NYPD vs Waze, 21 Being Treated Savagely 2.8.19

In episode 326, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Katia Kvinge to discuss how the NYPD wants Waze to stop snitching on them, Campbell's soup trying to own the word "chunky," the new Beetlejuice Broadway musical, the truth behind 21 Savage's ICE detention, Tucker Carlson's thoughts on economic populism, medicare for all, the connection between Coco and Marie Kondo, and more!

FOOTNOTES:

1. Cops Insist Waze Users Stop Snitching on DWI Checkpoints (Updated)

2. Campbell’s trademarks “chunky,” all other soups now “lumpy” and “with large bits”

3. ‘Beetlejuice’ Sets Broadway Cast: Alex Brightman, Sophia Anne Caruso To Star

4. 21 Savage and the False Promise of Black Citizenship

5. IMMIGRATION DETENTION CONDITIONS

6. What Does Tucker Carlson Know That the Republican Party Doesn’t?

7. TOP NANCY PELOSI AIDE PRIVATELY TELLS INSURANCE EXECUTIVES NOT TO WORRY ABOUT DEMOCRATS PUSHING “MEDICARE FOR ALL”

8. We can figure out universal coverage without Medicare-for-all

9. WATCH: Stan Getz - Saudade Vem Correndo

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season sixty eight, Episode five,
Judge Zeitgeist Podcast, where we take a deep dive intue
American share kind of just as this Friday, February eight,
two thousand nine, team and names Jack O'Brien a k oh,
whoa brun Oh? Whoa brun den? And and and then
and then and and that for you U, the heat

(00:21):
is on. I don't know the lyrics, just that oh
part and I'm sure to be joint as always buy
my co host, Mr Miles Yes at Miles of Gray
a k A hashtag what's wrong with Miles Gray lazily
robbed from some promotional hashtag Twitter recommended that is spot
on at Roman King. Yeah, so shout out to the

(00:42):
movie The Prodigy for using my name. Okay, but it's
you know, look, Miles is are having a good year
a year right now with the Spider Verse. You got
Miles Morales okay, and I got this sick kid, Miles. So, uh,
the years looking good, I think at least for some Miles. Yeah,
and it's not like a Trump of kids who does
something pretty and realistic. I'm pretty sure he's like a

(01:05):
ghost or possessed by the devil or. I think that's
what's on the trailer. Yeah, yeah, he's uh the undead. Well,
when you use the hashtag, it shows like a boy
with a half human half DEMONI face. So I'm assuming
maybe it's a commentary on mixed phrase kids. Probably almost.
My grandmother would say, she's like, that's that Japanese. Yeah,

(01:26):
I mean I assumed. And we're started to be joined
by the hilarious comedian and performer Katia Covinge. Welcome back
to the U S. Yes, I like the always stop
in when whenever you're in country. Where did your travels
take you? Uh where? Not to America? No? No? Before Um,

(01:48):
well I was back in London, but I did a
tour around Europe, so I did a bunch of shows,
did nine countries in four weeks. So it was nut
to chill, but it was really great experience. And uh yeah,
just then did the refringe and um back in Lea. Yeah,
the weather is yeah, I've brought this, thank you. I

(02:12):
love it gives me a reason to wear hoodies and jackets,
which I don't get to. I just wear it in
the A C buildings. All right, Katya, we're gonna get
to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we're
talking about today Today. We're talking about the showdown between
the NYPD and Ways. I'm team Ways, but I'm sure

(02:34):
they're you know, they're they're probably an evil tech company
that I think they're owned by Google. Actually, yeah, so
team Google. I mean they said at the outset don't
be evil and have stuck to that perfectly. We're gonna
talk about Campbell's wanting to own the adjective chunky. We're
gonna talk about Beetlejuice the musical. Uh not really, just

(02:57):
that is a thing. We're gonna talking about the twenty
one Savage deportation meme. It was kind of it's kind
of been memed all over the social networks, but it's
it's actually a kind of a fucked up story that
is representative of a fund up thing that is happening
in America. So we're gonna talk about that. We're gonna
talk about Tucker Carlson going economically populist and just why

(03:23):
that's a weird fit, but also why that is probably
the move right now. Uh, And we'll talk about medicare
for all and why that looks like it's going to
get bloody. But first, Katya, we like to ask our guest,
what is something from your search history that's revealing about
who you are? Oh? I don't know if it's revealing.
I guess we'll be d I was looking through my

(03:47):
search history, and my most recent search was there's this
guy who makes loads of art of spoons. Oh yeah,
I have no idea. I get his name though, Yeah,
spoon and creations. That's the guy there is. He makes
like clocks and juicilary and stuff out spoons and like

(04:08):
fun head gear. So it looks like you've got a
pencil going through your head or or have her. It's
like proper dad jokes. Yeah, so are you? Is just
something you're gonna work into your set. Yeah, good old
process like spoon musical, like like climbing the foods together
like that, right on the spoon guy some early Steve

(04:32):
Martin though he did he did arrows through the head stuff. Yeah,
where that got him might be. I'm surprised people don't
how many we're the prop comedians. Yeah, we're the good,
the acceptable prop comedians. Are there people? Do you people doing?
I heard there's one guy in l A. I want
to say. His name is like Carrot Top or something.

(04:53):
I don't know. He he does a lot of I'm sorry,
I mean vegans. Yeah, he does loads of props. Yeah,
he'll hold up a T shirt and and whatstond I
have no idea what I like whatever that was. Yeah,
I I just picture all of his jokes somehow involving
a giant pair of scissors and some white like some

(05:14):
sort of just putting on like a small T shirt
and just flexing it off like yeah, because I heard
he's like really muscly. Now, oh yeah, he is a jacket.
That's what Vegas will do to. Yeah, what is something
you think is underrated? Uh? Well I have for overrated.

(05:35):
Underrated kind of the same thing like, um, well, well
so for overrated, um I think kind of like people
out here talk a lot about manifesting. So last time
I was in l A, I was like, okay, like
the secret, like, I'll try manifesting. And when I was
doing this tour around Europe, I was listening to meditation
tape and it was all about like attracting love into
your life. And I had my eyes closed and when

(05:57):
I opened my eyes. There was a guy across from
me wine king looking it was manifesting too hard and
you guys didn't an't auspicious beginning. Yeah, but I was
also thinking like Scottish people, like I used to do
a joke about how like whenever like in the BBC news,
they'll be like, oh, the Olympics and Scottish people that

(06:19):
it's overrated. Well I was a royal family that it's overrated,
or like oh it's the napocat lives are like it's overrated.
But there's this like brand of drink called Iron Brew
and it's the slogan is like phenomenal, So they're like,
I'm phenomenal, but like iron Brew, this is from my
underrated um. They actually are in Scotland. It's the only

(06:40):
country where I'm brewing out sells Coda Cola really b
are you right? Yeah? I R and b are you
And it's like an orange drink and it tastes kind
of like bubble gum fantasy Land. It's really bizarre. But
it's not an alcoholic beverage. No, No, it's like room.

