Hero Without A Gun, Kanye And Trump = Same Person 4.24.18

In episode 133, Jack & Miles are joined by comedian Caitlin Gill to discuss the Waffle House shooting hero James Shaw, the Toronto van attack suspect being an Elliot Rodgers fan, Kanye and Trump having the same narcissism problem, Mike Pompeo and John Bolton being involved in anti-Islam groups, Trump lying to Forbes about how he rich he is to make it on the Forbes 400 list, and more! 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season twenty eight, episode two. Guys,
Yeah for April two thousand and eight. Team, my name
is Jack O'Brien a K pick potatoes O'Brien. That is
courtesy of Chris Oiley a olivation. Uh. That's referring back
to my homespun heating pad remedy that I bestowed on

(00:22):
you guys yesterday. You just boil or nuke a potato.
It retains a teat better than a warm wash cloth.
Just trying to give you guys a million dollars worth
of game for Pine and I am thrilled to be
joined as always by my co host, Mr Miles Gray,
the one they called John bong Jovi or Bonghi there.
Thank you for that a K from New a k

(00:44):
A maker Christi Yamaguchi main, thank you for that one
great a good handle. And also it is April, also
known as pixanchors in our meaning a meaning April to four,
which marks the beginning of the Armenian genocide. Now there
are a lot of people marching in l A. This
is kind of a close thing to me because I
have many Armenian friends. My godson is Armenian and I

(01:05):
know that the governments of Turkey the United States are
still not recognizing the genocide of the Armenian people in Turkey.
So again, shoutouts to y'all and shout out the highest
time uh. And we are thrilled to be joined in
our third seat by one of the all time great
hilarious stand up median Caitlyn Gil. I've never given myself pretty.

(01:31):
She just caught a live chicken in our studio. I
would be pretty proud if it doesn't that as well.
I gave myself a hot intro and cott a chicken.
I saw you beating the ship out of a side
of beef earlier. It's gonna stay ready, Stay ready, that is, Caitlin.
What is something from your search history that is revealing
about who you are? I had to look up X

(01:53):
Men movie with Santsa in it because I have lost
track of X Men movies, yes, and I came across
one on HBO Class. I think I think there's one
after first Class. I don't know, Like I did look
it up, like I hit go, and then I saw
the result and was like, still don't know what this is.
I've watched the movie and I still don't know what
that movie was, but it's a lot of young X

(02:14):
Men running around and one of them is Santa Stark.
Also has a name that is in Santa Stark. But
until the end of the next season I or the
continuation of this final season, I'm not going to know
what it is. Yeah, I'm pretty sure, like three more
years for it to come out, right, A pretty sure.
The name of that movie is X Men Babies they
come X Man Baby Bosses. What else? I Oh, Olympia

(02:40):
and Rainier beer. I drunkenly research whether or not they
have a rivalry. I did not complete that search, so
I don't know, but I did Washington Washington beers yes,
and it occurred to me in a Washington bar. I'm
recently returned freshly back last night, arrived from a Northwest trip.
Was in Portland and Seattle for shows. I told jokes

(03:01):
and it was fun, but I had to research their
beer beef and if there is I just I had
Olympia for the first time, like maybe two years ago.
A friend of mine, Kevin Parker Flynn shout out to
you from Kennewick, Washington. He was like, oh, they got
the Olympias at this liquor sture. I didn't know what
the funk they were, and I was like, oh, this
is just I like a regional, just sort of regular
beers because they don't taste very different to me except

(03:21):
for the can. But I'm like, oh, this is what
y'all drink up there, and I'm like, taste like exactly pretty.
I'm also not a hophead, so I don't have discerning
taste when it comes to beer. I feel like that's
a family of beer that is like brewed to have
no distinguishing flavor. It's meant to be as palatable and
approachable as possible to know just that that class of

(03:43):
like light taste de lager. You know you Budewisers, etcetera.
If Bud gets mad at your podcast, I'm very sorry,
but I wanted to see if there was a head
clash between the light beers of Washington and Still I
still don't know TBD. I just want to shout out
National Bohemia and Natty Bow. That's another regional beer that
I was put onto it. I was like, Okay, I

(04:04):
like the names that people have for it. Snentucky could
snack Baby can't be Portland's finest weirdest multi beer. What
is that called mon Entucky Cold Snack? I don't understand
any why any one of those words is the name
of the beer. But it's a cool camp Okay. I
like that pony on it. Yeah, that's a cool name, isn't.

(04:24):
What is something that's underrated? Underrated? Um? I feel like
I wrote down prescription sunglasses, and then I was trying
to remember if I said that last time I was here,
and even if I did, I stand by it. Okay,
I don't recall you saying that we're doing underrated right? Yes, yes, okay,
because they are most certainly not overrated underrated. They just
an investment, you know, making yourself and then you have
them and it changes your life for the better any

(04:45):
way that you didn't know you needed. But honey, you
do right right. My eyesight is just good enough that
I only wear glasses when I go to the movies
and I'm driving at night and stuff. So I've never
known yourself, I've never known the pain of tossing on
the glasses. And I can't see very well, but I
guess true. Yeah, if I had those one, I would
see the trees and leaves. Trees have leaves, they're not
screen and more fish shapes and like those signs on

(05:08):
the street I've worked on, which is crazy. I think
the first time I got my glasses, I felt like
I was cheating myself and I was like, yo, I
forgot about leaves because I was like, was that just
going the last like eight years not noticing that? Yeah?
Eight just like Super Mariot, like it came out of

(05:29):
Minecraft or some ship. Yeah, yours is more timely, more
up to date. Well, look like stay relevant to the kids.
When you guys first start wearing glasses, did colors seem
more vibrant? I don't see color. It was weird. That's
a problem, Yes it is. Yeah, yeah, I see race though.

(05:51):
Primary colors are very very bad. Uh. Yeah, I don't
know why that is. And I've tried to ask people
why the colors seemed more vibrant Once I could see
things more distinctly, and it's got to be some information.
Your brain was like struggling to fill in before word out,
It's like, oh, this is easy. That's a lot of great. Yeah,
so you've worn glass your whole life? No, I I
got lucky my folks but did from when they were

(06:12):
little tiny kids, and then I didn't need them until
I was much later and realized that driving shouldn't give
normal people a headache, and you can usually tell what
signs safe from far away. And then with the revelation
of prescription eyeglasses, before were you just kind of having
sunglasses on and being like just squinting ad hard, or like,
would you ever put like this the eyeglasses and then
put the sunglasses over? I have done both, but for
many years when I just didn't have glasses when I

(06:34):
probably need them, I just shade it up my blindlass
eyes and hit the road. So apologies to the fellow
motorists of California. For several years, I was ignorant as
to my own Okay, we're safe. A prescription sunglasses the
most adult purchase I've ever made, and I own a car.
So I did the best thing, do it? Go get them?

