Highlights From ‘Fire and Fury,’ 2018 Movie Preview 1.5.18

In episode 58, Jack & Miles are joined by writer Amy Lam to discuss Justin Timberlake, Logan Paul being trash, a white supremacist trying to derail Amtrak, most anticipated films of 2018, 'bloidwatch, Michael Wolff's Fire & Fury, & more.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season twelve, episode four
of Dust Daily's Eight Guys for January five, two eighteen.
My name is Jack O'Brien ak Potatoes O'Brien. You gotta
get one in for two thousand eighteen. Uh, courtesy of
my friend Scotty. Apparently he noticed that there was a
dish called potatoes O'Brien back in high school and I
just totally forgot about that. And I'm joined by my

(00:21):
co host, Mr Miles Gray. It's right, it's your boy,
Miles a k A. Sitting on the docco the grave.
Thank you from Kevin Maloney on the grave on the
great but just you threw up there. It was yeah,
I thought I thought I heard a grade. Okay, well
you know I have people will go back and people

(00:42):
looking over that. And we are thrilled to be joined
in our third seat by the amazing writer, contributing editor
at Bitch Media and host of their podcast back Talk,
Amy Lamb. Hey, Hey, what's going on? Wilson High School's Finest? Yeah,
Hasena Heights in the represent We're just talking because l

(01:02):
A is so small. It's like where you from, Like
here were high school and then it turns out the
two people I know that Winter High School if she knows.
So it's a small world. Effam, Now that happens with
you all the time. Miles knows everybody, so does your girlfriends.
Like I've walked into so many rooms with Rosie and yeah, yeah,

(01:22):
like four people stand up. It's crazy, Amy, What's something
you've searched in the not too distant path that is
revealing about who you are as a human being? Um?
I has just just searched Zack kicking vine. Have you
guys seen this vine? Zack? Yeah, Zack kicking. He's sick.
This dude, he's kicking a lot, and his friends are

(01:42):
like taping him and they're all warning him, Zach, stop,
you're gonna get in trouble. And he's just walking around kicking.
And then like the last clip of this person supposedly
is have him like getting arrested, but like there's like
a whole cadra of like police officers with their guns drawn. Um,
and he has put up his hands because about to
get arrested. And I was just like, oh my god,

(02:02):
this guy really get arrested for kicking all day because
he's like literally walking around doing like these really terrible,
like the roundhouse kick kind of thing. Yeah, and just
like out in the open, right, and then people thought
he was insane. Yeah, I guess let's tell something about me.
Because I watched that, I was like, that's not possible
that he would get arrested for that, so I had
to like seek factual arrested. No. I think that people's

(02:24):
theories was that, like, um, somebody had seen that clip
of some guy getting arrested with cops with guns drawn,
and then they recreated the look of the guy getting
arrested exactly of him wearing like a black beanie and
a white T shirt and like jogger pants, So it
looks like this kid got arrested for walking around doing
so m truth seeker, That's what I'm trying to say.

(02:46):
It's like the least flexible karate kicks you've ever seen.
It is not menacing. It's like barely getting above his
knee level. He's so cute doing it too. Yeah, I'm
really glad you've brought that to our attention. Something you
think is overrated. I think staying hydrated is over Yes, yes,

(03:07):
it's too much of work. Yeah, I think I've just
been very dehydrated for maybe like two decades now because
I'm tired of saying hydraded and I think it works
for me a little bit. So this is actually a
thing that doctors will tell you that like the whole
like carrying a fucking jug of water around with you
everywhere you go is like ridiculous. And also focusing on

(03:30):
nine glasses of water every day is ridiculous because we
actually get most of those glasses of water in our food.
Our food has tons of water in it. So how
many glasses of water I need to supplement I don't know.
It depends on how wet the food is. That you're
eating a lot of water based like vegetables, Yeah, then
you probably don't need to drink more than like a
glass or two of water. I just threw my cup out.

(03:50):
He did. He just dumped it on Superproducer and that
was traumatic. Uh, that's a great overrage. How have you?
I can't get just because I think about all the
time I used to I had that app that like
would remind me, was it planting Nanny? No? No, it
was like hydrate. It was when for humans just to
drink water? This is this was for humans? It like

(04:11):
plant yeah, and it was like every time you drink
the water, you were like watering your plants, so you
didn't want to kill your plant. Did you think it
was a plant up until now? Why am my own trial?
I don't know. It was kind of like a you know, waiting,
What are those stupid little toys that used to have
and you used to take care of them. They were like, yeah,
it was like a tom and got you, but a
plant app And I tried doing it and I had

(04:33):
to peace so much. It really irritated me. And I
was like funk this point, and my plant like like
shriveled up and die. It was just too sad. I
think they're like some body builders or something that needed
more water than the rest of us. But like, I've
just stopped actively trying to drink more water, and I've
felt completely fine. And in some cases, like drinking too
much water makes you feel like kind of bloated and lazy,

(04:56):
but your fingernails keep breaking off. My fingernails do break
off often. My hair is crispy even when I get
red out of always so much like productivity time pink. Yeah,
it was like breaking up my day in such unproductive way.
So fun that. Yeah, I love that overrated. Miles is
not going to believe us, but I mean I'll try. Yeah,

(05:17):
I mean look barely drinking water. No, but like your
body is really good at telling you when you're thirsty.
That's the end of the day mechanism. I will down
like you know, eight glass of water comes. So yeah,
So I was thinking, you know, like that there's that
meme of that black dude who's like pointing out his
head like he's super safe. I was thinking, like, you
can't be dehydrated if you're always dehydrated, right, So that's

(05:41):
like my life. Jam. Now I'm like, I can't be dehydrated.
Haven't ready that roll safe me? Yes, can't be dehydrated
if you never been hydrated? Yes, exactly, thank you. What's
something that's underrated? So my underrated? I actually thought a
lot about this is I think tourist traps are really rated. Interesting. Yeah,

(06:01):
I just got back from a trip um like yesterday,
and I feel like tourist traps really serve a purpose
for people who are like inexperienced travelers, are like scared
to do certain things. Also, they support like a local
economy that's really reliant on you going to that specific
tourist trap. Can you give an example of a tourist
trap that you stopped at that you were like super
excited to have stopped there. Yeah, what is this based on?

