It’s The Endgame Of The World, Trump’s Terrifying Anti-Vax Beliefs 4.29.19

In episode 380, Jack and special guest host Laci Mosley are joined by comedian and Private Parts Unknown co-host Courtney Kocak to discuss the Avengers: Endgame box office sales, Kanye West's Sunday Service, Britney Spears coming back home, a possible herpes outbreak at Coachella, a measles outbreak in Los Angeles, Trump having a history of being an anti-vaxxer, a 'we already live in black mirror' update, and more!

FOOTNOTES:

1. Avengers: Endgame

2. Kanye West Considering Starting a Church, Says Source: 'He Is Extremely Passionate About His Faith'

3. Britney Spears gets her kids back, but concerns remain on several fronts, report says

4. Britney Spears checks out of mental health facility, reports say

5. Herpes reports skyrocketed around Coachella

6. UCLA and Cal State L.A. quarantine hundreds of students and staff in measles outbreak

7. Trump on measles vaccination: 'They have to get the shot'

8. Trump: Autism linked to child vaccinations

9. Donald Trump is rekindling one of his favorite conspiracy theories: Vaccine safety

10. Bill Gates: Trump twice asked me the difference between HIV and HPV

11. Why data, not privacy, is the real danger

12. WATCH: Ama Lou - Not Always

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season eighty, episode one
of dir Daily's Ice Guys, the podcast where we take
a deep dive into America's share consciousness and say officially
off top, fuck Coke Industries and Fox News. It's Monday,
April nine. Team. My name is Jack O'Brien, Jack and
Tan O'Brien, and I'm surel to be joined by my

(00:23):
special guest co host, one of the faces on Mount
Zike Moore, the hilarious and talented Lacy Mostly Love is
Lacey Mosley, a k A scam goddess, first of a name,
the Unbunch, the Queen of the Cons and the Charlatans,
Colici of the Bamboo se Link, break Up Contracts, and

(00:46):
Mother of Deception. Welcomee. Well done. Uh not bad, I guess.
I mean Jack and Tan was pretty good, so a
hard one to follow, but you know your accent work
was on point. Uh oh, We're thrilled to be joined
in about it. The hilarious writer Courtney Cosa, what what

(01:09):
just plan out? Court Me? Love it just planing out, Courtney.
It's good to be with you guys again. And yeah,
it's a season eighty. We made it a lot of
people said we wouldn't make it past season seventy two,
but we we really did it. You guys, Courtney, how

(01:31):
you been? What's new? Holy sh it? I just got
off a plane. I slept on a plane last night.
I was in Hawaii for thirty hours a work trip.
It was good. Damn Yeah. How was it? Would you
learn about Hawaii? I had an amazing uber driver who like,
isn't that your favorite thing when they just give you
a free tour? I mean, if you're in the mood

(01:53):
for it, it's perfect. Not so good when you're not
in the right playing to catch in taking a long
way to no. I think she was pretty efficient. Okay, yeah,
she was pointing out all the you know, the landmarks
for a thirty hour trip. I was very happy that. Okay,

(02:13):
you gotta like got your money's where she drove you
around and it looked legit like what she was saying
it was true. Yeah. Yeah, told me some facts about whales.
What mare can you ask for? She was like, uh,
showed you a time share that she thought you would
really enjoy. Wait, what did she tell you about whales?
Oh my god, there's some apparently. Yeah, it's like a

(02:34):
huge humpback whale spot like at this certain beach in Maui,
and there was a straggler. Recently, she had a whole
story about this lonely whale. Anyway, whales are very interesting.
Did you see any way? I was jumping smart best
off as whales don't jump up at the whales out
of the water. Have you not seen the Path Life

(02:57):
logo or whatever? Some financial companies just jumping through the water. Um,
all right, guys, uh, Courtney, We're gonna get to know
you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're
gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about.
We're gonna talk about the fact that Avengers Endgame is
a truly global zeitgeist phenomenon. Um, we're gonna talk about

(03:20):
Kanye West and the church that he may or may
not be starting. Britney Spears is back kind of. Maybe
we're gonna do an outbreak update, a hopefully not recurring
segment where we talk about a measles outbreak as well
as a herpies outbreak. We're gonna talk about the president's

(03:40):
long history of being a vaccine anti vaxer uh, and
the Then we're just gonna do a general check in.
I'm trying to launch a bunch of recurring segments today. Guys.
Uh the we already Live in Black Mirror update where
we talk about the fact that our world is getting

(04:01):
creepy as fuck with regards to our relationship to technology.
But first, Courtney would like to ask our guests, what
is something from your search history that's revealing about who
you are? I recently searched burning Man nineteen with a
question mark no. I was like, burning Man baby, Um

(04:26):
so yeah, no, I I've never been. Have you guys been?
You haven't burned? I haven't burned now I have not been.
Our fans Zeitgang has a burning Man contingent that they're
trying to tweet at me, like I wanna, I really

(04:47):
want to go for private parts unknown too. I wanted
to go and like interview people because apparently people take
their kids and stuff like it's like wild. They're yeah,
like it's it's not even just like the drug stuff
you would expect. It's also just like well, it's like
they like I had heard about it years and years
ago when I was living in New York and they
were I think that's when it was a little less mainstream,

(05:10):
but it was like you go and you like barter
with people for stuff, and like it's all about keeping
the area clean and everything too, and drugs also. But
now I feel like, isn't it so commercial? Now? Um,
that's I've heard it's commercial. But I've heard that from
people who then go on to describe their experience, like

(05:31):
trading a bike for like mescalin, and you know, like
building a a moving sculpture out of Christmas tree lights
and you know, an old V that doesn't seem very mainstream,
like it sounds it sounds pretty cool. I think the
mainstream nous of it is that there are now tech
billionaires who like helicopter in and out and people are

(05:54):
like that's sucking whack. And there's people who really, you know,
treat it like a an opportunity to spend a lot
of money to have a air conditioned you know, jet
stream RV trailer or whatever. But if they let you
stay in it, yeah, do whatever you want. It's fun. Um,

