It’s As Bad As You Thought 05.04.22

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to thirty five,
episode three of Dirt Days Like Guys Day, production of
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a deep dive into America's share consciousness. And it's Wednesday,
May fourth. I don't know what what what? Like today's four? Jack?

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Cracked podcast, creating the Bison emoji, and from being a
four time Jeopardy champion. It's Alex motherfucking what's up. Its
great to be back. Thank you guys man. Yeah, it
was great to have you. Good to see you. You know,
we were telling our new producers back in Tricia before

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we started rolling, just like you know, you that like
to avoid eye contact, you know, maybe turn off their
zoom cameras, because yeah, Donnie Rickles coming through and he uh,
he comes in hot and takes no prisoners. And then
you came in. We were like, it's like, it's the

(02:05):
nicest person I've ever met. When your camera turned on
in the zoom cute you're you were already in the
ear to ear grin and I was like, damn it
a mystery, blew it man, what a big you it. Also,
I was looking at my browser at just something funny,
and I didn't know that when the zoom turned on,
it would pop in front of my browser like you're

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just suddenly it's like diving off a high dive or something.
You're just suddenly in the meeting. It's great. Yeah yeah,
And I started roasting people and you know, yeah, yeah
they're crying now, but like, you know, we warned them
and I feel like it was good, good for everyone.
How's how's north cac I've moved him in Brooklyn? Now Brooklyn,

(02:48):
New York? Okay, New Yorkers in the building. Now, okay,
how long you been in New York? Now, I'm surprised
you couldn't tell from my very Brooklyn aspect I had.
But yeah, that here like seven months or so. Okay, Yeah,
we went and saw cherry blossoms and the botanic cart
in this weekend. That's how it's goings o. So y'all
living on the fucking edge. It sounds like, yes, I've

(03:13):
got blossoms. He uh? Is that people have got blossoms
over here? Yeah? Is that? Is that? How you like?
There was just a Brooklyn guy there with cherry blossoms
who was waiting over Yeah, or is a guy who
manages a group of blossom impersonators alright? Also also a

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blossom thing. So everybody denim bucket hats with the front
flipped up like that? What do you want? Kind of timeless?
Her style was kind of timeless, really baggy. Yeah. I
feel like it's always like on the verge of coming back,
and no matter when you watch it, even if it's
at a point where it's not back, it's she still

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pulls it off. And I guarantee you you go to
like a semi hit party and layer in New York,
there will be one person dressed like Blossom. Yeah, that's
just that's just part of the texture of of it.
Like one of these parties is like, oh there's there. Okay,
y'all lean into the nineties thing, but doing it authentically
we see. Yeah, yeah, totally all the parties. I go to, Ye,

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that's true. The party, um the other Wednesday, and yeah,
the people dressed. I noticed how people dressed and it
was like that Jack these parties. I go to the
guy everything Blossom impersonators six her best friend six six

(04:37):
six six impersonators. Okay, this is this place has everything, uh,
and a guy who kind of looks like Stefan or Kell.
Also he's I was saying, you were doing a good
Stefan impression. There isn't that the Bill Hitter character. Yeah,
I know that's ye picked it up. Anyways, Alex, we're

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gonna get to know you a little bit better in
a moment. First, we're gonna tell our listeners a couple
of the things we're talking about yeah, I mean this
happened two nights ago. But the leaked road decision, we're
gonna just be processing that. We are recording that's the
day after it was leaked, and still processing it. I

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don't know, it's it feels like it's, you know, as
bad as we thought. I'm pretty piste off. And so
we're gonna talk about that. We'll talk about some mutual
aid resources, and we'll ask the important question do Oscar
winners really live longer than losers? Not just loser, but
people who don't win a Uscar, which basically I think

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we can admit that, like all of us who have
not won an Oscar are fucking losers just period. Right.
I want a useless gold statue. That's that doesn't mean
anything anymore. Yeah, Like we all have an empty space
on a shelf. That's that times. Yeah, and we just
look at it sadly. Have a question for you know,

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for you guys, did you ever in your mind think
one day I might get an Oscar? I don't know,
I might, I might be. I might funk around and
be evolved with something that gets me an Oscar, still
still leaving the door open miles. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
think everyone needs to have that just in their in
their heart. You know, I did. I did a high
school theater, and I feel like that was just an
immediate go to for adults talking to me, and it

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probably happens to everyone whoever does high school theater. It's like, oh,
you gotta part in one play one time. Next stop
the oscars, and like they don't don't do that, adults,
you don't get, like that's not really how it works.
The next is probably fourteen years of soul crushing community
black box theater. That's how That's what makes you stronger
and ready for the big stage. But yeah, the I

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do I feel I don't know. I guess we'll talk
about it. But I just feel like the whole mentality
around Oscars being like, well, that's the whole to, that's
the thing. You could either win an oscar or become president.
Those are like the main things in America. It's probably unhealthy,
especially given it's it's go to Harvard, get an oscar,

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or be the president. Yeah, I feel like those are
the three things. Like, no matter you hear some version
of that all three Obama oh ship, you know what
I'm saying? Has he want an Oscar. I feel like,
who gives a ship gives I've moved, I'm I'm in
a different I'm in a different wave left me. But

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you know, trust in progress. I do like the idea
of any American president trying to play a different character
in a movie. It's just so distracting right right, Like
they're they're so burned into your heads they can't no
matter how. A reverse Reagan where somebody like wins the
presidency and then it's like, I actually I'm launching a
acting career, like what where I'll being beaten? Movie is

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opposite a chimp? And then you want to be one
of the most powerful people on the planet to launch
a fucking to leverage a paramount plus streaming show. Yes,
I mean yeah yeah. Like if if you offer that
to Trump right now, I bet he would take it.
Like if you were just like, actually, we think you
might be one of our great actors and entertainers. You

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don't have to put up with this presidency ship anymore,
you don't have to pretend to like the people that
voted for you. I think he would he would be
in swap him out in that fucking Stallone thing about
the you know, the mobster who's got to rebuild an empire,
like this is perfect for you man. Yeah, this is
one of these really cool productions. We have these new
cameras that are actually built into a lot of people's