(06:55):
They're underrated. You want them believing you got me thinking
about you got that same money? I don't. I don't
even know what that means, but I think I have
spend it in a certain amount of times. Right, get
the sun. Fortunately, during that period, you were the only
bed driver in California. So what is something Caitlin that
is overrated. Deviled eggs go home. That take have to

(07:18):
take my sweatshirt. You're an egg egg with more eggy
stuff blended into the middle of the egg. It is
the fussiest dish that you are not transforming in the least.
Just put paprika on a hard boiled egg and let's
not pretend it's a party dish. I just don't like
them personally. You are not an egg fan at all.
I had to learn how to like eggs, so no,
I'm not like offering me just an egg to love

(07:40):
the bomb. Yes, wait, so how do you wait? What
do you mean you have to learn to like so
you didn't like him all when I was a kid,
just through repetitions the grown up, I was like, it
is it is unacceptable to not like eggs. You live
in a world where I travel a lot. There's I'm
just gonna have to eat an egg some time. Uh,
you can't pick them off your sandwiches at the start, devilgs,
I just like problem now, Yeah, well I still went.

(08:04):
I only have been once, and I've been on the road,
and that feels like I made a major sacrifice and
that's terrible. Yeah, well, looking a lot hard for social sens.
Ever since, ever since they changed their app to like
when you had to re up it used to be
ten bucks. Now they're adding twenty five bucks at a time.
Come on, you know I got some money spending there then,
I mean, really, I just do it for the cold brew.
But you know, now you know people are putting me

(08:25):
on a different kinds of cold brew, Y might start
making out. Yeah, it's really easy. We can talk about that.
It's under raged. But double leggs are gross and you
just cut them up and then you do with all
the fussy stuff. You have to be fussy. You have
to pull out just the yolk, and then you blended
around with like Mayo as I understand, which is an
egg based product. It's just putting in your eggs. I
just feel like it gets egg shaped egg salad. It's like, right,

(08:48):
it's just not Why would you ask your poor loving
relative to finicky, fussily pop out a bunch of pluffier
Yeah it's funny because I remember loving them and I
was like, you know what, I'm gonna make some. Then
I tried make them and that was a close. I
was like, it's like piping out yolk in a like
into a thing. I'm like, why am I pass? It's
all about the presentation when really, as you say, Jack,

(09:10):
I really would just eat a fucking bucket of egg
salad and we really achieved the same. I feel like
they are like a relic from those weird seventies like
or fifties cooking, like the wild recipes of like banana hollandaise,
banana ham hollandaise, an actual recipe. We did an article
on this cracked where somebody went back and like, ebaye

(09:32):
a bunch of cookbooks from like the fifties and sixties,
and like they were super into mixing like fruit with
ham and sauce, and they were everything was jello, Like yeah,
they would be like a roast beef inside jello, like
ham salad with jello and something like they were just

(09:52):
all about mixing things with jello because jello, I guess,
had just been invented. It was like considered the food
of the future. I mean, jella, it's been around for
a minute. I don't know why it has these food
renaissances where it's like we're fascinated by suspending things in it,
Like that's not appetizing that's never looked good. I've heardgs
just weaseled their way out from that ero where we

(10:13):
were like, yeah, just sliced four apples and then you
put What you do is you put a steak on
each one of them and then you melt a gooey
cheese that I don't know that sounded better than sounded better? Yeah, yeah,
that was actually deviled eggs belong in the same book.
Cut the egg, pull out the middle of the egg,
whip it with more egg, and then put it back
like a twice baked potato kind of thing, where you

(10:35):
just like, those are delicious potatoes. I know, I'm not
saying they're bad, but like lodge, it's the same process. Right,
You're you're you're having a potato, You're you're gutting it,
and then you're just reintroducing it with some more stuff. Man,
I love. Look, it would the same if you were
taking that potato, scooping it out and then mixing it

(10:56):
with a potato based product and then putting it back
in the potato. Do the twice baked gets cheese that
gets that's good stuff. That would be funny. So then
maybe we need to elevate the devil degg a little bit.
So I take the or I take the inside of
the potato out and mix it with mashed potatoes, and
then I wait, what about it. I'm wrong, but devil

(11:18):
dates are terrible. Yeah, no, you don't say you're wrong.
You know it's fine. People like watch them and enjoy them.
So I understand that some people get it, but I don't.
I don't. I don't get it. I think one of
the most underrated things is how much better food has gotten,
like in the last hundred years. Basically, yeah, like people's
fingers wearing your like ground up beef like the past. Yeah,

(11:40):
I am so about people's hands. I'm so weird it
out and grossed out, like people just separated industrial food.
Only machines have touched my food. That's more appealing than
some farmers. I'll take the hands. I'll take the hands.
There's the wild finger nail in there too. But they
used to like put such weird chemicals in there, and
we just think, well, it was the olden days, so
it's more nat troll. But it was like they could

(12:01):
get away with putting whatever the fun they wanted in there,
Like there was just no regulation because I look at
like pictures of my dad and his friends back and
they'm like, how everybody have a six pack? And they're like,
we were just like moving around different. Wasn't like we
were eating like vegans or whatever. I just had a
job where I was not sitting talking into a microphone.

