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September 18, 2019 79 mins

In episode 476, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Teresa Lee to discuss SNL dropping Shane Gillis, Trump trying to court Hispanics, what could happen if Trump refuses to step down, Milo Yiannopoulos being kicked out of Furry convention, Sean Spicer's Dancing With The Stars debut, Pizza Hut and Kelloggs bringing us stuffed Cheese-it pizza, stream warz, and more!

FOOTNOTES:

1. Saturday Night Live Drops Shane Gillis After Backlash to Racist Remarks

2. Trump Cringingly Courts Latino Vote: “Who Do You Like More, the Country or the Hispanics?”

3. What Happens if Trump Won’t Step Down?

4. Neo-Nazis Are Tearing the Furry World Apart

5. Furry Convention Shows Milo Yiannopoulos the Door

6. Sean Spicer’s Dancing Debut Was a Disaster. He Made It Even Worse Once the Cameras Were Off.

7. Pizza Hut and Kellogg partner to create stuffed Cheez-It pizza

8. ‘Big Bang Theory’ Coming to HBO Max Following $600 Million Deal

9. A Saved by the Bell Revival Is Finally Happening

10. WATCH: Bacao Rhythm & Steel Band - All For The Cash

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season one, Episode three
of jo Daily Zight Guys, a production of I Heart Radio.
This is the podcast where we take a deep dive
into America's share consciousness and say, officially off the top,
fuck Coke Industries and funck Fox News. It's Wednesday, September eight,
two nine. Team. My name is Jack O'Brien a K

(00:22):
the News Ghostbuster. That's courtesy of the Roman King based
on Robert Evans's mistranslation of zekegost Uh. And I'm thrilled
to be joined as always by my co host, Mr
Miles Gray, my mom Dolly again. Oh byome Gang she

(00:48):
w get off this girl, say Rackers. I I welcome
the embrace of that bomb. And I'm sure Christi Yamaguchi
main does who at Chrispy Meme Doughnut? I called? He responded,

(01:10):
thank you for that, Lincoln Park a K. Keep those coming.
I will also still do nickelback. Um. You know, I'm
just feeling like many different genres for these decades, but
for now, let's keep them both coming. Thank you to
all of you, and thank you for the belated birthday wishes. Also, yeah,
you appreciate it. You're a big big nineties six years old,
nineties six you look amazing, na man, thirty five, thirty five,

(01:33):
Just like Prince Harry, I can't lie, you know, because
people already know how. They know how for old Prince
Harry is they know how old I'm Yeah, that's true,
and I am the Internet fact on the Internet Prince Harry,
as we all know, because the Internet lacks of Prince Harry. Yeah,
they really does. Yeah. Well, we're thrilled to be joined
in our series seat by the hilarious and talented Teresa

(01:54):
Lee Welcome, Welcome, and the Scarlett Johnson is Asian Comedy.
I was going to say, yeah, with your blonde hair,
I was like, this is a little problematic for me. Yeah,
appropriation goes both ways. Yeah, it really does. Do you
think you know somebody might do that's they're like, and
what about her hairstyle? Yeah, oh no, it's gonna happen.

(02:15):
Has there been somebody who's been called out for appropriating
Aryan hair? Well, people have been called out forting like, uh,
trying to assimilate. But that's that's more tricky because I
feel like that's called mental colonization because I do think
I remember you know before Beyonce with Queen Bee, but
she was rising as Beyonce. People called her out for
like dying her hair and lighting lightening her skin or

(02:35):
maybe so perhaps well no, but I mean more in
the sense of like people saying like, you can't have
blonde hair, because that's no, because most of the blonds
I know are who are white, are fake blonds. They
just like it's a lifestyle that they buy into when
they're twelve, and then is a lifestyle. It's a state
of mind. It's not a culture. How has your blonde
hair changed your life? Um? Wow, I am very rich.

(02:57):
Uh you're a rich Caucasian talking a woman people approaching
on the street money. Uh. You know. The one thing
that I realized when I did this was I didn't know,
like I've done it before, but this time it hurt
way more and I just have a new admiration, like
that it burns your head when they bleach your hair
blonde about where I was crying. I was like, take
it out. And the woman who did it, she was

(03:18):
a Korean woman. She was like, beauty is pain and
just like refused to do it, like she's it's like
she's seen it so much where she's like, you look
like you're dying, but I know you'll be fine. So
I kind of do admire people who are hot for
a living because it's I think it's very painful. I
think they're constantly crying totally just from like bleach, I'm
so ignorant, because no, I think it's I think it's

(03:39):
like how corsets are going to be in the future,
where we're like, that was just bad. I think we're
just burning our scalps and everyone does it and it's okay,
But I can't because the only the only thing I
can connect it to is that seen in Malcolm X
when he's relaxing his hair, and I'm like, and I asked,
my grandfather was like, what was that. He's like, this
sh it hurts right with the dot com? Yeah, yeah,

(04:04):
I expect to uh to be very rich by this
time next year or it will not happen worth it, right? Uh, Well,
beauty is pain. I think we've all learned a lesson. Yes, sir,
we're gonna get to know you a little bit better
in a moment. First, we're gonna tell our listeners a
couple of the things we're talking about today. We're going
to say a fund farewell to shame Gillis from the

(04:25):
cast of SNL. What a Run, What a Run. We're
gonna talk about Trump's very totally sound attempts to appeal
to Hispanic voters. Again. He we keep thinking maybe we've
got him cornered this time, and yeah, punches his way out.
He's a genius. He's a political genius. All the right

(04:46):
wing people who said that, I think, uh, yeah, we
look pretty silly. We're going to talk about whether the
president will step down if he loses the election. Milenapolis
Is is trying to be a furry. We're gonna talk
about how that's going. Sean Spicer uh should be, you know,

(05:07):
trying to be a furry somewhere, but instead he is
being normalized by Dancing with the Stars. We're gonna talk
about that. We're gonna talk about a new Pizza Hut
food innovation, uh, and the stream Wars upcoming creations from that. Uh.
And of course we'll talk about the o A uh,

(05:29):
the canceled Netflix show. But first, Teresa, we like to
ask our guest, what is something from your search history
that's revealing about who you are? Oh? Um, so I
googled what it means when your dog keeps sleeping under
your bed? Um when they used to sleep on your
bed because on rather than on top with you. Yes,

(05:50):
So he used to sleep on my bed and I
used to try to teach him not to, but then
he just did it and I was like, okay, and
then all of a sudden, he won't sleep on my bed.
He kind of like I feel I kind of feel
like it's like a you know, personal reject. Yeah, it's
it really feels like I'm in a loveless marriage. He
did just get his anual check up and he's fine,
so it's not a health thing. So I thought maybe

(06:11):
he was having some sort of emotional aversion to me,
but most articles just said like they might be depression,
which I'm not sure, or it might be um that
they just are hot. But it really, it really feels
like the way he's been like, we'll come home, and
now instead of going to my room where he usually does,
he goes to my roommate's room and her george usually closed,

(06:33):
and then he sniffs for a moment and then looks
at me and then goes to my room. So I'm like,
this dog he never scratches at your roommates store, because
that would be a dagger, right, that would be like,
please get me away from this bitch exactly. It does
feel like a very subtle emotional warfare. Yeah, I feel
like he's trying to tell me that he doesn't want

(06:53):
to be in this relationship. But I really don't know
what to do, Like do you give up a dog
that doesn't love you as much anymore? Is there no
like evolutionary reason for that? Because I always wondered why,
Like my dog always sleeps at the foot of my
bed and there, and I read that it's like a
pack animal thing like where they're just like my my
station is to be at the foot. I think, I

(07:14):
think that's what I've read, that I'm supposed to be
the alpha. Perhaps I did something that in his eyes,
she's self cut. So now he doesn't respect me, and
it's very bizarre. I don't have an answer. An I
think you've got to beat up another dog in front
of him, right, yeah, oh you know, we'll do. We'll do. Okay,

(07:35):
so he doesn't speak English, but well you don't know
that he is here, so I do feel a little oward. Okay,
Well we'll test this out, I will come and like
fake rob him on the street and then yes, exactly
coffee my eyes exact right, right exactly, And don't tell
your roommate either, because her, her, whoever your roommate is.

(07:59):
You don't want them to if you want them to
react as authentically as possible, so the dog knows that
you are the protector. Yeah, I think that's that's a
very good idea. I think I'll do that. So if
anyone wants to rob me um, I will give you
my after the show. But if that doesn't work, the
only responsible thing is for you to give him to me,
because your dog is adorable and I want He does
kind of look a little like fan they have similar y. Yeah,

(08:22):
he's like a less uh just uh looking. One thing
I think has an eye that goes in all sorts
of different direction. We I like to call that an
independent eye. Wyell, calm, independent, right, you know what I mean?