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classes and eyeballs so that acting can be really natural.
So don't please, don't, you know, be dissuaded by the
lack of production infrastructure. This is a TV show. Now
go say your lines in this dark room. I think
it's a pretty interesting outside of the box solution to
the fact that he could probably has over fifty chance
of being the next president again is just launch a

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movie career and put him in movies that are all
like scheduled to come out that year. So he's like,
I just have a really busy promotion campaign and then
he doesn't run, and then we all just don't go
see his movies, and Hollywood has done something good for
once perfect Perfect. Yeah, to talk about everything to them,

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I think we're good. Everything intersects with that idea, so
we don't need to talk about anything. If we do that,
then everything else is solved. Okay, al right, before we
get to any of that ship, Alex, we do like
to ask our guess, what is something from your search history.
So I and I cheated a little bit because by
first several are all related to this Supreme Court case

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and and abortion everything else. But like the first one
before that is the name fairly set because I was like,
I learned about this to make my pack guts. But
it's the only cat that has ever been sent to space.
It was sent by the French space program in nineteen
sixty three. They sent a cat into space for like
fifteen minutes, and her name was Felicet. France is true

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to the brand. They are like, what can we do?
What can we do with this? When did they sunder
nineteen sixty three day? And it was it was when
like it was right after the Russians sent a dog
in the US was sending primates and so we were
still figuring out like how mammals react to space, and
so the French sent rats and then they sent a cat.

(10:34):
M rats then cats, okay, and did they did the cat?
Did we find out? How how it did? Did it
come back? Was it a celebrity? It's like it's good
and bad. It's the cat came back successfully. And then
they did like surgery on the cat to study and
then the cat died of the surgery. Oh sorry, sorry,

(10:58):
that's a bummer, but it's fun that like a cute
tuxedo cat went to space. Hey, early history is all
about just being like, I don't know, open it up
and see what's inside. Yeah, all right, I guess that's
the information you had back then, so you is part
of adding to that data set. They kept ashing inside
the cat because the surgeons were smoking the whole time, presumably,

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and that that didn't help with the scientific process. Yeah,
it died of an infection caused by stray. Bret felt
that fell into the operating wound. Right. A team of
surgeons and one accordion player worked round the clock to
try to save it around the clock. What is something
you think is overrated? I it's I know this has

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come up, but the idea that COVID is over it's overrated.
I got it. I got it a little over a
month ago, and it was not fun and a lot
a lot of times I would tell people close to
me like, hey, I have COVID and they would be
like me too, Like it's just going on. You don't
say shit, it's so so just everybody be careful, I know,

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that's like dark news. But be careful, you know, it's not.
I think it's I think it's important that people don't
can I acknowledge that there it very much still is
the possibility of getting infected with COVID that that has
not changed at all. It's are The only thing is
like the sort of politician and like media informed attitudes
that we're seeing. That's like, yeah, man, look now that

(12:26):
everything's over, like for fucking who, like her majesty had
it a couple of weeks ago. I know so many
people too that I'm like, I'm I'm not like, my
anecdotal data sets of knowing with infections are up or
down or not changing. So I think that's for sure,
it's pretty spot on. Yeah, but it's not on the
news anymore. It's not Yeah, it's just on social media

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we find out, I think because to really this is
the thing to talk about it, you have to acknowledge
the humanity of the pandemic. And if you do that,
then you're in everly going to start talking about inequality
again and wages and who was able to whether not
working or lockdowns happening, or who works in a place

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where the fucking rules are so lax that it's just
a you know, an infection vector from hell. They and
they don't want to do that because look what happened,
like it it We we got the thing where people
were leaving Jones, like all the wages are going up
and that's all we've got inflation. We're like, no, asshole,
we're getting your breedy, greedy faced version of what you

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think is going on. Mm hmm. Yeah. Doesn't the fact
that the corporations that drove a lot of the inflation
head record profits that the nothing nothing to see there,
just it was natural invisible handship. And don't pay attention
to the invisible hand because it's invisible. You can't see it,

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and it works perfectly every time. So just trust it. Yeah,
and I mean, think of how much we've we've buy again,
when you don't have a pandemic, Now, nobody's a hero, right.
That's the other thing too. You don't have to acknowledge
anyone's sacrifice if there's not a pandemic. So it's very
convenient to completely just take all that ship out of

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the discourse because that's not what we're talking about anymore.
We're talking about that it's over and if people get it,
it's like, well, you know, you should have wore a
mask or whatever. Everyone's gonna get it, Like who cares?
And like, yeah, maybe we're still learning about long COVID.
I don't know. But also we don't have money for
the pandemic response. Like all of it looks not great. Still,
And as I mentioned yesterday, I do bribe the doctors

(14:35):
when I take a COVID tests to just make sure
that it comes back negative. So I still haven't had it.
But you know, like that's that's just what It's just
my strategy. Yeah, I remember that. Yeah, when you show it,
you're like, yeah, I just got my COVID tests and
I was like, what is this? It says negative? Plus

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I was like, yeah, that's how negative. I was negative.
Newstry Service. We've never seen some ship like this. I'm like, Jack,
I don't know how this helps here. I'm extra negative.
All right, what is something you think is underrated? Yeah?

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This this one is just cool. Willie Nelson. Willie Nelson
is doing great. Yeah, he turned eighty nine last week
and he put out a new album on his birthday
and it's great. It's called a Beautiful Life. It's very
good and he's just generally always been on the right
side of most things. As far as I know. He's great,
really into it. He is one of the like musicians

(15:37):
that my parents listened to all the time that still
holds up for me. And there, you know, there's a
lot that probably the fact that my parents listened to
them all the time make me associate with like being
nerds like Billy Joel. Maybe that's not fair. And you know,
Anita Baker at the time, I did not give him
a fair shake because I was just like, come on,

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and this is so slow. Put on Axl Rose, he
will be cool forever, And that wasn't the case. But
Willie Nelson, I always liked his voice even back then,
and he stays stays cool. What a what a voice?
Guy stays cool? Huh. And he's to joint in the
White House. He did Yeah with Jimmy Carter's son. It's great.

