June 25, 2025 • 50 mins
Miles and Jack were honored to be joined by SBNation's Harrison Faigen for the final episode of Miles and Jack Got Mad Boosties. The trio discussed what wound up being an epic (injury disappointment aside) Finals series to wrap up the 2024-25 NBA season. They also discussed all of the recent trade news and offered predictions for what is sure to be a wild trade and free agency period this summer. We appreciate each of you for listening and supporting the show!
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Did you see you know that Rest in Peace Boso
the James Worthy meme?
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Yeah, did you know what that clip is from?
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Isn't it from they beat the Celtics and he lit
up a cigar?
Speaker 3 (00:18):
The common misconception?
Speaker 1 (00:21):
That's what Javari said. You know how sad this one is.
It's from February fourth, twenty eighteen where twenty one and
thirty one Lakers beat the Oklahoma City Thunder one O
eight one oh four.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Yeah that's right. Yeah, so yeah, we're smoking on that
loud pack because.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Man, but I totally thought that there was when you
said it was Satdur, I thought it was going to
be like a red hourback died and he was doing
a tribute to him on air crip and people are like, oh, like, yeah,
let's put rest in Peace Boso. Yeah, you know that
is probably the energy James would bring to that tribute.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
But you know, but it's even funnier because they're like,
you're saying, recipe because we beat the thirty and twenty
fourth Thunder at the time.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
They were only thirty twenty four. Then yeah, what a time?
But time you guys want me to record locally? Right?
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Please Okay, should I just start that now or okay
if you wire?
Speaker 1 (01:18):
I think I think we can prolong the show. If
we don't turn this show in, we don't wait Yeah,
it's like it's like yeah, no.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Guys, we're still recording it, just problem as we go.
Don't even trying it. We're trying to get it done.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Steve, I know you're gonna have to render my Yeah,
yeah one more time, guys. Yeah we still we got
edits and stuff on this. Is that really like Philibus
Spring or like yeahs our yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah exactly ship Alex Caruso.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
He was a minus three on the night.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
M James is like, the guy's a bum. Guy's a
boom rest of piece, bozone. I'm out of here, resting
peace bow So Tucker better tucking into some Tim Wharton's.
That's been my time. That's been my time. We're honor.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
This isn't a comedy club, sir, you're the defendant. Okay, sorry,
all right, that's been my time.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
All right, that's been my time. You're honor. Tipperators on
the well.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Well well well, well well.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Well and finally, well well well, episode one seventy one.
If I met a lot of people who make it
to one seventy one. No, no, A lot of people
wouldn't think we would make it to two. Do you
know how Parson? You know how old Elvis was when
he died. Don't look it up. Don't look it up.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Fifty I was.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Gonna say, fifty five.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Who's forty two?
Speaker 3 (02:54):
He looked bad.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
I don't know fourth too, it's so ye. But look
at us, look at early. Some of us are over
that age. And yet we made it to one hundreds
every one episodes and lot's right.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Nobody said we could do it.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Nobody said so. But at the end of the season,
we do have a champion. It's the Oklahoma City Thunder.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
They took care of business in Game seven, although.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
It was a kind of a downer Game seven. I
must say sad game seven. Normally I don't expect my
Game seven is to be sad.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
It was no games.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
It was definitely I think, overshadowed by the Halberd injury.
But also we've got Katie trade news if that interests you,
and maybe talking about the future of the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
I don't know who knows her this.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Is going because baby, this is the last episode.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Of I'm Miles Great and I'm Jack O'Brien and this.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Is Miles and Jack got bad Boostingtory get it.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Look at the East Okay, be driving Spinny.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Fatter numbers, p G.
Speaker 6 (04:08):
That's good show something short, champion over the double team time.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
What you got guys?
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Wow, we got it, We got it and luckily did it.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
And you know who we got on the guest chair,
The associate director of Pro Basketball for ASBI Nation, Harrison Bacon.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Finishing things off on Boost. He's like Kobe dropping sixty,
taking another fingers journey taking a.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Lot of people have been calling me washed all year,
but I think I got one laugh good performance than me.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
You got now we believe you. We didn't call you
in for nothing, Harrison. I called you in to tell
me that the Lakers will win next season. That's actually
what I repeatedly called the final for himself on the show.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Yeah. And then it'll be Lakers six or right in
the finals next season. Yeah, yeah, that's what we said.
I mean, So this is this is why so the
people a lot of people are asking why is the
show ending? Miles and I did make a promise to
each other. Yep, if by the third season of the show,
it's not the Lakers and the seventy six ers in
the finals, then we would end it yeah and get
(05:21):
married yeah instead, And so thanks didn't happen, I don't think.
But Harrison will be the efficient, so we do. We
do appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
But I guess, yeah, the finals, just touching up on
that game seven.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Game seven, baby, yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
I mean at this point, I'm sure no one's tuning
into this episode.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
So here what happened seven and six? What if somebody
just the only way they found out about NBA basketball
was listening to this podcast.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Are something, no, legit, there are probably one person at least,
there's all other one or something yeah no, and other
listeners from other shows we do are like, yeah, I
like the basketball one too, Like I get to learn
stuff about it. Brian the editor says, you're editor, perhaps,
oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Brian didn't know the NBA was the thing. He was like,
so this show is being this show's ended because the
NBA stopped having a league, right, And we're.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Like, oh no, no, no, no, no, no, that's not
how that works at all, my dear sweet child.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Yeah, basketball shutting down everyone.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
We did it it was a good one. Yeah, yeah,
I do like this clip the super producer Jabbari and
once again we shouted him out last week. But Super
the man, the show run man who makes it good, uh,
who makes it coherent? Coherent? Yes, he found a great
(06:41):
clip of Sam Presty that I wanted to play real quick.
If we do, we are we able to play it?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Do?
Speaker 1 (06:47):
We got this clip real quick, We got that clipt
this clip here we go.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Here is by the way, we were able to like
play NBA clips this whole time, and we just like didn't,
as I said, because we couldn't, because we couldn't shut
ourselves up. So well, you know, I remember when when
we were trying, we're.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Like, oh, We're like, this is not outbad so sick?
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Oh John, No, yeah no.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
And that's that's That's kind of how the running commentary was.
But here's Sam Presty in twenty twenty one, just given
a long view into the future.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
As I said earlier, we can't be reactionary or emotional
about it. We just have to keep chipping away every
single day, knowing that over time will achieve our goals.
If we have the ployse the patients and the willingness
to adjust to the setbacks that we know will inevitably encounter.
As they say, shortcuts cut long, run short, and we're
(07:43):
going to do everything in our power not to allow
that to happen. And when we do get back to
the postseason, we want it to be an arrival and
not an appearance and arrival meaning that we can return,
we can be there, we can take some you know,
some chance or bad fortune and not have it sink
us in completely.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
We've seen the benefit of that, and you.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
Know, during our our earlier years, we don't want a
position where we get there but we have no way
to get back. And that's the focus and the precision
with which we're working. We understand the ecosystem of the NBA,
I think very very well. We understand how that works.
We understand what we have to work with, and I
(08:26):
feel extremely confident and optimistic about the future that we
have here. We just have to continue to stick with it.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Okay. So that's him. So, by the way, the architect
of the Oklahoma City Thunder who just won the title,
speaking in uh at the end of the twenty twenty
twenty twenty one season, this is my impression of me
after he said that, okay, Boso whatever.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Fifty one.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Yeah, okay, so a little contact. They were twenty two
and fifty one. Yep, that's every year.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
That was year that Shae missed like the whole second
half of the season or some big chunk of it, right,
and the year that they, you know, sort of took
in al Horford and then shut him down because he
was playing too well before flipping him to the Celtics.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
So yeah, I found an article where they were summarizing
that that's like his final media appearance of the twenty
twenty twenty one season. And there's like this article in
USA Today where they're like, so he like doesn't want
like there's so many great players on the market and
like they're not even gonna do anything. Quote with Bradley Beal,
(09:31):
Kemba Walker, Christaph's Porzingis and even Damian Lillard floating in
the rumor mill the Oklahoma City Thunder have started to pop
up around social media and think pieces, but it's highly
unlikely the Thunder trade for one of these players and
then summarizing like he's you know, he spoke to the
mediaan was like we're good over here, and yeah, he
talks to.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
The media for like like three hours at the end
of every season. He'll just take like every single possible
question they have.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Yeah, well I would have been I would have been
one of the people being like really, here's from later
in that article about bial Bal has averaged more than
thirty points per game for two seasons in a row.
He did this while shooting forty eight point five percent
this season despite defenders draped around him, which was like,
the thing about bial is like, you gotta get Bal
(10:18):
because his team is so bad and yet he's scoring
all these points. That must mean that it is extra hard.
But yeah, stuck to his vision truly, just I don't know,
and everybody in the organization was willing to have the
patience Like it's it's tough, I understand it. It's easy
to be like everybody should have patience and just like
(10:39):
let the vision play out. The problem with that is like,
what if the person you're having patience with is an idiot,
you know, then you've wasted five years. So that's the
problem with patience. But they got up to the bulls,
you know, they stuck with it.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
You know, they've they've been really patient, and it seems
like it's with the wrong.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Guy patient, you know, going nowhere.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Yeah, KD.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
I feel like the KD Russ hardened Core made it
easy on them because like they were like, all right,
this guy might know what he's talking about, so we'll
let him not go after Damian Lillard, Kemba Walker, Bradley
Beale and Porzingis.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
I mean it's sild that that is, like that's like
the Grim Reaper knocking at the door meme of names.
You know, it's like every literally any of those guys
would have destroyed this title run. I think because of
how much they're making and like how many you know,
how much flexibility. The Thunder wouldn't have had to go
get guys like Alex caruso Isa Heart and seen all
(11:40):
that stuff. Like it just would have made them a
totally different team with any of those guys and probably
torpedoed this run before it began.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Yeah, I'm just so impressed, you know, like because in
the era of impatient front offices, impatient owners, impatient fans
that just this truly like this is the philosophy we're
sticking to and see it pay off just like in
this spectacular way.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Where does this like even rank.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
With other executives who are like, here's my thing. We're
gonna try this, and I think it's gonna work, and
I think this is actually gonna bring sustainable you know,
performances to this club, this franchise.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
I feel like it's pretty similar to like Brad Stevens,
like in that, you know, having a singular vision that
they stuck with for for a period of time in
Boston and like them winning the title last year, but
even they are not like it feels like he's the
only person who has them, Like who was talking about aprons,
(12:39):
because like he, they just seem so well set up
and the rest of the league is like now being like,
oh no, oh, we're gonna have to trade some of
our guys who like are good all right, and they
just seem like they've got it, like just a nesting
doll of like you know, people coming of age at
the right time in contracts like feeding into one another.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
It sort of reminds me of where Presty came from
the Spurs. It's you know, when they had their dynasty
going on and they were just like they were drafting
guys and just bring them in and developing them and
sort of cost controlling them and again different CBA to
you know, you could pay to keep a man Whu
and you know Tony Parker and a Tim Duncan and
you know, uh and a Kawai and all these guys.
