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August 12, 2024 54 mins

In this edition of My Trend Will Go On, Jack and special guest host Pallavi Gunalan discuss their respective weekends, the closing ceremonies of the Olympics, the stunning(ly bad) breakdancing performance from B-Girl Ray Gun, Trump's campaign getting "hacked" by Iran, Kamala's "fake" support, the NYT's article on Trump's bad last couple of weeKs on the campaign trail and much more!

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
So you don't you're in LA, but you don't know
if the Hollywood sign has changed colors.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
I haven't looked outside. I saw that on Twitter like
last night, but I wasn't paying attention.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
The whole thing. The whole LA thing was like so
fake like they I mean, I guess I guess it
was by it, like they couldn't actually fly Tom Cruise
warp speed back to Los Angeles, but just like felt
I don't know that first of all, that they went
to Long Beach instead of Venice, like they seemed to

(00:40):
indicate they were going to Venice, and then it was
Long Beach.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
So you're talking about like in the closing ceremony they
had him like transfer it basically to LA.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yeah, And so I didn't see the full thing. I
just saw him like repelling into the tweets about.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
It, and that scared you, and so you ran away
and stopped at that point. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah, So you're saying it was just like very fake,
which does feel very Hollywood.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
Yeah, it just felt like so he got the thing right.
It just felt the whole closing ceremony in France was
so like experimental art piece, like what are they trying
to say, it was like so slow, they didn't give
a fuck that they were making it, just like in
a wildly uncomfortable watch. And then the second like Tom

(01:31):
Cruise repels in and it's like quickly edited. They're like yeah, yeah, YadA,
YadA YadA, like do the red dot flying across the
globe like in Indiana Jones And then he's like skydives
for no reason and makes the Hollywood Sign a different color.
Although we still don't know and there's no way to
know really if that's actually happened to the Hollywood Sign

(01:54):
other than you looking at your window.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
And I refuse to do that. I refuse to give
Tom Cruise. When I look at my window, I see
this Scientology building and that's enough attention Tom Cruise for me.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Done. He had done something to the Scientology building. That
was the big reveal.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Yeah, he's like, this is where the Olympics are going
to take place now.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Yeah, Hello the Internet, and welcome to this week trend
edition of Daily. It's a production of iHeartRadio. It's a
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It's Monday morning, Monday afternoon, depending on where you are.

(02:35):
I'm Jack O'Brien and I am thrilled to be joined
by very special guest co host with the mo host,
a hilarious and brilliant stand up comedium writer, actor improviser.
It's pobably Ganollo.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
It's you, your favorite non Olympian.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
Come on, you're you're an Olympian in our hearts.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Oh, thank you so much. I will drown. I will
drown in that pool.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
That was just drown in front of everybody.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Well, that's like there was that tweet that was going around.
That's like, if you feel useless in your life, just
know that there's a lifeguard at the Olympics. It's doing
nothing and it's like, if I was anywhere near that pool,
you'd be doing a lot.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
That pool so deep, or at least like the diving
pools I was. I had the question, how deep are
those diving pools? They look crazy deep. Yes, I'll go.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
To the other side of the area. I feel like
every time I saw this, the swimmers go under, I
was like, save them, and then they came.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Back up and I was like, oh, get back, Oh no, okay,
what's gonna happen. Yeah, that swimming, I think in particular,
and there have been videos of this where they show
you like regular swimmers versus Olympic level swimmers. Yeah, and
it's just bonkers.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
We're Olympic level swimmers from like the nineteen thirty Yeah,
like the track athletes, you know. Yeah, they didn't have
the technology back then, they did.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Not they also, Yeah, it was just like there were
like five people in each town who knew how to swim,
and they they sent them to try and do the
Olympic for Yeah, exactly, freestyle was really free. It was like,
I don't know, is this something that that was how

(04:31):
they swam. But we're gonna talk Olympics. But this is
of course the episode where we let you get to
know us a little bit better by telling you guys
something that we think is overrated, underrated. Let's let's start
with underrated. Paulavi, do you have something I know? I

(04:52):
just kind of sprung this on you. You were you
were not familiar with the format. Do you do you
want me to kick us off?

Speaker 2 (04:58):
You go either way? I have have something I can
talk about.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Hit me with something you think is underrated.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Cheap people, we exist, we're important. We're getting you free shit.
Yesterday I was at my dog rescues like adoption event,
and it had like all these stalls and I just
went around. First thing I did, fuck the dogs. Okay,
first thing I did. I went around and I caught

(05:27):
I'm like the volunteer that's like trying to get some adopted.
But I'm like, forget this, I need free shit for
my dogs.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
And I was the only one of the volunteers who
like did like was very Indian about it, and like
was like, hey, can I get like another stuffed toy
from my dog? And I came away from that with
a whole bag of swag, came up on squat. I
feel like in every family there's like a cheap person