(16:21):
So that's fun. I and I missed country music completely
when I was a kid. Like I've only started getting
into it in the last couple of years, so I
have no associations with it. Really, I'm just like fresh
and it feels great. He's very cool. He has like
the way he sings. He'll do interesting phrasing, kind of
like Sinatra. If that helps people on board. I don't know.
He's great, Yeah, yeah, really good. I used to as

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a kid, I used to think him and George Carlmon
were the same person. Oh that's Carl yeah, because I
was like, these are white guys with long hair, yeah,
and like white beards and like yeah, And I was again,
this was me not even hearing a single. Like my
visual thing was like, oh he's wearing a headman today.
Oh he's not right. And then I'm like, as I

(17:03):
got older, I'm like, they are not saper so bad
fuck at all. But I remember that very early on.
I was confused when I saw the two with them. Yeah,
they have kind of the same head shape, like kind
of a square head to me, and the same facial hair.
And I think it's just a little bit of gleaming
long hair in the back. That was enough to say
as a four year old be like, and that is
the same person. And I know everything about popular culture. Yeah,

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I mean Willie Nelson's hair I always associate with like
being in the pigtail braids. The fact that he was
able to pull that off and still just be a
complete icon. Is is pretty cool. He got Texas on
board with that, the state of Texas, you know fast,

(17:46):
but they did for him. Yeah, but like I guess
we're doing this now. Yeah, like with yeah reminds of
like this is a very specific reference. But Jack Peterson
on the Braves was wearing like pearls like when he
played baseball, and I was like, look at all these
brave spans and men coming out with their pearls, and
I'm like, okay, the power of sports. It's okay because

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he does it. Yeah, him straight, him hit home run.
I'm now where pearl also, man, he should he should
push it like this year when he's in the postseason,
he should just like have more accessories, just keep accessorizing
until the breaking point right to like every man in

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George is weighed down by an insurmountable amount of jewelry.
I've been thinking a lot about the Carter White House.
I think we talked about it a little bit on
yesterday's episode, which I have mostly blacked out, but the um,
we can't go back, we can't go back. The like

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the fact that The New York Times is addressing, you know,
centrist democrat in power as being like, Wow, there's just
a mood issue that nobody can white pinpoint. And the
fact that that was followed by like just twelve years
of like hardcore republicanism in the mainstream worries me a

(19:10):
little bit that we're like back back at that point
where they're like, I don't know, we're we're out of
answers here, folks. I guess we turned it over to them.
Hot potato. There you go, fun that up there, take it.
And and I feel like that whole thing is sort
of like the response to inflation going up or something else,

(19:31):
like people are like, Oh, I guess this is just
how people feel. And I don't know, look at the context, man,
like he's exclusively been president during a global pandemic like
that will impact people's mood a little. That's not his
fault necessarily, Yeah, And I think the other part just
sort of like what could it be. Do we we
point at the little breadcrumbs that fell out of his

(19:52):
jacket pocket that were legislative winds and hope that's enough,
or do we dangle a bunch of exist untual threats
in front of them to get them to fucking vote
and it looks like the ladder right now. Yeah, so well,
I guess what we'll be talking about that in a moment.
So let's take a break, gird yourself, and we'll be

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right back. And we're back. And on Monday night, Two
Nights Go, Politico published a leaked road decision that suggests

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that the Supreme Court is about to overturn Roe v.
Wade and the opinion it really lays the foundation for
like a white Christian theocracy where like abortion, contraception, con
sexual sex acts are all able to be policed at

(20:57):
a national level and like banned at a national level.
And yeah, it's kind of it's as bad as we thought.
I think, is kind of and and it's infuriating that
we're at this place and people are losing the right
to have autonomy over their own own body. Yeah, I mean,

(21:20):
reading like just parts of that opinion from Alito, like
he's referencing this guy, Sir Matthew Hale, that a lot
of people have pointed out is an English jurist from
the seventeenth century whose fucking musings like laid the foundation
for people to normalize things like marital rape, and like
he was regularly like, oh, these people, these women are

(21:42):
witches and need to be burned. He's taking that guy's
ideology and sort of using that too underline or bolster
his you know, his argument in terms of overturning row.
And yeah, it's true all of this. It's not just
abortion that's at stake. This is this like, there are

(22:02):
many things they've articulated that they want to go after.
And of course this all goes hand in hand with
your privacy because now again the government will be if
you know, if at the momentum it's going if we're
cutting off contraception, they're knowing when you're having sex and
how you're having sex with who you're having sex. That's
now part of what the government needs to look out

(22:23):
for and respond to. And it's it's so fucking frightening
to look at things we thought were rights and in
the you know, in the middle of the night, a
political leak and then they're saying, oh, hey, we're in
the dark ages again, right the Yeah, And like my
head spends in so many ways because I'm like, what's

(22:45):
the respect. I think that's the thing that I'm like
really bracing myself for. It is like, what is the
terrible completely unaware, can't read the room. Response going to
be from Democrats like in terms of what they think
how they either they're either going to leverage this as
a way to motivate people to vote without actually looking
at the violence that is in front of people and

(23:08):
say like, this is why you gotta We're already hearing
that this is why you gotta vote. I think that's
first statement. This is this is on the voters to
elect more then what the funk do y'all do? Right?
What do y'all do if this if the if if
the fucking reproductive rights are stripped away, and you say, yeah,

(23:29):
y'all got to do something about that, then what the
why do we need you? Then this goes back to
the fact that this the government is completely incapable of
protecting people, absolutely incapable and unwilling. That's how this system
is built. It's not built to protect anybody except for
the wealthiest people. And so I don't know how many

(23:50):
times we have to go through this example of like, oh, yeah, man,
you got the right to vote. Man, I don't know
fun it. Maybe you don't. Hey man, we need to
do something about you know, police violence, nam not Oh
we gotta do something about all these transphobic bills. No,
I don't know, man, I figure it out on your own.
So we're left in a position like your house is
on fire, you call the fucking firefighters, and then when

(24:12):
they show up, they're like, yeah, man, we got some
ship in the truck. You can handle that, man, because
that's not what we do. Huh. That's the feeling I
think a lot of people have right now. Absolutely yeah.
Like I see them say it's tough, like be sure
to vote, and I'm like, okay, Like what is do
you do? You have a job you do because like,
if this is my job, can you edit my podcast

