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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season seventy three, Episode
two of Daily S eight Guys podcast, where we take
a deep dive into America's share consciousness. It's Tuesday, March twelve,
two thousand nine. Team. My name is Jack O'Brien a K. O'Brien.
Do anything follow But I won't do Jack. That's courtesy
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to Anna Assultis Hannah Sultis. I call her Anna Sometimes
I don't sure to be joined as always by my
co host Mr Miles. Oh my god, this time change
has me really fucked up today. So Mr Miles Gray
A K. Gray Sight savings time. It's the bane of
my existence. Thank you too. At Christie names Donat Christie
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Yamagucci Maine. For that might be the last one. Might
be the last daylight savings time, according to uh Sup
producer next to Manser producer President Fronto. Yes we might
have been. Might he didn't he say something like, oh,
I don't think we need daylight savings? Hey? He the
man is a vision there. He's got some good ideas. Yeah,
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I'm just saying to listen to his idea. We're thrilled
to be joined once again, but one of the very
faces on Mountain Site. More is a hilarious comedian, performer writer.
He is the host of the Culture Kings podcast. With
last week's guster, he is Mr Edgar mop was here
and I have risen from the dead, and I have
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some texts of I have been dead for too long
on this show. Yeah, yeah, well last time you you
ghosted us. I ghost a lot of people. It's not personal.
Sometimes I wake up and I go, the only thing
I want to do today is sitting dirty underwear and
play two K on rookie mode. Oh yeah, you know,
you know what I'm saying. That's what I call raising
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your self esteem video right where I'm so depressed. I
just like I want to score a hundred points with
Jordan's bell. That's so funny you say that, because that's
like literally some ship I would I would do, like
you know what, especially like if arson, like in real life,
my team is not doing well, I load fief up.
I'll go watch me fucking score nine hundred in the
first on Easy Easy, because I'm just that man. Self
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care itself. It's self care because it helps us feel potent. Yeah,
and not there a therapist tell me it's not self care.
I have your license revoked immediately. Well, Uh, usually I
say we're going to get to know you a little
bit better in a moment, but I think we already
know that was it where our picture of Edgar is complete,
But we're still gonna get to know you a little
bit better in a moment. First, a couple of things
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we're talking about. We are going to ask the important
question after Captain Marvel killed it this past weekend at
the box office. We're gonna ask who is the president
in the Marvel universe? Uh? And the answer will surprise
you or it won't. I don't know, it's not very surprising.
We're going to talk about our president uh and the
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controversy that is taking up the majority of his mind
space right now. Whether he called Tim Cook, Tim Apple,
We're gonna get his takes on that. We're gonna talk
about the GOP's new strategy of just being wildly racist
and problematic while calling the Democrats out for exactly you
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accuse them of the thing you're guilty of. And it's tough, man,
It's there's no way to deal with it. We're gonna
talk about the timing of the Mueller report, um, and
how it stacks up to past Special Council investigations, and
we're gonna talk about all sorts of ship today, guys.
But first, Edgar, we like to ask our guests, what
is something from your search history that is revealing about
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who you are? Okay, let's look, I'll just read the
last five. I got medical boots CVS and that's because
Anna just broke her toe, which is my girlfriend significant honestly.
And then I got vis the Showtimes because I just
watched Captain Marvel Odd Non. Yeah, because no, I was
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watching The Doctor last night. What a tweet was like,
you know they need My dream is to be cast
as Odd film. I feel like I was born to
play him. That's why I thought you were watched the
documentary last night. I watched it last night, and so
what is the general vibe of it? I couldn't really
general vibe was that that Nick is innocent. So for
people don't know from the serial podcast, I say, who
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killed Hayman Lee or we don't know whoa who? I mean,
I don't know. I don't know the around the death
of his girlfriend Hamanly. So then there's convicted of in
prison and then so this documentary comes out and is
it compelling. So here's what I'll say. You know, I
watched I've never listened to the serial podcast because too
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many white people were into it, and that's like a
teletell sign of me being like, I'm not into this
unless it's the show Girls, and uh, that was the
one thing that white people jumped on. I was like, yeah,
I'm with y'all on there, and then yeah, and now
you're like Lina Dunham, hold on, that's a weird take
that and Madman, So like, I never listened to it,
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So this was like my first introduction to the whole
case besides sketches and ship like that. Yeah, absolutely, and like,
I don't know, man, it's a pretty compelling story. But
there was a part of me that was like, they're
making this nigga look too sweet. Like I was just
like he looks he sounds so sweet on the phone,
and like, I don't know, man. It was very stressful
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to watch, And what was also stressful to watch about
it was his parents are so much like my parents,
and the ship that he was like the hoops that
he would have to go around where he would like
do calling cards and like all this weird ship. I
would do ship like that too, and my parents were
very against me dating. And then I had this thought
of like, man, what would have happened to me if
one of the I'll be honest white women that I
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dated in high school. You know, it wasn't a lot
of black women around in my high school. There was
one Donnelle Dockery. Uh, what would happen if one of
them died? And then I was like, bro, that would
be my life, that would be my life. It would
be over. And I know this because I remember my
brother dated this white girl in school and she got
a threat like this letter, this threatening letter that called
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her like a bit and talked about how much we
hate how much it hated her, and she was very
hated in our school because she was rich and ship
like that. But like McAllen p D came to our
school and only interrogated my brother three hours. And that's
when my mom pulled us out of that school because
my dad came in. It was just like hot and
it's so mad, but they only interrogated my brothers. Then
they did some investigation and that ship came from Mexico,
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so it definitely wasn't my brother. So hated that she
was internationally hated. My school, to be fair, my high
schools on the border. So every day rich Mexican there,
a bus would go across the border and pick up
rich Mexican kids to come to our school. So it
was kind of second like an international school. It was yeah,
we have forsas, we have forssas that came to our school.
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Shout out to South Texas Christian Academy reaching across the aisle.
So like that's kind of the whole time in the dark,
I couldn't pay attention because I kept feeling like like
you know what I mean, like, especially as a black kid,
and here I probably yelled once or twice and like
you know, like a bad yelling, and then just them
being like just thinking of like how the teachers, because
there's a point where the teachers just like you know,
one time I hugged at None and he didn't really
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hug me back, and I felt this energy, this darkness,
and I was just like no, no, no, no, no,
let's he's a Muslim man and you are a white
woman that just touched him. He's not from a culture
where he's used to that kind of contact. That's probably
what that ship was. And then she ran into that
ship and she told the police about it. Maybe he
was having a bay and then doesn't leg it when
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his fucking teachers hugged him. That's what we're saying, man,
And it's like, I don't know, man, that kind of ship.
Its stressed me. It stressed me out. And I was like, man,
if I was at none, it would be a rap.
It would be a rap. I would be I'll be
serving time right now and I would never get to
say on goo boy and go on a podcast. You
know what I mean? Yeah, Well I went back my
senior year choice because basketball was easier there. Oh so
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very much like two k Jordan Bella drip points. It's like, yeah,
just you know, the rooms are like eight ft two
in that league. I literally dropped fifty one point in
the game at that league because we played against the
school with five kids all under five. Their team was
five kids, so no one could sub out the school
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four people who were under I don't know if the
niggas was short as hell and I was just doing work.
I remember the ref at one point pulled me over
and I was just like, you gotta sub about the game.
This is not right. Yeah, this is not right, and
I said, I don't care, broa on the post, let
me work these yah, so on the miles where you
stand on guilt or uh. It was by the end,
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I was like, there's I can see how it looks
fucked up for him, and I can also see how
like there are other things too that also make me
scratch my head, but I can't. I mean, it's been
sucking five years since that ship came out, so I
was like the height of it. I remember wrapped around
Thanksgiving it that year because they were skipping a week
and I was fucked up. I was like, what the
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funk are you doing? And then the final came out
and it wasn't It wasn't that satisfying. But yeah, I
mean I I again, I don't. I can't remember all
the nuances enough to remember exactly how I remember. His
personality won me over, Like I was like Manister's innocent.