(06:23):
So you just came back? Can we can we talk
about your trip? So break it down. So we were
just in this like small beach town um in southern
Thailand called an and it's super touristy, like I think
people who go there pretending it isn't. But I think
all of the economy there is to support tourism, like honestly,
but you know, I had a great time, and I'm
not going to talk about how like all the vendors

(06:43):
are selling whatnot. I to talk to it about it.
But they're they're all selling those stupid like balloon pants
with the elephant print on them, and I don't know
what the psychology is behind buying them, like because no
Taipe people are actually wearing them, Like you only wear
them if you're like a tourist mark, right, But good
for you them And now like a thie vendor made
money off of it. Yeah, like overcharged you. Crazy man.

(07:05):
My girlfriend so funny she came back from Thailand, guess
what I got some thie elephant pants. Yeah. But the
crazy thing is my thighs are like so thick that
I I sat Indian style blew the crotch out like
immediately because the threat they were not reinforced, probably, but
that's not that's not their fault. They don't know who's
going to wear the pants like nasty American people later on.

(07:25):
But that's funny because that was like the exact gift
I got where these things like these slim fit pants
are really exactly and like everyone else like man, these
like EMC hammer harem pants and I'm like, I wore
nothing besides hair and pants from like third grade the
fifth grade because I was such a big mc hammer.
Oh really yeah, that was who I was. Just you know,

(07:45):
I went on the two Legit to Quit tour sponsored
by PEPSI shout out to them. My dad used to
like take fixtures EMC Hammer and I thought it was
the coolest kid. But not many people at my school
thought EMC Hammer was that cool. So I was, yeah, well,
I lived in Dayton, Ohio, so that that was that
was is cool. No, No, just that that's how like
they that was wrap. That was like the edgiest wrap

(08:07):
that you got in day know how it was. You
can't touch this, But Dayton is actually like the home
of some of the greatest funk pans. Yeah, that's what
I've heard. Yes, I was not into the cutting edge
funk when I was eight years old, but I now
I know where you guys can get these pants. I
view want them, That's what I'm saying. And the thing
is that I also edit this other website called On
She Goes, and it's for a women of color and travel,

(08:29):
like the world the women of color and travel, and
so like, I'm often getting pieces of people trying to
like go off the beaten path or like do something
authentic or whatever. But it's like I get like the
need to do that. But you know, tourist traps serve
like a really good point, I think for certain types
of travelers and for the people who live there who
make a living off of it. Right, there's nothing like
inherently evil about a tourist trap because because for all

(08:51):
those reasons, like your money is I mean, unless it's
like a corporate tourist trap, or money is just going
to like some corporation that's stuck can play your money up.
But if it's like local vendors, mean even think of
Los Angeles like where we are now, like on Hollywood Boulevard,
it's a bunch of tourist traps shops selling you like
gear that says like I love Hollywood or whatever. But
like I think this is how these people survived. They're
not owned by preparations. So I'm like, go first, spend

(09:13):
your money there. I guess what you want to do,
no judgment. And there's nothing more authentic than where we
are right now because there is their toilets out on
the streets, you see crazy and a gun on me,
uh sort of, And yeah, we had to resuscitate someone,

(09:33):
not like using CPR, but like wake somebody up who's
passed out. It's a it's a cool neighborhood exactly. Um yeah.
And I feel like because people are all looking for
this like authentic experience now, like those authentic experiences become
their own tourist traps and the stuff that's just like

(09:54):
you're driving down the highway and it's like come to
miniature land or something where you your initial knee jerk
be is like, well I'm not going to go there
because that's like some bullshit. That's some guy built in
his backyard. It's actually going to be super cool and
sometimes you might get like a gem. Just walk around.
Don't be afraid to explore. That's all it was like.
But don't shame yourself into being like, well, I didn't

(10:16):
go to do the most authentic thing by your stupid pants. Yeah,
their pants, Bring them them to your partner, let them
blow them out. Blow them out first drive and then yeah,
and then start a whole debate where like she had
to hear them. That's my own I'll be my own podcast,
all right. We're trying to take a sample of the

(10:36):
ideas that are out there changing the world. We talked
about pop culture, the news, uh, and just trying to
take the general temperature of our global share consciousness miles
where we are. I mean, I think it's it's still
getting hot. The temperature is rising because fire and fury.
I mean, it is one of the greatest bits of
tabloid journalism I've ever seen, so and it's only getting hotter. Yeah,

(10:58):
we will be talking about that to some of the revelations,
if you can call you. We're going to balance out
our Bloyd Watch with some looks into fire and fury,
because it's like that sort of journalism. But we always
like to start out by asking our guest what is
a myth? What's something that that global shared consciousness believes

(11:21):
to be true amy that you have noticed or not
to be a myth? Well, I have two ones, like
more personal and I'll just keep it super brief and
maybe you've had other guests who have mentioned it. Um.
So the more personal one is there's this myth about
like Asian tiger moms, because I'm a child of refugee
immigrants who are ethnically Chinese but from Vietnam, and uh,

(11:44):
my parents were just very happy that I graduated college period.
Like they were just very happy for me to get
like a office desk job. Like there are a lot
of Asian parents that are working class who just are
happy that you finished school, yeah, and that you don't
have to be a lawyer or a doctor or anything.
And I think that like a lot of popular portrayals
of Asian parents are like these maniacal, like overdriven, like

(12:07):
crazy psycho parents who want their kids to do like
you're not the first chair of violin. My parents didn't
even want me to play instruments because they thought it
was a waste of time and money because they didn't
have any money. Um, So I just went to like
to spell this notion that like there are no such
things as like just boring regular old working class like
Asian American families where the parents just want you to
have a good job where you have health insurance and

