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In episode 677, Miles and guest host Jamie Loftus are joined by Unpopular and This Day In History Class host Yves Jeffcoat to discuss Ted Yoho accosting Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez, the men's rights activist murdering a federal judge's son, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, the McCloskey's facing gun charges, Trader Joe's changing it's branding, and more!

FOOTNOTES:

1. Ocasio-Cortez accosted by GOP lawmaker over remarks: 'That kind of confrontation hasn't ever happened to me'
2. Lawyer Roy Den Hollander posted chilling remarks before murder at judge’s house
3. Men's Rights Activist Lawyer Moves From Suing 'Ladies Nights' To Murder
4. Ginsburg says she's undergoing chemotherapy due to liver cancer
5. Missouri governor’s comments on coronavirus, McCloskeys raise eyebrows
6. St. Louis couple who waved guns at protesters face charges
7. Trader Joe’s to Change Branding Criticized as Racist Because It ‘Exoticizes Other Cultures’
8. WATCH: Daringer - Afet

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now live in Hawaii forever and I don't want to

(02:17):
talk to anybody, and I don't need anything to live
with this ocean field. Uh, Jamie, Jamie, Jamie, thanks for
coming by. You know, these substitute gigs are not easy
for me all the time, so I appreciate you. I'm
here to make things more disorganized and harder. Well, please
help me introduce and welcome our first time guest. She

(02:38):
is actually part of the Heart family, but the first
time on this show. She's a writer, she's a podcaster, host,
pretty much you name it, she can do it. Please
welcome Eve's Jeff Cote. Hey, y'all, I'm happy to be here,
and I really feel like I cannot follow that introduction Jamie,
But I'm here, and that's how it's gonna be. Got

(02:59):
any a k as Eves? I don't have any A
K A S. I feel like I should be christened here.
I mean, what what better place to to to be
honored with a K A S? I don't have any
of my own. I guess Eves St Laurent. But that's
just not much of an ak. It's just a pretty
h Well, we're gonna get to know you even better
of a first We gotta tell our listeners what's going on.

(03:21):
I'm just gonna check in. You know, we've been checking
around with like white supremacy. Uh, I need to check
in with toxic masculinity too, because boy, oh boy, it's
going down right now. We're also going to take a
look at what's going on in Missouri because, um, I
don't know, if you saw that couple who was pulling
guns on peaceful protesters. They've been charged with a crime. Uh,
and we'll see what happens to them. Spoiler alert nothing.

(03:44):
And uh. We'll also check in with Trader Joe's because
they've they're under some they're under some stress right now.
You know, people have been catching onto their the like
whimsical ethnic food uh iterations of Trader Joe's on labeling.
They're like, Okay, so now we're putting white supremacy under microscope.
Can we also talk about Trader Jose's and all this

(04:04):
other ship? So we'll get into that and also about
Trader Joe's. I did not even know. But first before
we do any of that, Eves, what is something from
your search history that is revealing about who you are? Okay,
So this is something that's been top of mind for
me lately, and I've been doing a little bit of
research into exercise induced urtecaria. I think I'm pronouncing that correctly. Ertecaria. Um.

(04:31):
It's basically what I gather from it. It's is that
it's allergy to to exercise. UM. There's this thing, this
really strange thing that happens to me any time I
get back into running. In the background, well, I say
get back into running as if I actually like to run,
and I actually do it, really I don't. But any
time that I do, UM, any time that I do run,

(04:54):
I get this like really really really crazy itch um
that like doesn't all the way that I kind of
have to train out of and run for a couple
of days. And so it's been super super annoying. And
I I would have to take an anti histamine anytime
I took even like two weeks off of running, and yeah, yeah,

(05:16):
and and that would yeah, that would get rid of
it completely. It would be like Papa anti histamine about
thirty minutes before run and then go out and run.
And usually I like to run tracks because I don't
I like, like I said, I don't like to run,
and like it just freaks me out to run anywhere else.
And so like after about eight hundred, I was like,
good to go on the itches and it will be unbearable.
And that's been something I've been dealing with for a while.

(05:38):
So I realized how much I've been thinking about it,
and like how much it was in my Google search
history recently because it's something that I refuse to see
a doctor about. I'm like, no, I'm better than this,
Like I can do it on my own. I'm fine.
I can run through it. If I run through, and
I'm a better person, Like I don't know, that's that, yeah,

(06:01):
but it's just super annoying, and it's I've never heard
of this before. I mean, can you describe this just
the second you said it, I'm like, this is very
novel for me. But like, is it an isolated part
of your body that begins or you have like a
full body itchiness? So I have to say that I'm
also self diagnosing. Like I said, I haven't talked to you,
that's fine, talked to anybody official about it. But from

(06:24):
what I gathered from my very accurate Google searches, um,
it's it's like it's usually in my legs and I'll
fill it in my core as well. But It'll feel
like a million fire ants are just inside of me
and I can't scratch it away. Yeah, I can't scratch
it away. Um, And I realized, well, I'm linking in
my head. Um, that's fine, that's what we do here.
This is not a medical podcast or an actual no, no

(06:46):
no one's a professional here. It's a second rate rant sEH.
So I also like my nose runs like crazy anytime
I'm doing any sort of cardio, Like when I would
go to high intensity interval training classes, I would always
be the one running out of the classroom to the
bathroom to blow my nose and was like, what what's
going on with me? Like nobody else is doing this?