But then once you get through the facts, there's like
a big hole that like can't really be explained. Where
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is j at right? That's my whole thing's either JA
or adding on because like, based on the facts of
the case, it either has to be ja or adda.
They knew where the body was, right, right, right, So
it's that's why that's I'm like, I mean, I guess
the way I saw it was there's room to entertain
the idea that he's innocent. There's also a lot to
suggest that he could be very guilty. Right, So I
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just sort of like, I'm going to leave that as
a push in my mind and not think about how
the one thing that's clear is that the case is
made in a very shady way that isn't fair to him.
It's probably an illustration of a thing that happened to
a lot of much more clearly innocent people. And I
don't know. I'm gonna watch this HBO documentary with the
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rest of you, and I wonder if you make up
my mom, if Hayman Lee's family is really loving all this,
you know what I mean? Because I thought I read
something about like they were not you know, they didn't
cooperate at all with this with Cereal. I don't know
what the story is with this documentary, but um, it's
crazy that was that is My wife's Korean name is
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Hayman Lee, and she was as her Why was making
them phone calls? At that best buy and you using
your mom the manager of the story you work at. Yeah,
listening to leaking part. Yeah, but I also think it's
where that the digger who founder has some shady ship
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too that nobody ever looked into jay no no no,
the dude who found her, Oh yeah, like a streaker
or something like. I was like, yeah, we gotta talk
about this, and it was Hallereru to the to the
defense layer. She like, what were you doing on that day?
It's like, I've never heard of that day. I'm like,
clearly heard you never heard a much never heard of
that day? Yeah, what is something you think is underrated?
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This is gonna be tough. I'm so sorry to say this,
Ja Cole, I think it is underrated. Wo wow, good
for you. That's like a young man's hot take. Is
like one of those he splits like old heads and
new heads. I've been I've been known to be an outstanding,
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outstanding h J Cole hater. I've talked a lot of
shit about him. But one day I was playing two
K and I decided to put on ko D and
it rode baby, and it rode hard, And then there
was a song stuck in my head that I kept doing.
I was like, and then like I kept singing it,
and I was like, what is that from? And then
I sang it on the pod and somebody on Twitter
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hit me up It's like it's ad Ja Cole song.
And I was like, damn, this has infiltrated my brain,
like you know what I'm saying, and middle Child goes hard.
I'm I'm here to say that Jake Hole is underrated.
I don't think he gets that came around that he
deserves absolutely, um wow, the respect he deserves because he
deserved all the disrespect from you. I feel like even
on Twitter, like you had you always have smoke fro
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and I think, you know, I'll willing to admit it.
I just didn't like the way that he talked about
Kanye on false prophets. It really hurt me, you know,
I was writing, I was it was a bit of
push a t on my behalf. He was riding for
my boy. But I just think that the man deserves
a lot more credit. I think what he's doing over
at Dreamville is amazing. I think that, like you know,
he is opening the door for artists to collaborate in
a way that I haven't seen since Kanye West. I
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don't know. I'm like, I'm worried about you. This is,
by the way, this is giving all Jake cole heads
who like just try and commit, who are proselytizing about
Jake Cole and have been for years. I hope that
they can convert the unconverted. Here's what's wild is my Instagram.
I g my, I G like messages are two things.
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It's always people like, hey, I love the pod. It's
very funny, I think, honest, funnier than you. And the
second thing, and the second thing is people just being like, yo,
you're wrong about Jake Cole, Like you're wrong. And that's
the other thing. That people send me links and like
Jake Hoole and something like that, but like they're like
come shorts, fine whatever, you know, like do what you
gotta do, Ja Cole. Yeah, I think it's yeah, but
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it's a thing that I get why, Like I feel
like more I don't know, like me old backpacker, hip
hop head, like I like j Cole, But I also
see when people like they're like he's boring, like this
ship is not fun, Like it's just they're not into
his lyricism at all. I don't know. I'm just I'm
glad people are not hating Jacole. I don't think he
deserves to fucking hate at all. Bestly you'd be like, Okay,
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he's boring to you. I mean, clearly the people who
love him are are hearing something that you're not hearing.
So like I I just don't understand, like the people
who go out of their way to be haters. Yeah,
so well that's just that's the error that it's just like, look,
I mean I'm as one of those people. I'll just
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tell you what it is. I think it's it comes
from feeling left out at times, like you know what
I'm saying because I just say, hey, Kendrick too, and
I because like I just missed it. Like I wasn't
paying attention to that kind of music at the time.
I was very depressed and the only thing I was
listened to is Bonny Vere and James Blake their first albums.
So when Kendra came out, I just missed that whole bow.
I wasn't in the mood for hip hop. And then
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so everyone comes to me like Kendrick's the greatest rapper,
greatest rapper and maybe the funk alone. Bro, But it
was like me feeling left out, was me feeling like, no,
I just don't like him, And it's just like, no,
do you just weren't there for when he was. I don't.
I'm not gonna put in the work right now to
listen everything to get an actual idea. Absolutely, bro, that's
all it is. You know. That's what hate is. Yeah,
it's just like feeling exhausted by the daunting task of
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like trying to figure out how you feel about that. Absolutely.
That's why I like with Trump haaters, you're Trump lovers,
you know what I mean. I know you're you're too
deep right now, but you can come to the light. Yeah,
you know what I mean. Yeah, and Trump haters too,
like your Yeah, come on, guys, slip okay on the boat.
On the boat, y'all wish that y'all find that nigga
first start out the Trans Pacific partnership. That's why I
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vote for him, This sucking Asian guy, no voted for
for him? Off that ship. I was like, bro, piece
the funk out. What is something you think is over roommates?
I think roommates are overrated you. This is this is
you growing up right now, I'm hearing it all. You're like,
you know what, I'm getting a boot for somebody. I
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think Jay Cole is fine artist. You know, I've lived
in some shitty situations, you know what I'm saying. When
I came to l A for the first time, I
lived in Glendale on the floor of a studio apartment
with twins. My floor was nothing but their dirty laundry,
and I slept on top of that ship because I
was poor as fun, you know what I'm saying. Then
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we moved to another situation where we me and the
twins got a two betterom apartment with this other dude
named Robbie, and me and Robbie shared the room and
the twins shared the room. I would hear Robbie have
sex with his girlfriend. I would hear Robbie playing PlayStation
at all times tonight. If Robbie was crying and I
came into the room, he would trap me in with
his feelings and make me talk to him. Robbie sounds
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like a very complex figure. You mean, you're in the
room while he's fucking would room storm. I would be
I'll sleep and he would be like, how much I'm
gonna sipping it in bro and then like they will
try to be have quiet sex, and then I'll be like,
come on, guys, I can hear, y'all, I know what's happening.
And then on top of that, but then this current
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roommate situation that I am in right now, and I
will not name this, nigga, but there's a current roommate
situation I'm in right now where I have my own room,
is the worst situation I've had in the entire time
in l A. Y'all just heard the two other situations
I've just described, and this is the worst one I've
ever had because this dude feels like a king. Oh,
he's not a good roommate. I can't use the living
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room because he always there. I can't use it because
he's always there, taking up taking up space, always there.
If one time I boiled water in his pot, just
boil some water. I don't even do some ship yet.
And this man sent me an essay about how rude
I am. Okay, my friend Io came into town because
you know, she out here doing work. She's out here
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trying to get meanings and ship like that, and I said,
stay at my place. Don't worry about it. We're good
because that's how people in my culture are. Right in
Haitian culture, if first and comes into your house, that
means that you're sleeping on the floor because they're going
to sleep into your bed. So I comes through and
I say, say it at my place, don't worry about it.
This man bannd Io said she can't be there anymore
because she used a couple of my plates. What you
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mean you just broke them? No, she used it, had
the audacity to eat off a place that's right, and
she washed it and cleaned it. He was just upset
that she used them. This person the only child, Yes,
so then you already know how I feel about that
ship already. I have a lot of thoughts about only
children too, That's why I know. But I'm like, I'm
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I'm like, I've become old enough and be like just
sort your own bullshit out there, Like what kind of
what kind of world am I in? Where I'm like, yeah,
so now my cousins are staying there, and look, they're young.
