November 27, 2017 • 49 mins
In episode 35, Jack & Miles are joined by comedian Katia Kvinge to discuss the Koch brothers purchasing Time INC, a new study about underreported police shootings, a NY times profile on a white nationalist, Robert Mueller, the Royal family, & more.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season eight, episode one
of Dust Daily's Lightgeist or November seventeen. It's a Monday.
My name is Jack O'Brien, a K Jack Rabbit Slim's
and I'm joined by my co host, Mr Miles Gray.
It's your boy Gemini Crockett's here, coming live at you
from space fith ellmy reference because he did the pull
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picks in one anyway, top of the morning to everyone
that wasn't an Irish bro. The topest of the morning
is to all of you, and we're thrilled to be
joined in our third seat by our guest, a hilarious comedian,
uh actress and supervisor Katya Cvine. So well, my friend, ConA,
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Now you're I can't even say. I've had so many
people sit wrong that I even sake. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
What's that accent you're talking with I'm a little bit
of something and something else? So you are from your
from Scotland's right? Well, I grew up in Scotland, but
I'm half Norwegian, half American. That's what your name is, Katia.
Yeah Norwegian side you speak Norwegian? I do, yes? Language. Yeah,
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I should just enter like veining. Hello. Everybody thinking, is
that is that the Norwegian way of pronouncing? Yeah? None
of us Norwegian? Yeah, the bricks. I was like canninge
They yeah, okay, so see no, no, but it's wrong
right right right, So I'm saying that's not that Jack
is the only most stake is no? No, no, no,
no super unheard of no no? All right? Yeah you
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think I think you recovered from that, Katya. What is
something that you've searched for in the not too distant
past that is revealing about who you are as a
human being? Oh? Revealing? Its well, because just over this
Thanksgiving weekend I googled I looked at two thousand dresses
on a sauce. Yeah I too. Yeah, um, which that's
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not that's not like me because I've also never done
Black Friday, and I was like, oh, this makes a
lot of sense. Why not get my Christmas stuff now
for other people? As all um, um, you're only you're
only wearing four dresses, right, Yeah, so that's disappointing, yes, um.
And I also I was mainly googling dresses and just
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politicians and people that are being out at that. I'm like,
who is Carter person? Carter page. I don't know. Wasn't
there someone from oh Nick Carter? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We talked about that on last was that last Wednesday? Yeah?
It's a yeah. You know, Mengazi continues every day. People
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are swept up for their wrong doings. Yeah, and it
can't stop. What is something that you is overrated? Um?
I think nightclubs overrated a little bit because I like
to have a conversation. I love dancing, but I feel
that now. I don't know if what's wrong with me,
but I think nightclubs are so noisy, Like I don't
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enjoy it. It's just way too loud. It's too loud.
There's nowhere to sit, you know what I mean. I
used to I used to love clubs. I think when
you're younger, it's fine because you just need a place
to drink and like dance on that. But like as
you I think begin to value like human interaction, it's
not the place to do it. I love dancing, but Jack,
you looks so confused. Well, no, no, I'm just I
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think I always prefer bars because usually you can have
like a loud part of the bar where there is
loud music, but then there's also the part where you
can actually hear yourself think. But kind of weird if
you start dancing in the bar, right, that is true?
I mean I don't because I'm an amazing dancer. I
get I get up on that bar. They're like, oh,
that's a legendary bar dancer. Potatoes over that's right. Um,
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what's something you think is underrated? Oh? I put fart.
I I don't know if I should say my boyfriend,
we're quite fresh and new, and he farts more than
anyone I've ever been with, and I forgot how funny
they are and how I don't know. I feel like
I'm regressing into like a child and yet at the
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same time getting older and hating nightclubs. But it's perfectly time.
Ah yeah, perfectly time to fart. Yeah, I mean I
don't want to. I'm glad you say underrated because I
think people need to embrace farts again as a people.
And I was reminded that over my Thanksgiving my Grandma's like,
very polite and she doesn't like farting. My grandfather is
similar to your boyfriend. I've not met a man on
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earth who can fart as much as he does, as
audibly as he does. And we have this culture of
farting to make my grandmother set in my house and
so Thanksgiving was like a fart fest and my grandma
was just like, please stop. She's like being good nature
about it. But anyway, shot us your boyfriend for farting
so much. He's going to hate me for saying that. Well,
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no one knows his name. What's his name? Okay, that's fine,
just something just we won't put this in. Yeah, I tried,
I tried. All right, we're gonna get into format now.
We're trying to take a sample of the ideas that
are out there changing the world whether we're looking or not.
We talked about politics and the president and news, but
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we also talked about movies and supermarket tabloids. They'll still
get in front of millions of people every day because
people still need to buy milk and most of them
have eyes. Uh So, trying to take the temperature of
what's going on with the national shared consciousness. And we
like to start out by talking about some myths that
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our guest is kind of based on their background, knows
aren't true that most people believe to be true. That
was that was a very convoluted way of saying that,
But what what are some things that you think most
of our listeners might believe that that aren't true? Okay,
so my thing this is something that I also think
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is weird and that I know if someone was to
tell me, I'd be like, okay, weird. Like, um, so
my thing is kind of premonition dreams, um, and also
kind of wondering if they're part of more like collective
consciousness or if they're just a coincidence, because um, you
started off thinking premonition dreams are just bs. Yeah, because
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I remember seeing, um when it was the nine eleven
some guy being like, yeah, I dreamt it before it happened.
I was like okay. And then he started, I think,
taking pictures of himself with the paper bank, being like
I had this dream on this day and I and
I was just kind of like, I don't know, like
almost like people were just doing it to get attention.
And then um, so so in I hadn't had a
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dream that I could remember for ages and on December
I so I said to myself, I was like, why
haven't I had a dream that I can remember? And
I was like okay, well tonight I need to dream,
whatever it is that my brain is not letting me dream.
And then on January on sen I woke up to
a nightmare of the Grim Reaper looming over me, and
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I woke up gasping, and it was just like it
was kind of scary because I hadn't dreamt in ages,
and then suddenly I was having a dream of the
grim Reaper. So I looked it up and it was like, um,
either it's an omen of death or it's a sign
of new beginnings. And I was like, well, symbolically, it's
kind of like the grim Reapers sort of saying January
one like a new year. In a way, I'm so
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worried for you now that premonition dream. But then was like,
what are you about to tell us? Well? And then
the next day I wake up and well, was the
year of lows of celebrities dying. And I don't know
if that was linked to it, But then I started
having dreams of kind of things that happened. Then later
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in the news, like there was um, the MP Joe
Cox that got Um she's an MP in the UK
she got killed and member of parliament and um she
so so the night before I had a dream that
I was shot in my hip, my chest and my face.
And the next day yeah, great, thanks, thanks. And and
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then the next day I was with my friends and
they were like, um, oh, did you hear about the
MP that got shot. I was like, oh, no way,
I had a dream that I got shot. And then
later I found out that I think she'd been shot
or stabbed, but in those kind of places. Um, And
then the ridiculous thing is now like I also had
a dream that my boyfriend cheated on me, So I'm like,
when is this gonna happen? Yeah, it's weird. And I
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also like it could just be a coincidence or it
could just be collective consciousness, like it's all about I mean,
I would guess that you're crazy, are you? Or you're
working with some form of terrorist group? Yea, you know,
I don't know. I don't know. I'm just we're an
FBI agent. Now. I've talked before about how I have
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like a weird theory that the Wilco album Yankee Hotel
Fox Trot. And I think this is because I had
the misconception that it was recorded after nine eleven, because
it was released after nine eleven, because they had all
these like weird labeled disputes, but it turns out they
recorded in two thousand and then didn't release it until
two thousand two. But there's all this like nine eleven
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imagery and like just sort of themes about nine eleven,
uh that I've always assumed were intentionally there. And so
then I like somebody was able to come up with
the plan to carry out nine eleven. So it's not
impossible that somebody else would have in their unconscious part
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of their mind like come up with that plan themselves
and like think about it happening before it actually happened,
because um, you know, that's just the mind is a
pretty crazy and somewhat intuitive thing. So we'll go plan
nine eleven. Yeah, that's that's basically what I'm saying. Uh No,
but I I do think that, Yeah, I think it's
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totally possible. I don't think it. I don't think there's
anything magical about it other than that the mind is
maybe more powerful than we give it credit for, and
like especially the unconscious part of the mind, like the
parts that we oftentimes don't have access to in our
sort of waking life for or like you know, when
you think about a friend and then suddenly you'll get
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a text from them or something you haven't thought about.
Like maybe there's some sort of similarity in that sense
where it's like I don't know, it's more all connected
and where it is in Yeah, and there's you know,
I think there are many ways to sort of rationalize
all of that without being like, oh, I'm a cursed
precog who can see into the so like the thing
that happened I I always I've often talked about my sister,
who like really awesome person, one of my favorite people
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in the world, but she, for like a span in
high school for like three years, had this thing where
whenever she looked at the clock, it was either one
eleven or eleven, And like, I think it's just uh
and like I've noticed that I sometimes have like a
really insane ability to guess what time it is before
I look at the clock. Yeah, and I think that's
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like just you know, we have this sense of time
that's going in the back of our mind that we're
not constantly aware of, but that like you know, or
isn't there that thing like confirmation biased where it's like
she may have looked at the clocks other times but
not really thought about it. But then the minute she
looks at it and it's eleven eleven, she's like, oh,
I remember that because I've done that kind of thing.
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Like I'm sure I've probably had dreams that I don't
really remember. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Information is probably a combination
of all those sort of yeah. Alright, um oh, And
I did want to just mentioned that you were on
one of our more popular episodes of the Correct Podcast
where we talked about I think the subject was things
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Americans don't realize are weird about America, and I think
the two of the things that I found really interesting
that you talked about our uh that girls and guys
aren't friends in America, Like there's always some weird Well,
it's just that I would notice that guys that I
thought were friends of mine out here, Uh, then I'd
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be back in town and I like one of them.