(06:15):
So I'm interested. I have not made up my mind
on on whether I will go. Uh probably not twenty nineteen,
but maybe eventually I'll bring my kids. I'll be one
of those, I'll be and I'll just go like hardcore,
like normcore dad with with the kids like fanny packs,

(06:39):
like act like we're at Disney World just walking around.
That would be awesome. Some really unsafe rides there. Yeah,
So what what made you interested in Burning Man? I
its piqued my interest for several years, and I just
haven't got I haven't done Coachella either, even though it

(07:02):
sounds like I should go just for the herpies. Yeah,
when you go for the music, you stay for the herpes, okay, so,
but then but then you go there and they have
herpes you've never seen before, like types of herpies that
are just uh yeah. No. I've done Coachella once and
that was plenty for me because I'm old. But uh yeah,

(07:26):
I would say, I don't know. Burning Man seems to
be a little bit more of a like unique experience,
whereas Coachella is a music festival and there it's just
very much that and that is like so commercial in mainstream, right, ye,
Like without a doubt, yes, without a doubt. I'm trying
to do both, but I'm trying to be like the
whack commercial mainstream person who flies in on the like

(07:48):
because I've done Coachella, like as a regular person. I
was like, I will not go back unless I am
constantly being driven around by golf carts. I want to
I want a porcelain toilet with a bidet. I want
water shooting up my booty at Coachella. I'm not gonna
be out here and no ranged, but I don't know
about the porcelain the day Okay, Okay, yeah, yeah, I

(08:11):
do think that's like Coachella is worth doing if you
are there and like connected and like no all the parties,
like there's all sorts of like private party. It's it's
all the worst parts of capitalism and stuff like that.
That's why I want to be exclusiveness and the you know,
mining fomo for corporate profits. Sadly, I love that part

(08:33):
of capitalism. Though the other day, I LA is the
worst place for this ship too. I went to the
store a pretty little thing because I kept saying all
the influencers posting about it, why did I go to
this store? Okay, I got out of my uber. I
was burned at the time, and I get out and
I go to open the door, and this bouncer comes
up and he goes this store is for Instagram models only.

(08:53):
He was like, oh damn, you just got out of
your uber too. Would just lift and then he gave
me my coupon from for for them all and send
me all my way the store. Honey, they's your money
is no good here please, but one day they will invite.
That is defensive. It was horrible, But listening y'all can

(09:15):
see me hashtag pretty little thing on my girl. I
can't wait till you pretty women woman. Oh yeah, I'm gonna.
I'm gonna come in with all my fashion Nova bags
stake huge. What is pretty little things? This is? It's
another one of those high fashion like we rip off
outfits and sell them high street online. It's a store.

(09:36):
There's a billboard like by Capital Records. Probably seen it
a million times, so I mean I'd be able to
get in, right for sure? Yeah? You tell them about
the daily right. I want to see Jack modeling pretty. Hey, guys,
I was told that this is a cool place to
shop's coach Jack Dan? Will you will you hold my

(09:58):
child for me? What is something you think is overrated? Cording?
Single use plastic? I know I'm a little late, you know,
Earth Day is over, but it's Earth Day. Should be
Earth Day every day? Right, So that's when you use
a plastic thing and just throw it out your window
because you're done with it. Well, here's the deal. Even
if you recycle it, it's like it doesn't all get

(10:19):
recycled and people throw stupid ship in their recycling bins
and like mess it all up. No, okay, sorry, don't
turtle it directly at the turtle. Is that what you're saying?
Killed the turtle for sure? With the plastic bottle the
middleman out. Yeah. No, I have just been like reading

(10:42):
stuff and bummed about global warming. I know that this
isn't fun but real, but yeah, we do all parts
of the zeitgeist, even the parts where we're destroying the earth.
Thing all gonna die in twelve years. I just want
to issue a challenge to the Zeke Gang that I
did this recently and it was hard, but also I

(11:04):
learned a lot of stuff I did. Uh, thirty day
zero waste challenge personal challenge for myself. I can't poop
for thirty days. That sounds really hard, super backed up? No,
I uh yeah, I just tried not to. I mean,
zero waste that doesn't exist, right, So I still generated waste,

(11:25):
but way less than usual, and like normally I wouldn't
think twice about like using a plastic you know, or
buying like a diet mountain dew, or like drinking a
sugar free red you know whatever. You're speaking my language.
Were you specifically putting it in terms of mountain dew
because you're trying to appeal to me. We've talked about this, okay, cool,

(11:47):
So yeah, I just think overrated. Let's we should cut
that out. So single use plastic? We should is okay?
Got it? Got it? Just as a culture, think what
are some like tips? Because you said, like, oh, I
like mountain dew, I was just thinking that then you
just get it from the soda fountain. You guys, like what, yeah,
what are you doing? So in my thirty days I

(12:09):
developed a real trash monster routine where I would just
go to my this is bad. But I would go
to the taco bell by me and I would you
would live, mom, I'm so embarrassed to it with this.
I would take two water bottles, like you know, reusable
water bottles, and I would ask for my crunch wraps

(12:31):
supreme with beans instead of meat, and I would say
don't give me a bag, do not give me a
bag or any just put the beans in my bare hands,
my tacos, okay, and then I would fill up the
bottles and they not only let me most of the
time they didn't charge me. They would not charge me

(12:53):
for this is not shocking Taco bells because stumers they're like, like,
we know our tail. That's amazing. Wait, okay, this is good.
I didn't use all those bottles that I would have
used on those beverages. What was the crunch trap Supreme
placed on? Yeah, it just comes in like a little

(13:15):
envelope type deal, which I can deal with. But then
when they also throw it in the bag and they
give you and then they give like the big plastic cup,
it's like that's too much. So and then you have
to eat the napkin as well. Right, you're totally doing
your zero and then not poop it out because you can't.
Because and what is something you think is underrated? Courtney

(13:37):
Quick trips, you guys? I have most of them have
been for work, I'm going to say, but I have
had to take like five trips in the last month
that have been like this thirty hour kind of deal.
And it's actually dope. It seems like a not great
way to experience the city, Like maybe you need more time,

(13:58):
but really it's like same as sex. It's like a
little quickie, we'll really do you real real good. That
that's a lesson all men need to hear. One night
in Palm Springs. No, this is for just locals to
write a great sexual metaphor for sex with me one night.
I don't even know what that means. So are you hot? Exactly?