(05:54):
who like haggles and gets stuff for their family, and
everybody's like, oh my god, this is so embarrassing, and
then they get all the free ship.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
I feel like, come on, we're out there, we're the
soldiers doing the brave work of debasing ourselves for free
shit for you.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
And do you put the stuff to use, like you'll
you'll actually use those stuff stuff toys.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
Nice, they already destroyed one, you know. I have like
a ton of treats that I got them. Of course,
I'm advocating for all the people who can't, you know,
talk to the waiter themselves, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
Yeah, we can't feel too embarrassed to ask for like birthday,
or we could pretend it is if you're yeah, yeah,
all right, shout out to the shout out to the cheap.
My underrated is I got two one is. I think

(06:47):
my brain was just like, I don't smoke weed anymore,
but my brain just like has these periods where I
feel like I'm like having high thoughts and so, uh,
my two underrateds are seashells and identical twins.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
And like acid flashbacks but yeah flash.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Works, Yeah, where I'm just like like seeing it again
for the first time through like high eyes and I'm
I so, I'm I'm down to shore with my kids,
and my kids are just running around, you know, obsessed
with seashells. My eight year old is into collecting broken shells,

(07:28):
which at a certain point is annoying because what the
fuck am I going to do with all of these
broken shells? Like pave a bar parking lot in Key West.
But the more time I spent with him really looking
at the seashells, I feel like he's probably right, Like
the sea just kind of spits out a bunch of

(07:50):
artwork that is like a minus sixth grader art project artwork,
Like it's better than ninety percent of the like sculptures
I have ever made or really seen. And like the
colors or like the colors usually go together really well
on the seashells, and.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
You're like, you know what, see, nice job, nice job,
I see, You're very good, pretty good most of the time.
I literally had this thought recently because when I was
a kid, I used to be that kid who collects
all the seashells, and like even like my dad or
whatever would bring a seashell back from like a beach
he was on, and they are like really beautiful, and

(08:31):
like all the different shapes and the fact that they're
imperfect but still beautiful.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Yeah, like a little shard of one that you're like, oh,
this thing was beautiful. Like the full version of this
was unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
They're homes to creatures.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
They're homes. They are just a bunch of houses for mollusks.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Tiny homes, tiny tiny huh.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
They were on the tiny home wave before humans. Yeah.
I think I think I just got older and aliced
over by life and stopped having the wonder. But I
think I am wrong and the kids are right on
this one. And seashells are fucking cool. Just straight up,
they do great work. The ocean does great work every day.

(09:14):
Plus they've like been in the depths of the sea.
They've like seen some shit and then you know, came
out beautiful and they still come out beautiful us. And
then back to the Olympics. My identical twins one just
watching synchronized swimming, and they were like, and this is
our first of six different duos who are identical twins.

(09:36):
Like they're so like, being an identical twin is basically
a performance enhancing drug for synchronized swimming, which I don't know.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
I wait, so that was actually a thing, Like they
were actually twins in synchronized women.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
Yeah, a bunch of there were multiple twins that were
doing synchronized Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
I saw that there were a couple track athletes that
were twins. I forget what their names started with an S,
but they're like these gorgeous women that were twins and
track athletes.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
Why are all the track athletes so gorgeous? Those were
literally I was like, why is everybody so beautiful. What
the fuck is happening? It's like when you see like
NFL quarterbacks, and a bunch of the NFL quarterbacks are
all like really handsome, You're like, why are all these
track athletes like the most beautiful humans I've ever seen?
It doesn't make sense.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
We're gonna be like, hey kid, you got a face
for track?

Speaker 1 (10:29):
You know, face for track? Doesn't make sense. But it
did make me again like have high mind, just the
identical twins. Like thinking about it again, I was like,
this would be like if it wasn't real, it would
have been invented by a sci fi writer and it

(10:50):
would have been like a mind blowing work of science fiction,
Like what if there was a type of person who
looked exactly like you but also had your like same
insides and a lot of like your same personality. Like
I don't know, it's just a philosphic, philosophical like mind
fuck that we just you know, we we've lived with forever,

(11:11):
so it's not that weird to us. But yeah, I
don't know. And then this like sent me down a
rabbit hole of just weird Olympic athlete hacks, like apparently
swimmers have to have really long torsos and short legs
because like everything below the waist is I guess useless.