(08:43):
Not dependent on the other independent spirit award goes to
the thing I was thinking of. Remember in that piece
about what's her name, the callaway influencer Calloway, there's a
reference to how she would like had a bunch of
King Charles cabinets or whatever. And I thought I was
like all narcissists, that's our favorite type of dog. Was

(09:04):
it that she wasn't taking what was it the reference
you're like and like another king Charles, that she would
barely pay attention to it, She wouldn't pay, she wouldn't
take care of it, and other people had to deal
with it. Yeah. I also think like more dogs would
sleep under beds if they like thought about it, because
dogs it's more comfortable. Well, no, dogs like cave like

(09:26):
dogs used to like live in dens and so like
that's a comfortable thing for them to do. Comforting. Yeah,
it's not the fact that he's under the bed. It's
the fact that all of a sudden he Okay, I
think I just have to work on, you know, my
our relationships. Maybe maybe I should pass them around to
other friends for a couple of weeks at a time,

(09:48):
and then that way let him explore his options. Yeah,
or like us, but or anyway we can we can
talk about all kinds of ways to manipulate your dog
emotion later. Look, it's clearly something you did. I was
just trying to say, what is something you think is overrated? Oh? Um, gosh,
what is overrated? I think I think owning house plants

(10:08):
um and having like a ton of them is overrated,
only because this is a personal vindiction, because I can't
keep them alive and I can't do it, and I
was the straightest student that nobody else should do it.
I feel like I am a mother who's trying to
get pregnant. Everywhere, every team, there's babies, babies everywhere. I mean,

(10:28):
people are posting these pictures of their beautiful homes, beautiful
plants have tried and every plant head I'm I believed
myself to be part of the no plant can survive
under my care uh tribe of people. But um, but
then God decided to smile on you, and then her

(10:49):
majesty knows how to water plants. But I know, I
realized I was just terrible at watering plants. And so
now I have like we got alarms that we gotta
gotta here to to keep them or also like are
you trying? Like how many are you killing succulents? I
feel like I've heard about this with you. One succulent
I put in my bathroom. I didn't know, Okay, you

(11:10):
know what I was wrong? No, the succulent is not
supposed to go to the bathroom as to humans. So
that was my mistake. But every plan I've gotten, i've
also it's been like someone will say, oh, this is
a very easy one, and then I'll put it in
a one worst place because I don't I like buy
them from home depot, which I guess is not what
you're supposed to do because they don't apparently they don't
really know how to tell you what to do. But
I'll keep going under your bed, which is a problem.

(11:31):
Maybe that's what it is. He's like he's mourning his
sibling plants that have died. Right, Um, no, maybe I'll
give another shot. I just feel like it's like so
much heartbreak. I feel like I can't bear fern. It's
just hard. I can't do it. It's overrated because it
also feels like it feels like the thing I'm supposed
to have right right right? Hey, you know what fake plants?

(11:54):
I know they're gett yeah, and it's driving, it's e's there,
it's alive, it's thriving with dust. We have a fake
plant that looks realer than our real plants, and people like,
what kind of plant is that? What kind of that's
the genus? Right? What is something you think is underrated? Um? Underrated? Okay,

(12:20):
I had to let's see. I'm gonna go with this
one because it's related we you guess talked about yesterday.
I think robot Instagram accounts are underrated. There are bought
accounts that, like, you know, we all know about Little Michaela,
but there's a lot more. There's like, um, what's her face?
Bermuda is Bay, There's Bloco. Do you guys know about these?
I mean, I know Michaela and I know like her brother.

(12:41):
They're very much in the same vein. But I think
they're so crazy because they've really gotten down the tone
of the influencers. And not only like at first, I
think people follow them because they think, oh cool, well
just like it's kind of a joke and we all
in on it. But then you're actually giving them power
when they have followers, so they're making brand deals and
then you are actually just buying into their story. There's

(13:02):
one called Bermuda is Bay and she had like a
little beef with Michaela because they were dating the same guy.
There's like full on storylines and so she'll post stories
where she's like, this man is trash, and then she's
like sad, and then she's crying. And really, even though
you know it's fake, you watch it and you are
into it, and I think, uh, I mean, that's the future.
I don't know. I remember the first time I saw

(13:24):
a Little Michaela post, I was like, something's wrong with
her skin? And I was like, wait, too good. This
is a rendering of a fake robot intelligence that has
really sick style and has all white outfits. Well, what
I love about them is that they aren't trying to
hide the fact that the robots. They're out there calling
themselves like it's like bought culture, you know, which is

(13:44):
so weird. I guess that's was really wild to me.
I mean because I do follow Little Michaela. But the
second like the captions start becoming real and like they're
trying to create a narrative around them, I'm sort of like,
but how is that any different? Okay? I posture you
this when you look it, like you probably follow tons
of influencers, right, I mean people who follow influencers, most

(14:06):
of them don't meet them in real life, but they
believe they're real because they are. And then they buy
into their stories. But really, at the end of the day,
it doesn't really matter if there's a person behind it.
It's all through the screen, right well, because everything you
know through the through your eyes, you know, and this
screen is truth, or you can believe it to be true. So, yeah,
a singularity happening because it's doing exactly what a real

(14:27):
thing would do, almost virtually no difference except for you
knowing it's a bot. But they own that they're bought,
and no one like the three comedians that write for
all of them. Yeah, do you know people who write
for a robot? Employers? Plenty of people who have, like,
I mean, all these people, many people write that's my
dream job to write for a robot. Honestly, Hey, wow,

(14:49):
and I aren't. We love to write for root and
live forever, right, you, in fact, would still be mortal.
This is clearly I mean, Trusa obviously knows we have
a lot of robots who listen to this podcast. I'm
just trying to Yeah, yeah, if you have any need
for someone very talented with the written word, he's reach
out to. So the people who are appearing in her

(15:09):
pictures with her are like, how how do those shoots happen.
I don't know. I think there's a model. There's a
model helps occupy the physical space for saddles and things
like that. And then they and then they because some
of them are not good actors, and you can tell
they're like putting their hands somewhere that is just like
mid yeah, middle distance, right. Uh but yeah, sometimes it

(15:32):
looks fairly seamless, like yeah, how do we get this?
Mikayla and daily keep reaching out to her people. Uh,
what is a myth? What's something people think it's true?
You know to be false? Um, Okay, I'm not gonna
like originally I did want it. I'm not going to
talk about robots, but I just need to put that
out there that my myth was going to be robot
But you guys talked about it yesterday, so I'm gonna

(15:54):
do another one. Um, your myth was gonna be robots.
Not know that all men are freaking out about robots
killing them and it's not not the real fear. They're
just afraid of not being powerful. Um, because robots are
going to kill you. We created robots like you. If
you create a robot that kills you, it will kill you.
But you're creating it. Anyways, I'm not gonna get into that,

(16:14):
but um my myth is Okay, So I'm dating a
couple right now. It's a man and a woman, and
I've never dated a couple before, and I feel like
there's a myth that when it's like a guy and
two girls having sex, it's like a fantasy, but in reality,
it's usually like the two more about two women and
they most of the time we're just kind of like
laughing at him and uh. And I think that that

(16:41):
like would deter a lot of men from objectifying women
and wanting to get into reisims, and also encourage more
women who like women to get into the situations because
it's really fun to be like, look at another woman,
be like that was ridiculous. Okay, he's gonna go over
there and hang out because he's already he's tapped out,
and well, yeah, take do you five, make us a sandwich?

(17:01):
Will see you there? You go after they how long
have you been in this? Well, we're not serious. I
wouldn't call it a throuble. They are a couple and
we're I'm casually dating that, so like about two months exclusive? No, yeah, sorry,
like getting your business like the concerned mom. Are they
seeing other people? Just my little baby? Everything is every Yeah,

(17:23):
everything is very communicate, cative and nice. Um. But yeah,
I just think that's something I didn't expect and I
didn't ever think I wanted to be able to just
like have like a you know, an ally in a
in a situation where you're having sex with a man,
right in real time. You get this having a text
to someone like I'm not gonna believe that's really and

(17:46):
it's fine. He takes it in good fun like I
feel like you should, right, I think that's the only
way that kind of a relationship about yourself. Yeah, yeah, right, exactly.
Damn uh. All right, let's talk about Shane Gillis's speaking
of having a sense of humor about yourself. So the
second the second this came out, just the video of

(18:07):
him being incredibly racist, I immediately said to Miles, how
long till this dude is like an alt right comic,
because it's it's going to take a little bit because
he has a weird hand to play, right he There's
maybe a chance he could re enter mainstream comedy if
he tried, if he actually showed some kind of growth
or repented, but that doesn't look likely, So then he's

(18:29):
going to have to become very sullen. I don't know
if he's at the requisite darkness to full on embrace
the to become an all right hero. He's probably just
gonna I feel like he's gonna get a much bigger
fan base out of this. He's going to be able
to just appeal to his fans, and I don't think
he's going to grow because of this. I mean, it's
very unfortunate the way it all came out, because it's
like they should they should have just done their research.

