New Kanye Fans, Senate Slippin? 10.30.19

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season one or six,
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It's Wednesday, October two thousand nineteen. My name is Jack

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Brutus everywhere and everywhere, Dollan everywhere. We heard you, mayor Rudy,
hang up your phone, quit the foolery with the Ukraine
for about a month or two. Got your hands on
them crimes board. Now you screwed. I could keep going,
but I messed up the cadus And that's okay because
we keep it moving. We're all professionals here ra amateur
rappers as well. That's what podcasting is about. Thank you

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to act Chrispy Meme donut for that one. Miss new Booty,
as we all know, thank you for reminding them that
I'm not a professional rapper, because I know that can
be confusing. Well sometimes you hear my, Yeah, people will
be holding us to different standards. And yes, I almost
became a Japanese crossover hit sensation rapping in the late nineties,
but I decided to turn my back on that. So

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I would have been interested. It would have been with lights.
They were literally like, you're half black and half Japanese.
You could be selling records. And I said, what's the
check look like? And it was too late? Is that true? Um? Yeah,
except for the check party. Well, I didn't walk away.
The check was light. And then I was like, I
don't know if I want to do this because they

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were making like singing dancing ship and I felt like
I was doing some real like really their videos that
don't know, you'll never see that good left finding it
because I never did. It's only weird ship in a
meeting room. WI executive. Oh my god, that sounds like
a nightmare. They're just looking at you like kind of
wedding their lips. Yeah, And I think I was wearing

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a Dana Barrows Celtics jersey. I think it was on
time ship. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in
our third seat by the hilarious and talented PS. What man,
I want to come in with a rap too. You

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know I released I had a rap song I did
thirteen fourteen years ago in Florida. So I'm going to
see if I can remember that. Okay, rebel and my glory.
I'm a legend of a story. You would hated, you
adore me. I'm hot, got your horny coming later. It
ut before me, come and eat it. You'll enjoy me.
And I don't remember the rest. I don't remember the rest,
but this is like coming on some empirical lyrical miracle. Yeah,

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that's not bad. Respect my ass and let do what
I want. You do what you can. I want to
flaunt you flat with your rent your credits Ald Banca, dude, Okay,
I forgot that's good. What was your MC name? Um
Big Fizzman Dingo? Wow? Hell yeah? Let them know. Yeah,
damn if they happened. What happened? The specificity of talking

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about there, it was renting their ship. It was more
of a hobby for me. I had an opportunity in college,
and I had a friend, like I had friends who
were in the music program who wasn't who wasn't a
rapper in college, you know what I mean? And so
it was just like at an opportunity I wanted to write.
I did, like some poetry before spoken word, funny like
funny poetry. That's how I sort of got into comedy

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kind of like in college any time there was sort
of like a platform to perform. Yeah, it was sort
of like a way, you know, to So there weren't
Japanese business interests writing on you becoming a rapper like
the formula not at the time, but to approached me today,
Money's right, price is right, I just might I'm quoting Trina.

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There you go. That was Yeah, that was impressive. Uh
yeah I didn't just suck horribly, did I? I have
no gauge of like that. I was impressive? Is like,
oh did it suck? Uh? Like it? But what about you? Hey?

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He but he flocks with Wu tang though, So take
that with a yeah, yeah, the resides in everybody knows. Yeah, alright,
we're going to get to know you a little bit better. Inn. First,
we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things. We're

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talking about. Kanye is reaching a new fan base. We're
going to talk about who they are. We're going to
talk to Hayes Brown, who is the host of BuzzFeed
News is new Impeachment Today podcast about Impeachment Today. What's
going on with teachment Uh and the whistleblower scandal. Uh.

(05:04):
We need to come up with like an impeachment drop
so that we don't have to keep referring back. Maybe Yeah,
we'll work on it, guys. Uh, We're gonna talk about
the latest witness in the closed door impeachment proceedings. We're
gonna talk about Katie Hill resigning. Uh. We're gonna talk

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about California burning. Uh, Kanye being like gone in California burning.
I'm telling you man, Uh, we need now. Lana del
Rey was on it with that Greatest Songs. She references
both those things a little inside reference for the Lana
heads out there, the del Ramiacs, Maniacs, the del Raiders. Yeah,

(05:54):
we're gonna nights and also the most fucked Halloween deck rations.
We're gonna check in with those. But first, physic we
like to task our guests what is something from your
search history that is revealing about who you are? UM
FedEx office near me. I don't have a printer, telling
nobody does. How many people? It's weird once you get

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done with college. Right, that was the last time I
was like, I need a fucking printer. I don't have
good luck with printers, like I swear, like they always
just they don't work. Right. I got a printer and
it stopped working, and I'm like, I can't do this,
and you're like I don't want to deal with it. Yeah,
I just it was Amazon Prime. So I just said
that today's billion dollar idea because we always just given
these out on the daily's like Uber printers, you know,

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that's that's yea we do. It's called Homie with a printer.
What you do is you pull up the pull up
the app, and you look for the homie with the printer.
You email the very. It's a very. It's an encrypted
attachment so they can't duplicated. Well, it's gonna get weird
because invest or something. Yeah. Yeah, we're still in our

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first round. Hit uh and it's going to be quarter owners.
Yeah yeah, we're like okay for funding. We have a
hundred dollars we're looking for. We're looking for a million
dollar investment for a one percent stake in our company.

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Like this is a hundred million dollar company. Yes, well
it's called Homie with a printer. You every day somebody
with a printer just for the printer. I didn't full disclosure,
I never dated this person for the printer. I thought
about going on another date with because they had a
full on office section of their apartment that you had
already installed on your computer. So like, what is that? Yeah,

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I'm gonna put that put that printing driver on my
computer connected to the WiFi automatically. My wife is a
printer queen. She makes sure that we always have a
printer going. That's that's a keeper. That's why I'm not
saying that's actually why I married her. But you know,
if this gives me to something about picture, I'm gonna
tell my partner her majesty and be like, you know,
you know, jack, wife got a printer here, single at

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FedEx office getting hit on by when the text like
you need hope to hit starts. I wish I got
attention from like someone who actually worked there. Yeah, you
start finessing it for some free printing. They're like, I
feel like we just go on these dates so you
can get like free printing at FedEx office. Becauesn't my
employee discount like no baby, but just yeah, because someone

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has to get off to it. It has to be
that someone has to be into it. I love printing
your ships. Some freaks in the world, and I don't
care what size attachments you're saying, I'll print everything you want.
The cold they didn't the pretty interesting. I feel like
more more products would have adopted the model where it's

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basically like gouging, where they're like, yeah, we give you
the printer for a good price, but then the ink
costs hundreds of dollars um. But you can um again
from Amazon. You can get off brand inc. But that's
only if you have a printer that works, right. Yeah, Yeah,
that's a good band Brand Inc. Yeah that sounds something
like a cool like it sounds like a band. Like

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there's Murder Inc. Or whatever brand there you go, what
is something you think is underrated? Oh I was, I
got him so off. I was gonna say murder like murder,
I need outsource for that. Anybody who wants printer cartridges
for a dollar dollar and this was like, Um, the

