Man In The Mirror, GOP Not Anti-Anti-Semitism 3.11.19

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Hello the Internet, and welcome to so leave It. Hello
the Internet, and welcome to season seventy three, Episode one
of John Daily eight Guys, the podcast where we take
a deep dive into America's share consciousness. It's Monday in
March eleven, two thou nine. Team. My name is Jack O'Brien,
a K. O'Brian, do andy thing for love, but I

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won't do Jack And that was cratty a handilt to
be joined as always buy my co host Mr Miles Greg.
This administration is a gang of bulls, Jack O'Brien, I
was a great They bring the new might be crazy,
but it ain't not like this. Ain't ain't say guys,

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thank you too, Damsel disgusted at Damsel disgusted for that
and sinc blah blah bye a k hey, yeah that's good,
thank you. Right. Ninety nine, I don't know, no strings attached?
Was the album? Okay? Maybe maybe I was thinking of
Backstreet with Millennium. Oh wow, let me tell you actually,

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let's actually pull it up. I still got that ninety
nine hangover from our live show. Oh you know what
two thousand, but I suspect maybe that single may have
came out in right, so maybe well we are throwing
to be Joe Day thirty by the hilarious comedian and
performer Mr Eric Lamb. Gentlemen, Hello, Hello, it's good to

(01:41):
be back. It's always going to be back. How have
you been. I'm actually genuinely doing very good. Okay, good.
I remember last time you were sort of in a
bit of an existential fine going through divorce. Yeah, being good.
You can pay taxes to now. Remember also you're like,
I'm not paying my tax Yeah, I don't not paying taxes.
Well I went to see an account and firstly that
my previous account that made mistakes. Actually that's fine, So

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it was I was like, this is too much. But
also I still feel like I don't want to pay
taxes to the country. Got steal skids. It's wait, hey,
look if you if you stand up to this government
and maybe throwing in a tax jail, they might put
your face on a quard or something. Hybe maybe on
the next you know, sort of giving myself to prison

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for the message of still kids over a couple of
thousand dollars. Uh. Eric, it's great to have you back.
We're going to get to know you a little bit better.
In a moment. First, we're gonna tell her listeners a
couple of the things we're talking about today. We're going
to check in with where everyone's at with the cancelation
of Michael Jackson. We're gonna talk about Captain Marvel, which

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blew up over the weekend, even though I didn't really
know that this character existed prior to this movie going
into production. We're gonna talk about Manafort sentence, Facebook and
their relationship to the Trump administration and some of the
people running against him in and we're going to talk

(03:08):
about the fact that you can buy the Mueller Report
preorder now the hottest new book. But first, Eric, we
like to ask our guests, what is something from your
search history that's revealing about who you are? So I've
recently been searching this Spider Man into the spite of
a soundtrack. Wow, Yeah, have you seen the movie first? Like,

(03:28):
I still haven't seen it. I know I should watch it.
I'm gonna watch it this next week because I have
to keep up with the rest of the society. Yes, yes,
you certainly do. Yeah, it's so good. I know that
people were like that was actually probably one of the
best movies of last year, hands down? When when the
when the one the all skills, Like, yeah, I mean
I need to brown kid with superhero powers named Miles.

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Have you not watched it? I know I'm part of me.
I think I'm just gonna get down on myself that
I don't have that kind of power. Yeah, if any
if anything, it's going to give you the power. It's
gonna be. Yeah, I feel like the heroes inside all
of us, right, not kind of vibe. Does he wear
Jordan's in it too? Yeah? There was well, no for

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the real for the real sneaker heads. He's not wearing
the ones I have I have banned bread ones. Okay,
that's a very different one than the Jordan's Spider Verse
ones that people not really fucking with. But I like them.
They're not with them. I mean, this is the deal. Okay.
It's a It's a model off of like the the
kind of Jordan's the retros that he wore like in

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his rookie year, but this one has a little details
like ice soule and like webbing in it. That is
a little bit of a departure from like the O
G style of Jordan's. Not a lesser Jordan, but you know,
I can't. Also ones too narrow for my feet. They're
the only Jordan's that weren't designed by Tinker Hatfield, and
they're they're fine, but they're just it's a dunk. Yeah,
it's just an old school dunk. It's a dunk with

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a little bit of Jordan's wing low go on the tar,
which isn't even Finally fascinating that people are really into shoes, Yeah,
it's it's kind of beautiful to watch. Like when I'm
like driving along fair facts sometimes will be like lines
and lines of people and I used to be like, oh,
are they going to go see a bad thing? Just shoes?
That's for supreme for sure, yes, real, yeah, the real

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robbery is going down. But Eric, can you take a
band with you when you leave the store? Can you
wear a band on your feet? I wear them in
my heart? Is underrated, sir, underrated delaying gratification. I think
people at the moment, especially with our phones, and this
is me as well, this is not like, you know,

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I didn't grow up with phones. Like it's I'm getting
addicted to my phones and I want things now all
the time. Now now now, And so the enjoyment of
just I've recently watched a series which is not amazing,
The Umbrellas Umbrella Academy. Yeah, I'm in the middle of that.
It wasn't amazing enough for me to binge it. So
but then I've watched like one episode a day, and
I almost enjoyed it more than like series that I

(06:04):
do bench because then it's like, oh, I'm just a
little bit young, a little bit, then a little bit
and you get a little time to think about it. Yeah,
I just keep it going. I don't want to think.
I think we've forgotten to do that. Most of us,
we've just we've forgotten to just go. Hey, I'll treat
myself to that tomorrow. Yeah, I'm all about deferred gratifications
just in general. You see the way I eat sometimes,
like the way I'll leave like the perfect bite for

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the very last bite of my meal. Yeah, and that's
what I do. Like that. You know, I've got friends
who I still haven't forgiven him. Really, it's happened. This
has happened seven years ago. I left a beautiful piece
of Portobello mushroom to the side, and as I went
to grab it, he worked away and he ate it
and he laughed, like in my face because he knew.

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He knew that I needed it, and that makes it
worse because he knows what it meant to you. And
he still said watch Eric. So I'm yes, how's that
person doing? Now You're like, I don't know, don't He's
all right, but I will get my revenge. Yeah. Uh so,
you guys, it sounds like you're in different places when
it comes to the Umbrella Academy. You were you were?

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Actually I do like it. I like it, Yeah, I
mean you like it a lot. I yeah, I enjoy it,
but not in this like. But to Eric's point, I'm
not binging it either, So it's not one of the
things that, like I have to keep watching over and over.
But it's good and I think more than anything, it's
sort of reignited my imagination a little bit creatively, because
when I thought about it was like, well, if the
guy from my Chemical Romance could think this up? Yeah,

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can I shout out to whatever like a Gerard Way
or something? Yeah, this good story. I like it. Yeah,
it expands the horizons of all creative kids. Yeah, like
you m what is something you think is overrated? Eric Countries?
I think I'm starting to get done with it, right,

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I'm very thankful that, you know, in my first twelve
years of life, I lived in seven countries. Now I
live here and stuff, and so I'm very lucky that
I get to actually experience life in all the countries,
and all the countries have problems, all the countries of
good things. They've all got racist they've all got lovely people,
and I'm like, let's just open up. I'd like to
just try and experiment where we just open up our

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borders every single country, just to see what happens, because
far borders haven't really worked. So if anything, I'm like,
suck it, let's just open it up. And also, surely,
if you if you look at what's happened in history
and presently and in the future, ultimately we are going
to become just one planet, right, we don't need borders.

