New Variant Same Problems, McConaughey Out 11.30.21

In episode 1039, Jack and Miles are joined by Taz Ahmed to discuss WE ARE STILL IN A PANDEMIC MAKING THE SAME MISTAKES, McConaughey - na I’m good, Tis The Season For Another Probably Bullshit Food Map and more!

1. WE ARE STILL IN A PANDEMIC MAKING THE SAME MISTAKES
2. McConaughey - na I’m good
3. Tis The Season For Another Probably Bullshit Food Map

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to thirteen, episode
two of Day at Least like a production of I
Heart Radio. This is a podcast where you take a
deep dive into America's shared consciousness. And it's Tuesday, November
thirty one, which of course means miles it is. I mean, look,
it's stay home because You're Well Day, National Personal Space Day,

(00:25):
National m I S s I S S I p
p I Day, Mrs Zippy Day, and National Mason Jar Day,
a little bit of something for everybody, and National Meth
Awareness Day. Meth Awareness. Yeah, okay, I don't know what
to stay home because you're well days. That seems like
it seems like I think I wouldn't make up as
like a high schooler, like play Hockey Day, National Thermometer

(00:50):
against the lamp, oh right right right yeah? Or I
would do is I would take a little bit of
tea because you know, like you have a little hot
water in your mouth and then you just have to
bring the tone up that's to the right point and
then you take it out. Anyway, for all you kids
out there around tea kettles professional all right, well, my
name is Jack O'Brien, a k nothing compares. Nothing compares

(01:15):
to spruce. That is courtesy of Party. Barker really is
talking about some Christmas trees. Christmas trees really, And I'm
thrilled to be joined as always by my co host,
Mr Miles Gray. Miles Gray, Oh man, I wish uh

(01:37):
uh it's I hit day o'noho back on the air waves.
I was traveling, you know, I was in New York.
It was cool to wear a jacket. So I think
I'm still kind of riding that high of wearing winter clothing.
So you have to forgive me for a lack of
an a K because I see the discorders popping with them,
So rest as shirt. I will come back strong. Conna
get to you well, Miles. We are thrilled to be

(01:58):
joined in our herd seat once again by a brilliant,
talented political strategist, storyteller and artists who has performed her
poetry on stages everywhere including I don't know the White House.
Please welcome Tez. I'll man, how's it going. Well? I'm

(02:19):
still feeling that like post Thanksgiving with erg so oh yeah,
like my body and I didn't even really eat a
formal Thanksgiving. I went to a restaurant, but I had
They had a Thanksgiving like meal that you could have
got there, but I was like, I just want stuffing
and gravy, So I just said, can I just get
that as a side to my other meal? So I

(02:43):
got that. We went to Lucy Lucile's the day after
Thanksgiving because we didn't have corn bread, and then all
of a sudden, we're like, oh, we need we need
to eat corn bread now, right, So it was just
like a gluttonist and then they made cheesecake las night.
So it's just been a gluttonis weekend where you didn't wait.
So where do you right now? You with your family?
I'm at my dad's house. He lives in the suburbs
of Ontario. Cheesecake is really easy to make, but I've

(03:07):
been trying to come up with my my twist on it.
So that's been kind of fun. Right When you say
on Teraro, you mean like Ontario, like California. Yeah, okay, yeah,
my crossing borders yet no shout out to Ontario Mills,
Ontario Mills, Ontaria Airport. Yeah. I thought that you could
only make cheesecake at the cheesecake factory. I thought they

(03:28):
had like a trademark on that. I didn't know that
was a homemake couple thing. Oh my gosh, if you
look at your Philadelphia m bar, the cheesecake cream cheese
there didn't keep in my pocket, keep on keep one
on me as they say, yeah, how many blocks do

(03:49):
you typically need for like one cheesecake I've never made.
It's so funny. I love cheesecake, never even attempted to
make it, never even watch someone make it. But I
used one one for this go. But here's okay. So
this is like my little background. Like there's just Bengali dessert.
The families from Bangladesh. Bengalis are known for sweets. There's
Bengali dessert called Rustumale, which has like a lot of

(04:12):
cardamom and saffron. So I've been trying to like make
rest my Life fusion desserts every Thanksgiving. So last year
I made Arrestme Life trust liches and then that was amazing.
So it's just like tress lasts with saffron and uh cardamum.
And then this year I wanted to try to do
a saffron cardamom cheesecake and it works, and I'm being

(04:33):
impressed with myself I'm just gonna keep riding this fusion wave. Yeah,
we're not baking, I mean straight to the bank. What's
how was the Fusion trust Liches? How was that? Oh?
My god, it was so good. I'll send y'all the restipe.
It was delicious. It's my favorite, my favorite. If you
ever see me in the street and you want to
give me something, put it in front of my face
and I will smile. I think I want to try

(04:55):
the flon next see if I can like figure figure
that out. Yeah, or like a krembro a too. I'm
just gonna keep talking about desserts. I was like, I'm
talking like somebody who didn't eat enough Thanksgiving food on
Thanksgiving and now we're the start of the holiday season.
We're gonna be eating throughout. Yeah, I know what else

(05:16):
are we going to do? Being led around by his
nose with his feet like an inch off the ground,
with some trislates like a cartoon away. Yeah, yeah, So
are you you were back home? Is this where you
grew up? Are you back in the Yeah? I grew
up in the suburbs of l A. I went to
Ontario High School. I went to l A Colleges in

(05:40):
l A, but I would always come back on the weekends.
It was kind of hard for the pandemic because I
wasn't coming back to see my dad as off. My
dad lives here now in this house, so I wouldn't
come back during the pandemic. But this is this was
like the first Thanksgiving where it felt kind of normal
in two years. It was still kind of scary too,
Like we hung out, but we were like hanging out

(06:02):
outside with my cousins, right right, right, Yeah, there's still
I mean, yeah, there's still a level of edginess to
it all, despite you know, vaccinations and you know infection
rates going up and down. It's always at a constant
hum in the background. How are your Thanksgivings? I know
this is on Tuesday. I still got to keep talking
about I mean I was fine again. New York, City

(06:24):
of Dreams, the Green Apple. Everything in New York isn't
always what it seems, right, Yeah, exactly, Okay, I just
want to make sure that was still the dog Pound
Gangster quick. But yeah, it's I had a great time.
I was there for a wedding. Shoutouts to Jacquelin and Scott,
congratulations on your wedding. That was also a very that
was like a trip to to just like kind of
do like some normal thing again. But other than that,

(06:47):
great time, Great time. Yeah. I I we did Thanksgiving
dinner outdoors al Fresco, and I was in terms of
the turkey, so it took too long, and so by
the time we were it was very cold out. But
the turkey was very good. I both dry and wet.
Brian did not in that order, which would have been

(07:09):
a problem. Okay Jack O'Brien in over here, Yeah, yeah,
it was. It was like very last minute. I realized
that we had ordered a bunch of sides and had
not figured out what we're going to do for the
main thing. Literally the night before I got like a
nine pound turkey and was like, all right, what this
will this will do? And what did what did you

(07:31):
use for the brain? So we have some rosemary in
the backyard. We have a lemon tree in the backyard.
So I just did some rosemary and lemon and some
fresh time and then just a shipload of salt and
water and you know, boiled it up, let it cool.
Was up until like one in the morning the night
before doing it, because it was you know, I figured

(07:55):
out I was doing it at like ten o'clock as closing,
so very well, it's all about preparation bad at that
so it was it was a bit of a mess
and we didn't have a coacher assault so I used
him La and salt so for a while, the turkey
was like bright pink, which was kind of weird. People
are like, okayoked, but then yeah, cooked down it was.