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DMX would be like, but it's not. What is something
you think is underrated? I think, um, honestly nuts as
snacks for busy people, Yeah, I mean at least for me.
For me, I think because like I don't know, like
I don't the chips or the receas, but like you

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know what, like sometimes you need a real meal. I'm
getting older. Like meal, like some nuts, like nut butters
and nuts and stuff. It's like a really efficient way
to it's efficient source of calories and they don't go bad.
You can put them anywhere. I found a loose almond
in my bag and I ate that ship. Don't judge me,
don't That's why your energy is off the walls right now.
You find out loose almond in your bag. No, someone

(10:24):
gave me cold brew. I've been up since four in
the morning. Yeah, I had to put an audition on
tape and get it in super early. But like, I know,
so they gave me cold brew. I didn't um put
any water in it. I just like, let me just
take it, let me the way the Lord intended. Yeah,
I'm cut, you know, sniff bass. Basically here I am
just just yeah. I was gonna say, God, but you

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have a lot of people we're all God. Yeah, I'm
telling people, you guys need to listen to what she
has to say about energy because she has a lot
of energy, a lot of energy. What's your favorite as
a meal? Um? I like cash shows they're luxurious, but
they're they're super luxurious. Um where you do yoga. She
has like a bunch of like little packets of nuts.

(11:08):
I just like you know, Snagger couple, the bet almonds
are the easy go to wait hold on. Cashes are
the best nut. I think. So is there a thing?
Not that I disagree, but I'm this is interesting thing.
See cash you hack you need to always get whole
cashoes because the broken up kind of like they really
break up a lot, Like get the whole salted. It

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doesn't matter where you get them from at that point,
and you're like them roasted. I just never had them
like on the raw. I do them raw sometimes. I
like all of them, but I think like it's it's
probably healthier if it's raw, right. I'd imagine like anything
like the heat or the roasting can put nutrients on.
I don't know that's what everyone's and then adding the
salt diamond flu diamond almonds. Holler at your boy because

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I will fucking I love your apartment, and like, you'll
never pass out while you're driving exactly is that you
should never? I'm worried about you. Did you drive here? Yeah, okay,
you wouldn't pass out though, No, definitely because I have
nuts they all thank god. Um. Yeah, did you know

(12:18):
that this is what cash look like in the wild? Yeah?
I saw that for the first time and I thought
it was a joke. It look like guava is taking
a ship and then it's like eat the ship. Yeah, ea, pop,
Is that considered a true nut? Then if if it's
coming from a tree, because a peanut I heard is
not considered like a true nut. I mean, I mean

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it does the same thing for me. So yeah, it's
a cash. You see the cash, you Apple, dwarf cash,
you profit. I'm just reading Wikipedia out loud. It's Wikipedia.
I don't know all entries written by a man named Rick.
There should be like a nut. P Yeah, what is
something you think is overrated? Dogma Dogma the movie? No,

(13:00):
the movie, but like Kevin Smith must overrated the portrayal
of the gold. Actually, you know what, I kind of
enjoyed the film. I think they could have gone further.
But when I say dogma, I mean like like rules
and regulations when it comes to spirituality, like this is right,
this is wrong, one size fits all, otherwise you're going
to hell. So anyway, like you know, to me, that's

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that's overrated. And like I'm not you know, I don't
really do organized religion, but I was raised Muslim. I'd
love to see like a Muslim perspective from like someone
who was raised this way, but like you know, doesn't
really sort of you know, align with organized religion. But um, yeah,
I actually went to Mecca Um in Saudi Arabia with

(13:45):
my parents because you know, I think they wanted, you know,
to save my soul or whatever. And um god, damn
empty ritual man, or you have to do this and
like I have a lot of baby hair, as you
can see, so you have to cover everything standard of
decency in Saudi Arabia and I'm not gonna like also
say Saudi Arabia and Islam are the same thing. It's like,

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but that's where yeah, well Saudi Arabia it's like it's running,
but you know it's it's the patriarchy, but like out
in the open with the American name brands. Yeah, exactly.
So um, you know, everyone was sort of like, oh,
your baby hair's falling out. Women would come up to me,
try to fix my thing, because you know, like it
was like forehead, those edges laid honey, No, you can't

(14:30):
have the edges. Lad you have a pull back. If
I have them laid on my forehead. Oh my god,
that's so scandalous. I might as well be walking around
with my titties out. What was the at what point
where you sort of as as a child, is that
when you sort of realize organized religion isn't for me,
because it's always interesting, Like I my parents weren't really religious,
my grandparents were, and I went to like Lutheran and

(14:51):
Catholic schools and at a certain point you kind of
like look around like I don't know if this is
for me, but I mean, what y'all are doing? I
think it was my first introduction to sort of like
a connection to like you know, that sort of energy.
But like so that part was cool, but like all
the rules, I know, I was like this is like
I don't want to like do this whatever, it bunched

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up against your like sort of spirit as like a
young teenager. But that was sort of my window to like,
you know, if you're like like really going through something,
you're just like, you know, you need you want to
reach out to something. That was sort of my window.
But I was like I was the kind of kid
who was like question everything because if it's the truth,
why not? Yeah? You know, so all right, Joe Rogan,

(15:33):
So you're Joe Rogan, get me all right? You know,
I'd love to of all the profound ship that you
just said. My question is baby hair? Those are the
little hairs come out wearing your hair is pulled back.
It's like these little hairs that just do not grow

(15:54):
any longer. You can sort of like comb down and
do like like Chili from um teals very she her
baby hair is just on point. Uh. And finally, what
is a myth? What's something people think is true you
know to be false. Well, as someone who was born
and raised in Florida, a lot of people think Florida's trash,
and I would like to pose it that that that's

(16:15):
everything is relative and it's not trash if you grew
up there, because there were moments of joy that I found.
And you know, if I couldn't move back, I don't
think except Miami. Miami doesn't count. Miami doesn't count in
terms of you could move back there back to Florida.
You have to in Miami. Are a strong swimmer. Yeah, okay,
because Miami's underwater. Yeah, in my lifetime underwear. And also

(16:46):
like um oh, like some people say Florida is not
the South, and again it's I think it is sort
of very much part of the South, like Georgia. Again
Miami being the exception. Miami's more South America. What's the
what's the most When you say, look, everything's relative, Florida's
trash could be, could not be, depends on your perspective.
To you, what is the most trash Florida thing you've

(17:08):
ever done? Oh, I've done a lot. Um, I've pee
on a car, a spite a car to an ex's car.
But he pushed me, so he had it coming. I'm
just like, wait, you pushed me. Um, some ladies saw me,
and I think she probably told him. Now I think
he lied about that, but I think some lady, a
neighbor did see me do it. Um, And I was

(17:30):
just like whatever, and you threaten her get back into
your house, and I actually ended up I was I
wasn't scared about him going to the police. I was
scared about him going to my parents. I was more
scared of my parents, Indian immigrant parents, like you know,
they're a little intimidating. So I ended up getting a
job at shrim shack, like a serving job, just to
give him cash to fix his car, and he never

(17:50):
did so then I guess, so maybe not Jay's I
don't know what the fun Yeah, I was gonna say
that idiot is, but I don't want I don't want
to talk bad about anyone. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. Look
if you see a pet cruiser with bitch carved in
the side in Florida, Yeah, right by the Addison mall.

