Nerf’s New Spokes-Demon, Texas To Secede … Again 06.22.22

In episode 1273, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian, filmmaker, writer and co-host of 1Upsmanship, Michael Swaim, to discuss… Texas GOP had a weird weekend…, MSM hiding / downplaying progressive electoral performance, The New Nerf Macot is Freaking Everybody the F-ck Out and more!

1. Texas GOP had a weird weekend…
2. The Democrats Are Fools for Boosting Trumpist Republicans
3. MSM hiding / downplaying progressive electoral performance
4. The New Nerf Macot is Freaking Everybody the F-ck Out
5. Nerf’s New Mascot Murph Will Stalk Your Nightmares
6. Nerf Has a Nightmarish New Mascot Named Murph
7. A look inside the ALICE active shooter training taken by Pittsburgh Public Schools administrators
8. Why Toy Guns Matter

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to forty two,
Episode two after Day So Many twos. It's a production
of I Heart Radio and a podcast where we take
a deep dive into America's share consciousness. It's Wednesday, June two. Wow,
I mean I am. I am overwhelmed, which of course

(00:25):
means June twenty two is of course the combination. These
are four national days I can get Fine, Occasional chocolate
Declare Day, National h v a C Tech Day, National
Onion Rings Day, National Kissing Day, I Love kissing. What

(00:46):
do you like of those four kissing chocolate declares altogether? Man,
like the cramp cramped down, some chocolate declairs that have
been pushed through a some onion rings just through an
air duct and then uh starts afterwards kiss and kiss
a h back attack. Yeah, That's always been what I

(01:06):
do on June, and it's surprising to me that now
the rest of the nation is just catching up and
they haven't even recognized my contributions at the forefront of
this June twenty saying like, my my a C is broken,
I need somebody to come fix it. And then you
you butter them up with eclaires and onion rooms and
you're like, look, kiss, if you want to buy butter

(01:28):
them up, I'm talking about these lips there. You go anyway,
shout out air air conditioning because in our increasingly hostile
natural environment, Yeah, kind of a necessity. It's all palm
spring because I think there's a thing, right, A hundred
million Americans this week will be exposed to triple digit heat.
Was that right? Yeah? Big week, big week, for big
big week for big climate change falling off of American society. Well,

(01:53):
my name is Jack O'Brien, a k A. And I
think it's gonna be a long long time till Late
Years stops taking up on my mind. It's just an
actor or not the toy we know? Oh no, no, no,
it's an actor. Man should have planned to do this

(02:14):
with the actual well here row. That is courtesy Christie Almagucci.
Man just giving people a little glimpse into what is
happening inside my brain at any given moment over the
past couple of weeks, as I just wrestle with the
existence of the movie. Late Year not apparently really good
word to wrestle with that. You've definitely been grappling with

(02:36):
that const the consequences. The metaphysics of it all confusing,
but I do appreciate Christie. I'm a Gucci man also
at Wopple House. Just a great follow on Twitter for
anybody who's just catching up. He's just he's becoming a
power Twitter account. Yeah you know what I mean. Yeah,
like dai. Yeah, that's all I'm saying. Get in him,

(03:01):
strap on for the ride like a rocket man. Yeah. Well,
I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co
host Mr Miles Gras. June twenty one was the longest day,
longest day, longest day, longest day, longest day, longest day,

(03:21):
longest day. It was the longest day. Shout out to
the solstice that happened yesterday June one. Uh love that
point of like the summer when you're like just gonna
this is the most like we get baby, drink it in.
My favorite, my favorite feeling of the summer is just
how long the days are. And shout out to people

(03:43):
who are people who are like higher up on the
globe at higher what is that latitudes or longitudes whatever, Yeah,
you get the real fucking wild ass days when it's
like nine thirty in the sun setting and you're like,
I love it, I love it. Love it's anyway shout
out to the long days. Well, my was weird thrilled
to be joined in our third seat by a brilliant filmmaker, writer, actor,

(04:04):
comedian podcaster. He co founded what the A V Club
called one of the best podcast networks, Small Beans, where
you can find he and a bunch of the most
talented people we worked with a cracked hosting podcasts if
you've ever heard of those. He's one of the co
hosts of One Upsmanship, which is a new podcast on
our network. An old podcast from the Small Beans days,

(04:27):
but it's a great podcast that everybody needs to go
check out immediately epd by DJ Daniel if you need
any extra reason to check it out. He is the brilliant,
the talented, the kind Michael Swain. Oh brought the most
important epithet last, the kind Michael Swain. A k A quick,

(04:50):
Michael Swain, they're right outside our yards, Michael Swain, go
call the Roman God. No, wait, we need a more
permanent solution to this, Michael. I just wanted to see
if I could go low today. That's what that was about.
Definitely was beautiful. Hey, gang uh and that was by

(05:10):
Michael Swam at swam Underscore Corps, a decent follow on Twitter. No,
not that, but I'll get there. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
like an okay, pretty okay follow on Twitter that goode
was good to see you. Hang you for that kind
ass intro. Yeah, man, all, I mean, I'm excited to

(05:32):
be here mainly so I can talk about one upsmanship.
So I'm gonna immediately launch into that. I'm just throwing
to being part of our heart. Man. That back under
the Jack O'Brien umbrella, you know. Yeah, it's one step
shot of stealing your identity. That's on the horizon, but
we'll get there for now. Just under the same brand
umbrella is good enough. And yeah, you'd me to a

(05:53):
party called Operation Dicky Greenleaf. I didn't know exactly what
that was about. Um, that's actually part of his am
on my co host Adam Ganzer. It's like the old switchero.
That's a long but yeah, me and Adam just doing
taking one Upsmanship weekly, which has meant in my life.
What am I doing right now? Playing video games at
all times? Yeah? It used to be a monthly show.

(06:16):
Now it's weekly, So I basically upped my video game
intakes so I can stay abbreast of everything. Ne yah, yeah, yeah,
it'll be five up by this time next summer. That's
what we're working towards. What how is the video game
landscape right now? How are you? How are you feeling?
Spoken like someone who knows very little about the video game?

(06:39):
Video game? That's the second video game. I think we
went two days where I hit him with are you
winning sons? I mean, Retro's triumphant? Right now, Shredder's Revenge
is tearing it up. Everyone I know is talking about
that and the game I just mentioned in the babble Neon.