They're young, Okay, I'll give them that. They're young. They're
definitely here on spring break type of ship, right, and
they're being wild. But this nigga has sent me an
essay every day. They're just staying from Saturday night to
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Thursday night. It's such a short, right, It's such a
short and this nigger sent me an essay every day.
Sometimes three s is a day being like my last whim.
I can't do it and I want to break my
phone in half. That's why I was like kind of
walking around and pasting when I first showed up, because
this nigg has been in my ass. Wow, how do
you know him? We were all the same. This was
the bad. This is the bad. This is the bad.
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Who you're talking about. We're on the same Harald team together? Okay, easy, okay,
so same Harold team. And then we got cut, but
we all got cut. But then I stayed on. I
got on a new team and he didn't. And that
was the day I moved in. That was the bad.
That was the start of it, right, and it is
being shouldn't be a bad start. But that sounds like
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the sort of thing that the person you're describing would
not handle very well. I would just respond to all
his essays, and he said, you know, I'm not going
to read through this because all I see this distilled
down to one word, fear. I have nothing to fear.
I'm like, I'm not a threat to your existence. I'm
not a threat to you well being, your prosperity. You're
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actually getting in the way of yourself. My friend should
always respond about the Herald team be like, yo, if
you keep trying, man, what is that? What's a myth?
What's something people think is true? You know, to be
false front of camera? Diversity solves the problem. So, uh,
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this is what I mean by that. Uh. And Zick
kind of tweeted something about this when he was talking
about how uh he had to fight to add people
over at the podcast company that he works at. I
won't name the year wolf, but like, the problem is
is like we see like you know. I'll even give
you an example, Captain Marvel. I watched and I thought
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it was okay. I thought it was fine. It wasn't bad.
It was definitely a good movie, better than some of
the other superhero movies that have come out. But when
I saw that a dude also directed it, like it
was a dude and a woman, I was just like,
that's not right, that's not right. It should have also,
it should have just been a woman, because I think
that we think, oh, it's a female led superhero movie
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and we stopped there, right, But Black Panther would not
be good even if it was just a black dude,
if a white man had directed it. It needed to
be a black man directed. It needs to be a
black woman. Being a production designer needs to be black,
like you know, just needs to be as many black
people behind the scenes because that's where the most important
of decision making is happening. It's not being it's not
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happening with the cast. The cat will show up and
read their lines and it's dope. It's dope to see
people in those roles. But I truly do think that
what's trash is like we have still a lot of
white people behind the scenes that are making these kind
of decisions and things get lost in translation and it
becomes like really hard to do. Like I think about
Atlanta right where Atlanta needed to hire. David Sims was
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a very very amazing writer, but he has to deal
with fx on on the show Atlanta's behalf because the
exactly they're dealing with are all white and they don't
understand anything that this all black writer's room is telling
them if you have that to hire a white man
in between, versus if they were just black exact FX. Yeah,
at least one, at least I get it. I get it, broked,
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I get it. And as someone who has been dealing
with this ship like you know all this time, I'm
I'm seeing it, I'm hearing it. I'm like, you know,
I just wish sometimes that they were more people of
color behind the scenes, you know, casting directors, exacts, producers,
all of that stuff. That would make the life so
much easier because you have these black creatives who are
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doing amazing work, but their support systems are still white.
Yet the infrastructure behind it is still Yeah, for sure
beal Street. I went to the screening at the Arc
Light and I loved it. Loved the movie. I cried,
it was beautiful fucking movie. They bring out the talent,
of course, you know, you've got Stefan James, you got
Key and then these are the next three people, Dave
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Franco and the two white producers from Plan B And
I'm just like, and then they asked this question about
like how like David O. Weller was the moderating He's like,
how important is it to make a movie about black
people that isn't about black struggle. And the person who
answered the question was the fucking white producer. And that
ship hurt me because and the white producer gave a
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terrible answer to the point where Lacey Mosley, you know
who is bossy as fuck, got up and went you
didn't answer the question, she like yelled, which like, you
know I would never do because you know, I respect
my money, but Lacy makes way more money than I
ever will. But UM like that like hurt me because
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I was just like, there was no black producer who
could answer that question. Barry wasn't there. You know what
I'm saying, Like when when green Book one, you saw
everybody get on stage, I'm sorry, Merci only black and
that's what I'm saying, And that's what I'm saying, is
like And then I had this dude. I was going
through my Instagram stories and I remember like, because you know,
I'll be roasting people and I went on and I
remember that this dude tried to explain to me that
Green Book was a better black movie then Beal Street,
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and I was just like, what makes that movie black?
Beside the fact that there's one in the movie but
there's no black people on these teams. There's no black
people on it, like you know. So I love from
the camera diversity, I love it, but I want more
black people behind the scenes. It's about inclusion at every level.
That's why. So, like I want to tell people, you know,
there's some people and but this is where my my
my call to action gets kind of trash. Look, there's
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some of y'all out here that are, you know, trying
to be actors. Y'all trying to be writers. Like y'all
it's not as good as it as some of the
other people, bro, But y'all can still have an impact.
You might be a great producer. Might be a great producer, bro,
we need it. You might be a great cast and director.
Like look, it sounds like I'm joking, but I'm being
for real. There are other ways to be involved in
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this ship if you really care about it. Because that's
what these white people do, They're going to go shift.
I want to be an actor, but I'm not that
great at it. So I'm going I'm gonna be a
producer and I'm gonna get my friends on. We need
to all do the same ship. Also, good money in
producing great money in producing good money. That's why most
actors when they get on the first thing that they
do is make a production company. That's the first thing
that they do. Brad Pitt has produced all your favorite
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black movies from the last five years. It's crazy, but
that's that's my That's my myth is that front of
camera diversity fixes the problem and it ties into the
first story. But before we get to that, we are
going to take a quick break and we're back and
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the first question that we have to ask on this
week is is Trump president in the Marvel universe? I
don't know at number one. So the way this ties
into your myth, Segger, is that Marvel's former CEO was
this dude, Isaac Pearl Mutter, who I've been wondering about
(25:19):
for years because they just hid him away. He was
never lowed like as Marvel was having his come up
and everybody was like, who is the genius behind all
of this? There were all these articles written about this
mysterious figure and he apparently was kind of the main
force behind keeping women out of the like starring roles
(25:43):
in these movies and like wouldn't give black widow a
toy um and they had to basically, once Disney took over,
they basically sidelined him quietly. And we're just like they
specifically said it was because of his outdated opinions on casting, budgeting,
and merchandizing. So they specifically. Man. I love how they
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euphemistically just said he's a racist misogynist, but like, let's
say that ship man, it's so clear, call of spade
to space. Just let people know it's like because he's
racist and a misogynists out he's like your uncle. But
that's what I'm gonna do with my roommate if I
relieve that situation. You know, I just think that the
money was like, you know, it was a little too
tight and all that stuff. I'm not going to just
be like he was an asshole, right right. Hopefully he's
(26:27):
like gang and he learns it for him so oh boy.
So yeah, and this is just so that's just how
this movie got made in the first place. And you
thought it was just all right? Yeah no, um, I
mean look I thought, yeah, I thought it was all right.
I'm trying to like, I don't know. Here's what's crazy
(26:48):
to me is like I'm defending myself to not sound
like a sexist. But also most of the people who
think that the movie was all right are really bad
on my Twitter feed have been women, So like, I
guess for me, it was just like, yeah, this is like,
you know, you're pretty ended Marvel movie. It was fun.