But it does it's reminiscent of that of like, hey,
(13:23):
we're not going to get necessarily get stars to come
here in free agency or demand a trade to end
up here, and so we just need to take all
the bets on young talent that we can and figure
out who works.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Yeah, and it sounds like I was just like having
really dedicating the like the culture of the players too,
because this isn't like a team with a like stars
in that sense, like with egos like that. And I
feel like, yeah, it's yeah, it's hard to have that
kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Especially they all talk like Coach Carter, like Friday Night
Lights character, just like it's an entire team of just
like coach speak. It's like they all talk exactly like
Presty from the coach down to the players and all
that stuff. So you know, really it's really culture of
saying absolutely nothing interesting ever, and so maybe that's the lesson.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Not a lot of familiar names on that roster from
that year when he's given that speech. But Shay Gilles, Alexander, Louguentz, Dort, Lugats,
lou Dort and the coach were all there. And you know,
despite the fact that their offensive raiding was thirtieth of thirty,
their overall rating was like thirtieth of thirty, defensive rating
(14:28):
was twenty fourth, net rating thirtieth of thirty in the league,
like the worst in the league.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
They were real bad that year. There were a lot
of guys playing that are I'm guessing or not in
the league anymore?
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Four years ago, five years ago, like four years ago,
they were the worst in the league. They didn't land Jannis,
They didn't like just suddenly pull one of the great players.
They had the best player that currently was on their
team when they won the title a few days ago.
He was on their team that year. He was hurt,
(15:00):
but like he was, he was there and nobody was
saying anything except like, man, he's actually like developing into
a nice little player. But nobody was like, this is
the core that right, and.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Maybe he could make an All Star team one day,
you know, in the right year.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
SG and lou Dort were not Nobody was like, that's
the core. That there's your core. The core is in place,
and yeah, you know, it's pretty impressive what they just
pulled off. So shout out to the Thunder Shout out
to the Thunder fans, Shout out to Sonic fans going back,
anybody who's stuck with them.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
A crossover.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Yeah, yeah, a lot of angry SONI shout Sonic fans
who are because mainly that's what I identify with is
a spite as an NBA fan.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Not only did your team move, but they moved with
like maybe the best NBA GM ever running the team
and like apparently patient owners and like all that, like
everything that you would want from your team, and they're
just like, you know, we're just gonna take this and
move it to Oklahoma City. But you can watch from afar.
It's fine, you know. That's I I can't even imagine
how I would feel as a Sonics fan today.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Yeah, should we should we move to the other side
of the ball because I can't remember a runner up
that is as memorable as this Pacers team? Yeah for real?
Maybe yeah, no one remembers the second place, but I
don't know. Yes, I feel like, yeah, let's say, we'll
be right, and we're back. We're back. I do feel
(16:40):
like more than football, I do remember the NBA runners up.
Is that just because I like basketball better than football?
Speaker 2 (16:46):
I think so, But probably all the like.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
I remember all the teams that Jordan beat to win
the title. You know, those were all like fairly iconic
in my guys, in your.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Guys, yeah, the bad guys in the documentary, you know,
these are the guys that are trying to kill Michael
Jordan midair and then the yeah, and then they cut
back and he's like, you know, I just popped my
leg back into place. I ate some food, poison pizza,
and just got back back out there.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
You know, the Pacers were so memorable, Like I can't
remember a team having a run like this that felt
this out of nowhere, like heading into the playoffs. I
don't like, they just like had a magic about them
that like started coming out in the playoffs. I know
they were playing well. I don't think anybody saw this,
(17:35):
Like where does this rank on like second place like
teams that lost in the finals for you in terms
of like how memorable they are?
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Harrison, you know, honestly, the team that comes to mind
as a memorable second place finisher is actually the thunder
from when they lost to the Heat, because it was like, hey,
look at these young guys. It's clear that the you know,
they have something cooking here. They're going to be back
a bunch more times, right, And then they never were,
and but it that was a fairly memorable team. They
upset the Spurs. You know, they had again it was
(18:04):
like young KD, Young Russ. It's like the teams don't
win when they're this young, and they ended up not winning,
but they were really good. And I do remember that
team from that year quite a bit. I'm trying to.
I mean, I guess maybe either the Spurs or the
Heat from their finals battles, you know, those were both
sort of like, you know, like the year the Spurs
came up short in Game seven. They were obviously a
memorable runner up, but.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
It's always like iconic teams that like you had a
sense we're going to be there coming into the playoffs.
So this was like such a weird like almost like
NC double a tournament esque like Cinderella run that just
like came up.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
It felt like they were actually a great comp They
were primed for a DVD basically, you know, really season,
They're like when.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
TJ McConnell scored like five times in a row, it's like,
what is it?
Speaker 5 (18:54):
Like?
Speaker 1 (18:55):
What is I'm gonna love watching this scene in the
documentary that's in never able about this run.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
But yeah, just another achilles injury. Miles. As you pointed
out to an All Star who wears the number zero
the third one of these playoffs.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
I was just being like, what's with the number zero
this year? I mean, I Kyrie doesn't wear zero. But
I think maybe, look in my mind, maybe it's the
one weird note thing I noticed and as it happened,
But maybe it's the low top sneakers.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
I don't know, man, I don't know. This is so weird.
It's yeah, it was where do you land with the
Achilles of it all?
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Yeah, I just think that it's you know this has
been said before, but it's that the sport is so
different than it ever was in you know, the years
when sort of like we were talking about like the
Jordan year stuff like that, there wasn't this amount of
running around on defense, stop start, you know, rotations and
all of that stuff. And I do wonder if it's
just taking a toll on guy's bodies. And I also
(19:53):
remember reading like an ESPN story from Baxter Holmes a
number of years ago where it was like where it
was talking about how youth sports specialization is actually making
guys knees worse. This is like a documented thing because
kids aren't playing multiple sports and like working out multiple
different muscles anymore. It's like, you know, you're just using
those run and jump muscles playing basketball and you know
you're wearing out. There's more guys coming into the league
(20:14):
with knee issues, and I think it's like a combination
of all of that stuff. Is bodies this big weren't
meant to be discordinated and moving around and stopping and
starting all the time. And you know, it's just players
are bigger and more skilled than they've ever been, and
it's a more frenetic game than it's ever been. And
I do think that there is probably something to that.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Well, especially with the way these teams played like off
like the Pacers offense and the Thunder defense.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
If someone from like thirty years will be like, what
are they doing out there? Yeah, you just bring in
like one of the bad Boys Pistons. He's like a
legal defense.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
YEA, what do you.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Oh so we can oh so the screen we can move? Now?
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Okay, yeah, okay, I got something for that, although I
would have led to see that.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Yeah, to your point, like Michael Jordan stunk at basketball
when he was a sophomore in high school, as we
all know, got cut and only liked baseball. As the
story goes, that's not true. He just like didn't make
his varsity team. I think his freshman year or sophomore year.
He was still good. But yeah, it does seem like
specialization is more a thing everybody's like, Okay, now I'm
(21:18):
going to going from basketball practice to my one on
one basketball training session with my basketball coach. Yeah, it's
a don't I don't know exactly what it is. It
definitely just seems like it's a harder on the body,
and we're probably gonna see a world where like people
get shut down in the finals regardless of what, you know,
(21:41):
how close it is, because they have a strained calf.
Like the strained calf feels like it's got to be like, yeah,
a red line. Now.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
I mean I remember last week Sarah Todd was on
and we're talking about like it sounds like he's gonna
play with that calf.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Injury, and everyone was like, of course he's gonna play
with that, is it?
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Yeah? And if we were joking like that.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Thing is going to be fall off the bone tender
by the time he's done playing that and it went
a little bit too literally, But that just completely changed
how I like, just for me, it was such a
blow to the enjoyment of that game, and it felt
like that's kind of how it even felt in the
arena too, Like it felt very subdued, like it was
(22:22):
kind of like, yeah, we won.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
That was kind of.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
A grim way to end it all though that felt
a little bit rough. I don't know if that was
the same for everyone else, but at a certain point,
like I had to actively just like kind of walk
away for like long stretches because like, oh, this is tough.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
No.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
It almost looked like the Thunder players were going through
it too, of like yeah, thing of like did we
just watch this guy's entire career change and then now
it's you know, we got to go play do or
die basketball. It just seemed like, again, it takes nothing
away from Thunder. They were obviously totally deserving and legitimate Champiel.
It was just a really weird vibe for a game
seven of you had all these guys just clearly processing
(22:57):
it in the moment, and even like you said in
the arena, like, I think the Thunder players probably feel
bad to some degree. You know, they're professional athletes. These
guys are all human. Like, nobody wants to see that.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
And they probably also want to win that like, and
just as competitors like I want to beat the best
version of my opponent. You know, I don't ever want
to feel like we only won because this happened, although
we were.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Playing very well.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
But even like even the locker room felt very even
with those michelobe.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Joints michel ultrue joints.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Yeah, our man, Chet, even did you hear that?
Speaker 2 (23:30):
No, I saw the one of Alex Cruzo teaching them
how to open champagne. Yeah remember where you learned that, Alex? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (23:37):
No, this is right after they were talking about to
Chet about like the you know, champagne showers of locker room.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
What's going on?
Speaker 1 (23:43):
And then he hits us with a brand new pronunciation
for michelob ultra.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
But for now, I got my michelob ultra joints, My Michel.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Chet Chet is my favorite, like arks on rec side character.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
You know, it's just truly he has written like a
we were trying to figure out what it wasn't like
extras maybe like he's like Ricky Gervais, the Ricky Gervais Show,
you know, like just a heightened version of like what
a comedy writer would think was funny if he had
that personality. And uh, yeah, whoever's writing him, they're nailing
it because it's very funny.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
You could see him in parks and rec like at
those city council meetings.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
That's what I was going to say. He's at the
city council meeting like complaining about like fluoride in the water.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
No, no, he's complaining about the varietals at the library.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
There's not varieties of picture book. Yeah. We were obsessed
with his clip Harrison where he takes you through his
favorite books and he's, uh, he can't live without.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Yeah, he says, these are a type of book with
pictures that I like to call coffee table books. And
then and then is like, shows you one that's about jewelry,
and he's like, but I've got all sorts of varieties
of these and then shows you another just like coffee
table book, the books or varieties. I've got different varieties
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of books. Yeah, baby, Yeah. His car he needs to
be wearing, uh, snowboarding goggles on. Like I feel like
that's forever still yet to come for him and needs
to happen. That's the Definitely, he's like he feels like
he'd be John Ralphiel's bodyguard or something.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
We're gonna get photos of him like celebrating in like
overseas somewhere. He's like on his like you know, like
post championship European vacation and he's going to be surfing
on like two surfboards that they had to weld together
or something. You know, it's just.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Duct tape them together. Man, coming down the way. Yeah yeah,
whoa easy, baby, easy.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
I will say, shout out to him though he gave
He gave me the idea for my best bet, which
was betting on Oklahoma City last year in the off season.
