November 23, 2021 • 63 mins
In episode 1036, Jack and Miles are joined by TV writer Anna Salinas to discuss Inflation? It’s called profiteering!, Thanksgiving Highlights America’s Rapid Test Quagmire and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to twelve, episode
two of The Daily. Like guys, the production of My
Heart Radio. This is a podcast were we taking to
you drive into America's sharing consciousness. It's Tuesday, November, which
is of course espresso day. Yeah, national et a Cranberry day,
(00:22):
just one. No, I think I think they mean the
band like one of the band members, Okay, yeah, right, yeah,
in recognition of cannibalism and yeah or yeah, you know,
whatever whatever you're into. But I've noticed a lot of
these days, like you can scroll down and you realize
there's like they just submit to this calendar and you
can get it. So I feel at some point maybe
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we will submit our own day. Maybe who knows International
Daily as I guys, Well, my name is Jack O'Brien,
a k getting choogy with it. Mo mo mo mo
mo mo mo mo Mo mo mo mo. That's courtesy
and some j Anson He was like, this has probably
already been done. I don't know. I don't get it,
(01:06):
so I don't know what what the mo is for.
Maybe it's like because I say mo instead of moment
or something. Maybe I don't know, but it was less
obvious thing you thought it was and Jensen and uh,
we appreciate you, man. And I'm thrilled to be joined
as always by my co host, Mr Miles Grass of me,
(01:33):
that's a red guest, too bad Facebook takes from White
and Blue, And I think to myself, what the fun
that the Lockeronia discord? I just like the just yeah,
(01:57):
And I think to myself, what the fuck? That was
the original the original version of that song. Yeah, they're
like Louis Man, we might we might have to change that. Yeah,
we will get to it, but what the fuck. Indeed, well, Miles,
We're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by
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a very funny TV writer, comedian, filmmaker, artist, and creator
the viral web comics Bad Comics by Anna, currently a
writer on the Apple comedy series Loot. Her half hour
comedy pilot Inside Kunt, about a vagina that starts transmitting
spy signals, was named to the Latin x TV Blacklist.
Please Welcome the hilarious, the talented Ana Selena. I feel like,
(02:44):
I thank you. I'm not on the show Loot anymore.
That writer's remanded I'm on another show. I feel like
if my co workers hear this, they'll be like, what
the fuck? Yeah, well hit us with the new it's
the Big Mouth spinoff. Oh yes, it's been announced, so
it's not like secret, that's right. I mean it's about
(03:05):
the monsters. Oh wait, what's I'm okay, I'm confusing many
different Deadline articles. There is a storyline on Big Mouth
where they follow Missy and stuff. M No, the show
is called Human Resources and it follows like the hormone
monsters and the anxiety mosquito and love bugs and stuff.
(03:26):
That's right up, it's perfect. Did it was so crazy?
I mean they definitely saw my comic and I was like,
in the meeting, I was just like, yeah, I mean
that is what my comic is. And it's yeah, it's
interesting to see all the ideas I ever had about
(03:47):
my comic explored in this show. And I'm like, okay, cool, yeah,
I'll figure out something else. Are you? I'm imagining you're
excited because I couldn't. This seems like such a great
creative fit for someone who regularly like will anthropomorphize or
you know, manifest physical and our emotions into characters. I am.
(04:08):
It's it's really fun. We're actually recording my episode right now,
so it's great. I love it. And yeah, animation is
so fun because you get to like immediately move into
production so you get to be a part of it
a little more. How's it turnaround for a show like that,
because like, you know, like for people who I know
wor work on like the like Fox anime shows are like,
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oh yeah, it'll premiere in fourteen months. Yeah, this comes
out in a billion years. So okay, I don't know
how much I can say because it's not that much
has been announced, but it comes out in like two years.
What I am writing comes out of Okay, Well, the
episodes of The Simpsons they're releasing this season, we're written
in the late nineties. Here. Yeah, it's just the process.
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The predictions were spot on, predict to cover. All Right, Donna,
we're gonna get to know you a little bit better
in a moment. First, we're gonna tell our listeners a
few of the things we're talking about. We're gonna look
at inflation, which is becoming a big buzzword, and talk
about like why why it's happening. Because I think generally
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people who aren't you know, ceo s and financial analysts
who have done time on Wall Street firms tend to
shy away from this because they're they're either they think
it's their fault for earning too much money, which is
what the corporate people tell us, or they feel like
it's too complex and it's really not that complicated. So
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we're gonna talk about that, and we're gonna talk about
the rapid test quagmire because you know, a lot of
people are looking to be able to test themselves test
relatives heading into Thanksgiving and that is not possible in
these United States, which might be news to people in
other countries. Since France, Germany, Belt, Great Britain you can
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just order a free test. Yeah. So we'll talk about
all that plenty more. But first on it, we do
like to ask eric guests, what is something from your
search history? Okay, so the last two things I searched
for were Randall Park wife and Catherine the Great husband
and epic shipping going on. Honestly, I was recording with
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Randall Park and very creepily was like, this is a
good looking guy. He seems so nice, what a great guy.
He probably has a girlfriend or a white now let
me just chat. I should just check, and I checked,
and he very much does and seems happily married. There
you but you know this answer was like why did
I check? What was going to come of? That mean
(06:56):
it's because you Definitely that sounds like you're like, let
me just see. So at the very least you were
he was a very charming seems like, oh my gosh,
so charming. But I think in my head, I was like,
you know what, But anyway, yeah, and I sit on
the records muted with my camera off, so I'm invisible
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to him, just like maybe he senses me, but he
could sense the vibe for sure, And then I was
looking up Catherine the Great Husband. I mean, this is
less exciting, but have you guys been watching The Great
the show on Hulu? It's so just dropped. And I
feel like everyone I talked to who's seen the show
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loves it and thinks it's so good. And I feel
crazy because I don't think it's that good. I don't
know what it is about l Fanning, but it feels
like a bunch of white women just like celebrating themselves.
I don't know, it feels so white feminist, and I
feel bad saying that because I I don't know. There's
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aspects of the show that are cool and I'm sure
talented people made it, but it's just so pop feminism.
But anyway, Nicholas Holt is the best part. And I
was like, how much of this is based on real life?
Let me look it up and spoiler alert, not a
lot is based on real life. Did uh? What was
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Did the actual husband look camera ready? No? He was
very not handsome. The actual husband was this like tiny,
little squirrelly man who just looks like a goober, like
a fucking goober. And she apparently when she took over
his throne and forced him to abdicate, she like killed
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him right away, but there's all these rumors that she
kept him prisoner, and it's like, of course the show
is going to try to keep alive Nicholas Holt. He's
the best part of the show. So I didn't know
Nicholas Holt. Is he a little boy from About a Boy?
Yes he is, and he grew up to be a charming,
handsome man who probably is married too. He's also the
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main dude, or the not the main dude, but like
the best character in Mad Max Fury Road. This is
the first time I thought about Nicholas as a as
a person other than being like, damn, that dude is
really doing it in mad Max Fury Road. But yeah,
he's also beast in X Men and pretty hand without
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a bunch of makeup. Onyeah yeah, and is he married?
Did you look at I didn't. I'm sure, Like I
don't even need to. He's too beloking not to be.
That's kind of my take these days. I'm like, oh,
if someone's a catch, they're taken, or if they're not,
then you're like, okay, so what's going on here? Yeah,
exam like something's wrong, which of course is me projecting
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on myself. But you know what I mean, something's wrong
with me and I'm single, So then the thing and
I'm I should I should stipulate I'm not single, but
I was single for a little bit, so that mentality
is still kind of there of just like you know,
you want to check, you want to see people's status. Look,
I'm in a very committed relationship and sometimes you got
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to do a quick heat check. What I mean, Like,
am I just on fire right now? Let me see
I'm not. I'm not good to know? Yeah, yeah, I
mean I think anyone who's like going to act like
this isn't the most universal thing, Like when you google
anybody's name, like the very first thing that comes up
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with his girlfriend. Yeah. I've actually taken a lot of
pleasure in following people I think are hot on TikTok
and Instagram. Like I've really gotten into and now I
get it. Like when I see someone really attractive on
a TV show, I'm like, oh, I'm going to follow
them and just like get there because it's you know
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what I mean. I don't know why it took me
so long to be this person who's, like, I guess,
a creep, but I started following porn stars on Twitter
because it's like why not live once? Yeah, there's nothing wrong.
There's not an animal immoral about just this is another person.
You're they're artists. You said, what's your art about? Okay, yeah,
you know it's I think it's beautiful and simple and
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there's some sort of taboo around women doing it. But
it's like, screw that. Yeah, I mean Nicholas Holt Space
brings up Nicholas Hoult wife, Nicholas Hoult girlfriend, Nicholas Holt height.
So oh he's tall. He's a tall man. Six to
there you go, oh, definitely not single if it's six
to because it's the online dating red flag height of
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five ten exactly where it's like, you know, they added
on four Randall Park space. First thing that pops up
Randall Park Wife then Randall Park net Worth. So they're like, oh,
but maybe space. You know, if you do Randall Park
and then put a space in, it starts auto completing. Right.
I thought it got real heavy for a second. It's
(12:08):
like Randall Park space. Yeah, we're all in space when
you think about it, Miles just hurdling through the inky
darkness on this blue marble that we call Earth. What
is something you think is overrated on it? This is
a little dark because of what happened recently in the news,
(12:30):
But I'm gonna say it because I do think it's true.
I think music festivals are very overrated. And I say
that because I went to Outside Lands in San Francisco
over Halloween and they're all these amazing acts, you know,
like the Strokes, Tyler Glass, Animals. Nellie was randomly there,
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Lizzo was the headliner, and on paper that's really cool.
It's like, yeah, I want to go see all those artists,
but the shows suck because man, I feel like I
figured out this scam and I'm pissed. So, like, Glass
Animals goes on to perform at six pm, and I'm like,
this music is pretty soft, and everyone is watching Glass
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Animals because they're really popular right now. So the whole
like all fifty people in this park or however many
it is, are crowded just to see fucking Glass Animals,
while some pour acoustic singers on the other stage that
no one cares about, and you couldn't hear. You couldn't
hear the music, and that music is meant to like
encircle you. And then lo and behold, Lizzo goes on
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at eight p m. And the music is blasting all
through the park. So they have the capability to turn
up this music so you don't have to squish yourself
to the front. They could just turn it louder so
people could fucking space out, but they don't, and that
is a scam and I am not okay with it.
And so because of that, I ended up not going
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to see a lot of these artists because I was like,
I don't want to deal with the crowd and whatever,
and I missed Nellie, which was maybe the whole point
of going to see Nellie oh man, I guess they
didn't hear a lot about him being in the news
much recently. But hey, yeah that's always can't find a
line up somewhere, we let our nostalgia dictate. Yeah, I'm
(14:22):
curious was there? So in your mind is this a conspiracy?
Like you're saying like they're turning Glass Animals down because
maybe they are trying to help A not like I'm
trying to pull up this that time to see like
who was playing when Glass Animals was playing, because it's
like the organizer's daughter was on acoustical Yeah, like the
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but like, yeah, because I really love outside Lands actually
as the festival. I was just talking about that because
we had a who was just there? But it's I
like it because of the music festivals. It's like the
most space and the most bathrooms and the most like
and more of like the things that like trouble me
about a That's what it was like. I got to
hold my PM for nine hours because like the lines
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are too long and then you can't get a good
spot whereas there you can be pretty like leisurely. But
I'm I'm sticking moving my point. Yeah, that I went
to the best of the best, the most space, the
most bathrooms. They had a whole weed space where you
go and buy there. Yeah, and still it fucking sucked.