I felt like it was a little totally all over
the place. That's my only complaint. Really, it was better
than any four movie. I'll put it on that. On
(27:10):
Ragnarok to I'll say that right now, Ragnarock it was
better than that. I'll say that, Okay, I just don't
funk with Thor a lot. Like Thor to me seems
like I don't need a superhero movie for him because
he's the superhero that makes the most sense to me. Huh,
he's a god. I got it. You don't need to
explain it to you. You're a guy. Yeah, It's like
I don't need it. I don't want about this nine
(27:31):
inch nails fan from the nineties exactly. I don't know
ship that was a superhero movie. I went into knowing
the least about and it blew my mind. Like so like,
that's why I think pretty good endorsement, I would say.
That's what I'm saying is like I knew the least,
so it was. But like with thora, I'm like, bro, yeah,
he's a guy I got it for that's not I
don't need a movie for him, right, And Chris Hemsworth
(27:53):
doesn't need more roles everything, but he's so lovable. Uh
so put your heart on the way, Jack, I can't apologize.
So it brought in a hundred and fifty three million
dollars basically four d fifty five worldwide. So just proving
that this motherfucker had no idea, like what a hill
(28:15):
to die on? Like nope, I know for effect, these
women led movies will not perform at the box office.
It's like, how's that working out for you, Isaac? I
mean it's it comes out of this simply is that
he's only operating from the world that he understands, and like,
you know, like and like that's what's so trash about it,
where it's it's like a bro, guess what, people your
(28:35):
age and people in your world don't even watch these movies.
How about you step out the way and realize who
does watch these things? Yeah? I think you know a
lot of these people, like these elderly CEO s got
where they're going. Like trusting their instincts, but their success
is based on like how good their ideas were perceived
by a bunch of other white guys their age, like
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during the eighties and nineties. So that even Promuter, he's
like when I came of age in the sixties. Two
things are true. Black people coodn't see good at night
and only horrors use condoms like whoa. But he's not
wrong about these two things, right, Like those are universal
truths always. I can't see well at night, like I can't.
(29:18):
You can't see well at night. I have perfect vision,
yeah I do. But when the lights go off, your
boy can't see ship. Well, most people can't see ship.
I can't. I can't drive at night, man, like car
lights there. I don't know what it is. Maybe I have.
I'm just the first time hearing of this as a stereotype.
(29:38):
No good night vision, bad night. Yeah, that's it's a
deep cuts that was off the lp UM. So in
terms of in terms of the and Promter, by the way,
was a contributor to the Trump campaign and was like
a big Trump supporter. So in terms of people are
(30:02):
starting to wonder who the president is in the Marvel universe.
The only president we've actually seen in a Marvel movie
was Matthew Ellis and Ironman three, and he what we
know about him is he got to be president in
the year two thousand and twelve by running on the
single issue of protecting America after the Battle for New York,
(30:24):
which happened in the original Avengers was his first term,
so that was his first term. He's probably still president. Well,
So the question is where is Obama? And this because
the other thing we've seen is that Captain America was
reading a biography of Obama at one point in the
Marvel universe. So Obama exists. The question is whether he
(30:48):
got elected early in two thousand four or if he
won in two thousand eight but lost in two thousand
twelve to Matthew Ellis. Um. But then there are all
these references to Trump Ship throughout the most recent movies,
like one of the Aliens calls Earth a ship hole
planet at one point in the most recent movie. There's also, uh,
(31:12):
there's talk of letting aliens within our walls. Right, there's
a lot of walls stuff. There's a wall of stuff
in um. That's that's an f plus for me. Man.
Whenever that ship happens in the movie. That's why I
also didn't like Black Klansmen, because I don't like when
the movies directly like talk about our world like that,
like such a blatant comment like on the sort of
parallel commentary, like in Black Plansmen, when they were just like, well,
(31:35):
apparently David Duke thinks that he could run for president,
and then the go a president with KKK like ideals
that would never happen, and then both of them dudes
look at the camel was like, y'all, come on, Spike,
you know what, maybe you don't deserve an oscar break
and fourth wall? Am I right? Audience? Whoa what the anyway?
(31:55):
Back to the film, there's also people wearing I'm with
Her shirts around in the two thousand and sixteen election,
and in Luke Cage, Luke Cage says he'll make Harlem
grade again, prompting another character to call him Luke Trump.
So again not super subtle, but so the Trump's president
in that version, So Trump is president. Basically Trump won
(32:17):
in two thousand sixteen is what people think in the
Marvel univer I think you're gonna be like he wanted
in America here's the truth. Here's my theory, fooling yourself
based off of the evidence that you presented. Jack in
two thousand eight, Barack Obama wins. That's a fact. But
then you put a black man in the office, and
all of a sudden, aliens attack the world. That's gonna
(32:37):
be that black man's fault, no doubt about. Because they're like,
we've had white presidents and aliens have never attacked. The
moment we got a black president, aliens are open. And
that's how President Ellis came because he was like, well,
and I'm not saying anything, but if you noticed before
two eight, no only attacks after that inaugurgation, crazy salient attacks.
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So white power. But then I think that perhaps a
superhero act. I don't think that the public maybe like that.
They probably went that that went too far, and they
said that's government oversight, that's that's big government. So then
that's what opens the door for somebody like Trump to
come in who's very anti established. Got it. So he
was more anti establishment and less like race baiting. I mean,
(33:23):
I think he was still race baiting. I think he
was just like, oh, boy, war maching war machines over there,
making choices on. What do you guys think about that?
We don't like that at all. You don't like that
at all. Yeah, you can easily see Trump's campaign. Do
you see that Captain America got wild after he went
to Africa? What's that all about? That's when he got radicalized?
The jungle fever. Well, let's talk about the version of
(33:45):
the president that exists in this timeline in the It's
funnier than movie. It really is. It's comedy, is basically. Yeah.
At last point, Yeah, last week, I was trying to
figure out if we would talk about that moment where
Trump referred to Tim Cook, the head of Apple, as
Tim Apple. Uh, so you know here for yourself, don't
just this isn't just a thing someone transcribed an interview.
(34:07):
You can hear this man. Just just listen for yourself.
You've really put a big investment in our country. We
appreciate it very much, Tim Apple. Um, Ivanka like just
kind of blinks, right, It's like okay, And yes, everyone
laughed and was like ha ha ha. Because so many
people on the left, they want their confirmation bias to
(34:28):
be stimulated with this idea that Donald Trump's brain is
melting as Yeah, I think what I think what probably
happened is he was saying because he had called him
Tim like three times prior to that, and then he
said Tim Apple, like just conflating the two ideas. Like
I do honestly believe that he did not think his
last name was Apple, and that's the company was just
(34:49):
started by Tim Apple. I gotta walk off this podcast.
I never thought that I would be here the day
when Jack podcast supported Donald Trump. And that's wild to me.
Bro It's it doesn't matter though, because the point is that, like,
it's an easy thing for anyone to ignore. But because
of his very specific type of debilitating pathological narcissism, he
(35:12):
spent the entire weekend just fuming about Yeah, because it's
just a slip. I mean, because he did introduce him
at the top as Tim Cook, so he knew his
name was Tim Cook. But again I don't I know.
His brain is melting, so of course he's gonna say
something like Tim Apple, not thinking anyway. So first at
a fundraiser, Uh, he comes out and he was just like, man,
(35:33):
it's more fake news that I called him Tim Apple.
And he told these donors, he goes, I actually said
Tim Cook Apple really fast, and the cook part was
left out. It was soft. So the way you heard it,
it sounded like Tim Apple, Nick, please just play that
one more time and just listen closely if you can
hear cook Apple Country. We appreciate it very much, Tim Apple.
(35:54):
Now it's literally he calls him. Yeah, there's no no room.
