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January 3, 2018 56 mins

In episode 56, Jack & Miles are joined by comedian Carl Tart to discuss Justin Timberlake's rebranding as a white man, country music's origin, China's thoughts on Trump, Hoda Kotb taking over Matt Lauer's job, most anticipated albums of 2018 & more.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season twelve, Episode two
of DOS Daily Site Guys. Per January third, two thousand eighteen.
My name is Jack O'Brien, a K. Jack. I want
you to paint me like one of your French girls, uh,
courtesy Dale Chaplin, sort of, and I'm joined by my
co host, Mr Miles Gray. Yes it's your boy, Ainsley Maitland.

(00:22):
Miles of Gray. Thank you for that really hard tongue
twister of ak Marcus Man get out there I think
in the UK or maybe not, but anyway, that's a
shout out to one of my favorite at players young players. Anyway,
that's a long winded intro. Dale Chaplin gave me hang
on or never let go, Jack, But I feel like
I wanted you to pay me like one of your
French girls. Is the more known tweaked it a little bit.

(00:45):
I still punched you up, Dale, But Dale, it was
a great idea. I love it. Uh. And we are
thrilled to be joined in our third see by one
of the funniest people working today. I always say he's
like one of the only names that I looked up
immediately when I heard him on Comedy Bang Bang Uh.
He is the hilarious host of one of our upcoming podcasts,

(01:09):
Culture Kings. Carl Tart Oh boy, oh boy, My favorite
soccer player is Daniel Sturridge. Oh former or he still
is at Liverpool. But yeah, you like study. I only
like it because he was on the b T Wars Computing.
Oh so you only know him from being on the
bt Wards and then he plays so yeah, have you
seen him do his goal dance celebration? No, it's that's

(01:30):
real goofy. Yeah, it's like it looks like you remember
in the Chapelle Show where that one dude in the
background would always do the It's sort of like that.
But shoutouts to Daniel Search. Yeah, Carl, Huh, what's something
premier search history that is revealing about who you are?
Let me check sim City for green meddlers. Now here's
what this is for. Okay, sim City four four. I

(01:53):
was just saying we need more gaming on the show,
So here we go. It's a couple of years old.
So when you start the city, pollution happens because you
have to have an industrial area and stuff like that.
But you gotta set up water. Everywhere needs water, so
there's water pumps in the industrial areas because the industrial
places need water. So these what they call green meddlers,
which are like green peace type people coming like shut

(02:14):
down water pipes and that, like because of pollution and
stuff like that, and so that like interferes with all
the other water in the city, so like in residential
areas and stuff like that they don't have. So I
was googling trying to find on like boards, like how
to stop these niggas. They like they they pissing me

(02:35):
off because like that alert keeps popping up because it's
like an emergency. But the water, even though it's not
that serious, it's like when you turn on your uh,
when you turn the time and the speed of the
game all the way up, like it does it faster
because but I'm like, I'm trying to get more money,
I'm trying to build my city up. I'm trying to
have a metropolis. It's kind of like an anti environmentalist

(02:58):
message sort of, yeah, green pieces just to pain in
the Yeah, and that's what they're green medallers. They literally
say in the little thing like what's what's wrong with
a little pollution? They say that in the thing like this,
So this is what city planners are saying in places
like Flint, it's not that bad. We have to save
the better water for grand rapids. I don't know where

(03:19):
wherever there, I don't know. What's something like that, Just
like that game came out in two thousand three. It's
a couple of years old, said a couple of years old,
and I was like, oh, ship, like we're only at
four and then I was like two thousand three, so
you're still playing it, still playing it. I've used to
work hard with Some City two thousand when that came out,
because also I used the mad cheeko porn tips Cazardo

(03:42):
and you just play Ardo Ardio and then just fill
up your money, fill up your money, fill up your money,
and you know, because I don't like to play by
the rules just playing. What did you just say, like
you could type certain things on the keyboard in the game,
and like that was a cheat code, so like with
a certain one you preface it with like I think
it's like it was some weird I'm pretty sure it's
porn tips, gazard or something. You said cheap code. That

(04:04):
makes sense. I thought you said something, Chico. I was
very confused. Yeah, uh, Carl what's something that's overrated? Over rating?
I'm gonna say, logic the rapper is overrated? Oh wow yeah,
Mr three oh one, Yeah, isn't that his like handled

(04:25):
He's cool, but I'm not. I'm just I needed something quick. Guys,
don't at me big logic fans, what what was your
first instinct of why he's overrated? Just because I listened
to his music and I'm never I'm like, oh yeah,
people really give him credit for like being a dope
ass rapper in this in this era, mumble rapping and

(04:46):
stuff like that, and I'm like, yeah, he's not that tight.
I mean, he's a decent lyricist, he's not like he's
not coming with like the straight up mumble bullshit. No no, yeah, yeah,
he's okay. I like a couple of his songs, but
the one that's like real popular it has like the
suicide hotline. I just want to be a live I
don't want to be a lie. Yeah. I like that too.

(05:07):
I gotta be honest, sometimes I like the hook of
it easy for the first time on the New Year's Eve,
like countdown. That dude's not great. He said, he's like
he's a fan favorite of like people who don't really
know rap. I feel like I don't feel any like
real hip hop has or like y Geezy check him out,
And I feel like people flame him constantly on Twitter.

