April 17, 2018 • 58 mins
In episode 128, Jack & Miles are joined by comedian Adam Lustick to discuss Kendrick Lamar's Pulitzer Prize win, Adam Pally's meltdown at the Shorty Awards, Neil Gorsuch's liberal vote for immigration deportation law, Michael Cohen's third client Sean Hannity and his misunderstanding of 'attorney-client-confidentiality,' the New Yorker article breaking down all the Trump families crimes, Kanye West tweeting again, Drake's album coming out soon, a women partially being sucked out of a Southwest Airlines window, Cardi B losing money at Coachella, a quick appropriation check in with Woah Vicky, Bhad Bhabie, Lil Tay, & more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, Welcome to season twenty seven, episode two
of Daily's I Got a Yeah for April two thousand eighteen.
My name is Jack O'Brien aka Mr me Hawk. That
is courtesy of Jack Holman. Fellow Jack, So what does
that make you? You know Jack me yep, yeah, we
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both grew up with it. H one of my favorite
memories from growing up, that old bit, Mr Jack Holman.
I feel for you, uh, and I am fine to
be joined by my co host, Mr Miles Gray. You
know they always ask me, Miles, can you please stop smoking?
(00:44):
La la? Jack? Why try? I'm a I'm a daha Okay.
Shout out to Mace Mason Betha from Harlem, one of
my favorite rappers of all time. Yeah, bett a k
comes to us from the one only Christie y'amaguchi Maine. Uh. Yeah,
amazing display name. The handle is actually at Crispy Meme
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Nut So either way, it's a pun filled adventure. H
w way, we are thrilled to be joined in our
third seat by the hilarious comedian writer actor poor former
Yester Adam Luster. Thank you for having me back, guys,
And ever since I was last year, I've just been awake,
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standing waiting for waiting, just waiting for the call for
I really appreciate you, maca just in a dark closet, dark. Yeah,
and I'm sorry I called the cops on you last week.
I thought you wish you're breaking into the build. I
wish you have Yeah, I really did. I was like, yo,
he's pacing outside the door off served. Yeah, you're healing nicely,
thank you. Yeah. But plus they arrested both of us,
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So I was like, I'm the dude who called. You're like, no,
I don't believe it. We're all good. Yeah, Adam, What
is something from your search history that is revealing about
who you are? Okay? Where you are? Yeah? Okay. So
I think something that I've searched recently is could I
pull off a onesie? So I thought kind of a
flight suit recently. I don't know if you guys, you
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guys are both very stylish. Um, I don't know if
you've sort of hopped on this trend of like the
male I mean the male romper that was like eighteen
news cycles OBUs the romp him. But I'm talking about
this is like a proper flight suit sort of really
makes me feel kind of military and like a bomber pilot.
But I feel self conscious wearing it out. My wife,
the old the boss spouses back at home for me.
(02:34):
I mean, her majesty doesn't want me. Bro. Happy marriages
are the worst. But I'm not even married. Bro. But
my wife, Maggie has been telling me, really encouraging me,
pushing me to take bold risks, fashion risks. She says
that the other side of the patriarchy is that men
feel hemmed in and they feel like they can't take
take big, bold fashion swings totally. So I want to
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be the kind of guy that can lead by example
and wear this one'sie out, but I feel self conscious.
So I've been googling could I pull this off Google,
almost referring to Google as my personal die and as
if Google has I don't already seen you and then
can compare that with your using Google correctly? Yeah. Now,
so the flight suit is like a legit military flight suit. Yeah,
it's nice. It's like a big navy blue sort of
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a big one piece with like nice sturdy buttons, and
it kind of feels like Vietnam era, Okay, but it
feels like proper military flight suit. Yeah, And You've always
been a fan of America's work in Vietnam, right, you know, yeah,
you know ak Asian orange orange out of Asian orange last. Yeah.
But anyway, so I like, I want to say, a
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three quarter sleeve interest all the way that leggings all
the way down, full situation. It's a bit of a
complicated idea. If you have to sort of urinate and
it takes a little bit, and there's an extra step involved,
a butt flap, it has no But if you guys
wanted to hop on board, then maybe the three of us, yeah,
and then just look like an interracial beast. That that's
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why I came today. My wife's best friend has a
similar thing, and I always make fun of her every
time she wears it. And I see, really think it's
super cool. So that will give you ship, all right,
whoever makes that flight suit, hollerd us and maybe we
can get a little endorsement there you go, you know,
fight suits official uniform with this exactly. Yeah, there were
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zoot suits. Now there's suits exactly. Uh and what is
something besides uh just casually wearing flights? Yes, that is underrated. Okay,
I made a trip home recently. I'm from upstate New York,
and I just want to give an obvious, very sort
of cliche shout out to mid sized airports, all of
any airports, smaller, deliberately small, humble airports. I feel like,
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as someone just lived in New York City and Los
Angeles for the majority of my adult life brag, I'm
almost Yeah, so j International exactly, Bicoastal JFK, and l
a X are horrible city. They're like the worst cities
I've ever visited. And so it was nice, Like the
Albany Airport is very, very chill. There's like two gates.
There's like a very like relaxed Hudson Valley architecture exhibit. There,
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like the art in these midsized airports, but I feel
like it's kind of elevated. Yeah, and then in New
York and don't in these big cities, they don't feel
they need to like impress you with the airport, but
the interior of the airport like you're in the city,
you're not here to see you're here. Get we got
more people coming exactly out exactly. But I feel like
small towns like Albody really put a lot of like
TLC into the airport. You're right, that's right before before
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the albany Z that gang comes at you. I remember
when Jack called Ottawa a town and capital of Canada
out for him. But you know, the airports are like
the Eugene Airport is like that where it's like that
was one of my first moments. I'm like, I like
this small airport. It's no, there's no hassle in it.
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You're there, you're in, you're out. Also, gotta shout out
the Vancouver Airport. Y v are up there. It's never
going to know, is it? Good man? They just run
a tight ship up there. Is so clean, it is
so beautiful, And they got the Japanese hot dog cart
outside and I'm just loving it. What's Japanese about the
hot dog cart? The okay dog? Yeah? Yeah cool? What
is the art installation? I thought, I'm sorry, it's not
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like okay dog. It's the Japa dog jap in Vancouver.
Ye that seems offensive to me. Well luckily luckily. Yeah.
The Japanese people are running in so I can't really
pluck my chest out of them because I came in
there speaking Japanese and they're like it's almost right down.
It's almost like there's a racist phrase that is Japa
something but they know that. I don't know it's a play,
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but that's but that's a Japanese person just thinking like,
oh Japanese dog, good good exactly that it sounds like
if a racist tree falls in the forest and we're
not trying to see it, if we don't know about it, yeah,
jury's out. But the art in the Albany Airport was like,
because Albany's in the Hudson Valley, there's all these like
beautiful sort of loggish cabiney and daki type homes and
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it was just this cool exhibit that was sort of
flatten out to the artist renderings of like these cool
ADIRONDACKI Hudson Valley Wooden would log homes, which is kind
of cool. And I know I sound like a sixty
eight year old man saying that, But that would be
adult podcast where we take little flights and rank the
little airports of America, Little Flights, Little Flights, Little Flights
with Adam and Myms. I forget where it was. It
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was at a major airport. Maybe it was l a
X where I saw like a piece of art and
I was like, you know, if that wasn't in a
major airport, I would think it was cool because like
the context and everyone's just aggressively unhappy. I hate it.
That's exactly right. And in those huge airports, everyone is miserable.
It is a stew it's a misery stew as it.
But these small airports are like, oh, I get wife,
(07:41):
flying is nice, right? Yeah? And also I think, you
know that's funny because I think my dad has an
art piece really him where my stepmom does first. That's
pretty cool. So you may have been was it like
a moving video thing like having to do with film
and no, no, no, it was just like birds. It
was like a sculpture. Yeah. I think outside as tweeting
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how I described nature. I don't know. My dad probably listened.
So let me know if I adam, what is something
that's overrated? Okay, overrated? So I'm gonna say just sort
of based on the news of the week, I'm gonna
say just being tall. I feel like tall people get
a lot of instant cred and like they assume instant authority,
and like there's like this strong implicit bias. I'm sure
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like the Nate Silvers of the world have done countlessduddies
about how tall people get everything they want. But like
this James Cammy thing, I'll tell you, dude six ft eight,
but he and The Onion put out a funny headline
yesterday that was like James coming, I'm just like a
messy bitch from New Jersey who lives for drama. Like
he kind of is, like he kind of a little
bit is that even though he's like a six foot
eight like sort of statuesque tall dude is a broken, sensitive,
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insecure rama that's true. And just because you're six eight
doesn't mean you're not messy. That's all right, especially when
he's as like Trump's tie which is long, overly, like
more long than it should have been, exactly as normal. Yeah,
as you as too little white half moons under which
(09:12):
I'm assuming are from Tanning, all right, man, because you
live in a house with like your wife and daughters
are like you fucked up Hillary chance to be president
exactly man. Yeah, And he's like I was damned if
either way. So that's right. And the other side of
that coin is like I almost empathize for tallman and
like tall women who are who are like amitable insecurities
and just like a normal human being. Because again, this
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implicit bias just like comes baked into our culture, like
tall is authoritative, It's just sort of in our blitter brains.
So I don't know, I kind of feel for them
in a way. But also like tall, people are weird.
People can be weird and sad and bad Sean Bradley,
if you want to put dunked exactly, that's a person.
There is no exactly looked like that one monstar from
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space jam exactly. And finally, what does a myth? What's
something people think is true that you know to be false. Okay,
I'm gonna say that intergenerational living I think is maybe
tabooed in this in America, like living with my living
with a bola kind of situation. I love it. My
wife and I have been living with our mother, her mother,
my mother in law here in Los Angeles for six years,
(10:15):
and I have to tell you it's the best. It's
really really great. My relationship with my mother in law
has only strengthened and deepened and become more nuanced and
rich and enriching and uh and nourishing and fulfilling. So
I just want to say that, uh yeah, intergenerational living.
And also Myles and I were talking about this off Mike.
We're also looking to get our own house obviously, um so,
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but there's something really really wonderful about living with mom
slash dad, and I would recommend it to anyone I know.
It's also like the millennial thing. We're all broken, like
we all have to choice choice style. Yeah, it's pleasure
of it. Like when I go on dates. When I
lived at my mom's house, I'm like, yeah, you know,
I just love my mom. You know, I don't want
to stay with her, so so I live here. Yeah.
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I mean it's very common in other countries a lot
of time, like Japan, like Yo, the family is they're
like there's no that's like it's like you're not leaving
the house until you're married and you have a reason
to leave the house. Still, that's like the base, that's
the expectation. And also when your parents got older, they're
coming back. That's exactly the care of them. I think
my parents in law will probably move them with us eventually,
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and I will be so happy because they're awesome and
we could use the babysitting exactly. Okay, okage, now we
find ye Oh I love for them be here. I
mean because I want them to babysitters because I love them. Yes,
I love them and their babysitting bill and their free times.
Got to put them to work. My favorite thing about
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them is their free time. All right. We are trying
to take a sample of what people are thinking and
talking about right now, the national slash Global shared consciousness,
and we wanted to start out with the announced the
Pulitzers recently, uh something called The New York Times. I
want a couple New Yorker for some of their Harvey
(12:00):
Weinstein reportifically wrong fair specifically NBC whoops. Uh yeah. But
in the music category, which I did not know there
was a Pulitzer for music, they decided to give it
to Kendrick Lamar for damn kung Fu Kenny so cool, Kenny. Yeah?
(12:22):
Is it one of those things I asked out of ignorance,
Like where there is a music one every year and
they have to give it. It's like a pe boto
When it's deserving, there is, but usually it's like for
more like academic forms of music. Let me actually read
to you the description of last year's Pulitzer winner in
the music category it is called Angel's Bone. It is
an opera by composer Do Yun and librettist Royce Vavrick
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in one act that follows the plight of two angels
discovered on Earth who are forced into spiritual and sexual
slavery at the hands of a financially troubled couple. The
work is contemporary parable about human trafficking, so that is
what they're normally giving it too. And they listened to
Damn and they were like, Holy Ship. Now they're like,
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I don't remember anything from Angel's Bone, but I do
remember my Livestroke and everybody. Everybody knows that. I mean,
it's amazing because before that, like people like Miles Davis
and Ship and everyone won these awards or sometimes they
were giving them to jazz people and things like that.