But it's not even my tick up to couple anyway,
Ted Copple, Uh yeah. And then again after that, no
one cared moved on because of serious shit happening, uh
you know, like global warming and all the biomass decreasing
and alarming rate to climbing chaos anyway. So then he
(36:17):
tweeted on Monday he had to double the funk down,
even contradict his first explanation, which was I said Tim
cook Apple and then said at a recent roundtable meeting
of business executives, and long after formally introducing Tim Cookoa Apple,
I quickly referred to Tim plus Apple as Tim slash
Apple as an easy way to save time and words
that fake news was disparagingly all over this it became
(36:39):
yet another bad Trump story. So can we stop when
just talk about your Donald Trump impression. That's a great
Donald Trump Rush and like like when are you gonna
put out a tape press? No, what are your what
are your other two characters that's got to be on
there Australian Australian Filipino guy here, Oh yeah, am I
(37:01):
you're gonna play some basket ball, like you know. The
other one would just be uh. I think it would
be more of like a conceptual thing, you know, like
Will Ferrell got on by like pretending he was a cat.
Everyone said, like that was the thing that really sold.
Lauren Michael, I'm gonna just do something of like confused
stoner really like that should do a lot of work.
(37:22):
Guy who starts crying when the waiter comes for the bill.
That's one of my favorite of your physical anybody ever
comes and sees us live, get miles to do it. Hey, hella,
people did this weekend rats on that grats on that
everybody came from even Utah. Multiple people came from Utah.
They were all married. Shout out to shout out. Not
(37:43):
even Jackson when when was like gang Jackson chose to
spend his twenty first birthday with usam b And also
I'm ashamed the lack of ceremonial blunts and joints that
were offered after the show. Shout out to the one
homegirl with the clip joint appreciated that, but in San
Francisco they blessed the god with the pre rolls. You
(38:04):
couldn't smoke them fast enough. You could, but like you
shouldn't have been able to smoke them fast enough. That's
how much? How many? Um? But anyway, so yeah, he
goes on, he doubled out on that, and he's just
he's so obsessed with Tim Apple. But again, I just
like the idea that he's like an easy way to
save time and words like as if that was like
(38:24):
a life hack and tell people he didn't. Yeah, but
let's adopt him. Bro, let's do it. Let's adopt it.
So in him Jack Stuff, Jack Stuff, Jack Jackhart Media,
j Jack Cracks, Jack Jack Cracked. That's your superhero name? Yeah?
PT crack? What happened to PT crack? Who I don't
even know who you're talking about? Crack was a forgotten
(38:46):
Rockefell artist. Yeah, PT Crack. Yeah, that seems too straightforward.
Thank you too. On the notes, thank you Jack for
not knowing who he was, because Jack was was. P
Crack is a deep. He was on the Blueprint, Yeah,
and he's been on Freeways album. But he's just one
of those people who was featuring saying no p D,
(39:07):
he's pe e d I p e e d I
p D crack his name anyway, that is a real
bad because that's very close to like a shortening of
pedophile like PD. Well, okay, that's where that's what I say,
p D I. Yeah, or like PD like he's police. Okay,
that would be more out interesting. I'm like, oh really,
(39:28):
all right, well performance drugs. Let's let's talk about what
the Republican Party is doing, the part that has access
to their brain and actual, uh strategic thinking, because I
think they have stumbled onto a new way to drive
progressive insane. Yeah, so just being on the open with
(39:49):
their racism, openly racist. But then any slip up from
that they think Democrats will be upset about. They call
that shit out. It's Alex Jones straight up. Yes, we
have a quick roundup of many things. First, there was
a man who was the field director for a Republican
governor of Nebraska, Pete Ricketts campaign, who was it was
(40:11):
a successful reelection campaign, the you know, anti fascist and
Nebraska shout to. You know, they found some of his
discord chats from you know where white nationalists love to
go and talk that wild shit and this he had,
I mean so many wildly racist, anti Semitic things he
was saying on there, from basically saying like, I'd probably
run over like a Black Lives Matter supporter for the lolls.
(40:32):
He's like, but I have a white car, so I
don't know, like he might get stained. Uh. They're also
just something he said he had more empathy for dogs
and illegals. He had just a ton of anti semitic
ship ship to say, like so much so it doesn't
even to get specific, like you know, you know what
it is already. Um. And again there wasn't much I
guess outrage from the right. The governor's office was sort
of like, oh, I had no idea this this person
(40:54):
was like that. But again I'm not saying that the
governor is responsible for knowing what this guy is saying
private least, but if his campaign isn't being ran like that.
But at the same time, another thing to say, Oh,
that's interesting. People with this ideology are attracted to your party, right, Okay,
and we can just leave that there next, Janine Pierrot,
Judge Jennine, the woman who could not get Robert Durst
(41:15):
fucking convicted. She goes on her show and starts going
off about ilhan Omar and basically starts saying, you know,
she wears a he jab jab damn gotta he jab
And I'm wondering if that rhetoric isn't being learned from
the Democrat Party, then where is it coming from the
(41:38):
Koran says in fifty nine Colan thirty, I'm like, yo,
you know that's chapter verse. I don't even know how
to read Bible verse ship and goes on to basically
say like, oh, she probably supports Sharia law. Like actually
out here questioning the real dual loyalty ship we were
talking about, I said, that's always used against especially Muslim
American people. Perfect is that ship right there on camera,
(42:01):
to the point where Fox had to be like, this
is not represent the values of our network. False um
and just some other really watered down ship. And again
another great example of you have people in your own
punditry who are out of your full voice Islamophobia with
rhetoric that is gonna I mean, like, I don't know
what she thinks the viewers of Fox News are gonna
(42:23):
do you already had that the Maga Van guy and
the ship he was up to Caesar sayok, like ingesting
this kind of wild ship, and now you want to
put this woman in a job in the fucking the
spotlight and keep going this woman's anti American, she's a Muslim,
Like people are already, aren't they already like photoshopping her
picture next to the twin towers and putting like saying
(42:43):
like she needs to die, Like this is kind kind
kind of inject this is some wild ship to defend
this nation that people on the right haven't even been to.
You know what I'm saying, Like this is what kind
of gets me wild, is like why do they have
such a hard on for Israel? Besides like the whole
end of the time bullshit that they think it's going
to happen, right, they believe it's their duty in revelations
to protect the state of Israel because they fight for
(43:05):
the state of Israel's was going to trigger the end
of the world, look it up. But like, what's so
trashed to me is like I've had a bunch of
friends who go on birthright and they've all come back
and said that they didn't have a good time. So
I'm a little bit confused. That's the White is caping
so hard for this ship. It's just a very it's
a specific part of establishment politics on the left and
the right, you know what I mean, Like they've just
been it's just sort of been this given of foreign
(43:27):
policy that we're Israel's are like one of our greatest
allies in the region. We don't question anything they do,
and let's just because you know, they help us do
like wild shit in the Middle East, etcetera. But then
I don't I don't get any of the establishments it either,
because like Omar came after Obama, which was like I
was like, that's my lady, right, But like because like
(43:50):
you know, again, why would you cape for dude who
don't got a wet jump shot? You know what I'm saying,
Like I just want to understand why are we caping
so hard for these people? Like they're perfect, Like yeah,
and I think they for onto that hard. If somebody
came after on it with a serious critique, I'd be like,
you know what, I hear your point, Like I got
where you're coming, Like, yeah, you don't do a lot
of shading in your drawings. Um so if there were
(44:12):
something like that, I'm saying if somebody was gonna do that,
I'm not saying that's a criticism artific bro Art. That
thought came out fully. Look, I'm I'm in art Forum.
Check me out. I mean I agree, Like, in addition
to the very specific like uh, end of Days ship,
there's also just you know, if you buy into the
(44:34):
whole Samuel Huntington's like Clash of Civilization ship, you think, well, okay,
it's gonna be the Islamic countries versus you know, the
U S and Israel. Yeah, and like basically there's gonna
be another fucking what are those wars called the Crusades. Yeah,
there's gonna be another Crusade. And like it makes sense
(44:55):
along those lines as well. But could I ride with
this theory? And look, maybe I'm gonna get canceled for
this it maybe I shouldn't say this, but like why
are we acting like that side, the Saint side has
won those wards? Like I think it's like history has
proven that they're kind of like over twenty something, right,
Like we've like you know, crusades win successfully win that ship.