(05:28):
They say he looked like a bad guy of like
some Pixar film. I forget what it was, like. He
kind of has that vibe. Um, what's something that's underrated?
Underrated in the same genre of music, I'm gonna say
Young Thug is underrated. I do think he gets hate
because he is a crazy person. And uh, but when

(05:52):
you listen to what he's saying, first of all, you
don't don't take this out of context. When you listen
to what he's saying, most of the time it makes
no cohesive sense. But I think he freestyles his ship,
Like I heard that he draws pictures on like a
pad and then takes that into the booth and it
just kind of rides the beat and he changes his voice.
I've been listening to Beautiful Girls the mixtape a lot

(06:16):
recently because it's just a song on there that I
just keep playing over and over again called do You
Love Me? And uh, he's good man like, like he
says some crazy he says crazy ship like and it's
like like it sounds like a rapper who's bringing a
drawing into the booth, ye, and it's like you kind
of gotta respect that. Creatively, he's on some other ship

(06:38):
and there's a lot of like he reverted back to
like eating pussy a lot that's usually like one of
his like consistent punch line but which is like a
little wain thing and I've always associated them or like
at first I thought he was like kind of a
very heavily influenced by Little Wind, but now I think

(06:59):
he's obviously got it. He's like one of the most
unique rappers. I remember when I first heard Danny Glover
that song that he did, I'm like, oh, this is
fucking It was interesting because like it was so different,
and I was like, this is someone who clearly just
has their own vibe and they're just like staying true
to it, which they want to. Yeah, And he's a
good thing. He like changes his voice up so much
on tracks, which I also love, Like no rappers really

(07:21):
do that. Now he'll be like doing that, I don't know,
And then he would be like like there's a part
of this song called family Don't Matter, which also has
some very stupid lyrics. Right, I'm on the stars all day,
maybe sit your dog all day? And it's like, what
are you talking about? But my family don't matter. It's like,
why does that make? Why does babysitting somebody's dog making
seem like family doesn't matter anyway? In that verse, he

(07:43):
has a verse on there where he just plays his
character named country Billy. He's Country Billy made a couple
of Milly got to park the rolls roys outside to
pick up daily and it's like, what he's just rapping
as somebody else. I love it? And how to know
that if that story is true, that he's just like
randomly drawing some stuff like all right, I think I
got it, just like in the booth with that, you
can definitely listen to the song and go he's freestyling this, like,

(08:04):
there's no way this is written. It's too it's too consciousness.
It's to streaming consciousness. But also if he is freestyling
that stuff, it is amazing. He's like the Tony Morrison's
beloved Yea, yeah, so I think he's underrated because I
think people loop them into although I will say people
are giving I'm a little bit more respect now that

(08:24):
we have like even worse mumble rappers like Girl, Like,
I think people are like, oh no, Young Doug, He's
going to be originals. Like I think that's what that's
happening all over culture right, Like there's people that are
so fucking bad now that people who were normally shitty
were like, oh yeah, that exact Yeah. Uh, what's a

(08:45):
song to start with? A song to start with Young Doug? Uh,
let's go with beautiful Thugg of girls. I want you
to listen to relationship. Relationship was It was one of
the singles honestly album and it is uh with Future.
You probably know it. It's it's proper you know the songs.

(09:06):
It's popular right now. It's a relationship by Young Thug
featuring Future. It's beautiful Girls. There's also another song on
his album called You Said, and he he's just like
The song starts off with him lyrically like accosting somebody.
I don't know if it's a man or woman, but
him accosting him saying like, you know, so, what was

(09:28):
all that slick talking you were saying to me over there?
Like like basically like and then the song goes into
like what that person said they would do. But the
lyrics are you said you would suck me to death.
I believe you. You said that. You said that, you
said you're gonna do me that orse. I remember you
went and you said that, you said you're gonna kiss
from my neck to my chest and my neighbor the
dicking nuts. I'm like this, he didn't write this, like

(09:54):
a matter of fact, Do I still get to pick
a song for the end. That's not gonna be it.
It's gonna be a surprise. Stay tuned. Um, all right,
we're gonna get into format. We're trying to take a
sample of the ideas that are out there changing the world.
We talked about pop culture, the news, the president at times.
We're trying to take a temperature of the global share consciousness. Miles,

(10:15):
what is our temperature to that? I think we're steady.
We're still steady. It's to new year. Actually, no way,
hold on what am I saying? Fucking Donald Trump just
kind of turned the knob last night. So yeah, we're
maybe like and we like to start out by asking
our guests for a myth, something that, uh, the national
share consciousness believes to be true. That is actually bullshit, Carl,

(10:36):
Do you have a myth? Um? My myth is that
Taco Bell Baha Blast is only sold at Taco Bell
to drive more traffic to Taco Bell. WHOA, Okay, So
your conspiracy is that they are they're selling it exclusively
at Taco Bell because that's the only place you can

(10:59):
get it, and that's why people are going to talk
about just for the Baja Blast even don't talk about
it's delicious, talk about do you like baa Blast? Hell? Yeah?
And honestly, I can't. I can't go to I can't
go to uh Taco Bell. You know, I'm trying to
cut off the fast food and stuff like that, and
I can't go to talk about and not get a
Baja Blast. So I'm also trying to cut out soda,

(11:21):
Like SODA's like that ex for me. Like, so that's
like that ex that can text you any time, like
being you crumble and crumble, Yeah, you'd be strong. You know,
she's not good for you. What do you think Baja
Blast actually tastes? Because I remember when it first came out.
I'm like, okay, cool, it's like a light blue turquoise
mountain dew. But I can't. I can never actually quite

(11:42):
pinpoint my might like put my finger on like what
these flavors are aside from like sweet berry adjacent, So
they're not as much flavors as they are emotions. There's
no I don't think there's don't. I don't know what
it tastes like just taste color, is uh, Like when
you go to a miniature golf course and they have
that like blue water or barbercide. Maybe that's what that

(12:07):
tastes like. Barbara Barbara trying to get you like like
do the juggling you don't you want to taste it?
Like my barb used to do that, like I have
a sip. It was like I bet you it was.
He was probably like, that's my myth because what I
said wasn't the barber side doesn't. My myth is that
every time barbers try to get you to taste barb side,