(11:32):
So like Michael Phelps in person looks like he's walking
around on his knees, but he's got like webbing Yama's wingspan,
like he's just wild.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yeah, and then I was I just remember like at
the time, everybody who was commenting on the Olympics, they'd
be like, he's so graceful in the water, and he
looks like a fucking dog on land. He looks disgusting,
like some sort of deep sea fish. Get the fuck
off land, Michael Phelps, get back in the water. We
don't want to see you.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
You look like shit. Pal. Also, water polo players have
to have long forearms, which is just so that they
can yeah, just so they can like throw. I guess
that like helps them with the which is interesting. It's
just like weird little details of the human body. I
never would have thought.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
Weird for those people, because everybody's like, oh, you're tall,
do you play basketball? Like that's a thing, But nobody's like, oh,
you have long form arms. But yeah, how do these
people like find It's it's amazing to me when people
find the thing that they're amazing at like Simone Biles,
you know, like how she had the body for and

(12:43):
the mental capacity and like all everything had to come
together for her to be who she is. That's such
a beautiful thing.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Yeah, I think I have to give my overrated to
like every athlete that's not Simone Biles. Like when you
see how fucking high she umps, it's truly incredible.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
Like she's like five x her height is to the
boundary line. Because fuck that when she's jumping that high
and she steps out of bounds, Like, let.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
Her like her just what we do now? If she
steps out of bounds, that's what we do now. Although
she was so cool about giving you know, she was
so chill. Yeah, she like bowed down to the woman
who won gold and was like really cool. Yeah, fuck
the boundary line, I got, yeah, well we'll come back,

(13:32):
we'll talk about we'll do our Olympic uh decompress. But
I got, I got real into it. I was I
was like refreshing the metal count over the weekend.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Oh that was the thing I didn't really care about that.
Did China win that?

Speaker 1 (13:53):
No, we ended up tied with China for gold, and
then overall metal count uh, the United States ended up winning,
so but it was was touch and go there for
a little while. We needed needed that US men's basketball title,
and they came through for us. All Right, let's uh,

(14:15):
let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.
And we're back and the Olympics are over. We got
to watch a very weird, very French closing ceremony. We

(14:41):
got to meet Ygun b girl Raygun on the way out.
That was wild. So just let's just kind of go
through impressions thoughts. As mentioned I, you know, Miles and
I were talking about I was like not prepared for

(15:02):
how into the Olympics I was going to be and
then kind of gets me every time, but this time
in particular, I was refreshing the medal count all weekend
to see if the US was going to catch China.
I had multiple conversations where I was like, they should
have like a gold Derby or like a New York
Times election needle style list of like expected medals and

(15:26):
remaining events because because they just like they don't because
of the tape delay, they're like not trying to be
very forthcoming about when things are happening. So you'll watch
someone win a gold on TV and then like not
know if that gold is already included in the total,
and like they're very loose with like live. You know,

(15:48):
it says live sometimes when that shit is not live.
But anyways, I have that thought every four years where
I'm like, they should make it easier, Like someone should
just have like a hacked together unofficial web should be
that guy.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
I'm seeing it happen.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
I'm seeing it happen, but I'm also not the sort
of person who remembers to do that.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
Thing I was thinking that about the Olympics in general,
is like it's really cool to be able to see
all of these sports that maybe you don't regularly have
access to or aren't popularized in the same way during
those four years, and to be able to like get
really into like I'm not out here like watching two

(16:31):
hundred meter race, you know what I mean, Like I'm
not out here watching synchronized swimming, even though there may
be events, but it makes me want to go to
more events in between, because it does give you an
appreciation for all of these different techniques and mental fortitude
that all of these different athletes have to have.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
You're fucking bonkers, like the way they're able to suspend
themselves in the water like and just do whatever they
want with their body, like in time with one another
is really uh.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
And the timing of it because I don't remember water, Like,
how do you hear the beat? Like you just counting?
Like that's crazy, that's raw dogging beats in rhythm. That's right,
that's I don't understand that.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
Yeah. Yeah, their heads are underwater, so they can't know.
They're just like kind of tracking one another. The Yeah,
I learned something about an athlete, and then if somebody
walked into the room, I act like I've always known
that thing about them. I'm like, oh, yeah, she's she's
she's the best. She would actually win the four hundred

(17:35):
hurdles if the other girls weren't even jumping over hurdles.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
That the term repage like I knew what it meant
this whole Yeah, like a little the the isn't it?
The the repasage rounds where they like it was like
the rescue rounds for like the track runs qualifying and
I think.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
I watched it usually without much audio.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Oh, I had to listen to the commentary because some
of it was so fun like watching Noah Eagle. Noah
Eagle and Dwayne Wade comment on things was so fun.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
Yeah, yeah, because.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Dayne Wade was like, I'm a Hooper and no Eagles
be really serious. They were great. I loved it. But
it was like the right dynamic.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Yeah. They the basketball was you know we I think
the last time we recorded the Serbia game was happening.
Both the Serbia game and the France game for the
US basketball were like high points for sports fandom for me.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Those were really fun games.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
It really felt like they, like the US was like, okay,
let me just like relax a little bit, and then
they had to like amp themselves up and be like
we're not going to be disrespected. Like Seth Curry like
turned it to turbo mode the last game.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
Yeah, Miles said it as the Serbia game was going on,
and then a lot of people have since come to this,
but it really was like an Avengers film, Like it
was like, yeah, they were losing and then just just
in time and like on command, everybody's very special super
power like came out and they were able to like

(19:24):
do their thing. But yeah, Steph Curry, who had been
not great in the Olympics up to those last two
games was so so awesome. Was like really, you know,
proved that he's the greatest shooter of all time, greatest
shot maker of all time. The three he hit where

(19:46):
he had like two people on him and he was
like fading away and just like looked like he flung
it up.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
Those those like pictures were insane. If you've seen stills
from it.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
Yeah, Webbing Ama like trying to block it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
And the French commentators on that were like, Steph Curry
the devil, stuph Curry is done, He's hurting us, He's
doing it. They calling him the devil and saying he was.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
Hurting the French. I do enjoy like that. That's something
that I've I still remember when he went off like
early in his career against Oklahoma, the Oklahoma City Thunder,
and somebody was just like, Steph got a demon, that's all.

