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May 6, 2019 58 mins

In episode 385, Jack and Miles are joined by comic artist Kim Winder to discuss which scam you are based on your sign, Bill and Chelsea Clinton's new podcast, how angry pilots for the Navy to stop dismissing possible UFO sightings, Elizabeth Warren coming out with a plan for debt relief in Puerto Rico, baby gifts by Oprah, the right's Daily Show, and more!

FOOTNOTES:

1. Which Scam Are You According To Your Sign?

2. Bill and Chelsea Clinton announce podcast launch for summer

3. How angry pilots got the Navy to stop dismissing UFO sightings

4. Navy: No release of UFO information to the general public expected

5. My plan to provide comprehensive debt relief to Puerto Rico

6. Oprah's Extravagant Baby Gifts Are A Bold Power Move

7. Pro-Trump TV Channel OAN Has a Comedy Show So Terrible It Might Actually Be Funny

8. WATCH: Connan Mockasin & Andrew VanWyngarden - Bad Boys (Official Audio)

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season eighty one, episode
one Day Night Guys production of My Heart Radio. This
is a podcast where we take a deep dive into
America's share consciousness and say, officially, off the top buck
coke industries and bucket boxing news is all of them.

(00:22):
It's Monday, May six. Team. My name is Jack O'Brien,
a K three kids in a trench coat at the
movie theater attempting to buy tickets to see Pooty Tank
for some reason. That aka is courtesy of see News
measles Yacht, Yeah exactly, shout up to name and I'm
thrilled to be joined. Dads always buy My co host,

(00:43):
Mr Miles, wake up, grab your geezer, put a little
Greg up. Why do you leave the wheat up on
the table? Here you go greeting another project. Why do
you lead a wheat up on the table you want
to do? Okay? So that was chop Suey and I
could have kept going, but I felt bad because I
didn't have an instrumental and I respect Surge and the
rest of the system of a Down Toxicity just a

(01:06):
side note, I think is one of the greatest albums
of all Yeah. I'm putting it out there. I really
love toxicity. You can get fronted back, uh and really
put me onto a lot of ship in a time
when I was only seem to wrap. So thank you
to that. And that one, of course comes from ad Soltist.
What we are throwed to be joined in our third
seat by the hilarious and talented comics artist Kim Winder

(01:31):
Kim the first time long time. Yeah, we just found
out and you're not lying. A gang tattoo did ruboff,
but we'll still call it a tattoo, going and get
it back on my butt cheeks and you're even letting
us see it. Ah. Yeah, and you are the author
of the drawing of me with high nipples shoulders, the

(01:54):
viral image, Yes, the viral image. Oddly enough, you are
also wearing a v neck today. Was for this Yeah, yeah, okay,
see my nipples aren't that high and in the middle
of my chest. Yeah, they're not on my neck and
I just exchanged it. Okay. Uh, well they're fine, and

(02:18):
there's a normal number of them too. Uh. We're gonna
get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
we're gonna tell our listeners a few of the things
we're talking about today. We're gonna check in with a
Is this like a chart that tells you which scam
you are according to fire sign? It's like a fun
fun quiz fun quiz from l dot com. All right,

(02:40):
we're gonna talk about a famous pervert who has launched
a podcast with his daughter called why Am I telling
you this? Uh? Well, am I telling you this? Yeah?
We're gonna talk about how the Navy has started allowing
pilots to report UFOs, which is a new thing apparently

(03:01):
because they're seeing so many of them. It's sort of terrifying.
How we're gonna talk about Elizabeth Warren. Uh, your dad's
least favorite political candidate, but one of our favorites. She's
up there, she's doing it. We're gonna talk about jobs
you can get without a bachelor's uh and where to
go to find them. Amazon being the new version of

(03:25):
your local news, making the world in your direct neighborhood
seems scarier than it actually is. Oprah's ability to give
baby shower gifts, Uh, pretty good. You won't be surprised.
But Kim first, what is something from your search history
that's revealing about who you are uh. Recently, I looked
up Bloody Mary's for a comic at sleepovers. I don't

(03:51):
know if you guys still have them. I just have
one last night. Okay, when you go to the bathroom,
turn out the light and you say bloody Mary three times,
and she's supposed up here. So I wanted to use
the idea for a comic, But the Internet loves to
tell you when you're wrong, and so I just wanted
to google it and make sure I was right, but

(04:11):
then went down a terrible rabbit hole of the actual
Bloody Mary Queen Elizabeth the First her sister who just
slaughtered Protestants left and right. Yeah, so not that cool. No, No,
what was the thing you were trying to get right
about Bloody Mary? Like just the mechanics of how blood

(04:31):
the bloody Mary? Yeah? Yeah, like my sleepovers, it was
turned out the light had a flashlight, and then spin
around three times and say it. But I didn't know
if that was like my hometown version of it versus
how you're supposed to do it and then get all
the comments back like no, no, you did it wrong.

(04:52):
Shout out to all the little kids who got too
scared out of sleepover and whose parents had to come
pick them up like late at night, and then they
would be forever shamed at school. They're like, fool didn't
make it through the sleepover pro because it's too scared.
I did that a bunch when I was like at
my first sleepover when I was like four or five,
well four or five. Yeah, it was just at like
a single friend's house, and he was younger than me,

(05:14):
and he also left when he tried to sleep over
in my house, so it was all right, younger than you.
So you're hanging out with three year olds as a
four year old? Yeah, I guess so, or no, I
guess I was five and he was four or something
like that. Still provocative, yeah, uh and yeah, so I
didn't get made fun of at school for it, is
my point. Yeah. I remember I had to sleep over

(05:35):
party and I'm not gonna say who, but I believe
this one kid pete in my bed because he didn't
have a sleeping bag, so he slept in my bed.
Uh and pete my bed? Really? Yeah? I mean, what
how could there be any confusion about that? Was there?
Because my mom was like trying to I think, like
keep me because I'm you know, I'm an only child,
and like a six year old only child is a

