Jokerin’ Off, Ellen Hearts Other Ultra Rich Person 10.9.19

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when you swallow something was on the cobra. I don't
know cobra. I'm bringing King Cobra malt Laker. I think
I put in You're gonna learn being here in person.
I know the last time I was in my bedroom
by myself with like a little earbud in like hearing
you like on speaker phone, and then the edit came out.
I was like that sounds like I was a normal human. Yeah.

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I mean we have been here yesterday. Now you really,
I mean you eventually have to make Artlanta tour over there, please? Yeah,
we got to do it. M uh well, no, first
of all, how are you doing. How's l A treating you?
It's good? Um. I saw Will Smith and his entire
family in the lobby of my hotel right when I

(03:41):
got here, so it's was like, yeah, like Gemini man
was premiering at the Chinese and like they blocked off
the whole lobby of the Roosevelt for the party, and
so we could only go in the valet entrance, and
that's where Will Smith and his entire thing. It was
just yeah, it was like ja jaden will I was
the only one that was conspicuously absent. I don't know

(04:02):
what was the best one. She's like the Tiffany Trump
of the Will Smith. Yeah. Yeah, so that was the
thing that had let me ask you something, was he anything?
Jumped out to you A very tall what the fuck? Man?
I found him to be quite tall. I found him
to be quite short. See that's kind of what my
friends said. But I only looked at him for a
brief second because I already felt like I was in

(04:24):
trouble just for like looking at him. But it was
kind of like to that's what I thought. I thought
he was six too. And then I saw him at
a movie premier years and years ago, was on stilt,
but he I was working, I was working my previous job,
juggling at movie premieres on stilts and he but he

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just seemed like he was more like five tennis five,
which so like not short, like more of average height
compared to I always assumed he was tall, tall man. Anyways,
you totally fucked my world up right there, And this
is our mystery show episode where rather than Jake Jillen Hall,
we're trying to get to the bottom of is Will
Smith tall? Right? Is he really tall? That was no

(05:10):
objective way to prove that the Jake Jillen Hall one.
He ended up being five eleven. I forget what the
number was. It wasn't as important than the ride, right, Yeah,
but that would be my mystery show if I tracked
down Will Smith and go back to back with him
and be like Starle make it. It was sort of
like seeing a cartoon character walk into a room, though,
we'll say that. Yeah, it was interesting, like did you

(05:32):
do a double take? Well, my friend said, look, it's
Will Smith, and I thought he was joking, and then
I looked over and it was was Momith. Yeah. Yeah.
I can still remember seeing Michael Jordan in person when
I was a kid, and like he was just in
a hotel lobby or something, and he put a cigar
out on your head. He said, hey, I hold this kid,

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And then you turned to Charles Oakley and said fuck
them kids as he walked away. Uh No, but it's like, yeah,
it's really like all of a sudden, your world becomes
a movie because your your brain can't like have that
person and not be That was like when I'm at
the Rock at WrestleMania fourteen, and I was fucked up

(06:14):
because I was obsessed with him and he in my
mind he was nine ft ten right, nine feet ten inches.
He was so big, out of outsized. And it's true,
like it depends, I think, on the importance of the
person too. If it's just like you know, fucking what's
that guy's name? Uh Colin Farrell, who I saw like
in a pizza places. He's a small guy, stinks like

(06:35):
cigarettes where the Rock woman cigarettes? I saw him at
Pinks the hot dog places. So he's out here eating
very garbage garbage food, just doing his things. So respect
you call very talented actor who has one of the
most amazing uncanny curses of just every movie he's in tanks.
Have you seen the thing where it's like candid pictures

(06:56):
of celebrities eating hot dogs embarrassingly at like baseball game,
Like well, it just looks like it looks like they
caught him in the worst possible, unattractive moment of eating
a hot dog, which you know, the whole process of
eating there's no way to elegantly eat a hot dog,
especially if you're like me, I'm pro toppings. So that
ship is already falling. It's like a it's a messy disaster.

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I'm saying, is I bet there's a Colin Ferrell one
out there? Of course, have you seen a Tiger Land
movie with him? Yeah, that was a really good performance
by him. That was kind of the one that helped
really be like that was the one that put him on.
If people don't believe me before you tweet at me
and say he's not a good actor, watched Tiger I
remember going into it. I thought it was going to

(07:39):
be like up what Private Ryan was for World War Two,
except for mom. No, it's I was like, wait, this
is a character driven story. It's just very uh you know,
at the time, I think it was like sixteen or seventeen,
modest film, but very you know, his performance is great. Anyways, No,
we're gonna get to know you a little bit better
in a moment. First, we're gonna tell our listeners it's
just a few of the things we're talking about. Uh,

(08:01):
Betsy DeVos. DeVos is an unbelievable funk up. She's a
funk up. Like my pronunciation of her name, I can't
get it right. There's things right, I mean, Davos is
the evil corporation in West World. We should just start
calling her that. Yeah, Betsy Davos. Uh, we're gonna check
out of respect for Davos Seaworth, you know what I mean.

(08:23):
Maybe I got that wrong, but you get that. You
get the Davos is that billionaire meet up too. By
the way, we've come right up to the precipis of
saying there's no wrong way to eat Resa's a couple
of times. Uh, and it's just in the back of
my mind, so I had to itch that scratch. Uh,
we're gonna check in with a whistleblower scandal. There was

(08:44):
an Atlantic article last week that is becoming important in
my mind at least again, where they spoke with the generals,
the people who run the U. S. Military about what
it's like to work for Donald Trump. Like on the
no it was basically, I mean, there's only so many
of them, it's like, but like the Joint chiefs or

(09:06):
it was just I don't know, it was the dude
who wrote black Hawk Down. Yeah, so he like writes
about the U. S Military and likes in the US military,
and he, you know, just spoke with all sorts of
different people in military leadership about kind of getting a general.
It's about in or boding. I do it because it's

(09:28):
like coach Bobby Bowden in Florida State. Yes, the god
h and that part of the world is. We're gonna
ask the question if tides are shifting on how people
feel about the impeachment. We're gonna talk about whether tides
are shifting on how people feel about jerking off to
the Joker. Apparently they are shifting way up. We're gonna

(09:51):
talk about China continuing to bring the hammer down on
people who do fun for a living. We're gonna talk
about Ellen being passed with George. We're gonna talk about
San Francisco rent and how it has led to the
invention of some virtual restaurants. Uh. But first, no, we