(12:28):
air conditioning and to not live in their house anymore. No, actually,
my parents candidate because like they're old school. They wanted
me to live there till you got my mom. My
mom made it very easy for me to stay at
home for a long time. But she was like she
had like a half ass tiger mom thing like being Japanese,
like I had to play piano, you know, I had
to do like special math class. But then like as

(12:50):
I got older, like she, I think she was just
kind of like, all right, he seems like you figure
it out. I think she's like two's are more of
a tiger cup mom, and I just chilled up, what's
your second? Oh? My second? Myth is a more practical one. Um.
I think that in popular culture, we often talk about
credit cards like they're the worst thing ever, like they
take advantage of consumers. But you can take advantage of

(13:12):
credit cards. There's something called churning. There's an actual word
for it, like you know, like to turn like butter. Yeah,
and you can like play the credit card games like
earn points um and use those points to like travel um,
getting free hotels, days to do all kinds of random
ship that you don't have to pay money for exactly.
I'm not gonna do a whole workshop on this. I

(13:35):
don't even write about it. I just have read a
lot about you. You invited me to the seminar you're doing.
The reason why I've even mentioning this is because even
though I know hell is shit about credit card training,
I don't know anything about saving from retirement. And my
brother has like totally shamed me because I'm the oldest
and he's just like, what the fund are you going
to do when you're old? And like, I don't know,
like with one of you guys, He's like, no, you're

(13:58):
not living with any of us. So I'm actually inviting
somebody to teach me how to talk to my girlfriend,
she's really good at saving totally serious to can somebody
teach me how to like not be decrepit and destitute
when I'm finally being decrepit when I'm all but I'd
rather not be destitute because I'm too lazy to like

(14:20):
really work hard to take care of myself. And you
don't want to be like working fast food. No bro,
Oh my god, I have like soft hands. Although they
I have read that people who retire like early die younger,
and people who work into their old age actually live
longer because it like keeps you stimulated and active and

(14:42):
like have reason to you got clock in. They just
live long, miserable life. I'd rather die young, honestly, Like,
don't tell my parents what I would. Well, you're in
your twenties, you say that until you get a little
bit older. All right, Let's get into a couple of
the stories that people are talking about today. There's a

(15:03):
story that's kind of everywhere. Researchers have discovered two major
flaws in the world's computers, really how they communicate with
the cloud. And uh. This story is apparently going to
be around for like the next ten years because this
entire generation of computers and computer chips are compromised. But
so we'll probably get into it in detail a little

(15:25):
bit later. But I just wanted to flag it because
it's part of this broader vulnerability that I feel like
my entire adult life is sort of teetering on where
I don't speak this language that you know, all these
computers and computer programmers you know, built this world on,
and we just keep finding out like oh yeah, they

(15:47):
were just like making like sort of exploitable technology. And
then you know, before anybody found out, they just like
dumped all their stock, and I don't know, I'm feeling
less great about the tech sector. Yeah. Wait, what's this?
So there's like two right. One is like there's a specter.

(16:08):
One is called specter. The other one is called meltdown.
Yeah yeah, cool, ghost in a psychological meltdown, and it
has something to do with the computer chips themselves, So like, yeah,
those are in a lot of stuff. I believe they
see the meltdown flaw effects micro processors made by Intel,

(16:28):
which is funny because before Intel, you know, they made
that all this news public, the CEO dumped millions of stock. Basically,
so meltdown inspector allow hackers to steal the entire memory
contents of computers. Uh. This is a quote from a
New York Times article about it, including mobile devices personal
computers and servers running and so called cloud computer networks,

(16:52):
which is everything meltdown. Inspector sound like two busted down
American Gladiators. Well, Specter was a Bond villain, like the
agency that like was kind of running throughout the Bond franchise,
So that's probably where they're getting melt down. Is a
comic bookstore right there, you go. Um, we solved it, right,

(17:14):
So I don't know, like people who understand more about
the stuff like make me feel better, I guess, is
what I'm asking. Because this revelation and the Equifax revelation
last year, it's just like, yeah, no, everything you're doing
is totally exploitable and he's stolen, right, and it's all
in a language that not only don't you speak it,

(17:36):
you don't even like understand like what's up and down
in that in that universe, or at least I don't.
Um do you trust computers? I mean as much as
case anybody does. And I think the fun part is
that I feel like a lot of people kind of
don't even care. Yeah, they're always like the type of
people is like, well, I'm not doing anything illegal, so
who cares if you still my information? Right, Yeah, and

(17:58):
it's not a good at it you have, but I
think that we've been bred to have this attitude. So
it works out for everybody in the end because I'm
looking at like, well, my computers and melting down doesn't
affect mountain down right now, yeah, city specters in here.
I'm always deleting like my nuties super fast, so anywhere.
That's why I do sketches now. Um yeah, So I

(18:21):
don't know. We'll keep an eye on it. And another
piece of happy news, uh, police fatally shot eighty seven
people last year, which was up from two thousands sixteen. Um. So,
I don't know. I had personally assumed that when Obama,
during the Obama administration, they were passing all this body

(18:43):
camera stuff, that that was going to solve something. We
had a conversation with Darey McKesson before the break where
he was talking about how he was in Austin, UM
working with community activists to try and get legislation changed
so that the people had access to what the body
cameras are taking, because apparently that is the hitch and

(19:05):
the body camera thing is that you know, the body
cameras are a great idea in theory but the police
departments like get to control what like where the footage
goes and who gets to see it and how much
of it gets edited out. Um. So yeah, just to
make an art joke, those tapes are hard to get
them the cremaster cycle nice anyone with Matthew Barney later

(19:26):
that's York's ex husband as you can not get those
tapes bizarre art preference. But that was my first instinct. Yeah,
those were showing by my apartment in New York or um,
and I never saw them, so just right exactly, so