(05:57):
fucking just a nightmare of human Like the idea of
some fuck face pissing my bed. I think she was like,
he's not going to handle that. And then I remember
my mom was like, pete on it. No, no, she
was acting like I couldn't sleep in it. She's like no,
hold on, hold on, was like what is going on?
And she was like changing the sheets and stuff. And
then someone was like, I think dot dot dot pet

(06:20):
your bed. Wow, that's terrible. I think that means it's
his bed though, right according to the kingdoms I've been in.
How you let the world know. I know we're still
paying all those fees from all What is something you
think is overrated? Um, just gonna come in hot and

(06:43):
say p o V porn, po V porn. Yeah, it
just one. It's disrespectful to the partner. I don't want
a camera in my face. Your dick's already in me.
Let's let's get to the moment. And then as a viewer,
you get a eight angle and then they fucking move
and I'm looking at the guy's chest or at the

(07:05):
bed sheet. It's like homemade porn where it's like the
person is not very skilled at doing the camera work,
not at all. You can tell they're enjoying it, but
I'm not enjoying it. If you're going to upload it,
I want to be able to enjoy what I'm viewing,

(07:25):
and I can't do like browsers or just porn that
scripted because it's just too fake. You can enjoy. Nobody
got brawsers money, even though wealth. You don't have Brawser's money.
Bank bros. I don't know. Yeah, bang rows, Mofo's they're
all out there on your booty. Go on, you would

(07:52):
make you cry? Is that right? So yeah? There you
know what's your What is your for? Meth of I
guess type of cinematography for a scene really just just
have a good angle and stick the camera there and
go at it. Like multiple cuts? Are you like a

(08:13):
one locked off shot? You know, multiple cuts would be preferred.
Like if you're going to take the time to upload
it to the internet, just put out your best work.
What do you think about the new like the wave
of porn that's like just about like pure passion and
it's just like very softly lit and it looks like
a soap opera, but people be like making out hardcore.

(08:33):
The people seem convincingly in love with one of ye,
because that's a holy genre obviously. Like every time on
the front page of any of these sites, it's always
like step sister, keep a secret, and you're like, what
the who the fund is that for? Like why am I?
But then there's the other ones where I'm seeing more
of the just the passionate ones, and maybe people are

(08:54):
like they've gotten so cynical with their porn that they're like,
I just want to see love again. Yeah, like X
rated the notebook scene where they actually went through with it. Uh,
that's that's fine. It really depends on my mood. But
really specifically by the way the ferris wheel seeing from
the notebook, so it's very acrobat ye kind of impressive. Yeah,

(09:17):
you know that handstand was great. It's yeah, so POV
porn it's it's overrated its time. Yeah, it's great, and
I think probably from a guy's perspective, it's a bit
more enjoyable, right, But is there a p o V
porn from a woman's perspective, which is some dude sweating
on you? Yeah, just like over top of that's just

(09:40):
scary interesting. Yeah, and then you know cow girl style,
you want a grip thing, so I can't hold a
camera unless I get like something on my head and
go prol that's what they do. Is that what they're
doing that seems like what they should be doing, right, Well,
sometimes you don't see ones where you see both arms
and you're like, okay, so there's using some kind of
rig Yeah, the time for there just like top just

(10:03):
just like over like hand on the doude shoulder. Like.
I would be more interested to see photos of them
doing that than the porn itself, and then the porn.
I would watch the behind the making of POV points.
That would be really fun. Actually, the making of all
homemade porn is probably more interesting than because it involves,

(10:24):
like the conversation, no one has the proper quick up
at it. Yeah, probably better camera. How do we get
the camera to stay there? I don't put a book
underneath it tilted in a tripod um reverse cow girl
po V porn from the woman's perspective is just the

(10:47):
oh I think you just yeah, like toneails are dirty?
I got a dirty tone nails? What is uping? You
think is underrated? Uh in suss, No, I'm kidding. That's
step step mother. Actually. Uh, Stephen King the author, not
King hard at g but the author, not the racist.

(11:12):
That would be very interesting. Yeah, But I think people
ship on him a lot third act problems. People always
point out he doesn't know how to end a story
or whatever that and then because of his genre is
a lot of horror, and he does do some weird stuff.
But we got the shining, we have Pet Cemetery, we

(11:34):
have uh, these really really great novels from him, and
people just think he's a trash author or maybe a
just a paperback nothing special. He's not the Mark Twain
of our time. But I think he's giving me. Yeah,
he's given us a lot of ideas, and a lot
of people just base his stuff off the movies they see.

(11:56):
And it's so hard to translate a Stephen King novel
into a film like Pet Cemetery. I don't think it
did very well. I didn't see it the first one,
the first one, and then they just did a remake, right,
which was like a Netflix or no, it was full theater. Uh.
But how do you translate the loss of a small

(12:17):
child and dealing with that grief visually when you really
got to describe it in depth, and he does that
very well, right, And I think if you did it
in a way that honored his text like them, films
would be too intense for people to even watch. Like, yeah,
I the first part where the person lost a child,
I was already checked out because oh yeah, so like

(12:38):
you lose your kid and then you're grappling with your
mental health and you're literally selling your soul to bring
him back any way you can, and just it's deep
and dark, and he's very good with these big overall themes.
He does muddle the plot at times in certain books,
but like pet Cemetery my favorite. I read it cover

(13:01):
to cover in one night and I could not fucking sleep.
I was terrified. So I think he should be appreciated
more for his work and then judging him off the films. Yeah,
what's the one? What's the Stephen King film that you
felt did the book? The source material? Justice? Uh? The
Green Mile was pretty good. Interesting that didn't come out

(13:23):
in one single novel. I believe he did it in
like exerts, you know, sections, but that was pretty serialized.
There we go. He wrote that well, and they translated well,
you also have a great cast like Tom Hanks, how
do you suck that up? Right? And it is peaked
Tom Hanks Like the thing that his career has all

