Kim K Can Close Her Kimono, Mueller To Open His? 6.27.19

In episode 422, Jack and special guest host super producer Nick Stumpf are joined by Creature Feature podcast host Katie Goldin to discuss the controversial name for Kim Kardashians new shape wear, Trump making a joke about McCain's death, Robert Mueller planning to testify before the House Judiciary and Intelligence committees, Tucker Carlson agreeing with Elizabeth Warren's 'economic patriotism' plan, Charmin's Forever Roll toilet paper roll, and more!

FOOTNOTES:

1. Kim Kardashian's Kimono lingerie line sparks Japanese anger

2. Trump’s bizarre attack on McCain lowlights raucous speech to evangelical group

3. Impeachment backers say Mueller's testimony could be a game-changer

4. Tucker Carlson: Elizabeth Warren's "Economic Patriotism" Plan "Sounds Like Donald Trump At His Best"

5. Millennials Are Finally Getting The Giant Roll Of Toilet Paper They Deserve

6. WATCH: Cate Le Bon - Home to You (Official Video)

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season eighty eight, episode
four up Their Daily Sight Geast, a production of My
Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take a
deep die into America's sharing consciousness and say, officially off
the top, hey, fuck Coke Industries and funck Fox News.
It's Thursday, June two thousand nineteen. My name's Jack O'Brien.

(00:21):
A K. I won't deny it. I am Jack O'Brien.
You don't want to fuck with me? Got the pot
hosting wheel Miles G. But they can't funk with t
d Z. Yeah, that's courtesy of Christy Yamagucci Man, and
I am thrilled to be joined by today's acting co host,

(00:41):
Mr next Storm. He's stomped. He's stomped. He's stomped. He's
in my head That is courtesy Jack Uh stump, He's stump,
he's in my headphones. Uh that's right. He's coming right
at you, ladies. Gentleman Nick, it's great to have you

(01:02):
on this side of the glass. This is not what
I expected you to look like, but yeah, good. Nonetheless,
and we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat
by another podcaster here who the two of us have
worked with the very talented and hilarious Katie Golden. Yep,

(01:25):
it's yeah, good one. How's it going, Katie? Pretty darn good. Yeah,
you're the host of a show, Creature Future. I'm told
we've been on my show? Are not? KOI? I was
just very drunk when I was But yeah, like the
liquor up, that's true. Yeah, you can't talk about nature

(01:50):
without a couple of drinks in you, you know. Yeah, Well, Katie,
we're gonna get to know you a little bit better
in a moment, but first we're going to tell our
listeners a few of the things we're talking about, Like
that Kim kardash And just trademarked the word kimono for
her new line of shapewear. We're gonna talk about that.
I don't see why anyone would have a problem with that,
but we'll just check in with it just in case. Uh.

(02:13):
Sharman has put out a forever roll of toilet paper. Um,
so that's good for all of us. I think Uh
Trump just said he's glad John McCain is dead and
he hopes he rots in hell. Uh not in those
words exactly. Mueller is going to testify. We're getting excited
about that. We're gonna check in with what the Republicans

(02:35):
are thinking about the democratic field, what some Republican strategists
are thinking, and then what one Mr Tucker Carlson thinks
of one of the candidates. And just real quick, wanted
to say that we are going to be covering last
night's and tonight's democratic debates on tomorrow's episode. So if

(02:55):
you tuned in for that, uh, turn it off. I
don't want to expect any sort of insight into anything
political from these two dummies. Sorry, I guess. But first, Katie,
we like to ask our guess, what is something from
your search history that's revealing about who you are? Probably, um,

(03:16):
wolverine frog, Harry, question mark, I know exactly what you're
talking about Google. Yeah, other other things like, um, I'm
a very curious person. Um there's like dog bladder stones,
big pictures, pictures of big ones. Um, you just put

(03:38):
in pictures of big ones unto your Google. Um, well
that that auto filled for me. Um pictures of Yeah,
we know, Katie, pictures of big ones, pictures of big ones. Uh.
So wait, the hairy wolverine frog is that the one
that breaks its bone through its arm. Yes. Actually just

(03:59):
talked to Sort Boo about that on the latest episode
of Creature Feature, which you can listen to. I'm assuming
if you're listening to this, you have the capacity to
listen to that one too. Yeah. I'm not trying to
be passive aggressive about it and not being like, you know, like, hey,
like if you can listen to this, I mean, couldn't
you just couldn't you just listen to um? But yeah,

(04:23):
it's about it's a frog who will give itself compound
fractures to use his wolverine claws, and they also have
weird skin hairs. It's really cool. I won't say anymore
about it. You'll just have to listen to that Dangle podcast,
won't you. So even if I asked you more questions
about it, you just refuse, uh bold move. What is

(04:45):
something you say is underrated? So? Uh, there's this thing
that I've known about for quite a while called hydrochloidal
band aids, and they are great. I love them for blisters,
for pimples. Uh, they're just recently I've seen them being
marketed as like these kind of fruit fruit things on

(05:06):
Amazon where it's like, oh, these incredible new like blemish
stopping technology. It's like, no, you can just go to
CVS and get much cheaper ones. They're um and big
like bigger ones and they're great, Like I get my
my feet are very sensitive to getting just awful horrible yes,

(05:27):
now big old blisters and so um. I just wanted
the people to know that you don't have to spend
a bunch of money on like luxury hydrocloidal band aids.
They already exist in the store. What do they look like? What?
What would I looks like a box of band aids,
but it says that they're hydrocloidal on the box. They'll

(05:48):
they'll they'll be with like the other band aids. But
they do look they're weird because they're kind of gross
because like if you put it on some sort of
weeping wound, they'll like absorb the fluids like a spy engine.
Then like you pull it off and it just like,
excuse me, Nick is vomiting violently into a trash. I

(06:09):
don't know why. I think I just chose this one
because I like saw some ad for like these things.
It's like, no, those already exist, and I just don't listen.
I'm doing my part. You don't go and like buy
some kind of fancy high end beauty products, right, you
could get for three dollars in a library card. H
my right, good hunting anyone else? So it is it

(06:32):
the little band aids for like corns and stuff like that. Okay, yeah, yeah,
yeah they look you can put that on acne and
it treats the acne. I mean, it really depends. I
don't want to say. It depends on your skin type.
Some people are sensitive to adhesive. I am certainly that
kind of person to have to be careful you see acne.
But if you you know, don't pick up your acne.
But if like you have like a blemish, Okay, we're