You're saying that Christianity hasn't dominated the earth, like we
(45:17):
haven't won't like Islam has been like nah, I get
the funk out of here, and they have like you
know what I'm saying, like we can't even win in Irack, Like,
so why are we out here being like, yeah, I
want to make sure that the I'm on Israel side
when ship goes down, then ain't win. Yeah, it's just
about it's just about political influence that this this is
and I think, yeah, I'm canceled. I don't care. Well.
(45:37):
The other thing too, is it's also underlines a generational
shift because people our age are more like willing to
be like hold on, like I know you guys are
just sort of like accepted that that's the sort of
a thing we don't talk about, but we're looking at
sort of the situation. They were like, is this we
vibe with this and that's what's happening. You know. It's
just like, uh, you know when people didn't like J Cole,
(45:59):
younger people that I don't folk with J. Cole, I
mean that they're the same. I think that I think
that Donald Trump should pull a KB and this joring
the team that's been beating his ass this whole time.
Uh Russia, Sure, yeah, I mean that he might hop
out of there. Uh let's get onto a Tucker crossing too,
because he's also having a really cool weekend. Yeah, I mean,
(46:22):
so media matters, you know, they they'd be analyzing and
constantly monitoring the things that are said in the right
wing media on Fox, and they pulled up some appearances
from when Tucker Carlson will call into Bubba the Love
Sponges radio show. Yes, I reminded you earlier that he
is the gentleman whose wife had sex with Whole Cogan
(46:43):
on the sex tape and who yes, yeah, that would
be the one where Also, like when you look at
the court documents, this dude was kind of like into
watching Whole Cogan, Like he was the one setting up
the camera, so like he wanted he was getting he
was getting cooked. I mean, you know, it's worse people
to be cooked by, you know what I'm saying. Oh yeah, yeah,
(47:05):
it's just no, it's just funny, Like that's his last
our last memory of Bubba Iron is a guy who
helped bring Coaker down indirectly because like you know, talk
like if you think about like top twenty five people
to get cooked by, like celebrities. I wouldn't be surprised
if Haul Colgan was in your top twenty five. I
would I'll be like, yeah, okay, uh huh, yeah, I
don't know. Just thinking of another bald man with my
wife be heartbreaking. Anyway, So Tucker and Bubba had a
(47:33):
lot of conversation. Let's Tucker will call him weekly and
just issues some of the more problematic takes you'll hear anywhere.
This is only ten years ago. This isn't when he
was like a high school student and this was on
a radio show. This is two six to twoven. I think, yeah,
two down, six to two thousand eleven. Yet, so he
knew this was being broadcast out. He is the same person, Yeah,
(47:56):
it was making these comments. I think we start out
with him commenting on the news story at the time,
Warren Jeff's the polygamist compound leader was being arrested and
tried for child rape. That access to child rape. Yeah,
so listen, and you know Tucker tries to give us
some perspective on this whole issue. No, he's an accessory
(48:19):
to the rape of children. That is a felony, and
a serious one at that. What do you mean an accessory.
He's like got some weird religious called where he thinks
it's okay to you know, marry underage girls. But he
didn't do it. Why wouldn't the guy who actually did it,
who had sex with an underage broke He should be
the one who should doing life the rate the rapist
(48:39):
in this case has made a lifelong commitment to women.
He is a little different. I mean, be honest, he said,
he said the rapist made a lifelong committed to take
care of So first he defends the dude who is
the head of the compound who created the ideology and
like goes like enforces it and makes these young women
(49:00):
men marry older men and basically encouraged the sex and
also himself was guilty of a number of child brides.
But then he suggests that these are people who like
he's defending them for you know, it's marriage. They're making
a pact to like fully refusing to see it from
(49:20):
the perspective of the sixteen year old girl who's being
forced into this marriage, right and for someone who has
takes now who here's like, oh yeah, these pedophiles that
are like endangering the country. It's like, m you know what,
I think we're looking at this the wrong way. I
think that we're not looking at the pure gift that
this is for Tucker Carlson. Uh huh. I don't think
many people know what Tucker Carlson looks like. And I
(49:41):
think that Tucker Carlson has an opportunity now to kill
Tucker Carlson and go live somewhere else free like he has.
This is a like look Tucker, right now, I'm telling
you take this l shut down, fake your suicide, and
go live your life happy, because if you don't do
that right now, you can continue taking else for the
rest of your life. Can see him being like in Cabo,
(50:01):
like doing deep sea fishing, like like trips, super tanned,
with living around sound glass. I'm saying, no, my name
is my name is Rick, and then well, no one's
gonna question that. Yeah, you look like a Rick, I
believe you, But no, it's for him. It's it's a
rap to many people know what he looks like. Come on,
you couldn't draw Tucker Carlson right now if I asked you,
all right, here you go, here's a pen he has
(50:22):
one of the more memorably punchable faces in the history
of the human species. I would I would have to say,
I mean, I think him and Spencer looked the same
to me, Richard Spencer. I can't tell him apart there
you go that it has looked exactly like it's a
jar of racist mayo. Anyway, So then he goes on
(50:45):
this next clip I think is about women. Yeah, and
sort of is my favorite clip. Yeah, how he basically says,
I don't know, this is how Tucker's rules for getting
women stimulated. Yeah, yeah, you know, in my brief experience,
you know, gets women going is arguing with them. Yeah,
I did, brand I never use it. It's true you
(51:06):
debate politics with a woman and just go, you know,
just full blown out there, especially feminism. If you're talking
to a feminist and she's given you a well, you know,
men really need to be more sensitive. And just now,
actually men don't need to be more sensitive. You just
need to be quiet and kind of do what you're
told and lighten up a little bit. They love it.
They love it. I can't get it off anyway. Again,
(51:27):
and this isn't even like that. It's so shocking. But again,
it just shows you how disingenuous he is just in
general of like his selective outrage, because on one side
he loves just coming on and being like, oh, yeah,
you know, you gotta just tell wom shut the funk up,
right anyway, Tucker's rules for successful marriage. And then it's like, oh,
you guys are sexist to Sarah Huckabee and it's like, no, again,
(51:48):
you have seated any position of legitimate argument and or
moral superiority. Yeah, there's just it's it's gone. Uh. And
then a last one just there was so much ship
in these in these clips, but this is another one
is sort of like a mishmash of just different takes
he had towards the end of this larger clip. You
want to fuck Sarah Palin That I'll agree with that.
(52:10):
I feel sorry for unattractive women. I mean, there's something
they did, you know, what's better than hockey weed and whores.
I mean, but you know, first of all, there's no
Canadian woman that you you want to pay to sleep well.
But he who answers my trophy wife is my favorite possession,
is my hero. I don't give a ship. I'm voting
for the guy. Uh, huh. So he also at one point,
(52:31):
and I think we skipped over it, but calls women primitive.
He says, yeah, women are just primitive, which is an
interesting take. Um. And also Nev Campbell is Bay and
she's Canadian. Well, here's what I think, man, and I
think I said it before Tucker listened to your boy.
You can get out of this right now, fake your
(52:52):
own death, fake people. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Bro,
like this. You're not coming back from this. There's no way.
There's no way. You are too white to come back
from Well, but he's on Fox, though, and that's the thing,
and then he tweeted this ship out his responses. Media
Matters caught me saying something naughty on a radio show
more than a decade ago. Rather than express the usual
(53:14):
ritual contrition, how about this. I'm on television every weeknight,
live for an hour. If you want to know what
I think, you can watch. Anyone who disagrees with my
views is welcome to come on and explain why. Well,
then I'll call you a dumb motherfucker and I won't
air that episode. Right, Yeah, exactly exactly. They're free to
come on and have their episode deleted. They get too
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many good points in. But again, you know this is
where the thoughts are on the right. You know what
I'm telling something, Well, don't put your Tucker Carlson impression
on your s tape. Pretty good, it's pretty good, but
I don't think as strong as it is Donald Trump.
You know what I'm saying, like your strongest. Okay, and
I hear Lauren likes wig stuff anyway. Okay, Well you're
(53:57):
a wig to play anybody, even the rock. Come by
the clubhouse. I'll put you up. You can run your
carec that's a herald auditions. Come work. I'll give you
some tips. All right, we're gonna take another quick break.