(13:44):
been going towards. This is something I pointed out and
a crack podcast is he always likes to pee, like
have like p thing. There's a lot of there's a
lot of peeing Forrest Gump. I gotta go p uh.
There's like peeing scene. That's how he gets away from
the weird people in the bourbs is He's like pretends
he has to go pee. He gets piste on by

(14:05):
the house in the money money pit. Like his whole
career is just like in and cast Away. He just
there's a scene where he like the one thing that
wouldn't be you wouldn't have a question about it is
like where do you pee on this desert island? But
they make a point of showing him pe uh, Like
in the Ocean Apollo thirteen, there's a big scene where

(14:29):
he peas and it like gets shot out into space.
Oh whoa yeah so and then the Green Mile I
think is the culmination of all this. His character has
an issue peeing, So his character central conflict is kidney
stones or something. Yeah, and crotch grabbed yeah, Trump style

(14:52):
Yeah yeah. Wow. Could you imagine him in Tarantino together?
It would just be pissing of feet. Yeahs on his feet, Tom. Yeah.
My least favorite thing about Stephen King is that he
doesn't like the movie The Shining, which I just can't
get over that. Have you read the book? Uh? No?

(15:12):
Broad Yeah, pass the ball right back to have you read?
It's two separate things. Like I could go on about
like Stephen King and Mark Hamill forever, just because I
feel like they're so underappreciated for just their works in general.
But The Shining is totally different from the book and

(15:33):
the movie, and it's a deeper, darker a lot of
that mental stuff that I was saying earlier, it's just
it's hard to translate. It's darker than the movie. Yeah, jesus, um,
have you read All That You Love Will Be Carried Away?
His short story. It's like non horror, and it's just
like he was like, I'm going to write one of
these New Yorker short stories and it's fucking fantastic. It's

(15:56):
just like completely completely nailed it. But yeah, he's he's
like one of our great authors that probably down the
road people will be like, yeah, he was not just
a genre artist. He was like a great American author.
I think so. Yeah, I think you're right. Um, what
is a myth? What's something people think is true? You know,
to be false people from the Disney marketing and advertising

(16:21):
our normal humans, that's what people think that they are
not there, probably psychopaths. They just they know how to
target your most vulnerable, nostalgic thoughts as a kid, a family,
growing up in general, and they will pinpoint it and

(16:44):
just take you down. And I don't hate them for it.
I would love to know how they work on the inside.
But yeah, they're not normal. They tend to get people
to buy their stuff. They're they're pretty good at that. Um,
what is there a particular moment like it does seem

(17:06):
in retrospect cruel that they killed Bambi's mom, like because
that is a movie four Children, It was like thet
It's like damn man, I couldn't. Yeah, no, that's like
a real I mean, and that expands to all Disney movies.
Like all Disney movies the parents are dead or gone
or just don't exist. And I mean that's part of

(17:29):
the joy of like watching them as a kid is like,
whoa what if me home alone type thing? You know,
what if I was in charge? But yeah, home alone? Yeah?
Have you seen the Like it's like a how to
draw a Disney character guide from like back when Disney

(17:51):
was around Walt Disney, And it's just all these like
little tricks that it's like the big eyes are playing
on the fact that, like our brain is hacked to
see baby is as beautiful and like, oh yeah, the
first the only thing that never grows in human is
like the eyes, so they're like huge wing or a baby.
And so they're just like it's all these things that
like they knew he knew about like how the human

(18:13):
mind worked that he's just like laying out fuck up man. Yeah,
so they know how to target you and get you
to buy whatever they need you to buy and what
they're going on a hundred years now yea, and ship
some dark stuff in the in the history. Uh. And

(18:34):
fortunately they're not litigious at all, so we can say
whatever we want about them. They're usually very understanding. I'm
an annual pass holder and I have the I have
them tattooed on my body, so please forgive me. You
have the marketing people, you know, she has the ap
sticker people have with the Mickey head and a I
have a hidden Mickey tattoo. Oh that's cool. Yeah, right

(18:54):
next to the zeitgeist. Well all right, let's get into
talking about our signs. Yeah, let's get personal. So, and
you sent this in their threat huh, like the L
dot com article produce her Ana? Yes, so she sent
in our group thread. We she was just like, there's
this l dot com thing that says which scam are

(19:16):
you according to your sign? And this just seems like stupid,
buff fun because we like a scam here and I
am down with the astrology. Sorry. Oh, I guess it
first came from a Lacey Moseley, which brought it to
Anna's attention, which then trickled its way to our text.
I mean when when I clicked on it, I was
surprised it wasn't written by Lacy. Yeah, exactly. And then

(19:37):
her Venmo attested at the bottom because it is which
scam are you according to your sign? Uh? It's like,
and I'll tell you behind this paywall with you, Kim,
what's your sign? I am a libra? You are a libra,
which would make you the Anna del Vi a k
A an A Sorkin. This scam has all the elements
that would appeal to luxury loving libras, high fashion, fabulous friends,

(19:59):
all the way down to the party girl herself. Anna,
who is originally from Russia, tricked hotels, businesses, and friends
out of at least two d seventy dollars by posing
as a German heiress. She's currently undergoing trial where she
fases up to fifteen years in prison, but continues to
amaze this with her style. Okay, that's on brand. We're
in a nice little frock today or what do you
call this thing? I don't even know the words I'm using.