(06:56):
adults here, we're adults to acne. Here, My corns have acne.
Oh yeah, well then I mean you got to lose
the foot. Yeah, there's no saving that foot. Um. Yeah,
you just put them on and what they do is
they just like they helped dry out the blemish. So yeah,

(07:16):
it's real nasty. Cool. That's a that's a good hack.
But it's also good for like if you get like
a like I've used them on paper cuts where it's
really hard to kind of you know, just like getting
a regular band aid, when you put it on your hand,
it gets all wet and there's nothing there's no worse.
Seeing the feeling of a wet band aid on your

(07:43):
finger after washing the dishes is maybe the worst thing
that has ever happened to me. And I've had a
rough life. Things are good. Well, Katie, what is something
you think is overrated? This was a lot easier for
me to answer, which says a lot about me. But uh,
have an internet troll? Can I just read you a

(08:04):
list of choices that I wrote down, and I can
select which one you want me to talk about. I
wrote down Thomas Friedman, centrists, horseshoe theory, and then French tuck.
I don't know what the French tuck is, so it's
probably not worth knowing. So we're gonna put that one out.
Horseshoe theory, I'm assuming is some sort of strategy for

(08:26):
playing the game of horse shoes. And so let's go
as centrists. Why are centrists underrated? Pick aside? Come on,
come on, no, I just like I'm sort of irritated
by like it's it's specifically about the current dialogue in
the country where it's like people want a sensible centrist

(08:49):
candidates like, no, they absolutely don't. Have you seen the
world right now? Have you seen like the current Dare
I say it the Zeitgeist of the day. That's actually
just an automated feature and we have put in anytime
you guys, you've guys have gotten a soundboards since I've

(09:09):
been here, Dan, I just said zeitgeist. You have to
if you're playing with the thing. Yeah, thank you, very
slow motion. Uh yeah, okay, that's what I thought about centrist.
But let me tell you about French tuch. Hang on French.
I learned about this on the new The Queer Eye Show,
which is great, great show, but and they do the

(09:31):
French tuck on this show and it looks really good.
It's like, oh, you can tuck your shirt and partially
and it looks nice and fashionable, and I'm like, oh great,
they look so good. I try it. It always makes
me look so dumb. I cannot do it without looking
like a total idiot who like got half dressed and
like walked out the door and oh sorry. A French

(09:52):
tuch is when you partially tuck in your shirt front,
just the front, and then you kind of like tuck it, yeah,
rakishly tuck it. Then you kind of like half pull
it out and just like let it drape around you.
And somehow on the show they do it in a
way it's like that looks great. If you try it
at home, you will look so fucking stupid. Stylists love

(10:14):
to do that, Yeah, they do, and somehow when they
do it looks great. But then I do it on
myself and it's just like, I look, I just look
like I looked like I was like went to the
bathroom and was wiping and then got my shirt stuck
in my butt or something, and I went out of
the bathroom and I was like, well, are you choosing
that specific to it? In hartially tucker in the back

(10:34):
in the middle of it and like violently your shirts Like, um,
all right, that's good to know. And horseshoe theory, was
that right? That it's a it's measuring the wind speed,
velocity of which way your horseshoes are going. Now you

(10:56):
gotta take it to the horse. You know you got
you gotta take it to your opponent A very offensive mind.
This is Thomas Freedman who came up with this theory.
No no, these are all unrelated. I just I hate
a lot of mad about don't even get her started
on Thomas start the clock problem. Thomas Freemans he uses

(11:17):
mixed metaphors anyways. Yeah, yeah, he's a writer for The
New York Times. Oh, I know, he uses a mixed
metaphors a lot. He like called. He's like saying he
was talking about something where you got on an airplane
is like a you know, we were like a herd
of carnivores hunting for a seasons, Like, carnivores don't form heard.
You think mix your metaphors like that. Yeah, I would

(11:40):
have caught that too. Yeah wait no they never Oh yeah,
I guess they don't know, because that's predators aren't heard.
If you want, if you could say a pride of lions,
but I wouldn't say, yeah, okay, pack a pack pack
is a good term. But no. Thomas Freedman. I one
of the first books I ever list in two on

(12:00):
tape was The World is Flat. It is. He says
the world is flat like every sentence of that book.
He's like, the reason the world is flat is it's
one of the most poorly written books I've ever I hated.
I hate to put all Freeman on blast here, but
like he is able to write the most words without

(12:23):
actually saying anything of anyone I've ever seen. What are
his qualifications? I don't know. I don't know, I don't know.
I mean, I think he must have a thing. Is
It must be that he had some interesting articles, some
interesting things to say early in his career, and then
they just kept one of them to keep going. But

(12:44):
he ran out of material. But they're like, we need
a new article. And he strikes me as like the
equivalent of like a tenured professor who just doesn't need
to do ship. He's he's the guy who wrote the
opinion piece about MBS being like a cool dude who
fresh ideas. And he's like, hey, don't take it from me,

(13:05):
but this guy is cool kids. He loves he loves
talking about like he just has a constant boner for
a technological advancement where he's like, the world is now
flat because if iPods and Twitter is going to solve
the Middle East, right, And he was talking about like
the zoom ees over in India, this new generation of
kids zoom around and or zippies. I forget to be

(13:27):
talking about He's like, guys, trust me, five years from now,
you will be laughing that you didn't know what I
was talking about when I said the Zippies from India. Okay,
And it's like this book came out in two thousand
and four. Its like none of this ship caught on. Man,
he's the worst. He's one of the only Like normally
I would stop reading immediately, but this was like a

(13:50):
cross country trip my wife and I were on, and
this was like back when you actually like had books
on tape and so like we had like I forget,
but it was like eight CDs and so we just
had to grind through this terrible book the whole way. Uh.
And that was my ex wife. We're not together anymore
because of that experience. What is a myth? What's something

(14:12):
people think is true you know to be false. Well,
I actually just did this because I was researching an article. Um,
but there's not really such a thing as hypoallergenic dogs. Um.
There's low shedding dogs. Um. And this is actually kind
of news to me. I thought that hypoo hypoallergenic dogs
actually would produce less vander but I don't think that's

(14:36):
actually the case. So dogs who are considered hypoallergenic just
either don't shed or shed less. I mean all dogs
shed to some extent, but like they shed less. And
how that's supposed to help with allergies is that dander
which contains a protein which is what people are actually
allergic to it. So this protein produced in dogs skin,