(14:25):
A little tumbleweed? What's wrong? Where are you going? Uh?
What are you spending the night there? So? Yeah, usually
spend the night or I wind up spending the night
on the plane. Whatever. Yeah, like MAUI was thirty hours.
I spent one night. Um, I did a recent thing

(14:48):
in New York, same thing, but I got to see people.
You know, every time you can maybe get an uber
tour if you're lucky. Yeah, I just did my first
business trip where I took the flight in the morning
and flew back in the afternoon. It was just like
a single single meeting trip and yeah it was. It
was good. It felt efficient. I was like, man, this

(15:10):
modern world that we live in, those are baller I've
done a couple of those two and I feel like
I should like have a little briefcase and like a
real businesswoman. Now booked a flight like in a restaurant,
because like I have a friend in San Francisco and
I was like, what you doing tonight? He was like,
what do you mean? I was like, I'm coming. There's um.

(15:34):
I feel like this is what we'll probably get called
out for the environmental damage that our wanton traveling is doing.
But that's for it's for the people in the in
our comments to worry about. On group planes, that's better
prop like biplanes, the ones with the two wings and

(15:55):
the propeller up front. Yeah, I have goggle and like
a leather hat on and a scarf, always a scarf
that's just blowing in the wind behind me. Um. United,
legit they made me watch like a five minute infomercial
about how eco friendly they are, so they must be
spending their money on something. So yeah, maybe it is.

(16:17):
They're like, look, when you beating up your passengers, you
killing the dogs. Yeah, but all this traveling also, as
we'll find out later in this episode, might be giving
us a nice quick case of the measles. But we'll
get to that in a moment. Also, what is a myth?
What's something that people think it is true you know

(16:38):
to be false? Also travel related, Uh, babies are the
most annoying people on any given plane. Okay, not true.
Sat next to a full grown woman who was just
acting crazy, shaking like I was like, she kept reading

(16:58):
this this mess over and over. So I was like,
at first, I tried to be sensitive. I saw something
about like I think it was fiction. I think she
was like she was. I wasn't trying. I definitely read
over people's shoulders, like, okay, not going to judge you,

(17:18):
but I am. That's not just looking down on literally
looking down on everything you're reading. So she's having this
like anxiety attack. It sounds like she was so fussy
and so annoying, and it was it was an over
it was a red eye. I was like trying to sleep,
and she and then and she was encouraging her daughter

(17:39):
to act the same way. And she would like at
the same time, she knew what she was doing. So
she'd be like, I'm sorry, I just flying. He sucks, right,
And I'd be like, yeah, but you don't have to
act like that that much. She was encouraging her daughter.
She was like, you're not shaking enough, Like, yeah, her daughter,
she would be like her daughter would she traded spots

(18:00):
with her daughter, and then her daughter would like bump
me or whatever, and then she would make it worse
by like loudly yelling at her daughter, but also like
getting on in and out of the seed a million times. Anyway,
I'm just saying things can be worse than babies on planes.
Babies are bad like half the time, and when they're bad,
they're really really bad. Yeah, if they're like having a

(18:21):
meltdown the whole flight, nobody's happy. Put a little Jack
Daniels on that pacifier. Do us all a favor? Hey,
from your heart to God's ears. Um, yeah, that's good
parenting advice. Give your children alcohol. Um, lady could have
used some for sure. That's actually I should have bought

(18:42):
her a drink, just been like, shut the hell up. Yeah.
Have you ever sat next to somebody who's like just
mainlining like vodka, sodas or whatever? Is my favorite people?
I know, it's just I respect the hell out of
like really serious drinkers on planes who are just like
need need to constantly be actively drinking liquor to like

(19:03):
get through the flight. So there was this guy that
I spotted on the way. I was like, oh, he's
kind of attractive, and then he started drinking all these
mini bottles of wine and he was like watching A
Star Is Born, and then he passed out right before
the ending. So I went from like thinking he was
attractive to thinking he was like the biggest dumbass in

(19:25):
the world. I was just like, like, who drinks and
watches The Star Is Born? Like that just supposed like
the darkest thing you could do. A movie is sad
as fuck. I like that, like somebody with a drinking
problem watches it and then right when it's about to
get to the consequence of the guys drinking problem, he
passes out. So he's just like, man, that movie was

(19:45):
about an awesome alcoholic is uh Yeah, that movie is
aggressively sad. Alright, guys, let's get into one quick story
from the Zeitgeist. And this is uh, We've talked about
it on like the past three episodes, but it is

(20:05):
a uniquely kind of Zeitgeist puncturing event. The Avengers end
Game is like the box office for this is just
really it's an enormous event in France, China, the UK, Korean,
like every country around the world, France and Germany. Uh,
it seems seemed the weirdest to me that it's like

(20:28):
there are German people who are We're like, yes, we
must get the culture iron man. Um. That's terrible and offensive,
and I apologize, but super producer Anna Josnie was just
in Germany and she was talking about how like everyone
in Berlin is like a super hipster, like it's all

(20:49):
one big Williamsburg Brooklyn. Uh, and that it's just funny
to me that they're still like, yeah, but we gotta
find out what happens in the last Avengers move. Um.
But yeah, it's looking like it's going to set all
sorts of records. Uh. I guess it's already said all
sorts of records since we're at the end of the weekend.