(10:11):
like to task our guests, what is something from your
search history that's revealing about who you are? It's joker
sign because there's all these like great like signs that
are like fake signs that are making the rounds about
like not letting go into the Joker movies. So I've
been really enjoying those balls are backed up with come, yes,

(10:31):
you have shot ropes into a woman in the last year.
That's yeah. I just saw like a couple that were
more like no single men. I didn't realize the fine
print the best the best execution was one that like
starts out like a sign that you get like no
single men and like okay, and it has the logo
of the theater chain, but like as you read the
fine print, it gets more and more balls backed up

(10:54):
with com shooting rope. It was the arc Light. Yeah, yeah,
that sounds like in l a rat arousing, very funny.
What is something you think is overrated? I think the
Blair Witch Project is overrated? What my favorite movie? I'm
sorry you guys, I just I recently revisited I remember
Digging when I was a kid, but I remember so
much being made of the creepy ending where the person

(11:15):
is just like facing the wall. And I went back
and rewatching and it's just a person facing the wall.
Understand what what I think? Because I missed something like well,
it was the myth around the providence of the footage
that really separated from that. It's no and you know
it's funny because I bought into it, But I remember
as like, what was that or something? I think, like

(11:36):
when it came out and that scene happened, I was like,
what the funk was that? Like, I remember immediately being like,
nahu this, but everyone's like the ending is so scary
and I don't understand, like the dude was in the corner. Yeah,
I found it scary at I have not gone back
and watched it because I suspect what you're saying is
true and that it's all it's context. But you guys,

(11:58):
I studied film and sometimes it's a out what you
don't show get behind that. I think you dropped your jewel.
U is also shout out to Blair High School, I think,
which is named after the Blair Witch project in Silver Spring,
Maryland named Steve Francis. Steve Francis is old high school,

(12:18):
damn or Blair is like the blood You know, with
my information I have know from that region of Maryland.
Uh connected. Yeah, I can't imagine. The woods are so
big that people are getting lost in there. A lot
no I think for people who lived around there too,
are like, okay, whatever y'all want. Speaking of like hindsight
about movies, I've been doing this fun thing with my
ten year old daughter. I've been watching like bad eighties

(12:41):
horror movies because she's just old enough where like she
just doesn't give a ship. She's not scared because like
the production value so low that it's just a fun thing.
We watched the nineties version of it, like the TV movie,
and it's scared the ship. I mean when I was
a kid, like I had like nightmares and couldn't sleep
for days, and she just laughed the whole way to
maybe feel like a giant pussy was awesome. She literally

(13:02):
called me a giant pussy hit me. Wow. Ten years old,
she's tough, man. But now when we watch Child's Play
the original and that's a lot of fun. If you
haven't seen that in a long time, highly recommends put
on each the Killer now and you're like, yeah, he's
got a new movie coming out, Yeah, yeah that directed. Um.
Has she seen Home Alone too, because I feel like

(13:25):
once you've seen that, you can't look at Tim Curry
this thing. That's a good point. No, she's seen on one.
She's never seen Lost in New Year or Tim Curry's
performance in Congo. Is herre her Molka of Romania? What
is that accent for Romania? She doesn't even Delroy Lindo
has a weird African accent. He's like, stop eating my

(13:46):
sesame cake. This mo where Tim Curry is like nervously
eating all these sesame cakes and del Roy Lindo supposed
to be like this African general and he's clocking him
eating his sesame cake and he's like, stop eating my
sissame cake. See. I was of the age that I
like Jurassic Park came out. I read all of Michael
Crichton's books, but I was like over it by the

(14:08):
time the movies came out, so I don't know all
these lines. Yeah exactly. I didn't even see sphere of
the movie. And I was like, when I was a kid,
I was like, Spears, actually Creton's best, It's funny. I
remember actually hearing that take from people who were like,
it's actually like the books way better and the best thing. Yeah,

(14:28):
nobody ever about the movie was just like the most
expensive B movie ever. It really is just absolute trash.
It was great marketing for pop tents. And it was
also like it was like a burger king tie and
they had like the cups to get the commemorative cups
and everything. And remember that Amy want rain drop drink
I said for Martini. Yeah, no, totally. What is something

(14:52):
you think is under age? I've been really liking shuffleboard lately.
I think it sort of gets a bad rap as
like old people like retirement community. But there's something really
satisfying about like the weight of that little puck or
whatever you just push and being way more coordinated than
your geriatric opponent. That's exactly right. It's funny. I did

(15:12):
shuffle board for the first time on I forget where,
oh in Santa Monica there's an official shuffle board like
park because that's how much the investing of the elderly
in Santa Monica. And I remember trying that for the
first time. I was like, this is gonna be lame,
and it actually there. This when you actually start getting
the feel for it. Well, so that's like a ground version.
There's a tabletop version right right, right right, So I'm

(15:33):
talking about the tabletope like with the wax shave a
little waxy saying whatever. It's like you pushed this kind
of weighted metal puck and I'm talking an old school
shuffle board. That gerald that's the suddenly on the decks
of like cruise ships. Yeah, right, exactly, yeah, the but yeah,
I see that more and more at bars now. It's like,
for sure it's been slowly. I feel like maybe it

(15:56):
was more prevalent on the East coast or something, but
in a huge game, yeah, because slowly now like West
coast bars are doing the thing where it's like, yeah,
we'd have games now like that other one with the
ring in the string in the hook. That's like another
bar game you sell the time. You know, ring hook.
It's like a fucking It's like a long ass string
with like a brass ring attached to it, and there's

(16:17):
like a hook on the other side and you're trying
to like swing it onto it connects to the hook.
It sounds incredible, But I just dumb asked games that
drunk people can play for cornhole? Do they have cornhole here? Yeah?
If you go to like Angel City Brewery, they got
cornwall in the brewery you can play. Yeah. Cornhole's a
lot of fun. Yeah, what is a myth what's something
people think is true, you know, to be false. Well, um,

(16:38):
you know, there's this whole idea of Napoleon complex, which
probably gets a lot of play now with Trump and everything.
But it turns out Napoleon wasn't really that short. He
had this nickname the little corporal Um and his height
was recorded in French feet, which was five ft and
two inches, but that's actually five ft seven in English feet,
so he was actually just a little bit taller than

(16:59):
half frenchman. Yeah wait, what's French feet? I don't know
was that I got it from? You think it was
taken from like like some king's foot back then. That's
a really good point of problem. Well it's like they're like, well,
our king had a bigger foot when I say six
feet six English feet. Yeah, oh so unit of yeah,