(07:00):
So like I know, American marketing makes that be like
it's for fucking guys. Who eat molten steel, you know,
just sipping in iron brew. The most popular drinking bars
in Scotland is iron brew and vodka. So okay, yeah,
you'll do those. What do they call that together? Yeah? Yeah,
it's like so sugarly, so caffeinated. Is there a nickname

(07:21):
for iron Brew with vodka? I have no idea. Give
me IBV real quick. Now does Mountain Dew exist? I
actually think it might be banned because I think something
about I mean, maybe it does exist now, but I
remember it being that when I was a kid, I'd
come out to America and be like, oh I love

(07:41):
Martain Dew, and then I was never allowed to get
it in the UK. Yeah. That's probably for the best, yeah,
because there are so many American products that are branded
in Europe because of being unhealthy and or like chemicals.
Right well, because we all know Europeans are soft and
they care about their people. So yeah, we just it's
about freedom here. So if I want to drink chemicals

(08:04):
that you know, we're used for paints, then fine. Yeah.
If I want cancer, I want cancer. That's my cancer.
It's from smoking, okay America? Uh oh, so that's the underrated?
Is iron Brew? All right, I need to check this
ship out. Yeah is it? It's not available anywhere, right,
you could maybe in the United States. There's probably someplace.

(08:26):
It's like importing it. The most they have is like
like Irish name, but it's a Scottish pub supposedly that
one in l A. Oh, it's really wow. Let's look.
You know, we're not good with brains here, you know,
we just say it. Well it sounds like over there Celtic. Yeah.

(08:47):
What is a myth? Finally? What's something people think it's true?
You know to be false? Yeah? Well I find this
really interesting because I love watching like Blue Planet and
Planet Earths, like with David at and Brown, and I
found out that all the sounds of the animals you hear,
like obviously the sounds that you hear the animals make
their actual but say one's like it would be like
a lizard crawling on sand. They have to it's not

(09:08):
the actual sounds that they create, so they put it
all in later and fully, like I was listening to
it last night and it was like one of it
was like this fish that kind of goes our own land,
And I was like, oh, this just sounds like lettuce
on a wood board like this is yeah, it's really interesting,
like it's Celery and a shammy hit, like yeah, listen
to it. You'll watch it now and be like I

(09:30):
can all I can see is Celery. And did you
see how Netflix got David Edinburgh to do their version
of Planet Earth. Yeah, so they've they've just nicked him
from the BBC to do their own version called Our Planet. Yes,
oh no way. I do find his voice like a
smr like I fall asleep to it. Yeah, it sounds
like if a blanket were a voice. Yes, a nice

(09:53):
woven if you turn the volume down really low, he's
like whispering, like as you see the dinosaurs, Like that
would be amazing if you know a dinosa, it would
all be from memory. Yeah, I was there. Like the
BBC's version is like objective Planet Earth and Netflix is
like our motherfucker. Yeah that's the UK versus America. Like

(10:16):
this is fact and it's like, well what we see.
I've actually been helping out my friends preschool and so
many other things to friends with the preschool student, yeah,
a teacher and so many things. She teaches the kids
and it's like did you know that the owl's birth
and egg, like everything is so fantastical and amazing, and
when we were tired, it was like the owls making

(10:37):
egg and how it is, Yeah exactly whereas here everything's
like and then then for three long weeks, yeah exactly so,
And to me, the kids are like wow, and I'm like,
that's just life, Like, that's just how it works. It's
kind of cute, like guys are a matter of fact,

(10:57):
right and shuts out an egg and it's over it.
It makes a baby, and who knows what happens. Let's
the evolutional life, I guess right. Let's talk about the
NYPD verse ways. Yeah, wasts? Do you still use ways?

(11:20):
I use ways sometimes it's actually good. I think in
certain areas it's good. And at certain times, you know,
like l A is can be such a clusterfuck traffic
wise that sometimes ways can give you a bit of
an out to try and avoid traffic. Other times it
will just send you in a man all the left
turns like unprotected left turns. Nope, don't like that, especially

(11:41):
not in l A a rush hour. But I mean,
for the most part it has its uses, and the
time might get an uber driver that's like I'm going
to use wasys. I'm like, this is gonna be a
long journey because I feel like it always goes like yeah,
it can be it can be weird. Yeah, sometimes it
can take you way out of the way when it
could be like okay, yeah, maybe I save four minutes,
but we went like a mile out of the way

(12:03):
and you're adding distance, so whatever. But you know, for
people don't know, like on ways, you can do stuff
like be like you can add like flag like oh
there's a pothole here where there's construction, or there's a
dead end, or or that's the sound of the police.
There's a d UI checkpoint or d w I checkpoint
depending on what part of the country you're in for
you know, for them to stop drivers to make sure

(12:25):
no one is drink driving, as you say in the UK,
is that what? Yeah? I actually used to cycle around
l A and everyone thought I had a d U
I I'm like, no, I'm just British. I like that assumption. Yo,
I think has a drinking problem. She bikes everywhere like um,

(12:47):
But yeah, so on ways, I guess the New York
police were really kind of not feeling it because they
noticed a lot of people were sort of marking where
d w I checkpoints are. So they hit them with
like a really intimidating letter, like legal letter. It said,
individuals who post the location of d w I checkpoints
maybe engaging in criminal conduct, since such actions could be
intentional attempts to prevent and or impair the administration of

(13:09):
the d w I laws and other relevant criminal and
traffic laws. So basically saying, like them posting it is irresponsible,
blah blah blah. Google's argument is like, you know, look,
we're just trying to let other drivers alert people to
things on the road. Like they say that when, for example,
when they tell people about like speed traps or things
like that, by putting that there, it might help a
driver or most likely would help a driver make a

(13:31):
safer decision knowing that this is a thing. But on
the other end of the d w I it's harder
to make that argue, Yeah, that just is helping drunk people, right, Well,
I think that's also but I think that's where it
kind of becomes like a First Amendment issue where it's like, well,
you can tell people that if you're merely saying I'm
trying to avoid traffic rather than I'm trying to enable
people who are drunk and driving. But at the end