(19:46):
that was a good metaphor for today, all right. Uh,
and then just briefly, we have a correction on the
Jay Timberlake story. We were talking about how he was
about to release a rootsie single where he like stripped
everything down and you know that's what all the visuals

(20:06):
that he was releasing seemed to indicate. But he released
his single and it is like heavily funk inspired future funk,
future funk, which there's a a video released with the
song where he controls a robot with with sexy dancing.
Uh bizarro Steve Jobs kind of we weren't the only

(20:29):
ones who was taking that. There was going to be
like a weird like Jay Timberland Nebraska, pulling us because
that would look like a weird Abercrobie commercial. And then
suddenly he's like wearing the turtleneck on stage and like
the like the robot is like breaking and popping and locking. Yeah.
I think maybe one possibility is that this is the
song that sounds most like his previous work, and so

(20:52):
that's what the label is gonna want to release so
that people aren't like, don't get whiplash, um, or he
was trolling us. Well, Justified still my favorite album, so
we'll see ever. Yeah, you were saying that's your favorite album.
I have the tour dates tattoo on my back, the
strips Justified to her with Casina and justin all right,
we're gonna take a quick break. We will be right back,

(21:20):
and we're back. Um. So we wanted to talk a
little bit about the Logan Paul story, which has had
some updates since we last man. I just I just
want to talk about Logan Paul because hey, this man
is in my other country, Japan. My mom's Japanese, my
dad is black, if you guys haven't figured that out yet. Um.
And first he got in trouble because he went to

(21:40):
the suicide forest and he taped basically did the video
equivalent of poking to dead body with a stick, which
is already so taboo in Japan, Like suicide is like
a it's a very taboo thing. Death is a very
private thing. And a broadcast that ship, I'm fucking triggered
my g okay uh. And then I saw this other
video with him, like it's like, oh, just like Tokyo
was a playground, straight disrespecting Japanese culture. He's like walking

(22:03):
around the fucking octopus tentacle and like hitting ship and
like putting the fucking camera and people's cars and ship
in their faces. Japan does not play like that, okay.
Privacy is a very big issue. They went nuts, like
when like when they did a Google street view and
they thought the camera was too high because they could
kind of see over a fence even though nothing could
be seen. It's just a very private thing. And to
getting people's face with cameras an act of fool is wild.

(22:26):
And then like later on he's like, dude, I love Japan.
He's like they're so chill, like they just let me
be an idiot, Like these people even like laugh with
me sometimes at me. He's like, America can learn a lot.
It's like, no, motherfucker, you are so ignorant. They hate
your ass, and you are violating so many cultural norms
there for example, Like and I just wish people talked
about this more because this is what upset me. Also

(22:48):
because I think there's this idea that because Asian people
do not speak up a lot, because we're just sort
of culturally non confrontational. We're not here to bother people.
That's why people also when they go to Japan's like,
oh wow, everyone's so polite because yeah, we're not trying
to bother anyone, and no one bothers us back. And
that's how we maintain this, you know, homeostatus. But on
the inside, we are saying, yeah, we're like this motherfucker

(23:09):
doesn't shut up. And American people already act wild in
Asian countries like because they think, oh, the silence is
like consent or we're like, oh yeah, this is cool,
like we're co signing it. We're not logan, Paul, do
yourself favors, stay the funk out of Japan if I
catch you out there, bro, I don't even know I
think the other part that's super funked up is that
like for a guy like him, I think he's one

(23:32):
of those dudes that's just like any press is good press,
because there are a lot of people who didn't know
who he was until the suicide forest story came out,
and now they all know who he is, and it's
just like more exposure for his name for being in
disrespectful assele. But he's the type of like sociopath who
doesn't care that he that that's what he's being known for.
He's just glad that he's being known. Yeah, And I

(23:52):
mean his behavior is like unsurprising. I think we all
recognize that. Yeah. But I think it's just one of
those things where people often is it places like Japan
or like other Asian countries where you know, it's like
an amazing destination and you went to go there because
it's exotic and interesting and different, but then once you're there,
like you guys, like a lot of folks don't have
the right attitude about it. Yeah, And and I think

(24:14):
that there's like an American exceptionalism that we bring abroad.
I mean I do it. I'm I'm like, like, you know,
like both never let but I get that vibe from
both of you guys just walking around like culturally Americans,

(24:34):
I feel I feel that way, especially when I'm like
this so shitty to say, but when I'm like developing countries,
especially developing Asian countries, I'm always like, our bathrooms are better,
like our toilets are always cleaner, Like we always have
toilet paper in our bathrooms. Just dumb ship like that.
But I mean I feel it, and I'm like, I'm sensitive,
so I can't imagine. I mean, I kind of can't

(24:54):
imagine this, like brutish asshole dude going there and thinking
you can just walk around doing his Americans stick there
and getting and being okay with it because nobody's like
yelling in to stop. Yeah, it's shitty too because kids
are seeing that and they're only seeing the like people
kind of like smiling. Although there is a thing where
he's like a skige fish market and the dude is
basically in Japanese. They have been like, yo, you're feeling

(25:15):
yourself a little too much. It was like trying to
figure out what he's saying, and the guy's like, don't
be a fucking cocky dick. Yeah, it's kind of a
g moment. But even though he's like, oh cool, but
like people didn't think, like, you know, this tentacle bullsh
I'm like, I'm done with this ship anyway, his arm
around him. Get the funk out, bro, this is my homie.
Bro Yeah, Bro, I I got something for you. Anyway,

(25:38):
that guy. Um. There was also a story that didn't
get much attention, weirdly, where a white supremacist terrorist was
trying to blow up an Amtrak train. He's trying to
derail a train. He had this guy had all kinds
of agendas. Apparently this guy was he's from Missouri. But anyway,
he was on a train I think going from Sacramento St. Louis,