(08:20):
It was good. It was yeah, and I'm I'm glad
to hear that even though it's delayed, it came out.
I'm more succulent than even you could have hoped. And
I always that's my favorite line from Signed Folding the
Ducked and shout out to Sharon, my mom. We we

(08:40):
once again used her sweet Potato crunch recipe. It's one
of those like old school seventies recipes. It's just like various,
you know, grocery items mixed together, but it's fucking bomb
hits every time, all right, And we have my in
laws here and it was fun. We also had some
Korean beef along with the turkey, so it's really good. Yeah.

(09:04):
I love the Thanksgiving table that has like different We
have very aniolso on Thanksgiving, so we have a turkey
during the daytime, and then dinner was like the Japanese
So we'll be like, do you like as a kid,
be like should I make a turkey? And I'm like, well,
I mean you could make like some other Japanese stuff. Again,
I was like, just have the stuffing and the matched
potatoes and we could confusion this ship up. However, we

(09:27):
need to seriously all right, as we're going to get
to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of the things
we're talking about. We're gonna just check in with where
we're at in the pandemic. We got the new variant,
you know, all that good stuff. So we're gonna just
how do we feel? What, how should we feel? What?
What are we what's the signal and the noise all

(09:48):
that ship. Matthew McConaughey says, no, I'm good about running
for Texas governor. So we're gonna, you know, just congratulate
him on that decision. It is, of course, a holiday season.
The holiday season for many, Christmas is upon us. You know,
we all did the Mariah Carey Thanksgiving evening change into

(10:13):
a peppermint candy themed outfit at midnight. So we're gonna
we're gonna ask the question, what are America's favorite Christmas
candies by state? You know, it's it's every holiday. We
have to look at a probably apocryphal chart claiming that
every state has a has wildly differing candy preferences. This

(10:36):
one's actually boring enough that it might be true. So
well we'll talk about that all of that plenty more.
But first we do like task our guest tas what
is something from your search history? You know, I was
cooking a lot this weekend star for my search history.
It's a lot of recipes, a lot of googling of
different types of fusion foods. I mean, I was trying

(11:00):
to figure out what was I mean, I think besides
you know, thingsgiving related searches. The other thing that I've
been like really digging into. I'm really into Moorish architecture
right now. So I definitely went into the the rabbit
hole looking for different buildings in l A that were
inspired by this Islamic Moorish if they call it Moorish Revival.

(11:24):
And it happened, actually actually I happened because but when
they used to have the World Fair out in Chicago.
They used to bring have like an example, taj mahal
Ish architecture thing and then people would come to the
World World Fair and then say I want that house
and then they would make it. So this was like
don't I'm I'm really into this because I was working

(11:46):
writing a script where my characters get really involved with
Orientalists tropes that you see in Palm Springs and in
the the desert out there. So then I jumped into it.
I will say one of the if you I know
you're both in l A. If you haven't been to
the Glendale Library yet, the Glendale Library was actually a

(12:06):
house that I feel like. His name is Brand, you know,
the Brand family. They started Glendale and he had this
Moorish architecture castle built out in the mountains of Glendale,
and if you go now, it's just kind of like
it looks like a library that's like inside a mosque.
It's fascinating to just I don't know for me as
a as a Muslim woman in l A. I didn't

(12:27):
realize like we have this kind of connections to Islamic
architecture around last night. So that is my rabbit hole
that I've been digging into Oh yeah, because now I'm
like I was first like googling like Moorish Revival architecture,
but I'm like, now that I see the Glendale I'm like,
oh yeah, the Glendale Library. Okay, to try and put

(12:48):
it in our listeners mind, like what what are features
of Moorish architecture. It's kind of like over the top
because it's not really how architecture is an Indie or
Iran hun or wherever these kinds of pieces are being
inspired from. It's like the white imagination of the Orient,
which is my fascination of it because it's kind of like,

(13:10):
I think the way that I've been thinking about it
is like growing up as a Muslim girl in southern California,
the mosque we would go to where like in these
strip malls because that was what our community could afford.
Yet here you have like these luxurious homes with Moroccan detail, domes, arches,

(13:33):
and that was just like their home. And I like
seeing where that contradiction is that like gray space between
the two. Yeah right, and yeah, that's like that's like
sort of like you were saying, I didn't realize there
was like that sort of like shin Wa Zurie, like Orientalism.
Stuff happening in Palm Springs. I have to look closer,
but yeah, it's always Oh my gosh, it's so deep.

(13:53):
In Palm Springs. There's the City of Mecca, which used
to be called something else, and they changed it to
the City of Mecca because the US Department of Agriculture
they brought in dates from the Middle East basically to grow.
This was back in the turn of the century. So
they were like trying to figure out how to make
the desert of farming land. So they brought in these days.

(14:15):
They started farming dates out in the desert. They renamed
the city a city to Mecca. They renamed and you
know this beach along the Salt and Sea, they called
it Bombay Beach because they thought that would make it
look like exotic Indio, right Indio County. Wow, it's like India,
but it's masculine India High School. Their mascot is are

(14:40):
the Rags or the or something like that. Coachella has
the mascot of the Arabs. I don't know, they're just
like this. I'm just really fascinated by all of that.
Of the Western gays, m hm. They even have a
Date Festival where they you know how they have like
those pageants, They have a pageant where they the winner

(15:02):
is called the Queen. Queen Shahrazade is the name of
the pageant winner. And just I don't know, it's just wild.
I'm just so fascinated by all of this, right that
it's like entrenched and like people like have doesn't is
this just all taken, just accepted, or does anyone kind
of looking back in the history and be like, oh, right,
I didn't even know. I just thought Queen Shahira Zade

(15:23):
was just a thing you won and at the at
the date festival. Mhm. They used to back in the
day for the day festival, they used to dress up
in orientalists attire. And if you go to the Date
Festival still there's they have like Arabia play. I don't know,
it's it is pretty. It's particularly wild to me because

(15:44):
that region of southern California is deeply Islamophobic. There's been
a lot of hate crimes out there yet, so so
one hand it's like deeply Islamophobic. On the other hand,
they're like exotifying and you know, horrifying the culture or
their imagination of culture. Yeah. I could talk on and

(16:07):
on about this. If anyone's interested, just tweet at me.
Um like such a nerd about this kind of stuff. Yeah,
that's super interesting. What is something you think is overrated?
Pete Davidson, not Pete? What about him? What about him?
Something could be specific? Now, you know, defending Kardashian. I

