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Hello the Internet, and welcome to season one eleven, Episode
two of Daily sight Geist, a production of I Heart Radio.
This is a podcast where we take a deep dive
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And we still have to pay homage to the number
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and don't forget you know, nine tip Dracula. Dracula was great, Laura,
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be joined in our third seat by the hilarious and
talented Trak. Thanks. Sorry, it's great to be back. Yeah,
you look great, Thank you. I feel great. You're wearing
the holiday as well. Thank you. How how is everybody's Thanksgiving? Oh?
You know fine? I was very grateful that day, but
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only that day. No others. Yeah, any any different from
any other long weekends. You guys just travel chill. I
just ate slightly more than usual. Yeah. Same. It's a
funny thing, right that we allow ourselves to eat so
much more. On that day? We had no turkey, none, right,
which will piss Yeah, No, no turkey. I'm sick of turkey.
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I'm sick of pretending to be something I'm not. Had
we had chicken swarm in your face, racists. We had
hummus tabuli. We had an Egyptian Thanksgiving. Hell yeah, it
was great. That sounds amazing. One thing that we did
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that I highly recommend is in the past I have
done the honey baked ham thing for Thanksgiving, and this
year we just honey baked ham to the whole Thanksgiving.
We just went out and got the turkey too, and
all the sides and put them in the microwave like
an hour before Thanksgiving. Uh. Then laws were in town,
so we did it official. But it was so easy.
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That's great, that's smart. Yeah, time is currency to that
preparation stuff. Well, we're gonna get to know you a
little bit better in a moment. First, we're gonna tell
our listeners a couple of things we're talking about. We're
gonna look at what the box office looked like over
the long weekend. Uh, people were concerned maybe the Irishman
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is gonna funk everything up for the regular box office
because everybody likes to, you know, stay in and watch
for our meditations on mortality and being uh and on
the plight of the elderly, which that ends up being.
We're looking once again at just the fact that the
polls are moving for impeachment removed before the long weekend
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for impeachment, but it was like after the news cycle
closed down, so nobody really talked about that. And it
seems like the news cycle is still drifting along on
this idea that people just like, we're not swayed by
the by the impeachment hearings, and meanwhile it's actually like
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near peak support for impeachment and removal. We're gonna look
at Bombshells Steve Bullock and Joe Sestak. Uh, would you
guys know how like what they relate to? If I
didn't finish the sentence that they dropped out as candidates
for theocratic you were talking about that movie Bombshell coming out. Uh,
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We're gonna look at Jared Kushner taking over his father's
quest to complete the wall. I believe they have completed
something like seventy feet two or thirty two. I'm sorry
I was giving them too much credit. Uh so thirty
two feet they have miles and miles left to do.
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But his father in law is like, you know, I'll
put Jyard on it. We're gonna do a royal check.
And the royals are in the news for a number
of great reasons. The crown and you know, et cetera.
Is how I'm sure they'd like us to summarize it.
We're gonna look at NBC continuing to uh drift fox
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word in their overall politics and their stance. They've decided
to kind of stand up as the right wing mainstream
media outlet, it seems like. So we're gonna talk about
that briefly. And of course the Christmas ornament from Amazon,
the Auschwitz themed Christmas ornament that got taken down, But
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this is part of a long tradition, so we'll talk
about that. But first, Tammer, we like to ask our guest,
what is something from your search history that is revealing
about who you are? Ah, it's funny that you mentioned.
I actually recently looked up the origins of the Statue
of Liberty and it was an Egyptian woman, wasn't. Yeah,
it is designed after Egyptian woman. It was originally supposed
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to be built for the Suez Canal, and the designer
when he started researching Egypt, was blown away by the
pyramids and stuff, and then he saw an Egyptian peasant
woman and designed the Statue of Liberty. She was supposed
to stand at the front of the Suez Canal the
south side holding a torch, and then so in your face, Trump,
no matter how hard you try, we are in the
DNA of this country. And I want more people to
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know that. So when they come into American port, they go, oh,
that's not just a woman holding a torch. That's an immigrant.
It's an immigrant woman and a poor immigrant woman too.
So yeah, that was a happy search history. Yeah, that's
what is something you think is underrated. I think Bernie
Sanders is grossly underrated. I think he's added some spice
to his that. You think he's added some spice to that.
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I think there's a funny. I don't think age matters.
I think life force matters. Like a Bloomberg. You know,
Bloomberg is just a couple of months younger than Bernie,
but he's got a bigger life force. You know, He's
got this energy about him, and I think Bernie's figured
out that he's got to tap into some of that,
and I think he's done a good job so far.
I think he's Do you think Bloomberg has more life
than Bernie? I think his energy, the way he speaks
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and stuff. For sure, he looks like a more solid
person but I think Bernie's upped his game a little bit.
He used to come up and look a little frazzled sometimes,
you know, it was a bummer, And there is such
a thing as ages um it really happens. And I
think he's he stepped up his game a little Yeah.
You know, do you think he maybe, like, even though
he doesn't hang around with a lot of billionaires, do
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you think he started practicing some of the billionaire's habits
of like transfusing the blood of children, And how do
you think he pulled it off? No? You know, I
think he's one of those people that's that's been pointed
at true North since he was a young guy. He's
I think he's the person that got bit by a vampire,
bit stayed a human. You know, like when I look
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at I think power is the real drug. That should
be the drug we have a war on because anytime
somebody has too much power, they become corrupt. That's why
so many famous people are are upsetting us now. People
that we thought were heroes they had too much power
and power. I can't wait for that to happen to
happen to me. See, but I think we need to
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start treating power like that. If you can't have more
more than two drinks to drive a car, you shouldn't
make more than two million dollars a year to to
steer a country. But you're not connected to human beings anymore.
