“Planned” Vacay, State Fair Fare 8.9.19

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Hello, Hello, Please leave all this in Hello the Internet,
and welcome to season ninety four, Episode five of The
Daily Zeitgeist, a production of I Heart or Dial. Okay,
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is a podcast when we take a deep dive into
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It is Friday, August nine. My name is Miles Gray,

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a k A. I am no for being myself Gray.
I am known for eating fast food almost every day.
Life of the body, like to smoke my bow. Oh
tell you man, you simp the musco. Yeah. I'll try

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anything that you want to do. Do Yeah. I almost
sim that you want me to do. Yeah. But I
can't speak for check no, no, no Candy. I can't
speak for check no, no can do. You got to

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respect the rhythm of the no can do and no
can do. Okay, that's very important. So hondos Aks, I've
not ended, neither has my love for them. Thank you
to everybody who put my attention onto that hotline. I'm
not called it yet. I don't want to true my life,
but thank you too, wide awake at three forty five
am for that. Can't go for that. Now we have

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a guest toast someone who whose name it inspires many,
not because of the way it just rolls off your tongue,
but for the amount of letters that can be recombined
to create an infinite number of combinations that are so
inspiring their unbelievable. Not only is this person a someone

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with a mastress degree okay, in film writing okay, this
person is a comedian doing good in the world, teaching classes,
trying to educate others on how to be a good comedian.
Also the host of a seminal podcast, one might say,
one known as the beck Del Cast. Now, it is
my pleasure, my honor, to introduce today's guest co host,

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Caitlyn Durante a K A Latin dancer U T A
K nine tit Dracula, Hey K Lauren d Titanic K.
This is a new one. You're in addict, feel at

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filled with urine and then a deal that maybe happens
within that attic or a deal to sell that attict.
It could be an act, not an addict. Oh you're
an addict deal. Wow, Like so right, like it's a
urine deal going down in an addict exactly. Yes, yes,
that's what people do when they want to test clean
on p tests, So maybe it should be addict urine deal.

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There was a basketball player recently who um on his
drug tests found out he was pregnant, and they're like,
what the fuck? And at first people are really confused.
Then they realized he stole his girlfriend urine to kiss
clean on the test and she didn't even know. Oh
my god. They're like they're like, um, first of all,
your band for a year, and also congratulations where they're pregnant. Also,

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it wasn't like an Arnold Schwarzenegger in junior being pregnant
kind of thing. Got it? But when will the when
will science catch up and allow people with penises to
become pregnant and carry the baby like SI gendered men
to have children. Yes, uh, we'll see. I mean I

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talked about this whenever we talk about male pregnancy. Brett
Weinbach has a video where you can see someone give
birth through a penis and what that would look like,
and it's horrifying, But you know, what if that's what
y'all go through, then we should go through to necessarily
you should like give birth to a penis. That's where
I'm that's my stance, Okay, I mean brave. Thank you
so much. Don't say it wasn't an outlet. Okay, um,

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and we are thrilled to be joined in our guest
start spot. A first time guest, but a longtime friend
of mine and someone who I've been dying to you
on the show. Now, I would describe this person first
and foremost as a human being, then a comedian, then
a writer on the podcast Love It or Leave It
with John love it on another network, decent network, but

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a different one. Still love it, I won't leave it.
And also a true daughter of Iowa. Please welcome Joss Coffee. Hello,
thank you for having me, Thank you for coming. Jos. Yes,
I'm the corn Queen and that's why I'm going to
brand myself as a new guest. I'm a sludge queen,
sludge slug for sludge. I'm part of a podcast. So

(05:15):
you're gonna be doing right about healthcare. It's already dropped,
two episodes already out baby, Okay, Well, we'll have to
let you all know about that. Later on he used
sludge to me twice, and she's like, you'll hear more.
Are you confused? Everyone? Just wait, just keep listening, um, Jossy.
Before we get into your life and who you are,
let's give people a quick preview about what we're gonna

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talk about today. Okay, Look, we're going to talk about
a historic ice raid, not in a good way, in
a really terrible, funcked up way that happened in Mississippi,
and a weird coincidental fact about you know, raids and
worker abuse, and sometimes raids tend to follow up allegations
of worker abuse. But I don't know, not saying I'm
not saying once connect to the other, but there might

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be some example. Those worker abuse claims never get addressed
right well, and sometimes they do, but we'll get into
that even more. Tucker Carlson, Uh, you know he obviously
somehow his racist dial didn't even go up to eleven.
It went to fucking nineteen. He turned it up to twenty,
um and suddenly took a vacation that I was already planned. Okay,
it was very planned, so it's not about anything else.

