Julian Assange: Worst House Guest, The Murderer’s Story Checks Out 10.18.18

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season fifty three, episode
four of The Daily Night Guys for Thursday, October eighteenth,
two thousand eighteen. My name is Jack O'Brien. A kay,
do you have the time to listen to O'Brien? There Ah,
there we go. That was courtesy of Steve on Twitter.
He was like, surely you meant to do this one.

(00:22):
He did that Green Day song. Anyways, I'm thrilled to
be joined as always by my co host, Mr Miles.
That's your love is my love, my love, this your
love and all love this Miles O. Whoa to be real?

(00:45):
Just got to be real anyway, that's hannasult this coming
at you. That one. I just had to let you
know that. Uh yeah, I have pipes. Yeah man, that
was Mariah Carey f Well, you know, I try to
thank you so much and I've I've unanimously known as
the most annoying person to karaoke with, just so you

(01:05):
know like that. Well, we're thrilled to be joined in
our thirty by the very funny Daniel rat For Thanks
for having me. What's up? Welcome back to back. We
got to karaokee sometimes. Oh I have a bunch of
mom What do you start with when you Usually I
usually start with a Piece of My Heart by Janis Joplin,
and then I go from there. So you can sing, uh, yeah,

(01:29):
I can sing. I'm not not good enough to be anything,
but good enough to like should enough to kick a
Janis jothaulin song. Start with good enough to like go
to karaoke and have people be like, oh, you should
audition for something that's good. That's gonna being good at karaoke.
I have people telling me to shut the funk up,
like afterwards, like you have to come with Derek, like
that's our things. Oh, he can do anything. He sucks,

(01:50):
he's so good. I hate him. Oh is he good singer?
He's stupid good. It's annoying. Oh that's right. I think
on the first episode or one of them, he hopped
in into a little vocal thing. We're like, oh, look
at you. It's like it's genuinely very upset. He's really
really good anything boys to men. He does a lot
of queen I hate him. Yeah, well, our fans love him,
so he's a good guy. He's good that are talking about, right?

(02:16):
Former guests His boyfriend first date was karaoke really well,
all right, Danielle. We're going to get to know you
a little bit better in a moment, But first we're
gonna tell our listeners what this show is all about.
The goal of the show is. We're trying to tell
you what the nation is thinking and talking about today,
taking a dive into America's and sometimes the rest of

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the worlds shared unconscious using the headlines, box office reports,
uh TV ratings, what's trending on Google and social media,
and today we are talking about Julian Osange just world's
worst roommate. We're gonna talk about Drudge being at it
again with this, you know, telling people that the Democrats

(03:02):
are physically assaulting people. You're even having trouble articulately. We're
gonna talk about the latest developments in the Saudi madness,
all the ship that's going on over there, the audio
recording that has just been confirmed by the New York Times,
which is just fucking horrifying. We're gonna talk about Turning Point,

(03:25):
because that is an interesting group. We talked about them
a couple of months ago, how they are trying to,
you know, infiltrate the colleges of the United States with
their conservative agenda and h white nationalists. White nationalist is
probably more accurate. We're gonna talk about how Robert Mueller

(03:46):
is going to save us all from all this madness
and it will all be over soon. Right. Nope, No,
that's not happening. I just write what I hope things
will happen. But never mind, Yeah, we'll see happens. Yeah,
we're gonna be talking about TV rating some new shows,
the b ET Awards, being kind of dope, all of

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that and more. But first, Daniel, what is something from
your search history that is revealing about who you are?
What is the last thing I searched the Spanish word
totos um, Yes, because someone tweeted this morning about how
George Lopez, I guess, got into a fist fight or
an altercation with like Trump. Dude. I haven't read the

(04:28):
whole thing, but someone tweeted it with the caption his
hands are rated tea for totos So I had to
make sure I had anybody can catchy can catch George Lopez? Is?
What was it like at a show or something? I
don't know. I didn't get a chance to read like
it was literally as I was going into the train,

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to come here. I saw it, and I think furious.
The last thing I do before the train cuts off
my um my airbet was up totos. Yeah, George Lope
has gotten a fight with an alleged Trump supporter at Hooters.
No no, no, no no, no, that's that's legit, CBS Los Angeles.

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Fox News is reportering a I don't know, is that
the Burbank one is Anta Monica one every now and
in that sentence gets so much better. George George alleged
supporters alleged like what what was his like maga hat,
like blurry or something? Right, Yeah, it's not clear. Oh
that Like the reporting could be that it was over

(05:31):
that or could have just been that, you know, George
was not happy with his service or something. The alleged
headline is from Fox News, so they might just be like,
you have to prove to us that you're a real
Trump supporter. You gotta get beat into the Mega gang
if you're if Fox News is going to consider you
a Trump supporter. Yeah you did get beat in. Yeah,
talk spicy to him. He's not one to play with.

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What is something that you think is overrated? Daniel Closure,
specifically the idea that other people owe you closure, or
that other we can even provide closure for you. It's
just something that I saw in the timeline for this week,
and I don't even remember why, but the idea a
bunch of people, you know, it's you know, uh, for
relationship ends or a friendship ends or something that that

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idea of like, oh, well, you gotta give me closure,
I want to quote, you know, And it's like, as
we saw from Hurt Bay, you don't need to have
closure necessarily, Like that's something that you've got to work
on in yourself and no one owes you that and
they can't give it to you. You can give it
to you. You know that. I was in a very
similar situation, like in college when I got out of
relationship and I was broken up with and I was

(06:37):
never really given an explanation, Like I just kept hearing
from her friends and like, well she wants this. I'm like,
can I she around to talk? She can't. And for
the longest time, I was like I need I was
in my mind, I was like I need closure or something.
And then it got to a point of like why
am I looking for an explanation from someone else about
a situation I'm involved in when clearly they're gonna tell
me the version based on what is in their head,

(06:59):
what they're feriencing, and that is not what my reality is. Like, Yeah,
you're right, I need to reconcile this internally, right, and like,
and yeah, obviously, if you're dating someone, ghosting is crap.
It's not kind. But you can't control other people who
can only control you. And so if you're left in
that situation with someone who you know ghosted or for
whatever reason, just wanted to back away and not do

(07:21):
the hard, messy part of actually having the conversation, I
mean that's up to you. You can't ask, you know. Yeah,
And and that also, that doesn't mean that that person
doesn't suck if they do ghost you or do it
in a way that's like not kind. But at the
end of the day, you have to take responsibility for
your feelings. Yeah, right, That means your power is now

(07:41):
arresting in someone else's you are actually you are giving
away your power at that point, bring it back in
power yourself up. Yeah, I feel like you're adding significance
to a thing that you need to be working on
getting past. I guess if you're just focusing on closure,
You're continuing that narrow in your mind and in your

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life as opposed to just you know, any breakup I've
ever had a hard time getting over. There was never
a thing like some interaction I had with the person
that then made it okay again or something like that.
It was just like, oh, yeah, and then I saw
that person three years later and I was over it
because that was yeah, because that's how time works, and

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uh yeah, so just just let yourself heal. What is
something you think is underrated therapy? I'm glad that, like
we're all talking about it more online and other places. UM,
but yeah, I just can't stress how good therapy is.
I've taken some time off for a while just because
it was really expensive, and then I found like a

(08:46):
counseling center here, so I've been working with a counselor,
which is great. And you know, people are poor, so
it's not always possible to get the really good, expensive therapy.
But see if you can find you know, uh, there's
lots of sliding scale places that are more than willing
that there's always a student that needs to learn um

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and so they will do it under guidance of other counselors, um,
there are usually options, and so you know, if your
brain needs a little bit of extra leven you need,
you know, and also if nothing else, it's just nice
to have someone who's paid to listen to you for
fifteen minutes, right, and you don't have to think like, well,
this is my friend and they're they're gonna do all
this other stuff about me and prejudge what you're saying.