And I think Bernie has done a good job staying
amongst the people and being more like a vampire in
Seattle than one in Transylvania. Yeah. Yeah, that's a really
good point about the two million dollars and even the
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difference between two million dollars a year, which is too
much money for anyone to make. Uh, and what like
Michael Bloomberg has shocking We did like some stat about
how like a millionaire is somebody like it's the equivalent
of like five minutes, and a billionaires the equivalent of
like three weeks or something like that. And it's a
it's a legitimate thing. It does change people. There's literally
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a course case, a case in the legal system about
a kid who claimed affluenza. It was like a disease
from having too much money. Yeah, like it's I think
people are going to dig more into it when I
think we're gonna find out it does change people. Yeah,
I think probably in different ways like the Affluenza kid.
I think was just like I never knew there were
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such things as consequences. I was sheltered from an early age,
whereas I think we're also talking about like some weird
like life force draining energy vampire Dracula having um C
d OCD makes me hate that Dracula so much more. Oh,
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that extra boob just drives you crazy. Um it's in
a circle, so it's not as though like one like
one's lops like one of the sides of SID. It's
like a circle of nine breasts. Yes, I'll accept it.
Very satanic. Wait, Jack, what was that like five minutes
versus three minus? I wanted to look it up. It's
it's somebody tweeted it, and it's like stuck in my
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mind forever, and we talked about it in a recent episode.
But it's basically like, if you convert dollars to seconds,
a million a million seconds is the equivalent of like
twelve days is a million seconds, thirty three years is
a billion seconds. So it's like how long you're allowed
to live if you have that much money. Yeah, I
think that. I mean that's eventually probably going to be
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the case. I mean that movie in Time starring Justin
timber Lake. Ever seen it? Right? But I mean, like
you know, they're they're looking at they're all trying to
live forever, all the billionaires. They're trying to find ways
to preserve their being, upload their consciousness to the to
the way eb I don't know. I called baby Yoda
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baby Yoga hopelessly old, irrelevant baby super producer on it
isn't informed me that her and her boyfriend have been
just laughing at me over over the long weekend for
saying that, and rightly so, I think it's It's definitely
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the most uh old dead thing I've ever said. And
they got this with the kids with the baby yoga. Um,
all right, what is something you think is overrated? For sure?
Turkey over Turkey, And this is the first year where
I claim my identity back. All my life, I've come
to America with my weird Egyptian food, and I've had
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American kids mock me about my musaka, about my tubuli,
about my homas, and you know what, you have gross
things too, and one of them is turkey. I remember
writing letters to my cousin in Egypt, going, look at
what these people eat and He's like, what's a jurkey?
What does he even look like? I said a picture.
He wrote back a three page letter start to bottom
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the word you so girl, it was a flying ball sack.
It's a really disgusting who eats that a lot of
people better have musaka. Thank you very much. Yeah. Also
sorry going back to your underrated on Bernie Sanders the
spice and his rice thing. Uh somebody was talking about.
So we we covered the fact that daval Patrick had
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a event at Morehouse State. I think uh canceled because
only two people showed up, and those two people were like, yeah,
we're just curious to see if anyone would show up,
and so like on his way to the event, he
canceled it. But Bernie Sanders had had like a huge
rally at that same college like two days earlier. So, uh,
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you know that the idea that Bernie Sanders is only
for white dudes, I think is changing this a little bit. Uh,
and CARDI b exactly exactly what Finally, what is a myth?
What's something people think it is true? You know to
be false. I don't want to be too political. Can
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I be political? I don't think Trump is a real
person like, like, I don't know, UM think I think
we're here's what. I think. We're in a war right now.
And I think Trump is a Russian operative. I really do.
I think, And people can say what they want to say,
but there's people out there. I think the earth is flat,
all right, So I think he's a Russian operative. I
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think people are not paying attention to things that are happening.
When we left Afghanistan, Putin walked in and took over
the military base that we built. It's now Russian operated.
There's so many connections between him and Putin. It's like,
it's not just that he's a bad president. He is
a trader, and he's probably the most successful trader we've
ever had in the history of mankind. Yeah, d J.
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Daniel happens to agree with you. It is one of
those things that when you say it, it's like people
on both sides are like, all right, man, like Trump's
a Russian spy and like that. That has become like
a cliche thing to say and like to make fun
of as a deluded perspective, because I think there are
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some people on the in the liberal side of the
political equation who have decided that you know, Russia hacked
the election and that's why Hillary lost, and we don't
have to change anything about the Democratic Party because it
was just Russia cheating and that like, so let's just
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solve this crime and everything can go back to normal.
And I don't think that is necessary, Like, you don't
have to believe that to also just look at the
evidence of all the ways that Trump is acting in
the interests of Russia that like military like leaders are
all just like, man, this is that's absolutely that's absolutely right.
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I think I was in Santa Monica yesterday on the
third Fear prominade during a holiday season, and there was
the most Trump and no but I saw the most people,
saw the most militarized police truck I've ever seen in
my life in Santa Monica, and I'm like, what's going on?
After seeing what's happening in Hong Kong. These are governments
taking major oversteps into our freedoms, and like, we shouldn't
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be focused on Democrat Republican we should be focused on
people versus governments. That's the problem. Look at Hong Kong.
Hong Kong is US. That's that's what's freaking me out
right now. So it's not just about Trump and it's
not democratic republican. It's about governments. He's changed the water
in in d C. And politicians now on both sides
are starting to feel like they can do more to
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us without us biting back. And it's time to sharpen
our teeth. Yeah hell yeah, man, you should run for
something totally. I'm already being followed by T s A
agents constantly in the airport and now they're going at
least they stuck you with a tale that uh probably
gives up after fifteen and like, I gotta go on
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break man, I got I get the stupid comedy calendar.
People know where I am all the time. My life,
it's a nightmare. Have you got more tattoos since you
were in last You have to tattoos? Thank you? Everybody
should check out our instagram. No, I didn't get more.