(20:20):
I don't know. It's cute, it's nice, but really like
I tricked you guys into thinking I'm talented in here
are you? Damn Jack? You're Leo I am, and that's
we'll leave it there. You are college. You are college
and missions hoax. Wow. Leo's are the ultimate performers and

(20:44):
for them all the world. Not only were two high
profile actresses, Lord Laughlin and Felicity Hufman caught at the
center of this game, they helped others act their way
through the college admissions process. According to sources, the two
help celebrities children. Okay, whatever, we get that. I mean,
I'm just your stereotypical theater kid, you know, just overly dramatic,
will break into song every once in a while. Uh No,

(21:07):
I am like the anti Leo Leo. Like I, I
don't really have the personality traits of a Leo, Like,
aren't Leo is like strong and domineering. Yeah, and like
very much like hey, look at me, Leo just pulled up. Yeah,
and I usually crawl into rooms so that people can't
see me. Yeah right, yeah, and then just like kind

(21:28):
of slowly, You're kind of like Buster Bluth right, yeah, exactly.
Never I've neither seen nor heard. Yeah, but the college
emissions hoax, I mean yeah, I could see myself getting
pulled into that. I don't think I would have thought
of that, but I could be. I could see like that,
we have your kids rowing right now, yeah, exactly know,
but like your love for you, it's basically exploiting your

(21:50):
love for your child, like and also a superficiality, which
I guess I hope I don't have, but you know
that V thank you. See we're seeing it was superficient.
You care, You definitely care. You're trying to trying to
show off that chest for her, uh and for me

(22:12):
Virgo Frank abcnail, which I liked, damn well, of course
I see why you want to change God Like I
didn't even look. I just I literally just looked at
the meticulous shadiness. Jesus Christ just starting that undertaken by
Frank abcnail made infamous and catch me if you can
is exactly the kind of scam that would excite detail

(22:33):
oriented Virgo's Frank was one of the first check forgers
and reported the past two and a half million dollars
of phony checks in every US state in twenty six countries.
Virgos are known for their ability to fly under the radar.
Are under the radar. They called me the stealth bomber. Yeah,
thank you, DJ dan all by the way, it has

(22:54):
been producing the podcast and uh, I'm not gonna say
that wasn't a warranted bomb drop, because it was. But
he you'll you'll notice the bomb drops are pretty aggressive.
They're they're all over. The last episode was pretty heavy.
He's a DJ Horns, Was mine not as like good? Then?
Is he just throwing this stuff away. I don't know,

(23:16):
you know, I pay him on the side to give
me more drops, so kind of a unspoken thing. And Anna,
what's yours? Your Gemini? You're the Gemini, So that would
make you the Russian trolls during the election. Gemini represents journalism,
facts and communication on the Russian fake social media as okay,
perfect storm of all these things. Good for you. So
you were just a bunch of scammers in here there.
And I'm trying to look at like which would be

(23:37):
the worst one. I mean, probably college admissions scandal would
be the worst one. And it's like others. I guess
catfishing isn't great, but at least like they're successful at
what they do, where his college emission scandal just sucks.
And for those interested, aries is fire festival, Toruses, detox
t cancer is Gypsy Rose Blanchard and d D player

(24:00):
shard uh Libra already did that one. Scorpio Dr John
mehan ak a dirty John Sagittarius, Nigerian Prince scam Capricorn
Bernie made off Aquarius there as that would have been
kind of chill Pisces catfishing. So yeah, so it's interesting
that you wanted to do this article that makes me
the worst scam and you the Michael Jordan of scamming.

(24:22):
It's interesting, you know, I think it's fair. Yeah, and
look that's just my fucking shifty Virgo waves bro walked
right into the trap. Catch me if you can. All right,
we're gonna take a quick break. We'll be right back.

(24:46):
And we're back. And so is Bill Clinton back on
these air waves? Uh, he's coming in. He has a podcast.
He's not going to appear on this podcast, as he promised.
That would be wild if we could get Bill Clinton
on this. He has launched. Yeah, just be like, yo, man,
the greatest way to promote your podcast cross man. Uh

(25:07):
and hopefully it doesn't know that I introduced the segment
by saying, famous pervert launches podcast with daughter. Yeah. That
that just bothers me that it's called Why am I
telling you this? Because it's it implies like dad having
like some sort of like oversharing. Yeah, oversharing, but like

(25:29):
we know he is the oversharing podcast with Mr Secrets, Right.
I like sitting with my shoulders up cringing for a
half hour. So I think this could be very success.
You're gonna love this. What's the premise of the pot, Like,
what's the whole idea? But it's him talking to chelseh Man. Yeah,

(25:49):
you're sparkle blo. Your mother was a real tigger when
she was young. Anyway, did I tell you about this
affair exactly? You want to see some pov born Oh dude, Dad, Okay,
why am I telling you? Why are we telling anybody
about this? I don't know. It just bugs me, creeps
me out. Let's talk about what I think would be

(26:11):
front page news if the media was not biased against
UFO stories. But all right, so we've talked before about
these Navy videos that were released that showed a tic
tac uh like flying object that looked like a tic
tac that was making all sorts of maneuvers in the
air that seemed impossible, and you have, you know, pilots

(26:33):
in the background being like that isn't possible. Wait what's
it doing now? And then it like just zips off
and they're like, holy shit, moving in ways like our
our current technology as we know it could not explain.
So I'm just gonna kick this latest article off with
a straight read of the opening of this article, which
is in some bullshit conspiracy rag called the Washington Post. Alright,

(26:58):
so it opens up. A recent uptick in sightings of
unidentified flying objects or is the military calls them unexplained
aerial phenomena prompted the Navy to draft formal procedures for
pilots to document encounters, a corrective measure that former officials
says long overdue. As first reported by Politico, these intrusions
have been happening on a regular basis since two thousand fourteen,

(27:19):
so that's UFOs flying into military airspace. Recently, unidentified aircraft
have entered military designated airspace as often as multiple times
per month, Joseph Gratisher, spokesperson for Office of the Deputy
Chief of Naval Operations for Information Warfare, told The Washington
Post on Wednesday, citing safety and security concerns. Gradisher vowed