(08:35):
Let's just open it Up's free for all. Yeah, confederation,
let's get it done. Also, when you know, when the
ice caps start melting and stuff, that the layout of
the land is gonna look so different. We're gonna have
a mass immigration, make migration everywhere, could be water everywhere, Greek,
you know, Netherlands, Netherlands isn't going to exist anymore and stuff.
I know that's really I know the Dutch are very

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worried about that because they are blue sea level and
they're how do we fix our We're kind of in
a bind here geographically like locks and like all sorts
of oh yeah, like there's a very yeah, like it's
it's pretty remarkable what they've done. Yeah, that's smith. They'll
work it out. And they actually they flooded themselves a
couple of times before in history, during the Spanish War

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that they had whenever this like Spain would come to
attack them, they were like, no, we don't want this land.
We flooded the land because they're better at dealing with
their land flooded. Then I was quite liked. I was like,
that's that's kind of cool. Yeah, that's what I do.
Anytime I think there's a burglar in my house, Just
flood it, just flood it. Just keep flushing the foot
here or something, all the showers going. Shout out to

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William of Orange. I will say open borders versus closed borders.
Open borders have the much better optics like closed borders looks.
If you want a quick way to make your country
look like World War One, go to the boarder where
the most locked down border. It's just all fucking barbed

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wire and people in like gas masks. And are you
saying open border is less scary? Less scary and yeah,
and just knowledge people was ready to live if the
people need opportunity, like are we doing? I know that.
I know that, Like I'm very lucky with my job
that I get to travel and stuff. But you know,
and it's not easy if you want to travel and
you've got two kids and stuff. You know, I appreciate

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that it's difficult for some people. But people need to
get out of their own country the world because and
this is every country, but when they go my country
is the best country in the world, and I'm like, oh, yeah,
where else have you been? I haven't been anywhere else
because it's the best. And I'm like, okay, mate, good data, right,
it's amazing analysis there, right. This pizza is the best.

(10:46):
It's a margarita. Yeah, what else have you tried? If
you tried like a nice vegetarian one or supreme No,
I don't need what's that? Yeah, I'm like, oh mate,
come on, these bagel bites are the best pizza. I've
ever had. Have you ever had a real pizza? No,
don't need to because this is the best okay, my food. Therefore, henceforth,

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henceforth bagel bite here in bagel bite is the new one.
I mean when pizza's when pizza is not a bagel.
You can have pizza anytime. Let's be real here, and
it's not wrong. Miss his pockets filled with bagel bites
most of the time. You know, if you if I
reme ever at your house and you have bagel bites,
watch them disappear. I won't cook them there. I will
put them in my pockets and I'll walk out. We

(11:27):
don't one day, you two need to come to my
house and maybe have a cup of tea and some
bagel bites. Yeah, I've known you now for long enough.
We should maybe hang out like real p what kind
of tea? We'll actually have a nice variety. Oh wow,
variety doesn't mean to do that. Check it just okay,
it came out. The only tea I drink is brisk
Baby's brisk That's the only kind of ever had. That's

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the only kind of ever need to have. Jesus is there, America.
But Lipton is still an English product, isn't it not right?
But I don't think Americans, you know, T what t
wasn't anything about them back. I don't think England created
the brand with like the giant block letters. It was
like Brits right yeah, and not to say that even English.

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Remember those commercials that were Claymation. It was like Frank
Sinatra and like fucking Sylvester salone was British baby. Yeah yeah,
and then he came back to life. Yeah. I just
love that ship was my favorite, my favorite British imports. Culturally,
I think what is a myth? What's something people think

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is true? You know to be false? Eric Oh, I
went in the opposite. Okay, people believe so Hypnotherapy people,
people get a lot of people, a lot of people go,
it doesn't work, well, maybe didn't work for you want
like you know once because you tried it once. But
it's quite, you know, it's quite. I think because you've
got to fully let go and you've got to allow
yourself to have the therapists get inside your brain. People

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are worried that it's going to be like a get
out situation, like you've got to sleep and then they
can make you just do you go into the sunken place.
It's not like that. It's like, actually, you put yourself
in the sunken place and you're still there, like you
can fully snap out and after you're still in the
sun complace, let's be right, yeah, and if anything, like,
once you deal with your trauma, you get out of
the sun complace, right, at least you have an idea

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of where you are. Then you can be like, oh,
I don't want to be here. And it's so it's
quite interesting that I was a little bit dubious about hypnotherapy. Well,
I think people think of hypnosis as like the magician
who's like, watch this clock and then yeah, like and
when I do this, you're only going to speak in backwards.
And you know, it's about how susceptible you are. So like,

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you know, if you allow yourself to just be like, Okay,
I'm gonna have a good time. Let's just do this,
it works a lot easier than if you're scared. And actually,
if you've got some really bad trauma that you're dealing with,
or actually some secrets that you're ashamed of, you're unlikely
to allow yourself to be hypnotized because you don't want
those secrets to come out, and so eventually that's why
it doesn't work for some people. It's because you're not

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you're allowing it. You're not allowing it to come in.
You sound like a hYP like a hypnosis expert who
has just been thwarted at a demonstration. And here and
here's I'm sorry everyone, and this is the problem. This
person is not allowing for the hypnosis. Obviously experienced something
very bad something or done something very bad and I'm
not here that I'm not here to you know, cast

(14:23):
this person or anything like that. But m what did
you do? Man? But anyway, otherwise, barky, how are you
doing over there? It's all working up ship. Basically, I
would like to recommend therapy to anyone who needs it. Yeah,
kind of my point. And also, yeah, there's there there's
a Catharsis you experience that you know comes out with

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being very candid and honest about yourself. Yeah it feels good. Yeah.
I generally like after after I did it, I didn't
realize that I was holding onto a pain that I
was I had since I was fifteen, So it was
the port of Bellows mushroom. It was kind of I'll
have my revenge, which is what you want to have, revenge,
not love and compassion. But to be clear about all

(15:07):
your startlist put together, like wait, hold on, this is great. Yeah, no,
therapist is like, you missed one. Let's let's find the
person that you missed that you need to Tommy. Yeah,
Tommy going to get a las Swerda whoa a sword? Okay,
but jesus anyways, Uh, let's talk about Michael Jackson and

(15:33):
cancelations going on. So the Simpsons announced that they're going
to pull the Michael Jackson episode in which Michael Jackson
appears as a character who believes he's Michael Jackson. Yeah.
It was a stark raving Dad I think is the
name of the episode. Yeah, and they're going to pull
that out of their rotation. I've reruns and you know,

