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February 23, 2018 61 mins

In episode 91, Jack & Miles are joined by comedian Brian Kiley to discuss Trump's 'empathy' note card, Marco Rubio getting his own three billboards, Kylie Jenner ruining Snapchat, a diet study, Olympics coverage, bloidwatch, Google trends, & more.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season nineteen episode for
Sair Daily Zeitgeist for February eighteen. My name is Jack
O'Brien aka Jacketup jacket in let me begin. I came
to win battle me oh brien courtesy of Ramen King,
and I'm joined as always buy my good friend and
co host, Mr Miles Gray. Wow you said friend this time. Yeah,

(00:24):
that warmed my heart. Yes, but my a k A
to Dight is black Japanther, you know, in honor of
the great film And that comes to me from mfc
ericson on Twitter. He did a very wonderful photoshop of
my head on the T'Challa outfits, So thank you for
empowering me with your digital imagery, sir. And before we
get to our wonderful and esteemed guest in our third

(00:45):
seat today, we have a quick announcement that I am leaving,
oh yeah, for a week. I'm gonna be out next week.
My wife is giving birth to our second on Monday. Uh.
It is a schedule thing, so it will be happening Monday,
if not sooner. So I'll be out uh and Miles

(01:07):
will be taking over. Uh. So we'll see how that
goes a lot, a lot of voice cracking. Yeah, and
also a lot of very special co hosts. Yeah. Basically,
this is me announcing that next week's show. You should
really listen. It's gonna be really good. I'm not gonna
be here and it's gonna have It's gonna be you know,

(01:27):
maybe a Jamie Loft maybe. Yeah. All the bests are
are going to be in replacing me. Miles will be
replacing me. They'll be replacing Miles, so I cannot be replaced. Yeah,
so look forward to that. And we are thrilled to
be joined in our third seat by the hilarious comedian

(01:51):
Brian Kylie. He congratuations on the baby. That's huge. What
do you have already? We have a boy and my
wife really wants a girl. I kind of want a
girl as well. And uh, we are not finding out
this time because we you know, we feel like we'll
be happy on the day of either way. Sure. Sure,
Well I have a boy and a girl. Oh nice, Yeah, yeah, yeah, congratulations,

(02:14):
you've been blessed, sir. Well they're in college, but yeah, yeah,
they're not man and woman. Uh. I have to tell
you up top, I'm a huge fan. Uh and co
is one of my favorite shows. And your stand up,
your joke writing is unbelievable. We have one of the
world's greatest joke writer today. Later on I'm going to

(02:36):
should leave, okay, and that was right. He has a
daughter and Brian Uh. We start out by asking people
what is something from your search history that is revealing
about who you are? Well? And I play a lot
of Sparkle. Do you play Sporkle? I don't know what
Sparkle is. I don't. It's a website. It's quizzes. So
it's just trivia quizzes and it's every day they changed them,

(02:58):
and it'll be literature, it'll be miscellaneous, it will be
history or whatever. So I'm kind of a history buff
and I enjoyed the history once and sometimes it's very easy.
So the one I did yesterday, it was eighteen century women.
I didn't do very well, and I was like, oh,
how progressive of I know. I felt terrible. So what
I did was I saw what I'm gonna do is

(03:19):
each day, as I'll look up one of the ones
I don't know on Wikipedia. So I looked up this
woman yesterday named something Kaufman, and it was actually it
was interesting. Her dad, she was a famous painter. She
became famous at age twelve, and her dad was a
painter and a muralist, but he was kind of not
very successful. He traveled around, but she was his prodigy.

(03:41):
And the part that really I found very interesting that
there was a part where she married some prince who
turned out to be an impostor and then yes, and
then left him a year later. So that it's just
a little aside on Wikipedia. You're like, wait, I want
to hear about the impostibles. One of my favorite underrated
things about history is that, Yeah, they had a version

(04:02):
of cat fishing where people just claimed they were a
person and then when you saw them, they would still
claim they were that person because like, you couldn't there
there were no photographs and you know, fingerprints were not
invented yet, so you could just claim to these yes,
your whole Yeah, I couldn't fax over an oil painting exactly.
Whatever over is this Angelica Kaufman? I think it was,

(04:27):
That's right. I couldn't think of her. I was just
looking up it was. Um. It's also interesting in those dastes,
like someone would die and then someone would show them go. Um,
that person. Right, It's like no, I thought, right, they
died you imagine? Can you verify that? That seemed to
happen in Russia all the time. Yeah, Russia was really

(04:49):
big on that. It was Anastesia, Like, wasn't she like
an impostle? Yeah? That they were all gunned down, didn't
come back. It was fine. They missed me, no anybody.
They got to everybody, right, Uh, what is something you
think is underrated? Um? I don't you feel like everything
is either overrated or underrated. I feel like nothing's ever

(05:11):
properly rated rated there? You know, there was when I
was a kid, there's a baseball player named Joe Rudy
who was always getting these accolades as the most underrated
player in the league, and he gets so many that
he became overrated. Where it's like, you know what I mean,
and whatever comedian I like sometimes taking ell this buzz
about them and it's like, all right, now, you're overdoing it, right.

(05:31):
You know, it's very hard for people to be rated
just where they belong. This is a very philosophical Sorry
where is the middle? Yes? Where is That's what I
think is? Maybe that's what's underrated. Is there anything the middle.
Is there anything to you that is universally properly rated
in your opinion that isn't like an element, uh from
in my life? Yeah, well, my incredible terrible singing ability

(05:56):
is properly rated as right. Yeah, so I think there
are things that are right right, Yeah, are your terrible singer?
You do a lot of car I don't. I don't
sing alone in the car. That's how bad I am.
You're just like I might be bugged. I don't want

(06:16):
to say that. Uh. Chuck Closterman did an article about
all the overrated underrated bands, and he said the only
properly rated band I think was van Halen maybe, or
van Halen was the most properly rated because it's just like, yeah,
they were pretty good, but like like everybody knows of them,
and like nobody nobody like tours with van Halen. They're

(06:40):
just like, yeah, they have some cool songs. There are
people that who do follow van Halen, right, like Eddie
van Halen. Yeah. Alright, let's get into the format. We're
trying to take a sample of what people are thinking
and talking about right now, and the way we like
to open that up is by asking our guest, what
is a myth. What's something people think it's true that