I was like, oh I'm back, and he's like, I
have a girlfriend, and I was like, oh, sorry, were
we flirted? We're just friends. No. I was harboring feelings
for you that died in express and I was using
the guys of friendship to sort of stifle these feelings, right,
um and then um, and just like even my my
my American side of my family, like my cousins. I
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remember once when we were younger, my my sister and
we made friends with these two British guys in the
plane where like, oh, like we're staying here on this island,
like come and join us, and it's completely like platonic.
Like we weren't saying that it's platonic, but it was
just this platonic feeling. And then my American cousins were like,
what are you doing, like bringing these guys you don't
know that they're trying to get with you, and it
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just feels like I feel in the UK I have
more male friends, I'm certain or platonic, whereas here, um,
I'm realizing. Um, the the the guys I thought were
friends that they're just like to like what's up. And
when you mentioned that to me, you were the first
person I interviewed for that episode, I was like, man,
she's crazy. But then we interviewed the comedian Iko Tanaka,
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who's originally from Japan, and she said the exact same
thing as you, like almost like word for word. It
was like, wow, Okay, yeah, maybe maybe we have a problem.
I also didn't think you were crazy. Um. Yeah, so
that that's something that you guys both pointed out, and
I think you also both pointed out that our foods
are poison and we don't realize that. There's like a
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bunch of foods out here that are banned that they
don't sell in Europe. Um, I'm pretty sure Mountain jew
is one of them, and some mac and cheese craft
mac and Cheese band or at least back for this
article is Yeah, yeah, there's a there's a bunch of
things that I see out here in stores and I'm like, oh,
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we don't have that in the UK, and I'm like,
maybe I shouldn't have it, Yeah, right, right, right, Yeah.
These are all things that were staples of my diet
when I was a kid. So that's good. Well, the
only thing that was really surprising, like all of Tyson Chicken.
It's like the most popular chicken bread. Were eating bullshit, y'all.
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And I think there's way more corn syrup and things
out here. Everything is made with corn out here, right,
And the loopholes that our food manufacturers use, like the
fact that Kraft mac and Cheese is made with real cheese,
but Real Cheese is just the name of the company
that makes the fake cheese that they use. Uh. That
stuff seems weird to people who aren't from America and
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should seem weird dust now like capitalism. Yeah, we have
so much news to get to today, but this was
just too much fun to talk to you about myths.
So we're gonna take a quick break and then we're
gonna get into all of the news we have to
catch up on. We've been gone too long, you guys.
All right, we'll be right back and we're back, all right.
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So we had a bunch of stories we wanted to
hit on real quick. Um Time Inc. The company that
publishes Time magazine and lots of magazines, right, so, yeah,
they own Time, Sports, Illustrated, and People, amongst other things. Yeah,
those are big ones. So they were just sold to
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a Koke Brothers. We talked about the Koch Brothers last week. Uh.
Koke Brothers back to company that currently owns Better Homes
and Gardens uh and Family Circle. Uh so yeah, they're
they're called Meredith. So if you go to Better Homes
and Gardens and Family Circle, they're not like overtly like
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Jesus is judging you, but they definitely are you know, uh,
family value oriented, definitely focused on like the audiences of
the Midwest when we were looking were like, what the
fund is Family Circle, And I thought it was gonna
be a fun coloring book, but it was just it
seemed like it was very much like homemaker or sort
of stuff like these are like they can't miss gingerbread
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recipes of the season and how to inoculate your children
from like liberal left is propaganda. I think was an
insert that wasn't cover, but I feel like that was
probably a likely follow up story. Right. They're based in
Des Moines, Iowa, so it's not checking that would cover
things that but yeah, it's it's it's interesting because they
bought time Ink for three billion dollars in an all
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cash transaction, so they put three billion together real quick.
And yeah, the private equity arm of the Koch Brothers
they put down like sixty million. Uh. And what's interesting
to note though, is that they were really clear in
the announcement of the deal that Meredith said that the
Coke Brothers they will not have a seat on the
board of directors and they will have zero influence on
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their editorial or managerial operations end quote. But again, you
know that's what you say right before, you know, just
like Republican politicians have been like the Koch brothers do
not influence or even cos boyfriends by like I don't
fart all that. You caught me on a really weird day, right. Uh. So,
there's a new report from Harvard that says that we
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have been under accounting police killings in America. The Department
of Justice has been, um the Guardian was like kind
of keeping track of this and had sort of a
whole data set that was outside of the Center for
Disease Control and Prevention, which was tracking it for the government. Uh.
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They had misclassified fifty five point two percent of all
police killings. So that was just something I always had
in the back of my mind, Like I knew that
they weren't totally keeping great track of it, but that
they did have like some semblance of a report that
they were putting together. But well, yeah, and when you
look at sort of the areas where a lot of
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the misclassifications happened, it's all you know, disproportionately, like very
low income jurisdictions. And it's it's interesting because like the
way they categorize these things. To even report the deaths
is uh, Like if it's classified under a legal intervention,
then that would be like a direct police involved shooting.
Other times they would just say, oh, it was assault,
that was the cause of death or whatever. So it's
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very easy for them to you know, fudge the numbers
when in fact a lot of these were because of
legal intervention. Crazy in Norway, they don't even carry guns
on them and the police don't even have them. They
have them in their car, like the whole Andrew's Brave attack.
That was just like such a shock to them, so
they weren't even prepared. So there was one of the
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worst mass shootings ever in Norway, right uh, and that
was that like a camp for children or and I
think he did something in the parliament building as well.
He went on the same day that he carried out
the shooting. But did they change rules after that or
is it just the understanding is that well, this was
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like a one off psychopath who I honestly, I haven't
heard about any legislation changes. But I the other thing
as well, as prisons in Norway are so nice, like
he's literally on an island and I've seen like it's
just beautiful, like houses that they keep, they keep a
lot of prisoners, like on islands, and the only way
to get to it is through a little boat. And
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it's just the quality of life in Norway is so nice.
It's My ex boyfriend was Norwegian and he was like
always like this, like I grew up in the ghetto,
you know, it was really hard. And he took me
to where he lived. I was beautiful. People took Caro
in there. I was like, these are like pink and
blue and yellow houses. It's so beautiful here. I might
start doing Heroin Beautiful, taking hill the fun out here.
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Another happy piece of news. Uh, we're running out of
sailing here in America because of uh Puerto Rico and
Hurricane Maria. Yeah. And uh so I was talking with
my really good friend Britney, who's a nurse, and she
was telling me like, oh, I gotta used to talk
about this on the show because this is a real
problem with nurses. And I was like what. And apparently
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it's like zero point nine percent sailing solution, which is
like used to administer drugs or just for hydration. It's
like the most used item in a hospital for like
intravenous anything. Uh. They were projected to be running out
of their supply like very soon. And a lot has
to do with the fact that we completely rely on
pharmaceutical companies that are based in Puerto Rico to make
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these medications. Not just sailing. There's like other meds too
that are in short supply because of the hurricane. Um
and because there's no power there and they're having to
use generator power to make sailing, it's coming to the
US at a very very slow rate. Uh, and people
are having to like ration how they using sealin and
it's kind of affecting how some people are administering healthcare. Um.
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But there was an announcement from the FDA. It's basically
saying like, hey, look, we're doing everything we can. And
it also sounded like they were leaning on the like
power authority in Puerto Rico to prioritize energy getting back
to these manufacturing operations those to the people. I mean,
this is capitalism at work right. The only way to
get people to do something nice for a group of
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people is out of self interest. So yeah, now, now
Americans have self interest. So if I'm sure if you
live near these Saneline manufacturing plants in Puerto Rico, maybe
you'll get power quicker because they're trying to make sure
they're back on the grid. Yeah, so maybe on a
happier note, everybody's check out yesterday's sixty minutes. Uh. They
had a story about the Michelin starred chef Jose Andres,
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who uh basically went down to Puerto Rico. He's, you know,
one of the like fanciest chefs in the world. Yeah,
fanciest f in the world. No, but like his the
way he was like breaking new ground in like gastro
molecular molecular gastronomy, where like you use liquid nitrogen to
like create like all these weird uh sort of cutting
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edge like futuristic foods. But he has he went down
to Haiti after the earthquake there, and he's doing the
same thing in Puerto Rico, except on a larger scale,
basically feeding like the entire island of Puerto Rico. Just
he went down there and like found the ingredients that
he needed and just like, I don't know, it was interesting.
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There was like something about the urgency of like a
chef's mind, like that they have just like baked into them,
like a hard line to just like get resources and
like make things work in a certain amount of time,
and like scramble shipped together that just like really works.
And he's gone and like tried to deal with FEMA
and tell them what's needed, and it's just like incredibly
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frustrated by uh, you know, the amount of red tape.
The it's there. But it is a really inspiring story
of like what one person can do with their talents.
And this is damning evidence of how we're handling the
recovery operations there that private citizens are like, well, since
you guys can't get your ship together, I guess I
will go there and feed all these people. I mean
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it's really inspiring because you see how dedicated he is
to like he like just as like you're saying, as
a chef too, I'm sure he's also has this idea
of like people need food, people need to be fed,
like that is just a basic need. And he was yeah,
like he put together like a a team of people
just to like churn out food constantly. Also inspiring was
this New York Times article from over the weekend that
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showed us that nazis real people. Yeah, they are really
real people. I mean, look, yes, Nazis are people too, Like,
no one's debating that. But what is dangerous is when
you have a publication like The New York Times and
really like again, they are normalizing this kind of thinking
or this kind of like culture um where in it
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there's about this mainly about this guy named Tony Hoveter
or Hovador I don't know how to pronounce it. Uh,
And if it's convene, it's convinced. Yeah, he so like
you know, like it starts off, they're like, you know,
they're there. They were married this fall and they registered
at Target and on their list was a muffin pan
and a pineapple slicer who was also a white supremacist.
