February 14, 2018 • 63 mins
In episode 85, Jack & Miles are joined by comedian Aisling Bea to discuss their favorite romantic comedies, Olympics coverage, Shaun White's past sexual harassment claims, sought after Iraqi phone numbers, politicians refusing PAC money, & more.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season eighteen, episode three
of DARE Daily Sights Geist for February four, Team Fountain's
Day two thousand eight. Team. My name is Jack O'Brien,
a K Gillac panther courtesy of cub one Fan three.
Uh pick a number cub one Fan three, and I'm
joined as always by my co host, Mr Miles Gray.
(00:23):
You know what, I'm gonna do you one better and
I'm gonna raise the stakes here because Cuble one Fan
three also give you with the a K, and I'm
going with the Gray panther because I'm Miles Gray. Low
hanging fruit, but an appropriate a K nonetheless, So thank
you just did the double. Cub one Fan three, Uh,
get another idea Cup one Fan three. Sorry, I'm being
so mean. Uh. And we are thrilled to be joined
(00:46):
in our third seat by the very funny comedian ashling d.
I'm great. It's Valentine's Day. I'm only be described as
a date. My describe as a podcast, but I'm taking
what i can get. To be honest, boys, Jackie, people
mentioning your child, which I think is odd for a date.
(01:09):
I'm coming a great day, that's right, we're recording this
extra early so I can get to my son's Valentine's
Day party. Said, I appreciate you all being here, and
you really have it's hard to get on that guest list. Yes,
that was very tough one. I thought a child marriage
was outlawded in America. But it's nice to say it's
still going strong, still having their meat and great, still
(01:32):
put it out there. Actually, what is something from your
search history that is revealing about who you are as
a human? Well, what is interesting is that I delete
all my search history on the weekly. Yeah, I have
this feeling I'm just very clumsy, and I know I'm
like always a day or away or two before someone
finds my stuff. So I just tend to, rather than
(01:55):
be more responsible, just to let my search history in
case someone finds it. But my last one from yesterday
was Unauthorized Rock Musical of Jurassic Park. And that is
an authorized musical that my friend is in and I
was looking for tickets last night to get them, and
so he's in in l a Jurassic Park musical. Well,
(02:18):
I'm just interested to know what the authorized Jurassic Park
musical is. If this is the unauthorized one. They have
to legally say that. So I'll be interested to see
what it's like going next Saturday. A very important film
for me and especially lends itself towards singing and dancing absolutely,
so I'm interested to see how that will be and
(02:39):
the twenty five years I think right ninety three is
when it came out. I just have to see this now. Yeah,
this sounds amazing, like because I'm picturing that there are
actors portraying the dinosaurs. What do you think that that
will be happening or yeah, I hope so I hope
the raptoring around on the stage. Yeah, the raptors will wrap.
I hope they haven't like found some amber and put
(02:59):
an entrough the amber into a mosquito and to recreate that,
because we also what happened last time when someone did
that for entertainment. So yeah, Muldoon with the Hunter guy
will do a number called Clever Girl. Yeah, I mean
maybe we're writing it right now, but just to know
(03:20):
for your friend, if he doesn't do that, that's very
low hanging fruit. What is something you think is underrated? Underrated?
Sandra Block? Yeah, yeah, I have long thought this. I
think she does not get what she deserves, and if
she's listening to the podcast, which I can only seem
she can because she also lives in America. I think
that you are an underrated actress and are wonderful and
(03:42):
can turn your hand to comedy and drama, Sandra, and
let no one tell you any different. And you're kind,
and you've aged beautifully without looking like you've got under
the knife, and you seem to be lovely off camera
as well, not that I've ever met you, but in
sort of backstage hangs, Miss congeniality still on my face,
evorite films. She was being an empowered, funny woman who
(04:04):
didn't have to be a mess. Was funny on her
own terms, even back then, and she had to act
just floating around with George Clooney for ages on her
own in a silly space suit which like it's harder
than you think, um in gravity or lack of gravity
as I called it. I've never heard of her. I'm
(04:25):
going to play along with your she's an actress, but
I will check her out. Yeah, she's a really new
kid on the block. I'm not surprised you haven't heard
of She was in that documentary you love Jack called speed. Yes,
yes about that terrible bus accident. That's why I moved
to l A because of that documentary. L Look what
(04:49):
does something? He takes the train overrated? I feel like,
again this might be controversial because I feel like tomorrow
will bump into him now or something. Tom Hiddleston that
is yeah, and I just don't get the like for me.
He A. Of course he's a handsome man, but handsome
in the same way all men from the town are,
(05:10):
you know, like, yeah, you've got tet Biologically it seems sound,
but like not like oh mad days, I'd be late
for that, like and then I'd be late for that.
And then when he does anytime he goes in a
chat show, he does his impressions, or anytime he does
an interview he does it like seven impressions where it's
(05:31):
like I'm showing who are you doing and all this
sort of stuff, and you're like, that's that's that's exactly
what boring people do on dates, you know, when someone
goes you know, I can do impressions and you're like,
O can you're really can you do play? Yeah, that's true,
that's problem. But also everyone does like if you if
(05:52):
you can do andy do frain impression. I don't care
because everyone can do that. That's like being able to
kind of remark drink water. Yeah, ain't in differing. I'm like, yeah,
everyone do that. Yeah, it's really good, brilliant. Or Christopher Walking, like,
I mean that's not yeah, that's not You're not clever.
(06:15):
So that is my And did you see him sing
Man in the Mirror and somewhere in Asia Christopher Walk? No,
not Christopher Walking, Tom Huddleston, Oh no, oh my god,
do yourselves a favor or actually maybe ruin your day
by watching He's like, yeah, okay, I suppose I suppose
I could sing you a song? Yeah, And then they
started really and then he goes, I'm going to make
(06:37):
a change, you know, really off like that sort of
I'm looking at the man in the mirror, you know,
really just slightly off, which is worse than completely all
oh is it was real dodgy territory, icy stuff. So
that's my terrible. But everyone was like, just could couldn't
(07:00):
And maybe that Taylor Swift co sign did it all.
Yeah I understand that, do you know what? He doesn't
come across as a bad man, it's not about his soul,
which I believe is good. It's just the overrated right.
If him and Sandra could combine their power and just
do their job, I feel like they both get what
they deserve. And it made him seem suspicious to me
(07:22):
that he diated Taylor Swift because I think she's like
an alien cyborg type thing, right, I don't. I think,
as she says, she gets all this old Taylor Swift
and Rex's but Ed Sheeran just talk us through his
day every single song, and everyone's like, oh, he's just
got so much rain song walk down the Road. Then
I met a girl, Yes, another girl and it's a
(07:43):
different song, but it's the same girl from the other song.
And then we had a peck are eyes and you're like,
oh God, but he doesn't get any bad flak. Al Right, Well,
I now dislike Tom Hilson a little bit more and
have a greater appreciation for this. And you call Sandral
have to check out, all right. We're trying to take
(08:05):
a sample of what people are thinking. You're talking about
today on Valentine's Day two, And the way we like
to open things up is by asking our guest, what
is a myth. What is something that you know that
people think is true that you know to be false. Well,
this is actually something that is straight off the press,
is hot off the pan. Just this morning when I
(08:27):
came in and I was talking to Miles about America.
And because it's you have an interesting accent. You're not
from California. Oh, I think, I am, okay, it's hard
for me. You are miles from the truth right now
here we go, my young man, Um, I am actually Irish. Yes,
And so when one comes to another country, when spots
(08:50):
the little intricacies of a place. And we were talking
about red cups at parties, and I always thought everyone
in America drank from red cups at parties, and it's
very exciting for foreign people to come here because we
see in the movies red cups of parties, and that's
how you know you're having a hashtag good time when
you have red cups. And you think that actually people
(09:12):
don't really drink red cups that much at parties, that
it's probably something movie people like producers are like, guys,
we need everyone to for continuity reasons, right, Yeah, solo cups, Yeah,
it's or they called solo cups Bland is called solo
but it's an odd name because what cups are like
conjoined cups? Like what you're like, Oh, can I have
(09:33):
a cup put on its own? Could you not give
me two cups? Yeah? Like, where does the idea of
solo cup? It's just I wish you could get to
the bottom of it. I don't know. It could have
been a very lonely man. That's like saying, solo hats?
Can I just have the one hat for my head? Yeah?
I was only going to give you one hat for
your head in the first place. Like, I'm not one
(09:53):
of those fancy cities all three hats. Johnny, I love
that guy, three man. He's from New York City, can
you um? I? I So apparently the rumor overseas is
that you go to any party in America and everybody's
gonna be holding solo cups. And the truth I'd say
(10:15):
in my experience is that it's more high school and
college parties usually sometimes and that's it. Yeah, I mean
I grew up. Every high school party I want to
it was probably solo cups or any party that has
like a keg usually you have, but there's a keg
of beer then you have the red solo cups or
you just have them because you go to Costco or wherever,
and they're typically like the most robust sort of heavy
(10:35):
duty cup you can use and pour a large quantity
of alcohol in without going like, but they're all redd.
Is a thing like blue cups. There are blue ones.
But for whatever reason I think you have films have
over many films have just created this shorthand. It's like,
you know, they just have to spend less time thinking
about it. It's just like everybody's funny that it becomes
(10:57):
such a myth that if you see like a party
in an other film from another country, they're probably just
drinking out of glasses, right because they're civilized. Yeah, and
we're wasteful consumers who are going to destroy the earth.
But I welcome to America. Also, as you were pointing out, Miles,
red cups means you can just have nothing in the cup.
If you're shooting a movie, you don't have to be like, hey,
(11:17):
does there have a liquid in their cup? Don't drink
it on this take like that. But that's what's interesting,
the myth of it that it's probably more to do
with um with with with art department, and so many
parties are in American movies, like so many teen movies,
and like frat that's sort of like we don't really have.
(11:38):
Of course, we have the college culture of going to parties,
but that sort of frat house fraternities doesn't exist in
outside of America. What was your experience, Like, what kind
of cups did you drink out of that party? Oh? Well,
I've actually trunk out of a numerous different types of
tips over the years. Guys. Actual, I'm gonna be like
Bubba Gump and Bubba and Forest Gump. Now, whereas like
(11:59):
a drawing got a big cups, small cups, plastic cups, glasses.
There is like kind of white plastic cups maybe, and
they'd be a lot smaller that sort of big beer cup.
We wouldn't actually have. But I just really like the
idea that it's not even just they seldom cheap and
(12:20):
everyone has the parties. That it's I really like your
idea Miles that like producers. First of all, it means
that everyone can drink, but you never have any drink
in it. You wouldn't see for continuity at going up
or down. I used to think it was red cups.
So then if the police came into the fat party,
we're like, you're all under twenty one, which is strange
for an age to start drinking at but stop drinking
(12:44):
and be like, no, my red cups right, well, you
do that just if you're drinking places you're not supposed to,
like the beach or whatever, then you have those so
they can't immediately say you're drinking and when they pull
up just slam that shs. In Ireland, cans as of
thing like having a can. Yeah, you wouldn't really get
a keg, you get a load of cans. So the
(13:05):
keg idea is quite kind of not again, we're excessive
and it's like, well we could drink seventy cans of beer,
which one is more wasteful, one big keg and plastic cups.
That is probably waste because the plastic or a load
of recycled the cans. Although I noticed in Ireland when
I was there that they pay a lot of attention
to the percentage of alcohol in the beer. Yes, they
(13:28):
so like that's the thing in America is just incidental,
but more water in Ireland they like basically if it
has a higher percentage of alcohol it'll cost a little
bit more because like it's more efficient at doing its job.