(07:00):
you based on your personal experience. No, not to be well,
you know, it's interesting. My son goes to college in Ohio.
So we were out there not long ago and went
to the football Hall of Fame and then this whole
thing about sports building character. No, no, I mean I know,
I'm busting the easiest men in the world. Right, what

(07:20):
are you talking about? You know? And they, you know,
they point to like Alan Page, who was a great
defensive player who's now a judge, and they point to
one and two. It's like, Okay, we got O. J. Simpson,
that Ruth that's a great one. Um, that's that's only
two murderers I know from from my life. We're both
great football players. Yeah, my old football coach is now

(07:42):
in prison from murder. So you mean murders who you personally, Yes,
and I keep from my little league team. Murderer. Was
he the best player? He was like five ten twelve
years old, like a hundred seventy pounds, and he would
hit these titanic home runs every game like he's a beast,
but and and a fantastic football player. Yeah. So yeah,

(08:06):
that's a good point. Because people who are incredibly good
at sports generally have just natural innate gifts that they
don't really need to learn how to get there, and
so things just come easy to them. Things are given
to them, like all through their formative years. And I

(08:26):
feel like that's not necessarily the best way to build character. Maybe, yeah, absolutely,
And I think that's all that they put the team first. No,
they don't. And and also football they they they're very
good at being violent, which if you're going to be
a murderer, being good at being violent is really one
of the key things. I mean, sure, you can poison

(08:47):
somebody or whatever, but for the most part, that's what
player does. Ye exactly. Absolutely. Just reading some riff about
how poisoning is the womanly way to murder, have heard that, Yeah,
that that's like whereas uh, you know, shooting and stabbing,
that's like violent because it's it's manly because you're like, yeah, basically,

(09:11):
and that my brother who's a cop, told me that
very when women shoot somebody, it's usually multiple shots and
the guy just shoot somebody one time. But I took
care of him. I just shot him in the head.
And oh it's like there's more. It's more cathartic. Yeah, right,
give a woman an inch and you know, you know,

(09:32):
am I right? Guess? So the other thing is about
sports is you know, like a lot of kids just
do it because their parents. They think they're just doing
it because their parents will be happy that they're doing
it too. Like I grew up with my dad always saying,
like whenever whenever I was playing a sport, he was like,
you want to be playing this, right, And I'm like, yeah,
it's because I don't care, right, I don't want you
to think I want because he's like. I grew up

(09:54):
with my dad telling me like, you're gonna play football,
and I hated it and I hated being there and
I hated being yelled at. And it's true, like for
some kids, it's not. Sports isn't. Actually it's probably a
bad environment for some people to Like me, I'm sensitive,
I don't yell, But yeah, it's I guess that's true.
It does it really build I mean I think it
builds basic team building or a teamwork maybe, but that's true.

(10:16):
Maybe you can murder with somebody and that. Yeah, if
if you are a like maybe average to above average
athlete and you have to rely on your teammates and
like understand again, that's why coaches are never like former
Michael Jordan's their former like scratch point guards, you know,
Avery Johnson or whatever like you know, people who had

(10:38):
to scrap to get where they are. Uh So, yeah,
it's it's an interesting question. But yeah, I'm sure if
there were like team painting events or team like things
like that like that, you know who who knows what
we could be There's an opportunity costs there. We're having
kids spend you know, eight hours of their time like

(10:59):
playing football when they could be learning other life skills
that don't teach you how to murder. All right, let's
get into the stories of the day. Uh speaking of murder.
Uh So yesterday was Trump free thursdays. We were not
speaking about Donald Trump missed missus, which the whole country

(11:20):
had those things. Yeah, and uh so we didn't get
to talk about his empathetic uh you know press conference
with the families of the victims from the Florida shooting
where he had a little note card that taught him
told him what was what was basic empathy? Right, it

(11:40):
was like number listen, I hear you or something like yeah,
number four was I hear you right? Number five, number five,
I have it. It's hard because his hands up scaring it.
But the first one was what would you most want
me to know about your experience? The number two said
what can we do to help you feel safe? And
then you can't read four or five? And then number
five is just I hear you right, which is mind

(12:01):
blowing that it's clearly to like someone else's panicked scrawl
like on there, please just remember, like remember this. Like
conservatives were like what so the guy as notes what's
wrong with that? But it's like it's like having breathed
on there. It's like these are natural things that humans
do in conversations. That is why that is a strange thing. Um.

(12:24):
The what the conclusion that he has seemed seemingly come
to is that the issues are really mental health care
and uh teachers not having enough guns, it seems like
is his main thing. Um, there was an armed officer

(12:45):
at the at the school. We'll get to the mental
health thing in a minute, but there was. It came
out yesterday an armed officer there who just kind of
stayed outside and uh in cover for nation and waited
for the cops to arrive. Even though he was supposed
to be that guy. Um, and yeah, it's an interesting thing,

(13:10):
Like it's it's very depressing, and you know it's uh Jesus,
he was right there, like he could have stopped it.
Like it's a very frustrating, horrifying, uh thing to to realize. Uh.
The really notable thing for me is that they came
out and said his name immediately and where, and nobody
is like and obviously this is he's gonna never sleep again,

(13:32):
and like his life is ruined. People are just like, yeah,
this guy's a coward. We fired him. Uh. Like it
just seems like just such an open I don't know,
like the the court of public opinion is just being
just like, yeah, no, fuck him. He should kill himself.
That's that's probably what he should do. And it's a
terrible situation because you know, you're in law enforcement and

(13:53):
that's like you're you go into law enforcement with a
duty to serve and protect and when you can't do that,
I mean, like god, and you try and put yourself
in a situation like that. On one hand, you feel like, well,
you're in law enforcement, so of course you knew that's
part of the job. So why didn't you do it?
And on the other just the humanity of that for
a person just to be in some very scared like

(14:13):
fight or flight thing and they just sort of shut
down or which is as I've talked about on this show,
my immediate response and fight or flight is I just
shut down. I've never won an argument with my wife
because my brain just shuts down and I just go, uh,
she's just not a superior intellect. Yeah she's Yeah, there's that,