(07:00):
It's super fun. It's a good time to own a switch,
which I don't usually say so, I don't know what
about your switches if you're listening to this today now,
the twenty two the Shadow Run trilogy just came to consoles,
and you can get great nuggets like that over at
one upsom and show or by playing video game release dates.
But we will don't don't keep away the whole show. Now,

(07:21):
It's true, that's what it is. It's basically just an
overview of release dates. Yeah, that's our thing. It's actually
very fun. And hilarious and enjoyable, entertaining to listen to,
even if you don't play the video games, which in
some cases like there there are rare episodes where I
don't know the game you're talking about, but very rare,

(07:45):
very rare ver you got that switch check. How are you?
How are you living as a switch owner? Oh? Man? Yeah?
Because I remember I keep that ship on me. You
sent me a gift from the let Me Ride music
video from the Chronic album. I was like, what then
because this, and You're like, because I'm hitting switches right now,
and yeah, multiple, I have multiple switches. Switches like okay, uh,

(08:12):
I just gotta gotta keep one in every room, even
though that's by design supposed to use the switch for
multiple switches. All right, Michael, we're going to get to
know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we're
talking about. I want to talk about the how the
results for the democratic primaries in Los Angeles were reported.

(08:36):
We're not, I guess not reported there. There was a
report the morning after in the New York Times that
was like progressive Democrats got put on their ass and
they're on the defensive because everybody's afraid of crime and
siding with the police, which is like a standard narrative.
I mean, that was like the headline on the top

(08:57):
of Drudge Report heading into the elect So, like the
the mainstream media knew what they wanted to say about
the election. And it turns out the results were not
that the New York Times even should have known at
the time they published their article, but the results were
surprisingly progressive, like shockingly progressive if you had just been

(09:18):
reading the mainstream media accounts of like what what voter
sentiment was in Los Angeles. So we're gonna talk about
what the actual results were and how the New York
Times got it exactly wrong. I guess we don't know
exactly how they got it exactly wrong, but what that
strategy is all about getting getting things exactly wrong when
it comes to energy for progressive solutions. We're gonna talk

(09:42):
about the Texas GOP and their weekend, and of course
we will talk about Murf, which is an anthropomorphic amalgam
of ten thousand Nerf darts with the ability to run
and shoot a NERF gun that Nurse is about to
introduce as their spokes being and it's it's a it's wild,

(10:05):
it's weird, and yeah, so we'll talk about we'll talk
about Murph. But before we get to any of that, Michael,
we do like to ask our guests, what is something
from your search history? Well, Jack, this time there was
one clear winner, and it's knocked crop, which which I thought, uh,

(10:26):
in my ignorance, meant night ships, because I was like
looking up, I'm like, shooting way, I'm waking up to
ship way more night now than I did as a
younger man. And I was looking at up and I
don't know, I would think I was composing some kind
of joke for Twitter about it, and I'm like, I
need the German and I assumed it's knocked crop, but
it's not so that I ended up learning about something

(10:49):
much much scarier, which is the night raven, a mythical
Austrian and Southern German bugbear like creature that is a
flying bone demon raven with a hollow cavity in its chest.
And if your kids don't go to sleep all on time,
the knocked crop comes and stuffs them and it's bony

(11:10):
chest cavity and carries them back to its nest and
devours them. So it's one of those like ship classic
Grimm's fairy tales we used to use in addition to
hitting our we like hit them and say, a demon
bird's gonna eat you. Now leave me alone, behave good
since here's a here's a bed, A nice story like

(11:32):
get you relaxed. And my partner and I are just
considering having our first child now, so I need to
start learning this kind of yet this is perducial information. Yeah,
start with Grimms and just go darker from there. Holy shit,
I'm just waiting for the Adam Scott movie like Crampus
where they just completely red con knocked crop and now

(11:52):
it's like a really funny you know, banking jokes off
knocked crop. It's gonna happen. I never saw a Crampus as.
Is that kind of the idea with with Crampus as
they like to get in a funny direction. But it's
still it's still like grotesque horror. But I don't think
you're supposed to take it seriously as such, if you
know what I mean. It's got a bit of a
wink m It's like Leprechaun in the hood, but they

(12:15):
know what they're doing, which kind of loses some of
the magic for me, right, like people to be completely
not self aware if they're gonna whiff that hard I think, right,
did you guys have anything like that growing up, like
a like boogeyman or a story or you know, a
warning that you're like really stuck with you. I think

(12:37):
I've talked on here before. I had like this imaginary
blonde haired guy with like raccunas who But I think
that was like nobody told me that my my subconscious
just produced him wow, and that that just kept me
up at night. But did you have any anything like
cultural handed down to you? You know, just the neighbor
that my parents always told me, if you funk around

(12:58):
in that neighbor's yard, he's gonna pull a shotgun on you.
I mean we did, and he did, That's right. That
was probably scariest thing I think from childhood. Yeah, Yeah,
I guess I had the Catholic Church that was that
was basically I thought that I was going to help
because I said swear words in my mind right until
the age of like thirty two, until like the age

(13:21):
of seven or eight, I was like, well, that's it.
I'm I'm fucked. Yeah, I've already sworn so much on
this podcast. I think they demoted me another circle in
the one for the swearers and cursors. What is something,
Michael do you think is overrated? Well, first and foremost

(13:44):
the Knocked Crop. I mean everyone's talking about it and
it's you know, like it's the essence of the zeitgeist.
And I think it's a little dare I say, not good,
like not healthy. Everyone's discovering it the same way too.
They're crapping a lot at night. That's right. That's the
rough jerm and translation the pathway for not crap radicalization
right there. Yeah, we gotta dismantle that pipeline. Um, I'm

(14:06):
gonna say going viral, like off of a hit joke
on Twitter. Uh if if you haven't gathered, Twitter's my
only social media thing, and I've like honed it to
a fine point, right. I care a lot about Twitter,
and I think I I well, I use it as
like a writer's room. One of my favorite things that
cracked was and this can be brutal. There's a lot
of bad things about this, but I enjoyed the cutthroughout

(14:28):
Writer's Room with a dozen comedy writers who are all
like shouting their joke over each other, like I think
this will be or I'm the loudest and take up
the most space, or society raises me up to a
point where you'll listen to my punch line whatever the math.
However the mathematics breakdown, I do really like like raucous
writer's room, and uh, I think that instinct followed me

(14:49):
to Twitter, where I always want that joke to break
through and blow up. And uh, I finally got over
it because I when it does happen doesn't lead to
new followers first off, but second of all, I realized, Man,
I'm having so much more fun with my small beans community,
which has sort of been this new experience for me
where we go a lot deeper with our community, Like

(15:09):
I know a lot more of the users by name
and stuff about their lives, not in a way where
it becomes unhealthy, but just the pair of social friendly way.
And uh like our discord server you know over at
patreon dot com, slash small beans is super vibrant and
I love like having a cozy It feels like doing
a live show for like twenty five people instead of
a thousand, And I think there's something really special about that.

