blow for worst

(48:03):
news they know is dropping later on. But it turns
out that the Trump administration is just like, man, what
the funk is this guy doing? When we're saying, wait,
what is he doing? There saying wait, what is he doing?
At the same time everyone wait, wait, what's he just
admit that we were talking about the Trump tower deal
in Moscow up until November and the Daily Mail, which
we've admitted as a garbage tabloid, it usually actually has

(48:26):
a right word lean. But it's added to my existing
suspicions about his drinking by saying that basically there are
people in the administration who are concerned he's going on
the show's drunk. My suspicions aren't based on nothing. He
said before that he can't remember if he had a
couple of drinks before or after going on, has been

(48:47):
spotted drinking at his favorite cigar bar before appearing on
TV later that day, and reportedly didn't get brought on
by Trump early on in his administration, like after the
initial transition, because Trump and you know, Pence were worried
he was drinking too much, and even other journalists were like,
I got a weird call late at night from Rudy
Giuliani and he was drunk, and like they'll put out stories.

(49:11):
So this is like a very common theme with with
the old mayor, Wow America's mayor. I think I'm here
for it, Like he's a mess. Yeah, I like that
comes because you gotta think about like white people drink
right outside of just like alcoholism, right like it starts
somewhere and it comes from somewhere, and you think that
like alcohol is an escape when you're desperate, when everything

(49:33):
becomes so unmanageable, you have to put like like a
veil over yourself in order to like walk through. So
like he must know, you know what I mean, like
where he's at, and he's just like fuck it. Like
you know when you have you had a job for
so long, you just don't give a shit anymore, and
you're like fucking fire me and you just show up
like whatever. You just like don't do the closing duties,

(49:56):
you know what I mean? You tell your man, you know,
you fux someone in the walk in with the door open.
You're like, like, what do you do you think somebody
else wants to run this grill at this hour? I
don't think so, Like I think he's just like, you know,
fuck it. Did I have drinks before after the cigar bar?
I don't know, who's gonna come take my keys? Because
it's more incendiary to step down and be like, I'm

(50:16):
not a part of this. I don't I have been
a part of I've been asked to be, you know,
adjacent to things I fundamentally don't agree with or I
do agree with, and I can't keep from telling you
that I don't not agree and you know what I mean,
Like this is just like a wild cry for help. Yeah,
I mean, people who have alcohol issues are not the
best judges of their own performance. That's when you know

(50:37):
you've reached that he thinks he is nailing these fucking
interviews or is he just knows he's fucking Remember on
one of the Sunday shows, he was like, I don't
care if it says Rudy here lies Rudy Giuliani. He
lied for Donald Trump. Like he was also like, was
he showing his hand there? Like sort of to your
theory that he's like, yeah, he's like I think St.
Peter will understand. I'll be able to explain it to St. Peter. Yeah.

(51:00):
Either that or he's got way worse ship that he's
hiding for him And he's just like, I don't know, man,
One of these two things, one of these eggs is
going to crack, and I don't know which one is right. Also,
how do you fire somebody who you're not even paying? Right?
That's the other amazing part to this dimensional story is
he's doing it for free. Yes, he's putting a shirt
on the line for free. And I wonder if it's
it must be that he just he hasn't been relevant

(51:22):
as the two thousand what eight primarians to become president,
So I guess maybe that's what was going on. Yeah,
or maybe he thinks this is the road to presidency. Yeah,
He's like, I need to show the American people that
I am completely in act and I need to show
them that I'm off my g D rocker. Yeah, and
I'm I'm an entertainer. Like this is apparently what they're into.

(51:46):
That's his drunk equivalent of dropping you're fired. You know,
it's just like I'm ship faced. You know, it's just
done something. Maybe it's a mosque. There's no plans though,
and that's that that's the thing. Just everybody's acting that
there is there wasn't. Most people are really bad acting drunk.
Miles is really good. You know, you live how you live, dude,

(52:09):
It's spend enough time around drunk people. And finally, I
want to talk about AOCS tax plan, just because there
are three stories. The three top stories if you google
AOC sevent tax on people making ten million dollars are
over the top three stories are from Bloomberg, Forbes, and

(52:30):
the Wall Street Journal. Uh, and they're the case the
case against Alexxandrea Cassio Cortez sevent tax rate, a seventy
percent income tax rate for the super rich. There may
be a better way, and then the crippling cost of
seventy tax rates. So it's just worth noting here that