It's like a very it's not. No, it'll cost the
same basically like I P s will cost I mean,
(13:50):
think about malt liquor is cheaper than if you want
to I mean, which isn't. Technically you're so right though,
because we're like, oh, the value is the alcohol, right, take. Yeah,
that's what's getting that's what's doing the work. All right.
Because it's Valentine's Day, we wanted to talk real briefly
about romantic comedies, just about our love lives and just miles,
(14:15):
what's your favorite man with a lady? You know, you're
just kissing on your lady. You have a real life
girlfriend and she's like, I love best. She's like, looks
in your eyes and it's like I am your girlfriends. Yeah,
you know, all very believable stuff. So, you know, doing that,
we wanted to talk about romantic comedies. We wanted to
(14:38):
name some of our favorites or our favorite and maybe
least favorite romcom tropes. Uh so favorite romcom go Jack,
probably notting Hill or something about Mary if you let me,
if you allow it, it's not really and it's a
full blown comedy. Yeah, yeah, totally is about a guy
getting a girl. Yeah. And it's there's something about Mary. Yeah.
(15:02):
Absolutely a romantic comedy, isn't it. It doesn't mean there's
yeah see, And I've been saying that the whole time.
So that's my favorite least favorite love actually, even though
it's by the same guy, did notting Hill not a
big fan of love. Actually, what's your pick? What is
my pick? What is my pick? Oh? I love? I'm
(15:25):
not sure if you guys ever got it? Here? There's
an old Pride and Prejudice, not the Cure, A nightly one.
There's another one. It was the original one Colin Firth
became famous for. In it, there's a famous scene where
he gets out of the lake and it's like, oh,
grumpily shakes some water off of himself. And I always
like that one because afterwards you can't help but start
speaking exactly like this a Hill time. It's very hard
(15:47):
not to start speaking in English, and it's all about
manners and the sort of like looking at someone across
the crowded dance hall. But the dancing is really unenergetic
and sexy. It's just walking up, shaking your shoulders walking back,
and it's just that sort of like back in the
day dancing and it's it's all eyes and Mr Darcy,
do you think that for three pounds a year, I'm
(16:09):
going to marry someone? Like it's that's sort of yeah,
And I really like that sort of old They're doing
a lot with just their eyes and a few manners,
which I think it's very interesting and you still get
as much from it. Myles. Oh, I think one fine day?
What's one fine day again? One fine day is with
Michelle Peiffer and George Clooney where they're, you know, just
(16:30):
single parents trying to take their kids to daycare and
but they're also bouncing their their careers at the same time.
I don't know why do they do it? I think
I don't know. It could be nostalgia. Is like one
of the first dates I went on, like in sixth grade,
Like I took my sixth grade girlfriend to see and
I felt like an adult. This is one fine day
and it also made me think New York was the
(16:50):
coolest place ever. What is sixth grade? Agewise? What roughly
ar old twelve? You brought a girl to the cinema
smiles your little legendet coke and everything. Oh my god,
that's fairly advantis you know. I took an eighth grader
once when I was sixth grade to see bas Lerman's
Romeo and Juliet. Oh my god, so you know I'm
out here. Yeah, as they would say, that's too advanced.
(17:12):
That's almost child services, little suspicious of you. You know,
some say I was the original pickup artist. You know, Yeah,
who was that? Some who would say, mostly me in
a sort of drug adult like drug induced psychosis. But yes,
that is me when Harry met Sally. Can I throw
that into the mix? Yes? Yeah. Trope wise, though, it
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always starts off with some level of deception, like I'm
an undercover journalist or like I'm not a ship bag
or whatever, and then they're like, wait, I'm into deep relationship.
I guess yeah, that is true. At the beginning, you're like, no, man, well,
I'm really on top of my shift. In general, I
think the most misleading it's necessary for the purposes of
(17:58):
all romantic comedies, but the most misleading trope in romantic
comedies is that dating is like really hard and like
because dating is the easy part. If you're like in
a relationship with somebody who's like the one, whereas like,
you know, a successful relationship years down the road is difficult,
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but like dating is, they have to like throw all
these obstacles in the way of like people who are
in love with each other, like you know, a bet
or you know one of them being an undercover journalist
who is just doing research on them, or my other
least favorite trope is, uh that rape is a funny
(18:41):
prank like in Revenge of the Nerds and Wedding Crashers
when he ties him up. Yeah, he ties them up
and like has like yeah, he's like kissing on Vince Vaughan,
like the brother, right, isn't that Though there's loads of
well this is what happens with me to campaign, you go, no,
it never happened to me. Oh no, it has eighteen times.
(19:04):
You just sort of tend to go, it's so expected
this stuff that you andre at the time, it's like, well,
isn't it funny that a dude like tied up another
dude and was sort of like the vehicle that powered that,
And you start don't know it because you're like, oh, yeah,
this is awful. But the brother is involved at first
maybe I don't know exactly how it happens. Revenge of
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the Nerds, which is like this beloved eighties movie that
people have nostalgia for. The main character like misleads a
woman into thinking that he's her boyfriend and performs oral
sex on her. Oh my god, And that's like a guest.
And even the fact that it's called revenge of the yeah, exactly,
(19:49):
like revenge of any group of people on women is
not It is not great. When you start looking at
all these little things, you're like, no, God, we got
a lot of work to do, guys, we're still there
because we're living in revenge of the anti feminist internet user, right,
So that's what I mean. It's almost like that's gone
like that's gone darker now it's yeah, all right, well
(20:16):
what a weird All right, we'll be right back and
we're back. Uh. And So I don't know if you
guys watched the Olympics last night. I did my homework.
(20:38):
I tuned in because I wanted to see MICHAELA. Schiffrin.
She's this US athlete who you know, very young and
has like one golden slalom. What's her what's her sport? Slalom? Skiing.
She like, does you know the cutting back and forth? Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,
And she's supposedly great. Uh. The New York I did
(20:59):
a profile of her that was like pretty interesting and
like makes her seem like this like weird sports cyborg
who she likes still rooms with her mom when she's
on the road. Like she's like totally kind of socially
has has a singular focus, just like so singularly focused
that it's almost like she's not a full person. So
she's only seventeen, like dating from twelve. I think she's
(21:24):
twenty two at this point. MICHAELA. Schiffern She was I
think eighteen when she won the gold four years ago,
but I just did that math in my head. But anyways,
she people keep getting delayed because there's like such strong winds.
We talked about that before, like they're going to blow
the people off the side of the mountain, which wouldn't
be good. So, uh, that got delayed and I ended
(21:46):
up watching a lot of curling, which is a great
sport that I still don't know the rules of, but
it's a lot of fun to watch. Um. But uh
so before we get into the main event. Last night
at Shawn White winning the gold and the fallout from that.
We wanted to talk about a hot take from the
(22:07):
Barstool Sports guys yesterday responding to the previous night's big event,
Chloe Kim winning gold. Uh, this guy had an interesting take, right, Miles.
So the show is called dialed In with Dallas Brandon. Uh,
so you can imagine this is a safe space. Um
(22:27):
So anyway, this is them just chatting shit about Chloe
Kim and just their thoughts on the seventeen year old snowboarder.
I'm inspired by you. Yeah, Chloe Kim famous for writing
a very different board than Kim Kardashian's, no doubt, and
in fact, just to keep it on that tip her
her eighteenth birthday is April, and the countdown is on baby,
because I got my Waterson going, that's what I like
(22:49):
about them high school girls. I'm right there with you.
If she was eighteen, you wouldn't be ashamed to see
she's a little she's a little hot piece as she is. Yeah.
And then afterwards, Brodie Stevens is like, did you just
(23:09):
think a boner pill, peacon, boner pill, pecan pecan. I'm
right there with you, dude, keep it on that tip Jesus. Yeah.
So it's a show called Toxic Masculinity. That's the real
life version. Yeah. So I guess that guy had to
kind of walk his things back. You could hear the
actual host be like, all right, that's it, and he
was sort of like, don't do this on my show. Right,
(23:30):
So that guy, uh. Dead Spin wrote an article about
that little segment, and he responded on Twitter dead Spin
still a thing, and then thirteen hours later was like,
I deeply regret my comments about Chloe Kim, Chloe, you
are an inspiration and completely walked it back. But I
went to his blog and he is just so consistent
(23:52):
in his voice that I just want to read a
small part of his blog. So he's talking about how
he lives in George Town apparently, and he grew up
close by, and his dad has just asked him, how
has the neighborhood changed, and he says I thought about it,
and I told him, yeah, she's good. The neighborhood. Yeah,
(24:13):
the neighborhood, Yeah, she good. Funny because if you read
all the fancy editorials in the New York Times and
watch cable news shows, you think Henny Penny a k
Chicken Little had taken out a thirty five year mortgage
on a sweet pad at the corner of Prospect and
thirty feet. So yeah, d j T kicks it at
six hundred Pennsylvania and he's a weird mofo. But I
(24:37):
haven't heard one citizen of the district express fear or
share apocalyptic testament. Uh yeah, I just love dj T
kicks it at sixteen hundred, and he's a weird mofo.
Yeah you mean Donald Trump is the fucking president who's
a racist, big seen. Yeah whatever, he's a weird I'm
(24:58):
not really good at calling out other men, so let's
just leave it a You know what, what's good about
these situations is that is not some weird, one awful
little piece of language. And in the current time, if
what we do is pick up on these things, don't
hang them out to dry and ruin his life. But
in those little moments, go do you know what, Yeah,
(25:18):
stop taking an opportunity to learn. Hopefully other people will learn.
And now let's move on from this one. You know
like that that's another tiny microaggression. That's just But actually
we need to quotaize these situations as they come along.
Because that's how the world is going to change, I
think is with each of those situations. But those things
(25:40):
don't make me. I almost feel tired when I hear
those things, the reason being that's all the time, every day.
So for a lot of men hearing these things, you're like, what,
how could you say that? But you're like, that's walking
down the road. So I'm really glad someone said it
out loud and has been loombastad for it, because now
then other people might go, oh, better not say that.
(26:00):
Are better try and watch my language when I'm talking
about a sports person who's a kid, like he's a
young kid in an inspiration like just it's bordering on
Pede Felix, And it's like those things are so like
we were talking earlier on about just not seeing stuff,
you just get so tight. You just literally forget all
of those things that happened during the day. But it
builds up like sort of like if you don't wash
(26:23):
your hair for a week, but it feels like every
day with like that sort of stuff happening, You're like, God,
my hair is so greasy from greasy comments which you
sort of don't notice. It's slowly getting dirty. Yeah, I
need to wash. I guess I'm not super surprised by
this comment, just because I guess, like ten years ago,
wasn't the Olsen Twins turning eighteen like Britney Spear and
(26:45):
before it wasn't like yeah, it wasn't like a big whoe. Yeah,
And that's because that's I think that's where we're at now,
is like where you know, everyone has to act as
a collective correcting mechanism, just be like no, no, no,
but all times about culture makes things sexy or not
sex So you see that happening with when it used
to be voluptuous figures and during the nineties the sexy
(27:05):
gamein look was of figures because that was what we
put out on magazines and that's what every like, you
become sexualized by what you see. So my friend, actually
Sarah Pascoe, has a bit of stand up about how
you can make you can make people sexually attracted to
a boot if you constantly show pictures of boots between porn.
I never time you see a boot, it's like, oh, yeah,
(27:26):
that's that's all. Yeah, yeah, exactly. We're more Pavlovian than
we think. And so if we constantly sexualized children and
high schooled kids, and that sort of idea rather than
say women women, sexy women, the idea of a full bodied,
grown ass woman being sexual, rather than kind of trying
to make everyone look young and like babies, Like even
(27:47):
a lot of the models we see on TV and
in magazines they look like babies, and then eventually you
think babies are sexy. Like that's kind of what we're doing.