(20:34):
That's the only And I've always remember that because that
does It's one of those things like sometimes my kids
will have a temper tantrum like this where I'm like, oh,
I understand exactly why people believed in Satan before, you know,
like when when before like we knew science and psychology,
and like I feel like Steph Curry is the other reason,

(20:57):
like something yeah, like if awesome ande do that like
two hundred years ago, you would definitely have to at least,
you know, make sure that they could couldn't withstand like
a boiling body of water or something.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
All those Salem witches were just like really good at track,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
Yeah, maybe they're just like damn, did you see the
vert on her day?

Speaker 2 (21:21):
We're just synchronized swimmers and it.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
Took out some of her greatest athletes. And then of course,
I mean there's also the really cute Chinese silver medalist
and rhythmic gymnastics who saw the Italians doing the like
bite the metal with the side of the mouth thing
and then was like made an audible like oh and
then bit like put it in her mouth like a

(21:44):
cookie or like a pacifier or something that really cute.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
I love watching the metal ceremonies because it's afterwards and
like everybody is like just so excited to be up there.
And then like even watching the women's like weightlifting, it
just looked so beautiful. I love watching women just like
hug each other on the podium.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
I love the hugs. The hugs are humans crave hugs.
We crave like contact with one another. Uh. And it's
like you see it in athletics, Like you see it
when like somebody's going to the free throw line in
basketball and like they have to touch every other member
of their team's hand before they shoot and after they shoot,
and like they've done studies where that actually helps.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Like it's like improv. It's like I got your back
on improv where right before you go on stage you
pat each other on the back and you're like, I
got your back, I got your back, I got your back.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yeah. The only NBA teams the US men's basketball did
zip zops app also, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
You could tell they were really in tune. That's what
one of their times that timeout was for. That would
be such a fun uh like Patch Adams like like
because I know Seth Crey has his show that's out,
but it'd be so funny if that's like they were,
there's a coach trying to get who was in improv,
who's trying to get them? That's a team.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
Oh yeah, like a ten lasso with an improv coach
coaching in the NBA.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
Yeah, there's uh, the only two uh moments that I
will say didn't happen is Jordan Chiles is still Lebronze medalist,
and nobody dunked on Lebron and we can just move on,
you know what I mean, we can just keep.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
Going Lebron he was trying to take a charge. I
feel like I know it over.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
It didn't happen.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
People like this is worse than nine to eleven. I know, it's.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
Dunk denialists.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Yeah, he was doing. He was so good that whole game.
He's like Lebron has gone up a whole new level
in my mind, Like I've always been a huge Lebron
stand but like what he was doing. Some of the
passes he was throwing throwing were so cool, and he
did it all with like a gray, old old ass
man beard. I know, I love.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
It's crazy that he's playing with his son. That's insane
that like, that's how old he is, and he's been
this good for this long.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
It's bonkers, all right. And then of course there was
Rey gun Uh doctor Rachel Gunn I think is her name.
She So I've heard it said a bunch of times
that they should let an average person compete in every
Olympic event for context, they finally did it by accident

(24:28):
in breakdancing. It did not go the way I would
have expected. The yeah, I don't know, hopefully you got
to see this Australian breakdancer before they like pulled all
the clips off social I think there's still some floating around.
Mostly it is people taking a video of their TV

(24:50):
and just laughing.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
She basically was just like there were serious breakdancers, and
then she looked like she was just making fun of them.
She looked like she was from Alabi's Most Wanted. Like
it was this white, thirty six year old PhD woman
who was I guess trying to prove a point, which
is the whitest shit ever is to go into a

(25:13):
space created by black culture and then act like you
know more about it because you're being an academic about
it and not appreciating the culture.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
It just it really seemed like someone was like making
fun like my, you know uncle, who's like breakdancing that
shouldn't be a sport, Like was watch breakdance and then
was like, oh, yeah I can do that too, this
is you or like the comparison I saw a lot
of people make is to like a five year old

(25:45):
immediately after watching an actual breakdancer, like yeah, be like,
oh yeah, we'll check this out. Like that's kind of
what it felt like.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
The crazy thing is she got through like all the
trials and everything, and so it just like I don't
understand like what she was trying to prove or what
her message was. And the thing is like I don't
want to give air to it, Like I don't want
to understand it. I'm mad that she's famous. I'm mad
that she let people are like she's like this is