(12:30):
they weren't trying to poison you. They were trying to
let your experience. That's what the combs said. It so
Pepsi cola. They had a real crazy uh. Their campaign
was to basically put Baha blast all over the country
as a precursor to get people hooked on Baha blast
and they were like they went into barbershops and they

(12:51):
were like, hey, so kill combs in this chemical mix
you it'll kill the germs on the combs. Also let
little kids drinking and they all thinks a bit and everybody,
everybody will have a laugh and you want to taste.
And then I used to say that that Barbara's used
to drink. That's stuff like any alcoholic h yeah, is

(13:11):
it like I don't know, like I feel like it
blast Barbara's side to prominent b sounds, it's blood. All right,
we're gonna get into the stories of the day. Uh.
Justin Timberlake has a new album coming out. Um and

(13:32):
there's this article in uh a outlet called The Outline
where they that's titled Justin Timberlake is rebranding as a
white man. Uh So all the promotional photos for this
are him in cowboy hats, like walking in the woods.
It looks kind of like one of those like Rustic
Levi's commercials. And they're sort of associating this with a

(13:56):
overall trend that they're seeing like my leys Iris had
her big uh you know, run of appropriation and then
last year apparently she released a a country pop album
where she was wearing her like cowboy hat all over
the place. Um and Lady Gaga released a more like

(14:18):
stripped down authentic album that was less like poppy and
uh more like piano music, and she was wearing a
cowboy hat. So there's like something with this cowboy culture
like being seen as more authentic for white artists. And
I had actually just read a really interesting run on

(14:41):
Twitter from Robin Pinacchia, Uh, probably pronouncing that wrong. She's
a writer for wan Cat and uh she talks about
how there's this like big conspiracy. We had actually written
about it, crack, but I totally forgot about it. Um
about how so in the early twentieth century, UM Henry Ford,

(15:05):
one of one of the wealthiest uh crazy anti semi
racists to ever have just all the money in the world,
decided he wanted to launch a campaign to give white
people a type of music and dancing because he was
worried about the influence of jazz and R and D,
which he had an interesting name for that, right, Yeah,

(15:27):
he called it like jungle music with like monkey house
or something. Yeah. Uh. And so he actually like started
a campaign where he tried to make square dancing popular,
Like he basically invented square dancing. It's only like forty
fifty years old, and uh like started paying schools to

(15:50):
put it in their PE curriculum because you guys, ever
did you take uh square dancing and pe? And I
didn't it. I didn't take I remember it was one
day and like they brought out a fucking record player.
That's why one of my memories because I was like
seven years old and like a fucking record and then
it was like playing some like weird thing and we

(16:12):
were all confused, like this is not that was part
of my education. Yeah, but for like two days in
uh gym class, you had to like square dance and
like nobody, nobody enjoyed it. Like it didn't really accomplish anything.
But so the reason for that was all part of
this conspiracy by a racist Henry for the car manufacturer,

(16:33):
because he thought that like, uh, jazz was a Jewish
conspiracy to make black music popular. Um, and so I
don't know, it's just interesting that we're associating uh, you know,
cowboy hats and you know country music, which also was
not originally white music. That was a campaign by him

(16:56):
to sort of make it. He basically backed the type
of country music that was more associated with white people
and back like white country artist. But it was an
actual conspiracy, uh, to make white people like country music,
and it worked apparently. Um, we didn't have the square
dance in elementary school. He did the electric slide MP

(17:19):
one day that Coach Pat shot up. Coach Pat Central
Elementary School, past Goule, Misissippi. We we did the Uh
you also missed both. You said that squared distance only
forty years old. You gotta remember this twenty forty years ago.
Was nineteen seventy eight, sixty something years I think jungle
music had taken over by that time. When then they

(17:40):
could do at that point's too late. Yeah, I mean
we'll see what this album is like. I mean it
still has like Farrella is in the like teaser video
for it, so it's clearly gonna have like. I know,
Justin can't totally abandoned his formula because you know there
are people who still like want the you know, the
the R and B version of Justin timber like. But yeah,
the visuals are very like I don't know if like

(18:01):
this is supposed to be his like lemonade or something.
I don't know why. It was like so dramatic with him,
like you know, it's like gladiator style, him touching the
wheat in the field like this with the sun coming through.
What if real was one of the horses, I'm breaking sexy, Yeah, exactly. Uh,
let's hope not that's that's that's that's not a new

(18:23):
thing though. Man, you know, like people, I think white
people love black ship until white people do black shit.
I don't know, And I feel like Vanilla Ice. I
don't know. I'm not gonna speak on that because I
was barely born, but uh Miley Cyrus has done it.
Justin jimmer Lake is doing it like Lady Got Like

(18:44):
it's like they it's like they go like like they're
trying to say, like I was lost before when I
was making all those millions of money, but now, um
now I'm I'm found and I found my roots and money.
So I was even taking this far a step further.
I don't I doubt Justin jimer Lake would do this
because he already got an astreach about his name with
black people because of what did Jen Jackson. But uh

(19:05):
My Cyrus even was like hip hop is bad negative
and like you motherfucker, Like you had some of the
songs like you're sucking Mike Will Yeah real and you're
like I mean nick with Mike James. One girl, Lanna
was one of those girls with the big butts dancing
for her. We went to high school together, like that's
my friend. She was a part of that that tork

(19:26):
crew that oh that everyone was like, oh, look at
your black female problems exactly. She even when she was
doing it, it was like pop problem. It was just
like you could tell she wasn't like regarding it in
the right way, you know. Um, but yeah, it's true
because thinking about like what remember ever last wasn't your
house of pain? And then he was like then whitey
four sings the Blue. Yeah, I guess the pendulum does