(14:58):
it's in their saliva that will stick to the hair
and then get around. Um, and that could potentially trigger allergies.
But I read a study and they found that homes
in which they had hypoallergenic dogs actually had the same
amount of detectible allergens like when they studied it. But
they didn't say, like, oh, that means that hypoallergenic dogs

(15:22):
don't help. It just means that there's still the allergy around.
But it's possible that the fur getting everywhere, like getting
stuck to you could trigger your allergies, right, So that
that maybe why? Um, so I don't actually know. Um,
Like I mean, I feel I feel like maybe it's
like if you have mild allergies, it's probably helpful. Right

(15:42):
now you came in today, you're caked in dog first. Yeah,
and now I'm just but the yeah, I mean that.
That totally makes sense to me. And I've only ever
heard people talk about other dogs like theoretically, like, oh
that dog hypoallergenic, like I'm allergic to dogs. Um. I

(16:03):
I never believe people when they say they're allergic to stuff.
I've just always call their bluff. Something's got like a
nut allergy in their faces. Purple h walk it off,
walk it off. Indeed, let's talk about Kim Kardashian. You guys,
she trademarked a few weeks ago the word kimono. Uh,

(16:23):
and she just revealed why it's her new line of shapewear.
She should have trademarked the word shapewear. Yeah. Uh, Nikes
five steps ahead of her on that one. But uh,
first time hearing of it. Really. Yeah, I've never heard
the words shapewear. Before you wear your clothes to make

(16:43):
your figure look that good? Spanks okay, yeahs spanks to shapewear.
But yeah, where you. I think the problem most people
are having with this is that she is spelling it
exactly the same way that in English people that the
word kimono is spelled in English. It's like a traditional,

(17:05):
you know, Japanese form of clothing. We'll get Miles his
thoughts on this when he gets back, but for now,
it's still fucked up, so we wanted to call it out.
But yeah, so, I mean it's you know, cultural appropriation
in a really poorly thought thru way, well in the
worst way, right, because you're literally it's like one other,

(17:28):
like say, you know it's I I certainly can't necessarily
make a determination on this because I am full disclosure,
I'm white, but I feel like, uh, you know, if
you're if you're going to culturally appropriate something, don't literally
steal it. So everybody else can't use that word, right, Yeah,

(17:51):
Like most people under the age of eighteen now are
confused when they hear the word kimono because Kim Kardashian
is a big deal to people under eighteen. I'm hip,
I'm up on the kids, but yeah, I mean it's
generally she created a homophone overnight that is going to
confuse people when it comes to that term. Now because

(18:12):
she's like trademark. Does that mean like other people can't
sell stuff called kimonos? Yeah? Now I would if I
were her, pr uh, I would advise her not to
start suing every Japanese person who uses the word kimono.
That would probably not be a good idea, but yeah,
I mean people are just I don't I don't think
that's the concern that people won't be able to do it.

(18:34):
I think the best description I've read of it was, uh,
somebody just saying it dilutes the culture a little bit,
Like it's not like outright attack that is making people
feel like active pain in the moment, but it just
kind of cheapens the culture and dilutes a word that
is important to the culture, and it's just a a

(18:56):
kind of thoughtless, shitty thing to do, right. I mean
think that there can be things like cultural appropriation and
you know, racism where it's not like it's it doesn't
have to be an earth shattering thing, but to still
just feel crappy and to be bad, you know, people complain.
They're not saying that that she's literally committing a war crime.

(19:19):
They're saying that she's doing something that's kind of shitty
and not very respectful. But what else are you gonna
call it? What could you call it? M what else
could you possibly call it? On her name? I just
got that. Yeah, yeah, you're like, never mind, what a good.

(19:40):
What a great joke. But it's a definitely noticed at
a young Oh and then the trending hashtag on Twitter
was kim oh no oh god, that's good though. I mean, okay,
I understand years and years of you know, like cultural

(20:01):
sort of bias and the exotification of other cultures and
that's all bad. But think of the buns, you guys. Wow,
so good picture of I just found she's got her
cameros into her kimeras. What are those cos? Okay? Does what? Um? Yeah?

(20:25):
I saw some people suggesting other ideas for what she
should have called it, and they all made sense, but
they weren't as good as kimono. But there's not a
rule that says you have to put your name in
the product or the brand you're creating. That's where you're wrong. Yeah. Also,

(20:45):
but so it's shapewear, right, yes, I don't think so
kimonos do have that sash, which is I'm sort of
assuming that's kind of what she's hinting at. You know,
there's that sash that goes around and kind of she
is in the waist. But that's not called a kimono,
right that? Oh it's not I mean, yeah, I just well, no, no,

(21:09):
the whole thing is called but no, I'm pretty sure
this is just her knowing that Japan is cool, Japanese
culture is cool, very marketable, Yeah, very marketable right now,
So that was a joke. And uh, and that her

(21:29):
name is Kim and the word kimono has her name
in it, like that's a kimono equals clothes. And also
maybe she knew that this was going to happen and
she's you know, yeah, I mean ship probably. I haven't
there been accusations of that in the past with us,
Like you know, when people do those ridiculous things you
can't believe they're doing it, you know, like some incredibly

(21:51):
racist T shirt and like a target ad or something,
and somebody must have just this is like a super
cynical play for just clicks people to talk about. Yes,
here we are talking about and I mean, you know
who would know that better than somebody whose career started
with a sex tape. Yeah, I mean it's like, oh no,
my sex tape is out. Ye did I drop this

(22:14):
sex tape right directly into the inbox of of Uh yeah,
that's how the internet works, right. Um. Yeah, I'm trying
to think of better names. One of them would be
Kim Squeeze, like like like Kim che but Kim that's
a good one, right, Yeah, no, it's great. It's a

(22:37):
I bet. I feel like the only like the way
for her to dispel the notion that this was just
a cynical way to get clicks would be for her
to change it to Kim squeeze or change it, to
change it to something it needs to be changed. Um. Also,
kimono is I recently heard a business person be like, yeah,

(22:57):
we had a real open your kimono's moment? Are we
just open the kimonos? And like it's like, all right,
let's just let's just all open our kimonos and show
the table. Yeah yeah, it's like, what the hell does
that mean? It means like I'm not hiding anything open, Yeah,
like not hiding anything. But you know, I wish that
they wouldn't have like that sort of That's how else

(23:19):
are you going to describe? I don't know. What I
would do is like, let's have a real like sort
of just open up the butt cheeks, you know, spreads
basically spread the cheeks moment each other our in the
pinch that I like that way better spread the cheese.

