November 17, 2017 • 55 mins
In episode 31, Jamie Loftus joins Jack & Miles to discuss the new Justice League movie, Trump's tweets about Al Franken, an update on Roy Moore, Meek Mill, & the Toy Freaks YouTube Channel, plus producer Anna Hossnieh is back for 'bloid watch!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season six, episode five
of Do Daily's Eight Guys. Four November six, two seventeen.
My name is Jack O'Brien, a k new Jack City
because I introduced cract to the Internet. And I'm joined
by my co host, Mr Miles Gray. Yes, it's experimental Artists,
your boy Kusama, son of Spooky Yuki, and Odd Todd
(00:20):
coming at you, Cleopatrow, and we are thrilled to be
joined by our first fourth time guest. We've actually not
had a other third time guest. She's just that good,
uh or she's just that around? No? No, well, yeah
we felt bad when we caught you digging through the trash. Yeah.
(00:41):
Do you want to come up and recording the outside
like a dog cup of coffee? She is the hilarious
stand up comedian and animator Jamie lofton Hey and my
former coworkerk j low Hey k J Law. You could
go both ways, I could go j Oh. I preferred
(01:01):
Jayla though it made me feel more dignified. Jamie, what's
something that you have searched in the not too distant
past that is revealing about who you are as a
human being? Oh? About where I'm at right now. Okay,
so here's three reason ones. This morning, I did google
uncle Buck feminism because I'm talking about uncle Buck later
(01:25):
today on a podcast, and I was just curious if
uncle Buck is a feminist icon. Turns out he is.
Now I just like to say uncle Buck feminist, uncle
Buck feminist icon, queer icon, uncle Buck, like just throwing
it out. They're seeing what sticks? Uh. I also looked
up the Nutcracker discount tickets because it's that time of year.
(01:48):
I love the Nutcracker and the nut Cracker discount of
different musical but no, there's I was in a production
of The slut Cracker ones in Boson, Massachusetts. I was
in the background. Wait, what was the slut Cracker? It
was like, tell me it was written and directed by
a woman and not a man. It was co directed
by a man and a woman. But it was like
a burlesque show of the Nutcracker, and I was I
(02:12):
wasn't doing any of the fun stuff. I was just
like there anyway, were you just like a sugar plump
fairy like background? Like? I didn't do burlesque. I just
wanted to participate in the show. If they're burlesque dangers
what are you doing in the background and the better
you're just like like I would do I like danced,
but I didn't do like burlesque. It was just a background.
(02:34):
It was just cha back there and looks scandalized by
their moves. Oh my god, it turns out the Nutcrackers
more like the Sluve Cracker. It's as I know, what's
something you believe to be overhereted spend spending time with
your family on Thanksgiving. I'm not doing it this year,
and your face loft gepping it, skipping the loftie Thanksgiving.
(02:56):
I'm skipping well, first of all because it's far away logistically,
uh my parents live in Massachusetts. But also it's just
like the Great Commonwealth this year, Like I just I'm
sometimes for for self care purposes, I just don't want
to participate in whatever horrifying, toxic conversations are going to
take place at Thanksgiving this year. Oh is that is
that the kind of the vibe I'm just stubbing. Not
(03:17):
my not my immediate family, but like I have a
couple of aunts and uncles that I just I just
don't want to have the conversation and I'm going to
opt out right yeah. Is it because of me? It's
got Yeah, it's because of the And I also just
don't I don't like I want to. Marcella are Groy
had a great tweet about this is like, does any
female comedian who has it there to be like, oh,
(03:39):
did you know Louise say kind of kind of a
bad guy. It's like, I just don't want to have
that convert. So what do you do for Thanksgiving? Can
you get some del taco? Dude? I'm gonna watch Titanic
with my friend and uh and and eat taco bell
All right, well, if you want to, you should come
by my family's place if you if you want turkey. Yeah, well,
as long as they don't ask me about Lucy king.
(03:59):
Some old black people my grandma with dementia and my
stepmom's family did see you there. Yeah, and then like
they don't speak much English, so it'll be like I'll
just talk to you. We can just sit at the
kids table. They don't get us, dude, I still sit
at the kids table when I go. Hell yeah, I've
been talking for the past two weeks about how I'm
not going anywhere for Thanksgiving. Miles never invited me anywhere,
(04:20):
so wwhere. You know what's funny because my girlfriend, who
also knows Jack, she constantly goes, when is Jack gonna
invite us over for dinner? Now you know, I swear
to god she does. So, Hey, you're hearing to here first,
it's happening. It's going down, and it's gonna be like
a real passive aggressive like we're gonna overdo it. Yeah,
(04:42):
it's just really silent. Some more dervs. Rosie Hay, what
something you think is underrated? Oh? Under it? I got
two things. I got a hunchback of Notre dam N
or my favorite movies in the entire goddamn world. I
watched it last night Disney. Yeah. Yeah. Everyone says it's
like to too dark for kids because there was that
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whole song that the pre sings and he's like, if
I can't uh fun this lady, I'll burn the city
down and which is a banger of a song by
the way, and uh, and so people are like, oh,
kids shouldn't watch the movie movie about the priest threatening
to have sex with a woman or he'll kill everybody.
But it's it's it's really good. Tony j as a
(05:25):
judge Cloud Frolo. If this lady, I'll burn the city down.
It's basically the subtext of every eminem song. What about
es Morella, who did her voice as Morelda, Oh to me,
more I'm pretty sure he did. I remember. I was like, Oh.
The thing that I've always found strange about that movie
is just that, uh, you know, the Hunchback is like
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in love with es Morelda and he like saves her
or like, you know, does some great thing, and it's
like all the plat points of the movie where the
Hunchback gets as Morelda as his girlfriend, then Kevin Klein
get there, but then at the end they're just like
but no, man, you're too ugly, obviously, like you can't.
(06:06):
It's realistic. I I I thought about that too. I
used to be very anti that ending, but I think
he sort of has like an end of Sex in
the City, the series kind of ending Quasimoto does because
at the end he just like his reward is he
finds community and he's like happy and comfortable with himself. Right.
But I feel like I feel like the reason it
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happens is because the entire Disney universe is a looks
occrisy like it's just beauty is the main currency, like
from the jump in Snow White, the like Queen can
only remain Queen if she's the fairest in the land friend,
and so like this is like the ultimate test. It's
(06:47):
a movie about an ugly person who falls in love
where you know, has feelings towards a non ugly person
and they're just like, no, that's just not how our
universe works, Like, but I didn't want to. It's he
gets a cute girlfriend in the sequel and wait, does
he doesn't end with Esmeralda. No, he doesn't. He ends
he ends up being accepted by the city of Paris
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and Esmeralda like a gypsy, Like there are two groups
like marginalized people both Yeah, they're both other. H I
don't know. I love that movie. There's a great video
essay that came out about it recently from Lindsay Ellis,
whose work I really like. Where And that's like the
first public defense I've seen of this movie that I okay, cool,
(07:33):
I will check that out. All right, and let's get
into the show. We are trying to take a sample
of the ideas that are out there changing the world,
whether you're looking or not. We talked politics, the president
and news, but we also talked about pop culture and
movies and uh, supermarket tabloids, both of those things. Today
I was just thinking about I actually I have like
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quasi magical thinking when it comes to the zeitgeist. Like
I think the the album Yankee Hotel Foxtrot by Wilco.
For some reason, I woke up with that in my
head today and I was thinking about how that album
was recorded before nine eleven, but it's like all about
nine eleven. It has like all this like nine eleven
symbolism and ship. So I think sometimes the zekeeist is
(08:17):
like aware of stuff even before it happens. It's like
feeling the feeling and there we go. All right enough,
Uh Jamie, what is something that's out there in the zeitgeist?
Uh that that you think is incorrect based on your
personal experience. It's a human being? Uh yeah. I think
that people have been saying for a long time hamsters
(08:40):
are pet for children, But I think that they're a
pet for single adults. Al Right, Wait, that they're inappropriate
for children, like a children can't handle having a through
It's like it's it's I think it's like sort of
an entry level pet for kids like I have. I
have known so many like people who when I say,
(09:01):
let's let's just say in theory, I have a hamster
that I'm literally obsessed with and uh and and every
time I tell people that, they're like, oh, yeah, I
had a hamster in the fourth grade, but then I
accidentally lost it and it burned up in the sun,
or like terrible things happened to hamsters in the hands
of children every hamster store I know, and like it's
just about a child doing something terrible to a hamster,
(09:22):
orsing it or the hamster doing Usually it's the hamster
doing something terrible to hamster. Adult women. Yeah, yeah, there
you go. I'm a hamster lady, not a cat lady. Yeah,
I'm dignified. My hamster was literally booked at the Hollywood
IMPROVM last weekend. That's good Hamster Care legitimately booked, legitimately
booked on the MAINSTA. She got bumped the hams. I
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don't know if THEO Van does a hamster joke and
they were like, oh, dam you got a hamster, bring
your hamster and then we'll show the Avona hamster. It'll
be very exciting. And I was like, oh cool, my
Hamsters put on the main stage before I go, h
Amster time. You'll get your time, dude, My hamster will too. Yeah, exactly.
Let's get into the news. Uh, the Justice League's out today,
(10:08):
you guys. This is a big event movie, big tent
pole uh came out. It is uh November, and you
know everybody's been marking that day on their calendar. Justice
League Day. I'm about Marvel. This is the tent pole
movie that most like snuck up on people. I think
like people were like, wait, it's it's out like now,
(10:30):
like that right. I feel like Wonder Woman just came
in June. And also it's a weird time to drop
a movie that is clearly going to be critically reviled
because all their movies are except for a wonder Woman
and they didn't bring the Wonder Woman director to do this. Uh,
and they're dropping it like at the beginning of Oscar season.
(10:50):
It's like, yeah, it is like they should have been
like showing us previews for this and then it's coming
out in June or something. It was crazy because like
this is like a slow boy obsessive pr campaign for
like I feel like the last two comic cons, like
they would show like the things people like like losing
their ship and yeah, now we're here, and I feel
like that that that momentum is definitely subsided a bit. Right. Also,
(11:13):
it's just weird that Aquaman is like just being his
superpower is now like just getting thrown around by stuff,
like because he's not like there's no water like in
the main battle. Like, So, I mean, this is all
just based on the preview, but it just seems like
his whole thing is they're just like, all right, let's
throw Aquaman at someone or something. Um. Anyways, so the
(11:37):
Rotten Tomatoes Rotten Tomatoes continues to be a magnet for
controversy for being just a site that collects reviews and
like has no editorial voice other than collecting reviews, and uh,
in my conspiracy theory also like sort of changing whether
something is fresh or rotten depending on what's the number
(11:58):
where it becomes fresh sixty I believe really all right, Well,
I don't know, I mean, I I just I just
asked the other people around town, like what do you think,
I mean, most movies, I don't I'm not too excited
to see anyway. So you're a man of the people
that are just like I just get a lot of
anxiety in a movie theater. Yeah, I don't know how
I want to frame it quite yet, but that's my
(12:21):
favorite place to be in the world. Movie the movie theater. Well,
I'm back into movie theaters now because like at Universal,
like every seat is a recliner. I'm here for that
kind of movie. I could probably endure any terrible film.
Like if I'm in like a nearly like horizontal state,
I'm too fidgety. I'm a talker. I'm bed in the movie. Yeah,
(12:41):
I'm a big talker. And every time I try to
find someone, I'm like, look, I'm actively seeking a movie
talker in the Los Angeles area to see movies with
me because people hate it. What are you talking about?
Are you're like, wait, what's happening right there? Or are
you just like ye, yeah, well, oh so heita iron Man.