(19:50):
the other way some yarling, because I know what pop
culture is, man, pop popular culture. Hip hop culture is
popular culture, and it has been since I would say
probably the mid late nineties. Yeah, like, yeah, it's crazy
how I was wiser to say, like early two thousand's
when it really when it really because to me, like
when get Richard I try and came out, Yeah, that's

(20:11):
when I was surprised at how many people were like yo, man,
And I was like, you know what song is like
the ultimate like white dude song that I don't even
know the lyrics to. Uh, I forgot about Dre. Oh,
I don't know the lyrics of that song. I don't
know how it goes. I just know the hook. But
all of my white male friends know all the lyrics

(20:32):
to Forget Jacks. Yeah, that's my favorite song, Carl. That's okay.
So maybe we can't. We can. I believe you that
that can. That can be the year right there. Two
thousand one, we forgot about Dre came out that that's
it when I was in the hip hop cold because yeah,

(20:52):
he really I think he really mainstream hip hop for
a lot of white people. Yeah, I was gonna. I mean,
this kind of brings back to our overrated because it
does seem like there are some average ass rappers who
get very successful because they're white people. I don't know.
I mean, I think there's just just as many mediocre
black rappers too. Yeah yeah, I guess, but but it's
ours we can be mediocre. That this rapper is the

(21:14):
one thing that black people can be mediocre at. Everything goes,
we gotta be great at you gotta be Lebron and
the NBA. You gotta be Cam Newton in the NFL.
But you can be Kodak, Black hip hop, you can
be you can be take Off, you can take off
its tight? Is he your favor I think he's the
biggest one. He's not. He's not a promise. You listen
to his catalog, listen to take Off Essentials on Apple

(21:36):
Music or wherever you get your music, and he I
get there's no Takeoff Essentials, but there is a list
of of like songs that he is the feature rapper on.
He's type. It's just they're different, like he raps like offset,
except all says like records, own records, I got it,
and then take Off. That's like it's a different it's

(22:00):
a different tone, different cas I like them. Um, all right.
And then the other big pop culture news from the
last night is that Hoda is the new mat Cobe
Coby how do you say your last name? Kobe cote B.

(22:21):
Cote B was officially named as Matt Loward's replacement. Um,
which is great news, but then that this was immediately
overshadowed by the fact that I think the Hollywood Reporter
got a scoop on what Matt Lower was making and
what the new hosts like, this is the first time

(22:42):
that the Today Show or any I think morning show
has been uh two female hosts, and uh, both female
hosts are making a combined fourteen million I think reportedly.
So yeah, these are from an inside we don't know
if these are, but the two of them they're making
about seven million pieces from so combined, they're still making

(23:06):
just hosting the Today Show. Yes, yeah, that was that
was Yeah, that was just Today Show. That was the
bag he was getting from the Today Show. Well, yeah,
which and then because it also brings up the story
because in Iceland, they basically made it illegal for there
to be a gender pay gap, like they legalized equal
pay in Iceland, so this ship would not be happening
in woke Iceland because yeah, they shot up to them.

(23:28):
They really they literally just said you will be fined
if you're paying men more than you are paying women
for the same job. So it's already like what considered
one of like the most gender equal places. So it's uh,
you know, continuing that trend over there. People always talk
about those um Nordic countries as like being you know
this thing to aspire to. But they're pretty much. Yeah,

(23:50):
they're just all white people who are like three degrees
related to each other and are super racist the second
that anybody who doesn't look like them comes unto their
true Hey. But yeah, equal pay for equal pay, I mean,
there's not there's nothing saying that we can't take good
ideas from them. Uh. Nazi Germany had some of the
most progressive smoking laws. So yeah, what do you mean,

(24:13):
what's a what's a progressive smoking? They just new smoking
was bad for you before everybody else. Yeah, so they
made it illegal in public. Uh yeah, So I'm just saying, you, guys,
despite the genocide, they were really looking out for the
health of food servers from second hand smoke. Yeah. You
could actually hear everybody backing away from me when I
just said that. Yeah, here, all the wheels script, I'm outside.

(24:37):
All right, we're gonna take quick break. We'll be right
back where and we're back. So Donald Trump is back
in the news, not totally. Yeah. So there's a couple
of things we want to talk about. One is a

(25:00):
conspiracy theory that our J. M McNabb found, I guess
in the New York Times publication called The New York
Times where so Donald Trump one of the things that
his uh fake physical where his doctor was like, he's
the healthiest person I've ever seen, uh like definitely written

(25:20):
in Trump's handwriting, admitted that he is on Propeitia, which
is like the hair loss drug that I guess has
some side sexual side effects. Um, it also apparently causes
chronic depression and brain fog. I guess doesn't cause it,
but that's one of the potential side effects. Which when

(25:42):
you think about how many times Trump tweets end with
the words sad or just the word brain fog, and
how much he completely embodies that phrase. Uh, I don't know,
it's you start to wonder whether whether that's related or
what that could be at least a contributing factor. Also,

(26:02):
when you look at that tweet yesterday at Kim Jong
un like literally basically pulling his dick out and being
like at the end, like my button works, that he's
legitimately talking, I don't know how much clearer he had
to be that He's like, yo, I'm impotent and I'm
losing my mind and I'm also willing to kill us

(26:22):
all in the process. He ain't got that much life
left to live, so he probably did on that diet.
Who knows, that's what you would think, that's what you think. Yeah,
I mean it also, so the way that this drug
started out was as a prostate drug, like treated people's
in large prostates, and they just noticed that those people

(26:43):
tended to keep their hair, uh. And they first found
it because there was a town in Dominican Republic, yeah,
known as Portland's where this doctor had heard that little
girls turn into teenage boys. And they were like, well,
that that seems strange, and so they went down and
looked at it, and it was actually little boys people

(27:05):
who were born boys, but they had like tiny micro
penises that like you could barely you couldn't see, so
they assumed they were little girls. And then at a
certain point, like when they hit puberty, they turned into boys.
But it was because the thing that this drug blocks
was missing in these people. And that's how they discovered

(27:25):
that you could like basically take this chemical out of
older men and stopped them from losing hair. But it
is like a a micro dick related thing. So it
is it is interesting that Trump immediately starts tweeting about
how big his button is his button is bigger and
it actually works. It's just a very strange turn phrase.