(23:40):
But so kimono for me is already already has a
douchey business kind of connotation to it. Commotation to it, kimmotation,
kimmon notation. Right, we're gonna take a quick break so
Katie can stop rolling on the ground laughing from my
kimono notation. We'll be right back, and we're back. And yeah,

(24:18):
I did, I did. Probably the listeners were wondering that
very same thing. Why, like where was the bomb drop
after a common notation, and yeah, it's probably the buttons
probably stuck. Dan wouldn't confirm it, but we can all agree. Uh.
Let's talk about the fact that Donald Trump yesterday we
talked on yesterday's show about how cultural executives of media

(24:43):
executives are worried that we're going through a Trump slump,
and maybe Donald Trump is too, because he's uh saying
some wild ship and he might have pulled us Samuel L.
Jackson a time to kill in saying I'm glad John
McCain is dead and I hope he rots in hell.
Because so he was speaking about why he didn't kill Obamacare,

(25:04):
uh and pass like his much totally better version. Uh,
and he he said quote we needed sixty votes and
we had fifty one, and sometimes we had a hard
time with a couple people. Fortunately they're gone now, they've
gone on to greener pastures or perhaps far less green,
but they're gone. Very happy they're gone, which would seem

(25:28):
to be him saying that he is glad John McCain
is dead, and greener pastures evoking like the afterlife, and
then far less green evoking hell, and him being happy
that he's in hell. I mean, maybe it's like he's saying,
though the pastures are, uh, they're not green, but like
they're eco conscious because you can't waste water. So now

(25:51):
they're sort of like desert escaped pastures, so they're more
of a kind of taup and other like yeah, yeah, yeah,
resistant past Yeah, yeah, that's probably what I meant. Yeah, definitely,
But this is what he's he's very entertaining when he
wants to be, and just such a bad person and

(26:13):
totally oblivious to what a bad person he is and
unwilling to admit it. And well, you can see this tone.
I always think when you read quotes like this, you
can picture him doing this exact tone with like a
like at a cocktail party where he's wearing tuxedos and
be like, let's yeah, I talked to Donald Trump, like,
but it was pretty funny, Like we had this five
minute conversation and he's like a playground jerk off. That's

(26:35):
kind of funny to hang like see at a party. Yeah,
and that's the tone of all this kind of stuff.
And he's been doing it for fifty years and he's like, well,
I would have stopped now it's been going great. It's
like the Golden Parachute Monster Towne where it's like my
daddy was a criminal kind of ton of forests, Like, oh,
maybe maybe he should He's like in greener pastors now,
or or should I say hotter pastors? Right? Nobody laughs

(26:59):
because you're a billionaire in right exactly. Yeah, Like you're
so funny, please don't ruin my life. Yeah. It was
announced yesterday or two days ago that Robert Mueller is
going to testify publicly after there was a question whether
he would testify even privately for in front of Congress.
Now it seems like he's going to testify in a

(27:21):
public session in front of Congress, and yeah, I don't know.
During his press conference, he said he didn't want to testify,
and that his report is his testimony. And I think
people are under playing how important this could be to
have him say what's in the report in front of
a huge TV audience, because he was like, my report

(27:42):
is my testimony, so right, but nobody reads. I think
that's like the thing that seems to have been lost
on him is that a nobody reads and they're not
going to read your report and be that there. He
seemed to have assumed that there was going to be
similarly honorable people after him in the chain, Like he's like,
all I have to do is set this up in
the way that I know how, and the people similarly

(28:05):
capable people will see it and be like, Okay, this
is obviously what you meant. This is obviously the road
map to Congress. This is obviously what the intention of
this is. This man is guilty of all sorts of things. Here,
here's the evidence, you guys, take care of it. But
neither of those things are true. So now and you
know where we're at now, you just he needs to
be on TV on camera saying yes, if he was

(28:26):
not president, I would have prosecuted him. Yes, you know,
if we have a video of him saying that. Then
suddenly it's a different kind of thing. Potentially, maybe I'm
a little more cynicol I think that there's just not
going to be really a pants down moment. It's spread
your cheeks moment. We're not gonna have a right, I

(28:48):
think that. I just I don't. I think it's kind
of gonna be one of these things where it's like
it's like a bunch of little papercut kind of things
where it's like, yeah, he did this thing that's like
kind of you know, not explosively legal or like, you know,

(29:12):
just but I don't think there's gonna be a big reveal.
I mean, obviously there's not, because we do have access
to the report, but there's not. I don't know if
there's going to be something that really sort of shakes
people to their courts, like they it reveals anything about Trump.
We don't already know that he's a you know, he's
a corrupt person. And I'm sort of I'm always frustrated

(29:36):
with the whole, uh, the whole Molder report thing, because
I feel like if we had gone after him on
like the emoluments violations, that is so much more. I
guess specific to his administration that are so much more
flagrant and ridiculous than they have been. There would have
been potentially more of a pants down, balls out, but

(29:58):
she spread moment. Yeah, but they're still going after the
moment stuff though in different it's like working its way
through some court. But the I think that with the
a lot of the focus being on the Russia stuff,
which it doesn't seem like there's is, there's not as
strong as a case. Well yeah, but that's I think
that's what Nancy Blosi's whole point is, like, we have

(30:20):
much stronger cases in all these other lanes. So let's
not hang our hat on this mull Earth stuff because
we're going to get brick Wald in the Senate anyway. Yeah,
I mean, I mean, I think it's I mean, I
think it should just be common practice that for any
president they get investigated on everything they do and that
we hold them to a very high standard and that
we should be looking into um. So I'm not I'm

(30:42):
not I think that it's good to investigate, but I
do think it's I think there's just like desire I
think for there to be a moment where Muller gets
up there and says like, yeah, he sucked putting off
and when he got the video of it. Well, but
there's like things about it though that they're it's gonna happen. Sorry,
just real quick. I just want to make sure you're

(31:02):
going on the record saying you think that is what's
going to happen and that it's not going to be
a big deal. That's almost okay, Uh, Nick, where you saying, oh,
just that, I think in the problem with the Muller
report was just that it left certain things up to
interpretation and spin. From the both point the way he
put it, which is legally speaking, exactly how he had

(31:24):
to put it because he's hamstrung every which way by
the regulations of the Dress Department, but the fact that
he couldn't just say like things like yes if he
so explicitly if he was not a sitting president, any
other person, same charges this is, this is a list
of crimes, like to come out and just bark that out.
That's what that's the reason for the t And then