(21:10):
Uh So yeah, everybody, literally everybody saw that movie last weekend. Yeah.
I haven't seen it yet. I'm going to see it
probably tonight. So I've just been staying off the internet
because I don't believe in spoilers. So uh, I'm gonna
like live stream right after I see it. Just tell everybody, Um,

(21:31):
but it's I feel like I was trying to think
of another thing where everyone in different countries is all
doing the same thing at the same time, and it's
like it's almost like a corporate sponsored like Christmas or
something like it's like a holiday almost where everybody's doing
the same thing on the same weekend. You just like

(21:51):
don't have many instances of that anymore. The World Cup.
The World Cup, I guess as an example popular Olympic exports,
because not all of them, right, yeah, I mean we're
not all watching World Cup and now Avengers movies. But
fortunately it's in the hands of the good people at
Disney and they would never do anything shady are kind

(22:16):
of yeah, I'll go see it. He's like those stupid Germans. No,
I don't think it's stupid. I just think it's funny
that it's like, I just think it's funny to picture
Germans and like French cineples. Is it enjoyable because they're
dubbing it right, Like when they're watching it, it's getting

(22:36):
dubbed right into German in some cases, sometimes it's subtitles.
Sometimes it's just in English because everybody in other countries
can speak two languages. But how do they do it?
Like I can't watch a foreign film, right, that mean
I gotta read for two hours? Um, all right, we're

(22:57):
gonna take a quick break and we'll be right back.
And we're back. And so Kanye West, you know, has
been doing these things called Sunday Service at his house.

(23:18):
Is it in Calabasas? Okay, like around in his neighborhood
that are like sort of these spiritual Sunday musical performances
that only famous people are allowed to go to. Is
that basically it? Yeah, you gotta have like a connection
or publicist or know somebody to go to these. But
you know, just like the church, it's open to everyone

(23:39):
with a verified check. Is he Jesus or what's going on? So?
I mean I think he's Christian and like believes in
like all the Christian stuff that Christians believe in. I'm
very well versed, as you can tell, um, but I
do think so. Now there's rumors that he is thinking

(24:01):
about leveraging this whole Sunday service thing into a church. Yeah,
so he's talked about starting his own church, and like
what exactly that would be? Like, I guess it wouldn't be.
This is like from a source that it wouldn't be
a traditional three hymn and a sermon thing. Instead, it
would be a way to point people to Jesus through
the arts and through a community of people who love

(24:22):
and care for each other. And also all were past
dales and panton colors um and by his merch if
you've seen Wild Wild Country, like the Sunday service that
they streamed from Coachella definitely had a like rejnish, like
my God, because everybody was wearing the same color. It

(24:43):
wasn't like the red like raspberry color from Wild Wild Country,
but it was this like weird kind of dark muddy
purple pink pastel thing. Um. Dusty row, dusty dusty rose
is what it's called of Um. But I don't know.
I've always like Kanye West is like I just think

(25:08):
there's no limit to what he can achieve, and I
think that's not necessarily a good thing. Like Billy Wayne
Davis has talked on the show before about how he
wants Like just heard Kanye West speaking in an interview
and the hair on the back of his neck stood
up because he was like, Oh, that's a that's a
cult leader or like an authoritarian like Neo Hitler type,

(25:31):
and then he turned around and was like, oh, it's
only Kanye West, thank God. But like maybe this is
like Kanye taking taking it to the next level. It
just seems weird for a guy who calls himself Jesus
to start a church that's not where he's not the guy.
He's like, it's not the Holy Trinity, it's the Holy

(25:53):
Like yeah, yeah, we got Kim Kay is the non
virgin Mary. It's like she's exactly the opposite. No, But
I mean, Kanye can do anything. And also his music
is lit. You get a black church choir behind anything
Honey and his spear rich well wa okay um. They're

(26:17):
mostly singing his music too. And it's crazy how much
of his music just sounds like church music. It was
Stevie Wonder like traditional like hymns and Kanye songs, and
they all sounded amazing together on the on the stream.
And that's the biggest hook for me about church is
like devotion is what we call it a Baptist church.
So we go in and we turn up those Jesus

(26:37):
tunes slapping, you know. So I would go to Kanyge's
church and I bought his three March so I can
make it into heavy. I'm scared, Thank you Jesus. Um. Yeah,
but he did go from his first album talking about
how like he was going to wrap about Jesus even
though it wasn't cool, to changing his name essentially to

(26:59):
becoming Jesus. And also Kanye wraps about everything that he does,
like he'll be like, yeah when you get on Levi
asked wher left his Black Woman for what? But like
everything he's done he was wrapped about before, but like
in a negative connotation. He's like these are bad things.
When he's like, Okay, I'm doing that, yes, and now
I'm gonna do it. Yeah. So I want to join
his cult for sure. Yeah. So another huge personality from

(27:24):
a little further back in history, Britney Spears is back
bit Brittney Bitch nailed it. Uh so she Uh. There
was speculation that she was being held against her will,
particularly by uh. Some former guests on The Daily Zeitgeist
have a podcast about Britney Spears and her Instagram. Barbara

(27:49):
Gray was talking about how on her podcast they kind
of go into Britney Spears Instagram and we're seeing like
weird things that they were interpreting as like maybe she
was being held against her will. She has a weird
legal situation where her parents or her father is in
control of her, I guess legally, and like it's usually

(28:13):
reserved for people who are like vegetables. Yea. So it's
very strange story and it kind of broke through into
the zeitgeist because Britney Spears felt the need to come
out and be like, hey, I'm not being held against
my will. For those of you said so, her exact
quote was just checking in with all of you who

(28:33):
are concerned about me all as well. My family has
been going through a lot of stress and anxiety lately,
so I just needed time to deal and I think
we should just take her at her word. Her sister
also spoke up her dad is legitimately sick. Yeah. Yeah,
but I don't know if you're coming out and saying
I'm not being held against my will, that is not
reassuring to me. Yeah. Also, she wasn't like outside or

(28:56):
anywhere that didn't look like she wasn't being healed. It
is some confirmation that she was free. Yeah. I mean
that statement that I just read was held up on
board and her mouth was taped up. But I think
we just need to take her at her will now.
Uh yeah, So, I mean I think they're like very
complicated things going on there with you know, mental health

(29:18):
and all sorts of things that like we we should
maybe just respect but leave Brittany alone. Or if you're
a super fan and Barbara uh and her co host,
you know, keep keep doing your thing because it's you know,
they they are super like they know more about the