(24:34):
and pick up my groceries and like sweep and like
the things I have to do here, Like please lean
on Joe Mansion for you if you need that, because
I don't know what the funk y'all are doing and
be like hey Joe, no you're not feeling it all right, Okay,
we'll see you later. Like where's the leadership where that's
where you hear all Like with all these other presidents,
you hear about these monumental moments and all the fucking

(24:55):
ship that had to happen behind the scenes. To like
get some semblance civil rights or whatever. I feel like
none of that ship is happening. The fact that Biden
felt comfortable coming out and saying we need to vote
like an elect officials like it is so like, I
I can't believe that that is not a point that
people are making. More to the point that he feels

(25:17):
like ashamed to say some ship like that, because the
really insidious thing is that this is their model, is
having the Republicans do ship that like threatens our ability
to live in a free society and then you scare
people into voting. Because if their model was to actually
look out for the people as opposed to, you know,

(25:40):
the corporate interests that kind of get them elected, they
would be doing more proactive things. But it's like it
makes sense from a purely like cynical and power dynamics
perspective for them to sit back, let them do some
ship that like is fun to mentally like turning America

(26:01):
into an authoritarian like society and then just be the
only alternative like that that seems to be their model
at this point is like being the other guy while
the country yo yo is back and forth between a
straight up authoritarian hate group that comes to power over

(26:22):
half the time, and then the ineffectual Democrats who can
whose continued existence is based on like selling itself as
the other guys without doing anything. It's just like we
have to the psychotically bat alternative and the bat alternative
and like that's the battle alternative obviously benefits from that.

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And like how are we in a position where they
feel like what he said in his statement is basically
so you better vote like that so our systems, yea,
our system, our plan is working. This is our strategy
to scare you into voting for us, even though we

(27:07):
don't do ship. We just don't put your safety and
freedom at risk. Yeah, and the and and also that
Politico stuff, like they have the whole first draft or
whatever drafted is of what Alito wrote in you know
where every race these things, and there was really shocking
stuff in it if you look at it, like I

(27:28):
hope Democrats really go after everything in it. Like at
one point he compares he uses language that compares the
road decision to plus e versus Ferguson that upheld segregation,
and he compares it to Kamatsu that upheld in turning
Japanese Americans in World War Two, like like there's no
they went all the way, there's no like thing to

(27:49):
wait for that they're going to do next. That's awful
other than tearing down more things like Democrats can go ahead,
they have the green light to fight, like go for it.
But they're and they're not you. That's the funked up
part because we've seen every we've seen them, yet we've
seen I mean, this is the thing I'm wondering when
the plurality of American people actually understand that these people

(28:11):
are not going to do ship. They're going to fuck in.
You're gonna get a fucking text in like six hours
with Nancy Pelosi's face on it being like I need
four teen bucks. Where the funk you at abortion rights
are at risk? Where fuck you come out your fucking
pockets and do something. You're not doing shit. All you
do is posture, and then you keep presenting this party

(28:32):
merely as a pause button on fascism. You're not you're
not rewinding ship, you're not taking us forward. You just
hit pause. That's all you fucking do. Republicans, they're like
fashions of fascists of let's fucking go autocracy. We on this.
Then the Democrats coming like, don't you want to hit
pause on this? We're here and we're here to hit
pause on it. Don't expect us to right the wrongs

(28:55):
or any fucking anything to do with that, because at
the end of the day, they're still there a branch
off the same fucking tree as Republicans. They just grow
on the left side of the fucking tree, and that
tree drinks water directly from corporations and moneyed interests. Who
are the people that these these politicians are beholding too.
They're not beholden to the voters. If they were, when
we're out there in the streets being like, man, funck this,

(29:18):
they would be like, oh ship, these these people. These
people vote me in or out rather than no, there's
actually these very wealthy people who vote me in or
out based on the number of put fucking at media
advis they do the fucking oppo research they might do
on me, or maybe on a someone who's trying to
primary me or someone who's an opponent. There's so many

(29:40):
other dynamics there that it's these people don't go into
fucking service thinking how am I going to help my constituents?
Now there are people who are you know a little
bit more have their ship together, but that's they're in
such a minority that we're all, we're only going to
see these people capitulate over and over to the like
not the people. And I don't know how many times
have to keep seeing that to say, if it's not them,

(30:02):
then who is it going to be? Because I think
it's good. I think it's us, because it's damn sure
not them that's helping us out right, Yeah, I mean
and Jack have been the article about this. They were like,
even if a massive popular uprising on this issue allows
Democrats to hold onto the Senate unless they abolish the
filibuster rule, a law protecting abortion access has no chance.

(30:24):
What can they promise us tomorrow that they can't deliver today?
What that's what can they What are they dangling they're
in power, like well, yeah, we're we're gonna you know,
so somehow mansion is gonna be cool and there's gonna
be like ten ten more votes. Like it's it's not

(30:44):
a feasible solution at this point. And with these like
mainly mainstream Democrats, because there are people like Justice Democrats
and other ones who are doing well, but with the
main street dumb mainstream Democrats mainly saying, hey, make sure
to vote, like we Obama ran non codifying row as
law and we elected him twice, and Biden in the
primary study would codify rows law, and we elected him

(31:07):
by seven million votes. Like they're pointing to the one
thing that is kind of going okay, like the voting
that humans are doing against that being repressed, and in
spite of other things, is like one of the few
parts that we're doing a good job of. Like it's
it's very weird to be like that's the solution when
it's all the other structural things that need fixing. I mean,

(31:29):
I and I think a lot of people who begrudgling
you vote for Democrats really are trying to We're at
a crossroads, like we can't keep getting played like this
because people die all the time because of them, with
their fucking duplicity, and this is a it's it. I'm
not sure what it's going to take, but it's hard

(31:52):
to believe that the Democrats could deliver a thing. I
know they all got together outside the steps of the
capital and their leaf. Oh you this is Chuck Schumers
like you you awoke in the giant the fun's been
doing with what? Because kristin cinem already said she's she
wants to respect the filibuster. So there there that goes,

(32:12):
So now what and stop dangling bullshit in front of people,
because this is I think this is the really I
It's like every crisis we have ship gets realer for
different segments of America. And this is a very broad one.
Now some people will know what fucking time it is.
Other people can continue to live in to live in
their comfort, because let's be real, this is really gonna