Um I usually most of my tattoos always ever since
I was a kid. They're memorial, so no one's died,
thank goodness. There's only one that I got that it
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wasn't a memorial, and it was this one. On the
eleven February eleven, I was in Egypt when performing for
the protesters when a guy tried to stab me and
I was in Egyptian, in Egypt, and and that was
to me, that was like the death of me thinking
I was just an Egyptian. I'm not Egyptian anymore. Egyptian American.
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That's a whole other entity. Holy sh it, since the
only other thing that's not a human death. Yeah, when
we come back, we'll talk about the box office, but
just on the on the subject of the irishman. H
that's actually something that kind of runs throughout because the
story weaves into, uh, the topic of Jimmy Hoffa, who was,
according to Robert De Niro's character Frank Shearan, he was
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bigger than Elvis in the fifties. He's bigger than the
Beatles in the sixties, which probably is true for like
a small portion of the population. I don't know if
it was true for everyone in America. But he is,
you know, frequently giving speeches. He was this really powerful
figure who was frequently giving speeches about you know, how
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the people need to unite, the people and the workers
need to unite against capital and the government. Right and solidarity,
yea solidarity, class solidarity, And that is something that's a
concept that just completely evaporated, like during during the eighties,
Reagan just basically killed the unions. And I do wonder,
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you know how much the fact that the only thing
we know Jimmy Hoffa as today is that guy who
disappeared who might be buried under like you name it,
just like an urban legend. How much of that is
just you know, the fact that labor is no longer
even a concept to us, Like I wasn't even raised
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with a concept of you know, labor solidarity and like
working class solidaries. Yeah. Um, all right, Well we'll get
more into the Irishman and more into the weekend box
office after this brief commercial break, and we're back and timer,
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you just told Anna that your mom says Happy Thanksgiving.
Your mom and super producer on a hosny a are acquainted. Yes, yeah,
uh that's I just think that's very cool. All right,
let's talk movies. And an Anna said, yeah, it just
messaged her like it was like her home. Uh, so
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let's talk about movies. Uh this weekend, did you guys
watch many movies this weekend? Any movies this weekend? Long weekend?
I saw Knives Out. I really want to see that
it's I really liked it, big fan, I'm gonna go
see it again. That actually had a big It overperformed
expectations and it made like forty one million dollars at
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the box office, which for a movie that wasn't like
previously existing I p and it's like an adult movie
for adults about adult things. Uh. I think Hollywood was like,
what the fuck? How is this? I mean, has marketed well,
like that trailer was like, oh yeah, I want to
see that. I think he also has like I think
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maybe the Last Jedi probably threw people off the scent
a little bit because he it was like this massive blockbuster.
But I think he is like one of the few filmmakers,
like you know, Jordan Peel and like a couple other
filmmakers who is a draw in and of himself, because
like his movies are just like generally interesting. Um. But
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so that that's a good one. I have not seen it. Well,
we'll give people a little time to see it. Uh.
We also we also watched I think all three of
us saw The Irishman. I haven't seen it yet. Oh
you didn't see I didn't because it's not a man
who was bitten by a radioactive Irish, So I'm not
going to see it on those grounds. Yeah. Well usually, Well,
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if I do see it, i'll hate it because it's
not about that. I might see it even though you
know that you'll keep waiting for that. I'm gonna wait
for the moment when the Irish person who is radioactive
bites a man, and until that happens, I'll hate it. Yeah.
I mean, it would explain what happened to Robert de
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Niro's eyes, because he has I don't know if you've
ever seen Black Sunday, the Johnny Depp movie about Whitey Bulger. Oh,
Black Mass, Black's Was it called Black Sunday. It's definitely
not called Black Sunday. Is it called Baby Yoga? It's
called Baby Yoga? And uh no, it's called Black Mass.
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Have you seen that? I have not seen it. He
is terrifying looking and like they give him these like
weird blue eyes that are clearly done in some sort
of post effect. But DeNiro is the same thing going
on throughout this movie. It's not it's not enough to
like distract you. Um, but timer you saw the Irishman,
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you liked it. I did, surprisingly because I have a
really complicated relationship with masculinity, you know, like I grew
up with a dad that was physically abusive, and then
I grew up in a boxing gym where I was
hungry on a lot of like meat heads and stuff.
And at a time when you know they boys don't
cry is like the statement du jour, you know what
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I mean. Like my I used to joke that the
first time my dad said stop crying, be a man
was after a doctor slapped me and said it's a boy.
So I've always had this complex relationship with it, and
I and I did. I always thought of Scorsesey after
a taxi driver, like he was categorized as like violence porn.
But then I saw this movie with a friend. It
was daytime, it was an IFC theater, it was in
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the village. I'm like, this is a perfect place to
see it. Why not let's go see it theater style.
And I thought three and a half hours was too long,
and three and a half hours plus Scorsesey felt heavy
to me, and I was even pre planning out my
pea breaks and and I didn't man. I sat through
it and there was this really nice, uh additional element
of like almost comedic like ingredients with like the way
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he used fashion and music and really subtle like black
belt level acting um with the way they played off
of each other. It was like watching the Harlem Globetrotters,
but with human dynamics. They were so on the a
game and it was I, I don't see old guys
like that. And then the nice thing was, even though
there was violence and even though there was like a
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lot of this machism throughout the film, it showed a
vulnerability that I haven't seen in a score score CC
film before, about masculinity and about life, and it was
a little deeper. It really felt like something he would
do in the final chapters of his life. Yeah, I
definitely think it's worth seeing. But I will say that,
and it's awesome to see Joe Pesci back again. He
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hasn't been in movies for ais and it was a
different Joe Pesci. I felt like it was like he
was very handsome and winning and like sort of the
guy like instead of being like sort of the somewhat
damage you know, sidekick or you know, like guy over
compensating for something, he was just like smooth operator. Joe
Pesci totally kind of smooth and wise, like it was
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a calm Joe Pesci, which which was a nice surprise
because he has been working on his music career. I
mean he's got bars. Yeah, he's got bars. Uh. Frozen
two has continued. That's another kind of piece of box
office information from over the long weekend is that Frozen
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two has continued to dominate. Now is officially another kind
of global phenomenon, just like the first one you did?