(07:09):
Obviously that was in the before times. I'm not going
to any group exercise classes right now. But yeah, well
I mean you can do that, h I I t
on on phones now I've been Uh. The first time
I did it was on an app and that was
that was an intensity I was not ready for. I
should have but it was written their high intensity. I

(07:29):
don't know why I thought HI doing it. I didn't know, h.
I Like, I didn't know what that was until quarantine
And then now there's all these ripped YouTubers screaming at
me every night. You just put it on and just
go to sleep. You don't Actually you're like, I don't know.
They just know I do I do the exercise. But

(07:51):
it's like, yeah, it's like this series of YouTuber that
I watched. Well, sometimes they'll like throw it in in
like and so they're like, we're going to whitch to
like h I T T. I was like, I don't
know what that is. And then they're like, we're gonna
kill you. Yeah, you're like ready to fucking ready for
the ladder, and you're like leveled up from Jane Fonda
and now I'm into some scary That's what I was saying,

(08:12):
because you've definitely you've you've marched through the Kingdom of
Fonda aerobics, and now you're saying like, is this is
this your queen? Is this all you have to offer me?
And now you're looking passed a need for the Jane
Fonda table. There's more out there. It is. It is
a little weird to be yelled at and know that
that person doesn't have the actual feedback of you being

(08:32):
more motivated. It's like, yeah, you're yelling at me. I
feel really encouraged, but there's no way, no way you
can receive that right now, and it's kind of weird
on your end. Yeah. Well, I mean this is my question,
do you Jamie? Does this ever end with you doing CrossFit?
I feel like that is a step too far, but
I don't know at this point. I wouldn't rule anything

(08:53):
out there, like Sonny would neg you into doing CrossFit
your dog. I'll recommend someone just because I was embarrassed
to be watching fitness YouTube, but then I found out
that frequent guests Sara June, uses the same fitness YouTuber
as me. Her name is Chloe Ting and she's so
nice And is that the person they asked if there's

(09:15):
a robot that I see an article today, like, is
Chloe Ting a robot? Why would they say that about her?
We're getting getting too caught up in fitness YouTube. Yes,
it is good. Whoa is Chloe Ting a robot? And
other facts about YouTube's She's not a robot? She seems
really nice. She's a robot? We have I gotta call

(09:38):
Isaac Asimov, stat Uh, what is something that you think
is underrated? M So I had to think really hard
about this. Um. But I think that saying I don't
know is underrated. Um, this is big. This has been
a new trend yet. Yeah, yeah, I think it is.
And and obviously it's really true that there is a

(10:00):
world of info like at our availability that we have
a media access to, Like that's definitely true. A Google
is a click away, like we have all of that
at our hands. And I feel very fortunate, you know,
to be able to look up whatever I want to,
including exercise induced or to carry it um to figure
that out. But I think that when you know, it's

(10:24):
definitely important when it comes to when we're uninformed on something,
like being able to say I don't know, it's just
I don't know. I mean, it feels kind of freeing
in a way where it's like I do. I would
say that I feel a lot of the time the
pressure to know everything because I know that I do
have all of that information at my fingertips. But I
also think in a larger way, in a scope, just

(10:44):
saying I don't know it's kind of freeing because there's
so much that there is uncertainty around right now when
it comes to the future, like and I think about
that specifically around abolition, like we have. We have a
lot of ideas about what we want to work, how
we want it to work, the kind of true that
we want to build, and the kind of world up
that we want to see. Um. But I think that

(11:06):
there is something very valuable in being able to say
I don't know around I have no fucking idea if
those ideas are going to work. I have no idea
how long they'll take to work. I have like, I
have no idea of what I'm saying right now is
the right thing, if it's the wrong thing, if you
want to put things in the binary like that. But
I think that there is a way in which, yeah,
saying I don't know around specific issues right now is

(11:27):
so important because there are so many people fucking talking
who don't need to be and then there's so many
people's voices who who need to be hurt that people
aren't listening to, and yeah, um like making sure that
those voices are uplifted as important and saying I don't know.
But it's also envisioning is being able to envision and
being able to assume risk, which I think obviously as

(11:49):
black people, I and if I can speak for the collective,
we are so risk averse for so many important reasons.
You know, we want to survive and we want to thrive.
But I think that saying I don't know, it's like,
you know, we can open ourselves up to risk, and
we can open ourselves up to uncertainty. And that's so
that like that's okay, that can be okay, and we

(12:09):
can tell ourselves that that that's okay because right now
we have a lot of information that we do know
that we don't want. Uh. And in a way there's
comfort and saying like, well, I know how this system
is operating already, all that data has been there's centuries
worth the data, and on top of it, to your
point of the idea, especially around a lot of racial justice,
like this has been a field of academia for decades uh,

(12:34):
and there have been many people putting their life's work
into these into you know, theorizing these things and uh
and investigating them and trying to figure out what is
a tangible way to dismantle these systems of oppression. And
but then and I've said I think I said this
very earlier on that's where there's another layer of racism
that this form of academia runs into. Another like form

(12:56):
of gate keeping about sort of like what are these
black and brown people are gonna tell me about how
the justice system and there's things get held up and
we don't know that message doesn't reach the people it
needs to at you know, I think at the moment
they need it. And now I think with a lot
of this renewed enthusiasm or new enthusiasm from new people
who are joining this movement, yeah, it really is important

(13:19):
to say, hey, you don't have to commit. No one's
asking you to come in here a fully formed ally
who knows every dimension of oppression and how to like
dismantle it. The first thing is that you show your
enthusiasm for it. You're and then you're all open. You
are open to hearing things and you are open to
learning new things, just like everybody else is. Because I
think the way we get to where we are is

(13:40):
at a certain point. Motherfucker's go already know everything, so
I don't need to keep I know what's best. I
will keep going down this path and just funding the
police and law enforcement and let the budgets keep getting
bigger and bigger and bigger, and you know, no support
for social safety nets etcetera. Uh, for sure. Yeah, And
I think that we often operate in the way where
we say we don't know so easily, Like we we
care a lot about science and about the parameters that

(14:04):
happen around science and know that it is a thing
that it's infinitely changing, and we know that that's the
foundation of science, is something that will never know everything.
And the reason that we have science and that we
have experimentation and that we have continuous learning is because
we know we don't know everything. And like, just applying
that to this, I thought, what can't tell me anything new?