(32:32):
affect poor, poor people, especially poor women of color. And
if this was anything about being pro life or whatever,
you'd actually talk about the mortality of people giving birth
and how you should what happens there that people are
more likely to die in childbirth than someone who's getting
an abortion, like if you're just putting it side by
side and other demographic factors weren't. But again, because that's

(32:56):
not what this is about. It's just all about creating
the most amount of cruelty to bring in this fucking
eth Christian ethno state that they love and we're meant
to be like, okay, well what do we do and
a part of me is looking at I'm like, you know,
we're already living in a country where the Conservatives controlled everything. Yeah,

(33:17):
so what's the fucking difference, right, honestly that the speakers
different and then you're not doing ship just so and
go to the Senate and fucking die and not we're
not passing anything. They really have a problem here that
they have to be able to articulate to say this
is how it's going to be different. But I don't
think they can because this is all structurally just part

(33:38):
of how politics work in the United States. There's there
there has to be so much substantive change, like especially
around money and politics before you can even begin to
have some kind of philosophical shift on how policies made
that y's for me, I'm like, you know what, I'd
rather not put all my energy into being angry at
these fucking clowns who do the same ship every time,

(33:59):
and I'm what the funk the clowns clound it up again,
and I'd rather put my energy and like, you know what,
how the funk do we figure this out for each other?
Because I'm tired of leaning on them. I'm I'm much
more interested in how as communities we can look out
for each other because at least those people, I feel
more beholden to my neighbor or someone in my community
than some abstraction in a suit talking to me with

(34:21):
a D next to their name in parentheses on a
TV screen. Yeah right, the sentiment that, like people, I've
heard people you know, obviously this is like truly horrifying,
and I don't begrudge anyone being outrage and surprised by this,
But like the the idea that, like the the idea

(34:42):
that a bunch of old religious extremists can like take
away the rights of a majority of people to bodily autonomy,
Like we live in a society with six times the
imprisonment rate of black people than prohibition to Arara, South Africa.
Like we are living in an unjust society that abuses

(35:05):
the rights and bodies and destroys the lives of the
poor in order to conserve like very weird, very white supremacist,
very like religious extremist values, Like this is not new,
and like that's that is what we that is our society,

(35:25):
and so like we I don't know, I feel like
that that is not that can't that can't be surprising
to us anymore, Like this is a police state that
governs at the whims of a very few, very wealthy people. Basically, Yeah,
especially with the Supreme Court as a institution, it needs

(35:48):
to either be like fully reformed or abolished or something else,
like we we kind of have nine pops or kings
or something. You can just redo the whole government and
the whole legal system anytime they want to, and they
in particular people want history out. There's a great book
by Ian Millheiser. It's called Injustices and the the basic

(36:09):
argument is that the Supreme Court has only done anything
for people for like twenty five years, the warrant courts
and the Briger courts in the sixties and seventies, which
and one of the things they did was the road decision.
But other than that, it's mostly made life worse for
humans in the country and better for corporations and government power.

(36:30):
But that's pretty much all it's done across its whole history.
And then like there's a blip where they did Brown
versus Board, and they did Row and they did the
things were excited about. But that's a real outlier historically. Yes,
I mean I feel like we we don't need a
separate governmental wing to do things for corporations. They already

(36:51):
got all the power. I think we're think we're covered there.
It's like Marvel movies enough, you know, plenty we've seen it. Yeah, Yeah,
I just feel like more, you know, we have to
be real about what Congress and a president can deliver
when their interests have nothing to do with what normal

(37:13):
working people, nonwealthy people like, when it's completely disconnected from
that reality because they what we're like, what we experience
is like fuck it, like as if Congress is trying
to do remote surgery like on the planet from three
planets away, like on one person, Like that's how many
layers removed they are from the thing they're working on. Yeah,

(37:36):
And it shows more and more in the absurdity of
it only becomes clear and clear, and I think, and
I get why people feel so anstrad and why the
vibes are bad, because we're in a situation where we're like,
how the funk up? Like that what this this? This
this isn't doing shit at all, and we're and I

(37:59):
think we're just not at a point where more like
it's normal to articulate this is fucking broken and it
and it's not where as it is. It's not going
to work without a dramatic shift. And because it requires
such a dramatic shift, the powers that be are not
able to articulate that they're too entrenced in it to
be able to say we're the fucking problem. So it's

(38:22):
really incumbent again on us to figure out what the
funk we need to do as communities, as people collectively
to be able to ensure the kinds of safeties and
outcomes that we believe we are we are owed as people,
And I'm like, there is a lot that the federal
government can do, but on a certain level, we have
to begin to find a way where we can say, look,
no matter what's happening there, like, we can find a

(38:44):
way to make this work for each other. And I'm
much more interested in those kinds of solutions than me
being like, you know, let's go to Steve Karnaki at
the fucking electoral map and see whether the vote counts
come in. Right, that's all spectacle, and it's and and
every time we get all caught up in that ship,
people are losing their lives to the police, to bigoted,

(39:06):
homophobic people two having to find some other alternative to
reproductive care. And yeah, it's it's it's it's just it's demoralizing,
you know, it's just to say, like, this is the
country that we live in, demoralizing by by design, I think. Yea. Yeah, So,

(39:28):
speaking of like alternatives, producers back in Tricia put together
a list of various you know, mutual aids organizations that
we're gonna put in the footnotes. There's also a point
I'm saying made a lot of places that's also when
the research is just the medical improvements of basically medication
abortions by mail for people who aren't able to travel

(39:52):
or take off work, you know, home abortions are now
very safe and also safe people who need abortions from
going to a clinic facing protesters. So there are organizations
like plans see hey Jane, Abortion on Demand that can
offer more information about that, and we'll link off to

(40:12):
that as well. And then there's a list of funds
in each of the twenty states that are most likely
to enact to ban on abortion. There's mutual aid funds
and states where access to abortion is most at risk,
and then figure out where there are protests near you.
There's one being organized at the Supreme Court. There's also

(40:32):
fully Square in Manhattan, the Texas Capital US Courthouse in
l A, and many other towns and cities. So look
up what's happening near you. And in addition to being
able to like show up and show your support physically,
you know, you might meet people who are also trying
to figure out what the funk we do from here.