(16:31):
think the relationship thing is overrated. I think that's fake.
So I don't know, like it just seems it feels
like a Netflix algorithm relationship, Like an algorithm was like,
you know, what would turn the fucking internet up? Put
Pete Davidson with Kim Kardashian. There's like just such an
energy around it that I've just like become suspicious of

(16:53):
what what's their whole thing is? But yeah, there is
a there is a theory on Twitter that Chris Jennerman
you actor this relationship to get eyes off of Travis Scott.
But wait, but no, but they were together before Yeah
the Astro World thing. She knew it was coming because
she also planned that. Yeah, she also planned after wout disaster. Yeah,

(17:14):
where's that Twitter threat? Yeah? I do wonder how much
is you know, maybe maybe it's not like externally orchestrated.
But if you are like very smart at like knowing
the culture and like part of your life is like
being sort of naturally like magnetically drawn to fame, Like

(17:37):
does is there something in her or her mom's mind
or Pete Davidson's mind where they're like, okay, this relationship
will hit super hard. So like therefore I am drawn
like sort of the internalizing of the algorithm as opposed
to like the algorithm having to tell them what to

(17:58):
do right, Whereas like normal people are like I'm lonely
as fun, I like this person and they like me back.
This is great where but when you're in the public eye,
that's sort of like these third and fourth layers of
analysis of like okay, now what does this do with
my outward persona? Does this benefit me? Okay? Check box?
That's a step up. Is it gonna get a lot

(18:19):
of people talking and keep me relevant? Check box? And
it's like almost the same thing as like are they caring?
Do they listen? But yeah, I mean what do you
think they talk about? Though? Like I just don't I
can't imagine what A I guess they're not having conversation.
I mean maybe he's really into like legal stuff like

(18:41):
she is, and they have deep, deep debates over you know,
the state of like our car sool system and things
like that. Or maybe they just bone a lot and
just say I love you and realize in a couple
of months they actually have nothing in common. I don't know. Yeah,
I mean they're always doing like I guess by this,

(19:02):
I mean I've seen one picture of them on a
roller coaster. So that's a good day to go on
with someone who you're attracted to, but like don't have
a ton to like talk about. You just talk about
the roller coaster that you just went on. That was
so fun. Yeah, that was fun, right dropped? Yeah, like
I was. I was like, like on the way up,

(19:22):
I was less scared, but that when I dropped, that
was Oh my god, you too write that was that
That was the part that scared me. And this is
what I'm saying, like we have so much in common,
like this is crazy. Sometimes are comic because again, I
would love to see a posed photo where she's like

(19:42):
I'm reading Fucal's penju and he second, I've got thoughts too,
like you know, but I don't know if what you know,
I don't know that's that's a problem with even trying
to dissect like these sort of celebrity relationships. But I
do agree with you, like I'm definitely I'm done talking
about it. M hm. Yeah. In that sense, that's where
I feel like still, well, I mean, like when this

(20:08):
was all in the news last week, apparently Kim had
like chartered an airplane for the Afghany soccer team to
go to the UK at this and it's like, but
that wasn't in the news because like people just wanted
to talk about Pete Davidson wearing skims for Jama pants.
But what Kim did was really great, Like that was

(20:28):
so wonderful that she charted that plane for them. So
I wonder in that sense if it is real, because
you're like, it's sucking up the things that Kim is
trying to like, you know, magnify a little bit more
about where her career is headed, where she's trying to
be a little more philanthropic and like activist oriented, when meanwhile,
it's just like, dude, look at fucking Hickey. He's got

(20:48):
dude ship and that's all the news. But yeah, good
point multitudes, right Exactly. It's like I will save these kids,
and I will eat his neck like a vampire. What's
something you think is underrated? You know what? I'm like
not working right now, not working in the conventional sense

(21:10):
like a lot of l A folks do, And I
think that's underrated, like this whole Like I'm part of
this great what were they calling it? The Great Resignation.
I left my job in March and I've been spending
the summer just working on a script in a memoir
and writing and making art, and it's been amazing. I

(21:31):
highly recommend if you can figure out a way to
just take advantage of this pandemic in that way, to
not do anything. It's I don't think we spend enough
time letting ourselves get bored. As an artist, I feel
like getting bored is so important for us to let
our minds wander and work on art and writing or whatever,

(21:53):
and we're just not giving ourselves the space to do that.
So getting bored, being creative, taking naps, that is so
underrated right now, and I'm here for it. I encourage
everyone to to not have things to do. Ye mean
to tell you this, Jack, but I'm not doing right now,

(22:15):
so it might be it I was just reading an
article things in the American Prospect about, you know, the
Great Resignation, and sort of the thrust was like that
there's been a lot of like a lot of explanations
to say it's because of enhanced benefits, or it's because
of this, or it's safety or whatever, and then it's like,
so I decided to like talk to people that actually

(22:36):
what happened, and it's all like, yo, man, I work
for fucking pets Smart because I like pets and I
wanted to be a groomer, and then they fucking had
me working like seven days of fucking week and also
like working with dogs who are like like who are
prone to epileptic like seizures and things that could harm
the dogs or like make ship sketchy. For me, I
lost my whole fucking joy issh it. So I had

(22:59):
to fucking stop because because at that sector, especially when
you're being paid like lower wages, it just felt like
I had no time or dignity or nothing. So I'm
fucking off that and it's like, wow, it's like that.
So it's like the dignity, it's like the overworking of
this because a lot of these companies that you think
of like pet Smart or pet Coke that are sort
of like publicly owned or traded. It's all the very

(23:21):
similar ethos of like man, pay these people nothing, get
the fucking most out of them. It's like, you know,
just like how Amazon and all, like, you know, it's
the norm now, and people are really pushing back against that,
and you know, realizing that life is too precious. And
for this woman, she's like, I'm starting my own fucking
grooming business because I don't need to work for them.
I can do I like this, I'll do it for

(23:41):
myself and I'll try that at least. So I was
incredibly burnt out from working in the political movement and
activism space, and I just, you know, like I'm really
jealous of people that have access to unions. I, as
an organizer, didn't have access to a union to fight
for the things that I needed. Soever. It's just like,

(24:03):
you know, what's screw it. I'm just gonna take a pause,
focus on myself and figure out what i want to
do next. Nice Ministry. I've been following the NAP Ministry
on Twitter and Instagram. If you don't follow her, She's
all about resting and I'm all about it, nap ministry
and a ministry. Have you both not been following her?