(52:54):
there is support among registered voters for this idea fortent
among Republicans. This is a very popular ideal among people
who are not being paid by corporations that are named
after billionaires, like Bloomberg, Forbes, and then I guess Wall Street,

(53:15):
Mr Wall Street, Gerne. Right, Well, they're just named after
an industry that only God is making billionaire industry rags
for the billionaires. Yes. And meanwhile, over in Davos, the
Coachella for Billionaires UH is meeting, and everybody's shook about
this ship. They are really worried about how popular it is,

(53:38):
about how much attention AOC is getting. Scott Minord, who
is the global Chief Investment Officer for the two d
and sixty five billion dollar Goggenheim Partners, said in an
interview quote, it's scary by the time we get to
the presidential election, this is going to gain more momentum.
And I think the likelihood that is seventy percent tax

(53:58):
rate or something like that become policy is actually very real.
And AOC just clapped back on Twitter, it's wild that
some people are more scared of marginal tax rate than
the fact that of Americans struggle to pay for at
least one basic need like food or rent. So yeah,
it's just this is something we frequently or I frequently

(54:19):
find myself saying when political progress is made that it's like, oh,
somebody just decided to start telling the truth, for saying
the things that are actually representative of what people want. Well,
you look at this new wave of politicians who are
not accepting PAC money, who are doing only small ball,
small donors donations. They don't they are not beholden to

(54:40):
Wall Street like the last generation of politicians where who
are fine obscuring those numbers and you know, or maybe
just being like we need to help working people, but
not being like we need a seven percent marginal tax
on the highest earners. Yeah, you say vague generalities, but
meanwhile you're taking all of your campaign funding from these
wall streets. And to get I mean, just to give

(55:01):
you context, like historically the US has had very high
tax brackets, like for people like this like Eisenhower's it
was like percent, you know what I mean. And that
also who to thunk it coincides with the time the
middle class in America was the strongest. Is when the
highest earners are paying their share. And this isn't to
say seventy of what you you make is tax. It
says when you hit ten million dollars, okay, after that

(55:24):
we're taxing everything is oh you need you. You're really
gonna cry about your ten million dollars every right, And
then again, that make ten million dollars a year a year,
you know what I mean. I couldn't make ten million
dollars if you gave me ten million dollars worth the scratchers,
you know what I mean. But I'm gonna need you
to think more about your personal potential. If you don't

(55:46):
see it. You'll never make that. You know what are
limiting thoughts, you know what I mean. No, I have
a lot of resistance around money. As Abraham was saying,
you know, I'm trying to release those a young smart
man of color. I just I need you to believe
more in yourself. You're not gonna get that chat. You
look quite passing chest you I just no, you're right,
You're right. I'm getting that the m and then there's
other sort of man, there are other more mainstream stories

(56:10):
coming out, like a panel of economists was asked if
this idea of a tax rate would stimulate the economy
without hurting American investment or some shing like that. But
the way they worded it suggested that it would be
for people who made over like the current highest tax bracket,

(56:30):
which is SI right, And economists like, yeah, that's probably
not a great idea. So then people report it like
tax rate not so like there's a conspiracy going on here,
like American media, American corporations are going to fight with
every fiber of their being to shoot this idea down,

(56:51):
and it's going to require somebody with direct access to
American years. Uh, like the Daily Zeitgeist know, like AOC
to actually just you know, keep communicating the truth despite
you know what wealthy corporate interests want. Yeah. Or when
you think about again a stat that we were trying
to bring up last week about the richest one percent
owned fifty percent of the stocks held by American households,

(57:13):
think about that ship. Of course they don't want the
dollars after ten million to be taxed. Yeah, so again
another miss me with that ship. ANOC security detail needs
to be stepped up. Whatever the security. Yes, I know, man,
the way she's coming for these capitalist nets, you don't
think they're willing to just fucking, I don't know, push

(57:34):
her car off. All they could do is dig up
old college videos so far Yeah, with their shirt off
and a calculator like what we just made so much money?
At this money? I hope it was cracking, yes, But
if anything, I mean it's inspiring. Like I am I'm
my heritage as I am Mexican and I'm Russian. I

(57:56):
openly identify as a Latina. That's just who I am.
I was raised by a Mexican mother. For me, I
think it's really empowering to see her in office because
she is speaking about things that traditionally Latina women don't
speak about. Traditionally Latina women do kind of hold the
money in their household for like household expenses, but that
it's directly given to them from men, right, so, and
that's not an unlikely story for most women. I'm speaking