(17:19):
units of measurement in France before the French Revolution, so
they had a different set of of measurements. Completely had
to do with Charlemagne, that's all I got. Yeah. That's
interesting though, because that, yeah, I think that was started
by people trying to like slander him or you know,
trying to just shoot on him, and so they were like, here,

(17:40):
we'll start a rumor that he's a tiny, tiny man
and it just was never true, you know. And it's
funny though. This thing just came out on the Independent.
The headline speaks for itself. Napoleon's penis size confirmed. Channel
four documentary calls the artifact quote very small. So that's
you know, they're they're they're they're still trying to st
man how they how they? Why are they allowed to

(18:02):
do that? Exactly? It's a show called Dead Famous n
Still England. Just yea fucking with the friends, be like,
guess what, homie, we exhumed your old leader checked out
his dead mummy dick. Right, are there a lot of
mummies with huge dicks? Like if you're a dick is big.
Still you're a mummy you even if the dehydrated state

(18:25):
of death. Anyway, Welcome to the daily zeitgeist. Yeah, I'm
trying to think, trying to think about other like shitty
rumors that got started about people that's stuck. But like
I know, the let them Eat Cake Marie Antoinette thing
was actually like made up. Basically, it was like the

(18:46):
rabble outside version of her, but she never said that.
Isn't like Caligula one of those people too that the
misinformation about also, like there's because I remember when we
were doing like historical flexes we were thinking about and
I was like, wait, half of these are just bullshit,
like wind up stories from like people after cliicular were like,
he's so dumb. You tried to fight the seat man.

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Who's the leader who fucked a horse? Allegedly Catherine the Great?
I don't know. I always thought it was every every
weird sex animals. Basically, if you're if you're hearing that
a person in power like did something monstrous sexually, that
seems like possibly physically impossible, that that probably was started

(19:28):
by their political rivals. Well like this sense like oh wait,
wasn't his horse going to be a senator or something?
That's think it was maybe the did the horse? Look
how look how we went from talking about Roman leaders
to mummy penises. It's just anyways, we come for the
good stuff. All right, We're gonna take a quick break
and then we'll be right back. And we're back, and

(20:01):
Betsy DeVoss is an unbelievable funk up. Miles take it away,
all right, thanks a lot, Miles Great. Here the older
sister of want to be General Eric Prince and current
Secretary of Education has perhaps landed herself some jail time.
Well maybe it's hard to know because she's a powerful

(20:22):
white person. Uh So jail doesn't necessarily come for these people.
But here's the deal. Okay, so she's in hot water
for basically right now. She could possibly go to jail
or it's possible that she could be held in contempt
of court. Why so, Corinthian College is like a predatory
for profit college that was in all kinds of Kamala
Harris even went after them. Uh and they basically I

(20:43):
think there's They eventually filed for bankruptcy protection that year,
and the federal government uh also ruled that year that
as many as like over three thirty thousand former students
could be entitled to have their debts canceled under the
Borrower Defense to Repayment program. Then Betsy de Vos comes in,
and you know, she doesn't She's like, come on, we

(21:04):
don't need to protect consumers. That's sort of been her
whole theme she has. There has been numerous attempts from
her Department of Education to limit the scope of this
program and also like ignoring over a hundred sixty applications
that were made for loan forgiveness. So people had to
sue because they're like, hello, this was not this isn't
supposed to happen. They're bankrupt, We've already determined that legally

(21:25):
they're not going to come after us for the for
this money, but they were still trying to collect. So
when they sued, all these documents came out that showed
that the Department of Education was still going after people
despite a fucking court order and the presiding judge over
this is just incense. This quote sort of says it says,
at best, it is gross negligence. At worst, it's an

(21:46):
intentional flouting of my order. So you know, I don't know,
sounds like the Trump administration. Yeah. Again, it's it's hard
to know how much is actually like negligence and how
much is like, oh, I don't know. I'm not to
getting in trouble and I'm sort of used to just
doing whatever I want, and now that I have more
power than I ever did, like, I'm going to do

(22:08):
even more when I Yeah. So so now there's gonna
be another lawsuit that the judge is approved to go
forward against Betsy Divas and in that one could ultimately decide, um,
just how negligent she was if they find her to
be in contempt. Is there a sense that she's like
in cahoots with Corinthian College or has like something to
gain from doing this, Like um, just she just being

(22:32):
like dumb. I don't know exactly what the sort of
connections are between her, and it just sort of seems
more of like I'm sure that she's probably friends with
somebody who works there who's very wealthy, right, because they
all that's the we're going to talk later about Ellen
and George W. Bush and like that sort of class
solidarity of the ultra wealthy, and like that is that

(22:53):
is real, you guys. They are consistent, they are loyal,
They will find ways to unfunck the people who are
also ultra wealthy, because that's how you both maintain your
wealth and ensure that like it's protected. Like they they
look out for each other. And so I mean, if
you look at a situation where you feel like there's

(23:14):
no oversight, that's going to hold your hand to the fire,
and the situation is either a hundred and sixty thousand
poor to middle class people or like one ultra wealthy person,
Betsy de Boss, ultra wealthy person is going to look
out for the ultra wealthy person unless you are paying
a lot of attention and threatening to arrest. Yeah. And

(23:36):
what's wild is because of this failure to actually like
honor the court order, a lot of people were getting
like their tax refunds and like wages garnished. So it's
just what the funk man again, it's just another indirect
hit at working people. Yeah, I forgot to add this
to the dock today. But speaking of taxes, did you
see that chart, because like the taxation of like different

(24:01):
wealth different income strata over time, and it's like the
most wealthy in the country are now paying less than
anyone else as like a percentage of their earnings because
they have so many loopholes and they have so many
they can pay people to you know, just lawyer this

(24:22):
ship out of their taxes until they don't have to
pay anything. And the irs was even admitting they're like
it's easier to audit people with less income than it
is the wealthy. So that's why we audit poor people more,
like just plain and simple. It's like it just takes
a lot of people to do that and like right,
and they have more lawyers in than us, and it
doesn't it's not in America's interest to have the I R. S.

(24:43):
B UH super lawyered up because that would interfere with
people's money. What do you think about these eight years
of tax returns that they're demanding from Trump that's obviously
never going to happen in a million years. I mean,
I know that there's a judge in New York that
was basically saying, like, you can no longer act like
because you're the president, you can't. We can't see this

(25:04):
information at least in relation to the hush money case
he's involved in. But I'm sure if the taxes were
filed properly, be very telling. I'm sure if anything, if
they see them, they're going to see a lot of
weird ship that would only lead to other things. But
I mean, clearly that's it's a huge piece of this
puzzle to understand just sort of how his money is
tied up and where it's coming in and going out.

