Joker No Joke? Netflix’s $160 Million Dollar Scorsese Movie 8.29.19

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season nine, episode four
of j Le's Eight Guys, a production of I Heart Radio.
This is a podcast where we take a deep dive
into America's shared consciousness and say, officially, off the top,
fuck Coke Industries and fuck Fox News. It's Thursday, August nine, tea.

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My name is Jack O'Brien, ak Bigley, Bigley big Ley.
Can't you see sometimes your tweets just cafe fae me
and I just love your fashy ways. I guess that's
why I'm broking your social circles. So paid uh, ellipsies,
I'm drunk. That's courtesy of Stringy Magoo, and I'm trilled

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to be joined as always by my co host, Mr
Miles MGB Cushion down on the Hottest lad I'll tell
your mother, y'all gets I'll go pound. It's like I'll
do it now. I'm swishing mounds and if you ain't,
that's good. You simply must go now. Okay, Uh, there
wasn't a beat because, truth be told, we're actually in

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a very secret location today. We're in the hotel suite
of our guests, which will reveal later. But our guests
was a very big act invited us to their hotel room, said, look,
I can't make the show, but if you guys come
up to my suite right we can get this thing going.
So I don't have the music right now. That's my explanations.
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case tried Kang. Thank you for that one. Thanks everybody

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who keeps sending the missy elliot a kas And we'll
have a new challenge for next week. Tomorrow you said yesterday, man,
I hope that missed me and her stuff isn't true. Yeah,
she seems like a nice gotta she's got a bright
future ahead of her. Yeah. Yeah, well, I guess we
can reveal it now. We're thrilled to be joined by
our third guest, uh, the touring comedian Mr Nick that

(01:45):
rack Do I need a song after? Yes, I could
try to do a song. My name is Nick V
and I rock the part apart from more Burt Burt
from that was sent to me by my mom. Wow. Yeah,
I thought it was a little bit mature, but you know, hey,
you'm not gonna that would be weird if you farted
and it was a burb sound like you lifted your

(02:08):
legs for food. Yeah, what's just farting? That's cool? That
which movie grosser that are farting out of your mouth? Yeah,
people are gettart sands with their mouths. It doesn't Yeah,
it doesn't much of a stretch, but if you could,
it doesn't much of a stretch for me either, Just

(02:31):
like guttural burpy from your butt, Like yeah, because there's
vocal cords, Like it applies the presence of vocal collecting
your ass to get the resonance, like you have your
lungs obviously for a birth, but like, what's that void
in your body? I hope there's still Like news junkies
who listened to the show was like, where did this
is this man? What happened to these guys? Second? Right,

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all right, I want to talk about more serious conversation. Well,
these are the things that come up and we entertain
them out of my ass. All right, Nick, we're going
to get to know you a little bit better in
a moment. First, we're gonna tell our listeners a few
of the things we're talking about, such as the new

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Joker trailer. We're gonna talk about where the president is
that and just how he's thinking about the election, the
latest polling in the Democratic side of the race. Uh,
and just all sorts of ship today and Becky KFC

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all the hits. But first, Nick, we like to task
our guess. What's something from your search history that's revealing
about who you are? Um? I just looked up the
and edema I just want to be and apparently I've
got that an enema confused, right? Uh. The etymology of defenestration,

(04:03):
which sounds like a Smashing Pumpkins album. Yeah, defenestration, I was,
I don't know, I came up. I don't know for
some reason I came across. I was just thinking about
defenestration of wondering if it was common knowledge that it was,
you know, throwing somebody out of window. It feels like
it's always a word that people say when they're trying
to part of somebody. With words like if you do

(04:23):
an improv show, you guess suggestions, there's always that. Yeah, yeah,
you've heard of it too. You know they think they're
gonna just, you know, blow your mind. Yeah, defenstration sounds
like it should be to me. My brain always wants
it to be like somebody getting their stomach cut open.

(04:44):
Is that defenstration. Yeah, yeah, I think it's probably because
it has like some of the same valves as evisceration.
But yeah, it seems like it needs to be way
more intense than right, well, I guess getting thrown out
of windows pretty intense depending on what the window was. Um,
was it a brand Stark type situation? Right, because fucking

(05:04):
change a lot for you. Would that even be considered
defenestration because he was just kind of pushed backwards, right,
he was a yeah, and he was being a creep
to be honest, I know, he was just watching people
have sexted together. Brand really weird if it cuts to

(05:25):
him and he's like, oh yeah, and then afterwards like
Ned starts like what then is going on? Man? What
were you doing? Give it to her man as he's
fallen to right. Yeah, anyway, so what is the enimal? Well? Uh,

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what's funny? Is it? Like? It? It seems to First
of all, I thought it'd be like this crazy story
because I'd come across this thing called the Defenstration of Prague,
which apparently in Prague there was these three three times
defenistration happened, and it was the equivalent of like overthrowing
some sort of like government or higher up. So if
it seems to be um, that's what I got out

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of it. Um. And I thought, I thought, oh, maybe
it's off the Bobby defeni strate. You know, I don't
know there's bobbies back there, you know, like Richard the defendant. Yeah,
it's just it's just it's not because it's such a
crazy word. How does it mean that it's not that
crazy means wind window and means push out of some Yeah,

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so it's not as crazy of a story as I
was hoping to be. But I just was like looking
at like pictures of where apparently the first recorded defenstrations were,
and it's interesting. I was like, oh, I guess there
wasn't like it was. It looks like this tower. It's
like this five story tower in Prague. And I was like, oh,
I guess there wasn't tall buildings at one point, and

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then the first and then they finally had the first
tall building, like you can die, they use it to murder. Second,
because the first story defenestration is not that's just an inconvenience, Yeah, right, exactly. More,
that's called sneaking out of a house when your girlfriend's
dad gets home, right, but yeah, full on I guess
that's the other thing. It's like whoa gravity huh. Yeah, Like, hey,

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the higher the window, like the gnarlier the impact when
I'm seeing we could really, yeah, you could really and
everyone I was like, a five story window, do you
everyone they pushed out died? I thought, um, you know,
it was just all depends on highland, I think, yeah, yeah,
I don't think because no one had fallen out of
the window before, so no one how to do it right. Yeah,
you gotta roll. You gotta watch in those parkour videos,

(07:34):
those guys. Uh, some of the drops those guys take
I'm pretty impressed with. Yeah, they go out of stories.
I don't know if they're full on five story in it,
but like there's some like gnarly thirty ft drops I
see people like like roll out of and you're like
my ankles shattered, like watching the video and I'm like,
I wonder, yeah, I wonder if the saying don't throw
the baby out with the bathwater was just kind of

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like light vice, like you don't want to do that
because it's incond you have to go get the baby,
instead of being like the baby is gonna die, ye,
now remember, guys, you're not gonna want to. I thought
that somebody survived the defenistration of Prug because they landed
in horseship, But that might be a different defenistry maybe.

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I I only read about the first defenistration and I
stopped reading after. That's one of my you know, so
they're just it's one of my favorite details that were
raised from history is that everything was covered in ship,
either horseshit or human ship. Right, People died from being
swept away in rivers of ship back in history, like

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all the time, I mean people, you know, right now,
everyone's always like this is the worst it's ever been,
and things are very bad right now. But I sometimes
think about it's not just there's not just ship everywhere.
That was I think a little bit worse. If you
want to brighten your day, yeah, we think yourself back
to the dark ages. There's arm thinking, but better technolog right,

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what is something you think is overrated? Boycotts? Boycott, It's
just a new boycott every week. Now. I was making
fun of the Jimmy Jones boycott because there's a Jimmy
John John boycott because well, some some photos surfaced from
three um is that really what it's from. The elephant

(09:23):
one was from there's a big hunting photos, right, that's
the Jimmy Johns And you know, it's just we're we're
a culture that just digs up, you know, like old
things with people. Now I understand people. I think the
big game hunting is stupid and I think those people
are monsters. But I just thought it was I just
thought it was funny. And there's there's probably been more
pictures since then. There's a very weird picture of him,

(09:44):
like naked humping a shark that he's killed, and it's
very very disturbing. Canceled him for that one, but I
just think it's funny that he His service is a
dead animal store, Right, you go and buy dead animals
and eat them, and people are like, I'm not I've
had enough you killed animals. Well, I'm not gonna eat
your dead animals anymore. You're shaved animals, deliciously seasoned shaved