(18:50):
Like I just think Twitter outrage sucks, but now knowing
what I know about him, Like, yeah, I know that
guy shouldn't be on TV, but why did that have
to happen through Twitter thongs? Yeah? Yeah, well, I mean look,
depending on who who you get your comedy takes from. Uh,
there's like a really like so many people have either
come to just drill, like just flame this dude, or

(19:12):
to put on their cape and protect him. Rob Schneider
is very notably recently was like, yeah, man, sorry for
these comedic missteps or something like that. He's like, it's
unfortunate that some communic missteps like no, no, no, sir,
he's Asian, but didn't he do like yellow face too?
Like yeah, yeah, but and here's the thing with like
Rob Schneider. I understand that he's maybe a quarter philip

(19:33):
he's he's Filipino, but like that's the sort of thing
right when you have like sort of internalized white supremacy.
It's the same way when I was a kid, I
would do jokes that played on me being Asian or
black to make my white friends laugh because they had
a very one dimensional understanding of what it meant to
be black or Asian. And then over time you sort
of get disgusted with yourself or if you have the

(19:53):
wherewithal to understanding like I'm performing for the dominant culture.
I'm not performing to empower myself. I'm be liddling myself.
It's a curry favor with the dominant culture. It's Andrew Yang.
That's what we were talking about with him when being like, well,
you know, I'm an Asian, so I know doctors or
I'm an Asian blah blah. It's like, fam if you
do that in front of all Asian audience, say like
this is tired. You can't do that, especially if you're

(20:15):
running for presidency, because there are people who actually do
think that. I think that's a tricky thing. As he
comes from a culture, he's like comfortable enough to make
those jokes to like lighten the mood if he's with
people who get it, and he's just trying to call
out a stereotype. But I feel like when you you,
you just have to let that go because it's a stereotype.
So if you're even you can't just be like, and
that's the good stereotype you guys think it's just like,
that's still you're speaking to people who think that then,

(20:38):
and that's bad. Yeah, it's a good way for him
to break the ice in a room full of middle
aged white businessman and oh good, he's good. He's cool
with like racism. Yeah, essentially, you know what I mean.
And then again, do you want to read yeah? Read? Well,
First of all, we I guess we didn't specifically say
she got fired from Yeah. Yeah. So SNL statement is

(21:06):
they decided he will not be joining the SNL cast.
He had an impressive audition. We're not aware of his
prior remarks about the story. Media take here of the
language he used as offensive, hurtful, and unacceptable. We're sorry
that we did not see these clips earlier and that
our vetting process was not up to our standards. So offensive, hurtful,

(21:27):
and unacceptable language. Don't say racist. Yes, yes, that's the thing.
When people say, um oh, he's just saying what people
are thinking. That not mean he's just saying what racists
are thinking. Like I don't think that every every every
take I've seen from a comedian trying to defend it
is not like one that actually acknowledges that racism is bad.
Like the his viewpoint is racist, that's not it's not

(21:49):
that he's making a joke. It's that it's a race, right.
It's like, well, he's pushing the boundary. What the boundary of,
like what's acceptable discourse between human beings? Because I did
not see a joke there. Yeah, So anyways, Rob Schneider's
we it was Dear Shane, Dear Shane m gillis, As
a former SNL cast member, I am sorry that you
had the misfortune of being a cast member during this

(22:10):
era of cultural unforgiveness, where comedic misfires are subject to
the intolerable inquisition of those who never risked bombing on
stage themselves. First of all, I'm not on stage, definitely
not a joke, and he wasn't bombing. He was on
his podcast laughing with his friend. Yeah exactly, and comedic misfire,
no rhetorical misfire, and just in just in your general humanity.

(22:33):
And I think there's something too. Even the comments on
that thread were interesting, where obviously have the people being like, yeah, man,
PC culture is ruining comedy coming from the people who
truly understand comedy, uh, but then also to like, you
do realize that a lot of it that commedy. I
feel like comedians who are like coming to his defense
in the most you know, aggressive way. Are people who

(22:54):
see that Oh wait, I think this is like what
he said I thought is comedy, and if isn't, then
who am I. Yeah, they're freaking out because they're like
I think if they laughed along with it, then they're like,
oh ship, if you can get canceled for saying this,
that means I can't think this right and what now
I can't do my whole like these are the These
are the accents I grew up hearing in my town

(23:16):
from my cleaning ladies, like type it and you're like,
what where is this going? Zach Bizard had a funny
tweet he was like, oh, now that they fired change Gels,
who's going to play the Asian characters? Shoo Unfortunately, And
I think it's like a victim of all this too,
because now you know, well hopefully, you know, like we'll
move this ship burn along and get to the real

(23:37):
business one to see. Also, the Rob Schneider thing is
just an example of like he I remember the first
time he was raging against the machine was when like
somebody wrote a mean review of The Hot Chick or
like Douce Biggelow two, And that's when, right, yeah, she
was actually but now he's like suddenly the free speed spokesperson.

(24:01):
Because that's a thing I was noticing when like this
writer for some right wing site was like the last
real rebels in today's media are and like was listing
like Dave Chappelle. It was just people who have like
been criticized by the mainstream media, and like that's sort
of a version of this. If the mainstream media or

(24:25):
like the mainstream culture rejects you, then you automatically become
this like lionized figure. Yeah, I'm very curious where he
goes after this, because I don't like any of the
stuff he said, and I also am like, I'm glad
he's not gonna be on the show. But I some
of the like crazy outrage where people were um just
like the idea of canceling someone on the day they

(24:45):
get a job, and like going back and looking at
their tweets, I do feel like that's like a crazy
thing to do. It's like someone gets hired, let's look
for something. So I do agree with comedians criticizing that,
but I think there's like a discernment. I think there's
some comedians who are so afraid of UM who haven't
said anything wrong, that just here that and like what
if I get canceled, And it's like you won't because
you don't think those bad things. So those people who

(25:07):
are freaking out end up sounding a little silly when
they're defending him. But I do understand where they're coming from, well,
or at least that desire to immediately sort of find
a reason to like disqualify someone from something. But I
think at this point the problem with him is he
had a lot of momentum building up going into this
in May, he was using racial slurs to talk about
Andrew Yang. He this ship came from a year ago

(25:30):
Chris Getherd, like he was already on Chris Getherd's radar
for using slurs and ship. So it's funny because a
lot of people already knew. So in that way, it's
almost like it's not even that like they were waiting
to cancel. It's like the second day showed up to like,
you mean this dude we all knew was a piece
of ship. Yeah, people in the comedy community. I didn't
know him at all, but people from Philly has said
like he was an asshole to begin with. There was

(25:51):
a he said something about like that. I think is
um interesting to hear because I've I've heard that like
in a certain comedy circles and I just like being
in l A. It's we're very sheltered. But he said,
like Asian people are the only group you can still
make fun of. And I've heard that from other people
in like less you know, whatever woke areas. And I

(26:12):
there was a moment when I was civilized. Yeah, there's
a moment um when I was an improv one on
one that I still remember. It and I chalked it
up to my teacher for this, because he would do
a lot of characters and purposefully, within improv you can
kind of like just have fun. He would purposefully do
caricatures and and one time I went to the show
and he came up to me, He's like, okay, I'm

(26:33):
doing a Asian accent. I just want to let you
know he's white. And he was like, so, I hope
it's okay. And I was like, okay, whatever, and I
watched and I was like, it's fine. But it was
a good moment for me because I realized he probably
doesn't see very many Asian people in his audience, and
the fact that I was there and he knew me,
he had to think about it. And I think that
was the moment he was like, I wonder if it
is okay. I don't know if it's okay, but let

(26:55):
me tell Teresa. I felt okay because I know him
and him talking to me and made you feel good
and not alienated. But it did made me think. Probably
from that moment on he thought a little bit more
about that, because would you how would you feel now
if someone said, Hi, I'm going to do this just weird, uh,
one dimensional caricature of an Asian person who was not Asian. Well,

(27:16):
most of the time it's not funny, so then I
wouldn't find it very funny. But I do think people
just aren't you even having to be in the conversation
with Asian people, like they used to recording these podcasts
and then it's just their friends who hear it. So
the fact that Asian people on Twitter can hear it
and have an opinion there all of a sudden like
oh well calm down. But they always didn't like it.
They just didn't listen to his podcast. Yeah, I mean

(27:37):
either way, I can't find it a single excuse to
like whether or not he knows Asian people like just
in general, right, I think as a society we have
to be when people go what about fucking you know,
like what would Don Rickles do and ship like that,
it's like, you know, they were making really fucked up
jokes that I'm sorry. Society was just in a different place,
so it's not what would they do now? They were

(27:58):
they were coming from a time where we were less
progressive and we understood the damage that like jokes do
and how they you know, subvert the ability of people
to have any kind of upward mobility, of mobility socially, whatever,
and that you reinforce these stereotypes that put people in
categories and ones that should succeed and others should not.