(27:40):
to investigate each and every report. He said, we want
to get to the bottom of this. We need to
determine who's doing it, where it's coming from, and what
their intent is. We need to try to find ways
to prevent it from happening again. Oh man, do you
think this escalates to you know, next time you see
one of the shoot at the funk down. I think
they probably would have already done that if the thing

(28:00):
didn't wasn't faster than our aircraft or any known aircraft.
And they're like, I can't get a heat signature on
it because it's like cold as ice and is moving
in ways you don't know. I mean, I like to
know that there are more of these things happening. I
mean it adds mystery to the universe. I'm all about mystery.
Uh like that makes the world more interesting. It's just

(28:24):
they like I always assumed they knew something and weren't
telling us, and it seems like they were just two
stodgy to acknowledge the thing that we all kept like
having like little trace evidence of. They were just like, fine,
I guess we'll acknowledge that they're these things that, by
the laws of physics as we know them, don't make

(28:46):
any sense. I just think aliens are getting really bad
at VOI aircorn right. Sorry, they're just trying to flex
on airspace and I welcome our alienal for lords with
open arms. Well, I mean they seem to be like
piste off and thinking that it's something like being made

(29:10):
by like other security like forces or other countries, Um, right,
because you don't want to just be like, yeah, man,
we gotta do some about these fucking aliens, because you
can't up to that conclusively. And I don't think the
military mind is necessarily constructed to make room for aliens, right,
Like the whole thing is, you know, country verse country warfare,

(29:30):
nation verse nation More from the article. In some cases, pilots,
many of whom are engineers and academy graduates, claim to
observe small spherical objects flying in formation. Others say they've
seen white tic tac shaped vehicles. Aside from drones. All
engines rely on burning fuel to generate power, but these
vehicles all had no air intake, no wind, and no exhaust.

(29:54):
It's very mysterious, and they still seem to exceed our
aircraft and speed, he said, calling it a true lee
radical technology. That's Chris Melon, by the way, a former
Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence and Staffers. UM
so he's these are official, Like these are official Pentagon
dudes just being like, yeah, so UFOs are real. They're

(30:17):
doing things that aren't physically possible. We don't know what
to tell you. I would just love like I was
telling you earlier that we're so behind in science that
like other countries, I've just figured out new forms of
propulsion and which here like fucking aliens. I think probably
there's another way to explain this, because we're number one forever. Yeah,
other dude who used to run the a t i P,

(30:39):
which was the twenty two million dollar Advanced Aerospace Threat
Identification Program which ran from UH two thousand seven to
two thousand twelve, and you know, used military technology and
military personnel to investigate these things. So you're you're kind
of hoping he like has insight and is like, well,

(31:01):
we have theories that aren't as interesting as the theories
you have, or aren't as scary at least. Here's a
quote from him. If I came to you and said,
there are these things that fly over our country with impunity,
defying the laws of physics, and within moments could deploy
a nuclear device at will, that would be a matter
of national security. And he just seems like this type

(31:23):
of activity is very alarming, and people are recognizing their
things in our aerospace that lie beyond our understanding. That's
the dude who like this is fucking bonkers and like
it does seem like it should be front page news.
But there's like a seriousness bias, I guess. So it's

(31:44):
just like a thing that I mean, it's even surprising
that the Washington Post is acknowledging it. I mean, look,
let's uh, let's us share in the new era where
we're like, yeah, man, we got these ships flying around. Uh,
we really can know one knows what they are and
maybe we need to put some serious effort into understanding it.

(32:05):
Or so maybe it's mass hallucinations. I don't know, guys,
what's real anymore. So they just got to clean off
the windshield a little bit better that you see in
your eye. Somehow, the cameras are seeing them too, and
so are the radar. Sorry, I'm like very serious about this, guy,
I'm like, shut up. So the big kind of change

(32:30):
that is being reported in this Queston Post article is
that there's now an official way for naval personnel to
report these things and that will officially be on the record. Uh,
and the Navy, you know, it raised a bunch of
interest in those official reports in the Navy was quick
to announce that there will be an open source database
where anyone can log on and find out all the

(32:52):
real time information there is to know about all of
the sightings. Nope, Actually they're announcing they won't be sharing
any of that information with the public because fuck all
of you. Um So, even though they don't have a
better explanation and have no idea what's going on, they're
just like, sorry, it's secret. Well, this is a good

(33:13):
way to start it. If we can't track it, if
we can't like break it down, at least we can
have the reports and say, oh, this tictac and this
tictak did this zig zig zag and run off that way,
so we can build the data. Like, I'm not opposed
to the belief of UFOs being aliens. Yeah, And I
don't think the US is so far backwards that we're

(33:35):
so behind on technology that we can think yeah, so
it's just more for comedic effect. I think, yeah, No,
we're backwards in a lot of ways. Yeah, it would
be like in script The Future of America, where like
Americans are so confused, man, and we're gonna blow everything up.
But yeah, like you're saying, it seems like we should

(33:57):
be using like putting all of the nation together, like
all of the eye witness accounts, and you know have
some X files out there. Maybe they do and we
just don't know about them. Probably, but it's good to
know that we have something started so we can learn
from it slowly, gradually and maybe get better in time.
What I'm gonna say is this is great marketing for

(34:19):
tic TACs. Okay, I mean talk about the Disney marketing people.
Tic Tac is fucking crushing it. But they should make
Alien tic TACs limited edition. Well all right, so now,
and I guess less important news because all persons would
be less important. Uh. Elizabeth Warren seems to be actually
gaining momentum in the election. The latest polls have her

(34:43):
uh kind of going forward into third place and some
of them in second place behind. Right. Yeah, so you know,
we've been kind of saying, why isn't Elizabeth Warren doing better?
She's actually like putting out all these really int resting,
thoughtful policy positions. Uh, and it seems like maybe she's

(35:05):
starting to pick up traction by just announcing reasonable, smart,
brilliantly thought out policy one after another. Yeah, she's like, hey,
canceling soon, debt You're good? Uh? Hi, are we concerned
with African women's African American women's maternity care. Okay, good
y'all okay, and now Puerto Rico. Yeah, it's like she's