(10:09):
animal flesh. Yeah, I guess that's the that's the funny thing,
right now. That Twitter and you know, cancel culture have
like created just an onslaught of boycotts. Like I didn't
even know Olive Garden was getting boycott until yesterday when
we were talking about it on the show and who's
eating an olive garden? I want to boycott diarrhea. I
want to be like I heard diarrhea donated to the

(10:29):
Repblican Party, so I have no more diarrhea. Hashtago. They're
boycotting things that like, you're not even doing. I don't
know if the people going in and out and the
people going to Equinox are not the same people. You know,
they're not You're not, um people boycotting Fox News. You're
not watching Fox News anyway? Right? Well, I think that
what the pressure needs to be. I think, like especially

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with Fox, I think it is good to lean on
those advertisers because they're essentially the ones putting the money
up to platform like this terrible hate speech and somebody
did pull out of Tucker Carlson. I think this past weeks. Yeah, Dell, Yeah, yeah,
so that I mean, you know, I I but it's
like it's just it's just I think it's obnoxious when
it's every single thing, and it's also like, um, you

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know they found like I don't know, you if you
look at every everything is tainted. You know, people are
tweeting some their Apple phones that you know that that's
you know, you're tweeting from a phone or you're using
Facebook that donated to you know, everyone involved in every
company seems to have donated to something that you don't
like or done something you don't like. So you just

(11:32):
if you really to be like, well, I pick these,
I'm gonna boy cut these and not these other ones.
It's sort of like you gotta boycott. You can't do
anything terribly, like the only solution is to completely remove
yourself from the capitalist system. But like sort of yeah,
but then how do you survive? Like do you have
a fucking you know, like you become a yeoman farmer
and we're homespun clothing. Maybe I'm not good on a loom,

(11:54):
but I'll try. But also the looms clean. But these
jerseys ain't gonna weave themselves, you know what I mean.
Let's that's that's for sure. It's a great country song
to themselves. Man. The guy humping the shark uh at
least the owner of Jimmy Johns is claiming it's not him.

(12:15):
It doesn't really look like him necessarily. It's also been
speculated that it is jim mclewaine, the coach of Florida Football.
He has denied it as well. Uh, the Shark is like,
that's definitely me, that's definitely mean. Are they going to
boycott Florida football? Doubt? See, this is what I hate

(12:39):
to you. You have all these pictures circling you don't
know if it's even real or not, you know. And
also like I was looking it up and like each
I was just thinking, like, okay, so you're gonna boycott
all these like um these franchises where these like people
like take these loans out, you know, and they franchise
the store. They're trying to make money. They have a

(12:59):
fan like they didn't do anything wrong. Jimmy John himself,
if that is his name, he only gets I think
it was six Okay, someone's skeptical. You're like, we never know,
but you're gonna believe that's not his name. Okay, and
it's actually Jimmy Jonathan. Okay, James Jonathan, but that's not

(13:21):
gonna sell. But like he only takes six percent of
all these of every story. So if you're if you're
you're really screwing over these franchise owners and these people
that aren't rich or you know, are just trying to
trying to have an American name, and I don't know,
it feels like you're you're you're punishing the wrong people.
I think is right now to people feel particularly powerless
over like the state of things in the country and

(13:43):
like society, so like in these weird ways. That's the
way people are exercising power. And I think it's coming
from the right place, but it's not necessarily the best
use of it or the most effective use of it.
And yeah, but I but I also understand why people
are so desperate to find things to latch on and
be like yep, and that's the way I can sort
of take my power back because right now I'm looking

(14:04):
at everything that's happening with the government or whatever, like
there isn't I have to wait till November to vote.
It's like so fucking canceled Olive Garden now. Then, yeah,
it is we feel powerless that it feels like you're
doing something. Um oftentimes it's counter productive. I mean I
know when um, like like when the Nike boycott happened,
Nike had they sold more shoes that quarter than they

(14:26):
did because it's like people, the people were boycotted, so
you know, I think the right boycotted it, so the
left was like, well, screw that, We're gonna buy even
more in supports even more so. It actually if they
had not boycotted, you know, done is good. Yeah. I
think boycott's on the right are actually counterproductive for they
typically they make the brand look cool, Yeah, sold way more.

(14:51):
It's actually a great strategy for a product to like
go super left wing. That's why I mean, have the
right BOYCOTTSA and the Nike you know, signed Colin Kaepernick
to and like made him the spokesperson of their company.
Probably not out of sheer altruism, No, we yeah, we
definitely brought that right. They are savvy business sprit right, Yeah.

(15:13):
They this is going to piss off Trump supporters, the
company that famously like wouldn't build uh, you know, a
factory in Flint, Michigan, and that Michael Moore documentary and
all of a sudden, they're good people. I don't know
as I'm saying. And what is something you think is underrated?
I think the amish I was thinking about it and

(15:35):
go off. I just I think the I think it's underrated,
and I think we kind of uh danced danced near
it a second ago with with the Loom, you know,
like it's it's it's simpler, I was the no technology
thing is like, for instance, I did a show the
other night and my phone's like froze up during the

(15:57):
show and I needed it for this thing, and or
you know, I'm so much technology. I'm on the phone
with this. Like you know, when their wagon wheel breaks,
they never have to be on hold with customer service
for an hour trying to figure out why the wagon
wheel doesn't work exactly, like time to fix the fucking wheel. Yeah,
and it's simple enough, You're not like, because so many

(16:17):
times you have everything technology, like okay, I did it,
I did all the things, why is it still not working?
You know, and you start losing your mind and it's
like the wagon wheel it's broken, Well, that's it's because
it's in pieces, or it's on fire, or you know,
it needs to be reinforced. Yeah, yeah, and we go
on amish, Yeah, let's do it. Yeah. I think that's
not smart business decision. Shouting out the window. That's the podcast,

(16:43):
just screaming at the top of your lungs. The Barn
Raisings are the thing that's always impressed me about the
Amish that they'll just have like everybody come to a
field to build a barn in like a weekend. Yeah,
and it will be done by the end of the weekend.
Just everybody builds it. I mean based on the TV show,
was it breaking, I'm not sure whatever, it's always interesting
to people who though that show is absurd and stage

(17:05):
but hilarious. But like the people who are like leaving,
it's kind of interesting when you see the people who
get hitch so hard to be like everything is like
like you know, modern society has been mothered so hard
that like I can't help but to go there. But
maybe we're like reverse Amishing it. We're like, dude, I'm
tired of this modern world. Yeah, I think me. I

(17:26):
can't grow a beard when Amish kids at sixteen do
their rum springer and like come and live in our world,
our sixteen year old should have to go live Amish. Yeah. Yeah,
anyone who lives out in near Amish country let us know,
you know people listen. Yeah, well you know I know
people people out there in Amish. You know p Star
Boy who was smoking out Amishing Amish. So if you're

(17:51):
out in amious big goings. Let us know what a
fucking genius that was. It's just like video this dude
smoking a blunt like in a and field and he's
like smoking big Donks in Amish and he just keeps
saying and he's like hitting this blunt. He's like gang.
At the end, it's like over, he's dead. Because I was.