(31:44):
it's then allows Trump and people with less imagination to
be like, see, I'm not guilty, whereas you have him
on camera saying yes, if he's not president, he committed crimes.
The only reason I did not do this is because
I'm not allowed to by the rules of my personal job.
I mean maybe that I would certainly hope that people
would find that alarming. Um. I think that one of

(32:07):
the frustrating things with this report is there's this sort
of like trickle truth. I think people were expecting a
smoking gun of you know, Trump met with Russians to
plot the overthrow of the US, which you know, I
mean the practice of like contacting foreign countries to dig
up dirt. I think, I mean, like, that's not it's

(32:29):
not that unheard of, So it's like that's sort of
a it's And then so we get these kind of
little this trickle of information about like, oh, you know,
the cover up was probably worse than anything that we did,
and that's very alarming. But we get just slowly felt
little bits of information about it, and I don't think

(32:50):
that's really you know, it's not enough, and and you
know it's not I'm I think that I feel I mean,
I feel less conser earned about that whole, the whole,
that aspect of the investigation than I do about I mean,
the emoluments violations are so much more flagrant and unique

(33:10):
to as far as I know, to this president that
it's like I wish that because that, to me, would
have been more of a if we had, like from
the beginning gone like this is very bad, that would
have been more of a smoking gun, more of a
kind of on your dick moment, the old Yeah. I
wonder how much of the I I don't know, Like

(33:33):
I honestly don't know the answer to this, but the
fact that it was Russia being the focus so much
more than the moluments, I wonder how much of that
is just procedural things like well, this court takes longer
for cases to get prosecuted, and how much of it
was you had the entire uh you know, liberal media

(33:58):
establishment trying to exp lane how they got the election
so wrong, and so there was this kind of hope
that there was like some sort of conspiracy. I think
it's yeah, I think it's the latter mixed with a
little bit of red scare stuff, because I mean, you know,
obviously Russia's government is corrupt, as our many many governments.

(34:20):
But I think that the enticement of you know, it's
what was that movie read Dawn, Like it's we get
to live and read Dawn and there's something so sexy
about that for the media to go like like hey,
you know, remember like how like there was hours and
hours of news with coverage on what's her what's her name?
The redheaded woman? Who? Yeah, yeah, where It's just like

(34:44):
that's so it's a very alluring topic. I mean I
find it. I find it also very like enticing, like oh,
you know, sexy Russian spy, um, you know, and and
like sort of the um. Just it's such a strong
meme or trope in our culture of this idea of
like Russia getting in and screwing with the US. I

(35:04):
think that coupled with the fact that it made it
such that Democrats didn't have to take any responsibility for um,
you know, boning up the election potentially, I mean even
say you assume they didn't, and it's just like that
their platform was not popular or not left wing or

(35:25):
populist enough. That's also a scary kind of realization. So
just to be clear, you're saying that you think Trump
sucked off Putin, and that is going to say that
in the first sense. That's the point that you're not. Yeah,
And I mean, look, if they want to if they
want to suck each other off, it's kind of my business.

(35:45):
They're going to open and it's a real open meal.
I don't know. I'm I have Russian ancestry and I
don't even know what the stereo wing do. Not to
pay close attentions to Laurussia's fine, It's fine. I mean,

(36:08):
I am very much looking forward to his testimony. Uh,
not just because you think he's gonna say that and
I'm interested now, but because I just want to hear
in planning, Like everything with Mueller has been well because
of my duty and because of this position, I cannot
say this nice we just high fived. But you know,

(36:29):
I'm just looking forward to him saying and playing English,
like what was there? You know what, like if there's anything,
because it does seem like there are some pretty damning
things in the Mueller report, like when when you like
look at the obstruction stuff, the obstruction stuff, and also
it's just like there's a lot of weird ship. When

(36:51):
you said earlier, by the way, that it's not that
abnormal for candidates to go to foreign countries to look
for dirt. Who else has done that? I mean, I
think the Clinton campaign contacted was it uh, some kind
of Ukrainian intelligence and not not the government itself. It's
some kind of like thing. I'm i I'm probably gonna

(37:13):
get pounced on in d M because I don't actually
remember the specific thing. But I think there was also
a recent, um recent thing about how Obama talked to
Iran before he was elected about policy. So about that
open like moment where he was like, don't worry after
the election, will straighten the right, right, um, which you know,

(37:34):
that's different than taking actual intellient dirt on your opponent.
It's different, but it's all I mean that is to
me alarming, uh, you know, to discuss. Although I would
say that the Iran deal was a good thing, I
think that cooperation with Iran is that much is you
know in this in this specific case, it's like not
it's not something that I dislike. But on principle, I

(37:58):
don't think you should be discussing foreign policy before you're elected.
I think that's a very you know, a problematic thing
to do. So I think that contacting it's like it's
almost one of one of the forms of corruption that
I think seems to happen with enough frequency that it's like, well, right,
it's not that shocking that that somebody might accept a

(38:20):
little dirt from wherever they could get it. But but
what is different about this one is that they were
like at a at the highest state levels, at a
multifaceted campaign to mess with the election. It wasn't like,
you know, and in trying to get a specific candidate elected,
although I think that that's pretty common too. It would

(38:42):
be what would be uncommon, and I haven't seen the
smoking gun for this, would be if the Trump campaign
worked with the Russian government in a sort of quid
pro quote thing of like if you influence the election
in my favor, um, like explicitly made this agreement, like
you influence the election by going on Facebook and doing

(39:02):
your dumb memes like and in return, I'll do a
good thing for you. That would be extremely bad and
unusual that your amaliment's point, you don't know what his
business interests are. You know the Trump Tower Moscow and
don't like it, right, But I don't think there is.
It's been more of a thing of like, yeah, i'll
take dirt on like you know, we would potentially want
to take some dirt wherever you can get it, Like

(39:24):
you said, Um, but I don't think that there was,
and I don't think they ended up um actually like
that that meeting didn't really go through. Um. But I
think that the you know, the Russia kind of like
trying to influence the elections with propaganda, I mean like
that that's also a very common thing for well, but
in this one, they had the emails, the whole like

(39:45):
coordinated thing with hacking the DNC and releasing the emails
on in a timed manner and Roger like them teasing
it and knowing when it was going to happen and
like all that stuff is pretty like So now that
was what who were those emails between that was between
John Podest like all those they hacked the d n C,
John Podesta with Clinton's campaign manager, that right, and they Okay,