(13:54):
of the day, I mean I in no way I
think we should make it easy for people who might
be drunk to be like, well, okay, better avoid that
part of town and then just drink and drive in
this part it's right, So we'll see where where it goes,
what what legal steps happen next. Yeah, that is interesting.
I've been waiting for this ever since the first time

(14:15):
that I avoided a speed trap with ways, and I
was like, oh, but that can't be good for cops,
Like cops cannot be okay with that. I think in
l A though, the thing that people really hate about
ways is like suddenly there's traffic on streets that were
never like thoroughfares, like you know what I mean, Like,
especially in the hills, there are people who have like

(14:36):
aggressive signs like if you came here because the ways
just turned around the streets too narrow, and you're like, okay,
whoa thank you my street. Like back when I lived
in Westwood, our street would just every once in a
while have standstill traffic going all the way up it
because like a ways, right, it was like to avoid
traffic like you couldn't. Yeah, it was just crazy. It

(15:00):
was like a traffic jams. And some neighborhoods have gotten
who are so on the ball or just have connections
to city hall. Well, actually I've noticed, like when I
was really using it, when I was commuting like from
the west side to the valley and back and forth
and was really taking advantage of side streets. They got
signage up to be like during like rush hour, like
not like from seven to nine, at seven to nine

(15:20):
and from four to seven you can come through this street.
And I'm like, wow, that happened quick. Wonder what city
council member lives here right exactly. Let's talk about the
word chunky. Okay, what do you have to say? Uh,
I don't make it's a good way to describe your cabs.
Thank you are God, like I think. Uh no, So

(15:42):
Campbell's is trying to I guess trademark or yeah, I
guess they did successfully trademark the word chunky. Yeah, because
I think they saw other people using chunky on like
the labels of their soups like Progress. So okay, and
they're like, look, chunky is our fucking that's our brand
our Campbell's fucking brand. Donovan McNabb's mom did not go

(16:04):
through all that trouble for us to be here, because
I think that wasn't that like one of the first time.
I mean, it's been happening for a while, but I
remember Donovan mcmcnabb's mom like made a career was NFL quarterback?
Do yes, he sounds like he could be British? Yeah yeah,

(16:25):
um yeah, like where his mother was like this is
his secret, I'm serving him soup in the locker room
or whatever. And I think they were just saying like, look,
we don't like other brands closing in on Chunky because
you know if most people people, They had some weird
numbers saying that a lot of people associate the word
chunky with the Campbell's brand, and like to this finding

(16:46):
to try and get their trademark approved. They brought all
kinds of stuff like articles from like the Onion to
like SNL sketches to all these things to be like
Chunky is Campbell's. Where they even pulled up with wu
tang lyrics to show you that Chunky and Campbell's are
fucking hand in hand. So they took a lyric from
a ghost face killer track Murder Goons where he said,

(17:09):
leave your brand all chunky, like I'm advertising soup for
Campbell's and they said, oh that's not enough. Well how
about this one from Return of Theodore Unit where he
said Chunky and I talking chicken noodle soup. Yes, so
ghost face. I feel like, if anything, why don't they
give a ghost face up with some know they should
just make him their brand spokespers. Yeah, I mean he
would probably be a little a little too wild for

(17:30):
the Camels. But like, as a brit you don't really
have we don't have Campbell's soup as much. So I
just think of like Chunky is and like, oh no,
I'm feeling about Chunky should lay off the fries. Yeah,
is there is there? Canned soup is canned super big?
We have like Heightens is our one like the German brand? Yeah,
that's our hens tomato soup, hands some vegetable soup. Wait

(17:52):
from there from the Usberg Yeah yeah yeah, that's our
catch up. Yeah yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah
yeah yes. Um but yeah, so you know they've they've
gotten their trademark and but it only pertains the soup.
I mean they're clear on that that's the thing that
happens in the US. T Mobile tried to trademark and
I think succeeded that color magenta. They were just like,

(18:15):
nobody else can use that now for anything. Yeah, They're like,
this is our like cmy K number or whatever, that
very specific color code is yes, uh, and that I
think it's succeeded because anytime I see that color, I
do associate it with T Mobile, and that's called the branding.
Babic is how you win in America. Let's talk Beetle Juice. Yeah,

(18:38):
I mean I only but only say it once. Okay,
then vital Geiss. They they've set their Broadway cast. I
don't know who any of these people are, but I
just like the idea that there's a Beetle Juice musical.
I don't normally don't care for musicals, but the visually

(18:59):
Beetle Juice as a kid really captured my imagination, from
like the wacky house that was in there to the
Harry Belafonte sequence. But yeah, there's like a full on musical.
I mean it makes sense. I guess on one side,
I'm like a Beetle Juice musical, and then I'm like, yeah,
actually Beetle Juice, I think is perfect fodder for a musical.
This is so weird because the two songs I just

(19:21):
added to my son's playlist are the Harry Belafonte song
and the Heat Is On. So today is influenced by
my son's playlist. So you've manifested things. I am manifesting
things just with sheer intention. Uh wait, so you're saying
this is the beetle Juice, this is about him as
a child, or you were saying that you as a

(19:44):
child as a child as a child, Yeah, because yeah,
being an eighties baby, you're like, wow, Yes, it was
a very good movie that like I don't know Michael
uh Keaton. Keaton's performance like now stands out to me
as like, wow, that was a really good comedic performance.
But like he hasn't really gone there in a in

(20:05):
a long time. I don't feel yeah, I feel like
that's something in his bag. He has not gone into
you sees SNL, But he did SNL as a host
once and he did this bit where he held a
baby chick to chicken nugget and was like trying to
get the baby chick to eat the chicken nuggets. So disgusting,
but he was like playing dark characters and it was
so good, right, yeah, yeah, because even in his really

(20:28):
good performances, you can tell he has really good comedic
chops because there's a level of you know, comedic started
as a stand up maybe really really so yeah yeah,
I mean, but now it's funny. It's like Beetlejuice as
a dude would be like the grossest fucking human, right,
but look, he's beetle Juice. He's sucking dead and he
hangs out with shrunken head dudes in that weird waiting room.
That scene always sucked me up right, that that weird

(20:50):
explorer who had a shrunken head. I was always like, yeah,
it scared me. It's too scary. I haven't seen it
since I don't know if the movie I haven't seen
in thirties something years. That is definitely a movie that
has a very like outsized place in my consciousness that
just hit me at the right time. Oh yeah, and
the groups like because if it's like our general area,

(21:15):
it must be. But it was a thing for the
longest time, like I guess, you know, like there was
a fucking when I first heard about it, I thought
they were talking about the Beetlejuice Rock and Roll Graveyard
Review Live show that you have a Universal Studios. It
was like that was the first Beetle Juice musical or
dude came out of costume and did really lame shit. Um,
but yeah, I don't know, I think it was. I mean, like,

(21:36):
I think there was a cartoon, There were toys, there
was a whole like you know secondary, Yeah, did Beetle
Juice make it over to where? Yea Halloween? You see
all the girls in the like striped pinsuit pants. Yeah,
character the one on a writer character or as just

(21:58):
as Beetle, But he's not a girl. I know. That's
what I'm telling you. They got socialism over there. Women
are dressed like Beetle. T all right, we're gonna take
a quick break. We'll be right back, and we're back.