Because every movie is a superhero movie and they're all interconnected.
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So I have is a lot of leaning question and
like was this guy what his name is Chris? What?
Because they're all named Chris and it's like very confusing.
So anyways, Rotten Tomatoes did not reveal that the Justice
League movie had a rotten score until of at the moment. Uh, right,
(13:28):
so they delayed the reveal. They said it was because
they are launching their own sort of Ciskel and Ebert
show where during the show it is revealed what the
count on the movie is, which seems like it's just
going to drive a lot of traffic to Metacritic. Um. Like,
it's it's an interesting idea to like sort of make
(13:48):
it an event where you like find out if something's
rotten or fresh. But Metacritic is already a superior like
aggregator of Alligator Alligator, it's a superior alligator of reviews
and um so, I don't know. But the the conspiracy
theory is that they're both owned by the same giant
(14:09):
mega company. I think it's Time Warner, So like Time
Warner owns Warner Brothers, and they also owned Time Ink,
which owns Rotten Tomatoes. And so the idea is that
because they noticed that Justice League was not getting good reviews, Uh,
they were like, all right, well create this show just
to like hold the score back from the public. But
(14:32):
I think it'll it'll it'll do fine. I'm sure because
it's like one of those movies I think just for
the spectacle. People are just gonna be like, whoa all
of them in one movie? Yea? And logistically people are
going to need stuff to do with their families this
coming week. They're like, Oh, how can I like not
talk to these people for like, I mean, this movie
has got to be forty five hours long. Also, oh
my god, Batman were Superman was so fucking long. I
(14:55):
tried watching it three times and I fell asleep. I'm
not even joking. Twenty minutes in each time. I don't
know how that happened. And it's not look, I know,
I'm like team Marvel, but like, I honestly wanted to
try and watch it all the way through because I
like the idea of Batman verse Superman. I just couldn't
do it. Yeah, Wonder Woman, which is like a great
movie I really liked, is too long. They're all too long.
(15:17):
One man on the street, piece of reporting that we
can do. Four you folks being out in Los Angeles. Uh,
two of the three people on Mike here, I don't know.
I actually haven't asked myles have run into the actor
who plays Aquaman also plays cow Drag. Oh Jason, Mama, Yeah, yeah,
I met him like before he did Game of Thrones
(15:38):
and he was just like my friends and neighbor around
the dude is just like, yeah, I think he used
to live near UCB, like Franklin. It feels like you're
in a room with a character from a movie when
you're around that dude. He's like giant and looks exactly
like he does in the movies. He is oppressively hot,
(15:58):
just his eyelashes. I mean, I don't know if it's
latice or genetics, but I think it's genetics. Yeah, I
think that. I think he's just incidentally like that. Everyone
is everybody so weird around me. Um so yeah that
so there's that. Um But it seems like the movie
is not that great. We'll see. Should one of us
(16:19):
go see it? Yeah? I mean we're gonna have to
other movies that are out this weekend. Roman j Israel
esquire if the Denzel My mom can't stop talking about
that movie. She loves it. She saw it. Yeah, it's
it's hovering at fifty five, which makes it rotten, but well,
who knows. I think she's also a Denzel fan, So yeah,
who's not a Denzel fan? You have to community? Yeah,
(16:42):
but she'll just she'll ride with Denzel, like I think,
to the end of the Earth. Like, doesn't matter what
the movie is, like, Oh, it's great, it's great. Man, Yeah,
beautiful Man on Fire is great. That real stinky on
the taking of Pelum one, two three, My mom has
it on DVD on a heavy rotation is a lot
Um and the new Pixar movie is unsurprisingly at that
(17:09):
earlier reviews are in and it's apparently which one is
that one? Very good Coco It is about Day of
the Dead type Yeah, yeah, yeah, he has a Day
of the Dead aesthetic on the poster. All of my
information on this movie is coming from the poster, right. Uh,
there's a guitar that features heavily. Anyways, we're gonna take
(17:31):
a quick break and we'll be right back. And we're back.
All right, let's get into the uh what we're gonna
be calling men Gazi shout out to Daniel looking back
on Twitter for that one. Yeah, that's it. That's a
(17:53):
good one. Yeah. Although coined by a man, I will
take it right. Uh. This is the segment previously known
as sex crim Watch. Uh, coined by sex Crims. I
think we can still keep that though. Yeah, we call
sex crims mangazi. It's the same, yeah, interchangeable. What's going
on with the sex crims of the world, Well, the
(18:14):
al Franco al Franken, it's my nickname for him, a
Fresco Alfreski. Uh, what's going on with him? Well, yeah,
you know, he he obviously I think we talked about
this yesterday. No, we did definitely talked about this yesterday.
How he uh you know, how to apologize for basically
forcing himself onto uh Leeann Tweeden during a USO tour.
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But it's just kind of weird because because of that,
like on the GOP side of things, everyone is just like,
oh my god, he should resign, blah blah blah. Uh.
Donald Trump has come out aggressively. His tweets are amazing,
which are the al Frankenstein pictures really bad, speaks a
thousand words where of his hands go in pictures two, three,
four or five and six while she sleeps ellipsus with
(18:59):
I don't even know how many that's not even a
lips because it only needs be three periods. Anyway, next
week and to think that just last week he was
lecturing anyone who would listen about sexual harassment and respect
for women Leslie Stall tape. So look, Donald Trump, uh,
do you even know who you are yourself? Or remember
the time there was over a dozen women who are yeah,
(19:23):
who have come out to uh with with their own
allegations of sexual misconduct. And also you know you're on
wax talking about how you'd like to grab the poom poom.
So oh yeah, yeah, yeah when he said he grabbed
women by the yeah, yeah, yeah, that was super chill,
great point by my present. So Al Frankenstein, get your
ship together. But it's I mean, it's wild because it's
(19:43):
a very slippery slope. Like Mitch McConnell off top was like, yo,
Al Franken, we need to do an ethics investigation. I
remember when Roy Moore's uh you know, grand Old Pedophile
Ship was coming out. He was like he took a
beat before he had to figure out what he was
actually gonna say, um, because politically he had to figure
out what was most advantageous. Right, it took him like
six days before it was like and now and but
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see this is where it gets weird, right, because if
we're gonna hold everyone's feet to the fire, we also
need to begin to talk about all of these allegations
against the president, like in a much more serious manner. Two,
you know, like if if everyone's gonna be held to
the standard like where you know, the GOP has to
have some kind of credibility. What happened to that? Because
it was like a big wave of uh me two's
(20:28):
coming at the president during the election, and then he
won and everyone was like, well, I guess every story
before the election was wrong and just kind of it
went away or what. Well, I think I think the
phenomenon is like when he's elected despite all that, that's
basically the country saying that's acceptable. So if it was
that big of an issue, the GOP should have got
(20:49):
rid of him as a as a nominee if that
really was a big problem at the time, Right. But
I mean, I don't think that disrespect towards women is
a deal breaker for the GOP in any way, shape
or form. They've never demonstrated otherwise. I do think that
that's like an interesting uh like president because now that
there's like there was just this huge wave of sexual
(21:10):
misconduct allegations that are still coming out in entertainment, and
politicians have no problem calling people out in entertainment entertainment
people have no trouble like calling out politicians for but
but when it comes to like people who are in
their immediate circles, it's like there's always an asterisk for
at least one of these terrible fucking people where they're like, well,
(21:31):
it wouldn't look very good if I said something like
you know, well, that's how it is. Like even like
we were saying, like with late night hosts and Louis
c K, like you know, people made a couple one
liner jokes, but typically like when you've we've seen how
much more politically active, like a lot of these hosts
are with like giving like really impassioned monologues about healthcare
or like you know, just just general respect for human
(21:53):
beings that we haven't sort of seen that around their
own and and and it's true because a lot of
these guys have worked with Louis and things like that,
so for them, it's not like another it's like it's
in their camp. They're treating him the way that like
Fallon treated the president during the election, like it's like
very like toothless like jokes that and like very few jokes. Yeah,
(22:16):
And like Trevor Noah did a little bit on it,
but again I think it's been there very little. Yeah,
but he he did the most. But I think that
makes sense as like a comedian of color who is
not from the US, it's much easier for him from
his perspective to do that. But for the straight white
male hosts, it's been a little not a toothy. It's
also crazy too, I think that none of these people
(22:39):
had heard of it, because we had all heard of it.
I can't possibly be treated five years ago if we
heard about it, then they the thing like yeah, it's like,
no one truly wants to put themselves at risk, Like
it is good when a late night houstle go off
on a politician who is being abusive towards really any group.
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But usually that's because like that's they're not putting themselves
at risk by doing that, and I know that they'll
get you know, it's good to spread that information, but
you know, like, no one's really putting themselves on the
line here to call out someone because it's probably because
they're scared or they don't want to, like you know,
cause personal friction. But it's like, yeah, it's it's this
(23:22):
totally applies to Roy Moore in the GOP because like
when Trump is out here going to ray Al Frankenstein,
can't even spell Frankenstein, right, Uh yeah, it's it's interesting,
interesting spelling. He's an idiot. Um like with the same thing,
Kelly and Conaway. She was on Fox this morning and
they were pressing her. They're like, wow. So you know,
Trump has been real vocal about talking about Al Franken
(23:44):
and tweeting about him. But you know, how come she's
not saying anything about Roy Moore. I think we have
a clip of like her response, but we haven't heard
a lot from the President's tweeting on Al Franken. He
was asked about Roy Moore yesterday and he did not
respond well. Al Franken was a brand new news story
yesterday and the President it in as he does on
the news of the day often enough. The Roy More
stories eight days old, and the President put out a
(24:05):
statement during his Asian trip on that and since then,
our Press secretary spoken on behalf of the President by
saying that he believes that people of ald Mamma will
sort out what to do with Roy Moore and without election. Yeah,
it's old news. That's why he doesn't have to make
an impassioned think about it. And I think even his
initial reaction was just sort of like, oh, this is
disturbing or unnerving, but no, no call for like him
(24:29):
to step aside or whatever. And you know, saying that
the people of Alabama will sort it out is not
taking a stance in any way whatsoever, because that's being like,
people will decide for themselves if these women are lying,
and because that's what Roy Moore says. When the questions
that are even being posted Sarah Hugby were like will
(24:49):
he rescind his endorsement of Roy Moore? And then it
was just sort of like, We'll let the people decide,
Like that's not the question I'm asking. You're asking if
the president is like co signing an accused pedophile. Right, Uh,
didn't you hear that Bannon was like reaching out. I
was reading an article about that. Yes, Steve Bannon apparently
reached out to Sean Hannity, because on Tuesday, Sean Hannity
(25:10):
gave Roy more like twenty four hours to explain the
whole kind of story. It seemed like the wave was
cresting to be like fuck Roy Moore, get him out
of here. So Hannity came out strongly yeah, and he
was like, hey, if you don't like I would suggest
that you step aside or whatever if you can't produce
some kind of defense for why your stories just don't
add up and this whole thing looks like shit, and
he wrote, you know, Roy Moore put this really whack
(25:32):
open letter together that was really not much of anything.
And then the next day Sean Hannity is like, well,
I think the people of Alabama will make the right choice.
And this was all on the heels of this reporting
that was suggested that Steve Bannon reached out to Sean
Hannity to be like, that's that's that's that's my guy.
That's my guy. Can you like just ease up a
little bit, don't totally flame him? And then and then
(25:53):
if you look, it's like lockstep with what Sarah Sanders
says too, it's like decide. So that's clearly something that
seems like it might be coming from the Bannon camp
because it's his guy, like and a lot of it too,
as I'm sure Bannon has been communicating with Trump or
his camp being like, this is your base, These Bannon
Knights are your base, So don't abandon them because you
(26:15):
already don't have anybody out here. Meanwhile, more people are
coming out right and m like, yeah, I know. He
was a well known pedophile at this mall. He like
assaulted these women. Uh yeah. And then there's like another
one who said like he called her in trigonometry class.