(28:18):
So you know, miss me with all that ship, because
I think at the end of the day, the best
kind of comedy is gonna come out of not being like,
look how different this ship is from us or whatever,
exactly right everything when we will do that and I'm like,
and we and we talked about it when we first
brought this up of just like, if you're really on
your ship as an artist, as a comedian, you can

(28:39):
let go of this dumb ship that you grew up
being like, well south I grew up on South Park
and they do all this as you shouldn't like, yeah,
but there's a reason why this that is not the
height of comedy for somebody. And the ship that you
look at that you can really admire as like an artist,
you're like this take this took actual thought and it
was an actual critique on something they observed, rather than like, oh,
I'm gonna do a carrop call like that ship. It

(29:00):
makes my ship. Yeah, I'm canceled, don't have Japanese and
even myself, like I said, I used to think that
ship was funny, you know what, in a way because
it made white people laugh. It wasn't because I was like,
this is funny. I go, when I do this thing,
they laugh and I like that. Meanwhile, I'm being like,
they think I'm co signing this fucking racist bullshit. I

(29:21):
feel like you're like in on the joke. Well, and
to clar I don't agree that he should do these things.
I just thought it was interesting to hear that, because
I do think a lot of people think that. It
was interesting to kind of break that of course and
be like, well, why do people think that. I think
it's just because they traditionally Asian people haven't been their audience,
so they haven't had to face the fact that it
was never really that funny, but they always thought it

(29:41):
was because they just could work in their bubble. Yeah.
I just yeah, It's like I said, I'm glad to
see you know him, peace out? Uh And for anybody else,
this is the deal. If you do some ship that
people are telling you who's fucked up, learn how to
own that ship. If you are not will link to grow,
then you will be left behind. That's what cancelation is,

(30:04):
because it's just gonna keep moving. So do you want
to you want to move along? If you want to
stay fixed, then we will progress without you, and it
will feel it will feel cold out there because everybody's
left and you're not willing to move along with everybody. Yeah,
the First Amendment doesn't give you the right to tell
whatever joke you want on SNL. It also doesn't give
you the right to not be judged by history, which

(30:26):
you know, like in historical Yeah, there's still consequences. He also,
I don't think was making a joke in those clips
that came out. I think he was just talking. It's
funny that comedians keep defending him like you have to
be able to make jokes, and he does make jokes like, yeah,
the podcast was just a conversation about how he felt,
so I'm pretty sure that's not a joke. And then yeah,
when it's closed, like it's actually the most deceptive food

(30:47):
on earth, it's like what do you what is? Yeah,
he tried to add ideology to like what are you
talking about? All Right, we're gonna take a quick break.
We'll be right back and we're back and finally somebody

(31:09):
who you know, stands up for other cultures. Donald Trump
had a rally. Uh, he's currently pulling at about approval
among Hispanic voters, and he wanted to address that because
that's crazy. Yeah, I mean, look, he has a tough
re election bit in front of him. Maybe I don't
know if it depends on how you asking me. The
economy is doing so well, but he really needs to

(31:32):
begin closing that gap because he can't win with his bass.
So he was in New Mexico doing the fucking his darndest,
trying to court a group of voters who he's so
lovingly described as rapists, murderers with just like, it's hard
for me to describe how masterfully he threaded the needle
in addressing, you know, what it means to be white,

(31:54):
to be be perceived as white, to be perceived as Hispanic, um,
and just the the the elegance in which he tackled this.
I guess I just do want to say. I'm starting
to clip of this rally where he's referring to this guy,
Steve Cortez, who is a member of Trump's Hispanic Advisory Council.
So he's using that to lead in of like, Hey,

(32:14):
I understand, I understand Hispanic. He happens to be Hispanic,
but I've never quite figured it out because he looks
more like a wasp than I do. So I haven't
figured that one out. But I'll tell you what. There
is nobody that loves his country more or Hispanic more

(32:36):
than Steve Cortes. Steve, thank you, not me, But he
loves the Hispanics more, not even need What do you
like more the country or the Hispanics? He says, the country.
I don't know. I may have to go for the Hispanics,

(32:56):
to be honestly, we got a lot of Hispanics. We
love ourrsan get what is that for? Really? He hit
it all. He just like the first time he said
he just slipped in Hispanic. It didn't even make sense
in the sentence here and the I don't remember what

(33:16):
it was, but he just like it felt like he
was just wedging. He loves the Hispanic, his what he is.
I'm going to gate keep in terms of what I
will believe someone how they can identify Hispanic or not
because he looks like a wasp. Yeah, I haven't figured
it out. What is it a figure out? Because I
mean they're different on the inside. How could they look

(33:37):
the same on the outside. That's that's wild. People understand.
It's just a step like if Joe Biden's out here
being like corn Pop and it's straight Razor Gang tried
to fight me and chain and then you got Trump
and like, I love the Hispanic and this I like, also,
what was he doing like a dual loyalty trope kind

(33:58):
of thing of like what do you like more the
country or Hispanic? Right? I think I don't think it's
the country. I think it's Hispanic. Right. He's like setting
up this um. He's I feel like he's trying to
play obviously to Hispanic voters, but also to white people
to be like don't worry, Like it's like a little
wink to like, don't worry. I still like you made
that wasp joke to be like, but he looks white

(34:20):
that country thing, to be like, don't worry. I know
we'm not going to give away our country. I can
really tell the difference. And if he's around me, he's
gonna look waspy. Believe me. Believe me. It's mind boggling
because just it's him trying to speak good naturedly on
the subject, but it all of his rhetoric and just

(34:41):
everything he says and believes rests on like such a
foundation of just such wrongheaded assumptions that like it's just
everything bleeds because he has no He's not a good
person deep down. So when he freestyle improvises, he comes,
he goes in his wheelhouse and they're in shipp in there.
And when Igazalea tries to freestyle that was it's like,

(35:08):
I'm trying to be nice. Yeah, it's I haven't seen
it was like this like a five year old video
where she is going so hard on our freestyle. It's
pure gibberish and pop are just he yes, yes there are.
There are sounds on the motopeia, some words in English,

(35:28):
others and languages we have yet to discover. But anyway,
with with this whole thing, I just look at him
and I realized, you know, his whole thing is like, Okay,
we gotta we gotta win Hispanics. So all I'll just
say is like, we love the Hispanics. And that's all
I got because I only know I know nothing culturally
to connect with or anything aside from I'll just say

(35:50):
I like this group and this one dude, this one guy,
I have this one friend. Yeah, disclosure. He started it
off by saying like, I don't even know what Hispanics are,
but I love them. Yeah. Like, at a meeting, he's
like in his Steve Courts here, Cortest, No way, oh
c O r T s. That's Courts. It's Cortest, sir.

(36:13):
But you're white. Yeah, I'm not touches his wallet. Yeah,
it's like, I gotta I haven't quite figured you out, Courts.
But yeah, look this is I mean, with this, I
can't imagine him bringing in more Hispanic voters. But again,
internalized self hatred is a very real thing. Yeah. Well,

(36:35):
he's currently pulling according five thirty eight, uh, twelve points underwater,
twelve percentage points more disapproved than approve of him, which
is somewhat reassuring. But Obama was eight points underwater at
this point in his presidency. So well, but I guess
then though, two, Like, this administration has forced people to

(36:57):
basically say like, yeah, fuck it, it's the racism, you
know what I mean. Back in with Obama, it was like, well, Obamacare,
they're gonna fucking death panel my grandma like that was
the those are the talking points, right, and there weren't
the dog whistles only came in very other ways about
the president. But they were the policies. They were mostly
going against policy, even though they were motivated by I'm

(37:19):
sure racial animals and things like that. But now when
you look at these policies, that's I think forced people
to pick a side here, to be like you are
you you you're really out here saying this is what
you want. Because if you are, if you are brave
enough to do that, okay, well then put your magat on.
If now you might want to fade away into the
shadows because you can't hide behind a fucking you know,
gods didn't flag anymore. Yeah, I think, yeah, there's like

(37:40):
a sliver of people in between the Obama approval and
Trump approval. And those are the people who are like
openly or who weren't willing to admit to themselves what
what their disapproval of Obama was about. And look, I
get it, you know, I've read all the studies on
people there. You know there they fear the waning power
of their culture and things like right, but you know,