(12:24):
All right, Myles actually hasn't moved from a seat since yesterday.
Not because I have a terrible stomach ake. Yeah. Also,
it's easier to be thin when the food is garbage, right,
when it's hollandaise on a banana. Yeah, my dad was like,
oh yeah, the secret food was terrible, poisonous. I lost
many friends. Kay. When what's a myth? What's something people

(12:46):
think it is true that you know to be false.
Here's a myth I found it. Comedians everywhere have started
putting on some very funny shows with teams relating to
getting comedians high. And I am a comedian who has
been stone with little interruption for approximately twenty four years,
often recruited for these shows, and just as an advocate

(13:09):
for comedians in general and for those who smoke the cannabis.
You kid, we don't work. You've got to get the
unsuspecting ones. You can't get me high enough for your
theory act weird. Yeah, the myth is that you can
get me high enough to be funnier on your show
than I would be if I was a regular kind
of high, and you can't. And I'm just the regular
kind of high. The crowd can get higher, other comics
can not me. I'm up here in the clouds. You're

(13:29):
all just joined me. I did a very fun show
in Seattle where I promised the crowd that I would
get high enough to explain my life philosophy. And I
will confess that I did, but I didn't do it
because I was don't. I promised just very workman like
about getting high, and yeah, popular concept even like when
I was producing video like it was like just add

(13:51):
weed to this format exactly, sort of thing of like, yeah,
just just get them high and do the show like that.
That is a myth I want to display. Adding weed
to your format isn't to help. It felt very specific
until you made it broader, and I appreciate that spelling
a myth that applied only to me. This is a
much broader myth, and I was something I wrestled with
the two trying to make videos like that, is that

(14:11):
you have to really be conscious of who it is
that smoking, because you could be someone like you or
I were, and they're like, maybe your eyes look different
or whatever, versus someone who's like smoked weed fifteen years ago,
was right, whoa, that's what they're looking for or that's
the illusion that they think happened. So that doesn't happen.
When you get the person who hasn't smoke weed and
fifteen years high, they are afraid and you need to

(14:33):
comfort them away from the camera in the microphone. They
need your care now when you do it. Yeah, I
think Jack Black maybe went on getting dug with high
once and got like too high, and allegedly it was
not entertaining. Everyone's like, okay, I'm dying of a heart
attack and you are as stone as you would have

(14:55):
been for the show anyway, Or you are making the
crowd concerned for a start, and that's not vibe you want.
Where you're an audience member at a comedy show and
you're like, oh my, are they okay? I got Jack?
Like seems like so much fun? Is he already? The
opposite of the feeling you're going forward to go to.
You want to go to laugh and be like, oh, ship,
so just acknowledge that your comedians are probably already high.

(15:16):
If they should be, listeners will be like, but you
guys just did that on because Miles and our guest
Josh smoked before, and it was purely ceremonial. Miles was
not different at all. It was just it was just
a way to honor the high holiday in the beginning.
Anything else, I just I pretended I wasn't as high

(15:36):
in the beginning. But I told Jack after, Its like
the first ten minutes I remember anything. I mean, I know,
I was talking and then I kept looking at Nick
in the control and be like, dude, no, he's gonna
bail me out and edit this. I sounded, yeah he did.
All your sentences were backwards. He yea reverse. The order
was very strange. All right, let's get into format. We

(15:56):
are trying to take a sample of the global slash
national share consciousness, what people are thinking and talking about
right now. Uh. So there are two tragedies that happened
in the past couple of days, uh, the waffle house
shooting on Sunday, I believe, and the Toronto van attack yesterday.
And I was just amazed today because I went to

(16:21):
the front of Drudge. I always like to check Grudge
to see what conservatives are freaking out about. And uh,
neither of those stories was anywhere on the front page
of Drudge nowhere, Like you couldn't find literally anything about it.
You could find stuff about Kanye, you know. They of
course they photoshop Trump's hair onto Kanye's head, so that's cool.

(16:45):
But this is like bread and butter of any time
a Western country has attacked, anytime there's a mass shooting,
it is everywhere. And I was trying to figure out,
like what happened? Where did these stories go? And I
think it must be that they just forgot about them.
I guess Jack, you know how to set yourself up

(17:05):
better than that. So the Toronto attack is being said
to not be terror related by the Canadian police who
are investigating it, when I think we're they calling it
not even an attack, like an accident or whatever, because
they were saying that the illness, Yeah, it was mentally ill,
I mean clearly like it was by definition he attacked people.
But yeah, I think in our minds when we hear

(17:25):
the word attack, we sort of instantly link it to
some sort of terrorism or something like that. But yeah,
it seemed very At first, I think everyone's reaction was like, oh, no,
another person in a car trying to hit pedestrians, And yeah,
I think the first idea was like, oh, this was
probably a terror attack. But then when we saw the
video of how this guy was apprehended, he was clearly
sort of definitely not well and seemed like he was

(17:47):
trying to induce the police into like shooting him. Uh.
I was really surprised at the restraint that the Toronto
police had because I'm from America, never seen restraint from police.
He would have been lit up like a Christmas tree
if he had done that ship in anywhere south of
the border. That's not a good thing, depending on what
he looked like. Right, yes, yes, for sure they're going

(18:10):
to talk about the waffle house. So I managed to
arrest the naked man in a coat with a gun thing, right,
So that's the other story, the waffle house shooting, not
on Drudge nowhere to be seen, not on the front
of bright part anywhere. Uh Jack, So what are the
facts that would make them mood? It would seem like
the story of the week for these sort of tabloid

(18:32):
ish news places, uh news outlets. It's a naked guy
going in with a trench coat and killing four people
and then being disarmed by a heroic, unarmed man who
just like rushes forward and is pure John McClain. He is, like, yes,
he is John McClain, distilled down to his like purest essence. Yeah,

(18:55):
perfect like late act too early act three essence, just
like this is this is who I am. Like he is.
He mistakenly thinks I would have done the same thing. Yeah,
hearing him talk, well again, but you betrayed the details. Jack.
It's because Drudge doesn't want to cover because it was
another white man with a a R fifteen and he

(19:16):
killed people of color. Oh that's that's not the kind
of ship he's trying to push on Drudge Report. And
the hero is also a person of color. Yeah, this dude,
and he's a fucking legit hero. This man. He even
was using his platform to push like this go fund
me pays that he had started for the families of
the victims of the shooters. At a eulogy, he was

(19:36):
just so adamant about saying, like I just did what
I felt I had to do, and it wasn't even
that I was thinking of other people. It was just
a reaction I had, so you know, like just being
so humble. It's really like, it's crazy to see something
like that and something like so much that like encapsulates
a definition of like a heroic act, broke act, and

(19:57):
even the response to it is not like pumping his
own dick up, being like, yeah, you know, I knew
I had to do something. Whatever. He's just like I
felt I had to do something. You can nominate a hero.
I forget what board does this, but there's a cool
like otherwise, like a reputable organization that gives sort of
hero grants at the end of every year where you
can nominate someone for a heroic act and there are
specific like specifics. It's the Carnegie Hero Fund. You can