So he's a first rapper. I love the way they
describe it because it just shows you how sort of
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academic this is. They described the album as a virtuo
sick song collection unified by its vernacular authenticity and rhythmic
dynamism that offers affecting vignettes capturing the complexity of modern
African American life. A full of bangers. Yeah yeah, like yeah,
(13:47):
it's it's it's well played to him, and it's great
because you know, I think they're They're also mentioned in
this article that seventeen, the combined genres of R and
B and hip hop proved to be the most consumed
music in the US for the first time in history.
So it's only natural that of course this might be,
this might be a great work, and it's one of
the it is an amazing album. Totally agree, he's the
one of the poets, and I feel like seers of
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our age. I also feel like a little bit maybe
that's just my album bias. I love to Pimp a
Butterfly so much that I almost feel like this is
a little bit like the Densi maxer for for Training Day,
where it's like more of like we show the Butterfly
was really baz, Like let's give it to almost like
not a real a career orchieve in award because Kendrick
is on only twenty nine years old or whatever. But
finally he finally, finally, Okay, it's amazing. We'll throw him
(14:30):
a pulletzer exactly. At the same time, damn is pretty
so good and it's it is validate, like you know,
so much internet journalism and analysis has done, like on
Twitter being like you can listen to it backwards and
it still works. Yeah, like it reversed soling order. Yeah,
it like tells the story just like it does forward.
(14:53):
But you know, it's kind of validating to have the
Pultzer be like, yeah, you know, put it in those
academic the same exactly. Yeah, if I was trying to
explain to like some older academic people, it's actually this
sort of virtuosic song collection, unified bites, vernacular authenticity. Like
I do wonder how much of it is just like
(15:14):
that rep genius exists now and these people can like
look at the lyrics and holy shit, that meant five
different things exactly. He has Royalty and Royalty and side
acid science album. Yeah. How I feel a little weird
because like I think award shows are weird, and like
(15:34):
awards are, I just feel mixed feelings about feeling good
and like I also feel like Kendrick is validated, like
there is a certain amount of objective validation, like he's
a Pulletzer now, but I resent a little bit the
cultural framework and the paradigm that like awards are needed
to validate. So much. But it's true. It just is true.
It feels good to be awarded and it's going to
be awarded knowledge. But you know, even if even if
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Kenny didn't win a pulletz Er, everybody would know he
is by far, head and shoulder or beyond anybody right
now in terms of like his lyricism, no doubt about it.
It's crazy. Also Mike Pasca, who has another daily podcast,
The Gist, which isn't as good. You don't need to
check it out, but he made a really good point
that this really that I will summarize for you so
(16:17):
you don't have to listen to him. I don't know
I was listening to He's actually really good, and uh,
you can totally listen to him. But he made the
point that this is actually also Fox News is first
and only Pulitzer because there's a quote from Heraldo Rivera
on the Kendrick So that's the closest they've gotten to
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the politics is that part where Heraldo Rivera is quoted
as saying that rap music has done more for more
to damage black youth than racism. Right right, So good,
good point, really really strong point. You will go down
forever as the dumbass who made uh So. We also
(17:01):
wanted to just touch on a great piece of theater
put on by Adam Pally basically speaking of a word show. Yeah,
he shipped on the World's Worst Award show that I
didn't even know existed, something called the Shorty. While presenting
at the short at the World's Worst Work. We have
(17:24):
a couple of clips him. It's like almost like he's
having an existential like because the Shorties are basically awards
for like social media branding, even branding issue, and I
think it's just kind of funny word. He's just sort
of as he's doing it, he's realizing how empty this
whole thing is. It's like a black mirror like where
(17:45):
he's like, I'm supposed to tell Wendy's their Instagram is good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
I hate myself and computers. Yeah, this's the word honors
those brands that have the best year long presence on Instagram.
So I'll be giving an award to a brand considering
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how many brands are putting all of their resources into
into Instagram. It's wildly impressive, is it. Remember that winner
that was up here saying that she was in college
an engineer but dropped out to play video games. Don't
do that. Absolutely, she thinks it worked out for her,
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But in six months she will be trying to get
back into that school because there will be a new
video game. Yes, she doesn't know how to play. Tonight
we paid tribute to those who are not with I'm
gonna we're gonna do an a memorium for a bunch
of I don't know, like my Space or some sh it.
(19:02):
I don't know. I just couldn't finish this. And then yeah,
like we're going to finish this. It is really weird.
The go pro guy came up and he's holding a
go pro on a stick and looks like a caricature
of like a douche. Yeah, and he's like, oh, thanks
a lot for setting us up, bro. Yeah, it's a trick.
(19:24):
It's a tricky balance because like, of course it's the
worst of course, like a worshows for brands are like
so innately hollow and weird and horrible, like Wendy's like
sick a f like it's so obnoxious, of course, but
also like damn it, like Adam and I your Piers,
like we kind of came up to get the US
to like and now am I of the generation that's
like the cranky old man, like get off my lawn?
Like these what is this these kids in their Instagram?
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I think objectively, it's just this dumb like let's pat
ourselves on the back of quote unquote awards. Yeah, but
I mean it's funny to know, Like I wonder what
happened that he agreed to do this maybe months ago,
forgot he had to do it was maybe having a
bad day. It was like, you know what I'm doing,
the sort of the cost benefit analysis of like just
self immolating up here, and you know what, fuck it,
(20:07):
I don't care. I don't care if I never do
another Shorties Awards again. It Yeah, he's Adam Pally is
from Happy Endings. Where would people know him? From the
EP of The President Show? He produced The President Show
Comedy Central just really funny. Also had the best edition
of the What Show was it? It was hot? Yes,
(20:27):
this was great and like the in between post Craig
Ferguson retiring, pre James Cordon coming on the show, they
have like a string of guests late late show hosts,
and one of the better ones was Adam Pally and
Ben Schwartz as his sort of like McMahon, very very funny,
so adam, I mean, he's so hysterical and obviously this
is so funny because like, what are these fucking what?
I mean, he was the sane person in the insane
(20:49):
world right like in Memorium for a fine. But it
also doesn't feel very calculated, like I don't get the
sense that he was back there like yeah, fuck it.
Like I feel like he got up there and was like,
all right, I'm gonna just go through with this, and
like you can see him just sort of giving up. Hero.
I think he started off being like I'm at the
(21:11):
of the waiting in the d m V equivalent of yah.
And I don't think that was scripted, so I think
he just, you know, his first at bat, he's swinging
for the stands. It is a good point, Jack. It
is fun and reded to see someone give up in
time to watch it and cure it in their voices
and watch it because how many of us are brave
(21:31):
to rage quick like that? Exactly my space or some
ship anyways. Uh and then just real quick, some late
breaking news. Neil Gorsuch has broken liberal at the Supreme
Court on Tuesday ruled that part of the federal law
that makes it easier to deport immigrants convicted of crimes
(21:54):
is too vague, which is a big blow to Trump
and his sort of this was full, this was considering
signature issue, and uh the Supreme Court ruled five for that.
Trump and his lad were in the wrong. And Gorsch,
who was supposed to be there, their conservative savior, the
(22:15):
one who they held out to nominate, h was like nah, yeah, well, hey,
maybe Merrick Garland just you know, haunted him in his
dream exactly. And it's also just such a testament to
how evil the Goblin Crew is that like Neil Gorstch,
like bizarre eighteenth century wooden man believe that, like you know,
(22:38):
it's like even that's a bridge too far from me. Yeah.
It's been a theme this week, which we'll get into too.
There been a few times where people who you thought
were allies of this kind of thinking, we're even like
that's too far. That's just even people who were allies
of that kind of thinking, like last week even being
like oh, this is not a lot of inhaling through
(22:58):
clinched teeth. That's exactly right, all right, we're gonna take
a quick break, be right back, and we're back. And
we wanted to talk about the raid that happened last
week on Michael Cohen, Donald Trump's lawyer, because it's it's
(23:20):
sort of slowly dawning on us all of the ramifications
that this has. And yesterday, Uh, Cohen and his lawyer
had a day in court. Uh, And I don't know.
There there were a couple of surprises. They were basically
in there begging the judge to be like, don't let
the prosecutors look at whatever they took. Can you promise
(23:41):
us that judge look out of here what you're talking about? No,
I mean, but we maybe I'll entertain the idea of
like a special master or something I think is what
you said, which is like a third party so that
the prosecutors wouldn't see either or whatever whatever. Yeah, And
there was also toxic tames about what communications are tainted
(24:02):
or whatnot. Unfortunately it's not about the perennial area that
was called the perennium, the taint itself, which perennial perennial
flowers looked. So here's I'm not a biologist, but what
I am is someone who wildly speculates on a podcast
about what things mean in court. So, well, one of
the things was over the weekend, you know, the judges like,
(24:22):
you need to disclose who your clients are, so we
don't have an idea what's going on. So before they filed,
they he did disclose that Donald Trump and Elliott Broidy,
who was the RNC fundraiser who also had a Playboy
last week. And there's another stress one point something million dollars.
And then there's another Playboy bunny who's also saying she
was involved with Trump back in the day boys involved
(24:44):
is so eight. I can't believe Trump is the most
It feels great to know that Jamie Loftus and I
were both employed by Playboy at one point. Anyway, So yes,
he had to disclose the two and then they said, well,
we're not gonna say who the third one is. And
then because they would be embarrassing, embarrassing, and then the
judge was like, that is not a valid legal excuse
to embarrassment is not a thing exactly. So the judge says,
(25:07):
who is it, or like, why would it be embarrassing?
And now here's where the lawyer could have written down
on a piece of paper, slid it to the judge
and been like there, do you see And the judge
could have been like, Okay, let me take this under
advisement and we'll like make a decision on it. Instead
the guy was like no, but he'll be embarrassed because
it's Sean Handy out loud, and there was apparently an
(25:28):
audible gasp in the was like whoa yeah, where like
other attorneys who are being pundits were like, usually you
would write that ship down and that would get at
least give you a chance of it. Not so anyway,
it comes out of Sean Handy, and again the world
was a buzz. So now let's think about when that
(25:48):
news broke. Let's see how Fox News covered this up,
this bombshell that one of their own it might be
caught up in all of the usually tied to all
of the crazy ship that they've been like being like, no,
nothing to see here for a long time. So this
is this is what happens when this is I think
the actual moment where they're breaking it on Fox Jesus.
In today's proceedings that are underway right now. Stephen Ryan,
(26:10):
one of Cohen's attorneys, was asked by the judge to
specifically name the other name because they said it would
not fall under attorney client privilege to withhold that name,
and he stood up and named him as Sean Hannity.
So moving on, so moving on, so moving on and
forth filings over this issue since last night. I mean, yeah,
(26:34):
just steamrolls. I like how she goes it didn't even
go and it was Sean Hanny was was named as Sean,
not saying that's our Sean Hannity, just a Sean Hannity
was named like that's how a cartoon would write that. Yes,
immediately after saying moving on, it's giving you cancer, we fear, yes, yeah,
(27:01):
So now gosh, it just gives you so many ideas,
like what does this mean? Did do Sean kill someone?
Was he trying to figure out what he can legally
lie about when he spreads lies about the d n
C the d n C and wiki leaks and and
and people getting murdered over leaked emails and bullshit conspiracies
or you love child with Cardi B. We don't know,
(27:22):
I mean, we're getting involved with Michael Cohen. Could need
so many things. But again, Sean Handy was very quick
to distance himself because he knows how his reputation stinks.
So I think on Anderson Cooper, young Cooper comes through flames,
but like just I mean, just listen. So we hear
Hannity describing their relationship on his radio show, and then
(27:46):
we hear Anderson Cooper. Summary is that explanation. I've known
Michael a long long time, Hannity, and let me be
very clear to the media, Michael never represented me in
any matter. I never retained him in the in the
traditional sense of containing a lawyer. I never received an
invoice from Michael. I never paid legal fees to Michael,
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but I have occasionally had brief discussions with him about
legal questions about which I wanted his input and perspective,
and assumable that those conversations were attorney client confidential. So
he seems to me be saying I was not really
a client of attorney Michael Cohen's, but our conversations are
confidential because he is an attorney and I am his clients.