(25:26):
And you know, it's again very similar to the Betsy
divoce thing, and that it's the law just not applying
to them, like they just just act like it doesn't apply,
and so does our next story about the whistleblower scandal. Okay,
so Edwards sand Lynn ambassador to the EU because he

(25:50):
gave Trump a huge campaign donation a million dollars. Absolutely
no background and diplomacy whatsoever, just a wealthy guy who
gave him a big campaign contribution. Uh. He is also
the guy you know him from those texts where um, actually,
should we just read the exact transcript. He's the guy

(26:11):
who was like, we shouldn't be saying this over text message, right.
He after Kurt Vulker testified, which he completely went against
the wishes of the State Department, He's like, I don't
give a funk, I'm going to testify to something. Gave
some texts over and we find out that Edwards soldon.
This guy is also central to all of this as well,
and he's really put laid out the quid pro quo

(26:34):
scheme on fucking wax in text messages to Bill Taylor,
who was another diplomat but one who was like not
appointed by the career person, who's like it was his
like Ukraine policy. Like he's like, I'm here to talk
about this and this back and forth. I mean, when
you Look, when you actually just read this back and forth,

(26:56):
you understand why the President and the State departments like, no,
we have to block his testimony because he gives up
the ghost in it. I'll be I'll be Bill Taylor, okay, uh, okay,
and pretend these are texts. So I am the career diplomat. Uh.
And I'll just say the message to the Ukrainians and
Russians we send with the decision on security assistance is key.

(27:16):
With the hold, we have already shaken their faith in US.
Thus my nightmare scenario counting on you to be right
about this interview, Gordon, Bill, I never said I was
quote right. I said we are where we are, and
believe me, we have identified the best pathway forward. Let's
hope it works. As I said on the phone, I
think it's crazy to withhold security assistance for help with

(27:39):
a political campaign. Okay. Cut to five hours later, before
all these exchanges were happening within minutes TV. So other
fucking Gordon Solon waits five hours with this very interesting
sounding response, clearly lawyered up. Bill, I believe you are
incorrect about President Trump's intentions. The President has been crystal clear,
no quid pro quos of any kind. The president is

(28:02):
trying to evaluate whether Ukraine is truly going to adopt
the transparency and reforms that President Zelinsky promised during his campaign.
I suggest we stopped the back and forth by text.
If you still have concerns, I recommend you give Lisa
Kenna or Asked a call to discuss them directly. Thanks. Yes, yes, yes,
So let's stop discussing this. Are you discussing crimes on

(28:23):
the phone? Yeah, basically the drug dealer from pulp fiction,
wrong number, wrong number, prank calor prank. Yeah, so that
dude clearly knows something at the very least knows what
was happening in these conversations. There was another one where
he was like call me, and then like there was
apparently a conversation, and then the texts resume and it's

(28:45):
clear that they've basically discussed the quip pro quo. So,
I mean, Bill Taylor is not going to be able
to testify under oath without either fucking the Trump administration
or perjuring himself. Yeah. I mean, just that five hour
gap is really great because the tone just changed so
instantly when he literally says it, just says out to

(29:06):
you you're withholding security assistance for help with a political campaign.
That's what he said. Oh shit, because even in the line, yeah,
the President has been crystal clear, like you're saying the
thing out loud that you need to be like the public,
you know, sort of take on what is happening. And
then Trump just continues to like mock the whole idea

(29:26):
of the proceedings anyway with his Twitter response, right like
what he says, he's a really good man and a
great American. He says, I would love to send I
would love to send Ambassador Solon, a really great man
and great American, to testify. But unfortunately he would be
testifying before a totally compromised kangaroo court where Republicans rights
have been taken away. Because that's all completely understood. That's

(29:48):
where Republicans rights have been taken away. Yeah, so damn kangaroos.
And now he's talking about like, let's impeach Nancy Pelosi,
and it's like, does he even know what any of
this means? His His whole tactic is whatever you're saying
to me, I'm gonna just say back to you. It
doesn't matter what it is, if it doesn't make sense,
it's like you're in contempt of court. It's like your

(30:10):
your your contempt of court. Like what you can't impeach me,
impeach you. Yeah, I'm not even I hate peach you,
but yeah, that's the same thing. And like Rachel matt
I was talking about this on the show too, about
how he will repeat words he's being accused of and
give them make them meaningless. Like fake news was the
first thing that people are like, this is act fake
news benefiting the president. Then he became fake news. It's

(30:31):
all this fake news, the fake news media. They're trying
to slander me. It's the fake news. And it made
basically made fake news meaningless to a lot of people,
and those at first we're like, this is actually a
problem we're talking about, you know, intentional deception of people
if you clickbait or whatever. I mean, obviously a lot
of people have their eye on ad revenue. But at
the same time, like that's one of his tactics. And
even with collusion, he was saying, well, they were the

(30:52):
they were the collusion, and then the repetition just sort
of slowly drained, you know, the meaning out of the
world and now it's corruption. So good at just talking
endlessly and saying absolutely nothing that he's essentially like Frobb
words of their meaning, like in rhetoric in general, he'd
be a great podcast guest just hearing bloviate just like
go to a quick hour on this one topic. The

(31:14):
Yankees great, but politicians, like I noticed that I find
myself fastwarding any time a politician is speaking on any podcast,
and it's because they're not real. They're not like it's
it's almost like listening to somebody read a like statement
from their brain, like it's just uh. Stacy Abrams, I think,
is one of the only people who have heard speak

(31:36):
who it's who, like it's actually worth listening to her speak.
Elizabeth Warren kind of has that too. I think all
the people who are not from this traditional political class
or like the you know, the media trained corporatocracy thugs,
you know, they're you know, but Trump is like is
a different version of that, where he's just like, like

(31:57):
we said, it's jazz. He's an old, lonely guy who
wants people to talk to him. But that that method
of accused them of whatever they're accusing you of, you know,
is both our first instinct when We're in elementary school
and say whatever we are is rubber and whatever you
say bounce I I I forget it. Uh, I'm rubber,