And so what we have to also do is take
responsibility for our advertising, what we buy, what we sell,
who we put on, even shows like Riverdale that are
sort of like glorifying relationships with students, like when do
(28:08):
we start? Actually also the casting of people like say
um Kate what's her name, Tom Cruise of the Alien
Scientology movement, and Katie Holmes. She was one of the
youngest cast members of Dawson's Creek and everyone else was
fifty two. But it was actually really important to have
fifty two year old experienced actors being teenagers because we
just need to see the story. We don't actually need
(28:29):
people to be eleven the show. And now you see
actors getting younger and younger in a lot of those
teen dramas, and they're being cast at fourteen and you're like, yeah,
so you're putting teenagers with sexual stories. We're also using
actors who sort of don't know their own sexuality yet
in these shows, and it's constantly sexualizing children. When you're like,
we just need to know the story. It can be
played by twenty two year old you know. So I
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guess we could view this progress that Yeah, well, I
think I think you have to. I think you have
to see all of these moments. Is because it's not
moving backwards, because that would be absolutely naive because that's
exactly like, no, no, no no, no. What I mean is
that would be saying this is already there. This is
not something coming out. This is probably being said four
months ago on radio and people would have laughed years ago.
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No, no no, no, but four months ago but before the
me to campaign, are probably only being woked away and going, oh,
we should actually say something now where this person can
lose their job for their words. Yeah. So this is
very it's new that we are caring so much. It's
brand new, it's fresh out of the box in the
last couple of months that we're caring. So it is
progress that we go, yes, apologize, now let's move on.
(29:36):
And focus on the sport that is actually a little
moment of progress in the tiny way. So let's look
at the positives of it in a sense, because otherwise
you'd sort of go ha. So it's good to maybe
see a positive coming out of it. Yes, apologize, sir,
Now watch your language and teach other men. Maybe the
most surprising thing this happened on a serious XM show.
I didn't know people listened to serious exam who people who?
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That's the biggest You get scammed at the car lot too,
and you're like everybody listening to fucking like bluetooth over
their cell phone. There's no need alright. So last night
the Big Winner and the Big story with Seawan White
winning the USA is hundred all time Winter Olympic gold medal. Uh.
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The NBC commentator said White is the new gold Boy.
As his score was broadcasting, NBC was like, keep coming
with those hits, but yeah, you win. I feel probably
make that joke myself. I'm like, you know, I was
not about easily the miracles and the two most iconic
(30:41):
calls ever. But this has kind of brought attention to
the fact that NBC and other outlets have been kind
of ignoring the fact that Sean White was involved in
a sexual harassment lawsuit a couple of years back and
a old out of court last year in two thousands seventeen,
(31:03):
and some outlets are publishing some of the details of that,
and I don't know, it's pretty gross, like his relationship
with this woman who he settled out of court with
as a drummer in his band. First of all, he
has a band. Every every hallmark of a board, rich dude, right,
and the like documents detail this relationship where he kind
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of oscillates back and forth between treating her like, you know,
his little brother, and you know, it reminded me of
being I. I didn't have brothers growing up, but I
had you know, cousins, and I'd go to like basketball
camp and room with older kids and they would, you know,
put their button my face and fart and you know,
(31:49):
cut their balls and put their hands in my face
and you're like, yo, smell that bro uh and that
and it was fun. I love to know, but that's uh,
that's the sort of ship that like young adolescent men
due to each other, and that's what he like does
to her. And a lot of these uh scenes from
their relationship, sending her gross porn and like making her
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look at gross stuff, which is you know, really unprofessional.
And the point is, though, is asking someone to stop.
I think that's what it is. Because I work in comedy.
I'm a stand up comedian. I mostly work with men.
It's a male dominated industry. And you work out your line.
It's the point, isn't The point is often about not
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listening to stop. And that's with with everything, you know,
because it's so hard when you're working out do you
want to kiss someone? Are you having a good time?
You're like yeah. Then if someone goes stop, yeah, then
you go, okay, I'm hearing stop with anything with them.
For example, if I kept on joking with you Miles
about going on a date as a twelve year old,
and eventually'd be like, you know what, Ashlyn, stop, I'd
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be like, oh, okay, I've taken the joke too far
and we're having a good time. I've reached the limit.
Yeah exactly. Or you might keep laughing and we might
actually have a good time with it and reach a
funnier joke. And that's how sometimes you find great fun
or great jokes are great laughter or whatever it is. Um.
And the point of everything is when at what point
someone said stop and you just refused to listen, because
then it turns into harassment. So, for example, I have
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loads of friends who I make lots of sexual jokes
with who have a very flirty, silly, stupid relationship with
women men, gay men, gay women, and like, it's such
a lovely way to joke. I grew up in a
family who love euphemisms. Well they don't. My mother doesn't
really know what euphemisms are. She just kind of puts
an energy into her voice, like, oh, I'll sit down
on that chair, all right, that's not a euphemism. But
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you know, to find sexual humor can be really very funny.
It's it's maybe physically if someone says stop to you
or can you leave me alone? Or also just looking
out for the cues. It's so important. The whole, the
whole point of being a professional comedian is looking for
the cues from the audience that they're on board or
you're going in the right direction. And again, if that's
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something you can learn from that. And what I would
say about this case is two things. First of all,
it was settled out of court, so if it's settled
At a certain point, you go, well, at what point
in the yes, that's part of what he's done, but
it was settled out of court and the details are
out there. If she's not coming out saying well, he's
still never learned then and it's unfortunate that he had
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to go to court for it. But also that's the
justice system, like he has been punished or whatever has
happened has happened, and that was how many years ago,
So you would hope that the whole point of jail
or or someone going to court, but an thing is
that they will learn and not do it again, especially
with something like this when it's something more serious. Of
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course you start when if if it's rape or murder,
you go. That sort of ship doesn't really wash away.
That's not something you learned from gold Samie. I won't
go when they get you know there, But you do
have to sort of in some way put a bit
of faith in the just a system that you're you
should be allowed to move on if you got drunk
driving when you were twenty one and then people are
like always doing that podcast, but he was actually done
(35:09):
for drink driving. He be like, God, that was I'm
so sorry about that, but I did do my time
or whatever it was. The other thing on the flip
side of that is it does make me realize that
there's never been a code of conduct with talent, So
with sports or acting or singing, anything that's sort of
magical to most people, where you have to have in
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any sort of magical talent, which is the same with performing,
there's never been. But to do that you also need
to be kind, turn up to work on time you
know you can. If you're a great sports person, you
can be like, well I wasn't there for training, but
I'm still going to do it, or like whether it's football,
it doesn't matter how how you behave outside of the pitch,
as long as you're a really good football player. It
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doesn't matter how you behave in your trailer, as long
as you're a magical actor, or whether you beat your
wife or whatever it is, or whether you're a sexual predator,
it doesn't matter. As long as you're really funny and
on stage, people still want to come and see your shows.
And maybe we're at the shifting point now where there's
has to start to be a code of conduct if
you're not kind to your coworkers are nice, or you
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shout at people behind stage. That doesn't make you able
to do your job. That doesn't make you the At
what point I think we allow a lot for creativity
and talent, Like maybe they needed to do that to
be able to do a job. And from now on,
maybe there's there's starting to be a code of conduct.
If you're a sportsperson, an actor, a comedian, you don't
just get to be magical. You also have to go
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to work and be kind like everyone else to do
as well in the normal office. And I mean, this
is behavior that we saw from Peyton Manning in the
locker room, sort of this uh like shitty behavior where
he's it's just clear that he never advanced beyond being
a twelve year old boy. And but then Sean wants
to be nipped in the butt a lot of airs
as well, you know. But so he combined that with
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groping her and trying to kiss her at a party
well drunk. And there's also this quote from uh they
quote a text conversation that they had that was basically
their last text conversation, and the way he treats her
as like weird and kind of psychologically fucked up where
he's like, you know, she's the drummer in their band,
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and he's like, I want your hair to be cut
short but with your bangs long by tomorrow. And she's like,
I really would rather not. Can we talk about this
and he's like, no, that's my final decision. That's what
I want your hair to look like. And she's like,
i'd rather not, and he's like, is that your final decision?
So that's what you're telling me. You're telling me you're
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not gonna do it, and then like he fired her
from the band, which I don't know. It's just like
it's not criminal behavior, but it uh, it's bullying. Yeah,
it's true what you're saying. Actually, it's sort of like
we have a culture here of when you're the talent,
you're deified. And it's like, well, that's that they're gonna
do what they do, like, yeah, they're gonna do drugs
in the studio, they're gonna break rules and we can't
(38:01):
say anything because they're the talent. And I think, yeah,
it's also reckoning in general for people to sort of
reevaluate like yeah, you may be white and you may
be in a band, but this is an employee at
the same time, exactly. And that's where this isn't your
garage band you started with your mates like when you
were twelve years old in dating all the time. Uh
you know that where you you have this band are
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already and it's it's there's a it's a different relationship
than one of someone who holds your sort of financial
well being. Look how wonderful Bill Cosby is, but I
know he like really likes having young girls backstage. Look
how wonderful Louis c k is, But you know what,
he's a bit creepy, but god, he brings the punters in.
There are people just as good who you can foster
and go, but they're also kind. So let's drop the
people who aren't kind. And I know that might seem
(38:43):
a bit airy fairy, but just in terms of a
code of conduct, if someone can still do the job
as well and start to bring in as much money,
the employers have to enforce it. The fans and people
who pay the wages because we go and we watch
these people. We give over our money to Netflix or whatever,
and we we add ratings to whatever show we like.
(39:04):
We have to be careful with where we put our
cash because that's where our power is. So if a
company is bad, give your money to another company, because
that is how they hear. That is how companies enforced
code of ethics. For example, people boycotting Mirror Max films
for example. That makes people take women seriously. It's not
really feeling sorry for women. It's that you go, oh,
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there's a financial risk to this, that our movies will
people will stop watching our movies and everything like that.
It isn't really out of a true it's not purely
altruistic for the cause. And that's not the worst thing
in the world because it means we as consumers have
a power with who we decide we want to buy
our sports drinks from. If someone's attached to a subway sandwich,
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so to speak, not that physically attached to it, but
the brand of subway sandwiches, don't buy them if you
don't like that athlete or whether it like. You can
use your money in quite a positive way if you
if you feel a little at lost. I mean, I've
always felt like the way brand is beyond reproach and
all of their spokespeople are you know, perfect. It was
already odd example, because I I've never eaten the subways
(40:08):
on which but it just do you know what I
was thinking as well? The sports person. I was thinking
of Happy Gilmore when you like, yeah, exactly, that's the
only sports person in America. Yeah, I mean I think
we're seeing this specifically. You're mentioning Weinstein. I mean with
the Weinstein company. The district attorney in New York ignored
(40:29):
the ship out of all this evidence or circumstantial evidence
for many years, and journalists have actually, it doesn't, it
doesn't work their favor. It doesn't. It will cost them
more to ignore and not exactly, so now they're bringing
a case against the Weinstein company for enabling it. No
one will, for example, recycle if it doesn't make more
(40:51):
financial sense to recycle, for example, if recycling is cheaper
than the normal trash collection. So in the UK or
in Ireland, for example, you have to pay more money
to recycle general household waste to put those trash guns
out than you do for your recycling bins. So it
pays and you're like, no, we should really just do
it because we should, And you're like no, people are
(41:12):
incentivized financially generally, and so we as a consumers have
to show companies in our own little, tiny ways, and
it's all through micro changes that we make that it
pays to be ethically good in business. So whether that's
with the movies you watch, where when a lot of
companies are now giving say fifty cent off if you
bring your own cup in to use your coffee, and
then more people go to those coffee shops. Like that's
(41:34):
how you show companies that the policies of being good
or being ethical do pay off. You know, it will
be tough because some of these companies are just so
large that yeah, but we people are people are so large.