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You just go in the room and be like to someone.
It feels so good. I mean, if you have never
been to therapy or counseling anything like that, I cannot
recommend enough. Even if you're like, well, I'm not like,
I'm good. You'd be surprised at all the things that
we have in our subconscious that slowly can come out
as we talk to somebody about a given issue. Yeah,
we're little computers and our brains are constantly picking up

(09:49):
all of these new things that affect the way our
processes work, and you might not even realize it until
you're talking to someone and then you make a connection
between this thing and that thing that you wouldn't have
even realized was there, and it's really freeing. Yeah, what
do you guys think of you're talking about, uh, you
know how expensive it is. Do you have any experience
with support groups like free versions of therapy where you

(10:11):
just talk to a big group of people you don't know.
I don't. It seems I could see how something like
that would work. I don't want to take you know,
because I feel like when you see those things that
it's stuff that you've seen on TV or whatever, and
it's not necessarily how it does work. I could see
how something like that would be very useful for people.
I have never done one. Um, because um, I want

(10:36):
all the attention on me. You start interrupting other people
and they're like and when my mother, yeah, thank you,
thank you so much. Can we get back to me? Really,
I have a feeling that I stay away from darker
color of clothing because of my grandmother said to me, like,
I'm sorry, this is the support group for dementia, and

(10:57):
oftentimes those you can find those also just free where Yeah, yeah,
it's not accomplishing the same thing, but it's accomplishing a
similar thing. And yeah, especially if you're one of those
people who even opening up to a therapist might be hard,
those kind of groups could be good because a lot
of times if you explain, like, hey, I'm not really
a big talker, even being there and kind of absorbing

(11:18):
it and listening could help you. Oh, it immediately decreases
your sense of isolation when you're like especially if it's
like the support groups for very specific things. If you know,
it's not necessarily like I can't get over my relationship
support group, but you might have other factors in your
life that are adding to some kind of negative thoughts
or whatever negative emotions, and to be in a room
with other people experience the same thing, like yeah, even

(11:39):
if you don't talk, it, I think eventually will give
you the courage to speak, because, yeah, it's good to
know that you're not alone. Yeah, I think that was
one of the reasons why um and I don't know
what they're doing now because they've changed everything. But when
weight Watchers was a huge thing, I think that most
of what made that work was that you had that
weekly time to talk with other people and kind of,

(12:00):
you know, download all your feelings and have other people
with you who are kind of commiserating and who could
hold you kind of accountable. And yeah, you felt like
you were checking in with on a regular basis. Yea,
And I think that was probably the thing about that
particular program that if it does work for people, that's
the part of it that works. We all know that
most diets like don't work for people, But if there

(12:22):
was a part of it that does, that's the part
of it. Yeah. There's a book that I've talked about
before on the show that its name is Escaping Me
right Now, But it talks about how like social interaction
is a really underrated mental health tool. And um, they
talk about these people who basically cured their depression by

(12:42):
having a group where they met regularly and they were
all like various levels of depressed and they just like
started a project where they were like gardening in the
middle of the city and for all these different reasons,
just having this common goal and constant interaction with other
people like kind of fixed them. But it was critical of,

(13:03):
you know, some of the mental health solutions we use.
It was called dianetics action man. Yeah, what is a myth? Finally?
What is something most people think it's true that you
know to be false. This is something that has come
up personally for me. Most people that you see or
listen to on podcasts or see on like YouTube or

(13:25):
see whatever. We're not rich, you guys. I was in
the train tunnel, i want to say a few months
back at Union Station, and a security guard came up
to me and was like, hey, like, I've right he
recognized me from screen junkie YadA YadA YadA, and he
was like, what are you doing here? And I was
like taking the train home and he was like, well,
don't you like assumed you would have like a yeah, yeah,

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I know he was. He was like, don't you like
whereas I assumed that all of you YouTubers have like
And I'm like, no, we're not all like the palls
you guys, Like some of us, it's a job and
we get paid to do the job, but like we're
not big balling. And so the assumption that everyone on YouTube,
I mean, there are a lot of people who are
most of them have been doing it for a really
long time and that door is now closed to most

(14:08):
of us because of the way that YouTube works now.
But yeah, like we're not as media has people fucked up,
you know, because it's like I see you on the media,
I consume therefore you are rich, you know what I mean,
Like if someone has even been like if you've done
bit parts on TV, people like, yo, what I thought
you were rich and you're like, motherfucker, that was two
jobs and that that was a grand total of three

(14:31):
thousand dollars. Yeah, exactly. Like even even if you know
you get to be in an episode, the highest they're
ever going to pay you to be on an episode
of something as like a bit person, it's like ten grands. Yeah,
unless you five and forget about it. But yeah, so
that that ten grant's not gonna last year, homie exactly.
Like then like, imagine I do three jobs, that's thirty

(14:51):
thousand before taxes. Yeah, where am I going with that?
You know what I mean? Yeah, this is the basis
of that whole Jeffrey Owen's story where people were like working, Yeah,
crazy has a phone bill right right? And I think
that's the thing is maybe there's this vision of people.
I I certainly had it in my head too before
I was starting to work in the industry of sort

(15:13):
of like as a kid, I'm like, well, then you
will then be pulled up by the tractor beam, which
is called mass media or making it, and then you
live on this other planet elysium where you are rich forever,
you know what I mean. And then you're like, you
start doing gigs, you're like, oh, ship man, I gotta
do like ninety of these motherfucker's to just get it.
And sometimes you do. You know, for a day of work.

(15:34):
Sometime you will get paid five hundred a thousand, two thousand,
But you don't get those days of work very right.
You know, if you get one of those a month,
you're happy because part of your rents paid. Yeah, exactly.
Like the people who are really rich, they're not on TV,
even the people that you see, they're not the ones
that are even that rich in the grand scheme of things.