(38:01):
let guess what man, it's uncomfortable. Yeah, well I like it. Yeah, well,
it's been uncomfortable for a lot of us to welcome
to earth. Um. Alright, well, let's talk about what does
happen in the dream scenario that Trump actually loses the election.
We've talked about how different electoral things are aren't looking

(38:23):
great for him at this moment. It's at least as
bleak as it's been at this point for a incumbent
because George H. W. Bush, the last president to lose
his reelection bid, was still like insanely popular at this point.
It's just the economy started to hit the shitter towards
the end of his first administration, came in fucked him up. So,

(38:50):
like a couple of people are starting to talk about
this thing that we've talked about before on this show
that I think we need to be more aware of,
is that Trum if he loses the election, is not
going to go without Like it's not going to be
a peaceful transfer of power like one way or another.
He's going to not He won't admit that he's lost,

(39:13):
like that's just something he's Uh. There's a Slate article
that just came out that interviews this sort of legal
expert where he they say, like he's temperamentally incapable of
admitting that he lost something, so his followers, he's going to,
you know, ask them to do something. I don't think

(39:35):
he has the power in terms of like not in
his fan base, but in the infrastructure of the White
House to have like some sort of protests if that happens,
because from based on the way people, you know, his
administration has gone, it seems like there's a lot of
people who are like keeping their jobs and you know,
in with him. But then like secretly kind of would
be like, you can't wait for this the guy to

(39:55):
get out who might just drop the facade as soon
as he legally doesn't have power. But I'm curious, like,
is there a real fear of like he's got people
around him in power that could keep him there. So
this guy who's sort of an expert on that subject
says that the four main checks that we have other
than the Supreme Court, which can't really do anything to

(40:16):
reinforce their position right now, are the electoral College, Congress,
UH state governors, and then the Defense Department, which you
know would have to kind of say fuck you to
him eventually, UM comes down to and if those are
people that have to like, those are the checks. And

(40:37):
let's say there were a group of rebellious state governors,
It's like, now what are we deal? Like? Where are
we going at that point? I feel like people believe
in democracy on a fundamental well not everyone, but most
a lot of people, even if they're conservative or have
views that are feel to me very hateful. I think
on a base level believe in like the idea of democracy.
And I feel like it would be very hard to

(40:59):
um a massive, critical group of like governors want to
keep him there. I don't know. Yeah, he's I mean,
he's already laying the foundations for not believing any of
the truth telling apparatus is in the country, with like
the fake news and fake media. Um. He during the

(41:19):
mid terms, Uh, he tweeted something about how he thought
the Russians were going to interfere in the two thousand
eighteen mid terms on Democrats behalf, which nobody had ever
even remotely suggested other than that tweet. So he tries
things out on Twitter. He tries out but if he
really tried it out, he would have tried to actually

(41:42):
assert that that's what happened, because once he took that
l he was just like, yeah, a lot of a
lot of people should have kissed the ring, and that's
what happened, right, but kind of throwing it out to
see what land. I mean, he's a classic narcissist, Like
they'll throw things that if something lands, and he'll keep
going with that live it doesn't just like I ever
said that. Yeah, but I think like no president, in
addition to no president running for re election ever having

(42:05):
been in like this bad position, no president running for
re election has ever faced the possibility that they go
to jail if they don't win. So, like, the stakes
are high, and I think he's going to try whatever
he possibly can to. I mean, Michael Cohen said he
was like specifically, uh, and I I believe everything Michael

(42:25):
Cohen says. But he was like, you guys know that
if Trump loses in there will not be he won't
go peacefully. I think we're his exact words. Maybe he
can like if he if it's like America is breaking
up with Trump, maybe he'll go to Russia and uh
run for president there. And because I do feel like

(42:45):
he's doing that thing where you know, He talks about
Russia like it's the next girlfriend, like they had a relationship,
and he's like no, no, no, it's a way. But
then like they're still talking, something's happening there. Still. I
feel like he's setting the groundwork to like just be like,
all right, well, this country is done with me. What
a is another tree that I could just hop into
it anyway that would force him to accept that the
country's done with him. And I don't know if he
can even I don't think it's the whole thing is

(43:07):
very odd to think about going into the future. I
think people's brains are just like stopping at the beating
him because that's the thing that we weren't focused enough
on in uh and they're like, well, yeah, you know
that that's a dream or that's you know that that's
something that a bridge wal cross when we get to it.

(43:29):
But I do think it's going to be a constitutional
crisis that we're gonna have to deal with if that happens.
I think we have to be focused on like beating him,
but not on him accepting defeat, because I don't think
that he will ever like and not in like physically,
but in the sense of like I do think sometimes
people want justice. We want to have that moment where

(43:49):
he's like, all right, I lost. And I don't think
we're ever going to get that with him. He's always
going to find a way to spin it where he
can't lose because he's a narcissist. But we can get
to a point as a country where he's in his
corner it doesn't affect us anymore. And I think we
have to let go of needing him to like like
sort of give us that remorse because I just don't
think he will ever know. We don't need we don't
need closure from But if the armed portion of the

(44:11):
country are you know, unwilling to accept the fact that
he lost, like you know, the and Fox News is
unwilling to accept it, or at least you know, reporting
that he's plausibly claiming that you know, the results of
the election are in question, then you know that's how

(44:31):
civil wars start. How can we ghost him as a
country to get it through, Like we don't say, like
the election results come in and just don't talk about it,
but we know what happened. And like it's like that
time when you know you're dating somebody and they do
some ship and you start going and you go, fuck,
we're done. But but you you keep that hand close
to your chest because you can't just be like, I'm sorry,

(44:53):
did you just say you don't need garlic? We're done?
But now you're like okay, okay, and then try and
figure out like, hey, are we hanging out? Let me
let me check. I think I left something at your house, like,
oh yeah, come to the White House, all your ships.
That's a subtle sign that you can put out there

(45:14):
that things aren't going well in a relationship. Uh. And
let's check in real quick with my Lonopolis. Uh. He
is a you know, a figurehead of the right wing
movement with a hilarious downfall. I mean he started so strong. Uh.
You know, he was like the Nazis, gay Golden child um,

(45:35):
offering them all kinds of cover because I was like, well,
you know, I'm also part of a marginalized group and
like so I'm not really a Nazi, but read my
takes and it's pretty clear where I'm at. Wink wink
wink um. But you know, things really started change from
seventeen because he got a book deal. But then a
video came out of him like defending pedophiles, and so

(45:56):
then he lost the book deal, which made him have
to resign from right Bart, and then his checks from
the mercers started drawing up, and he got into all
this debt. I feel like we talked about this hilarious
debt he was in. I think it was a cardier
or something over a ring he bought and then tried
to return and then they're like returns famul Anyway, he's
in fucking millions, and he's in terrible debt too, as

(46:17):
he should be. And and then earlier this year Australia
was like, your bandam, we don't from the country, like
the country, Yeah no, but it's just still I mean
good shout out to them, like they're being like, nah,
you're good, we don't need you here. Keep it moving though,
thank you very much, sir. So then he was as
he wandered, you know, the cursed waste lands of the Internet.

(46:38):
He's just been desperate to get his his vibe back
because he's also been kicked off nearly every fucking social
media platform too that he's on, like Telegram or something
whatever that I think he's literally sending people telegrams, telegraphs whatever.
Then sing out right um. And so he announced on
his little telegraph telegram thing. He is like, Okay, I

(47:01):
found my first sona. I'm a furry now and I
am a snow leopard. Um. And here's this really cool
rendering of me with my like fast wave haircut and
trademark terrible glasses. And I will be attending Midwest for Fest,
which is a convention to celebrate the furry fandom. And
it's like in the like outskirts or to the suburbs

(47:22):
of Chicago. But the people who are in this group
were like, we absolutely First of all, they're furries on
on by and large to my knowledge, are not down
for fascist bullshit. So they're like, we are very just
this is very disconcerting to think that this guy is
gonna come we know what he's about, what the kind
of shift he's gonna pull. Um. But it also brought

(47:44):
up these memories of like another incident with furries and
fascism creeping into the furry world. Uh. For people who
don't know, those are people who like who have a persona,
they dress up, make themselves animals to like art or
costumes whatever. I'm sure seen it shout to the furries.
But then it's more than just dressing up. They like

(48:04):
it's part of their identity. And yeah, and so the
big community exactly. And I think for most people who
are savvy on the internet, you're pretty probably familiar with
frist to the you know, older listeners, people have just
gotten out of prison. Uh you know that you can
take that explanation. So the in seventeen there was this
guy who called himself Foxler um who like wore like

(48:28):
black dress, shirt, red tie, had a red arm band,
but rather than a swastika, it was a pop print.
And this person swears up and down. It was like,
first of all, I'm Foxler. I do not like Nazis.
That photo of me doing the Hyle Hitler that was
a mistake, and I think the timing of the photo
was all fucked up. My arm band has nothing to