(26:16):
such a like a beautiful, like a fun moment, like
it made it the Olympics accessible. No, it's like demeaning
to break dancers. It's I think, to media to like
black culture, Like I don't I'm I'm just like pissed
that that spot was taken by her.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
Yeah. It it really reminded me of this Naked Gun
umpire scene like where he like goes under cover as
an umpire and like doesn't know the rules of baseball
and it's just like kind of making it up as
he goes along. Like yeah, I think roy Wood Junior
made that comparison. The confidence, the utter ineptitude just to

(27:00):
an amazing combination. It's probably bad for breakdancing. I think
you're right, Like it was the fact that that was
the thing that Kate people took away from break dancing
rather than like the gold medal winner is a bummer.
At the same time, it was incredibly entertaining. So yeah,

(27:24):
I don't know. And and it looks like breakdancing is
not going to be back in la unfortunately.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
So this white lady like took it away.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
So they had already made that decision at a time.
But yeah, I blame ray Gun. Yeah she didn't even
like she just wore the Australian like warm up that
they like gave all the Olympic athletes. It was a
it was a wild look.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
It felt like she stumbled into it for sure.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
Yeah, Like it felt like someone woke her up that
morning was like you have to break dance. What it's like, Yeah,
here's a video of somebody else doing it. You need
to be out there in fifteen minutes. Anyways, Uh, the
NBC is still trying to make Jimmy Fallon happen. That

(28:17):
was the other kind of bummer thing. But other than that,
it's just so I don't know, did not need like
reaction shots of Jimmy Fallon during like these super iconic
basketball moments, like Steph Curry hit that shot, and then
the NBC's like cutaway to Jimmy Fallon's reaction shot, like,
I don't know, he's.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
Like doing like he's he's doing like a song with
the roots on the side. He's like he's doing bits.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
Yeah, but yeah. And then they had him like narrating
the closing ceremonies and just kind of like fucking up
the vibes. He asked Katie Ledecki if she was going
to fly home or swim home, and she was like, sorry,
I didn't hear that, and he was just like we
just all we love you so much the respect that

(29:05):
he bailed on the joke. Anyways, all right, let's take
a quick break. We'll come back. We'll check in with
the Trump campaign and other news stories.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
We'll be right back, and we're back and back back
to real life.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
No more, no more burying ourselves in the Olympics.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Time to so that there's still a presidential election coming up.
Apparently a couple updates on that front. Trump's campaign was
hacked by Iran and you hate.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
To do it, do they just hand over documents.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Right, somebody just emailed them and asked for them. They're
according to the Trump campaign, they were hacked by Iran
and issued a statement. It sounded like so weirdly familiar.
I can't I can't put my finger on why it
sounds so familiar. But they were saying these documents were

(30:12):
obtained illegally from foreign sources hostile to the United States,
intended to interfere with the twenty twenty four election, and
so chaos through our throughout our democratic process. You'd think
they would have like done something to like put it
in Trump's voice, so it wouldn't sound exactly like the
Hillary Clinton campaign when they were.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
Hacked by Russia, like so wild.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
It's like it's it's.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
Like when Milania stole Michelle Obama's.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
Speech, still my favorite speech, the best. She just like
removed some words, but like it was no longer grammatical.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
I think politicians should be able to do covers. I
think that's fair. Yeah, yeah, if we're still talking about
the same issue, we should still be able to use
the same speeches.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
The hackers apparently send a shitload of documents to Politico,
and while Politico hasn't published anything. They did give us
the most appetizing little morsel in a description of what
was in the documents, they said, one is a quote
research dossier the campaign apparently conducted on JD Vance.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
It's just a bunch of testimonies from couches.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
That's right, Like there's pizzas in there. What if they're like, look,
we have nothing to base this on. It's he never
wrote it, but the guy has the vibes of somebody
who fus couches. We can't explain it, but just beware
if one person suggests that, even remotely suggests that on

(31:50):
social media, Uh, it's going to catch on. Like if
their intelligence was that.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
Good, it's like the Batman dossier on the rest of
the Justice League. But it's just like a fire all
full of couch.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
Couch couch shit. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe it would
be boring since they did end up choosing him, so
apparently whatever they found was not so it was not
enough to scare them off. The advance trant.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
That like, the only people that are competent maybe put
together put it together. And then Trump didn't read it.
He just was like, what does my son want me
to do?