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But they also do a very good job and being like,
well we're white nationalists, were not white supremacists. And again
in the article, like that's an opportunity where you say,
that's just them trying to distance themselves, like hiding in
disguise because their actual Nazis and like, well, no, no no, no,
we're just white nationalists. We're not only supremacist. That's a different,
that's more evil thing, And I think that's another kind
of dangerous thing. In the article there are many moments
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where I think the person writing it could have began
to pick apart what they were saying or the logic
they were playing. Uh. And yeah, they got a lot
of flak for it. I mean, like one of the
wildest quotes in there was like this thing where he
was talking about how like Hitler was Hill where he
there's a quote he said he said that, well, Nazi
leader Henrik Hitler wanted to exterminate groups like slaves and homosexuals.
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Hitler was quote a lot more kind of chill on
those subjects. And then he goes, I think he was
a guy who really believed in his cause. He said
of Hitler, he really believed he was fighting for his
people and doing what he thought was right. Okay, first
of all, bro, like, you can't be saying Hitler was
kind of chills, right, But I think to someone I
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think with the danger is to someone who might be
like susceptible to this kind of talk or could be
brought into a movement like white supremacy and reading stuff
like having The New York Times be like, oh wow,
this guy says Hitler's chill or whatever, and not really
challenging that. There's a lot of potential for harm, and
I mean yeah, they they had a lot of uh
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clap back from like Buzzfeeds released an article immediately and
was like, you know, they didn't even look at the
underlying cause of this rise in white supremacy, which is
like a combination of the Internet and you know, the
political climate. But it wasn't like I wasn't explaining those things.
It was just trying to show how like normal, uh,
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this has become in certain parts of the world, but
it um the Columbia Journalism reviewed. Columbia has like the
best or second best journalism school in the country, and
uh they released a thing just saying uh quote. Judging
a piece by the reaction of its subject isn't always
the best barometer of the story success. But when an
avowed Nazi sympathizer is celebrating, as Buzzfeeds, Charlie Warzel, reports
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Hovester and others where after the Times article posted, it's
a sign you've missed the mark. I found that since this,
since Trump has been empowered because of all the stuff.
The KKK, my initials are unfortunately KKK, yeah my your
initially KKK, you have premnisition go on it's awful. Well, so,
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my my mom's last name is Kank, my as last
name is Kelly, and and they just when when they
went to name me, they're like, oh, we like the
name Katia, and then they just gave it. They didn't
realize they were just so naive. And then two years
later when my sister was born, they could have had
two years to realize their mistake, and they named my
sister Kamila, which could have been with a C. But
(27:19):
they're like, we like Kamila with a K because I
said they didn't not right, So both me and my sister. Yeah,
it's so bad because I want to get forms like
coming into America like please initial and I'm like, oh,
I'll just do post like okay, okay, I'm sure someone
at the border part looked to choose a sister's part
in a Dr. Seuss alphabet book where they do like
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every letter like two words, so they're like kangaroo and
kite k k K and I know all the words
to it. And I found myself saying that a lot
to my son, and it's weird. So so yeah, New
York Times, shame on you. I know you tried to
say look I mean, I get what they're trying to say.
They still respect the intelligence of their audience, but yeah,
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your audience. You're the biggest paper in the country, and
you're giving Nazis like clippings for their press kits to
be like yeah and see like they didn't totally tear
us down. You know, it's not good. It's not good.
Not a good look. Um the other and we're we're
not doing any big evergreen deep dive today because there's
so much catch up with. Uh So, the other big
(28:21):
thing that happened over the long weekend is that, uh well,
can you explain, Miles what happened with Flynn and the
Mueller investigation? Yeah. Yeah, so basically his legal team is
no longer sharing information with Trump's legal team, which you know,
suggests that basically a lot of people are wanting to
say that Flynn is basically ready to flip on Trump
(28:43):
because like this thing is sort of like they call
it a Joint Defense Agreement or joint Information Sharing Agreement,
and that's just like a way for like, if y'all
are all on the defense side of things, your lawyers
and kind of get together, like Okay, what do you know, Okay,
what do you know, and then they can begin strategizing
their defense based on what they know. It's just it's
a significan I can't when someone withdraws from an agreement
like that, because yeah, it's a pretty good indication that
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at that point you're cooperating with the prosecution or the
government in this case and whatever respect that means that
whether that means he's going to fight the case and
he has his own way of defending it, or he
has a deal that he wants to work on to
try and lessen his sentence, or maybe something for his son.
So I mean, again, if this isn't I think with
every little bit of news that we get, like a
(29:26):
revolving around the Mueller probe, a lot of people who
want Trump to not be resident anymore get real excited.
He's like, oh, shoot at the best, Yeah, he's about
to be Mr rat five thousand and and maybe you know,
sell people up the ladder because a lot of also
like legal pundits were saying that, you know, if Mueller
is offering a deal to Mike Flynn, it's only because
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he can get someone higher up than him. So that
only leaves like, you know, Jared Kushner, Don ju Big
Don who knows one of those people? So again take
it with grain of salt. We don't know. Yeah, So,
going completely against the grain of that story, our writer
from Canada, so typical Jam McNabb, posed the hypothetical question
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what if Mueller actually kind of sucks at his job? Um,
which is not something I had heard raised. But he
kind of built a disturbingly convincing case that that might be.
I mean, yeah, built the case at least made us
scratch our heads. Right, So, like Mueller, the thing you
always hear is that he was the head of the
FBI for a number of years in a row, I
(30:35):
think his full term, and then Obama like kept him
on for a couple of years because he was so
good at his job. And so you know that that
sounds like, oh man, this guy's got a shipped together.
He's probably gonna be like Mr Ace detective, like the
dark Knight of the modern world. Uh. And there are
a couple investigations in his background that he headed up
(30:56):
that have been totally like bungled. So there's a case
in the late seventies where he headed up an investigation
into the Hell's Angels, who were openly like selling drugs
and racketeering and uh, like just gang assaulting people. And
so he led a team for prosecutors to retry these guys,
(31:19):
eleven of them. Uh, And after four months the jury
was like, we're deadlocked, and the judge declared a mistrial
and Mueller was like, yeah, no further questions. I'm not
going to seek a retrial. Which and this was the
case that people thought should have been barely easy ish
to make. Um, but that was a long time ago. Uh,
(31:40):
let's me and his defense too. They were saying that, like,
at the time, these racketeering charges he came up with
were like sort of novel back then. It was it
was a sort of very different way of going after
these kind of groups. And then the other big case
that he was in charge of was figuring out what
the funk was going on in the aftermath of nine
eleven with the antrax attacks that killed five people, uh,
(32:03):
sent seventeen others to the hospital. Uh. The FBI was
in charge of finding out who it was, and there
were only a set group of people with access to
this like weapons grade, government grade anthrax. And they originally
accused a guy named Stephen Jay Hatfill, who was a
(32:23):
virologist at the Army's laboratories that Fort Dietrich in Maryland.
But that got out to the media and he ended
up suing the FBI for five point eight million dollars
because it wasn't him and uh like, the type of
anthrax that he had access to was not the type
of anthrax that was used in the attacks. And then
(32:43):
so the story that I had always heard is that
they then found the guy who definitely did it, this
guy Bruce E. Evans, who, when he learned from his
lawyer that he was about to be accused of murder
and connection with these anthrax attacks, committed suicide. And there
there are still reasons to think that he might have
(33:05):
been the guilty party. Namely, he found out from his
lawyer that he was being accused and rather than being like,
damn it, I'm innocent, killed himself. So that's crazy. But
on the other hand, there are a lot of sort
of second guessing going on about whether he was actually guilty.
They say that, you know, some of the evidence where
(33:28):
they're suggesting that the types of anthrax matched up might
just be a case of parallel evolution. Basically because anthrax
is like a living organism. Uh, they were able to
match the anthrax he had access to to the anthrax
and the envelopes, but they were saying, no, you could
easily have two batches of anthrax that just evolved in
(33:49):
similar directions essentially. Um, so we we don't really know.
There's just been accusations that Muller and the FBI didn't
rigorously enough explore that explanation. And then there was a
supposedly a FBI campaign to paint him as the guilty
(34:09):
party after he died, so to like really just making
an open and shut thing, um, which obviously would be
very convenient for them, like, oh, well, this guy can't
protect himself anymore. So it's just you know, this guy
bury him so to speak. It's tough to like hear that,
like he kind of funked up in the past. But again,
(34:30):
we don't know. These could be the kinds of mistakes
the superhero has to go through, kinds of failures that
are like, you know what, I'm not sucking up this time.
There's a time to get it right right, So well,
we shall see. It's just a thing that I had
totally blindsided me because I had only heard that he
was like this superhero FBI leader. Yeah, you're like, yeah,
I was hoping the article would be like he had
(34:51):
a dream about these serial killers and he found him
the next day, prevented a mass murder. But again, it's
like I didn't know how to to keep all Right,
we're gonna take a quick break and when we come back,
we're gonna talk about the royals, y'all. And we're back.
(35:19):
So big news over the weekend, the biggest news really, Yeah,
Prince Harry and the actress Megan Markle are engaged. We're
gonna have a royal wedding with an American princess. So
the last time we had a royal wedding, I was
sort of taken aback by how big a deal it
(35:40):
was just around the world, specifically in the UK. Um.
But like, another fact that I learned in the last
handful of years that I was surprised by is that
the royal family is like funded by British tax payers money.
Like there's the some of the most wealthy people in
the world, and like poor people are like paying taxes
(36:03):
to like help them keep up their palace. I'm sorry,
did you just hear about a monarchy? Yeah, it's just
shocking to me that that's still the case, right right, Yeah,
you think they'd move on and not collect you know, tidings,
titans from their subjects. And now we're about to have
this like multi many, many millions of dollars wedding that
(36:27):
stops the city of London in its tracks and basically
the entire UK and its tracks for like weeks right
as a UK UK or. I mean it's very mixed.