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I was so tired and I tried so hard, and
everyone was so drunk in college age and I have
never in my life felt older. But let me tell
you something. Look, it may be a scam, but I
cracked the code. So they had this like club in
a tent and the line was like three hours long.
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It was That's another thing. What there's been three hours
at a music costival? A fucking line can you have?
But so I was like, I was like, I'm never
getting into that. But I went during Nellie and it
was the only time that that tent was empty and
you could go right in. So that was the price
get into that. Stupid everybody who was playing man enough.
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Fuck that was a line up on that day. Krungben
went on before Glass Animals, and then Kate Renata was
after Glass Animals, and then that led into Tyler or
you could have caused Sango at the house by wow,
I'm trying to find a conspiracy here, but it's a
lot of heavy hitters to you should know that Miles
(16:33):
is sponsored by Outside Lands, So this man, you're going
to get anytime, got that because actually the savings in
time alone make it worth the extra fos. Now, you know,
I'm just a fan, but shout out to Ranger Dave.
I think that's absolutely true about music festivals. Based on
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my experience of going to Coachella once was that it
was just like a total crap shoot And probably the
most disappointing live music experience I've ever had was seeing
Outcast live for the first time their first like reunion
show on that on that Yeah you were there first
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week or second week, second week, because I was My
strategy is always buy second week tickets because everyone wants
the first week tickets or back. You know, when I
used to go, so first week, the sound was all
funked up for the Outcast show, like you really and
then like I think Andre started getting like getting sort
of assuming that the audience just wasn't into them, and
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like so he started like kind of yelling at the audience.
But it was just like the sound fucking sucked. It
was so bad like for their show, they just hadn't
like dialed it in, and it's really tough. It's and
it's a tough thing for an artist because unless you're
the headliner and they blast that music and have it
all figured out your set, plus you get the set
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up on stage, like Tyler was in a fucking bow
on stage. That was really cool. But unless you have that,
it is a lot of space to fill up with
your presence. And Oh sevent Dy Shake, who I love,
went up and I guess she goes by oh seven
oh Shake, which I didn't know until I saw that show.
But put on a great show. But it's like this
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big gas stage and it was at the very beginning
of the festival, day one, so not a lot of
people were there. And she did the same thing where
she was kind of yelling at the audience like come on,
be excited, and you just saw everyone just like not
into it. And I was like, fuck this place, I'm
gonna go smoke some weed and Grasslands. Yeah, same stage.
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Kick Cuttie like at like one in the afternoon was incredible.
It was just it was a total crapshoot, you know,
they just like it. Also, he was out of his
mind on I think the same drugs that the audience
was on, so it worked out pretty well. That's perfect
the scam, I think, Yeah, I mean, like I think
what's the benefit is, Like I like the idea of
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like spending an entire like multiple days seeing just great
live music. But I think that's where things get a
little muddied, where like you run into the things that
you know, like would plague any sort of profit driven operation,
which is like they spent more money and like made
it very comfortable for everyone. It would be such a
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great experience. But like, really it feels like the guiding
principle for music festivals. How many fucking sweaty kids can
we cram into this parking lot and and still pay
the artists what they need and still for us make
the money that we need to make as the organizers. Yes,
And that kind of leads into the astra world thing
where it's like that was just too many people with
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too few strategies for how to control yeah or not
at all. Yeah, all right, let's take a quick break
and we'll come back. And here you're underrated and we're back,
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and you know, we do like to ask our guests
to bounce out in the overrated What is something you
think is underrated? Well, there's no way to sound cool
about this. But there have been some great period dramas
coming to television recently. I did talk about The Great,
which is technically a period comedy, and I don't put
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it on this list to The Great is something else,
you know whatever. I did watch it, but I really
liked this show on Amazon called Pursuit of Love with
I want to say Lily James or I always confused
the Lilies, but it's it's a beautiful period drama. This
other one, Howard's End was on Stars just came to Amazon,
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and uh, I think period dramas had a bad rep
for being like for old people are boring, but they're beautiful. Wait,
Howard's End that was? That was like a film, right?
They made that a series. I mean, I know it's
a novel, but I mean, like they've really made it
a series, and it's it's a Tom from Succession, isn't it?
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What I know? Yeah, it's hard for me to see
him like him as him, like just doing roles where
he's speaking with his like normal voice in a British accent,
and I can only imagine what just having all that
Tom stuff rattling through my head and trying to see
him be like was he like Paul Wilcox and Howard's
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or something, you know, yeah, it acts, yes he was,
and it works because he plays a snob in that too,
and he has that snob energy because he wasn't Pride
and Prejudice too as Mr Darcy, so he just plays
like snob, like flogged snob. Very well. That was supposed
to alight, Like when that pres and Prejudice came out,
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like it was a big deal and like it was
posted that, people were like, He's the next big thing,
and then it didn't really like blow up that way.
His career didn't blow that way. And then now like
just by being a British person who can see all
the things that are wrong with America and like channel
them as a business person. On Succession and another indie
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movie last year that I have now twice blanked on
the name of. I think it's in The Assistant. He
was great and again played kind of not in that right. Yeah,
so yeah, dope. Wait, so I'm sorry, what's Pursuit of Love?
What's that about? I think it's based on a book,
but it is this series and it's what's his name
(22:46):
from the affair who had literally like had an affair
on that show in real life too. Well, now I'm
blanking on his name, but he's the male lead of
the affair, right, Andrew Scott. I don't know from the wire? Yes? Yes?
How can I forget the wire? Yes? So he isn't it?
And it's just this very sweet, weirdly sex positive for
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a period drama show. But it's not like Sophy. It's
just like really earnest and that ship made me fucking
weep like a baby at the end. Yeah, and no
one is talking about it, and I'm like, that was
a great show. We're just gonna ignore it. Too many
shows out like it's wild. When you said that, I'm like,
I've maybe When you said these period dramas that are out,
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I was like, well, I think I've heard of what's
out there, and I was just like, I have not
heard of both of those songs. Now, if I come
at you with an underrated show, I'm gonna give you
an underrated show. Which period are we talking about? Like?
What part of history are we It is World War One,
I believe between yeah that is, and I don't Howard's
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end is late eighteen hundreds, maybe the same or maybe
a literal. I don't know. If I don't know, I
get a little confused. You know, there's a time where
all the clothes look like the same A little watch,
we already got the yeah exactly. They got that big
underskirt that they wear to make Oh yeah, that's World
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War one or something more. There. They got cars around there, right.
Pursuit of Love does sound like a Netflix stating reality show. Yeah,
I think that. Somebody to talk about that and been like, oh,
another Netflix dating show that love is Blind, that childless,
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loveless millennials on the brink of their forties. There you go. Yeah,
the Pursuit of Love. Oh god, that's depressing. Well, speaking
about depressing, let's talk about inflation. So it's the buzzword
of the season that's been used to explain everything from
the labor shortage to why turkeys are more ex sense
(25:00):
of this year. And yeah, it's just a convenient. I
mean it's happening. First of all, it is happening. Things
aren't getting more expensive. So the explanation that we're getting though,
is that it is all because of the labor class
being paid more. Yeah, that's one if you if you
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follow Stephanie Rule or if you're watching Tucker Carlson, it's
just to be like Joe Byron is trying to make
you poor, or if and or that, you know, at
the other at the other part of it. Corporations are
also kind of loving it too, but on a much
more subtle level because they're loving it because they're using
this to actually just raise prices on people, because they
(25:44):
can't because they see people are paying for it. Very cynically,
nothing to do with stressed supply chains. They're just like, yo,
let's reo good. Let's see if we can squeeze out
a couple of percentage points. Because this is a very
interesting statistic that was in the Wall Street Journal. Nearly
two out of three of the biggest US publicly traded
companies had larger profit margins this year than they did
(26:05):
in twenty nineteen. Okay, and that means nearly one hundred
of these massive corporations report profits that are fifty percent
above profit margins from twenty nineteen, pre pandemic. So they're
making many right now, and a lot of it is
(26:26):
being revealed in this article in the New Republic. You know,
people were sitting in on shareholder calls just to be like,
I wonder how this is being message to the people
that own the stock of some of these companies, and
what they're hearing is things like from this article quote
in these calls, business leaders employee fancy financial lingo to
tell large shareholders how they are engaging in quote pricing
(26:47):
improvements and quote successful pricing strategies. They tell you they
are experiencing customer quote elasticities to price increases at historically
low levels. When you decode what they're saying, it's nothing
us than a U fork articulation that they're able to
pass off price increases to consumers. We'll stop. And there's like,
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you know, on one hand, you'll have places like like
in the stock prices are going up because of this.
They're like loving, They're like, oh my god, wait what
And you're making more profits. This is fantastic. You look
at a company like Target who had come out and said,
you know, we're actually not going to be raising prices,
like we're able to kind of maintain what we have
and have like a healthy financial outlook by not raising prices,
(27:29):
and shareholders started dumping their stock and sending the stock
price down. So people were like, well, I don't want
to be on board with some company that's not going
to raise their prices to make more money, You fucking dumb.
And you know there's there's even on CNBC Jim Kramer
was talking about how like home Depot and Lows, they're
raising prices because they don't give a funk. And also
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they're literally in the mentality of who's gonna stop me? Boo,
like who gonna check me? Because the two of us
run the whole ship. This is from Jim Kramer talking
about how these two companies, Lows and Home Depot can
quote do no wrong because they're passing on rising costs
to the public, and the public has no choice because
these two chains have single handedly wiped out the competition already.
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So is what we're seeing, like the you know, the
pandemic caused the government to send out age two people
have lost their jobs, more people had more like government
assistance than they've had in a long time. Is that
where the quote unquote elasticity goes comes from. And like
(28:34):
the government aid those payments that we're supposed to like
help people get through rainy day, like the are just
immediately getting like hoovered up by Walmart, and like all
those corporations like yeah, yeah, but I mean, like, but
you did have a lot of Benny's you know, benefits
run out and for certain people all over the country
(28:55):
starting months ago. So even now, like just even when
we talked about that one dome see an npiece for
like my milk's ninety bucks a gallon now and it wasn't.
But I think they really like this idea that prices
It's it's just like, that's the thing about this, there's
a lot of nebulous data that is able to be
sort of harnessed for the aims of at this point
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corporations because I think at the end of the day,
more than like obviously the wealth extraction from consumers is
a huge thing for them, but more importantly, this is
feeding this narrative about what it means with Biden in
office and what he aims to do with some of
these infrastructure, like with build back better a lot of that,
Like the financing from that is to be like, yeah,
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we just gotta charge corporations like they're fair share and taxes.
That's how we pay for a lot of this ship.
So this is helping them create a little more instability
and uncertainty and consumers by raising their prices so they
make more money, while also saying, hey, man, if Joe
Byron is going to start passing all these other laws,
inflation is going to be even wilder. Hold onto your
(29:58):
whole butt and pay a check. And so that's also
their aim at sort of being like, now we can
kind of stoke and anti infrastructure movement that will protect
our tax rates. Right. It's like inflation has always been
politicized because it's what they were saying before the stimulus
path that first stimulus, like, oh, it can't pass the
stimulus package because it will spike inflation and that's bad.
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And then all these economists were like, no, it's not
really like that, like they're overblowing this risk, right. But
I think that's where you see like sort of like
the vested interests. When we have debates like this of
like do we help people or do we raise corporate taxes,
and there are many people who are just on the
human ground level, we're like, yes, please, that sounds great. Unfortunately,
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the messaging and the access to all the levers of
like mainstream communication have vested interests in the same way,
we're like, we're not paying more fucking taxes. You're kidding me.
We're just gonna talk about this inflation and start banging
that drum and look the other way. Yeah, there's also
just with regards to the supply chain. An explanation I
actually heard on the it could happen here Daily showy.