(22:29):
And so there was this fun news story earlier this
week about twenty one Savage being deported and it was
funny because it turns out he's from the UK and
nobody expected him to be from the UK, and there
was all sorts of yeah it was I mean, it
was the headlines itself made people laugh because I thought

(22:49):
of this rapper who's from Atlanta, purportedly who you know,
had this very storied life in Atlanta. Like, wait, turns
out has a UK passport, overstated his visa and is
now getting to worried. Ha ha ha. And I look,
I'm guilty of laughing at that too. But the more
that story develops and we actually sort of, you know,
as I realized how fucked Ice is in general, I'm like, wait, no,

(23:09):
this is actually a very very not funny story at all.
So on Sunday, right before the Super Bowl, like during
you know, but I think if they say started as
a traffic stop, they say that he was arrested during
a quote targeted operation with federal and local law enforcement.
They described the incident as use Immigration and Customs enforcement

(23:29):
arrested unlawfully present United Kingdom national is given name of
Shiah Ben Abraham Joseph. They also went as far as
to like further comment to say, like his whole public
persona is false, which is a very weird thing. I
don't know, because he's from the UK and not this
Atlanta rap. It's a really really weird story because the

(23:51):
Ice rarely would comment on anything beyond the facts of
a detainee Immigration and Customs Enforcement, uh, the unnecessary immigration
police that have only been around like two thousand three
and are just meant to harass sort of immigrant populations,
or if you're on the right, you're like they're enforcing
our laws for people who come in here the right way. Again,

(24:13):
the whole there's a lot of just weird stuff around it.
You know. They want they painted him as like a
like a convicted felon and all these other things. When
he was caught up in a drug charge I think
when he was a miner, but that was expunged from
his record, and they're holding him without bond, which is
very bizarre because all of the details around his immigration,

(24:33):
like most people will have been released at this point,
because he was actually brought here at like age seven
and has you know, like like any dreamer would have
been as a miner, and you know, lost track of
his visa stuff. He's been applying for a visa. All
of his family members have like all their h immigration
status stuff sorted out. He's so he's been known to DHS.

(24:56):
It's not like he's been sort of trying to like
skirt the law or anything. He's the process of obtaining
a visa, which is really strange for them to try
and detain him. And you know, again when you sort
of look at sort of what ICE has been up
to um and like the last year or like ending
in September of last year, there the ICE ordered about
you know, close to three thousand deportations and African immigrants

(25:19):
are representing the biggest proportional spike within this group. And
I think, you know, this is the ship the whole
country era of immigration. And there's also elements of retribution
because five days before he was detained, he was on
Fallon and was making comments about the border, like border security,

(25:40):
like the laws that were pursuing are just like what
you know, He's just he's basically saying like that this
whole thing is a fucking joke, and like why the
fund are we focused on this? Also, Flint, Michigan doesn't
have water. He was just really sort of outspoken about this.
So a lot of people are like, this is really
a disproportionate response to what has happened, and I don't know,
it just sort of seeps into this other thing of

(26:01):
like America's pattern of questioning and scrutinizing blackness or brownness
whenever possible to try and discredit it as being American.
And this is another situation where you have ICE doing
the thing where they dehumanize someone who's come here from
another country as dangerous criminal because they're like a convicted
felone okay, someone who made some dumb mistakes when they

(26:22):
were a kid. The record is expunged, okay, whatever, then
also saying that this guy is not who he says
he is, he's a phony. And again these are just
sort of ways to question, like is this person can't
even be American at this point? Yeah, maybe he came
when he was seven, but he's from the UK, And
I mean, like this guy's whole personas phony. That's just
like reeks smacks of like when what they were trying

(26:43):
to do to Barack Obama to also if he moved
here when he was seven, those are like the formative years,
Like I moved to Scotland when I was ten and
within two weeks I went from being like hell I'm
English to then like fucking all star okay, hell right right,
because you will like at stage seven, like wondering he's
got an American access well exactly, And I mean this

(27:04):
sort of goes on to the just sort of when
you think about the conditions of detention for people that
are caught in the ice snare, the A c. L
U points out that there are no regulations or real
standards regarding like enforcement conditions as we've known, because children
are dying in ice custody and things like that. But again,
there's this process of dehumanizing immigrants. There's no regulations for

(27:27):
how they're being detained. And then on top of it,
Hannah Jorgis in the Atlantic made a really good point
about just sort of this is an extension of the
myriad of ways that black and brown people are d
citizens essentially, whether it's through this overt process of ice
coming through and being like we're your papers, let me
see your papers, where were you born, how long you've
been here, how did you get here kind of thing,

(27:49):
or if it's the terror of racism, uh, and being
terrorized by racism to chase us out of neighborhoods or
areas to not feel welcome. This is just sort of
part and parcel of, you know, kind of what's on
brand for America in terms of being you know, black
and brown and even yeah, even if you're even if
you're a celebrity, even if you're the president. There's no height,

(28:11):
there's no height you can attain. And you were legitimately
born here, and you show your birth certificate to the
entire country, they're going to try to say that you're
from a different country here. I had something be like, oh,
you foreigner Brits coming out here taking our acting jobs.
I'm like, your last name is O'Brien. It was before

(28:33):
we started recording, and I was like, well, you're you're
an Irish person by descend, Like yeah, but you're Fari
And I'm like, because I have an accent, I'm like
I'm American, Like yeah. It's really funny, the whole idea
of what nationality even means and things like that, and
it's again, it starts off being funny on Twitter as
like banter, you know, and I'm not even sure most

(28:55):
people still realize how serious the situation is, because there's
really not. When a lawyers, you know, they put out
a statement that really goes into a lot of the
ways that Ice has been just sort of misconstruing the
entire situation to fit some narrative of how this is justified.
And it seems like every turn from where he's at
in his visa application and things like that, that there's

(29:16):
really no reason for this, especially to be held without bond.
And he's on like twenty three one, like he's locked
down twenty three hours. Yes, And it's very clearly about
him going on Kimmel and saying things about Ice like,
I mean they I'm sure journalists can't be like obviously
it's that, but that's clearly what it is because he