Unfortunately a year too early. But man, just seeing him
in Summer League, I was like, he looks good. Maybe
they'll be good this year and uh, and they were
just not quite good enough.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
What do you think, Harrison?
Speaker 1 (26:14):
This like this sort of finals run kind of says
for a lot of people who were like, yeah, I
don't see the Pacers. It's gonna be the It's gonna
be thunder and four, five, maybe five probably at most.
Do you think they're like because I was talking to
one of my friends who was basically disrespecting the Pacers
the whole time, despite like performance after performance, and it
wasn't until game seven.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
That he was like, all right, maybe like fine, I
was like, really, it.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Took you that long? It just feels I don't know,
I mean, like this, where where do where? How should
people be really be looking at this team? Because I
feel like some people might just go back to I
don't know, like without with knowing how halliburton injuries, Halliburton's
injury is gonna pan out and just all of it,
you know, surrounding this the end of the season, does
this seem like, you know, are they gonna be right
back in it?
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Yeah? I mean what sucks with the injuries. It's a
year long one and he literally had it in the
last possible basketball game that you could play, and so
he's like all of next year is probably wiped out
for them, you know, like bar again, they are a
team out of a sports movie, and so they could
prove us wrong. And it's like, oh, TJ McConnell's an
All Star next year.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
TJ McConnell's sister is now on the team, and you're like, okay, great,
I love this, dude, that's the sports movie plotline.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
It's like, Hey, I got to invite my sister to
come play because we had an injury. You know, my
dad's a coach.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Yeah, there's a weird old by law that says if
I have the same last name as the person, they're
allowed to suit up.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Or than saying my sister can't play basketball. He's like,
they're like, no, airbud rules don't work in real life. Wow,
you know we actually do have a rule against that.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Yeah, there are there are courts where people would adjudicate
this decision.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Yeah, she has the same initials TJ McConnell, I broke
my ankle, but she can come in and play for.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
It on paper the exact same thing.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Does the NBA not do trial by combat?
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
So I think they're probably done for next year, which
does suck. But I think that I've never felt more
like one of the pundits that they show in the
montage in a sports movie when like after games that
the Pacers played, where I'm like, you know, I was
down at my parents' house, you know, I'm I'm associate
director of Pro Basketball. They're asking me for my opinion
on the finals. I'm like, oh, I got it. Sound smart.
(28:18):
I'm like, you know, PACER's cute. Sorry, I just like,
I don't even know if they can get a game.
This Thunder team, this Thunder defense is so good, and
then they win Game one and I just look like
an idiot. And you know, it's like I can see
the clips of you know, all the first take you know,
talking heads, the you know, you're the people on Fox Sports,
the whatever, you know, it's it's the montage of like
this team has no chance. And then TJ McConnell is
(28:40):
like showing a video of it in the locker room
to all of his guys and he's like, Thomas Bran,
are you gonna let them talk about you like that?
And he's like, no, I'm not. I'm gonna score nine.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Yeah, I did see. Your parents were in the comments
of our episode talking a lot of trash about your team.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
I mean deservedly. So yeah, you know, they got three
other kids, so they'll be fine. But it's just, you know,
I feel bad for embarrassing them on a national stage
like this.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
That's right, all right? Should we move beyond the finals matchup? Sure?
Look to the future. How long do we have with this? Like, yes,
the thunderlook set for the future. The West also looks
very competitive and there's a lot of intriguing people who
might jump up, such as Victor Webbing Yama. How long
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do we think until the Spurs are a contender? Because
I think some people were like, I don't know, maybe
maybe this year, and that didn't end up being the
case because of an injury, but also prior to the
injury also didn't seem to be the case. What do
we think is it this year?
Speaker 2 (29:41):
They just don't seem to be in a rush. I
think it's two more. I think it's another year after
this before they start to enter that conversation. I think
Wenby will have to keep developing obvious, although he's obviously
incredible already, but they're probably gonna lose something with Chris
Paul going out. I mean, I know they have to
Aaron Fox now, but it doesn't seem like they're rushing
to make an all and move this summer, Like they
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didn't seem to get seriously involved in the KD sweepstakes.
Maybe they would have if Yannis was actually available, but
it doesn't seem like he's going to be and so
maybe that is what would have actually led to them
making an all in swing. But for right now, it
seems like they're sort of happy to patiently slow play it,
you know, draft Harper second and sort of go like
into next year. Is hey, we're going to continue to
(30:22):
figure out like which of these young guys are actually
good and try and you know, the Thunder honestly just
made a case for them to be patient and say,
you know, hey, let's figure out, you know, sort of
if any of these drafts, how good these draft picks are,
and then where we actually need veteran help.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Right man, It's just everything went right for the Thunder,
like all those players developed like the best case scenario.
But yeah, I don't it'll be it'll be interesting to see.
And like you said, I mean, maybe the Spurs were
like the people who gave Presty the playbook, since that's
where he hails from. But I don't know. I would
(30:58):
have liked to see them get Durant KD to the Rockets.
What do we think? I feel like the Rockets won
that trade. I think they're gonna be pretty interesting. It's
a lot of pressure on KD to be like a
bucket down the stretch, but that is like the thing
that he's maybe the best of all time at Do
we think the Rockets are a contender right away?
Speaker 2 (31:19):
I think so. I mean, they were already so good
on defense last year that this was you know, it's
rare that you see a team plug their only hole
in one trade and just like immediately address all the
concerns about that. And it's just like that was there.
One thing that they could not do last year was
you know, they didn't have a go to guy down
the stretch of games. They could stay in games, but
teams continually out executed them down the stretch because offense
(31:42):
generally beats defense in those moments, and because of how
good offenses in the NBA are and how tough it
can be to play defense, And so I think KD
just sort of, you know, solves that problem. You know,
you're you're not gonna be able to guard him with
the game on the line, and so as long as
he can sort of contribute enough and they don't lose
too much in the Dylan Rooks sort of absence on
defense or you know whatever sort of ephemeral like culture stuff.
(32:05):
I think they should be probably right into the contention conversation.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
But then they're in the Western Conference, Harrison, and now
would mean if they're in this.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
I didn't say they're gonna win the title. I think
they're gonna be in the Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Yeah, but then but then that means that means the
Lakers can't be in the finals.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Well and and I and I can't.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
I'm just much too fragile right now to even handle that.
I mean, obviously seeing them keep like Aman Thompson and shanng.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Gun and all that, and I'm like, yeah, this is
trouble for sure. Yeah, how how did the Sons? I'm
not I'm going to stop asking myself hypothetical questions about
why the Sons do things?
Speaker 2 (32:42):
If I if I'm a good GM, I'm calling the
Suns every day. I just want to see what they
offer me.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
You know, what do you got?
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Can you said anything? What do you got over there?
What do you have for me yeaheah. They're like they're like, hey,
well we'll give you Grayson Allen for a second round pick.
Oh right, sure, man collecting seconds now, we don't nobody
knows why he thinks he's going for Giannis, but he's
gonna make the trade before just set you got to
set yourself up.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
You know, who's the ideal player to match with Luca
for the next five five years or so? If you
could choose any player from the.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
League, Oh that's interesting. I mean, if I could choose
any player, it would be probably Wimby, just because like, yeah,
he's just such a cheat code on the lobs and
stuff like that, and like so clearly addresses a lot
of the defensive stuff, and just I think sort of
gives you a, you know, a version of what the
Lakers had, honestly in the Lebron ad tandem in the bubble,
(33:36):
where you have like the big that is incredible defensively,
still a problem on offense, and then you have the
incredibly talented wing scorer playmaker guy, and you just sort
of have to fill in defenders around that, but they
sort of have the offense taken care of as long
as you have enough credible shooting around them, and so yeah,
it would be Wemby. I mean the Lakers were obviously
not getting him, but if I could choose any player
in the league, it would be him.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Okay, of the people in the Mark Walter era that
we're entering, who do you think is like a realistic
sort of you know, people are like they'll maybe they'll
try and get Gafford, Like they're not gonna do that,
don't be silly, But like, what what do you think
is realistic in terms of if we're not gonna be
we'll be a little bit more reckless with the spending perhaps,
uh enough here with what you know, the financials of
(34:20):
it all.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Well, I think that the way that that's going to
affect things more is going to be in the Lakers
like sort of building out their organization, you know that,
hiring more scouts, hiring pro personnel scouts which they don't have.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Yeah, we didn't have scouts.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
I was like, what, No, No, no, they have scouts,
they just didn't have like out scouting the NBA.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Yeah, yeah, that's what I mean, Like like other teams did.
I'm like, oh, we're truly like kind of resting on
our Laurels to be like, you.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Know, yeah, yeah, a little bit, uh yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
But when I read that, I was like, come on, baby,
you can't.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
They're like sort of they were like, you know, Rob
watches all the Laker games, so he'll see the guys
when they play against us. I guess, like that's it's fine. Yeah,
And so you know, they're just gonna have a lot
of re sources like that. You've seen the Dodgers. It's
not just that they spent on payroll. It's that they
have like a best in class organization in terms of
you know, and that's what that guy did there, and
he sort of slow built that up. He found the
(35:10):
right gm, he built around him. He you know, like
fleshed out the front office with as many smart people
that he could hire. And like that's really the area
where your money can have more impact than on player salaries,
because especially in this second Apron era, you know, there's
so many basketball penalties to exceeding that that you're almost
better off. Like everybody's gonna spend essentially the same amount.
(35:30):
Very few teams are going to go like ware. I mean,
some teams may go under the first apron you know,
but very few teams are going to go over the
second apron for a long time, and so you almost
can get more bang for your buck. I think in
just like trying to build out your other advantages in
terms of scouting, in terms of getting the best coaches
possible on not just your main coach, but your assistant coaches,
all of that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
But Harrison, you're talking about I found it sounds like
the concept you're talking about things like long term sustainability, stability, bruh.
The question is how am I getting to the finals
next year?
Speaker 2 (36:02):
You know I need that.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Well, so I think the Bucks are really going to
want the Lakers twenty thirty one first round pick, you
know you'd think, And so I think that's enough to
get Giannis.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Twenty thirty one.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Yeah, yeah, I think that's a gale.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
I think I want to hear. Yeah, you know that's
what I want to hear. Thank you, Thank you. Tell
me about the Rabbits, George.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
I think you know, if you just if you throw
in Dalton connect yeah, I think it's like back. I
think you'll want to be a bar yeah, to.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Build around for the future Lakers. Then I think, yeah,
but no, no no, no, no no no no no no no.
I think I think side connect No maybe yeah, yeah,
just super producer Jabari is pointing out, like maybe we're
talking pick swap here.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
I don't know, You're right negotiating against myself if I'm
going to them, I'm calling up Milwaukee and I'm saying,
you can have one second round pick swap for Giannis.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Yeah. By the end of the day, Lakers, the balls
in your court, sir, yeah, good night.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Do you want the number one draft pick next year?