(20:21):
actually nominate someone to be a hero as designated by
the fund. They have a definition of a hero. And
what I like about the waffle house dude, I should
know his name, James Shaw. Well done, James Shaw. I
bet he would agree he's not a hero by this definition,
and I love that that is such heart. The definition,
according to the Carnegie Hero Fund is a candidate for

(20:42):
the ward must be a civilian who voluntarily risks his
or her life to an extraordinary degree while saving or
attempting to save the life of another person. And I
love that this man has the perspective to know that
he wanted to survive, and the fact that others survived
is like a huge bonus. But he acted out of that,
or at least what I got out of what I

(21:02):
heard him say was it he acted to save himself
and it was no thought, just went in and did it.
I don't know. I moved by that perspective. I think
he's an awesome guy. He didn't need a gun. You
just need to be a good man. It's almost like
a Dunning Krueger effect of courage. It's like he's so
courageous he just assumes everybody else's Yeah. I mean obviously

(21:24):
I did that with anyone. It's like, yeah, yeah, like
you had no other agenda other than just fixing the situation. Obviously,
they describe it better, and I thought I could and
then just didn't. But it's like a self sacrificing act
where you know you put yourself at risk and there's
nothing to necessarily benefit you. And I heard him speak

(21:45):
and say that he just wanted to survive. And I
mean that motivation to put yourself I don't know you
I would want to survive to and I would be
fucking hiding, right. So what it takes to put yourself out,
you know, to act instead of to like not react,
which is probably what I would do. Take something heroic. Yeah,

(22:05):
that's huge, it's a big thing. When that fight or
flight came up, he said, fight fight. That takes something.
I don't know if I have it. I am thankfully
I have not been tested. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. Well
what's crazy is you know that the n r A
was really they had to figure out way to spend this,
you know, because they don't want to hear about a
good guy without a gun. Right, stop amazing, Right, yeah,
let's get the audio from So the n r A

(22:27):
covered this heroic act on their channel n r A TV,
but then they had a quibble with his decision to
go into a waffle house unarmed. Yeah, there would have
been many people dead inside that waffle house if it
wasn't for James Shaw. And now what's amazing to me
is that critics of the n r A or quick
to use James Shaw as some kind of a strange

(22:49):
example as to why guns aren't needed. I saw this
flying around Twitter and social media over the weekend. First off,
politicizing this event before it's even and over. Clearly that's
the new norm for the left. But I look at
Shaw as a hero, I say thank you, I say
may God bless him. And the fact is without a gun,

(23:11):
his bravery is even more impressive to me. He stopped
the crime. Yes, he saved lives. Yes, But to me,
the story still proves that if anyone had a gun there,
including James Shaw, the attack would be over. There would
be no man hunt going on right now. Instead, we
have a city on lockdown. What the fuck? They keep

(23:36):
pushing the goddamn goalposts back every fucking time, like, well, yeah,
he saved, but what about these lockdowns. He didn't stop
the lockdown, you know what I mean? Like, it's not
it was not enough. There's no lockdown, there's not a thing.
There's nobody closing your streets, like the Waffles on the
other side of town was still open. Yes, always stays over. Yeah,

(23:57):
that's exactly. They don't have locks. I do don't understand that.
I've never come anywhere close to being able. Usually I
can understand what somebody's trying to tell me when we
don't agree, and that whole thing that, like everyone in
that war should have been loaded. It's like yeah. And
also it's an important detail of the story that he
disarmed the guy, He got the gun away from him
and then threw it over the counter because he didn't

(24:20):
want to murder somebody, because that's just not where he was.
And they're like, see, he would have killed him if
he had the chance. It's such a separation from one
of our founding principles that makes this crazy experiment so magical.
We don't just get to kill each other because we
did a no. No, you can't just shoot someone because

(24:41):
they're carrying a gun. We really can't do that. We
have a mechanism, we have a whole machine that we
set up to handle this. The fact that we corrupted
it with private prisons and bad shit is our fault.
But the basic idea is that you throw the gun
and you tackle the guy. That sort of test the
principle you gotta deal with. There's no amount of guns

(25:01):
that fixes that. I cannot imagine the scenario that plays
out in a person with that perspective's mind. What they
see happening in that waffle house. Naked guy jacket, two
people shout outside, door flies open. Your reaction is to
for a loaded weapon you came to waffle house with
and then aim precisely among a screaming throng and running

(25:22):
people to hit you don't. Yeah, that's crazy, but I
guess yeah, because so many of these like opinions and
they have are conclusions that they come to so divorced
from the reality of the situation that it's easy to
just say, like reflectively, yeah, well, if there was a
gun there, then there'd be no Um. Well, let's see,
so he did stop the guy, so what's the next
worst thing, Well, there there will be no man hunt.
So it's the same ridiculous perspective that let's Trump say

(25:46):
that he would run into that building, uh to save
people even if he wasn't. Will never have to be
in that situation, and you've never been in that situation,
and you can't deal with the reality that, no, you weren't.
I just told you I wouldn't. It's not something proud of,
is the person who tackle a shooter. I'm not maybe
one of history's biggest cowards too. So yeah, I bet
he honestly believes that, all right, we're gonna take a
quick break. We'll be right back, and we're back, and

(26:18):
just real quick. We actually have late breaking news because
we're doing this a little earlier than normal. We just
had a story added to the dock by our writer
on the ground in Toronto, Mr jam McNabb. Uh. He
lives in Toronto, and he was pointing out that, uh,
you know, even though racists on Twitter were quick to
call the attack or a terrorist or a jehadist uh

(26:41):
and blame the city's Muslim population. Uh. People who looked
at his Facebook post before they were taken down found
that he had lauded Elliott Roger, the California shooter from
two thousand fourteen, who raged about a number of women
turning down his advances. He also used the word in else,
meaning involuntary cell abit. Uh. He said, quote the in

(27:04):
cell rebellion has already begun. We will overthrow all the
chads and Stacy's Tucker Carlson just had the hardest time
understanding how the government of Canada could say there was
quote no connection to a jihadi group. So this makes
a lot more sense because I was I was thinking.
Even if there was an absence of motive, even if
it was just mental illness, they would still speculate that

(27:27):
he was motivated by isis or could be they would
fill that motive in. They did that with the Vegas shooter,
for instance, because we like never figured out what he
was on about, and in this case, they just like
completely disappeared the story. And I think it's because his
politics were this sort of weird sort of men's rights
kind of ship of like blame women for their own