We'll be right back. And we're back. And just to
(54:23):
kind of close out the story about Republicans cynically doing
the thing that they're awful about at the top of
their lungs and then criticizing the thing when Democrats like
even hint to edit or might even be confused for
doing it, we have a attack ad that a conservative
(54:46):
pack has put out I believe on Mr Bett oh
roor okay, this will be good. Yeah, So it's probably
a nuanced argument. Is sort of like why conservative voters
should not pick for bet Over No, no, no, no, okay.
It takes all the things that they think are ridiculous
criticisms of their own party and points out why Betto
(55:08):
Rourke is guilty of them, because they're like, this is
like poison to those liberals. Okay, yeah, it's long, but
the gist is that he has white privilege. Can I
perform it? Yes? Yes, perform it? Yes? Alright, dad, Nick, like,
you know, just put some music under this. I got you, Okay.
Beto Rourke hates Mexican people. Obama has the best salsa. Yeah,
(55:37):
there's some comparisons to Obama where the people like to
think they're the same. But Betto is conservative. Beto Rourke
puts pineapples in his mashed potatoes. Oh wait no, in
his potato salad. Obama be that nigga who got the good,
good cooking head. Essentially, Yeah, they're like like hoisting Obama
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up on the shoulders. This black man overcame all this
adversity and they're like, look at white privileged bet crashed
the car and got the charges dropped. Wasn't a frat
in college? Barack Obama asked his white teacher to stop
calling his students. Boy, I don't understand what the deal was,
(56:20):
Like the idea of calling Better workout for what they're
saying is his white privilege. I'm not sure how that
is a compelling argument, because I feel like most conservatives
don't even acknowledge the idea of white privilege not a
compelling argument to them. They think that they're just pulling
some Jedi mind trick on the dumbs on the left
to fall for this ship. So they, oh, that's an
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ad for liberals, liberals to try to get them to
not vote for Better. But it's so confusing to me
that like that doesn't even track to me. I'm like,
what the fu? Right? Well, but it's I think they
were hoping that people would just see it and take
it at face value, right, And I realized that it
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was coming from conservatives who were just trying to you know,
but what the tell tell sign is is that betle
Ork isn't running against Barack Obama. That's one. Immediately I'm
just like, Okay, yeah, that's true. But he's running against
people who are kind of just as trashy white privileges him,
including Corey Booker. So like I think, like, like you
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know what I mean, Like it's like hard, It's like
that's what gives it away to me, was like why
is it so against Like why are they measuring him
up against Obama? Yeah, it's not his Yeah. It's interesting
because it also raises the possibility that because this is
going to be the focus, right democratic primary is going
to be the focus in the in the media for
(57:45):
the next exactly, it's going to seem like that You're
not excited. You sound disappointed. I'm not excited, bro, I'm excited.
I'm I want to see these debates go down because
I want to see a scene. The NBA Finals is
gonna be born this year, no matter who makes it's
gonna be born. Like this is the only sport that
we got right right, Yeah, really competitive, a lot of
a lot of great prospects. It's like madness. Anybody could lose,
(58:08):
and you know what I'm saying, But it's going to
be interesting. Like people need to be monitoring not just
Republicans and who they are supporting and trying to funk with,
but also Russia because Russia is probably gonna get involved,
try to back somebody that they think has no shot
or would poorly against Trump, Yeah, yeah, or Tulta gathered
(58:29):
who they actually could just tell what to do. Yeah,
Like okay, assad is good, right, right, I go out
there and say that, um, this is this is gonna
be fire guys. Oh yeah, but it's it's just so
wildly cynical and hope it's not working on people like
I don't know. Well, I'd imagine anyone who understands the
(58:50):
nuance of systemic racism, white privilege, Barack Obama, Beato Rourke
would watch that and be even confused to be like, Okay,
what are those four word you just said? I don't
know what they mean, which was those four words systemic racism?
What's that white privilege? Yeah, Obama. But yeah, it's like
it only works in the reality of how conservatives think
(59:13):
liberals actually think, which is they're just like drone topic
words that get thought activated. So if they use that,
it's like, but that's what is really concerned, Like wait,
y'all don't even get how to use this ship. That's
how white people talk to black people. You know, they'd
be coming up to me and they be like, hey,
you know, Michael Jordan's right, great, Like what I don't
(59:34):
give a shit about that, like, I actually had ten
W thirty motor oil. Yeah, like, oh, anyway, yeah we do.
But hey, down I had his posters as a kid.
So did you'all have that mini hoop that just said
that you could put on your wall that was a
cut out of Michael Jordan's that it wasn't licensed, such
just a Jordan across no bles on his chest. Anyway,
(59:56):
a lot of people had that in the early nineties. Yeah,
it'll be thing. I I'm assuming this is actually good
for Better o' rourke because they're raising some of the
things that somebody was going to raise, but because they
are conservatives doing it, it's probably makes those arguments, yeah,
waste those arguments and also makes people like I definitely
think of Better Rourke now as a stronger candidate because
(01:00:20):
clearly the conservatives are scared of him. Yeah yeah, well
they say what you did in Texas and they're like this,
if this guy was pulling making moves and pulling the
state left in Texas, Like there there's something to be
worried about. I can I bring up something that y'all
have been avoided? Yes? Please? It's not on the list though, Okay,
that's great. Why haven't y'all talked about Lebron James and
(01:00:41):
the Lakers? Well, i've yall had me here, and y'all
have been silent. Miles. I remember Miles came on my
podcast and so that he was definitely going to the playoffs.
I thought, I think you backed up to kiss on
his top four. I thought, no, I'm not. I'm not
saying I'm I'm still right. Look for people who don't know,
the Lakers are an absolute sham bulls, a non existing team. Uh.
(01:01:03):
And I thought, you know, based on how the Lakers played,
and you'd imagine logic would say, at least a flawed
logic I was applying in this case was like the
addition of a Lebron James would help the team. But
I told you he was gonna get injured. Yeah you did?
No, No No, no, you did. That is a remarkable prediction
because he has not been injured for his whole career. Yeah,
and now it looks like the wheels are coming on.
(01:01:26):
But do you think I will make my two hundred dollars?
What happened? Do we bet? Well? I means bet a
hundred dollars that the Lakers are gonna make the fourth seat.
That happened, So we got a hundred dollars. But I
bet him a hundred dollars that the Wolves will end
with a better record. So that's what's happening right now.
Right now, the Wolves are ahead by one game. Damn.
(01:01:47):
I think you could you think, you know? I mean
I could also see some kind of late late season
push from the Lakers that lost b I I know,
but what does he have the Chris Boss disease exactly?
He does? Yeah, wait, the blood cloth thing he does
in the shoulder deep vein thrombosis. So is he, like,
(01:02:07):
is his career in jeopardy? Well, apparently it's only an
eleven percent chance of being a career in right, which
is very low, which sucks with Chris Bosh. But like,
I mean, at this point he was never gonna come
back anyways, but so there is a terrific he could
come back, but I don't know, He's definitely not coming
back this year. Yeah, I think again. It's funny because
you know, I'm I'm from l A. I'm a lifelong
(01:02:28):
Lakers fan, and I've been through terrible, terrible spells being
a Lakers fan. And I was also one of the
people who like when if when Lebron was gonna come,
I wasn't convinced that that would work because we have
a terrible history of super established superstars coming over and
changing the force of the team. Not since Shack Shack
was the last time there was someone who was established
(01:02:50):
a huge star came to the Lakers and like it
worked that even that and then in Flames Koreean worked
pretty well for you guys too, Yeah, Korean, But I
think that's a different you know, it's a different era.