(14:26):
I already heard everything. I've already seen every episode of
Lawn Order, So conversation is over. Yeah. And I think
what's also interesting too is, you know, smart people especially
I think, actually have the hardest time saying they don't
know anything, especially if your self perception is like, oh,
people come to me for information or I'm I've been told,
I've been of like I'm sharp or whatever. I find

(14:48):
that that is a thing even for me, like I've found,
you know, through years of therapy, being able to be
able to say, yeah, I don't know that, even though
like you have, I know, for me personally, as a child,
like trying to know everything or get good grades. Like
started a habit of like trying to know everything, but
it didn't give me to the healthy place of like
actually the pursuit of knowledge and wisdom, which is to

(15:11):
then put your ego in the fucking trash and say,
bring me all of the information so I could just
blow my mind open. Yeah, well, I feel like, oh no,
I was just gonna say, yeah, I agree with him.
I was like, I want to say that I'm totally
implicated in that as well, and thinking like I'm a
black woman. I know about blackness, and like, you know,
my experience is mine and really getting caught up in

(15:32):
my singular perspective and like really having to unlearn and
learn things in terms of like, okay, I'm staying from
my specific worldview. A transperson's life, a black life is
nothing like my black life is. And a person who
is like from a different part of Georgia, like, even
if it's that small um than I am, because I
grew up in the suburbs of Atlanta, like their life

(15:54):
is going to be very different than mine, even if
they're a black woman as well. And just like snapping
myself out of that. Mhm, yeah, I've I've felt that, like,
and I wonder if it is connected to like how
we are programmed to learn in America, where I think
that there are times where if you don't know something
and someone tells you like that's not right, or like

(16:17):
I don't think you understand what is being said here,
that there is like a tendency to take that very
like personally and be like, what, I don't know something.
You know, It's like there is a tendency to take
it personally. I've felt that in in the past as well,
and it's like just unlearning that mentality of like if
someone tells you that you don't like first of all,

(16:38):
if you're not able to say you don't know something
and you get it wrong, like you have to not
make it this like battle of the ego to just say, oh, okay,
I'm listening, um, which a lot of people true with.
I mean, yeah, that's just the I think that's the
other thing too, is that it's so much it's a
lot harder actually to lead to say you don't know,

(17:01):
but it's actually the best thing you can do. I
think you know that actually is a demonstration of higher
aptitude because you can learn anything the second someone tells
it to you. But it's hard to put that ship
aside and say, I don't know what you were talking about?
Would you mind telling me about that? I think can
be you know, depending on how you look at yourself
a difficult thing, especially when it comes to the politics

(17:23):
and people's identities repped them boy, Okay, moving on. What
is something that you think is overrated? Eves? So something
that I think is overrated is d I y anything
like doing yourself? Um, I just moved and like there
is there were various things to do, Like when I

(17:44):
moved into my new place and I was like, I
can do everything. And this is coming from a place
I can probably say that I've kind of gotten out
of this, but like often growing up, I didn't want
to ask anybody for help, and I still struggle with
that often. And I'm like, I can build this ship
on my own. I know what I'm doing. This isn't
going to fall apart in the rain, right, yeah, Like

(18:08):
I know how to do all of this, Like I'm
going to paint the whole house, And I'm like, girl,
you you first of all, you don't have to do everything,
Like there's there's no way you can do everything. And um,
I think the struggle that I have with it is
like I know that most of the time, but I
also really enjoyed making things, and so there's this back

(18:28):
and forth between if I d I why it, I'll
have so much fun, Like I'll be crafting it in
and I'll prove to myself that I actually have leisure
time and I'm not always about productivity and work and
like that type of thing. Are you able to relax? Eves? Yes?
Actually yeah, yeah. I the way you were sort of

(18:50):
like going through your mental path having like and I
am able to do leisure activities. I was like, oh wait, okay,
so how do you how do you get down? How
do you relax? Eve? Yeah? I do. I will say
it's very intentional. That's something that I like, I've learned
a lot through a lot of my yoga teachers. Honestly, Um,
how important rest is just following a lot of people
who I you know, I like what they're doing, like

(19:13):
what they're saying about when it comes to rest and sleeping,
and knowing that I can't be here on this earth
to do things for people if I don't relax. So
I have to be really hard and soft at the
same time. And myself when it comes to relaxing, um so,
I think like it doesn't even have to be super big.
Like I love naps, so I'm like, I'm good for
a nap. Nobody can tell me that I can't nap.

(19:35):
I'm going to do it. Um So that happens, um
and then I what else do I do to relax?
I like I like to sit in silence and meditate
to relax, I use the portal app. No, It's like
I'm always I can't look when I know when I
meet somebody who's a creature of solitude, it's an app

(19:57):
that's like these like I think like Emmy win sound art,
like recordists got these soundscapes from like a rainforest or
like a plane in the UK, or like a mountain
in the Alps or whatever. And it's just like like
ambient noise, which I like to meditate with because it helps,
like you know, put me in the zone. This is
not spawn is simply I know, this is like the

(20:18):
saddest It sounded like, yeah, the saddest cry for them
to get put like do some ad spend on the show.
But I'm like I'm I'm just preaching the gospel of portal.
But yeah, the d I Y thing, I think it's hard.
I I started off thinking I could do everything, and
after a few attempts at some like sort of complex

(20:39):
electrical work, I was like, no, this is not this
is not happening. I will pay somebody to Yeah, it's
not worth burning my house down or you know, injuring myself. Yes,
something I've come to terms with on d I Y
stuff because I also love to make stuff and I
love the like I could do a thing like that,
like stubborn pride that I have about some stuff. But

(21:00):
then it's it ends up even if I can do
it correctly, which often I just flat up can't. It
takes so much time. And then you're like, I've lost
days of my life to not successfully making twelve year
olds on YouTube did in seconds. So yeah, but that
you do realize that that video was like d times wads.

(21:29):
I think, I don't know. I've been getting into quilt
YouTube and they make a lot of ship look easy
that it is. Don't get into don't get too deep
into quilt tube. Um, and what is finally eaves, what
is a myth? What is something that people think is true,
you know, to be false or vice versa. So I
don't know if this is an overall myth, but it's

(21:50):
something that it's a sentiment that I've been seeing a
lot lately on the Internet that's been floating around, and
that's that black women shouldn't be told or don't need
to be told that we're strong. UM. And I definitely
understand the sentiment because it's coming from a place where
so often our oppressors specifically are the ones who are

(22:12):
telling us that, like, we don't experience pain, and that's
in a very established way, you know, when that comes
to UM, the medical industry, UM just always saying that,
and I know so many of us have had personal experiences,
but saying that are we don't experience pain, that we're strong,
that we're tough, that we can make it through this,
that we can make it through that there's the superhuman stereotype, uh,

(22:36):
that we can do all of that. And I think
that yes, in that manner, like our oppressors don't need
to tell us that we're strong, because if we take
it contextually, we know their intention behind that, and we
know that so long, what public health has meant for
Black women and black people in general. Is death like
public health equal death when it came to black people. So, um,

(22:59):
I think, yes, all of that is true, and I
just wanted to preface it with that because obviously that's
the case. And I also can't speak for anyone specific
black woman wanting or not wanting to be told that
she's strong, because that's her preference and it's up to
her and it's it's that's one how that makes her feel.
But I can't speak for myself and that I want.