(35:26):
trying to be fucking president. What's her deal? But look
she her most recent uh plans she unveiled on medium,
so youthful UM was just basically to like, really take
a look at Puerto Rico's recovery and more specifically their
debt because that's the biggest thing that's holding the territory

(35:46):
behind UM And in this really uh well well written
post on medium, she was saying it wasn't just the
Trump administration's In that response, though, one of the biggest
constraints holding back the recovery has been Puerto Rico's debt.
Revenue needed to provide services to residents is instead going
to pay off old debts, with few investors UH unwilling

(36:06):
to put money into rebuilding Puerto Rico with its massive
debt overhang because they see no clear path to earning
a return on their investment. And so there was a
bill that was uh like created called Promessa that she
voted against. UH that was gonna be handling the way
the the way the debt was going to be handled.
UM and her whole point is like, look, if Puerto Rico,

(36:27):
like she says, quote, we're a big company in this
kind of financial trouble, it could file for bankruptcy, pay
some of its debts, discharge the rest, then start rebuilding.
If Puerto Rico were an American city in this kind
of financial trouble, it could do the same. But because
Puerto Rico isn't a corporation or city, because of its
unique status, those legal options aren't available. So it's caught
in a terrible position. So her whole deal is like, Okay, great,

(36:48):
let's begin to figure out how we can cancel this
debt move forward. And then one of the biggest things
is that like a lot of the people who hold
the debt of Puerto Rico are in these like vulture funds,
and they quote by debt of a barrow in trouble,
usually for pennies on the dollar, and then pick the
bones clean when the borrower can't pay. So in this one,
it means that Wall Street investors get more money by

(37:09):
slashing services and selling government assets and things like that.
And the way the promiss of bill is set up,
it's prioritizing that Puerto Rico payback its debt holders first,
rather than actually putting money back into the territory. So
it's like there's it's just a fucking black hole and nothing.
They can't there's no way for us to actually dignifiably
treat this debt and help the people of Puerto Rico Americans.

(37:34):
It's just a functionally, it's just a way to funnel
money to Wall Street. Yeah, essentially, and that's why she's
also on top of that once an audit of Puerto
Rico's debt to be like how did we get here?
Because wants to make sure nothing on toward was happening,
which it absolutely was. So uh you know, hey, wow,
look at that somebody uh good idea and like really

(37:56):
kind of looking at an issue like Puerto Rico too,
to help understand, you know, why it's in the place
it is and it's not just sort of like they're
asking for too much money. You already saw my j
was wetty with the paper towels. I think she really
has her pulse or has the pulse of what's going
on with millennials and most Americans right now because debt

(38:19):
is fucking everything. So she had my attention with student
debt forgiveness. I'm in the hole and it's going to
be with me for a long as time. So by
her hitting the point with Puerto Rico, I think that's
awesome just because it does give a viable solution and

(38:41):
bringing to light the shadiness of possible government functions. That's
everything I think. Yeah, that's everything that people want right now.
We want to know what the fun is going on
with the government and how the fund can I get
out of debt? So she she's starting early driving at home. Yeah,

(39:01):
I'm paying more attention to her now rather than Beto,
who's standing on tables. Yeah. Yeah, he's so good at
doing that there, he is pro at standing on tables.
He's the he's the one person who's i mean not
the only person. But he seems to have fallen the
furthest from uh, you know, early days when he first
announced to where he's at now, he's just not really

(39:23):
saying anything that's well. I think maybe because he's he's
doing less like nationally visible stuff and he's really just
focusing on turning out these like primary states, you know,
like the caucus, because in New Hampshire and Iowa, seems
like he wants to just make sure those people understand
him first to try and rather than doing the kinds
of things that are making the headlines that everyone's going

(39:43):
to talk about. But we'll see. I mean, I think
he's a bit green behind the ears, Like he was
our hero against Ted Cruz, so that's how he got
his platform. Good for him for fucking hustling. And I
don't think he'll make it far this campaign, but he
has the right mindset. I think, yeah, yeah, yeah, I will,

(40:06):
I will. I will sit here and watch him evolve. Right,
We're talking off Mike last week about how, uh it
seems like dad's hate Elizabeth Warren or a certain type
of dad hates Elizabeth Warren white sis male dad's over
the age of fifty, um, and like part of it

(40:28):
just seems like generally, you know, internalized misogyny and being
like it's not that I'm a misogynist, it's that her
voice really gets you know, like things like another weird thing.
But I also think there's this like sort of soft,
quiet propaganda campaign that's been going on ever since. So

(40:49):
the way she made her name was by regulating the
banks and bankers fucking hate Elizabeth Warren and for a
certain generation like bankers and like rich Wall Street dudes
are like the peak, like they're who you want to be,
you want to be rich, Like that's I know a

(41:10):
lot of people who took their education and went right
into like hedge funds and just like sucking making as
much money as they can, not like worried about like
where it's coming from. And I think for them, like
there's like the golf course, like oral tradition, like corridor
where people where that like Elizabeth Warren hate is also

(41:32):
coming from, like the like sort of moderate Republican dads
who like don't love Trump, but they also are like
but Elizabeth Warren and Hillary Clinton remind me of a
woman that emasculated me. Yeah right, but yeah, I mean
especially for banks, because she knows the whole game. She

(41:56):
sees the fucking matrix and they're like So the thing
that I think makes her unpopular and hated with a
lot of those people is the thing that is powerful
and you know, should be interesting to people who who
are interested in, you know, things besides how to get
their bank to make more money for them. Right. Um,

(42:17):
you know, the process will continue and we'll see people
will see the field get further and further spread out.
Are you saying that you're going to trust the process? Miles,
I trust the process. Okay. See what annoys me about,
uh the d n C right now is we acted
like we I'm not a part of it, but I
definitely leaned that way. Uh. We acted like Republicans who