(40:54):
But we'll we'll have more of that in the footnotes
and also in trending episodes. But yeah, I think public
outcry is the only the one thing we have right now.
This is a draft. I don't know, maybe someone one
justice decides to do go the other way, but I'm

(41:14):
not counting. I don't know. I mean, I'm I don't know.
I'm I'm very pessimistic at the moment, just because I'm
so fucking tired of the duplicity and nonsense that we're
having to deal with when every single person is just
trying to fucking live. But you know this, They're they're
not don't this. I think this decision is probably a
month away from actually becoming public. So yeah, I recently

(41:36):
heard someone talk about how hope is underrated and an
important thing. I think it can also be a dangerous
thing if it's fueled by just being disconnected from the
realities of what people are living through around you and
what your day to day life is actually you know,
being funded at the expense of If you're not in

(41:59):
touch reality, then hope is actually bullshit and very dangerous.
So yeah, yeah, when we're and when we're taping this,
I think there's no information about how the draft got
out or who leaked it, And there's a bunch of
claims about it being one side or the other side
trying to do something, but either way, like it just

(42:19):
mainly seems designed to mess with all of us, Like
it's trying to put some kind of German people's heads,
like if you do the right post or sign, you'll
you'll change Amy Coney Barrett's heart, and like no, that's
not that's not part of your purview. Just like take
care of yourself and and do what Miles was describing,
especially with like you know, finding people around you who

(42:40):
are working on the right thing, right, connect to other
people who give a fuck. Yeah, yeah, and be amazed
at what can happen when you find a bunch of
people who have a you know, a good spirit and
want to look like want to do something good. I
think that's the most hopeful thing is to identify those
people be there for people because this is a very
difficult moment to be there for people and just you know,

(43:04):
support each other in the moment, because yeah, this is
this is this is a really grim moment. And to
your point, like I don't know who leaked it. I
don't know if that's a the d n c S
type thing where they're like, oh man, they fuck it,
they need to this is gonna help. They need to
know about this, you know type ship, which feels very cynical,
and I'm like, I don't know. The way they're talking
about it feels like they knew this, how was gonna happen,
Like maybe this will fucking help out the prol numbers,

(43:27):
which is so fucked up or whatever. And then on that,
which is really interesting, I do want to touch on
how the conservative media was touching on it. They were
so fucking enraged that it was leasal yeah, who knew,
who knew? Because their little fascist gender revealed didn't happen
the way they wanted it to. Because I'm sure they

(43:48):
wanted that pins and needles moment with people on the
steps of the Capitol, and then they bring the ball
and I was like, yeah, we fucking rolled back time, right.
But on Fox of people like Ari Fleischer, who was
saying ship like this is I'm just gonna I I honestly,
I'm just gonna play these words because this I think
this is a little bit instructive into how Fox News

(44:11):
and conservative media is also trying to get their viewers
in line with what's happened. Because let's keep in mind
only thirty percent of Americans that said they wanted Row overturned. Um,
what really troubles me not about the ruling itself. If
that's the ruling itself, I accept in respect that ruling.
But the lad has a man. Make no mistaken, this

(44:32):
is an insurrection against the Supreme Court. I've already seen
people on the left celebrating this leaker, calling him brave,
trying to throw a hail Mary to stop the ruling
from being issued. Who at the Supreme Court will trust
each other now if they know that their drafts are
going to be leaked just like everything else in Washington.

(44:52):
Who think who gives couldn't stop himself from cragging a
smile wing. If that's the ruling, I respect, and this
is Mike Hook could be also going along with the
same trope one step further. This is an insurrection not
by some guy from some state who got hot under
the collar and went to d C and got overheated

(45:14):
at a rally. This is insurrection by a person who
is paid for but the taxpayers, and who has a
duty under his particular job and employment to keep his
mouth shut. And Okay, so you know, the outrage machine
is fired up because if you no one's talking about
the substance of the decision, well, the decision I accepted, well, right,

(45:38):
because to go there, I don't think they don't want
their viewers to begin a thought experiment about what their
own views are on abortion, because they're like, you're you here,
you're on the same team. Now. The way to think
about this is not all the reproductive rights that are
being rolled back and eventually people who just want to have,
you know, or any form of birth control. It's about

(46:00):
they did an insurrection to the Supreme Court, and that
ship is so fucking weak. I'm like, I'm just like, bro,
this is I'll swinging that's some bullshit over here. Yeah,
but it's there. They were just waiting for the right
moment to do the mirroring thing they do where they
take the words that is being used to describe what
they're actually doing and apply it to something that is

(46:23):
actually like a good thing to just kind of make
us you know, it's the Yeah, but at the nuances
too much for the Fox viewer. I know what they're doing,
but like it's not like it's easy to be like
there's a freaking invasion of immigrants and then show people
at the board that's someone document there's no law, like

(46:46):
even if the you know, uh, Chief Justice Roberts, like
there's gonna be investigation. They said, unless there's real hacking
or criminal activity there, you can't arrest anybody. But it's
way worse that this person has a job and did
bad job than somebody got a little hot under collar
and tried to overthrow the government with guns. Yeah, beat

(47:09):
the ship. I have a Capitol police officer with a
flag pole. I don't know, but that's like the thing
I feel like sometimes I am dismissive of Fox News
and like Fox News viewers as you know that this
is dumb that, like they're doubling their mirroring, Like that
ship is very effective, like them just being like this

(47:30):
now we say insurrection, and like they are learning, like
they pull the ship from Putin it is how to
lie on the internet, and they are good at it.
And it's like there's not a counterpoint on the side
of good and they're just beating the ship out of

(47:51):
the truth constantly on a day to day basis, and
they're very good at it. And like I feel like
the talking point of like look at these idiots is
probably dangerous at this point because they're winning. They're winning,
and they're they're very good. Well, I think because the
reason they're winning is by its very nature are capitalistic.