(28:36):
So good exactly, I have it always shot that that
skewed logic will starts. I mean, the Okhams racer thing
is like which playboy model did he impregnant. I mean
that's like the os like what he's saying whatever seems
to be code specialty. Yes, exactly. It's just so bizarre
(28:56):
because I mean, if it really was about just brief
ad ice, you'd imagine Shine and Hannity actually has access
to much better legal opinions than a lazy asked Michael
and someone who currently has the title actual title of
worst fucking Lawyer's right. So it's weird. And another thing
is clearly like there has to be something there, right
if the whole point was them trying to be like,
(29:18):
he's an attorney and you probably have things that affect
my client or having to do with my clients, not
just you know, I just you know, I don't know.
We just shoot the ship smokes some and he would
be like, hey, man, can I lie about this person
getting murdered? But because Ricky leaks and like or like hey,
Julian Sanae told me to say this, can you tell
this to Trump? Is he being a middleman between like,
(29:38):
you know, there's so many vagarations that we do not know,
But what's Michael Colon's lawyer standing up? And I'm just
here describing the moment Jack I'm like, there were gats
in the courtroom and it was like this dramatic reveal
of the third name. It's just like the one of
the other horrible like consequences of this Trump hoorship. It's
just like everyone does feel compelled to sort of get
their fifteen minutes or more accurately, fifteen seconds, like in
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the public spotlight. Even this lawyer, like Michael Cohen's lawyer,
was like, I could write it down and be discreet
about it, but you know what, let me take stage.
And and there are some people who have speculated that
this could be just a big dog and pony show
to be like, oh, get Hannity's name out there, but
and we'll forget that the president is. But either way, like,
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based on how he was making excuses, I doubt that
another person I forget who it was on NBC was
saying that technically, if Michael Cohen did write down a
memoranda or something based on a conversation he had, that
he could be a client technically, and Sean Hannity might
not be aware of that, but either I still this
thing just smells like a whole pile of horseship. Sean
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Hannity is I mean like I loathe him, obviously, he's
so loath him, but in like in another light, like
in my more like compassionate, if I really like exercise
all my compassion. He is like truly like Arthur Miller, tragic.
There's something so deeply tragic about Sean Hannity, Like he
has sacrificed his whole all of his credit, his personal credibility,
his moral compass in the last year and a half
or two years for Donald Trump, and the only thing
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has to show for it is also going to prison probably,
But it's like, it's sad, it's deeply, deeply tragic. But
I have no when this film comes out, it's gonna
be like him barking at his desk, someone playing Shane Handy,
and it's gonna be a hard cut to him in
prison with his celly just holding him from behind. So sad.
I don't know. I don't know. There's gonna be such
(31:27):
a good like mini series on FX, like The People
versus O. J. Simpson exactly would just start writing this
um so I think he made reference to attorney client
privilege or I don't know, he said it a weird way.
What do you call like attorney client confidentiality. Um So
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we had mentioned last week that Michael Cohen has sort
of a Sault Goodman vibe, and uh so Hannity actually
told listeners Monday afternoon, uh, I might have handed him
Cohen ten bucks. I definitely want your attorney client privilege
on this, uh something like that. So that is actually
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directly from Breaking Bad. This is a misconception started by
Breaking Bad, where Saul Goodman is like, put a dollar
in my pocket. That way, i'm your attorney or my client.
That is a scene from Breaking Back, and they like
they literally are just like, okay, so basically, I'm Walter White,
you're a Saul good Man. Let's play act this thing,
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except we're talking about real crimes. We did. Yeah, it's
funny to to to aspire to the crime. It's just
like we should do it like they do on Breaking
So the way to actually establish attorney client privilege is
to you know, publicly or you know, say to the police,
he is my attorney, I am his client. Therefore, ergo,
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it's not putting a dollar in somebody's pocket. It's just
establishing that that is our relationship, right and hand. It
is kind of torpedoed his ability to do that by
now coming out and being like, we're not really attorney
clients like he was never and just basically laying out
all the way somebody can be somebody's attorney and client
and saying that wasn't the nature of their relationship. Um,
(33:12):
but let's let's listen to how an actual legal expert
would tell Sean. Well. Right, so yesterday on Hannity, he
got his favorite legal experts on, one of them being
Alan Derschwitz, who up to this point has okayed every
single bizarre idea in theory that Sean Hannity has had
about the law, was willing to play devil's advocate for everything.
Even Alan Dershowitz, like we said, had a moment where
(33:35):
he was like, Bro, you know last week when the
FBI rated Michael Cohen's office, you were out here being like,
hey man, he's an innocent man. This is total bullshit,
blah blah blah. And you didn't say that you were
should have mentioned it, mentioned it. Yeah, So this is
Alan derst has even being like, bro, I can only
be crazy to a point. Right. Well, first of all, Sean,
I do want to say that I really think that
(33:57):
you should have disclosed your relationship with uh Cohen when
you talked about him on this show. You could have
said just that you had asked him for advice or whatever.
But I think it would have been uh much much
better had you disclosed that relationship. You were difficult to
under the nature of professor I'm going to deal with
later in the show. I understand, but it was minimal.
(34:17):
But I understand that you should have said that, and
that would have been fair to say that it was
minimal in a tough position, because hey, you had to
talk about Cohen and be you don't want the fact
that you had spoken to him to be revealed, and
you had the right, by the way, not privacy right,
but you know, it's a complex situation when you speak
with people. I think it was such a minor relationship
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in terms you should have said had to do with
real estate and nothing political. I understand that. At the
same time, if it was so minor, why I just
mentioned that. Why didn't you want that out? Yeah? Exactly,
it's so small, Like it's not like what on paper
I should have done that. You don't know. I was like,
what's the best real estate property to bury a body.
It's just a little realistic, not a big deal, just
(35:04):
been like I know, I know exactly, I know, I
like the Dershwitz not backing down at that point and
port Michael Cohn. You just imagine Michael Cohn watching this
and like Sean, like I thought we had something like
we're just friends, like you imagine him just like a
score and lover like I thought we were what was
I thought we were attorney client like we had we
bought those matching exact I mean again, this is another
(35:27):
thing where I think we talked about on the show,
like this is like a cultural myth. I think that
people have been sort of taking in from film and
TV about even like these mob films, that the lawyer
somehow holds all the secrets, is impenetrable and is above
the lawn someway, like he's like Melvoine in the Soprano
Robert exactly. Michael Cohen specifically refers to himself as Consilia exactly,
(35:52):
so that yeah, exactly like these lawyers, yeah exactly. But
this is what happens when you would like to actually,
I mean, that's to think about this. He is a
crime boss like Comy telling Stupopolis he's I kind of
treated like the dinners with Trump were like very mafio
soe and like you pledge your loyalty to the ring,
you kissed the ring, and like that one weird moment
where Trump on TV made a gesture of walking over
(36:14):
to Comey and hugging him, like all these weird mafia
tactics of exactly James, and like, you know that Trump
is so dumb and television adult, Like his ideas of
status and power probably literally are from the Godfather. I mean,
those are his points of status reference. So we're just
seeing this like sad pathetic TV adult brand again. Roy Cohne,
(36:35):
one of his first layers is the notorious mob lawyer
and Riccarthew lawyer. So like it goes back to that
great tweet that this is not a government run media.
This is a media run government, precisely right, all bullshit
media myths. And you know, even the attack on Syria
happens when some devastating footage shows up on Fox News,
(36:57):
Yeah spooky. So uh, there's actually this New Yorker article
that just kind of puts all of this in perspective
from Adam Davidson, the less important Adam. Uh where he
talks about. He puts this in the context the article,
by the way, is uh salacious. Lee called something like
the end of the Yeah, the end stages of the
(37:19):
Trump presidency mark, which sounds like a little bit like
liberal fantasy. So his point, and it's sort of an
impressionist piece of journalism in the sense that he's writing
it from his perspective as a journalist who has lived
through two other things that this experience reminds him of.
He was on the grounded Bagdad, when Bush was standing
(37:41):
in front of that giant mission accomplished banner which I
was noticing earlier today in the office. It's like the
ugliest banner. It's like and taint. It's so weird, like
it's like such a shitty pixelated flag in the background. Uh.
And but the size of it, like it has to
be the size of the Hollywood signs. So like they
(38:02):
just like did it on a word doc and then
we're like here, print this up and just stretch. Yeah. Anyways,
Adam Davidson was right exactly. It wasn't restaurant vector image.
Davidson was on the ground and Bagdad when that was happening,
and he was talking to people so he knew ahead
(38:23):
of the rest of the country and the public that
that was bullshit. This thing was way worse than anybody
thought it was. Uh. He was also reporting on the
financial crisis when that was slowly unfolding, and he, you know,
even puts it he was trying to get it through
his thick skull that this was actually going in a
(38:44):
really bad and you know, he said that he finally
realized it and like what those loans actually were, what
those financial products where, and that they were about to
explode and everybody and that the global economy was going
to be fucked for a little while. Uh. And he
said that at that time, you turned on the TV
on MSNBC or CNBC and people were like, Okay, well
(39:08):
the worst of it's behind us, exactly, and this is
like we're we're heading in the right direction. So he's
saying that's a thing where the preponderance of evidence he
had access to told him things are way worse than
people realize, and this is just the early stages, and
we're about to find out how bad things are. It's
just gonna slowly come out. And he's saying that now
(39:28):
that Cohen's offices have been rated. He knows that that
is the future of the Trump presidency, like before when
it was just Mueller looking into whether there was Russian colusion,
and he was like, it could have gone either way
because he's like, collusion doesn't really make sense for Trump
because it involves a lot of foresight like patients and
diabolical planning that he is not capable of its mentally
(39:51):
fit to execute. So he was like, you know, it
could really go either way. But the one thing he
does know, based on a lot of reporting and everybody
he works with a the New Yorker do loads of
reporting on the Trump organization, is that they are a
criminal organization that has been doing crime in New York
years for years. Uh, there's you know, he talks about
(40:13):
this soho Trump project where Ivanka and Don Jr. Are
essentially on email saying, man, I hope nobody finds out
about these crimes that we're doing, like literally email. Yes,
he basically thinks Ivanka has a very high chance of
getting arrested. Don Junr. Has a high chance of getting arrested.
(40:34):
Like there is just loads and loads of white collar
crime righting that both does and doesn't have to do
with Russian collusion. You know, it's like that Russian inclusion
has been the narrative right now, like, oh, this is
the thing that's going to sing Trump, and I think
this is what really resonable to move about. The article
was just his thing of like the way that narratives change,
and like I was in the like the Iraq narratives,
like we did at mission, accomplished, it's over. Meanwhile I'm
(40:55):
there and like it's far from over. Like that's a
weird narrative, be under it to be like taken as
the like actually here, yeah exactly, and like so I
get what he's saying about this Trump thing. It's like, okay,
this Michael Cone being rated everything. The truth will hopefully
come out. We will learn about the forty years of
gangsterization of the way he runs his real estate business,
just like crimes and sex crimes and illegitimate children everywhere,
(41:16):
and that will become the dominant narrative, and his presidency
will fit into this larger narrative of forty years of
life that he's living. The thing that bums me out
is that And sorry if this sounds arrogant, but didn't
we all all know that before? I mean, like all
the reports that referencing they're like have been out therearies
about that. I am unaware of anybody who has taken
(41:38):
a serious look at Trump's business who doesn't believe that
there is a high likelihood of rampant criminality exactly. And
then he goes on the list like five really clear
cut things and as a Bijan he did business with
a likely money launder for Iran's revolutionary Guard. That like,
there's five other things and he's like those are just
really obvious, like they are really allowed of trouble. Yeah, yeah,
(42:02):
Donaldbanko were investigated for financial crimes associated with Trump hotel
and soho. And then there's an older article where yeah,
there's just all these emails where they're basically, uh, there
was no doubt that the Trump children approved, knew of,
agreed to, and intentionally inflated the numbers of building to
make more sales. Um to me, it was almost the
(42:22):
dumb fucking reality show The Apprentice that changed the area.