(29:40):
subject than anybody I've ever talked to. Their their podcasts
really interesting. People should check it out anyways, Britney's Graham.
Brittany's Graham is the name of the podcast. Alright, guys,
let's do an outbreak update. First of all, I guess
let's start off talking about her pies, because because the
measles thing is kind of will transition to our next

(30:02):
or so. Coachella happened two weekends ago and last weekend,
uh not this past weekend, and there was apparently so
there's an app called her Alert, which checks the number yep,
it checked the number of reported was going on this

(30:22):
app to make sure nobody's got this downloaded on their
phone to them. At first, I was like, this sounds
like something you're just like pressing a button being like herpes,
and they're like, we've got more reports than ever, like
something like that. But it's actually a website where you
can send the not safe for work images for clinical evaluation,

(30:44):
and receive prescription treatment for the uh, you know, for
when you're diagnosed with actually having herpes um and it's
like in just a couple hours as opposed to like
having to go to the clinic. So um that this
apps as they saw an influx of cases in Coachella Valley,
like right around the two weekends where Coachella was happening, Yeah, Indio, California.

(31:10):
So they say, normally the app dolls out twelve diagnoses
per day, but between April twelfth and April one, spanning
the two weekends of Coachella, they counted up to two
fifty herpies cases per day, which is a lot of Um,
that's a lot of herpies. That's a lot of herpies.

(31:37):
Oh my god, was he that's good question. I don't know.
We can't blame this all on us, Yeah, no, almost,
damn though, Like I know, Coachella is like a free love,
you know, but herpes is expensive Coachella sponsible vouch X

(32:00):
next time to go where you want to go? What's
the ticket? Like a thousand dollars? Like five? Yeah? Too much?
Too bunch of paper. You can stay at home and
get harpies for free. It's crazy because you really are
with a ton of people. It's a perfect place, like

(32:22):
breeding ground for diseases. Right. Yeah, we were trying to
figure out if this was even possible to like catch
it that quickly because we don't know epidemiologist, but we
know somebody who's studying to be an epidemiologist, and she
was like, I think this scansas like maybe or like
this might be fake because uh, it's like a multiple

(32:47):
incident transmission like disease STDs generally are, and so you
would you would have to be having just a tremendous
amount of sex for uh, for that to be happening. It,
I mean, their methods for diagnosing a spike being her alert.
I don't, I don't know. I don't know what to

(33:08):
tell you. It seems like that was actually happening. So
and Lacy, you were talking about before we started recording.
You were talking about the scam community around Coachella, which
I found pretty interesting. Absolutely, um festivals are breeding grounds
for scams, and there's its festival season. As the summer comes,
you know what I mean, we're gonna wear less, We're

(33:28):
gonna go out more UM and everyone should be aware.
Like when you're at concert andus, especially like Coachella one,
there's a massive amount of people and you're switching, you know,
stages and going and pushing up against each other trying
to get like the best view. And there are people
who literally get to get for Coachella specifically to rob people.
So like, oh, you're drunk and your phone is sitting

(33:49):
down next to you in the grass, you look over
is gone. You're walking through a crowd. I was walking
through a crowd and there were two girls and they
were speaking Spanish, which is America. Don't ever speak span
shoud think people don't understand what you're saying. So they
were speaking about in a different direction. I thought you
were doing it's America speaking English. Now it's America. We

(34:14):
speak in several languages, okay, s A p Probably the
safest place to assume that the people around you don't
speak multiple langage Spanish Okay, I mean you sound fluent Spanish.
Your first language, that's my second, but I do speak.
And so they were talking about stealing and they rubbed

(34:34):
up against me and I felt my bag unzipping and
I grabbed it and I start cursing about his span.
I was like, what the hell but this, But you're
going by imagine being bodied body and crowds like pickpocketers
can do that kind of ship like in European countries
or wherever, just walking past you. If you physically are
being touched by so many people and you're intoxicated, it's
so easy to get guys. So just like when you

(34:55):
go to festivals, guys like have those you know, fanny
packs are great, anything that you can put in front
of you where you can see and you know, like
make sure that you're not being robbed. Also, don't sit
your ship down. Everyone goes to concerts and it's like
free love. Come on now, we live in America. Yeah,
you gotta put that fannie pack over your pussy so
you don't get that is the lesson. Guys, put those

(35:16):
bandanas over your genitals. That's right, Yeah, that's what you
know how the people at Coachell are always wear in
the bandanna, like from the nose down maybe they were
covering up an outbreak on UM. But the other big
outbreak that is less fun to talk about is there's
a measles outbreak that you know, we've talked in the

(35:37):
past about how it was happening a lot around orthodox
communities in New York and Brooklyn and some places like
a little further upstate, but now it has arrived in
Los Angeles yea UM and particularly there was somebody with
measles at l A X and on U C l

(35:59):
AS campus. A measles infected student went to class in
the library and they had to quarantine like over a
hundred kids and uh, they're like still eighty of them
as of this recording are still being quarantined. UM. So
so this measle student went to class and the library.

(36:20):
If I was at U C l A, I wouldn't
to cause it because I don't go to class and
iary life. Measles ain't made it to my norm. It's
at his house party. So all the people that they
quarantined weren't vaccinated, right, So there they quarantined these students
and then the students have to prove they were vaccinated
and then they get let out basically and they also, yeah,

(36:42):
it's a it's weird, but um, I truly blame Jenny
McCarthy for all of this. Yeah, I mean it is
the It is the fact that they've sort of sucked
up our herd immunity and in two thousand it was
gone and now it is back. She is detrimental to
the community. Like, really, we need to lock her up,

(37:02):
so you got to go to jail. Something that I
hadn't like really thought about since this Musle's outbreak that
our writer Jam McNabb was pointing out is that our
president is actually a anti vax or. If you look
at his social media, he has been trying to promote

(37:24):
a link between autism and vaccines for years. He recently
came out and said this is really going around now
they have to get their shots, and that was great.
But people were like, oh, thank god, because he has
in the past talked about how Baron they only give
him one shot at a time with months in between.
Because so this is anti vax are light. This is