You definitely there are a lot of people that are
anti monarchy and and then a lot of people that
are obsessed. Um. I just saw the news this morning
(36:51):
and it was saying most Londoners are wondering if they'll
get holiday, and then the next news was like they're
not getting a holiday as far as I know, Yeah,
the wedding is not going to be like a national holiday.
Is that normal? Um? I think for redheaded young boy,
you don't get a holiday. Also, I have a personal
(37:13):
connection to Prince Harry were born on the exact same day, yes,
and my mom like when she was giving birth, the
nurse coming like Princess Diana just had her baby, and
my mom was a huge anglophile, so like she probably
was like it was like the greatest day of her life.
That's crazy that you remember that. It was wild. My
first memory was like I'm also born. Yes, this will
(37:36):
cloud myself perception for the rest of my life. Um,
I don't know the fact that they are so lifted
up by the culture. It actually, when I was thinking
about it today, reminded me of that short story The
Lottery where they like randomly choose a person from a
society to like stone to death and just like that
gets all their violence out. You know that short story.
(37:58):
Like so they have a lottery in the center of
town and like one person pulls the straw and then
they just get they stone them to death and it's
like a year later. Yeah, it's The Hungry Games is
heavily inspired by this. It's an old short story that
American kids used to have to read. I guess, um,
but it's the idea, yeah, just right exactly. It's like
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the the idea being that, like it's valuable to the
culture to have some some like blood letting, And I
just wonder if, like the Royals, if there's some function
that they performed that a culture needs. It's like the
reverse of that. It's like you lift them up and
they and like, you know, the poor people give part
(38:44):
of their money to let them, you know, have a
Royal dog watcher for each of the dogs that the
queen keeps in her palace. You know, she has loads
of like parties, like summer parties, tap parties. My mom
and my stepdad a few years ago were invited to
a couple because if you if you do something that's
(39:08):
notable um or um, if you're on some sort of
list I guess, then then you're invited UM. And my
stepdad was one of the people along with al Gore
that were that won the Nobel Prize. UM, so it
was him and a team of your dad won a
(39:29):
Nobel Prize, but he's him and a team of people
weren't on on the team that worked with al Gore. UM.
And then yeah, they were part of that. So I
think that was he works as a professor of mountain
studies and does lots of stuff for the environment. So
I think for a few years my mom and my
stepdad were invited to a bunch of them, and I
think there is that. And they also have Royal Ascot
(39:51):
which is like the races, so they do have UM
events throughout the year, which are sort of kept as like, yes,
the royals are mingling with the normal people. Um. Um,
I guess maybe I know Norway is obsessed with the
British royals, and like whenever I'm there, they always have
(40:11):
loads of papers. Um. The covers of papers are just
Will and Kate and and then their own monarchy. Um.
I don't know if the people are, but definitely I
see with the tabloids there's a there's a big obsession
with it, and the how early it starts for the
offspring is really reminiscent of like the Flashback Sequences and
(40:34):
the Truman Show, like where there everybody's just like watching
the first stay like so excited having spent time in America.
Do you do you think there's a like American equivalent,
like is our celebrity culture similarly like upholding? Definitely, I
remember um Jennifer Lawrence said, I think she was like
(40:58):
thinking that she felt like she had to pay taxes
is to Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie, And I definitely
think that there's, um the pedestal that we put mainly actors,
uh is kind of yeah right, well they also fit
like are like you know it's the archetype of kings
and queens. There's like a lot of stuff like from
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culture that like because like even look at almost every
week right when we do the Bloyds, some form of
royal family stories on there. And I don't know if
that's like a way to also like uh, augment our
own sense of history by being American like that it
maybe somehow goes further back than seventeen seventies six because
of like living under British rule and that's like remnants
(41:41):
of that that we still look that way, or if
it's like the Cinderella story of like precisely for Megan Markel,
like that's the kind of ship that people like dream
about it, like right, the regular person, now I'm part
of the royalty like a Disney story. It does feel
when the news in the UK recently when it's not
been about terrorism and then it's like, oh, let's see
what the royals are up to? Kind of um, it
(42:04):
changes to that quite quickly, right, Yeah, more like a
live action Disney movie. I feel like starting between people
who look at who very photogenic. Man, I gotta say
this this is a I don't know, is this is
this the best looking royal family ever. I don't know,
because because all the other ones pras were just painted
(42:25):
by people who knew that the person they were painting
could like have their head chopped off, so they're like, damn,
you're a good looking man and your arms are jacked, man,
Damn bro, what do you look at that calf definition?
But I mean, I guess the thing that Americans would
(42:46):
say is that we ours is at least a meritocracy.
You know, we choose our people based on, you know,
Angeline and Julian brad Pitt being the best looking people
in the world or something. But at the same time,
we do think that you know, this handals that we're
seeing in Hollywood these days are sort of putting a
lie to that, like that, you know, at least the
(43:07):
royal line of succession is like the rules of that
are clear and public, and we're learning that in America,
our royalty is bestowed by like sociopathic sexual predators and
like dark hotel suites who are just like, yeah, you,
I like you. Is there any chance that Megan Markel
could have any kind of come into power, Like if
(43:29):
you're not in the line of succession, if you marry
into it. Right, So the rules of succession go like this, so, uh,
next in line, Prince Charles, He's first in line. Uh.
Prince William is second in line, and then both of
Prince Williams's children, So Prince George, who was born in
two thousand thirteen is just the most adorable kid in
(43:51):
the world. Uh. And then their daughter, who is one
and a half, Princess Charlotte, is fourth in line, and
then Prince Harry is fifth. No, no, the unborn the
unborn child. Right. Wills and Kate are pregnant with a
with their third which is uh. That child will then
(44:11):
jump above Harry. So Harry's currently fifth, about to become sixth. Yeah, exactly.
Once the baby is born, he will be sixth, and
then any of his kids would enter the line of
succession after him. So uh. The Princess Megan Markle is
you know, on the one hand, sometimes so for instance,
(44:32):
Queen Elizabeth current Queen, current ruler. Uh, she is married
to a dude named Prince Philip, who you never hear
about because he's like it all flows through the blood
of this one family. Did you hear about him in
the UK? But not out here in America? You don't
hear about it. Uh So everything it's all about flowing
(44:53):
through the blood of this one family. So on the
other hand, so that's one extreme and that I don't
think a lot of Americans have like hear about Prince
Philip all that much, even though he's married to the Queen.
But on the other hand, Princess Diana was not like
considered an actual like heir to the throne, but she
was like the British Madonna. She was like the biggest
(45:16):
deal in the world. Um So, yeah, it can go
really either way. Um I guess with the line of succession,
the one thing would be her kids with Harry, assuming
they have kids, would be some distant version of being
in line for the throne, which would presumably be the
(45:40):
closest the line of succession has ever passed to people
of color. It was interesting, is like some of the
coverage though there are so some people they're they're like
shouting around like it's great that there's like a woman
of color who joined the royal family and things like that,
then other ones are a little more just shitty. Yeah.
(46:00):
The Daily Mail, uh in November of last year, had
a headline Harry's girl is in parentheses almost and then
straight out of Compton. Uh that's the Daily Mail, y'all. Yeah.
So even this Daily Mail piece kind of goes on
to even say some ship like if there's an issue
from her alleged union with Prince Harry, the Windsors will
(46:20):
thicken their watery thin blue blood and spencer pale skin
and ginger hair with some rich and exotic DNA. They
also uh. The writer who wrote this piece also described
Megan Markole's mother as a dreadlocked African American lady from
the wrong side of the tracks. So her mother, Doria Ratlin,
who they're talking about like being from the wrong side
(46:43):
of the tracks, is actually a psychotherapist and yoga instructor.
Her dad is uh an Emmy Award winning lighting director.
She actually grew up in Hollywood, went to like one
of the better most prestigious private schools in Los Angeles,
uh and graduated from Northwestern, which is one of the
(47:05):
better schools in America. Uh So, yeah, all of this
bullshit about her being from the wrong side of the
tracks as bonkers get these are like this one in
the Daily Veil. There are more gossipy sites. As much
as they want to argue that they're like, you know,
legitimate journalistic outlets. When I performed, I did stuff at
the Olympics, We welcomed the athletes, we had the Daily
(47:26):
Mail coverage, and that's when I saw firsthand how much
they made up. They said that we were speaking in tongues.
They said that the athletes looked at us like they
hated our performance, and I was like, they were loving
it and we were singing queen songs like it was
just completely made up, Like it wasn't Actually it was
fake news. Wow that that was the Daily Mail or
(47:49):
one that was the Daily Mail. Yeah, um, yeah, we're
gonna we're gonna stay on top of this because we're
getting our girl making. She's gonna get it. She she
will be on the throne. Yeah. But I just suddenly
became like so protective. Yeah, I think, don't do work
like that. This may eventually just become a royal watching podcast,
but for now, that's going to do it. For today's episode, Katia,
(48:10):
where can people find you? I'm on Instagram and Twitter
at Katia finger, k v I N g um and uh,
a couple of things on YouTube, but mainly mainly Instagram.
Awesome is that your main media. Yeah, prefer like pictures,
(48:31):
video miles Where can people follow you? You can follow
me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. You
can follow me at Jack Underscore O'Brien. You can follow
us the Daily Zeitgeist at the Daily ziegeis on Instagram.
We have a Facebook page that is The Daily Zeitgeist,
and you can call us on Twitter at just daily
(48:52):
zeks no the and you can also find us on
our website Daily Zeitgeist dot com where we post our
episodes and we post our foot nope boot where you
can find all the sources for all the stuff that
you thought we were making up on today's episode. Uh,
and that's gonna do it for this episode one of
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season eight. We will be back tomorrow with more podcasts
because it is Daily show Talk to you that
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season eight, episode one
of Dust Daily's Lightgeist or November seventeen. It's a Monday.