(42:38):
said we're going to take back Obamacare and replace it,
and then they had four years and they did ship
and they didn't have anything. We had three years to
come up with some good candidates and good policy and
get everyone up, and now we have like what people ruining.
We didn't do anything. We talked about it too. I

(42:59):
know that in the news they were saying, we gotta
come up with policy, we gotta find someone to put
out there, and it seems like we all just kind
of sat there and yeah, I mean we we have
we have people out there with the good ideas. I
think it's just about that. You know, we have the
media that's moving a lot of opinion too, and they
seem to just really want to push this Biden thing

(43:20):
um and at times like maybe not be fully forthright
with the way they're presenting those facts. Like during to
the media, Biden has already run away with the nomination,
and certainly there's going to be a bias towards like
having a backlash story because that's what keeps people watching.
But right now the story is being covered as though

(43:41):
Biden has like taken taken the thing almost yeah, and
you know, and then and then doing the same thing, like, oh,
we don't want to get too radical, right, we don't
want to get too progressive because you know what will happen.
Let's just John carry it and see what happened. I
think that's definitely true what you were saying about, like
the fact, like Biden doesn't have a policy position that's

(44:02):
like that he's vocalized or like put into words that
is a compelling response to like what Trump has done
or what the Republicans have done. I do think that
there are people, though, like Elizabeth Warren, who've been thinking
about this her whole life because she wanted to be president.
And that's a good thing. You want somebody who's been

(44:24):
from day one been like, yeah, this is how I
would fix the country, or at the very least present.
I mean, like there's just not a world of view
of the future of the country that Biden is presenting
that is going to energize me, you know, aside from
just the well, funk, I'm gonna vote against Trump thing
that you're going to get more people to come out
if you have someone up there who's presenting a vision

(44:45):
of the future that is actually energizing rather than like,
all right, well let's get this other fun guy out
like rather than like, no, this person is actually like
advocating for something that like he's going to affect my life,
is going to affect the lives of people, my family, etcetera,
my community. Now to be Devil's advocate, he does and
really need to do that because one for millennials and younger,

(45:05):
he had some great memes like he can just bask
in the glow of being in popular and then of
course you have Obama. I think you guys did talk
about this Obama heading his ad in the very beginning,
So he doesn't need to put the work out there,

(45:25):
and he can slowly just sit and see how people
respond to what Elizabeth Warren is doing, and then he'll
suddenly be like, I'm actually also very concerned about like
maternity mortality in the hospitals. Now, I mean, this is
how he what he's doing is like what everybody who
is in politics will tell you is the smart thing

(45:46):
to do. What Elizabeth Warren is doing is the exact
opposite of what you're supposed to do, which is you
sit back, wait and see how people feel about other
people's policy positions, and then you like draft off of
that pick and choose your spot and just like don't
say anything that could possibly be controversial in a lead up.
But I think, you know, Elizabeth Warren, out of probably

(46:08):
desperation because she's being overshadowed by a you know, implicitly
misogynist media, like is like, well, here's one way I
can do it by having the best ideas, and that's
somehow working. It'll be interesting. I think her rollout was
just a little shaky that didn't do her any favors.
But so I think now we're starting to see yeah,

(46:29):
and I think, yeah, just the President video wasn't that great,
and people are just kind of like like it didn't
It wasn't like this sort of instant enthusiasm, And I
think now that works, there's some distance between that and
we're starting to see her policy positions and things like that.
Now that's actually helping to elevate her position a little bit. Yeah,
her coming in it was an Instagram story, right how

(46:51):
she announced her candidacy. There was and then there was that.
There was a video too. I mean, I mean there's
probably it's multidimensional. Yeah, but it was just cringe e
and kind of to start. But I don't think it
can get much better unless someone offers like cupcake Wednesdays
two or something like that, free wed Wednesdays. Yeah, I'm
all for it. All Right, We're gonna take a quick

(47:12):
break and we'll be right back. And we're back, and
let's talk about who who would be the ideal person
if you were having a child to to buy a

(47:33):
baby gift for you for me? Who would be like
if this is of talking about how Oprah gives the
best Okay, but no, let me think about Okay if
I aside from Oprah, because I think I actually would
pick Oprah based on her favorite things and ship. I'm like,
yop she knows about technologies and items that are fifty
years in the future are great. Yeah, she was talking

(47:56):
about us really, but like that's that's a kind of wave.
I feel like she's onto Yeah, um yeah, Oprah, maybe
uh tinker Hatfield just because I'm like, yo, just give
me some sneakers, right right this kid? Um? Well, so Oprah,

(48:17):
she's working on a series with future Dad Prince Harry
uh and was asked what her thoughts were on a
baby gift. She said, I have a standard gift that
I do for people that I really care about. So
I don't know the baby's name or the baby's gender,
but this baby will have enough books to last a
lifetime boom. So okay, that's a that's an interesting thing.

(48:40):
But what we want to know a little bit more, Oprah,
would you just given like a fucking lifetime audible subscription? Right? No,
so Mindy Kaling went, she was like a gold subscription
to or six months. Yeah, it's like that doesn't help
my child even be literate, Oprah, who care? Is fine? Um?