(27:50):
That's not good. My button works, he's talking about he's
talking about the detonator button. I think I got big
old meshy thing on my desk, biggest falling off my desk,
so big, and I push it. I have you have
to punch it. You can't just touch it, gotta d

(28:11):
drop a fifty pound weight on it. But yeah, that's
part of a larger trend of There's a article from
the New Yorker that's talking about how China is viewing
him and our country by extension, and it's not very reassuring.
He wasn't the article just all the laughing cry face emojis. Yes,

(28:32):
it was just three pages of that in a line.
Uh no. But so it talks about how at first
they were and I think this is actually a good
sort of description of how everybody viewed him. At first.
They were like, wow, he really pulled it off. He
must be secretly like a gene brilliant. And they were like, really,
you know, worried they thought he was gonna, you know,

(28:53):
take it to them. And then they met with him.
He that that Mara Lago visit where Trump came out
and was like, I think I think she likes me.
I think was at the chocolate cake time. Yeah uh.
And his response as with me was I think he
likes me. I think so maybe he hates me, but
I think he likes me. It was like funk man

(29:15):
to like a sit down with that energy and the
she jim Ping left the meeting being like, wow, he
like takes everything literally he doesn't. Yeah. They were like
he's like, I got these fortune cookies for everyone and
are usually jing. They were just like taken aback by
how like simple minded and like how simple his view

(29:37):
of Asia was like how little he knew? Uh, and
like the fact that he came out of the meeting
was like, wow, this North Korea thing is really complicated.
They were like, what you didn't know that? I feel
like there's been an article like that for everything? Right,
Like there was he was like, wow, health insurance is
actually pretty complicated, immigration things pretty complicated for then did

(30:00):
he think? Right? I think that's what appealed to so
many people because he's as simple, he's as simple to
a right, Yeah, this ship is this is complicated, but yeah,
but we've been trying to tell you that for a
year and then I want to listen to you, right, Yeah,
And I mean it's very easy to identify with I
certainly didn't know how complicated all that ship was. Um

(30:23):
backs away from Jack again, I I totally identify with
Trump and his views. But so they're they're now viewing
the Trump presidency has like a huge opportunity to become
the leader on the world stage because yeah, essentially, and uh,

(30:45):
it's sort of a national mood that's like sweeping through
this past summer. They had their most successful movie in
the history of Chinese cinema, and it's just like an
action movie. It was actually part two of the franchise.
Uh it's similar to Uh, have you guys seen Rambo too? Okay,
So Rambo one was like a decent sized hit. Rambo

(31:07):
two was this monster hit and it was like because
uh it like in it, Rambo went back and won
the Vietnam War. It goes back to Vietnam and like
just defeats the entire Vietnamese army, like North Vietnamese Army
by himself. And so it was like clearly like dealing

(31:28):
with a wound that America had and they're unconscious and
like so, uh, it became like five times as successful
as the first one, and this seems like a similar thing.
This is a sequel to a just a standard action
movie that became their most successful movie ever. And it's
climax is this Chinese action star beating an American to death.

(31:49):
It's about China taking a bigger role on the national stage.
They're like, uh, he goes into I think it's an
African nation where there's like an uprising where they're trying
to hill you know, diplomats on the ground there, and
they make a point of like they one of the
people they're saving, uh, is counting on the Americans to
come through and save them. And like they call the

(32:12):
American consulate and it's closed, Like that's like a big platform.
So like everyone in China was like fuck yeah, they're
like super excited about this. Um I hophen they get
to the American consulate in its clothes, like they're ringing
the phone and you cut inside of and all this
was just like a black dude with headphones one I

(32:35):
need to get it. He's just like whistling to him. Um.
Well that's interesting because like also China has been like
they've been way more active in Africa than the U
S to like investing building infrastructure, like you know, China
is definitely they know that America is asleep at the
wheel and now is a better time than ever to

(32:57):
uh kind of re established, not rested, but fully established
themselves as like a leader, because that's already kind of happening,
especially with like they're they're being like somehow the leaders
on climate change and other ship too, like oh yeah,
we've we've sort of I don't know, abandon the throne
right and there. Because they're smart and diplomatic about things.
They're not like openly coming out and being like ha ha,

(33:19):
fuck you America, like you're you're sucking up. They're just
quietly like taking over power and then behind closed doors.
This article says they're like acknowledging like China is now
the new monolithic power um. But this was also being
predicted by like economists since like the eighties, right, like
you know, like that by this time that like China
would be the world's biggest power. It's still pretty lopsided

(33:42):
when you look at like the size of the economy,
America is still way bigger. And this is speeding up
a shift that people were seeing happening, right, Um, I
Like I had always read that that China was eventually
going to take over and it was inevitable. But when
you actually they look at the demographics. The reason China

(34:02):
is having this like huge juggernaut economy is because of
the one child policy, and like basically the way their
demographics stack out is that they have like a great
what's called dependency ratio where uh, they have way more
working age people than they have retired and like babies,
and that's usually helps uh an economy. Like that's almost