He yeah, so she worked at the mall. He kept
being like, Hey, can I get your number? I want
(26:36):
to ask you out. I'm a thirty three year old
man and she's like sixteen, and she was like, no,
my dad would be mad if you called my house.
So he knew what high school she went to. He
called the high school and had her pulled out of
class and he was like, hey, it's Roy Moore. What
are you up to? And she was like, I'm in
triggonometry class. What the funk is wrong with you? And
(26:59):
like he just basically badgered her until she'd go on
a date with him, and then he tried to kiss
her at the end of the night, and she was like,
I felt very uncomfortable, but because like it's just a
daughter age. Yeah, yeah, it is weird, like just learning
about like all the intricacies of how far people are
going out of their way to protect this system that
(27:19):
is actively crumbling anyways, where they're like, oh, how long
can we like get this to it's Unfortunately in the GOOP,
I feel like it's more likely to work out in
their favor because it seems like a lot of the
GOP based does not want to believe that any of
this is happening anyways, were most like I think nationally
though everyone recognized every way More is just a scumback.
But like these evangelical conservative Christians, especially in Alabama, are
(27:42):
a unique set of voters right and also because there
is this entire apparatus of uh, you know, right wing
news outlets that are focusing all of their efforts on
convincing people in Alabama that it's a it's a it's
from Bernie Burn from New York. Um. That is, if
(28:04):
people didn't listen to an episode earlier those two weeks. Yeah,
they they had a robot call where they tried to
make it sound like the Washington Post was calling around
asking for people to lie and say that Roy More
sexually abused them. But the that's so much work. And
the character who they had was a journalist from the
(28:27):
Washington Post named Bernie Burnt. Voice was whacked like that
sounded like a Jerky Boys character, like a rejected Jerky
Boys character. Also in the Mengazi, uh It's come out,
woman who was sixteen and nine six uh says that
Sylvester Stallone had sex with her and then like after
(28:50):
they had sex, was like, hey, can you also like
have sex with my bodyguard who then came out of
the bathroom where he had been the whole time, and
then like they forced her to do uh bad stuff
that you know, you can go read about yourself, but
it's really fucked up stuff. This is when Stallone was
in Vegas filming Over the Top, so that movie is
(29:13):
ruined and the movie was fucking dumb to begin with.
What Yeah, it's about sucking arm wrestling. Yeah, but I
was gonna compare this being Jamie's fourth appearance to Rocky four,
which is the best Rocky but uh, it just seems inappropriate.
It's gone, baby, We're done with them. It's it's yeah.
The one one last thing I have to say about
(29:36):
Mangazi is it's interesting like watching people because I do
understand that it's like if if these are people that
are you know, friends, whether this be political or entertainment
is like there is like a processing time. Like Sarah
Silverman just talked about Louis for the first time, like
on her on her show on Hulu, and I was
personally not super thrilled with how she handled it. But
(30:01):
basically it was like, Okay, well this is clearly true,
but he's my friend, so it's hard to like process
and it's like okay, but also like it's not really
about like you know, I don't know. I just like
people need to use their platforms responsibly. Man. Yeah, and
I feel like there's just like missed opportunity after missed opportunity,
(30:23):
not by like and I'm not saying they're bad people,
but it's just like, well, yeah, this is the time
where you use your platform to help people and not
be like this is actually really hard for me, right right, Okay,
put the spotlight on the culture itself, right, not like right. Well,
the same thing with with like Trump using the excuse
of like it's just I don't have I don't have time.
(30:44):
It's like, dude, you do, like make the time. I
don't know he won't. All right. We have a couple
updates from stories from earlier this week. The Meek Mill story.
We talked about, um, how he had this like wacky
judge who was harassing him, trying to get him to
re record Boys to Mends on bended knee and uh
(31:06):
just do all this strange ship. Jay Z wrote an
op ed talking about, uh, this story in the New
York Times today, and there are a couple of details
we missed. So uh, you know, we had heard that
he had been arrested in the last year, which were
violations of his probation, which sounds bad, um, But so
one arrest was for an altercation out of St. Louis Airport,
(31:28):
but when video of the altercation was released, all charges
were dropped because it clearly wasn't his fault. And then
he was arrested for driving recklessly in New York, which
I imagined he was. They said it was for popping
a wheelie on a dirt bike. I imagined he was,
you know, doing wheelies in Times Square, like in the
middle of traffic. Uh. No, it was actually on the
(31:51):
set of a video during a video shoot. He uploaded
a video of himself doing a wheelie two in Instagram
and a cop was following him and like watching his
Instagram and saw the video and you know, used that
to arrest him. Like, so they're clearly out to get
(32:12):
this dude. Like the judge who is we've already talked about,
is crazy and just looking for any excuse to be
in a room with Meek Mills so she can tell
him who she thinks his manager should be. She was
trying to get him to switch management to like a
friend or a relative of hers. Uh, she is actively
fucking with him. And Jay Z's editorial was about the
(32:34):
fact that, you know, probation is used to a lot
of the time harassed black men. Like he said, as
of two thousand fifteen, one third of the four point
six five million Americans who were on some sort of
parole or probation were black, which is obviously way disproportionate
to how many black people there are in the country
(32:54):
or like what portion of the population they are. Um, so,
I don't know. He says black people are sent to
prison for probation and parole violations at much higher rates
than white people, which you know isn't surprising, but it's
still pretty troubling. And you know, so this Meek Mill
(33:14):
story also seems to be about a bigger kind of
trend in the justices, and there's some studies actually just
came out I think this week, just confirming what most
people already knew that Uh, men of color are inordinately
faced much higher prison sentences than they're white counterparts. So
this is the second time that Meek Mill has been
sent to prison for parole violations. So jay Z points
(33:38):
out that meek Mill was around nineteen when he was
convicted on charges relating to drug and gun possession, and
he served his entire eight months sentence, so he did
his time. Uh. And jay Z says, now he's thirty,
so he's been on probation for basically his entire adult life.
And with this infraction, the judge sent him to prison.
(34:00):
But the prosecution, the prosecutor in the case, which prosecutors
are not known for being like friendly. Uh, the prosecutor
recommended no additional jail time. They were like, no, this
is not a big deal, and the judge sent him
away to prison. Uh. In two thousand and fourteen, the
judge ordered him to take etiquette classes. Uh. He was
jailed for five months for uh like some perceived slight
(34:26):
and uh oh it was because he performed out of
state without her permission, and you know, he's trying to
make a living as an artist. Uh And according to
meek Mill, he spent much of that five months in
solitary confinement, which will do a future segment on solitary
but uh, just according to everybody who knows stuff about
(34:47):
like human torture, uh that that is like the worst
thing you can do to a human being. And he
was uh sent to solitary confinement for months at a
time because he uh performed out of town and this
judge was trying to um. One bit of good news
for meek Mill is apparently, uh the judge has set
(35:10):
a bail hearing for him on November, so he may
be allowed to be freed on bail pending appeal. After
you yeah, I you have to imagine that's something to
do with it. Well, yeah, I mean because not even that.
You know, it's been reported that the FBI was investigating
this judge because of her asking meek Mill to switch
his management companies, as like they're viewing that as like
(35:32):
an extortionate demand, so that I feel I can't do
that when you judge that way, because it is um,
so that's cool of the judge to consider letting him
go after he's spent Thanksgiving in prison for popping a
wheelie in a video. Also, we covered a really weird
YouTube channel yesterday called Toy Freaks, made by a gentleman
(35:56):
named Freak Daddy or who refers to himself as freak Daddy,
who where he basically on camera has his you know,
six and eight year old daughters dressed up his babies
and baby onesies and throw up food and do all
all sorts of things that appear to be directly uh
staged for people with weird fetishes. Uh. That channel, which
(36:18):
had hundreds of millions of views on a lot of
their videos, was taken down. You can no longer watch
these children being abused by their father. Uh we're calling
that the daily zeitgeist effect took it down. Yeah, we
know it's included, not us. They've been they've been looking
at this for a minute. But yeah, let's just we'll
(36:39):
take credit. And also if Meek Mill gets out, that's
all us. All right, let's take a quick break and
we'll be right back after this and we're back. Uh
what a break? What rake? Uh? And we're thrilled to
(37:01):
be joined by superproducer Ana Hosnier for bloyd Watch um Bloyds.
So this is where we take a look at the
headlines that people are seeing as they line up in
the grocery store, because these words are entering millions of
(37:21):
people's minds every day. People still need to buy milk
no matter what, unless you're lactose intolerant. I guess, um,
So what are we seeing on the headlines? Guys? Uh?
There is The National enquire has a headline that is
claiming that Joe Biden is attacking Obama. Specifically, it says
(37:42):
bitter Biden, it tacks Obama. So so their headline is
Obama stabbed me in the back exclamation point. Obviously never
says that. Uh. What he does talk about is that
Obama wanted to avoid a primary that would do damnage
to the eventual Democratic candidate. Uh. And Obama seemed to
(38:05):
think that Hillary had the better chance, or at the
very least that Hillary was not going to back down.
So what one actually interesting quote they did pull from
his book is she did not talking about Hillary. He
says she did not evince much joy at the prospect
of running. She seemed to me like a person propelled
(38:25):
by forces, not entirely of her own making, uh, which
is an interesting take that I hadn't heard, Like you
always heard that Hillary was just this ambitious person who
was singularly driven by a mission to become president eventually.
And Biden's take was she was kind of over it
by that point and was going through the motions. That's
(38:46):
his take. That's his take. It's an interesting take. It
has nothing to do with the headline on National Enquire
with bitters Obama, I'm going to get a tattoo that, uh.
And then they also say proof Jagger Hoover ordered JFK murder,
but they probably don't have that. What y'all got, oh man,
(39:07):
let me let me tell you all what I got
here the National Examiner, they've got a doozy on the cover.
First of all, it says the Amazing Secret Life of
Queen Elizabeth. She's just like us. We already know that. Okay,
we know she drives her own car sometimes and goes
grocery stopping whatever. But they say she's addicted to McDonald's,
loves to drink in gamble clips, coopons to save on cash.
On the inside, though when you start reading it, she's
(39:28):
not addicted to McDonald's. They say she enjoys McDonald's from
time to time, and they point to the fact that
she owns, I guess a franchise, like in a strip
mall somewhere. So yeah, So anyway, that's that. But the
real juicy one is this one revealed hidden Bible prophecies.
Now this is for all my Yeah, these are for
(39:48):
all my evangelical Christians out here. According to a scripture scholar, uh,
this man has radically different interpretations of the Bible, and
this man has revealed startling new prophecies that will come
true next year. First of all, they call this person
a leading scholar. I tried to google him. There's nothing
about this person. His name is Professor Gerhard Looks, a
theological analyst and director of the respected Global Conference on
(40:10):
Scriptural Research in Berlin. I was not able to find
much information on this. But apparently uh, he basically painstakingly
examined the original wordings in ancient languages and cross referenced
multiple texts and developed what he calls matrix is of modality.
And he basically says that he developed new insights on
what the scriptures say it will occur. So you want
(40:32):
to hear some of these hot fucking takes that are
apparently in the Bible. This is what this man is
saying in his re analyzed version of the Bible. What
these prophecies are. One medicare will run out of money
much sooner than expected. Only that's one of Jesus. That
was It was another great one, a new fad inhaling
alcohol infused vapor exactly. How about this one? I think
(40:58):
this is from Philippian three or fourteen, actually reads new
technology using brain sensations will allow dogs and cats to
answer simple questions and communicate with people. That's amazing. Another one,
John three sixteen poisoned candy from China will sick in
thousands around the world. Another one Colossians from the Book
(41:21):
of Collossians. I mean again, I'm just making up these Bibles.