(32:19):
you're glue. Whatever you say bounce on me, stick to you.
And I always thought that was stupid. Well it turns
out it is the matrix. It is the code to
hack the universe. I could have been president. Yeah. So
there's this Atlantic article that moving on from the whistleblower
things sort of, there's an Atlantic article that came out
last week that I think is extremely relevant again because

(32:44):
of what happened with Turkey and Trump basically saying we're
gonna withdraw from northern Syria and then coming back and
being like, well, destroy Turkey if they try anything, even
though it was pretty clear that he had agreed to
withdraw because of Key. Anyways, in light of all of
that ship, his pull out method, pull out, putting it

(33:06):
back in. Uh, it's worth taking a look back at
sort of what these generals had to say about, like
why he is uniquely frustrating to work for. And this author, who,
like I said, as the guy who wrote black Hawkdown
just a trusted journalist when it comes to the military,
starts off in the first couple of paragraphs saying, in

(33:27):
twenty years of writing about the military, I've never heard
officers and high positions express such alarm about a president. Uh.
And they identify four problems that really it's like them
trying to systematize and like make official these things that
are just like absurd. One, he just stands expertise. Yeah,

(33:49):
no problem, He just just stands expertise. And also, I
think even if you pull, if you zoom out even further,
he does not like military people, right, because they see
him for what he is, because in the back of
his mind he's still a draft dodger. And I think
he's always had this weird beef with like anyone who's enlisted. Well,
but he likes generals, generals he respects, but he doesn't

(34:12):
like non vets who are coming by to say, like, hi,
Agent Orange really fucking harmed our lives irreversibly. And he's like, no,
you're talking about something else that wasn't from the movie
Apocalypse now right, remember that little showdown. Remember when he
was like, I like people that didn't that don't get captured, Yeah, right,
exactly like coming from him. I mean, that's just just

(34:33):
so the author points out that what Trump and his
supporters referred to as the deep state in the world
of national security is actually a vast reservoir of knowledge
and global experience that presidents probably shouldn't be ignoring. And
it's not like these are like the security state is

(34:54):
not like a bunch of progressives, Like they are the
typically the most conservative of people in the government, but
they're too progressive apparently for Trump. Um. They also just
kind of compare Trump to you know, military officials who
have been uh, you know, in in the war rooms

(35:14):
with George Bush, Barack Obama, and Trump say that with
regards to temperament and policy preferences, Bush and Obama were
actually remarkably alike, which bad news for Obama apologists. They
both they both didn't care for innocent people die. But Trump, meanwhile,

(35:34):
is just ignores everything and basically is uh, the sentence
is pretty good. Despite commanding the most sophisticated intelligence gathering
apparatus in the world, this president prefers to be briefed
by Fox News and then arrives at decisions without input
from others. Right, it's like a weird like feedback loop
to write, because they're like reporting ship that they think

(35:56):
he will like, and then he's getting his news from
them and they're getting their news from him. I don't
even understand, but I think that is. I think that's
about what it is though. It's how celebrities like. He's
our first celebrity president in the sense that, like Everyboden,
everybody around him is telling him exactly what he wants

(36:17):
to hear. He doesn't have like, well, it's that, and
he's not willing to acknowledge that he doesn't know what
he doesn't know. Uh. The next week point is he
trusts only his own instinct. Yeah. Uh. And the other
one is he resists coherent strategy. Well, and that's where
he's completely failing as a commander, right, like to not
to basically just put the lives of these soldiers at

(36:40):
risk based on a whim, not even consulting properly to
know that. The bad side of this is the stakes
are absolutely life and death for these people that you're
just like, I don't know whatever Turkish president wants sense
of personal sacrifice, he just can't conceive them. And I
can't imagine that like for people who support him and
also really do have you know, family or have served

(37:02):
themselves would say this is actually a good strategy, like
someone who is just so unwilling to even look at
the context of these decisions. Uh, you know, full Seama.
But they go back to this uh thing that happened
December nine, eighteen. Uh when he I thought they were
talking about actually what was happening in the news, like

(37:22):
at the beginning of this week, but he said America's
defeated ISIS time to bring the troops home from Syria.
And it was actually in the midst of like one
of the most critical fights that America was having with ISIS,
and you know, they needed a consistent troop presence too,

(37:43):
like keep the momentum going. And he was like, no,
we're gonna pull him out, and it was like it
was just so out of line with what was actually
happening on the ground. And then they also point to
the Iran thing and just how close we came to
going to a enormous war, like that last second decision

(38:04):
he made to not be launch an attack, right. They
point out that like the fact that we were also
relieved obscured the gravity of his original decision and how
close he came to basically starting a war without any
end point that would have been more costly and you know,
cost more lives than the Iraq War. It's yeah, it's

(38:25):
like the same strategy a kid has when they're just
going to hit a beehive with a stick. Yeah, it's like,
I'm gonna smash that ship and there's no plan for
after it hits the ground and the bees come after you. Yeah.
Well it's like, yeah, I'm gonna let me fucking smash
this beehead. But the generals are saying, like you know,
they it's it's worth reading this article because this general

(38:46):
is just like sitting there like talking about like how
this almost happened over a drone, right, Like that is
just he couldn't like even wrap his mind around it.
Um anyways, is any of this changing anything? I don't
know how that you say that, boy, I mean there's
a lot of Look, the polls is something that Trump

(39:08):
is really looking at when I think also is feeding
this kind of behavior to right, because he's made it
clear like he's doing the things like you'll never impeach me,
but is also obsessed with like his fear of impeachment
is very real. He even told like Republicans like he
didn't want it on his resume, Like, okay, just like that,
but he could just leave it off resumes work. I'm like,

(39:31):
have you ever written a resume, sir? I don't think so.
You're one of your that class of person who has
been able to get jobs without ever even being able
to type UM. So right now, the polls are moving again.
Right now, the support for impeachments attent with UH supporting
removal from office UM and that number has not been shrinking.

(39:53):
And if you compare stats from a poll that was
in July, from before any of this controversy, the total
movement boards impeachment has been growing, support growing for twenty
five points among Democrats, twenty one points among Republicans, and
twenty points among this independence. And then another thing to
point out is his rating among Republicans actually dropped four points.

(40:14):
His approval waiting sorry, which has been pretty much like
in the nineties, but this finally went to which is
a little interesting. And I think again, when you look
at all of this stuff too, and this latest just
complete disaster of a decision to try and pull out
of Syria, you're starting to see the GOP like all
suddenly in unison be like no that's bad. That's bad.