(40:06):
you're saying who hacked emails and then talked to the
Trump campaign, right, because it wasn't. It wasn't somebody in
Trump's inner orbit would be one of the arguments. But
it was Roger Stone, right, It was Roger Stone and
Roger Stone and then the who was the who had
contacted them from Russia? Because I don't think it was

(40:28):
wiki leaks, right, Yeah, there's a whole weird thing with
it's a goose afer. Is that, however you pronounced that?
Is the is the Russian Gucci Gucci for I don't know.
Then they actually did the hacking and then they released
it through wiki leaks somehow, and they may have done
that even to get around some of the legal stuff. Yeah,
I just don't know. I mean, like I would certainly

(40:50):
I think that is concerning. I don't know if there
was like a so it was it was Wiki leaks
working with Roger Stone, is what your thing? Well, Roger
Stone seemed to know about all these things before there
and the whole campaign. You know, there was just these
little teaser they would do, these teases and speeches. Got
a feeling on Monday something serious stuff about it. Sounds

(41:11):
like there's still some questions we have and I think
I think that there should for sure be investigated. Um,
open the kimono's moment and a real real thing, you know,
open your kimonos and show them your the whole moment. Yes,
spread them, spread them muller by um, we mean your
butt cheeks. We're going to take a quick break and wait, wait, wait,

(41:32):
more like fuller butt cheeks instead of Muller get it. Sorry, Okay,
we're going to take a break. Fuller Robert Fuller butt
cheeks right, and we're back. And an interesting clip that

(42:00):
you brought to our attention, Nick of Tucker Carlson, Katie,
here's Oh yeah, I made a joke out during the break,
I said, Tucker Carlson, We're like Tugger butt open. So
Tugger Carlson opened his show. So he occasionally will do

(42:22):
these monologues where you're like, wait, what show am I watching? Uh?
Is this the Tucker Carlson program that I tune into
every night around this time. No, but there are these
clips out there where he says things like there was
one monologue where he said America's ruling class are mercenaries.
He concluded with a demand for America to become a

(42:44):
fair country, a decent country, a cohesive country, a country
whose leaders don't accelerate the forces of change purely for
their own profit and amusement. Uh. And basically it was
like an anti he said. Republicans have considered it their
duty to make the world safe for banking while simultaneously
prosecuting evermore foreign wars, which seems like the sort of

(43:07):
thing you would hear from h Bernie bro or you
know somebody who is on the far left, but you know,
economic populism, like some of Trump's messaging during the sixteen
campaign was you can be on the right and on
the left and still be economic populist. It's just Trump
hasn't really followed through on that stuff in practice. So recently,

(43:31):
Tucker Carlson gave another one of these monologues that we're
gonna play a clip from where it's not what you
would expect from him. What would the world look like
now two and a half years later. Well, for starters,
Republicans in Congress would regularly be saying things like this quote.
I'm deeply grateful for the opportunities America has given me,

(43:53):
But the giant American corporations who control our economy don't
seem to feel the same way. They certainly don't act
like it. We can navigate the changes ahead if we
embrace economic patriotism and make American workers our highest priority,
rather than continuing to cater to the interests of companies
and people with no allegiance to America. End quote. Now,

(44:16):
let's say you regularly vote Republican, ask yourself. What part
of the statement you just heard did you disagree with?
Was there a single word that seemed wrong to you?
Probably not. Here's the depressing part. Nobody you voted for
said that or would ever say it. Republicans in Congress
can't promise to protect American industries. They wouldn't dare to

(44:40):
do that. It might violate some principle of Austrian economics.
It might make the Koch brothers mad, It might alienate
the libertarian ideologues who to this day fund most Republican campaigns.
So no, a Republican did not say that, sadly, Instead,
the words you just heard are from embrace yourself here,

(45:01):
Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, it's true bomb drop. Yeah,
that is from inside the Carlson Trump now that So, yeah,
that's interesting to hear him kind of complimenting Elizabeth Warren.
But you know, Nick, you you're pointing out that it's

(45:21):
not necessarily a credit to him so much as just
showing there are similarities between economic populism on the left
and the right. Right. Yeah, for sure. I mean definitely,
like Bernie Sanders almost got the nomination on that platform
and that and he I think the enthusiasm that he
inspired in the crowds that he drew were for similar

(45:43):
reasons on on this front to the reason that Donald
Trump drew those crowds. It's like, it's an idea of disenfranchisement.
Donald Trump played to it in the shittiest possible way,
in the most racist possible way. But the disenfranchisement is
the point. It's like every the people are, you know,
if you play that theme on the left, if you

(46:05):
play that theme more rest less, but in the racist way,
but more in the like just economics way, like Bernie Sanders.
That's right, that we're all being screwed, and we're being
screwed by specifically the people who have stolen all the
money and glommed at all, not by migrant children. It
doesn't turn out to have been by migrant by migrant children.
That does seem to be the key difference that I was.

(46:27):
I was like, man, maybe Tucker Carl oh wait no,
he thinks migrant children should be uh put in cages, right, yeah,
and then they're still in that weird that like who
knows what what that's about, but but there is I
think it's about not being able to view people who
are different from you and right, Yeah, there's just people
are just crazy. But there there is this this overlap

(46:49):
that's potentially encouraging for the left wing of the Democrats.
Is really at the point it's like if you can
if you get to that message and you stay on
that message, you will probably win. Yeah. That was something
we had an article where UM Republican strategists were talking
about like what they thought of the Democratic candidates, and

(47:09):
their take was all, like, it has nothing to do
with policy. It's all about how authentic the person comes across.
And I mean, I think that is an important factor.
But I really do think it does seem to me
that like there is strength in the message that like
you're getting screwed economically, Stu. I mean, you have two

(47:32):
candidates who if you if you make this argument that like,
oh I identity politics is what's sort of like, So
you have two candidates. You have Bernie Sanders and you
have Joe Biden. They're both old white dudes, they're both
kind of have I don't know if you'd call it
folksy charm, but some people might. Yeah, I know that's words,
but I don't I don't necessarily see the folksy charm,

(47:56):
but you know, Russian Russian folks is more like folksy
charm in the rush more it is more not dying
of of vodka. You know, that's dying of vodka. I
don't know, um perfectly generations removed, but um uh so

(48:20):
it's it's you know, they're they're similar in terms of
I guess like they're obviously their personalities are different, but
they're both like quote unquote down to earth old white
dudes telling it how it is. But Bernie Sanders platform
is way different from Joe Biden's, and so Bernie Sanders