We like people move like bees. Look at the me
too campaign. It started off as one little hashtag on
Twitter and then it brought in people not just from
(41:54):
the entertainment industry. And I'm not being naive to say
everything's fixed for everything's good or you know, it's only
been a couple of months, but look at the move
meant that has created from just a little hashtag on Twitter.
People are very effective at change where bees and we
moved together as a group. And you know, something that
happens hits like this is called the daily zeitgeist. That
the zeitgeist can hit across the world very quickly, you know,
(42:14):
like the Dorito's campaign. Women go I'm not going to
put up with that, thank you very much. That was
just so quick because people move in community, so we
can do it by just little changes. All right, we're
gonna take a quick break and we'll be right back.
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And we're back and miles. There's a story about the
mobile phone numbers market in Iraq. Yes, this so The
Washington posted a story about how basically sim cards with
really memorable phone numbers, like ones that have repeated digits
and things like that are highly sought after. So people
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in Iraq. So I called it you rock Iraq. I
call it Iraq over. Well, I'm ignorant. So the deal
is there. Since two thousand seven, this market sort of
emerged because after all the sanctions that Iraq was hit
with during the reign of Saddam Hussein, it kept a
lot of consumer goods and consumer electronics out of the country.
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So in two thousand seven, as the country started opening up,
mobile phones became like the hottest item, and your phone
number was like a real sign of prestige. So people
like have someone it's like seven seven seven seven seven
seven seven, that's like a that's like a number. And
so there are businesses where brokers will have they have
some cards already, like they'll put it add out, like
(43:39):
they'll put their menu basically have numbers they have you
can buy and they can range from you know, ten
dollars to upwards of must be like one three four x,
And so they talked about how they're In the article,
there's one guy who is considering getting a new phone
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number as he thought it was affecting his ability to
attract a mate. One of the brokers traded him a
sixty dollar Lexus for a SIM card with a certain
number on it. Um it's it's really interesting read. But
by the end of it, like one of the main
stories is there's this TV producer in the country who
wants this one number because it has like the most
consecutive zeros at the end of it. And so he
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goes to the broker and says, I want this number.
The broker finds the owner of that number, and so
the TV executive is willing to pay one twenty thousand
dollars for this SIM card for this phone number, and
so the broker finds the guy. The guy is a
police officer, just a regular like local, like works at
the municipality. He comes up and says, you know, this
guy is willing to pay you a D twenty k
(44:40):
straight up for the SIM card right now. What's good?
And he says absolutely not. Way too low, way too low.
And he's like, and it just shows you some of
these things to even life changing amount of Money's like, no,
I'm not coming up off this phone number. Like with
the red cups in America? Is it a cultural thing
that no one has business cards or you can't print
(45:01):
business cards? So memory remembering numbers is like a really
important thing. It's really because you know, back in the
double phones, like you don't need to memorize people's numbers,
Like I have no idea what anybody except my own
and my wife's phone number is because I've never had
to memorize numbers since i was like ten years old.
I still know my first one, six nine. Wow, that's
(45:24):
pretty good. Actually, I still remember mine from when I
was a kid. But I know Chris Flixs number, I
know Ian McMahon's number number, Christian Goose's number, I know
Jessica Monday's number, everybody's number, from up until about two
thousand two, and then nothing, it was gone. I was
listening to this wonderful book. I was listening to a
(45:48):
book what how can that be possible? Audiobooks folks reading
joined the revelation reading my ears and um, it's Malcolm
Gladwell's book The Outliers, And so a lot of it
is about, you know, why certain people do well and
we all, especially in America, that one of the big
things that you guys have here is like I came
here with nothing. My family came here with nothing. I
had nothing, zero, nothing, nothing, and I'm still managed to succeed. Actually,
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no one comes here with nothing, even even if it's
just the idea that you came from a family that
would be courageous enough to brave the seas to land here,
that's still coming with an energy of entrepreneurial hip or
whatever it is. But one of the things he was
saying is that, you know, there's that whole thing about
Asian people being very good at maths, but in our ears,
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the amount of numbers we can retain at any one
time when we look at something, it's sort of four
to five numbers. But a lot of it is to
do with syllables, so one, two, three, four, five takes
a lot longer to say in English than it does
in say, for example, Chinese, and so you can actually
fit maybe but you can maybe fit two more numbers
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in there to memorize because there's just quick Even in Japanese,
you can and break it down. I'm half Japanese, so
you can say, for each which is one, you could
say e, and like you can remember a number, like
if it's like one, five, three, you could say uh.
And you can basically use the first syllable or derivations
of that, so sound could be sa, and you can
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kind of create words out of it. So there's a
way to sort of memorize more numbers quickly. So again
what you're bringing to the table is it's just easier
to memorize more numbers. So from a very young age,
you're taking in numbers more quickly, which is just sort
of like really fascinating to me that we can do that,
because with now we don't have to memorize any numbers
at all, because like you're saying, with telephone numbers, we don't.
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But I just love that idea that, like so many
things and can come into play with memory. But in
numerology is big in in in China as well in Iraq.
I don't think numerology is a big thing. I wonder
why for them, it's purely just because that was the
first way I since mobile phones were a really big
sort of life item, that the next way to differentiate
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yourself was with the number itself, and if that was stylized,
then that added a little I have to say, when
I got my American number here and I went to
a T and T, I went in and she's like,
now we have um um numbers available from my Beverly Hills.
And I just liked the idea that when I arrived
my mother from my American number, it would come up
as from Beverly Hill. So I kind of and it
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was just a total status thing. Is a four to
four number, yes see, and seeing local l a peopill
be like you're new, you got that expansion area, you
have that legacy. Um. Yeah. But it's it's just interesting
because mobile phones are like the first technology that enters
like these countries like Africa for instance, has had this
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really advanced like mobile phone payment system called m PASA,
which is just like M for mobile and pasa Swahili
for money. Uh. Since two thousand seven, America is just
getting venmo. They've been ven owing each other like on
mobile phones and like that's been their primary form of
payments since two thousand seven. This MPASA thing is like
spread to other countries and they're like way ahead of
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the rest of the world because mobile phones were like
the first technology to come in and they came in
before credit cards even so that's like they had this
really advanced mobile phone payment system. And it's just interesting
like Iraq having like these numbers be really important. It's
just like hitting them at a certain time when for
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whatever reason, like that's what. Well, yeah, the article they
say the topling of Hussein also shattered the type political
and business class that it surrounded him, creating opportunities for
savvy entrepreneurs and ambitious would be powerbrokers. So to project
status and sophistication, they needed the right tools, and impressive
phone number became indispensable. It's so funny though, because I
don't I understand a phone being is not a symbol
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or a car when you can show it outwardly. It's
just again numerology. I don't think it's important in Iraq.
And I don't understand how you show your number is
really you never say your number loud anymore unless you're
saying put this into your phone, and then you never
say it again. But I think that's the thing is like,
so even when you dictated, someone goes, oh, ship you,
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my number is zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero. Yeah,
you will make a good husband. Uh. And then just
real quick before we go, we wanted to talk about
so yesterday, I guess Christen Gillibrand announced that she would
not be taking any pack money corporate PA but corporate
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pac money, right, And then hours later Corey Booker was like, yeah, yeah,
me too. And it's and apparently Elizabeth Warren and Bernie
Sanders they've all been doing they've all been doing it.
So it's it's very clear, like we now know who's
going to run for president. Why I'm ignoring too this
to right, could you explain is a bit more so
like you know the corporate packs that there are ways
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for corporations to to put large sums of money into
these groups and funnel them into campaigns versus like individual donors.
The Senate they don't rely as much on corporate packs
as much as House candidates do. But essentially it's a
way for them to say, I'm not going to accept
a T and T S money or I'm not going
to I'll accept the head of a T and T
(51:24):
S money, but I will not be getting specifically trade
from the company I will be taking. Put them together.
So like if it's the American Medical Association, they have
a pack that they give money to and things like that.
So by them doing that, it's a way for them
to distance themselves by saying, like, financial laws here are
completely fucked and they've completely destroyed our political system. So
this is their way of saying, I'm above the fray.
I'm not going to do that, and look at me,
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I'm woke. So it's it was interesting because yeah, literally
hours after Cristy Jillibrand said she's not doing Cory Bookers
like me too, me too, I'm not gonna take it either.
So you're we're starting to see that where were they
not going to take money from from corporate packs from
corporate Yes, so to say that I'm not I'm not
sullied by corporations. I'm a pure politician interests exactly Bernie
has been doing that for a while. Elizabeth Warren has
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been doing that for a while, Martha Campbell has been
doing that for a while. But it's starting to see
like because Jilli, Brandon, Booker, and Warren, they're all looking
like sort of potential candidates for twenty So it's it's
interesting to see people sort of like fall in line out.
But then again, like if do do we mind? If
it looks like it pays to be good, it'll be.
I think that's no problem. I think it's great. It's
(52:29):
just funny that, like within hours, it just sort of
shows we're starting to motivations. You want to make sure
you're on board, getting a little presidential and getting in
the racing stance. Yeah, I'm not sullied, although you know
over the years he's taking plenty of money, but I
have to in this game. Look, there's no way to
win without sucking taking this money. Whoever, whoever it ends
up being, I hope they go back to taking corporate
(52:52):
money once they're in the general election. They can when
they're going against each other. But it's just weird. Please
please don't get blown out in an ad spend war
with the Trump campaign exactly as it has been a
blast having you. I have enjoyed my data profusely and
I don't know which of one of you I'm going
to pick. Well, you're paying either way for both of us.
(53:13):
Thank you. Yes, I understand that everyone. Where can people
find you and follow you? Where can people find me
and follow me? That's a really Again four months ago
that would have been fined, so creepy. Um, please don't
will follow? Please don't. I've given you a lot of
my numbers, my old Irish house phone number and the
(53:35):
start of my US l So I feel like you've
got a lot to go on there, guys to start
sniffing around. And what am I doing? Oh? A drama
I'm in in the UK called hard Son, which is
by the guy Neil Cross who created Luther, and that
will be out on Hulu over here on March the seventh,
and the whole series drops, do we say drop? It
(53:57):
drops on March the seventh on Hulu, So that would
be the next thing maybe that I what about the
social media? Oh, social media's are big now? Um? My
Instagram on Twitter? Is we miss b? That's w E
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(54:18):
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(54:40):
our port the sources that we used for the articles
and stuff that you talked about today. Uh, that is
going to do it for today. Miles. Is there the
thing that you would like us right out feeling real?
You know, it's it's a romantic day, romantic night us.
So play this this boy? Yeah, you know, we just
(55:02):
want to sound of Miles great. Uh. And we got
a remix of a Surge of the Gangs board track
the Vali, which is a remix by how We Beat
and you know it's just got that little vibe. It's
a remix though it's not the original mob. But just
relax and uh, but they put the candles on for
(55:22):
yourself some bubbly. I just enjoy this Valentine's Day, which
your significant other or others. I hate this character by
the way it's not a character. Yeah, you know, that's
why I hate it. It shows this is me off
Mike all the time. But y'all don't really know. But anyway,
thank you so much. That's how wild talks around. Uh.