(23:19):
I want black women to tell me that I'm strong
because I feel like, in a way, telling telling black
women that are saying that we shouldn't be told that
we're strong. It's kind of affirming the idea that we
are by by nature strong like it's affirming the it's
affirming the oppressor's language and saying that we should assume

(23:40):
we're strong. But I often need affirmation and confirmation from
other Black women to tell me that I am strong
because there's some sometimes I don't feel like I am,
and sometimes I need somebody to tell me that I am.
And that feels really good when it's coming from other
black women and from other black women who I know
that I love specific typically and and close to specifically.

(24:02):
And I think that there there are like caveats to
to the statement like black women shouldn't be told they're strong.
Well yes, and just like a both and type of situation,
they're some I'm just there. I think everything is really
like loaded like that too. I've had discussions with some
like professors who you know, are like so in sociology

(24:25):
and a lot of black history, and I've even heard
from them just sort of like the nature of the
kneeling and how that is even viewed like from a
historical context problematic to see that as like kneeling in
front of the oppressor as a form of protest has
all of this historical context behind it of the subordinate
servant uh and blowering themselves to the master and things

(24:45):
like that. So at every turn, right, there's all everything.
There's every there's so many dimensions to the ways that
we can either protest or find strength in our existence,
but there's always this other historical backdrop to that. I
think everyone we always have to be conscious of because
there's all these roots, like to the point of you know,
this fallacy or this like medically perpetuated myth that like, yeah,

(25:10):
black women, well we prescribe less pain killers. Um. That
that is all going back to this idea of you know, uh,
the slavery and the idea that these black bodies are
used to create revenue and are efficient at doing that,
and that continues. So yeah, thanks important myth. Yeah. Um, alright,

(25:31):
well let's take a quick break because that was a
pretty heavy over under in myth. I appreciate that. Ives.
Uh sorry, I've to someone I went to high school with,
uh different person. Um, so thank you for that, Eves.
And we will come right back and talk about some
news right after this. And we are back, and it's

(25:59):
time to check in with America's good friend, toxic masculinity. Uh.
There are so many many things happening at the moment,
and there's just a few of the top stories are
just sort of all kind of centered around this idea
of this phenomenon of toxic masculinity. The first is about
Alexandria Casio Cortez. Uh. So you know, alc has been

(26:20):
a very vocal member of Congress if you haven't heard, uh,
and conflict with GOP house members is not something new
for her or many vocal progressives in the House. Um,
but you know, I think since white supremacy is trying
to fight back, it's it's causing a lot of conservative

(26:41):
congress people and leaders across the nation to get like
really unnerved when people are like accurately describing white supremacy
or forms of oppression that aren't tied to like but
they took our jobs, rather than saying like, no, this
is systemic racism, or that you know, poverty is actually
the root cause of crime and that police actually isn't

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the answer to crime, because if we look at crime
for what it is, it's it's a lot of the
crime we're talking about is because people have lost any
sort of support system and are turning to crimes of desperation, etcetera.
This apparently upset uh Congressman Ted Yoho from Florida to
the point that he like pulled up. So Alexander Kazo

(27:25):
Coort says, she was leaving the Capitol building and then
this guy just confronts her like out in the open saying, quote,
you were out of your freaking mind. Uh. This was
after her talking about poverty and unemployment. Is the spike
for crime in New York city, not because we're you know,
we're not standing behind our police or whatever narrative there
is to vilify people standing up for themselves. And she

(27:46):
said okay, and then as it went on, she just said,
you know what, you're being rude. And after they parted
to ways and he was going down the steps, he
said he called her an FMB and then just kind
of kept moving. Uh. She was saying, like, I'm she said,
this is new. This this kind of like in your
face conversation to do because the way she put it was,

(28:07):
for the most part, a lot of the house members
are able to put their part is in, you know,
fighting appetite at the door and keep that for the
floor of the house and then when they go out,
it's not like hey mother, I'm gonna debate you right
now screaming your face. So this is some new new
it's like a new level of mask off, um like

(28:29):
coming like during official discussions. Also, I thought it was
pretty rich that Yoho's office only. First of all, Yoho like,
I'm I just giggle every time I hear it because
it's very pirate energy. Um. So, so Captain Yoho sent
a but his response, first of all, he like the

(28:51):
I mean, there's so many bad elements to this story,
but the fact that after the fact he like like
demonstrably did that um, which I mean leaves AOC with
yet another um thing to deal with and have to
have having to take time out of her day to
speak to and clarify. But then Captain Joho's office sent

(29:12):
their response straight to the Daily Caller, which is just like, well,
if you really need to make it clear that you're lying,
make a statement to the Daily Caller. And he said
that he did not call um AOC any name at
all and just flat out denied the entire thing. It's
just it's not surprising, but it is like it is
a new level of mascot, I mean toxic masculinity. Rule

(29:35):
number one, never apologize to a woman for something you've said.
I mean, that's release a statement to the Daily Callers
saying that she's lying. It is I don't know, I mean,
like there's their responses seem more like fiery uh now,

(29:56):
because I think if you for people who are able
to look at systemic racism, white supremacy and say, yeah,
that exists, and that's here and that explains a lot
of these things. If some people are just turning the
channel now and being like that explains everything I've done,
and it's not this entire worldview I've been like, like
ingesting this entire my entire life. That's not real. There's

(30:17):
this really intense backlash to it. But as I said,
it's it's it's how it's the only way you can
ensure the survival of something like white supremacies to have
its defenders like this, We're going to get in someone's
face and intimidate or attempt to intimidate them because they're
speaking truth to power. Yeah, I mean, if there is
anything to be taken that is not completely negative out

(30:40):
of this story, because it is just horrible. But the
fact that he got that shaken up by her words
to the point where he felt the need to react
just straight up aggressively in public, uh, speaks a lot too.
I mean the fact that she you know, there's a
lot of value in what she's saying and how through
she's challenging it. It doesn't at all justify the backlash.