(15:54):
a lot of people spent most of last week dealing
with the information that we learned in the Neverland documentary.
Miles you were You were You kind of had some
interesting observation. I mean, you know, even on the that
the beginning of the week, when the first who aired
the lack of Michael Jackson as a trending topic indicated

(16:16):
to me that many people still have a very hard
time processing all of the accusations from that documentary. And
you know, I've noticed too, R Kelly sort of helped
a lot of people a lot, especially a lot of
I think Michael Jackson fans are just people cancel culture
people in general. That it was easier to just focus

(16:36):
on R Kelly last week than it was even on
Michael Jackson because I think a lot of people, even
myself included, have I have a lot the reckoning that
is happening within me of trying to reconcile my love
for the music, the effect that I've the music has
on me, what it means to me, and putting that
next to a pattern of predation and sexual abuse, and

(17:01):
how I what that means to me, what that means
to me to like the music. While that it's very
very it's it's heavy and a lot of especially for
African American people. And I said this last week, it's
a very heavy topic because Michael is is much more
than music in a in a general sense um and
it's it's he's a cultural touchstone. And you know, to

(17:22):
the credit of the filmmakers, Yeah, to the credit of it. Sorry,
Eric Lampertu so at the no, No, it's a very
awkward subject and I think it's the same way people
like to have the r. Kelly memes came out. It's

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very hard to deal with the gravity of everything, right,
Even the filmmaker himself was saying, the point of the
documentary isn't necessarily about dragging Michael Jackson through the dirt
or anything. It's about telling the story of the effect
of the sexual abuse on these two young men that
they carry out through with their lives. Telling the story
of the vicis always about the fucking Like I think

(18:04):
in France, too legal to say the name of someone
that commits like a crime, like a mass shooting stuff,
because it makes them famous, and therefore we just don't
want that. And for some reason America is so like, yeah,
who's the one that did all the fucking crime, Let's
make him famous, and I forget all these twenty people
that died. And it's the same when I watched the
Leaving Netherland, I was like, no, this is important. It's
good to hear their point of view and also what

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I found interesting, um, and I hope I don't phrase
this badly. People start crying over like the air, but
it was interesting to hear their sort of story of love, right,
and that like I felt like Michael Jackson it seemed
like he did was obviously terrible, but if I think
he just confused love, do you know what I mean? Right?

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When you juxtapose that with the history of abuse he
experienced as a child's it's a lot of people tend
to look at these things in a vacuum rather than
a continuation of some cycle of abuse. We we've we
were privileged enough to actually to have known Michael Jackson
since he was a little boy, and we know the
abuse that he had and it's not it's not excusable
what he's done, but it's it's actually interesting to go. Okay,

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so you know, if we can now work out in
the future like the root of problems and actually help
people at the route rather than just allow them to
domino effect into a pedophile, right, surely that that is
how we heal as a as a people, is you know?
Because with R Kelly, I didn't really know much about
him before, and so I was like, oh, what am

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I gonna lose ignition and stuff? And I believe I
can fly? And yeah, that sucks. But I think too,
even with last week everything going on, I saw a
lot of people just it was like a race to
the bottom for cancel culture of people and like, well,
let's talk about Elvis Presley and last let's talk about
his fourteen year old wife and for like teenagers that
he was being romantic with or all the other dark

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ship that was happening in his relationships. And I think, again,
I don't think it's it's not of a culture war scoreboard.
More so that like, I think what we're trying to
do just even culturally, have a reckoning about how we
talk about child sex abuse and if it's a thing,
we don't have to be like, oh, that's too dark,
or like let's avoid that because it makes us uncomfortable.
It's precisely about under to connect it with the rest

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of humanity to say this is a this is an
ongoing issue that for whatever reason, we it's much easier
for us to not talk about because of how difficult
and dark it is. But like, how do we how
are we now advancing to begin talking about this and
advocate for victims and try and make this something that
isn't just like a taboo topic and just something we

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can fully we need to talk about it. And it's
been going on for years and the Greeks and stuff
like that. Everyone's been doing it. And I think it's
important to use people like Michael Jackson because we all
know him, right, the whole world knows him, so then
we can use him as a platform to talk about it,
you know. And because I was I briefly mentioned it
to you two boys before we started recording that my

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mom was sexually abused when she was ten eleven, and
I did speak to her about me allowing to talk
about it. I did say, like, I kind of talk
about it, and she was like, yeah, no, definitely, you
need to talk about it and stuff. And it happens
to everyone, like you know, like ultimately you'll know a friend,
you'll know a family member, you'll know someone has been
abused and maybe they don't talk to you about it

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because that's scared of your reaction. And so many people
will say something and then they're not getting believed, so
then they just keep it to themselves and it sucks.
And then we also attend to view sometimes, you know,
we all, like you say, we know people who have
there's a high chance we know, someone with that kind
of history in their past that you can also kind
of see how it manifests into their adulthood too. And

(21:38):
sometimes it's still not talked about because of the shame
around and I think to remove the stigma of being
a victim too is important. Yeah, it's just again, it's
one of these huge cultural moments that I think even
you know, there are articles about people talking to wedding
DJs and saying like, how will this affect your job
as a wedding DJ? Will you play Michael Jackson's music anymore?

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And a lot of people said there were people who
have been djaying since the nineties to people who have
just been dying the last ten years and who have said,
you know, when he died, everyone was very interested in
the music because it'll his death allowed a little bit
of space in between what people kind of probably knew
but weren't willing to acknowledge, and we're able to use
that to sort of re engage with his music. And
they said, well, have you talked to people who don't

(22:20):
want the music played? They say, yeah, I meet people
who like clients who don't want the music played. Other
people say they need the music to be played and
and can can the music be seen as also an
insight into what he was going through? Like I was
thinking as soon as I watched Lady in Neverland. For
some reason, I thought of man in the mirror. He's
asking the man in the mirror to change, and I
was thinking, is he talking to himself? Here? Is he

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trying to find a way to change? But it's so
fucking hard to change by yourself. I think that's one
of the reasons why I brought up hypnotherapy was because
before I did it, I would snap, you know, if
if if things didn't go my way, I would throw
a little fucking tantrum like a little bloody boy that
I was. And the reason I did that because I
was stuck fifteen year old me. I was a thirty

(23:03):
two year old man. But for some reason, and this
is something I forgot. I didn't realize I was holding
onto it. But I was holding onto a pain that
happened to me as a kid. And Freud talks about
it and so many other people. The Mono myth is
about these heroes that have to tackle their their edibus
complex and stuff like what you know when I when
I look at trophy hunters, I go, who did you
really kill your mom or your dad? Because ultimately people

(23:27):
people look up to their parents rightly so, because we
idolize them because we needed for survival, and then we
forget that when they make a mistake, we hold onto
it like, I can't believe my parents did this. But
then you realize, surely as a as an adult, not
only are we all just improvising through life, because this
is and no one knows what they're doing without even
a one word suggestion, right, and so we have to

(23:48):
yes and everything, and it's terrifying. And then you realize, oh, ship,
my parents are just people. So you can realize that
they're people. You realize, oh, man, like what you know,
they did their best, and sometimes their best can be
fucking ship, but that might still be their best based
on how their parents treat them. And you go back
and forth, and it's the same thing with Michael Jackson.