He's not. He's not saying that's what the sixteen says.
But I'm just having fun. But these are his this
is what he's saying, the Bible says. Vladimir Putin, weary
of trying to manage Russia's struggling economy, will resign and
become a political commentator and lifestyle guru on US television.
So I mean most of these are like understandable predictions.
They're just like trying to like make a prediction about
(41:43):
like a trend or some ship that is the least
likely thing to happen. Ever, absolutely would become a political
comment lifestyle guru. Right, there's a couple more. A member
of a successful pop music group will spontaneously burst into
flames on stage. Who could it be? Yeah, I mean
(42:05):
that would be spontaneous combustion has yet to ever be proven.
But again, if the Bible thing is gonna happen, jay
z cha, someone look out for jay z Chaz. Another
one is Bill and Hillary Clinton will relocate to a
country that does not have an extradition treaty with the
U S, supposedly for their retirement. Yeah, the Bible is
supporting your right wing number. Steve benn is just going
(42:28):
under the name gar Heart, Like what about those emails?
And then last one isis will be replaced by an
even more violent organization whose members sometimes carry out suicide
attacks against one another. Yea hot take, let them know, Yeah,
(42:50):
they really called their shot with a couple of those. Yeah,
uh uh, you know, I did not realize this, but
apparently Kendall Jenner is dating uh Blake Griffin, which I
think is quite alarm I don't ask, but I I
think we need to get in there and get him
out of this Kardashian situation. Basketball players notoriously are ruined
(43:14):
by dating Kardashians. They fuck skill out of basketball players,
it is and football players. We can't allow this to happen.
We need him out there. Yeah, I mean, what like
he's an explansionists putting up good numbers. I think, yeah,
he's done all right. But look, James Harden got in
and out pretty quick and he's doing way better. So
(43:35):
is that the trick? You get in and out and
don't get married. So James Harden dated I think Chloe
Chloe over a off season. Uh supposedly she dumped him
and then for like two months at the beginning of
the season he was a disaster. People were like, what
happened that, James Harder because like when rookie of the
(43:56):
year's arm like breaks and like you becomes not good anymore.
They put something in the food, right, But then but
then James Harden eventually it wore off and he became
the natural again. I'm mixing my metaphors of sports movies.
I guess are they all just competing to see who
can date the best basketball player? Because like, obviously Kim
(44:16):
set the bar real low with Chris Humphries. Yeah, and
then Chloe. Then Chloe's James Harden. Wasn't she with Reggie Bush?
I think they're just trying to like the biggest, like
media star, and I think Kim just one. And now
that if you're really going for those those impressions on
(44:37):
the internet, Jamie, what you got? I got Star Magazine,
which is mostly just the stars. They're just like us. Hey,
look they're filling up. Guess I did come across a
compelling picture of Lisa Bonet and a donkey that I'd
be remiss not to mention. Why is she walking? It
looks like she's walking a donkey just down the street,
down the road, apparently because she's in love the editors,
(44:58):
because the captured is days after news broke that she
had wed longtime love Jason Momoa ak aquaman, who is
apparently just around uh, Lisa bone It was with a
donkey not too far from here into Panca, California. She
she is in a leather jacket. She's walked around with
a donkey. She seems perfectly content. Yeah, I have to
(45:20):
assume that amazing. It is great. There's beads involved. We've
got to assume that Jason Momoa was like, you know,
around one of us, most likely because this may have
been the most spottable man uh currently in the city.
But yeah, at least bone hang out with a donkey.
Mary Kay Nashley are still alive. There's a great Really,
(45:43):
they're talking about their style evolution and it truly they
could not be more boring if they tried. You know,
they like long black robes these days. Yeah, they're just
sort of they're like monk chic because like the chic. Yeah, yeah,
(46:05):
there was Um, should I add one more? Apparently Angelina
Jolie is wasting away after this. I mean that is
kind of a really sad photo of her looking very
very thin, they think according to the author of the
Accidental Diet from Fugly to Fox, she is eighty two
pounds when she technically should be between one to one
(46:27):
for her age and frame. Yeah. No, I mean there
was that big like Oscar's moment where she like went
up on the stage and like stood kind of funny
like with her leg out to the side. And then
when Jim Rash won the Oscar, he did the funny
thing where he stood with his leg out to the side. Uh,
classic Jim Rash. Jim Rash is a funny dude. Check
out after Stranger Things starting, Jim Rash good. I literally
(46:51):
watched all of it. Very embarrassing. Really, that's embarrassing. I
love m um. He's the principal from community for people
who don't you want an Oscar? Yeah, he wrote the Descendants.
Oh yeah, weird career. Yeah, he's just like a talent.
But so there was that moment where she like went
(47:13):
up and stood that way, and people were like, what
does any pop culture moment? But like nobody talking about
the fact that she looked like very sick. She was like, super,
I don't. I hope she's good. I hope, Yeah, I
do too. She really really struggled with Brad Pitt and
uh man, they're trying to that film Allied it. Yeah,
(47:34):
so they're trying to tie that to her weight loss.
I think I was just trying to tie the whole divorce,
in the whole situation to her weight loss. Kids. Yeah, yeah,
it's up. But the magazines, right, well, we have learned
about the tabloids. Is if it is possible to tie
a story to Brad Pitt dating a woman, Uh, it
(47:57):
is going to happen. Uh, it's gonna save print. Back
to Kardashians, guys. In Touch, it is going to save print.
In Touch is reporting that Kylie, who is pregnant with
Travis Scott's child, is pregnant and cheated on Travis scottis
(48:18):
which I mean, the Astros did just win, so I'm
sure he was just party. Is he a big Astros? Yes? Yeah,
I don't know. I feel like there's like a mixture
of sort of uh, you know, wanting to be the
Kardashians and being jealous of their lives and also schanen Freud,
is that how you pronounced where people love to see
(48:41):
bad things happen to that. I guess that's true of
all celebrities. So I don't have a point. The magazine
and in case you see the Globe which says perv
Harvey Weinstein jailed, Uh, he has not been jailed. It's
actually a fairly convincing photoshop. But they turned to the
actual story. They have an It's just like, man, that
guy should go to jail. How this can't even make
(49:05):
sense of that tense wise, you're just like straight up
lying on the cover. Uh So that's what I got
going on in Blood Watch anything anybody wants to bring
up before we In Miles Blood, I caught a glimpse
of Thomas Kincaid set that's being sold. It's Thomas Kinkaid season. Everybody,
You're gonna want to buy Thomas Kincaid paintings and puzzles.
(49:27):
Also remember that Thomas Kincaid, who, by the way, no
one remembers, has been dead for like six years. Uh,
once whipped his dick out at Disney World and pissed
on his statue of Mickey Mouse. That's Thomas Kinkaid. Watch.
Thomas Kinkaid is the guy who paints those like the
painter of Light. Yeah, I'm upset. I'm obsessed with Thomas Kinkaid.
He yeah, he just wants does he had? He was
(49:48):
having a day and he just whipped his dick out
of Disney World and just pissed on a statue of
Mickey Mouse. Turn Yeah. He is the painter of every
shitty painting in like dentist's offices. Yeah, and like, yeah,
my aunt is the one we should get. We should
hang some kinkaids in here. Oh and Reba McIntyre has
been her husband of twenty six years dumped her for
(50:10):
her best friend. Country Superstar turns to faith and Friends
and says, I'm happier than ever with the most manic
smile interface. Yeah. They couldn't have picked a meaner. Yeah, like,
I'm a less convincing picture for him. Happier than ever?
I don't know. She looks pretty happy, but it's good
to Reba. Still out there. Of Reba the TV show,
It's tight, isn't Yeah? Yeah? Yeah, hell single mom who
(50:32):
works too hard? All right? That is gonna do it
for our season finale, and we're gonna try something new
out where. This weekend we release a highlight reel of
the week's shows, so it'll be basically the weekly Zeitgeist,
so you can listen back and if you missed any episodes,
here what you missed, um, so you can look forward
(50:56):
to that. Jamie, thank you so much for joining us
for the four of time. Hey, thanks for having me
for the fourth time. Fourth times a charm, fourth time.
Maybe I'm gonna get it right one of these days. Yeah,
we're just having you back to be like, she's gonna
get a's gonna We're really going to whip her into shape.
Yeah right, No, you're the best. Where can people find you?
I find me on Twitter at Hamburger Phone. You can
(51:17):
listen to my podcast, the beck del Cast, and and
then just look look around look around for me. I'm
like Jason, Mamma, I just pop up places. Yeah, that's true.
And she is stunning in person like it seems like
she's like a superhero. Yeah. He tattoos are incredible. She
looks like a dulf racky. Uh. I got my little
(51:37):
worm tattoo. Anas. It's been it's been a joy to
have you on. Thank you so much. Where can people
find you? I'm on Twitter at Anna Host. Yeah, you
also have a podcast, don't you. I do have a
podcast called Ethnically Ambiguous about being Brown in America. And
if you want to hear me go crazy on Saudi Arabia,
I'm gonna go crazy. Miles of Gray is on this
(52:01):
last week's episode. Please give a listen. You learned so
much about his deep personal history with his immigrant parents.
It is a really good ship parent up on all
sorts of Middle Eastern news that you probably don't know about,
and we're lad you do know about. And Anna's picture
was next to Oprah yesterday, that's true. You can find
me under the bold women's section of iTunes. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
(52:27):
it's been truly a pleasure to have you yes week.
Where where can people find you? You can find me
probably watching some Rebo McIntyre reruns in a second off
of the suggestion of j Low over here. But if
you're more interested in like the social media thing like
Twitter and Instagram, holler at me on at Miles of
Gray g r A y not g r e y
a y. You can follow me at Jack Underscore O'Brien,
(52:50):
or you can find me watching Roseanne, which is the
superior team Barbara Jeane, did you hear Roseanne's coming back
from the dead? Yeah, no, Roseanne the show is coming
back there like full they're housing that, which I feel
like John better Uh what John Goodman, Yeah, with the
whole cast Lorie Metcalf, uh Yeah, which I feel like
(53:14):
that is a show that we need in this moment.
We need a show about what it's like to be Roseanne. Honestly,
a million percent I take reb a reboot Rebo give
me the reboot baby. You can find me at Jack
Underscore O B R I E. And you can find
us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter. Our website is daily
(53:37):
Zeitgeist dot com, where you can find our footnotebo where
we post links to all of the stuff we're talking about.
Except for the tabloids. They don't put that ship online,
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You can find us on Instagram at the Daily Zeitgeist,
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(53:57):
Zeitgeist that we will begin updating again fairly soon. Uh.
Let's give shouts out to the wonderful people who make
this show. The Daily Zigeist is produced by Anna Josnier
and Nick Stump. Our project manager is Sophie Lichterman. Uh.
The show is written by all those people, Miles and
(54:20):
I and each day's guest. Uh. It is also written
by Jam McNabb, Alison Zeidman and Sam Rabman, and it
is edited by Nicholas Stump and Laurence Stump. The theme
song is by Dream Panther and Trey Finley, and the
in between music is by Brian Brian Brian, I don't
(54:42):
want air him out like that. He's like, he's like Bono,
but just Bryan Bryan. Uh. And that's gonna do it
for this week. Thanks for listening. Listen this weekend for
the Weekly Zeitgeist, the Highlight Reel, and we'll be back
on Monday. Season premiere, Season premiere of season seven
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season six, episode five
of Do Daily's Eight Guys. Four November six, two seventeen.