(31:07):
They interviewed somebody who works at a like soda manufacturing
plant and has worked in various manufacturing jobs like over
the past four or five years. They were talking about
how the big change that's happened is that corporations have
now embraced this thing called just in time production, which
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means that right, what, like you don't start producing something
until there's a demand for it, and like you don't.
It's it's like there's no there's no you're not like
storing anything. There's no overhead. It's just like, okay, so
they ran out of this and we're hearing they need more.
Now we produce it, and like that basically creates It's
(31:53):
cheaper for the companies. It gives them better margins because
there's no overhead and there's no like producing something that
then doesn't get sold. The problem is that there's no
like elasticity in the supply chain, so like you don't
have extras. If suddenly there's a a bunch of you know,
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this person worked as a casket manufacturer in the past,
so if there's suddenly a need for casket suddenly, the
way that they deal with that is they just worked
people inhumanely around the clock until like they can get
that supply met. It's once again, just the values of
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the market of quarterly earnings, calls of CEOs who have
just extracted the humanity from the workers and from the
laborers and turned it into just you know, values on
a spreadsheet. And you know, that is what economics is.
That's what the modern version of capitalism is. And like
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market logic is just like remove the humanity, think of
everything as like the numbers are the numbers good? Yeah, yeah,
so that's not great, But again it's it's just the
overall system. It's the same overall system that we're talking
about with regards to the inflation, right, And I mean
at a certain point, you know, like you're you're slowly
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seeing more and more people take up for themselves and
organize themselves to have a better outcomes for them you know,
for them themselves. Yet again, to use that word, you know,
as it relates to their employment and what benefits they get.
And I can only see I don't think just in
time production habits are going to necessarily extinguish those flames.
(33:42):
I feel like it's I'm curious what they're looking at
two like, because at this point, all the forecasting that happens,
whether it's like risk they're worth taking because let's say like, well,
this thing is faulty and we might get sued, but
we can afford it as long as we make enough
money up front. Like what kind of stuff they're already
looking at in terms of the unrest will be like
with their employees and how to navigate that and see like,
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well we could scab it up for this time, just
skate through Q four and then calling the Pinkerton's Well,
the really insidious thing that he was talking about is
that by making it such a like flexible system where
you need to like move move around and like, Okay,
I'm gonna put this person on on this job, it
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actually makes like he was saying that he's in a
union shop, but the people who are in a non
union shop, actually we're in slightly better working conditions as
of this moment because they had flexibility, but that's all
because of the inhumane orders coming down, Like they're better
able to deal with the inhumane orders coming down. So
it's like the just in time production is creating a
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system where like it makes it harder for people who
are unionized, which is fucking bullshit, right, Yeah, that it
does feel like that's a trend though, Like I don't
like it's harder to be unionized working for a corporation
like Amazon. And I feel like Walmart was maybe the
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writing on the wall where it was like Walmart was
union busting and people are trying to stop Walmart's from
being built in their town. Now it's like, fuck it,
we don't need stores in our towns. We can just
have Amazon, right yeah, yeah, well this is uh. I mean,
we're living in a very historic time, especially, like even
more than ever. I can't. I just look at things
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and I'm like, how do these people with like who
have all the capital really think that at a certain
point like that, that you can just run someone down
to the point they're like, Okay, I'll just die on
the factory floor. Yeah, Like I mean, and it does
happen places, absolutely, but at a certain point enough people
are going to really, Like, I'm just it's it's always
(35:53):
fascinating to see how disconnected those people can be from
like what the what the actual reality is of the
situation there. It's fascinating. But the show Succession exists for
a reason and it's beautiful, well run TV. But I mean,
it's like, you don't have exposure. That's our stratisy, like
our stratified society where you don't have exposure to the
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working class if you're in that corporate right, Yeah, you're
the poorest person, you know, is what? Greg? Yeah, you
know what I mean? Yeah, And you find his problems amusing,
right right, right right, and you laugh about it. And
he's only poor because his grandpa doesn't want to give him. Yeah,
(36:37):
Like what one of the things that I've just been like,
I'm continuing to think over. I'm reading that book Debt
by David Graber, which is the history of its basically
a new history of economic systems like throughout human history.
Prior to this, most of my understanding of like how
economics works was based on economists, you know, like people
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who study economics and like subscribe to that Adam Smith,
the idea that like, well everybody is a financial actor
who was like acting in their own self interest. And
this book argues that like that is actually like that
ideal of humans just acting in self interest, being like
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the most basic thing was like introduced by Hobbs and
Leviathan was seen as like super cynical at the time
that it was introduced and like not an accurate description
of humanity because we existed in like small communities that
helped each other out. But within like a hundred years,
it was the default like assumption because it is so profitable.
(37:43):
It's so it's so helpful to people to make money,
and it's going to be assumed, and it like makes
a sort of shrewd logic or a sort of shrewd sense,
and it like feels like the sort of thing that's
like tough and like realist, but it's actually not how
humanity has been. For the vast, vast majority of our
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history is a species. For the majority of our history
is species. We've been you know that the idea that
you would just extract as much value from humans as
he possibly can is rightly seen as like colonizing. It's
the Yeah, it's the foundation of colonizing. Yeah, Oh, here's
(38:28):
this group I can push him around. What's this now,
they're they're they're making me money. Great, move on to
the next town of weeks and I'll rinse and repeat
and to dehumanizing the process. All right, let's take a
quick break and we'll be right back. And we're back.
(38:54):
What an eventful break. We just had a superroducer Justin
pitched us his predator or investing firm just in Time.
That's all I'll say. I won't tell you all his blueprint.
But apparently when your name is Justin, do you hear
that pun a lot? And I didn't think, yeah, a
look who it is? And just in Time? I just
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I there was actually, uh, there was a like a
Stanford student who created like a streaming web video called
just in Time. And I remember that's where you used
to watch a ton of pirated sports. So it's definitely
a well treaded name. Yeah. It's also the spec script
for a sequel to Nick of Time that I've but
(39:37):
I've written. Have you guys seen Nick of Time? That's
the one Christopher Walking and his most over the top
Christal something yeah or something. Yeah, it's a it's like
my friends in college with the most quoted movie like
back and forth, quoting Nick of Time constantly. That sounds
(40:01):
like you guys were fun to hang out without a
bar at the table who had not seen that movie.
There's a group of dudes that are just like by
themselves doing inside jokes the whole time. They're the hottest
guys at this bar. Also, so, Miles, you were saying
you got funny jokes about your name being Miles, Like,
(40:22):
it's just it's colomb, It's just that it's just like
metrics ship or or you hilarious. I have to say
pretty good. Yeah, they are exactly and they're really effective
because they're effective at demonstrating you don't know shit about
being funny. Damn did someone go Miles, are you inches?
And then you were like, I don't. I remember like
(40:45):
in like third grade there was like they were like
like witty teachers would begin to like do stuff like that.
I don't even know. Dude's just go on with the
lesson about how if I don't know, if I can't
recite this Bible verse, I'm gonna get an as Yeah. Unfortunately,
as a child named Jack at a time when not
many children were named Jack, I never got anything about
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jacking offer my uncle Jack. Did you ever experience fifth grade? Yeah? No,
I'm joking. It was all anybody okay, good, good, because
even I mean, they got creative with my name. They
skipped my first name and went straight to my second name.
My last name is said Selena' Selena's my penis, And
(41:27):
I was like, but you know, it was it was.
It was brutal out there. They can't even hit you
with like a Selena type joke. Yeah you think, But
I didn't get those jokes until I turned like twenty
six and someone was like, anything for Selena? Yeah right,
I wonder, Yeah, maybe that's like a since you're a
little bit younger, because we were all in on anything Selena.
(41:50):
But I feel like that wave took a second to
come back around again. I mean, I was watching the
j Lo movie on whatever, like VH one when it
would play at three day, but no one got there
until later in my life. And now I get it
every few days. Every few days someone's like Selina's anything
for Selena's And I'm like, please anything else with? Yeah? Alright, Well,
(42:15):
speaking of our childhood's, many are returning to childhood homes,
to our families from our childhood because Thanksgiving is coming up,
just a reminder, but also the Thanksgiving season is highlighting
that America does not have enough rapid COVID tests. That's
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the most sought after kind of Thanksgiving item this year,
aside from all the liquor we need to deal with.
That is things were already these were already hard to find,
and now they're basically a tickle me elmo in levels
hard to find. What the fuck? Someone was like begging
(42:57):
themselves up on Instagram. They're like, fun, I got the
last two of blah blah blah. I was like, what
are you talking about? But I didn't realize it's really
it's like that now. Yeah, And I mean it makes sense.
We're going to see elderly relatives. They're they're coming to
see us. You wanna you wanna get tested? They cost
between fourteen and fifty dollars and often limited to just
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one per customer. Just tell that to my friend on Instagram.
Yeah well yeah, but yeah. And then because there's a
as with like the sneaker market, because people can't find
them in the store, they're being listed for crazy amounts
by third party sellers on so it's like Amazon has
(43:41):
heard about that, which it's just you know, inexcusable. Also,
like but it does seem like the very most basic thing,
Like Okay, you guys claim this like market will solve
all problems, so like solve that here here, Yeah, it
at us and it's just not happening when it's such
(44:03):
a basic thing to write. It's like, do you want
to give the population the ability to know if they
have COVID? Like, yeah, that's a I think that's a
fundamental first step people were mean to take in their
decision making with anything and to be like, oh, yeah,
we kind of dropped the ball on this, Like well,
then this whole thing is a mistake. If I was president,
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I would send every single person a COVID test, just
like did they send us all like something masks right,
did a mask? I would do that. Everyone would get
a COVID test right before the holidays, and it would
be so easy if everyone had access to that. Yeah there,
(44:44):
I know. And I say that as someone who just
flew through l A X and the most crowded massless. Yeah,
I was just kissing people left and right. I had
my dog, I was kissing her. She was kissing people.
I would say of puting people's drinks on the flight
just to make and then spidding them back out so
they could drink them. Yeah, yeah, but I mean that's
(45:07):
a like, that's a nice thought, but like that, what
what is this twenty fifty like? Is? Is not? You're
not gonna be able to send everybody a free rapid
tests delivered to their homes unless you're in Britain right now,
which is what they're doing. People can get a free
rapid test delivered to their homes many parts of Europe.
The tests are plentiful and cheap. So what the funk
(45:30):
happened in the US? So the US policy was mostly
focused on vaccination because we we love a you know,
a big last minute save, a big like you know,
solution that's gonna wipe out the problem, and other countries
focused more on screening. But meanwhile, the FDA is approval
process of these tests moved painfully slow. There are only
(45:53):
twelve approved tests, even though the FDA received more than
four thousand, five hundred emergency authorizations and related requests for
COVID tests. That's way behind other countries. They have thirty
nine rapid self administered antigen tests authorized in the EU.
But I also want to just kind of put a
(46:13):
note in here because I do feel like, well, the
FDA sucks at their job. Brief note of explanation for
the fiscal year defense budget was seven fifty three point
five billion at a time with no major war, which
just major wars we're trying to wind down, I guess
during an unprecedented global pandemic. The f das budget is
(46:37):
five point nine billion, nearly half of which is from
user fees, which is the companies that they're supposed to
be regulating paying them to their draft. All right, come
up with those fees real quick, so damn yeah. And
you know, critics argue that the high standards that the
(47:00):
FDA is putting in place or odds with public health demands,
which is true, but it's probably you know, they have
corporate donors like everything in America. They want our tests
to be too accurate in a pandemic. This is bullshit.
It should be like one in one in like five times.