What do you think? It's fine? So that's the range
of responses from adults that I've heard, is that it's
fine down to it's bad. And from adults about how
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their kids experienced the movie. It was like, I don't
it seemed like it wasn't made for them necessarily, or
like it had like weird concepts that weren't necessarily going
to like resonate with children. Yeah. Yeah. So I described
it as Um the Fifth Element meets Annihilation because they
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go into this like annihilation Shimmer sounds almost like it's
like the matrix sequels like levels of like metaphysical things
like physical metaphysical. In the Shimmer, they have to figure out,
like what's this mysterious like presence that is Um summoning Elsa,
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and it turns out there there's a whole fifth element
storyline that it's like, yeah, I can see it very much,
not resonating. I was sitting next to two children on
either side of me, neither of them were mine, but
I don't have any children, um, and I feel like
they were like not really into it, or they weren't
quite getting what was happening. And then the songs were,
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I would say, on the whole better than the songs
from the first movie. But there they attempted to do
another like big let It Go um number and it
just the the let It Go song, and this one
didn't measure up. I think yeah, And then then yeah,
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and then there's like this weird um there's like a
subplot where the dude Christopher I think is his name,
the guy who's wants to fuck his reindeer by the way,
that's like a story right relationship with his reindeer that
his like troll family, don't ask, finds a little bit
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like weird. They're like, ah, this guy, yeah, I didn't
remember that from the first one. But then that carries
over into the second movie, and there's like a moment
where an eye straight up. I thought he was about
to fund his rain. He like looks at his reindeer,
and then he's like, I like reindeer better than I
like people, and I'm like, oh my god, he's about
to kiss his reindeer. Um. But then he's actually like
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working up the nerve to ask Anna or Anna or
whatever that character's name is to marry him, and like
that's a whole subplot, and I'm just like this it's
it was okay, but I didn't. I didn't like it
that much. I actually watched the first one over the
weekend with my three year old, who claimed he had
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seen it, but I realized halfway through he had just
seen the YouTube clip of Let It Go a number
of times. Uh, and it was like he he really
enjoyed it. He loved it. But my theory with these
movies has always been it's like becoming massive on the
strength of it being the first movie for young women
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based on the most important and identifiable relationship they have
in their lives, which is, you know, their relationship with
other young women in the face of you know, impossible
social standards and men who are constantly trying to seduce
and murder them. You know. It's like all Disney movies
up to that point, including this one, had been written
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by men as like, Okay, the woman then needs a
man to come in and like save her, and uh,
this one by accident, like it was going to be that,
and then they wrote let It Go and the song
was so good they were like, shit, Elsa needs to
be a protagonist too, and so they rewrote it to
be about Elsa and Anna as the protagonists and made
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the love interest like have a turn at the end.
Uh spoiler alert for the first Frozen. But I think
that just like that idea that they accidentally stumbled on
because Let It Go was so good, is still kind
of carrying these movies that seem to be based on
what everybody's saying, somewhat flawed movies in terms of like
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what they deliver in terms of just sheer like movie
going experience, uh, kind of carries them through to be
like these massive global Uh awesome, you guys both saw
it with kids like that. That's the main reason why
I can't see it. I feel like movie theater should
have like child caddies. If you're a single guy and
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you want to see a Disney movie, like would would
you like it's you're doing child? You can't see the loone, buddy,
it's too weird. That happened to me with the Lego
movie and I immediately went home and started having kids
to happy Yeah, yeah, I felt too awkward. Bring your
own cat, made my own child, Caddy. Well, check out
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the episode on Frozen of The Bechtel Cast where we
definitely thank you so much people I don't know. Caitlin
hosts one of the most popular best podcasts on our network,
the Betel Cast, which is each episode you guys break
down a movie from your from a feminist perspective. Indeed, Yeah,
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and any movies like Frozen are marking this like trend
towards you know, more feminist films. Uh. And though that
movie like did everything by accident kind of, but it
was it was well received, so um. And then you know,
after that, we got mo Anna and you know on
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all these other properties that do have more feminist undertones
overtones in them, So you know, we're seeing a trend
toward more progressive representation people. People get mad at me
for not mentioning Brave, which we just released, Yeah, and
a Pixar movie we just released an episode how did
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the movie hold up next to, um, well, next to
the feminist text that is broken right? Um? Pretty well?
I mean, and that was before anyone was really attempting
to do anything super feminist, at least in the mainstream
and especially in like Pixar things. But because it was
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like a woman at the helm of that movie. It
was you know, her story. It was based on uh,
you know, her relationship with her daughter. She got taken
off the project because John Lasseter is a piece of ship.
But um, yeah, it was like her kind of calling
the creative shots for the most part. Uh. And uh
that's why we like have this nice movie about a
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mother daughter relationship and this you know, like strong female
protagonist holds up pretty well. Um all right, let's talk.
Let's check in with a political world real quick, guys.
The polls prior to the long weekend started moving. I
think I think it's basically there's a weak leg built
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into the polls, like a week long, seven day lag
built into the polls because you need to pull people
on how they're feeling, and it takes about seven days
for like to complete uh worthy poll. But that's not
a thing that the media likes to acknowledge because then
it just kind of makes them look less relevant. Uh
(31:50):
So there was like, as like Wednesday happened, finally started
registering some of those polls, and uh, the people's up
haggans moved back to where they were when the call
memo slash transcript was first released, which was kind of
the height of thinking that the president should be impeached
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and yeah and removed from office. But so, I you know,
we talked about this before on yesterday's episode, but it's
still doesn't seem like it's kind of being registered in
the mainstream media. I'm not sure if it's like a
cocktail of Thanksgiving hangover and it being old news by
(32:34):
the time the journalists get back to their desk, But
it seems like people are still just kind of coasting
off of that. Well, what are the Democrats gonna do now,
because they don't you know, they don't have all the
evidence they need or do the Democrats have the evidence
they need? And it's just it's democracy, it's not burger king.