(48:12):
Society is built to just enrich the very few at
the cost of the many, and because the Republicans endgame
is actually more in line with that, that's why they're
doing a better job, is because they're not fighting the
current of capitalism, like and the problem is Democrats pretend to,

(48:33):
so they don't get anything done and there, but even
though they're there, we're still playing in the same sandbox though,
where being a dick head wins and where again I
think it's just they're going to win if this is
always going to be the venue for trying to legislate
or adjudicate anything that is, you know, has a tangible

(48:55):
effect on people's quality of life, it's just not going
to work because the Democrat where they suddenly be like,
you know what, we've become socialists, right, Nope, Yeah, that
ain't happening. That's not happening. So so how I mean,
that's why I'm like, I can't there's no way I
can expect them to do anything that's corrective. And I

(49:17):
can't expect Republican Republicans will keep doing because they're we're
they're operating a system that actually that's it's built to
do that. So yeah, that's when they're winning, because that's
what the whole thing is. Yeah, yeah, this is like
a the current analogy is so right on, Like this
is a fifty year current that Republicans have been fomented

(49:39):
and swimming with, especially specifically on abortion, Like they've been
holding a March for Life in Washington, d C. Every year.
They've been like trying to make this happen, and they
like today and then eventually when this draft becomes a thing,
like they got everything they've wanted for fifty years, and
they're using a leaker to say we are the victims today.

(49:59):
We we have been oppressed by this devious person who
we're just going to decide is on the left, even
though there's absolutely no evidence of that. Like we we
have been struck a cruel blow along the lines of
what's that word interaction. Let's go with that there saying great,
you ruined the surprise that I took the ice cream

(50:24):
cake out of the fridge. I can't put it back.
It doesn't get right. And you put it back, it
doesn't work. Also, they have a good beard consultant whoever
is doing the beard work for them, because my cuck
would be looks better with with a beard. So that's another.
He looks like a dude who would lie that he's
a Jedi. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.
He's like, I'm a Jedi. I'm like, bro, get the

(50:45):
funk away from me. Reached cruise is beard guy. It's powerful.
Everybody telling Mike, may the Fourth be with you, throw
one of those to him. That's that's today. That's right,
Fourth be with you as well. Brother. All right, let's
take a quick break we'll be right back, and we're back.

(51:14):
And there was a recent study published by the University
of Toronto claiming that Oscar winners are more likely to
live longer than their unnominated co stars. So they're unnominated. Okay,
that's a little more specially unnominated. And also so it's
it's a little confusing because there's also there's also a

(51:35):
version of the number set that includes people who are
nominated but didn't win, and when you combine all of
them together, the Oscar winners outlived them by four years.
Presumably Meryl Streep will outlive my grandchildren and then should
already be dead, right exactly. She watched it moves like

(51:56):
eight times, so around five years longer than those who
missed out. The study found no official reason for this,
except that winners may quote follow the ideals of a
prudent lifestyle or maybe game confidence that allows them to
avoid some stress. I this is some amateur, fortunately, real

(52:17):
amateur bullshit. I believe that there's no official reason. But
my belief is that they follow some ideal of a
prudent life and have abilities to have less stress. Okay, yeah, cool,
A happy person. I So I have a theory. I
think the real reason is is interesting and not They

(52:39):
might just be happier and happiness good, you know, and
they probably avoid some stresses, so I feel like, you know,
first of all, winning is not a product of merit
or effort or skill because like one of the theories
is also like the by having better like stres management techniques,

(53:01):
they put themselves in a position to like also be
an Oscar winner. Motherfucker, what studio put the film out?
What's their market, that's their awards budget, that's the The
win is the result of an industry conspiring to work
with you to wage your money on your career and
wager and then, like an Oscar win is good for
your career, and when you win, you become more profitable.

(53:25):
Like once money is wagered on your career and you win,
than you are more profitable to an entire like galaxy
of very successful and shrewd people who are in the
business of investing in people's careers. Like each celebrity is
not a like autonomous individual like the rest of us.

(53:50):
They are the forward facing mascot of an entire small
company worth of people working to try to make money
off of their career. And you can squeeze more money
out of a company that has won the big game
at a word season. Basically, Hey, why is that one
racehorse all healthy that keeps winning all the races? Because
it keeps winning all the races, and they put more

(54:10):
investing more money in that racehorse, so keep winning, breathing,
and that's why the shitty horses we don't talk about anymore. Yeah,
I all this this study is extra funny on the
context of most Oscar campaigns in the press, which is
how much strife the actor went through, right, Like, no,
it's just working out really good for them. Like I

(54:31):
don't care that Leodoto Ardo DiCaprio was like in the
woods for a month or mat a bear or something.
That's that he didn't really go through that much and
he's gonna be fun It's okay, right, Oh wow. I
mean now now I really have to think about what
what's the true cost of the oscars if people are
dying there only if they're living four years less? Right, Well, yeah,

(54:54):
but I mean it's that's the other thing is like
it's also terrible. You know actors who were not nominated,
so presumably are they pulling from like all actors like
people who are in B movies as extras, because then
I fully believe the numbers that and like, that's the
least surprising thing in the world that the person who

(55:16):
was like in the spotlight of the entire industry would
have have a longer lifespan. It's I just like petty
pseudo science like this, you know where it's like, dude,
you die sooner if you lost at the Oscars. It's like,
that's not that's not a real investigation. But I like
this idea. I like the concept or like to ruminate

(55:38):
on it. But Dr Don htel Meyer is who the
study comes from. You actually may know his work. He
was the first to study the correlation between cell phone
use and car crashes back in when only stockbrokers and
Alicia Silverstone characters at cell phones, and he was the
first to discover a huge increase in fatalities on Super

(56:00):
Bowl Sunday, which actually informed like public safety policies and campaigns.
So part of me doesn't think that one is as special. Man.
I feel like people get fucked up. You might want
to be careful out there every time people get sucked
up on this day, but it's hard to those are

(56:23):
I mean the cell phone thing. Okay, so he's got
he's got a got a little bit of a CD
to Leo, like, yeah, I'm starting to think this guy
just likes entertainment like that. I like ment, all right,
is it? Like yeah? Like and how I wonder if,
like how many like were him experiencing it, like he

(56:43):
was on a cell phone and like almost crashed. Oh fuck,
oh man, I can't be the but he has like
this that wherewth aught to be like, I can't be
the only person who just almost did that. We probably
need to look at that cut to you know what
cell phones might be dangerous. Another time, he got get
faced at a Super Bowl party, embarrassed himself trying to