(15:31):
So I'm enjoying that lately. Up. Yeah, I think that
is like one of the gifts of the Internet that
shouldn't be underrated. It's definitely like the small communities that
blew them up. Yeah, it's it's I used to think
you sort of had to hit be four quadrant and
make it big in this world, and now I think
you really just have to find your people, right. You
have to find your audience fragments, and you can leverage that.

(15:53):
It doesn't have to be that big of a group
to make it as an artist, which is super cool.
So I turned overrated into a positive I hope that's okay. Yeah, no,
I love it. What's something that you think is underrated? Well,
there's this podcast one Upsmanship on the I Heart Radio
app and we're really trying to get it to blow
up and go viral. So go check it out. If

(16:15):
that could blow up, man, it would Oh the Catharsis,
I would feel I saw I'd go viral, but actually
that it was the authorship was completely changed and it
was a nineteen year old I'll take it. That's good. Anyways,
little nozas can tweet it out without accreditation, and I'll
be like, we made it, even if he's dunking on us.

(16:37):
I don't care radical self acceptance, which is uh specifically
in this case, I'm talking about work life balance because man,
I've spent so many years trying to work really hard
because I have very specific career goals and I want
projects to come to life, but also thinking all the
time the stress is gonna kill me. Man, this is

(16:58):
not good work life balance. You're a workaholic. This is bad.
And I had a great therapist who started telling me
that there's no right path and one thing you could
try is thinking, what if you're not a workaholic, you
just like kick ass and are very highly accomplished. And man,
that's changed a lot for me and has not negated

(17:19):
my quest to attain more work life balance like I
thought it would. If that makes sense, So be kind yourself,
you know, like, accept yourself for what you are, try
and spin it in a positive light, and I think
you'll be able to see like you can make changes
more easily in your life. I'll have funny stuff to
say later. Sorry, no, no, but that's something like I

(17:41):
think is very important that I'm also just learning is
like that. I when I go into therapy specifically, I
tend to like pathologize things and be like, well, I'm said,
and therefore I'm depressed, and like, sometimes that's true, but
also like it's not. It's not always like the case
that it's a pathology. Sometimes you're just a person doing

(18:04):
your best. And yeah, I do like the radical self
acceptance of like this is I have. It's easy for
me to just strip the humanity from myself, for like
as recently as like ten minutes ago, where I'm just like, well,
what was I thinking? That? It is like, no, that
that was you. You were doing your best. You're continuing

(18:25):
to do your best. Just remind yourself that there's no
one way to navigate life. So it doesn't matter if
like your path is normal, it's your path, that's right. Yeah,
I think we get Yeah, I mean, I think the
biggest thing you gotta learn when you start therapy too
is just to stop comparing yourself to other people, are
comparing your path to others, because that's the most like,
the most violent act you can commit to your individuality

(18:48):
is to be like, why aren't I like this person
that I am not like? And I will torture myself
with this notion versus saying I am on a every
single part sin is doing something in their own way.
Not everyone's paths are going to look that way, and
to begin to put judgment on it. Yeah, it's it's
it can be a slippery slope, And I think, yeah,

(19:08):
that's that was the biggest thing I had to except
over the years of like trying to you know, get
into like working in media and just ship like that,
of thinking like, well, at this point you need to
be here or at this point you need to be
doing this when completely not realizing like my path here
like had a lot of winding like turns and things,
but they all literally add up to this moment actually,

(19:29):
because I thought being a lobbyist was a waste of time,
and now it's helped build like a foundation for a
lot of like my perspective even as a podcast host.
So you never know where life's gonna take you just
embrace it. Yeah, look at Christie, I'm a goose you
man ten years so they'll be our all our boss. Yeah,
I have to get wopple House tatted. I think one

(19:51):
of the biggest misconceptions, like just looking back on the
last twenty years of my life. Like one of the
biggest misconceptions is that it's like too late to do
anything where that like it worth it to like compare
yourself to other people and be like, well, just you know,
like at this, at this age, I'm too late to
like branch out into this thing. And it's like, no,
it's it's not true. Yeah, plenty plenty of people switch

(20:15):
careers like midlife or you know what when you hear
twenty like twenty seven year old to be like, I'm
so old, I can't like it's too late. Like you're
just like yo, man, you're like you feel bad, then
I should have been the most depressed asshole of your
if you think you should have been doing all this,

(20:36):
I yeah, exactly. All right, let's take a quick break
and we'll be right back. And we're back. And I
saw a couple of headlines about this, but Miles, you

(20:57):
you dug in a little bit more. The Texas State
GOP met for their convention and then like had a
you know, family meeting and decided we're we're going to
be the worst as a family. Let's come together at
this summit and just truly embody everything that is wrong
with this country. We want to make this our platform

(21:19):
and they I mean this their new party platform that
they just ratified. It looks like a Maga value menu.
It's like, it's all kinds of nonsense. One of the
first things, like a lot of things got headlines. But
we'll get the thing that I'm probably that I imagine
most people like I think this is more about this
other point. But a lot of things got headlines because
it was the most homophobic, gun loving, ridiculous backwards should ever. First,

(21:43):
they want to want to set a requirement for Texas
students to quote learn about the humanity of the preborn child,
including teaching that life begins at fertilization and requiring kids
listen to live ultrasounds of just dating fetuses. Uh, let's see.
They also wanted us move the legislator's power to quote
regulate the wearing of arms with a view to prevent crime. Okay,

(22:06):
so don't try and control the guns, because if we
just have more loose guns out there, the better, I'd imagine,
is what they're saying. They're also this is this is
when that got a lot of headlines. Treating homosexuality is
quote an abnormal lifestyle choice. This isn't anything that has
been in the platform. This is this is new, because

(22:27):
it seemed like at a certain point they had at
least been like, all right, we lost that battle. There's
no there's no point in trying to keep pushing back.
But as we've seen, homophobia is back and kicking. Then
also deeming gender identity disorder quote a genuine and extremely
rare mental health conditions and then trying to obviously punish