(48:41):
fans aren't NOTSS like I wouldn't. I suppose I haven't
seen a pull on this, but I would take a
educated guest that Bernie Sanders fans aren't gonna go like,
oh well, I guess I would vote for Biden in
a pinch, like I don't think that there's yeah, I
don't think Biden gets to tell it like it is
credit though, I think Biden is considered by like a
Bernie standard Bernie supporter button is probably considered to be

(49:02):
more of an establishment like politicis politicians. Brine Sanders has
just seemed to be like pure authenticity. Like I'm just
gonna I've been saying the same thing for fifty years.
I've always been a champion of this stuff socialist. That's
what seemed so bullshitty to me about their take, and
this this just seems to be the standard. I think
the standard political analysts take is like they have these

(49:27):
broad platitudes, but then like they applied it, like one
person was saying Buddha Jedge was the authentic one, and
then another person was saying a different person was was
the authentic one. And it's just I think maybe at
a certain point those people's political alchemy ideas held water.
But now like we're in a new world and they're

(49:47):
having to just use a like a single point of
reference in the two thousand and sixteen election, Like in
the past, they could be like, well, you know, going
back to the seventies, this has happened. That has happened,
but they were all wrong about the so they're having
to just be like, well, in the election, it was
about authenticity or yeah, that's why Trump won. And I

(50:09):
mean I think there's maybe a point to that, like that,
you know, people who have been burned, like all of
these people just got sort of piped by Donald Trump.
So they're like, oh, yeah, bro, I mean you know so,
but that gives you the sort of the purest perspective potentially,
like there, you do have to explain it somehow. Yeah,
like the fact that he flipped Obama voters famously and

(50:29):
that he flipped you know, some people were Bernie voters
who voted for Trump, and I was like, you have
to figure out how to explain that in some way,
some overarching way. People say like, oh, it's just that
everybody who voted for Donald Trump is a racist. Yeah,
that's one overarching theory. Another is is this one that
it's like has something to do with you know, people
have feel of visceral basically, I think if I understand

(50:52):
what they like, the thread is that all these people
are trying to get at you need to engage with
people in some visceral emotional level. And I think that's
a that's not a new idea and like politics that
you have to like get to people like that's why
Donald Trump can, you know, do whatever he wants and
nobody doesn't lose any supporters, including farmers that are being
actively financially screwed up by his trade fights. They're like,

(51:15):
he's fighting for us, he's fighting. They think he's fighting,
he's fighting for that. I also don't know if you
can completely separate platform and policy from the visceral level.
I think they're actually and I don't think you're saying that,
but um, like you know, full disclosure as a Bernie
bro who's also clearly a Russian agent. But um, but

(51:35):
I mean I'm not I'm actually not like I'm not
like a fanatic. I don't you know, I don't have heroes,
but I you know, for me, any emotional connection to
a policymaker has to do with what there's like what
platform they have. So if like Bernie came out tomorrow
and was like, you know, it's great that we're keeping

(51:58):
migrant children in cages, I would hate him because like
that's a terrible thing to say. So it's it's connected
to to policy now. So it's like if someone else,
if some other candidate other than Burning with a different
personality is saying the same things he is, are similar
things like sort of like Elizabeth Warren, it's like I
still feel the same kind of you know, like Okay,

(52:18):
I I like what she's saying or like whatever this
person is saying, because I think that a lot of
especially younger people, are getting more cynical about like, well,
just because someone you know acts like your friend or
something doesn't mean they're actually gonna um do that. And
I think that instead of copying the Trump model, I

(52:40):
think it's important to kind of learn from this, Like
if you have someone who makes these big promises or
so something, but they really just kind of, you know,
playing you to get elected, I think people are don't
like that. They don't they don't want that specific and
that's what that's what his weakness may turn out to be.
And it may, in fact be somebody like Warren who
gets to be this authenticity. She may get to be

(53:02):
that candidate. And like if you have to at Lawson saying, like,
listen to what she's saying, Like she's on her way already, clearly,
you know, yeah, And I just I don't. It's like
I almost don't. I don't care. I feel and maybe
I'm just tired, but I don't care if a candidate
is authentic. I don't even know what that means anymore.
Like I don't know, I don't know what, I don't

(53:22):
know what well I don't even know, Like I don't
know what Elizabeth Warren truly believes. I don't know what Bernie.
I mean, you can kind of guess. I mean, Bernie
Sanders seems to have had a pretty consistent platform, so
that's a that's a good sign. But right, I just
don't It's like, what are their intentions? Like I just
don't care what their intentions. I really care about them

(53:44):
showing me what their policy is. Like if someone if
a candidate says something like, well, I want to work
towards you know, more togetherness or something, It's like, that
doesn't mean anything to me, Like I want to work
towards solutions. I don't know what that means. That doesn't
mean anything. You know, if you show me a specific platform,
I mean, there's obviously always the chance that you don't

(54:05):
follow that platform. But I think candidates, right and I
think candidates often will hint like if you if you
kind of go back and like litigate you know, Hillary's
campaign or even go back to Obama's campaign, sure like
there may you know, you can actually see things in
their platform that you know, maybe um right now would

(54:25):
be not at all agreeable to the more populist point
of view. So I think that voters just really want
they want specific things in the platform that they can
point to and say, like, look, I know someone who
has diabetes and needs insulin and like and if you're
telling me that you will cover that with a healthcare plan,
that means something to me. That's a that's an actual

(54:46):
meaningful position. I don't know how you can get more specific.
Then there's not a red America or Blue America. There's
the unit means that's real bring our butt holes together momentum.
But but but I'm very cynical about Tucker Carlson though, um,
because I feel I think, I mean, maybe I shouldn't be,

(55:10):
but I mean, obviously he's a lying, weasel, scumbag. It's
not it's not that it's that I wonder, like what
whether it's like, oh, they see the writing on the
wall and they see that this is this is the
way to go now. I don't think it's that. I
think he was his main point that he was trying
to make. He's trying to shame Republican. He's trying to say, like,
where are my Republicans on this issue? He's really trying

(55:32):
to I think he knows that Fox News can lead
politicians in their platforms and get get like it's a
weird sort of you know, its own butt hole situation.
Maybe maybe Tucker Carlson's kind every I mean, he did

(55:54):
save us from going to war with you that's I
don't even know if we talked about that, but you
said that he was locked and loaded and ready to
uh bomb Iran. And then Tucker Carlson told him basically
through the through the TV was like you know they're
talking the phone. Oh. He said that it was gonna