(14:33):
yeah right, uh. But yeah, so I don't know I
can empathize with the guy obviously, you know, we wish
there was somebody there who, you know, had had the
ability to go in there and say people's lives. And
if it was somebody I knew or loved in in

(14:56):
that school, who you know, he failed to going in
revene on the behalf of I, I would probably be
equally frustrated. But it's just it's just weird that I
don't know it. See, it seems like the sort of
thing that people usually are like, well, that is obviously
horrible that he's now openly being shamed like this, but yeah,

(15:17):
but now he's just getting dragged out. It's sort of
like the lightning rod for everyone's from the pointing, especially
like I think yet today when Trump was at giving
a speech to Seapack called him out to Oh, Trump
called him out. Yeah, So it's just yeah, it's just,
you know it, the whole thing is this a terrible situation,
and this is just another person who's probably going to
be deeply affected by that for the rest of his life. So, um,

(15:39):
the n r A is starting to actually, you know,
it's it's been a thing where we have had many
mass shootings and our response has been, you know, well,
surely this will make people, uh realize that the n
r A is uh policies are crazy and not beneficial

(16:01):
to our species in our country. Uh. And that hasn't
been the case, but it's it seems like public opinion
might be moving slightly. Yeah. Well, because now a lot
of companies are who used to do business with the
n r A are starting to back away. Uh, Like
First National Bank of Omaha, who used to do like
the official n r A credit card. They were like,

(16:23):
m No, we can't, we can't do this anymore because
like I think they're sort of mission statement as a
bank is like we try and make sure like people
past the good person test and we want to be
doing right and it just didn't vibe with I guess
this time it finally didn't vibe with their their values.
And then also Enterprise Alamo and National Runner, Rental Cars,
Semantic who does, like Norton Anti Virus and LifeLock, Chubb Insurance,

(16:46):
like a lot of these places, we're giving discounts to
n r A members, which is typically how why a
lot of these companies are in business with the n
r A is to offer them discounts like triple A
or a ARP or something like that. And so I
have to be okay with Norton Antivirus. Now, yeah, fucking
sucks Peter Norton. He's a great art collector to prolific
art collector. Um, yeah, I mean that's to be. But

(17:08):
now it's sort of like I think, since clearly these
companies see that the optics are very bad. So I
do want to commend these companies for saying, yes, we
don't want any part with this. There are many companies
that still do, uh and who aren't really doesn't look
like they're willing to budge, like Avis rent a Car, Hurts, Budget,
Allied Van Lines, Met Life true car and FedEx is

(17:30):
like the biggest one I think that I think people
should really be putting pressure on because it's a I
don't know if think it's clear that the n r
A is just here to advocate for the manufacturers of
guns under the guise of representing gun owners. Uh. And
now I don't think there's really any reason to be
in business or in bed with these people anymore. And yeah,

(17:51):
and also too, and I know a lot of people
point to this, like boycott the n r A or
these businesses, as being a way to induce any kind
of change. It probably isn't the most it's effective way
to induce any legislative change. But in terms of inducing
that change, I think people also need to be very
aware of who in Congress is getting a ton of
money from the n r A uh and making sure

(18:12):
that you're holding them accountable, whether that's making them, you know,
reject the money of the n r A or voting
them out of office. And we'll have a list of that,
we'll tweet that out later, so yeah, you can know
who who should be on your radar and who shouldn't be.
And also the few Democrats that take it to so
shame on y'all. Yeah, and they came out strong then
r A yesterday, Wayne Lapierre came out pretty strong, strongly.

(18:35):
Usually they wait until the story has died down and
then quietly or like yeah, fuck you, that's right, that's right.
So talking about mental health, was talking about he talked
about mental health. He talked about better arming our elementary schools,
having more guns at our elementary schools, because you know,
we we have guns at airports, you know, protecting planes,

(18:59):
So why shouldn't we have guns protecting our you know,
second graders. The answer is always more guns. But there
was a deputy there was, right, But I think I
think that guy's a coward, you know what I mean,
Like it's crazy, but I mean to train teachers who
have no experience. This guy had parents and he froze,
which yeah, you know, I don't know already, asking these

(19:23):
underpaid teachers who have to go out of their way
to even buy school supplies for their students. Now on
top of that, you're like, oh, we want you to
pack heat and bust back it. Well, I mean I
think the answer to that is bonuses, one time bonuses.
That's Trump's answer to everything. And that's seriously what he said.
He was like, well, give them financial bonuses if they
learned to like carry guns and carry guns in the classroom.

(19:45):
Uh so, yeah, would you ever put like as parents
to you? Is there any are there security measures that
seemed appropriate to just glad when I was a kid
that none of my teachers had a gun because they
definitely would have shot me. Oh man, I had a
I had a calculus teacher who would rage out regularly
on us, crazy, like he threw like his diet cocine

(20:07):
across the room, Mr gamble Um, and he that's the
kind of person I always thought of meeting, like, oh yeah,
because you know, teachers are stressed too, because it is
not yea, it is not an easy job. It's not
that you want to then are I mean not that
you know, everyone is a liability. But that's not the answer, Like,
don't put don't add another responsibility to these people who
are already You're like, oh, well, teach my kids right

(20:28):
from home, educate them and do all this other stuff.
So yeah, no, I mean, I think I think the
next solution for them is going to be to arm
the students themselves. I think I think that has been suggested,
at least I've heard I've heard it suggested. So well,
the walk out with the kids I found very interesting. Yeah,
and yeah, weren't weren't some of them being suspended? But yeah,

(20:49):
I don't know. I do admire the sort of the
response to that kind of ground swell or whatever. Yeah,
what's it's it's nice to see. I mean, you know,
activism really does start, you know, with with young people
and with certain issues, and it's just great to see
how quickly these students mobilized, um, because I know in
Texas they were like trying to threaten kids with suspension
for exercising their constitutional right. Also with social media, now

(21:13):
that they they can activate quickly, you know, they can
write a bunch of people can be reached in the
shrip amount of time, and yeah, totally, and you know
it's a matter of making that sustained and uh, you know,
focused and well organized. I know that there's been some
studies that say that the social media protests have been