(18:13):
He became like kind of an internet celebrity meme guy.
And then when he died, people like the big Donks
in Amagh. Dude died get some kind of like long complex,
some kind of respiratory complications. That sucks because that's completely
related to I don't know, man, I don't want to speculate,
because then I have to think about my own blunt smoking,
you know, and then what am I going to die
from it? I mean, but you don't have a lung

(18:36):
situation that your brand is directly under. I don't have
a lung situation that positive thinking can't hear. That's right,
that's what we've always said. You can also switch to
edible blunts. Yeah, that's way better than if your lungs
are bad. I roll up. They're like damn hell yeah,
don't Yeah, what is a myth. What's something people think

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it's true? You know, to ghosts? Okay, ghosts, just give
me a break, is it now? Are you someone who
has been just led on by ghosts or for so
long you're like, you know what, I tried, and I'm
just done. I done with you. It's one of these
things where I just I don't get why people buy
into it so hard or believe it. It's just it's

(19:23):
one of these things that just as they're telling me
the story, the story itself doesn't make sense. If you
have you ever heard this, Okay, have you ever heard this?
There's like, I don't know if it's like a wive's
tale or rumor have you ever heard the story about
the person dog sitting and and the dog dies and
the family tells them, okay, well you can put the
dog in the suitcase and take it to this place

(19:44):
and drop it off to get it dog cremated or whatever.
I've heard this story from a couple of different people.
I've never heard. So the dog comes back to life.
The dog is a giant Great Dane or it's this
always this big dog, and they had to put in
this big suitcase and they had to put in a
suitcase because there was nothing else to put. The dog
was going to say like dogs that it gets weird. Yeah,

(20:05):
And it was just like and they take it um
when it was big blue ikea baggs Yeah, shopping wheel,
yeah yeah, because you don't have a big suitcase the suitcase.
But every time they tell the story, they talk about
how how heavy this suitcases and lugging it around and
they just just they got to take the train and

(20:26):
take the train to the city and take it in
this this and then they're on the corner and they're
like trying to like figure out where they are, and
somebody comes by and steals the suitcase and runs off
with it. And if every time I hear that story,
it's like, if this suitcase was so heavy, did someone
just pick it up and run off with this giant
su super strong dude, The story doesn't make sense. And

(20:52):
that's this is what I feel about the end of
the story. This is the that's the end of the
store and the like. So that person got home open up,
but it was a giant dog and it's just like,
you dumb a story. And this is how I feel
about ghosts. Every time people tell me a story about
a ghost, and it just logic doesn't make sense. I've
never seen a ghost in a Walgreens. People have died
in Walgreens. How many people have died a lot of

(21:15):
people died in Mountain. I don't see a ghost on Goliath.
Died on Goliath. How come there's there's never ghosts on intersections.
People die on the highway. There's there's flowers, there's those
white bikes all over the place, there's you all these
memorials of where people have died. There's never ghost. Ghost
don't like the daytime. They don't like they are only ghost.
That's that's so stupid ghost or not, Like Okay, it's

(21:38):
only come out when it's super ghost. Only come out
when it's super spooky when nobody else is around in
a place that's already like and there's no other people
to back you up exactly, And then most would be like,
well that door did close suddenly, Like okay did it?
It's like your energy though you have like a YouTuber
who like debates people on whether ghosts exist coming they

(22:00):
only come out and they're spooky, and they never It
doesn't make sense, So I just love it. It gets
it's the one thing. I'm very bad, but you have
like that the vibe though of someone who kind of
wants a ghost to exist, but you've been so disappointed
a friend, friend, this mortal plane. Don't we all want that?

(22:21):
That would be great man. Uh So, do you believe
people who think they've seen ghosts? Do you think they're lying?
Or do you think they just believe they've seen a ghost?
Did they believe it? But that's what's that's what's crazy
to me is that they they're in a place where
their mind could play tricks on them, you know, and uh,
you know it's in there. It's always like in an
old place, you know, to the idea that a ghost

(22:44):
is walking around going I'm gonna I'm gonna turn the
lights off. They don't real qui you know, like that's
how you're gonna go go step your game up? Dude.
I don't know. But on a show, they're always make
a basketball move crazy in air like in a game,
like so much was in the Other Angels in the Outfield.
I mean that has happened that documentary and The Sixth

(23:06):
Man with Cadem Hardison again a ghost? Hell? Is that
a ghost? Basketball? Wait? Angels happen. Those aren't ghost of
those are angels bad? But so where does that? Definitely
don't get me. The angels say somebod angels now ghosts
fuck them? I mean, how how come I ghost just

(23:27):
never just grabs a bunch of like you're eating a
bowl of cheese pups and it just throws all the
cheese pups in your face or yeah, I mean that's
why it moved that it moved yours. But people feel
so stupid telling that story that they're just like, I
guess I can't, like, that's not a good ghost story.
So you only hear about the ones who's like a
child was like hovering over me when I woke up

(23:49):
and whispered. People it's like we actually all have ghost
stories just too embarrassing, like ghost my pants. You wouldn't
believe it if I all right, well we've busted some
myths here. We're gonna take a quick break. We'll be
right back and we're back, and uh, just briefly up top,

(24:23):
there's a new Joker trailer out for the new uh
Joaquin Phoenix Joker film, directed by Todd Phillips, maker of
The Hangover. That was the thing that was like making
me like that's kind of a weird fit. You know,
I don't know, he hasn't really made a serious movie.
This looks very serious. What has he made since, like

(24:44):
Star Ski and Hutch the Hangover movies? Oh right, But
then in my mind, my mind singing old School even
though you said Hangover, I know that was like one
of his first films. I mean, he's made some fucking
classic movies that you are all comedies, and then he's
made one like kind of action drama war Dogs. I

(25:05):
think we all remember war Dogs. Loved it, but yeah,
I don't know. Everybody like it's getting a lot of
good advanced buzz. It Premier to Venice and Toronto and
was like at all these film festivals people seem to
like it, but you can't really trust comic book movie
reviews because people fanboy out on. Well, you can trust

(25:27):
him when there's a male lead, that's true. That's the
female leaders are. I don't know social Justice, but I
don't know jokers. Interest trailers keep getting better. Man the trailers.
I went from being like, oh cool, Joaquin Phoenix will
be a joker to this. Then another teaser came out
and I was like, go on, and now this one,

(25:49):
I'm like, this might be fucking good, freaky because I
feel like Joaquin Phoenix is one of those actors who
like has that he's haunted enough to play the Joker,
but would be like one of the like an unlike
Heath Ledger, like where it would affect him. I think
somehow the Joker would be affected by being played by
watching right. Yeah, the Joker just can't recover from this.

(26:10):
I don't know, man, It's like, God, it's fucking weird. Yeah, yeah,
it does feel like it kind of has a vibe
of his performance and The Master if it was like
more on inch like because that performance, like he kept
being like pulled back to trying to be respectable with
Philip Moore Hoffman's character, but like this, he just seems

(26:32):
like it's like that just untethered from anything, sort of
like a taxi driver vibe to it, almost with like
in the opening, is he a stand up or something?
They seem to imply that he was. There's a there's
a bunch of stand ups I know in the movie.
I think Gary Goldman's in it. Sam Morrel was telling

(26:53):
me he shot a thing. Oh I heard maybe Mark.
I don't know if that's for sure, but um, it
does seem to be this interesting stand up element in it.
And uh, it's funny because if you know, if you've
ever been or done an open mic, a lot of
those people remind you of somebody who very dark. There
is a very dark energy to like a bad stand

(27:14):
up comic at an open mic. Like it's just like
that is that's like the real fork in the road
in life a comedy open mic, right, yeah, this but
this is where you make that decision on this open
mic stage. I definitely have felt that there's been people
that if there was not such the culture of open
mic comedy, that these people would have gone to a

(27:35):
very dark place because there is a thank goodness a community,
but it's so many loaners, and it's so many people
that are very angry and then they come together and
they do it for the sake of making other people laugh, right, gosh,
there are some people who's and there's definitely the people
that still despite that, you know, camaraderie is still found
a way to kind of creep all the other stand

(27:57):
ups out. There's a couple of those guys I remember
being like, whatever happened to so and so, and they
didn't really tell jokes. They just went upstage and we're
very angry and yelled and they're like, oh man, yeah,
Lewis Black is doing pretty well now right. I would
like to see him as the Joker. But I hadn't
really thought about the idea of like failed comedian, like

(28:20):
just like toxic narcissism, like blocked weird. I hadn't really
thought of that as like tapping into something. Uh until
like you guys were talking about comedians who actually dressed
up as the Joker or something. Well, do you want
to talk about this? Uh, there's a guy I when

(28:40):
I first moved to this Hollywood area that we're in
right now, there was a guy that I saw a
dress as the Joker. You know. But there's a lot
of characters on Hollywood, you know, people dress Also. I
see Willy Wonka hopping an Audi t T every day
after five o'clock. True Fat Batman one of my favorite guys.
There's there's five of them. Um, but like yeah, but

(29:03):
then I saw him at Target and I was like, oh,
I guess he you stopped by Targeting on the way
home from being the Joker. And then I saw him
like eating somewhere and I was like, mmmm, this is
not even anywhere near Hollywood Boulevard. And then I saw
him like at like an open mic one time, and
I was like, oh, he just wears the joker. Yeah, well,

(29:24):
I thought you were talking about someone I knew, because
I also like someone I've known from my past I
had not seen in years. And then randomly at a bar,
this fucking dude dressed as like the Heath Ledger joker
like came up to me. Was like, what's up, Miles,
And I looked up at him. I'm like, what's up?
And he was like, Yo, it's me blah blah blah.
And I was like, oh shit, I'm like, why are

(29:46):
you dressed like this? I'm like, are you performing? He's
like no, man, it's just like kind of a character study.
And then and then months later I saw someone else,
a mutual friend. I was like, yo, did you see
him like I saw him recently? He was dressed as
a joker and they're like, oh, he's still doing that still.
I was like, whoa, what do you mean? But I
don't know if that's no longer the case. It may
have actually been, but but I don't know, there's I

(30:08):
think there's just something about the character though, that is very,
very magnetic. For if you have a certain personality in
a post Aurora, Colorado society where that guy dressed up
like the Joker winn and started shooting the place up
to dress like the Joker. In other situations, it's just
it's like dressing up like the unit bomber, or you
dressing up like, you know, any sort of mass murderer.