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Yeah let him know. Yeah wait, so so you that's
so funny that you even handled it though, like such
an immigrant kid, like upstanding kid, where you're like, okay,
fun I can't. My parents are like I'll get a
fucking job to pay back. It wasn't even fuck you
tell my parents see what they fucking do. But you
knew that wasn't an option. I was like, tell the
cops you're yeah, I fill out an I nine and

(18:36):
ship like where my che I was like, I just
want my dad, like my parents know that I had
a boyfriend. Oh right, right right, And you're like, damn,
we're really fucking proud of you. You just out here
getting the job doingthing like you were motivated to. Like,
but they're like, where's all the money? Like how much

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money you think you gave this person? It was probably
a comaker dread at the time. I mean it was
like a long time ago, so I think like everything
was a little cheaper. I am, did you quit the
job after? No? I actually actually kept it for a
while because, um, I love I'm sort of like a
hustler by nature, and like as a server, it's very

(19:17):
much a sort of a hustle job. You know, you
sort of slang that shrimp exactly Like there's not really
a like a ceiling before you can make I love that. Yeah,
so you should be motivating everybody out here a limit
to what you can do with these And this is
like definitely cold brew talking. Also it's definitely sponsored by

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some someone's cold brew. Yeah. Yeah, Well you said about
Florida being like part Deep South, part like Miami actually
being part of South America. Is there's a Caribbean also. Yeah,
there's this book called the Eleven uh States of America
that like redraws the lines of America based on like
shared values and where settlers came from. And they said,

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that's exactly what they say, actually is that Miami, Miami
and New Orleans are the only parts of the country
that they like don't even identify with any other parts
of the country. They're just like, yeah, these are more
like they share their values and like how they vote
with other countries entirely. And it's those both cities are
both so vibrant, and there is you know, there is,

(20:21):
of course that southern fusion. Of course there is, but
like there's so much outside influence and diversity in both
cities Miami and New Orleans, which are both going to
be underwater. Right, So it's you know, let's let's all
take swimming lessons or you know, like get these people
to do the right thing by the environment. That would
be lovely. Yeah, good one, good one. All right, We're

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going to take a quick break and we'll be right back.
And we're back, and we have an expert guest of
first we're going to check in with We are joined

(21:08):
by Hayes Brown from BuzzFeed News. He is a senior
reporter and editor on the World Desk and the host
of the new Impeachment Today podcast. Heyes, how's it going, man?
Oh you know, tired? Yeah, exhausted. Yeah, kind of sad.
But how else do you expect to do the news? Yeah?

(21:29):
You guys are You guys have a new episode first
thing every morning. That's kind of updating people on the
state of impeachment. I have found it very useful. It's well,
thank you, uh necessary assignment for our for prepping for
our show, and you guys managed to make news of

(21:50):
the dissolving of our republic somehow fun. So that's that's
what we do here at BuzzFeed news dot com. We
make the into the world at least mildly appealing. Yeah,
uh so yeah. One of my favorite parts of the
show is when you check in with the Nixon Yeah yeah,

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uh And it's kind of where you figure out where
we stand in the broad sweep of history, with uh
ten being Nixon announcing his resignation and zero being an
ordinary day in another presidential administration. Since their ordinary days
in this one. Uh. Probably like I'm thinking George H. W.

(22:36):
Bush or Clinton's first time or something, since that's the
last time things felt somewhat normal. Um. But in that spirit, Uh,
I wanted to discuss some of the latest developments that
uh seemed like they might be might might have some
effect in that sort of broad sweep of of where

(22:57):
this thing is headed. Uh. Yeah, you guys had kind
of briefly covered the fact that the Democrats appear to
be taking this thing public. Uh yeah, which makes sense
to me. I don't know, it's been said from the
start the impeachment is a political process and not a
legal one. So I mean, in terms of swaying public opinion,

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Uh makes sense that you would you would want to
televise it, turn it into you know, a very boring
version of the Jerry Sprayer show. Um, it will the
daytime TV, right, it'll be like during from started day
nine on the West coast and noon on the East coast. Probably,
I mean they could also run it in primetime. Let's

(23:43):
not forget that back in the seventies during the Watergate hearings,
those were aired during prime time for sure, So this
could be like Walt Wall coverage all day could be
replayed in the evening. It's just not really clear because
it's been a while since we've done this. We've never
on it in the age of the Internet, where you know,
these clips will be going viral, to be spread across

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Twitter as well. So it's going to be really fascinating
to watch how the people consume this because it will
like saturate or every moment. And Democrats have always said
that eventually they will would get to public hearings. They've
been arguing that right now, it's the private, closed door,
behind the scenes, uh, asking of questions of potential witnesses,

(24:26):
the bits that you gotta do before you bring your
evidence to the public. And Republicans haven't liked that argument,
but Democrats have been saying it all along. Yeah. Well,
and they're also sort of like, these are the rules
y'all came up with, right, so we're just, yeah, this
is your right. These came from signed off on by
a former speaker, John Bayner, So yeah, sorry that you

(24:50):
guys didn't think to write in anything more specific about
how impeachment inquiries work then. But Pelosi has been playing
by the rules that she was given and uh, they
announced that later this week. I believe Thursday, they're going
to be holding a vote on a resolution in the
House that both you know, officially says, yeah, all the
inquies have been doing under p legit and also laying

(25:12):
out how things are going to work moving forward. So
it's gonna be really interesting to see the exact details
once that documents released, right, and that will possibly help
people to sort of maybe obey a subpoena because there's
a lot there's a lot of like legal wiggle room
for people to be like, well, is this actually an
impeachment inquiry? Is it not? I have to take actually
that that legal wiggle room is less than you might think.

(25:35):
So then very blatant. So back on so on last Friday,
a federal judge ruled that uh, she was ruling on
a case about the Mueller inquiry and our grand jury
testimony that the House Democrats were trying to get ahold of.
Now d o J had argued that, well, there is
no impeachment inquiry because the House hasn't voted on it, etcetera.

(25:57):
The judge said, actually, my dude, there is totally an inquiry,
So you have to turn this stuff over. Now. DJ
has already appealed, and in their appeal they say they're
stay trying to argue, well, because this is actually about Ukraine,
you can't really ask for the MLLER stuff. So we'll
see how that one plays out. But to date, the
White House hasn't been, like you said, making more of

(26:19):
a political argument than a legal one. The White House
Council released a letter that was reportedly dictated largely by Trump,
attacking the process. But lawyers looked at and said, what
is this like nothing? There's like no law in this letter,
my dudes. Um, So I mean, uh, you know, just

(26:40):
putting it back in terms of the broad sweep of history.
I mean, the putting the trials on TV during the
Nixon administration was something that, uh when when public perception
of impeachment really started to shift and then you know,
it became possible that Nixon didn't have the support of

(27:01):
the Senate. So, um, it makes sense that they would
want to do that. But are there are there any
ways that you guys can think of that this will
uh backfire kind of taking it public? I can't see
any yet, given what we know about what people have
said behind closed door so far. If they don't want
to perjure themselves by coming out in public and saying

(27:23):
something completely different when they were speaking under oath before.
We're going to hear a lot of damaging things. Um.
I will say that during the Clinton impeachment sagah, they
also had live television hearings, but that didn't really do
much to change people's minds on the situation as it stands.
I think this is going to be different though, right.