(40:36):
We finally have a thing we can speak up on
to criticize the president because we don't want to. No
one wants to dip their foot in the impeachment water.
But listen to the unhinged tone of this tweet. I
thought it was a joke. I saw a screenshot of it,
and I thought it was like doctor be goes. As
I have stated strongly before, and just to reiterate, if
Turkey does anything that I, in my great and unmatched wisdom,
considered to be off limits, I will totally destroy and

(40:57):
obliterate the economy of Turkey enthasies I've done before. Uh huh,
it's your it's he's That's where he's at. Man, He's
like pointing the level that he's having to now look
at himself to whether this storm is now like, oh,
I'm an omniscient god. And that's where I think rendering
that phase of this before. It's he's omniscient, omnipotent, who

(41:19):
knows what else he believes? And so now what's happened
is you're starting to see like Tucker Carlson over the
weekend basically described the president's actions as indefensible, which section
all this ship around the was just the military. No,
He's been saying no, like this is this is before
even the military stuff, like if it was on Friday

(41:40):
or something. He penned it and was saying like it's indefensible,
and apolog judge of Politano on Fox is saying this
is impeachable shit. Um. And now there's Romney, who he
actually might I don't know, he's starting to he might
have some more power going into this impeachment process because
you know, if you remember his whole arc right when
Trump was being when he was running for the nomination,

(42:03):
he was like, this guy is a fucking con man,
and he's like, and the GOP will suffer greatly for
embracing this man. Then he had to fucking change his
to and real quick. When Trump won, he like begged
at a dinner, He's like, can I be Secretary of State?
And ha ha it was Rex Tillerson. Uh, And I
can't believe that was a thing that felt like eons

(42:23):
ago when Rex Tillerson was the Secretary of State. Um. So,
now that Romney's in the Senate, he's been very, very
well somewhat vocal of at least being the most critical
I've heard from people on the right about the Trump
or about the President's actions, and they're saying, um, you know,
according to this like Vanity Fair article, talking to a
few GOP donors who are really fed up with Trump.

(42:45):
Quote donors have in recent days called the Utah senator
and encouraged him to run against Trump in the primary.
There is a half billion dollars on the sidelines from
guys who are fed up with Trump. A GOP donor said, um,
And there are some polls that say, saying hypothetical primary,
Romney beats Trump fifty seven to thirty seven. But he's
not interested in that at all. I think he according

(43:06):
to this article too, he's a two time loser when
it comes to president ship. He's not feeling it. He's
the wrong guy, and he thinks he can actually be
a little more of an impact in the Senate. So
I don't know if like this is his like revenge
arc for it to be like, no, I can do
some damage from here because I can sway moderates like
Susan Collins or Ben Sass those kinds of And also

(43:27):
he won't let himself lose a primary, right like they're
the states are going to change the law. Well yeah,
and also I think he just realizes to the base
like he's going to be going up against Trumpers and
like he's not even interesting in that. That's it scares
me a little bit for there to be like a
Romney contingent that is involved with getting him out of office,
because Romney is like just such the ultra wealthy guy

(43:51):
who represents like ultra wealthy interests of the Republican Party.
And if you have that being the thing that is
ultimately possible for bring him down, then Trump can appeal
to his populism and just be like, it's a class war.
I can't believe it. Look what they're doing to the
working people, right, you know what I mean? How much
is a guy on the milk cost with like two bucks? Right? Uh?

(44:17):
Fuck over on Fox News on their satellite radio station. Uh,
they're just talking about how this is totally backfiring on
the Democrats. Uh. The impeachment, well, impeachment if they if
they vote to impeach, I can promise you this, Miles.
If they vote to imp impeach, no Democratic House member

(44:37):
wants to do that because then everybody's just gonna vote
him out of office because they support the president, and
it's what's the point of even impeaching him because when
it gets to the Senate, Mitch McConnell is not even
gonna bring it up for a vote. We'll see. I mean,
the problem is the two the Democrats are all trying
to do that trade deal, that Canada America Mexico deal,

(44:58):
like because they want to have something done, because they
they're trying to shield themselves from this criticism. It's like
they're so focused on this. I don't understand why they're
doing this, because it's the evidence is there, you should
really begin to do this impeachment process like properly. But
now they're doing the thing like, well, let's maybe make
a deal on this other thing too simultaneous. They can

(45:18):
get it done, but I think the timing though, like
there they need to actually move like they're too worried
again because this this move is born out of the
idea that the people that the boogeyman that Fox News
raises like, well you better watch out because these Dems
in these other places they're gonna get fucking clawbered. I mean,
I don't know if the numbers are quite there to
support that theory. More so that they want to give

(45:40):
these vulnerable or or people who have recently flipped districts
the cover to say, what, we passed this deal too. Um.
And I think also, but when you look at just
how the momentum is growing and growing for this, it's
not nearly as unpopular as they're even beginning to think. Now.
I think that's the thing they're not weighing. It's still
like this sort of like six month to go mentality

(46:01):
of like, oh, like less than people are supporting of it, right, Yeah,
just something to think about, something to think about. Why
we take this break and we're back and uh, let's

(46:24):
get into the real important news of the day. What
is trending on porn? Uh? Yeah, why I'll trying to
watch The Joker? Smash? That is the question? Uh, so
to be or not to be? Why I'll trying to
watch The Joker. Apparently this happens every time a comic
book movie comes out. People see a movie and then
immediately want to watch that character fu somebody else. Uh.

(46:47):
This movie in particular seems like the most disturbing. I
don't know, like that it is the least sexy movie
I think I've ever seen there's a part where he
there's like a love in trist Ish part that was
like distractingly out of place to me. I was just like,
what the funk is happening? Why would he's like not

(47:08):
regarding him in any sexual capacity just doesn't even seem
to play into like the themes of the movie. But
apparently I think this ties into an overall uh sort
of fetish of clowns and like Harley Quinn, Well, I
mean there's also that cycle of violence and sexual release
that you used to radicalize people too, Like I mean

(47:29):
not to read into it like that, but you get
so fucking worked up, and then there's like you're like,
oh I get my violence and I get my sexual release.
Or there are people who are just like I really
want to see the Joker smash because either's something about
this character that is so hot to me. Like porn
hub says, they track like what people are searching for,

(47:50):
like they track your fantasies. Does that mean they like
put out a call for like content that fits this
ship or like, how is there all of a sudden
so much joker porn? Well, though, it's just that people
were looking for it on porn Hubble it doesn't necessarily
exist yet They're just like, yeah, so on uh no,
the thing you have to understand all all possible porn exists. Yeah,

(48:11):
but they say over seven searches involving the word joker
in the first four days following the film's release. Yeah,
and then the first the biggest day was Sunday when
they saw six d twenty eight searches for a clown
getting down. So is this like presumably before or after
people have seen the movie? I don't know. See that's
hard to know too. Are some people like, man, before

(48:31):
I see this, I got a joke off to the
porn version, and then I'll see the movie by how
much I want to fuck the joker? And after they
see this very like bummery kind of non sexy movie,
then they're like, okay, this is my this is like
all right, I'm into this. Yeah, let me see if
there's a porn. Did you like it? I was. I
still don't know how I feel about it from nightmares.