Rate and review of the show also, uh that that
(55:43):
would be great. Well, well you're listening while you're Miles
and the Smooth Jim unless you want to review it
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And that's gonna do it for today. We will be
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you then by m hm in a fit mood. I
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don't know that it's Ashru exacting those that don because
it empty because I don't ye see you see then
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Hello the Internet, and welcome to season eighteen, episode three
of DARE Daily Sights Geist for February four, Team Fountain's
Day two thousand eight. Team. My name is Jack O'Brien,
a K Gillac panther courtesy of cub one Fan three.
Uh pick a number cub one Fan three, and I'm
joined as always by my co host, Mr Miles Gray.
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You know what, I'm gonna do you one better and
I'm gonna raise the stakes here because Cuble one Fan
three also give you with the a K, and I'm
going with the Gray panther because I'm Miles Gray. Low
hanging fruit, but an appropriate a K nonetheless, So thank
you just did the double. Cub one Fan three, Uh,
get another idea Cup one Fan three. Sorry, I'm being
so mean. Uh. And we are thrilled to be joined
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in our third seat by the very funny comedian ashling d.
I'm great. It's Valentine's Day. I'm only be described as
a date. My describe as a podcast, but I'm taking
what i can get. To be honest, boys, Jackie, people
mentioning your child, which I think is odd for a date.
(01:09):
I'm coming a great day, that's right, we're recording this
extra early so I can get to my son's Valentine's
Day party. Said, I appreciate you all being here, and
you really have it's hard to get on that guest list. Yes,
that was very tough one. I thought a child marriage
was outlawded in America. But it's nice to say it's
still going strong, still having their meat and great, still
(01:32):
put it out there. Actually, what is something from your
search history that is revealing about who you are as
a human? Well, what is interesting is that I delete
all my search history on the weekly. Yeah, I have
this feeling I'm just very clumsy, and I know I'm
like always a day or away or two before someone
finds my stuff. So I just tend to, rather than
(01:55):
be more responsible, just to let my search history in
case someone finds it. But my last one from yesterday
was Unauthorized Rock Musical of Jurassic Park. And that is
an authorized musical that my friend is in and I
was looking for tickets last night to get them, and
so he's in in l a Jurassic Park musical. Well,
(02:18):
I'm just interested to know what the authorized Jurassic Park
musical is. If this is the unauthorized one. They have
to legally say that. So I'll be interested to see
what it's like going next Saturday. A very important film
for me and especially lends itself towards singing and dancing absolutely,
so I'm interested to see how that will be and
(02:39):
the twenty five years I think right ninety three is
when it came out. I just have to see this now. Yeah,
this sounds amazing, like because I'm picturing that there are
actors portraying the dinosaurs. What do you think that that
will be happening or yeah, I hope so I hope
the raptoring around on the stage. Yeah, the raptors will wrap.
I hope they haven't like found some amber and put
(02:59):
an entrough the amber into a mosquito and to recreate that,
because we also what happened last time when someone did
that for entertainment. So yeah, Muldoon with the Hunter guy
will do a number called Clever Girl. Yeah, I mean
maybe we're writing it right now, but just to know
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for your friend, if he doesn't do that, that's very
low hanging fruit. What is something you think is underrated? Underrated?
Sandra Block? Yeah, yeah, I have long thought this. I
think she does not get what she deserves, and if
she's listening to the podcast, which I can only seem
she can because she also lives in America. I think
that you are an underrated actress and are wonderful and
(03:42):
can turn your hand to comedy and drama, Sandra, and
let no one tell you any different. And you're kind,
and you've aged beautifully without looking like you've got under
the knife, and you seem to be lovely off camera
as well, not that I've ever met you, but in
sort of backstage hangs, Miss congeniality still on my face,
evorite films. She was being an empowered, funny woman who
(04:04):
didn't have to be a mess. Was funny on her
own terms, even back then, and she had to act
just floating around with George Clooney for ages on her
own in a silly space suit which like it's harder
than you think, um in gravity or lack of gravity
as I called it. I've never heard of her. I'm
(04:25):
going to play along with your she's an actress, but
I will check her out. Yeah, she's a really new
kid on the block. I'm not surprised you haven't heard
of She was in that documentary you love Jack called speed. Yes,
yes about that terrible bus accident. That's why I moved
to l A because of that documentary. L Look what
(04:49):
does something? He takes the train overrated? I feel like,
again this might be controversial because I feel like tomorrow
will bump into him now or something. Tom Hiddleston that
is yeah, and I just don't get the like for me.
He A. Of course he's a handsome man, but handsome
in the same way all men from the town are,
(05:10):
you know, like, yeah, you've got tet Biologically it seems sound,
but like not like oh mad days, I'd be late
for that, like and then I'd be late for that.
And then when he does anytime he goes in a
chat show, he does his impressions, or anytime he does
an interview he does it like seven impressions where it's
(05:31):
like I'm showing who are you doing and all this
sort of stuff, and you're like, that's that's that's exactly
what boring people do on dates, you know, when someone
goes you know, I can do impressions and you're like,
O can you're really can you do play? Yeah, that's true,
that's problem. But also everyone does like if you if
(05:52):
you can do andy do frain impression. I don't care
because everyone can do that. That's like being able to
kind of remark drink water. Yeah, ain't in differing. I'm like, yeah,
everyone do that. Yeah, it's really good, brilliant. Or Christopher Walking, like,
I mean that's not yeah, that's not You're not clever.
(06:15):
So that is my And did you see him sing
Man in the Mirror and somewhere in Asia Christopher Walk? No,
not Christopher Walking, Tom Huddleston, Oh no, oh my god,
do yourselves a favor or actually maybe ruin your day
by watching He's like, yeah, okay, I suppose I suppose
I could sing you a song? Yeah, And then they
started really and then he goes, I'm going to make
(06:37):
a change, you know, really off like that sort of
I'm looking at the man in the mirror, you know,
really just slightly off, which is worse than completely all
oh is it was real dodgy territory, icy stuff. So
that's my terrible. But everyone was like, just could couldn't
(07:00):
And maybe that Taylor Swift co sign did it all.
Yeah I understand that, do you know what? He doesn't
come across as a bad man, it's not about his soul,
which I believe is good. It's just the overrated right.
If him and Sandra could combine their power and just
do their job, I feel like they both get what
they deserve. And it made him seem suspicious to me
(07:22):
that he diated Taylor Swift because I think she's like
an alien cyborg type thing, right, I don't. I think,
as she says, she gets all this old Taylor Swift
and Rex's but Ed Sheeran just talk us through his
day every single song, and everyone's like, oh, he's just
got so much rain song walk down the Road. Then
I met a girl, Yes, another girl and it's a
(07:43):
different song, but it's the same girl from the other song.
And then we had a peck are eyes and you're like,
oh God, but he doesn't get any bad flak. Al Right, Well,
I now dislike Tom Hilson a little bit more and
have a greater appreciation for this. And you call Sandral
have to check out, all right. We're trying to take
(08:05):
a sample of what people are thinking. You're talking about
today on Valentine's Day two, And the way we like
to open things up is by asking our guest, what
is a myth. What is something that you know that
people think is true that you know to be false. Well,
this is actually something that is straight off the press,
is hot off the pan. Just this morning when I
(08:27):
came in and I was talking to Miles about America.
And because it's you have an interesting accent. You're not
from California. Oh, I think, I am, okay, it's hard
for me. You are miles from the truth right now
here we go, my young man, Um, I am actually Irish. Yes,
And so when one comes to another country, when spots
(08:50):
the little intricacies of a place. And we were talking
about red cups at parties, and I always thought everyone
in America drank from red cups at parties, and it's
very exciting for foreign people to come here because we
see in the movies red cups of parties, and that's
how you know you're having a hashtag good time when
you have red cups. And you think that actually people
(09:12):
don't really drink red cups that much at parties, that
it's probably something movie people like producers are like, guys,
we need everyone to for continuity reasons, right, Yeah, solo cups, Yeah,
it's or they called solo cups Bland is called solo
but it's an odd name because what cups are like
conjoined cups? Like what you're like, Oh, can I have
(09:33):
a cup put on its own? Could you not give
me two cups? Yeah? Like, where does the idea of
solo cup? It's just I wish you could get to
the bottom of it. I don't know. It could have
been a very lonely man. That's like saying, solo hats?
Can I just have the one hat for my head? Yeah?
I was only going to give you one hat for
your head in the first place. Like, I'm not one
(09:53):
of those fancy cities all three hats. Johnny, I love
that guy, three man. He's from New York City, can
you um? I? I So apparently the rumor overseas is
that you go to any party in America and everybody's
gonna be holding solo cups. And the truth I'd say
(10:15):
in my experience is that it's more high school and
college parties usually sometimes and that's it. Yeah, I mean
I grew up. Every high school party I want to
it was probably solo cups or any party that has
like a keg usually you have, but there's a keg
of beer then you have the red solo cups or
you just have them because you go to Costco or wherever,
and they're typically like the most robust sort of heavy
(10:35):
duty cup you can use and pour a large quantity
of alcohol in without going like, but they're all redd.
Is a thing like blue cups. There are blue ones.
But for whatever reason I think you have films have
over many films have just created this shorthand. It's like,
you know, they just have to spend less time thinking
about it. It's just like everybody's funny that it becomes
(10:57):
such a myth that if you see like a party
in an other film from another country, they're probably just
drinking out of glasses, right because they're civilized. Yeah, and
we're wasteful consumers who are going to destroy the earth.
But I welcome to America. Also, as you were pointing out, Miles,
red cups means you can just have nothing in the cup.
If you're shooting a movie, you don't have to be like, hey,
(11:17):
does there have a liquid in their cup? Don't drink
it on this take like that. But that's what's interesting,
the myth of it that it's probably more to do
with um with with with art department, and so many
parties are in American movies, like so many teen movies,
and like frat that's sort of like we don't really have.
(11:38):
Of course, we have the college culture of going to parties,
but that sort of frat house fraternities doesn't exist in
outside of America. What was your experience, Like, what kind
of cups did you drink out of that party? Oh? Well,
I've actually trunk out of a numerous different types of
tips over the years. Guys. Actual, I'm gonna be like
Bubba Gump and Bubba and Forest Gump. Now, whereas like
(11:59):
a drawing got a big cups, small cups, plastic cups, glasses.
There is like kind of white plastic cups maybe, and
they'd be a lot smaller that sort of big beer cup.
We wouldn't actually have. But I just really like the
idea that it's not even just they seldom cheap and
(12:20):
everyone has the parties. That it's I really like your
idea Miles that like producers. First of all, it means
that everyone can drink, but you never have any drink
in it. You wouldn't see for continuity at going up
or down. I used to think it was red cups.
So then if the police came into the fat party,
we're like, you're all under twenty one, which is strange
for an age to start drinking at but stop drinking
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and be like, no, my red cups right, well, you
do that just if you're drinking places you're not supposed to,
like the beach or whatever, then you have those so
they can't immediately say you're drinking and when they pull
up just slam that shs. In Ireland, cans as of
thing like having a can. Yeah, you wouldn't really get
a keg, you get a load of cans. So the
(13:05):
keg idea is quite kind of not again, we're excessive
and it's like, well we could drink seventy cans of beer,
which one is more wasteful, one big keg and plastic cups.
That is probably waste because the plastic or a load
of recycled the cans. Although I noticed in Ireland when
I was there that they pay a lot of attention
to the percentage of alcohol in the beer. Yes, they
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so like that's the thing in America is just incidental,
but more water in Ireland they like basically if it
has a higher percentage of alcohol it'll cost a little
bit more because like it's more efficient at doing its job.