My name is Jack O'Brien, a k new Jack City
because I introduced cract to the Internet. And I'm joined
by my co host, Mr Miles Gray. Yes, it's experimental Artists,
your boy Kusama, son of Spooky Yuki, and Odd Todd
(00:20):
coming at you, Cleopatrow, and we are thrilled to be
joined by our first fourth time guest. We've actually not
had a other third time guest. She's just that good,
uh or she's just that around? No? No, well, yeah
we felt bad when we caught you digging through the trash. Yeah.
(00:41):
Do you want to come up and recording the outside
like a dog cup of coffee? She is the hilarious
stand up comedian and animator Jamie lofton Hey and my
former coworkerk j low Hey k J Law. You could
go both ways, I could go j Oh. I preferred
(01:01):
Jayla though it made me feel more dignified. Jamie, what's
something that you have searched in the not too distant
past that is revealing about who you are as a
human being? Oh? About where I'm at right now. Okay,
so here's three reason ones. This morning, I did google
uncle Buck feminism because I'm talking about uncle Buck later
(01:25):
today on a podcast, and I was just curious if
uncle Buck is a feminist icon. Turns out he is.
Now I just like to say uncle Buck feminist, uncle
Buck feminist icon, queer icon, uncle Buck, like just throwing
it out. They're seeing what sticks? Uh. I also looked
up the Nutcracker discount tickets because it's that time of year.
(01:48):
I love the Nutcracker and the nut Cracker discount of
different musical but no, there's I was in a production
of The slut Cracker ones in Boson, Massachusetts. I was
in the background. Wait, what was the slut Cracker? It
was like, tell me it was written and directed by
a woman and not a man. It was co directed
by a man and a woman. But it was like
a burlesque show of the Nutcracker, and I was I
(02:12):
wasn't doing any of the fun stuff. I was just
like there anyway, were you just like a sugar plump
fairy like background? Like? I didn't do burlesque. I just
wanted to participate in the show. If they're burlesque dangers
what are you doing in the background and the better
you're just like like I would do I like danced,
but I didn't do like burlesque. It was just a background.
(02:34):
It was just cha back there and looks scandalized by
their moves. Oh my god, it turns out the Nutcrackers
more like the Sluve Cracker. It's as I know, what's
something you believe to be overhereted spend spending time with
your family on Thanksgiving. I'm not doing it this year,
and your face loft gepping it, skipping the loftie Thanksgiving.
(02:56):
I'm skipping well, first of all because it's far away logistically,
uh my parents live in Massachusetts. But also it's just
like the Great Commonwealth this year, Like I just I'm
sometimes for for self care purposes, I just don't want
to participate in whatever horrifying, toxic conversations are going to
take place at Thanksgiving this year. Oh is that is
that the kind of the vibe I'm just stubbing. Not
(03:17):
my not my immediate family, but like I have a
couple of aunts and uncles that I just I just
don't want to have the conversation and I'm going to
opt out right yeah. Is it because of me? It's
got Yeah, it's because of the And I also just
don't I don't like I want to. Marcella are Groy
had a great tweet about this is like, does any
female comedian who has it there to be like, oh,
(03:39):
did you know Louise say kind of kind of a
bad guy. It's like, I just don't want to have
that convert. So what do you do for Thanksgiving? Can
you get some del taco? Dude? I'm gonna watch Titanic
with my friend and uh and and eat taco bell
All right, well, if you want to, you should come
by my family's place if you if you want turkey. Yeah, well,
as long as they don't ask me about Lucy king.
(03:59):
Some old black people my grandma with dementia and my
stepmom's family did see you there. Yeah, and then like
they don't speak much English, so it'll be like I'll
just talk to you. We can just sit at the
kids table. They don't get us, dude, I still sit
at the kids table when I go. Hell yeah, I've
been talking for the past two weeks about how I'm
not going anywhere for Thanksgiving. Miles never invited me anywhere,
(04:20):
so wwhere. You know what's funny because my girlfriend, who
also knows Jack, she constantly goes, when is Jack gonna
invite us over for dinner? Now you know, I swear
to god she does. So, Hey, you're hearing to here first,
it's happening. It's going down, and it's gonna be like
a real passive aggressive like we're gonna overdo it. Yeah,
(04:42):
it's just really silent. Some more dervs. Rosie Hay, what
something you think is underrated? Oh? Under it? I got
two things. I got a hunchback of Notre dam N
or my favorite movies in the entire goddamn world. I
watched it last night Disney. Yeah. Yeah. Everyone says it's
like to too dark for kids because there was that
(05:03):
whole song that the pre sings and he's like, if
I can't uh fun this lady, I'll burn the city
down and which is a banger of a song by
the way, and uh, and so people are like, oh,
kids shouldn't watch the movie movie about the priest threatening
to have sex with a woman or he'll kill everybody.
But it's it's it's really good. Tony j as a
(05:25):
judge Cloud Frolo. If this lady, I'll burn the city down.
It's basically the subtext of every eminem song. What about
es Morella, who did her voice as Morelda, Oh to me,
more I'm pretty sure he did. I remember. I was like, Oh.
The thing that I've always found strange about that movie
is just that, uh, you know, the Hunchback is like
(05:46):
in love with es Morelda and he like saves her
or like, you know, does some great thing, and it's
like all the plat points of the movie where the
Hunchback gets as Morelda as his girlfriend, then Kevin Klein
get there, but then at the end they're just like
but no, man, you're too ugly, obviously, like you can't.
(06:06):
It's realistic. I I I thought about that too. I
used to be very anti that ending, but I think
he sort of has like an end of Sex in
the City, the series kind of ending Quasimoto does because
at the end he just like his reward is he
finds community and he's like happy and comfortable with himself. Right.
But I feel like I feel like the reason it
(06:27):
happens is because the entire Disney universe is a looks
occrisy like it's just beauty is the main currency, like
from the jump in Snow White, the like Queen can
only remain Queen if she's the fairest in the land friend,
and so like this is like the ultimate test. It's
(06:47):
a movie about an ugly person who falls in love
where you know, has feelings towards a non ugly person
and they're just like, no, that's just not how our
universe works, Like, but I didn't want to. It's he
gets a cute girlfriend in the sequel and wait, does
he doesn't end with Esmeralda. No, he doesn't. He ends
he ends up being accepted by the city of Paris
(07:09):
and Esmeralda like a gypsy, Like there are two groups
like marginalized people both Yeah, they're both other. H I
don't know. I love that movie. There's a great video
essay that came out about it recently from Lindsay Ellis,
whose work I really like. Where And that's like the
first public defense I've seen of this movie that I okay, cool,
(07:33):
I will check that out. All right, and let's get
into the show. We are trying to take a sample
of the ideas that are out there changing the world,
whether you're looking or not. We talked politics, the president
and news, but we also talked about pop culture and
movies and uh, supermarket tabloids, both of those things. Today
I was just thinking about I actually I have like
(07:56):
quasi magical thinking when it comes to the zeitgeist. Like
I think the the album Yankee Hotel Foxtrot by Wilco.
For some reason, I woke up with that in my
head today and I was thinking about how that album
was recorded before nine eleven, but it's like all about
nine eleven. It has like all this like nine eleven
symbolism and ship. So I think sometimes the zekeeist is
(08:17):
like aware of stuff even before it happens. It's like
feeling the feeling and there we go. All right enough,
Uh Jamie, what is something that's out there in the zeitgeist?
Uh that that you think is incorrect based on your
personal experience. It's a human being? Uh yeah. I think
that people have been saying for a long time hamsters
(08:40):
are pet for children, But I think that they're a
pet for single adults. Al Right, Wait, that they're inappropriate
for children, like a children can't handle having a through
It's like it's it's I think it's like sort of
an entry level pet for kids like I have. I
have known so many like people who when I say,
(09:01):
let's let's just say in theory, I have a hamster
that I'm literally obsessed with and uh and and every
time I tell people that, they're like, oh, yeah, I
had a hamster in the fourth grade, but then I
accidentally lost it and it burned up in the sun,
or like terrible things happened to hamsters in the hands
of children every hamster store I know, and like it's
just about a child doing something terrible to a hamster,
(09:22):
orsing it or the hamster doing Usually it's the hamster
doing something terrible to hamster. Adult women. Yeah, yeah, there
you go. I'm a hamster lady, not a cat lady. Yeah,
I'm dignified. My hamster was literally booked at the Hollywood
IMPROVM last weekend. That's good Hamster Care legitimately booked, legitimately
booked on the MAINSTA. She got bumped the hams. I
(09:46):
don't know if THEO Van does a hamster joke and
they were like, oh, dam you got a hamster, bring
your hamster and then we'll show the Avona hamster. It'll
be very exciting. And I was like, oh cool, my
Hamsters put on the main stage before I go, h
Amster time. You'll get your time, dude, My hamster will too. Yeah, exactly.
Let's get into the news. Uh, the Justice League's out today,
(10:08):
you guys. This is a big event movie, big tent
pole uh came out. It is uh November, and you
know everybody's been marking that day on their calendar. Justice
League Day. I'm about Marvel. This is the tent pole
movie that most like snuck up on people. I think
like people were like, wait, it's it's out like now,
(10:30):
like that right. I feel like Wonder Woman just came
in June. And also it's a weird time to drop
a movie that is clearly going to be critically reviled
because all their movies are except for a wonder Woman
and they didn't bring the Wonder Woman director to do this. Uh,
and they're dropping it like at the beginning of Oscar season.
(10:50):
It's like, yeah, it is like they should have been
like showing us previews for this and then it's coming
out in June or something. It was crazy because like
this is like a slow boy obsessive pr campaign for
like I feel like the last two comic cons, like
they would show like the things people like like losing
their ship and yeah, now we're here, and I feel
like that that that momentum is definitely subsided a bit. Right. Also,
(11:13):
it's just weird that Aquaman is like just being his
superpower is now like just getting thrown around by stuff,
like because he's not like there's no water like in
the main battle. Like, So, I mean, this is all
just based on the preview, but it just seems like
his whole thing is they're just like, all right, let's
throw Aquaman at someone or something. Um. Anyways, so the
(11:37):
Rotten Tomatoes Rotten Tomatoes continues to be a magnet for
controversy for being just a site that collects reviews and
like has no editorial voice other than collecting reviews, and uh,
in my conspiracy theory also like sort of changing whether
something is fresh or rotten depending on what's the number
(11:58):
where it becomes fresh sixty I believe really all right, Well,
I don't know, I mean, I I just I just
asked the other people around town, like what do you think,
I mean, most movies, I don't I'm not too excited
to see anyway. So you're a man of the people
that are just like I just get a lot of
anxiety in a movie theater. Yeah, I don't know how
I want to frame it quite yet, but that's my
(12:21):
favorite place to be in the world. Movie the movie theater. Well,
I'm back into movie theaters now because like at Universal,
like every seat is a recliner. I'm here for that
kind of movie. I could probably endure any terrible film.
Like if I'm in like a nearly like horizontal state,
I'm too fidgety. I'm a talker. I'm bed in the movie. Yeah,
(12:41):
I'm a big talker. And every time I try to
find someone, I'm like, look, I'm actively seeking a movie
talker in the Los Angeles area to see movies with
me because people hate it. What are you talking about?
Are you're like, wait, what's happening right there? Or are
you just like ye, yeah, well, oh so heita iron Man.
Because every movie is a superhero movie and they're all interconnected.
(13:03):
So I have is a lot of leaning question and
like was this guy what his name is Chris? What?