(24:27):
She's amazing. She's been preaching all about like the importance
of napping. It feels silly, but like she talks about
in a political perspective, I need to hear the well
right right right of like how it's I've I've completely
lost sight of like napping in any way. Yeah, I
need to Okay, I'm following that now. I mean, to

(24:49):
this point, I've mostly followed nas on napping. I never
sleep because sleep is a cousin of death, right, so
that's it's the unsustainable I've found that version of that
approach to sleep philosophies. But yeah, I mean this, I'm
I'm reading this David Grabor book, The Dawn of Everything,
and it's like a history of a retelling of history

(25:14):
of like prehistoric humans and also like encounters between you know,
what's been come to what's come to be called Western
culture and other cultures and like this version of humanity
where humans are like deprived of their humanity and like
and their context and like put into these like market

(25:37):
systems that like force them to work kind of and
do things that they don't want to do, Like all
these things that are absolutely like ingrained into us at
a very young age as like being just part of
life are actually like very rare. Uh. And you know,
when the natives in the America's like interacted with the French,

(26:02):
they had like very like poetic, insightful, philosophical like critiques
of American or of French values that like then got
taken by a bunch of you know, European intellectuals and
like that became the Enlightenment. But it's largely like they
they the thing that they did not accept as like

(26:25):
the idea of ownership of anything like that. Yeah, and
then if you don't have nothing like you could you
could be like sucked over, Like that doesn't sound like
freedom at all. And they're like okay, uh sure, and
they walked away. They're like, funk, they were right, man,

(26:45):
let's don't give them credit. Don't give them credit, say
we thought this. Even the writers at the time would
give them credit. And then like other Western intellectuals would
be like, well, they just like said that they got
those ideas from them, But it's actually like clearly them
masking those ideas that they have themselves in the mouths

(27:06):
of the quote savages and the other detail I've talked
about before, but it was it's just like brought up
again in this book that anytime you had Western cultures
interacting with like what they called the savages, the Western like,
there would be a huge, you know problem for Western
societies of people fleeing Western cultures and going to live

(27:31):
with the non Western like what was called going savage.
But basically, like nobody wanted once they saw the two options.
Nobody wanted to live in the you know, European culture.
And the only reason that we ended up with the
one we've got is because of germs. And that's it.

(27:53):
It's not because of like some superiority or whatever the
fuck white supremacists like to believe it was. It was
really called going savage. Yeah, that's what they call it.
Like there's this letter Ben Franklin wrote to a friend
where he was like, we, like the main problem that
we have in the America's is that it seems like

(28:14):
nobody who interacts with like native culture or savage culture
like wants to continue to live amongst us, like they
it's just a it's a one way street, and we're losing.
We're losing people constantly and there's no there's nothing happening

(28:35):
the opposite way, like everybody's just like fuck this. Man,
Like when they when they get a taste of our life,
they don't want our Christianity, they don't want our weird
fucking fiat currencies. What is this? What is the ship? Yeah,
so love like the hater attitude towards it, like another

(28:57):
one David with Savage too. We've got a problem, folks.
We've got a big problem here. Yeah. Like even people
who were like kidnapped in battle, you know, raised with
with the tribe that kidnapped them and killed their family,
they would come back to Western culture and like maybe

(29:18):
last a year and then just like go back because
I mean, because it's truly like to wake up. You know,
in our society, we wake up and the first thing
is like I have to start doing things to live
or I will perish, whereas you know, and anything that
was more communal, it's like, yep, I'm waking up, and

(29:39):
I know that I'm going to contribute to this group thing,
and by doing that, I know other people are acting
in reciprocity that it makes the whole thing work. Because
we're all kind of on the same page and not
having to sweat all this other stuff and ship I
can only imagine how, like, yeah, what what people in
our current times if we gave people like another way

(30:01):
or a new way to think about how society could
function and be curious to see how, you know, how
those things would move. Although pretty strong media apparatus to
kind of keep those kinds of ideas out of here,
do ye know? With all this reminds me of It
reminds me of those white women that would go to
India and then they would find like the ricksha driver
and then get married to the rickshaw driver and then

(30:23):
they would just move to India permanently. Like it kind
of reminds me of the hippies, I guess, like the
hippies from the white hippies from the seventies that would
go to South Asia. What do you think the appeal
was for for those women in terms of like what
the mind means? Yeah, not being a part of Western society.

(30:44):
I guess. I don't know. I've always like kind of
been like why but right, Hey, there's a whole like
ninety day Fiance, right, isn't that show like based on
this kind of like concept yeah. I mean, there is
a woman, Jenny, who is trying to marry her Indian husband,
although he well at every turn find an excuse not

(31:05):
to marry her. Let's spoiler alert, they do. All right,
let's take a quick break, and we will come back
and talk about the pandemic, but probably keep talking about
these ideas in the context of that. And we're back

(31:30):
and we are still in the pandemic. It turns out.
I was feeling very comfortable having you know, the relatives around.
I got my parents coming out for Christmas. I was like,
all right, back to normal. But it feels like, you know,
there's a new variant. Oh micron? Is that am I

(31:51):
pronouncing that? I'm acron? Oh micron? Oh micron sounds like
like the it was on the list of nimes that
the writers of The Terminator of like Jim Cameron put
together for sky Net. Like, but it's yeah, it's it's new.
It's highly transmissible, I guess, but we don't really doesn't

(32:14):
seem like we know that much other than that it's
out there and spreading. No. I mean, I think the
only thing that you can say is that there's a
new variant that does have significant mutations that they're now saying, Okay,
well we need to watch this because the mutations they're
saying with that that means does that make it highly transmissible?

(32:35):
Does that mean it's possible to even evade vaccines? And
you know that our inoculations might not be enough to
deal with this new variant. But it all sounds very bad,
but again we're still very much trying to learn what's
happening and like what do you think about it? There
have been many variants of concern that spring up you watch.

(32:57):
Maybe it is, maybe it isn't, but at the very
least it's worth you know, obviously for the World Health
Organization and anyone everyone who's invested from a scientific perspective,
they're very much looking at this closely. But when you
look at kind of like what the nations are doing,
we're kind of making the same shitty mistakes, like over
and over, these like knee jerk reaction of just saying like, well,

(33:19):
because they South South Africa identified at first in their laboratory,
we're just gonna ban everyone from South Africa and surrounding
countries because that's because they found it. And it's like, okay,
that's just because there they have the like labs to
actually look at this stuff, because not to mention, it's
also been found like in Hong Kong and parts of Europe.

(33:40):
I think it seems like a natural reaction to try
and make your country safer by saying like, Okay, well,
now we gotta huddle up, man, we gotta make sure
we're watching the exits, making sure we know what's coming
in or etcetera. For safety. But if it's that serious,
then like a lot of people are like, why aren't
you testing inbound passengers from these places first, rather than

(34:00):
just saying like, oh, it's a full on band, there's
nothing else we can do. We just gotta stop that.
If it's that serious, then you should actually be screening
people who come in at all to understand, Okay, what's
everyone's relative like risk factor. But again, it just sort
of makes for good optics, not really good essentially, like

(34:21):
a real safety it's not going to affect our safety
because a lot of people pointed out that by the
time a lot of these sort of travel restrictions go
into place, it's already in the country. And the biggest
thing that most people are pointing to is the fact
that rather than just closing the fucking shop door, Why
don't you make it fucking rain vaccines on every fucking country,

(34:42):
because that's really our our way out of this, or
one of our more potent ways out of this, is
to make sure that we're we're able to provide vaccinations
to the developing world rather than treating it like this
like you know, Petrie dish for mutations. Yeah, it seems
like if we just mobilized like it was World War Two,
like we were talking about at the beginning of the pandemic,