(15:55):
Obviously for a millionaire you're rich. Yeah, Like all industries,
for all the like really high level people who are
taking black cars everywhere. There's a vast middle class in
that industry of people who you know, you know from
TV or from YouTube or whatever it is. Yeah. Because
even then, like if you get a ton of money
work in a writer's room, like that's a couple of

(16:15):
months of work, yeah, and then what and then that's
got to coached you through until the next time you
get staffed, which could be the next year. If you're
Lucky War three. Al Right, guys, let's talk about the
stories of the day. Let's talk about your man, Julian
A song, Who's Mann Australia apparently the worst couch surfer

(16:39):
crashing at your place ever. Yo. So there's a document
that was leaked from the Ecuadorian embassy that was basically
like a ultimatum for Julian Assan, sort of like, Yo,
we're gonna have to curb your internet access unless you
start fucking doing a couple of things. Apparently it started
getting hot when the whole Catalonian uh secession thing was

(17:00):
going on in Spain and he was being real vocal
about that and just other just general things going on
around the world. He was really cheerleading from the sidelines
for things like that, and that was causing problems for
Ecuador because other countries are looking at like, you know,
your housing, this dude at your embassy, like what's going on?
What's good? So they're like, Okay, we're gonna have to
take away your internet access for a little bit because

(17:20):
we have to sort this out and it's not good
for Ecuador. So they gave him a list of things
that they were really adamant that he needs to begin
following through on and these rules are fucking amazing. So
just real quick, Julian Assan, founder of Wiki Leaks, and uh,
he had to seek asylum in the Ecuadorian embassy in
London because he was brought up on rape charges in Sweden, right,

(17:44):
and they were trying to extradite him. Yeah, they were
trying to extradite him. So he's just like hiding out basically.
That's where he's been this whole time. Whenever you see him,
he's just basically been in this embassy cooped up. And
I guess they're starting to really get fucking like tired
of the guests are like fish, Yeah, they go bad
after five years, right that. This is one of two

(18:04):
stories this week where it's like, yeah, embassies are basically
like home base where you can just like do like
rules are different or something, and like you can. It's
like international waters, like a little island of international waters
in the middle of a city. It's kind of crazy anyways. Anyway,
so they look in there and they're like, look, Jilian,
we gotta talk man, because you are messy as fun.

(18:27):
First is, please stop commenting on contentious political issues that
can make ship hot for Ecuador, whether that's diplomatically or
directly with Ecuador. So they're saying, you can talk, but
don't start weighing in on ship, and then thinking we're gonna, like,
you know, put our chests out to protect you. And
that's where I would expect the message to end. Yeah,
of course, like that's it, and then we're fine, we

(18:48):
don't mind housing you. Then it was like, look, bro,
starting December one this year, you gotta start paying your
motherfucking bills, Like you gotta start paying for some ship.
They're like, we can't pay for everything. What are they
paying for? I think his food and things like that,
And I think apparently you got to get a job.
They're like, yo, exactly, They're like, you need a job,
my guy. And let me tell you why I need

(19:09):
a job. Because the next thing they're talking about, start
taking care of your fucking cat. You're not taking care
of your cat. They're like, you're doing the minimum. The
hygiene is shitty. You're not grooming this cat. The cat
is just running around. Please take care of your motherfucking cat.
Then the last one clean your motherfucking bathroom. That's another
thing on the list is please the hygiene of the

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bathroom must be addressed, and the bathroom must be cleaned regularly.
I mean, I can imagine I was a single man
in college, and I know what my bathroom got like
at certain points. I mean, if you've been living in
an embassy for years, I can only imagine what that
happens to you. You're probably a little depressed. You're probably
just letting ship slide, anger at the world. You like,
literally letting ship slide. And now step Dad has to

(19:53):
be like, look, I appreciate you. Look, me and your
mother love you very much. I love your mom, and
I do this because I love your mom. But like,
you gotta you gotta take care of your pets. I
wonder what's going on with the pet that they had
to like articulate that in this document, this agreement. I'm
going to guess it's a literal issue. Probably, Yeah, he's
probably not taking care of the litter box. And then

(20:14):
I wonder if he just thinks, yeah, it's like a hotel.
When I was like, well, why did you take care
of it? Not cleaning the bathroom? We already take care
of you not being arrested, right, Like, how's this will
work on you? Not getting arrested. You clean up after
your fucking cat. Oh, the costs that he has to
be in pocketing up for is his food, laundry, and
any other costs relating to his stay. Oh my god,

(20:34):
he really is treating this like he's living with his
mom and you got to do nothing, because Yeah, these
are the ultimatums you hear from a parent who's tired
of their parasitic child, Like you don't clean your bathroom,
you're fucking I get that times are tough and you
graduated college or two eight and economy is terrible, but
you've been here for ten years cats running a muck,
your friends come over, get high all day, making the
place a mess. And also I'm not paying for your food. Yeah,

(20:56):
the next thing is definitely gonna be like you also
have to pay for your own Xbox Live. We're exactly
stop using our Netflix account. Yeah, it's messing up my
algorithm and suggesting shows I have no interest in. We
made you your own profile, Julian, Yeah, is it that
easy to hit left and then select when you launch Netflix? No,
but he's not bringing in any paychecks, is he? Like
what's he getting paid for is supportive business? Or anything like,

(21:21):
it's not a thing that he charges for. The Russians
will slide him a couple of dollars. He can just
do a go fund me. Enough people like staying for
Wiki leaks, then I'm sure you could find a way
to pay for his own launch. Right, you better pick
up a room or broom and start offering to clean stuff.
Another thing, they're saying he must have quarterly medical checkups
and he has to pay for those two. They're like,
you need to take care of yourself. To wow, I

(21:44):
feel like that is a very shady wave of being, like, look,
all this stuff is probably gonna get leaked. We ain't
gonna tell folks you don't take a shower, right right,
but we are going to tell you that you have
to go to a doctor, and whether or not you
choose to shower before that check up up to you
and will be heavily implied. Smell like, but you're the
stinky kid. We're just worried about your health because we

(22:07):
assume that you shower like an adult, so it must
be something happening health wise. Could you imagine it ends
up like that? What was that story from a couple
of months ago that doing an upstate in New York
who was like thirty or thirty one, and he was
like suing his parents, Oh, Michael something, yeah, like his
parents are gonna victim. And then he represented himself in
court to be like, no, my honor, this bullshit. I'm

(22:28):
working on my app. Yeah. If he's like, I could
get a job at six months, are you crazy like that? Eventually,
Julian Son is gonna have some like weird magistrate courts
in the UK or I don't know, they would probably
govern that in Ecuadorian lobby court whatever they do over
there in the embassy. Julian's like Lawrence on the couch.
It's gonna be like Julian hive On, get that man

(22:50):
of blue Best Buy shirt working on my app. All right,
we're gonna take a quick break. We'll be right back,
and we're back. And as we mentioned yesterday, the right

(23:10):
wing media is just trying to make it seem like
the right and conservatives and all right and white supremacists
are being attacked by the left. There's a the trending,
top trending, top leftmost trending headline on Drudge Report is
Republican candidates assaulted in Minnesota anarchists, middle class avengers, and

(23:34):
they both appear to be mentally old people attacking these
to like one person's a city council member, so they're
just having to you know, go out of their way.
So just just another update that that ship is still happening.
Was that like open letter the Washington Post had yesterday
where like some they're like, it's like a ninety year

(23:55):
old Trump supporter just in an anonymous letter, but paid
to buy out like an entire page, like a twenty
in the Washington Post. And it was also pushing that
same ship about like you know, liberals, they're trying to
kill God and like all this other thing and like
and now that was in the Washington Post was a
very interesting move. But then we don't know who paid
for it anyway. But yeah, that that adds more to

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that sort of narrative. I mean, and there's a whole
thing with like Fox News accidentally saying like the that,
uh we're saying antifa? Why are we all saying antifa?
I don't know, is there like a general, generally accepted pronunciation.
I've always thought that it was anti fa. I'd say
anti say, I don't stress the I don't go Antifa.