(29:37):
did that five days ago. He's been in touch with them,
They've known where he was for years now, like he's
in Atlanta right before the Super Bowls in Atlanta. They
could have arrested him at any point, but it's five
days after he goes on Kimmela and says that, and
then they have a statement about how like he's persona
is public, Like what the funk are you like writing
for the source or something like? That's such a weird

(30:00):
like were we actually try and figure out who's actually hood?
That's ICE's place to make that comment. It's just so
like petty and vindictive and shitty and just racist. So yeah,
go do one. I speaking of all of those adjectives,
Tucker Carlson was early in January actually on his show,

(30:25):
gave a monologue where if you were watching or you
saw a clip of it, you might have felt like
you were having a stroke because he just like suddenly started.
It was like there's a truth translator on him or
something like the ship that he was saying in a
lot of cases, So he basically said, our our leaders
or heat. This is a this is a quote. He

(30:47):
didn't basically say this. This is what he literally said.
Our leaders don't care. We are ruled by mercenaries who
feel no long term obligation to the people they rule.
Their day traders, substitute teachers. They're just passing through. They
have no skin in the game, and it shows they
can't solve our problems. They don't even bother and understand
our problems. The idea that families are being crushed by

(31:08):
market forces seems never to occur to them. They refuse
to consider it. Questioning markets feels like apostasy. Both sides
missed the obvious point. Culture and economics are inseparably intertwined. Huh.
Certain economic systems allow families to thrive. Thriving families make
market economy as possible. You think our ruling class would

(31:29):
be interested in knowing the answer, but mostly they're not.
It's interesting that he focused on like substitute teachers, but
basically he's making a critique of market capitalism as not
just a like tool that helps. But read that quote
that When you think about this quote as coming out
of Tucker Carlson's mouth, they think it makes this point.

(31:50):
But first Republican leaders will have to acknowledge that market
capitalism is not a religious I'm sorry, Tucker Carlson just
said that talism is a tool like a staple gun
or a toaster. You'd have to be a fool to
worship it. What Fox News excuse me is Alexandria Occagio
Cortez writing for Tucker Carlson. Right, It's very surprising in

(32:12):
a lot of ways, but I mean, this is what
Trump got elected on, partially is kind of economic populism,
just basically saying that there are billionaires out there who
are you know, and just corporations and you know, the
one percent who are holding working people down. He just
happened to pair that with racism, and then he also

(32:35):
happened to not follow through on that and actually follow
through with economic policies that are the opposite of that,
that are specifically designed to keep that in place. But
it does seem like people on both sides are going
to eventually come around to the fact that the truth,
I guess is that the system ships fucked. And I

(32:57):
think I was going to say that after the State
of the Union. But whoever is running in twenty just
needs to have the slogan, shit's fucked and we gotta
do something. And that applies to the left or the right,
you can figure. I think a lot of people. I mean,
I think some people are still willing to do some
mental gymnastics and being denial that their situation has anything
to do with capitalism. But I think a lot of
people do feel that way. But it's odd too, because

(33:19):
Donald Trump has now trying to, at least with the
State of the Union, almost try and slightly frame it
as capitalism verse socialism, because he said America will never
be a socialist country. But that's a slippery slope, my man,
because on one end, you can use that to, you know,
say like, oh, look at the economy, like let's keep
it going in this way. But a lot of people

(33:39):
are also of the mindset that the way things are
going are not good enough and are actually contributing to
the disproportionate UH incomes and things like that an opportunity
for You're seeing this on both sides with regards to
like mainstream like neoliberal democratic things. The people who used
to be neoliberal like market worshiping democrats are now you know,

(34:01):
all supporting medicare for all. And there's been this left
word shift to a policy that was, you know, proposed
by Bernie Sanders who in two thousands sixteen was seen
as like this crazy outside the box like leftist socialist,
which he you know, he is a socialist, but that
was seen as wild and I'm just curious now the

(34:23):
way it's manifesting itself on the right is Tucker Carlson's monologue.
But like, what is there? What is the rights version
of medicare for all and having a stronger social safety net?
I don't know. Is it just authoritarianism? Is it just
like we should take over? And I don't I'm not

(34:44):
sure what their answer is, because if you're gonna acknowledge
the you know, inequality, there's no way to really do
that through a capitalist lens at the moment or at
least the market based solutions aren't very effective what we've seen,
like you, especially like when you talk about healthcare, like
they tried to do a market based sort of way

(35:05):
to be like, Okay, what's the market how can we
sort of work within that to make something work? And
it didn't it's or it's very there's a lot of
flaws in it that still benefit the market forces. So
I don't know, I don't know. I don't know. I
don't know how the right can own it without sort
of also being like, yeah, actually we we focus on
with them too, like we do need to address this

(35:27):
stuff because I don't know what what are you gonna
tell billionaires that like, hey, can you guys just like
start little fun companies for people to work at? And
you know what, I like, I don't know. It's so
interesting as well, like the cultural difference, like my mom's Norwegians,
so they in Norway, you you know, you have the
ten commandments. The ten commandments here are like you must
not be bad to your neighbor. Or in Norway they

(35:48):
have a thing called which their tank. Their tank commendments
are you must not think you're better than anybody. You
must not stand out from the crowd. You must not
think you have anything like teach the crowd or show
the crowd. So their philosophy and you know upbringing is
so socialist, whereas in America, the it's like you can

(36:10):
do it, live your dreams, you know. So it's it's
almost like you can't be uh, you know, the amongst
the puppies, Like you have to be this whole puppy. Right. Yeah.
And we've talked before about the study that showed a
fish that was like separated from a school of fish.
And in other countries they're like, oh, that fish is fucked.
It's like being isolated it did something bad. And in

(36:33):
America they're like, there's the leader. That's the George Washington fish.
You know. Yeah, I think that's absolutely true of just
how we process things. And I'm actually really eager to
get your thoughts on this next story because a big
thing that if you're kind of paying attention to the
weeds of you know, all the people who are coming

(36:55):
out and declaring for the Democratic nomination for a big
argument that's taking place is, like we just mentioned, everybody
is now saying there for medicare for all, and in fact,
like specifically aligning themselves with Bernie Sanders policy. But there's
this question of whether it is, you know, a Medicare

(37:16):
for all where you do away with the entire private
insurance industry, which is like a multi trillion dollar industry.
Like that's basically what Bernie Sanders is calling for, and
that's what leftists are calling for, whereas neoliberals who are
saying there for Medicare for all seem a little bit
more wobbly on that. They're more like, well, you can

(37:36):
keep the private insurance industry, but then everybody would have
access to medicare. But leftists point that they're making is
that if you have a multi trillion dollar industry in
the United States, it's going to suffocate, like that public option,
it's going to keep lobbying, keep you know, hammering at

(37:57):
it until Medicare for all isn't a very good option. Yeah,
well that's with the NHS and the UK. Everyone keeps saying, oh,
the NHS is suffering, and oh it's the NHS isn't working,
but it's because they keep cutting the funding. And for
me personally, I think it's a fantastic thing and I
think they do a great job of what they have. Um.