It's like, I feel like from the eighties up until
The Apprentice, at the dominant narrative about Trump was that
he was America's favorite crook. That was the whole that
was his He was like a fake as business exactly,
Like he was a fake ass crooked businessman. And that
was like we put up with him because he has
hair and like he's a little funny, So we put
up with him. And then like the Apprentice came along,
(42:43):
and I think maybe people maybe in the Fire States
not to be condescending, but people maybe we're like, oh,
he's a legitimate mogul, like that man really know, Yes,
he's the King Midas. Everything he touches from the gold,
that's not a set decorator creating this, Yes, exactly. But
I thought him as a crooked person was always the narrative.
But I guess this article sort of highlights how to me,
one of my takeaways was like how easily narratives can
(43:06):
just flip and sort of yes, all this proponerative evidence
can just be sort of shuffled aside, and now it's
he's the president with collusion and now it is insanely
powerful man. And I mean, look, it has all these people,
even lawyers thinking attorney claim it doesn't. But yeah, So
basically his summary is that the narrative that will become
(43:27):
widely understood is that Donald Trump did not sit atop
of global empire. He had a small, sad global operation
mostly run by his two oldest children and Michael Khne
and very king Lear is not a company that built
value over decades. It burned through whatever goodwill and brand
value it established as quickly as possible. It basically after
he like bankrupted his fifth casino, people are like, we're
(43:50):
not giving you money, that's right, And so he had
to get all his money from foreign money launderers, and
he's been doing business with foreign money launders and like
he put it in this cricket media interview I heard,
he was like, he's not even going with like the
first moguls that would do business with correct people would
do business with. It's like the moguls in the countries
(44:13):
that like you would go to fifth like as Bijon
is not the first place, and even there you're dealing
with the tertiary scumbags. Yeah. I guess that is the
point though, like it's all about context, Like the collusion thing.
I guess this point, which I hope and pray and
believe is true, is that, like the Russian collusion thing,
will in a year, when now that we know everything
in kone has been rated, we see all the documents,
(44:34):
the Russian collusion fixing, swinging the election, putin hacking Facebook
will fit into just a much larger context of Trump
being a bankrupt asshole, a scumbag real estate I who
had to go to Russia and the Ukraine and all
these other shady B and C level mugguls for money,
and that the collusion thing will fit into that narrative. Yeah. Yeah,
And even if it's not active collusion on his part,
(44:55):
like just the idea that he is compromised, that they
have something on him, I think, above and beyond anything
that Robert Mueller could dig up peepe or not. I mean, like,
that's what's the most frightening thing. Because on Sunday you
had Nicki Haley saying we're gonna sanction Russia. Just get ready,
Steve Manuchin will be unleashing the sanctions and then cut
you yesterday threw her as under the bus. We'll be
(45:15):
thinking about how about that? Yeah, we can that happen.
Last week we did put like harsher sanctions on Russia
after the assassination a couple of weeks ago, then the
UK and attempt attempt France, and uh, he was furious,
like what the funk you guys doing like those are
the homies. So this guy, I mean, he's not even
consistent with where he's at with I mean, we all
(45:37):
know this anyway. Yeah, it's only Tuesday. Let's see what
the fun I'm telling you. By Friday, what then are
we talking about? I don't know. And I probably believe
Sean Hannity. He might have a table with Cardi B
or something. I don't know. Yes, you're really shipping Cardi
B and Sean. Very interesting. I love it. They taste
in celebrity couples. Very interesting. All right, we're gonna take
(45:58):
a quick break. We'll be right back. And we're back.
And during the break, we just had a great moment
where superproducer on A was like, I just don't why
did they run for president? They did all these crimes
(46:19):
because again, I don't think they ever wanted to be
in the White House. Trump was doing a setup movie,
if you remember, he was like, I wanted to do
Trump tvctly this and he was like, oh, shoot, I
got a whole other business I'm about to set up.
I'm gonna have these fucking fans magging out buying my ship.
Cut to people in the Kremlin being like, ain't no
fucking way Hillary Clinton is gonna be president. Do whatever
the funk you have to to make sure this other
(46:41):
dude is in there, who we have a pep tape
or whatever the and now, And even if they didn't
swing the election, I still just don't think that Trump
has control over his own faculties. He is completely driven
by his ego, He has debilitating narcissism. He can't and
Russians if you don't, even if you don't want to
(47:02):
believe that the Russia may have had zero net effect
on the election, I think what we can all agree
on is Trump probably never wanted to actually be the president.
Reporting from inside his situation room on election night as
they realize that he is becoming the president, where his
face goes to ashen and I think Milania is openly weeping.
(47:22):
His family is taking it as a fucking tragedy. And
then Bannon says specifically that like you slowly see him
convince himself that he can do the job. Over the
course of the night, it's final pardon myself, yeah, part
the part of the interruptions. My favorite show passed fourth.
All the interruptions anyway, all right, we wanted to bang
(47:43):
through a handful of quick updates. Uh, Kanye is back tweeting,
saying profound ship profound profound ish does this inevitably and
he has an album coming out? Is that what We're
meant to album come out? That we suspect he is
recording Jack's the Whole Jackson Whole, but be a country
album so far from two hours ago, he tweeted. As
(48:05):
a creative, your ideas are your strongest form of currency.
You have to protect your ability to create at all costs.
Try to avoid any contractual situation where you are held
back from your ideas. Distraction is the enemy of vision.
Sometimes you have to get rid of everything. Everything you
do in life stems from either fear or love. Fear
often causes people to be manipulative. Be transparent as possible.
Stop setting plays, stop playing chess with life. Make decisions
based on love, not fear. Been reworking the production shape
(48:28):
on these rat boots for six months. I'm super happy
with them. I'm excited about the ability to give a
boot a true easy shape, feels more future. So he
kind of had a little Also, that hiking boot looks
like a janky ass boot from like Big five you'd buy.
I'm not liking his shoes as much as I used to. Like.
The new shoes that he's releasing are kind of I'm not,
(48:50):
yeahspect but they look like the sneakers that, yeah, like
your gym teacher wore in the early nineties. Yeah, exactly.
I thought they were like Saknese or like a Via shoes. Yeah. Yeah.
If all those means he has an album coming up,
then we're here for exactly. When I look at this,
I feel like he's explaining why he never want to
(49:10):
pull up towards his first things, right, So that's what
you think, Yes, but he's like sometimes like distraction is
the enemy of vision. Try to avoid any like Escially
says were held back from your ideas because Kendrick is
being like praised for his originality and ingenuity interest honesty.
I don't know. It's just like you haven't tweeted in
a long time. If it has been, has been about
like boot pictures. So yeah, there is zero percent chance
(49:32):
that he doesn't think that he should have gotten a
pullets or not correct correct everybody in that entruge they're
having to be like. Yes. Drake also released the name
of his new album's coming in June, called Scorpions. Scorpions. Okay,
that was very good. I couldn't do it really fully
(49:55):
artist here on studio. Another quick update, Uh, Cardi b
Apparent had a wild performance at Coachella to the point
we didn't talk about that, but yeah that uh, she's
actually losing money. I mean, look, Cardy is the queen
right now. She's got one of the hot, craziest albums
out right, and I think she broke crazy streaming records,
(50:15):
really invasion of privacy. But yeah, we found out there's
some reporting people kind of crunching the numbers. Uh. It
turns out that like her set could cost as much
as four hundred sixty dollars or Coachella set, which is
like very elaborate. The show is crazy. Uh, but that's
for one weekend. She saw has another weekend up. They
say in the lower end it could cost maybe three
(50:35):
k for the stage to be erected goods, and her
fee for playing Coachella is only seventy dollars in the
red there is not equal. That's not good nearly. Yeah,
but yeah, I could just be it as a marketing
expense one. I mean, it's not she's gonna go I mean,
(50:57):
she's fucking on top of the world. You know, She's like,
I'm gonna spend three dollars, do you because the show
was amazing. Although I saw one hilarious tweet about like
the reaction of Cardi's obstetrician O B G y N
right now, and it's like a confused gift of like, wow,
you're tworking fully pregnant, but hey, don't let this stop
you because the second time, Mr, everybody is loving it exactly.
(51:18):
I also like to think that her second weekend, they
scale way back. It's just like, we are you just
gonna do sort of unplugged. The cook you know, said yeah, yeah,
maybe read that article. She's like, that's what it costs. Yeah,
because the festival Coachella is not covering a dime exactly.
They're like, we'll let you perform here if you want
to dress that up. But I think also too things
to consider a lot of people like why should we
(51:39):
getting seventy thousand? Considering where she's that, you have to
imagine she was probably booked at the end of last
summer or fall early fall last year. Her stock was
not in the same place exactly. You know. Yeah, she
would be either headlining or one of the Knights headliners.
Either way, she's winning. Uh. And then finally we wanted
to do a quick appropriation check. Yeah, is there is
(52:00):
this beef being quote unquote playing itself out online between uh,
something called a whoa Vicky and bad Baby. We call
that a baby based on the spelling b h A
d b h A b I E. But that is Daniel.
She came to our attention from her appearance on Dr Phil. Yes,
(52:23):
that cashed me outside cash how about how about that? Yeah?
Her and a young woman named Woa Vicki. Yeah, each
other also crazy problematic. She says she's black. Uh, the
jury is out and has that. Well they've they've just
going hold on, I'm just getting where they've come back. No,
you are white and this is appropriation and you are
(52:45):
a crazy racist caricature. Also, there's some nine year old
named little Ted who is talking crazy ship. These two
were talking shipped to each other, Woa Vicki and bad Baby. Uh,
and like they had like some weird beef. Apparently they
caught her outside at the Americana on Glendale, I guess,
and they started scrapping. But then there's also like a
(53:07):
nine year old girl in the entreage called Little Te.
As you were saying, who I mean her instagram is insane,
She's like you already know what it is, girl, little
t richer than all you bitches. I'm out here with
more cash and you've always got a money phone. She's
all got a money phone. She's nine years old. So
if she's working, then we need to call CPS because
(53:28):
somebody's putting this child to work exactly. But I don't
even know what to say about this. It's crazy to
even see young white kids appropriating like rapper beef culture
and this whole ship like they were acting like they
were tough. It's mind blowing to watch this video. I
don't know. I'm discussed. Where do I g rap and cash?
(53:48):
And forgive me, I'm a little behind the april on
the story, but like cash, she has a wrap deal.
She can wrap atlantic. Yes, wildly problematic, but like she
sounds yeah, but well, Vicky isn't aspiring that she's like
an up and coming back. Okay, okay, fine, and Little
te is just came out of work. Yeah, who is
(54:09):
this young girl who like is calling VICKI here's just
it's confusing. Track is the next Tu Puck. Absolutely, But
what's funny is when you watch them start fighting, you
can tell little te is just a nine year old
child who is probably not from the streets or any
kind of tough situations because she falls a way out
of frame real quick when the handstar flying. She's like, fine,
I'm nine. I'm still nine. That the thing that I
(54:31):
was saying, like you're not to producer Sophie Lichtman was like,
I was like, isn't she nine? She was like, yeah,
where her parents? Right? I was like, no, She's gonna
get her ask kicked. She's so small, her little body,
nine year old body. Yeah, gosh. Adam has been a pleasure,
has always a treat. I really appreciate you guys having
the backgrounds. Thank you so much. He's having you. Where
(54:54):
can people find you? Okay? So Twitter at Adam Lustic,
Instagram at Adam Lustic, My Budy Billy and I have
a podcast every Friday called No Joke that's at No
Joke pod over on the head gum Networks, and that's
where I'll be. Yeah, uh Miles, yeah, hey man, Hi, uh?
Where where can people find? Oh? You find me on
(55:14):
Twitter and Instagram at Miles. You can find me on
Twitter at Jack Underscore Me a hot now Jack Underscore O'Brien.
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off to the information contained in two days episode. That's
gonna do it for today, Miles, what are we gonna
write out? Okay, so you know we're still in that
ViBe's go for twenty week now. This is actually a
track from washed Out. Now. You might know washed Out
from doing the soundtrack to port Landia. That's like what
his hit is, right, feel it all around now? He
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before that, when he was just making beats like in
the Woods of Georgia, he had a mixtape called High Times,
which is why I'm putting it in the category of
high music. Uh, and you guys, this was a really
dope he tape he made. It's kind of not like
his other stuff. But this is a track called luck Off.
Washed Out a little mixtape called High Times. Enjoy it
at least a little two minute fiber but you know, guys,
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relax and you know again, it's only Tuesday. Who knows
what we will be talking about and even in twelve hours,
don't music will exist in two days? Yeah yeah, yeah,
all right, enjoy that. That's gonna do it for today.