It's like a very it's not. No, it'll cost the
same basically like I P s will cost I mean,
(13:50):
think about malt liquor is cheaper than if you want
to I mean, which isn't. Technically you're so right though,
because we're like, oh, the value is the alcohol, right, take. Yeah,
that's what's getting that's what's doing the work. All right.
Because it's Valentine's Day, we wanted to talk real briefly
about romantic comedies, just about our love lives and just miles,
(14:15):
what's your favorite man with a lady? You know, you're
just kissing on your lady. You have a real life
girlfriend and she's like, I love best. She's like, looks
in your eyes and it's like I am your girlfriends. Yeah,
you know, all very believable stuff. So, you know, doing that,
we wanted to talk about romantic comedies. We wanted to
(14:38):
name some of our favorites or our favorite and maybe
least favorite romcom tropes. Uh so favorite romcom go Jack,
probably notting Hill or something about Mary if you let me,
if you allow it, it's not really and it's a
full blown comedy. Yeah, yeah, totally is about a guy
getting a girl. Yeah. And it's there's something about Mary. Yeah.
(15:02):
Absolutely a romantic comedy, isn't it. It doesn't mean there's
yeah see, And I've been saying that the whole time.
So that's my favorite least favorite love actually, even though
it's by the same guy, did notting Hill not a
big fan of love. Actually, what's your pick? What is
my pick? What is my pick? Oh? I love? I'm
(15:25):
not sure if you guys ever got it? Here? There's
an old Pride and Prejudice, not the Cure, A nightly one.
There's another one. It was the original one Colin Firth
became famous for. In it, there's a famous scene where
he gets out of the lake and it's like, oh,
grumpily shakes some water off of himself. And I always
like that one because afterwards you can't help but start
speaking exactly like this a Hill time. It's very hard
(15:47):
not to start speaking in English, and it's all about
manners and the sort of like looking at someone across
the crowded dance hall. But the dancing is really unenergetic
and sexy. It's just walking up, shaking your shoulders walking back,
and it's just that sort of like back in the
day dancing and it's it's all eyes and Mr Darcy,
do you think that for three pounds a year, I'm
(16:09):
going to marry someone? Like it's that's sort of yeah,
And I really like that sort of old They're doing
a lot with just their eyes and a few manners,
which I think it's very interesting and you still get
as much from it. Myles. Oh, I think one fine day?
What's one fine day again? One fine day is with
Michelle Peiffer and George Clooney where they're, you know, just
(16:30):
single parents trying to take their kids to daycare and
but they're also bouncing their their careers at the same time.
I don't know why do they do it? I think
I don't know. It could be nostalgia. Is like one
of the first dates I went on, like in sixth grade,
Like I took my sixth grade girlfriend to see and
I felt like an adult. This is one fine day
and it also made me think New York was the
(16:50):
coolest place ever. What is sixth grade? Agewise? What roughly
ar old twelve? You brought a girl to the cinema
smiles your little legendet coke and everything. Oh my god,
that's fairly advantis you know. I took an eighth grader
once when I was sixth grade to see bas Lerman's
Romeo and Juliet. Oh my god, so you know I'm
out here. Yeah, as they would say, that's too advanced.
(17:12):
That's almost child services, little suspicious of you. You know,
some say I was the original pickup artist. You know, Yeah,
who was that? Some who would say, mostly me in
a sort of drug adult like drug induced psychosis. But yes,
that is me when Harry met Sally. Can I throw
that into the mix? Yes? Yeah. Trope wise, though, it
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always starts off with some level of deception, like I'm
an undercover journalist or like I'm not a ship bag
or whatever, and then they're like, wait, I'm into deep relationship.
I guess yeah, that is true. At the beginning, you're like, no, man, well,
I'm really on top of my shift. In general, I
think the most misleading it's necessary for the purposes of
(17:58):
all romantic comedies, but the most misleading trope in romantic
comedies is that dating is like really hard and like
because dating is the easy part. If you're like in
a relationship with somebody who's like the one, whereas like,
you know, a successful relationship years down the road is difficult,
(18:20):
but like dating is, they have to like throw all
these obstacles in the way of like people who are
in love with each other, like you know, a bet
or you know one of them being an undercover journalist
who is just doing research on them, or my other
least favorite trope is, uh that rape is a funny
(18:41):
prank like in Revenge of the Nerds and Wedding Crashers
when he ties him up. Yeah, he ties them up
and like has like yeah, he's like kissing on Vince Vaughan,
like the brother, right, isn't that Though there's loads of
well this is what happens with me to campaign, you go, no,
it never happened to me. Oh no, it has eighteen times.
(19:04):
You just sort of tend to go, it's so expected
this stuff that you andre at the time, it's like, well,
isn't it funny that a dude like tied up another
dude and was sort of like the vehicle that powered that,
And you start don't know it because you're like, oh, yeah,
this is awful. But the brother is involved at first
maybe I don't know exactly how it happens. Revenge of
(19:26):
the Nerds, which is like this beloved eighties movie that
people have nostalgia for. The main character like misleads a
woman into thinking that he's her boyfriend and performs oral
sex on her. Oh my god, And that's like a guest.
And even the fact that it's called revenge of the yeah, exactly,
(19:49):
like revenge of any group of people on women is
not It is not great. When you start looking at
all these little things, you're like, no, God, we got
a lot of work to do, guys, we're still there
because we're living in revenge of the anti feminist internet user, right,
So that's what I mean. It's almost like that's gone
like that's gone darker now it's yeah, all right, well
(20:16):
what a weird All right, we'll be right back and
we're back. Uh. And So I don't know if you
guys watched the Olympics last night. I did my homework.
(20:38):
I tuned in because I wanted to see MICHAELA. Schiffrin.
She's this US athlete who you know, very young and
has like one golden slalom. What's her what's her sport? Slalom? Skiing.
She like, does you know the cutting back and forth? Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,
And she's supposedly great. Uh. The New York I did
(20:59):
a profile of her that was like pretty interesting and
like makes her seem like this like weird sports cyborg
who she likes still rooms with her mom when she's
on the road. Like she's like totally kind of socially
has has a singular focus, just like so singularly focused
that it's almost like she's not a full person. So
she's only seventeen, like dating from twelve. I think she's
(21:24):
twenty two at this point. MICHAELA. Schiffern She was I
think eighteen when she won the gold four years ago,
but I just did that math in my head. But anyways,
she people keep getting delayed because there's like such strong winds.
We talked about that before, like they're going to blow
the people off the side of the mountain, which wouldn't
be good. So, uh, that got delayed and I ended
(21:46):
up watching a lot of curling, which is a great
sport that I still don't know the rules of, but
it's a lot of fun to watch. Um. But uh
so before we get into the main event. Last night
at Shawn White winning the gold and the fallout from that.
We wanted to talk about a hot take from the
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Barstool Sports guys yesterday responding to the previous night's big event,
Chloe Kim winning gold. Uh, this guy had an interesting take, right, Miles.
So the show is called dialed In with Dallas Brandon. Uh,
so you can imagine this is a safe space. Um
(22:27):
So anyway, this is them just chatting shit about Chloe
Kim and just their thoughts on the seventeen year old snowboarder.
I'm inspired by you. Yeah, Chloe Kim famous for writing
a very different board than Kim Kardashian's, no doubt, and
in fact, just to keep it on that tip her
her eighteenth birthday is April, and the countdown is on baby,
because I got my Waterson going, that's what I like
(22:49):
about them high school girls. I'm right there with you.
If she was eighteen, you wouldn't be ashamed to see
she's a little she's a little hot piece as she is. Yeah.
And then afterwards, Brodie Stevens is like, did you just
(23:09):
think a boner pill, peacon, boner pill, pecan pecan. I'm
right there with you, dude, keep it on that tip Jesus. Yeah.
So it's a show called Toxic Masculinity. That's the real
life version. Yeah. So I guess that guy had to
kind of walk his things back. You could hear the
actual host be like, all right, that's it, and he
was sort of like, don't do this on my show. Right,
(23:30):
So that guy, uh. Dead Spin wrote an article about
that little segment, and he responded on Twitter dead Spin
still a thing, and then thirteen hours later was like,
I deeply regret my comments about Chloe Kim, Chloe, you
are an inspiration and completely walked it back. But I
went to his blog and he is just so consistent
(23:52):
in his voice that I just want to read a
small part of his blog. So he's talking about how
he lives in George Town apparently, and he grew up
close by, and his dad has just asked him, how
has the neighborhood changed, and he says I thought about it,
and I told him, yeah, she's good. The neighborhood. Yeah,
(24:13):
the neighborhood, Yeah, she good. Funny because if you read
all the fancy editorials in the New York Times and
watch cable news shows, you think Henny Penny a k
Chicken Little had taken out a thirty five year mortgage
on a sweet pad at the corner of Prospect and
thirty feet. So yeah, d j T kicks it at
six hundred Pennsylvania and he's a weird mofo. But I
(24:37):
haven't heard one citizen of the district express fear or
share apocalyptic testament. Uh yeah, I just love dj T
kicks it at sixteen hundred, and he's a weird mofo.
Yeah you mean Donald Trump is the fucking president who's
a racist, big seen. Yeah whatever, he's a weird I'm
(24:58):
not really good at calling out other men, so let's
just leave it a You know what, what's good about
these situations is that is not some weird, one awful
little piece of language. And in the current time, if
what we do is pick up on these things, don't
hang them out to dry and ruin his life. But
in those little moments, go do you know what, Yeah,
(25:18):
stop taking an opportunity to learn. Hopefully other people will learn.
And now let's move on from this one. You know
like that that's another tiny microaggression. That's just But actually
we need to quotaize these situations as they come along.
Because that's how the world is going to change, I
think is with each of those situations. But those things
(25:40):
don't make me. I almost feel tired when I hear
those things, the reason being that's all the time, every day.
So for a lot of men hearing these things, you're like, what,
how could you say that? But you're like, that's walking
down the road. So I'm really glad someone said it
out loud and has been loombastad for it, because now
then other people might go, oh, better not say that.
(26:00):
Are better try and watch my language when I'm talking
about a sports person who's a kid, like he's a
young kid in an inspiration like just it's bordering on
Pede Felix, And it's like those things are so like
we were talking earlier on about just not seeing stuff,
you just get so tight. You just literally forget all
of those things that happened during the day. But it
builds up like sort of like if you don't wash
(26:23):
your hair for a week, but it feels like every
day with like that sort of stuff happening, You're like, God,
my hair is so greasy from greasy comments which you
sort of don't notice. It's slowly getting dirty. Yeah, I
need to wash. I guess I'm not super surprised by
this comment, just because I guess, like ten years ago,
wasn't the Olsen Twins turning eighteen like Britney Spear and
(26:45):
before it wasn't like yeah, it wasn't like a big whoe. Yeah,
And that's because that's I think that's where we're at now,
is like where you know, everyone has to act as
a collective correcting mechanism, just be like no, no, no,
but all times about culture makes things sexy or not
sex So you see that happening with when it used
to be voluptuous figures and during the nineties the sexy
(27:05):
gamein look was of figures because that was what we
put out on magazines and that's what every like, you
become sexualized by what you see. So my friend, actually
Sarah Pascoe, has a bit of stand up about how
you can make you can make people sexually attracted to
a boot if you constantly show pictures of boots between porn.
I never time you see a boot, it's like, oh, yeah,
(27:26):
that's that's all. Yeah, yeah, exactly. We're more Pavlovian than
we think. And so if we constantly sexualized children and
high schooled kids, and that sort of idea rather than
say women women, sexy women, the idea of a full bodied,
grown ass woman being sexual, rather than kind of trying
to make everyone look young and like babies, Like even
(27:47):
a lot of the models we see on TV and
in magazines they look like babies, and then eventually you
think babies are sexy. Like that's kind of what we're doing.