(24:40):
But yeah, so you know the whole thing where they
claimed that the Proud Boys were actually right. Yeah, we're
talking aout the esterday and they're showing Gavin McGinnis with
a sword and they'll be like, look at this left
wing guy, like that's your boy, and then your other
boys when they can master right. And then with Sean
Hannity was like literally that I think when that story
was that he's like, oh, yeah, I don't know him.
They're like, he's been on your show a ton. Let's

(25:03):
move on to our second embassy story of the day,
the darkest one in the Saudi Arabian embassy in Turkey,
and the story about Jamal kas because we're getting now
more details. We still the audio hasn't been released widely,
and hopefully it is not, but now the New York

(25:25):
Times is reporting that, you know, it's been confirmed. You
can hear him basically, they attack him the second he
gets in, begin beating and torturing him. Uh, they cut
off his fingers. Then you know, they basically dismember him
while he's still alive, and you hear one of the

(25:48):
people say, hey, I find that it helps to listen
to music while you do this to someone outside the
room or in the room. No, to the other people
dismembering him with him, like, hey, when we dismember political dissidents,
I find it helps to listen to music. Yeah, I
listen to p O D. Right. Yeah, this whole thing

(26:08):
just gets it darker by the second. And you know,
we were touched on it yesterday because Mike Pompeo went
to Riyad to try and get some answers quote unquote
from Mohammed bin Salmon. That wasn't gonna happen because in
the photo they were just like, yes, we're friends. And
then afterwards Mike Pompeo was like, look, I don't want

(26:28):
to talk about facts, and and the journalist like, what
do you mean. He's like, well, the Saudis really didn't
either when I asked about the disappearance. And then he's like,
that's because they want to do their own thorough investigation
into what really went down. So I guess we're meant
to believe that they don't know that they I mean,
I guess for the optics, they're trying to make it

(26:49):
seem like, oh, I don't know what happened. Yeah, we're
gonna have to get down on that. But I'm sure
them investigating themselves will render uh the truth. I doubt that.
But it gets more complicated because, like you're saying, Jack,
like those tapes and stuff come from the Turkish government
because they were the ones who had like, had sources
in there to be able to get this intelligence or whatever.
And the more you know, Mike Pompeo and Trump and

(27:12):
Mohammed had been seling like, yeah, I don't know, this
is we gotta look into this, like you know, what
are we gonna do? And then Turkey always been like
what about this tape? And we have this evidence and
it comes out and it just makes it harder and
harder to buy the Saudi Arabian version of events because yeah,
then the details you get to get more and more gruesome. Yeah,
it's up. And one thing, Uh producer Nick Stump was

(27:35):
pointing out is that Kau had spoken to somebody and
said that he initially was basically told to shut the
funk up by MBS. Mohammedd been salmon like after he
said something negative about Trump. So it's you know, and

(27:55):
Trump is homies with MBS, and I don't know, it's
not it's not proof that Trump ordered the hit, but
it's just very I don't know, it's almost like there's
no bottom to how bad this administration goes. Right, Yeah, well,
then not to mention that like the second, like right
after Mike Pompeio arrives in Riad, a hundred million dollars

(28:18):
comes into US accounts from Saudi Arabia to help fight
in Syria. Because Trump has been complaining about how nobody
wants to pitch in on needless military excursions and things
like that, but like the state departments like, well, you know,
this isn't a tip for tach kind of thing because
Mohammed Been someone actually committed this money back in August.
But everyone who was around that was saying, like the

(28:38):
details are never really ironed out as to how the
payments would get there and when and what the timeline was.
So it's amazing that the second he pulls up, a
hundred million dollars comes in the account, and then you
have Trump and like the White House saying, well hold on,
let's not let's not Bret Kavanaugh this guy quite yet.
You know, we need to find out the truth first. Uh.
And now we're getting like defenses from the American government,

(29:01):
or at least buying the Saudi's time to figure out
what their next movie is going to be. In terms
of explaining this, because it's yet, it just gets darker
and darker and darker and more. Other governments are just like, yo,
we don't we told y'all, And other people had many
a lot. There seemed to be a lot of intelligence
around this too. And even Jamal Shogi himself was like
everybody told him, like, ya, I'll go in there. Oh yeah.

(29:24):
I mean a lot of people were very worried. They're
like if you go in there, like, don't be foolish man,
Like you know that you are you are a threat
to this to Mohammed bin Salman and walking into the
Saudi consulate could be a fucking disastrous step. And tell
everybody like, do whatever you have to do to protect
yourself so you don't just no one knows that you
you don't have this appointment because yeah, he was lord

(29:45):
in there and he was murdered yea, And yeah, Sosho
g had like given a speech in Jetta where he'd
given foreign policy talk lightly critical of then President elect Trump,
and then NBSS media advisor basically reached out and said
you're not You're not allowed to tweet or write your

(30:07):
column or give comments to foreign journalists. Let's talk. But
we've got Crown Jewel coming up right. Oh yeah, what
do you think about that? That's the WW event. And
I know you are a massive wrestling Officianado Nada, huge,
huge dress. Yeah uh and yeah. That's been something that
has been coming up on like a lot of articles too.

(30:27):
Of like all of the different weird connections between Saudi
Arabie and the u S and wrestling, it seems to
be one that just won't quit. Well, so here's what
we know about the McMahons. Um, we know that they're
friends with Trump. We know that Trump has been on
ww's television several times. Um, I I think he's in
the Hall of Fame. I try not to block that Trump.

(30:48):
He might be because they have a celebrity wing, which
Cindy Lauper has never been in. And that's a whole
other conversation. I thought maybe she turned it down, but
they've never asked her, which makes no sense because w
W would not have gone mainstream without the work of
Cyndi Lapper. Anyway, I'm rambling that just still makes me
so cranky. She should be in the Hall of Fame
from the music video, well, from that and also so
she became a manager for a while when she was

(31:10):
at peak popularity. She was working our manager in the
wrestling sense where she would like, yeah, so she was
managing wrestlers on TV. If it wasn't for her, WrestleMania
wouldn't be a thing. Like, she was so crucial to
wrestling becoming huge in the eighties because she used her
star power, because she liked working with all of those guys.

(31:33):
Um and they've just never asked her, which I think
is mind buggling. Well, I mean it also kind of
makes sense. It makes complete sense. So I didn't watch
The Greatest Royal Rumble or whatever. I didn't watch it
because I was like, you're not gonna in one in
one breath, tell me about all the grave things that
you're doing for women, basically undoing all of the bad

(31:55):
things you've been doing for women, but taking credit for
it in this weird way, because their thing would b
w Now with women's wrestling is oh, we're helping out
the women. The women were mistreated for so long, but
now we're going to fix it and it's like mistreated
bike y'all. Oh, you're saying the wright like this has
to change. We were operating yeah, without taking It's always

(32:17):
this thing of like Stephanie McMahon standing up and and saying,
you know, oh, the women were being so mistreated, but
now we're treating the women well, and it's like who
was mistreating them? Are you? You're talking about your parents?
You're talking about your parents, your parents, and so yeah,
we know that Trump is friends with that family. We
know that Linda McMahon Vince McMahon's wife. And also I

(32:40):
forget what title she holds in the company, but she's
pretty far up there. She handles a lot of the
business stuff because she's a businesswoman. She isn't like the
head of the small business YadA YadA for the country.
And we know that Saudi Arabia is paying them big bucks.
And the first Greatest Royal Rumble or whatever. We know
that they got money for it. If you've seen the
ads for it, it was a huge propaganda peace and