I'm just saying, Baltimore court hangs.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Up one last thing on the off season, moves Drew
Holliday going back to the Blazers, Anthony Simon's going to
the Celtics. Sits so badly with me.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Such a weird trade, such.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
A weird trade that just feel it feels like it's
being written by the Celtics, Like the Celtics just needed
this and so they got it, Like I don't know,
like they got they got the Blazers, Like, here's Drew
Holliday for the two years where you need him and
can win the championship, and then you give him back
to us for our young prospect who we currently say
(37:42):
is like completely untouchable. And I know he wasn't like
great last season, but still just feels like, I don't know, man.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
They did, like what those the European soccer teams did.
They sent Drew Holliday to the Celtics on loan, you know,
and they're getting him back now and yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
You guys done? Are you sure? Okay?
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Yeah, you just send him back? And do you guys
want Anthony Simons? Maybe? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Joe Cronin saw he's like the last team to show.
The last two teams to trade for Drew Holiday won
a title the first year. I gotta go get this guy.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
That's right?
Speaker 1 (38:14):
What's his contract even worth? Like this, isn't it something
wacky too? Like he's not he's on He's on big money,
isn't he.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Yeah, it's thirty to forty million, I think if I'm
remembering correctly, I mean, yeah, he's.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
From a salary perspective. Again, why the Celtics did it?
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Right?
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Right?
Speaker 1 (38:30):
But I'm like, what, Okay, Well, good luck to you
in Portland, good luck to you all.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Right, let's uh should we take a break and come
back and do the final rapid fire round of questions.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Oh sure, I guess we have to. Okay, okay, we'll
be right back.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
Man, we're back back one last one, last evil laugh. Why, okay,
I'm fine. I'm fine.
Speaker 7 (39:13):
Here's a thing, and you've just made it to the
full quarter of before the questions the christ this podcast
history in the podcast it's on iheard, co produced with
the NBA, co hosted by people named Johns and Jack.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
Giles and Mac.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
We're gonna ask you a question of those words.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
Just it's very important from a legal yeah, from from
legally you have to know.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
But we're gonna ask you a question.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
You just respond your chest passed it right back, just
right back to us. Okay, don't think about it, just answer.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
I'm happy to I know how this works.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Okay, you are you are, my sweet sweet boosties child, Brian.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
If you want to.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Go first, Jackers, I'd.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Love for you to go first.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Okay, Harrison, we're gonna do this player pairing or that
player pairing that you would prefer to see where you
could get with that.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
I think you should get with this. This is where
it's at the first one.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Okay, this or that Luca and Yannie or Wenby.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Wenby and Yannis.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
I think, whoa, that would be crazy. Those guys are
both so tall.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
How does that work? I just think, is it not
rapid fire? But I think, uh, your defense is just
impossible to score on with.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
Those defense is actually also important.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
It turns out guys named Harrison love defense and think
of the championships, so you know they do say that.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
All right, Luca and Joker where Joker and Wemby. I
feel like, we we know you're Wemby over Luca. Is
that correct? Ah?
Speaker 2 (41:07):
I think I'd go Luca and Joker just because that
would be you know, yeah, yeah, I think I think
their offense would be so unstoppable that playing that Balkin
ball oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah, sign me up. Wemby
Jokic just feels like a weird fit to me. I'm
not sure, like they they're both great, they'd make it work,
but it's just like it's a strange fit.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
It feels like somehow they would get in each other's
way physically.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Yeah, no, you can't have that, not at the same
time on the same team.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
Oh my god, get out of my way? What are
you doing?
Speaker 2 (41:38):
Although Wemby would be thrilled. He's like, I don't have
to guard Yokic anymore.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
I love this Luca and Wemby or Joker and Yannis.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
I think we maybe know this Luca and Wemby or
Joker and Yannis. I would go. I think probably Joker
and yannism.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
Yeah, I'm just I'm just imagining both of those.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
I just know.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Actually I'm going Luca Wenby.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Yeah, I just like Giannis, I hasn't shown me enough
off the ball to be like that. It's like, oh,
he's immediately going to go sort of run off if
you get like you would want him to. Yeah, I
think I think it's Luca and.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
That you will notice that we just go silent when
you do the wrong the wrong answer and until answer.
I'm not that one, Okay, Luca Shay, You'll just Alexander
or Luca and Ant And these are being presented by
jabari as just like these are options here because all
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of these guys are gonna come home eventually.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
I'm going Luca and Ant because I just think Aunt
was born to be a Laker like many great players
from the history of Minnesota, and you know, I think
he could be the city's latest greatest Minneapolis import.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
Mm hmm, absolutely, absolutely, it's just a pipeline something from
there's a there's a long tradition of Minneapolis handing things
to Los Angeles so that they can flourish.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
We just drink their milkshake as it were. Okay, So, Harrison,
we just talked about the KD trade. Uh And we
had the Desmond Baine news last week where he said
I was in a chamber.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Of darkness like Baine.
Speaker 3 (43:19):
It was so dark in that windowless facility.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
Can you give us your predictions on where these players
are gonna end up next season?
Speaker 2 (43:26):
And get getting silly with it? That cool?
Speaker 3 (43:35):
Well, you had to do that or else it falls apart.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
It really falls apart.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
It really falls apart, to be honest, To.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
Be honest, Harrison, where's Gianni's going to be next season?
Speaker 3 (43:47):
Okay? And now and now do a silly one?
Speaker 2 (43:50):
I just a Toronto?
Speaker 3 (43:52):
Wow? Why Toronto?
Speaker 2 (43:56):
I don't know. It just seems like the type of
thing that they do, like where you know, they swine
on the wildly talented wing that is available to them
for some reason, for lower than it would be for
other teams, and you know, just go win a title.
That's what miss I does.
Speaker 3 (44:11):
All right, joh and Triple J. Where are they going?
Speaker 2 (44:15):
They're they're both going to the same team. They're getting
sent out in like a sure. No, I think I
think as good as you are, you can always get better,
you know, use some some more bench weapons. Yeah, Jos
six Man of the Year, you know, it's perfect role.
What about Lebron James, I mean really the only answer Actually,
(44:38):
you know what I'm gonna say. He wants to he
wants to go rejoin with a d and he's wanted
to play with Kyrie. Uh, you know, he's just like, yeah,
it seems like they get things done for their players
over there as long as they're not Luca. You know,
he wanted a center, he got, he got seven centers,
So you know, Lebron, Lebron's gonna get nine point guards
to take the load off of him until he gets
tired of them and takes over at point guard.
Speaker 3 (45:00):
All right.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
And finally, Jalen Brown, I would have said the Rockets
until they made the Katie trade, because that seemed like
it was something that was, you know, maybe gonna happen. Yeah,
the Hawks, they want to make some noise m hm
from Atlanta, bringing them home. Yeah, from Atlanta. Yeah, and Harrison,
all the right answers.
Speaker 3 (45:21):
Yeah, well that's no. We got to bring it home now, Oh, yeah,
to bring Those were the right answers. But I can't. Oh,
this could be the wrong answer answer in that section.
Those are all the right answers.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
This next section, this could be a wrong answer, and
there is a wrong answer one last time, Harrison Fagan
for everybody in the back.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
Jacker, Miles, Miles, Uh, you know la receptionalism.
Speaker 3 (45:52):
Oh, the right answer.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
Look, I do it. I can't. I can't pick some
East Coaster come on.
Speaker 3 (45:59):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
I needed that.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
I needed that.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
Jack's fine, He's fine, He's gonna be fine. He's gonna
jack about him. Jack, you're my second favorite host, you know. Yeah,
You're means a lot. That's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (46:12):
You know, it's huge top two Miles and Jack, it's okay.
I believe I was three and one hundred and sixty
eight according to Ryan, So that's that all makes sense
for the hundred and seventy one episodes.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
Or he asked that, Well, we stopped asking for a
while because it was getting a little silly.
Speaker 3 (46:31):
No, So what happened is we we stopped leaving it
in the episode. We we asked every time, and it
was like whenever they'd say Miles, I'd be like, caught it, Yeah,
caught it.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
You broke a lot of desks. I remember we did
you seriously used to ask every guest. Yeah, we know
that's insane.
Speaker 3 (46:49):
Oh insanely good, right, good content.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
I feel worse for Jack. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (46:57):
Oh yeah, man, no, sorry, it's been a hard road,
you know, and me and taking some solace from Sam Press.
You just keep doing it. Keep wait, the show's ending.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
Yeahs can cut a long run short, as they say,
you know, and we took no shortcuts.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
And this was a long and storied ride.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
So, Harrison Fagan, thank you so much for joining us
on the final episode of Miles and.
Speaker 3 (47:24):
Jack Got Mad Boosties.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
Where the where did the people find you?
Speaker 1 (47:27):
Because you continue on to cover the league.
Speaker 3 (47:31):
Miles and I disappear at the end of this episode
like obibi just a pile of clothes.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
Yeah, oh my god, Jack just went in a force
go he really just he just disappeared. It's just closed,
just dropped to the ground and he's blue. Yeah, I
uh you know. You can follow me on Twitter at
at h M Fagan. Uh and then obviously all of
our work over at sp nation dot com. And guys,
thanks for having me for the last one. It's an
it's been an honor. And uh yeah I was. I
(47:57):
was not excited to get the call because it means
the show's ending, but you know, I appreciate the invite.
Speaker 1 (48:03):
Oh man, well, you can find me everywhere at Miles
of Gray if you still if you still want, if
you still wish, And.
Speaker 3 (48:11):
Obviously on other show, the Daily Zeitegist that guys still
going on on that Jack Underscore Obrian on Twitter, Jack
obi the number one on Blue Sky a reference to
Obi Wan and my ability to just turn into a
pile of clothes.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
Yep, oh my god, you came back.
Speaker 3 (48:27):
Yeah, there he is there we are. Uh, that's it.
Speaker 2 (48:31):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (48:32):
Don't search hashtag mat boosties for links and updates because
it's can be it. But we will be talking NBA
on uh.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
Dailey's Eitgeist and of course, yeah, the the chattering still
goes on again. Thank you to everybody who played a
pivotal role in this show. Obviously Jabari Davis, Brian the editor,
our two biggest day ones Literal day Ones on this show.
This show would not be where it is without your work,
your dedication, lending me your basketball intelligence to pretend I'm
(49:02):
not just a totally out of my mind Laker fan,
and I do know some things about the other teams
from time to time.
Speaker 3 (49:07):
So I do owe you a debt of gratitude forever. Jabari. Also,
just you know, the iHeart family, Sean Peter Race, you know,
day one and the NBA people, Steven Channing, Meredith, love
to you all.
Speaker 1 (49:21):
Thank you for taking a chance on two.
Speaker 3 (49:23):
Just Adam is over, Yeah, Silver Adam was a big
fan Lebron Jamee. Come on. We were like, let's not
mix business and pleasure at him. But you know, always
fun and you know these past three years as a
Sixers fan a lot of times, but I'm looking back
at that beach and I only see one set of footsteps, yep,
And I say, Miles, why did you abandon me? You say, Jack,
(49:47):
it was it was during those seasons that I carried you,
and so I have to thank you as well.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
Oh man, Well Jack, I'll.