Speaker 1 (32:30):
Yeah, it also apparently has vetting of the VP candidates
who didn't make it, like Marco Rubio. So uh, should
be interesting if that ever drops. But just a quick
vibes check for the race. It feels like, and again

(32:51):
you do hate to see it, folks. Feels like Trump
and his supporters are really struggling right now. We're seeing
a lot of energy for Harris and Walls and a
lot of responses for Trump and team that seem pretty
out of line with what is actually happening. You know,

(33:14):
their Harris. So apparently Harris had twelve thousand people turn
out for her rallies and Philly in Wisconsin, fifteen thousand
in Detroit. Vegas had twelve thousand people inside UNLV's arena
and they had to like turn four thousand people away
because they were getting heatstroked because it was one hundred

(33:35):
and nine degrees outside.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
Some Waltz had to stop his speech in multiple cities
and be like, someone, get that person water.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
Like a fucking beetle. Like it was like beatle Mania,
Like people are fainting in the front row and he's
having to like point them out. Yeah, but meanwhile Trump
is like launching conspiracy theories about their crowd size, claiming
like the images and report about Kamala having big crowds

(34:05):
or like digital manipulations. He like posted a photograph of
like this massive crowd outside of air Force too, like
where you know, on the tarmac, and it does look
altered like it just like the picture is like a
little crisp. I don't know if like they you know,
did some touch up work on it. But he was like,

(34:27):
you know, just with it. He said, look, we caught
it with a fake quote crowd. There was nobody there,
and like all you would have to do is search
on the internet for any want like a video of it,
and you would have been able to find that this

(34:48):
was in fact by photograph from fifteen thousand people showing
up in Detroit for them.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
It also is like he's using the same arguments that
they're using in order to try to boost the numbers
around his crowds, which is he's saying like, oh, they
turned them away. I don't want to turn them away,
but they said they had to turn them away for
his rallies, And it's like what are they can turn
like four more people away that many people outside or

(35:17):
like jd Vance had a rally but it was mostly
like press people and it was just like because nobody
wanted to be around them. So it's just like super awkward.
But it's crazy how the ratings invigorate Trump, Like that's
clearly his motivator for everything. That like spices up his attacks,
Like yeah, he gets some like it really upsets him

(35:41):
that she is having these this energy and this crowd
and these donations and things, and he's still stuck on Biden.
He's still posting about like Biden.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
Yeah, fan fishing is going to like take the nomination
back at the DNC. He Yeah, he just can't. He
can't see the appeal of Kamala Harris and his supporters,
like his most ardent supporters can't see the appeal of

(36:12):
Kamala Harris because they're racist, and so they can't deal
with it. Like they're really having a hard time dealing
like making sense of it. Like they see the massive crowd,
they see people excited, and they're like those people can't exist.

(36:33):
It does remind me of like how I think a
lot of like live brained people greeted the rise of
Trump in like twenty sixteen, where they were like there's
no way that many people are into him because I
find him abhorrent, you know, and because I thought racism

(36:56):
was cured when we elected Obama, you know, so like
they couldn't to deal with the crowd size because they
just they were like, well, now he said something racist,
so certainly this will be the end of his campaign.
And it's like, no, no, the racism is the point,
and that's why there's so many people there because America racist.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
Did you see that video where he called Kamala He's
like in a golf cart and he called her a
fucking bitch.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
No, do we have a video now? I know that there,
it's been reported. So I want to talk about that
New York Times article because that is a banger from
Haberman and co. At the New York Times. They yeah,
it just talked about like what they call the worst

(37:44):
couple weeks, the worst few weeks of his campaign, and
one of the one of the details was that he
was but was heard calling her a bitch behind the scenes.
But I did not know that. We had him on
wax doing it.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
Yeah, my computer is frosen right now, so I can't
navigate to it. But there is there is a video
of him, and it's like clear that he didn't know
he was being recorded, because it was kind of like
at waste level and someone outside of a golf cart
is recording him, and he's in it and he's talking
about how great he did at the debate, and then
he calls Kamala a fucking bitch wow, very casually, and

(38:25):
it's just like sometimes, like, you know, he is a
bigot and a fascist and all of these things. But
then we kind of kind of remove him from like
that personhood of like that person that you see in
your daily life who that actually has these like really dismissive,

(38:47):
dehumanizing feelings, and then you see a clip of him
be so casually disgusting and you're just like, oh, yeah,
this is like a real person and this embodies like
real people that I have interacted with in my life,
and it gives you like a visceral reaction, right like
anger and fear and discussed with how this person actually

(39:12):
views women, how they actually view black and brown people
and immigrants at everything.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
You're just like, oh, yeah, yeah, there was just a
poll that said that people actually trust her more on
the economy than Trump. And I don't know the strength
of the policizes we can, but the way it was
agreed on the right was like, well, now we have
proof that they're lying. And weirdly, the poll said that

(39:41):
people trust Trump to make them richer, but trust Harris
to run the US economy better. And the New York
Post is like, well, well that doesn't make any sense
at all, and like not not making room for the
idea that people might recognize that just like tax breaks
are actually really bad for the economy overall, like if

(40:03):
there's no taxation and is just doing the worst thing
that everybody kind of secretly selfishly wants but doesn't actually
benefit like the overall running of the country. Yeah, I
don't know, or maybe the polls bullshit.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
I think the American people hold different contradictory opposing thoughts
at the same time, a lot like how I think
there was some pull on like how they like view
or treat the border, like they want the border security,
but simultaneously if you're like, hey, this immigrant came through