My name is Jack O'Brien, a K Jack Rabbit Slim's
and I'm joined by my co host, Mr Miles Gray.
It's your boy Gemini Crockett's here, coming live at you
from space fith ellmy reference because he did the pull
(00:22):
picks in one anyway, top of the morning to everyone
that wasn't an Irish bro. The topest of the morning
is to all of you, and we're thrilled to be
joined in our third seat by our guest, a hilarious comedian,
uh actress and supervisor Katya Cvine. So well, my friend, ConA,
(00:56):
Now you're I can't even say. I've had so many
people sit wrong that I even sake. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
What's that accent you're talking with I'm a little bit
of something and something else? So you are from your
from Scotland's right? Well, I grew up in Scotland, but
I'm half Norwegian, half American. That's what your name is, Katia.
Yeah Norwegian side you speak Norwegian? I do, yes? Language. Yeah,
(01:20):
I should just enter like veining. Hello. Everybody thinking, is
that is that the Norwegian way of pronouncing? Yeah? None
of us Norwegian? Yeah, the bricks. I was like canninge
They yeah, okay, so see no, no, but it's wrong
right right right, So I'm saying that's not that Jack
is the only most stake is no? No, no, no,
no super unheard of no no? All right? Yeah you
(01:43):
think I think you recovered from that, Katya. What is
something that you've searched for in the not too distant
past that is revealing about who you are as a
human being? Oh? Revealing? Its well, because just over this
Thanksgiving weekend I googled I looked at two thousand dresses
on a sauce. Yeah I too. Yeah, um, which that's
(02:09):
not that's not like me because I've also never done
Black Friday, and I was like, oh, this makes a
lot of sense. Why not get my Christmas stuff now
for other people? As all um, um, you're only you're
only wearing four dresses, right, Yeah, so that's disappointing, yes, um.
And I also I was mainly googling dresses and just
(02:33):
politicians and people that are being out at that. I'm like,
who is Carter person? Carter page. I don't know. Wasn't
there someone from oh Nick Carter? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We talked about that on last was that last Wednesday? Yeah?
It's a yeah. You know, Mengazi continues every day. People
(02:55):
are swept up for their wrong doings. Yeah, and it
can't stop. What is something that you is overrated? Um?
I think nightclubs overrated a little bit because I like
to have a conversation. I love dancing, but I feel
that now. I don't know if what's wrong with me,
but I think nightclubs are so noisy, Like I don't
(03:15):
enjoy it. It's just way too loud. It's too loud.
There's nowhere to sit, you know what I mean. I
used to I used to love clubs. I think when
you're younger, it's fine because you just need a place
to drink and like dance on that. But like as
you I think begin to value like human interaction, it's
not the place to do it. I love dancing, but Jack,
you looks so confused. Well, no, no, I'm just I
(03:36):
think I always prefer bars because usually you can have
like a loud part of the bar where there is
loud music, but then there's also the part where you
can actually hear yourself think. But kind of weird if
you start dancing in the bar, right, that is true?
I mean I don't because I'm an amazing dancer. I
get I get up on that bar. They're like, oh,
that's a legendary bar dancer. Potatoes over that's right. Um,
(04:00):
what's something you think is underrated? Oh? I put fart.
I I don't know if I should say my boyfriend,
we're quite fresh and new, and he farts more than
anyone I've ever been with, and I forgot how funny
they are and how I don't know. I feel like
I'm regressing into like a child and yet at the
(04:23):
same time getting older and hating nightclubs. But it's perfectly time.
Ah yeah, perfectly time to fart. Yeah, I mean I
don't want to. I'm glad you say underrated because I
think people need to embrace farts again as a people.
And I was reminded that over my Thanksgiving my Grandma's like,
very polite and she doesn't like farting. My grandfather is
similar to your boyfriend. I've not met a man on
(04:45):
earth who can fart as much as he does, as
audibly as he does. And we have this culture of
farting to make my grandmother set in my house and
so Thanksgiving was like a fart fest and my grandma
was just like, please stop. She's like being good nature
about it. But anyway, shot us your boyfriend for farting
so much. He's going to hate me for saying that. Well,
(05:05):
no one knows his name. What's his name? Okay, that's fine,
just something just we won't put this in. Yeah, I tried,
I tried. All right, we're gonna get into format now.
We're trying to take a sample of the ideas that
are out there changing the world whether we're looking or not.
We talked about politics and the president and news, but
(05:25):
we also talked about movies and supermarket tabloids. They'll still
get in front of millions of people every day because
people still need to buy milk and most of them
have eyes. Uh So, trying to take the temperature of
what's going on with the national shared consciousness. And we
like to start out by talking about some myths that
(05:48):
our guest is kind of based on their background, knows
aren't true that most people believe to be true. That
was that was a very convoluted way of saying that,
But what what are some things that you think most
of our listeners might believe that that aren't true? Okay,
so my thing this is something that I also think
(06:09):
is weird and that I know if someone was to
tell me, I'd be like, okay, weird. Like, um, so
my thing is kind of premonition dreams, um, and also
kind of wondering if they're part of more like collective
consciousness or if they're just a coincidence, because um, you
started off thinking premonition dreams are just bs. Yeah, because
(06:31):
I remember seeing, um when it was the nine eleven
some guy being like, yeah, I dreamt it before it happened.
I was like okay. And then he started, I think,
taking pictures of himself with the paper bank, being like
I had this dream on this day and I and
I was just kind of like, I don't know, like
almost like people were just doing it to get attention.
And then um, so so in I hadn't had a
(06:53):
dream that I could remember for ages and on December
I so I said to myself, I was like, why
haven't I had a dream that I can remember? And
I was like okay, well tonight I need to dream,
whatever it is that my brain is not letting me dream.
And then on January on sen I woke up to
a nightmare of the Grim Reaper looming over me, and
(07:16):
I woke up gasping, and it was just like it
was kind of scary because I hadn't dreamt in ages,
and then suddenly I was having a dream of the
grim Reaper. So I looked it up and it was like, um,
either it's an omen of death or it's a sign
of new beginnings. And I was like, well, symbolically, it's
kind of like the grim Reapers sort of saying January
one like a new year. In a way, I'm so
(07:37):
worried for you now that premonition dream. But then was like,
what are you about to tell us? Well? And then
the next day I wake up and well, was the
year of lows of celebrities dying. And I don't know
if that was linked to it, But then I started
having dreams of kind of things that happened. Then later
(07:58):
in the news, like there was um, the MP Joe
Cox that got Um she's an MP in the UK
she got killed and member of parliament and um she
so so the night before I had a dream that
I was shot in my hip, my chest and my face.
And the next day yeah, great, thanks, thanks. And and
(08:25):
then the next day I was with my friends and
they were like, um, oh, did you hear about the
MP that got shot. I was like, oh, no way,
I had a dream that I got shot. And then
later I found out that I think she'd been shot
or stabbed, but in those kind of places. Um, And
then the ridiculous thing is now like I also had
a dream that my boyfriend cheated on me, So I'm like,
when is this gonna happen? Yeah, it's weird. And I
(08:47):
also like it could just be a coincidence or it
could just be collective consciousness, like it's all about I mean,
I would guess that you're crazy, are you? Or you're
working with some form of terrorist group? Yea, you know,
I don't know. I don't know. I'm just we're an
FBI agent. Now. I've talked before about how I have
(09:08):
like a weird theory that the Wilco album Yankee Hotel
Fox Trot. And I think this is because I had
the misconception that it was recorded after nine eleven, because
it was released after nine eleven, because they had all
these like weird labeled disputes, but it turns out they
recorded in two thousand and then didn't release it until
two thousand two. But there's all this like nine eleven
(09:28):
imagery and like just sort of themes about nine eleven,
uh that I've always assumed were intentionally there. And so
then I like somebody was able to come up with
the plan to carry out nine eleven. So it's not
impossible that somebody else would have in their unconscious part
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of their mind like come up with that plan themselves
and like think about it happening before it actually happened,
because um, you know, that's just the mind is a
pretty crazy and somewhat intuitive thing. So we'll go plan
nine eleven. Yeah, that's that's basically what I'm saying. Uh No,
but I I do think that, Yeah, I think it's
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totally possible. I don't think it. I don't think there's
anything magical about it other than that the mind is
maybe more powerful than we give it credit for, and
like especially the unconscious part of the mind, like the
parts that we oftentimes don't have access to in our
sort of waking life for or like you know, when
you think about a friend and then suddenly you'll get
(10:30):
a text from them or something you haven't thought about.
Like maybe there's some sort of similarity in that sense
where it's like I don't know, it's more all connected
and where it is in Yeah, and there's you know,
I think there are many ways to sort of rationalize
all of that without being like, oh, I'm a cursed
precog who can see into the so like the thing
that happened I I always I've often talked about my sister,
who like really awesome person, one of my favorite people
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in the world, but she, for like a span in
high school for like three years, had this thing where
whenever she looked at the clock, it was either one
eleven or eleven, And like, I think it's just uh
and like I've noticed that I sometimes have like a
really insane ability to guess what time it is before
I look at the clock. Yeah, and I think that's
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like just you know, we have this sense of time
that's going in the back of our mind that we're
not constantly aware of, but that like you know, or
isn't there that thing like confirmation biased where it's like
she may have looked at the clocks other times but
not really thought about it. But then the minute she
looks at it and it's eleven eleven, she's like, oh,
I remember that because I've done that kind of thing.
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Like I'm sure I've probably had dreams that I don't
really remember. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Information is probably a combination
of all those sort of yeah. Alright, um oh, And
I did want to just mentioned that you were on
one of our more popular episodes of the Correct Podcast
where we talked about I think the subject was things
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Americans don't realize are weird about America, and I think
the two of the things that I found really interesting
that you talked about our uh that girls and guys
aren't friends in America, Like there's always some weird Well,
it's just that I would notice that guys that I
thought were friends of mine out here, Uh, then I'd
(12:16):
be back in town and I like one of them.