(35:03):
and we're just like, all right, this is every all
hands on deck, We're all working to you know, do
whatever we can to get vaccines out. That's that's the
way to stop this thing. It would save millions and
millions of lives. And there's just not the will to
do that, it seems like. And again I think back

(35:25):
to sort of this idea of how disconnected we are,
our lack of even like sense of duty to like
our fellow human beings. It's just sort of, you know,
it's highlighted with this idea where it's the fucking earth
is it's just one big fucking cell. And the idea
that you think you're fucking borders is going to stop anything,

(35:45):
or you know, the country you're born in is going
to prevent things. I mean, to a certain extent that might,
but you know that it runs completely counter to like
how we're supposed to approach this, that if we're we
have to mobilize as human beings, then we should be
making the vaccine as widely available as possible in order
to begin to protect the individual points of contact like

(36:08):
that that allow for a virus to spread. But it
isn't and we're still looking at just this very we're
just watching greeds sort of dictate how we are prevent
or even working within the pandemic. And that's why it's like,
it's so it's such a hard thing to watch too
because a lot of you know, the the viral virologists
and epidemiologists are saying, you know, getting as many people

(36:31):
vaccinated is key, because if you start having these pockets
where no one's vaccinated, it's just it's a playground for
mutations that will then render all the all the research
that was done could be rendered moot because something has
mutated past the point of like what we've been able
to counteract with vaccines and things like that, and you know,
on that tail end of that, while that's just like

(36:52):
very disconcerting because you're like, oh, God, like is it
are we going to fully go back? Because you're already
seeing on conservative media they're like, hey man, and I
think the Democrats, I think they're behind this, Okay, like
they've I think they've got something in hand. Or I
even read stuff from like anti vax people or people
who are like stealth anti vactors who are like secretly vaccinated.

(37:12):
They're like seeing stuff like this, you got a new
variant and now there's gonna there's gotta be more vaccines.
I mean, come on, what's going on here? And I'm like,
that's not an argument, really, that's you're just saying the
idea is inconvenient. But however, you're completely missing the point
that you're in a situation outside of your control. This
isn't that someone is saying like, all right, folks, it's

(37:35):
time for virus season. Now which ones are we going
to give the people? And then, uh, how can we
then make the most money off it? Although that is
a worldview that seems to be pretty popular at the moment,
the micro chipping of people, the great vaccine. You tell
me that the flu mutates every year and I need
a different flu shot every year with Okay, all right,

(37:57):
George Soros like, no, se I don't like this. I
don't like this, So then what's your alternative, Sir. I'm
just not gonna do it, and that's going to protect
you from the virus, I'm hoping. So I'm hoping if
I don't agree with the virus, that's enough to protect me.
So yeah, And it's just it's it's a very again,

(38:20):
very tenuous situation, and we're constantly reminded. I think we
have these moments where it's easy to like exhale and
be like, oh, man, like that's right. I'm I can
kind of be around my elderly relatives or people with
like that are immuno suppressed or whatever. I can just
that it feels a little less risky, and then we're
kind of right back into like worrying about things. But
although I think the main thing that experts saying is like,

(38:42):
please let us do the research. Don't start buying up everything,
don't start panicking, but we do need to just you know,
get a handle in the research. Yeah. Yeah, I do
think that there's like this element of like what's what's real?
Like we know that the government health officials are using

(39:04):
the news to spread awareness about vaccines, so like, and
you have to kind of take it with like a
little grain of salt, like it's these conversations aren't for
us people who are vaccinated. They're really trying to like
scare people who are unvaccinated into getting vaccinated with facts
and figures and just trying to figure out like how
else to do it. So I just like, I don't know,

(39:26):
I mean, it feels really silly to say this way.
I don't know what is real or like it's been
such a hard two years of like the up and
down of like the pin like the virus is awful,
and then now all of a sudden, like we we're
not wearing masks, and then we are wearing masks and
we're traveling and not traveling, and like the whole up
and down of the past two years has been Yeah,

(39:47):
it's been hard to figure out like to make the
proper risk assessments. Sure, yeah, yeah, And it does feel
like and then you'll go to like you'll even go
to like a town over and you're like, oh, nobody
whoars masks here. Yeah, everybody's massed the funk up, And yeah,
like I think there because they're because everything is so

(40:08):
fractured if there's no way to have like consistent messaging.
And then on top of it, yeah, like rightly. So
it's like, well, the same news channel that's telling me
that the labor shortage is causing inflation that I completely
disagree with, is also telling me this other stuff. And
I'm like, Okay, let me compartmentalize because I don't need
your take because you're a Wall Street goon and you're

(40:29):
talking about the economy. Bring the doctor on who's not
a fucking liar. And then you're like, Okay, I like this,
this feels good. I trust the science. And luckily there's
like another recent survey that said, but faith in science
has grown up very significantly over the last year. So
I think we're just living in a one of those

(40:51):
weird places where people like science overall. I think there's
a lot of gratitude. And then to that point too,
is you know, there are you therapeutic drugs for COVID
That seemed very very promising because at this point we've
all just been sort of like, man, if you get
it and it's bad enough. There's only so much that
you can do. But along with like the preventative medicines,

(41:12):
like through vaccines, they're also now therapeutic drugs that are
showing some pretty significant results for people, um like you know,
like when they get a positive test. By taking it,
it really can lessen the damage that the virus can do.
So we got it's it's it's up and down, folks
up and down. H I hope we can figure this
out sooner than later. Yeah, yeah, can we get to

(41:37):
that asap? World were just like kind of you know,
just get rid of the one second I'm trying to
figure out how to get the funk off this rock.
Then I'll get back to you. I mean, I knew
we were in trouble when we lost Russell Brand. Did
you guys hear this? He's an antibax right now? Oh man,
he's so cool, that guy. I mean, he doesn't give

(41:59):
a funk about and anything. So it's like, what, alright,
let's uh, let's take a quick break. We'll be right back,
and we're back and we do you know, we were
talking about how Matthew McConaughey was pulling better than either

(42:23):
candidate in the Texas governor's race, and he had voiced,
you know, interest in running for governor. It feels very
much like, you know, if he was flirting with somebody,
like just in a friendly way and they were like,
we're gonna get married, like he loves me. Yeah. It's

(42:49):
just like, you know, politics is like the star power
here is off the charts. Let's he's into it. Let's
get him in Let's get him in here. And he
was just like, oh no, sorry, I was. I wasn't
serious about that. It is basically where we're at. Yeah,
he I think while many were like, oh wow, look
at that. He's putting a smash on Greg Abbott, he
definitely he had to announce, okay that he's as much

(43:13):
as y'all wanted it, he might not be able to deliver.
He just tweeted from his Twitter account an American flag
emoji with this video clip, Hey everybody, mcca hey here, let'sen.
Over the past two years, I've been working on the
answer to the question of how I can be most
useful in this life going forward, Useful to myself, used
looked to my family, and to the most amount of people.