(33:00):
it didn't even disguise that it was the is it
always held in Saudi Well, this was called the Greatest
Royal Rumble or something like that. I'm probably butchering it
because I tried to block that. Um, because there's the
regular world. But this year they did their first Saudi
Arabia pay per view or it's not a pay per view, sorry,
people are treating it like a pay per view. It's
a live event. They do these sometimes, like they did

(33:22):
one in Japan called Beast in the East. Um, and
so this is a live event. Um. While there are
many women wrestlers, they are not allowed to wrestle on
the show um at all. And yeah, which so now
to make up for it, that's why they're doing I mean,
it's very obvious. They've never come out and said it,
but it's so clear that that's why they're doing. Now
this women's pay per view called ww Evolution. So they

(33:46):
did that and it was just a tourism commercial, you know,
like look at this progressive city and like they kept
saying the word progressive or progress and like that broadcast
I remember, right, and for me it was like, well,
but the women have wrestled before. They had to be
fully covered. But I believe it was I could be
watching this, um. I believe it was in Dubai where

(34:06):
they had a women like the first ww E women's
wrestling match, which went very well. The women were fully
covered except for like their hair, but they did great
in the crowd loved it and it was fantastic. But
they're not doing that in Saudi Arabia. So I had
already decided before all of this happened that when they
went back to now do Crown Jewel that I wasn't
gonna watch. Right well, I think that's the thing we
realized to just the ww and Trump have the sort

(34:27):
of the same reasoning for not really distancing themselves from
Saudi Arabia, and that's money. So whether it's funny the
massive the windfather they expect to make by going into
Saudi Arabian doing shows there, or Trump with this hundred
and ten billion dollar arms deal he keeps saying, where
it's like, I'm just gonna cost jobs and what do
you want me to do? I think I spent a
hundred ten billion dollars. And I also this is because
normally I think the w W would have backed out

(34:50):
because they are in a position right now where they
have real competition from other wrestling federations and other promotions
for the first time. I'm in a really long time,
like New Japan is really popular. You can watch them
now on a streaming app. T NA is getting better.
Ring of Honor, like people are paying attention to indie
wrestling into these other places for the first time since,

(35:12):
like you know, w CW went out of business. It's
huge right now, other wrestling promotions, and so normally I
think the w W would have listened and would have
backed out of it. Um but I because they are
in a more precarious position than they were in seven
years ago. I didn't realize Kevin Nash was so liberal.
Oh yeah, he's so liberal. I could not because he's

(35:34):
out here tweetings like nine eleven was conducted by fifteen
of the nineteen attackers who were Saudis. Are response was
to attack Afghanistan and Iraqi. Yeah, this whole three. I
was like, Kevin Nash from the Wolf Back Okay, oh yeah, no,
he goes off. I didn't realize. I was like, wow that.
I was trying to see what other wrestling responses were
and I was it was I did not know, So
that's upcoming. And then there's also the DeVos in the Desert,

(35:55):
which was a big business conference that was supposed to
be like American and global business leaders all meeting up
in Saudi Arabia, and almost all of them have now canceled.
People who are still attending, Uh, surprise, surprise, US Treasury
Secretary Steve Manuchin, uh Siemens CEO, Joe Kaiser, E d

(36:18):
F CEO. I don't even know what E d F
is or tails, but the right, right, that's the one.
But then also am C the movie theaters just opened
up a bunch of locations in Saudi Arabia and are
like hiring a bunch of people. And you were saying

(36:39):
that we know that it's not like they're dealing directly
with MBS, but you really get the feeling that not
a lot goes on in that country without his direct approval.
You know, like that dude seems like he's I don't know,
I don't want to call him a control freak, but Tyrant, yeah,
he's a great reform, you know, based on all that

(37:01):
money he spent. Yeah, and you know, with with people,
with people standing up for the idea that you should go,
the big argument is, well, not going isn't going to
change anything. And maybe if we come over and I
don't know, it is the assumption that we take our
big American dick out and everyone's like, yeah, now democracy
or you know what I mean, Well, that brand is
so damaged you could pull out that little American pep

(37:24):
now and people like, yeah, alright, keep it moving man. Yeah.
So I don't know, but that's the idea, is that
if we go, which is so how is it that
even in the argument to go, we still sound like assholes.
We're still like, oh, they just don't know how to
do it right. But if we go over there, baby,
we'll show them that like that American vanity exeptionalism. Yeah,

(37:45):
that is the brand is not strong. They don't realize
about America these days. The brand is weak as far. Yeah,
the brand is not bralic, not at all. Well, one
brand that is is turning point Charlie Kirk group of
young people aimed at like who is also a young

(38:11):
white supremacist. It's like a college thing where they're like,
we are infiltrating the liberal college conspiracy and they've just
been revealed to be just NonStop saying things that are
like cartoons of what an unimaginative liberal would make up

(38:31):
if they were trying to write like a problematic group
of white supremacists. Ashley Feinberg from the Huffington Post reported
uh earlier this year that one of the group's national
field directors texted and other tp USA employee, I hate
black people, like, fuck them all, I hate blacks. End

(38:51):
of story. Uh so not leaving a whole lot of
You really have to have the context to be able
to understand what that means. Yeah. Um, And they've been
accused of boosting their numbers with racists and Nazi sympathizers,
even though it seems like that's basically what they are.
But they've recently come to people's attention again because of

(39:13):
some leaked chat logs from their Florida International University chapter.
And yeah, they're not great. There was like somewhere they
said like, hey, keep the jew hate down to a
minimum or something. You're like, what the fun? Yeah, let's
not talk about Richard Spencer too much, right, it's so
weird man, And then that like port I can't even like,

(39:34):
I can't even form the words for what they said
about Latina's Well, I don't even want to know. I
don't even care. No, we'll do it. Um. So one
guy was like, I'm going to dress up something. I'm paraphrasing,
I'm going to dress up for Halloween as a border
agent in assless chaps so I can group Latinas and
pretend like I'm deporting them. Who I also just this

(40:00):
second time in two days that I've been like, the
question has occurred to me, what, how do they think
jokes work? Because like the ship, don't this is it's
the same thing as shitty stand ups. They just say
wild ship and think like, because someone laughed at it,
it's a joke. Yeah, and without recognizing that a lot
of people laugh when they're nervous, Yeah, comfortably Like It's

(40:21):
like they also talked a lot about how much they
love Lolly, which he was surprised, right, Yeah, I mean, look,
you know, Charlie Kirk, anybody's still wearing Easy's out there
the wave Runner seven hundred. Kanye gifted our boy Charlie
Kirk a pair of those when he was at the
White House, uh last week, So I remember I tweeted

(40:42):
something about that. I'm like, yo, if you've got these,
you've you've lost. And then if he if he wanted
picture him wearing him, He's like fuck, I'm like, yeah,
you don't want that you don't want that, Charlie Kirk
swag ma. Man, he's got to release some of those
special Turning Point diapers. The diapers wait till that collab
goes now. And then apparently one of the tp USA

(41:05):
members had like a table set up at like an
Activity is Fair, and uh, he was confronted and had
to run away. So wow, yeah, well you know that's
I don't understand how they think they're gonna I guess
they'll infiltrate people's ability to be more empathetic or something
and then realize that the brand, the ship they're selling
isn't appealing unless you have a lot of hatred in

(41:26):
your heart. Yeah, and the dude was very calm, Like
I watched the video. He just like went up to
the table and was like, Hey, what do you have
to say about this? And dude was like and then
like left, like I'm just here to own the lips.
I'm just here, Okay, well this is the lip owning table.
Yeah you got anything to say? Are you triggered? Triggered

(41:47):
by this? You triggered by my diaper? Homie? You triggered you? NPC?
So explain that because that I had somehow missed this
that at a certain point t p USA had like
done a big stunt where they wore diapers to prove
the Libs are babies. Yeah. They were on a college
campus and they yeah, and they set up um like

(42:08):
an adult sized pack and play and they all wore
diapers to prove that liberals are babies and got no
one self owns like Charlie Kirk's cell phones. I know,
I almost feel bad, you know, like I feel like
I have some really good tweets in my drafts that
could help them just spur some ideas for them. They're
they're the ideas are not are not remarkable. You know.