I was like, oh I'm back, and he's like, I
have a girlfriend, and I was like, oh, sorry, were
we flirted? We're just friends. No. I was harboring feelings
for you that died in express and I was using
the guys of friendship to sort of stifle these feelings, right,
um and then um, and just like even my my
my American side of my family, like my cousins. I
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remember once when we were younger, my my sister and
we made friends with these two British guys in the
plane where like, oh, like we're staying here on this island,
like come and join us, and it's completely like platonic.
Like we weren't saying that it's platonic, but it was
just this platonic feeling. And then my American cousins were like,
what are you doing, like bringing these guys you don't
know that they're trying to get with you, and it
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just feels like I feel in the UK I have
more male friends, I'm certain or platonic, whereas here, um,
I'm realizing. Um, the the the guys I thought were
friends that they're just like to like what's up. And
when you mentioned that to me, you were the first
person I interviewed for that episode, I was like, man,
she's crazy. But then we interviewed the comedian Iko Tanaka,
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who's originally from Japan, and she said the exact same
thing as you, like almost like word for word. It
was like, wow, Okay, yeah, maybe maybe we have a problem.
I also didn't think you were crazy. Um. Yeah, so
that that's something that you guys both pointed out, and
I think you also both pointed out that our foods
are poison and we don't realize that. There's like a
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bunch of foods out here that are banned that they
don't sell in Europe. Um, I'm pretty sure Mountain jew
is one of them, and some mac and cheese craft
mac and Cheese band or at least back for this
article is Yeah, yeah, there's a there's a bunch of
things that I see out here in stores and I'm like, oh,
(14:07):
we don't have that in the UK, and I'm like,
maybe I shouldn't have it, Yeah, right, right, right, Yeah.
These are all things that were staples of my diet
when I was a kid. So that's good. Well, the
only thing that was really surprising, like all of Tyson Chicken.
It's like the most popular chicken bread. Were eating bullshit, y'all.
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And I think there's way more corn syrup and things
out here. Everything is made with corn out here, right,
And the loopholes that our food manufacturers use, like the
fact that Kraft mac and Cheese is made with real cheese,
but Real Cheese is just the name of the company
that makes the fake cheese that they use. Uh. That
stuff seems weird to people who aren't from America and
(14:50):
should seem weird dust now like capitalism. Yeah, we have
so much news to get to today, but this was
just too much fun to talk to you about myths.
So we're gonna take a quick break and then we're
gonna get into all of the news we have to
catch up on. We've been gone too long, you guys.
All right, we'll be right back and we're back, all right.
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So we had a bunch of stories we wanted to
hit on real quick. Um Time Inc. The company that
publishes Time magazine and lots of magazines, right, so, yeah,
they own Time, Sports, Illustrated, and People, amongst other things. Yeah,
those are big ones. So they were just sold to
(15:40):
a Koke Brothers. We talked about the Koch Brothers last week. Uh.
Koke Brothers back to company that currently owns Better Homes
and Gardens uh and Family Circle. Uh so yeah, they're
they're called Meredith. So if you go to Better Homes
and Gardens and Family Circle, they're not like overtly like
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Jesus is judging you, but they definitely are you know, uh,
family value oriented, definitely focused on like the audiences of
the Midwest when we were looking were like, what the
fund is Family Circle, And I thought it was gonna
be a fun coloring book, but it was just it
seemed like it was very much like homemaker or sort
of stuff like these are like they can't miss gingerbread
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recipes of the season and how to inoculate your children
from like liberal left is propaganda. I think was an
insert that wasn't cover, but I feel like that was
probably a likely follow up story. Right. They're based in
Des Moines, Iowa, so it's not checking that would cover
things that but yeah, it's it's it's interesting because they
bought time Ink for three billion dollars in an all
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cash transaction, so they put three billion together real quick.
And yeah, the private equity arm of the Koch Brothers
they put down like sixty million. Uh. And what's interesting
to note though, is that they were really clear in
the announcement of the deal that Meredith said that the
Coke Brothers they will not have a seat on the
board of directors and they will have zero influence on
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their editorial or managerial operations end quote. But again, you
know that's what you say right before, you know, just
like Republican politicians have been like the Koch brothers do
not influence or even cos boyfriends by like I don't
fart all that. You caught me on a really weird day, right. Uh. So,
there's a new report from Harvard that says that we
(17:28):
have been under accounting police killings in America. The Department
of Justice has been, um the Guardian was like kind
of keeping track of this and had sort of a
whole data set that was outside of the Center for
Disease Control and Prevention, which was tracking it for the government. Uh.
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They had misclassified fifty five point two percent of all
police killings. So that was just something I always had
in the back of my mind, Like I knew that
they weren't totally keeping great track of it, but that
they did have like some semblance of a report that
they were putting together. But well, yeah, and when you
look at sort of the areas where a lot of
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the misclassifications happened, it's all you know, disproportionately, like very
low income jurisdictions. And it's it's interesting because like the
way they categorize these things. To even report the deaths
is uh, Like if it's classified under a legal intervention,
then that would be like a direct police involved shooting.
Other times they would just say, oh, it was assault,
that was the cause of death or whatever. So it's
(18:33):
very easy for them to you know, fudge the numbers
when in fact a lot of these were because of
legal intervention. Crazy in Norway, they don't even carry guns
on them and the police don't even have them. They
have them in their car, like the whole Andrew's Brave attack.
That was just like such a shock to them, so
they weren't even prepared. So there was one of the
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worst mass shootings ever in Norway, right uh, and that
was that like a camp for children or and I
think he did something in the parliament building as well.
He went on the same day that he carried out
the shooting. But did they change rules after that or
is it just the understanding is that well, this was
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like a one off psychopath who I honestly, I haven't
heard about any legislation changes. But I the other thing
as well, as prisons in Norway are so nice, like
he's literally on an island and I've seen like it's
just beautiful, like houses that they keep, they keep a
lot of prisoners, like on islands, and the only way
to get to it is through a little boat. And
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it's just the quality of life in Norway is so nice.
It's My ex boyfriend was Norwegian and he was like
always like this, like I grew up in the ghetto,
you know, it was really hard. And he took me
to where he lived. I was beautiful. People took Caro
in there. I was like, these are like pink and
blue and yellow houses. It's so beautiful here. I might
start doing Heroin Beautiful, taking hill the fun out here.
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Another happy piece of news. Uh, we're running out of
sailing here in America because of uh Puerto Rico and
Hurricane Maria. Yeah. And uh so I was talking with
my really good friend Britney, who's a nurse, and she
was telling me like, oh, I gotta used to talk
about this on the show because this is a real
problem with nurses. And I was like what. And apparently
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it's like zero point nine percent sailing solution, which is
like used to administer drugs or just for hydration. It's
like the most used item in a hospital for like
intravenous anything. Uh. They were projected to be running out
of their supply like very soon. And a lot has
to do with the fact that we completely rely on
pharmaceutical companies that are based in Puerto Rico to make
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these medications. Not just sailing. There's like other meds too
that are in short supply because of the hurricane. Um
and because there's no power there and they're having to
use generator power to make sailing, it's coming to the
US at a very very slow rate. Uh, and people
are having to like ration how they using sealin and
it's kind of affecting how some people are administering healthcare. Um.
(21:04):
But there was an announcement from the FDA. It's basically
saying like, hey, look, we're doing everything we can. And
it also sounded like they were leaning on the like
power authority in Puerto Rico to prioritize energy getting back
to these manufacturing operations those to the people. I mean,
this is capitalism at work right. The only way to
get people to do something nice for a group of
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people is out of self interest. So yeah, now, now
Americans have self interest. So if I'm sure if you
live near these Saneline manufacturing plants in Puerto Rico, maybe
you'll get power quicker because they're trying to make sure
they're back on the grid. Yeah, so maybe on a
happier note, everybody's check out yesterday's sixty minutes. Uh. They
had a story about the Michelin starred chef Jose Andres,
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who uh basically went down to Puerto Rico. He's, you know,
one of the like fanciest chefs in the world. Yeah,
fanciest f in the world. No, but like his the
way he was like breaking new ground in like gastro
molecular molecular gastronomy, where like you use liquid nitrogen to
like create like all these weird uh sort of cutting
(22:12):
edge like futuristic foods. But he has he went down
to Haiti after the earthquake there, and he's doing the
same thing in Puerto Rico, except on a larger scale,
basically feeding like the entire island of Puerto Rico. Just
he went down there and like found the ingredients that
he needed and just like, I don't know, it was interesting.
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There was like something about the urgency of like a
chef's mind, like that they have just like baked into them,
like a hard line to just like get resources and
like make things work in a certain amount of time,
and like scramble shipped together that just like really works.
And he's gone and like tried to deal with FEMA
and tell them what's needed, and it's just like incredibly
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frustrated by uh, you know, the amount of red tape.
The it's there. But it is a really inspiring story
of like what one person can do with their talents.
And this is damning evidence of how we're handling the
recovery operations there that private citizens are like, well, since
you guys can't get your ship together, I guess I
will go there and feed all these people. I mean
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it's really inspiring because you see how dedicated he is
to like he like just as like you're saying, as
a chef too, I'm sure he's also has this idea
of like people need food, people need to be fed,
like that is just a basic need. And he was yeah,
like he put together like a a team of people
just to like churn out food constantly. Also inspiring was
this New York Times article from over the weekend that
(23:39):
showed us that nazis real people. Yeah, they are really
real people. I mean, look, yes, Nazis are people too, Like,
no one's debating that. But what is dangerous is when
you have a publication like The New York Times and
really like again, they are normalizing this kind of thinking
or this kind of like culture um where in it
(24:01):
there's about this mainly about this guy named Tony Hoveter
or Hovador I don't know how to pronounce it. Uh,
And if it's convene, it's convinced. Yeah, he so like
you know, like it starts off, they're like, you know,
they're there. They were married this fall and they registered
at Target and on their list was a muffin pan
and a pineapple slicer who was also a white supremacist.