(34:25):
a single indicator that you can see how successful a
nation's economy is. Not that great, it was great for
a number of years because the baby boom was moving
from eighteen to sixty five, So the baby boom was
moving through working age. And when you have a huge,
like glut of people who are working through that age,

(34:46):
you're going to have a lot of economic success. The
Chinese are just coming to the end of having the
people who were the parents of the one child generation
going through that stage, so they had like an artificially
really strong dependency ratio. But now they're coming into the
part where the working age people are the one child generation,

(35:07):
so they're going to have an artificially low, like an
artificially bad defends. So it could go either way. But
this is certainly not helping. And I don't know what
with the North Korea stuff, it just seems like America's
standing in the world like a there there's been a
war of tweets that we were referring to earlier with

(35:27):
the button thing, but um, you know, it just seems
so clear now that uh, you know, people were always
like Trump's plant chess and everyone else's plant checker, man,
if you're on some certain subreddits. But so, Kim jongoon
is driving a wedge between South Korea and the US

(35:49):
by like opening up relations and like opening up communication
with between North Korea and South Korea, and Trump is
responding to that by like bragging about the size of
his button, like how much is button works? Because I know,
like with like North Korea, they're looking at it like, yo,
if we can get America out of the picture, then
we can just figure out our own reunification thing. I

(36:11):
know Kim Jong una his mind thinks if America's out
of the picture that he can somehow unite both Koreas
and somehow Pyong Yang can rule over both, which is
a bit of a long shot, but at the very least,
I think South Koreans also see a way of like
having like a federation while keeping their like total unification
agenda at bay. A lot of our stick with like
our carrot and stick with North Korea is like sanction based,

(36:33):
and sanctions only work if you can get everybody else
in the world to agree to like withhold and so
if he's you know, striking up a relationship with South
Korea and you know, having a strong relationship with China,
the then America is not going to have any ability
to negotiate. Yeah, and we've I think as a country,
we have a track record of showing like we really

(36:54):
don't do ship when North Korea acts up, like they
took the USS play below when didn't do it, and
all we did, all we do now, just like sanctions
at China undermines who knows. I think maybe that's why
they may look at Trump a bit differently because he's
just so erratic. But if you look at sort of
like the the history of like you know, what the
U S responses to like North Korean provocations it's typically

(37:15):
just sort of sanctions that can be worked around or undermined. Yeah,
and this is kind of part of an overall trend
where I don't know, I've been struggling with this thing
where I worry I'm underestimating Trump because I did during
the election, But I don't know. And you still see that,
like in the comment sections of an article where Trump
does something stupid, if it's not like on the New

(37:36):
York Times, if it's a place where you know there
are right wing people, or Trump's like made his career
off of like people underestimating him, and you know, uh,
just assuming that he has like a long game that
he's playing. Uh, And I don't know. There's an article
about the sixty eight election and how you know America

(37:57):
has a long history of over reading election results, and
you know, we just like really focus in on elections
as being these hugely significant things. And I don't know,
I think I think that might be what I'm doing.
And when you look at there's a political article called
Donald Trump's Year of Living Dangerously where they just talk
about how basically everybody on his staff is just like

(38:21):
China sort of give him the benefit of the doubt.
At first and now are just sort of taken aback
and are like finding ways to you know, work around
him and keep him isolated from any really consequential decisions. So, uh,
it seems like the only people who are still left
in the camp of just let's see where he's gone

(38:43):
with this. He probably has a plan, are you know,
his supporters and even the people who like work with
him and for him are just like, all right, let's
find a way to babyproof this house. Who is tweeting
someone did it? Oh? Tom Arnold tweeted yesterday that they
should just make a fake White House set and gaslight
him into thinking he's the president still just like let

(39:05):
him existed like this fake as reality show. So we
were talking about this before. We were saying we might
get him to step down if we just like made
like a huge statue monument of him, like hell, a
buff like the big as penis big as dig like
with like long ass hair, yeah, with like a bunch

(39:27):
of girls like hanging off of it, and they're all
like and they move like they swing on it. Like
he might be like, Okay, I'll step down, but I've
got what I needed. I got what I needed. I
got what I wanted. I'm the King of America. I've
got to step down. You know. Maybe that's all they
need to do is make a fake ass crown and
be like, hey, actually we upgrade you the king of America,
so you know you can just chill now and play

(39:48):
golf because you're the king. Something about this Thames fishy,
But I like the crown up. I'm just trying to
think of what girls should be on that statue. I'm
thinking christ and Stewart because he had that like big
run where he was like, you know, worried about her
and Robert Patton relationship. So he clearly has like a
weird uh or maybe he we need Robert Pattison in

(40:10):
a wig on there, because he like clearly had way
too much tied up in that relationship that we all did.
You know, we all did, Right, We're all we're all
living and dying with with the brakes of that. All right,
let's take a quick break. We'll be right back with
the pop culture round up. And we're back. Uh, We're

(40:37):
gonna do a quick pop culture round up about what
what's coming up in two thousand eighteen. We're talking about
Jordan's During the break, do you guys have anything to
say about Jordan's the shoe the shoe game. I mean,
there's always gonna be new shoes coming out, but I
think the real stuff is the music. That music Kange
is in the lab album called Turbo Graphic sixteen or something.