(31:04):
But it's like if Captain Yoho feels that strongly where
he cannot stop himself from saying aggressive language like that
to her. I mean well, I mean, I think seeing
the waning influence or like the sanctity of not criticizing
law enforcement since that is waning. That is really I
think upsetting to a certain brand of racist who sees

(31:24):
the police as the good stewards and shepherds of racism,
who will intervene when called and and do what they
have to um and even like this week, like I
was calling into a l A County Board of Supervisors
meeting where you know, there's been this proposal to amend
the budget to shift money away from the Sheriff's department.

(31:45):
You know, they don't need three hundred thirty million more
dollars that can actually be shifted into communities. And it's
interesting when you hear the people call in to give
public comment who are opposed to it. It's all through
this lens of you know, I'm concerned about my sayde
or what have you, But really it's like I need
my I need my attack dogs, and if those are gone,

(32:06):
then who do I How can I terrorize black and
brown people or people who are different than me in
and using you know, the the I guess the vagueness
of law to you know, enact that. So it's it's
I think it's happening at every level as depending on
how deep the reckoning is. Uh that any sort of
body decides to engage in terms of reckoning with racism. Well,

(32:31):
he certainly made himself look like an absolute clown here.
Ah yeah, and you and you hate to see it,
you really do. And Okay, and then so moving on
to uh, you know, Judge Estra Solace's husband was shot
and her only son was murdered a few days ago.
And you know, in the beginning, many people are like,

(32:52):
what is going on? How did this? What? What is
going on? This federal judge had like a like a
hit basically at her home. Was it the dot to
bank case that she's overseeing. Doesn't have you know, people
like don't have someone to do with Epstein? Uh, this,
that and the other. And then a picture began to
emerge of this lawyer with a well documented past of misogyny,
like a men's rights active, like before the term was

(33:14):
really out there, this guy was out here using his
legal degree to you know, cape for misogyny. Um that
this man was the suspect. Uh. They found him a
few hours later, uh from dead of a self inflicted gunshot. Wound,
and the they figured out this man actually had a
case in front of her, but it was a lawsuit

(33:35):
in which he was representing a woman and her daughter
because they wanted to like register for the like selective Service,
and because they couldn't, they wanted to just basically say
that it was unconstitutional because it barred women from registering,
And it was just very weird like lawsuit just because
it like sort of fits in this his body of work. Um.

(33:56):
And this guy, this, this guy, roy Den Hollander. He's
been like he's been sort of on the radar of
like political commentators, like legal commentators for a minute, because
for years he's been doing these really like lame lawsuits,
like you know for people who have been like studying
his history. Apparently things went south when he, like his

(34:19):
he got divorced from his wife, who he like felt
like just got got with her, got with him to
get a green card. Um, and then like that sort
of was sort of like the inciting incident for him
to go down this like legal march for men's rights.
Like he sued Columbia University for that, accusing them of
preaching quote a religionist belief system known as feminism. Uh,

(34:42):
and because they were using like, uh, you know, money
from the federal government to do that. He was like, oh,
this is completely this is a total perversion of the
separation of church and state. Uh. He's sued bars for
having ladies nights. Um, this is just kind of the Yeah.
But it if I think, what's like really sort of unnerving, right,

(35:03):
It is like it starts off with this sort of
fringe h character who is using the law to and
you know, just sort of making headlines with these ridiculous lawsuits.
But that gives way to sort of like this like
this was before we were there terms like in cell
or m r A or anything like that was really
part of like the discourse or anything like that. This
was just more like this, this guy is doing that, um,

(35:25):
and now we're seeing it come play out to the
point where he's uh, you know, allegedly committing these crimes.
It's just very I don't know, this is a very
dark Yeah, that's super dark. It does sound like and
I don't know if that's the feeling that you got
from from from learning about it, but that kind of
idea of whatever he went through, I think he said

(35:47):
with his wife being the inciting incident for for everything
that he did. Does it seem like that's kind of
a thing that they're trying to move accountability from his
actual actions And I think it is incident. No, I
wouldn't say that. That's like anything that the news has
said in terms of trying to like this is just
from like the body of articles I've read about him,

(36:09):
where like this is from years ago where someone was
like doing a profile on him, and he himself was
saying like this, like this was something that happened to him,
and I'm not and I don't I don't see and
I don't want to go down that road to like
singularly attached it to this trauma or whatever. But it's
He's definitely has this, uh just vendetta for anything that

(36:30):
is related to like women exercising agency over their bodies
or this idea that a business would accommodate a woman,
uh like like to and say like, well the men
should get that too, and they're like, why isn't there
men's you know, like that's just sort of the mean
or even asserting themselves over his personal opinion seems like
worthy of retaliation on his end, like it's, yeah, this

(36:53):
story is very very dark end and it it is
I mean, I would be interested in I didn't know
about this story, I would be interested in learning more
about you know, it's it sounds like he's it's the
sort of thing where you start by sort of testing
the waters of like, Okay, what can I accomplish legally
to to uh, you know, further my beliefs and make

(37:17):
it clear that I am not on the side of
feminism it's a religion, on and on, and then you know,
it's it's it does seem like Estra Solace is possibly
a wall of like, oh I can't get what I
want accomplished in a legal way. Um, yeah, this is
this is so sad. Yeah, it's I think it just

(37:37):
shows too, like there are things that we start off with,
like certain fringe idea ideologies and things that it's easy
to dismiss because on its face, it's like it's so absurd,
and it's like kind of goes against everything what most
accepted discourses or the tone of society is right now.
But it shows you that it goes from laughing at
something too then turning into something very violent and dangerous

(38:00):
because it can gain momentum and I think it's important
that you know, just just being vigilant about these things,
not necessarily this uh, this specific person, but there are
a lot of things that I you know, uh uh
ideologies that you see now that was easy five years
ago to laugh out, and now we're seeing, like, you know,
Q and on, uh, followers of Q and on begin

(38:22):
to make like make headway into actually becoming members of
Congress and next. I just this has been something I
has been going on last week, but I just want
to talk about Ruth Bader Ginsburg really quick. Um. She
if you have any reason to vote uh in November,

(38:43):
at the very least, you do it so this woman
can hang up her robe and live out the rest
of her days in peace. This uh the Supreme Court
justice man she has been hanging on. Uh Now she
says she's been very strong, and I leave that, but
I feel like someone at this point, I think if

(39:03):
there were any other administrations, she might be more open
to retiring. But given the tone of how this Senate
works and what this president's aims are, it's all about
putting in more absolute just rubber stamps for whatever the
Conservatives want done in this country or want dismantled. So
if anything would happened to her, we all know that
Mitch McConnell would be more than willing to fill this vacancy.