(21:36):
you know, good in terms of being quick to spread
and easy to get more and more people out, Like
the the Women's March was one of the largest protests
in the history of the country. And you know, even
even the organizers said it was largely because they were
able to organize things on social media. But uh, you know,

(21:57):
there's also you need to find ways to actually make
that sustained and to affect change so that that's not
just like a social media event but but an actual,
uh sustained story. Yeah, hopefully they're able to do that.
All right, we'll take a quick break and we'll be
right back, and we're back, And we were just talking

(22:28):
at the break about how, you know, difficult it can
be to sort of strike the balance of when to
joke about a you know, serious story like that. And
you were saying, Brian that you you know, as a
writer for Conan, you face that balance on a regular basis, right, Yeah,
I mean, you know there's topics like this that you
won't go near. But it's also interesting that it's become

(22:51):
a thing where the late night host to be some
tragedy like this, and they'll come out and they won't
do comedy and they'll just have a ten minutes sort
of their take on whatever. And you know, Conan made
a very interesting point the last time, because it's hard
to keep shock at them. Now if it was Las
Vegas or or Orlando or whatever. The springs. He was like, Okay,

(23:15):
one of my I have to come out and talk
about this, and we can't do any comedy and we
get whatever. And they gave him a file of old
this is what you said the last couple of times,
and he was like, really, there's a file and what
I have to you know, on these tragedies of this
is how you know, And that's just it's so shameful,

(23:35):
that's so awful that this is this regular thing and
this is how you deal with it, and it's so
frequent that there's a protocol or something, you know. And
that was what he was commenting on. And it was
just with Sandy Hook in Las Vegas and Orlando and
and these things that you think, well, after all these
children were killed, you thought, okay, well finally people you know, No,

(24:01):
you know, I don't know. It just becomes so frustrating
that it's hard not to be cynical and think, well,
nothing's going to happen they you know. And it's interesting now,
especially so many late night hosts have been a voice
of like reason at times, more so than the representatives
in government. Do you guys sort of in the writer's
room like wrestle with like when do you speak about something?

(24:24):
Is there something worth sort of coming out with a
serious tone about, or how do you guys sort of
see that responsibility? Well, you know it's we're trying to
make jokes, so it's kind of right, we're trying not
to do that. So and then even sometimes you have
some unrelated thing that you go, oh, people are going
to think we're talking about that, or even if we
had a high school piece, we had nothing to do
with that that we're planning. You know, we can't do

(24:44):
that because now you're talking about high school. Everyone goes
exactly So to me, the whole thing is that the
slippery slope where they say, well, let's have if you
have ties to isis, you shouldn't be allowed to buy
a gun. Oh we can't have that, right, you know,
it's like, well, wait, who's in favor of I just
getting understand why would right wing people? Why would who's

(25:05):
on that side? We're actually a pro Issis podcast. We've
i that three hour indoctrination that had me curious in
the way in but I didn't think, um, those training
videos really interesting. But sets so we're gonna get into
Uh one of the more fun ways people have responded

(25:25):
to this most recent mass shooting. Uh. There three billboards
in politicians there billboards, the three billboards. Yes they're they're putting. Yeah.
They some protesters in London after this giant Grenfell Tower

(25:47):
fire that killed seventy one people. And it was found that,
you know, they were not prepared for the fires, and
that they had rather than you know, spend a thousand
dollars on upgrades that would have saved people lives, they
just like chose cost cutting measures instead. Uh. So over
there they put up three billboards that said seventy one

(26:07):
dead and still no arrests. How come? Uh? And now
in Florida, Marco Rubio is getting the Woody Harrelson treatment
for all. Uh. And we don't mean that he's marrying
an Australian woman who's like thirty years younger than him. Uh,
completely out of his league. But three trucks with billboards

(26:28):
like the ones from the movie circled his office for
an hour and they said slaughtered in school and still
no gun control? How come Marco Rubio? Uh? And yeah,
I don't know I like that. And he was confronted
right in the town hall. Yeah, yeah, days ago one
of them. Yeah, students just point blank were like, hey,
will you refuse money from the n R And he

(26:48):
was like, people buy into my agenda, so I can't.
He literally said people buying. I mean he got booed to.
I mean he earned that in our a money. I
guess if you're gonna stand up there and fucking really
say that in front of a group of people like that, Jesus. So.
I mean, what I really like about these billboards, it's
like it's different than a human because you can't argue

(27:09):
with the billboard, you know what I mean. It's there's
like a power to it if you just leave it
there because the words are there for everyone to read
and you can't rebut an inanimate object. So there's like
a subtle power to it too that I kind of
admire about these moves. Um, and I think people are
doing that in Wisconsin too. How comes speaker Ryan billboard up?

(27:32):
That one's actually permanent, It's not like on a moving truck.
So they bought like some mad space. Yeah, they put
up the money, bought some mad space. Uh. I don't
know specifically what they were coming at him with regards
to but no, it was a gun reform thing too,
because it was like, yeah, it's a progressive pack with
that seventeen killed in their classrooms, still no gun reform.
How come, Paul Ryan, Well, you know, we had that

(27:54):
assault weapon band for ten years, and I'd be curious
of how many mass shootings there were during that as
opposed to the last years or whatever. Yeah, I mean
we were talking about that earlier in the week that
you know, yes, Columbine happened during that, but Columbine was
so shocking and you know, seen as such a crazy

(28:15):
event that we still you know, think about Columbine and
that had too fewer killed than this Florida matt shooting. Uh,
And it seemed like, you know, the the news stopped
for like months back then, and now it's just you know,
it does seem like it's a couple of times a week.
I mean, this is a big one, but it it does
seem like there's a school shooting, you know. Yeah, And

(28:36):
that's what I think maybe why things are starting to
change a bit, because maybe we've reached that threshold where
people are starting to feel disgusted by the fact that
it feels normal, because certainly that's how it felt because
you're like, oh man, another one. And then we were
just kind of really bummed out that we were like
our responses like another rather than you know, we weren't

(28:57):
a gas like what like what's going on? Think that's
I hope that's what's happening now. Yeah, um, and it
seems like the student's response and yeah, like walking out
and you know, holding the rallies and you know, I
think they're going to Washington soon. Uh. Are is another difference,
another thing that's sort of separating this um, but just uh,

(29:19):
you know, our writer Jam was pointing out that the
three billboards thing is an interesting continuation of a long
held trend of using movie tactics to protest, Like the
guy Fox mask from V for Vendetta is basically the
go to mask for anonymous and you know, hacker culture.