We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast.
Talk to you guys, then you will you
Hello the Internet, Welcome to season twenty seven, episode two
of Daily's I Got a Yeah for April two thousand eighteen.
My name is Jack O'Brien aka Mr me Hawk. That
is courtesy of Jack Holman. Fellow Jack, So what does
that make you? You know Jack me yep, yeah, we
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both grew up with it. H one of my favorite
memories from growing up, that old bit, Mr Jack Holman.
I feel for you, uh, and I am fine to
be joined by my co host, Mr Miles Gray. You
know they always ask me, Miles, can you please stop smoking?
(00:44):
La la? Jack? Why try? I'm a I'm a daha Okay.
Shout out to Mace Mason Betha from Harlem, one of
my favorite rappers of all time. Yeah, bett a k
comes to us from the one only Christie y'amaguchi Maine. Uh. Yeah,
amazing display name. The handle is actually at Crispy Meme
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Nut So either way, it's a pun filled adventure. H
w way, we are thrilled to be joined in our
third seat by the hilarious comedian writer actor poor former
Yester Adam Luster. Thank you for having me back, guys,
And ever since I was last year, I've just been awake,
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standing waiting for waiting, just waiting for the call for
I really appreciate you, maca just in a dark closet, dark. Yeah,
and I'm sorry I called the cops on you last week.
I thought you wish you're breaking into the build. I
wish you have Yeah, I really did. I was like, yo,
he's pacing outside the door off served. Yeah, you're healing nicely,
thank you. Yeah. But plus they arrested both of us,
(01:48):
So I was like, I'm the dude who called. You're like, no,
I don't believe it. We're all good. Yeah, Adam, What
is something from your search history that is revealing about
who you are? Okay? Where you are? Yeah? Okay. So
I think something that I've searched recently is could I
pull off a onesie? So I thought kind of a
flight suit recently. I don't know if you guys, you
(02:08):
guys are both very stylish. Um, I don't know if
you've sort of hopped on this trend of like the
male I mean the male romper that was like eighteen
news cycles OBUs the romp him. But I'm talking about
this is like a proper flight suit sort of really
makes me feel kind of military and like a bomber pilot.
But I feel self conscious wearing it out. My wife,
the old the boss spouses back at home for me.
(02:34):
I mean, her majesty doesn't want me. Bro. Happy marriages
are the worst. But I'm not even married. Bro. But
my wife, Maggie has been telling me, really encouraging me,
pushing me to take bold risks, fashion risks. She says
that the other side of the patriarchy is that men
feel hemmed in and they feel like they can't take
take big, bold fashion swings totally. So I want to
(02:56):
be the kind of guy that can lead by example
and wear this one'sie out, but I feel self conscious.
So I've been googling could I pull this off Google,
almost referring to Google as my personal die and as
if Google has I don't already seen you and then
can compare that with your using Google correctly? Yeah. Now,
so the flight suit is like a legit military flight suit. Yeah,
it's nice. It's like a big navy blue sort of
(03:17):
a big one piece with like nice sturdy buttons, and
it kind of feels like Vietnam era, Okay, but it
feels like proper military flight suit. Yeah, And You've always
been a fan of America's work in Vietnam, right, you know, yeah,
you know ak Asian orange orange out of Asian orange last. Yeah.
But anyway, so I like, I want to say, a
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three quarter sleeve interest all the way that leggings all
the way down, full situation. It's a bit of a
complicated idea. If you have to sort of urinate and
it takes a little bit, and there's an extra step involved,
a butt flap, it has no But if you guys
wanted to hop on board, then maybe the three of us, yeah,
and then just look like an interracial beast. That that's
(04:03):
why I came today. My wife's best friend has a
similar thing, and I always make fun of her every
time she wears it. And I see, really think it's
super cool. So that will give you ship, all right,
whoever makes that flight suit, hollerd us and maybe we
can get a little endorsement there you go, you know,
fight suits official uniform with this exactly. Yeah, there were
(04:25):
zoot suits. Now there's suits exactly. Uh and what is
something besides uh just casually wearing flights? Yes, that is underrated. Okay,
I made a trip home recently. I'm from upstate New York,
and I just want to give an obvious, very sort
of cliche shout out to mid sized airports, all of
any airports, smaller, deliberately small, humble airports. I feel like,
(04:47):
as someone just lived in New York City and Los
Angeles for the majority of my adult life brag, I'm
almost Yeah, so j International exactly, Bicoastal JFK, and l
a X are horrible city. They're like the worst cities
I've ever visited. And so it was nice, Like the
Albany Airport is very, very chill. There's like two gates.
There's like a very like relaxed Hudson Valley architecture exhibit. There,
(05:09):
like the art in these midsized airports, but I feel
like it's kind of elevated. Yeah, and then in New
York and don't in these big cities, they don't feel
they need to like impress you with the airport, but
the interior of the airport like you're in the city,
you're not here to see you're here. Get we got
more people coming exactly out exactly. But I feel like
small towns like Albody really put a lot of like
TLC into the airport. You're right, that's right before before
(05:32):
the albany Z that gang comes at you. I remember
when Jack called Ottawa a town and capital of Canada
out for him. But you know, the airports are like
the Eugene Airport is like that where it's like that
was one of my first moments. I'm like, I like
this small airport. It's no, there's no hassle in it.
(05:54):
You're there, you're in, you're out. Also, gotta shout out
the Vancouver Airport. Y v are up there. It's never
going to know, is it? Good man? They just run
a tight ship up there. Is so clean, it is
so beautiful, And they got the Japanese hot dog cart
outside and I'm just loving it. What's Japanese about the
hot dog cart? The okay dog? Yeah? Yeah cool? What
is the art installation? I thought, I'm sorry, it's not
(06:15):
like okay dog. It's the Japa dog jap in Vancouver.
Ye that seems offensive to me. Well luckily luckily. Yeah.
The Japanese people are running in so I can't really
pluck my chest out of them because I came in
there speaking Japanese and they're like it's almost right down.
It's almost like there's a racist phrase that is Japa
something but they know that. I don't know it's a play,
(06:37):
but that's but that's a Japanese person just thinking like,
oh Japanese dog, good good exactly that it sounds like
if a racist tree falls in the forest and we're
not trying to see it, if we don't know about it, yeah,
jury's out. But the art in the Albany Airport was like,
because Albany's in the Hudson Valley, there's all these like
beautiful sort of loggish cabiney and daki type homes and
(06:58):
it was just this cool exhibit that was sort of
flatten out to the artist renderings of like these cool
ADIRONDACKI Hudson Valley Wooden would log homes, which is kind
of cool. And I know I sound like a sixty
eight year old man saying that, But that would be
adult podcast where we take little flights and rank the
little airports of America, Little Flights, Little Flights, Little Flights
with Adam and Myms. I forget where it was. It
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was at a major airport. Maybe it was l a
X where I saw like a piece of art and
I was like, you know, if that wasn't in a
major airport, I would think it was cool because like
the context and everyone's just aggressively unhappy. I hate it.
That's exactly right. And in those huge airports, everyone is miserable.
It is a stew it's a misery stew as it.
But these small airports are like, oh, I get wife,
(07:41):
flying is nice, right? Yeah? And also I think, you
know that's funny because I think my dad has an
art piece really him where my stepmom does first. That's
pretty cool. So you may have been was it like
a moving video thing like having to do with film
and no, no, no, it was just like birds. It
was like a sculpture. Yeah. I think outside as tweeting
(08:03):
how I described nature. I don't know. My dad probably listened.
So let me know if I adam, what is something
that's overrated? Okay, overrated? So I'm gonna say just sort
of based on the news of the week, I'm gonna
say just being tall. I feel like tall people get
a lot of instant cred and like they assume instant authority,
and like there's like this strong implicit bias. I'm sure
(08:24):
like the Nate Silvers of the world have done countlessduddies
about how tall people get everything they want. But like
this James Cammy thing, I'll tell you, dude six ft eight,
but he and The Onion put out a funny headline
yesterday that was like James coming, I'm just like a
messy bitch from New Jersey who lives for drama. Like
he kind of is, like he kind of a little
bit is that even though he's like a six foot
eight like sort of statuesque tall dude is a broken, sensitive,
(08:49):
insecure rama that's true. And just because you're six eight
doesn't mean you're not messy. That's all right, especially when
he's as like Trump's tie which is long, overly, like
more long than it should have been, exactly as normal. Yeah,
as you as too little white half moons under which
(09:12):
I'm assuming are from Tanning, all right, man, because you
live in a house with like your wife and daughters
are like you fucked up Hillary chance to be president
exactly man. Yeah, And he's like I was damned if
either way. So that's right. And the other side of
that coin is like I almost empathize for tallman and
like tall women who are who are like amitable insecurities
and just like a normal human being. Because again, this
(09:33):
implicit bias just like comes baked into our culture, like
tall is authoritative, It's just sort of in our blitter brains.
So I don't know, I kind of feel for them
in a way. But also like tall, people are weird.
People can be weird and sad and bad Sean Bradley,
if you want to put dunked exactly, that's a person.
There is no exactly looked like that one monstar from
(09:55):
space jam exactly. And finally, what does a myth? What's
something people think is true that you know to be false. Okay,
I'm gonna say that intergenerational living I think is maybe
tabooed in this in America, like living with my living
with a bola kind of situation. I love it. My
wife and I have been living with our mother, her mother,
my mother in law here in Los Angeles for six years,
(10:15):
and I have to tell you it's the best. It's
really really great. My relationship with my mother in law
has only strengthened and deepened and become more nuanced and
rich and enriching and uh and nourishing and fulfilling. So
I just want to say that, uh yeah, intergenerational living.
And also Myles and I were talking about this off Mike.
We're also looking to get our own house obviously, um so,
(10:36):
but there's something really really wonderful about living with mom
slash dad, and I would recommend it to anyone I know.
It's also like the millennial thing. We're all broken, like
we all have to choice choice style. Yeah, it's pleasure
of it. Like when I go on dates. When I
lived at my mom's house, I'm like, yeah, you know,
I just love my mom. You know, I don't want
to stay with her, so so I live here. Yeah.
(10:57):
I mean it's very common in other countries a lot
of time, like Japan, like Yo, the family is they're
like there's no that's like it's like you're not leaving
the house until you're married and you have a reason
to leave the house. Still, that's like the base, that's
the expectation. And also when your parents got older, they're
coming back. That's exactly the care of them. I think
my parents in law will probably move them with us eventually,
(11:18):
and I will be so happy because they're awesome and
we could use the babysitting exactly. Okay, okage, now we
find ye Oh I love for them be here. I
mean because I want them to babysitters because I love them. Yes,
I love them and their babysitting bill and their free times.
Got to put them to work. My favorite thing about
(11:38):
them is their free time. All right. We are trying
to take a sample of what people are thinking and
talking about right now, the national slash Global shared consciousness,
and we wanted to start out with the announced the
Pulitzers recently, uh something called The New York Times. I
want a couple New Yorker for some of their Harvey
(12:00):
Weinstein reportifically wrong fair specifically NBC whoops. Uh yeah. But
in the music category, which I did not know there
was a Pulitzer for music, they decided to give it
to Kendrick Lamar for damn kung Fu Kenny so cool, Kenny. Yeah?
(12:22):
Is it one of those things I asked out of ignorance,
Like where there is a music one every year and
they have to give it. It's like a pe boto
When it's deserving, there is, but usually it's like for
more like academic forms of music. Let me actually read
to you the description of last year's Pulitzer winner in
the music category it is called Angel's Bone. It is
an opera by composer Do Yun and librettist Royce Vavrick
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in one act that follows the plight of two angels
discovered on Earth who are forced into spiritual and sexual
slavery at the hands of a financially troubled couple. The
work is contemporary parable about human trafficking, so that is
what they're normally giving it too. And they listened to
Damn and they were like, Holy Ship. Now they're like,
(13:06):
I don't remember anything from Angel's Bone, but I do
remember my Livestroke and everybody. Everybody knows that. I mean,
it's amazing because before that, like people like Miles Davis
and Ship and everyone won these awards or sometimes they
were giving them to jazz people and things like that.