(30:31):
It's just it's just sort of I think it's pretty inappropriate,
to be honest with you, you know, if you're not
doing strict cosplay in a very defined cosplay setting. Yeah, yeah,
it would be very you'd be like anybody but the
guy who killed everybody, you know, like any Robin you know,
or penguin, you know, like the Penguin. Yeah, it's interesting

(30:53):
because there's a failed comedy, like somebody who see something
funny about the world, but like communicate it with the
outside world, like and there's like sort of a tragic
element to that that they really identify with this character.
So yeah, dude, I think this movie is gonna be interesting,

(31:14):
very angry, That's what I'm trying. I'm just saying, maybe
you start dressing as the Joker. It will It would
be a weird look to have my like brown skin
breaking through it, right, you want to, that's one cost,
But I'm like, I'll let the white people have that. Yeah,
it'd be weird if you guys like later on Saw,
like the Joker guy I'm talking about, and you turn
around and you're like, wait, that's Nick. That boy was Hey,

(31:44):
there's some crazy people around here, Joker. That would be amazing,
Like all right, dude, well you're gonna pay for your
slurpy or am I working at a seven eleven in
this story? School? Nick or Joker? Just give me? Let

(32:07):
me get that quarter pounds spicy big bite whenever the condiments?
Should we check in with the world, Oh, our president?
The real joke in the White House? Am I right? Guys?
I mean circus is really in town? When that guy

(32:28):
Washington d c am I right, man? What's happening under
the big Top and I mean Capitol Hill, the dome? There? Uh?
Three rings? Yeah, what's going on? That three ring circus?
The executive the legislative in um, Yeah, there's I don't know, man,

(32:50):
Since last week. I'm look, it's always been this simmering
of like nonsense, but it gets it's it's been like
getting a little like I really having trouble following his
logic paths now, like it's really just kind of like
he's flailing more than normal. It does seem like it's
sort of waxism wanes between like a high boil of

(33:13):
insanity and just you know, complete cluster fuccory, and then
like things quiet down for a little bit, like the
people around him get ahold of him or something. But
I think now that we're like it seem yeah, I
don't wonder how much that is. He was sweating at
that conference. I thought that was you sweat horns in

(33:35):
his face. But like it seems like the polling and
the economic outlook stuff is what's really beginning to trigger
him because a lot of these things are in response
to things that seem to be tangentially connected to the
idea that people are like there, I don't know how
long this economy is gonna go with these policies. And
also like these poll numbers are not great for Trump
no matter how you cut them. Not again, because we've

(33:58):
all learned our lesson from just a fucking snapshot of
what people think in that fucking moment, not all right,
time to go to bed, y'all. He's getting crushed in
the polls so recently. You know, when you look at
the things that he's promised, like, you know, I'm bringing
the farmland back, I'm putting people back on those factory lines.
We're getting coal, fucking word raising coal like you've never seen.

(34:21):
None of that ship has happened. We're building the fucking wall.
He hasn't done a single thing. So now I think
of the things that he has um the ability to
like control the wall is like the one thing I
guess he feels really fixated on that he can actually
deliver on. And so now he's directing people security to
build the fucking wall no matter what by election day.

(34:42):
You know, the one of the things that liberals need
to understand as far as why people are going to
continue to support him, is it was that he pulled
out a NAFTA. You know, he got out of the
Paris Accords, he got out of the Iran Deal. He
fulfilled a lot of these promises, and this is and
he's gonna run on that. He's gonna like run into

(35:04):
the ground. The promises he did do The Wall is
like the last promise that he he you know, the
Obamacare thing's done. You know, he can't do anything. Hen't
forget about that yet. Yeah, he's gonna blame McCain for
that forever. But the Wall is like the one promise
that he's gonna he has to like make them feel
that he's going to like that's why this He's gonna
continue to do this thing. You know what really kills

(35:26):
me is the you know, you take his lowest approval
rating and as highest approval rating, and it's what eight percent,
who is this eight percent of the country that's just
day to day is changing their mind on this guy,
like back on board guys, right, Yeah, the you know,
even when you say that like he may say that
he made good on those promises. It's gonna be tough

(35:47):
because there's a lot of articles coming out of like
the farm belt basically that are like I don't know
a single farmer who like has not been really negatively affective.
Sure something like major like these gigantic farms po sibly
because they're getting the subsidies, but they're like the farming
thing is really starting to weigh on just the culture
of farming too, because it's sort of like, well, you're

(36:07):
gonna have nobody to sell to, but I'll get you check.
And that's not sustainable. And it's really and I think
there's more grumblings now that like he has a few
groups like truckers too. There are a lot of truckers
because of the trade slowing down that means less stuff
is moving around that are also starting to be like
hold on, man, like, yeah, actually I can. I can
begin to connect the dots to why I'm working less

(36:30):
and it's you. So there's gonna be a balancing because
there are some people who are just so racist they
don't care like it affects them, you know, like whatever
their pocketbook, because they just want to see as much
pain being inflicted upon, you know, marginalized people or non
whites or non cis gendered or liberals. The thing that
makes them so happy is how mad liberals get at

(36:53):
at Trump like that seems to be the key to
keep putting up with it. That's because the farmers are
getting screwed and it's like, is that what is it?
Why are why are any farmers still on board? Is it?
Is it? That? Is it? They're just they love the
trolling of the liberals. They'll watch their you know, they're
watch their their their two and ups wilt. It means

(37:13):
that the liberals got trolled. And you know, it's funny.
The only thing it seems that he is doing for
the farmers, it's socialism, you know, like that's the only
thing that and so the socialism or any socialist you know,
uh sort of policy, but then it's it's a socialist policy.
Is the only thing he's doing is giving from being

(37:35):
like literally, socialism is when AOC and ilhan Omar do
anti Semitism, that's socialism. That's true. Because I don't even
know what they know, So I don't know does anyone
they don't know what it is. They think they sell
it as venezuela, you know, and it's it's like it's
like your schools are you know, socialism, your highways or socialism.