(40:57):
I don't know. Man, I stopped paying attention to like
his like placeholder album titles when like Life Pablo had
like it was like swish and then it was like
something that's right. Yeah, yeah, so we'll see, I think.
But when we were talking about this yesterday, like do
you think because obviously Life Apollo was made at like
peak insanity Kanye West, and I feel like if this

(41:20):
was made in his like recovery period, is it going
to be the same is not the same energy? Like
what what? I don't know. I don't know. We'll see
what happens. Like Pablo started out like why like when
it was swish, he had like those uh sort of
love songs to his wife and his daughter that were like,
you know, kind of pretty but not really like good songs,

(41:40):
and the one with Paul McCartney and it was pretty wet. Um,
So I don't know that seems like he was too
it seemed like he was too happy to make good
music at that point. Uh. So, I don't know, Like
now that he's in recovery and no longer on drugs, uh,
I don't know, or maybe not drug but he was.
He was up for like a month in or a

(42:02):
month straight. We don't know why, we don't know how.
But then he's got to recovery. Got fat, Yeah, and
they're like, yeah, just sleep a little bit, right, Yeah, Yeah,
he's in a period of recovery. I don't Yeah, I
definitely don't know if it's drug use or whatever. From
just like his insane schedule when he was making Pablo
and then doing the Pablo tour and you know, releasing

(42:25):
his fashion line. He seems like he took a took
a breather, And I don't know has he ever taken
a breather before? This is this is kind of new territory.
He always kind of ebb and flows with him. You know,
he's he's like so in your face for a long
time and then he fades to the back and then
it comes back. Like I personally love Pablo, and that
was like at the peak of his like manic nous.

(42:46):
So I don't I don't know. What do you guys think?
What's your favorite Kanye album? Favorite Kanye album? I had
college to drop out A CD I listened to that
was my plane CD because I didn't really listen. I
didn't really walk around with a CD play in two
thousand three because it was they were a little late
at that point. Um, but my mom was like, you

(43:07):
don't even know, damn my pie. But yeah, that was
my playing CD anytime I traveled. I listened to that
all the way through. I really enjoyed that. But I
think Late Registration is probably my favorite. Later Registration is
the second one, right, Yeah, it's like diamonds are forever
and yeah, but which one was drive Slow Graduation? Yeah, okay, Yeah,
I really enjoyed that one. Graduation was also very good.

(43:29):
That one came out. That was my freshman year of
college and we really bumped that in Ohio. Not the
Wilberforce University. That is a very uh like controversial one.
I I like basically all of them, but like some
people hate Graduation like I've definitely I just heartbreak favorite.
I've heard people say it's their favorite and then people
who like I think it's is the more divisive one

(43:52):
like that. Really some people I don't know why. I like,
I really enjoyed Robot Cop. That's als fun on that,
I really they enjoyed they I mean they played the
ship out of in the night. He has like a
couple of great pop songs on that not even like
yeah they're not like but yeah, we'll see. But also
I think, like, who else Drake? There's been a lot

(44:13):
of weirds like Drake snippets sleeking that what he has.
Drake is my guy because yeah, Drake Lebron in the
music world, Uh no, my my favorite. Well you know what, Drake, No,
Drake is not my Lebron because my Lebron Shack was
my favorite player growing up. Then Lebron came out and
I was like, oh, this is my guy. So I

(44:35):
would say if like Shock is to Andre three thousand
for me and Lebron is uh yeah, I guess it
gotta be Drake. Yeah, I think d Drake is no Ken,
Drake Kendrick is my new favorite, like guy, like, but
I love Drake's music. Yeah, yeah, he makes good you know,

(44:56):
he makes fun party music. My top five is weird
though your top five parts? Yeah, so I definitely got
Andre Kendrick Drake juvenile and I don't even know, I
can't remember was unexpected after those first Yeah, Juvie is
my boy? Yeah way back, I got that fire that Oscar? Yeah,

(45:17):
how did play? You want that? Oscar? Maya? Who else? Oh?
Two yards has another? I really like twn yards, uh
because like I think Merrill is like asane creator no
water on the water Fountain. Yeah, I think you know,
she's just a She's a beast on that looping pedal
and just like a very talented musician. So that would
be a dope album to come out to. Vampire Weekend's

(45:38):
got an album coming out, so you know, us white
people are excited about that. Okay, okay, But also, I
mean more importantly, like the real sequel that everyone's talking about,
Bright Too is happening. Did you see? It was so
bad that I had to finish it just from the
ads and that damn music video where the music video

(46:01):
is absurd when they hand machine gun Kelly that play
at the cookout, thank you and yo, and then the
fun is this? Eating a fucking fried chicken drumstick was
like the first bite he takes, Like chicken chickens in
my mouth, we all the same or whatever you're talking about.
Don't know. I actually like m g K. Like I
like him, but that video was trash. Also, nothing about

(46:22):
the ads. And I'm still, for the life of me
trying to figure out how they got will Smith. They
must have threw a billion dollars. I think Netflix is
gonna change his name to Fresh Princes next year because
they how did you get him to be in this movie? Right? Right? Right?
I think? I mean. Also, like, they just came out
with some of the stats and they said, like eleven
million people watched Bright when it came out, So that's

(46:43):
pretty significant. I guess even if people did like hate
watch it, but that's wild that even eleven million people
while their racial allegory and that ship is fucking it's insane,
it's racist. The allegory is terrible. Uh they did let
the writer Max Landis go, uh some would I think

(47:05):
it's because uh it was a terrible script. Put Apparently
there were sexual assault allegations coming out about him, and
there's uh suggestions that there's like a big cover up
campaign involving his dad and just all sorts of problematic things.
So uh yeah, I wasn't even I had heard that
he was like a really shitty guy, but I didn't

(47:27):
know there were public allegations uh about him. So it's
good to see that people are kind of I want
to read you, guys. And excerpt from a Facebook message
that was being passed around on Twitter from Max Landis,
and he says something very funny in it. He says, uh,
he's talking about one of his friends that he's cutting off.
He's cutting off a friend in this message, and that

(47:47):
friend that got cut off posted it. They goes keep
in my antiku has in the past been nothing but
very very route to both me and my friends. I
know that you enjoy him for your own reasons, but
I did not like him. And if he's sitting on
the couch talking to my ex girl friend who's already
being a prat to me, I think he means brat
because I won't kiss her, then yes, there's a strong
chance that the Bacardi hurricanes and smarting off strawberries will

(48:10):
have a nigga unloading on his skinny ass. He said
that in a message Max Landis, turn a flip in
my bed. Alright, Max Landis, don't let us catch you
in the street. Money I think hold on, like read
that how he said it. The Bacardi hurricanes have on
the nigga's like unloading on the niggas as he meant

(48:32):
that in a g way. Yeah like that. Ain't you
know this? Yeah that I'll be talking to you very
much in the future or ever game. But I'm going
to be vibratly aware of the fact that I do
not dislike you beyond these recent actions. Wow, he's a
he's a weird cat. We had to kick him out
of the Cracked forums uh many years ago. So we know.