(39:25):
And she last week she went to the hospital for
a possible infection that ended up being okay, but still,
I mean, I just remember that like every news thing
I read Twitter, anyone's like, oh my god, are we
anytime they hear that Ruth Bader Ginsberg is in the hospital,
It like, uh, people have a very visceral reaction to it.
I think given that what has happened with when Justice

(39:47):
Kennedy retired, uh, and then seeing that whole confirmation of
Brett Kavanaugh, and even Gorset's before that. But it's just
a very very uh, I think for people who have
their head in the game in terms of looking how
a lot of these legal cases and up at the
Supreme Court, that this is something that isn't uh we can't,
I guess not. It's not that we're taking it lately,

(40:07):
but it does have it could have dire consequences if
something awful were to happen. Yeah, RB, I mean, I
it is never not baffling to me that you know
the fact that it very like a figure like Ruth
Bader Ginsburg remaining alive and healthy, um could possibly affect

(40:30):
so like literally everyone in the country is like for
the health and well being of one uh, like elderly
person people's rights hang in the balance. That just doesn't
seem like a good system. Uh. And I mean it's
like I'm like kind of critical of like the cult
of RBG. There's a lot of good stuff written about it,

(40:52):
where I just you know, like, no, you know, making
politicians like clebrities above reproach is never a good move.
But in this case, it's i mean just speaking to
her her health and and the fact that her health
is connected to the well being of the country. Like,
it's just it just reminds me of how flawed that

(41:14):
system is. That just like we shouldn't have a system
where that's the case. Yeah. Yeah, And it just feels
like a power on I mean, just emotionally collectively, it's
like how much more can we take? You know, just
thinking of it from a non logical standpoint and a
purely emotional one is just like this on top of
everything else, um that's happening in I think is it

(41:36):
would seem almost unbearable and having to think about that
even potentially being a part of our future. I think
it's just it's a huge toll. Yeah, And I think
yet to your point, Jamie, like that's why a lot
of people who are trying to sort of find ways
to amend this system we have or like we need
terms like it can't just be lifetime appointments, because then

(41:58):
the balance of power can be complete be thrown off.
You get another conservative judge in there, and it's fucking
lights out effectively for a lot of progressive causes and issues.
I mean, like then it's not just like it, it's
it's every single thing. It could be, from the water
you drink, to the people we like are welcoming into
this country who are seeking asylum, to the rights of

(42:19):
trans people, to the to the systemic racism that's going on,
or like every single thing. And it just shows you
how when the system is like that, how easily it
can be manipulated, because conservatives can just play a game,
will be like, well, maybe Ruth Bader Ginsburg has to
retire or something, and then we can strike and then
install somebody, and then the deck is completely stacked lopsided

(42:42):
for generations, right, Yeah, I find I find it very
um ghoulish. How like our entire country now has to
like frantically be refreshing their news feeds to see if
like someone is sick or not, Like it's Ruth Bader
against Burg. Should should be allowed to retire? She is

(43:04):
very old. Uh so many but but the consequences of
that are so great that of course she's not going
to Um. Yeah, the way the Supreme Court is set
up is um stupid. I don't like it, hot take.
She she did want to tell people like you know,
uh because when the next time she went into the hospital,

(43:24):
it's the news came out that she was undergoing chemo
for her liver cancer. As she had a statement that's
had quote, my most recent scan on July seven indicated
significant reduction of the liver legions and no new disease.
I'm tolerating chemotherapy well, and I'm encouraged by the success
of my current treatment. I will continue bi weekly chemotherapy
to keep my cancer at bay, and and I am
able to maintain an active daily routine. She's been treated

(43:46):
for cancer five times, um, and it just feels like
a lot of responsibility to be put on somebody to say, like,
I'm sure she's thinking, well, if I leave, who are
they going to put in? And then what happens? And
that's just it. Yeah, And I feel guilty for for
for wanting her, you know, to stay through that. I'm like, damn,

(44:09):
what kind of person am I to know that a
person has been through something that is so so taxing
on your body and want them to continue using their
body and all of their strength and energy to fight
for an entire country. It's it's like, it feels very
weird to yeah, to like be on your feet like

(44:31):
this EIGHTI seven year old woman can't retire, Like can't
I want to die on? I'm not sure? No, Like yeah,
I hope she's well like yeah, yeah, but again it's

(44:51):
it's your show. I remember when Kennedy said he was
going to retire. I almost like I was like like
a wave washed over me. I'm like, oh my god,
now they get another se Preme Court pick. Uh. And
that brought along with it another just awful, awful public
display of lack of morality or humanity. Um so yes,

(45:11):
it is. It is very harrowing to be like just
praying every day that this person can make it to
the election. Uh and pass that. All right, Let's let's
take another quick break and we'll come back to talk
some other stuff after this. And we are back, And

(45:41):
do you guys remember Patricia and Mark McCloskey that name Ringabell.
I didn't. I couldn't. I couldn't tell you these people
by their name, except I remember the photo with the
woman's mustard stained shirt with no trigger discipline, pointing a
handgun at unarmed peaceful protesters and her husband, big dog Ark,
with his cool little khaki and pink polo number, Uh,

(46:04):
just brandishing a R like is it like it ain't nothing? Um?
It was. It was a very It was the probably
one of the more photos we had seen of this
like frightened, uh, like upper middle you know, upper class suburb,
white flight family just being like, oh my god, they're
they're here. Uh, and so sort of seeing like how