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He was planned. It's fine, he's planned, okay, And then finally,
because we have an actual is one here um, and
I have a love for your state, I must be honest.
The state Fair began yesterday Thursday. Uh, and you know,
I just want to go over some of the food,
the new food items with you, and also just to
show me what it's like to be part of your world. Yeah,

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of course, I can't wait. I was at the top
of the research and development of consumable foods for sure,
were you yeah, pushing boundaries? No, I would really actually
believe that. Yeah, oh yeah, No, we do like produce
like sev of the world's edible corn and that's These
are the facts that I'm bringing hot. Yeah. Thanks, and
also big thanks to the corn lobby that paid for

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you to be here. Oh yeah, I'm rolling in it
stantial donation to our show that they gave and they're like,
we don't know, just get jos. Yeah. The corn lobby
is funding my Hollywood lifestyle and I am on rooftop
bars every night telling people facts, yeah, and ordering the appetizers.
You're like, Mama Shelter. You're like you tried the street
cos and like, actually you gotta you can. You can
sit at the tables if you actually order food. Okay,

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let's get into it. Jossy, what is something from your
search history that's revealing about who you are? I I
yesterday googled Spencer Pratt politics because I was like, so, okay,
there was a headline where Orange County officially flipped blue.
Where now in Orange County, which is like a long

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time it was like the so cow Republican stronghold yet yeah,
and it's also that's why it's like the scariest place
to drive because of all of the rich people and
the Republicans. But they flipped blue, and I was like, wow,
is this the end of an o c era? And
I was thinking of the heroes and the titans of
the Orange County and I was thinking of Spencer Pratt

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and Spencer from Orange County. I mean they were in
the Hills, oh ship, I guess I don't know. Yeah,
I mean, look, I'm from l A, so I'm very particular.
You know, Spencer Pratt might be our track and that's
not honestly, that's on me. But what are his politics?
Because I know everyone forget who it was. Steve Fernandez,
I think, was the one saying that the New Hills
is like a really interesting take on like these people's

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friendships as they become adults, and like there's a lot
of it's not just sort of what he was saying,
not just vapid reality show, which to me turned me
off because I'm only there for the if you will
um but I wasn't sure if you'd seen the show
and there's something from the show, but you were just curious. Yeah, yeah,
well I did come into the Laguna Beach franchise at

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the Hills, so yeah, so and then I went back
and watched Laguna Beach, which was subtitle as The Real
O c So this massive world to me. But very
quick Google search, I found out that they are both Republicans,
Heidi and Spencer, and it's just like, I think that's
what I knew I was, that's the result I was
expecting to get. Yeah, I was like, I was like

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what if. I was like, there's a world where like
Spencer Pratt is like a huge Bernie supporter or something
like that, they could be any right, I mean I
thought he was into crystals. It's weird. He has a
lot of the cultural totems of like a liberal. But
of course, baby with that face and you're Twindling Bank account,
of course. I mean Spencer Pratt contains multitudes. I was like,
maybe he's got this textured wants approach. He might actually

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be one of those people like, look, I'm a libertarian, okay, yeah,
but I wouldn't go on I will say on this
Google search, I did do the thing where they like
give you that window of the first search result and
then it's like a paragraph in quote and it just
said Spencer Pratt Republican and I did not click on it.
So I don't want to minimize that he has in

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his political and that might be an old article. You know,
maybe if you actually did some googling, you see that
he is a full on Elizabeth Warren. Yeah. Maybe he
like expressed a lot of remorse after the twenty sixteen
election and really got his boots on the Actually know,
he would be Yangang. What am I saying? I think?
Oh no, he would be Mary and Williamson. Oh yeah,
I believe because he likes that, like that crunchy crystal ship.