(29:41):
And apparently in Thailand, the Hunger Game salute like the
three fingers, which was sort of a you know, it
was like raising a fist in the Hunger Games universe,
that became a form of protest in Thailand to like
a way to protest their government keeping them under military rule.
And by the end it was illegal to put up

(30:03):
the three fingers from Hunger Games, and I think they
just sam touring because anything anti Hunger Games, I'm kind
of right on board, right like because with students like
detained at them, like did they did it at a
movie or something? And some kids and then they didn't
let the movie, the third movie in the series come out.

(30:25):
So three Billboards, they're gonna make it so kids can't
go and hang out at three Billboards anymore. It was
such a hit with the teens. Hey, speaking of teens, Miles,
what a segue? Uh? Kylie Jenner might have just cost
Snapchat one point six billion dollars when she tweeted yesterday,

(30:46):
so does anyone else not open Snapchat anymore? Or is
it just me? This is so sad? And by the
end of the day, Snapchat stock fell by six percent,
which that's fourteen million dollars. Uh, character, so that's one
point six billion. Yes, it just shows you look shocked.

(31:06):
I am. That's incredible. Yeah, because she is sort of
their unofficial spokesperson. She was, you know, very popular on Snapchat.
Now what if she said, does anyone really support the
n ray anymore? Exactly? Maybe? Hey, that's a new campaign actually,
Like if she can cause one point six billion dollars
with the damage to Snapchat. We kind of used the

(31:26):
power of Kylie Jenners. Yeah, exactly, need like Chris Pine
or something, some sort of talking to the children, you
know what I mean, Because yeah, before she was pregnant,
she was like a prolific Snapchat user, and then during
her pregnancy she sort of fell off social media and
then it was just sort of became all Instagram, and

(31:47):
Instagram has been basically like just doing Snapchat for a
place like in Instagram. I personally don't understand Snapchat. I
mean I do, but the appeal it doesn't totally appeal
to But and so what is the appeal of Instagram.
It's just because you sort of boost your ego by
seeing how many followers you have, so you can quantify

(32:08):
something like that. Also, you can you know, upload images
that are there. They're not temporary because on Snapchat they
vanished after it. But the thing is with Instagram, they've
also put the basically the Snapchat feature into Instagram, so
you can do like sort of twenty four hour video
clips or these sort of temporary content things. Sorry to
sound like an old guy, but what is So what's

(32:30):
the difference with than with Twitter than with Instagram. Like,
what's the advantage of Instagram or Twitter? I guess they're
sort of different because Twitter is more about text, whereas
Instagram specifically just photographs and video. But yeah, but the
kids were loving the Snapchat and now, I mean it's
it seems like there have been a lot of stories
like over the last year of how it's kind of

(32:50):
a really wacky place to work and the right Yeah,
it's declining a bit so And I guess now with
Kylie Jenner announcing, I mean, yeah, does anyone else not
open Snapchat cost you a billion dollars? Yeah, I mean
that's Millennials are ruining everything, you know what I mean, Yeah, exactly,

(33:12):
They're ruining Snapchat. They're ruining us oldsters. Uh. So, there
was a story that was kind of in the top
five on the New York Times. We're just gonna kind
of jump around here to different stories that we wanted
to hit this week. Uh And there was a story
that was kind of in the top five on the
New York Times all week that was about this new

(33:32):
diet study from the jama j A m A. I
think that's a medical uh journal, and uh, it basically
found that people who cut back on um calories, who
count calories and just make sure not to go over
a certain calorie count in a given day, actually don't

(33:53):
lose weight. And the way to lose weight is just
too you know, you can eat lots of food. It
as long as you're eating vegetables and whole foods without
worrying about, uh you know, counting calories or limiting portion size.
It's just you can't cheat on what what those foods are.
It's all about food quality, uh, and not quantity, which

(34:17):
is something I kind of always suspected, uh because it's logical,
and it's just based on my personal experience. When I
would go to my in laws house. My in laws
are Korean. They cook just traditional Korean food and it's
all you know, uh really it doesn't have any like

(34:39):
processed sugar in it, and my body would like start
going into withdrawals like I would. I would like start
craving just like sugar and like you know, uh, flour,
and uh. I ended up they live way out in
the sticks. I ended up driving like an hour to
a Domino's Pizza and just eating a whole pizza in

(35:00):
the driver's seat. Of my car, just like shaking like
a crackhead. Yeah, so things were going well, and but
I think that, Yeah, it's like our bodies are so
on this sort of treadmill of just getting like the
sugar and the you know, processed carbohydrates and stuff that

(35:22):
it affects us more than we realize. And you know,
when I tried to just eat like you were supposed
to eat, like a human being is supposed to eat,
I felt the difference, Like you can tell the difference.
But yeah, you can eat as much as you want.
It's just your body won't crave the stuff because your
body it's not cravable. It's just like whole wholesome food.

(35:43):
M I just don't eat shitty food. Guys eat wholesome
food you want. Uh No, But it's so un American
to write. I do remember when they start putting the
calori accounts, Like I would go to Dunk of Donuts
when I was living in Boston and New York, and
I would I go on the kind of a donut
that's I'll have a brand muffin, thinking I'm being healthy,

(36:04):
and they plus the calories and like, don't it's like
two hundred calories. And the Grandmufther was like five, like what,
so I was often duped into what you know, but
it is if it's like, oh, now you're taking that
away from me too, Yeah, yeah, you know. Yeah, And
I mean I think the logic behind the brand muffins
and all that stuff is like you just add the

(36:25):
healthy thing and somehow it like magically becomes healthy, even
though it's like still cake. It's like, yeah, but I've added, right,
and that doesn't work either, even like we're not saying
that you just add a bunch of healthy stuff to
your donuts and that works. Unfortunately, Yeah, you just eat
like your grandparents did. Well. I also I get migraines,