(22:48):
people who are you know, trying to attain gender affirming
surgery or helping people seek that. Another one is the
ensuring quote freedom to travel by opposing Biden's Clean energy
plan and California style anti driver policies, which basically says
you're not going to turn a traffic lane into something
pedestrians or cyclists or mass transit can use. These big

(23:11):
gas rows are for our trucks. They want to also
look that there's every job is essential business, because that's
a pushback against COVID nineteen mandates, abolishing the Federal Reserve,
the nation's central bank, and guaranteeing their right to use
alternatives to cash, including cryptocurrencies, just for good measures. Yeah,

(23:33):
they really hit all the oh yeah, and this is
all like in a way that this goes on the
fact that they said Biden is also not the legitimate president,
that they would vote on secession in three and you know,
I'm that's always I mean, Texas always loves to talk
about secession until their fucking privatized electrical grid takes a

(23:53):
ship and then they're like, please federal money. So this
is this is like a pretty normal and forth flow
of dumb ideas. But when you look at all this stuff,
it's so like it's provocative, hateful ship that a lot
of people are like, I think it may be the
part where they buried it, the trying to repeal the

(24:15):
Voting Rights Act of that might be the thing they're
looking for. Really, that's what they're more most interested in
as a party, because then they can fully just discriminate
against whoever the funk they want to to negate votes
and fully have a lock on that process. So I
think with all that stuff, it's like most bills that

(24:36):
you see the GEOP put forward, they put together the
most fucked up version just to dial it back to
fucked up. But even then that's like breaking barriers of
like cruelty that we've you know, not seen before. So
it looks like that's a little bit of what's happening
with this new geop platform. But yeah, it's getting getting
tense over there in Texas. It seems just like making

(24:57):
children listen to ultras sounds live ultrasounds of fetuses like
is I don't know, it really has like some clockwork
orange mixed with I don't know, like a terror camp,
you know, like just a extremist training like grounds. I
don't know. It's very very uh like I'm just having

(25:21):
an art time in picturing like the people who are like, yep,
that is the country I want to live in, other
than like very very angry people who would get over
that and maybe five minutes later and be like okay,
but like that wouldn't actually be a good a good
place to live, right. Well. The whole thing is that
it's all of this stuff is said to reinforce their worldview,

(25:41):
which is we can do whatever we want, and we
can treat whoever we want however the funk we want to.
You're not gonna mandate like basic levels of treatment for
other people. That's not we like, we have this worldview.
It's not about freedom it's really the freedom to discriminate.
So that's really what they're marching towards constantly. And I
get that most people like do I want to live

(26:03):
in a place where you're saying, like, execute the parents
of lgbt Q youth, right, that's you want to see
that ship go down in your neighborhood. Who knows. But
the idea is to say this kind of incendiary ship
and be like, yeah, because that's what we're about. We
make other people panic. We're not panicked about our dwindling
maybe uh efficacy or potency as a white people in

(26:26):
the United States, because we can now just sort of
maindate all this other cruelty with a smile on our
face and say, well, that's not that doesn't touch us.
We just want to suck their party up. We want
to make their time as difficult as possible. And they
put it under the freedom of speech umbrella. Always it
feels like freedom of speech is now such a broad
brush that it's painted as like my ability to you know,

(26:47):
I don't want to give them cake now, I want
them round it up. I'm just talking. That's my freedom
of speech. And it's like a completely flexible definition that's
It's just interesting that it is always a strategy play right, Well,
I mean that's the heartening bit as you're like in
straight poles and if you just ask the average American,
I mean, do want parents of lgbt Q youth to

(27:08):
be like criminalized? They in a landslide. It's no, doesn't
largely affect me. But everything is a strategy you play.
They have so much leverage. There's this system that's allowed
for the ability of an extremist minority to hold everyone
else hostage. And we just sort of watch the train
barrel out of control and go like, I wonder if

(27:28):
the checks and balances will kick in at some point here. Yeah,
it's gonna get worse before it gets better. And I
think we're all like waiting to see is this the
last gasp of these hateful dinosaur people and and we
just survive it and they die off or something, or
is this the new norm? Like is this an in transition?
In transition like intracticable things. I think like we always

(27:51):
say like extremism is always going to exist where inequality
just remains ramps because it offers a very tidy perspective
or worldview as to like why you may be experiencing
a lack that you might not be able to articulate,
but you know is there, and based on everybody else
who looks like you and your community is like kind
of like sort of marching to this other beat. They're like, yeah, yeah, yeah,

(28:14):
it's that, it's that, it's that. It's uh, it's drag
queens and the libraries. And because we're trained to value
like or to measure our achievement by like financial status
and compare ourselves to others, you always have that deep
down feeling where it's like, what's got to be some
other category of people are sucking me up, Like my
my privileges are diminishing. That has to mean something someone else's,

(28:38):
you know, they should just yeah, look at the billionaire class.
It's like, yeah, they're wages because they stole all your money.
They have they have your bag bag over there. They
made everybody a bag holder. I don't know, maybe Okay,
you're into crypto, you get crypt remember bag holders. Yeah,
so that's what they're doing to every body. And we're

(29:01):
over here pointing picked pointing fingers at the wrong fucking
people because that's the biggest fear is that they realize
people who control all the capital or like they're gonna
realize where the architects of their suffering and not immigrants
or the rights of gay people, right, And the billionaires
have massive amounts of money to spend on branding, right,

(29:21):
So like that's I think why like in in the
mainstream like that is like it's become clearer and clear
to me and like this kind of ties into the
next story. But that that the mainstream media is like
complicit in this, right, Like they're yeah, you know you

(29:43):
think of like the companies that move mountains of money,
like even like black Rock, and they have their hands
and media twos like they're gonna start turning up on
like like what the real issues are. No, that's just
for it, like not on the real TV. Like Crystal
Ball was on Bill Maher this weekend and she was
trying to be like, man, you guys are talking a
bunch of weird in fact like fallacy type ship and

(30:06):
like he got so piste. Yeah of course, because she's like, man,
you're really gonna blame inflation on like supporting poor people.
It's like yeah, because Biden decided to make all his
money and it's like him and this other tired as
like a conservative and it you could just tell that
it was like it was wearing him down, and like
there's a lot of tweets about it, where like past
guests I've felt, I've been said, like when you go