It's right, That's like good enough, dude. Then you can
(47:22):
buy five fucking tests and I'll make more money. But
that is that I I guess that's kind of the logic,
and I kind of agree with it. That like that
they are being too withholding and too slow on like
people are like, if you just had enough tests, then
like some tests that are you know, accurate, are better
(47:42):
than no tests that are zero. You know, I guess
that's true. Yeah, but God, at the very least, why
aren't we we have to Like it's like at every time,
every turn, we just ignore like the wisdom gained by
other countries and how they've battled the pandemic, like like
with especially when you watch that pandemic documentary that came
(48:03):
out last year that was like on Hulu and like
everything under control or whatever, and they talked to like
the Korean epidemiologist who was like in charge of like
South Korea's response, and he like was living with the
pain that like like something like less than forty people
died and during like a previous outbreak, and he was like,
I wasn't gonna I'm not I didn't sunk around this time,
and like testing, like the testing regime became a huge
(48:26):
factor and at least understanding what was going on, whereas
here it's just like the vibe strategy of just like
I don't know, I like, do you feel like you
have it? If not, then like you don't come like
for sure and like, don't test if you don't want
to ruin your plans. You know, that's ship I hear
right now of like, well, I don't know that if
(48:46):
I test positive that I can't go to this thing.
I'm like, then what are you doing? Then fucking don't
do anything to ensure your safety. Don't just do the
thing because you're like, I don't want to be verified
that I'm now a contagion. There's a lot of It
sets off a lot of weird stuff too, I think
because we're so we don't know our own status after time,
because testing isn't How did I How was I allowed
(49:08):
to fly across the country on one of the busiest
days of flying without having to show any proof of
a test or vaccine? Like what I have to show
proof of vaccine to get into my movie theater, and
I don't have to show it to travel across the country. Yeah,
that's that's that's where we see that tension between the
(49:29):
state and the film. Oh my god, yeah, no, I'm I'm.
I went to a Chinese restaurant and I got my
ship checked up like right away, and I forgot we
were in that new phase in l A where it's
like no, nasty too, they're not around yeah, and I
was like damn. And then like one dude, I remember
another customer, they're like their their name was like a
(49:50):
shortened version of their full name, and they're like is
this you And they're like it's yes, and they're like yeah,
all right, I Like I love it. I fucking love it. Yeah,
strict like check the name really good. They're like calling
his name from over his left shoulder to see if
he turned around check bring it on. But yeah, I
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mean it. It makes sense as like just generally a
part of this broad American value of like, you know,
finding out that your COVID positive bad look. You know
a lot of not like people testing positive for COVID
bad look for the government. So but like getting vaccine,
it's almost like America as a corporation is like trying
(50:35):
to pass our quarterly earnings reports like with you know,
the with voters in the world, and we're just like,
al right, so let's justil this vaccine and it'll all
be done. But like we're finding that the vaccine is
an ongoing process that we need to like keep getting them,
and that there's going to be ongoing outbreaks, and it
(50:58):
sucks that America's all He's going to be lagging behind
because of this just half past system that doesn't give
a shit about the humans and the Yeah. But the
thing I don't understand is like, even when Trump was
president and Biden too, they had these big things where
they're like, I'm with the people of Walmart and Target.
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Now we're teaming up to fuck COVID straight up. There's
gonna be out of here because we were gonna make
sure they can get tests whatever you need. And I'm like, right,
I remember that was said. But now we're talking about
a situation where it's like, I don't know, you can
knife fight over a fucking at home kit at a
Walgreens now. So in September, the White House announced the
(51:41):
bold plan to make testing more available to the masses,
proclaiming that Walmart, Amazon, and Kroger would sell COVID nineteen
tests at cost for the following three months, So three
whole months of not being screwed by some of the
largest corporations on Earth until the pandemic ends it. Yeah,
it's gonna be done in three months, and also for
(52:02):
most of the first two months the tests were sold
out in stores and were sold at heightened prices by
third party sellers on sites like oh Amazon and Walmart. So,
oh my god, this self owned because people can like
use their e commerce infrastructure, yeah, or not cell pwned
or like that's how it was supposed to work all along. Yeah,
(52:25):
the FDA process, you know, it's not just that the
FDA has high standards. There have been reports that their
approval process processes arbitrary and opaque. One company submitted a
rabbit test to FDA in February and didn't hear back
until June, at which point the FDA sent them a
list of questions with a deadline of forty eight hours
to respond. They didn't make the deadline, and the application
(52:47):
was quote sent to the back of the line, which
sounds a lot like, you know, any like wildly underfunded
government bureaucracy, any sort of you know, if you want
to get any sort of government aid, you have to
like basically become a bureaucrat and like make it your
full time job to get the help that you already need,
(53:09):
even when not working a full time job as a
fucking government bureaucrat. And this sounds like the same thing.
They don't have enough people, they don't have enough money
going into this massive, fucking global catastrophe, and so everyone's
everyone in the government is shitty. Hum all right, that
was eye opening. Wow. Yeah, I don't know. I happy Thanksgiving? Yeah, Thanksgiving? Hey,
(53:33):
you know. And also I'm selling bootleg tests. Hit me
up on Twitter. Yeah. Yeah, they only tell you what
you want to know. It's there. I'm like, what do
you You're trying to get out of this thing. You're
trying to go. Oh, you're trying to go. You're good.
Negative pregnancy tests you just stick in your mouth and
they're like, yo, Miles, you having me spit on a
(53:54):
fucking comes with your very own COVID mood ring. That yeah,
except if it's purple. It's unclear which it is. That
were I feel like we're not far off from that
kind of ship, you know. I mean, well, are you
already see the Apple? Just bath in this bathe in
this borax? I think I think Apple watches and order
(54:19):
rings were like helpful in determining because heightened heart rate
was a symptom of COVID. They actually were a diagnostic tool.
Oh okay, yeah, that's on me. Tim that's on me.
But you know, just one last point of comparison. Other
countries not only approved more tests, they also contracted companies
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in order to provide millions of them free of charged individuals.
And that's just not something that the US has done
until now that they're getting pushed back in the Biden administration.
The company that is like the main provider of these tests, Abbot.
So this is a a good example of the you know,
need based, just in time production model. So when COVID
(55:06):
cases in the US dipped in the springtime of this
company literally throughout a bunch of their products, stuffing them
in garbage bags. And then they laid off two thousand
people because, according to one of their managers, numbers are
going down. This is all about money. That that's a
direct quote. When cases surge, not long afterwards, the company
was scrambling to hire back hundreds of workers. The company
(55:29):
was going through trash, yeah, to dig up those tests.
Oh my god. So the market is logical and it
answers all the problems in a timely manner. Yes, But yeah, then,
and we're still begging to any any regular person who
would turn on the TV if the media would even
(55:50):
have a reckoning with this kind of thing, Like the
story would be like this is scandalous, how how greed
is running rough shot through the country and creating completely
But again, like I already sound like someone who would
be laughed off of a CNN segment, which just shows
you how well people are conditioned to even hearing things
of like very logical, like impassioned, Please to like be
(56:14):
like not immoral just sounds like you're you've got birkenstocks
growing off your hands or something. Look, people make fun
of gratitude Burke, but all she's doing is being like
what the fuck are you guys doing? You know, let's climate,
but still like it's just a passion, please to not ruin. Hey, child,
you're like, I don't know if you heard what she said.
(56:35):
The clock is fucking ticking, and in that building they're
just circle jerking laughing it up because they're not gonna
be around to see the worst of it. Like, Okay,
she's so fiery, are turn her into a meme? Anna,
It's been such a pleasure as always having your pleasure,
truly pleasure. Where can people find you and follow you?
(56:58):
You can find me on Instagram and Twitter at bad
comics with an X by Anna with two ends and
the shows The show'morgan now won't be out for a while.
But I wrote on a show called Flatbush Misdemeanors on
Showtime and you can watch that now came out a
little bit ago. Nice. Yeah, so I was like two
(57:20):
shows behind in my intro. No, no, no no, just one.
That show just happens to be out right now. I
gotta gott you know what I mean? So you could
go see episode seven, that's the one I wrote. Yeah,
I mean, don't just watch. You should watch them in
order or it won't make sense. Nah, my parents only watch. Yeah,
(57:42):
Like my favorite was okay, but it was a little confusing,
Like you should have told us the plot for the
right set up. Yeah, if you have an hour, I'll
go through a series you can understand. But no, I
want to see the one you did. Yeah. Yeah. Is
there a tweet or some of the work of so
media you've been enjoying? Yeah, you know, gosh, I have been.
(58:06):
I have to Okay, I don't remember the handle, but
I'm going to find it. There's an Instagram that puts
cat faces on different animals, and in a dark world,
it has been bringing me a lot of simple joy.
Like I was literally looking at it on the plane
and I laughed out loud, and that's so stupid, Like
(58:26):
I'm getting so old that I'm laughing at cat faces
on giraffes. But it's beautiful, man, it's beautiful. I like
that too. Yeah, my cat faces on giraffes. Every animal
is better with a cat face. That seems like, yeah, yeah,
or it's definitely worth that just quick thought experiment. Yeah, okay,
(58:48):
it's it's she's Russian, I guess, so it's hard to pronounce.
It's Cody. That's it's spelled ko t y underscore v
e z d as in dog e. There it is,
all right, check it out. Yeah, And it's just cat
faces on other animals. That's the whole thing. It's the
(59:11):
simplest thing sometimes, you know. Yeah, Miles, where can people
find you? What is the tweet you've been enjoying? Oh? Man,
you can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles
of Gray. Uh. And also the other show for Twenty
Day Fiance, We're Sophia Alexander and I talk about off
of that herb do you feel me? Uh? Some tweets
(59:33):
that are like this one is from at Joshua Potash,
whose displain name is read Pedagogy of the Oppressed by
Paulo Prairie fantastic. And in this one, it's just a picture.
It's like, he says, God, this is bleak, and it's
a photo of apparently an ad that is on like
an outside of a Burger King, and it's a bunch
(59:53):
of like old senior citizens and it says, who says
you have to retire at Burger King? We welcome your
variance in leadership. If you're energetic, friendly and service oriented,
we have a full or part time position on your
on our team. And they're just like so cool. They
sounds fun I mean like and this like it's funny
(01:00:15):
though too, because this group of elderly people, it looks
like what I like, I remember when I was like
applying to college is what college brosures used to look like, Like,
you'll get the most diverse motherfucker's at this school on
the front of this motherfucking book. And it's like it's
like a Benetton ad but for people that were adult
diapers shout out to them. Look I'm not mad at him,
but oh no, the tweet, I like, God, taken down,
(01:00:37):
so okay this, but the other tweet I like is
from at Underscore Underscore Incandescent, and she tweeted What I
love about gen Z is they'll take an ell and
immediately post a TikTok about it. It's very good for
my love of mess. And damn this tweet that was there,
so I was they linked to a TikTok video that Twitter.
I guess they got the video down, but it was
this girl sitting outside of a like an apartment hallway
(01:01:00):
with her luggage next to her, and she goes like,
my stupid ass went to go visit, like visit this guy,
and he's like and a woman answered the door and
just beat the ship out of me. Now I'm stranged.
Was like, but she was like someone was filming her
and she like had like a track going on and
it was very like making a TikTok out of your
like terrible mistake. And I was like, this is so real,
(01:01:21):
but yeah, credit to that. What I love about gen
Z is they've taken out and immediately posted TikTok about it.