(26:00):
and one of the conductors felt like the train like
breaking and when he went to go look, this guy
was like at the controls of the train in the
back and like he was like he had a gun
on him and all this other ship. And he had
expressed before an interest in quote killing black people. Then
like the FBI like they checked his house. He had
all these guns and like they were they've noticed he

(26:22):
had been at the Unite the Right rally and was
part of like some neo Nazi group. Uh, and yeah,
I didn't hear much about it, and then when I
read it, I was like, what the funk is this?
It's like straight up white supremacists, like saying you were
black people. I'm trying to funk with trains. So it
is kind of wild that, like I know more about
the Logan pul story than I know about this dude,
right right, yeah exactly. I mean they're both disrespectful as

(26:44):
white dudes, But um, this guy actually tried to kill
people in the United States of America. Yeah, as as
part of an ideological attack that is like straight up terrorism.
If it was a different ideology that he was trying
to kill people in the name of, it would be
on the cover of newspapers. It would be all you
read about on Drudge Report. But because Drudge is a

(27:07):
racist asshole, and you know, a lot of our mainstream
media like that, this is one of the biggest places
that the mainstream media I don't I don't understand like
how something like this doesn't get coverage, but they will
cover like any attempted terror attacked by somebody who is brown.
Like if this guy was brown and still named Taylor Wilson.

(27:29):
I guess there's no brown person named Taylor Wilson, but
uh he's a redhead, so like you can't can't get
people to which is weird because most other terrorists will
just label as terrorists. But like the a lot of
the white people who could be Matt shootings, like you
know them by name, like you know their names like,
and they're like lone wolves. You know, they're not a
serious threat because they're all by themselves, even though they

(27:50):
belong to a white national movement. It consists of like
thousands of angry, sad white dudes, right and again, you know,
but he was charged with terrorism attacks and other violence
against railroad carriers and mass transportation systems, and yet white
people aren't banned from trains. I don't under where's the
train band? Alright? We we wanted to move on from

(28:11):
all that dark ship to get into movie stuff. Uh,
we've got the Golden Globes coming up this weekend. And
first of all, I think most people assume, or I've
heard people refer to the Hollywood foreign presses like this
mysterious body of like a few foreign journalists who you know,
are just liable to be bought off and uh, Miles,

(28:35):
you you know one of these journalists. Correct, Yes, I
I've you know, look, I'm an investigative journalists. Okay, man um,
I've been planning this story for many years, in so
far as that I got my mother to become part
of the Hollywood format. And now that I'm on the inside,
I'm going to bring it down. Uh. So you're going
to the Golden Globes? Yes? Uh? Like, okay, I guess

(28:56):
we'll have to. I guess we're gonna come out with
the news now. The dailies like Guys, was nominated because
the brand is you know, it's it's what's worlding around
and strong. Yes, as Jesus mer I will say, the
brand is fucking strong. Uh yeah, I'm gonna go this
weekend purely because of nepotism. Uh. And you know, we'll
see what kind of reporting I'll dig up. But it's
a fun night. It's it's it's what's crazy is that

(29:18):
all the actors and people who are there, they get
the drunkest because it's like a dinner and it's not
as big as like at the Oscars. You're sitting in
the theater just being like, okay, here's an award, here's
no word, whereas the Golden Globes there's dinner. Every time
there's a commercial break, everyone runs to the fucking bar
and then like just drinks as much as they can,
then gets back in the seat, like as the broadcast
is happening. Sometimes they'll just stay back there even as

(29:41):
the awards are happening, just so they can drink. It's
still having figured out like how to control the audio,
because you can just like hear the home getting louder
throughout the broadcast as people get drunker and drunker, And yeah,
it's fun. I'll be sitting in the way back, but
you probably won't see me, so but I have been. Yes,
how's the food? Food is actually pretty good. It's usually

(30:02):
like a Wolfgang Puck or someone doing the menu. Also,
lint chocolate is always there, so if you're a big
chocolate truffle fan, uh, this is the place for you.
And then after that's just like yeah, it's just it's
it's weird. I mean, like my girlfriendly wants to go,
so we're going just so she can have that little experience.
I'm kind of over it. I'm just being like a
local l a person just kind of little. It sounds

(30:24):
like dinner at a fancy mall. And then like nine,
there's like eight after parties. After like every single network
or studio or distributor has like an after party. But look,
that's boring stuff. I'm gonna try and take some voice
notes and maybe we can put a little piece together
come Monday. Um, and you're gonna get on that red carpet, right,

(30:45):
you said, take you better believe I'm on the red carpet.
I mean they have the long red carpet. What they'll
do is they'll stop the Pleaves or the Plebeians or
everyone to promounce that the HOI poloid if you will,
the REGs, REGOs, the REGOs, and then like you know,
one year, like Lupide and Yongo. I think it was
her first year being there. I got to walk by her.

(31:05):
I was on the stream, but I was pretending I
was visually impaired, and like my friend. My friend was
acting as my nurse, so I was like holding his
arm and he was like describing the scene for me,
and I'm just it's I'll try and upload that. It's ridiculous,
all right. We wanted to get into the upcoming movies
the most anticipated movies of two thousand eighteen, according to

(31:27):
Film School Rejects. Film school rejects are anticipating a lot
of movies. So this is the longest list we have
paired it down to ones that made me go oh yeah,
or or you know, anyone on the on the staff
had an interest and just overall, what what were you
guys impressions of the list, Like, are you more excited

(31:50):
about the year movies? Less excited based on I don't know.
I'm one of these people who like, I'm not really like,
I don't study the upcoming films list. I I typically
find out when everyone does, like the trailer comes out,
unless it's like a certain film, like obviously the Han
Solo movie, like I'm stoked for because who knows, although
there hasn't been one fucking trailer for it. I'm very

(32:10):
interested in that. But when I looked at like some
of the other lists, it seems like there's so many
remakes and close to any and like when you when
you pair that with the fact that seventeen had the
like lowest amount of tickets sold in like twenty five years,
and like so many sequels, so many sequels, Like what
are you gonna is this Is it gonna be better?
But I don't know. I mean there are books like