(42:30):
The joke is that white men can't jump, but they
can dunk on themselves. From there, it is all right,
We're gonna go to break on that one. We'll be
right back and her back. And with all that bad news,

(42:53):
let's talk about Robert Mueller. He's been quiet for a
little while and he rumblings are coming. Rumblings have been
heard that after the mid terms he is going to
release his report and at that point it'll just be like, yes,
Trump colluded, obviously, and we will all just be happy

(43:15):
and Trump will step down in shame. Correct, ye, and
that's it, and then we'll end this show on a
high note and everyone can get back to their regularly
scheduled programming. But wake the funk up, because that is
not going to happen. So, yeah, after the mid terms,
he's gonna go to Rod Rosenstein and say, here's the
here's my paper, check it out. And then from there,

(43:35):
Deputy A. G. Rod Rosenstein will then figure out what
he'll share with Congress, what can be shared with the public. Uh,
And you know, hopefully at that point there will be
a pretty solid majority in the House to begin, you know,
doing some further uh investigating and have people start splaining
some things, and then nothing will happen, and then hopefully

(43:55):
someone will leak it to a journalist and then we
will march. Honestly, I don't know, Yeah, I mean, it
could be pretty damning. It might not be. We might
not never know what the juicy details. Right now, we're
never going to see the p tape, you guys. I
don't know. I'm waiting. I'm I have a feeling I
know somebody who would get the P tape. I had
a friend who got me Iron Man three like four

(44:16):
weeks before gott in the theater. So you know, sometimes
you gotta work those conneckies. Yeah, you got exactly that tape. Somebody,
somebody at a somebody at a barbershop is going to
come through with the P tape eventually. But yeah, I
don't know. Like I said, the P tape is like
Dr J's D Talks album. It's I've even waiting for
us so long, and even if it comes out, are
we really gonna care because we've been waiting for so

(44:37):
fucking long or not waiting I've been waiting for the
P tape. It's like the New Guns and Roses, like
it's just not Oh have they been Have they been
teasing a new album for years? They were for a
long time. Chinese Democracy Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then who
knows if after the midterms that shake up goes down.
Lindsey Graham could be the Attorney General. I don't know,
because it could be a lot of chess moves being

(44:57):
set up with Robert Mother could be like, all right,
I'll do it after the mid terms and makes maybe
we'll see if there'll be a Congress or a House
at least that will be willing to do something with
this information. But then maybe that's when Trump goes activate
Lindsay Graham, boot Jeff Sessions out Legal Smigel, Lindsey Graham, Yeah,
activate Robot Graham, and then he comes through unless he's

(45:18):
Secretary of Defense, which is another weird thing being said.
You're like, what, yeah, why what is his that makes
him just a good candidate for all jobs because he's
he's not a person with a military background who could
be like, absolutely not. What are you talking about. Yeah,
it's like when they put um It's like when they
put Ben Carson in charge of HUD because of the
word urban. Yeah, he's like, yeah, maybe he's like, you know,

(45:43):
Lindsay Graham's defensive. A lot of the times, you're gonna
want to put a socially deficient brain surgeon in charge
of that one. Yeah, alright, guys, let's lighten it up
a little bit. Let's talk about what people are watching,
what people are tracting themselves with. So the Connors aired

(46:03):
last night, Uh and I just I want credit the
day that they canceled, Roseanne I said, Okay, this is
what you need to do, guys. You need to Valerie
this ship. Valerie was was a TV show where the
lead actress, the titular Valerie was asking for too much

(46:24):
money and they just killed her off and changed the
show to the Hogan family. I said, do that, and
we already have the way that Rosanne should die is
we've already found out this season that she has an
issue with opioids, and that's how a lot of people
in that part of the country are dying. So it
would be believable that is exactly what they did. So
so you see the matrix. I see the matrix, but

(46:47):
it did about half the ratings as the premiere of Rosanne,
and the right is like taking that, as you know,
a victory and the culture wars. Except no one asked
for this, No one, I know. That's like a liberal
was like, yeah, we need the Connors. All of us
were like, we can move on with our lives. Like
you tried it, you had a season, some money was made,

(47:09):
we can all move on. Yeah. It's it's interesting because
a lot of the things I've read about this reboot
have been like, it's actually like a different, completely different
show now that like actually seems to begin to represent
all kinds of people, not just like being like the hey,
we got to talk about what people on the right
talking about and left a little more realistic, a little
more moving. But I never watched Roseanne or cared about

(47:32):
the show, so the whole. Yeah, I mean, I'm like,
I'm in that same wagon too. I'm like, Okay, I
watched it when I was younger. Um, when it was good. Yeah,
when it was good, I watched it. You know, she
was funny and I wanted to be a stand up
comic and so I like watched Roseanne and then it
got bad and whatever. But yeah, no one, I love that.

(47:54):
The argument is always when something like this happens, well,
we owned the you know, the libs, we proved them blah.
But it's like we don't care. I don't care about
the Connors, I don't care about the Starbucks cup, don't
care about any of it. Right, Yeah, you're like, my
my goal is to curb racism, bring equality to the
forefront of people's lives, access to education, those those are

(48:16):
things that you can own me in that way. Yeah,
those are the way, and you have yeah, and you
have that. Those are the ones you can say, that's
why we're upset. It's not because of fucking Peppe. The
frog t shirt you wore at the rally. Not to
contradict everything you just said, but I specifically asked for this,
and I feel like you suggested it as a way
to move forward, and now that you were like styped

(48:38):
about it. And the reason that the conservatives are wrong
about the culture war is It's still won the night.
You guys still won the night. And ratings, Yeah, it
was still the top rated show of the evening. It's
just Roseanne last year was crazy, like huge. What comes
on on Tuesdays? I don't even watch comes on one days?

(49:00):
That's the one show I know. Oh, that's a good
appointment television. That's a great time. Sunday is the only
show the only night I respect for TV, so in
the format that people actually watched TV. On Netflix, Haunting
of Hill House is the new trending prestige drama except
it's a horror show. It's got a nine point one
on IMDb, which is I always like to look at.