It's so true. There's so many crying TikTok's of people
just being like these are my tears. This is what happened,
and I'm like, for me, someone who my foregut reaction
to people crying in public is to be uncomfortable. It
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just one. No, I think I think they mean the
band like one of the band members, Okay, yeah, right, yeah,
in recognition of cannibalism and yeah or yeah, you know,
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these days, like you can scroll down and you realize
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that's a red guest, too bad Facebook takes from White
and Blue, And I think to myself, what the fun
that the Lockeronia discord? I just like the just yeah,
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And I think to myself, what the fuck? That was
the original the original version of that song. Yeah, they're
like Louis Man, we might we might have to change that. Yeah,
we will get to it, but what the fuck. Indeed, well, Miles,
We're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by
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a very funny TV writer, comedian, filmmaker, artist, and creator
the viral web comics Bad Comics by Anna, currently a
writer on the Apple comedy series Loot. Her half hour
comedy pilot Inside Kunt, about a vagina that starts transmitting
spy signals, was named to the Latin x TV Blacklist.
Please Welcome the hilarious, the talented Ana Selena. I feel like,
(02:44):
I thank you. I'm not on the show Loot anymore.
That writer's remanded I'm on another show. I feel like
if my co workers hear this, they'll be like, what
the fuck? Yeah, well hit us with the new it's
the Big Mouth spinoff. Oh yes, it's been announced, so
it's not like secret, that's right. I mean it's about
(03:05):
the monsters. Oh wait, what's I'm okay, I'm confusing many
different Deadline articles. There is a storyline on Big Mouth
where they follow Missy and stuff. M No, the show
is called Human Resources and it follows like the hormone
monsters and the anxiety mosquito and love bugs and stuff.
(03:26):
That's right up, it's perfect. Did it was so crazy?
I mean they definitely saw my comic and I was like,
in the meeting, I was just like, yeah, I mean
that is what my comic is. And it's yeah, it's
interesting to see all the ideas I ever had about
(03:47):
my comic explored in this show. And I'm like, okay, cool, yeah,
I'll figure out something else. Are you? I'm imagining you're
excited because I couldn't. This seems like such a great
creative fit for someone who regularly like will anthropomorphize or
you know, manifest physical and our emotions into characters. I am.
(04:08):
It's it's really fun. We're actually recording my episode right now,
so it's great. I love it. And yeah, animation is
so fun because you get to like immediately move into
production so you get to be a part of it
a little more. How's it turnaround for a show like that,
because like, you know, like for people who I know
wor work on like the like Fox anime shows are like,
(04:30):
oh yeah, it'll premiere in fourteen months. Yeah, this comes
out in a billion years. So okay, I don't know
how much I can say because it's not that much
has been announced, but it comes out in like two years.
What I am writing comes out of Okay, Well, the
episodes of The Simpsons they're releasing this season, we're written
in the late nineties. Here. Yeah, it's just the process.
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The predictions were spot on, predict to cover. All Right, Donna,
we're gonna get to know you a little bit better
in a moment. First, we're gonna tell our listeners a
few of the things we're talking about. We're gonna look
at inflation, which is becoming a big buzzword, and talk
about like why why it's happening. Because I think generally
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people who aren't you know, ceo s and financial analysts
who have done time on Wall Street firms tend to
shy away from this because they're they're either they think
it's their fault for earning too much money, which is
what the corporate people tell us, or they feel like
it's too complex and it's really not that complicated. So
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we're gonna talk about that, and we're gonna talk about
the rapid test quagmire because you know, a lot of
people are looking to be able to test themselves test
relatives heading into Thanksgiving and that is not possible in
these United States, which might be news to people in
other countries. Since France, Germany, Belt, Great Britain you can
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just order a free test. Yeah. So we'll talk about
all that plenty more. But first on it, we do
like to ask eric guests, what is something from your
search history? Okay, so the last two things I searched
for were Randall Park wife and Catherine the Great husband
and epic shipping going on. Honestly, I was recording with
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Randall Park and very creepily was like, this is a
good looking guy. He seems so nice, what a great guy.
He probably has a girlfriend or a white now let
me just chat. I should just check, and I checked,
and he very much does and seems happily married. There
you but you know this answer was like why did
I check? What was going to come of? That mean
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it's because you Definitely that sounds like you're like, let
me just see. So at the very least you were
he was a very charming seems like, oh my gosh,
so charming. But I think in my head, I was like,
you know what, But anyway, yeah, and I sit on
the records muted with my camera off, so I'm invisible
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to him, just like maybe he senses me, but he
could sense the vibe for sure, And then I was
looking up Catherine the Great Husband. I mean, this is
less exciting, but have you guys been watching The Great
the show on Hulu? It's so just dropped. And I
feel like everyone I talked to who's seen the show
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loves it and thinks it's so good. And I feel
crazy because I don't think it's that good. I don't
know what it is about l Fanning, but it feels
like a bunch of white women just like celebrating themselves.
I don't know, it feels so white feminist, and I
feel bad saying that because I I don't know. There's
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aspects of the show that are cool and I'm sure
talented people made it, but it's just so pop feminism.
But anyway, Nicholas Holt is the best part. And I
was like, how much of this is based on real life?
Let me look it up and spoiler alert, not a
lot is based on real life. Did uh? What was
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Did the actual husband look camera ready? No? He was
very not handsome. The actual husband was this like tiny,
little squirrelly man who just looks like a goober, like
a fucking goober. And she apparently when she took over
his throne and forced him to abdicate, she like killed
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him right away, but there's all these rumors that she
kept him prisoner, and it's like, of course the show
is going to try to keep alive Nicholas Holt. He's
the best part of the show. So I didn't know
Nicholas Holt. Is he a little boy from About a Boy?
Yes he is, and he grew up to be a charming,
handsome man who probably is married too. He's also the
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main dude, or the not the main dude, but like
the best character in Mad Max Fury Road. This is
the first time I thought about Nicholas as a as
a person other than being like, damn, that dude is
really doing it in mad Max Fury Road. But yeah,
he's also beast in X Men and pretty hand without
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a bunch of makeup. Onyeah yeah, and is he married?
Did you look at I didn't. I'm sure, Like I
don't even need to. He's too beloking not to be.
That's kind of my take these days. I'm like, oh,
if someone's a catch, they're taken, or if they're not,
then you're like, okay, so what's going on here? Yeah,
exam like something's wrong, which of course is me projecting
(09:52):
on myself. But you know what I mean, something's wrong
with me and I'm single, So then the thing and
I'm I should I should stipulate I'm not single, but
I was single for a little bit, so that mentality
is still kind of there of just like you know,
you want to check, you want to see people's status. Look,
I'm in a very committed relationship and sometimes you got
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to do a quick heat check. What I mean, Like,
am I just on fire right now? Let me see
I'm not. I'm not good to know? Yeah, yeah, I
mean I think anyone who's like going to act like
this isn't the most universal thing, Like when you google
anybody's name, like the very first thing that comes up
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with his girlfriend. Yeah. I've actually taken a lot of
pleasure in following people I think are hot on TikTok
and Instagram. Like I've really gotten into and now I
get it. Like when I see someone really attractive on
a TV show, I'm like, oh, I'm going to follow
them and just like get there because it's you know
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what I mean. I don't know why it took me
so long to be this person who's, like, I guess,
a creep, but I started following porn stars on Twitter
because it's like why not live once? Yeah, there's nothing wrong.
There's not an animal immoral about just this is another person.
You're they're artists. You said, what's your art about? Okay, yeah,
you know it's I think it's beautiful and simple and
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there's some sort of taboo around women doing it. But
it's like, screw that. Yeah, I mean Nicholas Holt Space
brings up Nicholas Hoult wife, Nicholas Hoult girlfriend, Nicholas Holt height.
So oh he's tall. He's a tall man. Six to
there you go, oh, definitely not single if it's six
to because it's the online dating red flag height of
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five ten exactly where it's like, you know, they added
on four Randall Park space. First thing that pops up
Randall Park Wife then Randall Park net Worth. So they're like, oh,
but maybe space. You know, if you do Randall Park
and then put a space in, it starts auto completing. Right.
I thought it got real heavy for a second. It's
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like Randall Park space. Yeah, we're all in space when
you think about it, Miles just hurdling through the inky
darkness on this blue marble that we call Earth. What
is something you think is overrated on it? This is
a little dark because of what happened recently in the news,
(12:30):
But I'm gonna say it because I do think it's true.
I think music festivals are very overrated. And I say
that because I went to Outside Lands in San Francisco
over Halloween and they're all these amazing acts, you know,
like the Strokes, Tyler Glass, Animals. Nellie was randomly there,
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Lizzo was the headliner, and on paper that's really cool.
It's like, yeah, I want to go see all those artists,
but the shows suck because man, I feel like I
figured out this scam and I'm pissed. So, like, Glass
Animals goes on to perform at six pm, and I'm like,
this music is pretty soft, and everyone is watching Glass
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Animals because they're really popular right now. So the whole
like all fifty people in this park or however many
it is, are crowded just to see fucking Glass Animals,
while some pour acoustic singers on the other stage that
no one cares about, and you couldn't hear. You couldn't
hear the music, and that music is meant to like
encircle you. And then lo and behold, Lizzo goes on
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at eight p m. And the music is blasting all
through the park. So they have the capability to turn
up this music so you don't have to squish yourself
to the front. They could just turn it louder so
people could fucking space out, but they don't, and that
is a scam and I am not okay with it.
And so because of that, I ended up not going
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to see a lot of these artists because I was like,
I don't want to deal with the crowd and whatever,
and I missed Nellie, which was maybe the whole point
of going to see Nellie oh man, I guess they
didn't hear a lot about him being in the news
much recently. But hey, yeah that's always can't find a
line up somewhere, we let our nostalgia dictate. Yeah, I'm
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curious was there? So in your mind is this a conspiracy?
Like you're saying like they're turning Glass Animals down because
maybe they are trying to help A not like I'm
trying to pull up this that time to see like
who was playing when Glass Animals was playing, because it's
like the organizer's daughter was on acoustical Yeah, like the
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but like, yeah, because I really love outside Lands actually
as the festival. I was just talking about that because
we had a who was just there? But it's I
like it because of the music festivals. It's like the
most space and the most bathrooms and the most like
and more of like the things that like trouble me
about a That's what it was like. I got to
hold my PM for nine hours because like the lines
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are too long and then you can't get a good
spot whereas there you can be pretty like leisurely. But
I'm I'm sticking moving my point. Yeah, that I went
to the best of the best, the most space, the
most bathrooms. They had a whole weed space where you
go and buy there. Yeah, and still it fucking sucked.
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I was so tired and I tried so hard, and
everyone was so drunk in college age and I have
never in my life felt older. But let me tell
you something. Look, it may be a scam, but I
cracked the code. So they had this like club in
a tent and the line was like three hours long.
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It was That's another thing. What there's been three hours
at a music costival? A fucking line can you have?
But so I was like, I was like, I'm never
getting into that. But I went during Nellie and it
was the only time that that tent was empty and
you could go right in. So that was the price
get into that. Stupid everybody who was playing man enough.
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Fuck that was a line up on that day. Krungben
went on before Glass Animals, and then Kate Renata was
after Glass Animals, and then that led into Tyler or
you could have caused Sango at the house by wow,
I'm trying to find a conspiracy here, but it's a
lot of heavy hitters to you should know that Miles
(16:33):
is sponsored by Outside Lands, So this man, you're going
to get anytime, got that because actually the savings in
time alone make it worth the extra fos. Now, you know,
I'm just a fan, but shout out to Ranger Dave.
I think that's absolutely true about music festivals. Based on
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my experience of going to Coachella once was that it
was just like a total crap shoot And probably the
most disappointing live music experience I've ever had was seeing
Outcast live for the first time their first like reunion
show on that on that Yeah you were there first
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week or second week, second week, because I was My
strategy is always buy second week tickets because everyone wants
the first week tickets or back. You know, when I
used to go, so first week, the sound was all
funked up for the Outcast show, like you really and
then like I think Andre started getting like getting sort
of assuming that the audience just wasn't into them, and
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like so he started like kind of yelling at the audience.