(32:31):
Ready Player one or Wrinkling Time. I look like they're
gonna cool. So I've heard Ready Player one is a
garbage book, but it's being made by Steven Spielberg, so
maybe it'll be good. Um, but a Wrinkling Time just
looks out and out like a dogs wild. Uh. Time
Magazine just like gave it its cover and was like,
this movie will change everything. It's gonna be the new

(32:52):
Wizard of Oz. But if you're not familiar with that,
Wrinkling Time was a book written in the sixties that
is one of the most banned books in American libraries,
right next to Catcher and the Ride because basically, the
only thing I could tell is because it has a
young female protagonist and the like Christian Church was not

(33:14):
down with that or something. Yeah, Rengulent Time was deemed
to be anti Christian because it you know, it's science
fiction slash fantasy and it has a female protagonist. So
the one too punch of an empowered woman thinking outside
the box. Get rid of that book, right. Um. It's
being directed by Ava du Verne and has just a

(33:37):
dope cast, so it should be a pretty good looks wild, yeah,
it really does. It looks completely insane, but then that
all sequels, right, another Avengers movie, Another Deadpool movie. Avengers
movie looks especially like uninteresting to me. Like the only
thing that they have that I haven't seen before is

(33:58):
a bad guy that looks like, uh, I don't know,
like a toy, like just like a giant like plastic toy.
He's like all rounded off and weird. At least, it
looks like they have nearly every single Marvel person who
had a film in there, so yeah, but they've all
been in movies before. Uh solo, I don't know. It

(34:19):
seems like so much stuff went wrong on the set there,
like movies where people are like, oh, things are going
wrong because the director is going over budget. That's a
type of things going wrong on the set that I
usually think can occasionally make good, things like Titanic and uh,
the Revenant was supposed to be a disaster, and like

(34:39):
these are all movies that basically they're supposed to be
disasters because directors have a very specific vision and like
won't stop shooting because the revenues, Like we're using natural light, right,
like so, whereas the problem with Solo is that the
directors had their own unique vision and then they got
fired halfway through and Kathryn Kennedy brought on Ron Howard,

(35:01):
who is very workman like, but I don't know if
he's gonna bring something like really original and imaginative to
the Scream. Incredibles too, is that the animated thing is incredible?
Is good? Incredible is really good. I never watched it either,
still feel bad. There's a new Wes Anderson movie. I
feel like Isle of Dogs. It's another it's like stop motion.

(35:23):
Have you ever seen Fantastic Musterie? Yeah? Yeah, that was
pretty good, right right, right? So this is like about
a jack right now, he's playing with them. This is
about a dystopian future in Japan where they send all
dogs to an island and like, somebody goes to rescue

(35:44):
their dog dogs go to island. Because the award for
worst reference title has already been taken up for two
thousand eighteen by uh, The Catcher is a spy That
is a type is the actual title of a actual
like movie that is not a spoof. Like as far
as I can tell, it's Paul Rudd starring as a

(36:07):
real life spy from like around World War two who
spied on the Nazis and they've called it the Catcher
is a spy and I supposed to be the Catcher
in the rye Yes, are you sure? Though? Yeah? I
don't know, but uh yeah so the face thinking about that,
I know, yeah, I thought it seems like he should have.

(36:30):
Is any aunt man too? Uh? Who's aunt Man? He
is aunt Man? Yes, so he's got another movie. He's
he's an aunt man spying on Nazis Mission Impossible six. Oh,
I haven't heard of that. I knew it was coming
because Tom Cruise sprained his ankle on that. Like that's
all you like, as much like new as you can

(36:52):
get out of a Mission Impossible movie at this point,
as Tom Cruise hurts himself while doing stunts. Now, there
are like some retra ed type movies or sequels or
whatever that at first you see what see the name
of the thing, and you're like, well, ship, that's unimaginative.
But then the people involved or whatever make it interesting.
Like they're doing a Predator remake, which I would say

(37:15):
does not need to happen, but it's being made by
Shane Black, who is the guy who you know invented
lethal weapon and uh wrote and directed Iron Man three.
Like he said, invented lethal weapon, he did well. He
wrote the script and like basically invented the buddy cop movie. Um,
this is funny because Ke and Michael Keys in it,
and when you look at the like the press photos,

(37:36):
it almost looks like a comedy just because he's in it.
Feel bad because he's trying to look cool, like he's
got a machine gun and everything. But like, I just
feel like he's about to do a voice in the movie.
I just can't because can peels like Satire was, Like
they always nailed all the details so well, right, Like
you can't see him in a serious thing without expecting

(37:57):
it to break after like two minutes. There's tomb there's
another tomb rater, which that could look cool, Alicia Vickender,
I'm nailing these pronounciations. Go on. There's still yet to
be a good video game movie though, so I don't
hold up hopefully that Metal Gear Solid movie will come out.

(38:19):
Um Oceans eight is coming out, Amy yeah into it, Yeah,
but I think that, um, there won't be enough Rihanna,
It'll be disappointing. In that way. Yeah, based off that
trailer looked like there was not much reality. I just
want to see Rihanna like star in a film. I
mean good for Sandy Willock and everybody else at all.
But um, if it could have just been led by her,

(38:41):
I would watch that over and over again. I would
actually go to a theater and watch it instead of
like waiting for it to come on. HBO, did your
wife Battleship? No? She in Battleship? Yeah? I heard that
she was. Yeah. Was she good in it? I mean
she was not, and she's like not really in it.
I mean she's in it, but I'm all care if
she's not good. I just want to see her, you
know what I mean? Who doesn't the like Award season movies,

(39:09):
Steve McQueen's next movies coming out, Widows, which could be dope.
Mary Poppins Returns is coming out on Christmas Day, but like,
come on, guys, keep like, let Mary Poppins live. Let
the original, Yeah, figure out the next Mary popp Is.
The new Mary Poppins Emily Blunt, which I just I
have feelings about. I don't know why. Yeah, I think
I she can do whatever she wants, like this is