(24:09):
You could sort of get a glimpse into why he
became the monster that that was, but yeah, it's I mean,
he did a horrible thing and it shouldn't be forgiven.
It should get not like cancel culture, I think is
an absurd way to describe dealing with the consequences of
the things that people did, or not having a double

(24:33):
standard for famous people, you know, not just letting people
get away with ship and not ignoring the consequences. We
should look at Elvis and so far as that was
a behavior that happened. But I think the people who
are objecting to cancel culture, I think like to frame

(24:53):
it as a well then they just say it's either
black and white and if they did something bad, then
you immediate canceled them. And I think that there's probably
room for people who like the wedding DJ said like,
don't want to necessarily remove all of his music, And
you know, I have a friend who was like, I

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still I'm going to listen to his music. And I
was like, are you going to watch the documentary? And
he was like fuck no. I was like, all right, well,
I mean that's and that's that's the shame as well,
because it is his right. But I feel like, yeah,
you can't bury your head. Yeah you can't ignore the
negative things in life, and negative and positive things happen
in life, and we're just going to talk about both

(25:34):
of them. People are just always sucking, obsessable. I need
to be happy. I need to be happy and sucking.
They just ignore everything that's sad, and it's like, if
you're ignoring everything that's sad, you're actually deluding yourself. Right,
And even with this, right, it's like I look at
him like, well, am I shitty because I'm a fan
of Michael Jackson's music? Or is this more to do
with my ability to deal with the darkness of acknowledging

(25:59):
some and like history of predation or to understand that
that this is an actual problem? And I'm it just
forces so much introspection at least for me personally throughout
all this, because I'm like, what am I trying to
preserve myself from? It's like, well, it's not that I
advocate for child sex abuse because it's the music. But
even then, like his music pops on on the radio,

(26:21):
his songs are fucking amazing. Forget Michael Jackson, forget the man.
Just listen to the music. The music is stunning. The
music is amazing. Put put it on in a discotheque
and you will beat and you will pop and you'll
dance right, And it doesn't matter. I mean, it doesn't
matter that the person you know commit crimes. But but

(26:43):
the music itself is, but that's the thing is. Then
then you get into the whole argument of like can
you separate the art from the artist and all these
other things? And then it's like, well, then is there
like a predator period of Michael Jackson music that's okay
to listen to because that was prior to this? For example,
right R. Kelly is still alive now, if he still

(27:04):
made songs, now, I'd be like someone someone somewhere is
sucking up because he's quite clearly an abuser. Right, but
Michael Jackson is dead right like, and it doesn't mean
let's go let's concentrate on the victims, let's help them heal.
But he's gone, guys, like the music exists. People are

(27:24):
so obsessed with deleting history. No learned from the fucking
history A bunch of cunts. Apologies for getting absolutely, but
people just right, they just want to live in a
fucking bubble on both sides. Continue to play his music,
but then understand that part of the meaning of that
music changes, has changed, the context has changed for playing them,

(27:47):
and respect that some person might completely object to that,
and you also have to respect that person's you know,
if there and if somebody asks you to turn his
music off or not play it at their wedding, obviously,
And I think it's that and I think it would
be fun, you know, because then you've got a different
meaning to beat it to smooth. Criminal Man in the
Mirror is really interesting because first of all, Man in

(28:09):
the mirror, like he was somebody who did not accurate
you know, he had horrible body and you know, just
person dysmorphia, so he couldn't accurately see his own reflection
in the mirror. But then also, like like you were
talking about, he's asking himself to change, but he's also
the only person because he was so famous, he's the

(28:31):
only person who was holding himself to account, you know,
like he's trying to police his own behavior and like that.
Just I think it's a good point that you brought
up therapy because that's the value of therapy is you
can't look at yourself and be objective and be the
person policing yourself. You need to bring somebody else in

(28:53):
and tell them about what you're dealing with, like other
people your mirrors. Yes, And and the reason the reason
I went to hit the therapy was because my wife
ex wife she pointed out that I needed mothering right,
and I was like, oh, interesting, like and I was like, oh,
I didn't realize, like, I'll work on that. And she
was like, but you know, don't be embarrassed by it,
like it was obvious, like you got you got abandoned
by your mom at the age of fifteen. And I

(29:14):
was like, oh, oh yeah, that's interesting, right. And so
all of a sudden, I realized that I was going
I was jumping for one relationship to another, and I
was doing the same patterns that I felt like I
couldn't control and end up with this type of person kinship,
and it was annoying me. I was like changing my day,

(29:35):
and so I was annoying me, and that's why I
did him in the therapy and I got rid of it.
And then I realized I was looking at my dad,
and my dad got abandoned by his mom at the
age of eight, So not only did he repeat the
cycle on to me, right, but also now I'm looking
at his relationships and he's just jumping from one to
another and going, oh man, that's so fucking sad. And
and then you look at people in general, literally all
of us. Have you know this thing inside that they're

(30:00):
there are cycles of abuse or trauma that we don't
even realize. We're however small big. You know some people
it might be a small thing, but you know it's
a ripple effect. You're you're bumping up against the you know,
it's like an intersection of believing victims, empowering victims, holding
people to account, celebrity. There's so many fucking layers to
it that it's not like it's not the question is

(30:22):
a child sex predator good or bad? It's this it's
what does that mean? Is you know this person is dead,
that they've left a legacy culturally that people still have,
you know, that they've absorbed through osmosis. It's super difficult
because I've watched the thing yesterday and I was like,
I'm not going to give up my music. Yeah, I
just I'm not because I love I love his music. Yeah,

(30:44):
and but you're still but yeah, it does like I
may not play yeah right, yeah, yeah. I mean I
think that's the thing is that it's going to be
different for people who are victims of abuse. Here Michael
Jackson music, and that's going to have its own kind
of tape. As like I was saying, it changes the context.
So we need to be sensitive to that. And if

(31:06):
somebody doesn't want to hear Michael Jackson music, or maybe
like ask before you put it on, Like, is everybody
cool if I play Michael Jackson's song? That's not that's
not like I don't know. People are just like, oh
so now because you're criticizing him, then he's totally canceled
and I can't listen to Thriller ever again. And it's like, no,
I don't think the options are either we can never

(31:29):
talk about him again, or we listen to his music
without any consequence. I think it's just that we are
acknowledging something that happened and that we have to deal with,
and that is now a part of this story that uh,
you know, we that has been a part of everybody's lives,
and let's just not bury our head in the sand

(31:51):
one way or another. At a minimum, the era of
willful ignorance around it has ended. Yes, guys, I feel
like we are on the verge of solving a human condition,
but we have to go to a break unfortunately, so
maybe next time, I don't know, well, we'll be right
back and we're back and Captain Marvel. Big ups to

(32:21):
Captain Marvel had a had a big weekend of the
box office. U. I think box Office Mojo had it
anywhere between a hundred and thirty five hundred seventy five million,
which another yeah, yeah, it's really good. I don't know,
I'm so rich, you know, I don't know, I don't know.
To you guys a lot of money. So, uh, this
is I think wild for a couple of reasons. One