(24:23):
But they also do a very good job and being like,
well we're white nationalists, were not white supremacists. And again
in the article, like that's an opportunity where you say,
that's just them trying to distance themselves, like hiding in
disguise because their actual Nazis and like, well, no, no no, no,
we're just white nationalists. We're not only supremacist. That's a different,
that's more evil thing, And I think that's another kind
of dangerous thing. In the article there are many moments
(24:43):
where I think the person writing it could have began
to pick apart what they were saying or the logic
they were playing. Uh. And yeah, they got a lot
of flak for it. I mean, like one of the
wildest quotes in there was like this thing where he
was talking about how like Hitler was Hill where he
there's a quote he said he said that, well, Nazi
leader Henrik Hitler wanted to exterminate groups like slaves and homosexuals.
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Hitler was quote a lot more kind of chill on
those subjects. And then he goes, I think he was
a guy who really believed in his cause. He said
of Hitler, he really believed he was fighting for his
people and doing what he thought was right. Okay, first
of all, bro, like, you can't be saying Hitler was
kind of chills, right, But I think to someone I
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think with the danger is to someone who might be
like susceptible to this kind of talk or could be
brought into a movement like white supremacy and reading stuff
like having The New York Times be like, oh wow,
this guy says Hitler's chill or whatever, and not really
challenging that. There's a lot of potential for harm, and
I mean yeah, they they had a lot of uh
(25:48):
clap back from like Buzzfeeds released an article immediately and
was like, you know, they didn't even look at the
underlying cause of this rise in white supremacy, which is
like a combination of the Internet and you know, the
political climate. But it wasn't like I wasn't explaining those things.
It was just trying to show how like normal, uh,
(26:09):
this has become in certain parts of the world, but
it um the Columbia Journalism reviewed. Columbia has like the
best or second best journalism school in the country, and
uh they released a thing just saying uh quote. Judging
a piece by the reaction of its subject isn't always
the best barometer of the story success. But when an
avowed Nazi sympathizer is celebrating, as Buzzfeeds, Charlie Warzel, reports
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Hovester and others where after the Times article posted, it's
a sign you've missed the mark. I found that since this,
since Trump has been empowered because of all the stuff.
The KKK, my initials are unfortunately KKK, yeah my your
initially KKK, you have premnisition go on it's awful. Well, so,
(26:57):
my my mom's last name is Kank, my as last
name is Kelly, and and they just when when they
went to name me, they're like, oh, we like the
name Katia, and then they just gave it. They didn't
realize they were just so naive. And then two years
later when my sister was born, they could have had
two years to realize their mistake, and they named my
sister Kamila, which could have been with a C. But
(27:19):
they're like, we like Kamila with a K because I
said they didn't not right, So both me and my sister. Yeah,
it's so bad because I want to get forms like
coming into America like please initial and I'm like, oh,
I'll just do post like okay, okay, I'm sure someone
at the border part looked to choose a sister's part
in a Dr. Seuss alphabet book where they do like
(27:40):
every letter like two words, so they're like kangaroo and
kite k k K and I know all the words
to it. And I found myself saying that a lot
to my son, and it's weird. So so yeah, New
York Times, shame on you. I know you tried to
say look I mean, I get what they're trying to say.
They still respect the intelligence of their audience, but yeah,
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your audience. You're the biggest paper in the country, and
you're giving Nazis like clippings for their press kits to
be like yeah and see like they didn't totally tear
us down. You know, it's not good. It's not good.
Not a good look. Um the other and we're we're
not doing any big evergreen deep dive today because there's
so much catch up with. Uh So, the other big
(28:21):
thing that happened over the long weekend is that, uh well,
can you explain, Miles what happened with Flynn and the
Mueller investigation? Yeah. Yeah, so basically his legal team is
no longer sharing information with Trump's legal team, which you know,
suggests that basically a lot of people are wanting to
say that Flynn is basically ready to flip on Trump
(28:43):
because like this thing is sort of like they call
it a Joint Defense Agreement or joint Information Sharing Agreement,
and that's just like a way for like, if y'all
are all on the defense side of things, your lawyers
and kind of get together, like Okay, what do you know, Okay,
what do you know, and then they can begin strategizing
their defense based on what they know. It's just it's
a significan I can't when someone withdraws from an agreement
like that, because yeah, it's a pretty good indication that
(29:06):
at that point you're cooperating with the prosecution or the
government in this case and whatever respect that means that
whether that means he's going to fight the case and
he has his own way of defending it, or he
has a deal that he wants to work on to
try and lessen his sentence, or maybe something for his son.
So I mean, again, if this isn't I think with
every little bit of news that we get, like a
(29:26):
revolving around the Mueller probe, a lot of people who
want Trump to not be resident anymore get real excited.
He's like, oh, shoot at the best, Yeah, he's about
to be Mr rat five thousand and and maybe you know,
sell people up the ladder because a lot of also
like legal pundits were saying that, you know, if Mueller
is offering a deal to Mike Flynn, it's only because
(29:49):
he can get someone higher up than him. So that
only leaves like, you know, Jared Kushner, Don ju Big
Don who knows one of those people? So again take
it with grain of salt. We don't know. Yeah, So,
going completely against the grain of that story, our writer
from Canada, so typical Jam McNabb, posed the hypothetical question
(30:12):
what if Mueller actually kind of sucks at his job? Um,
which is not something I had heard raised. But he
kind of built a disturbingly convincing case that that might be.
I mean, yeah, built the case at least made us
scratch our heads. Right, So, like Mueller, the thing you
always hear is that he was the head of the
FBI for a number of years in a row, I
(30:35):
think his full term, and then Obama like kept him
on for a couple of years because he was so
good at his job. And so you know that that
sounds like, oh man, this guy's got a shipped together.
He's probably gonna be like Mr Ace detective, like the
dark Knight of the modern world. Uh. And there are
a couple investigations in his background that he headed up
(30:56):
that have been totally like bungled. So there's a case
in the late seventies where he headed up an investigation
into the Hell's Angels, who were openly like selling drugs
and racketeering and uh, like just gang assaulting people. And
so he led a team for prosecutors to retry these guys,
(31:19):
eleven of them. Uh, And after four months the jury
was like, we're deadlocked, and the judge declared a mistrial
and Mueller was like, yeah, no further questions. I'm not
going to seek a retrial. Which and this was the
case that people thought should have been barely easy ish
to make. Um, but that was a long time ago. Uh,
(31:40):
let's me and his defense too. They were saying that, like,
at the time, these racketeering charges he came up with
were like sort of novel back then. It was it
was a sort of very different way of going after
these kind of groups. And then the other big case
that he was in charge of was figuring out what
the funk was going on in the aftermath of nine
eleven with the antrax attacks that killed five people, uh,
(32:03):
sent seventeen others to the hospital. Uh. The FBI was
in charge of finding out who it was, and there
were only a set group of people with access to
this like weapons grade, government grade anthrax. And they originally
accused a guy named Stephen Jay Hatfill, who was a
(32:23):
virologist at the Army's laboratories that Fort Dietrich in Maryland.
But that got out to the media and he ended
up suing the FBI for five point eight million dollars
because it wasn't him and uh like, the type of
anthrax that he had access to was not the type
of anthrax that was used in the attacks. And then
(32:43):
so the story that I had always heard is that
they then found the guy who definitely did it, this
guy Bruce E. Evans, who, when he learned from his
lawyer that he was about to be accused of murder
and connection with these anthrax attacks, committed suicide. And there
there are still reasons to think that he might have
(33:05):
been the guilty party. Namely, he found out from his
lawyer that he was being accused and rather than being like,
damn it, I'm innocent, killed himself. So that's crazy. But
on the other hand, there are a lot of sort
of second guessing going on about whether he was actually guilty.
They say that, you know, some of the evidence where
(33:28):
they're suggesting that the types of anthrax matched up might
just be a case of parallel evolution. Basically because anthrax
is like a living organism. Uh, they were able to
match the anthrax he had access to to the anthrax
and the envelopes, but they were saying, no, you could
easily have two batches of anthrax that just evolved in
(33:49):
similar directions essentially. Um, so we we don't really know.
There's just been accusations that Muller and the FBI didn't
rigorously enough explore that explanation. And then there was a
supposedly a FBI campaign to paint him as the guilty
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party after he died, so to like really just making
an open and shut thing, um, which obviously would be
very convenient for them, like, oh, well, this guy can't
protect himself anymore. So it's just you know, this guy
bury him so to speak. It's tough to like hear that,
like he kind of funked up in the past. But again,
(34:30):
we don't know. These could be the kinds of mistakes
the superhero has to go through, kinds of failures that
are like, you know what, I'm not sucking up this time.
There's a time to get it right right, So well,
we shall see. It's just a thing that I had
totally blindsided me because I had only heard that he
was like this superhero FBI leader. Yeah, you're like, yeah,
I was hoping the article would be like he had
(34:51):
a dream about these serial killers and he found him
the next day, prevented a mass murder. But again, it's
like I didn't know how to to keep all Right,
we're gonna take a quick break and when we come back,
we're gonna talk about the royals, y'all. And we're back.
(35:19):
So big news over the weekend, the biggest news really, Yeah,
Prince Harry and the actress Megan Markle are engaged. We're
gonna have a royal wedding with an American princess. So
the last time we had a royal wedding, I was
sort of taken aback by how big a deal it
(35:40):
was just around the world, specifically in the UK. Um.
But like, another fact that I learned in the last
handful of years that I was surprised by is that
the royal family is like funded by British tax payers money.
Like there's the some of the most wealthy people in
the world, and like poor people are like paying taxes
(36:03):
to like help them keep up their palace. I'm sorry,
did you just hear about a monarchy? Yeah, it's just
shocking to me that that's still the case, right right, Yeah,
you think they'd move on and not collect you know, tidings,
titans from their subjects. And now we're about to have
this like multi many, many millions of dollars wedding that
(36:27):
stops the city of London in its tracks and basically
the entire UK and its tracks for like weeks right
as a UK UK or. I mean it's very mixed.