(39:31):
her job is to be an actor or whatever. But
it just makes me feel like agitated for some reason.
You're hand like. I think that there's something about her
that it doesn't feel like Mary Poppins enough, Like she's
too young. I don't know if that's the thing I think.
I always thought Mary Poppins like an older I see
Jane Lynch play Mary Poppy. Yeah, that would be just

(39:53):
interesting to me. Anyway, We're not in development, so we'll
just shut then this podcast. First Man is the biopic
about Neil Armstrong, which is directed by Damien Chazelle. He
also directed Whiplash, which is a great movie, so we'll
see how that turns out. Um, all right, we're gonna

(40:13):
take a quick break. We'll be right back with bloyd Watch.
And we're back. So this bloyd Watch. You got our
normal uh rundown of the Blood's from our local news stand. Um,

(40:37):
and there wasn't a whole lot going on, miles. You
speculated that they were on Christmas break man. These stories
are weak as fun, like when Stefani and Blake Sheldon's
backyard wedding, No don't care like even like like the
real tabloys, like the Examiner. They're like their laziest fun.
They're digging up old Nostrodaminius predictions about how like Trump is.
I don't know, it doesn't make sense. Nothing makes sense anymore.

(41:00):
It makes sense. Um. We've talked before about how all
of these uh tabloids, for the most part, except for
I think The Examiner maybe is owned by this company
run by a guy named David Pecker, who is like
Trump's homie, and so, uh, you know, you see a
lot of pro Trump propaganda in there. And the National

(41:21):
Enquirer this week is the most clear that that has
ever been. It's like coming straight out of Trump's brain. Uh.
The cover of it is Megan caught an office cheating
scandal about Megan Kelly, who Trump obviously has his issues with.
When you dig into that story, it is like basically

(41:42):
the details that they have are that she was at
a law firm in her twenties with a guy who
got divorced for cheating. And that's it. That's it. Uh.
They tried they called her X and we're like, she
cheated on you, right, and he was like, no comment,
I'm not saying an exactly yeah. Um, and they like

(42:05):
go into a bunch of details about like their interaction
with her X that they're just digging so hard for
some detail about her and they don't have anything. Um.
And that just reminds a lot of like nuclear one, right, Benghazi, right,
you know, other people trying to create candles, right. Um.

(42:25):
And then there's a story, uh that I'm almost positive
Donald Trump wrote directly because the headline is nuke crazed
Kim signing own death warrant Kim Jong. Uh. And it's
it's just full of all these you know, quotes from
uh that they have a picture of Sumi Terry, who

(42:46):
is an actual CIA analyst who you know covers North Korea. UM,
and they've like quoted her throughout. But uh, it's clear
that like she wasn't speaking to them from in these quotes.
And so what they did to make it seem like
it belonged to an enquiry article is they just threw
an exclamation point on the end. So talking about Kim

(43:09):
Jong and she says Kim has consolidated power internally and
there are no signs of serious descent within the regime,
except they write it with an exclamation at the so
that it matches their tone. Uh, so yeah, the National
Enquirer and just this whole tabloid thing is is insane
and coming directly out of Trump's brain or doing their

(43:32):
best to sound like they're coming directly at Trump's. Sadly,
the best gossip wasn't even in the Bloyds this week.
It was in Fire and Fury. Yeah. Shout outs to
Ben Roberts on Twitter, who was like, so does Fire
and Fury book commentary count toward bloyd watch And guess what,
my man, it does because it's gossip and it's fucking
Jews say so, I felt like it's like reporting. You

(43:54):
guys think it's gossip. Well, the Michael Wolfe already has
like his issues with like bending the truth already, so
he like everyone who like when you read articles about
his work in the past, it always sort of leads
towards this thing where he likes the sensational. So but
then you also read many people like corroborating things. So
I'm just doing my thing where I'll get excited when
I read stuff, but I'm not gonna go like get

(44:16):
on a soapbox and like, well did you know that
this actually happened? It's just right. Trump has an entire
company that has been his mouthpiece for the past, like,
well two entire Companies's got Fox News, and then he's
got all these tabloids who are like saying whatever he
wants them to say. So now we have the other side,
which is somebody who spent a lot of time around

(44:36):
people in the White House saying some sensational stuff that
you know, people are able to corroborate, and like all
the Steve Bannon stuff, he's come out and kind of
tried to distance himself from his comments because I'm pretty
sure he was on stimulants and didn't remember saying any
of those things. But that's just totally my instinct and

(44:56):
has not been corroborated anywhere. But I he has not
denied any of the quotes that are on there. He's
just been like, well, I really respect the president, but
he won't be like and I never said he was
an idiot who was losing his mind. Um, but let's
hit some highlights before we get out of here. Miles.
There's a meeting on Air Force one that literally nobody

(45:18):
wants to be involved with. Uh. It's after the story
about the Trump Tower meeting broke that was potentially treasonoust
that Don Jr. Was at, and everybody was like, all right,
we just need to get ahead of this, come clean,
tell the truth about what happened. And Trump instead dictated
a statement where they said it was all about adoption,

(45:42):
and everyone was like Jesus Christ Man Like, so Ivanka,
according to the book, Avanka like took a sleeping pill
to like just get herself out of the situation. Um
like other people. His head legal counsel just said I'm
not touching this and then resigned after the flight. Um.

(46:03):
So yeah, like there's a lot of just people feeling helpless.
There are stories about Trump just telling the same story
over and over again, and people say, uh, like close
aids and White House aid say they've been tracking this.
In the beginning, it was like every twenty five or
thirty minutes you would get the same three stories repeated.