Speaker 3 (49:55):
See you tomorrow anyway, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (49:57):
Hope listen, but thank you all for listening, and we'll
see you soon.
Speaker 3 (50:02):
Later bribe
Did you see you know that Rest in Peace Boso
the James Worthy meme?
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Yeah, did you know what that clip is from?
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Isn't it from they beat the Celtics and he lit
up a cigar?
Speaker 3 (00:18):
The common misconception?
Speaker 1 (00:21):
That's what Javari said. You know how sad this one is.
It's from February fourth, twenty eighteen where twenty one and
thirty one Lakers beat the Oklahoma City Thunder one O
eight one oh four.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Yeah that's right. Yeah, so yeah, we're smoking on that
loud pack because.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Man, but I totally thought that there was when you
said it was Satdur, I thought it was going to
be like a red hourback died and he was doing
a tribute to him on air crip and people are like, oh, like, yeah,
let's put rest in Peace Boso. Yeah, you know that
is probably the energy James would bring to that tribute.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
But you know, but it's even funnier because they're like,
you're saying, recipe because we beat the thirty and twenty
fourth Thunder at the time.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
They were only thirty twenty four. Then yeah, what a time?
But time you guys want me to record locally? Right?
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Please Okay, should I just start that now or okay
if you wire?
Speaker 1 (01:18):
I think I think we can prolong the show. If
we don't turn this show in, we don't wait Yeah,
it's like it's like yeah, no.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Guys, we're still recording it, just problem as we go.
Don't even trying it. We're trying to get it done.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Steve, I know you're gonna have to render my Yeah,
yeah one more time, guys. Yeah we still we got
edits and stuff on this. Is that really like Philibus
Spring or like yeahs our yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah exactly ship Alex Caruso.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
He was a minus three on the night.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
M James is like, the guy's a bum. Guy's a
boom rest of piece, bozone. I'm out of here, resting
peace bow So Tucker better tucking into some Tim Wharton's.
That's been my time. That's been my time. We're honor.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
This isn't a comedy club, sir, you're the defendant. Okay, sorry,
all right, that's been my time.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
All right, that's been my time. You're honor. Tipperators on
the well.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Well well well, well well.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Well and finally, well well well, episode one seventy one.
If I met a lot of people who make it
to one seventy one. No, no, A lot of people
wouldn't think we would make it to two. Do you
know how Parson? You know how old Elvis was when
he died. Don't look it up. Don't look it up.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Fifty I was.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Gonna say, fifty five.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Who's forty two?
Speaker 3 (02:54):
He looked bad.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
I don't know fourth too, it's so ye. But look
at us, look at early. Some of us are over
that age. And yet we made it to one hundreds
every one episodes and lot's right.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Nobody said we could do it.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Nobody said so. But at the end of the season,
we do have a champion. It's the Oklahoma City Thunder.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
They took care of business in Game seven, although.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
It was a kind of a downer Game seven. I
must say sad game seven. Normally I don't expect my
Game seven is to be sad.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
It was no games.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
It was definitely I think, overshadowed by the Halberd injury.
But also we've got Katie trade news if that interests you,
and maybe talking about the future of the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
I don't know who knows her this.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Is going because baby, this is the last episode.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Of I'm Miles Great and I'm Jack O'Brien and this.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Is Miles and Jack got bad Boostingtory get it.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Look at the East Okay, be driving Spinny.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Fatter numbers, p G.
Speaker 6 (04:08):
That's good show something short, champion over the double team time.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
What you got guys?
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Wow, we got it, We got it and luckily did it.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
And you know who we got on the guest chair,
The associate director of Pro Basketball for ASBI Nation, Harrison Bacon.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Finishing things off on Boost. He's like Kobe dropping sixty,
taking another fingers journey taking a.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Lot of people have been calling me washed all year,
but I think I got one laugh good performance than me.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
You got now we believe you. We didn't call you
in for nothing, Harrison. I called you in to tell
me that the Lakers will win next season. That's actually
what I repeatedly called the final for himself on the show.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Yeah. And then it'll be Lakers six or right in
the finals next season. Yeah, yeah, that's what we said.
I mean, So this is this is why so the
people a lot of people are asking why is the
show ending? Miles and I did make a promise to
each other. Yep, if by the third season of the show,
it's not the Lakers and the seventy six ers in
the finals, then we would end it yeah and get
(05:21):
married yeah instead, And so thanks didn't happen, I don't think.
But Harrison will be the efficient, so we do. We
do appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
But I guess, yeah, the finals, just touching up on
that game seven.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Game seven, baby, yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
I mean at this point, I'm sure no one's tuning
into this episode.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
So here what happened seven and six? What if somebody
just the only way they found out about NBA basketball
was listening to this podcast.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Are something, no, legit, there are probably one person at least,
there's all other one or something yeah no, and other
listeners from other shows we do are like, yeah, I
like the basketball one too, Like I get to learn
stuff about it. Brian the editor says, you're editor, perhaps,
oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Brian didn't know the NBA was the thing. He was like,
so this show is being this show's ended because the
NBA stopped having a league, right, And we're.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Like, oh no, no, no, no, no, no, that's not
how that works at all, my dear sweet child.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Yeah, basketball shutting down everyone.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
We did it it was a good one. Yeah, yeah,
I do like this clip the super producer Jabbari and
once again we shouted him out last week. But Super
the man, the show run man who makes it good, uh,
who makes it coherent? Coherent? Yes, he found a great
(06:41):
clip of Sam Presty that I wanted to play real quick.
If we do, we are we able to play it?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Do?
Speaker 1 (06:47):
We got this clip real quick, We got that clipt
this clip here we go.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Here is by the way, we were able to like
play NBA clips this whole time, and we just like didn't,
as I said, because we couldn't, because we couldn't shut
ourselves up. So well, you know, I remember when when
we were trying, we're.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Like, oh, We're like, this is not outbad so sick?
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Oh John, No, yeah no.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
And that's that's That's kind of how the running commentary was.
But here's Sam Presty in twenty twenty one, just given
a long view into the future.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
As I said earlier, we can't be reactionary or emotional
about it. We just have to keep chipping away every
single day, knowing that over time will achieve our goals.
If we have the ployse the patients and the willingness
to adjust to the setbacks that we know will inevitably encounter.
As they say, shortcuts cut long, run short, and we're
(07:43):
going to do everything in our power not to allow
that to happen. And when we do get back to
the postseason, we want it to be an arrival and
not an appearance and arrival meaning that we can return,
we can be there, we can take some you know,
some chance or bad fortune and not have it sink
us in completely.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
We've seen the benefit of that, and you.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
Know, during our our earlier years, we don't want a
position where we get there but we have no way
to get back. And that's the focus and the precision
with which we're working. We understand the ecosystem of the NBA,
I think very very well. We understand how that works.
We understand what we have to work with, and I
(08:26):
feel extremely confident and optimistic about the future that we
have here. We just have to continue to stick with it.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Okay. So that's him. So, by the way, the architect
of the Oklahoma City Thunder who just won the title,
speaking in uh at the end of the twenty twenty
twenty twenty one season, this is my impression of me
after he said that, okay, Boso whatever.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Fifty one.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Yeah, okay, so a little contact. They were twenty two
and fifty one. Yep, that's every year.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
That was year that Shae missed like the whole second
half of the season or some big chunk of it, right,
and the year that they, you know, sort of took
in al Horford and then shut him down because he
was playing too well before flipping him to the Celtics.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
So yeah, I found an article where they were summarizing
that that's like his final media appearance of the twenty
twenty twenty one season. And there's like this article in
USA Today where they're like, so he like doesn't want
like there's so many great players on the market and
like they're not even gonna do anything. Quote with Bradley Beal,
(09:31):
Kemba Walker, Christaph's Porzingis and even Damian Lillard floating in
the rumor mill the Oklahoma City Thunder have started to pop
up around social media and think pieces, but it's highly
unlikely the Thunder trade for one of these players and
then summarizing like he's you know, he spoke to the
mediaan was like we're good over here, and yeah, he
talks to.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
The media for like like three hours at the end
of every season. He'll just take like every single possible
question they have.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Yeah, well I would have been I would have been
one of the people being like really, here's from later
in that article about bial Bal has averaged more than
thirty points per game for two seasons in a row.
He did this while shooting forty eight point five percent
this season despite defenders draped around him, which was like,
the thing about bial is like, you gotta get Bal
(10:18):
because his team is so bad and yet he's scoring
all these points. That must mean that it is extra hard.
But yeah, stuck to his vision truly, just I don't know,
and everybody in the organization was willing to have the
patience Like it's it's tough, I understand it. It's easy
to be like everybody should have patience and just like
(10:39):
let the vision play out. The problem with that is like,
what if the person you're having patience with is an idiot,
you know, then you've wasted five years. So that's the
problem with patience. But they got up to the bulls,
you know, they stuck with it.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
You know, they've they've been really patient, and it seems
like it's with the wrong.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Guy patient, you know, going nowhere.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Yeah, KD.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
I feel like the KD Russ hardened Core made it
easy on them because like they were like, all right,
this guy might know what he's talking about, so we'll
let him not go after Damian Lillard, Kemba Walker, Bradley
Beale and Porzingis.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
I mean it's sild that that is, like that's like
the Grim Reaper knocking at the door meme of names.
You know, it's like every literally any of those guys
would have destroyed this title run. I think because of
how much they're making and like how many you know,
how much flexibility. The Thunder wouldn't have had to go
get guys like Alex caruso Isa Heart and seen all
(11:40):
that stuff. Like it just would have made them a
totally different team with any of those guys and probably
torpedoed this run before it began.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Yeah, I'm just so impressed, you know, like because in
the era of impatient front offices, impatient owners, impatient fans
that just this truly like this is the philosophy we're
sticking to and see it pay off just like in
this spectacular way.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Where does this like even rank.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
With other executives who are like, here's my thing. We're
gonna try this, and I think it's gonna work, and
I think this is actually gonna bring sustainable you know,
performances to this club, this franchise.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
I feel like it's pretty similar to like Brad Stevens,
like in that, you know, having a singular vision that
they stuck with for for a period of time in
Boston and like them winning the title last year, but
even they are not like it feels like he's the
only person who has them, Like who was talking about aprons,
(12:39):
because like he, they just seem so well set up
and the rest of the league is like now being like,
oh no, oh, we're gonna have to trade some of
our guys who like are good all right, and they
just seem like they've got it, like just a nesting
doll of like you know, people coming of age at
the right time in contracts like feeding into one another.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
It sort of reminds me of where Presty came from
the Spurs. It's you know, when they had their dynasty
going on and they were just like they were drafting
guys and just bring them in and developing them and
sort of cost controlling them and again different CBA to
you know, you could pay to keep a man Whu
and you know Tony Parker and a Tim Duncan and
you know, uh and a Kawai and all these guys.