(10:20):
You know what I mean, he doesn't believe in vaccinations.
I'm sure, Hey man, it's there. It's their choice. Man,
these kids you get hurt, you know what I mean
these parents are freaked out. Man. Yeah, I mean yeah,
it's very sympathetic. Yeah. Um, what's something that's overrated? Okay,
so this is maybe one of my most unpopular opinions.
And I have a lot of bad opinions, but I

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think Magic Mike XXL is overrated, and I know it's
like weird to be coming out of I have no
I don't have no idea. Okay, okay, So Magic Mike
is XXL is a sequel to the first Magic Mike.
I have to say. They go to Vegas for like this. Yeah,
it's a it's a road trip comedy on some male

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comedy and what I So I watched this New Year's
Eve first hour of because I was like, everyone likes
this movie. I want to start my year off right
with something I know will be a hit. And like
what I watched was just like so demoralizing because it
was pitched to me as like, oh, it's like finally,

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like it's empowering to women to like have this sexuality
on display, like the female gaze, yes, yeah, yeah yeah,
and like the female gaze and like, oh, it's just
like fun and it's for women and everything. But like
I think it's trash. I haven't seen the first Magic Mike,
but like what I watched sucked because first of all,

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I don't like Steven Soderberg, and I think that that's
that makes me. I just haven't found what I like
from him yet. If I did a style, very smart
me and I think he did the cinematography and Magic
Mike XXL. And there's like literally a scene for chanting.
Tatum and Amber heard are lit by its scene is
like chevy like or dodged Durango headlights and like like

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you cannot see them at all, and I'm like, is
this good? Like I'm watching this maybe my yeah. And
also they're like no women behind the camera. There's no
There might be one female producer, but it's directed, written, shot, etcetera.
Even the costumes are done by a man. There's a
female who's the head of makeup, but like everything else,

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so this is okay. So it's catering to like the
straight female gaze, but it's still all created by but
it's still in the guise of men because like people
are like and then the characters are constantly talking about
how they're healers and they're like and like women have
tough days, and it's like, and that's why we got
a jackhammer dicks in their face, because that is that

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is the climax of every single app dance in that
movie ends up with either one or two of the
men jackhammering their dicks in the face of a woman
while they go like, ah, yeah, yeah, this is what
women like, right yeah, and it's like your manager and
asshole harassing you. How about my fucking dick in your face.
Then like two their two I think really bad scenes,

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and one is where Donald Glover and Matt Bomer in
a scene that's shot like by like cops style dash cam,
like like like dual coverage angle dash cams, they're like
doing an improvised twelve minute dialogue of them pretending to
be unsuccessful and talking about breaking into the industry. And

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so it's like Matt Bomer and Donald Glover earnestly being
like yeah, I mean like like Donald glomer is like yeah,
I mean, like I want to do this music thing,
but like I don't know, like maybe my voice just
isn't meant to be heard. And it's like and then
Matt bombers like I've been trying to act for for
a while, and I'm just waiting for that one audition.
But man, maybe I'm just meant to be a dancer

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the rest of my life. Boy, it's so self indulgent.
It made me stopping at Donald Glover fan for like
like two minutes. Two minutes. Yeah, it was really hard
and the next thing came out. Okay, I was like,
oh no, I can't listen to Freaks and Gigs. Wait,
I have a question. Yeah, you said you watched it
at the end of into like, so it was technically

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did you time it so that, like when the ball
would be dropping, the pants would be dropping? I had maybe, Okay, Okay,
if I had, maybe I would have liked it. Do
you know the origin story of Magic Mike? Not really.
I remember I've seen both of them. I remember being
pretty underwhelmed by especially I would say double. The only