(30:29):
on that show, do not push back against Bill Maher
because he doesn't like when people are, you know, thinking
for themselves out loud on that show. But just to
give you a little bit of insight into like the
tone of this GOP little get together in Texas, just
saying Okay, it's we fully come to the clowns have
taken over the circus tent like point obviously because the

(30:50):
moment they, you know, the GOP embraced Donald Trump, it's like, okay,
there's no turning back from this now because you have
fully opened the gates. Um John Cornyn, who gave like
some closing remarks at this thing, who normally says some
of the dumbest ship you've ever heard that would delight
MAGA people, he got fucking booed when he was giving

(31:11):
his closing remarks. You want to know why because he
kind of half said, yeah, I might support that very
tepid gun control bill because of the terrific mass shooting
that happened in my state. I just want you to
hear him try and speak and him getting shouted at.
So let's take our country back starting with converence. Thank

(31:32):
you God, bless God, our great sight. That's cordinate, okay,
your Senator. And then you know they weren't even feeling
fucking when poor Ted cruises just behind when up there

(31:54):
they were also he was getting smoked. Dan Crenshaw was
getting fucking harassed by proud boys, I guess. So now
you know it's completely they're there. You're starting to see
them lose control and they go get become further and
further extreme. And the funked up part and all of
this now is that like, as this is happening, Democrats
are pouring money into races to elevate the extremist MAGA

(32:16):
candidates because they think it's gonna be easier for them
to win. But what they're doing is just there's just
further entrenching this ship into the GOP by by even
like by spending money to even mention these people on
TV because their whole things like, well, we're not going
to challenge our own beliefs on governance so just be like, yo,

(32:36):
platform the fucking undesirables and then we don't have to
do nothing. Uh. And it's a very, like you said,
very messy road to this this midterm and when you
look at everything combined, Yeah, I mean the two threads
pulling on me obviously are like politically, you know, just
understanding the frustration with like the mainstream like the mainstream Democrats,

(32:59):
the Biden administration, like recognizing that there is no energy
for that, there's no future for that solution, but also
being like scared of this ship. And yeah, I don't
know it. I would say it like feels like a
false dichotomy. But like we we saw in the last

(33:21):
election that like the things are so stacked in the
favor of like the mainstream Democratic answer that like it.
It doesn't feel like there's a short term fix where
suddenly like people are like it. It feels like it's
the mainstream Democratic party or this like super far right
extremist option which is more well developed than the left,

(33:46):
more realistic option that I think would have more energy
if the mainstream media was willing to acknowledge it. But
that kind of ties into the next story, which like
based on the mainstream media news coverage after er the
l A Democratic primary a couple of weeks back, you
would have thought the population of l A had just

(34:07):
like gone all the way into the right. From the
New York Times, the quote paper of record, Progressive Democrats
were knocked on the defensive in their own party over
crime and homelessness on Wednesday, after voters into high profile
California races delivered a stark warning about the potency of
law and order as a political message. In two and

(34:28):
they were talking about the Caruso like that. You know,
they had basically basically called that election for Caruso, Like
they I think acknowledged it was going to be a runoff,
but they were like he he won out. And you know,
it's just generally like a movement to the right of
voters in Los Angeles. And then like and there, I've

(34:50):
been trying to figure out, like what actually happened, just
like actual results from some of the progressive candidates that
I voted for that I know people were supporting. We're
just people who I saw on billboards like around Los
Angeles who like put up things like here's what the
budgets actually like that this is an actual billboard on

(35:11):
Crenshaw in l A. It's like, here's what budgets actually
look like. And you know, it's just a bar graph
with like police spending, and it shows like how massive
police spending is compared to like all these other priorities
that you know, just like one piece of truth that
like could could reach people directly. And so finally we're

(35:33):
getting results in like not not the what what the
New York Times assumed was going to happen, but actual results,
and it is wildly successful for progressive candidates, like the
people who were putting out that information and being like,
just doubling down on funding the police is not is

(35:53):
not the answer. Those people had surprisingly a lot of success.
It's basically the exact opposite of what the New York
Times article has said. And that's not coming out in
the New York Times. That came out in a column
in the Los Angeles Times that was like, is l
a more progressive than San Francisco? Now, Like they that

(36:14):
was the angle they had to give it to make
it like an opinion piece. But it's the only place
in the mainstream where I was seeing coverage of these facts,
like I'll just read directly from it. In an election
year supposedly defined by the public's anxiety over rising crime
and diminishing law enforcement, Los Angeles is on the verge
of electing its first abolitionist city council member. Um. It's

(36:40):
it's all part of what the thirty two year old
community activists calls a tidal wave of progressiveness that's washing
over l a Um. Elsewhere on the East Side, labor
organizer Hugo Soto Martinez, who campaigned on having fewer cops
and repealing the law that allows the city to remove
homeless encampments, has pulled ahead of incumbent City County sleman

(37:00):
Mitchell Ferrell in District thirteen, and Karen Bass just pulled
ahead of Carusa, the person that everybody was like fawning
over and was like, this is proof that the Democrats
are fucked in the election and two mid terms. So
it's basically the exact opposite of the story that the
mainstream media was telling in the run up to the

(37:21):
election and the immediate aftermath. But no, now they have
just stopped talking about it. It's like, you know, this
is I think us running into again the most insidious
but also like effective way that progressive energy and politics
are opposed, which is depriving them of any oxygen in

(37:43):
any of the mainstream sources, uh, that we're taught are
like both um, the only option for fact checked information.
And also we're taught that they are like left leaning
um and like liberal and like not neither of those
in case, but like that that really puts us in
a precarious position where we have this one option that

(38:07):
is kind of well founded that we heard from in
Texas that are like well formed, I guess where they
have all the talking points, they have ways of getting
the information out. They have like these national figures who
have all you know, have ways of reaching people, um,
who are saying funk the mainstream and like the way

(38:29):
that this country has been run. And then we have
these candidates who are to the left of what the
mainstream has been and like the you know, complicity and
all the Wall Street thievery and bullshit that has gone on,
and they are not allowed to like they they will
not be acknowledged in the mainstream conversation. Yeah, yeah, it's

(38:53):
h it's it's a tidy way of keeping people from
having multiple forms of analyzing what's happening. There's an I
feel like it's like a New Republic or the Atlantic today.
I forget one of the two. There's like this article
that was like liberals are actually ignoring these crime waves
and it was like another thing trying to pop up
those fucked up New York Times articles where they're like