(58:16):
at women because I'm a woman, but I think fiscal
responsibility and fiscal health is something that we don't think
a lot about. And I think in general, most people
that are in lower price brackets don't even understand what
their tax bracket is or what the real impact of
that is on their day to day sort of living
in life, and the idea of creating wealth and having,

(58:37):
you know, exercising financial health isn't something that we're doing.
So I'm excited to see her speaking so openly about
these things because I'm hoping that will continue to inspire
people of my generation and younger to be a little
bit more aware, if not entirely more aware of the
power that your money holds, and realizing that there is
incredible power and knowing how your money works, know how

(59:00):
much you pay in taxes, knowing how to invest, knowing
how to save, understanding all those words. It's more than
just going to a financial planner and dropping something off, right,
It's about really understanding how to build wealth for you
in the next generations after and see those opportunities. Yeah,
it's so important. And honestly, if we're talking about communities
of color uprising and having more influence, that's what we

(59:20):
need to do. You know what I mean. We have
traditionally send money outside of our immediate communities. You know,
the amount of time that dollars are made and spent
within their communities before they go out to white owned
businesses is incredible, you know, So let's be responsible about this.
Let's try to make less ten million dollar making white people. Yeah, well,
I think and again her the way she's communicating the

(59:42):
point is good too, because it's opening people's eye, especially
as you say, even Republicans support it because I think
when you when you sort of take away the obscurity
of saying tax and say no, if you if you
mother making ten million dollars, and then immediately everybody will hell, yeah, yeah,
go for it at least and then help give me
some were leaf and my taxes, because I'm sure everybody

(01:00:02):
they always look at their paychecks and you see where
those deductions go and what you're like where the most
people don't realize that, like your tax parket is a
combination of things. Most people are getting tax between twenty
and of their gross income, you know what I mean,
depending upon where you're at, if you're married, if you
have kids, what your deductions are. So it's like more
is a lot, but it's not that much more in

(01:00:23):
comparison to how much more they're making. Someone's making five
times more than you. Yeah, and I mean with regards
to the ten million tax bracket. You know, those generally
aren't people who are receiving paychecks that equal out to
ten million dollars a year. They're coming in and various
ways where they're able to find tax loopholes and they're

(01:00:46):
able to afford you know, lawyers and tax attorneys who
are able to just you know, find ways to evade taxes,
shell game it, Yeah, shell game the ship out of it.
And so it's much more likely in that case, if
you're if you get to ten million taxabil income, it's
much more likely that your take home is way way
way higher. Right. Well, Lydia, it's been a pleasure of

(01:01:08):
having you. This has been a really thanks this is
really fun. Yeah, it's good talk to you guys. Likewise,
where can people find you and follow you? Sure? I
am online at hater Tuesday. That's my Twitter handle and
my Instagram handle. My website is www. Lydia popovitch dot com.
L Y d I A p O p O v
I c h UM has all my show dates kind

(01:01:29):
of where you can see me around town. Um. I
am at the improv most Wednesdays at Women Crush Wednesdays,
which is a phenomenal show of all ladies. UM. And
I will be on the road with Marcella Arguao for
most of February and March and April. Alright, check it
out comes. Uh and is there a tweet you've been enjoying? Oh?

(01:01:51):
I enjoyed all of the tweets from Cardi B this
week and all of her responses to right wing folks.
I loved her response. And I don't remember who she
said it too, but she was like, leave me alone.
I will dog walk you. That is the disavold disses.
I will dog walk you. I'd explained that to somebody.
They're like, well that you do not want to be

(01:02:13):
dog walked in. They have no respect, just filled me
with absolutely filled with me joy. And then I'll give
a shout out to my home girl, Marcella. She had
a hilarious tweet and I was like with her when
it was like trending that made me laugh. And she
tweeted a joke that's a great joke and people just
jumped on it and freaked out and I was loving watching. Yes,
it was so She basically said, you know, a friend

(01:02:35):
of mine, uh saw me holding a baby and said, oh, Marcella,
you look good holding that baby. And She's like, bitch,
I look good because I look good. You should see
me having an abortion. Breathtaking. It's hilarious. It's a great jock.
It's funny, it's lighthearted. She got she got oh they
always jump and watch her. I love that. I loved
the mentions more than the tweet. The tweets great, but
really the mentions are just I love the response feel.