(43:36):
One category of service I've been exploring his politics. I've
been considering a run for the governor of Texas. I've
been listening, I've been learning and measuring, been studying Texas
politics and American politics. What have I learned a lot?
That we have some problems we need to fix that
are politics needs a new purpose. We have divibes that

(44:01):
need healing. Okay, I mean with trust in our lives,
shining a light on our ship, the cross party lines,
the ones that build bridges instead of burn him, but
our children, Margaret's asset. So hey, let's because good apparents
as we can be Okay, all right? Anyway, so all

(44:23):
that to say like that, that's a three minute long video.
Does he eventually say, but I'm not going to run?
What is all that to be? Like? But I'm off
this look, And I think that's what we should I
think we should have expected nothing less from Matthew McConaughey
because he loves the monologue. He loves the monologue, which

(44:45):
I'm also surprised. That's all you get to do when
you're politician, right, that's what he thought he would only
get to do, is is the governor though? You know? Right?
And then the second, he's like, he's like, I don't know,
I feel like people should decide if they want the vaccine,
but like, what the fun are you talking abou? All right? Um?
Not just it's not just one way monologue like I thought.

(45:06):
So yeah, all that to say is he was just saying,
you know, he's a simple man and you want he
considered the path of political leadership and it's humbling, but
he's deciding to not take it at this moment um.
So he's not going to be throwing his sweat soaked
workout bandana into the ring. Do we think that his

(45:27):
people that were behind him are going to go to
bath Beato? Beato definitely had worse numbers against him, so
that could suggest that there's like more room to grow
with McConaughey leaving the race. But it also feels like,
I mean, like, hey, look, he tried, man, he tried.

(45:47):
Beto tried. I don't know if there's he's going to
get some better strategic behind his campaign to try and make,
you know, get a different result. But I mean it
feels like I think you've we've we've rang that rag dry.
Whatever you're gonna get out of Beto ork In terms
of you know, his his ability to like win in Texas.

(46:09):
I know a lot of people support him, but it
just seems like there may maybe some newer ideas. I
don't know, Yeah, I think generally that's just the problem
with people running Democrats is like it's there's there aren't
many exciting like you know, in terms of like spotlighted candidates,
there's not a lot that you're like, oh, maybe that

(46:30):
got to know, it seems to be coming from like
the newer generation of younger politicians that have like something
a little bit different to offer. Well, who who else
is running? Right? This is the selection is gonna the
primary is gonna be marched first next year. Yeah, I
mean I think it's gonna be Beto or Abbott. And
you know, as a podcast, we haven't decided who we're

(46:52):
going to officially endorsed indoors there. Yeah, I mean it's like,
you know, Beto obviously the less or of two evils,
the far lesser of two evils. So hopefully people do
kind of get in line behind him. I just don't
know like how much enthusiasm there's going to be for

(47:13):
him at this point. But I mean, I don't know
if uh, let's see, I think is Jolie and cashtro my,
how don't he might run? Okay? So I mean, you know,
he used to be the mayor of San Antonio. I
think he might have a He might who knows he
could have a good shot. It's I think when you
just look at sort of the politics there and like

(47:36):
the way campaigns are going to be running, it's hard
to really imagine, like rhetorically, what this thing is gonna
look like and who's going to be best suited when
you're like when you're debating someone who's like books make
little white kids feel bad? Change my mind? And you
know that's sort of where the limits are of the discourse. Yeah,

(47:57):
I mean, as important as that race says, we do
have to move on to an even more important state
based competition, and that is, of course America's favorite Christmas candy,
brought to you by Candy Store dot Com. It is
a you know, another one of those sound it's a

(48:20):
bad map. Fuck these maps. There's something that I probably
couldn't say if it was spawn con but candy store
dot Com fuck them. Yeah, and here's our favorite candy.
But you guys probably go to the page rather than
and again, I sound like I'm just go to the
page and when they ask for your information, just like,
don't that you can trust them, Just surrender it. Yeah,

(48:42):
but it's uh, they did ask twenty three thousand people
from across America what their favorite candy was and then
you know, organize that data based on state cross reference,
sit with manufacturer candy manufacturers to make sure sales back
up the findings, and it's you know, it does feel

(49:02):
like it's a little bit more like rather than the
one the ones where every state has a different like
candy that they like, which I feel like they it
has been edited in order to make it as interesting
as possible. Here, like it's the answers are pretty like
appropriately boring. It's yeah, peppermint bark is like not is king?

(49:26):
Peppermint bark is king? Yeah, I like that it is.
It feels like things if you went to the store
in the candy like Christmas candy section, it's like these
seven things that you're used to seeing because like some
of the other maps, like what's there's favorite thanks Giving
side and there's like these wild esoterrotories like me and
they like candy pigs hooves and you're like what the

(49:47):
fund is that even real? This definitely feels like a
CBS aisle or a while aile of candy, because like
I think there's there's something that are missing, like why
is fudging not on here? Like I feel like, you know,
Holiday fied with peppermint bark, but that's not something you
get it. The main ones you see are like Reese's cups, Sure,

(50:08):
Reese's pieces like in the little or sorry, Rece's pecan
uh in like a candy cane form like a plastic
cone cane or cane. Then like the Holiday colored Hershey kisses.
This all ship that's normal, and the candy canes like
whatever that's like. When I was a kid, I used
to like him because I was like a free sugar

(50:28):
that you could find, like available at a store. But
it always remains me too much a toothpaste. It was
just like, what what this is like a toothpaste popsicle?
Oh look they just hardened this toothpaste and put a
little candy swirl around it. They got me. It's like toothpaste,
except it rots your teeth instead of cleaning them. My
theory is that they that peppermint bark has is they

(50:52):
called it like the hard charging Peppermint Bark because it's
like taking over a bunch of states that used to
be Reese's Cup strongholds. And they're saying that like it's
the biggest grower, and I'm I'm wondering if it's because
they have all this equipment to make candy canes, but
like most of the country has found out that there's

(51:14):
other candy besides candy canes, Like they don't think that
that's the only Christmas candy. So they're like, all right,
what if we dropped it and then just like picked
up the pieces and gluted onto like some low quality chocolate,
Like that's how you got something. I like Peppermint Park.
It's funny because I I haven't had the first time
I had it was like seven years ago. Yeah, it's

(51:36):
I was pretty ignorant to the Peppermint Park game. It's
a new kid. Yeah, but it's like, can we talked
about the reindeer corn? That's honestly, yeah, that's the one
weird one. It's so weird. It's like candy I've never
heard of candy corn in Christmas colors? Yeah, which is
what this is. The Deep South is having a is

(51:57):
having a tough go here on this map, got Louisiana
and Oklahoma are both candy cane strongholds, like one of
the few. And then you've got reindeer corn number one
in Alabama. Reindeer corn is candy corn with different food
color and just a red green lie lie. I mean,

(52:19):
although we're just looking at green and red m and
m's and actually it's a completely different. So okay, fair played,
fair played reindeer corn. I can't hate totally, but yeah,
it looks not good. Also, Florida, what are you doing?
I mean the holiday skittles Holiday mixed skittles, which what
that is? Something I did not I was not aware existed.