(49:23):
I'm d I m dB is the one that's like
just user ratings. It's like the the online pull. Yeah exactly,
but it's you know, that's that's crazy high nin point one. Yeah,
Like the highest ever is Shawshank Redemption like, so, it's
just that you know that I am TB is impossible

(49:43):
to get like a really I mean, it's not impossible,
but it's improbable to get a really high rating. What
is that? How does that speak to you? Well, so
I haven't seen it, because user ratings on Rotten Tomatoes
right now, something that we're seeing is there is a
wide disparity between critics ratings and user ratings, with users
typically rating things higher. However, on IMDb it always seems like,

(50:05):
at least from what I've noticed, that their ratings tend
to be um lower than a lot of critics ratings.
So it's interesting to me when I see something where
it's it's it's I guess I'll watch that tonight. I
have a report. We're gonna watch it and report back
to you. It's a horror show. Is it like an
American horror story kind of drama anything? I think it's

(50:27):
straight up, like it's like a family drama mixed with
the horror where it's like flashing back and forth. But
so it's like this is Us mixed with the Last
of Us. Yes, and the Good Place is the show
that everyone is going crazy about that I'm willfully behind
on that ship's got a nineties six on Metacritics for

(50:47):
season three. Um so yeah, people, people are feeling this
ship out of that. Are you caught up on it?
I'm super caught up. I am a super fan. Um.
I think it is not just like the best sitcom
that's on right now, it is also like genre TV.
It is the best genre show it's on right now,
which says a lot. Because I'm a huge Doctor Who fan.
In the New Who season came out, which I really love,

(51:10):
I think it's great. I like the good place more
right now, maybe because it's also like it's a sitcommed Yeah,
it's just if ever there was a time to trick
people into learning ethics through them, through the veneer of comedy.
I think that it's right now. Right, Remember when things
used to be objectively good or bad. It used to

(51:31):
be like, some things are subjective, but Nazis are bad. Right?
Remember that we can all agree on that, right? Yeah?
You would? There There used to be easy things. Yeah,
we can all agree that these things were not good,
right right? Yeah? I mean yeah, it's it's the writing
on that show is really what sets it apart. It's
because the jokes are so well crafted and like there's

(51:52):
like there's no wasted lines or anything, no waste and
Ted Danson is the best he's ever been. He has
a I to watch. Um. I'm a huge, huge Kristen
Bell fan. Love since Veronica Mars Days. Um. I mean,
if you're into that sort of thing. I think she's
incredibly unlikable, like the most just it's amazing and watching

(52:20):
her and Ted dance and work together, it's just like,
oh my heart, yeah. Um, And all the care and
all of the actors are amazing. I love Jamalan, I
love Manny, I love I think the due to place Cheaty.
Everyone in this show is so talented and they have
such a great vibe together and like you said, it's

(52:41):
so funny everything, Like it's one of those shows like
Arrested Development. You could watch every episode three times you
find something new. Yeah, a new joke or a new
background thing or some kind of a new callback. It
was funny at the most. L a moment where her Majesty,
my partner, her brother was in town and we're like, oh,
let's go out to eat or whatever, and we always
joke like sometimes whenever out of town people are we

(53:03):
ought to eat like we end up seeing some Hollywood
ship or whatever and blow and behold. We go to
a crossroads and the entire cast of the Good Place
was in like the private room. And then like, first
I saw Kristin Bell go to the bathroom and I
was like, oh, it's Kristin Bell. Then I saw Ted
Danson come up, come out and go to the bathroom,
like wait, hold on, Kristin Bell, Ted, And then I
look over them like it's everybody, and it was just

(53:24):
the most it was just a very proper moment. We're like, hey, well,
so this night, the whole castle the Good Places in
like the only way that could have gotten better is
if they each handed you a puppy as they It
was enough just to like see their warm glow from
And they were going to the bathroom a lot. You
think there was like a cocaine thing going. Hey man,
I don't know. They were like to sniff in. And
then it was right before they opened the writer's room.
I don't know what happened man, totally. All right, let's

(53:46):
briefly talk about the b ET Awards, because I think
they're doing something right at the b ET Awards. You mean,
like awards that makes sense. Yeah, they have awards that
makes sense. Uh, Like, first of all, they gave Best
hip Hop Video to This Is America, which makes all
the sense in the world. That was like the the
video that I feel like defined the year. I don't know,

(54:10):
I think it would have been I'm a Cow. Yeah,
well there was a time. There was a time a cow. Yeah.
And then she had her weird statements that she had
to clear up. She was the quickest rise and fall. Yeah,
she was a Yeah. They have Best Mixtape, which Blackboy
JB one Best Featured Verse is my favorite. Like that's

(54:30):
a great dope. That's such a great award, and it's
also like one that I want to go back over
the past twenty five years and give to every year.
Sit back and think about retrospective awards retrospectively, like what
would win? They gave it to Cardi B for Motorsport,
but they had Drake on Look Alive, which I might
have given it to. She got Hustler of the Year. Yeah,

(54:52):
who did Cardi B? Oh? Yeah, I mean because she
was raking this year, well and so she when did
those come on? Those were last night? Two nights ago. Also,
they're doing something really cool with their performances now where
they cut them where they almost look like Empire, Like
they look like a TV show version of a movie
or an award show. Um, they got that good lighting,

(55:14):
they got them good filters, they got them good cameras.
Cardi's performance was really really good and it would have
been good either way, but also just the way that
it was shot. It was shot like a music video,
not you know, a lot of times with these awards
ceremonies it's kind of chaos, and so you know, the
directors like here and there or wherever and trying to
catch you know, stuff with their eyes, and in this case,

(55:36):
I feel like they caught all of the good stuff. Yeah,
it was just it was really beautiful. I watched it
and I was like, go ahead, b et ye, because
they've got their new they've got a new head, right yeah,
I think recently. Yeah. And I think it also probably
helps that they're probably not using the same production teams
that do all the other awards shows, which is why
they begin to just feel a bit like homogeneous, whereas

(55:58):
this when they're like, my funk, it would do our
own thing, like if it's a little more high concept,
why not And you end up getting something that looks
a lot better. But one thing, speaking of Cardi b
I just have to add this. So I was reading
she has a new album coming out or she's been
working on a new album, and apparently there are tracks
that are dressed Nicki Minaji Minaj. So we know that
during fashion Week, Cardi came for Nikki's throat but her

(56:21):
Nikki's security got in the way and Cardi walked out
with that lump on her head. But she walked out
with her chin up and did us proud. And you know,
things have been simmering between them, especially because Nikki's, you know,
as her stock falls a little bit in Cardis rises,
She's not really liking the fact that there's her movement
is downward and Cardis is upward. But you know, apparently
like Cardi's camp is a little split something half her like, YO,

(56:44):
just bury the hatchet. It's gonna just forget it. Let's
just move on because you're doing great. There's no need
to get down and don't punch down. And then other people,
probably the b X side of things, are like you
fuck that, like come for her neck. I mean, I
think it would have been different if it wasn't for
the fact that Nikki had a radio show for like
two months, which is baffling. Um. But she had a

(57:06):
radio show for like two months, and she had a
whole entire episode about Cardie, right, um, that was basically
like her Shane Dawson like the mind of Cardie being
where she was like bringing in people and interviewing them
and all that stuff. And you know, I it's Cardie
has said that she tried to talk to her and
in person, and every time in person she tried to

(57:28):
talk to her, and and I think that's where Cardie
gets angry, where it's like I tried to work this
out with her woman to warm it, and she didn't
want to And so now I'm throwing. Now she's like,
now look at my hands because they say told because
I honestly, I hope I would like I would enjoy this.
I mean, I hope, I hope it doesn't get like,

(57:48):
you know, messy overboard. But let's not get messy. Cardie's
a mom and he's a person, and no one, no
one wants ultra violence. We just want like a little
we just want like a little bit of violence, just
two punches. That's a little mess, A little mess, not
a full on mess. To clean up the mess. I
don't even want a broken nose. I don't want any
of that. But like just one good punch the bloody lip.