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thing I remember honestly from either the movies is Channing Tatum,
like fucking a table saw or whatever. I will say
the best, the best scene, like to two Genuine's Ponies. Yeah,
I I sometimes just watched that on YouTube. It's funny.
I asked you that because I was trying to set
you up for that bit you do where you're gonna
say Mike was not bit by a magic fight? Do

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know the origin story of magic Mike? Um? In theory, hopefully,
if it was a good movie, it would be about
a Mike that was bitten by a radioactive magic I
guess magic Johnson. I don't know, okay, but it is

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not about that, therefore it's not a good movie. I
just like the last scene where Wow, you want to
talk about body rolls. You want to just roll your
body to something that final dance? Yeah? Um, okay, Now
what is something that is underrated? Let's see underrated? I

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have Okay, So I think that the the system, the
Nintendo DS is underrated as a gaming system, and I
think it often gets called just for babies, like and
that's because Nintendo's is one of the best games on
it where you just like pet and bathe and feed
dogs and throw them frisbees. Um. But actually they're like

(16:20):
really good, like adult games like Phoenix right Attorney at Law.
And also you can play game to advanced cartridges on it,
so there's like an attorney based game where you have
to like this is like definitely, so I'm projecting right now.
I don't want to buy a Nintendo Switch because it's expensive,

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but I do still have my Nintendo just trying to rationalize, yeah,
it's actually a really good system, and um, yeah, there's
this attorney game where you're just like, it's really sexist actually,
like all the women are all the women's characters are like, no,
they're all like stupid or horny, and women are that
like as a stupid, horny person, I do relate and

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see myself in the character. But but yeah, there's a
my my former boss reckond A mended this DS game
to me and I finally got around up playing it
yesterday and I was like, Okay, maybe I'm a big
DS girl now. I also think that the Nintendo DS
is cool because the DS just stands for dual screen
because it has two screens. Oh oh that's the one

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that flips up. Yeah yeah screen bottom ones a touch screen.
I'm saying specifically, the oldest model of it is good
because it's the one I have and I don't want
to buy underrated. Just like using this as a time
to rationalize that you may have something obsolete, but like
it's actually really chill. Also, like I don't know if
you guys ever had game Boys or game Boy Advance

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or everything like that. But like Nintendo products are undestructible.
I think of like an indestructible and oh, fuck, you
cannot distructing teacher Mrs Schultz, who would be like, oh
is that similar to this word? I feel small and
I'm twelve. This isn't good for my enthusiasm. Um. Yeah,

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there is something about like the first game Boy had
the gray one that was the very first chunky one.
I couldn't tell you I fucking dropped. It's like in
the air. It's a brand that's meant to be like
hurled out of a suburban window, like on a freeway.
Like sometimes like I really get carried away thinking like

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what if Nintendo went the Apple route and got into
the smartphone game because I think a Nintendo a smart
game anymore. Yeah, yeah, and it would last forever. And
I think that, like, like they have such high respect
right now that I think that they could actually challenge
the iPhone because like you watch an old reality show
and you're like, it's it's crazy. It's like there's Envy's

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on there, there's chocolates on there, there's all these competing
cellphones that remember when cellphones were cool, d. Is that
the LG wasn't LG choc Yeah yeah yeah. Or I
had a razor when I got my curd, I had
an envy envy yeah wow, okay, And that motor screens

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used to like flip up the slide everything. Yes, I'm
like sometimes I sometimes I yearn for that because look,
just tape an old cell phone to the back of
your d and then I will look awesome on the
subway and business calls. Yeah, like, yes, look at my phone.
I do want to toast twice and then I'm going

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to do all my business calls at the subway where
business happened exactly. Um. Finally, what's a myth, Josey, What's
something that people just get wrong? You know? Yeah? So
I grew up my whole life thinking that birds were
the lamest animals. Yeah, like especially like pet birds. Like
I didn't understand the other of parakeets all birds they

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like rats of the sky, you know, yeah, yeah, truly
I And I also thought people who liked birds were lame.
Like if you're a bird person, I'm guilty of that.
You're a bird person having right, Like if you're like
cat or dog and someone's like, can I say bird,
You're like, really, you want something that's going to ruin