You can't have it your way. The guy's a criminal
and there's evidence pointing towards him being so that public
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opinion doesn't matter. Records opinion. Does tired of like the
media treating our our politics like it's a popularity contest.
I love high school in the nineties, do you know
what I mean? Like, what's right? We have to focus
on what's right. Criminal he's been he there's evidence against
him being a criminal, and I don't care how how
snowflake conservatives feel right now. I would agree with that.
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I also think that the focus on the public opinion
is basically, you know, the Republicans are looking at that
as to like from the Senate side, whether it's going to, like,
whether it's going to be unpopular for them and for
their party to just sort of push this guy through
and that's like to effectively actually have him removed from office.
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I think that needs to be the message that Republican
senators get, is that like it's bad for their party
long term and short term, uh for them to just
be like, now, whatever he can do, whatever he wants, um,
which I I think is the actual truth of it.
It's just a matter of like whether we can get
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to that truth through all the you know, Fox News
spinning and all the bullshit. I think he's getting progressively
more and more dangerous because as you get more and
more power, He's getting more and more drunk, so his
his actions are becoming even more and more erratic. You
know what I mean, Like it's I it's such a problem. Yeah,
especially for an Egyptian. Sorry to say that, but I
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mean for I just one last quick thing is I
think a lot of people don't realize that for people
who immigrated here from countries where we had dictators, we
had people that would like praise other dictators. You're giving
away your freedom. It's not This isn't about right or
left or about who wins this or that. You're giving
away your freedom, and you're allowing politicians, not just him,
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but every politician watching him who wants to be a
politician to go. I can manipulate the public. I can
I can get become president and then make money off
of it and scam people, use mob like behaviors. It's terrible. Yeah,
I mean, is that something that you recognize from like
the rise of dictators. Leaving Egypt was like leaving an
(35:08):
abusive alcoholic father. And then I came to American it
was Brady Bunch Dad, And now all of a sudden,
Brady Bunch Dad has alcohol in his breath and I'm like,
I've smelled that before. Yeah, I've smelled that before, and
I know that smell. And people who are American citizens
should talk to people that have had dictators in their
country and say, what does he smell? Like? Yeah, they're like,
I read, I read. I've talked about this before on
(35:30):
the show, but I read a old report from somebody
who was an expert on the rise of Nazism in Germany,
and they said that alarm bell started going off in
their head when Republicans began opposing Obamacare on just purely
ideological grounds and just like it wasn't based on any
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like basis in reality or like what you know, what
what the strength of the arguments was. It was just
this pure the ideological thing that I don't know. It
seems like people who pay attention to history are all
like of that same minds who grew up around dictators.
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Like this is a really slippery slope and we're just
kind of ignoring it. My grandfather used to say, history
may repeat itself, but it sure does rhyme. It's this
cold quote that he heard. So he said, the way
you need to look at history books is like a
Farmer's Almanac. Yeah, not like an old book. Not like
old things that happen, but new things that can. That's
(36:33):
the reason why you should read this protection of events,
because we're predictable. Where were the still the same human beings?
We still have the same software in our brains. Yeah. Um,
Steve Bullock and Joe Sastack dropped out of the Democratic
race yea. Yeah, now that we recognize their name from
(36:53):
the recap recap, that seems like big news. But I like,
I none of us know who these people are, so
I won't even like it. Just seems like this is
a commentary on how unnecessarily full of the Democratic field
was already in the first place before you know, Bloomberg.
I was going to vote for them, damn it. I
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love Michael Michael. Uh just other random uh Steve, Joe
Michael uh so uh kind of big news that's not
being covered as much as that Jared Kushner is now
taking over the border wall project. Um so yeah, there
(37:40):
that should do it. Uh. He recently, you know, nailed
the Middle East piece plan. I think the we've achieved
piece in the Middle East. Uh. And so now Trump
has brought in Kushner and Kushner immediately enlisted the help
of we Work founder and class old douchebag Adam Newman too,
(38:02):
like give him advice on how he should get this
wall built. Or actually I think he asked Adam Newman
for advice on the Middle East. Uh. And Newman bragged
to people that Kushner and Mohammed had been Solomon would
save the world with his advice. And when people were like, uh,
(38:22):
mbs just murdered a journalist, he was like, yeah, he
just needs the right mentor, which is such a douche
she uh tech industry thing. Mentorship is the most important
force out there. So after three years of doing that,
Trump moved him over to the wall project because, Uh,
(38:43):
the only new stretch of wall they've built since he
was elected on build that wall, chance, is thirty two
ft long. Uh yeah, but it's like five feet high,
so they've actually it's actually done a lot, and what
they erected can be cut through easily with a saw
that costs less than a hundred dollars um. Trump's walls
(39:07):
is effective as those cowboy hat toilet paper things that
we sit on in public restrooms. Well, speaking of an
STI would see through this paper. Speaking of paper, the
most successful stretch of Trump's border wall, or at least
the longest, was actually one made by children out of
craft paper during the White House Halloween party. Actually paper.
(39:31):
It was just like pieces of brick colored paper that
were stretched across the wall in the White House around
the words build that wall, with like messages from children
written on it. But what could the messages be that like, yeah,
President Trump, let's be racist. Like there's literally no teachable
(39:52):
skill that's being honed. There. Wait, we zoom in on
this photos. I wasn't able to find zoomed in picture.
It also could just all be things that the White
House interns like built to make it look like they
had the support of the fifth grade demographic. I zoomed
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in on one and it said, dear Mr. President, your
hair tastes like cotton candy. So anyways, it seems like
Kushner really has work cut out for him. Uh. In
order to meet his goal of around four hundred miles
by the election. Again, they've built thirty two ft in
three years. He's gonna build four hundred miles in the
(40:33):
next twelve months. Uh, they will have to accelerate the work.
According to Kushner at least fourfold, which is a lot.
That also would only leave you with less than a mile.