(37:55):
You know, no one is, no liberal is is fighting
for I mean, maybe there are some liberals that are
saying it should be all socialism, and those people are
not helping the whole are conversation, but you know, like
just the idea of we use socialist program Yeah, well,
I think that's where people pick and choose because overall
they're like, well, this is capitalism, but like when you

(38:16):
look at like, well, the way this is functioning, you
may want to look at those definitions a little more
clearly or closely. Um. When it comes to the wall though,
right now, he wants five hundred miles of wall done
before election day, and he has a lot of um
as it stands, though, I think the military has only

(38:38):
been able to like reinforce about sixty miles. So there's
a lot of fun work, which is why he has
been telling people, uh, Aids, he stold Aids quote not
to worry about breaking the law in order to finalize
contracts or using eminent domain to see his property for
the structure. Now that's where it gets. Using eminent domain
means you're stealing somebody's yeah land, Yeah, you're like, well

(39:03):
I need this, you're mine. You're making somebody homeless. And
the President saying you can do that even if it's
against the law, because I'm going to pardon you, right,
and that's what he said, when it seems pretty like
that's just next level in this post article in the
Post say, when Aids have suggested that some orders are
illegal or unworkable. Trump has suggested he would pardon the

(39:24):
officials if they would go ahead. Uh Aid said he
has waved off worries about contracting procedures in the use
of eminent domain, saying, quote, take the land, don't worry out,
pardon you and when they when they were asked for comment,
a White House official who wanted to remain anonymous, said
he's joking when he makes statements about pardons. Oh really, yeah,

(39:47):
what is it? When is I just wish we had
like some sort we're working off the same you know,
set of facts right here. You know, every time you
hear anything, you know, it's like, well, he President says
he wants to buy Greenland. Okay, didn't you know he
didn't he has he did, No, he didn't. He wants
to drop I love to drop a bomb in the
hurricane thing. And how he's denying that so fiercely, And
it's like, if you look, he's not the first person

(40:10):
to suggest buying Greenland. He's not the first person to
suggest dropping a bomb into hurricanes. You know. Um, Like
sometimes I'm like I wouldn't mind a whimsical president, you know,
like if it wasn't for all like the racist stuff
and like just destroying the environment and like the divisive angry,
like just stoking the members of fires of hate if

(40:33):
because if they're if we like like a liberal president.
It was like, hey, man, let's try to buy Greenland.
I'd be like, all right, let's check it out. You know.
He was like, what if we just like dropped a
bomb in the hurricane, I'd be like, look into it.
But not a nuke though, Man, we don't want to
mess up the earth, but like big gas, regular bombs. Yeah,
that don't like bring a tornado of fallout just around. Yeah,

(40:56):
but I mean somebody like that, you know, rip of
a friends like, hey, we're just gonna love Isis to
death and that's how we're gonna do that and wish
away your aids and' like, oh, what are you sure
about that, Marianna? What's caused by fear? Right? That's when
it gets That's when the good times start to get

(41:16):
a little weird. Christian scientists stuff real quick. There is
a poll out that might be catching his attention because
it's being called a shock poll on Drudge, which we
know Trump reads. It says that the top five Democrats,
so that is Biden Sanders, Warren Harris, and Buddha Jedge

(41:40):
all beat him in a head to head poll by
between sixteen and nine points percentage points. So we're back
to polls. We are back to polls. However, I do
think that polling and granted were way way the funk out,
but just in terms of what would happen if the
election war tomorrow, Like the last Clinton Trump pull in

(42:03):
the election, she was up I think six points and
that was like early October, before the the comy story happened,
and I think people were like the New York Times
and uh, the Washington Post were saying it was like
a shot that she would win, but she was only
up like between two and six percentage points at the end.

(42:25):
And Nate Silver was like, no, it's like he has
a one in three chance of winning. And it wouldn't
be that surprising all if when you look at like
the like you know, third party candidates can siphon off
like anywhere from like four to six four to seven percent,
then that's not a good margin. Six percent is in
a good margin at all. Yeah, and we saw that. Yeah,

(42:46):
but yeah, I think you know, not that we're saying, hey, great,
it's all one, but it's stick really sort of keep
up this enthusiasm that like, okay, like there's a there's
a very good shot to not epically funck this up. Yeah,
that's right, there were We have a year to not
epically not funk this up. Quinnipiac in kind of taking

(43:08):
a look at the numbers and carving the pulling up
a little bit, is saying that the main difference between
Trump support these days and back during the twenty sixteen
election is that he has completely lost white women. White
women actually voted in support of him. Uh, and now

(43:28):
he's basically losing by double digits in every scenario with
white women. Come on, white women, keep come on home. Well,
I definitely don't believe that he's gaining. I feel like
he's lost more than he's gaining. I can't. I can't
imagine who was anyone who was anti Trump in the beginning,
who's just like, you know what, racist enough? I'm in um.

(43:52):
I think the Biden numbers are I don't know, we're
not exactly talking about this, but like, I think it's
gonna I think it's gonna be interesting how the numbers
change as the field gets it down. I don't think
Biden gains anybody else. I think the other people highlander style,
like you know, or there could be all the non
Biden people will always go once their persons eliminated, they
will just go to the other non Biden person. I don't,

(44:14):
you know, because I don't think there's not a lot
of centrist left of like the core. I mean, Buddha Judge,
I think and Harris are like the closest thing. Yeah,
and I mean I guess, yeah, I guess maybe if
it gets down to yeah, maybe there's some people that
are Buddha Judge and and and Kamala that like go
to Biden because Sanders and one or too left. It

(44:34):
might be too left for them. But yeah, well I
think again that's been the whole Biden sort of battlecrads.
Like I'm the guy with the best poll numbers. It's
like that's not enough really, Like we're in a really
terrible situation in this country. Like I get that you
have the best poll numbers, but like offer a fucking
vision of what the country is going to be rather
than being like my son tragically passed away. So I

(44:57):
would never repeal Obamacare, which the crux of like this
new ad he's doing. Yeah, it just feels very much
old old school politics, like the politics that used to
like Clinton arapolicies. Well, the economy is in the situation
with people's incomes are just too unpredictable right now, and
people are really starting to look at like hold on
and like especially when you look at for millennials too,

(45:17):
we were fucked by that last recession. We entered a
job the a waste land of a job market. We're
not able to regain any of that wealth during the recovery,
and we're like ten percent behind in everything I think,
like in net worth or some behind like x or whatever.
Like millennials really need to also realize there's a lot
has to be done if we even want to think

(45:39):
that there's a future that is actually like worth living
in this country, like based on the kind of wealth
we can accumulate, because we may just be the generation
that's like waiting for our parents to just give us
stuff that they accumulated because the economy just wasn't robust
enough for us to you know, gain any assets. And
that's that's the now. Outlooks even bleaker for gen Z.

(46:00):
So I would not count on baby boomers leaving anything
for you because they're the like most selfish. But I mean,
like when you look at like some millennials who are
still need, like are still dependent on their parents. I'm
saying in that sense, like there are people who if
they're fortunate enough that their parents are able to support
them or whatever, that's been a form of income for generation,

(46:21):
which is very different. I'm just saying it's a bad
situation when you're depending on the people who were so
good at planning for the future that they created global warming.
Uh dope, oops, not my dad. My mom didn't do
that though. Yeah. No, I I'm talking about everyone besides

(46:42):
the parents of the people in this room. Yeah. And
also that and also the boomers who listen to the
show shout out as you're the good ones who also
chime in like we're not all bad. I'm like, right,
you're right, yeah, No, it's definitely true about you speaking
of when you're speaking about generations, you have to understand
that there's going to be exceptions. That's a lot of people.

(47:02):
All Right, we're gonna take another quick break and we'll
be right back. And we're back, and Aunt Becky is
back in the news. Laurie Laughlin and her just how Massimo.

(47:28):
I love how they refer to her as Larry Laughlin
and her husband. That is one victory for do you
just say Aunt Becky and the dude who made him
uncle Becky nice and uncle Becky they operation Varsity Blues.
Is you know, still rolling on, um. But there's been

(47:50):
we haven't checked in with her, and there's been a
few things we haven't talked about. A is that she's
been saying that a lot of her friends haven't been
calling anymore, kind of keeping their distance from her. UM.
And also other the friends that are around have been
talking shipped to the tabloids saying she's obsessed with the case,
and he's been pouring over document over document as if
something is like she's gonna beautiful mind like reveal like

(48:14):
a thing that makes it so that she didn't actually
pay five thousand dollars in bribes to have their two
daughters designated as USC rowing team recruits. UM. Because that's
those are the facts, UM. And so now they're in
court because they're they're gonna have to go to trial
because they didn't fucking take a plea deal like everyone

(48:35):
else did or most people didn't. Because they're like yeah,
you got us. They're just like Nope, we won't do it.
We're going to fight the case. And they didn't catch
us exactly. None of this is happening, um, And they
went into this hearing they're saying there's a lot of
um conflict of interest stuff they suspect or the prosecution
was raising about their legal team because their legal defense
team represented us in a very separate case. But the

(48:57):
firm has been like, no, that's not going to be
an issue, and like, well, why are the both of
you guys represented by the same lawyer, like the same
legal team, Like that's just not good for you, Like
that's not a good strategy. And the judge literally had
to make sure they were not on drugs, you know that,
like you are you are guys, are aware that the
two of you are sharing, you know, your defense team,