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us watching TV for every eight minutes. But I recently
went two hours out of Los Angeles to a place
called ostrich Land, USA. What and it is this massive
like open plane area with a fence where you and
it just has dotes upon hundreds of ostriches, which I

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learned are the only bird that has three toes. And
when they say to a t, when they say to you,
here is the thing. All birds are dinosaurs, and all
dinosaurs are birds. I've seen Jurassic Park and under Yeah,
when you feed an ostrich it is terrifying because that's

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what you do. You pay. First of all, it's like
only five dollars to get in to get your hand
bitten off? Do you go? And one dollar to buy
a little plate of food that's literally in like a
dust pan, Like it's like a broom room dustpan. Here's
a dustpan cut out circle where like pellets or like

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a bowl of pellets are and they're like, okay, you
have to grasp it by two hands, extend your entire
arms and then like the ostriches, first of all, their
necks are hoses of muscle and they like they can
go under things. They can like wiggle under the fence
and poke their and it's like four ft long neck.
These things are terrifying and also like amazing, like yeah,

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and then they like peck with the speed and the
sound of a staple gun. That's how they eat. They
just like they just like pierce an attack and bite
and that's how they eat. That smell like, you know,
not as bad as you think. In my mind, a
bird just smells like a huge bird like smells like
absolute shit. I don't know how those feathers like they

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just feel like spoke. Yeah, I would not touch any
of these birds, and then so why would not respect them? Now?
But I will never On one end, they have ostyges,
which are also have long beautiful eyelashes like cartoons cats
or something like truly like beautiful eyes. And then on
the other side they have EMUs, which just are raptors.

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Like EMUs are our height, if not taller. They have
these crazy predator eyes, and like, so what do we
need to do to address this threat? So what they're
saying is that birds have will long outlive us and
have already like lived way earlier than us. So I

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think we need to respect the birds a little more.
What do you think now of a bird person? Because
before you're like a bird person now in your new
Well is it bad if I still don't like bird people?
Well what is it about a bird person you think?
Is they're not that someone's not sitting right. I think,
like you know, bird it's just bird people are a

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little kinky. I think vanilla. Yeah, I think I'm too
vanilla to be a bird person. And so like it's
not even that they are bad, it's just that, like
I haven't challenged myself. I'm intimidated by someone who knows
when they're a child that they're a bird person. When
you have these options of like furry cat, soft dog,

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scary bird, like I'm all about these feathers. Yeah, so
I think it's like a thing where it's like in nineteen,
I've learned this valuable lesson and maybe I can, like
I can like grow inwardly. This is a rom com.
Your destiny is to be with a bird person. Yeah, yeah,
so I'm or I don't know which one or that
one of those. Yeah, Like I want to see like Godzilla,

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King of Monster style movies, but with birds, Like when
you go to this Ostrich farm, does like Sam Neil
come out with like Ostrich claw and he's like, this
is going to slice you across your belly, spilling your intestines.
And everyone's like you have to be that loud mouth. Yeah,
just like a big turkey, like, oh yeah, it's close.

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Yeah I heard in the original script um he actually
just slashes his belly open with the raptor claw, just
eviscerates him, and it was like, oh my god, and yeah,
gold blument just taking over the anyway, It's just one
of the many eviscerating scenes left on Spielberg's cutting room. Actually,
like he cuts a lot of body horse. Yeah, it's weird.

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It's weird. He loves boys, journeys and body horror by
a thousand claws. All right, let's take a quick break
and we're gonna be right back and we're back high.