But the government will have to obtain hundreds of privately
owned parcels of land in Texas. Uh, then build on
(40:54):
the land in a year. And that that's like the
technical difficulty that you know, It's basically another intractable problem
that Trump is just like, well, my son in law
is a genius, because Ivanka tells me he's a genius.
So I'm just gonna throw him at the problem. And
then when he says he did a good job, I
will assume the problem has been solved, because that was
(41:16):
the promise. Right in three years, I would build four
hundred feet of wall for it. Yeah, exactly, except you
need for forty miles or Uh. He's also just frustrating
the hell out of people who are already working on
it because he came in and was like, all right,
here's how we're gonna do things. We're gonna go faster,
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and they're like, okay, just move faster. Uh. And yeah,
they're just annoyed because he has no knowledge or experience, uh,
has no idea about how the government would go about
procuring those lands. That they need to procure. Uh. He
believes that they should start live streaming the building of
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the wall, which would not be popular with the construction
companies because that is, you know, it's like being nanny stated,
and also uh like would give away, you know, their
techniques of how they were building. Its boring if I
want to watch a wall being built, I wanted to
be exciting. Yeah. And the other main problem with the
(42:24):
project thus far as it's being headed up like all
projects for the past three years, by somebody who changes
his mind constantly, and is you know, one over by
these like fifth grade notions that you should build a
big ditch with pointy spikes and paint the wall black
so it'll be hot to the touch. These are all
Trump ideas. Um. So yeah, it's all just kind of
(42:48):
a complete mess. Uh. No one actually seems to want
this to happen other than Trump, and Trump doesn't even
really want it to happen. He just knows that his
base will hold him to it in the next election.
But he's also been caught saying behind like off the record,
that he's doesn't give a shit about the wall, but
that like his base wants it. And there's also the
(43:11):
matter of working with construction contractors. Who if Trump cared
about how contractors felt, that he would have paid them
at some point in the past. He doesn't have a
long history of like contracting work and never paying for it.
Ever ever pays unless you take him to court, in
which case he will draw it out and extended legal
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battles and make it cost you money to get paid money.
Uh And he has made some pretty impressive walls, like
the wall that now exists between us and our allies,
the wall that now exists between Americans that were one's neighbors,
between decency and what's right. He's been thanksgiving tables. Um,
(43:54):
there's there's one other problem with the border wall that
I hadn't actually thought about. That they're trying to build
it on the border, but US crews can't go into
Mexican territory, like, so if they're live streaming it, like,
they would be constantly breaking the law because they're having
to like go on both sides. You can't just build
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a wall from one side. You need like workers on
both sides of the wall, and like you need them
to have the freedom to go from one side of
the project to the other. Uh. So, that's they would
be illegally crossing the border thousands of times on a
live screen. The border is that a real thing too.
It's almost like when you're a kid and you're like,
that's how Lava Mexico. Yeah, And because of all these concerns,
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Kushner has continued to push forward with a twenty four
hour camera wall idea. Anyways, so it'll be interesting, uh,
and we will keep tabs on it because surely it
will be the next project and problem that they solved
for all Americans. We're gonna take one more break and
(45:07):
we'll be right back. And we're back and uh. Super
producer Sophie Lichterman today came into the office talking about
something that I've been hearing a lot of people talk
(45:27):
about lately, and that is the Royals, the British royal family.
I've been hearing them talk about it because of The Crown,
which just dropped its third season, the first season with
its new cast with Olivia Coleman and other people. But
Olivia Coleman playing the queen. She's always playing a queen,
always playing that queen, the favorite I know. She was
(45:50):
so good now, so that's big news. And apparently she
in this season is sort of hardening into the sort
of stoic meny who killed Princess d Uh? I don't
know that's it's a wild conspiracy theory. But there's also
a new article that Camilla, Prince Charles's wife, who his
(46:14):
wife uh, is being groomed to be the next queen.
So this is something I didn't know. Guys. Queen Elizabeth's
husband is a prince because he was not born in England.
He's Greek, and so they're like, oh God, what are
you doing? So he has no claim to any power,
(46:36):
he can't become king. But if Prince Charles becomes king
after the Queen passes on, his wife would be able
to be queen because she was born in England and
has like vague royal connections and the duchess yeah, the
Duchess of something or other. So the reason I think
(46:59):
she is the duchess is possibly by marriage from her
first marriage. I don't know that this could be totally wrong,
but so an interesting thing about her and Prince Charles
is that like they have been in love since they
were like children, and then like the queen split them
up and like sent him to his like royal military
(47:22):
service in Costa Rica and like her elders married her
off because they didn't think she was worthy of the
of the crown. And so this is like part of
a long ongoing uh story that you know. What's crazy
about this story makes me think of how phenomenal Prince
the Musician was. Every time you say the word prince,
(47:46):
my brain has to go, not that prince, not that one.
That's how big of an impact he's out of my life.
And then you have to downgrade and yeah, way cooler.
Our prince is way cooler than your England unfortunately. Um.
But yeah, so there's all sorts of intrigue about what
(48:08):
will happen when Queen Elizabeth retires or passes away. Uh.
And then there's also the Prince Andrew stuff, which I
don't know if you guys have you seen this, You
heard about this? I heard about it. Yeah, so he's
a pervert. Oh who was all over that Lolita Express
and uh, little Saint Jeffrey Island. Did you guys see
(48:30):
the pictures of that island? So gross? It's gross, but
it's also the island looks really nice. Yeah, yeah, and
that is what's important. I mean, the real estate value
on that. You guys have to understand what a difference
Prince Andrew would make if he was Prince Andy. It's
like putting shorts on cops, Like, I know you're so
(48:50):
an authority figure, but your cue now, Yeah, shorts really
do undermine I tried to wear shorts wants to work,
and people just wouldn't even look at me when I
try to like make meetings with so like the blonde
mustache of clothes that there's a whole beat in the
Irishman about the lack of seriousness. Uh, some wearing shorts
(49:14):
and to meet with half a h and wear shorts
to a meeting and doesn't go well. Uh. There's a
stand up comedy book called don't wear shorts on stage
because people won't take you seriously as a comedian if
you're wearing shorts, no one wants to see your legs. Yeah,
I'm trying to think if I've ever seen a comedian
wear shorts. I've seen it. I've seen it, but it's
(49:37):
I'm like, it's not good, especially in certain communities like Florida.