(46:24):
Now it's the same three stories in every ten minutes.
So that's terrifying. It's terrifying that like his own daughter
has to take a sleeping aid to like dissociate. She
can't even do it like on her own anymore. It
was a banka. It's kind of like a thing where
you know, when I'm in a bad space. I just like,
I just go somewhere else. Mentally I'm physically here, but

(46:46):
I can do it because I still have enough like
energy to But his own daughter is just like so tired.
She's like I need to be put asleep because I
can't even physically or just emotionally ill equipped to even
handle it. So you're like, oh, all chemically solve this, right,
I'll just literally hit myself over the hammer with an amby.
I don't like feeling sorry for any of the Trump's,
but now this it's weird, like when there are other
ones too. Were talking talking about Ivanka, how like their

(47:09):
people refer to her as Trump's real wife and as
Hope Hicks as his real daughter. Although and also they
talk about how allegedly he told Hicks that she was
quote the best piece of tail that Lewandowski will ever have,
referring to the rumored affair between Hicks and Lewandowski. Uh so,
you know, there's a lot of really interesting stuff. One

(47:31):
thing that really caught my eye was I saw this
in the Independent. Uh They're apparently like he was really
really picky about his bedroom and he wanted to have
a lock on the door. But the Secret Services like no, bro,
like obviously, like, we can't have you locked the door
in case anything happens. We have to be able to
get to you. And there's a quote brief standoff between

(47:52):
the President and the Secret Service. And then he also
had beef with the housekeepers because they kept picking up
his shirt and he ended it with a warning that quote,
if my shirt is on the floor, it's because I
wanted on the floor. Okay, that's which is nice because
you just don't want to own up to the fact
that you're sloppy, because that's what I would say as
a kid when my mom like, like I want that there.
It's like, no, I'm just a lazy piece of ship. Um.

(48:13):
Another one was that he really wanted that nobody touch anything,
especially his toothbrush, because again they're saying he is afraid
of being poisoned, which is part of why he likes
eating McDonald's because he knows McDonald's is not made by
humans and the food is prepared in advance, and so
couldn't include anything meant to kill him. Uh. And also
nobody can change his sheets without him saying so, and

(48:35):
he would take the old ones off himself. There's the bed,
you know what I mean, because that was like me.
I remember, like my mom will be like, oh, you
do your sheet laundry because I pissed the bed. I'm
putting it right in the fucking washing machine, and you
don't know what the funk happened in there. Yeah, and
see we're talking about five real bit. This is president,
Like you have all this staff, you like, I will

(48:57):
clean the sheets myself. Please do not come and I here,
do not see me, do not see my piece saints.
I didn't want to mention that I saw this thing,
um where it wasn't true, but I thought it was
true because our our fucking president is such a fucking maniac.
About how on his first day of his presidency he
demanded to have like an all guerrilla channel on his

(49:17):
TV set in his room, and the staff didn't understand
when he meant, so they like spiced together a bunch
of guerrilla documentaries so that he could watch it and
feel fulfilled. But then he was angry that, um, this
guerrilla channel didn't have enough guerrilla fighting. And I was
reading the whole graph thinking it was like totally completely true,
and so then the staff had to like spice together

(49:39):
clips of just guerrilla fights and then um the part
this is where I realized it wasn't true. Be it
said that he watched it for seventeen hours straight, and
I'm like, he doesn't have an attention span to watch
anything for seventeen hours straight, even Fox News. So that's
what I was like, Okay, this is not true. But
the fact that, like me, as a truth speaker who
wanted to know if Zach really got arrested for kicking,

(50:01):
believed that like this dude would be wanted a guerrilla channel,
it speaks a lot to like who he is, and
that a lot of people the thought it was real too.
I wasn't the only one who read this and thought
it was real. Yeah, there's a person on Twitter named
pixelated Boat or his handle his pixelated boat, and he
uh will like create these things that he claims her

(50:22):
excerpts and like presents them totally seriously. But yeah, they're
like a slow burn where you only get that it's
a joke, like once you get to the end. But yeah,
even as I'm hearing, I'm like, that's feasible, right, he
wanted he didn't have his guerrilla fights. Okay, on some
days I watched the Guerrilla channel for seventeen hours straight,
and Insider told me he kneels in front of the

(50:43):
TV with his face about four inches from the screen
and says encouraging things to the gorillas, like the way
you hit that other guerrilla was good, like possible, right,
like totally possible. Yeah, maybe this is this this goold
real life. That's the shittiest and scariest part. Yeah, there's

(51:04):
all sorts of other ship. There is the his technique
for sleeping with his friends wives, which he says makes
his life worth living. He will talk ship to his
friend's wife and be like, you know, I think your
husband is actually not who you think he is, And
then he will invite the friend over and leave his
line open, have the wife on the phone, and then

(51:26):
be like, hey, you've had better lays than your wife,
right you still Like yeah, just like dude, NonStop sexual
banter so that the wife can eavesdrop on her husband
being a creep and then he uses that as leverage
to sleep. But does he have time? I think this
is back in president Yeah, but I thought this was

(51:48):
like during his first hundred days in the office. Well,
but there I think a combination of stories from before
and after. So all right, that's gonna do it for
today's EPI, So Amy, thank you so much for joining us.
It was a pleasure. Where can people follow you? I
am Amy Adoisy on Twitter. It's a it's sound old

(52:11):
punk name I gave myself and I was a teenager.
It doesn't make it doesn't mean anything. I thought it
was like Amy a dozy, you would make like I
was really into pop punk and really into alliterations. And uh,
I was like on my phone on the phone with
one of my best friends when I was in high school,

(52:32):
and I was like, I need a punk name. He
muttered something and that's what I heard. So it's a
M y A d O y z I E. And
that's where I am on Twitter. Don't try to follow
me my Instagram because, um even though it's the same,
because I'm like private there, private life guys, where I'm
trying to find my lost love from anyone, funny Pat Dennis.

(52:55):
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(53:16):
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(53:38):
And that's gonna do it for today. We will be
back on Monday because it is a daily podcast, but
like not on the weekends. We need some time off again. Uh,
have a good one by