(37:46):
a belief that the vaccines themselves don't cause autism, but
getting all the vaccines at once causes autism, which is
not true. But it's uh like a way for people
to be like, Look, I'm not an anti vaxer. I
don't think the vaccines cause autism. It's just all of
them at once is too much. These needles are too
cruel to these children. Um and there, So he tweeted

(38:10):
in two thousand twelve, massive combined inoculations to small children
is the cause for big increase in autism. And in
two thousand fourteen, healthy young child goes to dr gets
pumped with massive shot of many vaccines, doesn't feel good
and changes autism and changes autism, many catches autism, many

(38:33):
such cases exclamation point. Aren't you so curious what his
theory is based on? Like? Do you think it's eric? Right? Well,
I think it's I went to Coachella and I caught autists.
Like what yeah, so I think there's like all sorts
of All you have to do to find out what

(38:54):
it's based on is just go on Amazon and search
autism because you're gonna get all sorts of terrible literature
that is, um not scientific. There's just Google, uh Amazon, Like,
there's all sorts of antivaccor ship is there all the
money in being an antivaccer? Is there? Like anything? Gain?

(39:15):
No I think it's just the idea of like knowing
the truth and being And I think it's also people
whose children have autism and they want like an explanation,
and you know, having an explanation feels better than not
having an explanation, didn't you say, Bill Gates was somehow Yeah,
So this is the other thing. So Bill Gates has

(39:38):
had a few quotes about the President that are memorable.
One that he spoke to the President and he twice
confused HIV and hp d UM. But so the reason
they were talking about those diseases and uh was because
Bill Gates was talking to him about vaccinations. And basically
Bill Gates had heard what Donald Trump was saying, like

(40:00):
all this crazy shit about vaccines causing autism, and so
he tried to like get in front of him to
like consult with him ahead of his presidency to stop
him from doing things. Because Trump was said that he
was meeting with a chair of a commission on vaccine
safety and then said, no, we're not doing anything with vaccines,

(40:23):
were just considering forming a commission on autism. So it
was basically he was admitting there was a commission that
was going to try and connect vaccines and autism. One
of the Kennedy's is like tied in this and apparently
is the person who's in the president's here. Uh. I
think it's Robert Kennedy Jr. Is anti vaxer, who is yeah,

(40:43):
who is like big in Washington circles and is the
one who's telling the president to like look into the connection.
As much misfortunate that has fallen upon the Kennedy family
in terms of death, you would think they would be
doing everything to try to stay alive. Yeah, but you know,
it's shout out to Bill Gates. He took a break
from control alt and elite to school our president. Yeah.

(41:09):
So he claims the first time he met Trump that
Trump knew a quote scary amount about Gates's daughter's physical appearance.
Oh loud, of course. He was like, yeah, Melinda was
not too crazy about that. But yeah. So I'm assuming
Trump was like, your daughter is very beautiful. She's just
like yeah, yeah, because that's like the ultimate compliment he

(41:35):
can think of, is like talking about how hot your
daughter is. Um, well, that's all she's good for. I'd
love to have sex with you exactly. Lucky man. Uh,
It's that's that's kind of the weirdest part of it.
And then Gates just convinced him that vaccines don't cause autism. Um,
but so it sounds like no. So yeah, so he's

(42:00):
been quiet about it lately. Uh and you know, recently
came out and said you have to get the shot
the shot. So it seems like he might have succeeded
and at least telling him to shut the funk up. Well,
he's president. I think Bill Gates was like, how did
this will get my number? Hey? Bill, I'm sure he
never would have been caught dead in a room with him.

(42:22):
And then he found out that he was president and
basically threw his body in front of you know, and
anything he was trying to do. Yeah, he's Bill Gates
is trying to do good, doing his best. All right, guys,
let's take one more quick break and we'll be right back.

(42:50):
And we're back, and uh, for this last section, I
just wanted to talk about what we're calling we already
Live in Black Mirror update. Uh, the we already live
in black Mirror update, because so I've just been hearing
a lot of people talk about, um, you know, anecdotal
stuff about people uh having a thought or having a

(43:14):
conversation that they that their phone then like puts an
ad up that is like where that conversation was headed.
Or they have a thought that they don't even say
out loud, and then a ad is like put in
front of them for the thing. Yeah, have you have
you had that experience? Yeah? And the ads are normally

(43:35):
very shady. Um, I don't appreciate it. Like I've been
getting a lot of ads for this one book that's
like stop getting played by men all in love? And
I was like this, I got my mom getting played
Like are they are they looking at my text messages?
Like can they see my text? And this like girl,
he now working labies he gonna said for three weeks

(43:56):
in a row about his book, but I haven't said
anything about man. Maybe because I downloaded some dating apps.
They were like because something happened, but I never said anything.
In the egg kept popping up over and over. Yeah.
So there was this article in NBC that was talking
about it. Interviewed this guy who his claim to fame

(44:17):
is that he invented the eternal scroll. Like you know
how you used to have pageantate articles. He invented the
just constantly scrolling thing. And then he realized that by
doing that, he was basically wasting the equivalent of like
two hundred thousand human lifetimes every day like on the
planet because of like this addictive scrolling thing that he

(44:42):
had done. But he was pointing out that we worry
about privacy, uh and like you know, people are going
to find out our credit card information, they're going to
find out our social security and you don't have to
worry about that stuff, so just share it with uh
no I with this man. But he was saying the

(45:05):
thing that we need to be worried about his data
and like the stuff that we voluntarily give up. They're
just creating this basically digital version of you that is
getting more and more detailed and more and more like
psychologically accurate basically with everything that you do online. Um,
and it's just the as recently as ten years ago,

(45:28):
the way people found out what we were watching was
by asking them to like fill out a form trying
to like remember what you watched and when you watched it. Yeah,
neils something. And now we have smart TVs and they
can see like everything, They can see the movie that
you hovered over for like a split second, so they
know that like you were considering that before you moved

(45:50):
on to, uh watching whatever the funk you watch. Hey,
I don't know you meant, uh, but uh. And then
our phones are g PS enabled tracking devices that can
you know, listen to what we say. Uh. There's Alexa
is now you know, constantly listening, and there's a team