But it was just like the sound fucking sucked. It
was so bad like for their show, they just hadn't
like dialed it in, and it's really tough. It's and
it's a tough thing for an artist because unless you're
the headliner and they blast that music and have it
all figured out your set, plus you get the set
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up on stage, like Tyler was in a fucking bow
on stage. That was really cool. But unless you have that,
it is a lot of space to fill up with
your presence. And Oh sevent Dy Shake, who I love,
went up and I guess she goes by oh seven
oh Shake, which I didn't know until I saw that show.
But put on a great show. But it's like this
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big gas stage and it was at the very beginning
of the festival, day one, so not a lot of
people were there. And she did the same thing where
she was kind of yelling at the audience like come on,
be excited, and you just saw everyone just like not
into it. And I was like, fuck this place, I'm
gonna go smoke some weed and Grasslands. Yeah, same stage.
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Kick Cuttie like at like one in the afternoon was incredible.
It was just it was a total crapshoot, you know,
they just like it. Also, he was out of his
mind on I think the same drugs that the audience
was on, so it worked out pretty well. That's perfect
the scam, I think, Yeah, I mean, like I think
what's the benefit is, Like I like the idea of
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like spending an entire like multiple days seeing just great
live music. But I think that's where things get a
little muddied, where like you run into the things that
you know, like would plague any sort of profit driven operation,
which is like they spent more money and like made
it very comfortable for everyone. It would be such a
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great experience. But like, really it feels like the guiding
principle for music festivals. How many fucking sweaty kids can
we cram into this parking lot and and still pay
the artists what they need and still for us make
the money that we need to make as the organizers. Yes,
And that kind of leads into the astra world thing
where it's like that was just too many people with
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too few strategies for how to control yeah or not
at all. Yeah, all right, let's take a quick break
and we'll come back. And here you're underrated and we're back,
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and you know, we do like to ask our guests
to bounce out in the overrated What is something you
think is underrated? Well, there's no way to sound cool
about this. But there have been some great period dramas
coming to television recently. I did talk about The Great,
which is technically a period comedy, and I don't put
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it on this list to The Great is something else,
you know whatever. I did watch it, but I really
liked this show on Amazon called Pursuit of Love with
I want to say Lily James or I always confused
the Lilies, but it's it's a beautiful period drama. This
other one, Howard's End was on Stars just came to Amazon,
(20:56):
and uh, I think period dramas had a bad rep
for being like for old people are boring, but they're beautiful. Wait,
Howard's End that was? That was like a film, right?
They made that a series. I mean, I know it's
a novel, but I mean, like they've really made it
a series, and it's it's a Tom from Succession, isn't it?
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What I know? Yeah, it's hard for me to see
him like him as him, like just doing roles where
he's speaking with his like normal voice in a British accent,
and I can only imagine what just having all that
Tom stuff rattling through my head and trying to see
him be like was he like Paul Wilcox and Howard's
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or something, you know, yeah, it acts, yes he was,
and it works because he plays a snob in that too,
and he has that snob energy because he wasn't Pride
and Prejudice too as Mr Darcy, so he just plays
like snob, like flogged snob. Very well. That was supposed
to alight, Like when that pres and Prejudice came out,
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like it was a big deal and like it was
posted that, people were like, He's the next big thing,
and then it didn't really like blow up that way.
His career didn't blow that way. And then now like
just by being a British person who can see all
the things that are wrong with America and like channel
them as a business person. On Succession and another indie
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movie last year that I have now twice blanked on
the name of. I think it's in The Assistant. He
was great and again played kind of not in that right. Yeah,
so yeah, dope. Wait, so I'm sorry, what's Pursuit of Love?
What's that about? I think it's based on a book,
but it is this series and it's what's his name
(22:46):
from the affair who had literally like had an affair
on that show in real life too. Well, now I'm
blanking on his name, but he's the male lead of
the affair, right, Andrew Scott. I don't know from the wire? Yes? Yes?
How can I forget the wire? Yes? So he isn't it?
And it's just this very sweet, weirdly sex positive for
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a period drama show. But it's not like Sophy. It's
just like really earnest and that ship made me fucking
weep like a baby at the end. Yeah, and no
one is talking about it, and I'm like, that was
a great show. We're just gonna ignore it. Too many
shows out like it's wild. When you said that, I'm like,
I've maybe When you said these period dramas that are out,
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I was like, well, I think I've heard of what's
out there, and I was just like, I have not
heard of both of those songs. Now, if I come
at you with an underrated show, I'm gonna give you
an underrated show. Which period are we talking about? Like?
What part of history are we It is World War One,
I believe between yeah that is, and I don't Howard's
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end is late eighteen hundreds, maybe the same or maybe
a literal. I don't know. If I don't know, I
get a little confused. You know, there's a time where
all the clothes look like the same A little watch,
we already got the yeah exactly. They got that big
underskirt that they wear to make Oh yeah, that's World
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War one or something more. There. They got cars around there, right.
Pursuit of Love does sound like a Netflix stating reality show. Yeah,
I think that. Somebody to talk about that and been like, oh,
another Netflix dating show that love is Blind, that childless,
(24:39):
loveless millennials on the brink of their forties. There you go. Yeah,
the Pursuit of Love. Oh god, that's depressing. Well, speaking
about depressing, let's talk about inflation. So it's the buzzword
of the season that's been used to explain everything from
the labor shortage to why turkeys are more ex sense
(25:00):
of this year. And yeah, it's just a convenient. I
mean it's happening. First of all, it is happening. Things
aren't getting more expensive. So the explanation that we're getting though,
is that it is all because of the labor class
being paid more. Yeah, that's one if you if you
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follow Stephanie Rule or if you're watching Tucker Carlson, it's
just to be like Joe Byron is trying to make
you poor, or if and or that, you know, at
the other at the other part of it. Corporations are
also kind of loving it too, but on a much
more subtle level because they're loving it because they're using
this to actually just raise prices on people, because they
(25:44):
can't because they see people are paying for it. Very cynically,
nothing to do with stressed supply chains. They're just like, yo,
let's reo good. Let's see if we can squeeze out
a couple of percentage points. Because this is a very
interesting statistic that was in the Wall Street Journal. Nearly
two out of three of the biggest US publicly traded
companies had larger profit margins this year than they did
(26:05):
in twenty nineteen. Okay, and that means nearly one hundred
of these massive corporations report profits that are fifty percent
above profit margins from twenty nineteen, pre pandemic. So they're
making many right now, and a lot of it is
(26:26):
being revealed in this article in the New Republic. You know,
people were sitting in on shareholder calls just to be like,
I wonder how this is being message to the people
that own the stock of some of these companies, and
what they're hearing is things like from this article quote
in these calls, business leaders employee fancy financial lingo to
tell large shareholders how they are engaging in quote pricing
(26:47):
improvements and quote successful pricing strategies. They tell you they
are experiencing customer quote elasticities to price increases at historically
low levels. When you decode what they're saying, it's nothing
us than a U fork articulation that they're able to
pass off price increases to consumers. We'll stop. And there's like,
(27:08):
you know, on one hand, you'll have places like like
in the stock prices are going up because of this.
They're like loving, They're like, oh my god, wait what
And you're making more profits. This is fantastic. You look
at a company like Target who had come out and said,
you know, we're actually not going to be raising prices,
like we're able to kind of maintain what we have
and have like a healthy financial outlook by not raising prices,
(27:29):
and shareholders started dumping their stock and sending the stock
price down. So people were like, well, I don't want
to be on board with some company that's not going
to raise their prices to make more money, You fucking dumb.
And you know there's there's even on CNBC Jim Kramer
was talking about how like home Depot and Lows, they're
raising prices because they don't give a funk. And also
(27:51):
they're literally in the mentality of who's gonna stop me? Boo,
like who gonna check me? Because the two of us
run the whole ship. This is from Jim Kramer talking
about how these two companies, Lows and Home Depot can
quote do no wrong because they're passing on rising costs
to the public, and the public has no choice because
these two chains have single handedly wiped out the competition already.
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So is what we're seeing, like the you know, the
pandemic caused the government to send out age two people
have lost their jobs, more people had more like government
assistance than they've had in a long time. Is that
where the quote unquote elasticity goes comes from. And like
(28:34):
the government aid those payments that we're supposed to like
help people get through rainy day, like the are just
immediately getting like hoovered up by Walmart, and like all
those corporations like yeah, yeah, but I mean, like, but
you did have a lot of Benny's you know, benefits
run out and for certain people all over the country
(28:55):
starting months ago. So even now, like just even when
we talked about that one dome see an npiece for
like my milk's ninety bucks a gallon now and it wasn't.
But I think they really like this idea that prices
It's it's just like, that's the thing about this, there's
a lot of nebulous data that is able to be
sort of harnessed for the aims of at this point
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corporations because I think at the end of the day,
more than like obviously the wealth extraction from consumers is
a huge thing for them, but more importantly, this is
feeding this narrative about what it means with Biden in
office and what he aims to do with some of
these infrastructure, like with build back better a lot of that,
Like the financing from that is to be like, yeah,
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we just gotta charge corporations like they're fair share and taxes.
That's how we pay for a lot of this ship.
So this is helping them create a little more instability
and uncertainty and consumers by raising their prices so they
make more money, while also saying, hey, man, if Joe
Byron is going to start passing all these other laws,
inflation is going to be even wilder. Hold onto your
(29:58):
whole butt and pay a check. And so that's also
their aim at sort of being like, now we can
kind of stoke and anti infrastructure movement that will protect
our tax rates. Right. It's like inflation has always been
politicized because it's what they were saying before the stimulus
path that first stimulus, like, oh, it can't pass the
stimulus package because it will spike inflation and that's bad.
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And then all these economists were like, no, it's not
really like that, like they're overblowing this risk, right. But
I think that's where you see like sort of like
the vested interests. When we have debates like this of
like do we help people or do we raise corporate taxes,
and there are many people who are just on the
human ground level, we're like, yes, please, that sounds great. Unfortunately,
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the messaging and the access to all the levers of
like mainstream communication have vested interests in the same way,
we're like, we're not paying more fucking taxes. You're kidding me.
We're just gonna talk about this inflation and start banging
that drum and look the other way. Yeah, there's also
just with regards to the supply chain. An explanation I
actually heard on the it could happen here Daily showy.
(31:07):
They interviewed somebody who works at a like soda manufacturing
plant and has worked in various manufacturing jobs like over
the past four or five years. They were talking about
how the big change that's happened is that corporations have
now embraced this thing called just in time production, which
(31:28):
means that right, what, like you don't start producing something
until there's a demand for it, and like you don't.
It's it's like there's no there's no you're not like
storing anything. There's no overhead. It's just like, okay, so
they ran out of this and we're hearing they need more.
Now we produce it, and like that basically creates It's
(31:53):
cheaper for the companies. It gives them better margins because
there's no overhead and there's no like producing something that
then doesn't get sold. The problem is that there's no
like elasticity in the supply chain, so like you don't
have extras. If suddenly there's a a bunch of you know,
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this person worked as a casket manufacturer in the past,
so if there's suddenly a need for casket suddenly, the
way that they deal with that is they just worked
people inhumanely around the clock until like they can get
that supply met. It's once again, just the values of
(32:37):
the market of quarterly earnings, calls of CEOs who have
just extracted the humanity from the workers and from the
laborers and turned it into just you know, values on
a spreadsheet. And you know, that is what economics is.