(52:40):
I don't know, Like what is a holiday So? Is
it like apples and like oranges and pairs, like the
things that you get in like a fruit gift basket
or something like? What what is a holiday skittles mix
it is? I don't know. I think it could just
be a different um colors. Okay, it's a Christmas flavored now, okay.

(53:05):
So flavors include banana berry, gross Kiwi lime, no thank you, Mango, TAngelo, pineapple, passion, fruit, strawberry, star,
fruit berry punch melonberry, raspberry, strawberry, and wild cherry. So
there's a lot going on there. So it's like from
the Blue pack, right, isn't that? Aren't those the blue
Skittles flavors? From the Blue pouch? Okay, so you know

(53:27):
what this is. I was that I was actually reading
a Skittles mashups wild berry and tropical candy. So ignore
everything I just said, but don't edit it out, please.
It's important to me that everybody here how stupid I am. Okay.
It also looks like has Haez has made the list?

(53:49):
Oh where they Who's pets? Uh? Their second and third
in Louisiana, New Mexico, New Jersey. I gotta say I
was a big Pezz fan growing up. This is a
great stocking stuffer. Yeah. Yeah. I like pez because it's
like it was like a toy, you know what I mean,
Like it was the closest thing because you'd be like, oh, ship,

(54:09):
look it's sucking Superman or fucking Gumby. Yeah. I think
that I have a Gumby pest dispense. Anyway, all that
to say, that's like these kinds of candies, though, I
feel like chocolate should be king of the Holidays. But
I'm very biased. Okay, so what are your favorite holiday candies?

(54:31):
Many Reese's Cups, Reese's pecs, any any eminem Do they
have to be in that like triangle like like the
tree or do you like just generic circle? Oh yeah,
you need actually take the little and take the little
mini cups and build a life size Christmas tree out
of them and then just eat it as fast as

(54:54):
I possibly can, bit by bit. I love like Peppermint Bark.
I'll eat that ship all day because it reminds me
like Andy's chocolate. Yeah, that's and I think as a
kid that was like my favorite little kind of you know,
rapper chocolate that you could get with like at someone's
house or whatever, at a grandparents home. So yeah, Peppermint

(55:16):
Bark involks that. I'm also I like thin mint, so
like you know, mint chocolate chip ice cream. Whenever you're
mashing mint and chocolate together, I'm I'm I'm, I'm here
for it. You know who is fucking up is Andy's
and whoever's in charge of their marketing, because Andy's should
be here instead of Peppermint park or and he should
have Peppermint Bark exactly should York peppermint patties be here.

(55:38):
Yeah they're Yah York and Andy's they need to be like,
you know, squat up and then pull up to Peppermint
Bark's house and just spray the ship out that place,
you know what, I mean, to let him know it's war.
So I'm I'm Arkansas has a new winner and it
is Starburst Mary Mix. Cherry Cheer and Strawberry blitz In

(56:03):
are the two flavors. And it's all red and green.
Just added a word to the regular flavor and the green.
Come on, y'all, what are you doing here? I mean, look,
it's all marketing, but Peppermint Bark number one. Yeah, well,
shout out to Peppermint Bark and and you know whatever.

(56:24):
A candy executive was like dropped a can through a
candy cane and fury at how bad sales had become
and then like saw the shattered pieces and we're like, everybody,
sit down. I got an idea. Sounds like it sounds
like a plot to a Hallmark Christmas movie. Yeah right,
I mean, Miles, how are you doing? By the way,

(56:47):
I feel like I like I fall I'm falling down
on the job asking you this late in our first
post Thanksgiving episode, How are you feeling about the coming
Hallmark Christmas movie season coming? It's been happening for the
past month. I haven't really I haven't checked out the
Hallmark stuff. I started off by trawling Netflix for the

(57:07):
ones Netflix has made. I watched The Prince that Christmas
Switched three with Vanessa Hudgens a little. It's just you
know that one's getting away from him, you know. I
hate to hate to say that one's gotten completely away
from I don't know what the point is of it
and how it relates to Christmas. I watched the other
one with Jimmy oh Yang and Nina Dobrev kind of

(57:30):
bailed on it, like I do if I'm not working
with it. By the end of the second act, I'm like,
I don't even need to see a third act. I'm
off because I just like the vibes. And then I
watched another one that was about Santa's daughter who avoid
This one was well Santa's daughter. It's like treated like
a Shakespearean thing, where like they have to like she's

(57:50):
almost being betrothed to the Jack Frost family in order
for Santa and Frost to like have a tight bond,
but then there was also like talk of like teaming
up with the tooth Fairy. It was a very bizarre thing.
So her solution is just to go to college and
trying to be a regular person. Got it, Got it,
And that one was super all over the place. But overall, yeah,

(58:12):
I'm I'm fully in it. Is there are there any
good Hallmark ones tests coming out? Yeah? I just watched
the first Indian full cast one last night. It's called
what was called Baking Spirits Bright and it's about like
this like South Indian woman who's making her mom, sorry
her nannies plumb fruitcake and so they have this whole

(58:35):
like fruitcake business. Um, I don't know, I'm I'm obviously
for people that know, like I'm really into Hallmark movies
for I don't know why. And it was it was
cool to finally see representation homework. There's usually more representation
in Lifetime Christmas movies than homework, but it's been cool
that one was Okay. There's also like Boyfriends of Christmas

(58:57):
Past with as an Asian American female protagonist and her
love and triests are all multiple racist, so that was
also cool. Yeah, that's like the one with the Jimmy
Oh Yang one. I was like, okay, I'm like they
got him and the one from What's uh never have
I ever that guy who was like the Japanese guy.
So I was like, okay, look at look at the

(59:20):
That was the thing I've always been like, when are
we going to see Asian people in these movies? When
I feel like we're making it, like a turn has
been made and maybe our scripts will finally get picked up,
and that what I mean to ask you. You said
you were working on a script. I didn't want to
be like, is that the Holiday movie one? Or you know,
my holiday script is done? I wrote the Mary mus

(59:42):
some Christmas rom con rom com back in I just
pandemic happened And I don't really know how to sell scripts,
but hopefully can do something now. Um Marst Harvest Entertainment
they take all the time, yeah there because they do
all they do a ton in the christ movies. Are
you working on a on a Christmas group? I was

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that we pitched it. We I pitched it to them,
it didn't work out, didn't work out, they passed on it, boo.
And then I kind of see, you know, I kind
of see my idea popping up with other stuff. I'm
not saying that thing, but I will say that it's
also very though. The creativity amongst the Christmas films is
pretty limited. So there's a there's two colors that you're

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working with, red and green, and you're you're starburst can
be green and red or red and green. There's a
new one coming out on Comedy Central next week that
features to Indian girls and it's kind of like I
think how Pens in it too, So it's like a
do wllly Christmas mashup. What is your favorite Christmas movie? Lifetime,

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Hallmark or otherwise otherwise it's Edwards is your hand? Mm
hmm Edwards hand the prequel, the prequel where he's only
got one hand and still pretty good. He doesn't have
face scissor this other hand. Oh man, that was That

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is exactly what my dad would call it. He can't
he can't get pluralizing anything. Brad Pitt is Brad Pitts
and Edward scissor hands is Edward scissor hand for Edwards
Edwards scissor. That would be if there were multiple if
there was a multiplicity type situation and multiple Edwards scissor hand.