(46:11):
there's a team of like people in and there's a
team of engineers in Romania who are just like listening
to Alexa recordings to try and learn about like what
people are searching for. And like, I don't know specifically
how they're choosing who to listen to, but they've specifically
said that they've heard like people arguing, they've heard like

(46:33):
a child crying for help, and they're like, what do
we do when we hear just And they've also they
said they heard a sexual assault and brought it to Amazon,
and Amazon was like, Amazon's policy is to not interfere
in such situations. I don't know about So Amazon, y'all,
y'all gonna take our information so that you can make money,
but you're not gonna help us. But yeah, and they're

(46:56):
just for free. That doesn't seem like a good deal. Yeah,
And they're getting so good at like figuring out what
our motivations are and what our thoughts are and what
our interests are that we're like a lot of people
are pointing out that you're essentially giving up your autonomy
to corporations because they're able to like predict like your

(47:19):
behavior and like your interests and they basically know more
about you than you know about yourself. Yeah, and that's
like a control thing to UM. When I was in
college and I was taking marketing classes, um, the psychology
behind advertisement, Like we were told, like, if you don't
want to be controlled by consumption, like never sign up
for email lists whenever you buy anything in a store

(47:42):
and never signed up because you always want to purchase
things on your own volition and because you want something,
not because it was presented to you. And we used
to have mechanisms to be able to avoid unnecessary advertisement
that kind of pollutes your brain. But now, like if
you get on any free app, it's not free. You
get on Instagram, you're seeing ads. You get on face Book,
you're seeing ads. You get on the Internet, you click
on a article, you're seeing ads, And so now you're

(48:04):
being sold to and even more specifically to you all
the time, and that does influence your brain and influences
your purchasing decisions. Do you think if like you had
to pay for Gmail or whatever, would you rather pay
than have them like have access to all your emails? Yeah,
that's another that's another huge data input is they read

(48:25):
all your emails. They have access to everything you're emailing.
Uh they being Google, but I mean they you know,
trade and share and sell information back and forth, so
that they're all sharing this massive composite of you. That's
like a little you know, simulation. I don't know. I
feel like I, in theory, would rather pay for Gmail

(48:50):
than have them have access to everything I'm thinking and
emailing about. At the same time, like I never pay
for apps that are costs more than like a dollar
ninety nine and even then not really. Um so it
is I mean in that respect though, like it does
disadvantage people who you know, don't have as much money

(49:14):
because it's like, well, these are the tools that are
just par for the course. It's like how you do
things now in the in the modern world, Like you
have to have email, and if you don't want to
pay for it, you have to have Gmail or uh
yaho are hot mail. You know, uh, if you're really
old in my email that I'm afraid of people saying
it's just so much information. Remember when that Sony hack

(49:37):
happened and that woman the president of Sony was like
using using dye on her pubic hair, and like that
was one of the things that came out. I did
not know that. Actually, well, you know you need to
email that to people, right, So what number Claire should

(49:58):
I give him? A pub right? C. C. I'm just
saying there's probably stuff in your email that like you
don't even you don't think it's embarrassing until somebody like
puts it on a website and you're like, oh, ship,
that is crazy embarrassing. I don't think I've ever sent
an email without the thought of like what I send
this if everybody had access? Yeah, I don't think about it.

(50:21):
I think that. Yeah. I also send emails to myself
with like crazy notes and thoughts that I have, so
I send texts to myself. I don't do emails, though,
but switch it up. Yeah. Yeah, there's nothing to say
that they're now listen text messages everything exactly. Yeah, they

(50:44):
can definitely get access to those chips. I've never even
taken like nudes because I was like always concerned about
things popping up. Yeah. I don't know if it's generational
or what, but I've never taken a dick pick. People
are like, send me a pick. I'll send them pick
from my Instagram, or I'll draw a picture of my
books and send it to the I've been in the

(51:09):
moment before and sent some stuff that I'm like, oh God,
I wish no one ever had that. Yeah. Yeah, Also
they probably got rid of it. Don't worry about it.
Guys are always good about that. I got I So
I checked my spam folder recently. I had a black
mare moment um and there was like a ransom for

(51:31):
some porn that I was telling you guys about this
before we started, but someone had emailed me and they
were like, we know your password. We saw you were
watching porn on this site on this date or whatever,
and we're going to send it to the five most
frequently emailed people in your contact list if you don't
pay dollars. And here's the thing. They had my password,

(51:55):
an old password of mine. So I legitimately for a second,
was like, this is real. Was it a porn site?
You have been to. I don't think they listed the Yeah,
I think they just said like porn site. I think
they would have listed if they probably would have listed it.
But they had my password. That was the creepy part.
An old password, right, that's the only reason. If it

(52:17):
would have been a current password, I would have been
like immediately changing my password, like maybe paying them the
fourteen like out on the street per snatching to get Yeah,
because if they got a video from the computer, that's
not a good angle. Oh god, um, but they yeah,
they were. I guess one of one of the quotes

(52:39):
is I get that it's creepy to imagine that they
listen to your conversations like three smartphones, your smart speakers,
But isn't it more creepy that they can predict what
you're talking about without listening in it's this little model
of you. You are super predictable to these platforms. It's
about persuasion and prediction, not privacy. Yeah, like just thinking
about like they probably know you are hungry ten seconds

(53:01):
before your stomach tells your brain you're hungry, and you
know it's like they is not a is not a person.
It's like an algorithmic learning thing. So I used to
take solace in that, but now I'm like that, it
doesn't matter. They're not like weaponizing this information against you.
They're just taking over autonomy. They're they're taking away your

(53:26):
free will essentially, and which is way more scary. Yeah,
they're so. Another terrifying hypothetical is health insurance, which if
you've ever had like a condition that makes them not
want to cover you or less likely to give you
life insurance or whatever. Jack brought this on yourself. Why

(53:48):
were you on her alert? So exactly right. So, a
recent joint venture announced by Apple and the insurance giant
ETNA will reward customers who agree to wear an Apple
Watch with nudges towards good health practices, and the company
has promised to safeguard individual privacy, but at the same time,