(36:47):
so I have to be careful about like I can't
have caffeine, I can't have chocolate, certain cheeses I can't
have like like processed me. Yeah, so cheese induced migraine. Yeah.
I actually had to because I was kind of different
things and then I read this book and they had
all these different you know. But it's like it's that
it's like if anything could mean for me a fond memory,

(37:09):
can anything? That's just me talking about that really. Yeah,
but the coffee is the big one. You know red
one especially, but even alcohol. Have to be very careful,
you know. But it sounds like your body is doing
a good job of keeping you on this STI I know,
like it's like it's just chocolate cake at work. I'd

(37:30):
be like, no, you know, but in the long run,
you're like, you know, I'm better off not having a
smell it. Yeah, and then that they love when I
put my nose in there. Oh you guys, let me
smell your mouth open up? Yeah, can we talk to you? Um.
The Olympics were on last night, as they have been

(37:54):
for the last two weeks. Two weeks. They're coming to
an end this weekend. Uh, Any anything of note happening yesterday?
I mean, at least my favorite figure skater, Elena's Agitilva.
She won the gold at fifteen years old year old.
And I feel really bad for Agenia mid Vadeva because
she was like the odds on favorite until this fifteen

(38:15):
year old showed up. And she's only seventeen, I think,
and she's already like the old veteran. Yeah. And it's
a wacky story, but I feel like that happens all
the time, because that's seventeen year old has all the
pressure on her and that fifteen year old doesn't And
I feel like that happened with Tara Lepinski And was
it Michelle that had all the pressure on her and

(38:36):
the other one who doesn't have theres It just makes
it so much, know, I just feel what's crazy is
she performed really well? It was because they both actually
were like at the top of their game. It's just
that this fifteen year was prolific, like that she was
the European champion going into this at fifteen. Well, I
feel like if you watch a baseball game now and
you watch a base pollam from the nineteen fifties, it's

(38:58):
pretty much the same thing. I mean, yeah, of throwing
a little harder or whatever, but it's the same game.
If you watch the figure skating from the fifties where
they're actually doing look, I did a figure eight right right?
Are you kidding me? You know? And now these triple
flips and whatever, And the same thing with women's gymnastics.
They show from the fifties a woman on the balance beam,

(39:18):
I'm doing a split what yeah, you know now like
head over heels absolutely and landing on the beams like
this forest thing. It's if someone from now went back
to the fifties, like in a time travel thing and performed,
people's heads would explode. Oh yeah, you know what I mean.
Where if a great picture came back now, people be like,
oh wow, that guys, you know, it's not it's not

(39:40):
the same thing, right right, I mean, even watching NBA
games from Jordan's era, Yeah, there's so much slower, like
there's so they're just athletes out there who you can
tell aren't at the same level as today's NBA players. Like,
you know, Jordan's obviously great, he still would be great,
But guys out there who's playing against who it's like

(40:02):
yo man in the league right with his Forest Grant
level talent. Now yeah, um yeah, that's Scottie Pippen commercial
from when we were kids where he goes back into
the fifties and like just dunks on all these like
like six two white guys. Yeah, it was. It was
a Nike commercial. And I've always thought that was extremely

(40:25):
true that if you just sent like above average NBA
player back and yeah when they're like boys three. When
I was a kid, like a soccer style kicker in
the NFL was like a new thing. Guys, we kicked
straight on with their toe and a four yeard field

(40:46):
goal is a big deal. Yeah, now, and that's sixth
yard field. You know, it's just but there's no when
they kicked straight on. Yeah exactly. Because now if it's
like all the failed high school soccer players just on
the like our kickers, like one of our best soccer
players in my high school and Nick Folk, he became
a kicker in NFL. Because it's funny, like in high

(41:06):
school he was insanely good soccer player and he was
like on the I think he was like in the
Olympic Development Program ODP, and everyone's like, yo, he's gonna
be a great soccer player. And then I remember years
passed and I had lost track, and then suddenly like
he's like, oh, he's kicking for the Jets, and I
was like, he's doing pretty good. But yeah, it shows
you there's a lane for you, even if you're not

(41:27):
a lot of people take kicking that seriously, so even
you know, find a lane for yourself. It is funny.
When I was a kid, there was a goalie in
the NHL who was forty four years old. Some he
played without a mask, and it's so insane thing. But
also he was afraid to fly, so he would take
you know, if they're playing Montreal from Boston whatever or whatever,

(41:49):
it's like, you're in the NHL with no and that's okay,
I'm not going to get on a commercial fly crazy.
I'll take a puck directly into my no. I mean yeah,
when the NHL they didn't have to let when like
helmets were optional, was a very interesting time because I
think they only started doing like in the nineties, right, yeah,
like the very early because I remember even like the

(42:10):
first Cope cards I had as a kid, there were
guys with no helmet on. It was like, this is crazy. Yeah,
but I think the lesson is Evgenia Medvedeva should have
skated to the sounds of nine eleven or or something earlier. Yeah,
this is a skater who you know, has skated to

(42:32):
the sounds of the human soul leaving the body that
was her program was braced on her. Her program was
an expression of that, and she had also skated to
the sounds of nine eleven And this time she just
did Anna Karin and it's like, come on, it's not
dark enough. I know you didn't have the demon inside
of you propelling you to But it's funny because like

(42:53):
on the little programs that they do in between, like
the puff pieces about the athletes, she seems like that
she like likes Anna and stuff, and then she's like,
this piece is about clinical death, but I love Sailor Moon. Yeah,
that's how seventeen year olds are Russia. How eleven year
olds are Russia. I like that. The woman who throws

(43:14):
herself onto the train is the upbeat one that right,
all right, we're gonna take a quick break and we'll
be right back, and we're back and another. This has

(43:34):
been a the brake filled episode because we keep learning
interesting information during the break. But super producer Nick Stump
said that he actually watched the program and there was
the sound of a train, so she did live up
to her you know, Lord of Darkness. Uh yeah, yeah.