(49:18):
and that is no just asking like you're not on medication,
You're not on drugs that would prohibit you from understanding
the decision you're making right now. And they're like no,
because the whole thing is that, Like the judge even said,
they said, having an attorney who is working for you
and you alone is one of the best ways to
have a good defense, and they're like, no, because the
whole thing was, you know, one of the defenses, because

(49:42):
they're both implicated in this, could be that one of
them was hiding something from the other person. So they're saying,
maybe that's why I'm less on the hook for this,
because I don't know if Massimo didn't tell me that
the guy was a briber or whatever. And but if
that's the case, they're not going to be able to
use that evidence to help one of the other science
out because it's a shared legal defense. So they're just saying, like, Okay,

(50:03):
I go down together. Basically, yeah, they're like, fuck it,
we're going exactly. And so the judge again was being
like okay, so you're sure they said yes, And their
whole defense, from what it sounds like, as people describe it,
very nixon Ian in fashion, where they're going to force
the prosecutors to prove that they one percent knew that

(50:27):
the mastermind of this whole thing, this guy Rick Singer,
was like the guy like that what he was really
up to and it wasn't just some really cool consultant
who could get your kids into college for a half
million dollars. Man there's they don't sound very bright, and
it sounds like they need to bribe themselves back into
college and learn learn how to be smarter. I don't

(50:49):
doubt that they didn't know that they were breaking. How
could you fucking think that you could you know, like
or how could you not know the guy? I mean, sure,
maybe the guy's using language that isn't explicitly like give
me a half million dollars, I'm gonna give it to
USC and then your kids will get in as recruits.
But when you just look at the proposition, which is

(51:10):
a half million dollars to turn my like you know,
vapid YouTuber daughter and the other one who I'm not
sure what her deal is like into suddenly like rowing
recruits is a very odd like like okay, yeah, that
seems sounds like on the level, right, but I don't
know that that that that guess that would be their defense,
Like I get yeah, the rowing recruits thing, like if

(51:31):
they knew and they did no detailed stuff about that, right,
and it seems like a lot of evidence was The
thing that they that really made it clear that these
people all knew was when they're like, okay, I need
some I need some information so we can make your
child look like this thing. They are not right, I
I you know, because like this is like the elite
stuff that the that the country hates, that these rich

(51:53):
people just get to like because she took a spot
from a kid in college, right and I you know,
like a kid who like did want to go to
college that worked hard. You have this influencer society that's disgusting.
I just kind of I would love there's some sort
of poetic justice of like that her stupid Instagram videos

(52:14):
and posts wind up bringing them down, like her being
like my parents want me to go and they're like,
I hate Rowing. I don't even I've never even been
in a boat, you know, Like they sign all these
d ms on Instagram, like like, I can't go to
the party. My mom has to like I have to
look like a wrote like a regatta person to your
fake college scam. Yeah, something I can't. Like, I can't

(52:36):
believe my mom is bribing USC to convince them I'm
a Rowing recruit just so I can get in because
my grades are not good enough and otherwise on paper,
I'm a completely uh just I'm not a viable Canada
attend to the school. I mean, that would be the thing,
but I think everything else points to the fact that
they knew. But that is a hell of a defense.
And I don't know, I bet that I bet they
didn't know, like didn't realize it. And that's an indictment

(53:00):
of like what it's like to be a rich person
in America that you can just that everything is just
like for you know, they'll do it for us for
free because we're rich, Like, yeah, we get everything we
want for free. But like that's just the whole system.
Once you're really really rich, like you just people start
throwing free ship at you and you're just like, yeah,

(53:22):
of course, Like I think we're going to prison. They
should make the both of them get teaching credentials and
have to teach teach at public school public schools, really
get their ship together so they can. I think that's
they need an experience. But then we'd have to watch
the movie that was like Dangerous Minds starring her as

(53:43):
her more of a comedy's like she was a high
flying actress. One mistakes center back to school. I just
love the defense of ignorance, you know, just like you
bought drugs in the street. No, this guy was a
consultant from my depression. Yeah that if I just breathed
in the smoke from this your rock, if you just

(54:04):
do a line of this antidepressant, right, yeah, I'll be good. Yes,
it was all herbal It was all yeah, you know,
well that's what shows you man, it's just a hell
of a drug at that level where you really think,
I mean, like things, everything's viable, influences, everything is a transaction.
Nothing is about merit. It's just about your outside power.
And this defense is all about them refusing to leave

(54:26):
that bubble, just being like yeah again, how anybody would
have made this mistake. It's like, Nold, I'm really getting
in trouble for this really, because this is how it
works out here. It's like, yeah, but that's outside of
the legal structure. Out here is inside a very small
bubble that you live in, and that is not real. Meanwhile,
Felicity Huffman, who did take a plea deal, you know

(54:46):
they're saying, at most she could get four months, but
they don't even think she'll even see a prison at all. Right,
because she was like, oh, yeah, are bad. We fucked
up terrible, like and I'm so ashamed. Yeah, then Meanwhile,
you have the cock the cocky twins over here who
are like, we didn't know. I mean when you see
just like a video from the daughter that they got

(55:09):
into USC. She's a young person, so I'm not gonna
but it's just like this person was not interested in college.
But like the world that allows that sort of mindset
to exist has to be really fun. Well yeah, I
mean I grew up with a lot of kids like
that in l A who are basically defanged by their
parents like wealth, Like they just have never had to

(55:32):
think independently do with these other things because their wealthare around.
Just it's a completely developmental world you're in at that point.
And I think for some yeah, like you see kids
like that, and I'm like, I guess I have to
go to college, but I don't know, like my parents
like they're they're like loaded, Like I can just go.
I can just live in Santra Pe if I wanted,
But they can fund my Instagram career. Yeah, and you

(55:54):
just seek and then but like now cut to now
one of our thirties, and they're flailing as adults, like
they just don't like they're realizing now they're like, oh
my god, it was fine, whereas of my twenties and
like didn't have a care in the world. But like
starting to like think about having a future or a
family and realizing you have no job skills or life skills. Like,
there's a few who I think are in not good shape.

(56:16):
That's assuming that you don't consider dressing up as the
Joker and doing open mic knights a life skill. Yeah,
that's true, right, Uh well, this is actually an authentic costume.
This is some bad costume. Uh well. Speaking of herbal remedies, guys,
KFC has been teasing a plant based alternative to their chicken.

(56:38):
Uh and man chicken is just storming the Zeke guys
in the past couple of weeks because this this went
huge in Atlanta. In Atlanta it was they said, first
of all, they're offering beyond meat created nuggets and boneless wings.
The first thing I want to ask is are those
not the same fucking thing? Nuggets first, boneless wing? I

(57:02):
mean I get that the process, if it were chicken,
a nugget is clearly just that pink goo. They cut
into shapes and they fry and then in a bone
it's like flesh. Well, I think you can be but
it's more of a it's like chicken flesh versus the
Google fry. But then I'm saying that when you're doing
at this point, when it's beyond me, and I feel

(57:23):
like it's essentially the same things, it's in different shapes. Yeah, anyway,
I need I need my beyond meat to be breaded. Yeah, look,
I just don't Boneless wings are an abomination of My
book is all flats all day. Thank you. You already
know my position on that. Um So, in Atlanta, they
were crowds gathering at eight am to get this new nuggie, okay,

(57:43):
and throughout the day they say the dining line wrapped
around the building with double looped drive through lines. I
don't even know what that is, but that sounds like
a fucking nightmare. Like crisis actress, This sounds like crisis.
This is a this is a false flag attack against
Big Chicken, who's lining up for not real chicken. Well,
this is the thing, because I think it's just a
lot of people like the whole uh sort of plant

(58:04):
based like options at fast food been doing really well,
which is interesting. Yeah, I could see it in California
or you know, or the West coast sounds that it's
pretty liberal, like in certain spots, I feel like I
feel like, I don't know, I feel like there's a
resistance of like Midwest and South of like like we

(58:25):
like real meat, like barbecue, We like you know, real
chicken and stuff, and to be that excited in Atlanta
about to be honest, I feel like because most chicken
nuggets are so processed. In my mind it was never chicken.
Chicken nugget is its own category. There's more meat now
than there. Yeah, Suddenly, like I feel like that one
actually might work as a thing where no one's going