(32:43):
another l for the male community of people who try
to influence the how successful a movie is, like by
down voting too, because they took that ability away. So
the backlash from men who had seen it, and we're
just mad that there was a female superhero movie. I

(33:04):
think that that also that nuts sometimes neds are a
bit mad, and I'm I'm a nut, but we're gonna
get into the nerd of it all in a moment.
The other kind of thing that stood out to me
about Captain Marvel is we were sitting here recording a
week and a half ago and a fighter jet flyover
like information like it was the fucking super Bowl happened

(33:26):
like during one of our recordings, and usually we don't
have that like I think it's warranted for a daily
zeitgeys recording to have a fighter jet flyover, but uh,
we did a little research and it turns out it
wasn't for us, it was for the They were practicing
for that evening's premiere of Captain Marvel, and apparently Captain
Marvel is one of the biggest military propaganda movies of

(33:50):
all time. It's like up there with Top Gun. Oh yeah, yeah,
it's like all the fighters. Is that just because of
I mean, like the hardware that the equipment that they
allowed them user, the care I don't even really. It's
so when Top Gun happened, there was a rise in
application to the U. S. Navy, and I think that's
the same sort of thing with this, like Interstella created

(34:11):
more astronal applications and so like when you look at
like Captain Marvel and she's this as well, that makes
people want to you can't make I haven't seen Captain Marvel,
so I don't know the specific details. But with regards
to the Top Gun, you could not have made that
movie without Pentagon being a like, at least like huge
partner in the production of that movie, because they're the

(34:33):
only ones who have fucking aircraft carrier. Right, there's not
like some guy doesn't have want to rent, right, you
can't rent an aircraft carrier. So the Pentagon was like
a I got like necessary ingredient, and they don't look
around when it comes to script oversight. They're like, Okay,
you're making a movie. We're going to make one with you,
and we're bringing our script consulting out and they're going
to be in the room for the scripting and all

(34:55):
the creative decisions from this point forward. Yeah. That like,
once you invite the Pentagon, then you get access to
a lot of really cool toys, and you a Pentagon
a really good script supervisor, you have great instincts. Yeah,
what's his face? The guy who wrote adaptation I think
before Charlie Kaufman was there before at the Pentagon. Yeah,

(35:17):
Paul Thomas Anderson. I also believe a resident there just
doing some commercials. But yeah, I think you know, why,
where's the top gun for teachers? You know? I mean
that's what we need. We need a good film like
that so people can be like, you'll like any good teacher,
lick for a teacher. Yeah, and she's just walking into

(35:38):
the class. Yeah, And then finally, the thing that stood
out about this particular Marvel movie to me is that
this was the first one where I didn't know anything
about this character until she was introduced. You knew about
aunt Man. I knew about aunt Man. Funk. I don't
know about aunt Man. Yeah. I thought the Wasp was
this dude I went to high school because that was

(36:01):
somebody's nickname. Yeah, dude, Brett, what a great Otherwise, Okay,
boat to Brett, Now I get it, like Anglo Saxon Protestant,
right right? Um? I think I only knew about aunt
Man because I had been saying that they needed to
remake Honey I Shrunk the Kids as an action adventure

(36:21):
movie for the like, with modern special effects, and people
were like, they're going to with ant. But anyways, so, Eric,
you were saying that this is part of sort of
the afterlife of the Avengers movies, right, Yeah, So I
don't know too much, but I know that the you know,
you've got the original Avengers, you know, iron Man, Thor

(36:42):
and all of that, and I know that at some
point they are going to either die or stop being
part of the Avengers, and you people are going to
come in and that's why I think they've introduced Captain Marvel,
who will be part of the Avengers. And I believe
there's a trailer for the next Spider Man. I can't
remember his name, but Jake's in the holes superhero character mysterio.
I can't remember. No mysterions in South Park, but they

(37:06):
there is a sort of he's got like a sort
of aquarium head fish bowl, fish bowl, helmet's mysterious mysterious, right, So, um,
I know that I believe, you know, I believe that
these guys become Avengers in the future because after Avengers endgame,
it's not the end, it's just the end game for
like Tony Stark for example. I'm still haven't watched Civil War.

(37:28):
It's a good one actually, or what was the other way,
the one where Danos is in because I'm afraid what
happens in it. I heard Infinity War, Yeah I was.
I don't know if it's great, if I can handle it. Well, yeah,
it's an interesting one because I think you're on the
side of Fanos. I'm definitely a fan of pharos Uh

(37:49):
and all the work they do. So I got a
lot of money and that I have to update you
on how that company ended up doing. What do you mean,
I just put a down payment on this yacht broke?
And you're gonna be laughing when you're not there, you
in the Wasp on that on that down payment, Mr
Pink shorts. But know it's angry because basically, I think

(38:10):
Captain Marvel was a man and she eventually becomes Captain
Marvel in the comics, and she she does work with him.
It's something like that, right, It's like she works with
him and then when he retires, she becomes it, and
they just bypassed that storyline, right, And I think that
that's what the nerds are angry about. Well that and
also she said that it was more of a criticism

(38:32):
of a lot of the journalist she said she was
encountering during the press tour, which tend to skew like male,
older and white, and she was like, I wish I
was talking with people like, oh, okay, so you don't
need white men to go to the movie heard and
now we're going to roast the Ratten Tomato score. If
white men need to watch the movies, watch literally anything

(38:55):
made before the nineties, because just now there's still a
high chance now you're going to be fine with what
you see. I've started watching like older movies just for
a bit of fun because I'm not watching, you know,
the old cinema, and my goodness, it's just white man,
one woman going, I don't know what I'm doing back now,
I'll take control. It's super interesting. Yeah, like a little

(39:17):
glimpse into like and not not again racing cinema, racing history,
like just because they're just full of white men and
they kind of misogynists and racists and stuff. Do we
just delete that cinema? Now? You need to look at this,
you can go, yeah, it's like yeah, just like it's
the same thing. It's in the same way. A lot
of like in the South, they don't like to teach

(39:37):
too much about slavery, right because if you don't see it,
then it's hard for you to think that that's a
bad thing. But if you're confronted in with your eyes
to look at look at these scars on the backs
of slaves, look and listen to these whole stories, you're
more likely about Yeah. Although I mean still a very
it's a cycle we're still trying to end to in
this country. I also, gentlemen, if they told World War

(40:02):
two and stuff in their schools, and they were like
oh yeah, oh yeah, right yeah, And I was like, good,
you know, that's like an interesting thing that they were
very adamant about teaching it. Sure. Yeah, they did a
good job with their reaction to World War Two. I
feel like from a Hi, looks look like Germany turn
it around, right, they gave it. They gave it two guys.