You guys get like the generational like kind of decade
defining free agencies, and then anytime it's not that. Yeah,
I mean, look I got through the fucking Randy Fundier's
(01:03:10):
fucking Bill Berka, Del Harris, you know what I mean,
Kurt Rambis even for a little bit. Uh So I'm
just sort of like, get Lakers just are ship right now. Yeah,
I'm not as like incensed as other people veins. Yeah,
like that's why for me, I'm not like a I'm
not a shitty, like obnoxious Laker fan like yeah, so
like it's not And also I don't like Kobe, so
(01:03:32):
I'm like a rarity. I'm like one of the few
people who wanted to trade him the second I saw
that he was not the same person. A yeah, but anyway,
that's what's so wild about this whole, Like, you know,
this Lakers heat thing, is that all these people who
are down and depressed, they weren't Lakers fan until this
Nika came right. Yeah, And that's what made me so mad,
was like, you know, hearing Jakise Neil tell me this
(01:03:53):
man who's from Chicago that the Lakers are gonna be
a fourth seed when they're starting centers JaVale McGhee and
Jean Rondo's they're starting point guard. He's looking at me
in the fucking eye in the left telling me they're
gonna be a fourth seat. I was right right there
with him being wrong about that. Well, you know what,
because I didn't know he was going to get injured.
I'm going to every podcast I've ever been on and
(01:04:14):
talking about this podcast. It's a victory tour. Alright, podcast.
I told you this think was gonna come here and
be asked uh Edgar the Oracle. It's been wonderful having
you here. Where can people find you? Man? You know what,
I'm not gonna plug my Twitter or my Instagram. I'm
only gonna plug one thing, and one thing alone. Please
watch sad Boy Edgar. It helps me get jobs. I'm
(01:04:38):
being so serious. I recently went to a staffing meeting
and they were just like, yeah, we didn't read your pilot.
It was very long, which is fair. I get it.
They ain't got time and it's only thirty one pages whatever.
But um, they were like, but we watched that wagon
and we loved it. So the hype around it helps
(01:04:59):
me get job them clicking on the video and seeing
they like it. So video dot Com slash dat boy Edgar,
please watch it. It helps your boy eat. And your
boy hasn't been eaten in a while, asked Jack and Miles.
I have lost sixty pounds since I started on this podcast. Terrifying.
I'm very skinny and I need to eat. You know
what I'm saying now? Is it because I only eat
(01:05:19):
at restaurants with a thirty dollar minimum, But I still
need to eat. I don't know restaurants that happened to
me for delivery? Uh yeah, I don't leave my house.
Anna was sending me very passive, aggressive emails like every
every day, being like this is when you're supposed to
be here. Yeah, she only capitalized my man, I hope
(01:05:39):
your phone has charged, Edgar, I'm here right now. And
is there a tweet you've been enjoying? That's that's the thing, Yes,
there is. So this is from Alyssa Sabo or Sabo
she goes by, but I like to you know, ethnasize
everyone's name, So Alyssa Sabo at Elyssa Underscore Sabo. And
she said at a bar in Arizona and a guy
came up to hit on me and said he liked
(01:06:01):
my look because I was so regular looking. And if
you were to see me at a grocery store, he'd
be like, yeah, this makes sense. Ha ha. Killing it
ship is so fucking funny to me, man, she has
really sad tweets like this all the time. I love
that sad ship, But that tweet the story. She's a
very very funny person. She's probably one of the funniest.
(01:06:23):
I mean, like I put like her and Lacey Mosley
and on and Heather all up there are Jessica Geeler too,
all up there is my favorite character actors like. And
she is just so fucking funny. So follow her on Twitter.
It's a lot of her like this other one was
just like my therapist canceled on me this week because
she's sick. But I kind of have a feeling she's
just sick of my bs ha hat gosh. I need her.
(01:06:44):
This ship kills me, so go and follow her because
her ships are very fucking funny. Do it? Miles? Where
can people find? You? Find me on Twitter and Instagram
at Miles of Gray. Uh, let's just see. I would
just like to one tweet or a couple of tweets
wanted from caper Lance. You just put thinking about title.
I don't know why that maybe had titled you guys
(01:07:07):
have to watch the other two. Man caper Land is
so fucking funny in that and the other two. I
mean they had this funny specific in it when like
there's just like these instagays that Drew Tarver's characters hanging
out with and just's keeping like, you're so funny, You're
so funny, You're so funny, and at one point ago
you're so funny, You're like in Amy Schumer and ship
killed me. It is so good. I just wonder with
(01:07:30):
Joel Kim Booster, it was just like a killy and
they both right on that show man This y'all are
killing it, they really are. And then another one's from
you know, frequent guests Blake Wexler, who's a die hard
Philadelphia sports fan and seventy sixers fan. Joseph gil tweeted
like a photo side by side photo of him and said,
pretty incredible. How t J McConnell just looks like if
Blake Wexler got more calcium as a child. Blake said, Joe,
(01:07:53):
I know this is meant to be a backhanded compliment,
but to me, it's open mouthed flattery. And he kind
of uh when when you make that compared to say
someone didn't have enough calcium, and then I look at Blake.
It made me a little bit set. But you know,
check them out. You can find me on Twitter, Jack
UNDERSCOREL Brian a couple of tweets I've been enjoying. Darcy Cardon.
Janet from the Good Place tweeted, Hi, how are you?
(01:08:14):
Why don't airplanes have cup holders? Uh? Which that's such
a great point. It's a fucking great point that I
need to know that indentation on the fucking trade is
not suitable. No, it is not holding anybody ever had
someone's drinks spill on you on a planet. It's only
happened to everybody that as a matter of facts, as
(01:08:35):
a yeah, yeah, it's a it's a name, especially with
kids like what Charlene Duguzman tweeted, paint has passed down
in the family until someone feels it. Have a fun weekend, uh,
and Molly mcnerry tweeted every time I want to read
a book. Netflix releases a new show which I completely
(01:08:55):
identify with. You can find me on Twitter, Jack underscorel Brian.
You can find us on Twitter at daily zeitgeis for
at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook
fan page and a website Daily's like ice dot com
where we post our episodes. Are you watch that? As sorry?
Are you gonna watch that? That Ben Affleck Netflix movie? No?
Come on, man, I don't even know what it is.
(01:09:16):
It's like him and a bunch of dudes going to
Columbia to do a heist. Oh ship, come on, all right?
Thank you? Come? Is it directed by him? I don't
know who directly sounds like it's like Ben Affleck. Know
I'm saying I'll watch it if he's like he's a
version of himself. But I'm gonna tell you the trave
when we wrapped. Okay, Oscar Isaac has a really good
(01:09:38):
taste in scripts, so maybe I will check it out
like Oscar. Yeah. Anyway. Also, a tweet from at forty tweeted,
anyone remember McDonald's orange drank at school functions? I hadn't
thought about that so long. Do you remember that ship
that mcdonn Never had McDonald's at my school. No, No,
it wasn't like they just like provided orange for some reason.
It's just in a big yellow pool with the McDonald's
(01:09:59):
label on it. Maybe maybe that was only like East Coast.
I went to Canadian Lutheran school. We only yeah, I
actually he didn't even tweet you know. That's very fun. Yeah,
and Miles, what song are we can? Right? Yeah? I
just want to you know, if you haven't heard Salange
(01:10:21):
a new album. When I get home, listen to it.
It's really good. I really enjoy it and actually got
one of the tracks on there I like not you
know it's it's it's like more one of the shorter
tracks called bins b I n Z I really like
and you should too, and just check the album because
I mean, the shadow from which she has to escape
from is one that consumes a. Yes, she's still manages
(01:10:42):
to make her own spots. Yeah yeah, yeah, alright, we're
gonna write out on that. We will be back tomorrow
because it is a daily podcast and we will talk
to you guys. Then. I just want to like this
and the plus I just nea in a roasts when
(01:11:02):
it window sent it. We got a big spin and
big spin and I'm gonna get back, come up, give
me a minute. I'm gonna fil the Samantha's like even
in its young Summy, Get Summer, give me a minute,
sundown and shine loa, get down one line on line
and no see me, no flex pet guind does never
(01:11:24):
show up all see time