(38:17):
And I'm so grateful for free healthcare. Um. And I
feel like any time I'm out here and I'm just
at stand up clubs, like telling the audience my health
issue because I'm like too scared to go to a
doctor right here, anyone a doctor? Yea. So around this growth,
NHS is your national healthcare service, national health service. And

(38:39):
when they're cutting the funding, is it the Conservatives who
are basically like, this is we need more of a
private ary keep saying exact We've had I mean Theresa
May and then it was David Cameron and and it's
like yeah, they keep saying, oh, we need to go private.
It's like yeah, because you keep cutting the funding, right right,
you're creating the situation. Yeah. I mean, I think that's
the thing is there's on inside. Yeah, I see the

(39:01):
argument to say, like, yo, let's do away with all
the private insurers. But then you have it's a very
tough political battle, right because when you look at the
a lot of the polling people they like the concept
of medicare for all, right, but when you actually go
into the mechanics of it, they're like, okay, well, then
how do you feel about it if we did it
and we got rid of your private insurance. But the

(39:22):
support drops down under thirty under forty, So the it's
guarantee health insurance as a right for all Americans seventy
one percent. Eliminate all health insurance premiums and reduce out
of pocket healthcare costs for most Americans sixty seven eliminate
private health insurance companies. Thirty seven percent favorite, And do
you favor or oppose having a national health plan? It's

(39:44):
fifty six and that's so that's the number fifty six,
and a majority supports, you know, a national healthcare plan,
which people are equating with with Medicare for all. But
what the interpretation of that is is a much trickier question.
And I've heard it argued, you know, both sides. I've

(40:04):
also heard people say, well, none of this is happening
in one So let's not make this the litmus test
where you just disqualify candidates because you're not going to
be able to put Bernie's vision in place in a
single year. So let's just you know, there are other
socialists values that can be put into place that are

(40:27):
more realistic. This does seem to be a place where
the rubber is hitting the road in terms of leftists,
first neoliberals. Basically, yeah, it's one of those things, right
Like Obama Care was trying to address it, but because
it took into consideration the market and the private insurance companies,
it just turned into this thing that wasn't really what

(40:49):
it was intended to. It was written by private insurance companies.
It's a CEO from a private insurance company, and it's like, right,
turn this up. Yes, And I think that's why some
people like it has to be all or none, right,
you know, And that's where it gets tricky because it
is such a huge industry. You have people who are
employed by these insurance companies. What are the mechanics of

(41:10):
trying to make that work? And it's one of those
things where I think the sentiment is there, but we
really have to really think about the creative ways that
we can actually get people to not have a reaction
to be like, oh, I'm gonna lose my private health
insurance because a lot of people who can afford their
own insurance. I think most people who are fortunate enough
to pay for or have employee provided insurance or whatever

(41:31):
employer provide insurance are fine with that, but it's right
when the second it starts being like, well we would
have to do away with that, you start losing support
and navigating that I think is going to be the
toughest thing. I just heard about that guy the UM
change the price from HIV medication to seven Yeah. Yeah.

(41:53):
The amazing thing about that is when you asked perfectly
rational people uh about that, who are like work in
the markets, They're like, yeah, but what he's doing is
just that's logical. That's what you have to do. That's
what the market dictates. And it's like them with the market.
The market doesn't work, then it doesn't take humanity into

(42:15):
a credit. It just takes into how do I pump
up these profits. So in England and France, in Canada,
and I think in most Scandinavian countries there are private
insurance companies. Uh. They are sort of niche things for
very wealthy people of means. And the point is that

(42:36):
it's not the main thing, the private insurance supplement. It's supplemental.
It's not a multi trillion dollar industry. To get the
United States private health insurance industry down to the sizes
of those would require a thing that is completely unnatural
to America and to markets. Basically is the issues. So actually, Katia,

(43:01):
so in England and this is just like genuine curiosity.
Is being a doctor a prestigious like career and is
it like a one that you people are like, oh,
he's a doctor, he does well like doctor lawyer going
into medicine or law those are the still the same,
like yeah? And is the health care like do you

(43:23):
have generally good experiences with healthcare? Like if I personally do, yeah,
I M. I know that I've heard that because I
live in London when I'm in the UK, that being
in London you you're more likely to be seen quicker
by the doctors for some reason. Then if you live
in the countryside, like in a suburban rural area, supposedly

(43:44):
there either maybe understaffed or um they're not able to
get the prescriptions that you might need. That's just what
I've heard. But I generally have had a really good experience.
But I have had situations where, especially if I've needed
something and I'm like, oh, I'm going out to America
and two weeks and they're like, well, on the NHS,
we won't be able to get that done for you,

(44:06):
so I have to go privately to get something dealt
with before and yeah, um yeah. And the question of
how the system would be set up, what the role
of private insurance companies would be, that is something that
you would expect all the Democratic candidates to have nuanced
ideas on and nuanced positions on, and they haven't. And

(44:29):
that's been a well that's the thing. Everyone just like, yeah,
y'all funk with this, right, Yeah right, how are you
gonna do it? Fun? Right? Yeah right? Because this is
people like the politics of it, you know, but it's
the when you get down to the nitty gritty of
the policy. That's what we're going to start seeing, you know.
But hair fly from a user perspective, from a consumer perspective,

(44:50):
from the people's perspective, that is, the ideal is you
shrink the private insurance industry down to something that is
there if you need it, if the publicly available system
is not filling a need, like it's not getting you
the medicine quickly enough and you have to pay extra
because it is a private insurer, but it's not catering

(45:13):
to the needs of For instance, there was a leaked
slide presentation that the intercept published recently that was one
of Nancy Pelosi's main aids, basically presenting to the head
of Blue Cross Blue Shield and being like, look, we're
going to find a way to kill this Medicare for
all things because Blue Cross Blue Shield and big companies

(45:36):
like that Kaiser and you know, giant corporations are going
to do everything in their power to make it so
they don't have to shrink at all. Yeah. Well, that's
the problem with healthcare overhaul or healthcare reform in the
country is that it's such a moneyed industry. You're trying
to take down a gigantic industry. And then also you