Some of the resort communities just comics and shorts. I'm like,
I'm very uncomfortable that's funny that I haven't seen it
because resort communities are where most of my favorite comedians performed. Yeah,
I'm a huge fan of the resort circuit. So checking
in with the NBC story there, there's additional details coming
(49:58):
out about Gabrielle Union's her time hosting America's Got Talent
after she was fired recently, I think the last couple
of weeks. So she said that Jay Leno made a
racist joke about Koreans eating cats. She complained, and they
fired her. The timing kind of lined up. She also
(50:20):
said that she was told her hair was too black,
and she quote Hunka fi No, that's not nobody said
Hunka fy it. But they did say her hair was
too black. And yeah, it's just it just generally sounds like,
I don't know, NBC just sounds so fucking toxic, like
at every level, uh, every behind the scenes story that
(50:42):
comes out like there there was all of the Roman
Pharaoh stories where he was trying to break the Weinstein
story at NBC News and they were just you know,
shooting holes in it from every angle, like just trying
to take it down. And then I was just talking
about how their headlines seemed to be drifting, sort of
right word in there, uh you know. There they had
(51:06):
They wrote the famous headline that the first day of
impeachment hearings lacked pizzazz, lacked the pizzazz that was going
to capture America's imagination. Um and and then they had
one about how firing uh the people the perpetrators of
in the me too movement wasn't going to solve everyone's problem.
(51:29):
Uh So, just just interesting keep an eye on NBC,
you guys. Uh And finally, I wanted to talk to
you guys about Amazon. This is sort of part of them,
the nicest company good stuff. Yeah. Uh So, there's an
ongoing trend of people just finding the most fucked up
(51:51):
things on Amazon stores. We did a story a couple
of months ago about how there are all sorts of
dangerous children's toys that you can find on Amazon. But
somebody recently found a Auschwitz themed Christmas ornament. Uh that Yeah,
(52:12):
And I mean there's some terrible Christmas ornaments on the internet.
There's one for a kiss tour bus that you can
find speak for yourself. I own it and I love it.
I mean, who wouldn't want Santa delivering presents below a
(52:32):
tiny replica of the place where seventy year old Jin
Simmons gives women vintage U T I s. But there's
also this year's ornament from the n r A featuring
a Christmas tree inside a cozy house with just National
Rifle Association written under it. But the product that really
(52:53):
caught people's attention, along with a similar bottle opener, was
this like Auschwitz themed Christmas ornament um And yeah, the
Ashwitz memorial tweeted selling quote Christmas ornaments with images of
Auschwitz does not seem appropriate. Auschwitz on a bottle opener
(53:16):
is rather disturbing and disrespectful. We asked Amazon to remove
the items of those suppliers and they did remove them.
But this is sort of part of a long term
trend of Amazon going viral for you know, not screening
the ship that they sell in their store, taking it down,
(53:36):
and then doing literally nothing to change their process. There
was a story that went viral where they were selling
like Nazi flags and a shirt that said I Love Himmler,
and somebody complained to them in in in a message
and they responded, We're like, we'll we'll take it down.
We'll take it down. And then a week later that
(53:58):
person got an add on Amazon that was like, you
might like this Nazi flag. There's also a Jake Saw
puzzle of dak ow Um wow yeah, and a T
shirt that says I love Heinrich Himler. So I said
about but they're so let them. Let them have their things.
(54:21):
As a half Jew, let them have their things. I
think hate creates cancer, and these people want that kind
of thing in their house if they think that makes
me a good person. Like there's a guy in my
block name Mike. I don't like Mike because but his
his dad passed away recently. I'm not going to put
up signs that say, hey, Mike's dad's dad right, because
I'm not a piece of ship person, you know what
(54:42):
I mean. These racists are. Basically, it's not that they're racist,
it's the piece of ship people. They're bad people. Nobody
wants to live next to them, not even white, not
even good white people. So let them have their ornaments
so they can be reminded of their disgusting hate and
let it eat away at themselves. Get I hope they
get cancer and die. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure. Maybe it's
(55:02):
good for the soul. Maybe it's like a screen, like
they are put there as bait so that we can
figure out who the awful people are buying these things.
And I don't know what would be done about that.
It's like when you peanut pool and it turns purple
all around you. We should have like a Nazi booby
traps and then these these guys are surrounded by swastika
(55:24):
colored purple water becauys, you would be violating their freedom
of speech, and uh yeah they apparently Amazon has policies
that prohibit hate speech. Uh, and that a policy applies
to everything except books, music, video, and DVD. So there's
a ton of white supremacists literature available through Amazon. That's
(55:47):
when you're too drunk. See like I think when you're
when you're a copy and you tell people you can't drive,
they make you try to touch the tip of your nose.
I think with people that make too much money, that
have too much wealth in this country, we should ask
them what's more important? People are money? If they say money,
they're too drunk. They're too drunk to communicate. They would
never they know not to say money. Well, we can
trick them. They're very trickable because they're drunk, right, but
(56:09):
they this is one of those things where they are
clearly slurring their words and people are just like, that's fine,
that's it is what it is. Or I guess people
are just so used to the person being money drunk,
because yeah, Amazon isn't changing anything, and uh, they just
don't seem to have the incentive. I mean, like for
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a company that has as much money as they do,
for a CEO who has as much money as Jeff Bezos, although, uh,
you know what, our thoughts and prayers go out to
him because Bill Gates just passed him as the richest
man in the world against h so you know what
we're all thinking about Jeff Bezos this holiday season. But
(56:53):
the idea that they couldn't do something to address this
problem like that it's just a problem with Gale, which
seems to be what people are arguing, is just so
beyond absurd. I don't know what to what to do
with that. There's one consideration I think about, which is that,
you know, it wasn't that long ago that we had
(57:14):
the fifteen year anniversary of the Internet, and I think,
you know, like fifteen years after we discovered fire, so
much arson you know. I mean, so I think we're there.