(27:43):
I mean, it seemed like it was a worse case
like people. People's general opinion of that case was that
what he did was shitty and gross, but the you know,
the fact that he lied about it did not necessarily
interfere with his job as the right commander in chief.
Whereas this meanwhile, here we have multiple you know, current

(28:05):
and former official at the State Department and now White
House who have said that, yeah, this really fucked with
our national security, and we said so at the time.
They didn't listen. But we said, we've done told set,
We've done told him, but he didn't listen. Is basically
where we're at right now. Yeah, I mean, I guess
one thing Republicans are good at screaming their point directly

(28:27):
to their base, just like ramming it down their throat,
like what what their thoughts are, even when the facts
aren't necessarily on their side, like we saw with the
Supreme Court uh uh confirmation hearings last year, so I
could see, you know, Republicans during Nixon's time were actively

(28:50):
there to find out the truth. Uh, and we are
kind of in far more polarized times. Well, you say that,
but I think it's actually easy to forget that back
during Nixon's impeachment at the start of it, Republicans also
did not want to impeach their president. They they were
willing to go along with it, but they also attacked
the process. They also attacked it as a lynching at

(29:13):
times because you know, much like the president got in
trouble for recently, because you know, there is there. It's
not like parts in politics is like a new thing
in the last twenty years. But as the facts came out,
it became harder and harder to make that defense. And
we're already seeing it play out where Republicans, aside from
like some of the true die hards, are trying to
head their bets a little, especially in the Senate where

(29:34):
once things moved there for the actual trial part, of things.
They have to be serving as jurors and actually make
the decision on whether the president is guilty of whatever
the House charges him with. So they're really trying to
be cautious as they don't no one knows what else
is coming out. No one knows how much more damaging
information is coming out. So except for your like Mark

(29:55):
Meadows and Jim Jordan's of the world, a lot of
them are trying to say, either, well, we haven't the
testimony yet, so we don't know for sure. It hasn't
been in public yet, so we don't know. I'm going
to be a juror, so I can't say so the
next month or two whether if they decide like, oh
this is actually looking really bad, things could shift, right.

(30:15):
I mean, Fox News seems to be the one sort
of qualitatively different, uh you know, factor that they didn't
have to deal with back back during the Nixon trial.
You know, Fox News was in fact designed specifically by
a Nixon advisor who never thought he should have been impeached,

(30:35):
and probably in the back of his mind as a
way to make sure nothing like that ever happened again.
So you know the fact that there is a huge
base of supporters of Trump, who you know they can
speak directly to, will make things somewhat different. It's just
a matter of, uh, you know, whether you can keep
them in the dark, uh, kind of fool them. Have

(30:58):
Laura Ingram come on and just it on every witness
and imply that they're a Soviet spy. Yeah, that's you're right.
That's gonna be really wild to watch play out. Um.
And what's interesting is that I was just speaking to
one of her reporters on Capitol Hill and she said
the Republicans she talked to her being really cautious about that,

(31:21):
and that Fox News is going out on a limb
a bit, especially with a Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vinman, who's
who you're referring to just there, who's testifying on Tuesday.
So today is we're recording this, um, because he has
a lot to say that sounds really bad about how
he knew things were wrong about the call between Trump

(31:41):
and Ukraine's president back in July and tried to say so, um,
so yeah, like you said, Laura Ingram attacked him the
other night. We had Sean Duffy from a congressman attacking
him this morning. But Republicans in Congress don't seem really
like ready to jump on board with that narrative yet.
They're more worried about out how bad it looks to
attack someone who is in a rock war vette, a

(32:04):
current army officer and want a purple heart and a
rock It just seems like he's a really bad target.
But Fox News they're gonna try it anyway. Yeah, they're
going in. I mean, I wonder when Senator Ron Johnson
is going to come into focus, because there's a there's
a lot of reporting now showing that he knows a
lot more than he was leading on, like when he
first went on Meet the Press with Chuck Todd and

(32:26):
was just like regurgitating conspiracy theories. It'll be interesting to
see like what other senators who maybe in the beginning
started off being very confident and sort of trying to
you know, sort of obfuscate or act like this whole
uh the call was a nothing burger sort of thing.
You know who when the receipts come out for them, right, Yeah,
Ron Johnson's a really interesting case. He even said to

(32:47):
the Wall Street Journal, like back when this was kicking
off of all of a month ago or so that
he was told by Ambassador Gordon Sollon, the U s
Ambassador to the European Union, that there was a quid
pro quote in play. It's about the military aid and
UH investigations to the bidens. But Johnson said at the
time that he asked Trump and Trump said no, that

(33:08):
didn't happen. And that's just kind of the story that
ran that Johnson said the thing, but Trump denied it.
So I guess it wasn't a thing. But that's been
the case ever since before this went public, who the
President has been saying to Sonlon and others that there
was quick no quid pro quo, even when it was
clear to Sonlon, who was helping negotiate it was right. Well, Hayes,

(33:31):
thank you so much for taking the time to come
talk to us. People should check out the podcast. It's
called Impeachment Today and it's from BuzzFeed News and it
tells you where we stand with impeachment every morning. Thanks
a lot, is appreciate it. Glad to do it all right. So,
before we completely move on from impeachment, one of the

(33:56):
stories that jumped out at me uh off of the
front page of Drudge, I want to keeping an eye
on on the Conservatives. Uh. The they said that there's
like growing fear among Republicans that they will get just
completely cleaned out in that's just the wave. Uh they

(34:20):
think they think a wave is coming for um. It
seems like the thing. So there's a narrow but very
clear path two for Democrats to take the Senate. UM.
And I mean good is bad. Polling is bad for

(34:41):
senators and everybody keeps quitting. All the Republican incumbents keep quitting, uh,
just deciding not to run. UM and they're getting Yeah,
like some of the fundraising shortfalls, like places where they're
losing to Democrats is like first in a generation bad UM.
And yeah, I don't know this. This seems to relate

(35:03):
to the impeachment. If you know, miss McConnell is very shrewd,
that's the that's the one thing we know about him.
And he's all about doing what's best for the party
and the Conservative cause at large. Uh. And if it's
looking like the party would be better off with like
pent heading into the election, uh, you know, I don't

(35:23):
think he would hesitate to push in that direction. But uh,
you know that's that's a long ways off. But it's
just I guess a potential path to uh, you know
senators actually deciding. Well, yeah, we're talking about just like
last week to the you know, the pleasure principle right
where like the negatives are starting to outweigh the positives

(35:45):
of a mind with them, and I think that's what
you're seeing too. And yeah, the fundraising I think they
should be concerned about because that shows are lack of
enthusiasm to get behind these people. And I think also
just because rhetorically they're in such a fucking just terrible
place right now. They don't know what to say. They
can't say anything, like they're having trouble reconciling like their
allegiance to maybe the president and their allegiance to reality,

(36:09):
where like they they aren't as totally comfortable just telling
outright lies to try and defend the president. So that
puts them all in a very tough spot. And you know,
you hate to see it, you hate oh, you hate
to see it. Um but and it's only gonna get
worse because, as we were talking about with Hayes earlier,
Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vinman, who is like the Ukraine expert

(36:29):
on the national security Council testified in front of Congress,
and you know, again a lot of people with every
person who's tried to testify who wasn't saying like, oh
I didn't know there was any quote quo cuomo, those
people quit pro cuomo. Um. Well another great morch idea. UM.