(39:14):
these are like the sourcing although there is some like
editorial like editorializing happening are like pretty good. They're well sourced,
like because it's you're not even questioning the fact that
they're like according to my cop friend who hates the poor,
and we're it's it's just a very interesting thing to
even come watched. Even see now the media come out

(39:34):
to sort of push back against like a thing that
they've been hearing. It's like I hear people are taking
shots that like the the the idea that maybe the
police and look local news are really amplifying this crime thing,
and they're like, but that's where they're after they created
some term for like like it's not anecdotal but antich resort,
I don't know, some nonsense thing um all to say

(39:57):
that it's like but yeah, here's the deal. It's really
bad and uh, you know the d A Larry Krasner
in Philly. I mean he's he's cantankerous. M hm. Oh,
you can't use a strong word like that without backup,
you know, backing it up with lots of stats. So yeah,
well but and I but I guess it. It does
reveal this whole thing where it's like it sounds like
the thrust of the pieces, like yeah, and those das

(40:18):
were bad. So it is. It is. It is an
odd place we find ourselves in, constantly sweet grapple, with
many kinds of messaging around what is or is not
actually happening around us, and what is or is not
even claimed by each team, Like it's wild to that
that the mask mandate is even in the plant. I mean,

(40:41):
I understand why it is, because I'm in the pot
like a frog being boiled, and I get it, like
I've been around. But I'm just imagining someone dropping to
the sky from like the eighteen hundreds and trying to explain,
why are you wearing a mask? Oh, there's a disease
like the plague if you're familiar with from your time. Oh, okay,
we'll all wear a mask. Two. Oh, so you're like

(41:04):
a liberal type of peasant from the medieval times, you know, like,
it's wild to me that that even indicates that and
then the same token, I think a medieval person would
honestly be flabber gases to come to the year two
and see all this miraculous technology and see that when
someone like goes against social moras, we still break out

(41:26):
chains and cages and weapons, and that's we haven't thought
of anything better. That's just wild to me. Yeah, well
it's good, good pr for the chains, cages and weapons.
Proud Yeah, big chain, weapons, big big chain is Yeah,
they're crushing in the messaging department. And I think that's why,
because we're we consumed just NonStop propaganda all day throughout

(41:52):
most of our lives in the United States. And then
you're like, how come like we can't come up with
the actual good solution to problems. Well, and it's the
physical instant creation of the internet, uh interaction that everyone
hates most, which is when someone says some something truly
hateful or despicable and you actually reveal that you've been upset,

(42:12):
and they go, oh are you mad? You've lost the argument? Like,
we as a society are doing that to our people.
We send in like this person who's trained to and
equipped to escalate a situation. Situations get out of control,
and then we cite those stats as why we need
those people. It makes It's never made sense, and it

(42:35):
still doesn't. Yeah, it's just a cycle that has to
be broken. We've talked about there. There's this thing idea
in uh, this essay. I can tolerate anything except the
out group that talks about how like each class is
only aware of the class directly above them and the
class directly below them, and they're taught to like hate
both of them for like different reasons. Of the class

(42:58):
the group directly above them is like, you know, holding
them down. In the group directly below them, like you're
allowed to look down on and therefore, by by extension,
nobody really hates or like picks up any animus towards
the people who are actually billionaires and are actually like

(43:18):
you know, controlling things like we They are essentially mythical figures,
are insulated by the very fact that you can't even
comprehend how much money they have exactly. But I think
like this, the way that the media is covering the
this guy spending how much did Cruso spend on his

(43:40):
election yeah, so like so many millions of dollars to
run and come in like a distant second for for
mayor UM in Los Angeles, and the media is covering
it as like a wake up call and not covering
any of the actual like populist energy on the ground

(44:00):
for um. You know, things that are outside of like
the moneyed interests in the way the way that money,
money and interests prefer politics were on like that, it
feels like a fixable problem. It doesn't feel like it's
a limit of human imagination. It does feel like it's
a limit of our media and how our media has

(44:20):
always been viable, you know, like you can like Jeff Bezos,
like the richest human maybe in the history of the world,
owns the Washington Post. Um. You know, Elon Musk is
on the verge of acquiring Twitter like that, and that
I think one of when we had like some kind
of centrist progressives on, they were like that's always been

(44:43):
the case, like that, there's always been really wealthy people,
and it's like, yeah, but that's a bad thing because
they are controlling how things are messaged, and like it's
it's net We're never going to like get past this
inability to like see how things at actually run and
like not be crabs in a bucket? Who are you know,

(45:04):
always just pulling, like fighting amongst ourselves If we don't
have like an actual honest media, that isn't that isn't
you know owned by wealthy interests, are funded exclusively by
wealthy interests. Make your family listen to the Daily Sigeist.
This is what I'm saying, Michael, thank you for why

(45:25):
I see you've read ahead to our final point on
you're all responsible for indoctrinating five people. But first, this
message from big chain, big chain. I find my truest
freedom of speech on parlor. Come to parlor. I uh,
you know I only buy my big chains at a

(45:46):
big chain store. That is big chain, big chain. That's
where you buy your big chains at a chain store,
national chain. You got to make sure you're supporting big
chains in the big chain business. All right, let's take
a quick break. We'll be right back. And we're back

(46:13):
and let's talk about what's the mirth murf. It's time
time to talk to so we except clowns, sentient domen
you know, fake military officers who were racists and you know,

(46:34):
as brand mascots. I'm talking about, like the animals happily
eating themselves like a pig cook and bacon. Well, we're
fine with that, I mean we we practically demand it
make us feel okay about eating bacon. But people seem
to be pretty unnerved by a new They're unnerved by Murf,

(46:55):
the new nerve spokes being. Yeah, so it's an anthropomorphic
amalgam of ten thousand NERF darts with the ability to
run and shoot a NERF gun despite a lack of
anything resembling a face or eyes or any sensory inputs. Um. Yeah,
he looks like a like a like those videos you

(47:18):
see like neglected poodles that like came in off the
street and they're like in their hair matted they couldn't
even see. That's what Mirf looks like. A matted dog
who can't even see, like or one of those sheep
that needed shave. Merf down bad FORRF sound good? Oh God,
reveal the truittious nature of Mirf. Underneath is pritty underneath.