(27:49):
shittiness kind of mentality, which aligns perfectly with the all
right which is crazy though too, because chads are like
the handsome all the peak alt right mail. You could be.
So even the fact that he like, he's clearly so
on the insull side, that he can't look at anybody
who has like some kind of sex life or social life,
It's yeah, I don't think it's red and blue. That's

(28:10):
I don't think. I mean, I think they're taking a
different red pill blue pill situation. It's that is a
fascinating and so sad world, broken, lonely people. There's nothing
involuntary about your celibacy. You're what's involuntary is the self examination,

(28:30):
any changes that you would have to make to progress
as a person, to not get fucked dude, but to
connect with other humans on a physical and emotional level.
So you are not doing work, You're just not doing
the work. You're not doing the work, you get a
sandwich made for you. If you do the work, people
make you sandwiches because they love you. Sorry, I just

(28:51):
speaking of connecting or failing to connect with other human beings.
We wanted to talk about and you'll find out why
that is speaking of later on in a segment, But
we wanted to talk about narcissistic personality disorder. So why
is it? Because I'm here a year and a half
ago there there was a point during the two thousand

(29:11):
and sixteen election where Trump was really starting to become
like a major candidate, and it was at the same
time that Kanye was having some manner of breakdown. And
we did an episode of the Crack podcast just on
narcissistic personality disorder, basically comparing Kanye and Trump and basically
saying they seemed to have very similar interior lives with

(29:32):
basically being purely narcissistic creatures and Miles you last night
basically came to that exact same conclusion. Yes, on your own,
even though you accused me of of copying you. Yet
as I was having a fever dream, no, I just
I just realized that there are so many parallels because
you know, obviously, Kanye over the weekend was just tweeting

(29:55):
weird Ship. He said he like Canda Owe was just
he was basically clearly showing that he is in a
mindset of like that he was starting to philosophically align
with like the alt right. Not that literally he was,
but the names he was bringing up and the concepts
he was talking about were enough for the alt right
to immediately jump and be like, oh, we're claiming Kanye um.
And so that had everyone confused, and a lot of

(30:15):
time I was like, man, like what the fund a
is he doing? Like is a promo for his album?
Because he's got an album coming out? Does he really
believe this? And then I was like watch exactly and like,
clearly Kendrick wins a Pulitzer, So now he's live tweeting
a book. I'm like, bro, that's not how you get it,
but anyway, and then I was like this whole love
of Trump, like it's been happening for a minute, and
then I was like, wait, let's think about it. They're

(30:37):
both terrible business people, Like I know, Kanye lost a
lot of money with his fashion line and ship like that.
Trump as we already know about how bad his business
practices are, like his properties have been total disasters. I remember,
like when the first couple of Yeasy fashion shows, people
were like this fashion shows a fucking joke, Like we
were wearing shoes that are like way too small. People
were falling over there wearing clothes that weren't even part
of the line of fundraising. Is tweeting at Marks Kerberg

(31:00):
and asking him for They both don't read their their
egos are both insanely fragile. They both have their fans
thinking they're playing four D chess. They're not, you know where.
Like so I was saying with Trump, you know, we've
talked about how for people who are not wealthy, Trump
is like this goddy version of wealth that some people

(31:21):
do aspire to because it's like it's so like you're like, oh,
that's called money, right, there's version of a rich guy,
right and exactly, and Kanye is like a not cool
person's version of the coolest man on Earth. Now, not
to say that every Kanye fan worships him because he's
so cool. A lot of people are Kindye fans because
of his music. There are also there's a very distinct
section of Kanye stands who dress exactly like him, where

(31:43):
he can do no wrong. Everything he does is a
god move. He's nine moves ahead from everyone, and again
that's because of the perception thing. So that's another very
similar thing. Uh. They were both flamed by Barack Obama.
I mean by flamed, I mean clearly Trump. We can
definitely point to Obama's words and definitely being a motivating
factor for him. But also I remember when Kanye took
the stage and did the whole like, oh, Beyonce had

(32:05):
the greatest album of all time thing to Taylor Swift,
Barack Obama was like he's a jackass, and I remember
that was like a big thing. And Kandie even talked
about how he was like I funk with Trump because
he's real and like I could meet with him. I
never heard from Obama. I can, I could never hear
back from Obama. So he's still very like kind of
salty about that. And they both are their masters of

(32:26):
medium manipulation and and getting what they need to out
of social media or just playing the paparazzi or the tabloids.
They know how to do it. And I was like, damn,
maybe we just need to start accepting the fact that
these two dudes are from the same fucking planet. Once
this happens to be black, the other happens to be white,
and one is just better at like what he does
as a musician than the other person. But aside from

(32:46):
everything else, they're so fucking similar that I'm like, can
I be mad at him? Because everything was there the
whole time? He's now retweeting Scott Adams, the Dilbert Guy. Yeah.
I think that this is another example of basically this
personality disorder that both all three of these men happen
to have, uh narcissism where you're like empty on the

(33:08):
inside and need to fill your emptiness with the adulation
of others, and and when people aren't paying attention to
you start panicking and you know, have to fill the
holing you're inside you with that is, with their attention.
And we see it, sorry with both in Trump and Kanye.
You see this, uh, the acceleration that they're trying to
fill a hole, but it's a it's not a whole.

(33:29):
It's like there's nothing, you can't put anything in it.
So as big as your world gets, you still feel
exactly the same way. Stay, yes, yeah, you're really hungry.
You're not. It's a horrible, horrible personality disorder to have.
You know, people who have it are way more likely
to commit suicide because you know, it's just there's no

(33:53):
deep happiness, there's no connection with other people. And I
just think that because of the way that our society
and you know, social media and our media landscape have evolved,
this just happens to be just accidentally, people with this
personality disorder basically have the Konami code to our society.