(36:50):
I think like with him, you know, they're they've already
been trying to do these smears on him already. This
just so, just for the record, this man is a
decoration ated war veteran. He survived an I E ED
blast in Iraq, and he's just he's about serving his
country and he happens to be an expert on Ukraine
and Soviet Union because he's from Ukraine. Um. But that

(37:12):
did not stop the ghouls at Fox and anywhere. Any
Republican who has like whoever got the bat signal to
tell gop lies, they're all on the same page. Here's
an unscrupulous nous. Yeah there. You know, it's absolutely pragmatic ruthlessness.
Well when you listen to what they say, like for example,
Fox and Friends, they took a stab at this one,

(37:33):
um and immediately are calling into question his allegiances. So
if you look at this lieutenant Colonel's background. He's got
a purple heart. He got hit by an I E.
D in Iraq. We also know he was born of
the Soviet Union, immigrated with his family young. Uh. He
tends to feel sympatico with the Ukraine. Also, if he's
been in that position for a while and says he's
a political to me, it must upset him much more.

(37:56):
How the previous administration handled the conflict to with Ukraine
when the Russians came in and carved up the country
and took Crimea and we responded by giving them m
r ras and sleeping bags. This administration gave them money.
Would bother Lieutenant Colonel reportedly it's a July tenth, tenth
conversation between Ambassador Gordon's Sunland uh and a Joly call,

(38:17):
which we all know it's been transcribed, so we'll see
from his point of view. But I don't know how
much color he can add to this since we already
had him. The first thing is so odd because how
can he simultaneously be upset at the previous administration, Like
the motivation would be the same, like oh, he's he
must really love Ukraine, but he didn't like the other thing.

(38:39):
That happened, and he also didn't like what he what
whether or not he did or did not like is irrelevant.
You gotta choose one, bro. It's the fact that if
you are the expert, right and you say this is
a strategic ally, this country is placed in such a
way and Russia is very interested in annexing this part
of the country. We are trying to prevent that from
happening from them just sort of invading this sovereign oratry um.

(39:01):
That is an issue, and we're holding up their defense
aid because he wants to do a smear campaign against
Joe Biden. Yes, that's the problem. But again they're like,
well the uh and here we go with the what
about ship. Well, you know, then he must be mad
about Obama too, so maybe he'll blow the whistle on
m R. He's like, really, you know, I just think
what's being shown to us is such it's theater. Yeah, well,

(39:24):
at this point, because you can't the facts are completely
against you. So let's make up a fantasy world where
this person is a spy. Yeah, and this happens. Now
they just put you just put whatever out into the
zeit guy, and then we talked about it because you're
talking about brains and we're killing the world. Miles, thank
you fly away in my electric helicopter. Now, I thank

(39:48):
you Coke Industries. But even on Laura Ingram Show, even
Laura Ingram, Yeah, Laura Ingram did have John You on
and immediately raised the specter of him being I mean
possibly from another Contris Passi. He said, I think that's
called espionage. Like when talking about this dude who Like,
when you read his written statement, it's just like, yeah,
we had these meetings and we were all just alarmed.

(40:11):
Everybody who wasn't the President or Rudy Giuliani was like
talking to each other like, yo, what the fun exactly?
And the other thing about vin Man is that he
had raised this issue twice to people being like this
is fucked up, and nobody did ship yeah and then
so yes, like you said, his opening statement is bad
for Gordon Solmon. If you remember the week before, he

(40:33):
was like, I don't know anything. If Barisma meant Biden,
that's news to me. I'm just here to do a
good job. And can I go, oh, yes, the man
who paid a million dollars to be an ambassador, he
was he was playing dress up spy or whatever. The

(40:53):
fun it's also juvenile. Yeah, well, you know, this is
what happens when you have the focal point and this
president is someone who's just so self serving and has
just a very narrow focus and a short sighted only
about their immediate satisfaction, whether that's plot, it's from the press,
or just being able to like Hill, those people that
came out, they're not interested in policy, they just want

(41:16):
the feeling of being up in it. So then you
get all these goons together. Well that's so crazy because
it's just like, that's why I don't take it so seriously,
because it is theater. But then also there's like repercussions
that hurt people, which is extremely problematic the war for example, Yeah,
and leaving people defenseless against a very well armed aggressor

(41:36):
nation in Russia, and then saying like well, you know,
are you looking to Joe Biden. It's irresponsible. Yeah. Well,
and then in his opening testimony he he basically explicitly
says that Gordon Sonland said all this ship in front
of these representatives from Ukraine and he was like reprimanded
like on the spot by Fiona Hill and him to
be like yo, that is inappropriate, Like you're bringing up

(41:58):
the Biden's when we're talking about military And he said
in his this is the word it gets tricky, which
is why he probably committed perjury. Is that when he
was giving his testimony, he was like, no one had
ever raised any kind of objection to anything we were doing.
As far as I knew, it was just about this company.
And meanwhile we people are saying, no, sir, no you
actually talked about We pulled side and said you literally

(42:22):
out louder, saying, Joe Biden, what does this mean? Who
are you? Are you with Giuliani? Yes, you are, by
the way, speaking of juvenile I want to give a
shout out to the Jimmy Kimmel show for is that who? Yeah,
Jimmy Kimmel did side by side of Trump's announcement of
the all Bag Daddy mission and Obama's announcement of the
bin Laden killing, and it's just like stark, how he's like,

(42:46):
and then we you'd think we'd go into the through
the front door, but we went through the side door.
We came in and it was big blood, big things
blowing up, and it was just like it was like
listening to a child described something that happened in a movie,
The Rock, And in fact he did say it was
like we we can feel like it was a movie again,
like this is our best form of conflict resolution really

(43:10):
well and again and also like to revel in it too.
Was really a bad look. And for I was a
little bit disappointed because you said, speaking to juvenile, I
thought you were going to say, you know what I
mean when you beside by side, I thought You're gonna say,
you're gonna put Trump black on five min in the
g until the moment anyway, all right, shout out to juvenile.