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How is everybody in during that break? Yeah? Okay, great, Yeah,
I really implored myself a sip of peach, pair of Lacroix.
Good flavor, good flavor, good flavor. They're on their way down,
it seems like as a company. So yeah, they're they're
earnings are falling. Challenges that are cheaper. Well that and
they're just you know, people caught on They're like, wait,

(25:25):
people just like flavor bullshit and the sparkling right now,
everyone's like, oh, here's ours. Oh you just take water
and inject essence of flavor. Yes, exactly. Um. So something
I wanted to talk about, um to switch gears a
bit too, uh not lighter fair, heavier fair is there
was a really big ice raid in Mississippi on Wednesday,

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historic rate and they say that because they picked up
six eight workers in a single day across seven food
processing plants in six cities. And predictably, most of these
people were Hispanic workers who were undocumented. Uh. These weren't
people who were like running away. They had addresses. There
was a lot of people are like why this version

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of rounding people up on the first day of school. Also,
so there were a few kids who finished the day
writing out that their parents were in custody. I think
as of right now about half had been released. Um
while like the other three fifty or so are still
in custody. But it's just one of these, you know,
just strange timing, right because just as Trump was in

(26:33):
El Paso consoling people, quote unquote or the consoling the
victims of a racially motivated terrorist attack. Uh, you just
have you know Gestapo two point o rounding people up.
And again like these ice raids that are obviously meant
to terrify undocumented people are nothing new. But a lot
of the activists that are involved with workers in these

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processing plants and just general immigration activists have pointed out
like a little bit of a coincidence with the timing
of certain raids. Um, So this one raid at Coke
Foods somehow completely unrelated to Coke Industries somehow, because I
was like, of course, if somehow is the one thing
that's just some other people who are exploiting immigrant labor.

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They had basically been hit with just substantial legal trouble
um just a year ago. So in ten there was
a nearly eight year long legal battle with this company.
They had to settle for three and three point seven
five million dollars that was brought by the Federal Equal
Employment Opportunity Commission because there was allegations that supervisors at

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this plant were engaging in sexual harassment and racial harassment
of the female workers at this plant. Specifically, these allegations
were about supervisors were touching and we're making sexually suggestive
comments to these female employees, hit Hispanic employees and charged
many of them money for normal everyday work activities. So
this was just off the walls bullshit. And then like

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at some point there was a consent decree they had
to set up a twenty four hour hotline for workers
to be able to make complaints about their treatment, and
then boom, this this is one of the raids that
gets hit. Now that that was a year, like a
long time had passed, But in June of last year,
there was another sort of similar raid out of meat
packing plant in Salem, Ohio, um where ICE rated this place,

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the fresh Mark meat Packing Plant, and they arrested a
hundred forty workers. A week before that raid, OSHA, the
Occupational Safety and Health Administration find this company two thousand
for three different incidents where they said they were there
were not proper guards for dangerous machinery, and eventually that

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resulted in the death of one undocumented worker whose leg
got caught in a rotating augur and bled to death.
And then boom, a raid happened. So a lot of
these people are saying, like this is thing they've seen
before where there was another plant to where a banker
anonymously called and said, I think they're undocumented people working

(29:07):
at this plant now based on what I think, because
they just know and whether that whether or not. That's
a way to indirectly retaliate for these people, saying like,
because that's sort of the power dynamic, right, It's like
you shouldn't, we shouldn't be hiring you, but we're hiring you.
And part of that is going to be we will
treat you, which means just ignore the abuse that you

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know what I mean and right, And so the U.
S Attorneys that was announcing, oh, we've we've this is
a record raid on undocumented people. Um, they're saying like
this is a message to the people who employed these
people also, we're also going to get you. But as
of right now, a lot of the reports said neither
of these are These companies in Mississippi didn't have any

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specific legal jeopardy they were in. And sometimes these companies
will cut a deal with ICE to say, okay, look,
if we tell you we have these undocumented people can
do a ray it will you be more lenient on
us for hiring them. And I think that's just really
fucked up, because really the massive amounts of penalties need
to be going against these companies that are even engaging

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in this, which is creating this like to exploit the
labor and then be able to hide behind their undocumented
status to abuse them is absurd. And the fact that
even these companies can cut deals for breaking the law
in order to you know, subject these people to like
whatever the fund is going to happen. I mean, we
heard about someone who was in ice attention who was
deported to a country they had never even been to,

(30:31):
um and then had died as a result because they
weren't getting their medication. Um. This is just sort of
like the situation that all of this is swirling around
and it's all meant to terrorize these people. UM. And
I yeah, this is just kind of this is all
becoming far too normal. UM. And you know, while a