(40:22):
You know, maybe maybe they're planning the next one. And now,
despite all of their best efforts, there are right wing
extremists everywhere on the rise. Up Raik three year out
like it. You know what I mean? Baseball boom oh,
now I go you're referring to baseball Nazis. Huh that

(40:44):
a movie yet, Baseball Nazi Baseball Nazis. I feel like
everyone's doing like the Nazis, zombie Nazis, something with Nazis.
They did soccer Nazis in an eighties movie starring Sylvester Stallone.
They did Yeah Yeah Victory and it was like playing blue.
I think, so yeah, very good. Hit this free kick

(41:06):
from most side of the eighteen. Alright, he's got all
the lingo. I'm still playing three in the back here. Alright, alright, alright,
Paul Manafort. Fuck got so. Mueller's recommendation was a minimum

(41:27):
of nineteen years. Uh, those just the sentencing guidelines. So
those are like the ones Congress says like for these
kinds of crimes, this is the minimum is around nineteen years.
Mueller was like, there's no reason to go easy on
this guy. Basically, That's why I was like, here we go, right,
that it was gonna be lights out for him for
the radio. And it turns out that the judge did

(41:49):
not like that advice. Yeah, because he sends him to
forty seven months. Yeah, basically with nine months served already. Right,
so you know, for these financial crimes. Now, I think
this has led to all kinds of people being like
this the fixes in because the person said, he's like

(42:09):
lived in an otherwise blameless life, which is like really
all the fucking pr spin for he's done for like
dictators and ship and literally sending the Russians polling and
from whatever. Fine about the judge, right, this judge in
particular Elliott, he is not a fan of being told
what to do when it comes to sentencing, Like he

(42:30):
does not like being He's like, I'm the judge, I'm
known presiding over this. That's what you suggest that, right.
He sounds like he's pushed back actually, you know, on
certain instances about mandatory minimums for drug dealers. So he
kind of this is sort of consistent with his brand
of just like don't time, I'm the judge. I'll do
what I want to in my court. Thank you for
the suggestion. I'm still the judge. However, like part of

(42:51):
his deal is he recognized that federal penitentiary is like
a very bad place to be. He's like, anybody who's
saying that this is too easy has never been inside
a federal Well he's but this one he would be
going to is for a white collar crime, you know
what I mean. It's like he's going to sing sing
or something like that. But again, even with like white
collar crimes, I think there was some stat they said

(43:13):
that like almost sixty six percent of the time he
was staying within guidelines and other times he would sort
of be a little more lenient. And everyone's people are like, well,
what's so different about Paul Manafort, Like what's going on?
And I think the bigger discussion is probably going to
be around the way we treat white collar crime in general,
because there are still motherfucker's who like what that woman

(43:33):
who have voted in Texas while on probation and like
she had the wrong idea or something they put in
five they put it in prison for five years, or
just all the people in prison for marijuana is still
you know what I mean, that's and I think that's
what sort of the the issue to me is because
he still has to face Amy Berman Jackson in d
C and his DC case, and he could probably get
up to ten years from her. Uh and at his age. Look,

(43:56):
it's not going to be a joy ride no way,
no matter how you look at it. But I think
the the idea of how we look at crime and
the sentencing, I think is a is a bigger issue
too that we can we should begin discussing because these
disproportionate sentences or it's like, oh, well, look, if you're
a white rich guy or you do rich people crimes,
we know you mean, well, you're not wacky that you

(44:18):
just deceive people and defrauded people. But someone who might
have stole some ship to support their family or you know,
is dealing drugs because that's their only financial recourse let's
get to bury them under the fucking uh and you know,
and it sort of wears down our trust in these institutions,
right the presidency, the executive or like whatever, Congress or

(44:40):
like look at the Republicans and not willing to do
ship slowly. The judiciary is also crumbling too, because we're like, well,
look at who how they're stacking the Supreme Court. It's
become part is in there. We're not even seeing like
a real, actual blind application of justice and the law.
I sometimes feel like the government and this isn't all
just you know, this Trump administration, but it's pretty his
governments and his governments around the world at the moment,

(45:02):
it seems like they really want people to start just
losing hope. You know, they just keep throwing something just
to go, you know, we are in power here and
we're gonna fuck you over. And at some point, I'm
French mate, like we we behead the people. Yeah, I
love your bastial day tattoo. Man, that's really dope. I oh,

(45:22):
you know, like we're going to come for you at
some point, government, if you don't stop getting your ship together. Well,
Americans are very comfortable, you know, and we don't. The
last time people pulled up like that was in the
Civil War, you know what I mean, or the Revolution.
And I think there's just a quite large country. It's
quite hot. Yeah, it's large. And also because it's been
so prosperous, I think people are now only starting to

(45:44):
feel the sting of being totally fucked by capitalism in
this country. And that's why now you're like, hey, what
the fund is going on? Exactly. Yeah, So it'll it'll
be a bit of a journey. But you can hear
more about that. An upcoming podcast are doing called it
Could Happen Here, Yes, with Robert Evans m hmmm, uh,
dropping Mary talking about the how a civil war could

(46:06):
happen here, could actually happen in the next couple of
years in the United States. All Right, we're gonna take
a quick break and we'll be right back. And we're back.
And ilhan Omar keeps it hot in the Congress, in

(46:29):
this US Congress, you know, in addition to all the
controversies she's created with her statements about it manufactured controversy, right,
manufactured controversy, but she she does not shy away from,
you know, speaking her mind when it comes to that story.
People are also going crazy because she said some things

(46:50):
about the Obama administration that are not that are not
deemed as that cool. Obama is a good guy, right,
what the rock drowne Obama? So that is causing some
people to kind of look at her askance. But it's
all okay because they passed a hate speech decree saying

(47:15):
hate speech is bad, hay speech is bad, is ms
are bad, phobias are bad, and that's that. Can we
move on now because we've done our thing. Look, they
passed that weird bill that we were talking about last week.
How it got very watered down and just turned into
a general just sort of resolution about we don't like
this stuff. Great sounds like a real easy thing to

(47:37):
just passed almost unanimously. Right. The bill is based saying
we as a Congress, we fucking denounced this kind of
ship we like, you know, the anti semitism, is lamphobia,
just racism in general, all that kind of ship. Um.
But still twenty four Republicans found a way to say

(47:57):
I don't agree with that statement in a very roundabout
way because they wanted the that bill to turn into
not just racism's bad k bill into a lar ilhan
Omar hates Jews and the Damns are okay with it.
So they are the Nazis, not us, the people that
actually are Nazi sympathizers. Because look your boys, Steve King,

(48:21):
he didn't vote no, he voted present a true profile, encouraged,
and the other Republicans have voted against it. We're basically
saying it's watered down, it didn't go far enough, because
I think they just wanted to see her completely run
out on a rail and just being just lambasted by
this thing, rather than just being like, what about the
sentiment of this bill? Why don't just vote purely on that? Here? Yes,

(48:44):
That's how I answer yes or no questions, just shouting
I'm here, Jack, you love your kids here? Do you
ever like, do you ever just feel sorry for the
people that go against what feels like the good or
the love or the right choice? Does it make sense
like they're never happy? Right? It just I actually genuinely