(34:13):
They just accidentally are now like perfectly built for this.
Like Trump just is perfectly built. His personality disorder makes
him constantly tweet and constantly like draw attention to himself
and just need to stand the headlines. Uh, Kanye is
the same way. Like the thing that made him probably
the most famous was when he did that thing with

(34:34):
Taylor Swift and like very everybody in his name. Yeah,
I mean they are benefiting from the fact that you know,
all publicity is good publicity, not because they're playing four
D chess, but because they happen to have this personality disorder.
That is just the Konami code of our modern society. Yeah,
but it's only a code if your player then gets

(34:55):
to go in and destroy the entire game. Like it's
not like you beat a game, you ruin it. You're
not playing it anymore. Uh. And that's what makes yes,
I think, And it's amazing to watch it play out
in government because the whole way that that life perspective works,

(35:15):
I mean, mental disorder combined with like kind of loving
the effects of it watching a Trump storm happen, like
when that kind of thing seeps its way into government,
when you have a Trump doing that, Like the game
is important, you actually have to play it. There's a
reason we built it that way. So we're watching this
dude just like try to game the system by not
playing the game. And I'm my I'm not I make

(35:37):
my own rule, and it doesn't work. It's not working
from a fundamental governing level. It doesn't work. And I think,
like in the Kanye case, like I'm fashion, I'm gonna
make fashion. No a fashion shows choose it are the
right size and like a staff that has water bottles
in the back for everybody because they're thirsty, and like,
you know a venue that you rented proper people pass

(35:58):
out on Governor's Island. Yeah, that's probably a bad idea.
It's the Yeah. So for people who aren't aware of
who Scott Adams is, he's the dude who created Dilbert
and he has become sort of the spokesperson for basically
this type of person. He was onto Trump immediately that
he was going to be a success. He was like,
he sees through the matrix basically like I do, and

(36:20):
so reading his analysis. So he did a video like
a live stream on Twitter where he was basically giving
us his analysis of why Kanye is the man and
like why he fits within this Trumpian worldview and it's
basically a purely like will to power type thing idea
of success and ethics. You're like, right, if you're affecting

(36:42):
reality and not being controlled by other people. Uh, But
the problem with it is that you are viewing other
people as objects and so you never make a connection
with other people. And that's a great way to go insane,
like Nietzsche went crazy. Uh, Scott Adams, who is this
guy who like speaks to people like he has figured

(37:04):
out the world and like knows how to levitate. Actually,
at a certain point, uh, like after Dilbert became hugely successful,
he stopped being able to speak to people. I mean
like he was medically unable to. Yeah, like psychologically unable to.
Like doctors examined his vocal cords. They were like, what's happening?
And it was just a mental condition, And it seems

(37:26):
like it's this spasm of like not being able to
connect with other people. He could speak to a crowd,
he could speak like in front of a crowd, he
could speak in the mirror to himself, he couldn't speak
in conversation to other people. And then like he eventually
like figured out how to get out of this trap
that he was in. But that's something I'm reading a

(37:47):
book right now about how human interaction and relationships are
actually a huge part of mental health. And all of
these guys seem to have this model of the world
where you can't connect with other people because that like
makes you too vulnerable and so uh And that's becoming
more and more like psychiatric theories are emerging that This
is like a big reason for depression and anxiety is

(38:09):
like not actually being able to connect with people. The
harder that the like personality types like that push and
the farther they go and rise. I mean, this is simplistic,
and maybe I'm just empathizing the wrong way, But the
more I see just like the saddest kid inside, Like
you know, it's like there's a defining moment somewhere between

(38:30):
like five and eight years old where like you needed
something that hug, that comfort, that moment, that connection. It
didn't happen, it was It's like a neural pathway or
a synapse or something that just won't ever turn correct again,
and you spend your life thirsty, uh for this need.
I think that it's nature or nurture. I think there

(38:51):
are people who are genuinely born with narcissistic personality disorder,
and I think there's also people who are formed early
that just can't it out of these traps wherein you
cannot connect with others. You know, there's bars between you
and other people. You put them there, You can take
them out, but it takes a lot of work, and
not everybody has the help and resources to do that.

(39:11):
But especially with Trump, Like I just see a whiny,
angry kid, like there's it's like a tantrum and a supermarket.
You're still five years old, but your body is just
turning over right. It looks weird, and all you want
is for us to pick you up and hug you.
But the closer we get, the more you're gonna make
it hard for us, because you want it to be
as hard as it can to like you, like you know,

(39:34):
it's just the like you know, no, you don't like me, Yes,
I do know. I'm gonna make it even more impossible
for you to like. No, we still like race against
I don't understand it. And sometimes it feels crazy cool
art and Kanye makes great albums, and then Kanye is
still and he's like and he does it like this,
and then he doesn't realize how dangerous it is that

(39:56):
if he's maybe doesn't understand what Candice Owns is really about,
because clearly that you know they were saying it was
based off this video where she was speaking at U
c l A, just talking about like black people have
a mentality of victimization, where some people are dead set
on victimizing themselves by looking at the past and not
looking towards the future or whatever. And Kanye, I think
something resonated with that with him, where I think he

(40:18):
just saw it as like is it a victor mentality
or victim mentality and he's like, that's why I'm trying
to break the code or whatever, but not realizing people
who are talking about the past. As people of color,
we don't bring up the past because we're whining about it,
like we're not trying to put in the work, or
we like that there's no progress. We have to acknowledge
that the system is set up this way. So we

(40:38):
have to acknowledge the imbalance because unfortunately, white people are
the only people that can balance the scale of equality
in this country because black people are not at the
levers to actually right the ship. So when we bring
this stuff up, like how there's income inequality or the
incarceration rates are completely lopsided, it's not because we're like
when when when it's like we need y'all to help
us out do something, is not a victim thing. If

(41:01):
you want us to pull ourselves up by the bootstratch,
you have to acknowledge that we might not even playing
the game at a level playing field from the beginning
for Kanye to do this, He's giving all these people
on the alt right. They're saying like, because they love
a person of color that will just cross paths with
them that they can use to be like, see this
is our attack dog now against this way of thinking

(41:22):
or this kind of discourse and be like, well, Kanye thinks, yeah,
you gotta come out of this victim mentality and the
irony is I am a white woman the most victimy
culture of all, Like see you want to victor or
like victim comes down to like how you respond when
someone gets your Starbucks order wrong, like you said it
that recognizing historical inequities is so different from taking on

(41:45):
the personality of being the eternal victim. And if it
was the same, like Donald Trump thinks he's in a
witch hunt, Are you sucking, crazier leader of the free world,
You just still have to be the victim. You have
to be like Kanye is like writing a book on Twitter,
but someone else achieves something. He's in this full panic.