And so what we have to also do is take
responsibility for our advertising, what we buy, what we sell,
who we put on, even shows like Riverdale that are
sort of like glorifying relationships with students, like when do
(28:08):
we start? Actually also the casting of people like say
um Kate what's her name, Tom Cruise of the Alien
Scientology movement, and Katie Holmes. She was one of the
youngest cast members of Dawson's Creek and everyone else was
fifty two. But it was actually really important to have
fifty two year old experienced actors being teenagers because we
just need to see the story. We don't actually need
(28:29):
people to be eleven the show. And now you see
actors getting younger and younger in a lot of those
teen dramas, and they're being cast at fourteen and you're like, yeah,
so you're putting teenagers with sexual stories. We're also using
actors who sort of don't know their own sexuality yet
in these shows, and it's constantly sexualizing children. When you're like,
we just need to know the story. It can be
played by twenty two year old you know. So I
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guess we could view this progress that Yeah, well, I
think I think you have to. I think you have
to see all of these moments. Is because it's not
moving backwards, because that would be absolutely naive because that's
exactly like, no, no, no no, no. What I mean is
that would be saying this is already there. This is
not something coming out. This is probably being said four
months ago on radio and people would have laughed years ago.
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No, no no, no, but four months ago but before the
me to campaign, are probably only being woked away and going, oh,
we should actually say something now where this person can
lose their job for their words. Yeah. So this is
very it's new that we are caring so much. It's
brand new, it's fresh out of the box in the
last couple of months that we're caring. So it is
progress that we go, yes, apologize, now let's move on.
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And focus on the sport that is actually a little
moment of progress in the tiny way. So let's look
at the positives of it in a sense, because otherwise
you'd sort of go ha. So it's good to maybe
see a positive coming out of it. Yes, apologize, sir,
Now watch your language and teach other men. Maybe the
most surprising thing this happened on a serious XM show.
I didn't know people listened to serious exam who people who?
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That's the biggest You get scammed at the car lot too,
and you're like everybody listening to fucking like bluetooth over
their cell phone. There's no need alright. So last night
the Big Winner and the Big story with Seawan White
winning the USA is hundred all time Winter Olympic gold medal. Uh.
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The NBC commentator said White is the new gold Boy.
As his score was broadcasting, NBC was like, keep coming
with those hits, but yeah, you win. I feel probably
make that joke myself. I'm like, you know, I was
not about easily the miracles and the two most iconic
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calls ever. But this has kind of brought attention to
the fact that NBC and other outlets have been kind
of ignoring the fact that Sean White was involved in
a sexual harassment lawsuit a couple of years back and
a old out of court last year in two thousands seventeen,
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and some outlets are publishing some of the details of that,
and I don't know, it's pretty gross, like his relationship
with this woman who he settled out of court with
as a drummer in his band. First of all, he
has a band. Every every hallmark of a board, rich dude, right,
and the like documents detail this relationship where he kind
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of oscillates back and forth between treating her like, you know,
his little brother, and you know, it reminded me of
being I. I didn't have brothers growing up, but I
had you know, cousins, and I'd go to like basketball
camp and room with older kids and they would, you know,
put their button my face and fart and you know,
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cut their balls and put their hands in my face
and you're like, yo, smell that bro uh and that
and it was fun. I love to know, but that's uh,
that's the sort of ship that like young adolescent men
due to each other, and that's what he like does
to her. And a lot of these uh scenes from
their relationship, sending her gross porn and like making her
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look at gross stuff, which is you know, really unprofessional.
And the point is, though, is asking someone to stop.
I think that's what it is. Because I work in comedy.
I'm a stand up comedian. I mostly work with men.
It's a male dominated industry. And you work out your line.
It's the point, isn't The point is often about not
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listening to stop. And that's with with everything, you know,
because it's so hard when you're working out do you
want to kiss someone? Are you having a good time?
You're like yeah. Then if someone goes stop, yeah, then
you go, okay, I'm hearing stop with anything with them.
For example, if I kept on joking with you Miles
about going on a date as a twelve year old,
and eventually'd be like, you know what, Ashlyn, stop, I'd
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be like, oh, okay, I've taken the joke too far
and we're having a good time. I've reached the limit.
Yeah exactly. Or you might keep laughing and we might
actually have a good time with it and reach a
funnier joke. And that's how sometimes you find great fun
or great jokes are great laughter or whatever it is. Um.
And the point of everything is when at what point
someone said stop and you just refused to listen, because
then it turns into harassment. So, for example, I have
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loads of friends who I make lots of sexual jokes
with who have a very flirty, silly, stupid relationship with
women men, gay men, gay women, and like, it's such
a lovely way to joke. I grew up in a
family who love euphemisms. Well they don't. My mother doesn't
really know what euphemisms are. She just kind of puts
an energy into her voice, like, oh, I'll sit down
on that chair, all right, that's not a euphemism. But
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you know, to find sexual humor can be really very funny.
It's it's maybe physically if someone says stop to you
or can you leave me alone? Or also just looking
out for the cues. It's so important. The whole, the
whole point of being a professional comedian is looking for
the cues from the audience that they're on board or
you're going in the right direction. And again, if that's
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something you can learn from that. And what I would
say about this case is two things. First of all,
it was settled out of court, so if it's settled
At a certain point, you go, well, at what point
in the yes, that's part of what he's done, but
it was settled out of court and the details are
out there. If she's not coming out saying well, he's
still never learned then and it's unfortunate that he had
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to go to court for it. But also that's the
justice system, like he has been punished or whatever has
happened has happened, and that was how many years ago,
So you would hope that the whole point of jail
or or someone going to court, but an thing is
that they will learn and not do it again, especially
with something like this when it's something more serious. Of
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course you start when if if it's rape or murder,
you go. That sort of ship doesn't really wash away.
That's not something you learned from gold Samie. I won't
go when they get you know there, But you do
have to sort of in some way put a bit
of faith in the just a system that you're you
should be allowed to move on if you got drunk
driving when you were twenty one and then people are
like always doing that podcast, but he was actually done
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for drink driving. He be like, God, that was I'm
so sorry about that, but I did do my time
or whatever it was. The other thing on the flip
side of that is it does make me realize that
there's never been a code of conduct with talent, So
with sports or acting or singing, anything that's sort of
magical to most people, where you have to have in
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any sort of magical talent, which is the same with performing,
there's never been. But to do that you also need
to be kind, turn up to work on time you
know you can. If you're a great sports person, you
can be like, well I wasn't there for training, but
I'm still going to do it, or like whether it's football,
it doesn't matter how how you behave outside of the pitch,
as long as you're a really good football player. It
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doesn't matter how you behave in your trailer, as long
as you're a magical actor, or whether you beat your
wife or whatever it is, or whether you're a sexual predator,
it doesn't matter. As long as you're really funny and
on stage, people still want to come and see your shows.
And maybe we're at the shifting point now where there's
has to start to be a code of conduct if
you're not kind to your coworkers are nice, or you
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shout at people behind stage. That doesn't make you able
to do your job. That doesn't make you the At
what point I think we allow a lot for creativity
and talent, Like maybe they needed to do that to
be able to do a job. And from now on,
maybe there's there's starting to be a code of conduct.
If you're a sportsperson, an actor, a comedian, you don't
just get to be magical. You also have to go
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to work and be kind like everyone else to do
as well in the normal office. And I mean, this
is behavior that we saw from Peyton Manning in the
locker room, sort of this uh like shitty behavior where
he's it's just clear that he never advanced beyond being
a twelve year old boy. And but then Sean wants
to be nipped in the butt a lot of airs
as well, you know. But so he combined that with
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groping her and trying to kiss her at a party
well drunk. And there's also this quote from uh they
quote a text conversation that they had that was basically
their last text conversation, and the way he treats her
as like weird and kind of psychologically fucked up where
he's like, you know, she's the drummer in their band,
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and he's like, I want your hair to be cut
short but with your bangs long by tomorrow. And she's like,
I really would rather not. Can we talk about this
and he's like, no, that's my final decision. That's what
I want your hair to look like. And she's like,
i'd rather not, and he's like, is that your final decision?
So that's what you're telling me. You're telling me you're
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not gonna do it, and then like he fired her
from the band, which I don't know. It's just like
it's not criminal behavior, but it uh, it's bullying. Yeah,
it's true what you're saying. Actually, it's sort of like
we have a culture here of when you're the talent,
you're deified. And it's like, well, that's that they're gonna
do what they do, like, yeah, they're gonna do drugs
in the studio, they're gonna break rules and we can't
(38:01):
say anything because they're the talent. And I think, yeah,
it's also reckoning in general for people to sort of
reevaluate like yeah, you may be white and you may
be in a band, but this is an employee at
the same time, exactly. And that's where this isn't your
garage band you started with your mates like when you
were twelve years old in dating all the time. Uh
you know that where you you have this band are
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already and it's it's there's a it's a different relationship
than one of someone who holds your sort of financial
well being. Look how wonderful Bill Cosby is, but I
know he like really likes having young girls backstage. Look
how wonderful Louis c k is, But you know what,
he's a bit creepy, but god, he brings the punters in.
There are people just as good who you can foster
and go, but they're also kind. So let's drop the
people who aren't kind. And I know that might seem
(38:43):
a bit airy fairy, but just in terms of a
code of conduct, if someone can still do the job
as well and start to bring in as much money,
the employers have to enforce it. The fans and people
who pay the wages because we go and we watch
these people. We give over our money to Netflix or whatever,
and we we add ratings to whatever show we like.
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We have to be careful with where we put our
cash because that's where our power is. So if a
company is bad, give your money to another company, because
that is how they hear. That is how companies enforced
code of ethics. For example, people boycotting Mirror Max films
for example. That makes people take women seriously. It's not
really feeling sorry for women. It's that you go, oh,
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there's a financial risk to this, that our movies will
people will stop watching our movies and everything like that.
It isn't really out of a true it's not purely
altruistic for the cause. And that's not the worst thing
in the world because it means we as consumers have
a power with who we decide we want to buy
our sports drinks from. If someone's attached to a subway sandwich,
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so to speak, not that physically attached to it, but
the brand of subway sandwiches, don't buy them if you
don't like that athlete or whether it like. You can
use your money in quite a positive way if you
if you feel a little at lost. I mean, I've
always felt like the way brand is beyond reproach and
all of their spokespeople are you know, perfect. It was
already odd example, because I I've never eaten the subways
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on which but it just do you know what I
was thinking as well? The sports person. I was thinking
of Happy Gilmore when you like, yeah, exactly, that's the
only sports person in America. Yeah, I mean I think
we're seeing this specifically. You're mentioning Weinstein. I mean with
the Weinstein company. The district attorney in New York ignored
(40:29):
the ship out of all this evidence or circumstantial evidence
for many years, and journalists have actually, it doesn't, it
doesn't work their favor. It doesn't. It will cost them
more to ignore and not exactly, so now they're bringing
a case against the Weinstein company for enabling it. No
one will, for example, recycle if it doesn't make more
(40:51):
financial sense to recycle, for example, if recycling is cheaper
than the normal trash collection. So in the UK or
in Ireland, for example, you have to pay more money
to recycle general household waste to put those trash guns
out than you do for your recycling bins. So it
pays and you're like, no, we should really just do
it because we should, And you're like no, people are
(41:12):
incentivized financially generally, and so we as a consumers have
to show companies in our own little, tiny ways, and
it's all through micro changes that we make that it
pays to be ethically good in business. So whether that's
with the movies you watch, where when a lot of
companies are now giving say fifty cent off if you
bring your own cup in to use your coffee, and
then more people go to those coffee shops. Like that's
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how you show companies that the policies of being good
or being ethical do pay off. You know, it will
be tough because some of these companies are just so
large that yeah, but we people are people are so large.