(43:32):
Shout out to him real quick. I did want to
talk about the Katie Hill resignation. Uh, I don't totally.
I don't understand it. There's not okay. So Katie Hill,
who is a new new member of Congress is resigning. Um.
She wrote that mid turn wave in with a lot
of new freshmen. Um. But you know, the right wing

(43:54):
I guess publication. I won't call it a newspairer whatever
red State. They basically launched a smear campaign that's have
coincided with her estranged husband I think X are soon
to be ex husband, who released a ton of just
like nude photographs and things like basically revenge porn. She
didn't do anything wrong, but she didn't do so this
is a story that on it's if you distill it
down to its bare essence, revenge porn was used, was

(44:17):
weaponized against the shoes, that's what happened, and the crime
was committed against her right to to then use this
sort of idea of sledge shaming culture to be like, oh,
I don't know if that's what that means for Congress
or whatever. Nothing to do with whatever her what she
was doing as an actual congress person, but this combination, right,
and I think that's what's that's what's really funked up
about this whole thing. Because also because they're from California,

(44:40):
even though California is one of the first states to
enact revenge porn laws, it's a misdemeanor, and like maybe
it's a it's a thousand dollar fine and maybe six
months at its most extreme, and is it out there
still do they do what they can to collect it
and take it off. Well, in her as she said
in her resignation letter, she is exploring every legal avenue

(45:00):
possible to bring her ex husband to justice. But and
she has more resources than let's say, you know, just
someone off the street who Yeah, so what happened was
she wasn't a consensual like sort of polyamorous relationship with
her her husband at the time and campaign aid um
and yes, but it was consensual that I understand that

(45:22):
is a terrible choice to like engage in a romantic
relationship with a subordinate, but that's not illegal. Yeah, it's
just Also it's like, of course, you know, people can
have a field day and condemn that as just being immoral,
but it's just like that, I don't think there's anything
wrong with that either. And again, but there are a
lot of people pointing to House rules that were passed
in twenty that said it's absolutely just off the off

(45:44):
the table to even have any kind of relationship with
a campaign with a staff or congressional staffer. So, if
you want to go by the letter of the law,
she didn't break that law. It was a campaign aid whatever.
Then her husband, like in a Facebook post, tried to
allege that she was having an affair with one of
her policy people on her on her staff. She was like,
that is not happening. But that created an ethics investigation
into her based off of her whatever her ex husband said. Um,

(46:07):
but again, a lot of these people are just focused
on like, look at her, she's she's nude with a bomb, Like,
what the heck is this? It's completely devoid of any
sort of real It's again, this person, her husband, ex husband,
had a revenge plot. Who's trying to enact and use
this culture of like you know, trying to come out
women for having a relationships maybe outside of their marriage

(46:27):
or whatever to say this is disqualifying whatever, that's how
is that disqualifying? Well, this is the difference. Why she
Why is she resigning? That's the That's what I'm wondering.
I think it's I think what happened to her? It's
just like we're so like those two values are so
closely wired, especially among people who grew up in our

(46:50):
culture of like being you know, sexually exposed and shame,
and so you know, it just feels we're talking about
how narcissary happier because they don't experience shame. Like if
you look at this versus how Trump would respond to
something like well, and again, many people point out just
the inherent double standard that we have in our culture. Right,

(47:11):
because you even have Again, if you want to play
the you were smoking around, you need to resign card.
Then that ship you should slam the fucking deck on
Duncan Hunter's head, who is a congressman from California. This
motherfucker had multiple affairs with staffers, with lobbyists, this is
an uncommon right, and was using campaign funds to fund

(47:33):
the uber rides, the fucking hotel rooms, the dinners, all
that ship, which is illegal. That's illegal. But a resigning
and I mean that's you know, well, you know it
didn't help that, Like Nancy Pelosi had things like quotes
to say that it's like, I forget. It was like
it was poor judgment or whatever. There wasn't any defense,
like you'd feel like judgment, Yeah, why is she judging personal? Well? Yeah,

(47:58):
you think about how many people percentage eyes that engage
in sexting, right, A lot of people how could have
the fucking guillotine right above their head at any time,
So it's like they want like, I mean, well, look,
we're millennials and the sext thing that's sort of like
the currency of relationships these days. Maybe I don't know,
depend on euphoria. The show I think that's what the

(48:20):
kids are talking about, right. I don't know. It's just
like at some point, at some generation, we're all going
to have and I think that's the where it needs
to be. Is we need to d weaponized, take the
fangs out of this ship because we still exist. We're like, oh,
I can't believe that, and that sort of lady man
to have, like, you know, to be exposed that completely

(48:40):
against her consent to absolutely did not. He was just like,
you tooked out and then the Daily Mail publishes the
ship and then here you go, you got this whole
thing they publishing revenge porn. Is that should be illegal?
Daily Mail put this out. Yeah, the Daily fail, of course.
And she said, so she's probably did she make a

(49:01):
statement what's going on? She did? I mean, she just said,
it's just pains me to say this, but I'm going
to be resigning. I don't want to cause any more,
like any more pain to the people that have supported me.
Nothing really to say that like, yeah, I really fucked up.
That's what really makes it so shitty is that this
is just a really you know, I can't see this
from being anything else from just her ex husband had

(49:23):
a bone to pick and use this whole revenge porn
shipped too. How has her work been in office? The
only thing she was in an ethics investigation because of
this Facebook post her ex husband put up. She's been
like a lot of people, Yeah, a lot of people
have been excited about her being such a loss for

(49:44):
such a loss. So it's again, you know, this is
sort of This is also why to the culture on
the hill, right, you have Nancy Pelosi, who is an
older woman, probably looks at it completely different than let's say,
if the leadership was closer to our generation. One wants
to look at her porn well because I think maybe
if the leadership was different, they might be able to
be like, hold on, what the funk is this? And

(50:05):
also all these old as dudes are like, you know,
they're sending dick picks. Come on, yeah, am I I
don't know who is everybody's sending dick back? Why aren't
those out? See now I'm thinking, like, I don't revenge.
I'm thinking of revenge for the revenge port. And I'm like,
we'll put that motherfucker going through enough in this country.

(50:31):
All Right, We're gonna take another quick break. We'll be
right back and we're back, and uh it is we
We mentioned a couple of weeks ago that it's fire
season in California, which is not as cool as you

(50:55):
might think as fire season might sound. The world fifth
biggest economy is now on fire in several key areas. Uh,
some big fires. Um. So far they've managed to avoid
any deaths. Uh because they're kind of earlier more proactive
fire evacuation strategies. Um. But here in Los Angeles, I

(51:18):
mean there's it's taken people, you know, twice as long
to get to work three times it was long to
get to work. There's like entire major arteries of the
city closed down. Yeah. Well, and then there's also like
it's funny too even a lot of these areas where
like wealthier people are living, they're so self centered and
so focused they haven't been telling like people that work

(51:40):
for them. Yeah, like nanny's gardeners, people who take care
of their homes there and children they're like, oh, yeah,
we it's evacuated, don't come here. And people are showing
them like what the is going on? Uh? And also
in the Kincaid fire up north, guess who may be
responsible for that one? Yep, huh. They're like, uh, the

(52:01):
cause of the Kincaid fires still unn pg UNI reported
the equipment on one of its transmission towers broke near
the fire's origin point. Shortly before the blaze was reported.
Power had been shut off in the area, but not
on that specific transmission lote. Yeah. We covered in uh
an episode last week that pg n A was like

(52:22):
they had the option of fixing their infrastructure, which would
have cost money, or just coming up with a half
hass solution like turning the power off two huge chunks
of the state, and they went with the half past one. Yeah,
just uh yeah, shut the power down and then maybe
you'll go away and then look what happened. But yeah,

(52:43):
it's it's man. The air quality is not good right
now in the city. Uh yeah yeah, global they're not
letting uh my kid play outside at school because of
air quality. Yeah. Well, I mean, like what the there
was a new study that said between at some point
in the seventies and like last year, the area that

(53:04):
had been affected by burn like increased fivefold. I mean,
smoke is not good to inhale period. No. And I
mean but when you just think of like our boom
and bus cycles of like like rain, drought, heat, create
a bunch of brush, thick brush for fuel for the
fucking wind. Like it's like it's it's it's really disturbing.