(46:26):
it plays out in people's minds based on their media diet.
But we've heard their side of the story about why
they had to do the brave thing to defend their
castle because the pro the peaceful protesters breached the gates
of their anti poor fort or gated community and therefore
was caused for concern and the brandishing of weapons. Uh So,

(46:50):
now it turns out that they have been charged with
unlawful use of a weapon, which is a felony. But
fear not because the governor of Missouri, Mike Parsons, since
you said, oh yeah, if if they're convicted, I will
probably in all likelihood pardon them, He's like, well, they
look like my neighbors, so probably I'll just let them

(47:10):
get away with it. I am so sick of hearing
about these people. Um, can we just like put them
in a panagram and bury the panagram? Like, I'm just
so sick of these people? Yeah? Yeah, I feel like
this is one of those situations two miles like you
were talking about earlier, how it starts off as something
that just seems very very joking, joking, and like we
we got all these pictures and we got all these means,

(47:31):
but like, wait, hold on, they were pointing guns at people,
and whenever you point, you're ready to You're ready to
kill them, even when your finger isn't on the trigger. Yeah.
I mean, if you are the response responsible gun owner
that you claim to be, you know that pointing a
gun at someone means death, period, Right, And then seeing
the I mean, it's like that I understand that, Like

(47:53):
I don't know, the memification of it was always going
to happen if it to an extent makes sense. But
to see the conversation like being making fun of this
couple for not knowing how to hold their guns and
then just kind of skipping over the fact that they
were holding guns, like, it's like, yeah, I think, but
that all depends on your level of engagement with the issue.

(48:15):
Like if you are assist gender, the heterosexual white guy
who likes guns and you've never known oppression, you look
at that image and you laugh because in your mind,
you would have been busting licking shots at these people
because they better not be coming on and I damn
sure know how to use a gun. That's why my
criticism of this image is that they weren't doing enough
or even if I was responsible gunner, my the thing

(48:36):
that is offensive to me is the gun usage. And
that's what's interesting to see how everyone brings thing. Most
people have sound conscience will go and say, oh, my goodness,
these people are just pulling out the straps because these
people are peacefully protesting against systemic racism, and your response
is to pull out the strap. That must mean you

(48:58):
are there to defend white supreme See that's in my mind,
that's what I see too. Like do you also can
see this fear in these people of whatever, this fear
of a black planet, brown planet sort of mentality is
of like, it's the fourth quarter for us, honey, and
we're not We're no longer the m v PS. Is
this really? It's yes, the fact that they continue to

(49:21):
perpetuate this idea, like all of the protesters are the
ones who are trying to start the civil war when
you are the ones with the guns in your hand.
And I'm pretty sure if a civil war happens, is
going to happen with arms and ammunition. Yeah. And I
mean even now, like you look at the federal you know,
the Fed police, the DHS or ice troops that Trump

(49:42):
is sending into cities. I mean, how long till some
you know, some racist people want to cosplay as those
people and say, oh, well, these people don't have to
identify themselves, and they're disappearing people and snatching them up
off the street. What's what's stopping me from dressing up
like them? Even though I'm not law enforcement and enacting
the same ship because this everything is so kay addict
right now, it's just very you see all the elements

(50:03):
there for something awful, awful, awful to happen. But it
seems like every time like people who are the activists
and the people in the streets are finding a way
to not take it there, even though clearly the opposition
is always sort of goading people into some kind of
direct violent confrontation. But again, yes, right right, it's like

(50:25):
we're always on this precipice. Yeah, it is, and it
does feel like that. Now, let's just check in with
Trader Joe's because again, you know, I think anyone that
has patronized the Trader Joe's knows that they like to
funk around with the names and be a real witty,
especially with the ethnic food. And it seems like those

(50:47):
days are coming to an end again because many people
are trying to have a reckoning and saying like, is
whiteness the default for everything? Is that the baseline for everything?
And if so, let's look at that and begin to
examine that and deconstruct that. Um So, Trader Joe's, you
pribaly seen names like Trader Ming's Arabian Joe's, Trader Jose's,
Trader Joe Those and Trader Joe Soon shout out to

(51:10):
the Japanese half, you know, like it's on there all
kinds of yeah, you've never seen your Trader Joe's. Wait what,
I haven't been in a minute, but oh yeah, always
yes that like if it's like a haban Eiro thing,
or it's like something like like Mexican food, like an
enchilada or something on the thing, it won't they Trader Joe's,
the Trader Jose's and like, um, and I think for

(51:32):
there's a huge petition going around being like people need
to sign up against this bullshit because it's so fucking
disconnected from like the times right now, and also in general,
like it's written from the point of view where whiteness
is the default. So if whiteness is the default, then
this thing that is haban Neiro sauce now has to
be Trader Jose's. Or if it's Gilza or pot stickers,

(51:56):
now it's Trader Joel Soon. Uh. And it's just just
like lead, I think, like lame mass marketing ship that
was like left over from the nineties, when like your
entire boardroom is just like white marketing people who aren't
going to take a second to be like, is that
is that the best thing? Oh? Yeah, yeah, so that's
and and wasn't this um this petition to UH was

(52:17):
also started by a teenager? Oh yeah, I didn't have
no idea. I believe I was pretty excited for both
for the person who started the petition and the fact
that it accomplished something relatively quickly. But it was it
was I believe it was a teenager who created an
online UH petition and it got a huge response, and

(52:40):
then Trader Joe's kind of responded relatively swiftly. The fact
that this existed in the first place is so yeah. Yeah,
it does kind of feel like like like, well, we
would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for
those mentally kids, because there's a part of the warders.
Why spend the time on creating all this different kind

(53:03):
of marketing in the first place where you could just
stay standard, Like was it actually helpful to them in
terms of marketing in anyway? I mean, I know they're
never a need for justification of white supremacy, and it
perpetuates itself for no reason, But it's that exotification of
whiteness mhm right in a very cute way too. That

(53:24):
it's just like in such it's the same way like
you know white people will get together and like laugh
and you know be like oh Audi Goto and just
like ha about it, you know, having their sushi dinner
or some ship. That's the same mentality to be was
like you don't be really fun is if we don't
call him Trader Joe. And I don't know if you
remember the Karate Kid, but that Japanese guy Mr. Miyaji