(48:48):
do with Nazis. It's a reference to an old video
game character. And my name Foxler is in no way
a combination of Fox and Hitler. It's my My real
last name is Miller. So that's why I got Foxler,
even though I'm you know, fucking Fox whistling the ship
out of this thing, um. And so it caused like

(49:09):
a huge uproar because he was like part of a
group called the Furry Raiders, who again they said we
are not political or whatever, but it was clear where
they stood on the political spectrum um. But you know,
it's just it's interesting to see that like these communities,
even in this kind of community, they're having to like
they're being like anti fascist furries who are like no
funk that, like these people aren't pulling up here um,

(49:31):
and the embarrassment continues for Anapolis. I wonder so he
like posted this publicly to be like I'll be at
this thing, Like is there a world where he was
trolling to try to get people to protest this convention?
I mean, I think in some level he wants to
probably find an outsider group, marginalized group to kind of
make waves in or whatever. So I don't know, I

(49:52):
highly doubt that he had any interests or in like
furry culture. Yeah, he's just trying to target and then
also maybe say like latch onto like oh furries have
been discriminated against or something, and right, and then there
you have groups like Foxler and people like that and
being like Okay, maybe they can catch this wave I'm
trying to put get right out there and see maybe
I can have a bit, a little bit of a

(50:13):
takeovers on, right, Like he I think he was hoping
that Furries would accept him and identify with his idea
that he feels like he is discriminated against. It's odd
to me that after all this, after getting kicked off everything,
that he didn't consider the option of just like trying
to be a better person. By this time, he could
have improved so much. Right, it's time to it's time

(50:36):
to let the brand go, My dude. Yeah, I think
this is kind of a good object lesson of how
to protect a community like that. Young people who are
Internet savvy are able to keep these sorts of pieces
of ship out of their community and protect themselves. And
when we come back, we'll talk about how the mainstream

(50:57):
media is less savvy than Ferry community. And we're back,
and let's talk about how Sean Spicer has officially been normalized.

(51:18):
You guys, he's a he's a hoot. He's he's dressed
like Cuban Pete from the mask doing the most painful
I mean, I don't even in talking about this story,
we're missing the point, right that Sean Spicer has been
allowed to re enter society, uh, somehow completely forgiven for

(51:38):
his sins for being the mouthpiece for this despicable administration
um and as actually currently the mouthpiece for a pro
Trump superpack. Let's not forget he never he never disconnected
from that world, and now we're like, oh yeah, let's
let's dress him up. Let's laugh, let's try and forget
about all this ship. Let's let him create his own
narrative on TV where he was like, I think a
lot of people are going to see a side of

(52:00):
they never saw. It's like, the only side I want
to see is the back of your head when you
get the fun up out of here. It's crazy. I
didn't even want to watch it because I knew like
people would hate watch it, but I watched it for
the sake of this podcast. But it is like clearly
they know what they're doing. They're just trying to get
people to hate watch And it's like at this time,
like right for the election, all of this is like
very strategic for them to try to look at this

(52:21):
all in fun, right, because for the right, the ideas
like oh, look, like you know, people say things, but
let how can you be a Nazi and wear a
shirt like that. How can you be racist and wear
a shirt like that? How can you be hell bent
on the destruction of marginalized people? And we're a shirt
like that and dance to spice. You're really like bold colors,
so that's yeah. I mean, yeah, we know what the
original uniforms look like. They were futia. So humor Boss

(52:45):
was like, no, yes, you're gonna wear black and gray.
Who had to dance with him that She's like, I
feel so bad for her. I forget what her name.
I mean, I don't know anything about her, and I
feel bad for her, well white, because you're the person
who is like the rop to stand next to this
radioactive waste pile to be like, see it's cool, it's
dancer friendly. Yeah, the thirst that he like, I did

(53:09):
watch the his routine after this morning on a Twitter
link that hopefully does not add to the ratings of
the show. Um, but he like after he completed the dance,
he like fell to his knees and like he had
just like scored a Super Bowl winning touchdown and like
looked to the heavens and put his arms out. And

(53:32):
I think it gets to the same idea we were
talking about earlier that like as much as the right
criticizes like mainstream monoculture, like they are so desperate to
be accepted by it um and like all they needed
a little crack and they're like, oh, thank God, give
it to me. He got into the end zone of

(53:52):
you know, Holly weird acceptance or whatever funk he thought
that show, because I mean they have kids, like Donald
Trump has kids, Ivanka is trying to keeps trying to
beat right. Milania does have a beautiful son, and Avanka
is still trying to get him to like move in
some more mainstream directions and failing to do so. And
you know, Sean Spicer even like he was seen outside

(54:16):
like after the episode aired, weeping in his car and
people were like, yeah, I mean that's about right, That's
how I would respond to what just happened to you
on tv UM. And then he explained like they were like,
oh wait, he's smiling, and he was like, yeah, I
just was talking to my kids or watching a video
of my kids, watching my dance routine, and um, it's

(54:38):
just this glorious like moment for him where he gets
a little bit of the a little bit of some
glow off of like this mainstream cultural institution. And you know,
I'm sure his kids were like, oh, thank god, Dad's
normal again. You know, whatever the funk this is. I mean, honestly, milk,
shake the funk out of this dude if you ever

(54:59):
see him, and I think, really, if you look at
his whole I watched the routine because I like dancing, okay,
and I want to know what stars it was. It
was violence. That whole routine was fucking violence, okay, And
it was objectively horseshit. It was the most rigid robotic,

(55:22):
very rigid and robotic. But that's rude to robots exactly. Also,
you know, protect the spice girls. Um. But again, so
he got a fucking terrible score because objectively that was
the worst shit ever. This motherfucker then goes into his
bag and is now tweet and deleted this whole ship
where he again made himself the victim as they do,

(55:44):
as that's his playbook. Over there on the right, this
is the tweeting deleted. Clearly the judges aren't going to
be with me. Let's send the message to hashtag Hollywood
that those of us who stand for hashtag christ won't
be discounted. May God bless you delete that ship famish,
and he did trying to like spin it. I mean,
I'm sure there are other dancers that are Christians. Like

(56:04):
he's trying to make it all of a sudden like like,
oh me because I'm Christian. Yeah, it's part of the
culture war, and this is his way of weaponizing and
in a weird way. I mean, if you really want
to read through the lines and think of what kind
of dog whistles in there, I'm like, someone's being persecuted
christ followers being persecuted. This other industry that I've also

(56:25):
here dogs yea industry depends on depends on what four
Chan fucking board here. Um. But yeah, again, this is
just sort of I think he deleted it because everyone's
like and then he used like Mike Huckabee tweet to
like quote tweet and was like Mike was like, if
you really want to freak out the people in Holly Weird,

(56:45):
get behind Sean Spicer blah blah blah. He's a good sport. Yeah.
And then Sean's like, thank you so much. I feel
like it's crazy that, like the Trump like it's not
even the first term. Over and he's already like on TV,
you know, like there should be some sort of role
like after you served offense. You can't just like immediately
beyond one of the biggest reality shows. Yeah, I think,
And again, fucking ABC, pull your fucking head out of

(57:08):
your ass, please, this is the worst ship ever to
put this dude on here. Uh And I mean among
all the other terrible things. I mean, ABC was there
is known for being a very diverse network even beyond that,
So I don't know what the funk I'm expecting from them,
but I wouldn't be so surprised if, like, in ten years,
like we were doing the presidential run as a reality
show in the White House like is basically just without

(57:31):
like real like ad but it would be like with
you know, Chris Harrison coming out to right and we vote,
like they're like, if you want to vote for Hillary Clinton,
texts you tell Trump that he can. Okay. This is
would actually be an improvement because it would be more
transparent and direct suppress. We could do the Apprentice the President.

(57:55):
You still do the board meetings and you go you're
hired or you're elected, and then you get to say
that and that's your new position. But you don't get
to decide. You just get to say that ship and
you can get to shine. I mean, that wouldn't be
if he if he gets reelected, Like I wouldn't be
surprised if he pitched that idea, Like okay, it's called
the President of the presidents. Well, he went after Obama's

(58:16):
Netflix deal, which leads me to believe he's trying to
set up something. And he's like mad that, like Oba
is done with his job. But he did his job.
You are like like Trump is trying to be like,
oh wait, wait I want to be on TV. Oh
I could do that, I'll have to be the president.
You don't even want to be the president. Wait, what
was the logic of that? I saw that. It's just
a dumb thing. I think he threw out there to

(58:37):
be like so much investigated. How is he doing this?
Like this isn't allowed. Yeah, I'm pretty sure it is. Yeah,
it's I don't even understand. It's just like, why how
are they making money? He's calling it out like he
thought maybe he's treating Obama like he's still the president
doing TV? Right, Yeah, I don't understand. I guess he's
saying like maybe that the president was using his power.