(48:52):
It gave me nightmares for like the like literal like
political nightmares. Um So I guess it was effective. I
think it tapped into something but didn't make you honey baby,
nice best Awestime Powers quote in uh in years loved it.

(49:13):
Michael Moore like loved it, praising He says it's a
masterpiece and that it's like dangerous if you don't see it.
That's what he said. I do think it's worth seeing,
just like as a cultural moment, Like I read this comic.
Felix Bitterman from Choppout trap House like wrote a review
of it for one of the blogs and was just like,

(49:35):
it's a mediocre ship nothing movie that people are reacting
to because they just their brains are broken. But I
I didn't find maybe my brain is broken, but I
didn't find it to be like pointless or like a
mediocre movie. I found it to be like I I
get what the significance is. I don't know if it's
I don't know how Like there's there's huge political questions

(49:57):
tied up and like how I feel about it overall.
But yeah, well, let's not distract from the fact that
Harley Quinn is actually the most searched character video game,
comic or otherwise of all time video game, movie or
comic ever, searched higher than like Jessica Rabbit, higher than

(50:18):
other rabbit. Uh that Bunny you know that's let's I mean,
some things are pure, but yeah, I think yeah, cartoons
are not gonna work. I feel like Lara Croft. I
wonder who's the number two? Yeah, Harley Quinn, Laura Croft, Batwoman, Catwoman,
rat woman or like yeah, keep going that woman that

(50:39):
fan yeah from last comic standing. Probably all right, let's
talk about China. Uh, China. We love China, moving, we
love China, thank you so much. No, so the you know,
China's hammer continues to fall on anybody who vocalized any

(51:00):
support for the protesters. Uh In, Trey Parker and Matt
Stone also got their their episode band and then they
just doubled down with the most fuck you apology. We
love China, like James Like they're like just like the NBA,
we welcomed Chinese censors into our homes and into our
hearts and j jimping does not look like Winnie the Pooh. Yeah.

(51:23):
Adam Silver issued a second statement supporting his team and
players right to express themselves while standing by their fans
in China, and China basically wasn't having it and canceled
two games there. Uh so that's a double l for
Adam Silver, and that like he he tried to have
it both ways and looked like an asshole, and then

(51:45):
China wasn't having it anyways. But meanwhile Blizzard uh didn't
even funk around him pretend they supported free speech. Player.
In a postgame interview, voice support for the Hong Kong
pro protester was calling it the revolution of air time
and he was immediately banned for a year, vacated all

(52:06):
his prize money, and the people interviewing him during the
postgame interview, who it should be noted ducked when he
said what he said, and I said, as if he said,
hold on, I right, like they jumped under the table. Uh.
They were being guilty by association. They were fired, they
were and they were so they were announced. So that's

(52:29):
that's where we're at with China, and they're for a
player of a game called Hearthstone, Yes, hearth Stone uh
and radical uh super producer DJ Daniel was saying that,
like the numbers on how many people watch streaming video
games on like you know, like the National Championship the

(52:51):
World for Legal Legends Bro for l O L Legal Ledge,
the numbers are wild, dude. Yeah, it was like two
million people at peak streaming it. If you take China
out of the equation streaming it concurrently two million people
like live stream without China numbers without China, and then
you add China seven million. Okay, cool, So it's I

(53:12):
guess that's I guess. Can we eat that check? Not?
I mean, that's really all it is, right, every company
that does business with China, like over this kind of
ship they're showing at the end of the day, like
we're really concerned with that revenue stream, even if it
means like we're gonna punish American citizens for standing with
a pro democracy movement, Like what the fuck? And I
think there's eventually, right, I feel like American consumers are

(53:35):
gonna start to be like, what the who's this for?
Like is this we're America? Like you have fans here
in the US too, or like we culturally we feel
like we can say this kind of ship, or we
can speak out in supportive things like this. And it's funny, like,
you know, I wonder at a certain point if there
will be a company's like, you know what, we don't
need your money, right, But I don't know if that's
the case because it's such a huge chunk of business

(53:58):
that it would really require people to like checked themselves
and be like, is money really the important thing that happens? Yeah, exactly,
and then that's all we see around as it goes.
That's right. Money is our god. So if they're threatening
our god, we will do whatever we have. I mean,
I think you know, that's why the upcoming generation like
drastically prefers socialism to capitalism. And like I was listening

(54:20):
to fifty year old Bill Simmons and Chuck Closterman like
talk about that fact, and they were just like blown
away that, like almost talking about it, like it was
like a joke to them, Like, how could that possibly
be the case that that meant? Well, there's a difference,
right the boomers gen xer is even millennials a certain extent.
We grew up in a time where we saw a
lot of expansion, a lot of good times. Fucking if

(54:41):
you were a kid in the eighties, the chance if
you were middle class parents were doing well, that's a
different environment like where we're in. Oh, ship's possible cut
to now there's just this nihilism about the economy and
what the future helds for you. So your your tune
is very different we're not bopp into the same music
as them, and you're like, what the heck? They don't
like this? And there was a built in like duality

(55:02):
where America versus Communism and communism was connected to socialism
and communism was proven not to work and therefore, you know,
it's like I think people just had uh kind of
solved in their mind at that point and are like, wait,
why are the all these kids? We even see it

(55:22):
in like Kylie Jenner's Instagram recently she was flexing with
all her fucking range Rovers and like Muscler supercars and
ship and people in the comments are like, we get it.
What the funk? They're like what is this? They're like
that that one car could have saved a fucking village,
like and it was weird that, Like that's sort of
what is in the comments of something like this, where
normally this is people are like worshiping celebrity, and now

(55:44):
is like that change, like tone changing, because people like, yeah,
I'm never gonna afford that, so fuck you, Brett. I mean, like,
I have a ten year old daughter and she is
constantly refusing people. She's constantly calling people out for weird
flexes like that, Like she uses the word it's gross.
It's just not cute anymore. And right, she's tent and
she gets it. Yeah, and she's just over and she
gets the political climate too in her own way, and
it's just like so fed up with this kind of stuff.