(49:04):
do feel sorry for the people are so angry at others,
you know, like it for me, Jane ly seems kind
of illogical. It's a painful place, I think, to be in,
to be in a constantly in a state of hatred. Yeah,
Like I wake up every day and I go, you know,
and I've worked on it, the theropy thing. Like I
wake up and I go, Okay, this is nice. How

(49:26):
can I be nice today? Sure? How can I do
my life and be nice? And some people just wake
up and go Muslims, if you're in a position, if
you're in a position of power, and you can actually
translate that hate into real world violence or disinfr disenfranchisement
or oppression for other people, I don't give a funk
about you. Yeah. In fact, I need you to fall
the funk all the way back. And in fact, they're

(49:48):
probably too busy winning from like cynically manipulating those emotions
of other people. But general people who are feel the pain. Yeah,
regular people out there who have hating your heart. Look
you you, I hope your eyes are open, because that's
not a way to live. It's not good for you.
It's talk. It's literally not good for you. That's what
people don't understand. It's like it's like road rage. When

(50:10):
I see people just losing the ship in the car,
I'm like, you know that that anger is not being
transferred to the car ahead of you. It's just you
and now the passengers are stuck inside of your car
just and yourselves are on a cellular level, they're being like, yeah,
it's like just like drinking poison to try to kill
somebody else. That's not how that works. Yeah. But you

(50:31):
know again, the Republicans really they just wanted to take
this moment because they realize they're on the side of
the worst president of all time. Uh it's like poka, Yeah,
the wote, not the goat, the wote worst of all time. Um,
and they need as many distractions as they can. I mean,
listen to even how Donald Trump was talking about the

(50:54):
Democrats despite all of his racial racist commentary, because it's
become the Democrats have become an anti Israel party. They
become an anti Jewish party. And I thought that vote
was a disgrace, and so does everybody else, if you
get an honest answer, everybody else, Um, look, I like yeah,

(51:16):
I like I hadn't fully understood that the dual allegiance
thing was something that Jewish people were sensitive about, because
it was one of Hitler's early allegations about Jews was
that they weren't true Germans, they weren't truly allegiant to Germany,
and therefore he used that as justification to persecute them.

(51:39):
So I get the sensitivity. I just want to make
sure that the people making the complaint about Ilahan Omar
were also complaining when Donald Trump said during the Republican
primary that Jews didn't like him because he didn't give
them money, but that he liked them because they're good

(51:59):
at negotiayations? Did did we forget the good people on
both sides? Has anyone forgotten the day when Nazis killed someone? Right?
We'll forget? I'm not in my mind. No, it's true,
And I think that's why. That's why it's even more
disheartening to see the Democratic leadership be like, oh, yeah, okay,

(52:23):
let's uh. We we want to change the optics around
this situation by condemning that without just being like, excuse
anti we really mr both sides. Yeah. If the people
who get mad about Omar or anybody criticizing Israel also
disavowed the president back when he said the first anti

(52:45):
Semitic thing, he said, I'm good. We can have a conversation.
Until then you can go yourself. I would really enjoy
Someone asked to ask the president tell me about Israel
and past time. Don't tell me tell me the history. Honestly,
I honestly don't know. Yeah, I mean from would be.
But I feel like YouTube needs just sort it out
because I'm getting tired of it. Yeah, who told me?

(53:06):
Very bad? They're very bad people. They don't pay their taxes.
They they use other people's logins for Netflix. They're just
they're they're criminals. Yeah, I don't know. I mean he
has no he has no Yeah, and about history, right,
Like it's okay to know. This is to everyone listening,
it's okay to not know. Just find out. Yeah, but
he's what but it's his psychology. Was like, he's one

(53:29):
of those people will never lets you know that he
doesn't know what the funk he's talking about. And in fact,
if you ask many people, many people, every man, everyone
saying that I'm an expert in Israel Palistine. Wow, is
that your Trump? That's felt very trumpy and good? Yeah,

(53:52):
good is a strong word. Let's talk about who the
president hangs out with and takes pictures with. This is
just a fun well, it's just a quick and quick story,
just a good a quick let's call it a Google
image search check in. Uh, you can find the president
in photographs with the founder of the massage parlor where

(54:12):
Robert Kraft was caught soliciting sex. And these photographs are
not like back in the seventies when they were both
in college. They are from the past couple of months.
It's from Super Bowl Sunday, this last Super Bowl when
the when the fucking Patriots were winning. She took a
Selfiere's woman, Cindy Yang. I mean, she's not named in
any of the charging documents because you know that whole

(54:33):
Bust uncovered an entire network of massage places that were
just trafficking women, um. But she began those businesses um.
And she herself apparently has another like a massage parlor
spa that is under some police scrutiny for kind of
the same thing where management is encouraging the employees to
offer sex and things like that. You know, it's interesting

(54:55):
this woman, Cindy Yang, Like she has a photo with
so many Republican like leaders, Like she's got a Palin selfie,
she's got one with Matt Gates, she's going with Eric Trump,
Don Jr. If she's got them all. But again, you know, uh,
five pictures with President Trump. Yeah, she has another one

(55:16):
where like straight up like them looks like a prom
photo with like a backdrop, and he signed it with
his weird uh like e K G. Reading Sure that
looks like a heart monitor rhythm. But yeah, uh yeah,
it's just an interesting photo that a lot of people
are like, oh wow, so this person is around mar Lago.
And I don't even mean to say that this woman
is directly implicated because I don't even want to. I'm

(55:38):
not even trying to do that. But again, interesting to
see that she was the owner of the massage parlor
where Robert Kraft was caught listening sex, right, and then
that was that business was sold to these other people,
and this is a listening sex from human traffic people.
Yes corrective. Yeah, Okay, some bad news I think for everybody.

(56:00):
I don't think there's anybody who isn't an Alex Trebek
fan slightly. And Alex Trebek has announced he has stage
for pancreatic cancer, which just sucks. It's yeah, I don't
really have anything to add about it other than that
he seemed he was very stoic when he announced it,
and it was it made it almost harder to watch

(56:21):
in the way in a weird way, like is he
a Jeopardy guy? Yes, how did he announce it? The
announce it in the funnel? Did it at the podium
like he always does, And I want to share with
you a bit of personal news, like that's how he did. Yeah,
And it was very it was very straightforward. He said,
I've been diagnosed with stage for pancreatic cancer. But I'm
going to fight this. I will continue this season. Like

(56:44):
he had a very positive attitude. But you know he's
he's had a lot of health issues. Um, and yeah,
it was very I think, yeah, just he's a he's
one of those people who you just know and probably
grown up with, depending on how much Jeopardy you watch.
But yeah, well good to him, Like it's good that
he know, it's good that he's like positive. Yeah, yeah,
I mean yeah, it's very serri mean stage four is like, yeah,

(57:09):
the just I just wish that he did it in
the soul of Jeopardy style and that is that doesn't
look good. Yeah, And I was like, oh my god, Alex,
look I'm trying to laugh about that because she got
it right, like yeah, yeah. And finally a little bit
of news from the UK and I just apologize now,