(43:55):
Those Russians, it's yeah, man, they're pretty gloomy. It's a
real gloomy gusts. Yeah, exactly. All right, it is time
for Bloyd Watch. This is where we take a look
at what people are passing by in the supermarket aisles

(44:17):
of America. We've talked before about how most of them
are published by the president's good friend, and so a
lot of the stories are basically coming straight from Trump's brain.
The version of that that we have seen this week
is just a lot of stories about how Amar Rossa
is a stupid liar, lying liar. I don't believe anything. Um,

(44:40):
you don't believe whatever she says a lie. So I
think they suggest that she's being paid off by Hillary Clinton.
Probably yeah, So I don't know. Stay tuned a Celebrity
Big Brother to see if she reveals anything interesting. What
do you got in your tabloids? National Enquirer kind of

(45:02):
mashed up two of their bigger stories from the past
three months. Megan Markle and Matt Lauer apparently are hooking
up or hooked up back when he was with The
Today Show. Megan was on as a like fashion correspondent,
and um, he once touched her elbow, which their body
language expert confirms is the equivalent of touching her her boob.

(45:27):
They literally say that, I mean, you might as well
touch her boob. Yeah, yep, uh So there there's I mean,
that's a story that you know, they're they're going to
find a way to write that story won't one way
or another. So I'm sorry, he got some elbow, Yeah,
he touch he touched her elbow. Yeah. When they were

(45:49):
when they're on air together and uh, their NBC experts
confirmed that they went into each other's uh changing rooms
at various points, dressing rooms to say like, Hi, we're
going to be shooting intends right, Yeah, exactly, h man,
you get some boat yo? MANOK? So yeah, I mean

(46:12):
I think we all know what that means. But that's
so so bottom with the barrel of thinking, even for
the National Inquired to just be like a fuck it.
Megan Marco and Matt Lowery fucked once there we go
put it on the cover. And how old is she?
She is thirty six, he is sixty. So, uh, you know,
And were they trying to say, like she was cheating

(46:34):
on Harry? Was that when she was engaged or dating?
I don't think she was dating Harry. But then they
missed another level of intrigue by then bringing the royals in.
They are suggesting that the royal family is in chaos
because of the story that they're printing, and that they're
like trying to shut it down. Basically, Uh, they're like
and they would not comment, and they refused to comment,

(46:56):
so and as we all know, that means that they
did it. You know, you can confirm whatever you were
asking them about. Um, which elbow does it? I believe
it was her left. Well, this is a family programs
we're talking about that. I don't mean to spread rumors,
but I heard that she had fake elbows, she had

(47:17):
an elbow job. Yeah, don't elbow shame. I mean you
look at those things because um yeah, so and they
have pictures of them on camera next to each other
with the elbow touching. No, no elbow touching. That's the
amazing thing is they couldn't even like find the elbow

(47:37):
touching that they claimed happen, So that's sort of shooting
foreign Um. They also have a story on the cover
of The National Enquiry that Bruce Willis supposedly had a
heart attack on the set of Motherless Brooklyn, But what
they actually have is just a picture of him falling down.

(47:58):
Uh and cool. Yeah. Uh. They do reference a weird
interview again, Matt Loward. It always comes back to Matt Larry.
He did a weird interview on the Today Show where
it did look like he was out of it and
uh so, yeah, was he just like high on pills
or something. Yeah, probably, Yeah, it's not clear, but they're

(48:19):
saying like, if you've never seen Bruce Willis interviewed, he
is very strange and seems just mad at the person
who's interviewing him the whole time. He like gives he
has the exact same vibe as he does in his movies,
which is like, hey, pal, go funk yourself, you know,
like that's his whole vibe. I love the movie Bruce.
I got to meet him where um they called me

(48:41):
asked me to do the Letterman Show a few years ago.
I was working at Conan. They called and said, can
you do the show today? And I was I didn't
even know it was in the running and I said, yeah, okay,
they come and they said, okay, you're on. Dave is sick,
Bruce Willis is hosting what and then so they had
they need an extra guest. So that's how I came out.
But it was so surreal to be introduced by Bruce,
you know, like it's like that dream you have where

(49:03):
your dad is your high school principal or and was
he uh what was his interview style? Like, well, there's
no you know, he's a comic you just come out
and do your say. And did Bruce call you over
the famous that you've been, You've made it and he
did come over to my I think he touched my elbow.

(49:23):
I don't mean to start rumors. I mean, well you
heard it here. First Bruce Wilson's sick, uh, and then
the National Examiner, which is uh, the National Enquiry for
the Elderly hyper they have references to like the Napoleonic
Wars and that I'm like, so their version of the

(49:43):
royal story is that Harry attacks Camilla because Camilla is
like who they're familiar with, and then they're like, who's Harry?
How to eliminate your risk of stroke? Is information there?
And then Magnum p I Secret some scandals. That's so specific. Yeah,

(50:05):
but that's like that's TV for them, is Yeah, I
bet so many of our even listeners probably don't even
know Magnum p I. I mean, Magnum p I was
like ending when I was a kid. Yeah, yeah, Well
I would to tell you about Star Magazine because first
they have Mary kay Olsen is pregnant because of this

(50:29):
photo that they say there's a bump bombshell, and I
don't know if her baggy shirt is doubling over. Yeah,
you know, we don't know. But let's say she's pregnant.
I mean apparently her. And was it Nicholas Sarkozy's brother
that she's with, Um, that's true, right, yeah, yeah, he's
like forty six or something and she's thirty one or

(50:50):
maybe Anyway. I also went to elementary school with the
Olsen twins at PS. Yeah, Laurel Hall. Shout out to
Laurel Hall School. Um, she does she know? Nick Folk? No,
we went. She went to Campbell Hall for high school.
I've been shipping them for a long time. And one
of them, maybe Mary Kate maybe actually, But they're saying, uh,
you know that she's been trying to have a kid.

(51:10):
But really they're trying to say, like why Ashley isn't
happy because she's going to be marginalized, bitter jealousy over
domestic blisz. She's terrified she won't matter anymore. So you
know I really her sister, Yeah, because that's that's the
victim here. Yeah, he's Ashley. You know, that's what happens.
We got to create that controversial twins half of your
pregnant the same time that's just twin law. She's violating

(51:34):
a sacred twin law. Um. The other thing too, was
oh in touch, man, we know these magazines are garbage there,
they're just nonsense, but fucking in touch, Like I don't know.
They had a picture of Laura Flynn Boyle on the
cover where she's like drinking in her car and it's
very clear that she's struggling with alcoholism, like severely, and

(51:55):
they're like, look at her hit the bottom, like look
at this before picture and after, and it's just like,
I don't know, like it's one thing to speculate about
people's love lives and like other really superficial ship like that,
but like sort of just slamming somebody for like really
being in a terrible place and they're like, is fucking
just shameful. I don't know why that specifically, just really
bothered because it was like on the cover and I

(52:18):
don't know which if it's over there, but it's just
like it's just a very shitty thing to do for
like a publication, because you know this is someone who's struggling.
But yeah, they still want to be like, oh whoa,
I even't heard her name and I know and that's
what's crazy. Like the only reason, I mean, the last
I remember her when she was dating like Jack Nicholson.