(53:46):
or whatever, he was like Daniel San. So we'll call
it Trader Joe San. And now it's it's like cool,
It's like it's like authentic now right, It's like this
is a grocery store. So well here's the thing. So
along with that petition, they talk about this sort of
like the mentality of Joe the man behind the first

(54:08):
Trader Joe. Like how that first store, the first Trader
Joe store, had a nautical theme. Most Trader Joe's stories
do have some kind of like net netting or like
buoy's or some ship like kind of on the wall. Um,
but the first one was run. Yeah, they had the
nautical theme everybody were called like, they were described as
traders on the High Seas. And at the time, Joe

(54:31):
of of Trader Nous had been reading a book called
White Shadows in the South Seas and this is all
from this petition website, and he'd been to Disney and
he had been to the Disneyland Jungle Trip ride, and
it all just coalesced. To this day. Trader Joe's crew
members consider themselves traders of the Culinary Seas and are
known for their bright and are known for their bright

(54:52):
tropical themed patterned shirts. Oh story, yeah right, I look like, yeah,
that's that's so embarrassing and the like, yeah, the only
time referencing the jungle, like the Jungle Cruise ride. If
you're referencing that, it better be about how it woke
you up about how you need to like like liberate

(55:14):
animals from captivity or some sh it like that. Not
like and that gave me a cool idea. Yeah, for
like five, this is a whole last vibe actually, so
just to clarify, Yeah, it was a seventeen year old
high school senior named Brianna. I'm not I don't know
if I'm saying her first name correctly. Brianna's biddell Uh,

(55:34):
the seventeen year old started this, and now Trader Joe's
uh is going to stop being casually racist, like it's, uh,
that's a jungle trip, really, I mean it's like and
then look up the history of the trip. What's even
funnier is this book that he was reading, The White

(55:55):
Shadows in the South Sea. There was a film that
was made out of it, and it's about like the
terrible legacy of like sieve trading companies and like pulling
up in the South Pacific and just decimating cultures, taking resources,
pillaging and then bouncing off with their spoils so they
can begin to profit off of their uh, their trade
routes and like. But the movie is kind of weird

(56:17):
too that people are saying that even though like it
obviously just talking about the negatives of these trading companies,
it also has like these other really bad tropes of
like Noble Savage and like the White Savior ship. Uh So,
in the end of the day, like this is the
trader thing at all comes from a I don't know,
some dude who got really into his seafaring ship. And
then I mean it makes sense in that sense the

(56:39):
logic their funge like, well, yeah, we're plundering the earth
and stealing shipped from people, so why not bring it
back to our shores with like these funny names that
they can all laugh at. Well, the good thing is
the petition did go somewhere. But well, I guess more
in the sense that someone from Trader Joe's claimed that
like they had already resolved or like resolved to end

(57:00):
this naming convention for their products, and they're like, it
was actually years ago, but it just needs some time
to reach all of the packaging and products, like as
we roll out new designs, then they're gonna be there.
So like, but yeah, but we knew, but we knew,
but we knew sort of like we gotta we gotta,
we gotta got it. We just haven't done it yet,
but we were going we were actually going to do
that anyways, So thank you for your suggestion. But I

(57:21):
actually thought of that two years ago. So thank you.
Oh man, well Eves, thank you so much for joining
us today on the dailies like Geist, where can people
find you? Follow you, listen to you on the many
shows that you do. Yeah, thank you for having me.
Um you can find me. Admittedly I am pretty bad

(57:42):
at social media, but you can find me at Eves
of Co on Twitter. I am at not apologizing on Instagram.
UM just finished up This Day in History class, but
you can still listen to it at This Day in
History Class UM, also on Unpopular and you can listen
to me on those shows. That's that that, that's it, hey,

(58:04):
and people love Bridget Todd around these parts. You've also
done a show with Bridget two, Yes, I have. How
could I forget Apropunk Solution Sessions, UM, which is an
amazing show and Bridget is an amazing person. I love
hosting that show with her. And check that one out
too perfect. And is there a tweet or some other
work of the social media that you're enjoying? Yes? Uh,

(58:27):
y'all definitely gave me a run for my money on
this one and figuring it out. But um, I oh
so okay here it is so at Michael Harriet said,
one of y'all didn't turn to your neighbor and repeat
after the pastor, And now the whole country is on
the sick and shedding list, which as a as a

(58:48):
person who grew up in in the South and in
the Baptist Church against my will. Um and yeah, so
I kind of related to that heart and I think
we all can relate to the COVID bullshow happening right now.
So oh absolutely, Uh Jamie, Jamie, thank you for coming
coming by and help me, helping me out, helping this

(59:08):
old substitute teacher out while before the kids realize he
doesn't know what he's talking about. Where can people find
you and follow you? And with some social media stuff
that you like. You can find me on Twitter at
Jamie Loftus help. You can find me on Instagram at
Jamie christ Superstar. I'm looking for something I enjoyed that

(59:30):
I first saw on social media. Um was that Ashley
Ray did an interview with MICHAELA. Cole for L magazine
this week. It was just like writer, I love and
I've really been enjoyed. I've like, I'm a big fan
of MICHAELA. Coles. It's a really good interview. Um, if
you can find it on I I found it linked

(59:50):
on Twitter originally, and um, yeah, it's a good read.
It will make you want to deactivate all your social
media accounts in a good way. So yeah, man, that's you.
You realize how easier it is to relax when you
don't like doom scroll all day. Uh, it's a little
bit of care. Okay, Well, some tweets that I am enjoying.

(01:00:15):
The first one is from at Luca is amazing. It
says pronouncing popsicles like an ancient Greek name popsicle. I
don't know why I so uh. And the other one
is from at Krista Peter su. I think she couldn't
fit the end on there. It's in the tweeted just
me in the parents parentheses reading philosophies what I don't know.

(01:00:40):
I really resonated that was as someone who tried to
get into philosophy and college and was too high when
he came to class and didn't have enough dedication to
the topic to endure all that. But you know, I
see you out there. Uh. You can find me on
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is like background textures. You know, if you want to
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