That's what the modern version of capitalism is. And like
(32:58):
market logic is just like remove the humanity, think of
everything as like the numbers are the numbers good? Yeah, yeah,
so that's not great, But again it's it's just the
overall system. It's the same overall system that we're talking
about with regards to the inflation, right, And I mean
at a certain point, you know, like you're you're slowly
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seeing more and more people take up for themselves and
organize themselves to have a better outcomes for them you know,
for them themselves. Yet again, to use that word, you know,
as it relates to their employment and what benefits they get.
And I can only see I don't think just in
time production habits are going to necessarily extinguish those flames.
(33:42):
I feel like it's I'm curious what they're looking at
two like, because at this point, all the forecasting that happens,
whether it's like risk they're worth taking because let's say like, well,
this thing is faulty and we might get sued, but
we can afford it as long as we make enough
money up front. Like what kind of stuff they're already
looking at in terms of the unrest will be like
with their employees and how to navigate that and see like,
(34:04):
well we could scab it up for this time, just
skate through Q four and then calling the Pinkerton's Well,
the really insidious thing that he was talking about is
that by making it such a like flexible system where
you need to like move move around and like, Okay,
I'm gonna put this person on on this job, it
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actually makes like he was saying that he's in a
union shop, but the people who are in a non
union shop, actually we're in slightly better working conditions as
of this moment because they had flexibility, but that's all
because of the inhumane orders coming down, Like they're better
able to deal with the inhumane orders coming down. So
it's like the just in time production is creating a
(34:49):
system where like it makes it harder for people who
are unionized, which is fucking bullshit, right, Yeah, that it
does feel like that's a trend though, Like I don't
like it's harder to be unionized working for a corporation
like Amazon. And I feel like Walmart was maybe the
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writing on the wall where it was like Walmart was
union busting and people are trying to stop Walmart's from
being built in their town. Now it's like, fuck it,
we don't need stores in our towns. We can just
have Amazon, right yeah, yeah, well this is uh. I mean,
we're living in a very historic time, especially, like even
more than ever. I can't. I just look at things
(35:32):
and I'm like, how do these people with like who
have all the capital really think that at a certain
point like that, that you can just run someone down
to the point they're like, Okay, I'll just die on
the factory floor. Yeah, Like I mean, and it does
happen places, absolutely, but at a certain point enough people
are going to really, Like, I'm just it's it's always
(35:53):
fascinating to see how disconnected those people can be from
like what the what the actual reality is of the
situation there. It's fascinating. But the show Succession exists for
a reason and it's beautiful, well run TV. But I mean,
it's like, you don't have exposure. That's our stratisy, like
our stratified society where you don't have exposure to the
(36:15):
working class if you're in that corporate right, Yeah, you're
the poorest person, you know, is what? Greg? Yeah, you
know what I mean? Yeah, And you find his problems amusing,
right right, right right, and you laugh about it. And
he's only poor because his grandpa doesn't want to give him. Yeah,
(36:37):
Like what one of the things that I've just been like,
I'm continuing to think over. I'm reading that book Debt
by David Graber, which is the history of its basically
a new history of economic systems like throughout human history.
Prior to this, most of my understanding of like how
economics works was based on economists, you know, like people
(36:58):
who study economics and like subscribe to that Adam Smith,
the idea that like, well everybody is a financial actor
who was like acting in their own self interest. And
this book argues that like that is actually like that
ideal of humans just acting in self interest, being like
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the most basic thing was like introduced by Hobbs and
Leviathan was seen as like super cynical at the time
that it was introduced and like not an accurate description
of humanity because we existed in like small communities that
helped each other out. But within like a hundred years,
it was the default like assumption because it is so profitable.
(37:43):
It's so it's so helpful to people to make money,
and it's going to be assumed, and it like makes
a sort of shrewd logic or a sort of shrewd sense,
and it like feels like the sort of thing that's
like tough and like realist, but it's actually not how
humanity has been. For the vast, vast majority of our
(38:07):
history is a species. For the majority of our history
is species. We've been you know that the idea that
you would just extract as much value from humans as
he possibly can is rightly seen as like colonizing. It's
the Yeah, it's the foundation of colonizing. Yeah, Oh, here's
(38:28):
this group I can push him around. What's this now,
they're they're they're making me money. Great, move on to
the next town of weeks and I'll rinse and repeat
and to dehumanizing the process. All right, let's take a
quick break and we'll be right back. And we're back.
(38:54):
What an eventful break. We just had a superroducer Justin
pitched us his predator or investing firm just in Time.
That's all I'll say. I won't tell you all his blueprint.
But apparently when your name is Justin, do you hear
that pun a lot? And I didn't think, yeah, a
look who it is? And just in Time? I just
(39:16):
I there was actually, uh, there was a like a
Stanford student who created like a streaming web video called
just in Time. And I remember that's where you used
to watch a ton of pirated sports. So it's definitely
a well treaded name. Yeah. It's also the spec script
for a sequel to Nick of Time that I've but
(39:37):
I've written. Have you guys seen Nick of Time? That's
the one Christopher Walking and his most over the top
Christal something yeah or something. Yeah, it's a it's like
my friends in college with the most quoted movie like
back and forth, quoting Nick of Time constantly. That sounds
(40:01):
like you guys were fun to hang out without a
bar at the table who had not seen that movie.
There's a group of dudes that are just like by
themselves doing inside jokes the whole time. They're the hottest
guys at this bar. Also, so, Miles, you were saying
you got funny jokes about your name being Miles, Like,
(40:22):
it's just it's colomb, It's just that it's just like
metrics ship or or you hilarious. I have to say
pretty good. Yeah, they are exactly and they're really effective
because they're effective at demonstrating you don't know shit about
being funny. Damn did someone go Miles, are you inches?
And then you were like, I don't. I remember like
(40:45):
in like third grade there was like they were like
like witty teachers would begin to like do stuff like that.
I don't even know. Dude's just go on with the
lesson about how if I don't know, if I can't
recite this Bible verse, I'm gonna get an as Yeah. Unfortunately,
as a child named Jack at a time when not
many children were named Jack, I never got anything about
(41:06):
jacking offer my uncle Jack. Did you ever experience fifth grade? Yeah? No,
I'm joking. It was all anybody okay, good, good, because
even I mean, they got creative with my name. They
skipped my first name and went straight to my second name.
My last name is said Selena' Selena's my penis, And
(41:27):
I was like, but you know, it was it was.
It was brutal out there. They can't even hit you
with like a Selena type joke. Yeah you think, But
I didn't get those jokes until I turned like twenty
six and someone was like, anything for Selena? Yeah right,
I wonder, Yeah, maybe that's like a since you're a
little bit younger, because we were all in on anything Selena.
(41:50):
But I feel like that wave took a second to
come back around again. I mean, I was watching the
j Lo movie on whatever, like VH one when it
would play at three day, but no one got there
until later in my life. And now I get it
every few days. Every few days someone's like Selina's anything
for Selena's And I'm like, please anything else with? Yeah? Alright, Well,
(42:15):
speaking of our childhood's, many are returning to childhood homes,
to our families from our childhood because Thanksgiving is coming up,
just a reminder, but also the Thanksgiving season is highlighting
that America does not have enough rapid COVID tests. That's
(42:35):
the most sought after kind of Thanksgiving item this year,
aside from all the liquor we need to deal with.
That is things were already these were already hard to find,
and now they're basically a tickle me elmo in levels
hard to find. What the fuck? Someone was like begging
(42:57):
themselves up on Instagram. They're like, fun, I got the
last two of blah blah blah. I was like, what
are you talking about? But I didn't realize it's really
it's like that now. Yeah, And I mean it makes sense.
We're going to see elderly relatives. They're they're coming to
see us. You wanna you wanna get tested? They cost
between fourteen and fifty dollars and often limited to just
(43:19):
one per customer. Just tell that to my friend on Instagram.
Yeah well yeah, but yeah. And then because there's a
as with like the sneaker market, because people can't find
them in the store, they're being listed for crazy amounts
by third party sellers on so it's like Amazon has
(43:41):
heard about that, which it's just you know, inexcusable. Also,
like but it does seem like the very most basic thing,
Like Okay, you guys claim this like market will solve
all problems, so like solve that here here, Yeah, it
at us and it's just not happening when it's such
(44:03):
a basic thing to write. It's like, do you want
to give the population the ability to know if they
have COVID? Like, yeah, that's a I think that's a
fundamental first step people were mean to take in their
decision making with anything and to be like, oh, yeah,
we kind of dropped the ball on this, Like well,
then this whole thing is a mistake. If I was president,
(44:24):
I would send every single person a COVID test, just
like did they send us all like something masks right,
did a mask? I would do that. Everyone would get
a COVID test right before the holidays, and it would
be so easy if everyone had access to that. Yeah there,
(44:44):
I know. And I say that as someone who just
flew through l A X and the most crowded massless. Yeah,
I was just kissing people left and right. I had
my dog, I was kissing her. She was kissing people.
I would say of puting people's drinks on the flight
just to make and then spidding them back out so
they could drink them. Yeah, yeah, but I mean that's
(45:07):
a like, that's a nice thought, but like that, what
what is this twenty fifty like? Is? Is not? You're
not gonna be able to send everybody a free rapid
tests delivered to their homes unless you're in Britain right now,
which is what they're doing. People can get a free
rapid test delivered to their homes many parts of Europe.
The tests are plentiful and cheap. So what the funk
(45:30):
happened in the US? So the US policy was mostly
focused on vaccination because we we love a you know,
a big last minute save, a big like you know,
solution that's gonna wipe out the problem, and other countries
focused more on screening. But meanwhile, the FDA is approval
process of these tests moved painfully slow. There are only
(45:53):
twelve approved tests, even though the FDA received more than
four thousand, five hundred emergency authorizations and related requests for
COVID tests. That's way behind other countries. They have thirty
nine rapid self administered antigen tests authorized in the EU.
But I also want to just kind of put a
(46:13):
note in here because I do feel like, well, the
FDA sucks at their job. Brief note of explanation for
the fiscal year defense budget was seven fifty three point
five billion at a time with no major war, which
just major wars we're trying to wind down, I guess
during an unprecedented global pandemic. The f das budget is
(46:37):
five point nine billion, nearly half of which is from
user fees, which is the companies that they're supposed to
be regulating paying them to their draft. All right, come
up with those fees real quick, so damn yeah. And
you know, critics argue that the high standards that the
(47:00):
FDA is putting in place or odds with public health demands,
which is true, but it's probably you know, they have
corporate donors like everything in America. They want our tests
to be too accurate in a pandemic. This is bullshit.
It should be like one in one in like five times.
It's right, That's like good enough, dude. Then you can
(47:22):
buy five fucking tests and I'll make more money. But
that is that I I guess that's kind of the logic,
and I kind of agree with it. That like that
they are being too withholding and too slow on like
people are like, if you just had enough tests, then
like some tests that are you know, accurate, are better
(47:42):
than no tests that are zero. You know, I guess
that's true. Yeah, but God, at the very least, why
aren't we we have to Like it's like at every time,
every turn, we just ignore like the wisdom gained by
other countries and how they've battled the pandemic, like like
with especially when you watch that pandemic documentary that came
(48:03):
out last year that was like on Hulu and like
everything under control or whatever, and they talked to like
the Korean epidemiologist who was like in charge of like
South Korea's response, and he like was living with the
pain that like like something like less than forty people
died and during like a previous outbreak, and he was like,
I wasn't gonna I'm not I didn't sunk around this time,
and like testing, like the testing regime became a huge
(48:26):
factor and at least understanding what was going on, whereas
here it's just like the vibe strategy of just like
I don't know, I like, do you feel like you
have it? If not, then like you don't come like
for sure and like, don't test if you don't want
to ruin your plans. You know, that's ship I hear
right now of like, well, I don't know that if
(48:46):
I test positive that I can't go to this thing.