(58:47):
to be like, I can't even taste the goo in this,
because you can never taste the chicken in a fucking nugget.
It was just about the seasoning basically in the sauce um.
But they said this test was so success well, they
said in five hours, guests purchased the same amount of
fried chicken that they would are like in terms of

(59:07):
like the popcorn chicken, that they would sell five hours
of what they would normally do in a week. Damn.
I I think this is like probably an under rated
like market. Capitalistically speaking, this is going to be a
huge wave of coming there's this global data poll that

(59:27):
found that a full seventy percent of the population at
large is reducing meat consumption or leaving meat behind all together.
And it's really driven by millennials, Like as you know,
they're becoming adults and making their own purchasing decisions. It's
becoming just more and more of the population is is

(59:49):
now either going full like vegan or vegetarian, or more
just wanting to like that. Now there's the thing of
like I'm a weekday vegetarian arian or you know, weekday vegan.
I have to step on a story we might talk about,
but like, you know, the whole Amazon thing, you know,
it's like the Amazon's on fire and it's just like

(01:00:12):
you know what, Oh, I can't believe it. Then you
read you read into it and they're they're clearing land
for cattle, and so it's like everyone's just you know this,
you know, we talk about the boycotts and stuff like that,
like if you everyone's like so upset and being like,
you know, screw us as humans, But like how many
people are genuinely being like, Okay, I'm gonna like not
eat meat for a whole month. And if we all

(01:00:34):
did that like maybe there wouldn't be this motivation to
clear so much Amazon forest out of the way. I
certainly have not. I I've been complaining about the Amazon
and I have not adjusted my meat consumption at all.
You know, Um, I don't know. I mean that is
like it seems like a very real effective thing for

(01:00:54):
this beyond meat and stuff to be Yeah. Well, and
it's also like a very it's a direct thing you
can do that you can at least feel like it's
like some of the lowest hanging fruit in terms of
being like, Okay, I can I can sort of reduce
my impact if I am eating differently. That is something
you have control of. But you know, yeah, and somehow
McDonald's is sleeping on this because Burger King got the

(01:01:17):
Beyond Burgers, they got the Beyond Whopper, and McDonald's like
one of the biggest purchasers of beef. Yeah, like I'm
wondering what that delicate, but like what that profit based
balances w they have to figure out how they you know,
throttle that down and bring this other ship online. I'm
just worried about them as all. Yeah, yes, I mean,
you know, thoughts and prayers to McDonald's. I think I

(01:01:39):
think beyond it impossible. It might be in like some
sort of bidding war right now for McDonald's. That's whoever
lands that go into like those things people are getting
Ronald McDonald fucked up it sales, Yeah, like, hey man,
you want should I get another eight ball? Dude? Got
dancers coming up to the sweet later, so you know.

(01:01:59):
But I'm the meat and a McDonald's hamburger, like the
Big Mac is not about meat quality, like the Big
Mick is going to be just as good with like
a beyond That's what That's what I'm saying. Like when
nuggets like I didn't know, I had never thought it
was chicken, Like it could have been planted based the
whole time. I wouldn't have known because to me, it's
not what in my mind go oh that's chicky. And

(01:02:20):
the burgers like when you look at a fucking patty
you're like, yeah, this is this meat. I don't know.
That's why I feel like Taco Bell could get away
with that ship too, Like the ground beef. Are you
are we being reas it's fucking old tone nails and
the differences. We will have to confront the reality of
what it tastes when that isn't like sawdust and like

(01:02:42):
meat flavoring. Um, oh can we by the way, can
we get Walking Phoenix to play Ronald McDonald Yeah, um, popeyees. Meanwhile,
I mean that so, something that we're seeing now with
these test marketing things where they become huge global phenomenons
due to a social media is that the workers are

(01:03:04):
kind of, uh, it's not great for them. They go
from like being a you know, they're staffed like a
middling fast food restaurant, and then suddenly it's like, you know,
they're working at an Apple store on iPhone drop day,
like it's right. Yeah, the people are talking about feeling
like one eighteen year old said, I was working like

(01:03:26):
a slave in the back prepping the buns with pickles
and the spicy mayo. And another person said everyone wanted
to quit so bad because it was that bad. We
have never seen it get this insanely busy. So yeah,
I mean it's just one person made six hundred sandwiches
during their shift. Yeah I was. Yeah, I mean we

(01:03:48):
got in before it got really really crazy. And we're
Popeye hipsters, right, We're Popeye hipsters, Like we were into
it kind of before the buzz like we already new
like we're kind of like onto the next thing already
were we're on the CAFC nuggets. Are you guys like
the Popeyes Chickens any much? It was already a little
bit busy, and you could tell it was they were

(01:04:08):
doing a great job though, great job, great job with
the Popeye's crew. Uh. And then real quick, Netflix has
a movie coming out called The Irishman, the new Martin
Scorsese Mafia hit Man movie. It's about the hit man
who allegedly killed Jimmy Hoffa. Um, and I thought he
was alive. Yeah, you're thinking of hope, No, it wasn't.

(01:04:32):
There wasn't there a conspiracy theory that Jimmy Hoffa wasn't dead? Yeah,
I think because people don't know where his body is,
right right, right, so they there's a theory that he's
various people like, oh he assumed other people that he became.
That's when it gets real cool. Matthew McConaughey, I think one. Alright,

(01:04:54):
Uh they But so this is being put out by
like it's been kind of a legendary production in Hollywood
because nobody could fund it. Because what he wanted to
do is you know, have al Pacino and Robert de
Niro in it, but then they're playing characters like there's

(01:05:16):
a lot of flashbacks, so you're seeing them as young men,
so they have to like d age them. So people
are like, this is like a prestige oscar movie, but
it's gonna end up costing like two hundred million dollars.
Oh because of all the because of like digitize d
aging all that stuff, making Appaccino look like he's tall.

(01:05:38):
Uh you know, Miles, you were showing us actually a
picture of de Niro. I guess was playing a tall
character because he is in some lifts that were like
Frankenstein is in the job, same kind of shoe, right, Yeah,
he looks like Louis the fourteenth a little bit with
those big old chunky list heels. Uh. So, nobody was

(01:05:58):
going to make this movie for the studio system because
it wasn't gonna make its money back because they knew
upfront it's like a bulk of the budget has to
go into making these exactly septagenarians like younger in right.
But Netflix because their model is more like getting their
name in the news and seeming indispensable. Uh, stepped in

(01:06:18):
and they funded it. Uh it did end up costing
I think hundred and sixty million dollars and that's not
even taking marketing into account. Um. So yeah, after marketing
and distribution, it would have to make around four hundred
to four hundred fifty million to break even. Uh. Both Netflix,
they don't have to make back a specific dollar amount.

(01:06:39):
They just need to kind of bolster their images a
necessary commodity. Um. But they just took a hit because
they are trying to get like a wide release, like
a standard like big movie that releases in thousands of theaters,
and theater chains have denied them that right because they

(01:07:01):
didn't want to leave it in theaters alone without going
to Netflix for the requisite. I think it's three months
is what theaters demand before it starts appearing elsewhere. Oh
So like with Roma, that's why I was very limited
because they're just like the theaters that were like, yeah,
this is a this is a good film, and we'll
put it there. But other ones are just like n

(01:07:22):
C and the big theater chains they have, They're like, yeah,
if you hold this back for the standard two to
three months, then it you know, people are going to
feel to write, and I mean they're kind of right, like,
I don't. I think it probably suppresses business. If you're like,
I can watch this on Netflix and are like I

(01:07:45):
knew that from the start about Roma and ended up
watching it at home. Why wouldn't they Why wouldn't they
just keep it in the standard release because they want to.
They want it to feel like I think Netflix one,
to feel like a movie studio. And so they're also
releasing twelve other movies that are I guess ten other

(01:08:07):
movies that are all like Oscar prestige movies, uh this
year alone, just to try and become like win an
Oscar essentially there. Yeah, but so put them in the
theaters and play. I don't understand why they won't, like,
do what the theaters want right now? Oh, I think
I won't they leave it in theaters for a longer
period of time because they're stubborn and they're like, no,

(01:08:28):
we were doing this for our streaming service. It's also
so funny because it's like if Blockbusters started making movies,
you know, if Blockbuster was just like, why don't we
just make these like something like the Guy behind the Counter.
I'm better than all these these directors the problem with
pulpitiction actually is all right, that's our VP of development, right,

(01:08:54):
But yeah, I mean that's sort of the thing where
they're butting up against their position as a disruptor in
the film in the street, and then you're kind of
seeing them sort of butting up against the established I
was like, well, you need the theaters, and the theaters
and the traditional studios kind of get this is how
you do business. And I think they're like, this is
if you want to funk around and be like the
other guys, then you got to follow the rules. And

(01:09:15):
I think that's nothing like you guys, which I don't
know if that's going to be to their detriment or not.
But we're Netflix, bro. I just I don't I don't know.
I deficit spending, like the world's fucking ending, I know how.
I don't get every time you hear like like Twitter
and Netflix are these like you know, are super popular things,
and you hear that they don't make any money at all.
You know, they lose money. I hear Netflix loses. I don't.