We like people move like bees. Look at the me
too campaign. It started off as one little hashtag on
Twitter and then it brought in people not just from
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the entertainment industry. And I'm not being naive to say
everything's fixed for everything's good or you know, it's only
been a couple of months, but look at the move
meant that has created from just a little hashtag on Twitter.
People are very effective at change where bees and we
moved together as a group. And you know, something that
happens hits like this is called the daily zeitgeist. That
the zeitgeist can hit across the world very quickly, you know,
(42:14):
like the Dorito's campaign. Women go I'm not going to
put up with that, thank you very much. That was
just so quick because people move in community, so we
can do it by just little changes. All right, we're
gonna take a quick break and we'll be right back.
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And we're back and miles. There's a story about the
mobile phone numbers market in Iraq. Yes, this so The
Washington posted a story about how basically sim cards with
really memorable phone numbers, like ones that have repeated digits
and things like that are highly sought after. So people
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in Iraq. So I called it you rock Iraq. I
call it Iraq over. Well, I'm ignorant. So the deal
is there. Since two thousand seven, this market sort of
emerged because after all the sanctions that Iraq was hit
with during the reign of Saddam Hussein, it kept a
lot of consumer goods and consumer electronics out of the country.
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So in two thousand seven, as the country started opening up,
mobile phones became like the hottest item, and your phone
number was like a real sign of prestige. So people
like have someone it's like seven seven seven seven seven
seven seven, that's like a that's like a number. And
so there are businesses where brokers will have they have
some cards already, like they'll put it add out, like
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they'll put their menu basically have numbers they have you
can buy and they can range from you know, ten
dollars to upwards of must be like one three four x,
And so they talked about how they're In the article,
there's one guy who is considering getting a new phone
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number as he thought it was affecting his ability to
attract a mate. One of the brokers traded him a
sixty dollar Lexus for a SIM card with a certain
number on it. Um it's it's really interesting read. But
by the end of it, like one of the main
stories is there's this TV producer in the country who
wants this one number because it has like the most
consecutive zeros at the end of it. And so he
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goes to the broker and says, I want this number.
The broker finds the owner of that number, and so
the TV executive is willing to pay one twenty thousand
dollars for this SIM card for this phone number, and
so the broker finds the guy. The guy is a
police officer, just a regular like local, like works at
the municipality. He comes up and says, you know, this
guy is willing to pay you a D twenty k
(44:40):
straight up for the SIM card right now. What's good?
And he says absolutely not. Way too low, way too low.
And he's like, and it just shows you some of
these things to even life changing amount of Money's like, no,
I'm not coming up off this phone number. Like with
the red cups in America? Is it a cultural thing
that no one has business cards or you can't print
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business cards? So memory remembering numbers is like a really
important thing. It's really because you know, back in the
double phones, like you don't need to memorize people's numbers,
Like I have no idea what anybody except my own
and my wife's phone number is because I've never had
to memorize numbers since i was like ten years old.
I still know my first one, six nine. Wow, that's
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pretty good. Actually, I still remember mine from when I
was a kid. But I know Chris Flixs number, I
know Ian McMahon's number number, Christian Goose's number, I know
Jessica Monday's number, everybody's number, from up until about two
thousand two, and then nothing, it was gone. I was
listening to this wonderful book. I was listening to a
(45:48):
book what how can that be possible? Audiobooks folks reading
joined the revelation reading my ears and um, it's Malcolm
Gladwell's book The Outliers, And so a lot of it
is about, you know, why certain people do well and
we all, especially in America, that one of the big
things that you guys have here is like I came
here with nothing. My family came here with nothing. I
had nothing, zero, nothing, nothing, and I'm still managed to succeed. Actually,
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no one comes here with nothing, even even if it's
just the idea that you came from a family that
would be courageous enough to brave the seas to land here,
that's still coming with an energy of entrepreneurial hip or
whatever it is. But one of the things he was
saying is that, you know, there's that whole thing about
Asian people being very good at maths, but in our ears,
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the amount of numbers we can retain at any one
time when we look at something, it's sort of four
to five numbers. But a lot of it is to
do with syllables, so one, two, three, four, five takes
a lot longer to say in English than it does
in say, for example, Chinese, and so you can actually
fit maybe but you can maybe fit two more numbers
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in there to memorize because there's just quick Even in Japanese,
you can and break it down. I'm half Japanese, so
you can say, for each which is one, you could
say e, and like you can remember a number, like
if it's like one, five, three, you could say uh.
And you can basically use the first syllable or derivations
of that, so sound could be sa, and you can
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kind of create words out of it. So there's a
way to sort of memorize more numbers quickly. So again
what you're bringing to the table is it's just easier
to memorize more numbers. So from a very young age,
you're taking in numbers more quickly, which is just sort
of like really fascinating to me that we can do that,
because with now we don't have to memorize any numbers
at all, because like you're saying, with telephone numbers, we don't.
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But I just love that idea that, like so many
things and can come into play with memory. But in
numerology is big in in in China as well in Iraq.
I don't think numerology is a big thing. I wonder
why for them, it's purely just because that was the
first way I since mobile phones were a really big
sort of life item, that the next way to differentiate
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yourself was with the number itself, and if that was stylized,
then that added a little I have to say, when
I got my American number here and I went to
a T and T, I went in and she's like,
now we have um um numbers available from my Beverly Hills.
And I just liked the idea that when I arrived
my mother from my American number, it would come up
as from Beverly Hill. So I kind of and it
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was just a total status thing. Is a four to
four number, yes see, and seeing local l a peopill
be like you're new, you got that expansion area, you
have that legacy. Um. Yeah. But it's it's just interesting
because mobile phones are like the first technology that enters
like these countries like Africa for instance, has had this
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really advanced like mobile phone payment system called m PASA,
which is just like M for mobile and pasa Swahili
for money. Uh. Since two thousand seven, America is just
getting venmo. They've been ven owing each other like on
mobile phones and like that's been their primary form of
payments since two thousand seven. This MPASA thing is like
spread to other countries and they're like way ahead of
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the rest of the world because mobile phones were like
the first technology to come in and they came in
before credit cards even so that's like they had this
really advanced mobile phone payment system. And it's just interesting
like Iraq having like these numbers be really important. It's
just like hitting them at a certain time when for
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whatever reason, like that's what. Well, yeah, the article they
say the topling of Hussein also shattered the type political
and business class that it surrounded him, creating opportunities for
savvy entrepreneurs and ambitious would be powerbrokers. So to project
status and sophistication, they needed the right tools, and impressive
phone number became indispensable. It's so funny though, because I
don't I understand a phone being is not a symbol
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or a car when you can show it outwardly. It's
just again numerology. I don't think it's important in Iraq.
And I don't understand how you show your number is
really you never say your number loud anymore unless you're
saying put this into your phone, and then you never
say it again. But I think that's the thing is like,
so even when you dictated, someone goes, oh, ship you,
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my number is zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero. Yeah,
you will make a good husband. Uh. And then just
real quick before we go, we wanted to talk about
so yesterday, I guess Christen Gillibrand announced that she would
not be taking any pack money corporate PA but corporate
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pac money, right, And then hours later Corey Booker was like, yeah, yeah,
me too. And it's and apparently Elizabeth Warren and Bernie
Sanders they've all been doing they've all been doing it.
So it's it's very clear, like we now know who's
going to run for president. Why I'm ignoring too this
to right, could you explain is a bit more so
like you know the corporate packs that there are ways
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for corporations to to put large sums of money into
these groups and funnel them into campaigns versus like individual donors.
The Senate they don't rely as much on corporate packs
as much as House candidates do. But essentially it's a
way for them to say, I'm not going to accept
a T and T S money or I'm not going
to I'll accept the head of a T and T
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S money, but I will not be getting specifically trade
from the company I will be taking. Put them together.
So like if it's the American Medical Association, they have
a pack that they give money to and things like that.
So by them doing that, it's a way for them
to distance themselves by saying, like, financial laws here are
completely fucked and they've completely destroyed our political system. So
this is their way of saying, I'm above the fray.
I'm not going to do that, and look at me,
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I'm woke. So it's it was interesting because yeah, literally
hours after Cristy Jillibrand said she's not doing Cory Bookers
like me too, me too, I'm not gonna take it either.
So you're we're starting to see that where were they
not going to take money from from corporate packs from
corporate Yes, so to say that I'm not I'm not
sullied by corporations. I'm a pure politician interests exactly Bernie
has been doing that for a while. Elizabeth Warren has
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been doing that for a while, Martha Campbell has been
doing that for a while. But it's starting to see
like because Jilli, Brandon, Booker, and Warren, they're all looking
like sort of potential candidates for twenty So it's it's
interesting to see people sort of like fall in line out.
But then again, like if do do we mind? If
it looks like it pays to be good, it'll be.
I think that's no problem. I think it's great. It's
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just funny that, like within hours, it just sort of
shows we're starting to motivations. You want to make sure
you're on board, getting a little presidential and getting in
the racing stance. Yeah, I'm not sullied, although you know
over the years he's taking plenty of money, but I
have to in this game. Look, there's no way to
win without sucking taking this money. Whoever, whoever it ends
up being, I hope they go back to taking corporate
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money once they're in the general election. They can when
they're going against each other. But it's just weird. Please
please don't get blown out in an ad spend war
with the Trump campaign exactly as it has been a
blast having you. I have enjoyed my data profusely and
I don't know which of one of you I'm going
to pick. Well, you're paying either way for both of us.
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Thank you. Yes, I understand that everyone. Where can people
find you and follow you? Where can people find me
and follow me? That's a really Again four months ago
that would have been fined, so creepy. Um, please don't
will follow? Please don't. I've given you a lot of
my numbers, my old Irish house phone number and the
(53:35):
start of my US l So I feel like you've
got a lot to go on there, guys to start
sniffing around. And what am I doing? Oh? A drama
I'm in in the UK called hard Son, which is
by the guy Neil Cross who created Luther, and that
will be out on Hulu over here on March the seventh,
and the whole series drops, do we say drop? It
(53:57):
drops on March the seventh on Hulu, So that would
be the next thing maybe that I what about the
social media? Oh, social media's are big now? Um? My
Instagram on Twitter? Is we miss b? That's w E
M I S S B E A wonderful miles Oh
(54:18):
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(54:40):
our port the sources that we used for the articles
and stuff that you talked about today. Uh, that is
going to do it for today. Miles. Is there the
thing that you would like us right out feeling real?
You know, it's it's a romantic day, romantic night us.
So play this this boy? Yeah, you know, we just
(55:02):
want to sound of Miles great. Uh. And we got
a remix of a Surge of the Gangs board track
the Vali, which is a remix by how We Beat
and you know it's just got that little vibe. It's
a remix though it's not the original mob. But just
relax and uh, but they put the candles on for
(55:22):
yourself some bubbly. I just enjoy this Valentine's Day, which
your significant other or others. I hate this character by
the way it's not a character. Yeah, you know, that's
why I hate it. It shows this is me off
Mike all the time. But y'all don't really know. But anyway,
thank you so much. That's how wild talks around. Uh.
Rate and review of the show also, uh that that
(55:43):
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and the Smooth Jim unless you want to review it
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And that's gonna do it for today. We will be
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