(58:11):
Her leaving that altercation with like a cartoon lump on
her head, that's yeah, it's like, but the thing was
that was that was her security, you know what I mean?
And I just think I think it would be interesting
because clearly Nikki's shown her her love of getting messy
and being petties. Yeah, it also sucks that it's like you,
y'all are the two biggest women in the industry right now,

(58:32):
and it's like, you can't be adults. What I would
rather that they get together and be adults. But if
you're not going to be adults, then there's the thing
with hip hop. You know, a lot of beefs are
solved on on wax. The awards party cleaned up because
they were both nominated in the Made You Look a
Word for Best Hip Hop Style and Cardi b one

(58:54):
over Nicki Mina. I look. I love Nikki, but her
she was having and she replaced her hair and makeup people,
but a lot of her hair and makeup was not
our hair and clothes. A lot of her stuff was
like not good this year. It was aggressively bad. And
Curdie dresses like Beyonce. Cardie dresses like she's got the best,

(59:16):
She's serving her everything. Curdie wears outfits that you could
wear to the Oscars. Like Curdie, her team is managing
it so perfectly. And with Nikki unfortunately, and again she
did replace her people, so they'll start finding a style
that works for her. A lot of her stuff is
you know, it's very Nicki minage and if you love

(59:37):
the Nicki mis style, that's her style. But it's also
very like it's not playing dress like it's not well, yeah,
it's not like Cotur Curtie. Yeah, Carti is Cotur a
lot of her stuff and she does wear some costumes whatever.
I would love to see Nikki and more tour looks.
But maybe you know, just solve this on the runway, ladies, Yeah,

(59:59):
walk off what I'm saying for your life exactly, for
your life exactly. Well, Danielle has been so fun having you.
Where can people find you? Follow you on social media? Oh? Um,
I am at Danielle Radford on Twitter. If you find
me on Instagram that is um just Danielle Underscore Radford.
I do have a Patreon now. It is the tears

(01:00:20):
are very cheap because I have figured out how much
I can charge people to listen to me talk about wrestling,
and it is five dollars a month. So I'm gonna
try to see about, um getting some extra tears and
adding some more stuff on, but at least once a week,
like I hang out with my patrons and we'll like
watch something together and chat and stuff. Um, So I
try to be very you know available. Yeah, yeah, what

(01:00:42):
do you guys hanging out on? We have a discord. Yeah,
so we'll be like we're gonna watch Total Divas and
so we'll get together in the room and we'll talk
and we'll chat and we'll make fun and whatever. Or
we'll watch like a movie starring like a wrestler, or
you know, if there's a pay per view that day,
we'll watch the pay per view together. There you go, Yeah,
it's really fun. And is there a tweet that you

(01:01:03):
have been enjoying? So, as you all know, we talked
about today, Cassie and Diddy broke up on the show before. Yes,
we talked about it before the show Nursing our Wounds.
You know we've been dealing with that. And of course
Cassie and Diddy breaking up has brought out all of
the pick mes on Twitter, all the people who like
to tell a woman what a woman can do with

(01:01:24):
her body and all of her stuff. And so someone
wrote it's at at the wrote great handle right, Cassie
gets your salary one hundred times over for posting on
Instagram as well as money every time you want to
remember who she is and play her song. But you're
saying she's left with nothing? What is nothing? The ring
you're dying for is filled with debt and surprise. S

(01:01:46):
T I s Poliza, look at that. Not to s
T I shame, but like I just read that and
I was like, oh that's good man, She's gonna be broke.
So many of them are like, I'm at he's married.
It's like, yeah, but y'all broke and your husband got
Ashley feet? What are you talking about? Not me? Look

(01:02:07):
at my feet, my look at my wiki feet. Score
will be fucked up. Miles. Where can people find you?
And you've been enjoying? Okay, we can go there. Let's
go there if you want to find me on Twitter
or Instagram. I'm at miles of gray. A tweet I
like has been about you know, Roseanne. She has something
to say about the revamp of the show. Uh and

(01:02:30):
she all caps said I did bitches. Uh and Natasha
rothwellwell uh quote tweeted, retweeted and said, your career begs
to differ. So you know what she's take a m
she's oh, I am on Wiki feet. You are My
feet are just okay, fuck you. You know I gotta

(01:02:52):
put in that work. Yo, your face right now, it's shot.
You are a gas. They're big, they're wide. Fuck you,
my feet wonderful. How do I have a three? Oh no, Hey,
everybody go to Danielle's Wiki feet page and boost those
very quick there. Well, because I had one. I was

(01:03:13):
with a cat. Yes, there's a photo of my feet
gram Well I didn't, yeah, I guess. Wow. This was
updated today, like in August this year. Someone went really
far back. Okay, well, we're gonna help you with the
ratings and get you too. At least. I'm so upset
right now. My feet are good. They get me to
where I'm going. They look Sometimes it's about function and

(01:03:36):
not forstice don't let a website tell you about you.
What's your feet are worth? You know what I mean?
Throw that ship away? No, No, we're not hearing it. No,
I'm tweeting about this. We're we're boosting my foot boosting it.
In addition to whatever Danielle just tweet about wicky feet,
tweet I've been enjoying is from at Doug Exeter to
the tune of American Woman, mom had been solmon. Uh,

(01:04:01):
that's it, that's it. Ship. We have an a k
A for him if he ever wants to come on
t d Z. Uh what's wrong? I wouldn't even talk
what happen. I wouldn't even talk to him over FaceTime.
I feel like I could get got over FaceTime somehow.
You can follow me on Twitter at Jack underscorel Brian.
You follow us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at
the Daily Zeitgeist. We have Facebook fampage on the website

(01:04:24):
daily zis dot com where we post our episodes and
our footnotes. We link off to the information that we
talked about in today's episode, as well as the song
we ride out on. You can also find that information
in the chin outes Uh Miles what's song on? Are
we gonna write out onto that? You know, there's a
track I just heard. Uh you know, because money seems
to make the world go around from whether or not

(01:04:46):
we care about people disappearing, we're journalists exercising their right
to free speech or whatever, or making massive arms deals
or w W whatever. Uh So this track is aptly
named money by Leisure. And you know this is just
a good it's a good warm up to the weekend.
It's Thursday. You're getting your shoulders loose, you know what
I mean. You're you're getting your toes loose to jump

(01:05:08):
up in your boot. So now listen to this track
and get free. All right, we're gonna write out on that.
We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast.
We'll talk to you that h Cool it down before

(01:05:55):
you hit the ground. Shot it up before you twisted up.
M see type of messing up around little light and

(01:06:19):
pick up wait to play ground is not good to me,
my lad, not a coin to me, is not akin
to me, my not agoun to me. Hold it down

(01:06:48):
before you breathe it out, Stuck it up before you
lose your touch. Seeing can die of mess and ourn

(01:07:11):
do live, can weak to plain ground seeing, can die
of messing around to the line, could week to plain grounds.
Not cain to me, can to be kind to me,

(01:07:45):
get to monog get to me, n get to me. No, no,

(01:08:14):
get to me my no. Can't be that, can't be. No,

(01:08:43):
can't be no, can't be. Kay,

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