(01:09:37):
I don't get billions. Yeah, I don't get how they
how it sustains itself. Well, it's just enough to keep
growing their subscriber base and then eventually becomes so big
that it'll force like Google or Apple, Like, they just
want to get so big that someone's gonna have to
buy them, right, That's kind of yeah. I think that's
what I Every time I asked somebody who like does business, like,

(01:09:58):
what is their endgame to They're just trying to dominate
everything and just have Amazon absorb them. And we're somewhere, Yeah,
I'd be like, okay, we'll buy you now. Wow. But
that's a you know, they're also one of one of
their other oscar Bid movies is in there, like Ice
right now, The King. Have you seen? Yeah, Timothy Shellman,
Robert Pattinson with like long hair, looking hot, his bowl cut. Yeah,

(01:10:23):
it looks pretty solid. Yeah. Oh is this a thirst trap? Yes?
Is it? That's what people were saying. They were is
so and so picture a thirst trap him with the
bowl cut hair. Twitter, Yeah, wow, fighting words. I just

(01:10:44):
I hate twitters. You gotta look at it when you
need it. I don't love the idea of like a
thirst trap. It's just like I'm gonna look at this.
Oh no, it's an attractive person. No, here, I am
masturbating at work. They got me. They got me again.
I'm gonna see if this bird scooter I left around

(01:11:06):
the corners they're still. Uh Nick, it's been a pleasure
having you. Uh where can people find you and follow you? Well?
The big thing is, we got a new podcast that
just dropped this week, Get Rich Nick, Me and Nick Turner.
I believe you Beautiful's it's a he has a song

(01:11:29):
like a siren, a police siren. Um. But we it's
called Get Rich Nick. Each week we try to find
a way to make money. We did donating plasma the
first week, and then next week we go to the
horse track. But you can find that anywhere. And um,
yeah you need a guy for the horse track. Yeah,
well we win already, but if you I'm always down

(01:11:50):
to go again. I know a few people who like
are they just know how to pick horses. This one
guy I met, his name is Tom Sawyer. Yeah, he's
this old guy. He has a golden horseshoe ring and
like like sees the matrix at horse races that Santa Anita.
And then this other kid I know who like sort
of got pulled into that same world. He's like trying
to create like a full on algor like a system

(01:12:12):
to the horses, and it's actually kind of getting good.
There's a there's this story we kind of touched on UM,
but it's like in Hong Kong, there was this guy
who figured out system and uh, and it became so
easy for him to pick horses because you know, the
horse track, they have the odds and the odds are
all these factors that they put in. If you listen

(01:12:32):
to these guys talk about, he's like this, this is
a horse that's good on a wet track, you know,
and he's and if he hasn't he needs a three
day If he has three days of rush, he's that's
where he's rolling a fire and all solders. Um. But
then this guy figured out factors outside of what the
rest the race track factors in and he like it
became so easy for him to win. There's this story

(01:12:53):
of him like winning like the biggest jackpot you can
win in this one race, and he just threw it
in a safe and never cashed it. UM. I think
I guess if you don't catch checks, the Hong Kong
government gives it to charity or something like that. Because
I think the Hong Kong government runs the gambling thing
or something like that. But yeah, there is, there is

(01:13:14):
like these crazy systems. Yeah. Yeah, I've always said the
Hong Kong government's fucking lady dude. Yeah, they're the they're
the good ones and the China one is the bad one. Yeah.
I think is that what it is? I gotta read it.
It's all about if you're a pro democracy or not,
as Hong Kong government's pro democracy. Well, you know, it's depends.
It's a mixture because there's a chief executive that Beijing

(01:13:37):
has to approve. So typically the chief executive is someone
that isn't really a direct threat to Beijing, so that
person is sort of you know, they say it's a
group of people that pick, but typically it's someone that
is Beijing approved. And then they have a legislative council
that people vote on, like of the seventies seats, they
vote on forty or thirty, and then the other seats

(01:13:59):
are by like pro business, Like each industry gets a
seat in like the Congress basically, and so each industry
basically puts a pro China person in there because of business.
So it's it's very that's a better system than China. Yeah, well, yeah,
and that's how well they take you to China and
make you disappear right, Like obviously they have. They enjoy

(01:14:22):
a little more freedom to sort of speak freely about
their feelings about government versus like in the mainland, Like
it's just unheard of, you know, Like I have friends
who are teaching there or have taught there, and like
their texts if you're asking, like what's going on in China,
they're like they just be like, Oh, it's chill. And
then when they get back there, like, I can't. You can't.
I can't like communicate like that on my phone like

(01:14:45):
I would. I would never do that. I'll talk to
you in person, but like, I'm not leaving a paper trail.
Is there a tweet you've been enjoying? Oh, Paul Britton
had a tweet the other day. It was something about
wanting to design socks for toes. Twar toes. Yeah, individual

(01:15:06):
socks for toes, socks for toes. That was a very
funny image factor of my business. What's Tobeani's Toby and
Toby shit? How far long is he with that? It
might only be as far as the tweet, but you know,
maybe maybe you guys could hook up and have a
whole line of actually do because I'm currently upside down

(01:15:30):
on this thing. Yeah, myles sunk a couple of mill
and the thing if your toes are cold, I just
I want to see the ads like the Netflix of
you have towere disrupting the feet industry like that, Let's
talk after this sounds good. Miles, where can people find you?
And is their tweet you've been enjoying? Yeah, you can

(01:15:51):
find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray.
A tweet I like is from Dana Donnelly at Dana
Donneley Deo n l Y. I like a lot of tweets.
We have to have run the show soon. Uh so
depressing when people from your high school get married and
have kids like they don't even know that you can
move to l A and date four year old comedians
who only have enough money on their e B T
card to buy a post sex snack for themselves. Boom boom, Man,

(01:16:16):
if you've had EB two, what does come on? Man?
You balling that hard? Like unemployment? Oh get that unemployment card? Yeah?
Oh boy, Jack just showed his ass. I also think
I also think it's funny that I'm at the age
now where I'm a punchline comedian, the worst type of

(01:16:42):
person you ever want. As the listeners will see we're
in your balling As Hotels series and you said we're
cool getting room service. Uh. Couple of tweets I've enjoyed
rocket at tweets by Rocket tweeted me, I'm terrified of

(01:17:03):
vals therapist. Why me only sometimes? Wow, it's a thinker. Uh.
Stephen McCann tweeted professionally, I'd love for what happened to
call a flower to happen to me. Paul Tompkins tweeted
a screen cap of like, enter a new password below

(01:17:23):
and he has like one letter one letter in and
below it the box says very weak, Please enter a
stronger password. You goddamn give me two seconds. Man. I
saw Hannibal Burds do this the other day, but he

(01:17:43):
had it was where you like sign your name, you
know when you go to Starbucks and they twist the
patarat sign your name, And he had just like kind
of colored in the entire killed maker. Uh. You can
find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien. You can

(01:18:05):
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going to ride out on today? Writing out on Joe

(01:18:27):
armand Jones, Who's I don't know artist I have. I've
just recently started listening to uh and the track is
called almost Went Too Far as a very Retroe vibe again,
just like yesterday's song, smooth easy, great groove, awesome, nice
SyncE um. But you know, just just relax, you know,

(01:18:48):
there's there's there's so much going on with this the
song that's been playing over and over in this hotel.
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