(47:41):
That's the worst part shave if you just get gritty. Yeah,
gritty is is who it made me think of. I'd
like to see a combination like one big gritty I
patches of fur in between coming out the darts, right, yeah,
point of order. Those are not darts, right, they're just Nerf?
Are they darts? Do they have tips? Oh? They have

(48:02):
suction cup tips. That's even how they're stuck, right because
I'm imain no the tips face out. It looks like
so like if he touches you, you're getting that. It's
not Nerfy. It's like octopus. Yeah, he could get stuck
to you. Yeah, you're getting section cups. Bro, I'm not
a fan. You just find NERF stuck to like some

(48:24):
piece of glass somewhere in a city, like, kill me,
murph uses your bathroom. That's just like thirty darts stuck. Yeah.
But since nineteen sixty nine, NERF has never had a mascot,
and they're like, we're doing it. That tradition ends now
they unveiled Murf. People like some of the headlines, Sorry, Nerf,

(48:48):
but your new mascot is terrifying. NERF fund veils and
mascot made of ten thousand NERF darts and people are terrified.
And then quote a social media posts that says kill it,
nurse new mascot Murf will talk your nightmares. So they've
also announced that murph uses they them pronouns, which I
do think this is frankly cheapens the whole thing, Like,

(49:13):
this is another way that progressive values, like what's that, Yeah,
right now it makes sense unveiled during Pride, You're like,
you're you're like, fuck uh that could look selfish as
a company them. Yeah, the whole way that like progressive
ideas get adopted by like marketers, like probably almost definitely

(49:35):
like white guys in their forties and fifties who are
just like parenting back, mostly overpaid to come up with MURF. Also,
you know see for many fiscal cours, hundreds of millions
of dollars were spent on MURF and it's just some
outsider persons, like you know, loose bad misunderstanding of the

(49:57):
intention of of those values. But like when when they're
made into like and murph uses they then pronouns, it
becomes a meme and it becomes like a thing, an
easy thing for um kids and then conservatives to like
just dismiss, which is and also an easy thing for

(50:20):
to make Joe Biden feel good about the job he's doing,
as we saw on one of the Jimmy's Kimmel I
think it was. He was like, what, why are you
so fucking optimistic? Joe Biden Man, you see Murphy? Did
you see them in that commercial? Right? Like Jesus Joe.
And this also comes at a time where many people

(50:42):
in the ZBTQ community are wondering what the funk are
Democrats even doing right now? This has been a full
on assault from the right and well, we got MRF,
that's it. Where's the fucking where's the Department of Education
having some kind of like real, like forceful opinion on
what's happening or anything like that. A lot of the

(51:03):
times people like all we get is just like empty platitudes,
and you know, these new fucking sports or these toy
mascots being like and here's a little crumb for this community,
because imagine if if Murph came out in twenty the
summer or fall of could you imagine could you imagine

(51:25):
like his his his nerf darts make like dreadlocks or
some ship. Yeah, because that was like, it's the same
same lack of awareness of just people just thinking progress
means I just put a sticker on something or a
logo on something, or I change the appearance of my logo,

(51:45):
rather than there is there's there are. There are groups
of people experiencing untold levels of oppression, and I'm here
to stand directly beside them saying I am an ally
in this fight, rather being like, hey, man, if you
buy this, we get it enough that we will just
outwardly say we're on the right side of the conversation
and that we really don't give a funk, because basically

(52:08):
the message yeah, Merph looks like if you frightened him,
he'd shoot darts in all directions, right, or if he
climaxed orxed. Yeah, I'm sorry, Yeah, don't get into the
mirf born Now. It's problem on Mini Dolly already that

(52:29):
a I think also that effect is a complete rip off,
incidentally of a fabulous major laser music video lighted up.
So it's a failure on every level. But we've talked
before about how militarized NERF guns have become. They're essentially
candy colored like replica firearms, which gun manufacturers in the

(52:49):
n r A are like off the record, but have
been quoted as being like, we are eager to see
these in the hands of kids, to wean them into
gun ownership. Really, Oh, I didn't know it was that conscious. Yeah,
nerf guns are actually used in school shooting drills for teachers,
not by any like mandate, but because yeah, they're the

(53:10):
closest safe alternative. And it's so you're basically saying it's
a practice gun, right. The whole idea now of like
you know, when I was a kid, I played Cops
and robbers with guns and fake guns and like cap
guns and ship. The whole idea now of giving kids

(53:30):
toy guns is becoming weirder and weirder and more and
morbid and perverse, Like, yeah, it's wild. Man. I had
one of my classmates their mom was an epidemiologist and
like this is an elementary school. Her whole work was
devoted to getting toy guns out of kids hands because
of like even in like the eighties, and there are

(53:51):
people like people mistaking kids are having guns being real
guns and getting shot and things like that, and just
generally like what it does to like sort of for
or this thing. And I remember at the time, we're like, man,
you know his mom doesn't let him play with any
of the cool ship and you're like, your mom is
from the future. Well, and I'm not even say because
I'm a big like violent video games are fine by

(54:13):
me guy, and I can like get into the details
of that. But I'm just saying not even from the
kid's perspectives. Believe me, I love nerve for. Like every
birthday party when I was seven eight nine was nerve
for and I get the thrill and the fun of
like paintball and all these things. It's just I'm just
saying as an adult now, like if I had a
birthday party and saw all my kids and their friends

(54:33):
shooting nerf guns at each other, there's no way I'm
not excusing myself to the bathroom like cry, Like there's
only one thing that makes me think of now and
I didn't disturbed are like equivalent, Like the most lit
thing you can have is what maybe a super soaker
like two fifty Yeah, Like the like wasn't the o
g like Neon green one that we all had where

(54:55):
you drink the water out of it tastes terrible or
the bad fact that shoots a thousand balls and then
gotta pack it up. For like there was ball Zuka.
I remember we had ball Zuka and that ship wasn't
like launching it like it was basically as strong as
you were. You can get the ball Zuka to shoot
it out, but the ultimator can cuss you. Yeah. Well
yeah see I missed Ultimator by about three years. And

(55:16):
now I see videos of like dads who are like
dressed up who are like military guys who are dressed
up in tact gear like playing with their like NERF guns.
Like there's this one video on Reddit of this dad
who's clearly some kind of like you know, military operator
comes in and clears, like clears the room like tactically
with a NERF gun, like throws in like a NERF