(54:12):
they're going to know everything. It just gives you every
that gives you access to if that heart rate is trash,
if they don't see you going to the gym, you know,
you want to get dropped from your health. That's crazy.
I guess I got Apple watched for that. I had
to put it on a baby, like a fresh healthy baby.
Uh the but yeah, I mean, think about like the

(54:35):
heart rate could tell them like who you have a
crush on? Or like who, like what something that makes
you nervous when people bring it up, and like they'll
be like, your deepest, darkest secret is about this subject.
Are you doing cocaine regularly? Y? Um yeah that that

(54:56):
was from a Black Mirror episode in particular, but um yeah.
And then there's so they're like I was mentioning, there's
this Amazon office that doesn't have an Amazon sign on
the outside. It's in this crumbling, crumbling part of a
town in Bucharest, top three floors of this Romanian building
called Global Worth. And these Romanian engineers review and listening

(55:22):
on people's most personal moments, like a woman singing badly
off key in the shower, child screaming for help. And yeah,
they basically email each other clips of us being idiots
and just to like relieve stress. Uh yeah, I don't know.
We're fucked. We are fucked. Somebody people need to legislate

(55:46):
this stuff then we don't have to worry about it. Right.
I feel like they're better at that and the European
Union then because they're not driven as hard by capitalism
as we are. We'll sell anything I mean want to
look at the n r A. The n r A
has scholarships. In fact, that Parkland shooter had one. Yeah, yeah,

(56:07):
she was a marksman, like he learned he was learning
how to shoot. Yeah. So it's like but they like
covered it up and try to act like it wasn't
the case. But it's like it's not. We're selling our lives.
We're all just hoping that we're not Next America. Thing
with your free Gmail is like you are selling your
life a little bit, right, Yeah, if you're getting something

(56:30):
for free, you're the product. That's the thing we always
say here on the Daily ze Geist. Well, guys, it's
been a pleasure having both of you. Courtney, where can
people find you and follow you? Check out my podcast
Private Parts Unknown, I host with Sophia. Alexandra has been
on the show a bunch. She's rad um And we're

(56:53):
dropping our Helsinki episodes now, which is dope And yeah,
I'm on the internets at Courtney kosak Ko c A K.
Can you talk about like what is interesting about Helsinki
in terms of relationships over there? Like, oh my god,
Helsinki is so interested. So we're doing like a bunch
of parts to this series, but uh, SNA culture is

(57:16):
really dope over there. It's super culture. It's we are dry.
Uh what do you mean, you know, like the wets
on like steam or like steamers. They're all They're all steamy,
aren't they. Tauna are the dry ones? Yeah, Sana Saana. Anyway,
they're super feminist and uh, it's having an interesting impact

(57:38):
on masculinity, right. That was like the most interesting thing
we found. It's like, yes, they're way more feminist and advanced.
They do not want men paying for their dates over
there anything like that, but the dudes are like, what
the fund do we do? Yeah? And is there a
tweet you've been enjoying? Sophia actually tweeted last night from

(57:59):
the Bikini kill A concert and she was like, Yo,
why is every woman at the Bikini Kills show so fuckable?
And every man is a swamp thing? And then she
tweeted again a follow up and she spelled harem with
three RS because I ever heard that before, harem with
like just all the rs in a row. Yeah, anyway,

(58:20):
I had to look that up. But she wasn't the
only one on the internet. It was just bizarre shout
out Sophia. Yeah. Uh, lazy. Yeah, it's been wonderful having you.
Where can people find you? Oh, you can find me
on the internets at D I V A l A
c I on all platforms. Um. If you haven't listened

(58:41):
to my podcast Scam Goddess, it's on earwoof Prisons and
also Florida Girls. I have finally a release date for
the television show that I'm in. Um, it's gonna come
out July tenth on Pop, which is formerly the TV
Guy channel, and then it'll be on a streaming platform.
I don't have that info yet. UM. As always, if
you went Los Angeles, see you girl. I think you'll
see the theater every week. UM. And you know, send

(59:04):
me your Social Security numbers. I can verify it. That's
so nice of you to Uh. And is there a
tweet you've been enjoying? Oh? Yeah, here we go the
millennial version of two point five kids and a picket, fences,
six outsplants, and no roommates. And I'm currently like about

(59:27):
living about to live by myself. So I'm like, oh,
I made it. That's it. A couple of tweets I've
been enjoying. Uh. So Donald Trump tweeted, welcome to the race,
Sleepy Joe, I only hope you have the intelligence, long
and doubt to wage a successful primary campaign. It will
be nasty. You will be dealing with people who truly

(59:48):
have some very sick and demented ideas. But if you
make it, I will see you at the starting game.
And Mike Dreppor tweeted, this genuinely sounds like the start
of a very bad D and D game. I was
gonna say a very bad role playing uh. And then
Megan Gaily tweeted one year, I watched the NFL Draft

(01:00:09):
at a bar. There was a man dressed in head
to toe Eagles gear and when the Eagles were on
the clock, he picked up an Eagle's helmet phone and
pretended to make the pick. He's my favorite comedian. I
really like that bit. That is a good sports bar
a bit. You can find me on Twitter at Jack
Underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily

(01:00:29):
zi Ice. We're at the Daily Zigeist on Instagram. We
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We link off to the information that we talked about
in today's episode as well as the song we ride
out on. Uh. Super producer an A Hosnier. This thing on, UM,

(01:00:52):
I am going to recommend a song by this artist
who I've really been enjoying recently. And her name is
am A Lou And this is another song um in
the spirit of Lacy getting these asks for these books
about men being trash. So this song is all about
that is called not Always, So check it out. It's

(01:01:13):
really good. She's got a great voice and her future
is looking for right. Just I love her. Please listen
to her and blow her up. She's gotten the hosny agglom.
Her kid looking right. All right, We're gonna ride out
on that. We will be back tomorrow because it is
a daily podcast and we'll talk to you guys and baby,

(01:01:35):
thanks a lot better you could it be better for
a chat a walk out for you when you're wrong?
It was annoying. It was annoying. They don't get my vibe.

(01:02:01):
It is road Safe trying to call me down. I
will Road said