But it does it's reminiscent of that of like, hey,
(13:23):
we're not going to get necessarily get stars to come
here in free agency or demand a trade to end
up here, and so we just need to take all
the bets on young talent that we can and figure
out who works.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Yeah, and it sounds like I was just like having
really dedicating the like the culture of the players too,
because this isn't like a team with a like stars
in that sense, like with egos like that. And I
feel like, yeah, it's yeah, it's hard to have that
kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Especially they all talk like Coach Carter, like Friday Night
Lights character, just like it's an entire team of just
like coach speak. It's like they all talk exactly like
Presty from the coach down to the players and all
that stuff. So you know, really it's really culture of
saying absolutely nothing interesting ever, and so maybe that's the lesson.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Not a lot of familiar names on that roster from
that year when he's given that speech. But Shay Gilles, Alexander, Louguentz, Dort, Lugats,
lou Dort and the coach were all there. And you know,
despite the fact that their offensive raiding was thirtieth of thirty,
their overall rating was like thirtieth of thirty, defensive rating
(14:28):
was twenty fourth, net rating thirtieth of thirty in the league,
like the worst in the league.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
They were real bad that year. There were a lot
of guys playing that are I'm guessing or not in
the league anymore?
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Four years ago, five years ago, like four years ago,
they were the worst in the league. They didn't land Jannis,
They didn't like just suddenly pull one of the great players.
They had the best player that currently was on their
team when they won the title a few days ago.
He was on their team that year. He was hurt,
(15:00):
but like he was, he was there and nobody was
saying anything except like, man, he's actually like developing into
a nice little player. But nobody was like, this is
the core that right, and.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Maybe he could make an All Star team one day,
you know, in the right year.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
SG and lou Dort were not Nobody was like, that's
the core. That there's your core. The core is in place,
and yeah, you know, it's pretty impressive what they just
pulled off. So shout out to the Thunder Shout out
to the Thunder fans, Shout out to Sonic fans going back,
anybody who's stuck with them.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
A crossover.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Yeah, yeah, a lot of angry SONI shout Sonic fans
who are because mainly that's what I identify with is
a spite as an NBA fan.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Not only did your team move, but they moved with
like maybe the best NBA GM ever running the team
and like apparently patient owners and like all that, like
everything that you would want from your team, and they're
just like, you know, we're just gonna take this and
move it to Oklahoma City. But you can watch from afar.
It's fine, you know. That's I I can't even imagine
how I would feel as a Sonics fan today.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Yeah, should we should we move to the other side
of the ball because I can't remember a runner up
that is as memorable as this Pacers team? Yeah for real?
Maybe yeah, no one remembers the second place, but I
don't know. Yes, I feel like, yeah, let's say, we'll
be right, and we're back. We're back. I do feel
(16:40):
like more than football, I do remember the NBA runners up.
Is that just because I like basketball better than football?
Speaker 2 (16:46):
I think so, But probably all the like.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
I remember all the teams that Jordan beat to win
the title. You know, those were all like fairly iconic
in my guys, in your.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Guys, yeah, the bad guys in the documentary, you know,
these are the guys that are trying to kill Michael
Jordan midair and then the yeah, and then they cut
back and he's like, you know, I just popped my
leg back into place. I ate some food, poison pizza,
and just got back back out there.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
You know, the Pacers were so memorable, Like I can't
remember a team having a run like this that felt
this out of nowhere, like heading into the playoffs. I
don't like, they just like had a magic about them
that like started coming out in the playoffs. I know
they were playing well. I don't think anybody saw this,
(17:35):
Like where does this rank on like second place like
teams that lost in the finals for you in terms
of like how memorable they are?
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Harrison, you know, honestly, the team that comes to mind
as a memorable second place finisher is actually the thunder
from when they lost to the Heat, because it was like, hey,
look at these young guys. It's clear that the you know,
they have something cooking here. They're going to be back
a bunch more times, right, And then they never were,
and but it that was a fairly memorable team. They
upset the Spurs. You know, they had again it was
(18:04):
like young KD, Young Russ. It's like the teams don't
win when they're this young, and they ended up not winning,
but they were really good. And I do remember that
team from that year quite a bit. I'm trying to.
I mean, I guess maybe either the Spurs or the
Heat from their finals battles, you know, those were both
sort of like, you know, like the year the Spurs
came up short in Game seven. They were obviously a
memorable runner up, but.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
It's always like iconic teams that like you had a
sense we're going to be there coming into the playoffs.
So this was like such a weird like almost like
NC double a tournament esque like Cinderella run that just
like came up.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
It felt like they were actually a great comp They
were primed for a DVD basically, you know, really season,
They're like when.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
TJ McConnell scored like five times in a row, it's like,
what is it?
Speaker 5 (18:54):
Like?
Speaker 1 (18:55):
What is I'm gonna love watching this scene in the
documentary that's in never able about this run.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
But yeah, just another achilles injury. Miles. As you pointed
out to an All Star who wears the number zero
the third one of these playoffs.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
I was just being like, what's with the number zero
this year? I mean, I Kyrie doesn't wear zero. But
I think maybe, look in my mind, maybe it's the
one weird note thing I noticed and as it happened,
But maybe it's the low top sneakers.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
I don't know, man, I don't know. This is so weird.
It's yeah, it was where do you land with the
Achilles of it all?
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Yeah, I just think that it's you know this has
been said before, but it's that the sport is so
different than it ever was in you know, the years
when sort of like we were talking about like the
Jordan year stuff like that, there wasn't this amount of
running around on defense, stop start, you know, rotations and
all of that stuff. And I do wonder if it's
just taking a toll on guy's bodies. And I also
(19:53):
remember reading like an ESPN story from Baxter Holmes a
number of years ago where it was like where it
was talking about how youth sports specialization is actually making
guys knees worse. This is like a documented thing because
kids aren't playing multiple sports and like working out multiple
different muscles anymore. It's like, you know, you're just using
those run and jump muscles playing basketball and you know
you're wearing out. There's more guys coming into the league
(20:14):
with knee issues, and I think it's like a combination
of all of that stuff. Is bodies this big weren't
meant to be discordinated and moving around and stopping and
starting all the time. And you know, it's just players
are bigger and more skilled than they've ever been, and
it's a more frenetic game than it's ever been. And
I do think that there is probably something to that.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Well, especially with the way these teams played like off
like the Pacers offense and the Thunder defense.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
If someone from like thirty years will be like, what
are they doing out there? Yeah, you just bring in
like one of the bad Boys Pistons. He's like a
legal defense.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
YEA, what do you.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Oh so we can oh so the screen we can move? Now?
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Okay, yeah, okay, I got something for that, although I
would have led to see that.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Yeah, to your point, like Michael Jordan stunk at basketball
when he was a sophomore in high school, as we
all know, got cut and only liked baseball. As the
story goes, that's not true. He just like didn't make
his varsity team. I think his freshman year or sophomore year.
He was still good. But yeah, it does seem like
specialization is more a thing everybody's like, Okay, now I'm
(21:18):
going to going from basketball practice to my one on
one basketball training session with my basketball coach. Yeah, it's
a don't I don't know exactly what it is. It
definitely just seems like it's a harder on the body,
and we're probably gonna see a world where like people
get shut down in the finals regardless of what, you know,
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how close it is, because they have a strained calf.
Like the strained calf feels like it's got to be like, yeah,
a red line. Now.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
I mean I remember last week Sarah Todd was on
and we're talking about like it sounds like he's gonna
play with that calf.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Injury, and everyone was like, of course he's gonna play
with that, is it?
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Yeah? And if we were joking like that.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Thing is going to be fall off the bone tender
by the time he's done playing that and it went
a little bit too literally, But that just completely changed
how I like, just for me, it was such a
blow to the enjoyment of that game, and it felt
like that's kind of how it even felt in the
arena too, Like it felt very subdued, like it was
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kind of like, yeah, we won.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
That was kind of.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
A grim way to end it all though that felt
a little bit rough. I don't know if that was
the same for everyone else, but at a certain point,
like I had to actively just like kind of walk
away for like long stretches because like, oh, this is tough.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
No.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
It almost looked like the Thunder players were going through
it too, of like yeah, thing of like did we
just watch this guy's entire career change and then now
it's you know, we got to go play do or
die basketball. It just seemed like, again, it takes nothing
away from Thunder. They were obviously totally deserving and legitimate Champiel.
It was just a really weird vibe for a game
seven of you had all these guys just clearly processing
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it in the moment, and even like you said in
the arena, like, I think the Thunder players probably feel
bad to some degree. You know, they're professional athletes. These
guys are all human. Like, nobody wants to see that.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
And they probably also want to win that like, and
just as competitors like I want to beat the best
version of my opponent. You know, I don't ever want
to feel like we only won because this happened, although
we were.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Playing very well.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
But even like even the locker room felt very even
with those michelobe.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Joints michel ultrue joints.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Yeah, our man, Chet, even did you hear that?
Speaker 2 (23:30):
No, I saw the one of Alex Cruzo teaching them
how to open champagne. Yeah remember where you learned that, Alex? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (23:37):
No, this is right after they were talking about to
Chet about like the you know, champagne showers of locker room.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
What's going on?
Speaker 1 (23:43):
And then he hits us with a brand new pronunciation
for michelob ultra.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
But for now, I got my michelob ultra joints, My Michel.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Chet Chet is my favorite, like arks on rec side character.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
You know, it's just truly he has written like a
we were trying to figure out what it wasn't like
extras maybe like he's like Ricky Gervais, the Ricky Gervais Show,
you know, like just a heightened version of like what
a comedy writer would think was funny if he had
that personality. And uh, yeah, whoever's writing him, they're nailing
it because it's very funny.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
You could see him in parks and rec like at
those city council meetings.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
That's what I was going to say. He's at the
city council meeting like complaining about like fluoride in the water.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
No, no, he's complaining about the varietals at the library.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
There's not varieties of picture book. Yeah. We were obsessed
with his clip Harrison where he takes you through his
favorite books and he's, uh, he can't live without.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Yeah, he says, these are a type of book with
pictures that I like to call coffee table books. And
then and then is like, shows you one that's about jewelry,
and he's like, but I've got all sorts of varieties
of these and then shows you another just like coffee
table book, the books or varieties. I've got different varieties
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of books. Yeah, baby, Yeah. His car he needs to
be wearing, uh, snowboarding goggles on. Like I feel like
that's forever still yet to come for him and needs
to happen. That's the Definitely, he's like he feels like
he'd be John Ralphiel's bodyguard or something.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
We're gonna get photos of him like celebrating in like
overseas somewhere. He's like on his like you know, like
post championship European vacation and he's going to be surfing
on like two surfboards that they had to weld together
or something. You know, it's just.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Duct tape them together. Man, coming down the way. Yeah yeah,
whoa easy, baby, easy.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
I will say, shout out to him though he gave
He gave me the idea for my best bet, which
was betting on Oklahoma City last year in the off season.
Unfortunately a year too early. But man, just seeing him
in Summer League, I was like, he looks good. Maybe
they'll be good this year and uh, and they were
just not quite good enough.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
What do you think, Harrison?