(57:31):
I'm sure it's ship news kind of so Kensing and
Palace has made moves to tackle online abuse against Megan Markle. Basically,
there's there's been a uptick in hate speech towards her
of late. I think now that it's wrong with people. Yeah,
but it's it's weird because it seems like it's a

(57:54):
very coordinated effort. They said that a sample of more
than five thousand tweets containing anti Megan hashtags showed just
horrifying racism, but also showed that twenty accounts were responsible
for about seventy of the tweets. So it's like the
Russian like Internet Research Society or whatever. Research Research at

(58:17):
the i R is like out here being like nah,
we gott we can't. We can't let this Megan Markle.
She's like a symbol of hope for the Western world
or something. Um. Also, she's a princess, right funk off?
Like I mean, like, well she's a princess. Now you
think her, You think your little tweets are going to
hurt her? Like no, just stop, get out your basement,

(58:41):
look at the sun for a bit, and you not
look at the sun. Well, yeah, I mean, maybe you
waste your time posting dumb racist on the internet. Why
once you take a long hard that's actually good. I
like that, Like, take a long hard look at yourself.
If you think they are not beyond saving, but they're
beyond saving, take a long hard look at the sun.

(59:02):
Just I just liked the idea of like a fifty
six year old man with a big in his garage
or garage or whatever you say, and he's just like, Oh,
I'm gonna show Megan. I'm going to show her because
she's black. I mean, let mean, look what happened in
this country. We had our first black president and that
that opened the floodgates. So it makes sense that you
have a woman of color coming into the royal family

(59:25):
that there is some kind of backlash in that sense. Well,
isn't that testifying? But I'm like, this is that happens.
Isn't that why chriss Is Diana supposedly died because of
DoD Yeah? Rightosedly that's the that's conspiracy, but it's an
interesting one, certainly. Yeah, when we talk about I think
we've talked about that with you last time, potentially. Oh
and also Mohammed Alpha had Remember he used to he

(59:46):
owned Fulham Football Club and had a statue of Michael
Jackson outside of Craving Cottage and then they took it down. Yeah,
he owned Herod's right. I think Dody Alpha had anyway,
that was man, I remember I was. I was really
into that whole Diana thing when I was like a
kid a conspiracy theories. Well, at first I wasn't like
the conspiracy theories weren't coming in like in ninety seven

(01:00:08):
when it started happening, But like I remember, I read
everything about it for whatever reason. I don't know why. Well,
I think it's because everyone was telling you to read it, right,
Like I remember being in France and like when when
the news broke out and stuff, and because it was
old news all the time, it was old in papers,
you naturally just go, oh, well that's what's important now,
and you just naturally just zome befy yourself to whatever

(01:00:28):
the headline is. I think mine was because again I
talked about it all the time. I have the same
birthday as Prince Harry, and I was like, fun, man,
I want like that could have been my mom, right,
could have been you know why? She was everybody's mother
in that way. Thank you so much, and that's how
I found peace, right, it's nice ship. So what do
you do you believe there's a conspiracy? Well, what I

(01:00:48):
believe in is a life after love. You. You're very
well sharing, hey, not the best and bids for nothing.
Eric has been a pleasure having you, man, thanks for
having me. And I'm not just saying that because of
the share punt, although that did help listeners. Quickly, May

(01:01:11):
I say I've got an album out called Alien of
Extraordinary Ability. It's on Spotify and it's free, so you know,
if you don't like it halfway through, you can just stop.
Just stop it. Yeah, throw your phone out the window?
Is there? Get so angry that take it out on
your phone? Where can people follow you in real time?
All the social media's that's basically it. Yeah, that's it. Yeah,

(01:01:32):
that's it. Like you know, I do some podcasts, I
do some videos on YouTube and stuff like what's your handle?
How do they find you? It's just my name? Okay, okay,
and spell that because people look at a M P
A R. But like the name will be in the descriptions,
right right, Yeah, just do some basic research. Lazy bass.
That's a very good point. And is there a tweet

(01:01:53):
you've been enjoying? Eric? Is there a tweet I've been enjoying? Yes,
actually there is so on my timeline. I retweet it.
This is like maybe seven down there is a person
that said, this is how I want to be displayed
at my funeral. And it's just a video of this
person just sort of like hanging and being taken around
a sort of theme park. But the juxtaposition between that

(01:02:17):
person not enjoying themselves at the theme park and then
the tagline check out, you know this is how Oh
it's so weird. Wait, what is this a ride? It's
a It looks like a woman on some kind of
a railed zip line just flying around this weird amusement space.
But her body is so limp. It looks like a corpse.
And I just watched it. I watched it for like

(01:02:39):
twenty times. It's just simple things like that bring me
joy because it does look like a corpse just on
a ride. I'm gonna retweet this now if you want
to see it. Miles, Where can people find you? Oh God,
do we want to get into that? You can find
me and follow me on Twitter and Instagram. I'm at

(01:03:00):
miles of gray g r A y not e y
see something all misspelling my name, respect my name for
some respect on my name. Uh. Some tweets I like.
One is from Amber Nelson at Amber Smellson. It says,
fun fact you can have a bunch of tattoos and
also the personality of a Manila folder because I think
we all know somebody who's overly tattooed and you're like,

(01:03:21):
you are dull my person Uh. And another one from
Samuel Mohen at Samuel Mohen it says leant me to
sing this. When I was just a little girl, I
asked my mother what will I be? Will I be pretty?
Will I be rich? Here's what she said to me.

(01:03:46):
You long cigarette dragon? No damn Uh. You can find
me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien. Uh. Couple of
tweets winds or man m an and tweeted Wesley Snipes
was sentenced to three years in prison for misdemeanor tax
evasion just a fact that you guys should know because uh, yes,

(01:04:10):
it seems like a double standards and you have Paul
Manafort doing his ship. Um really uh. And then Ellerie
Smith tweeted not everyone who has wept on public transportation
as a comedian. But every comedian has wept on public transport.
That's truths so true. You can find us on Twitter
at Daily Zeitgeist. Were at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram.

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We have a Facebook campage and a website daily zis
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we link off to the information that we talked about
in today's episode, as well as the song we ride
out on. I mean, look, since we're kind of in
the UK headspace, I wanted to let y'all know. Idris
Elba has bars okay, the man from Hackney, Okay, London,

(01:04:55):
he can hold it the fun down. And this is
a track called BULLSTI with Wiley, Stephlondan, Shana Paul and
in dressed Elba No, so put this in your ears
no okay and take down on. It's called both Yeah.
I just like yo Indris Elba. His voice is so gruff,
but man, I'm talented, you know what I mean. He
turned it. He turned it out on this track. So

(01:05:16):
check this one out. All right, We're gonna ride out
on that. We will be back tomorrow because it is
a daily podcast. Man we'll talk to you guys then bye.
I'll give you to wrap it up. Do my thing,
stop be, put me on the ground and remixing. Boy
died while with the Pacina flow. Good for the part too,
called me to Nero. I came to wind by me.

(01:05:37):
That's not there's just Na killing a top a big
d J, Hawks, Megan and Irish Manna Boss. I'll make
a gambol. I'll be this way some day and I
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