We do need to think about it in a way
where like, yeah, screw Amazon, but it also we should
start to operate as a village and be like, how
do we want to handle fire? The responsibility of fire?
How do we what are our what are our version
(57:35):
of fireman? What are and fire people? What is our
version of a smoke alarm? What's our you know what
I mean? We need to we need to think that way,
like holistically as a as a society to protect ourselves
from hate speech and violence and things like that. Yeah,
I mean, in the broad sweep of history, the Internet
is one of the biggest inventions of all the time.
And anytime there's a huge invention that shifts the grounds
(57:58):
of you know, wealth and just you know, how the
world works, there's usually big monopolies that spring up in
the aftermath, like the monopolies that happened after the railroads
and you know, things like that. But it's just, yeah,
it's frustrating that people don't seem to be worried about
(58:18):
her or seem to get that like it's something that
needs correcting necessarily. So that's suppressing. Yeah, Well, Tamar has
been amazing having thanks so much. I love hanging out
with you guys. I always end up feeling good even
though we're talking about stuff because it's pressing, you know,
but it's chatting with smart people and we're still in control.
I feel like we're like that, we're they're poking us
(58:40):
with the bear. They can't control us. Even French people
cut off a king's head, and we're tougher than the French.
I don't know about that. Let's prove that we are. Uh,
where can people find you? Follow you? The best place
is my website has all things my me. It's tamar
Katan dot com, m t A m e r k
(59:02):
A t t a n dot com. And also Instagram
is a really great place. It's at tamer cat t
A m e r k A t okay. And is
there a tweet you've been enjoying? Um? Yeah, I recently
wrote a silly tweet. Uh. It said, you know, when
Carly Simon wrote You're so vain, I bet you thought
(59:22):
this song was think this song is about you. People
know that song, but the song they don't know is
the second song that came out, which was You're totally right.
That song was about because he was vain but he
was right. God, how many people have you heard that
song was actually about. I've heard James Taylor of, heard
(59:45):
Mick Jagger of, heard Warren Beatty heard. I think Warren
Beatty is the one that people I think, Yeah, but
I mean he seems so nice on that Oscar stage
when he was talking about that award. How could he
be vain? Caitlin, where can people find you? And what's
a tweet you've been enjoying? Well? You can find me
on Twitter and Instagram at Caitlin Durante. You can go
(01:00:08):
to my website Caitlin ront dot com. I have online
screenwriting classes that I'm teaching coming up soon. The registration
links are on my website if you're interested in learning
screenwriting from someone who does have a master's degree from
Boston University. I hate to bring it up, UM grade school,
thank you, thank you so much. And uh a tweet
(01:00:32):
I've been enjoying this comes from UM. I might mess
up the way this is said. But at um Phillip
Grocery or groscier, do you think the grinches Dick is
harry too like the rest of his body or just
smooth and green it's a great question. I definitely think
(01:00:54):
First of all, I definitely think it's Harry. Okay, so
team hairy, team Harry and green. However, I don't think
it would be green if it was hairless, because isn't
he just green? For we don't I don't know if
we know what is skin color is right, because I
was watching The Grinch last night and it's the new
(01:01:18):
like Netflix one that uh, I don't even know who
voices the Grinch or like who's in it, uh, but
they At one point there's a joke that the Grinch
was buying green hair dye because he's a little getting
a little long in the tooth. What I'm saying, I
think it's I think it's a spectrum. Like I think
(01:01:38):
that the shaft is a dark green, and then on
the right before the head it's like a lime green.
And then it goes back to like a lot of
dicks are neopolitan. Yeah, yeah, yeah, shades of greens are
three shades of green. I've always said that. See I
think I'm team smooth Dick, smooth dis yeah, but but
green because I think his in his green in addition
(01:02:01):
to his hair being green. Interesting. A couple of tweets
I've been enjoying. Dylan Galula tweeted, I wish Trader Joe's
was on instacart quote. And then me living out my
little pretend life as my phone sells my medical history
to Chevron. Uh. And then Lewis Vitel tweeted at west
Elm there at least five Golden Globe nominated Diane Keaton
(01:02:23):
rolls walking around at any given moment. Uh, that's good. Uh.
And you can find me on Twitter at jack under
Squirrel O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at daily
zeygeis for at the Daily zeycheised on Instagram. We have
a Facebook fan page and a website Daily dotcom, where
(01:02:43):
it's great toast our episodes and our where we link
off to the information that we talked about in today's episode,
as well as the song we ride out on. And
super producer on a Hosny, a uh perpetual pinch hitter
for Miles Music Picks, has has a hot one for us.
(01:03:04):
She's been pointing at her phone, which has a Spotify
playlist up. Uh for the last hour. Actually it's been
kind of distracted, but uh, Sup Producer around Hosny a.
What song are we riding out on today? To continue
the knives theme? Nice out again. This one is called Um,
(01:03:32):
it's called looking for Knives and it's by Don d
y a N. I'm probably saying that wrong. I haven't
actually heard it ever said before. But it's a great song.
It's very low key, it's got chilled vives and it's
not looking for knives and you know sometimes you're uh,
there's no mike on you. Uh, it's a it's a
(01:03:52):
great jam. Um. I really like listening to it late
are looking for my nas? So yeah, enjoy it. Thank you,
super producor. All right, so we're gonna ride out on that.
We will be back this afternoon and then tomorrow because
this is the Daily podcast and we'll talk to you
that my name and I want to race. I gotta
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play and they give me a page, yes, sad me.
I'm wanna look up a time and they giving me bloom.
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I will look for time and I was looking for
me