(40:44):
for this reason, They're like, oh, yeah, I want them here.
You know, Like the people have a hard time conceptualizing
how policy affects them in a very real and day
to day way, and so they can hold these opposing
thoughts where they think, like the economy is this like
big thing, but Trump's going to get me rich, you know.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
Right yeah yeah, and also they're incorrect about Trump getting
you rich but yeah the day, yeah, like he's the
rich money guy though, so he's going to make me rich.
But uh anyways, uh yeah, I want to get to
this New York Times article Haberman and co reporting on
the Worst couple Weeks. It opens with him at a

(41:24):
meeting with some of his wealthiest donors from this iteration
of the Business Plot twenty twenty four, you know, because
it is straight up like if he wins, like I know,
like we're tired of being like this is the most
important election, Like we're really fucked like he with what
we've seen from the Supreme Court, like he's never going

(41:47):
to like leave office unless he's dead. Like that's where really,
that's it. So but yeah, so we've got like guys
like Bill Ackman, Omid Malik, who names I didn't know
before this article, but I do feel like we should
name names because these people are fucking monsters. They're all
like his key benefactors. And so they open this meeting.

(42:11):
It's after Harris has joined and like kind of shot
up in the polls, and they're like, obviously this has
been going not great. How do we pivot? I'm assuming
they said pivot, because like business guys love to talk
about pivoting, and Trump's opener was, well, we got to
stop the steal, which like that's not even this election.

(42:35):
And then next he like bragged about how hard he
nailed the National Association of Black Journalists panel, and they
were like, what the fuck are you talking about? And
then like and sort of less vibe, more terrifying news
From this article, he also described the assassination attempts as

(42:58):
potentially the Democrats trying to kill him.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
When it was a Republican and also we've all forgotten
about that.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
It's crazy how quickly that just stopped being I remember
like in the immediate aftermath, we were like, well, this
changes everything. And then some people are like, or are
we going to forget about this? Because the news cycle
is so fucking crazy and just the turnover.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
Just the news cycle, it's him not being good at
messaging or branding or like using that as an opportunity
for his campaign to pivot from I'm a business guy,
to pivot from all the negative.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
Thank you saying pivot because I need that.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
He wasn't synchronicity ing with the Democrats after the assassination attempt,
so it's like, Okay, Trump's gonna trump, so we're just
going to react to that. Yeah, yeah, a lot of
what Democrats have been doing.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
So we're still waiting to see if he turns on JD.
Vance But uh, you know, during during his mar A
Lago Jazz sessh at the end of last week, he
said JD's doing a great job. But according to this article,
behind the scenes, when someone was like, they're calling us weird,
he was like, uh, they're saying that about JD, not me. Yeah,

(44:21):
fucking love. He's just so quick to throw people under
the bus. But yeah, just generally it feels like he's
in the position of wishing things were different. He wants
it to be one way, but it's the other way.
To quote Marlowe Stanfield, get in.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
Line, buddy. We're all we're all like that.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
I know, but he's like, really, he's usually not this transparently,
Like where where that the post where he like wrote
the fan fiction about Biden. He's like, Biden is so mad,
he must be and he's gonna like come back and
take the nomination back, and then he's gonna challenge me
to a debate, but the I'm gonna beat him up

(45:00):
in front of all everybody, and it's gonna be tough
and everyone's gonna love me. Like it just felt so
weird and desperate, along with the like claiming that her
crowds are photo shopped and they're not, and then like
the only rally that he's held is in Bozeman, Montana,

(45:23):
and he played my Heart Will go On at the
Montana rally.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
This was and then Celindion's people had to be like,
we did not give him approval for that, stop immediately,
and also why that saw.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
Why a Titanic song as your campaign is famously floundering,
like like.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
I'm gonna hold onto the door and I'm shoving JD
under the water.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
Yeah, and then he also like canceled ABC debate and
then reversed when people made fun of him for being scared.
He just feels scared and desperate and like he's like
just once wants everybody to look at him and wants
to change how this all is going. And I'm sure

(46:09):
you know right now the media is like at a
full one eighty from the stories they were writing about
a month ago. And there are plenty of Trump advisors
behind the scenes who are like, this is exactly what
we predicted the day she replaced Biden. It will last
through the DNC and then the energy will be over

(46:32):
and maybe they're right, Like the Kamala thing does feel
like there's a lot of energy right now, just based
on the fact that people are so happy that Biden
dropped out, you know, and like people like the idea
of her. But I don't know, what.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
What do you think it's gonna I think it's gonna
last because I think like white women in this country
have a lot of buying power. I think that's part
of the reason that like Taylor Swift is one of
the largest artists of our time, and I feel like
they have been really activated in a way where they