Because they're all named Chris and it's like very confusing.
So anyways, Rotten Tomatoes did not reveal that the Justice
League movie had a rotten score until of at the moment. Uh, right,
(13:28):
so they delayed the reveal. They said it was because
they are launching their own sort of Ciskel and Ebert
show where during the show it is revealed what the
count on the movie is, which seems like it's just
going to drive a lot of traffic to Metacritic. Um. Like,
it's it's an interesting idea to like sort of make
(13:48):
it an event where you like find out if something's
rotten or fresh. But Metacritic is already a superior like
aggregator of Alligator Alligator, it's a superior alligator of reviews
and um so, I don't know. But the the conspiracy
theory is that they're both owned by the same giant
(14:09):
mega company. I think it's Time Warner, So like Time
Warner owns Warner Brothers, and they also owned Time Ink,
which owns Rotten Tomatoes. And so the idea is that
because they noticed that Justice League was not getting good reviews, Uh,
they were like, all right, well create this show just
to like hold the score back from the public. But
(14:32):
I think it'll it'll it'll do fine. I'm sure because
it's like one of those movies I think just for
the spectacle. People are just gonna be like, whoa all
of them in one movie? Yea? And logistically people are
going to need stuff to do with their families this
coming week. They're like, Oh, how can I like not
talk to these people for like, I mean, this movie
has got to be forty five hours long. Also, oh
my god, Batman were Superman was so fucking long. I
(14:55):
tried watching it three times and I fell asleep. I'm
not even joking. Twenty minutes in each time. I don't
know how that happened. And it's not look, I know,
I'm like team Marvel, but like, I honestly wanted to
try and watch it all the way through because I
like the idea of Batman verse Superman. I just couldn't
do it. Yeah, Wonder Woman, which is like a great
movie I really liked, is too long. They're all too long.
(15:17):
One man on the street, piece of reporting that we
can do. Four you folks being out in Los Angeles. Uh,
two of the three people on Mike here, I don't know.
I actually haven't asked myles have run into the actor
who plays Aquaman also plays cow Drag. Oh Jason, Mama, Yeah, yeah,
I met him like before he did Game of Thrones
(15:38):
and he was just like my friends and neighbor around
the dude is just like, yeah, I think he used
to live near UCB, like Franklin. It feels like you're
in a room with a character from a movie when
you're around that dude. He's like giant and looks exactly
like he does in the movies. He is oppressively hot,
(15:58):
just his eyelashes. I mean, I don't know if it's
latice or genetics, but I think it's genetics. Yeah, I
think that. I think he's just incidentally like that. Everyone
is everybody so weird around me. Um so yeah that
so there's that. Um But it seems like the movie
is not that great. We'll see. Should one of us
(16:19):
go see it? Yeah? I mean we're gonna have to
other movies that are out this weekend. Roman j Israel
esquire if the Denzel My mom can't stop talking about
that movie. She loves it. She saw it. Yeah, it's
it's hovering at fifty five, which makes it rotten, but well,
who knows. I think she's also a Denzel fan, So yeah,
who's not a Denzel fan? You have to community? Yeah,
(16:42):
but she'll just she'll ride with Denzel, like I think,
to the end of the Earth. Like, doesn't matter what
the movie is, like, Oh, it's great, it's great. Man, Yeah,
beautiful Man on Fire is great. That real stinky on
the taking of Pelum one, two three, My mom has
it on DVD on a heavy rotation is a lot
Um and the new Pixar movie is unsurprisingly at that
(17:09):
earlier reviews are in and it's apparently which one is
that one? Very good Coco It is about Day of
the Dead type Yeah, yeah, yeah, he has a Day
of the Dead aesthetic on the poster. All of my
information on this movie is coming from the poster, right. Uh,
there's a guitar that features heavily. Anyways, we're gonna take
(17:31):
a quick break and we'll be right back. And we're back.
All right, let's get into the uh what we're gonna
be calling men Gazi shout out to Daniel looking back
on Twitter for that one. Yeah, that's it. That's a
(17:53):
good one. Yeah. Although coined by a man, I will
take it right. Uh. This is the segment previously known
as sex crim Watch. Uh, coined by sex Crims. I
think we can still keep that though. Yeah, we call
sex crims mangazi. It's the same, yeah, interchangeable. What's going
on with the sex crims of the world, Well, the
(18:14):
al Franco al Franken, it's my nickname for him, a
Fresco Alfreski. Uh, what's going on with him? Well, yeah,
you know, he he obviously I think we talked about
this yesterday. No, we did definitely talked about this yesterday.
How he uh you know, how to apologize for basically
forcing himself onto uh Leeann Tweeden during a USO tour.
(18:36):
But it's just kind of weird because because of that,
like on the GOP side of things, everyone is just like,
oh my god, he should resign, blah blah blah. Uh.
Donald Trump has come out aggressively. His tweets are amazing,
which are the al Frankenstein pictures really bad, speaks a
thousand words where of his hands go in pictures two, three,
four or five and six while she sleeps ellipsus with
(18:59):
I don't even know how many that's not even a
lips because it only needs be three periods. Anyway, next
week and to think that just last week he was
lecturing anyone who would listen about sexual harassment and respect
for women Leslie Stall tape. So look, Donald Trump, uh,
do you even know who you are yourself? Or remember
the time there was over a dozen women who are yeah,
(19:23):
who have come out to uh with with their own
allegations of sexual misconduct. And also you know you're on
wax talking about how you'd like to grab the poom poom.
So oh yeah, yeah, yeah when he said he grabbed
women by the yeah, yeah, yeah, that was super chill,
great point by my present. So Al Frankenstein, get your
ship together. But it's I mean, it's wild because it's
(19:43):
a very slippery slope. Like Mitch McConnell off top was like, yo,
Al Franken, we need to do an ethics investigation. I
remember when Roy Moore's uh you know, grand Old Pedophile
Ship was coming out. He was like he took a
beat before he had to figure out what he was
actually gonna say, um, because politically he had to figure
out what was most advantageous. Right, it took him like
six days before it was like and now and but
(20:06):
see this is where it gets weird, right, because if
we're gonna hold everyone's feet to the fire, we also
need to begin to talk about all of these allegations
against the president, like in a much more serious manner. Two,
you know, like if if everyone's gonna be held to
the standard like where you know, the GOP has to
have some kind of credibility. What happened to that? Because
it was like a big wave of uh me two's
(20:28):
coming at the president during the election, and then he
won and everyone was like, well, I guess every story
before the election was wrong and just kind of it
went away or what. Well, I think I think the
phenomenon is like when he's elected despite all that, that's
basically the country saying that's acceptable. So if it was
that big of an issue, the GOP should have got
(20:49):
rid of him as a as a nominee if that
really was a big problem at the time, Right. But
I mean, I don't think that disrespect towards women is
a deal breaker for the GOP in any way, shape
or form. They've never demonstrated otherwise. I do think that
that's like an interesting uh like president because now that
there's like there was just this huge wave of sexual
(21:10):
misconduct allegations that are still coming out in entertainment, and
politicians have no problem calling people out in entertainment entertainment
people have no trouble like calling out politicians for but
but when it comes to like people who are in
their immediate circles, it's like there's always an asterisk for
at least one of these terrible fucking people where they're like, well,
(21:31):
it wouldn't look very good if I said something like
you know, well, that's how it is. Like even like
we were saying, like with late night hosts and Louis
c K, like you know, people made a couple one
liner jokes, but typically like when you've we've seen how
much more politically active, like a lot of these hosts
are with like giving like really impassioned monologues about healthcare
or like you know, just just general respect for human
(21:53):
beings that we haven't sort of seen that around their
own and and and it's true because a lot of
these guys have worked with Louis and things like that,
so for them, it's not like another it's like it's
in their camp. They're treating him the way that like
Fallon treated the president during the election, like it's like
very like toothless like jokes that and like very few jokes. Yeah,
(22:16):
And like Trevor Noah did a little bit on it,
but again I think it's been there very little. Yeah,
but he he did the most. But I think that
makes sense as like a comedian of color who is
not from the US, it's much easier for him from
his perspective to do that. But for the straight white
male hosts, it's been a little not a toothy. It's
also crazy too, I think that none of these people
(22:39):
had heard of it, because we had all heard of it.
I can't possibly be treated five years ago if we
heard about it, then they the thing like yeah, it's like,
no one truly wants to put themselves at risk, Like
it is good when a late night houstle go off
on a politician who is being abusive towards really any group.
(23:01):
But usually that's because like that's they're not putting themselves
at risk by doing that, and I know that they'll
get you know, it's good to spread that information, but
you know, like, no one's really putting themselves on the
line here to call out someone because it's probably because
they're scared or they don't want to, like you know,
cause personal friction. But it's like, yeah, it's it's this
(23:22):
totally applies to Roy Moore in the GOP because like
when Trump is out here going to ray Al Frankenstein,
can't even spell Frankenstein, right, Uh yeah, it's it's interesting,
interesting spelling. He's an idiot. Um like with the same thing,
Kelly and Conaway. She was on Fox this morning and
they were pressing her. They're like, wow. So you know,
Trump has been real vocal about talking about Al Franken
(23:44):
and tweeting about him. But you know, how come she's
not saying anything about Roy Moore. I think we have
a clip of like her response, but we haven't heard
a lot from the President's tweeting on Al Franken. He
was asked about Roy Moore yesterday and he did not
respond well. Al Franken was a brand new news story
yesterday and the President it in as he does on
the news of the day often enough. The Roy More
stories eight days old, and the President put out a
(24:05):
statement during his Asian trip on that and since then,
our Press secretary spoken on behalf of the President by
saying that he believes that people of ald Mamma will
sort out what to do with Roy Moore and without election. Yeah,
it's old news. That's why he doesn't have to make
an impassioned think about it. And I think even his
initial reaction was just sort of like, oh, this is
disturbing or unnerving, but no, no call for like him
(24:29):
to step aside or whatever. And you know, saying that
the people of Alabama will sort it out is not
taking a stance in any way whatsoever, because that's being like,
people will decide for themselves if these women are lying,
and because that's what Roy Moore says. When the questions
that are even being posted Sarah Hugby were like will
(24:49):
he rescind his endorsement of Roy Moore? And then it
was just sort of like, We'll let the people decide,
Like that's not the question I'm asking. You're asking if
the president is like co signing an accused pedophile. Right, Uh,
didn't you hear that Bannon was like reaching out. I
was reading an article about that. Yes, Steve Bannon apparently
reached out to Sean Hannity, because on Tuesday, Sean Hannity
(25:10):
gave Roy more like twenty four hours to explain the
whole kind of story. It seemed like the wave was
cresting to be like fuck Roy Moore, get him out
of here. So Hannity came out strongly yeah, and he
was like, hey, if you don't like I would suggest
that you step aside or whatever if you can't produce
some kind of defense for why your stories just don't
add up and this whole thing looks like shit, and
he wrote, you know, Roy Moore put this really whack
(25:32):
open letter together that was really not much of anything.
And then the next day Sean Hannity is like, well,
I think the people of Alabama will make the right choice.
And this was all on the heels of this reporting
that was suggested that Steve Bannon reached out to Sean
Hannity to be like, that's that's that's that's my guy.
That's my guy. Can you like just ease up a
little bit, don't totally flame him? And then and then
(25:53):
if you look, it's like lockstep with what Sarah Sanders
says too, it's like decide. So that's clearly something that
seems like it might be coming from the Bannon camp
because it's his guy, like and a lot of it too,
as I'm sure Bannon has been communicating with Trump or
his camp being like, this is your base, These Bannon
Knights are your base, So don't abandon them because you
(26:15):
already don't have anybody out here. Meanwhile, more people are
coming out right and m like, yeah, I know. He
was a well known pedophile at this mall. He like
assaulted these women. Uh yeah. And then there's like another
one who said like he called her in trigonometry class.