(53:25):
Fires were not rare in California, but now this ship
like full on, like half the state burning like around
this time of the year. It's becoming the new normal.
It's really horrifying. Legit like a season that you can
count on, like you can count on there being generational
fires like every year. So I mean that's God. Can

(53:46):
you imagine living in an area that's prone to that. Yeah, yeah,
like this one, this one, but like you know, like
the people who live further west because it's i mean,
the fire is not coming down to Hollywood generally, like
the smoke. Yeah no, there's no, there's not enough fuel
to have like a full on city fire. But yeah,

(54:09):
and I mean also they a lot of people developed
like in these areas more and more because it starts
off with the land being cheap and then you start
over building and rich areas where you know they have options.
Well I guess you have options. So it's like, well
we'll just go to the you know, the other house
or yeah, or we'll just hire a private firefighting company,
which is a lot of people. Uh. One person that

(54:30):
did that was Kanye West. Yeah, and uh, our next
story is about him. This is the Lana del Rey segment.
Yeah of the show. I you know, for all y'all
out there who are still Kanye West fans, Yeah, you
got some good company. Funk out of here? What is
wrong with you? Donald Truck Jr. Is new president of

(54:52):
his fan club. He tweeted, Kanye West is cracking the
culture code at Kanye west new album, Jesus Is King
is the epitome of fearless creativity and quote dangerous, unapproved ideas.
He said, what's the name of the album? Go on?
Leftists always try to silence those who are speaking truth.
They're waging a war on our family and culture. Kanye

(55:15):
is a pioneer. Oh you don't need to because I'll
find you a YouTube video that's fart for ten hours
straight loop and that's better than the twenty seven minutes
of whatever the funk This album wasn't It's empty. It's empty,
it's empty, has nothing. It doesn't even come close to
being anything like gospel music aside from like using buzzwords. Um.

(55:38):
But again, because Kanye has come out here again being
like democrats have brainwashed black people, abortion is killing people,
I'm maga all day. They realize, okay, they have someone
from the you know, left side of the spectrum or
people they like, They're like, let's really just put our
capes on and be this man's number one fan. Um,
And then again you have who else? Oh? Hamley Geller,

(56:00):
who is a very famous islamaphobe and Obama conspiracy theorist
Um said this about the album. It's everything undeniably tremendous.
The left is gonna rip it because it's all God
at Honey. West is a visionary. He either walks alone
or raises an army. Either way, he walks on. I
mean his concept of God. It's very specific. Again, remember

(56:22):
we were talking about dogma earlier, so you know the
dogmatic traditions of the Church of Yez are whoa yeah,
I mean, if you want to see the reason there
is dogma. And I totally agree with everything you said
about dogma, but uh, you know, I think like the
Catholic Church would say the dogma exists so that Kanye
West or like people like Kanye West can't be like

(56:45):
I'm God everybody follow me. Well, he's not saying he's God,
Oh my god, Christ don't know. Would y'all go to
a Sunday service, No, I want nothing to do. I
think he's he's such a he. I would, but only
for the reportage. I would be an undercover source. Yeah, sure, Okay,

(57:10):
I would not go. I think I would just be
so piste off because he is not going there to
find yourself necessarily. No, No, I've I've I've already found
myself and I love what I see. I do not
need to show me any kind of truth. But yeah,
it's he's We've talked about this. He's gone in. Well,
I mean the number one source that we looked to

(57:30):
for our rap reviews. Yeah, the source. Oh no, I'm sorry.
The Washington Examiner gave it, gave it five. Mike said,
with such a long build up to the album's release,
the hype could have overshadowed the album itself. That is,
if the album hadn't delivered. For early family reactions or
any indication it's a hit, Millennials will be captioning their

(57:51):
Instagram photos closed on Sunday you are my chick fil
a four years to come? Oh hell, yeah, ben Zino,
let him know. Wow, the fucking again, these are I'm
sure Kanye doesn't want these plot it's if you looked
at it, he's like, what would complex say? Or like,
you know, things where music has actually talked about rather

(58:12):
than oh, I've just created like a culture a ward.
When Pitchfork gave Life of Pablo nine or nine stars
or whatever a nine, he was like, what where's the other?
Where's the other one point? I mean, it's funny to
see there are people. You know, I'll go on to
Kanye West subreddit because I like to see what his
true fans are thinking, and it's like your Drudge Report.

(58:34):
Definitely the other side. Um No, that's when I go on,
come on c O y s for the Tottenham Hotspur subredit,
just to see what's going on, going to check on
my enemies. But the yeah, even they're like, it's funny
hearing some people like post like well look what Needle
Drop gave the thing like, and then some people like
yeah fair. I think people got to like and then

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it's funny. There's also this this over recurring theme that
you always se people go, I really think I'm one
of the only people that actually likes this album, like,
and everyone's been saying that, but it's like not fam.
Everyone's trying to say that because you know it's bad
and you're trying to find a silver lining. So it's
a Christian gospel album. That's what he calls it. Yes, okay,
all right, Yeah, Jesus is King is the name of Yeah, alright,

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he said something they want to YONDI until Jesus Christ
did the laundry, I don't even know what that is.
I don't know what that I don't know what that
bar means. Well, he was going to release an album
named Yandy, and then Jesus he prayed and his laundry
was done. It was a miracle he prayed, and then
he was inspired by Jesus to find a new way

(59:39):
to launder money. Yeah, botistic, and that's where his cult
is going to come in. Yeah. See, like we know
bars out here, you know what I mean, We're looking
at it. What is this? What's he doing? Bars um?
And then I wanna talk about some Halloween director decorations
that are I did not know this existed, man, but yeah,

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people are depicting lynchings in their Halloween decorations, like in
aggressive ways there's some people like there was an attorney's
office in Atlanta who did like a mock crime scene. Okay,
they put a skeleton outlined in tape like a crime scene. Yeah,
that doesn't seem I don't know if you're like, but again,
like it's a legal office, someone can trip, do you

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have liability insurance? You know, Like, it's just it's just
not it's just kind of dumb. Yeah, especially when you're
a district attorney. But it's I think it's more like
tasteless rather than offensive. Right. And then there was just
another one in Brooklyn, like in Bedside, there was some
home outside of a school just had these depictions of
like brown like black caricatures hung in their window. No,

(01:00:48):
like no variety to it. I mean they look like
those dolls look like yeah, like a golly like a
gollywog doll. So I think that image, know it's it's questionable,
but I think there's still some plausible deniability. But as
I was going further and looking at some of the
other pictures, those are explicitly people hanging by the neck

(01:01:11):
from the trees. And McDonald's in Massachusetts put up a
decoration that included a limp, black body hanging from a tree?
Is it all in silhouette? Is everything in blackhouette? Okay?
I just want to make sure, like you know, all
the factors are there, but like, just like who wants
to fucking eat at McDonald's and see someone hanging from
a tree? Right? Yeah, well I think you know because

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it's one of these things right where people think what's spooky,
but their personal experience has probably never intersected with lynchings
or the poor like lynching, so it's it's abstract people
like they're like it's freaky, yeah, right, and then people
in the same way, people can make jokes and ship
like that, whether it's like certain things experience, Like again,
I have a feeling the benign version as someone goes,

(01:01:54):
well it's freaky, you know, like oh, like people swinging
from the trees. You have an African American customer coming
in like this is horrific, Like what this is not spooky?
Do zombies? It is from a place of ignorance. I
think there are people who are ignorant, and then I
think there are people who are really just trying to
gas themselves up and be like watch this ship my

(01:02:14):
black neighbors are going to hate this and do that
kind of ship because I think, I mean, there was
the example that's kind of undeniable on here is like
somebody who hung what was like a lifelike mannequin from
a tree and put a Confederate flag up next to it.
So that's pretty explicit. Yeah, but she was like, what, huh,

(01:02:35):
I have no idea what you're talking about. What do
you mean that's a flying that's the flying ghost of
Robert E. Lee speaking of county in Florida, for Myers
is in Lee County, I believe, named after Bobby Lee,
stand up comedian General Bobby Lee. Yeah, that actually wowed.