(45:56):
have people who inherently are a little suspicious when the
government's trying to be like, oh, we have something for
you that's gonna work. So there's a lot of hearts
and minds that have to be changed really for it
to kind of have that meaningful change. And I hope
someone is able to communicate those ideas in a way
that can you know, get more support behind it. But yeah,
it's just it's just going to be a very very interesting,

(46:18):
difficult debate because of you know, just the state of
the industry in the state of how lobbying and all
that works in this country. And like you said, Obama
had a public option in Obamacare until the very last
round of revisions, and then it got crushed by the
private insurance interests. And even if it had lasted, I mean,

(46:41):
you still would have had these markets where it probably
they found ways to regulate it, and the insurance companies
have stand a chance. They found a way to thrive
despite all that anyway, So that's you know, yeah, I
mean the main issue is America's like down to the
level of d n A like at a very cellular level,
America is organized on a principle of market economics, and

(47:03):
you're asking for them to change one of their largest
industries into something that doesn't function in like by that
logic at all, and it's gonna be tricky. But again,
the people are starting to come around. I mean, what
we talked about with Tucker Carlson is the same thing
we're talking about here. People are starting to wake up

(47:25):
to the fact that, you know, the vast majority of
Americans get fucked in favor of these extremely wealthy handful
of people who are at the type of corporations. Yeah, well,
I mean, what's good is that the will is there,
and I hope that only grows. And I think now
we just need to begin articulating this policy in a
way that can bring more people in and make it

(47:46):
a little more realistic for from a policy making standpoint
to of how to do this and do it in
a way that causes the least amount of damage possible.
All right, we're gonna take a quick break. We'll be
right back. And we're back, And guys, I want to

(48:12):
talk about Marie Condo and Cocoa, the movie Cocoa. Wow,
what a mash up? Mash up are they doing? All yeah,
they're doing a collab. Oh, she's gone through and just
kind of tidying up the places where they have the
pictures of their dead realities, Like what about this guitar
doesn't spark joy? No, So these are two kind of

(48:34):
pop cultural phenomena from the past couple of years that
seemed to be specifically about the fact that America, or
at least interesting to me from the perspective that America
doesn't make a place to honor our history or any
right exactly. But you only want to hold onto the

(48:55):
old gross ship, right, we literally pave over history and
put up like new buildings and malls, and like, our
biggest greatest city is New York City, where you may
live in a building where like the first woman voted
or like the first female vote was cast, but you
wouldn't know it because there's like literally no sign of history.

(49:18):
It's just tear down, build up, tear down, build up, change.
Like in the UK we have like these blue plack
cards that buildings like the first owner of the Royal
Ballet School lived in this house. Yeah, like preserve it. Yeah,
And I think they even have some of those in
the United States in New York City, But I've never

(49:41):
noticed the Triangle Shirt Waist Company. Is that building still around?
I'm sure like or there. I'm sure there's a recker
that says this is where it happened. But that's not
a thing that people pay attention to. People, right, people
go to Columbus Circle, to the shiny new mall there,
you know, Times Square or whatever. And I think this
is down to our entire philosophy is about reinventing ourselves, right,

(50:05):
Like we like celebrities who constantly reinvent themselves. You know,
we like movies where the mentally handicapped, poor boxer today
turns into the heavyweight champion tomorrow. Or you know, our
biographies of great men revised their stories to be about them,
you know, going from pulling themselves up by their bootstraps

(50:27):
and totally just defying their background and we will write
out you know, Malcolm Gladwell wrote about how Bill gates
entire reason for being was defined by the fact that
his parents got him access to a computer that he
could program on at a young age, but that is
written out of the story. And you know, that's why

(50:48):
Disney is fascinated by orphans. And it's also you were
talking about manifesting, like manifest destiny is the founding philosophy
of the United States, sort of racing an entire millennia
of previous culture and people that lived here and ignoring
their role in taming the land and anyways, so now

(51:10):
into that culture we have Marie Condo and Cocoa. Marie
Condo came on the scene and I immediately assumed she
was the sort of self invented Western style huckster that
the self help industry typically turns out like a Tony
Robin Stipe, you know, But it turns out she grew

(51:31):
up studying, like she was a caretaker of a Shinto temple,
and it is part of a tradition that is essentially
Japan's national It's kind of like a religion, but it's
like part of I mean Shinto Buddhism is you know
the culture too. I mean a lot of the things
in Japanese culture, like taking your shoes off and like
that come from Shinto Shinto. And it's about connecting to

(51:54):
the past and honoring the past and having a way
to connect the present moment to the past. And a
lot of her focus and her process is evaluating your
relationship to an object and like what it represents of
your past and like what it reminds you of from
your past, and you know, she's waking up the object

(52:15):
to like she I think it's a lot about like
the power of these objects to be to connect us
to the past and like spark joy or not. Um well,
I think it's also about minimalism to write very you
know in japan are It's funny like hearing a lot
of people from the States talk about all this stuff,

(52:36):
it's like very Japanese stuff to me, and I'm like,
oh right, but like this is weird well, because I
think it's so it's almost antithetical to like United States
consumer culture, which is the accumulation of property, right, how
much she can I have the most of these things,
I have this many these things, and her whole thing
is like it's like about harmonizing with your environment, you know,

(52:58):
which is a very Japanese thing, like, you know, like
whether it's nature and flower ranging. This is sort of
like are the objects around you? Are they actually contributing
to a harm like a harmonious relationship with your surrounding.
So if you have this, does it give you a
good feeling? Is it energizing? Probably not useful, And I think, yeah,
there's a those are like kind of the two forces

(53:20):
butting up when I especially when I see a lot
of the the you know, at least people's takes on it. Right.
The only time in America I've ever felt connected to
the past is like when I'm in nature or when
I'm in a foreign country where like they actually have
sort of an entire culture that is like built around
the past, basically as opposed to in the United States.