(30:51):
lot of these companies want to say like, oh, there's
there's no relationship between these raids happening and like the
abuse they're reporting, it doesn't look good. Yeah, like the
labor abuse narratives of these like massive companies or so
it's like Upton Sinclair's of the Jungle and it's like
what what's going to be the story that finally gets

(31:14):
people to sympathize with this really fucked up relationship. There
were some people who were being interviewed that were like
in the town, and they were saying, like some people, like,
you know, the narrative of like immigrants are taking their jobs,
it wasn't that big to some people. And I don't
know how you know, liberal this person was and may
have been looking through the rosiest lenses, or even a
conservative who was in denial about the racism that might

(31:36):
be present in their community. Um, but they were saying
that they did realize like that when they saw people
like whose kids were going to school with their kids
completely distraught over the fact that their parents had been
ripped away, Like that seemed to connect with some people
because I think on some level, right like if you,
if you're any parent, you would never think like, hey,

(31:57):
do you want your kids to suffer for a decision
you made. I don't think any parent would ever be like, yeah,
that's on my kid. And I think you see, kids
sort of have to bear the brunt of that maybe
knocked some schoolers, but again, it doesn't seem like it
because too many people are really invested in this demonization
of of of immigrants to this country. And also if

(32:18):
you just think of like the deportation of like hundreds
and hundreds of people with families and everything, that's just
like a devastation that's going like that causes trauma for
decades and decades. And this is the thing that I'm
also worried about with the violence that's going on and
these kinds of raids like this is this trauma that
they're causing can manifest into something much darker down the road.

(32:41):
When you have these victims of this kind of direct
like sort of terroristic treatment where they're constantly saying like, oh,
this government has been treating me like a sub human,
ripping my family apart, with no care for my humanity,
people can get radicalized in the other direction totally, you know,
like and that's really something that's ignored. It's always like, well,

(33:01):
what's the cost to cost a hundred eight dollars to
detain people? There's also a really significant psychological emotional toll
distakes on many people. So yeah, it can't just be
sort of you know, measured in facts and figures and
numbers like that. And I wish I like we're like
even surprising that the companies are working with the government
to reduce their sanctions, but like, yeah, it's just like

(33:23):
prosing no, no at this point. Well, and this is
why we need actual immigration reform, and also like clearly
there's a need for this kind of labor, then why
not find a way for these people to become American citizens? Right?
I mean, and that's part of the narrative, which is that, um,
you know, immigrants come to this country for better opportunities
for themselves and probably more often than not, their children,

(33:46):
and they are forced generally into these undesirable, unsafe jobs
and horrible working conditions, and then they can't even do
that because of these raids. And like it was funny
on one of I think it was on msn SEE
or so someone was like, oh, so now that these
plants got raided, are a bunch of American people lining
up to work there and they're like no, no, And

(34:07):
they're like, oh, so that'll probably be another just going
to like shift over to another base of documented workers
or something like like the companies don't care about can
be exploit under pay and put in these awful working conditions.
Well it's not here, then let's build the factory where
those people are, because it's not here. Moving on to uh,

(34:30):
you know the awesome stuff that's happening in this country.
Um fucker Carlson was. You know, he made waves earlier
this week because you know, the El Paso shooting was
a white nationalist, white supremacist terror attack, and we saw
Republicans and Conservatives doing all kinds of mental gymnastics to

(34:51):
try and be like, nope, I'm neo and the matrix
because I don't I will reality touch me right now,
and trying to argue all these things. What the problem is,
What problem isn't is it video games? Is if drag
queen advocates as that one woman said, yeah, she said,
drag queen advocates, Oh, they're reading stories to our kids.
Have first of all, queen advocate. Am I a drag

(35:13):
queen advocate? Because I would give a dollar at a show.
I'm a drag queen advocate. Financially, I'm investing and the
drag queen drag queens will bring joint to your life, Deborah,
So Tugger Carlston decided to get on his soapbox and
just absolutely ship out of his mouth but the whole
thing is a lie. If you were to assemble a list,