(47:09):
can advocate for women and women of color, like they
feel like they can take that on their mantle, you
know what I mean. And so and you know, Brian
is saying, oh, she's a cop though, but like she
white women love that women love a manager or a cop,
you know.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
I see every eighties movie with Bruce Willis or Mel Gibson.
White women love a cop.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
White women love a cop, and they love someone who's
gonna girl boss like she did when she shut down
the Gaza protesters in Michigan and was like I'm speaking now.
So they it's very it's very bought into by a
certain demographic that I think will have the energy to
carry it through the election.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
Yeah, well, we will see. She hasn't really been with
the media. So that's like the there's some Tim Wall's
stuff about his military record that the Republicans are anytime
a Democrat like has a military record, the Democrat, the
Republicans are going to attack the shit out of it,

(48:16):
Like John Kerry was like certified war hero, and they
somehow turned that into a liability. Tim Walls just served
in the military, and they're going hard after him. They
got somebody who had served with him to come out
and be like, he's totally fabricated everything. They Yeah, I
mean it's like I'm the Daily Beast, but I haven't

(48:38):
seen it pick up a ton of traction. But I
do think that is going to be happening until the
day after the election, Like they're going to be going
hard off that just because they always always do because
they feel like there's just something about democrats at their
core that like people don't trust on military stuff, so

(48:58):
they just like and you can always find the military
is so big, you can always find somebody who's going
to say somebody's like full of shit, or that they
were lying about their war record, and the military is
secretive enough that you can't like point to documents to
like backup shit.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
So I think they're also going to do that about anything, right, Like,
I think they're going to be like football's gay now,
you know, because he was a coach.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
Right.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
I think they're just gonna be like, we hate sports,
we hate Yeah, they're just going to be willing to
give up whatever for this cult.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
Yeah. The So, the other mainstream narrative that's kicking up
about Kamala Harris is not the Gaza stuff really. I
mean there there's some references to it, but it's not
the main story. But the thing that is kicking up
is that she has not been very like, she hasn't

(49:50):
had any interviews, she hasn't done at press conference, and
I don't know, it feels like she's going to have
to start doing something.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
But then on the rally, trail though, right.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
Yeah, they've been just doing appearances and ads that have
been I also feel like this is just the way
things are now. Like Trump does interviews with only people
who are going to glaze him, you know, like they're
just like he doesn't do like hard interviews except for

(50:25):
you know occasionally like that the panel. But she's like,
I feel like there's also you know, people are terrified
of a second Trump administration who are supporting her and
probably are just like or don't do interviews, like you know,

(50:45):
we don't want you to fuck up, so like don't
so just like staying your lane and like let's keep
building up the good vibes. And so she I think
she's like, yeah, we'll probably put together an interview at
some point, but by the end of the month. But yeah, she.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
Probably wants to have more control over it.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
Yeah, totally. And so like we are in a new era.
Like there's an AP article about it where they're like,
you know, the like Biden didn't do many press availabilities Obama.
Like I remember during Obama's administration, they like the media
was like it's crazy how little like access we get here.

(51:28):
And that's because we live in a new era, like
social media, like they the politicians stopped really needing the
mainstream media, Like they used to have to like trade
access for access for favorable coverage, and it was like
a whole like game. And now they're like nobody gives

(51:48):
a fuck what you think, Like you're not you're not
Obama pro.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
Creator albums and musicians out on his own. He doesn't
need to channel that through a sixty minutes interview.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
Yeah, so they don't have to like do favors of
granting the interview in exchange for like positive coverage anymore
because no media, mainstream media figures as powerful as they
used to be. But all that said, I don't think
I don't think Kamalak can like coast through November without
any like media availabilities. So but I think she'll she'll

(52:20):
be fine. She always seems like she's doing she she
seems like she's like really stepped up, like since Biden
fucked that debate so badly, Like she all of her
appearances have been like she's been really locked in. She's
been like giving remarkably straight answers, which has in the

(52:45):
past been a difficulty. I think she's I think been
really good in like media availabilities. She hasn't had many,
She hasn't had any since she took over. But I
think like some switches flipped and she's like ready for
all this shit. So I'm not that worried about it,
but we shall see.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
I would love I would love some answers on Gaza.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
Yeah, yeah, all I would say, assuming that's one of
the reasons that she hasn't given an interview. All right,
Paula v thank you so much for joining today. Where
can people find you? Follow you? See you all that
good stuff.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
At Paula Vigan alland p A L l A v
I g U n A l A N I co
produce a show at the Comedy Store called Facial Recognition Comedy.
Our next show is August twentieth. I won't be there,
but it's going to be a really great lineup, and
then we have a show after that in September on
September twentieth, So please come through and support brown people

(53:49):
who are not just running for president.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
There you go, all right? You can find me on
Twitter at Jack Underscore O Brian. That's going to do
it for us this Monday. We're back tomorrow with a
whole last episode of the show. Until then, be kind
to each other, be kind to yourselves, get the vaccine,
get your flu shots, don't do nothing about white supremacy,
and we will talk to you all tomorrow. Fight bye.

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