(48:54):
There's also apparently a very terrible interview. Super producer Ana
Hosie is letting us know there's a terrible interview Max
Landis did about sex. Uh. They're coming for him right now,
as you can hear the sirens in the background sending
the fire brigade. But uh yeah, so we'll we'll talk
about this further, probably because it seems like there's a
lot more of the story. Um. But also, uh, he

(49:18):
wrote a terrible, terrible script. Uh. There a racial allegory
that is among the most racist, misguided things that's ever
been put to film. So uh, fuck Max Landis, I
guess uh and we're gonna talk about the movies coming up,
and we're out of time, so we're gonna talk about
that tomorrow. Uh, Carl, it's been a goddamn pleasure having

(49:39):
you listen to Culture Kings, which is coming out. When
up and gave me a podcast episode zero drop today, apparently,
don't listen to it. Don't listen to it, whatever you do,
whatever you do, don't listen to it. An episode zero
is like a preview episode, right, Uh, it's a it's
a preview episode. Uh that animated me do fourteen times. Um,

(50:03):
don't listen to it, but if you must, if you must,
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show we're putting out as part of our like comedy
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(50:25):
And yeah, that was a terrible blurb. Look, I mean,
I'll say this to you, guys. Don't be taking what
we say as serious as you take what Miles and
Jack say, because we don't be reading. I've been sitting
here when I do this, I mean when I do
this show. This is second time y'all had me, and
I'm very grateful for it. And I just want to say,

(50:46):
these dudes are smart. Man, I'm not like them. The
last thing I read was the autobiography of Gucci Man's
My Favorite is my new favorite novel of my favorite novel.
Everything is only novel I've read. Uh, And I'll just
be talking shit, but some of y'all may relate to that. Yeah,
I think everyone does. Everyone does. Uh. Friday is my birthday. Hey,

(51:06):
happy birthday, Carl. I'm gonna be old as dirt nine.
Yeah so and uh, I a girlfriend live U s
a girlfriend, a girlfriend trying to get married? Where where
can people follow you? On Twitter? At damn It Carl
d A M M I T C A R L
Off Things Social Follow me on Twitter for a bunch

(51:27):
of ratchet bullshit I retweet and following on Instagram if
you want that Oscar by Miles. Where can people follow you?
You can follow me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles
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(52:11):
not making it up. And that's gonna do it for today.
But before we go, we have a song recommendation from Carl,
and I want to remind you guys to get on
Apple Podcasts and rate and review us. We're really appreciating it.
We are going to read your reviews and if you

(52:33):
post a funny one screen cap it or tweeted at us,
and we will read it on air and shout you out.
But Carl, let's let's get a song recommendation from you.
I'm gonna do this like a radio. Hi, ladies and gentlemen.
Right now, it's the new year. Happy twenty eight day.
I hope everybody is blessed this year. I got a

(52:53):
song recommendation for you. Earlier in the show, I was
talking about my boy young thug who might be taking
the fifth spot on My top if that fact check required.
Asterix by that Uh. This is a song he did
with an English musical producer named Jamie x X. In
its call, I Know There's gonna be good time. That
ship is dopey samples a great like gospel song from
the nineteen fifties. Uh is a really dope song. It's

(53:17):
featuring Young Doug and Popcon and it's dope, and it's
from three years ago. But we're making at the anthem
of this year because I know there's gonna be good
times in So check that out. I know there's gonna
be good times. By Jamie XX featuring Young Doug in
podcast Running the Money, I'm good time. There's gonna be

(53:53):
some good time. When we used to pull up and
live and fight that that hood time. Nobody used to
go on that. I don't know about that one time,
been walking up trip sin get that which time. I
don't make time, I don't waste time. I don't have face.
She gap she's gonna get on time, but they did
and she goes she like sleezingle fash, She's be racing.

(54:17):
Shee my most like a presser, come to play on
my list. I lit already. My suggestion quiz is about
question on my my name coming clean. You can't back this,
she got that pussy thought. Watch I'll come to my life.
It's like a ray me. But be on the same bills.

(54:38):
My dads could never stay ship like one can't come
here come. I always take you back for him sing
with a bike, bud get a light dry, What did

(55:01):
you know? I'm all right? And that was it like
stroll up having a sucking doodle that my mother fucking wanted.
I didn't do you and and I'm coming in like cool, cool, look,
I would have a very good time. I want god.
I hit up us out a little short. She she

(55:23):
like calla running around? Where is my phone? Ever? Say? Hoodie?
I want you to back sit too, even in the
summer time, me and the shout a cut a horse,
I swu out to you the st baby curl sit
it down. You not know like rush, I don't want
my teeth. Do I want to control you? Black food? Do?

(55:44):
I said it to me? Free, cold and blue? Every
time I have a good time to do a bike
bine god light, run to be good, be good. Who's

(56:10):
time is out time. It's a man's a man about
the money going out. I'm just trying to junk. Drink

(56:42):
to junk each other. Guys drinking sad time to time.

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