(59:00):
Maybe perhaps Obama was negotiating the Netflix deal while he
was in office. You think this mother for real? Now
people were banging down the door because guess what, Obama's
brain isn't toxic and the best Trump is going to
do is being like on n R A t V
or something. And also every president up to this point
has aged like it was fucking time lapse, Like he

(59:22):
was working his ass off when he was in office,
unlike you, like other presidents did not have executive time
to like think about what a movie they'd want to make. Um, well,
I feel like that is a scary thing is to him?
Um Like deals in Hollywood are just as important as
things that are happening, like in foreign policy, because he's
doing that as like a very important priority that he

(59:44):
needs to talk about as the president, where it's like
you should just be focusing on just like ignore all that. No, No,
I needed Netflix to give me a deal on CEE.
So maybe that's what we could do give them, So
just ye creating streaming platform. If you want to watch him,
you gotta buy in here. Guess what we're gonna give

(01:00:06):
your own streaming platforms called see so um, it'll be
active this. I can you leave office? Check should just
hire him to replace Shane. That would be better than
having him as the president. I would take that. Yeah,
we could just all not watch them. Well, now, that
would be unfair for the other treat it. We'd treat
it like the SNL episode where he hosted and just

(01:00:26):
not watch the ship out of that. All right, let's
talk about a Brent Spot pizza hut. Oh, bless them
poisoning us to even though there are another hyper conservative
pizza outlet, at least they're poisoning us with pleasure. They
have created the stuffed cheese it pizza. Now what is it,

(01:00:47):
you ask to me? It looks like if you spilled
the ooze from teenage mutant Ninja Turtles on a box
of cheese. It's that's what this thing is. They say
you can eat it in about They don't give the
actual dimensions, but they say it's a two or three
bite Okay. In the picture it looks like a cheese it,
which I'm it looks like a throw pillow in my mind,
that's how big that is. But that's thinking like probably

(01:01:08):
that bucket of ketchup is like or what marin arrow,
but I need another thing for scale. I wish again
we knew what the scale was. But what they're saying
it's a It's a crust infused with the sharp cheddar
flavor of cheese. It and stuffed with either cheese or
pepperoni and marinara dipping sauce. This is what I've been
waiting for. From my purely stoned point of view, this

(01:01:31):
must happen. I mean, this has to I have to
have it. I will you know what, I'm going to
try and order it so I can we can try
it on that air or whatever you call this on
the pod. So, like, do you know how they have
mozzarella sticks, They should make mozzarella pillows like throw pillows.
That's oh yeah, like those circular ones. Yeah, just like
a giant pillow and everyone can just hold onto it

(01:01:52):
and eat it from the side. Oh whoa, whoa, Okay,
you went Okay, you went there. You know the fish balls.
That should just make mozzarella pillow. Okay, I would seeing
of a pillow, an actual fabric pillow that looks like
a big gas mozzarella. No, I think it should be
breaded and filled with cheese. Okay, I would, man, you know,
but like twenty minutes into that thing, when everyone's like

(01:02:12):
saliva is like they're weird, like rap bite part of
the mozzarella stick and be like, you know what, maybe
you gotta eat it, lady in the tramp style without
using your hands. Yeah, yeah, like a gigantic corn cob.
Everyone gets you grow your sleeves up. We're eating corn.
How do you eat corn on the cop Eat my corn?

(01:02:38):
How I need to with a group. Now, I don't
think this looks particularly good, and I'm not a huge
Pizza Hut fan, but i am. I do admire the
fact that they actually fucked with the bread on this,
Like they changed the frust into cheese it, whereas I
was I was very disappointed in the KFC Cheetos where
the breading around the chicken turned into cheat they just

(01:03:00):
put a Cheeto sauce on it. That's bullshit. The last
company that actually changed the bread portion of the thing,
Dorito's Locos talking that is the best. So yeah, well
let's see. I don't know, will will we try this? Dude?
If we don't try it, I would, I'm sort of God,

(01:03:22):
I'm gonna eat this ship this weekend. Because the thing is,
you know, health aside, politics, assign dignity aside. I love cheese.
It's I remember as a child my love for cheese
its was undying, and I went to a point where
I ate so many cheeses I couldn't eat them anymore.
But now the time has past, I'm remembering my past love.

(01:03:42):
I'm seeing it the glow up happen with an X
and I'm like, you know what, let's make another mistake.
I thought you were going to say it was like
topped with cheese, that's and name. It's like, that's an
interesting choice, right, yeah, but I think you know, this
could be the beginning of a very great partnership with catalog.
I'll oh, that would be worth trying. Just order a

(01:04:02):
pizza and then top it with cheese. It's I don't know,
do you like crunchy topping on a on a pizza
like that? Like yeah, yeah, okay, Well we'll have to
do I think a number of tests with cheese its
and pizzas and figure out what the best version is
cheese melt. If you know it, it's a straight ups

(01:04:24):
that she will turn to ash and then just SiZ
is very uh like innovative. They have the well done cheese.
It's that you can get. That's like the box full
of the well done. They got well done, Yeah don't they.
I don't know. I'm not I have not since uh
Sufie Lichterman has shuttled them into the office. Yeah, so

(01:04:45):
they they're certain like every once in a while you'll
get done in the bottles a little bit darker, a
little bit browned. Who's found a little extra their father
and somebody, you know, I found out that people were
working with those and they just we're like, nothing but
the well done. Yeah, so jeesuss out here. Uh, they're
they're willing to take risks respect to brands who know

(01:05:08):
that like like weird one off things in their boxes,
Like what if we just did a whole thing about that. Yeah,
it's called understanding our consumer base. Uh. Let's talk real
quick about the new streaming platform. But basically it's another
channel that we have to pay twelve dollars for or whatever.
Um NBC has announced their new streaming service called Peacock

(01:05:29):
uh and great Peacock impression. Peacock probably like sounds about
right like they scream, but it will debut in uh
and they got the scloocies. Hold on just really quick,
because what a peacock sounds like? Oh? You ship? And

(01:05:53):
then your sound? I mean, I mean that was was
scarily good. Thank you. I am I'm the new Michael Winslow.
But I only do three accents in the peacock. You
only do sounds that people can identify that peacock, you
idiot Winslow. Michael Winslow, Oh man, please? Is this why

(01:06:21):
they put The Office out on Netflix and then took
it away to get new generations. I didn't realize they
had to pay money to get that ship back, and
that isn't even them, is it? They're gonna I think
The Office is gonna be on this streaming plan. It
is it is. Universal had to pay five hundred million
to regain the rights. WHOA, yeah, but I mean you

(01:06:43):
with the numbers, don't lie with that. Yeah, because I
have friends who didn't watch it when it came out,
and like this last time when I came out on Netflix,
were like I just started watching the shows. Pretty good,
getting new fans interesting. But yeah, they got Brooklyn nine
nine Parks are wreck, Cheers down, Nabby, everybody loves Raymond
Friday Night lights Frasier. Well, they don't have Seinfeld, and

(01:07:07):
they also have um they're reviving Battlestar Galactica with Sam
s mail from Mr Robot and and I'm very excited
about Saved by the Bell with with reimagined by the
thirty rock writer and Great News creator. What's her name,
Tracy Wigfield Wigfield field Feld is Wigfelder Wigfield. Let's let's

(01:07:30):
do it right. Great News underrated in my opinion, that
show is fucking really good. And it took a lot
of people saying passively, like you just checked out. It's
pretty funny. The jokes are dense, the humors it's dense.
It's like dirty rock. It's like it's very thirty rock ish.
But if you're wondering to say, by the Bell thing,
the reboot is a c slater signed in correct. Mario

(01:07:51):
Lopez is locked in? Is uh? Jesse span Elizabeth Berkeley
locked in? Yes she is? Is Mark Paul Gossler uh?
Noted Asian locked in? No? Wait? What? Well this is
the problem. Okay, So he's on Mixed Dish, I think,
which is on ABC. So I don't think he can't
be on another motherfucker network right now. He's doing. No.