You definitely there are a lot of people that are
anti monarchy and and then a lot of people that
are obsessed. Um. I just saw the news this morning
(36:51):
and it was saying most Londoners are wondering if they'll
get holiday, and then the next news was like they're
not getting a holiday as far as I know, Yeah,
the wedding is not going to be like a national holiday.
Is that normal? Um? I think for redheaded young boy,
you don't get a holiday. Also, I have a personal
(37:13):
connection to Prince Harry were born on the exact same day, yes,
and my mom like when she was giving birth, the
nurse coming like Princess Diana just had her baby, and
my mom was a huge anglophile, so like she probably
was like it was like the greatest day of her life.
That's crazy that you remember that. It was wild. My
first memory was like I'm also born. Yes, this will
(37:36):
cloud myself perception for the rest of my life. Um,
I don't know the fact that they are so lifted
up by the culture. It actually, when I was thinking
about it today, reminded me of that short story The
Lottery where they like randomly choose a person from a
society to like stone to death and just like that
gets all their violence out. You know that short story.
(37:58):
Like so they have a lottery in the center of
town and like one person pulls the straw and then
they just get they stone them to death and it's
like a year later. Yeah, it's The Hungry Games is
heavily inspired by this. It's an old short story that
American kids used to have to read. I guess, um,
but it's the idea, yeah, just right exactly. It's like
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the the idea being that, like it's valuable to the
culture to have some some like blood letting, And I
just wonder if, like the Royals, if there's some function
that they performed that a culture needs. It's like the
reverse of that. It's like you lift them up and
they and like, you know, the poor people give part
(38:44):
of their money to let them, you know, have a
Royal dog watcher for each of the dogs that the
queen keeps in her palace. You know, she has loads
of like parties, like summer parties, tap parties. My mom
and my stepdad a few years ago were invited to
a couple because if you if you do something that's
(39:08):
notable um or um, if you're on some sort of
list I guess, then then you're invited UM. And my
stepdad was one of the people along with al Gore
that were that won the Nobel Prize. UM, so it
was him and a team of your dad won a
(39:29):
Nobel Prize, but he's him and a team of people
weren't on on the team that worked with al Gore. UM.
And then yeah, they were part of that. So I
think that was he works as a professor of mountain
studies and does lots of stuff for the environment. So
I think for a few years my mom and my
stepdad were invited to a bunch of them, and I
think there is that. And they also have Royal Ascot
(39:51):
which is like the races, so they do have UM
events throughout the year, which are sort of kept as like, yes,
the royals are mingling with the normal people. Um. Um,
I guess maybe I know Norway is obsessed with the
British royals, and like whenever I'm there, they always have
(40:11):
loads of papers. Um. The covers of papers are just
Will and Kate and and then their own monarchy. Um.
I don't know if the people are, but definitely I
see with the tabloids there's a there's a big obsession
with it, and the how early it starts for the
offspring is really reminiscent of like the Flashback Sequences and
(40:34):
the Truman Show, like where there everybody's just like watching
the first stay like so excited having spent time in America.
Do you do you think there's a like American equivalent,
like is our celebrity culture similarly like upholding? Definitely, I
remember um Jennifer Lawrence said, I think she was like
(40:58):
thinking that she felt like she had to pay taxes
is to Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie, And I definitely
think that there's, um the pedestal that we put mainly actors,
uh is kind of yeah right, well they also fit
like are like you know it's the archetype of kings
and queens. There's like a lot of stuff like from
(41:19):
culture that like because like even look at almost every
week right when we do the Bloyds, some form of
royal family stories on there. And I don't know if
that's like a way to also like uh, augment our
own sense of history by being American like that it
maybe somehow goes further back than seventeen seventies six because
of like living under British rule and that's like remnants
(41:41):
of that that we still look that way, or if
it's like the Cinderella story of like precisely for Megan Markel,
like that's the kind of ship that people like dream
about it, like right, the regular person, now I'm part
of the royalty like a Disney story. It does feel
when the news in the UK recently when it's not
been about terrorism and then it's like, oh, let's see
what the royals are up to? Kind of um, it
(42:04):
changes to that quite quickly, right, Yeah, more like a
live action Disney movie. I feel like starting between people
who look at who very photogenic. Man, I gotta say
this this is a I don't know, is this is
this the best looking royal family ever. I don't know,
because because all the other ones pras were just painted
(42:25):
by people who knew that the person they were painting
could like have their head chopped off, so they're like, damn,
you're a good looking man and your arms are jacked, man,
Damn bro, what do you look at that calf definition?
But I mean, I guess the thing that Americans would
(42:46):
say is that we ours is at least a meritocracy.
You know, we choose our people based on, you know,
Angeline and Julian brad Pitt being the best looking people
in the world or something. But at the same time,
we do think that you know, this handals that we're
seeing in Hollywood these days are sort of putting a
lie to that, like that, you know, at least the
(43:07):
royal line of succession is like the rules of that
are clear and public, and we're learning that in America,
our royalty is bestowed by like sociopathic sexual predators and
like dark hotel suites who are just like, yeah, you,
I like you. Is there any chance that Megan Markel
could have any kind of come into power, Like if
(43:29):
you're not in the line of succession, if you marry
into it. Right, So the rules of succession go like this, so, uh,
next in line, Prince Charles, He's first in line. Uh.
Prince William is second in line, and then both of
Prince Williams's children, So Prince George, who was born in
two thousand thirteen is just the most adorable kid in
(43:51):
the world. Uh. And then their daughter, who is one
and a half, Princess Charlotte, is fourth in line, and
then Prince Harry is fifth. No, no, the unborn the
unborn child. Right. Wills and Kate are pregnant with a
with their third which is uh. That child will then
(44:11):
jump above Harry. So Harry's currently fifth, about to become sixth. Yeah, exactly.
Once the baby is born, he will be sixth, and
then any of his kids would enter the line of
succession after him. So uh. The Princess Megan Markle is
you know, on the one hand, sometimes so for instance,
(44:32):
Queen Elizabeth current Queen, current ruler. Uh, she is married
to a dude named Prince Philip, who you never hear
about because he's like it all flows through the blood
of this one family. Did you hear about him in
the UK? But not out here in America? You don't
hear about it. Uh So everything it's all about flowing
(44:53):
through the blood of this one family. So on the
other hand, so that's one extreme and that I don't
think a lot of Americans have like hear about Prince
Philip all that much, even though he's married to the Queen.
But on the other hand, Princess Diana was not like
considered an actual like heir to the throne, but she
was like the British Madonna. She was like the biggest
(45:16):
deal in the world. Um So, yeah, it can go
really either way. Um I guess with the line of succession,
the one thing would be her kids with Harry, assuming
they have kids, would be some distant version of being
in line for the throne, which would presumably be the
(45:40):
closest the line of succession has ever passed to people
of color. It was interesting, is like some of the
coverage though there are so some people they're they're like
shouting around like it's great that there's like a woman
of color who joined the royal family and things like that,
then other ones are a little more just shitty. Yeah.
(46:00):
The Daily Mail, uh in November of last year, had
a headline Harry's girl is in parentheses almost and then
straight out of Compton. Uh that's the Daily Mail, y'all. Yeah.
So even this Daily Mail piece kind of goes on
to even say some ship like if there's an issue
from her alleged union with Prince Harry, the Windsors will
(46:20):
thicken their watery thin blue blood and spencer pale skin
and ginger hair with some rich and exotic DNA. They
also uh. The writer who wrote this piece also described
Megan Markole's mother as a dreadlocked African American lady from
the wrong side of the tracks. So her mother, Doria Ratlin,
who they're talking about like being from the wrong side
(46:43):
of the tracks, is actually a psychotherapist and yoga instructor.
Her dad is uh an Emmy Award winning lighting director.
She actually grew up in Hollywood, went to like one
of the better most prestigious private schools in Los Angeles,
uh and graduated from Northwestern, which is one of the
(47:05):
better schools in America. Uh So, yeah, all of this
bullshit about her being from the wrong side of the
tracks as bonkers get these are like this one in
the Daily Veil. There are more gossipy sites. As much
as they want to argue that they're like, you know,
legitimate journalistic outlets. When I performed, I did stuff at
the Olympics, We welcomed the athletes, we had the Daily
(47:26):
Mail coverage, and that's when I saw firsthand how much
they made up. They said that we were speaking in tongues.
They said that the athletes looked at us like they
hated our performance, and I was like, they were loving
it and we were singing queen songs like it was
just completely made up, Like it wasn't Actually it was
fake news. Wow that that was the Daily Mail or
(47:49):
one that was the Daily Mail. Yeah, um, yeah, we're
gonna we're gonna stay on top of this because we're
getting our girl making. She's gonna get it. She she
will be on the throne. Yeah. But I just suddenly
became like so protective. Yeah, I think, don't do work
like that. This may eventually just become a royal watching podcast,
but for now, that's going to do it. For today's episode, Katia,
(48:10):
where can people find you? I'm on Instagram and Twitter
at Katia finger, k v I N g um and uh,
a couple of things on YouTube, but mainly mainly Instagram.
Awesome is that your main media. Yeah, prefer like pictures,
(48:31):
video miles Where can people follow you? You can follow
me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. You
can follow me at Jack Underscore O'Brien. You can follow
us the Daily Zeitgeist at the Daily ziegeis on Instagram.
We have a Facebook page that is The Daily Zeitgeist,
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(48:52):
zeks no the and you can also find us on
our website Daily Zeitgeist dot com where we post our
episodes and we post our foot nope boot where you
can find all the sources for all the stuff that
you thought we were making up on today's episode. Uh,
and that's gonna do it for this episode one of
(49:15):
season eight. We will be back tomorrow with more podcasts
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