(42:05):
It's just a weird victor or victim is yours that's
in your noggain, that doesn't that can be informed by
your historical circumstances. I'm sure, but it has nothing to
do with recognizing history in your place and it is
up to you. Kanye stealing an award from some other
lady because he thinks some other ladies should have won it, Like, honey,

(42:26):
you have problems. Was feeling like a victim even when
things aren't happening to you, And maybe that's Kindie realizing this,
and he's trying to switch that. He's like, man, maybe
I am self victimized on the time. Maybe I need
to switch my perspective. And I don't know, like you know,
many people are trying to rationalize. Well, he doesn't get
what he's actually saying, but he's playing I don't know.

(42:47):
I think really we might have to acknowledge the fact
that he's just an ignorant person. And we've had this
problem with our celebrity worship in this country that we
just think because you're celebrity, there's no way you could
be ignorant or completely fucked up. Why would you be celebrity?
You know what I mean that? Why would I worship you? Yeah,
you know you're a celebrity, because clearly celebrities only get
there because like they're I don't know if people think

(43:09):
like process though, where it's like, well, the people who
are celebrities that have millions of followers, they're not problematic,
so you can take whatever they say as gospel. Isn't
that kind of a crazy thing about Trump though? When
we I mean, the joke is like, well, I got
to anybody can be president. Like I think we do
move through the world assuming they're gatekeepers, and I think
that it takes part of a there's something nice about
having a screw loose. That's like I'm just walking right

(43:31):
through this gate, and you know, the rest of us
in the flox sheep are standing around like could you
just walk through the gate? Do you see him just
walk through? You? Like, walk through the gate? There wasn't
somebody by the gate. You have to have like that
lunatic confidence to just do it. Walk by. It helps
you don't have to Well, this is the same reason
why the Vikings were so effective when they stepped on

(43:52):
the scene in Europe, because they would pull up to
churches and there'll be monks there and they have all
this gold inside, and the Vikings are like, okay, taken that, yeah,
where other people like, well no, that's the church, we
wouldn't dare still from the church. The Vike is like,
I don't know what the churches because I see a
bunch of weak as monks and a ton of gold.
I got just sucking act. Pull up and I'm gonna

(44:13):
take your ship. And that's the kind of the same
thing of like, these people are coming into a world
where the rules they don't even they don't even see
the structure, and they're like, nope, I want that. Oh
there's rules and not that I know of. Yeah, And
it's kind of this perfect storm where their success is
fed by this problem they have. But the more success
they get, the less likely they are to admit that

(44:36):
they have the problem and that their success is, you know,
based on basically being lucky enough to have the right
personality defect for the time in which they were born
and having it be profitable to others instead of costly
to others, because the reality is, if people weren't profiting,
if Mike Cohne didn't need to wash Ukrainian mob money,
Donald Trump would be bankrupt and living in a hotel

(44:58):
not like the basement of his old hotel. Like, if
you know people around you can benefit from this mania like,
you know, it depends on where the wind blows, because
otherwise you're like, you don't have any help or care
and you're a naked in cell shooting up a waffle house.
I see a straight line between the two, and that

(45:18):
line is whether or not you're profitable or costly. Right,
all right, we're gonna take a quick break. We'll be
right back, and we're back. Uh. I never left, But
we wanted to continue with Trump's mental illness because there

(45:41):
was an article in the Washington Posts in the past
week from the former reporter who wrote the Forbes four
hundred list back in the early eighties who first put
Trump on the list of the four dred richest people
in America. And the first time that he put Trump

(46:01):
on the list was because he got a call from
a Trump employee named John Barron. Uh we're gonna listen
to audio from that call. Uh so, yeah, I mean
listened to our mentally whatever it needs to be. Something
whenever you hear there's a call from anyone named John
is always drub I love John Barron because John rich

(46:26):
guy would have been when he talked about when you
talked about Marla Maples. What was it when he's talking
to a tabloid. He is a name John something too.
He pretended to be Marlo Mabels. He was like, hey, Marlo, Yeah,
good at sex. And then he was like, yes, You're
the best I've ever had and I'm not impotent. The
New York Post knew that that would sell the ship

(46:48):
out of a newspaper printed it. But anyways, so here
is audio of the call that got Donald Trump to
be known as a rich person. This is two. This
is when people started to think that he was rich. Well,
let me let me tell you that the deal is
just to understand the Trump But first of all, most

(47:08):
of the assets have been consolidated to Mr Trump, you know,
because you have down Fred Trump and I'd like to
talk to you after record if I can just to
make your thing easier. Yeah, that's all right, But I
think you can really use Donald Trump now and you
can just consolidate. I think last year somebody showed me
the auticle and I think you had two hundred and
two hundred and really it's been pretty well consolidated now
for the most part. As I also think somebody had

(47:30):
mentioned that you had asked about that, or somebody had
and it's been pretty well consolidated. Okay, so that's one
point that you can does does Sessions make many nation decisions?
I'm sure he's he's the he's the chairman, Donald's the president,
and and Fred Trump is active. He said, he's an
excellent guy. And you know how they're very close to

(47:52):
the relationship and the two is, as you know, very close,
as you've heard or now or perhaps you don't know,
but uh, they're they're business too. So he's basically saying
they've consolidated all the power under Donald and you know
that he basically owns the company at this point, which
was not true. Uh. He actually at that time was

(48:16):
worth roughly five million dollars, but they included him on
the list at one million dollars. Uh, because it's consolidated, right,
because it's all consolidated. And apparently the rule for convincing
a Forbes reporter of something is just to say it's
been consolidated, like five times. Also, that dude fucked up
by putting him on the list. If he was like,

(48:37):
well I got this call, I mean, so then to
put him on here. So it's also like we were
talking about how sad Trump is when you really look
at him from just like a psychological perspective. This is
a guy who's on the phone with someone pretending to
be someone else, talking about how close his dad is
to him and how much his dad likes him. Weren't
they not close? I think he they were okay, but

(48:58):
it's just a weird. I think his dad was a
real hardass. Just to underline that, he's like, I mean,
they're so close. I mean, you'd think it was like
a like a fifties comedy they go on vacation together. Yeah,
it's like leave it to beaver. Can you imagine like
you'd have to be an empty show to be able
to pick up that phone pretending Miles calling you? So

(49:18):
I gotta listen, hot guest for your pot. Look, really
know what you guys are doing day. I really like
the moves you're making. I want to recommend this is
not me. This is definitely like you are not talking
to Caitlyn gil That is my I am a representative.
My name is My name is Cary Bradd. My name
is Cala. Thank you for taking my listen. I am