So he's a first rapper. I love the way they
describe it because it just shows you how sort of
(13:27):
academic this is. They described the album as a virtuo
sick song collection unified by its vernacular authenticity and rhythmic
dynamism that offers affecting vignettes capturing the complexity of modern
African American life. A full of bangers. Yeah yeah, like yeah,
(13:47):
it's it's it's well played to him, and it's great
because you know, I think they're They're also mentioned in
this article that seventeen, the combined genres of R and
B and hip hop proved to be the most consumed
music in the US for the first time in history.
So it's only natural that of course this might be,
this might be a great work, and it's one of
the it is an amazing album. Totally agree, he's the
one of the poets, and I feel like seers of
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our age. I also feel like a little bit maybe
that's just my album bias. I love to Pimp a
Butterfly so much that I almost feel like this is
a little bit like the Densi maxer for for Training Day,
where it's like more of like we show the Butterfly
was really baz, Like let's give it to almost like
not a real a career orchieve in award because Kendrick
is on only twenty nine years old or whatever. But
finally he finally, finally, Okay, it's amazing. We'll throw him
(14:30):
a pulletzer exactly. At the same time, damn is pretty
so good and it's it is validate, like you know,
so much internet journalism and analysis has done, like on
Twitter being like you can listen to it backwards and
it still works. Yeah, like it reversed soling order. Yeah,
it like tells the story just like it does forward.
(14:53):
But you know, it's kind of validating to have the
Pultzer be like, yeah, you know, put it in those
academic the same exactly. Yeah, if I was trying to
explain to like some older academic people, it's actually this
sort of virtuosic song collection, unified bites, vernacular authenticity. Like
I do wonder how much of it is just like
(15:14):
that rep genius exists now and these people can like
look at the lyrics and holy shit, that meant five
different things exactly. He has Royalty and Royalty and side
acid science album. Yeah. How I feel a little weird
because like I think award shows are weird, and like
(15:34):
awards are, I just feel mixed feelings about feeling good
and like I also feel like Kendrick is validated, like
there is a certain amount of objective validation, like he's
a Pulletzer now, but I resent a little bit the
cultural framework and the paradigm that like awards are needed
to validate. So much. But it's true. It just is true.
It feels good to be awarded and it's going to
be awarded knowledge. But you know, even if even if
(15:55):
Kenny didn't win a pulletz Er, everybody would know he
is by far, head and shoulder or beyond anybody right
now in terms of like his lyricism, no doubt about it.
It's crazy. Also Mike Pasca, who has another daily podcast,
The Gist, which isn't as good. You don't need to
check it out, but he made a really good point
that this really that I will summarize for you so
(16:17):
you don't have to listen to him. I don't know
I was listening to He's actually really good, and uh,
you can totally listen to him. But he made the
point that this is actually also Fox News is first
and only Pulitzer because there's a quote from Heraldo Rivera
on the Kendrick So that's the closest they've gotten to
(16:39):
the politics is that part where Heraldo Rivera is quoted
as saying that rap music has done more for more
to damage black youth than racism. Right right, So good,
good point, really really strong point. You will go down
forever as the dumbass who made uh So. We also
(17:01):
wanted to just touch on a great piece of theater
put on by Adam Pally basically speaking of a word show. Yeah,
he shipped on the World's Worst Award show that I
didn't even know existed, something called the Shorty. While presenting
at the short at the World's Worst Work. We have
(17:24):
a couple of clips him. It's like almost like he's
having an existential like because the Shorties are basically awards
for like social media branding, even branding issue, and I
think it's just kind of funny word. He's just sort
of as he's doing it, he's realizing how empty this
whole thing is. It's like a black mirror like where
(17:45):
he's like, I'm supposed to tell Wendy's their Instagram is good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
I hate myself and computers. Yeah, this's the word honors
those brands that have the best year long presence on Instagram.
So I'll be giving an award to a brand considering
(18:07):
how many brands are putting all of their resources into
into Instagram. It's wildly impressive, is it. Remember that winner
that was up here saying that she was in college
an engineer but dropped out to play video games. Don't
do that. Absolutely, she thinks it worked out for her,
(18:38):
But in six months she will be trying to get
back into that school because there will be a new
video game. Yes, she doesn't know how to play. Tonight
we paid tribute to those who are not with I'm
gonna we're gonna do an a memorium for a bunch
of I don't know, like my Space or some sh it.
(19:02):
I don't know. I just couldn't finish this. And then yeah,
like we're going to finish this. It is really weird.
The go pro guy came up and he's holding a
go pro on a stick and looks like a caricature
of like a douche. Yeah, and he's like, oh, thanks
a lot for setting us up, bro. Yeah, it's a trick.
(19:24):
It's a tricky balance because like, of course it's the
worst of course, like a worshows for brands are like
so innately hollow and weird and horrible, like Wendy's like
sick a f like it's so obnoxious, of course, but
also like damn it, like Adam and I your Piers,
like we kind of came up to get the US
to like and now am I of the generation that's
like the cranky old man, like get off my lawn?
Like these what is this these kids in their Instagram?
(19:45):
I think objectively, it's just this dumb like let's pat
ourselves on the back of quote unquote awards. Yeah, but
I mean it's funny to know, Like I wonder what
happened that he agreed to do this maybe months ago,
forgot he had to do it was maybe having a
bad day. It was like, you know what I'm doing,
the sort of the cost benefit analysis of like just
self immolating up here, and you know what, fuck it,
(20:07):
I don't care. I don't care if I never do
another Shorties Awards again. It Yeah, he's Adam Pally is
from Happy Endings. Where would people know him? From the
EP of The President Show? He produced The President Show
Comedy Central just really funny. Also had the best edition
of the What Show was it? It was hot? Yes,
(20:27):
this was great and like the in between post Craig
Ferguson retiring, pre James Cordon coming on the show, they
have like a string of guests late late show hosts,
and one of the better ones was Adam Pally and
Ben Schwartz as his sort of like McMahon, very very funny,
so adam, I mean, he's so hysterical and obviously this
is so funny because like, what are these fucking what?
I mean, he was the sane person in the insane
(20:49):
world right like in Memorium for a fine. But it
also doesn't feel very calculated, like I don't get the
sense that he was back there like yeah, fuck it.
Like I feel like he got up there and was like,
all right, I'm gonna just go through with this, and
like you can see him just sort of giving up. Hero.
I think he started off being like I'm at the
(21:11):
of the waiting in the d m V equivalent of yah.
And I don't think that was scripted, so I think
he just, you know, his first at bat, he's swinging
for the stands. It is a good point, Jack. It
is fun and reded to see someone give up in
time to watch it and cure it in their voices
and watch it because how many of us are brave
(21:31):
to rage quick like that? Exactly my space or some
ship anyways. Uh and then just real quick, some late
breaking news. Neil Gorsuch has broken liberal at the Supreme
Court on Tuesday ruled that part of the federal law
that makes it easier to deport immigrants convicted of crimes
(21:54):
is too vague, which is a big blow to Trump
and his sort of this was full, this was considering
signature issue, and uh the Supreme Court ruled five for that.
Trump and his lad were in the wrong. And Gorsch,
who was supposed to be there, their conservative savior, the
(22:15):
one who they held out to nominate, h was like nah, yeah, well, hey,
maybe Merrick Garland just you know, haunted him in his
dream exactly. And it's also just such a testament to
how evil the Goblin Crew is that like Neil Gorstch,
like bizarre eighteenth century wooden man believe that, like you know,
(22:38):
it's like even that's a bridge too far from me. Yeah.
It's been a theme this week, which we'll get into too.
There been a few times where people who you thought
were allies of this kind of thinking, we're even like
that's too far. That's just even people who were allies
of that kind of thinking, like last week even being
like oh, this is not a lot of inhaling through
(22:58):
clinched teeth. That's exactly right, all right, we're gonna take
a quick break, be right back, and we're back. And
we wanted to talk about the raid that happened last
week on Michael Cohen, Donald Trump's lawyer, because it's it's
(23:20):
sort of slowly dawning on us all of the ramifications
that this has. And yesterday, Uh, Cohen and his lawyer
had a day in court. Uh, And I don't know.
There there were a couple of surprises. They were basically
in there begging the judge to be like, don't let
the prosecutors look at whatever they took. Can you promise
(23:41):
us that judge look out of here what you're talking about? No,
I mean, but we maybe I'll entertain the idea of
like a special master or something I think is what
you said, which is like a third party so that
the prosecutors wouldn't see either or whatever whatever. Yeah, And
there was also toxic tames about what communications are tainted
(24:02):
or whatnot. Unfortunately it's not about the perennial area that
was called the perennium, the taint itself, which perennial perennial
flowers looked. So here's I'm not a biologist, but what
I am is someone who wildly speculates on a podcast
about what things mean in court. So, well, one of
the things was over the weekend, you know, the judges like,
(24:22):
you need to disclose who your clients are, so we
don't have an idea what's going on. So before they filed,
they he did disclose that Donald Trump and Elliott Broidy,
who was the RNC fundraiser who also had a Playboy
last week. And there's another stress one point something million dollars.
And then there's another Playboy bunny who's also saying she
was involved with Trump back in the day boys involved
(24:44):
is so eight. I can't believe Trump is the most
It feels great to know that Jamie Loftus and I
were both employed by Playboy at one point. Anyway, So yes,
he had to disclose the two and then they said, well,
we're not gonna say who the third one is. And
then because they would be embarrassing, embarrassing, and then the
judge was like, that is not a valid legal excuse
to embarrassment is not a thing exactly. So the judge says,
(25:07):
who is it, or like, why would it be embarrassing?
And now here's where the lawyer could have written down
on a piece of paper, slid it to the judge
and been like there, do you see And the judge
could have been like, Okay, let me take this under
advisement and we'll like make a decision on it. Instead
the guy was like no, but he'll be embarrassed because
it's Sean Handy out loud, and there was apparently an
(25:28):
audible gasp in the was like whoa yeah, where like
other attorneys who are being pundits were like, usually you
would write that ship down and that would get at
least give you a chance of it. Not so anyway,
it comes out of Sean Handy, and again the world
was a buzz. So now let's think about when that
(25:48):
news broke. Let's see how Fox News covered this up,
this bombshell that one of their own it might be
caught up in all of the usually tied to all
of the crazy ship that they've been like being like, no,
nothing to see here for a long time. So this
is this is what happens when this is I think
the actual moment where they're breaking it on Fox Jesus.
In today's proceedings that are underway right now. Stephen Ryan,
(26:10):
one of Cohen's attorneys, was asked by the judge to
specifically name the other name because they said it would
not fall under attorney client privilege to withhold that name,
and he stood up and named him as Sean Hannity.
So moving on, so moving on, so moving on and
forth filings over this issue since last night. I mean, yeah,
(26:34):
just steamrolls. I like how she goes it didn't even
go and it was Sean Hanny was was named as Sean,
not saying that's our Sean Hannity, just a Sean Hannity
was named like that's how a cartoon would write that. Yes,
immediately after saying moving on, it's giving you cancer, we fear, yes, yeah,
(27:01):
So now gosh, it just gives you so many ideas,
like what does this mean? Did do Sean kill someone?
Was he trying to figure out what he can legally
lie about when he spreads lies about the d n
C the d n C and wiki leaks and and
and people getting murdered over leaked emails and bullshit conspiracies
or you love child with Cardi B. We don't know,
(27:22):
I mean, we're getting involved with Michael Cohen. Could need
so many things. But again, Sean Handy was very quick
to distance himself because he knows how his reputation stinks.
So I think on Anderson Cooper, young Cooper comes through flames,
but like just I mean, just listen. So we hear
Hannity describing their relationship on his radio show, and then
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we hear Anderson Cooper. Summary is that explanation. I've known
Michael a long long time, Hannity, and let me be
very clear to the media, Michael never represented me in
any matter. I never retained him in the in the
traditional sense of containing a lawyer. I never received an
invoice from Michael. I never paid legal fees to Michael,
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but I have occasionally had brief discussions with him about
legal questions about which I wanted his input and perspective,
and assumable that those conversations were attorney client confidential. So
he seems to me be saying I was not really
a client of attorney Michael Cohen's, but our conversations are
confidential because he is an attorney and I am his clients.