Speaker 1 (26:14):
This like this sort of finals run kind of says
for a lot of people who were like, yeah, I
don't see the Pacers. It's gonna be the It's gonna
be thunder and four, five, maybe five probably at most.
Do you think they're like because I was talking to
one of my friends who was basically disrespecting the Pacers
the whole time, despite like performance after performance, and it
wasn't until game seven.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
That he was like, all right, maybe like fine, I
was like, really, it.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Took you that long? It just feels I don't know,
I mean, like this, where where do where? How should
people be really be looking at this team? Because I
feel like some people might just go back to I
don't know, like without with knowing how halliburton injuries, Halliburton's
injury is gonna pan out and just all of it,
you know, surrounding this the end of the season, does
this seem like, you know, are they gonna be right
back in it?
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Yeah? I mean what sucks with the injuries. It's a
year long one and he literally had it in the
last possible basketball game that you could play, and so
he's like all of next year is probably wiped out
for them, you know, like bar again, they are a
team out of a sports movie, and so they could
prove us wrong. And it's like, oh, TJ McConnell's an
All Star next year.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
TJ McConnell's sister is now on the team, and you're like, okay, great,
I love this, dude, that's the sports movie plotline.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
It's like, Hey, I got to invite my sister to
come play because we had an injury. You know, my
dad's a coach.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Yeah, there's a weird old by law that says if
I have the same last name as the person, they're
allowed to suit up.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Or than saying my sister can't play basketball. He's like,
they're like, no, airbud rules don't work in real life. Wow,
you know we actually do have a rule against that.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Yeah, there are there are courts where people would adjudicate
this decision.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Yeah, she has the same initials TJ McConnell, I broke
my ankle, but she can come in and play for.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
It on paper the exact same thing.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Does the NBA not do trial by combat?
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
So I think they're probably done for next year, which
does suck. But I think that I've never felt more
like one of the pundits that they show in the
montage in a sports movie when like after games that
the Pacers played, where I'm like, you know, I was
down at my parents' house, you know, I'm I'm associate
director of Pro Basketball. They're asking me for my opinion
on the finals. I'm like, oh, I got it. Sound smart.
(28:18):
I'm like, you know, PACER's cute. Sorry, I just like,
I don't even know if they can get a game.
This Thunder team, this Thunder defense is so good, and
then they win Game one and I just look like
an idiot. And you know, it's like I can see
the clips of you know, all the first take you know,
talking heads, the you know, you're the people on Fox Sports,
the whatever, you know, it's it's the montage of like
this team has no chance. And then TJ McConnell is
(28:40):
like showing a video of it in the locker room
to all of his guys and he's like, Thomas Bran,
are you gonna let them talk about you like that?
And he's like, no, I'm not. I'm gonna score nine.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Yeah, I did see. Your parents were in the comments
of our episode talking a lot of trash about your team.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
I mean deservedly. So yeah, you know, they got three
other kids, so they'll be fine. But it's just, you know,
I feel bad for embarrassing them on a national stage
like this.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
That's right, all right? Should we move beyond the finals matchup? Sure?
Look to the future. How long do we have with this? Like, yes,
the thunderlook set for the future. The West also looks
very competitive and there's a lot of intriguing people who
might jump up, such as Victor Webbing Yama. How long
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do we think until the Spurs are a contender? Because
I think some people were like, I don't know, maybe
maybe this year, and that didn't end up being the
case because of an injury, but also prior to the
injury also didn't seem to be the case. What do
we think is it this year?
Speaker 2 (29:41):
They just don't seem to be in a rush. I
think it's two more. I think it's another year after
this before they start to enter that conversation. I think
Wenby will have to keep developing obvious, although he's obviously
incredible already, but they're probably gonna lose something with Chris
Paul going out. I mean, I know they have to
Aaron Fox now, but it doesn't seem like they're rushing
to make an all and move this summer, Like they
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didn't seem to get seriously involved in the KD sweepstakes.
Maybe they would have if Yannis was actually available, but
it doesn't seem like he's going to be and so
maybe that is what would have actually led to them
making an all in swing. But for right now, it
seems like they're sort of happy to patiently slow play it,
you know, draft Harper second and sort of go like
into next year. Is hey, we're going to continue to
(30:22):
figure out like which of these young guys are actually
good and try and you know, the Thunder honestly just
made a case for them to be patient and say,
you know, hey, let's figure out, you know, sort of
if any of these drafts, how good these draft picks are,
and then where we actually need veteran help.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Right man, It's just everything went right for the Thunder,
like all those players developed like the best case scenario.
But yeah, I don't it'll be it'll be interesting to see.
And like you said, I mean, maybe the Spurs were
like the people who gave Presty the playbook, since that's
where he hails from. But I don't know. I would
(30:58):
have liked to see them get Durant KD to the Rockets.
What do we think? I feel like the Rockets won
that trade. I think they're gonna be pretty interesting. It's
a lot of pressure on KD to be like a
bucket down the stretch, but that is like the thing
that he's maybe the best of all time at Do
we think the Rockets are a contender right away?
Speaker 2 (31:19):
I think so. I mean, they were already so good
on defense last year that this was you know, it's
rare that you see a team plug their only hole
in one trade and just like immediately address all the
concerns about that. And it's just like that was there.
One thing that they could not do last year was
you know, they didn't have a go to guy down
the stretch of games. They could stay in games, but
teams continually out executed them down the stretch because offense
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generally beats defense in those moments, and because of how
good offenses in the NBA are and how tough it
can be to play defense, And so I think KD
just sort of, you know, solves that problem. You know,
you're you're not gonna be able to guard him with
the game on the line, and so as long as
he can sort of contribute enough and they don't lose
too much in the Dylan Rooks sort of absence on
defense or you know whatever sort of ephemeral like culture stuff.
(32:05):
I think they should be probably right into the contention conversation.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
But then they're in the Western Conference, Harrison, and now
would mean if they're in this.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
I didn't say they're gonna win the title. I think
they're gonna be in the Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Yeah, but then but then that means that means the
Lakers can't be in the finals.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Well and and I and I can't.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
I'm just much too fragile right now to even handle that.
I mean, obviously seeing them keep like Aman Thompson and shanng.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Gun and all that, and I'm like, yeah, this is
trouble for sure. Yeah, how how did the Sons? I'm
not I'm going to stop asking myself hypothetical questions about
why the Sons do things?
Speaker 2 (32:42):
If I if I'm a good GM, I'm calling the
Suns every day. I just want to see what they
offer me.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
You know, what do you got?
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Can you said anything? What do you got over there?
What do you have for me yeaheah. They're like they're like, hey,
well we'll give you Grayson Allen for a second round pick.
Oh right, sure, man collecting seconds now, we don't nobody
knows why he thinks he's going for Giannis, but he's
gonna make the trade before just set you got to
set yourself up.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
You know, who's the ideal player to match with Luca
for the next five five years or so? If you
could choose any player from the.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
League, Oh that's interesting. I mean, if I could choose
any player, it would be probably Wimby, just because like, yeah,
he's just such a cheat code on the lobs and
stuff like that, and like so clearly addresses a lot
of the defensive stuff, and just I think sort of
gives you a, you know, a version of what the
Lakers had, honestly in the Lebron ad tandem in the bubble,
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where you have like the big that is incredible defensively,
still a problem on offense, and then you have the
incredibly talented wing scorer playmaker guy, and you just sort
of have to fill in defenders around that, but they
sort of have the offense taken care of as long
as you have enough credible shooting around them, and so yeah,
it would be Wemby. I mean the Lakers were obviously
not getting him, but if I could choose any player
in the league, it would be him.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Okay, of the people in the Mark Walter era that
we're entering, who do you think is like a realistic
sort of you know, people are like they'll maybe they'll
try and get Gafford, Like they're not gonna do that,
don't be silly, But like, what what do you think
is realistic in terms of if we're not gonna be
we'll be a little bit more reckless with the spending perhaps,
uh enough here with what you know, the financials of
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it all.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Well, I think that the way that that's going to
affect things more is going to be in the Lakers
like sort of building out their organization, you know that,
hiring more scouts, hiring pro personnel scouts which they don't have.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Yeah, we didn't have scouts.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
I was like, what, No, No, no, they have scouts,
they just didn't have like out scouting the NBA.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Yeah, yeah, that's what I mean, Like like other teams did.
I'm like, oh, we're truly like kind of resting on
our Laurels to be like, you.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Know, yeah, yeah, a little bit, uh yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
But when I read that, I was like, come on, baby,
you can't.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
They're like sort of they were like, you know, Rob
watches all the Laker games, so he'll see the guys
when they play against us. I guess, like that's it's fine. Yeah,
And so you know, they're just gonna have a lot
of re sources like that. You've seen the Dodgers. It's
not just that they spent on payroll. It's that they
have like a best in class organization in terms of
you know, and that's what that guy did there, and
he sort of slow built that up. He found the
(35:10):
right gm, he built around him. He you know, like
fleshed out the front office with as many smart people
that he could hire. And like that's really the area
where your money can have more impact than on player salaries,
because especially in this second Apron era, you know, there's
so many basketball penalties to exceeding that that you're almost
better off. Like everybody's gonna spend essentially the same amount.
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Very few teams are going to go like ware. I mean,
some teams may go under the first apron you know,
but very few teams are going to go over the
second apron for a long time, and so you almost
can get more bang for your buck. I think in
just like trying to build out your other advantages in
terms of scouting, in terms of getting the best coaches
possible on not just your main coach, but your assistant coaches,
all of that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
But Harrison, you're talking about I found it sounds like
the concept you're talking about things like long term sustainability, stability, bruh.
The question is how am I getting to the finals
next year?
Speaker 2 (36:02):
You know I need that.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Well, so I think the Bucks are really going to
want the Lakers twenty thirty one first round pick, you
know you'd think, And so I think that's enough to
get Giannis.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Twenty thirty one.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Yeah, yeah, I think that's a gale.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
I think I want to hear. Yeah, you know that's
what I want to hear. Thank you, Thank you. Tell
me about the Rabbits, George.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
I think you know, if you just if you throw
in Dalton connect yeah, I think it's like back. I
think you'll want to be a bar yeah, to.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Build around for the future Lakers. Then I think, yeah,
but no, no no, no, no no no no no no no.
I think I think side connect No maybe yeah, yeah,
just super producer Jabari is pointing out, like maybe we're
talking pick swap here.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
I don't know, You're right negotiating against myself if I'm
going to them, I'm calling up Milwaukee and I'm saying,
you can have one second round pick swap for Giannis.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Yeah. By the end of the day, Lakers, the balls
in your court, sir, yeah, good night.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Do you want the number one draft pick next year?
I'm just saying, Baltimore court hangs.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Up one last thing on the off season, moves Drew
Holliday going back to the Blazers, Anthony Simon's going to
the Celtics. Sits so badly with me.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Such a weird trade, such.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
A weird trade that just feel it feels like it's
being written by the Celtics, Like the Celtics just needed
this and so they got it, Like I don't know,
like they got they got the Blazers, Like, here's Drew
Holliday for the two years where you need him and
can win the championship, and then you give him back
to us for our young prospect who we currently say
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is like completely untouchable. And I know he wasn't like
great last season, but still just feels like, I don't know, man.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
They did, like what those the European soccer teams did.