I'm like, then what are you doing? Then fucking don't
do anything to ensure your safety. Don't just do the
thing because you're like, I don't want to be verified
that I'm now a contagion. There's a lot of It
sets off a lot of weird stuff too, I think
because we're so we don't know our own status after time,
because testing isn't How did I How was I allowed
(49:08):
to fly across the country on one of the busiest
days of flying without having to show any proof of
a test or vaccine? Like what I have to show
proof of vaccine to get into my movie theater, and
I don't have to show it to travel across the country. Yeah,
that's that's that's where we see that tension between the
(49:29):
state and the film. Oh my god, yeah, no, I'm I'm.
I went to a Chinese restaurant and I got my
ship checked up like right away, and I forgot we
were in that new phase in l A where it's
like no, nasty too, they're not around yeah, and I
was like damn. And then like one dude, I remember
another customer, they're like their their name was like a
(49:50):
shortened version of their full name, and they're like is
this you And they're like it's yes, and they're like yeah,
all right, I Like I love it. I fucking love it. Yeah,
strict like check the name really good. They're like calling
his name from over his left shoulder to see if
he turned around check bring it on. But yeah, I
(50:13):
mean it. It makes sense as like just generally a
part of this broad American value of like, you know,
finding out that your COVID positive bad look. You know
a lot of not like people testing positive for COVID
bad look for the government. So but like getting vaccine,
it's almost like America as a corporation is like trying
(50:35):
to pass our quarterly earnings reports like with you know,
the with voters in the world, and we're just like,
al right, so let's justil this vaccine and it'll all
be done. But like we're finding that the vaccine is
an ongoing process that we need to like keep getting them,
and that there's going to be ongoing outbreaks, and it
(50:58):
sucks that America's all He's going to be lagging behind
because of this just half past system that doesn't give
a shit about the humans and the Yeah. But the
thing I don't understand is like, even when Trump was
president and Biden too, they had these big things where
they're like, I'm with the people of Walmart and Target.
(51:20):
Now we're teaming up to fuck COVID straight up. There's
gonna be out of here because we were gonna make
sure they can get tests whatever you need. And I'm like, right,
I remember that was said. But now we're talking about
a situation where it's like, I don't know, you can
knife fight over a fucking at home kit at a
Walgreens now. So in September, the White House announced the
(51:41):
bold plan to make testing more available to the masses,
proclaiming that Walmart, Amazon, and Kroger would sell COVID nineteen
tests at cost for the following three months, So three
whole months of not being screwed by some of the
largest corporations on Earth until the pandemic ends it. Yeah,
it's gonna be done in three months, and also for
(52:02):
most of the first two months the tests were sold
out in stores and were sold at heightened prices by
third party sellers on sites like oh Amazon and Walmart. So,
oh my god, this self owned because people can like
use their e commerce infrastructure, yeah, or not cell pwned
or like that's how it was supposed to work all along. Yeah,
(52:25):
the FDA process, you know, it's not just that the
FDA has high standards. There have been reports that their
approval process processes arbitrary and opaque. One company submitted a
rabbit test to FDA in February and didn't hear back
until June, at which point the FDA sent them a
list of questions with a deadline of forty eight hours
to respond. They didn't make the deadline, and the application
(52:47):
was quote sent to the back of the line, which
sounds a lot like, you know, any like wildly underfunded
government bureaucracy, any sort of you know, if you want
to get any sort of government aid, you have to
like basically become a bureaucrat and like make it your
full time job to get the help that you already need,
(53:09):
even when not working a full time job as a
fucking government bureaucrat. And this sounds like the same thing.
They don't have enough people, they don't have enough money
going into this massive, fucking global catastrophe, and so everyone's
everyone in the government is shitty. Hum all right, that
was eye opening. Wow. Yeah, I don't know. I happy Thanksgiving? Yeah, Thanksgiving? Hey,
(53:33):
you know. And also I'm selling bootleg tests. Hit me
up on Twitter. Yeah. Yeah, they only tell you what
you want to know. It's there. I'm like, what do
you You're trying to get out of this thing. You're
trying to go. Oh, you're trying to go. You're good.
Negative pregnancy tests you just stick in your mouth and
they're like, yo, Miles, you having me spit on a
(53:54):
fucking comes with your very own COVID mood ring. That yeah,
except if it's purple. It's unclear which it is. That
were I feel like we're not far off from that
kind of ship, you know. I mean, well, are you
already see the Apple? Just bath in this bathe in
this borax? I think I think Apple watches and order
(54:19):
rings were like helpful in determining because heightened heart rate
was a symptom of COVID. They actually were a diagnostic tool.
Oh okay, yeah, that's on me. Tim that's on me.
But you know, just one last point of comparison. Other
countries not only approved more tests, they also contracted companies
(54:42):
in order to provide millions of them free of charged individuals.
And that's just not something that the US has done
until now that they're getting pushed back in the Biden administration.
The company that is like the main provider of these tests, Abbot.
So this is a a good example of the you know,
need based, just in time production model. So when COVID
(55:06):
cases in the US dipped in the springtime of this
company literally throughout a bunch of their products, stuffing them
in garbage bags. And then they laid off two thousand
people because, according to one of their managers, numbers are
going down. This is all about money. That that's a
direct quote. When cases surge, not long afterwards, the company
was scrambling to hire back hundreds of workers. The company
(55:29):
was going through trash, yeah, to dig up those tests.
Oh my god. So the market is logical and it
answers all the problems in a timely manner. Yes, But yeah, then,
and we're still begging to any any regular person who
would turn on the TV if the media would even
(55:50):
have a reckoning with this kind of thing, Like the
story would be like this is scandalous, how how greed
is running rough shot through the country and creating completely
But again, like I already sound like someone who would
be laughed off of a CNN segment, which just shows
you how well people are conditioned to even hearing things
of like very logical, like impassioned, Please to like be
(56:14):
like not immoral just sounds like you're you've got birkenstocks
growing off your hands or something. Look, people make fun
of gratitude Burke, but all she's doing is being like
what the fuck are you guys doing? You know, let's climate,
but still like it's just a passion, please to not ruin. Hey, child,
you're like, I don't know if you heard what she said.
(56:35):
The clock is fucking ticking, and in that building they're
just circle jerking laughing it up because they're not gonna
be around to see the worst of it. Like, Okay,
she's so fiery, are turn her into a meme? Anna,
It's been such a pleasure as always having your pleasure,
truly pleasure. Where can people find you and follow you?
(56:58):
You can find me on Instagram and Twitter at bad
comics with an X by Anna with two ends and
the shows The show'morgan now won't be out for a while.
But I wrote on a show called Flatbush Misdemeanors on
Showtime and you can watch that now came out a
little bit ago. Nice. Yeah, so I was like two
(57:20):
shows behind in my intro. No, no, no no, just one.
That show just happens to be out right now. I
gotta gott you know what I mean? So you could
go see episode seven, that's the one I wrote. Yeah,
I mean, don't just watch. You should watch them in
order or it won't make sense. Nah, my parents only watch. Yeah,
(57:42):
Like my favorite was okay, but it was a little confusing,
Like you should have told us the plot for the
right set up. Yeah, if you have an hour, I'll
go through a series you can understand. But no, I
want to see the one you did. Yeah. Yeah. Is
there a tweet or some of the work of so
media you've been enjoying? Yeah, you know, gosh, I have been.
(58:06):
I have to Okay, I don't remember the handle, but
I'm going to find it. There's an Instagram that puts
cat faces on different animals, and in a dark world,
it has been bringing me a lot of simple joy.
Like I was literally looking at it on the plane
and I laughed out loud, and that's so stupid, Like
(58:26):
I'm getting so old that I'm laughing at cat faces
on giraffes. But it's beautiful, man, it's beautiful. I like
that too. Yeah, my cat faces on giraffes. Every animal
is better with a cat face. That seems like, yeah, yeah,
or it's definitely worth that just quick thought experiment. Yeah, okay,
(58:48):
it's it's she's Russian, I guess, so it's hard to pronounce.
It's Cody. That's it's spelled ko t y underscore v
e z d as in dog e. There it is,
all right, check it out. Yeah, And it's just cat
faces on other animals. That's the whole thing. It's the
(59:11):
simplest thing sometimes, you know. Yeah, Miles, where can people
find you? What is the tweet you've been enjoying? Oh? Man,
you can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles
of Gray. Uh. And also the other show for Twenty
Day Fiance, We're Sophia Alexander and I talk about off
of that herb do you feel me? Uh? Some tweets
(59:33):
that are like this one is from at Joshua Potash,
whose displain name is read Pedagogy of the Oppressed by
Paulo Prairie fantastic. And in this one, it's just a picture.
It's like, he says, God, this is bleak, and it's
a photo of apparently an ad that is on like
an outside of a Burger King, and it's a bunch
(59:53):
of like old senior citizens and it says, who says
you have to retire at Burger King? We welcome your
variance in leadership. If you're energetic, friendly and service oriented,
we have a full or part time position on your
on our team. And they're just like so cool. They
sounds fun I mean like and this like it's funny
(01:00:15):
though too, because this group of elderly people, it looks
like what I like, I remember when I was like
applying to college is what college brosures used to look like, Like,
you'll get the most diverse motherfucker's at this school on
the front of this motherfucking book. And it's like it's
like a Benetton ad but for people that were adult
diapers shout out to them. Look I'm not mad at him,
but oh no, the tweet, I like, God, taken down,
(01:00:37):
so okay this, but the other tweet I like is
from at Underscore Underscore Incandescent, and she tweeted What I
love about gen Z is they'll take an ell and
immediately post a TikTok about it. It's very good for
my love of mess. And damn this tweet that was there,
so I was they linked to a TikTok video that Twitter.
I guess they got the video down, but it was
this girl sitting outside of a like an apartment hallway
(01:01:00):
with her luggage next to her, and she goes like,
my stupid ass went to go visit, like visit this guy,
and he's like and a woman answered the door and
just beat the ship out of me. Now I'm stranged.
Was like, but she was like someone was filming her
and she like had like a track going on and
it was very like making a TikTok out of your
like terrible mistake. And I was like, this is so real,
(01:01:21):
but yeah, credit to that. What I love about gen
Z is they've taken out and immediately posted TikTok about it.
It's so true. There's so many crying TikTok's of people
just being like these are my tears. This is what happened,
and I'm like, for me, someone who my foregut reaction
to people crying in public is to be uncomfortable. It
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helps me softened, you know, my terrible habits around compressing
myself that. You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore.
O'Brien go look at on a recommendation. Please the cat
are so freaking great. Yehaw Meg tweeted Pete Davidson Travis
Parker a machine gun kil you're the manic Pixie dreamgirl
of men the chaos goblin line cook, I thought that
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us song that we think you might enjoys. What song
do we think people might enjoy? Oh? My goodness. So
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this is a remix of a tokey Monster track. Shout
out toke Monster to get into it. If you like
good good music, some beats and electronic other or otherwise.
But it's a remix by an artist named Imanu, I
Am A and You, and it's a remix of the
Tokey Monster track Love That Never. And this is just
one of those tracks where it's pretty layered and very
(01:02:51):
like electronic, but you want to listen to it and
with headphones because, like, as somebody who likes to make music,
I'm just really impressed with you know, the synthesis that's
going on there and just kind of the overall mix
of it. So this is good headphone music, you know
what I mean, not necessarily blasted out of your thin
phone speakers. So this is again iman News remix of
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Tokey Monster's track Love That Never. Alright, well we will
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