(28:36):
So good exactly, I have it always shot that that
skewed logic will starts. I mean, the Okhams racer thing
is like which playboy model did he impregnant. I mean
that's like the os like what he's saying whatever seems
to be code specialty. Yes, exactly. It's just so bizarre
(28:56):
because I mean, if it really was about just brief
ad ice, you'd imagine Shine and Hannity actually has access
to much better legal opinions than a lazy asked Michael
and someone who currently has the title actual title of
worst fucking Lawyer's right. So it's weird. And another thing
is clearly like there has to be something there, right
if the whole point was them trying to be like,
(29:18):
he's an attorney and you probably have things that affect
my client or having to do with my clients, not
just you know, I just you know, I don't know.
We just shoot the ship smokes some and he would
be like, hey, man, can I lie about this person
getting murdered? But because Ricky leaks and like or like hey,
Julian Sanae told me to say this, can you tell
this to Trump? Is he being a middleman between like,
(29:38):
you know, there's so many vagarations that we do not know,
But what's Michael Colon's lawyer standing up? And I'm just
here describing the moment Jack I'm like, there were gats
in the courtroom and it was like this dramatic reveal
of the third name. It's just like the one of
the other horrible like consequences of this Trump hoorship. It's
just like everyone does feel compelled to sort of get
their fifteen minutes or more accurately, fifteen seconds, like in
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the public spotlight. Even this lawyer, like Michael Cohen's lawyer,
was like, I could write it down and be discreet
about it, but you know what, let me take stage.
And and there are some people who have speculated that
this could be just a big dog and pony show
to be like, oh, get Hannity's name out there, but
and we'll forget that the president is. But either way, like,
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based on how he was making excuses, I doubt that
another person I forget who it was on NBC was
saying that technically, if Michael Cohen did write down a
memoranda or something based on a conversation he had, that
he could be a client technically, and Sean Hannity might
not be aware of that, but either I still this
thing just smells like a whole pile of horseship. Sean
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Hannity is I mean like I loathe him, obviously, he's
so loath him, but in like in another light, like
in my more like compassionate, if I really like exercise
all my compassion. He is like truly like Arthur Miller, tragic.
There's something so deeply tragic about Sean Hannity, Like he
has sacrificed his whole all of his credit, his personal credibility,
his moral compass in the last year and a half
or two years for Donald Trump, and the only thing
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has to show for it is also going to prison probably,
But it's like, it's sad, it's deeply, deeply tragic. But
I have no when this film comes out, it's gonna
be like him barking at his desk, someone playing Shane Handy,
and it's gonna be a hard cut to him in
prison with his celly just holding him from behind. So sad.
I don't know. I don't know. There's gonna be such
(31:27):
a good like mini series on FX, like The People
versus O. J. Simpson exactly would just start writing this
um so I think he made reference to attorney client
privilege or I don't know, he said it a weird way.
What do you call like attorney client confidentiality. Um So
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we had mentioned last week that Michael Cohen has sort
of a Sault Goodman vibe, and uh so Hannity actually
told listeners Monday afternoon, uh, I might have handed him
Cohen ten bucks. I definitely want your attorney client privilege
on this, uh something like that. So that is actually
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directly from Breaking Bad. This is a misconception started by
Breaking Bad, where Saul Goodman is like, put a dollar
in my pocket. That way, i'm your attorney or my client.
That is a scene from Breaking Back, and they like
they literally are just like, okay, so basically, I'm Walter White,
you're a Saul good Man. Let's play act this thing,
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except we're talking about real crimes. We did. Yeah, it's
funny to to to aspire to the crime. It's just
like we should do it like they do on Breaking
So the way to actually establish attorney client privilege is
to you know, publicly or you know, say to the police,
he is my attorney, I am his client. Therefore, ergo,
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it's not putting a dollar in somebody's pocket. It's just
establishing that that is our relationship, right and hand. It
is kind of torpedoed his ability to do that by
now coming out and being like, we're not really attorney
clients like he was never and just basically laying out
all the way somebody can be somebody's attorney and client
and saying that wasn't the nature of their relationship. Um,
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but let's let's listen to how an actual legal expert
would tell Sean. Well. Right, so yesterday on Hannity, he
got his favorite legal experts on, one of them being
Alan Derschwitz, who up to this point has okayed every
single bizarre idea in theory that Sean Hannity has had
about the law, was willing to play devil's advocate for everything.
Even Alan Dershowitz, like we said, had a moment where
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he was like, Bro, you know last week when the
FBI rated Michael Cohen's office, you were out here being like,
hey man, he's an innocent man. This is total bullshit,
blah blah blah. And you didn't say that you were
should have mentioned it, mentioned it. Yeah, So this is
Alan derst has even being like, bro, I can only
be crazy to a point. Right. Well, first of all, Sean,
I do want to say that I really think that
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you should have disclosed your relationship with uh Cohen when
you talked about him on this show. You could have
said just that you had asked him for advice or whatever.
But I think it would have been uh much much
better had you disclosed that relationship. You were difficult to
under the nature of professor I'm going to deal with
later in the show. I understand, but it was minimal.
(34:17):
But I understand that you should have said that, and
that would have been fair to say that it was
minimal in a tough position, because hey, you had to
talk about Cohen and be you don't want the fact
that you had spoken to him to be revealed, and
you had the right, by the way, not privacy right,
but you know, it's a complex situation when you speak
with people. I think it was such a minor relationship
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in terms you should have said had to do with
real estate and nothing political. I understand that. At the
same time, if it was so minor, why I just
mentioned that. Why didn't you want that out? Yeah? Exactly,
it's so small, Like it's not like what on paper
I should have done that. You don't know. I was like,
what's the best real estate property to bury a body.
It's just a little realistic, not a big deal, just
(35:04):
been like I know, I know exactly, I know, I
like the Dershwitz not backing down at that point and
port Michael Cohn. You just imagine Michael Cohn watching this
and like Sean, like I thought we had something like
we're just friends, like you imagine him just like a
score and lover like I thought we were what was
I thought we were attorney client like we had we
bought those matching exact I mean again, this is another
(35:27):
thing where I think we talked about on the show,
like this is like a cultural myth. I think that
people have been sort of taking in from film and
TV about even like these mob films, that the lawyer
somehow holds all the secrets, is impenetrable and is above
the lawn someway, like he's like Melvoine in the Soprano
Robert exactly. Michael Cohen specifically refers to himself as Consilia exactly,
(35:52):
so that yeah, exactly like these lawyers, yeah exactly. But
this is what happens when you would like to actually,
I mean, that's to think about this. He is a
crime boss like Comy telling Stupopolis he's I kind of
treated like the dinners with Trump were like very mafio
soe and like you pledge your loyalty to the ring,
you kissed the ring, and like that one weird moment
where Trump on TV made a gesture of walking over
(36:14):
to Comey and hugging him, like all these weird mafia
tactics of exactly James, and like, you know that Trump
is so dumb and television adult, Like his ideas of
status and power probably literally are from the Godfather. I mean,
those are his points of status reference. So we're just
seeing this like sad pathetic TV adult brand again. Roy Cohne,
(36:35):
one of his first layers is the notorious mob lawyer
and Riccarthew lawyer. So like it goes back to that
great tweet that this is not a government run media.
This is a media run government, precisely right, all bullshit
media myths. And you know, even the attack on Syria
happens when some devastating footage shows up on Fox News,
(36:57):
Yeah spooky. So uh, there's actually this New Yorker article
that just kind of puts all of this in perspective
from Adam Davidson, the less important Adam. Uh where he
talks about. He puts this in the context the article,
by the way, is uh salacious. Lee called something like
the end of the Yeah, the end stages of the
(37:19):
Trump presidency mark, which sounds like a little bit like
liberal fantasy. So his point, and it's sort of an
impressionist piece of journalism in the sense that he's writing
it from his perspective as a journalist who has lived
through two other things that this experience reminds him of.
He was on the grounded Bagdad, when Bush was standing
(37:41):
in front of that giant mission accomplished banner which I
was noticing earlier today in the office. It's like the
ugliest banner. It's like and taint. It's so weird, like
it's like such a shitty pixelated flag in the background. Uh.
And but the size of it, like it has to
be the size of the Hollywood signs. So like they
(38:02):
just like did it on a word doc and then
we're like here, print this up and just stretch. Yeah. Anyways,
Adam Davidson was right exactly. It wasn't restaurant vector image.
Davidson was on the ground and Bagdad when that was happening,
and he was talking to people so he knew ahead
(38:23):
of the rest of the country and the public that
that was bullshit. This thing was way worse than anybody
thought it was. Uh. He was also reporting on the
financial crisis when that was slowly unfolding, and he, you know,
even puts it he was trying to get it through
his thick skull that this was actually going in a
(38:44):
really bad and you know, he said that he finally
realized it and like what those loans actually were, what
those financial products where, and that they were about to
explode and everybody and that the global economy was going
to be fucked for a little while. Uh. And he
said that at that time, you turned on the TV
on MSNBC or CNBC and people were like, Okay, well
(39:08):
the worst of it's behind us, exactly, and this is
like we're we're heading in the right direction. So he's
saying that's a thing where the preponderance of evidence he
had access to told him things are way worse than
people realize, and this is just the early stages, and
we're about to find out how bad things are. It's
just gonna slowly come out. And he's saying that now
(39:28):
that Cohen's offices have been rated. He knows that that
is the future of the Trump presidency, like before when
it was just Mueller looking into whether there was Russian colusion,
and he was like, it could have gone either way
because he's like, collusion doesn't really make sense for Trump
because it involves a lot of foresight like patients and
diabolical planning that he is not capable of its mentally
(39:51):
fit to execute. So he was like, you know, it
could really go either way. But the one thing he
does know, based on a lot of reporting and everybody
he works with a the New Yorker do loads of
reporting on the Trump organization, is that they are a
criminal organization that has been doing crime in New York
years for years. Uh, there's you know, he talks about
(40:13):
this soho Trump project where Ivanka and Don Jr. Are
essentially on email saying, man, I hope nobody finds out
about these crimes that we're doing, like literally email. Yes,
he basically thinks Ivanka has a very high chance of
getting arrested. Don Junr. Has a high chance of getting arrested.
(40:34):
Like there is just loads and loads of white collar
crime righting that both does and doesn't have to do
with Russian collusion. You know, it's like that Russian inclusion
has been the narrative right now, like, oh, this is
the thing that's going to sing Trump, and I think
this is what really resonable to move about. The article
was just his thing of like the way that narratives change,
and like I was in the like the Iraq narratives,
like we did at mission, accomplished, it's over. Meanwhile I'm
(40:55):
there and like it's far from over. Like that's a
weird narrative, be under it to be like taken as
the like actually here, yeah exactly, and like so I
get what he's saying about this Trump thing. It's like, okay,
this Michael Cone being rated everything. The truth will hopefully
come out. We will learn about the forty years of
gangsterization of the way he runs his real estate business,
just like crimes and sex crimes and illegitimate children everywhere,
(41:16):
and that will become the dominant narrative, and his presidency
will fit into this larger narrative of forty years of
life that he's living. The thing that bums me out
is that And sorry if this sounds arrogant, but didn't
we all all know that before? I mean, like all
the reports that referencing they're like have been out therearies
about that. I am unaware of anybody who has taken
(41:38):
a serious look at Trump's business who doesn't believe that
there is a high likelihood of rampant criminality exactly. And
then he goes on the list like five really clear
cut things and as a Bijan he did business with
a likely money launder for Iran's revolutionary Guard. That like,
there's five other things and he's like those are just
really obvious, like they are really allowed of trouble. Yeah, yeah,
(42:02):
Donaldbanko were investigated for financial crimes associated with Trump hotel
and soho. And then there's an older article where yeah,
there's just all these emails where they're basically, uh, there
was no doubt that the Trump children approved, knew of,
agreed to, and intentionally inflated the numbers of building to
make more sales. Um to me, it was almost the
(42:22):
dumb fucking reality show The Apprentice that changed the area.
It's like, I feel like from the eighties up until
The Apprentice, at the dominant narrative about Trump was that
he was America's favorite crook. That was the whole that
was his He was like a fake as business exactly,
Like he was a fake ass crooked businessman. And that
was like we put up with him because he has
hair and like he's a little funny, So we put
up with him. And then like the Apprentice came along,
(42:43):
and I think maybe people maybe in the Fire States
not to be condescending, but people maybe we're like, oh,
he's a legitimate mogul, like that man really know, Yes,
he's the King Midas. Everything he touches from the gold,
that's not a set decorator creating this, Yes, exactly. But
I thought him as a crooked person was always the narrative.