They sent Drew Holliday to the Celtics on loan, you know,
and they're getting him back now and yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
You guys done? Are you sure? Okay?
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Yeah, you just send him back? And do you guys
want Anthony Simons? Maybe? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Joe Cronin saw he's like the last team to show.
The last two teams to trade for Drew Holiday won
a title the first year. I gotta go get this guy.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
That's right?
Speaker 1 (38:14):
What's his contract even worth? Like this, isn't it something
wacky too? Like he's not he's on He's on big money,
isn't he.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Yeah, it's thirty to forty million, I think if I'm
remembering correctly, I mean, yeah, he's.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
From a salary perspective. Again, why the Celtics did it?
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Right?
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Right?
Speaker 1 (38:30):
But I'm like, what, Okay, Well, good luck to you
in Portland, good luck to you all.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Right, let's uh should we take a break and come
back and do the final rapid fire round of questions.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Oh sure, I guess we have to. Okay, okay, we'll
be right back.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
Man, we're back back one last one, last evil laugh. Why, okay,
I'm fine. I'm fine.
Speaker 7 (39:13):
Here's a thing, and you've just made it to the
full quarter of before the questions the christ this podcast
history in the podcast it's on iheard, co produced with
the NBA, co hosted by people named Johns and Jack.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
Giles and Mac.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
We're gonna ask you a question of those words.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
Just it's very important from a legal yeah, from from
legally you have to know.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
But we're gonna ask you a question.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
You just respond your chest passed it right back, just
right back to us. Okay, don't think about it, just answer.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
I'm happy to I know how this works.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Okay, you are you are, my sweet sweet boosties child, Brian.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
If you want to.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Go first, Jackers, I'd.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Love for you to go first.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Okay, Harrison, we're gonna do this player pairing or that
player pairing that you would prefer to see where you
could get with that.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
I think you should get with this. This is where
it's at the first one.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Okay, this or that Luca and Yannie or Wenby.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Wenby and Yannis.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
I think, whoa, that would be crazy. Those guys are
both so tall.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
How does that work? I just think, is it not
rapid fire? But I think, uh, your defense is just
impossible to score on with.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
Those defense is actually also important.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
It turns out guys named Harrison love defense and think
of the championships, so you know they do say that.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
All right, Luca and Joker where Joker and Wemby. I
feel like, we we know you're Wemby over Luca. Is
that correct? Ah?
Speaker 2 (41:07):
I think I'd go Luca and Joker just because that
would be you know, yeah, yeah, I think I think
their offense would be so unstoppable that playing that Balkin
ball oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah, sign me up. Wemby
Jokic just feels like a weird fit to me. I'm
not sure, like they they're both great, they'd make it work,
but it's just like it's a strange fit.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
It feels like somehow they would get in each other's
way physically.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Yeah, no, you can't have that, not at the same
time on the same team.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
Oh my god, get out of my way? What are
you doing?
Speaker 2 (41:38):
Although Wemby would be thrilled. He's like, I don't have
to guard Yokic anymore.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
I love this Luca and Wemby or Joker and Yannis.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
I think we maybe know this Luca and Wemby or
Joker and Yannis. I would go. I think probably Joker
and yannism.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
Yeah, I'm just I'm just imagining both of those.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
I just know.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Actually I'm going Luca Wenby.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Yeah, I just like Giannis, I hasn't shown me enough
off the ball to be like that. It's like, oh,
he's immediately going to go sort of run off if
you get like you would want him to. Yeah, I
think I think it's Luca and.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
That you will notice that we just go silent when
you do the wrong the wrong answer and until answer.
I'm not that one, Okay, Luca Shay, You'll just Alexander
or Luca and Ant And these are being presented by
jabari as just like these are options here because all
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of these guys are gonna come home eventually.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
I'm going Luca and Ant because I just think Aunt
was born to be a Laker like many great players
from the history of Minnesota, and you know, I think
he could be the city's latest greatest Minneapolis import.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
Mm hmm, absolutely, absolutely, it's just a pipeline something from
there's a there's a long tradition of Minneapolis handing things
to Los Angeles so that they can flourish.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
We just drink their milkshake as it were. Okay, So, Harrison,
we just talked about the KD trade. Uh And we
had the Desmond Baine news last week where he said
I was in a chamber.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Of darkness like Baine.
Speaker 3 (43:19):
It was so dark in that windowless facility.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
Can you give us your predictions on where these players
are gonna end up next season?
Speaker 2 (43:26):
And get getting silly with it? That cool?
Speaker 3 (43:35):
Well, you had to do that or else it falls apart.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
It really falls apart.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
It really falls apart, to be honest, To.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
Be honest, Harrison, where's Gianni's going to be next season?
Speaker 3 (43:47):
Okay? And now and now do a silly one?
Speaker 2 (43:50):
I just a Toronto?
Speaker 3 (43:52):
Wow? Why Toronto?
Speaker 2 (43:56):
I don't know. It just seems like the type of
thing that they do, like where you know, they swine
on the wildly talented wing that is available to them
for some reason, for lower than it would be for
other teams, and you know, just go win a title.
That's what miss I does.
Speaker 3 (44:11):
All right, joh and Triple J. Where are they going?
Speaker 2 (44:15):
They're they're both going to the same team. They're getting
sent out in like a sure. No, I think I
think as good as you are, you can always get better,
you know, use some some more bench weapons. Yeah, Jos
six Man of the Year, you know, it's perfect role.
What about Lebron James, I mean really the only answer Actually,
(44:38):
you know what I'm gonna say. He wants to he
wants to go rejoin with a d and he's wanted
to play with Kyrie. Uh, you know, he's just like, yeah,
it seems like they get things done for their players
over there as long as they're not Luca. You know,
he wanted a center, he got, he got seven centers,
So you know, Lebron, Lebron's gonna get nine point guards
to take the load off of him until he gets
tired of them and takes over at point guard.
Speaker 3 (45:00):
All right.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
And finally, Jalen Brown, I would have said the Rockets
until they made the Katie trade, because that seemed like
it was something that was, you know, maybe gonna happen. Yeah,
the Hawks, they want to make some noise m hm
from Atlanta, bringing them home. Yeah, from Atlanta. Yeah, and Harrison,
all the right answers.
Speaker 3 (45:21):
Yeah, well that's no. We got to bring it home now, Oh, yeah,
to bring Those were the right answers. But I can't. Oh,
this could be the wrong answer answer in that section.
Those are all the right answers.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
This next section, this could be a wrong answer, and
there is a wrong answer one last time, Harrison Fagan
for everybody in the back.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
Jacker, Miles, Miles, Uh, you know la receptionalism.
Speaker 3 (45:52):
Oh, the right answer.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
Look, I do it. I can't. I can't pick some
East Coaster come on.
Speaker 3 (45:59):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
I needed that.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
I needed that.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
Jack's fine, He's fine, He's gonna be fine. He's gonna
jack about him. Jack, you're my second favorite host, you know. Yeah,
You're means a lot. That's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (46:12):
You know, it's huge top two Miles and Jack, it's okay.
I believe I was three and one hundred and sixty
eight according to Ryan, So that's that all makes sense
for the hundred and seventy one episodes.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
Or he asked that, Well, we stopped asking for a
while because it was getting a little silly.
Speaker 3 (46:31):
No, So what happened is we we stopped leaving it
in the episode. We we asked every time, and it
was like whenever they'd say Miles, I'd be like, caught it, Yeah,
caught it.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
You broke a lot of desks. I remember we did
you seriously used to ask every guest. Yeah, we know
that's insane.
Speaker 3 (46:49):
Oh insanely good, right, good content.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
I feel worse for Jack. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (46:57):
Oh yeah, man, no, sorry, it's been a hard road,
you know, and me and taking some solace from Sam Press.
You just keep doing it. Keep wait, the show's ending.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
Yeahs can cut a long run short, as they say,
you know, and we took no shortcuts.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
And this was a long and storied ride.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
So, Harrison Fagan, thank you so much for joining us
on the final episode of Miles and.
Speaker 3 (47:24):
Jack Got Mad Boosties.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
Where the where did the people find you?
Speaker 1 (47:27):
Because you continue on to cover the league.
Speaker 3 (47:31):
Miles and I disappear at the end of this episode
like obibi just a pile of clothes.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
Yeah, oh my god, Jack just went in a force
go he really just he just disappeared. It's just closed,
just dropped to the ground and he's blue. Yeah, I
uh you know. You can follow me on Twitter at
at h M Fagan. Uh and then obviously all of
our work over at sp nation dot com. And guys,
thanks for having me for the last one. It's an
it's been an honor. And uh yeah I was. I
(47:57):
was not excited to get the call because it means
the show's ending, but you know, I appreciate the invite.
Speaker 1 (48:03):
Oh man, well, you can find me everywhere at Miles
of Gray if you still if you still want, if
you still wish, And.
Speaker 3 (48:11):
Obviously on other show, the Daily Zeitegist that guys still
going on on that Jack Underscore Obrian on Twitter, Jack
obi the number one on Blue Sky a reference to
Obi Wan and my ability to just turn into a
pile of clothes.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
Yep, oh my god, you came back.
Speaker 3 (48:27):
Yeah, there he is there we are. Uh, that's it.
Speaker 2 (48:31):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (48:32):
Don't search hashtag mat boosties for links and updates because
it's can be it. But we will be talking NBA
on uh.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
Dailey's Eitgeist and of course, yeah, the the chattering still
goes on again. Thank you to everybody who played a
pivotal role in this show. Obviously Jabari Davis, Brian the editor,
our two biggest day ones Literal day Ones on this show.
This show would not be where it is without your work,
your dedication, lending me your basketball intelligence to pretend I'm
(49:02):
not just a totally out of my mind Laker fan,
and I do know some things about the other teams
from time to time.
Speaker 3 (49:07):
So I do owe you a debt of gratitude forever. Jabari. Also,
just you know, the iHeart family, Sean Peter Race, you know,
day one and the NBA people, Steven Channing, Meredith, love
to you all.
Speaker 1 (49:21):
Thank you for taking a chance on two.
Speaker 3 (49:23):
Just Adam is over, Yeah, Silver Adam was a big
fan Lebron Jamee. Come on. We were like, let's not
mix business and pleasure at him. But you know, always
fun and you know these past three years as a
Sixers fan a lot of times, but I'm looking back
at that beach and I only see one set of footsteps, yep,
And I say, Miles, why did you abandon me? You say, Jack,
(49:47):
it was it was during those seasons that I carried you,
and so I have to thank you as well.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
Oh man, Well Jack, I'll.
Speaker 3 (49:55):
See you tomorrow anyway, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (49:57):
Hope listen, but thank you all for listening, and we'll
see you soon.
Speaker 3 (50:02):
Later bribe
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