(49:01):
So Mindy Kaling on um a Wrinkle in time. When
they were doing press for that, she mentioned the gift
that she had received from Oprah when she had her child,
and the gift was extravagante. Okay, so they said. It
was a hand carved bookshelf engraved with Mindy's daughter's name,
filled with one hundred personalized books, and it was so

(49:22):
large that it had to be delivered in a like
a fucking moving truck. Wow, so damn weird flex Oprah.
But I'm here for it. At the same time, this um,
she does not. She's not very optimistic about how fast
this baby will read, because a hundred books will not

(49:45):
last year time, especially if they're children's books. Maybe unless
it's just like Anna Karinina, like here's a history of
people's history of the United States. Child. What does personalized
books mean? Maybe that they're like the covers are embossed
with the child's name. I thought maybe like, because it's Oprah,
she probably could do this, have every author if they're

(50:07):
still alive, or maybe bring them back from the dead.
It's and sign it to baby love Mark Twain. Yes, yes,
fucking gotta go. Yeah, we're starting our own show called
two people saying the exact same thing at the same
time we speak as one. Yeah. I don't know, I mean, yeah,

(50:30):
I guess personalized or what if she's just changing all
the characters names to them wondering because they're there, So
there are these personalized books that you can get that
the only thing that changes is like the names. It's
about like that your kids, and it's like prisance, we
have Ramsey and Bo go together, like and it's like
a story about Ramsey and Bo playing together and like

(50:51):
learning to be friends and learning to share and stuff.
And it's a great gift. Well shout out to my
friend Dickie who gave that to us, and then we
stole that gift idea and start giving it out. So
there are personalized books that you can get. But I
like rewriting, like literally, yeah, I'm wondering if like it's
just the Barons Stay Bears have been like slightly altered

(51:12):
to like look like the family that she's giving it to.
That would that would have a weird effect on the kid,
because then you go to school, like reading all these books,
you think, wound is this great gas? I thought it's
called the Great Greg please go alright whatever. I'm sure
a lot of people she buys gifts for naming their
kid Greg Kim. It has been such pleasure of having

(51:38):
you here. Where can people find you? You guys can
find me on Instagram and Twitter at the Underscore Underscore
red Dot. I put out comics every fucking day. Read
on uh and they're very funny uh and some are trash.
Some are trash. I was going to say that, but uh,

(51:59):
and is or a tweet or other work of social
media that you've been enjoying. I have two, and I
hope that's okay because one of them is from, uh,
pretty popular person. So the first one is from Karen
killed Garreff from My Favorite Murder. Yeah, but you know

(52:21):
she she's somewhat popular on Twitter. But a tweet that
she had was they refused to chop my wedget salad.
So now I'm just sitting here in a silent hotel room,
sawing away at a quarterhead of Iceberglattus like a goddamn pioneer.
And it's just the visual on that was so true,
so hard to cut. And then another one is from

(52:46):
actually a friend of mine. He does comics as well,
but he wrote, um, one of your balls may hang lower,
but the other one is closer to your heart. And
he's at hot at hot Paper Comics. Right. Uh, Miles,
where can people find? You find me? Follow me on
Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. A tweet I

(53:06):
like is from at cam Rob but it was basically
a screen grab. I don't know if you remember John
Goslin from John and Kate plus eight. Um. But on
his Instagram, this is not even a joke. This has
an Instagram um, and it says this is from over
the weekend. It says Chili Sinco to Mayo Sunday May five,

(53:29):
five pm to nine pm at the Chili's in Why
are missing Pennsylvania. I don't even know if I'm saying
that's that town right with John Goslin and this motherfucker's
d Jane at Chili's in Pennsylvania, John Goss, Remember John
and Kate plus eight that reality showing them people had
all them kids that he's a Chili Sinco de Mayo

(53:52):
d jay now and her thing was just like, well,
I know where I'm watching the Sixers game. Oh man,
It's like it just blew my mind as someone who
watches trash reality face right now. It's perfect, isn't that
just like peak? And it's weird. There's like a logo
that just says like g with headphones on, But I
don't know what that even means. I guess that's just

(54:13):
he's gangster. I mean, look at that DJ Daniel, Yeah shout.
I mean, and you know the sad part is, I'm
thinking he's on Serato, so he kind of respects that
the turntable is. Um. I'm kind of mad. I was
hoping it was C d J's, but he's got like
two twelves and like a rain mixer. Maybe we have

(54:36):
to go to Sinko to Mayo next year or wherever.
J followed John Goslin, Uh, why is he verified? And
I'm not anyway? UM, let's see here. Andy Richter tweeted, guys,
I checked yep, another fucking Monday bread no Hair pointed
out this uh sentence from a opinion piece by Hugh

(55:00):
Hewitt called titled the Election Isn't going to be close,
and he tweeted uh. And Hugh Hewitt wrote, the Green
New Deal sounds like a bad science fair project where
the smart kids got the colors that combine via an
elaborate device and make all the quote lava flow back
down the volcano sides and the village is destroyed. And

(55:23):
Brendan tweeted, I think that this is the least a
sentence has ever made sense. Quite true. Josh Lederman tweeted,
I see the Night King as a metaphor for evil,
and boog at boog tweets tweeted if the inventor of
the four cheese pizza has ever murdered, you can bet
your sweet cheese love and asked, they're gonna question that
three cheese pizza gain? Yeah, yeah, did we already do

(55:46):
that one? I just know, I'm like already already saw
that conspiracy coming man, and uh finally us off Roach
tweeted hilarious that Shaun Kingston had a hit single where
he was just straight up like, y know, this girl
is so am hot, I'm gonna kill myself. What song
is that? Uh? Is a side? Oh? Yeah? Whoa? Yes,

(56:09):
damn you You're so cute? Um more from him? Hey,
we've all been there right. You can find me on
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(56:32):
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we link off to the information that we talked about
in today's episode, as well as the song we ride
out on Miles, what's that going to be? Let's do uh?
A little track by Conen Moccason like I Love This

(56:53):
is a track with him and Andrew Van Wygarden called
Bad Boys the City Some bad I think it's a
pronouncing us actually common. Yeah, Bro, did you open for him?
Is that how the echo? No, it's c O N
n an Okay, damn dude. I thought it was like
c O N I don't come free, Bro. I opened

(57:15):
for con moxon year Gonna go When I was in
a band. Y'all don't know about that. I didn't know
it was actually close to con. I was trying to
make it open um. Then you caught my ego. See
what happened? All right, that's gonna do it for today.
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