(57:04):
go home and crashed his car into like a fucking tree,
like on a fucking you know, like an abandoned road,
and then came to that decision too. I think these
are like these are carbon offsets for his like own
life where he's just like constantly like driving through parks
and like taking out people and being like huh, all right,

(57:25):
well I gotta educate people about this. I'm a I'm
a method researcher. I tried to embody the terrible thing
that I think could happen like that at all, um
strengthening my theory that it's just because the whole industry
wants oscar winners to live longer so they can continue
to make money off of them. While actors who want

(57:46):
oscars live longer, writers who want oscars ended up dying
sooner by about three point six years. And that that
tracks because nobody gives your ship about writers and how
and writers are torture, like so many tortured souls like
that are like really great writers to That's yeah, I
can see that. I hope it's also because the non

(58:08):
winning screenplays, the writer was lazy, so they conserved a
bunch of energy, saved a bunch of health. You know,
they got eight hour sleep every night. It's great. I
just like though that his whole this theory even came
that he said he watched the Oscars and he said
the celebrities look quote much more vivacious that the Awards
shows the regular people. They weren't cocaine. Man. I just

(58:33):
I just want to talk to this guy. I'm like, yo, bro,
let's come up with a study right now. Man. Hold On,
He's like they're vivacious. Hold On, hold on, do you
die sooner if you lose an Oscar? Oh my god,
he's just a guy who hasn't learned that it's cool
to be famous. Like, how is all this joy reaching them?

(58:56):
How is this happening? It looks so happy. That's like
a parent text that you said, Like, you know, a
celebrity's mom is like, hey, great job on the red carpet.
You look so happy. You look so happy. It makes
me happy. It feeds my heart. And that's all I wanted,
you know, I told you that I just want you
to be happy. Honey. M hm. So you brought that

(59:19):
what's her name with you? I wasn't doing anything, but
she looked happy too, So that's a little to do that. Mom,
her name's Meryl, Meryl Street. Hapen over this pretty often.
You told me you like the Iron Lady a lot
to like you really liked it. She is the mother

(59:40):
of your grandchildren. Mom, Jesus, I guess I still haven't
seen a attorney test. All right, alex As always truly
a pleasure having you. Um, where can people find you?
To follow you? All that good stuff? Not that? Yeah,
thank you guys as always for having me and uh yeah,
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of time talking about how the US sewage system is

(01:01:05):
a great metaphor for the electoral politics. About a year ago,
I did a sewage system secretly incredibly fascinating and it
was very fascinating fat bergs. I was not ready for
the fat bergs of icebergs. God, that's gross. I do.
I love the idea of me being a puppet master
some of the time. That's really fun. Like just once

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in a while, is there a tweet or some of
the work of social media you've been enjoying, yea saw.
This is from It's at Chris Trauma is the name.
It's a funny account, Chris Trauma. The tweet was imagine
getting fitted for a tucks and the guy makes measurements
with a fruit by the foot and neither of you

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say a word about it the whole time. I love it. Yeah,
I'm getting married later this year. They had like my
first tailor experiences, and yeah, I want that to be
what happened to me. You're still shopping around for tailors
until you find one who's gonna do it right. Yeah.
One of them tried to use gushers. They're not really

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good as a unit of measurement. Yeah, to find a
bunch of fruit roll ups. Yeah, I just liked It's like,
uh huh, and he's like an Obviously, I'm a professional,
so I do leave the paper on so it doesn't
damage your current garments. When I'm doing I measuing which
my free by the food and fruit by the foot.
Take Miles, where can people find you with a tweet?
You've been enjoying Twitter, Instagram at Miles of Gray. If

(01:02:32):
you like four twenty Day Fiance, then check that out.
That's not a good way to promote that, but check
out that other podcast I do call also the Basketball
Show as usual Miles and Jack got Mad Boost. These
are NBA show where it's just great. We're in the
middle of the playoffs. We're talking that talk talking to
maybe tune in and know a lot of Milwaukee Bucks

(01:02:54):
fans like, when's the honest love it's coming. Okay, it
is imminent. Yes, we have to take a breath in.
We talk about our beloved basketball players. Some tweets that
I like. First one is from Sam Sanders that Sam
Sanders tweeted one thing I'll say about political They don't
hold vital reporting hostage until a book release, which yeah,

(01:03:15):
for good or bad that is true, and then says
la at cessy Cuba kh I b A tweeted not
my mom telling me she talked she still talked to
my ex because I still talked to her ex man
my dad ship. Wow, I hope that's like that. In fact,

(01:03:35):
that's such a terribly unhealthy relationship with your mother. Like,
oh parts, If that is true, I'm like, but hey,
we love a joke. I feel like I just watched
like a ten part talking about her eight and my
friend is catching up. What did he do? Um, let's

(01:03:57):
see tweets I've been enjoying. I liked just a lot
of the tweets about about about the experience of being
on Twitter while the met Gala was happening and the
overturning of Row was being announced. I like Jamie Love
just says, tweet what if we kissed? While Elon Musk
monetized our viral tweets about Row being overturned, And yeah,

(01:04:25):
I like oh the logan Trent Crack writer tweeted, y'all
let them scapegoat Muslims with that Sharia law bullshit while
they stockpiled as much Christian fascism as they could fill
their cards. With just good, good perspective. Um. You can
find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien. You can
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the information that we talked about in today's episode, as
well as a song that we think it might enjoy. Miles,
what something do we think people might enjoy? You? Oh man?
This is a track from like a seventies sixties Brazilian

(01:05:08):
artist named blunder Leia who was like a TV presenter
but also like a musician. And this track Lindo is
just it's fun, it's sexy, you know what I mean.
It's it's like got this like old like seventies like
sort of poppy soul vibe, like on the brink of disco.
But it's just I just love the instrumentation on it,

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and it's real instruments. I find myself like every now
and then, like I want to hear people play that
on their instruments and make music rather than sampling and
stuff like that. So this is a great track. So
this is Lindo by under Lea. Al Right, well, The
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(01:05:51):
That is going to do it for us this morning.
We're back this afternoon to tell you what's trending and
we'll talk to you all then Bye bye ware to Pa.

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