But I guess this article sort of highlights how to me,
one of my takeaways was like how easily narratives can
(43:06):
just flip and sort of yes, all this proponerative evidence
can just be sort of shuffled aside, and now it's
he's the president with collusion and now it is insanely
powerful man. And I mean, look, it has all these people,
even lawyers thinking attorney claim it doesn't. But yeah, So
basically his summary is that the narrative that will become
(43:27):
widely understood is that Donald Trump did not sit atop
of global empire. He had a small, sad global operation
mostly run by his two oldest children and Michael Khne
and very king Lear is not a company that built
value over decades. It burned through whatever goodwill and brand
value it established as quickly as possible. It basically after
he like bankrupted his fifth casino, people are like, we're
(43:50):
not giving you money, that's right, And so he had
to get all his money from foreign money launderers, and
he's been doing business with foreign money launders and like
he put it in this cricket media interview I heard,
he was like, he's not even going with like the
first moguls that would do business with correct people would
do business with. It's like the moguls in the countries
(44:13):
that like you would go to fifth like as Bijon
is not the first place, and even there you're dealing
with the tertiary scumbags. Yeah. I guess that is the
point though, like it's all about context, Like the collusion thing.
I guess this point, which I hope and pray and
believe is true, is that, like the Russian collusion thing,
will in a year, when now that we know everything
in kone has been rated, we see all the documents,
(44:34):
the Russian collusion fixing, swinging the election, putin hacking Facebook
will fit into just a much larger context of Trump
being a bankrupt asshole, a scumbag real estate I who
had to go to Russia and the Ukraine and all
these other shady B and C level mugguls for money,
and that the collusion thing will fit into that narrative. Yeah. Yeah,
And even if it's not active collusion on his part,
(44:55):
like just the idea that he is compromised, that they
have something on him, I think, above and beyond anything
that Robert Mueller could dig up peepe or not. I mean, like,
that's what's the most frightening thing. Because on Sunday you
had Nicki Haley saying we're gonna sanction Russia. Just get ready,
Steve Manuchin will be unleashing the sanctions and then cut
you yesterday threw her as under the bus. We'll be
(45:15):
thinking about how about that? Yeah, we can that happen.
Last week we did put like harsher sanctions on Russia
after the assassination a couple of weeks ago, then the
UK and attempt attempt France, and uh, he was furious,
like what the funk you guys doing like those are
the homies. So this guy, I mean, he's not even
consistent with where he's at with I mean, we all
(45:37):
know this anyway. Yeah, it's only Tuesday. Let's see what
the fun I'm telling you. By Friday, what then are
we talking about? I don't know. And I probably believe
Sean Hannity. He might have a table with Cardi B
or something. I don't know. Yes, you're really shipping Cardi
B and Sean. Very interesting. I love it. They taste
in celebrity couples. Very interesting. All right, we're gonna take
(45:58):
a quick break. We'll be right back. And we're back.
And during the break, we just had a great moment
where superproducer on A was like, I just don't why
did they run for president? They did all these crimes
(46:19):
because again, I don't think they ever wanted to be
in the White House. Trump was doing a setup movie,
if you remember, he was like, I wanted to do
Trump tvctly this and he was like, oh, shoot, I
got a whole other business I'm about to set up.
I'm gonna have these fucking fans magging out buying my ship.
Cut to people in the Kremlin being like, ain't no
fucking way Hillary Clinton is gonna be president. Do whatever
the funk you have to to make sure this other
(46:41):
dude is in there, who we have a pep tape
or whatever the and now, And even if they didn't
swing the election, I still just don't think that Trump
has control over his own faculties. He is completely driven
by his ego, He has debilitating narcissism. He can't and
Russians if you don't, even if you don't want to
(47:02):
believe that the Russia may have had zero net effect
on the election, I think what we can all agree
on is Trump probably never wanted to actually be the president.
Reporting from inside his situation room on election night as
they realize that he is becoming the president, where his
face goes to ashen and I think Milania is openly weeping.
(47:22):
His family is taking it as a fucking tragedy. And
then Bannon says specifically that like you slowly see him
convince himself that he can do the job. Over the
course of the night, it's final pardon myself, yeah, part
the part of the interruptions. My favorite show passed fourth.
All the interruptions anyway, all right, we wanted to bang
(47:43):
through a handful of quick updates. Uh, Kanye is back tweeting,
saying profound ship profound profound ish does this inevitably and
he has an album coming out? Is that what We're
meant to album come out? That we suspect he is
recording Jack's the Whole Jackson Whole, but be a country
album so far from two hours ago, he tweeted. As
(48:05):
a creative, your ideas are your strongest form of currency.
You have to protect your ability to create at all costs.
Try to avoid any contractual situation where you are held
back from your ideas. Distraction is the enemy of vision.
Sometimes you have to get rid of everything. Everything you
do in life stems from either fear or love. Fear
often causes people to be manipulative. Be transparent as possible.
Stop setting plays, stop playing chess with life. Make decisions
based on love, not fear. Been reworking the production shape
(48:28):
on these rat boots for six months. I'm super happy
with them. I'm excited about the ability to give a
boot a true easy shape, feels more future. So he
kind of had a little Also, that hiking boot looks
like a janky ass boot from like Big five you'd buy.
I'm not liking his shoes as much as I used to. Like.
The new shoes that he's releasing are kind of I'm not,
(48:50):
yeahspect but they look like the sneakers that, yeah, like
your gym teacher wore in the early nineties. Yeah, exactly.
I thought they were like Saknese or like a Via shoes. Yeah. Yeah.
If all those means he has an album coming up,
then we're here for exactly. When I look at this,
I feel like he's explaining why he never want to
(49:10):
pull up towards his first things, right, So that's what
you think, Yes, but he's like sometimes like distraction is
the enemy of vision. Try to avoid any like Escially
says were held back from your ideas because Kendrick is
being like praised for his originality and ingenuity interest honesty.
I don't know. It's just like you haven't tweeted in
a long time. If it has been, has been about
like boot pictures. So yeah, there is zero percent chance
(49:32):
that he doesn't think that he should have gotten a
pullets or not correct correct everybody in that entruge they're
having to be like. Yes. Drake also released the name
of his new album's coming in June, called Scorpions. Scorpions. Okay,
that was very good. I couldn't do it really fully
(49:55):
artist here on studio. Another quick update, Uh, Cardi b
Apparent had a wild performance at Coachella to the point
we didn't talk about that, but yeah that uh, she's
actually losing money. I mean, look, Cardy is the queen
right now. She's got one of the hot, craziest albums
out right, and I think she broke crazy streaming records,
(50:15):
really invasion of privacy. But yeah, we found out there's
some reporting people kind of crunching the numbers. Uh. It
turns out that like her set could cost as much
as four hundred sixty dollars or Coachella set, which is
like very elaborate. The show is crazy. Uh, but that's
for one weekend. She saw has another weekend up. They
say in the lower end it could cost maybe three
(50:35):
k for the stage to be erected goods, and her
fee for playing Coachella is only seventy dollars in the
red there is not equal. That's not good nearly. Yeah,
but yeah, I could just be it as a marketing
expense one. I mean, it's not she's gonna go I mean,
(50:57):
she's fucking on top of the world. You know, She's like,
I'm gonna spend three dollars, do you because the show
was amazing. Although I saw one hilarious tweet about like
the reaction of Cardi's obstetrician O B G y N
right now, and it's like a confused gift of like, wow,
you're tworking fully pregnant, but hey, don't let this stop
you because the second time, Mr, everybody is loving it exactly.
(51:18):
I also like to think that her second weekend, they
scale way back. It's just like, we are you just
gonna do sort of unplugged. The cook you know, said yeah, yeah,
maybe read that article. She's like, that's what it costs. Yeah,
because the festival Coachella is not covering a dime exactly.
They're like, we'll let you perform here if you want
to dress that up. But I think also too things
to consider a lot of people like why should we
(51:39):
getting seventy thousand? Considering where she's that, you have to
imagine she was probably booked at the end of last
summer or fall early fall last year. Her stock was
not in the same place exactly. You know. Yeah, she
would be either headlining or one of the Knights headliners.
Either way, she's winning. Uh. And then finally we wanted
to do a quick appropriation check. Yeah, is there is
(52:00):
this beef being quote unquote playing itself out online between uh,
something called a whoa Vicky and bad Baby. We call
that a baby based on the spelling b h A
d b h A b I E. But that is Daniel.
She came to our attention from her appearance on Dr Phil. Yes,
(52:23):
that cashed me outside cash how about how about that? Yeah?
Her and a young woman named Woa Vicki. Yeah, each
other also crazy problematic. She says she's black. Uh, the
jury is out and has that. Well they've they've just
going hold on, I'm just getting where they've come back. No,
you are white and this is appropriation and you are
(52:45):
a crazy racist caricature. Also, there's some nine year old
named little Ted who is talking crazy ship. These two
were talking shipped to each other, Woa Vicki and bad Baby. Uh,
and like they had like some weird beef. Apparently they
caught her outside at the Americana on Glendale, I guess,
and they started scrapping. But then there's also like a
(53:07):
nine year old girl in the entreage called Little Te.
As you were saying, who I mean her instagram is insane,
She's like you already know what it is, girl, little
t richer than all you bitches. I'm out here with
more cash and you've always got a money phone. She's
all got a money phone. She's nine years old. So
if she's working, then we need to call CPS because
(53:28):
somebody's putting this child to work exactly. But I don't
even know what to say about this. It's crazy to
even see young white kids appropriating like rapper beef culture
and this whole ship like they were acting like they
were tough. It's mind blowing to watch this video. I
don't know. I'm discussed. Where do I g rap and cash?
(53:48):
And forgive me, I'm a little behind the april on
the story, but like cash, she has a wrap deal.
She can wrap atlantic. Yes, wildly problematic, but like she
sounds yeah, but well, Vicky isn't aspiring that she's like
an up and coming back. Okay, okay, fine, and Little
te is just came out of work. Yeah, who is
(54:09):
this young girl who like is calling VICKI here's just
it's confusing. Track is the next Tu Puck. Absolutely, But
what's funny is when you watch them start fighting, you
can tell little te is just a nine year old
child who is probably not from the streets or any
kind of tough situations because she falls a way out
of frame real quick when the handstar flying. She's like, fine,
I'm nine. I'm still nine. That the thing that I
(54:31):
was saying, like you're not to producer Sophie Lichtman was like,
I was like, isn't she nine? She was like, yeah,
where her parents? Right? I was like, no, She's gonna
get her ask kicked. She's so small, her little body,
nine year old body. Yeah, gosh. Adam has been a pleasure,
has always a treat. I really appreciate you guys having
the backgrounds. Thank you so much. He's having you. Where
(54:54):
can people find you? Okay? So Twitter at Adam Lustic,
Instagram at Adam Lustic, My Budy Billy and I have
a podcast every Friday called No Joke that's at No
Joke pod over on the head gum Networks, and that's
where I'll be. Yeah, uh Miles, yeah, hey man, Hi, uh?
Where where can people find? Oh? You find me on
(55:14):
Twitter and Instagram at Miles. You can find me on
Twitter at Jack Underscore Me a hot now Jack Underscore O'Brien.
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off to the information contained in two days episode. That's
gonna do it for today, Miles, what are we gonna
write out? Okay, so you know we're still in that
ViBe's go for twenty week now. This is actually a
track from washed Out. Now. You might know washed Out
from doing the soundtrack to port Landia. That's like what
his hit is, right, feel it all around now? He
(55:55):
before that, when he was just making beats like in
the Woods of Georgia, he had a mixtape called High Times,
which is why I'm putting it in the category of
high music. Uh, and you guys, this was a really
dope he tape he made. It's kind of not like
his other stuff. But this is a track called luck Off.
Washed Out a little mixtape called High Times. Enjoy it
at least a little two minute fiber but you know, guys,
(56:17):
relax and you know again, it's only Tuesday. Who knows
what we will be talking about and even in twelve hours,
don't music will exist in two days? Yeah yeah, yeah,
all right, enjoy that. That's gonna do it for today.
We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast.
Talk to you guys, then you will you
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