(01:02:59):
And she was like me, when a joke goes like
triggers a bunch of right wing people of moon walking
with the shoe, it brings her great joy. But that
was just so so funny to me. And then the
last one I will say is there's not even one
particular tweet, but r A p A c p M s.
If you're not familiar with the sat pms, just go
on Twitter his Twitter profiles there and he tweeted in

(01:03:21):
all caps. It's all of the most ignorant things you've
ever read. But it's just sometimes what I like to
do when I'm feeling down is I just scroll through
yams as account and I just stop on whatever tweet
and I read it. It makes me happy. Um, but
there's like no thing to be learned there, there's no like,
it's the most ignorant Twitter account you've ever read, but
in all of the great ways that you wanted to
be if you enjoy rap music, well they just had

(01:03:42):
a SAMs Day with a huge lineup. Yeah, it was like, yeah,
a lot of everybody loves Ms. He was he was
a blessed, precious soul. So he was a very very
funny young man. So I like reading through his stuff.
So yeah, that's a fun one. If you just want
to escape everything, it's someone's someone's Twitter feed. That's funny.
That's alive anymore. Yeah, I mean, miles, where can people find? You?

(01:04:03):
Find me? Follow me on Twitter and Instagram at miles
of Gray. A few tweets I like one, uh is
from Daniel Coloa stand at the Sun Dance Kiss. It
says white girls, be like, oh mg stop, I hate
the word moist. Then say the N word us so

(01:04:23):
real to me. Uh. And also this is just from
David Carl. It was from Carl Tart, just a tweet
that I identify with. He says, Golden by Jill Scott
is such an inspirational, spiritual and uplifting song. But it
will forever make me think of hitting the strip club
before I commit crime and g t A four. I
don't know what it is about living my life like
it's golden m So that's my tweets. Oh. Also, guys,

(01:04:46):
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I don't even see a light bulb in here by
that march out, but we will be replacing it in

(01:05:10):
the next probably mid February when that page alright money
back mid February tweets I've been enjoying. Ben Rosen tweeted,
don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining. Okay,
I paid you to piss on me, not talk. Uh.
Coling Crawford tweeted, was the fall of Rome? Also? This
fucking embarrassing? Which is just a good question micro militarism. Uh.

(01:05:36):
Dana Nebraska tweeted, I'm a thirty year old federal employee
who's been on furlough since I received half my paycheck
on January seven. My mortgage payment and two car payments
are late, and today I was ordered back to work
for no pay. If I don't show up, I will
be fired. If you support Trump, I hope you rot
in hell so you know. And then my Lambett Finally, uh,

(01:06:00):
why does it always have the confidence of a mediocre
white man instead of make mediocre white men feel as
inferior as they actually are. Uh? Lift. You can follow
me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien. You can follow
us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at the Daily
Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page on
a website daily zegeist dot com where we post our

(01:06:23):
episodes in our foot where we link off to the
information that we talked about today's episode, as well as
the song we were at out on What's going to do?
Oh this is okay. So I don't know if you
remember in Something about Mary, there was like that little
Greek course of like the dude on guitar with the drummer. Okay,
so that is an artist named Jonathan Richmond. And I
only got into Jonathan Richmond because of Something about Mary

(01:06:46):
and my man. He is a prolific creator, has a
lot of great albums, but this is one I particularly
liked from Modern Lovers, and this is called I Love
Hot Nights. And he's just just rumping in a tumping
on that guitars are up rumping and a tumping, as
Little Richard says. That is from a little Wretched Little

(01:07:06):
Richard interview about Jimmy Hendrix. He said he would get
to rumping and tumping on that guitar like he's flying
on coketting that interview. Okay, Yeah, I'll play the clip
for you later so you can understand. But yes, this
will again and the words of Little Richard will make
your big toe shoot up in your boot when you
listen to it. So please enjoy this. Jonathan Richmond Modern Lovers.

(01:07:28):
I love hot nights. All right, we're gonna ride out
on that. We will be back tomorrow because it is
a daily podcast, and we'll talk to you then night.
Once I was tired, but now I'm fine. Was uninspired,
but not this time. Now I'm just glad to see

(01:07:51):
the harbor light. And now I'm just glad to roam
around that night. Who I love my nice you stay
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