He yeah, so she worked at the mall. He kept
being like, Hey, can I get your number? I want
(26:36):
to ask you out. I'm a thirty three year old
man and she's like sixteen, and she was like, no,
my dad would be mad if you called my house.
So he knew what high school she went to. He
called the high school and had her pulled out of
class and he was like, hey, it's Roy Moore. What
are you up to? And she was like, I'm in
triggonometry class. What the funk is wrong with you? And
(26:59):
like he just basically badgered her until she'd go on
a date with him, and then he tried to kiss
her at the end of the night, and she was like,
I felt very uncomfortable, but because like it's just a
daughter age. Yeah, yeah, it is weird, like just learning
about like all the intricacies of how far people are
going out of their way to protect this system that
(27:19):
is actively crumbling anyways, where they're like, oh, how long
can we like get this to it's Unfortunately in the GOOP,
I feel like it's more likely to work out in
their favor because it seems like a lot of the
GOP based does not want to believe that any of
this is happening anyways, were most like I think nationally
though everyone recognized every way More is just a scumback.
But like these evangelical conservative Christians, especially in Alabama, are
(27:42):
a unique set of voters right and also because there
is this entire apparatus of uh, you know, right wing
news outlets that are focusing all of their efforts on
convincing people in Alabama that it's a it's a it's
from Bernie Burn from New York. Um. That is, if
(28:04):
people didn't listen to an episode earlier those two weeks. Yeah,
they they had a robot call where they tried to
make it sound like the Washington Post was calling around
asking for people to lie and say that Roy More
sexually abused them. But the that's so much work. And
the character who they had was a journalist from the
(28:27):
Washington Post named Bernie Burnt. Voice was whacked like that
sounded like a Jerky Boys character, like a rejected Jerky
Boys character. Also in the Mengazi, uh It's come out,
woman who was sixteen and nine six uh says that
Sylvester Stallone had sex with her and then like after
(28:50):
they had sex, was like, hey, can you also like
have sex with my bodyguard who then came out of
the bathroom where he had been the whole time, and
then like they forced her to do uh bad stuff
that you know, you can go read about yourself, but
it's really fucked up stuff. This is when Stallone was
in Vegas filming Over the Top, so that movie is
(29:13):
ruined and the movie was fucking dumb to begin with.
What Yeah, it's about sucking arm wrestling. Yeah, but I
was gonna compare this being Jamie's fourth appearance to Rocky four,
which is the best Rocky but uh, it just seems inappropriate.
It's gone, baby, We're done with them. It's it's yeah.
The one one last thing I have to say about
(29:36):
Mangazi is it's interesting like watching people because I do
understand that it's like if if these are people that
are you know, friends, whether this be political or entertainment
is like there is like a processing time. Like Sarah
Silverman just talked about Louis for the first time, like
on her on her show on Hulu, and I was
personally not super thrilled with how she handled it. But
(30:01):
basically it was like, Okay, well this is clearly true,
but he's my friend, so it's hard to like process
and it's like okay, but also like it's not really
about like you know, I don't know. I just like
people need to use their platforms responsibly. Man. Yeah, and
I feel like there's just like missed opportunity after missed opportunity,
(30:23):
not by like and I'm not saying they're bad people,
but it's just like, well, yeah, this is the time
where you use your platform to help people and not
be like this is actually really hard for me, right right, Okay,
put the spotlight on the culture itself, right, not like right. Well,
the same thing with with like Trump using the excuse
of like it's just I don't have I don't have time.
(30:44):
It's like, dude, you do, like make the time. I
don't know he won't. All right. We have a couple
updates from stories from earlier this week. The Meek Mill story.
We talked about, um, how he had this like wacky
judge who was harassing him, trying to get him to
re record Boys to Mends on bended knee and uh
(31:06):
just do all this strange ship. Jay Z wrote an
op ed talking about, uh, this story in the New
York Times today, and there are a couple of details
we missed. So uh, you know, we had heard that
he had been arrested in the last year, which were
violations of his probation, which sounds bad, um, But so
one arrest was for an altercation out of St. Louis Airport,
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but when video of the altercation was released, all charges
were dropped because it clearly wasn't his fault. And then
he was arrested for driving recklessly in New York, which
I imagined he was. They said it was for popping
a wheelie on a dirt bike. I imagined he was,
you know, doing wheelies in Times Square, like in the
middle of traffic. Uh. No, it was actually on the
(31:51):
set of a video during a video shoot. He uploaded
a video of himself doing a wheelie two in Instagram
and a cop was following him and like watching his
Instagram and saw the video and you know, used that
to arrest him. Like, so they're clearly out to get
(32:12):
this dude. Like the judge who is we've already talked about,
is crazy and just looking for any excuse to be
in a room with Meek Mills so she can tell
him who she thinks his manager should be. She was
trying to get him to switch management to like a
friend or a relative of hers. Uh, she is actively
fucking with him. And Jay Z's editorial was about the
(32:34):
fact that, you know, probation is used to a lot
of the time harassed black men. Like he said, as
of two thousand fifteen, one third of the four point
six five million Americans who were on some sort of
parole or probation were black, which is obviously way disproportionate
to how many black people there are in the country
(32:54):
or like what portion of the population they are. Um, so,
I don't know. He says black people are sent to
prison for probation and parole violations at much higher rates
than white people, which you know isn't surprising, but it's
still pretty troubling. And you know, so this Meek Mill
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story also seems to be about a bigger kind of
trend in the justices, and there's some studies actually just
came out I think this week, just confirming what most
people already knew that Uh, men of color are inordinately
faced much higher prison sentences than they're white counterparts. So
this is the second time that Meek Mill has been
sent to prison for parole violations. So jay Z points
(33:38):
out that meek Mill was around nineteen when he was
convicted on charges relating to drug and gun possession, and
he served his entire eight months sentence, so he did
his time. Uh. And jay Z says, now he's thirty,
so he's been on probation for basically his entire adult life.
And with this infraction, the judge sent him to prison.
(34:00):
But the prosecution, the prosecutor in the case, which prosecutors
are not known for being like friendly. Uh, the prosecutor
recommended no additional jail time. They were like, no, this
is not a big deal, and the judge sent him
away to prison. Uh. In two thousand and fourteen, the
judge ordered him to take etiquette classes. Uh. He was
jailed for five months for uh like some perceived slight
(34:26):
and uh oh it was because he performed out of
state without her permission, and you know, he's trying to
make a living as an artist. Uh And according to
meek Mill, he spent much of that five months in
solitary confinement, which will do a future segment on solitary
but uh, just according to everybody who knows stuff about
(34:47):
like human torture, uh that that is like the worst
thing you can do to a human being. And he
was uh sent to solitary confinement for months at a
time because he uh performed out of town and this
judge was trying to um. One bit of good news
for meek Mill is apparently, uh the judge has set
(35:10):
a bail hearing for him on November, so he may
be allowed to be freed on bail pending appeal. After
you yeah, I you have to imagine that's something to
do with it. Well, yeah, I mean because not even that.
You know, it's been reported that the FBI was investigating
this judge because of her asking meek Mill to switch
his management companies, as like they're viewing that as like
(35:32):
an extortionate demand, so that I feel I can't do
that when you judge that way, because it is um,
so that's cool of the judge to consider letting him
go after he's spent Thanksgiving in prison for popping a
wheelie in a video. Also, we covered a really weird
YouTube channel yesterday called Toy Freaks, made by a gentleman
(35:56):
named Freak Daddy or who refers to himself as freak Daddy,
who where he basically on camera has his you know,
six and eight year old daughters dressed up his babies
and baby onesies and throw up food and do all
all sorts of things that appear to be directly uh
staged for people with weird fetishes. Uh. That channel, which
(36:18):
had hundreds of millions of views on a lot of
their videos, was taken down. You can no longer watch
these children being abused by their father. Uh we're calling
that the daily zeitgeist effect took it down. Yeah, we
know it's included, not us. They've been they've been looking
at this for a minute. But yeah, let's just we'll
(36:39):
take credit. And also if Meek Mill gets out, that's
all us. All right, let's take a quick break and
we'll be right back after this and we're back. Uh
what a break? What rake? Uh? And we're thrilled to
(37:01):
be joined by superproducer Ana Hosnier for bloyd Watch um Bloyds.
So this is where we take a look at the
headlines that people are seeing as they line up in
the grocery store, because these words are entering millions of
(37:21):
people's minds every day. People still need to buy milk
no matter what, unless you're lactose intolerant. I guess, um,
So what are we seeing on the headlines? Guys? Uh?
There is The National enquire has a headline that is
claiming that Joe Biden is attacking Obama. Specifically, it says
(37:42):
bitter Biden, it tacks Obama. So so their headline is
Obama stabbed me in the back exclamation point. Obviously never
says that. Uh. What he does talk about is that
Obama wanted to avoid a primary that would do damnage
to the eventual Democratic candidate. Uh. And Obama seemed to
(38:05):
think that Hillary had the better chance, or at the
very least that Hillary was not going to back down.
So what one actually interesting quote they did pull from
his book is she did not talking about Hillary. He
says she did not evince much joy at the prospect
of running. She seemed to me like a person propelled
(38:25):
by forces, not entirely of her own making, uh, which
is an interesting take that I hadn't heard, Like you
always heard that Hillary was just this ambitious person who
was singularly driven by a mission to become president eventually.
And Biden's take was she was kind of over it
by that point and was going through the motions. That's
(38:46):
his take. That's his take. It's an interesting take. It
has nothing to do with the headline on National Enquire
with bitters Obama, I'm going to get a tattoo that, uh.
And then they also say proof Jagger Hoover ordered JFK murder,
but they probably don't have that. What y'all got, oh man,
(39:07):
let me let me tell you all what I got
here the National Examiner, they've got a doozy on the cover.
First of all, it says the Amazing Secret Life of
Queen Elizabeth. She's just like us. We already know that. Okay,
we know she drives her own car sometimes and goes
grocery stopping whatever. But they say she's addicted to McDonald's,
loves to drink in gamble clips, coopons to save on cash.
On the inside, though when you start reading it, she's
(39:28):
not addicted to McDonald's. They say she enjoys McDonald's from
time to time, and they point to the fact that
she owns, I guess a franchise, like in a strip
mall somewhere. So yeah, So anyway, that's that. But the
real juicy one is this one revealed hidden Bible prophecies.
Now this is for all my Yeah, these are for
(39:48):
all my evangelical Christians out here. According to a scripture scholar, uh,
this man has radically different interpretations of the Bible, and
this man has revealed startling new prophecies that will come
true next year. First of all, they call this person
a leading scholar. I tried to google him. There's nothing
about this person. His name is Professor Gerhard Looks, a
theological analyst and director of the respected Global Conference on
(40:10):
Scriptural Research in Berlin. I was not able to find
much information on this. But apparently uh, he basically painstakingly
examined the original wordings in ancient languages and cross referenced
multiple texts and developed what he calls matrix is of modality.
And he basically says that he developed new insights on
what the scriptures say it will occur. So you want
(40:32):
to hear some of these hot fucking takes that are
apparently in the Bible. This is what this man is
saying in his re analyzed version of the Bible. What
these prophecies are. One medicare will run out of money
much sooner than expected. Only that's one of Jesus. That
was It was another great one, a new fad inhaling
alcohol infused vapor exactly. How about this one? I think
(40:58):
this is from Philippian three or fourteen, actually reads new
technology using brain sensations will allow dogs and cats to
answer simple questions and communicate with people. That's amazing. Another one,
John three sixteen poisoned candy from China will sick in
thousands around the world. Another one Colossians from the Book
(41:21):
of Collossians. I mean again, I'm just making up these Bibles.