(01:03:00):
That works out. That does work out, Roberty Lee, Bobby Lee. Again,
I think, well to the point, right, there are people
that again, even how casually, the president or even Joe
Biden back in the day, was like, this is a lynching.
It's like not enough historical context, you don't you need
to read up a little bit. This is just a

(01:03:20):
terrible It's just you know, it evokes some of the
darkest ship in this country's history. Uh, and not even
for black people, even for like white people who like
protected black people and they got lynch too, because that
was the ship that happened also, so it's a very Yeah,
it's just a very disturbing thing to see. And again
I wonder if how common this was or if this
is something that people are becoming more sensitive to, just

(01:03:41):
given the like the tension in the country or the
recent news about people talking about lynchings carelessly or things
like that. But I don't think I've ever seen that
in person as a Halloween decoration, so I didn't even
know that was a thing. So it is like I'd
be like, yeah, if I was sitting in a McDonald's
and saw like that, it stands out doesn't seem like
tradition all Halloween spookiness. Yeah, there was a dude in

(01:04:03):
my neighborhood growing up and they had like animals strung
up from a tree, yeah, which was and everyone was like,
this is fucking weird, Dave, like stuffed animals or like
that look bad. And then they were like obscured, like
they were looked like they were mummies but like the
forms of animals, but like hany like that's how it creepy.
And this person's front yard was always like on some

(01:04:25):
next level horrific ship though for all I mean, but
again kind of like, was it supposed to be like
spooky haunted house type of thing, and I was like, spooky,
get the funk away from my house, like and then
in the back it was like a backyard butcher. Uh no,
but they did have a pond with flames that came
out of it. Oh, I think they were industry. Yeah, well,
you know, people going too hard with their decorations. Just

(01:04:47):
stick to witch hair. You know, whitch hair. Never heard nobody.
This just looks terrible. There's this writer, George Saunders who
wrote Lincoln in the Bardough and a bunch of classic
short stories, and one of his stories is called The
Simplic a Girl Diaries, and it's like this future he
writes about, like these like kind of fictional versions of

(01:05:08):
of the future where people have living lawn ornaments that
they hang from trees like that they you know, you
you go up and basically reenact a lynching. That's like
somebody's job to like be a lawn ornament in people's
yard essentially. But I like that. I always think about

(01:05:28):
that because he always has spending money for this, right,
he always has this just like I don't know, it
seems like he has an eye for like the sort
of ship that could happen in our culture. Like one
of his other stories is about a guy who starts
a website to rate college freshman's looks destroying the world.
The world No an amusement park based on Civil War reenactments,

(01:05:51):
and I was like, damn, that seems actually yeah, isn't
that a Dolly park? Civil warland in sharp decline? Yeah?
Well then what was what was her Dixie Stampede? The
Dolly Parton like like medieval times. If you're in the North,
I'll see a thing that shouldn't existing culture that this
dude basically predicted. And I'm like, right, yeah, but Dolly

(01:06:15):
switched it up. Yeah, the Stampede is no longer about
I think, right, uh, I think I think maybe she
might have changed it good to be slightly less problematic.
Oh you know what, now it's just called Dart Dolly
Parton Stampede Dinner Attraction. Is that really true? Yeah? Deep?
The website is DP Stampede dot com and it looks

(01:06:38):
like now, yeah, yeah, this looks more like conastokea wagon
type shit. It's not like on something like hey man,
what y'all think about these guys in gray. You like
the guys in gray. Are the guys in blue who
should have won. It's been a pleasure having you on
the daily Zeitgeist? Where can I? Where can people find you?
Follow you? I'm on the internet at physicisny on those

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social media platforms Instagram, Twitter, etcetera. Um, Physica Desani dot com.
I'll spell physic. Don't expect you to know not how
to spell that. Um F I Z A A D
O S A n I. So just note that physics
spelled with one Z two a's. Yeah. Yeah, and there
I was gonna say Facial Recognition Comedy dot com. That

(01:07:21):
is a comedy brand, comedy tour and weekly podcast that
Paulov and Nolan and Zara Ali and I believe Paula
has been on here. Yeah, so shout out to my girls. Um,
and is their tweet you've been enjoying here? Was that

(01:07:42):
the tweet you wanted? No, that wasn't the tweet. Let
me pull up. Let me let me look at tweets
that I've liked. Actually, let's let's look at Polovis because
you just popped up. I'm sure she has a tweet
that are you guys? Particularly freaked out by facial recognition technology.
Is that why you're called facial reconn? Oh well okay,
so people would get like the Brown comics mixed up

(01:08:03):
the women, especially um, and they were only a handful
full of us at the time. So I made something
called the Facial Recognition Guide so people could refer to
it before they spoke with us. And then like, um,
when we started the show, I made a flyer that
has six faces, like the six comics who are going
to be on that show, and it says we are
not the same person on our forehead. That kind of

(01:08:25):
went like viral in the comedy community, and that started
the That started it. So Paul Vi says, maybe love
is not caring that they're horribly unfunny. Who but like,
you know, Glad, that's not my significant other. Yeah, I
mean I prefer, you know, a partner who's funny. Yeah,

(01:08:48):
worse than being with somebody who's dreams you don't believe in.
Oh god, oh god, it's not funny and a comedian
that's that's that's a deal breaker, ladies. Yeah, yeah, I
do remember I saw that and I'm like, whoof uh Miles,
where can people find you? Oh? Man, find me and

(01:09:08):
follow me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray
a few tweets, I life life man, I can't speak.
You know why I didn't have a whole root. That's
promise at Sick of Wolves. What if instead of booing
rich people at sporting events, we made booing rich people
into the sporting event. I would have loved that ship.
A part of rich person, yeah, a part of at

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a partakin modern life. In one act me, I am lonely,
you I am lonely. We heard to each other's posts.
Oh that was mine, the loneliness, and then last one
at existing home is where you trust the toilet seat. Um,
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talked about today's episode, as well as the song we
ride out on Miles. What are we Gonna write? This
is a track from UK artists Oscar jarrol Um. And
he's kind of cool, cool dude. He plays the guitar.
You know, he's a guitar player. But also like his
style is very like world e like you'll hear some
Latin rhythms, African rhythms, little jazziness, hip hop song and

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I like that. Yeah, it's a really great track. It's
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