(01:08:13):
I mean, if you're on a network show, I doubt
they're going to be like, yeah, and then you can
do an NBC universal thing. So but we don't know that,
we don't know the points of that deal. So but
based on everything that's being written, Zack Morris features in
this whole thing, so to the premise to fuck around.
So this is what it is, per a press release
confirming the revival, which has been rumored for more than

(01:08:33):
a year. The new show imagines the world where Zach
is now governor of California, but he's in political trouble
for closing too many low income high schools. Wait wait
I knew his fucking blonde haired ass god. Anyway. To
fix his political problem, Governor Morris decides to send the
affected students to the highest performing schools in the state,

(01:08:56):
including Bay Side High. The influx of new students, it
was the overprivileged Bayside kids are much needed and hilarious
dose In reality, it's totally just like we just taking
his name and been like, let's make another show nothing
to do with right, that has just that's reverse dangerous minds. Right,
It's like because was I mean, I'm thinking like I

(01:09:18):
felt like Bayside High was just like a very like
they try to make it very like sort of any
town kind of. I didn't feel like it was meant
to be like the rich kids school. There were rich
kids there and then there were I didn't Season one
was like that that took place in Indiana and it
was just a normal school. But then it got richer
and richer and more like eighties uh fantasy land as

(01:09:42):
it went. But yeah, I mean Zach. Did I feel
like Zach was rich? Right? Yeah? But I never felt
like it was like, oh, the we're the well, like
the way they're playing it now, it's like, don't I
feel like it's like Gossip Girl, Like, oh, the poor
kids are going to like Sans or whatever, right, Which
that wasn't the vibe. No, No, I mean I thought

(01:10:02):
it'd be a much more woke tale where Zach Morris
becomes you know, social justice warrior governing from governor of California,
like be the mayor of Bay Side. What do you think?
In my mind? What? I don't even really think. I
bother to think where Zach Morris would end up. Well,
I mean, he has one of the most underrated superpowers

(01:10:23):
in the history of fiction, So like he wherever the
funk he wants to end. Yeah, in my mind, he's
like a criminal mastermind. So would he be using his
powers to get into That's what I was hoping to
be the studio space, and we launched another show, a
satirical take on this show where we investigate the reality
of this and to understand how did Zach Morris rise

(01:10:43):
to power so quickly. The presidency would be the only
place he could blend in because he ages so much
faster than everybody because he's the only one aging while
he calls the time out, so time works differently, so
he should be the president actually, uh yeah. And one
other thing a streaming wars that would be funny if
he was like sixty five when the the show and

(01:11:04):
everybody else is just they're normally like, oh no, something
zacts really sick. It's terrible. One other thing I wanted
to point out the rights to Big Bang Theory have
gone to HBO Max for a stunning total of six
hundred million dollars. That what seems like such a weird fit.

(01:11:25):
But then they're probably all just thinking about like we
all want to be Netflix, we all want to be
like the only one that matters. So they're trying to
just like you know, cover everything. You know, HBO has prestige,
but they also are going lowbrow like Big Bang Theory.
Do they have a big international audience. I wouldn't think so,
but I think Big Bang Theory might know. But I
mean HBO because maybe they're trying to market internationally. I

(01:11:46):
don't know. I mean just Big Bang Theory have a
big international life. I feel like sitcoms tend to have
more people who are like watching before, like I mean,
I don't understand what America is, right, And I definitely
saw it in Japan like dubbed and I was like,
it's a really dog audience in France, right right, right right?

(01:12:06):
You know everyone needs their big show horse to put
front and center, be like, you know this show you'
addicted to, Well, we can only get that ship here.
And I guess they're betting big on The Bang Theory.
I don't know. I don't watch the show, never seen
an episode my parents that so am I completely out
of touch? Do young people like that show? I'm sure

(01:12:27):
people because it's like it's like science adjacent to right,
aren't they like all fucking like theoretical particle physicists or
some shing. I don't watch it. I don't know anyone
who does. But I don't particularly think it's necessarily an
old audience. I think it's just whoever watches those kinds
of sick I guess in my mind because I'm like,
I ain't watching no fucking multicam sitcom. Feel like I
watched multicams when other kids. So maybe very young people

(01:12:49):
sitting at home watching and older people. And I'm sure
you looks like getting if you're fucking Bazinga or whatever
the fun that ship is Bazinga fans, let me know,
is it tight or is you? Do you just not
like yourself? My mom loves Sheldon, does she That's what
I asked, and she was like that, what's that one's name?

(01:13:12):
So funny the way he acts? Wow, what's your dad think?
Did your dad a Big Bang theory? I think so
and that, but they probably I'm assuming they watch watch
it together, so right, I don't think my mom's like
quietly binging Big Bang theory off in the corner. She's like, yeah,

(01:13:33):
just my pleasure, YEP. I feel like when I hear
like laugh tracks and like that's where a multicam soundtrack
I am like brought back to, like, Oh, I'm in
one room watching TV and my mom's like cooking rice
in the other room. So it doesn't make me feel
like a five Like I don't sit down and catch
up on my own now on any multicams. But I
could see that people have been like a kid and

(01:13:53):
like watching it while you're like waiting for dinner or something. Yeah,
there's a nostalgia yea, what I mean? Yeah, I think
that's why. I Also I'm still a trash human being
who watches Fuller House. Yeah, and for that exact reason,
so I can time travel and being like the theme
song the kind of same faces. Plus it helps you
know when to laugh, which is useful, Yeah, because because

(01:14:14):
I don't know. Yeah, we are famously known to not
know when to laugh. Actually, DJ Daniel has an applause
sign that he lights up on the on the studio
when we're supposed to laugh right now. For all my shows,
I always have a laughing yeah, just go please laugh.
That's jeb right, jeb uh. Well ship Teresa, It's been

(01:14:35):
a pleasure having you. Thanks for having me. This is
so fun. Where can people find you and follow you. Um,
I'm on Twitter, on Instagram at Larissa t She's a
great follow. Yeah. I have a podcast called You Can
Tell Me Anything, So follow that. Listen to that. Yeah,
check it out. Is there a tweet you've been enjoying? Um?
There is. It's really really stupid but it made me
laugh out loud, so um I picked it. Where did

(01:14:57):
it go? It's by It was like shared a the retweets.
I don't know this user, but at Captain Calvis just said,
you're telling me and Banana nutted in this muffin is
very funny. Miles people find you. Uh, you can find
me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. Couple

(01:15:21):
of tweets I like one is. Someone in the comments
of Rob Schneider's Shane Gillis defense said, look, guys, Adam
Sandler's shadow has an opinion that was from a Parisian
rebel at Parisian Rebel. Another one from Peter Taggart at
Peter Taggart SnO must return to the hiring model that

(01:15:42):
first made the show a success, bussing talent in from Canada,
giving them cocaine and having them all funk each other.
Agree hard agree. Uh. And finally from Dana Donnelly at
Dana donn Lee, Uh, I am allowed to ghost guys
because I have a therapist who told me to prioritize
my own mental health. Guys are not allowed to ghost

(01:16:02):
me because none of them have therapists. She's funny. She
is really funny. Zachary Cohen tweeted, Hook told staffords that
the Saudis view this attack has their nine eleven. Two
sources said uh, and Cody Johnson tweeted, wasn't their nine eleven?
Nine eleven? Yeah? And Miles Gray, some dude named at

(01:16:24):
Miles of Gray just tweeted, uh, side by side picture
of Joe Biden and Fire Marshall Bill and it's uncanny wild.
I wish he didn't ruin one of my favorite uh
in Living Color characters. Yeah, I mean again another show too.
I'm sure a lot of those people looking back at
their old show have been like, I don't know if

(01:16:44):
a lot of this comedy is good now? Yeah, yeah,
but I see. I don't think I'm surprised. You don't
seem many people anyway. It's it's funny. I always think
about how like when you watch Old in Living Color
sketches to any old comedy ship, like when you realize like, damn,
we had to grow a lot to be like this
is no longer ship that's banging anymore. Yeah, we all evolved. Yeah,

(01:17:07):
apparently something about Mary is not as good as I
I remembered it. People are like, oh, you should listen
to the back now cast on that. That's uh super
problematic movie. So I will do that. You can find
me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien. You can find
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(01:17:30):
episodes and our footnote where we link off to the
information that we talked about in today's episode, as well
as the song we ride out on masl second be
today this. I think we're gonna hear a few songs
from this group in the coming weeks. But this is
Bakaw Rhythm and steel band, and what they do is

(01:17:50):
they make it sound like you just got off a
cruise ship. What they're playing the most lit music on
their steel drums and they have it's a whole band,
but they do a lot of covers with steel drums.
Uh this, you know, well, let's just get Gangster off
the top of them. They do all kinds of covers,
but in particular, there's a cover of All for the Cash,
which is one of my favorite gang Star songs, produced

(01:18:11):
by g J Premiere Premiere Um, and this is a
steel drum version. And if a song about trying to
set up a drug dealer and it's all going wrong
and people getting killed, um could be a fun, upbeat
steel band still song, then I think they've found something.
So make sure your mom with a layer around your
shoulder shimmying to it. And then you know, like a

(01:18:33):
bunch of children with their problematic vacation braids. But anyway,
so this is All for the Cash by the book
ow rhythm is steel? All right? Well? The Daily Zais
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