He's not. He's not saying that's what the sixteen says.
But I'm just having fun. But these are his this
is what he's saying, the Bible says. Vladimir Putin, weary
of trying to manage Russia's struggling economy, will resign and
become a political commentator and lifestyle guru on US television.
So I mean most of these are like understandable predictions.
They're just like trying to like make a prediction about
(41:43):
like a trend or some ship that is the least
likely thing to happen. Ever, absolutely would become a political
comment lifestyle guru. Right, there's a couple more. A member
of a successful pop music group will spontaneously burst into
flames on stage. Who could it be? Yeah, I mean
(42:05):
that would be spontaneous combustion has yet to ever be proven.
But again, if the Bible thing is gonna happen, jay
z cha, someone look out for jay z Chaz. Another
one is Bill and Hillary Clinton will relocate to a
country that does not have an extradition treaty with the
U S, supposedly for their retirement. Yeah, the Bible is
supporting your right wing number. Steve benn is just going
(42:28):
under the name gar Heart, Like what about those emails?
And then last one isis will be replaced by an
even more violent organization whose members sometimes carry out suicide
attacks against one another. Yea hot take, let them know, Yeah,
(42:50):
they really called their shot with a couple of those. Yeah,
uh uh, you know, I did not realize this, but
apparently Kendall Jenner is dating uh Blake Griffin, which I
think is quite alarm I don't ask, but I I
think we need to get in there and get him
out of this Kardashian situation. Basketball players notoriously are ruined
(43:14):
by dating Kardashians. They fuck skill out of basketball players,
it is and football players. We can't allow this to happen.
We need him out there. Yeah, I mean, what like
he's an explansionists putting up good numbers. I think, yeah,
he's done all right. But look, James Harden got in
and out pretty quick and he's doing way better. So
(43:35):
is that the trick? You get in and out and
don't get married. So James Harden dated I think Chloe
Chloe over a off season. Uh supposedly she dumped him
and then for like two months at the beginning of
the season he was a disaster. People were like, what
happened that, James Harder because like when rookie of the
(43:56):
year's arm like breaks and like you becomes not good anymore.
They put something in the food, right, But then but
then James Harden eventually it wore off and he became
the natural again. I'm mixing my metaphors of sports movies.
I guess are they all just competing to see who
can date the best basketball player? Because like, obviously Kim
(44:16):
set the bar real low with Chris Humphries. Yeah, and
then Chloe. Then Chloe's James Harden. Wasn't she with Reggie Bush?
I think they're just trying to like the biggest, like
media star, and I think Kim just one. And now
that if you're really going for those those impressions on
(44:37):
the internet, Jamie, what you got? I got Star Magazine,
which is mostly just the stars. They're just like us. Hey,
look they're filling up. Guess I did come across a
compelling picture of Lisa Bonet and a donkey that I'd
be remiss not to mention. Why is she walking? It
looks like she's walking a donkey just down the street,
down the road, apparently because she's in love the editors,
(44:58):
because the captured is days after news broke that she
had wed longtime love Jason Momoa ak aquaman, who is
apparently just around uh, Lisa bone It was with a
donkey not too far from here into Panca, California. She
she is in a leather jacket. She's walked around with
a donkey. She seems perfectly content. Yeah, I have to
(45:20):
assume that amazing. It is great. There's beads involved. We've
got to assume that Jason Momoa was like, you know,
around one of us, most likely because this may have
been the most spottable man uh currently in the city.
But yeah, at least bone hang out with a donkey.
Mary Kay Nashley are still alive. There's a great Really,
(45:43):
they're talking about their style evolution and it truly they
could not be more boring if they tried. You know,
they like long black robes these days. Yeah, they're just
sort of they're like monk chic because like the chic. Yeah, yeah,
(46:05):
there was Um, should I add one more? Apparently Angelina
Jolie is wasting away after this. I mean that is
kind of a really sad photo of her looking very
very thin, they think according to the author of the
Accidental Diet from Fugly to Fox, she is eighty two
pounds when she technically should be between one to one
(46:27):
for her age and frame. Yeah. No, I mean there
was that big like Oscar's moment where she like went
up on the stage and like stood kind of funny
like with her leg out to the side. And then
when Jim Rash won the Oscar, he did the funny
thing where he stood with his leg out to the side. Uh,
classic Jim Rash. Jim Rash is a funny dude. Check
out after Stranger Things starting, Jim Rash good. I literally
(46:51):
watched all of it. Very embarrassing. Really, that's embarrassing. I
love m um. He's the principal from community for people
who don't you want an Oscar? Yeah, he wrote the Descendants.
Oh yeah, weird career. Yeah, he's just like a talent.
But so there was that moment where she like went
(47:13):
up and stood that way, and people were like, what
does any pop culture moment? But like nobody talking about
the fact that she looked like very sick. She was like, super,
I don't. I hope she's good. I hope, Yeah, I
do too. She really really struggled with Brad Pitt and
uh man, they're trying to that film Allied it. Yeah,
(47:34):
so they're trying to tie that to her weight loss.
I think I was just trying to tie the whole divorce,
in the whole situation to her weight loss. Kids. Yeah, yeah,
it's up. But the magazines, right, well, we have learned
about the tabloids. Is if it is possible to tie
a story to Brad Pitt dating a woman, Uh, it
(47:57):
is going to happen. Uh, it's gonna save print. Back
to Kardashians, guys. In Touch, it is going to save print.
In Touch is reporting that Kylie, who is pregnant with
Travis Scott's child, is pregnant and cheated on Travis scottis
(48:18):
which I mean, the Astros did just win, so I'm
sure he was just party. Is he a big Astros? Yes? Yeah,
I don't know. I feel like there's like a mixture
of sort of uh, you know, wanting to be the
Kardashians and being jealous of their lives and also schanen Freud,
is that how you pronounced where people love to see
(48:41):
bad things happen to that. I guess that's true of
all celebrities. So I don't have a point. The magazine
and in case you see the Globe which says perv
Harvey Weinstein jailed, Uh, he has not been jailed. It's
actually a fairly convincing photoshop. But they turned to the
actual story. They have an It's just like, man, that
guy should go to jail. How this can't even make
(49:05):
sense of that tense wise, you're just like straight up
lying on the cover. Uh So that's what I got
going on in Blood Watch anything anybody wants to bring
up before we In Miles Blood, I caught a glimpse
of Thomas Kincaid set that's being sold. It's Thomas Kinkaid season. Everybody,
You're gonna want to buy Thomas Kincaid paintings and puzzles.
(49:27):
Also remember that Thomas Kincaid, who, by the way, no
one remembers, has been dead for like six years. Uh,
once whipped his dick out at Disney World and pissed
on his statue of Mickey Mouse. That's Thomas Kinkaid. Watch.
Thomas Kinkaid is the guy who paints those like the
painter of Light. Yeah, I'm upset. I'm obsessed with Thomas Kinkaid.
He yeah, he just wants does he had? He was
(49:48):
having a day and he just whipped his dick out
of Disney World and just pissed on a statue of
Mickey Mouse. Turn Yeah. He is the painter of every
shitty painting in like dentist's offices. Yeah, and like, yeah,
my aunt is the one we should get. We should
hang some kinkaids in here. Oh and Reba McIntyre has
been her husband of twenty six years dumped her for
(50:10):
her best friend. Country Superstar turns to faith and Friends
and says, I'm happier than ever with the most manic
smile interface. Yeah. They couldn't have picked a meaner. Yeah, like,
I'm a less convincing picture for him. Happier than ever?
I don't know. She looks pretty happy, but it's good
to Reba. Still out there. Of Reba the TV show,
It's tight, isn't Yeah? Yeah? Yeah, hell single mom who
(50:32):
works too hard? All right? That is gonna do it
for our season finale, and we're gonna try something new
out where. This weekend we release a highlight reel of
the week's shows, so it'll be basically the weekly Zeitgeist,
so you can listen back and if you missed any episodes,
here what you missed, um, so you can look forward
(50:56):
to that. Jamie, thank you so much for joining us
for the four of time. Hey, thanks for having me
for the fourth time. Fourth times a charm, fourth time.
Maybe I'm gonna get it right one of these days. Yeah,
we're just having you back to be like, she's gonna
get a's gonna We're really going to whip her into shape.
Yeah right, No, you're the best. Where can people find you?
I find me on Twitter at Hamburger Phone. You can
(51:17):
listen to my podcast, the beck del Cast, and and
then just look look around look around for me. I'm
like Jason, Mamma, I just pop up places. Yeah, that's true.
And she is stunning in person like it seems like
she's like a superhero. Yeah. He tattoos are incredible. She
looks like a dulf racky. Uh. I got my little
(51:37):
worm tattoo. Anas. It's been it's been a joy to
have you on. Thank you so much. Where can people
find you? I'm on Twitter at Anna Host. Yeah, you
also have a podcast, don't you. I do have a
podcast called Ethnically Ambiguous about being Brown in America. And
if you want to hear me go crazy on Saudi Arabia,
I'm gonna go crazy. Miles of Gray is on this
(52:01):
last week's episode. Please give a listen. You learned so
much about his deep personal history with his immigrant parents.
It is a really good ship parent up on all
sorts of Middle Eastern news that you probably don't know about,
and we're lad you do know about. And Anna's picture
was next to Oprah yesterday, that's true. You can find
me under the bold women's section of iTunes. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
(52:27):
it's been truly a pleasure to have you yes week.
Where where can people find you? You can find me
probably watching some Rebo McIntyre reruns in a second off
of the suggestion of j Low over here. But if
you're more interested in like the social media thing like
Twitter and Instagram, holler at me on at Miles of
Gray g r A y not g r e y
a y. You can follow me at Jack Underscore O'Brien,
(52:50):
or you can find me watching Roseanne, which is the
superior team Barbara Jeane, did you hear Roseanne's coming back
from the dead? Yeah, no, Roseanne the show is coming
back there like full they're housing that, which I feel
like John better Uh what John Goodman, Yeah, with the
whole cast Lorie Metcalf, uh Yeah, which I feel like
(53:14):
that is a show that we need in this moment.
We need a show about what it's like to be Roseanne. Honestly,
a million percent I take reb a reboot Rebo give
me the reboot baby. You can find me at Jack
Underscore O B R I E. And you can find
us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter. Our website is daily
(53:37):
Zeitgeist dot com, where you can find our footnotebo where
we post links to all of the stuff we're talking about.
Except for the tabloids. They don't put that ship online,
so you'll just have to trust us to your local supermarket. Uh.
You can find us on Instagram at the Daily Zeitgeist,
and we have a Facebook page that is the Daily
(53:57):
Zeitgeist that we will begin updating again fairly soon. Uh.
Let's give shouts out to the wonderful people who make
this show. The Daily Zigeist is produced by Anna Josnier
and Nick Stump. Our project manager is Sophie Lichterman. Uh.
The show is written by all those people, Miles and
(54:20):
I and each day's guest. Uh. It is also written
by Jam McNabb, Alison Zeidman and Sam Rabman, and it
is edited by Nicholas Stump and Laurence Stump. The theme
song is by Dream Panther and Trey Finley, and the
in between music is by Brian Brian Brian, I don't
(54:42):
want air him out like that. He's like, he's like Bono,
but just Bryan Bryan. Uh. And that's gonna do it
for this week. Thanks for listening. Listen this weekend for
the Weekly Zeitgeist, the Highlight Reel, and we'll be back
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