(52:38):
That was years ago, and then now it's just sort
of like look at her gross shoes, TV star hits
rock bottom. Um, it's not a way to sell magazines. Yeah,
but what about but yeah, exactly, No, it's shameful. But
the other thing, I guess the biggest thing is that
the Bloyd fecta has happened, which we've been waiting for,

(52:59):
which is where sound effect for that but cutting print? Uh,
that's when someone has made it on the cover of
every major sort of magazine, tabloid. And that is the
Jennifer Aniston Brad pittsaga re emerging. Oh if she back
with Brad, Well, they are, you would think so based
on the covers, uh, And the extent of of their

(53:23):
interaction seems to be that they might be texting one another.
I think that's it because there's all these pictures of
them together, but it turns out those are all either
photoshopped or ten years old. Uh. And the most they
have of them interacting is that they well they're not
on snapchack because Kylie Kylie was we can't be caught

(53:48):
on there. Yeah, so, I mean, I don't know. It's
amazing how aggressively the magazines just want Brad and Jen
to get back together. It's it's like frightening, right, which
means that we wanted to as a culture, like they're
they're doing this for a reason. They must be selling
so many magazines every time they put that on the
cover that they just feel the need to manifest it.

(54:10):
So that is apparently like one of America's great desires
is seeing Brad Pitt and Jennifer Aniston together again. I
want Brad and Laura Flynn boiled. Yeah right, you've always
said that. I've always been You've always had to how
to spot your bart for them. Yeah. Uh, you probably
help her out, you know. I just went sober, living

(54:32):
his sober lifestyle, doing sober yoga. That's what they're saying,
Like why Jennifer Aniston is so like into him now?
He seems so zen and on the level. But yeah, again,
they're just using very weird things like oh, she's separated
from Justin Throw, which means she has to be having
sex with Brad Pitt. Yeah. Yeah, that's the only that's
the only logical alcome. They will take any any in

(54:55):
they can get any little toe hold they will use.
She could be going to like office depot and like
she bought brass Brad's what is she trying to say?
I'm gonna take your word for it that that is
a thing brass bradsh Isn't that what you put in
like a script? Yeah? Thank you, wow Jack. No, I'm

(55:15):
glad you leave it next week because I can do
I can do my show, Brad talk. Uh. And then
and then just checking in with Google trends, I noticed
that one of the top searches from the past five weeks,
so all of them makes sense, was like flor school shooting.
You know, different celebrities who have been making news lately.
Number four and five are referencing that Sylvester Stallone is dead. Uh,

(55:39):
and he's not. So I don't know if if people
saw that, just be aware that that that is a fake.
Stallone starts that room where were um? I mean the
photos they used were awful, Like he does not look good?
Are there just terrible photos from the past. I mean

(56:00):
I think they might be him in a role because
they have pictures of him looking you know, his brows
and like his like face. Yeah, it looks like he's
an old age makeup Oh really yeah he needs old
age makeup, right, Yeah man, I mean on that human
growth hormone. That has to be bad for you, right, No,

(56:20):
taking all that human growth hormone. No, steroids are good
for you, man. They just make you strong, right, isn't
that They make you strong forever? Bet never never, nothing
ever goes back. Oh yeah yeah yeah, head bigger yeah
yeah yeah yeah yeah, come on, that would be frightening.
That would be a reason not to do hum. Like
I'm already constant in my head that if I felt
it getting like bigger, that would be for right, often

(56:44):
have giant heads, right, that's true. Yeah, that is one
thing you learned in Los Angeles is but celebrities, like
the number one thing that you have to be is
just giant headed. Your head needs to be big because
apparently they photographed better or something, I guess. So my
friend Jane always tells me that, and I'm like every
time I keep noticing giant headed. Yeah yeah, my uncle

(57:05):
should be a celebrity then, because he's Bruce Willis. You
know what's size? Fitted? How he worse? Was that eight
and a half really is that big? Yeah? I mean
people average around like seven and three a seven quarter.
You don't buy that many fitted hats. All right, Well
for the baseball out there. Uh, Brian, it's been a pleasure.
Thank you so much for having me so much for
doing this. Where can people find you? Follow you? They

(57:27):
can follow me on Twitter. I go buy Kylie noodles. Kylie.
It's well, Conan makes fun of me, so that's what
it started from. It was a skinny leg griff from
Conan that became a thing. So they can follow me
on Twitter. I guess. Yeah, great, So you're not at
Kylie Jenner. I've been ordered by the court not to be.
Uh well, we gotta fight the good fight. Miles. Where

(57:51):
can people find you? You can find me next week
posting the Daily Zeitgeist with special guests. Yeah. If you
calling me on Twitter and it's Graham at Miles of Great,
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have website daily z guys dot com where we post

(58:12):
our episodes and foot note footnote we link off to
the sources for these things we talked about. Uh, and
that's gonna do it for this week and me for
a whole week. Miles will be back on Monday. Just
toss over the keys, daddy O. Alright, want to take
us out? Why don't you take us out today? Let's
go out on a nice Brazilian song by Wilson Smonal

(58:35):
called nim them cannelt him. I just got a good vibe.
I first heard it in the movie City of God,
which is a great film. This is if you remember,
it's in a scene when knockout ned like starts robbing
banks and ship. Uh and also in a very great
Ronaldinho commercial for Nike. Anyway, I'm done plugging that, but yes,
check out this song by Wilson siman Off. All right,

(58:55):
and Miles and co. Will be back Monday. Talk to
you guys. Then he will not make goodbye name, thank
you no day name, thank your god fulge. This Tanul
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(59:41):
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got my feel for the word, And give I seel
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