(56:18):
make him lose a lot of popularity, and it reminded
that it reminded him that he ran on not doing
these crazy intervention ast wards Like so that's so sickening
just that we're like, you know, there but by the
grace of Tucker Carlson, go away. It's yeah, I'm then
not a sickening as if they yeah, like I will

(56:40):
you know, if if Tucker Carlson prevents a war with Iran,
I don't know, it doesn't need to deserve like a
Nobel Peace Prize or something. Your words putting the questions
out there. You're the one who said, right, uh, well,
we only have time for one more and that we
have to get this story. And guys, Sharman has put

(57:02):
out a what they're calling a forever roll of toilet paper. Uh.
It's impractically huge. It looks like one of those giant
wheels of cheese. Um, but they came. They claim it
can last you a month of just near constant shipping. Uh.
And it's twelve inches the equivalent of twenty four toilet

(57:25):
paper rolls. And it's being hailed as the toilet paper
roll for millennials because it cuts down on because we
can't afford space, we all we all live in a
box and so uh you know right, yeah, yeah, no totally.
But it's basically the idea that what are the two

(57:49):
things millennials hate? They don't have any space to live
in and they hate leaving the house. This takes care
of that. You have toilet paper roll that you can
eat off of it can the like your I use,
I use kitchen table. I used toilet paper for every
Like what millennials do is like we like we kill
industries and we use toilet paper for literally every purpose.

(58:10):
So like place mats, napkins, paper towel, engagement rings, engagement rings, um,
casts if we break our legs because we don't have
health and wrap your arm and to dip it in
the toilet hardens up to dress up as mommy's or
to actually use in funerary rituals because again we don't

(58:31):
have any money. Um, but yeah, this is wait, so
what makes so I'm still not clear on the concept
of what makes this toilet paper so special that it rolls.
It's big, it's big, but they're compact or no, it's
just the toilet paper roll. Ever, But how's that supposed

(58:53):
to help me with space? Because think about how much
space rolls of toilet paper take up. It's like a
giant bob visualizing it right, whereas twenty it was just
a giant wheel. Yeah, it's just one wheel, like a
cheese wheel of a cheese wheeler. It's exactly the size
of a wheel of parms. Yeah, how's that That's not

(59:14):
going to fit in my little toilet dispenser, toilet roll dispenser.
So that's that is the other genius thing is that
they're providing the toilet roll dispensers. That's how they get
coming and going. It's like the's like the computer, Like,
here's our new Apple computer and here's the toilet rolls.
Wait could you it's actually on a subscription service like

(59:39):
six years in your printing toilet roll cloud that you
have to subscribe to. They that would be really funny,
like an automated toilet paper dispenser. It has the toilet
paper in there, but if your subscription runs out, it's
just like and then it knows that your moment of
need and it's like, well, suddenly the toilet paper is
now twenty dollars apply. Yeah, that's how they get you,

(01:00:03):
get coming and going the bathroom. Get it. Yeah. Jack's
never gonna let me on this podcast again. I think
I literally said what the hell is wrong with you?
During there? I've never seen him that are either. Uh well, Katie,
I wish I could say it's been great heaven you

(01:00:24):
know it has as always. Where can people find you?
You can find me on the street now, don't do
that please. I'm on Twitter at Katie Golden and I'm
also a bird on Twitter at pro bird Writes. And
I have a podcast called Creature Feature, which is every
Wednesday at the same place as you can find this podcast. Um,

(01:00:46):
what is it? It's a podcast on animal and human
behavior and you know, we're not so different after all.
And uh, sometimes animal behavior is weirdly human and human
behavior is weirdly animal. And that's what we talk on
and have a comedian on and I explained disgusting evolutionary
biology facts to them and they react appropriately, um and inappropriate. Yeah,

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And then you can follow the podcast at Creature Feet
Pod on Twitter, f e a t or on Instagram
at Creature Feature Pod and online at Creature Feature or
just Creature feature pod dot com. And is there a
tweet you've been enjoying? Yeah, there is. Um. This is
by brose a wh brose A brose a name as

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whoiver do uh easier names to read guys, please? Um?
But he writes before memes, guys used to sit around
in a circle and loudly quote anchorment in each other
for literal hours. That's true. That is true. That's what
we used to do. Yeah. And now for me, it
was like it was Austin Powers. Yeah, Simpsons. For me,

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it was always, Uh, we had friends who said me
and my friend Chris were like Simpsons. I felt Simpsons.
I thought it was more him than me. But yeah,
that's uh, that's do people not do that anymore. They
just like, there's have you seen that one meme? Yeah?
I don't. I think people just send each other memes
now yeah, and don't talk. Yeah, And the only time

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they talk it's to say moo, that's right, Jesus Christ. Uh. Nick,
hey man, it's been great having you here. Do we
say up top that you are one of the producers
of this show and usually the engineer oftentimes the engineer

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We did, Yeah, but I haven't been around in a minute,
so credit words due to old Daniel DJ Daniel Goodman
dropping the bombs. Uh some for some reason it was
stuck at at some point earlier. But uh, Nick, where
can people find you? I don't do any of this stuff.

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I gotta tell you, I just don't do it. Yeah,
that's admirable. I think you're the first person that we've
ever had on the show who doesn't. Uh. Is there
a tweet you enjoyed or no? Uh? I can't. I
can't say that there. I think Neil Michael Haggerty follow
Neil Michael Haggerty on that he's a singer. Okay, do

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you like his songs or he's a good Yeah? I
know he's he's Uh. He's really good artist also, but
his Twitter feed is good. M hmm. Alright, well I'm
gonna follow him right now. Tweet I enjoyed Mark mcgark
at market. Lee tweeted me, how do I do my taxes?
Public school? Shut the funk up in square dance? Um.

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You can find me on Twitter and Jack under Squirrel. Brian,
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link off to the information that we talked nice. They're
an echoing here, uhf to the information that we talked

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about in today's episode, as well as the song we
ride out on. Nick, do you want to give us
a song? I got on? Actually got one. I coloaded
yea Um somebody he said cock because he can't do
anything without making it just slightly the problem on it. Um.

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Song that I'd like to propose is by Kate Labon.
It was a great singer, okay, and I thought and
it was being a theatrical yawn okay. Um. Cay Lebon
is Welsh. She's awesome. She got a lot of good record.
She's a new record called Reward and this song is
called Home to You. The whole record is good. This
song is particularly fave currently on that laban uh Ellie

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you're going to be covering uh last night and to
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