(53:43):
It's like we have suburbs and we have parking lots
that we just like pave over this and the people
who were here and do do give the land history.
We're like, okay, and y'all can go over here on
your reservations and we're just gonna just build the wild
mini mall everywhere else. We were driving out to San
Francisco the other weekend for the SF Sketch Fest, and
we stopped off it was like this Dutch piece suit. Yeah. Yeah,

(54:07):
but it's kind of sweet because it looks like a
Tudor building with a Dutch windmill, like in British, Like
Tudor buildings are old British buildings, and I see that
a lot. Like people are like, oh my god, like
it is cute, like like ale House. I'm like, it's
the Tudor building that they've made two years ago, right right.
But I think that's what's cool about Coco too, is
how it introduces you to this whole culture that is

(54:30):
about honoring your relatives and honoring the past, Whereas in
America it's like your elders, right, like or your ancestors.
Whereas in America you kind of I mean it is
really like you want to look at the bleakness of
the American sort of ideology, go to nursing homes where

(54:51):
we just like shuttle off our old people to write
and kind of be by themselves and other cultures. You're like, yo,
when you get a certain age, mom and dad are
living with me, Yeah, and like not going anywhere because
we have we keep the family together. I just kind
of I really like the whole idea of a lot
of people having to ask themselves if their items bring
them joy, because I felt like that first week when

(55:12):
this show was out. A lot of people on Twitter
have like jokes about it, but we're also wrestling with
the idea that this ship actually I really don't give
a funk about this. That's making me feel weird because
before I was extracting my identity from that and I
don't know. I think it's also a way to sort
of force yourself to understand like how much our identities
are intertwined with objects we possess, and how much is

(55:35):
actually coming from like an internal source of like this
is who I am, regardless of these external factors. As
an American, I have to put it in terms of
museums because that's the only place where we put the past.
But like I think of it as like turning your
home into a museum of your life, like kind of
kind of thing where you're like, you know, honoring these
things as totems or artifacts from your life, and like

(55:59):
if they just are of a place in the museum,
that's great, but like you have to be a curator. Yeah, yeah, well,
you know, the US is all about keeping it young
and fresh. Its fuck old ship old. I know. It's
like when I'm at parties out here, people speak like
eight octaves louder than the UK, so like, let's the party,

(56:19):
and my ears were ringing, and I was like, I'm
going to move to America when I'm an old lady
and I'm starting to go deaf because I just won't
be deaf out here. Yeah, all the Brits are like, helly,
can you just please press the button on the elevator
saying well, it's yeah, even like it's funny when I
was in Japan with like when you're on the trains
and stuff, the people who speak the louttest are usually

(56:41):
like people from other countries because it's it's all about like, yeah,
keep your phone on silence, it's my drum ship. But
those are you know, those are the differences where yeah,
America is just like, it's me, me, me, and this
is what it is. Uh, we're you know, we're learning,
we're learning out here. That's right. Let's take let's take
messages from all over the world. Cat. The first time

(57:01):
I met you was on an episode of The Correct
podcast where we talked about things that seem strange to
you about America as somebody who's not from here, and uh,
you have the loudass voices. I'm like, yeah, that's because
that's just yeah, their culture is so individualistic here and
not about the group. And again that that that also

(57:22):
just bleeds into our the way our politics are to
The politicians are in there because they have their own
individualistic goals of being like the most popular person in
their part of the state, because they're in Congress, and
sort of like, we don't think so much about the collective,
especially now when we look at things like healthcare and education,
it's not so much about that. It's like, oh, well,
who who's going to benefit that I know directly from

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this policy? Right, Well, well let's sing about that this weekend. Kat.
It's been a pleasure having you as always. Where can
people find you? I'm main you do Instagram, I have Twitter,
but I you basically see the same stuff like on Instagram. Um,

(58:06):
it's that Katia finger so k A T I A
k v I n G dot tv. Just that. And
is there a tweet you've been enjoying or Instagram post
that I've seen or one that I've done either. I
did one that went kind of viral where I high

(58:26):
five loads of people at the leaning tier of pizza
because you know how they all stand with their hands
up like trying to hold the pizza ran and high
high five everyone, like the perspective shot exactly. Yeah, so
it's a video of me high fiving all the people
doing that. I always love dog memes. I can't get
over that. Still like that, I have no idea what
I'm doing. Type dog means. There's one where it's like

(58:48):
this dog and it's eating different types of food and
it's like broccoli and it's like yeah, and then like
feeds it me and it's like yeah, it's good from
my tom and they feed it like um cordas to
and it's like this is fantastic. How it's gonna stink
like fat later? I loved it so much. How are
you with cottage cheese? Okay, okay, don't make sure who

(59:10):
wasn't resonating for other reasons? Uh, Miles, Yes, where can
people find? You can find me, you can find us,
you can find the whole Daily Zydec crew. We worked
on the Rohm Burgundy podcast. I just want to say
that on the show one time out because it was
a tremendous honor and labor of love from everybody who
works on the show. Nick and Jack, Sophie, we all, yeah,

(59:33):
this is we. We got to work on the Rohn
Burgundy podcast. So yes, out of allegiance to us, just
download that. You're gonna like it. And also if you don't, uh,
just at Will Ferrell don't leave me alone. But again, yes,
please let check out the rom Burgundy podcast. If you
want to find me on social media, you can find
me at Miles of Gray g r A y. A
couple of tweets I like is from Jane Greasy at

(59:58):
Jean Greasy. She says, all the fucking quote unquote teachable
learning moments is why we can't have nice things. It's
one year from twenty. I want my fucking hoverboard and
my Mex suit and my Minority Report contact lenses, But
no we're here in the future telling you black face
is wrong. God damn it. Yeah. Uh. And another one
is this as a sentiment you hear a lot in

(01:00:20):
l A. Especially if this is from at uh A
S l N O U X Lisa. H Uh. It
just says congratulations. How do you get that? Because that's
pretty much if, especially in this in the entertainment industry,
were like, oh my god, congrats, So how did that happen?
Like It's never just like congratulations, It's like, why are

(01:00:41):
you doing that better than me? It's just the most
l A thing. I wish more people who tweeted that,
because I'm like, Wow, that's l A is basically in
a a quote congratulations. How do you get that? Tweet?
I've been enjoying from our good pal use of Roach
tweeted when I moved to California, I thought astrology was stupid,
but slowly I learned to just be into whatever hot

(01:01:04):
girls like. You can follow me on Twitter at Jack
Underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at daily Zeitgeis.
We're at the daily Zeitgeis on Instagram. We have a
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we link off to the information that we talked about
today's episode, as well as the song lead right out

(01:01:27):
on of Man it has not broken the sixty two
degrees fahrenheits in l A and I'm I'm partially wanting
the sun to come back. So I've been listening to
a lot of music that inspires, you know, tropical visions.
So I will leave you with some you know, samba, jazz,
BASSA nova from stand gets uh and this is called

(01:01:48):
South dadget vemicle handle. Okay, now put that in your
ears and just close your eyes and try and leave
the sun shining on you, warming your body this weekend,
because that's what I'm about to do. Alright, guys, have
a great week and we will be back on Monday.
I talk to yet night. Fine, I know it