(56:06):
And she's not like a bummed out kid or anything,
but it's just you can definitely see it shifting, right, Right,
is it cool if we have your daughter on the
podect Yeah, she's so cool. I love the idea of
a ten year old being like not cute anymore. Guys.
It's like, oh, you guys are into podcasting. Huh you
guys my dad's friends. Uh, she's way cooler than me.

(56:28):
She'd be great, uh. Ellen Ellen the de Generous was
spotted by football fans paling it up with George W.
Bush uh and they all thought it was cool, but uh,
not not so cool. So people noticed this and start
making the rounds on social media. Not only was she

(56:49):
sitting next to him, they were talking and laughing, and uh,
she you know, got some angry tweets, and she also
got like one nice tweet which she read on air
on The Ellen Show about how this makes me believe
in America again, and then I think we have a
clip of her explanation. People were upset. They thought, why

(57:09):
is a gay Hollywood liberal sitting next to a conservative
Republican president. I didn't even notice. I'm holding the brand
new iPhone eleven and but a lot of people were mad,
and they did what people do when they're mad. They
tweet and uh, but here's one tweet that I loved.
This person says Ellen and George Bush together makes me
have faith in America again. Yeah, I guess that's how

(57:33):
a Bush supporter would feel, right, pat yourself on the back. Thing.
I'm friends with George Bush. In fact, I'm friends with
a lot of people who don't share the same beliefs
that I have. We're all different, and I think that
we've forgotten that that's okay, that we're all different. Because
I wish people wouldn't wear fur. I don't like it,
but but I'm friends with people who wear fur, and
I'm friends with As a matter of fact, I have

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friends who should tweet more, and I I have. But
just because I don't agree with someone on everything doesn't
mean that I'm not going to be friends with him.
When I say one another, I don't mean only the people.
What's the same way that you do. I mean, be
kind to everyone, even people who destabilize an entire region
of the country and threw it into utter chaos and

(58:13):
causing countless trauma for our own people and the countless
millions around the world under false under fucking false pretenses, millions.
That's like, I don't see, and this is what happens
to Like, I bet these presidents they're always waiting, Like
George Bush is quite rooting for Donald Trump. He's like, cause, man,
the second this motherfucker gets in, they'll start forgetting about me.
I can start rehabilitating my image. I'm yucking it up

(58:35):
with Ellen degenerous. Yeah, but have you seen his paintings.
They're pretty solid. Yeah, dude, he's really chilly. Like it
turns out he's maybe not, may not be like a
vicious war criminal. I don't know. I mean, you hague
to see it. It's just like, fucking it's just so
disturbing because then that's really it's like that succession type

(58:55):
world where it's like, you know, at a certain level,
you get so rich off the backs of people that
that's actually your true common ground. It's really not your
political beliefs. It's the fact that you're so rich. That's
how I relate to people, and that's how I can
dismiss this other ship. Yeah, I was really I was
reading a profile of this like Voice of the People journalist.
I forget what his name is, but he uh, the

(59:18):
journalist was with him when he saw in culture in
a airport and they like fist bumped each other. We're
just like, yeah, what's up, Like we're tight, um, we're
getting my knee. That's I don't know that either of
them are ultra rich, but the ultra rich similarly have
that sort of solidarity. Right. I'm reading a book about

(59:42):
tax shelters right now and how they are basically, you know,
they're the reason that the tax the effective tax rate
for the ultra wealthy has just gone to be the
lowest in America. Um. And you know, this person's argument
is there are ways to solve that, but really wealthy

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people and moneyed interests in America are working really hard
to make it seem like, well, that's just gonna happen.
There's always gonna be a certain percentage don't pay pay
our taxes. And you know that this book does a
really good job of proving that that's not the case
and coming up with some solutions. I'll link off to
it in the footpe is it maybe also people are

(01:00:25):
upset about this because it really just points to the
fact that Ellen degenerous just somebody that sort of plays
a character on a TV show, necessarily this bast jet
of like liberal you know, holiness kind of definitely not.
I mean, I don't think there's been anything very essentially
that hyper progressive about her. I mean, she's just sort
of like normalizes a lot of weird people. And this

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is just another example. Her last stand up special was
called Relatable in the first run, which was actually pretty
funny because it was like self aware. She was like
acknowledging how unrelatable her life is and how you know,
she's just crazy wealthy and nothing in her life is
like the people in the audience is life. But like
even in that monologue that we played, you heard her

(01:01:12):
uh talk about like, you know, some of my friends
were first there's there's something that's relatable, but yeah, not
like you know, you guys all, for instance, probably feel
conflicted about fur, but a lot of your friends were
furs exactly. I mean, look chinchilla is fine. It's the
minks that I'm really concerned. Yeah, and you guys get that.

(01:01:34):
I'm sure you mean you hate to see it? You
hate to see it? Well, No, it's been a pleasure
having you man, man, always a pleasure. Ice to be
in the actual room and not on the speaker phone.
This has been great. How do we smell so good? Good? Yeah?
Where can people find you? Follow you? You can find
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That's great. Uh. That is in my liked category as well.

(01:02:18):
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song we ride out on my Aslow not Gonna be today.
This is a track from a French artist from the
eighties who you know it was getting down in New
York City named Lizzie Mercier de Clu. And uh, this

(01:04:09):
track is called Slipped Disc and it's like apparently the
scene was called the No Wave scene. I didn't realize that.
But it's got a lot of like good like world
rhythms and things like that, and um it's I don't know,
like when you hear you're like it is pretty timeless
in a way. Um, and it's a great vibe. So
check out Lizzie Mercy de Clu. Are you familiar with

(01:04:32):
I know, the No Way scene. This is what we're
playing in the Officer just kind of discuss I did
play one track of hergilar yeah, because that was a
cover of Arthur The Crazy World of Arthur Brown was
on fire, the like, yeah, that was her hit that
was covering Yea Yet we were talking about earlier about
how the eighties disco scenes, just the early eighties, late

(01:04:53):
seventies and having a moment right now, I'm a fan
yah yeah, yeah yeah. A lot of good tracks on
the Rich Jumpstone soundtrack. Uh. And also there's this underground
movie Joker that came out that said in late seconds,
Uh yeah, check it out. All right, that's gonna do
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