(49:41):
a fabulous client. She is just tremendous. She's huge, and
I mean literally she has six ft one to twenty.
She's bringing it down. Don't worry about the numbers, but
those are consolidated numbers. Now listen, what I need you
to know is that Caitlin is literally the funniest person alive.
You name a comedian, Okay, they're probably better and more famous. Look, look, look.
What you don't know yet is you don't have Caitlin

(50:03):
on the list. You don't have her own up. I
am definitely not Caitlin. I am the funniest person in
the world. It's just that's when I go, yo, Jack,
Caitlin just called no, no, no, no, no, you hear
like from a dead zone. No it's not I'm not.
Your podcast listeners are so engaged. Come on, shout out

(50:26):
to the night Gang. It's just the saddest Yeah alright, yeah,
to take yourself there, because it does remind you. Like you,
we all grew up with kids in school who would
just lie, yeah, oh a hundred percent about the weirdest
I'd been stuff my family had, sex, things I had

(50:47):
definitely not even heard of before. Like I absolutely lied
to make a work more interesting than my own. And
then I realized that I make my world didn't right,
and then you grow. But then you start seeing some
of those kids don't get past, and then they still
do and you're like, oh shit, like you really telling
people you're a fashion designer, like like I have friends
who are still on. Then I'm like, bro, you're wearing

(51:07):
a woman's jacket and you'll be like, no, this is
like a new style like fashion, well at the good Will?
Yeah okay, And then I was just like but then
you start realizing you're like, man, like, I guess it
was different, Like you know, as a kid, you say
ship like you say to make your own life interesting
to yourself or for your perception of you to other people.
But then after a while you realize, oh, I have

(51:28):
more control over this. I can take agency in my
life whatever. And then you see the other people who
have just relied on that for so long that they
really have just completely, you know, diluted themselves into being
a place like that. But you just have to have
such an empty, sucking wound where a soul would be
to just be that desperate. That's something in there the
Forbes four list, Like that's he needed it, Like it

(51:51):
was like he was holding his breath and until he
got on the Forbes four hundred list. He couldn't take
another breath, Like it was just desperation. Five million dollars earth, Like,
he's just sad he doesn't have a hundred million dollars.
But I can't imagine that getting a hundred million dollars
is going to satisfy that person. It just is. It's said,
I'm trying to find some kind of compassion because this

(52:14):
is obviously a sad person. Right. Uh, he's still responsible
for his actions now at what he does about that.
He used that hundred million dollar estimation of his wealth,
which was a lied to then start securing loans from
other people, because he was like, look at it. Look
for that. They got me mad a hundred millions. Can

(52:38):
you walk into a bank and just slap a Forbes
on a desk and be like this is better than
any formal record. Apparently, when he was trying to get
one of his casinos, Nick Stump superducers reminding us that yes,
there is a scene where they're talking about how they're
worried about how he's going to secure approval from the
Gambling Commission from his casinos, are like, well, are you
gonna get funding? He was just like I'm on the
Forbes list. Don't worry about I'm on the I can

(53:00):
get that. And that perception wasn't enough to just be like, oh, okay, right,
And then he managed to bankrupt a bunch of casinos,
which is so hard because that is just that is
a business where people walk in and give you their
money and walk out. But he managed to bankrupt them
because he didn't know how to actually handle money. He
just had a really bad personality disorder that caused him to,

(53:23):
you know, constantly just build himself up to other people.
His mouth literally writes checks that his ask like he
really that is how he works. It's a pyramid skain. Yeah,
but it's like it's not working and it is working
at the same time. Everything is a lie and he
lives in the stupid white house. I don't know what

(53:43):
to do. Like it's fascinating. Yeah, we're totally. It's been
such a pleasure having you as always. Uh, where can
people find you? Oh, they can find me a robot.
Caitlin on Twitter at Caitlin kill Comedy dot com and
slowly losing my mind on the street from Los Angeles.
Amazing prescription. I guess you know, I do have some
hot sunnies. Miles where can people find you and you're

(54:05):
hot sunnies? You can find me and my hot non
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well as the song that we ride out on miles
What are we riding out on? Two days? So this
is crazy. I was talking about this band called the
Lead Sisters or this Nigerian there these two twin sisters
that were making music in like the sixties to eighties. Uh,
And someone on Twitter is like, yo, play this track.
So I was actually going to do that today, but
a different song, not the one that I'm in on
Twitter hit me up about Sorry, I don't know your

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handle off the top of my head. But this uh
song is by the Lead Sisters and it is called
Life's Gone Down Low and they just have this like
low fi like post I love afro funk disco thing
going on. It's just it's bibby and they're like twins
and they're dope, like check out all their music. These
are the the Jado Sisters from Nigeria. We're gonna write

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out on that. We will be back tomorrow because it
is a daily podcast to talk to you guys. But
do you know, baby, lives gone I know, lives gone down. Yeah,

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life gone baby. I'm gonna listen to me. I don't
don't welcome to give a day and then it will
be some fundastancing. Lives gone down. Yeah, lives gone down. Yeah,
lives gone down, down, down down down. But it's not

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too late for me and you. If we harry, life's
gone down. Yeah, lies gone down the Airlies gone down, down, down,
down down. So people get together the only way to

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be freak. Yeah, life's gonna get look a little bit
of one. I said, stop a look, oh yeah he's
heading for really here about life gone down? Yeah, lives
gone down. Yeahlie gone down down, down down down. Do

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you know, super maybe eyes gone down? Look, life's gone down.
I don't wiles how so unloaded? Eyes gone down? Look?
He eyes gone down? Maybe I've gonna listen to me.
I don't know, Yeah, what you do maybe and a

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little bit of understanding. Life's gone down look, Yeah, life
gone down. Yeah, life gone down, down, down, down down.
But it's not too late for me and you. If

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we hurry. Life's gone down, love their life's gone down. Yeah,
lives gone down, down, down, down down. So people get together. Ah,
the only way to the Yeah, life's gonna get to

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a standing stop a look. Yeah, money's said it for
the new the ever Lives gone Dona loa the yeahline
gone down, Birlines gone down, down down down, don lives
gone don look. Yeah, lies gone down, Plies gone down, Yeah,

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lies gone down. Up the air, lies gone down, lop
peline gone down. Look, pline gone down. Look. Peas gone