(55:39):
grint flash bang, and then he's you know, he's like
cutting the pie like by coming in at an angle
like like his entry point. He's like double tapping his
kid in the chest and like his other kid, and
you're like, what God, that's actually the origin story of
MRF is Murph was one of the children that was

(56:00):
taken down in that raid and has come back as
an uber being vengeance. They rolled out in the coming years.
I mean, but it does feel like that that queasiness
is there constantly for all parents in America, and it's

(56:22):
i'd be surprised if it is a complete coincidence and
we'll never see this because like the the documents around
a marketing campaign are typically protected, like the you know,
jfk assassination documents. But like, there's no way it's a
complete coincidence that as things become weirder and weirder, and

(56:43):
as the idea of giving children like candy colored a
rs to like run around and play with becomes more
just overtly strange, they are making a change to like
a cuddly spokes being that he's made of bullets, is

(57:03):
made of like soft fun bullets instead of you know,
anyway you put it that way. Yeah, that's imagine that
a character made of like fucking you know, seven six
two rounds and you're just like hey, right, and you're like,
what the fund is this? And they're all pointed outward? Okay? Yeah,

(57:24):
as as as if to say, fire wildly in all directions,
that's our that's our method. Right. It looks from a distance,
MRF looks like they're made of like cush material. I
thought it was like a cush mascot, not a NERF Matt.
Yeah I did too. Also, why is NERF Murph got
to have that. Why they got to have that, like
big chain on like they're a rapper. Yeah, there is

(57:48):
the gold chain. It's like a big Nerf place, big
Nerf piece, chest piece. Okay, let's not keep mine on
you nerf mm hmm. All right, well you know, keep
your eyes appealed for our new future overlord. Yeah, I
mean the murf memes that are going to be baby

(58:09):
Peanut and all that. Yeah right, Baby Peanut was one
that I should have mentioned up top of like the
things spokesmascots were willing to get on board with because
it's like, you know, in an overtly like Christian America,
like you know where the mainstream is like very protective
and being like one nation under God. They were like, okay,

(58:31):
but this is a mascot where like that dies and
immediately reproduces as a baby that it looks like the
previous one. So like very very strange metaphysical ideas being presented,
and we're like, yeah, okay, that's Super Bowl commercial. It's fun,
all good, all good, but not but fun. This murf stuff.

(58:53):
Michael Swain truly a pleasure as always having you, Where
can people find you? Follow you? All that stuff Oh well,
I made sure to be extra plug heavy this time.
But in case you missed it, I'm at Swain Underscore Corp.
On Twitter and my new show If you Like video
Games at All? With At the Real Gains as my
co host. We do a little show called One Upsmanship

(59:15):
that's One ups men Ship, and I sincerely hope you'll
check it out. Yeah, that's great. Is there a tweet
or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying? Oh? Yeah, yeah,
I got two tweets another post mascot. I got one
from Daddy at Gritzy Ross, who says I barely play
video games, but I like at Swain Corp. And at

(59:37):
the Real Gangs from their crack day. So I checked
out One Upsmanship pod just to see and it's phenomenal.
And that's my last plug, I swear. A tweet that's
funny that I like is from at the Nate Wolf,
who wrote, do you think I referenced dinosaurs too much?
When I write? I asked, she was silent like the
p and terot actyl, But it's said everything. I enjoyed

(01:00:00):
that quite a bit. That's so good. Uh, people find you?
What is the tweet you've been enjoying. Find me on
Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. Check out the
new podcast Lords of Soccer, show I helped produce on
I Heart talking about the corruption at FIFA, the governing
body of global soccer. The reason why we're not watching

(01:00:21):
the World Cup right now is because FIFA just sells
the tournament to the highest bidder. Uh. And so it's
a really wonderful show that just came out, So I
encourage you to check that out. Obviously, mad boost these
or the next episode, Jack and I will finally be
talking about the I guess the finals concluded our thoughts
on that and for to day Fiance. Uh. The other podcast,

(01:00:42):
see Let's see a tweet that I like. First one
is from Divine at she Love Yai y a r
I I said, first two drinks don't count if you
have anxiety. They just turned you into a normal person.
And that tweet was blown up over the weekend. Yeah.
I used to take a few real big stress gulps
at the beginning of a social affair. And then another

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one Sarah Lazarus Sarah Lazarus at Sarah See Lazarus tweeted,
did I quote kill a plant? Or did the plant
not have what it takes to thrive in this fast
paced environment. And I think that's a very good way
to class instant classics. And you can find me on
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which is an official NBA podcast where they have officially
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players that they employ, they can officially endorse the Miles
and I have mad boosts. We can jump very high.
I used to be able to get net. I think
that's all you need to know. Oh man, I try
grabbing ram. I think I blew my my index? Did you?
I haven't been on a basketball court like five years,

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and I grossly overestimated work that has been calculated, decision
by by the way, I just don't want to go
We gotta do it. We gotta go live on I
g and just do a quick gym shoot around for
people to see. People see what that trying to be like,
You guys need to settle it on the court. It'll

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be like when Corey Booker went on Jesus and Marrow.
I didn't see that one. Never watch people play basketball.
You're not used to see play basketball tweet. I've been
enjoying Lynn Yard again tweeted, love the deli papers on
the doctor's table, I'm a sick little sandwich. And then

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this one. I don't I didn't wanna like start beef,
but pizza bit tweeted. My boyfriend's always talking about how
the world needs a larger being that can be sliced
like a steak. I don't know, Michael, I think any
number of looney twans would beg to disagree. I mean,
you can already slice beans transparent if you bad enough,

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like if you're really hungry. Yeah. Yeah, I'd urged this
person to, you know, just focus more on beans, work
beans into their lifestyle, get to know beans, and get
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as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles,
what song do we think people might enjoy? Okay, so
this is a new band again. I love hearing music
where I'm like, is this from now or from back then? Uh.

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They're called dina Ogan and there's a boom lot over
the oh so d I N A O G O
N And this track is called Tombola ninety four t
O M B O l A And they're like this
Swedish group that is like getting very into retro style.
So I think they were kind of describing themselves like
if you like Eric being I Rock, Kim and krum

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Band and like a few other bands. I'm like, these
are all great things to say you're influenced by. It's
just really kind of like this, you know, like look
into the past with modern eyes, which is one of
my favorite genres. I'd love to see people kind of
playing with all the different textures. So check this that
song out, Tombola by Dina Olga or Ergon, We'll go

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