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What's your what's your outlier Christmas movie? Jacksie's die Hard.
I mean that's such a whack answer. But die Hard
was for you know, the portion of my life when
I was thought I was too grown up to say
Johns was my favorite movie. I said die Hard was
my favorite movie. So I do really love die Hard.
Also really love die Hard too, which is pretty absurd
and over the top and also very Christmas eve. But yeah,

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I mean I think I like that classics you're scrooged. Yeah,
what's funny because the movie Love Hard with Jimmy oh Yang,
it's called Love Hard because like kind of one of
the sort of thrust of it is like they bond
over their love for die Hard as a Christmas film,
and it's meant to sort of be like this hot

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take that like she's like, no one believes me until
you and the whole the whole conceited is kind of interesting.
This dude, Jimmy O Yang, you know from Silicon Valley
probably remember him. He basically was cat fishing Nina dough
Brev with another dude's picture and she thought she was
like with this like other guy and so, and they've
like they kicked up. They hit it off over phone

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and text and ship like that, and then he's like, hey,
why don't you come to He's like, or he didn't invite.
He said, oh, I wish I could spend the holidays
with you, and she took that as I'm gonna go
surprise him until she pulls up and realized he's like,
you are not the gentleman from the fucking photo, and
that's where the hijinks and sue. But she's she's acting
like this is the first she's ever heard of somebody

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claiming that die It is the holiday is a Christmas
heavy Wait no, I mean like her thing is like
she argues with people who don't believe that die Hard
is a Christmas movie, and then they're like, it is
a Christmas movie. It's the perfect Christmas movie, and you're like, okay,
thank you, very specific my outlier pick for Christmas movie.
I guess if it's an outlier, I don't know, bad Santa,

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it's still it's there's something about how fucked up he is,
and it puts me in the holiday spirit and more
traditionally love jingle all the way I've never seen Oh
my god, Jack you gotta get a Turboman doll for
your kid. You're gonna be a bad dad that one.

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And also Home Alone too, man, I like New York.
I love New York in the winter's too heavy. Also,
I think it's the idea of I think as a kid,
I like the autonomy in the city as a child
that Kevin experienced in Home Alone too, and be like,
oh look at you like duping people with your talk
boy and ship. Yeah, and I thought that was really cool.

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And uh, also the idea that you could just get
room service and eat a bunch of ice cream. It
just still resonates with my childish brain. And you said
that it's your favorite cameo of all time? Is Donald Trump?
Donald Trump showing up? And you said that's when you
knew it was a star. He said, that's when I said.
I remember as a kid, I said, this guy about
to be the president. What's the matter? Store wouldn't accept

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your stolen credit card? Is a fun movie? Quote? Yeah,
they only let Trump onto that movie because they wanted
to film in the plaza, Like that was the stipulation. Yeah.
He was like, deal, if if I'm if I can
play Kevin? Uh what I mean, or just show up,

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you know whatever. If you don't like me for the role,
it's fine, I'll just show up. Perfect idea. He passes me.
We lock eyes. He realizes I'm him in the future.
I realized that's me as a boy, and then we
can go off on a whole other narrative where I'm
the King of New York sticky bandits put him in
jail forever. And there's a new Home Alone too with

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like a little kid. It's on Disney Plus, I haven't
watched it yet. Yeah, And is it Anna Kendrick in
it too? Yeah? Yeah, but that one, is it still
in the tradition of the Home Alone? You know? I
think so. I think. I'm not sure if they're trying
to redo the first one or if it's like the

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third chapter Ellie Kemper h Ellie Kemper, Archie Yates, Hey,
Ashley b past guests, Rob Delaney, Pete Holmes. But yeah,
that one, I think that came out earlier this or
last month. And yeah, they whoa Mikey Day I guess
wrote this too, So they've got a lot of interesting

(01:05:55):
comedy things going on there. But that one says a
married couple tries to steal back a valuable loom from
a troublesome kid and a very spirit of Christmas. The
Wets are a married couple. Now, I mean, if that's
not progress, I guess it's not. Anyways, has such a
pleasure having you on the show as always, Where can

(01:06:17):
people find you and follow you? I'm always down to
talk about Christmas movies. I am at Tasi star on
on the socials. I'm actually out in a book that
just came out a couple of weeks ago. I have
a story in this book called New Moons, Contemporary Writing
by North American Muslims. So you can find me in
a bookstore too. I got New Moons. Is there a

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tweet or some of the work of social media you've
been enjoying? Alright, tweet I've been enjoying because we're still
on residual Thanksgiving There from at Daniel Suliman. Fact of
the Day. Pumpkin pie became a popular dish during Civil
War era celebration of Thanksgiving because pumpkins were grown on

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small farms, not plantations, making the pie a symbol of
abolitionists virtue thought. And then it continues. The thread continues
with the history of abolitionist history of Thanksgiving. I thought
that was really interesting, the persistence of turkey and pumpkin pie,
even though they're both you know, fine, but it's inspired

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that the people continue to funk with punkin pie and turkey,
all these generations at miles where can people find you
and follow you on? What's a tweet you've been enjoying?
Find me on Twitter and Instagram and miles of gray.
Also the other show for twenty Day Fiance obviously feel
like ninety day. Come listen to me yell about that. Uh.
This one is from Lauren Huff at Lauren the Huff

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h o U g H. And again to your point
Tazz about sort of this this hangover from the holidays,
and again I think intersecting with just kind of having
boundaries when you're working. This one says, none of y'all
motherfucker's better be answering email on Sunday night, we are
not ending the weekend early. Hold the line, which is true, like,

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come on, y'all, give yourselves fucking time. You can actually say, yeah,
I'm not looking at this ship till much old, old old,
I mean, whenever you can just really hold your boundaries
because that's all we got right now. All right, let's
see some tweets I've been enjoying Miami. They tweeted everyone

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who didn't post their Urban Dictionary names should get one
hundred dollars. It's about, tweeted. Funny men attract hot women
and funny women attract hate comments on Twitter, and then
Whitmer Thomas tweeted, I just want to feel what the
guys singer in the b F F T twos feels
And I just put that guy's blood in my veins.

(01:08:52):
I would, I mean mouth who who could be? Yeah?
Fuck that man? If they could bottle up that red energy.
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think you might enjoy. Song do we think people might enjoy? Oh?
This one? This is a very interesting rap track by
Bug Maine and porka bat and it's called coco Pelli.

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I just think of the like coco Pelli, but these
guys like it sounds like they sampled maybe some like
inking like like ruby and pam flute kind of band stuff,
and like the chorus of like I follow me I
on coco Pelli. It's it's kind of a weird list.
It's just kind of a fun song. I mean, although

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I have not looked into the lyrics too much because
they're not singing a whole lot, but this is Coco
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