(35:36):
a hierarchy of concerns of problems this country faces, where
would white supremacy be on the list, right up there
with Russia? Probably It's actually not a real problem in America.
The combined membership of every white supremacist organization in this country,
were they able to fit inside of college football stadium.
I mean, seriously, this is a country where the average

(35:57):
person is getting poorer with a suicide right, is spiked
white supremacy. That's the problem. This is a hoax, just
like the Russia hoax. It's a conspiracy theory used to
divide the country and keep a hold on power. That's
exactly what's going on. Thanks Thanks for that insight into
racial relations in this country. I mean he does point

(36:19):
to a couple of things. Yes, the suicide rate is
very high, especially for white men, and there is a
lot of sociologists are looking into it. And as we
see constantly, right, the perceived power of white men is waning.
So there is this, you know, by any means necessary
grab to last ditch effort to hold onto power. And
I talked about this, I think maybe on Monday but

(36:40):
the logical next step for people who do not feel
powerful is to regain control or a sense of power
through destruction. And this is what we're seeing through uh
suicide rates or even when we see a lot of
these shootings where you have like you know, people who
are these like either doing crimes because or these mass
shootings out of misogyny. Um, and they're sort of part

(37:02):
of this like in cell mentality or white supremacy. They're
all born out of this thing of like my powers
now I must destroy. That's true, Tucker, And that's actually
what this problem is. Well yeah, no, it's like he's saying,
like the basement isn't flooding, My pants are just wet.
Like he's like saying all these reasons that are not connecting,
but look at your feet. You're you're you're standing in

(37:23):
three ft of water. Yeah yeah, but that but but
I feel my wet pants. It's not the flood. I'm working.
This is so connected to me. So after this, right
then on Wednesday he doubled down and was like, you know,
this is going to lead to a civil war, And honestly,
I mean it's you just gotta be whiney. Yeah, and
everything is bad, and you know that this this is

(37:44):
the kind of talk that's going to lead the country
to destruction. Your materializing about tie right now, thank you somehow,
And after that rant, like at the end of his episode,
he's like, I will be um taking a vacation. I'm
gonna be going He said something like, I'm gonna go
to the mountains to fish with my son. And sometimes
politics isn't everything, and sometimes fishing with your son needs

(38:05):
to be. And I was planning this the whole time.
It's not because I fucking do what Fox News does,
which is just be a mouthpiece for white supremacy. But
again he did it to the point where as we've
seen time and time again that money is the only
thing that talks with Fox News because these like fucking
quote unquote planned vacations happened every time one of their

(38:26):
fucking ship head anchors goes shoots off at the mouth.
It's something Bill O'Reilly did that he suddenly went on
vacation right before he got the fucking ax overall of
his sexual harassment. Laura Ingram had to go to the
fucking woods for a little bit after she came after
David hog Um about like not getting into college, and
people like what the funk is like? And you know

(38:47):
what happened was advertiser started bailing and then like go
on vacation and maybe we can get these people back.
So again we say Fox Fox News for a reason.
It's because they're constantly putting these messages out there that
are poisoning people's minds. And like we've said in the
past and even yesterday, it's never too late to come back. Okay,

(39:08):
I understand if you are digesting a fucking it's the
same thing. If I heard nickel Back my whole life
and nothing else, I might think nickel Back was the
greatest band of all time. You know that's a bad example,
because nickel Back is the greatest band objectively. Dad hits
for a reason. Okay, saving me, it's worth saving me.
Prison gates won't open up for me these hands in Okay.

(39:33):
The versatility of your singing voice, Miles, I yeah, okay,
I didn't even get to comment on the false side
of about my voice. Somehow it's about white supremacy. Um
get discovered. If you keep singing like a star is born.
If Chad goes down, look hit me up, guys, I
can hit the road down. But again, it's this whole

(39:57):
idea that if this is your meat a diet, this
is fucking you up. And this is the fucking terrible
thing about Fox News. And if you look at the advertisers, right,
a lot of people do wake up when this happens
because people they're outrage is enough that people are full
throatedly saying, I'm not going to are you kidding me?
This is where you're putting your advertising on this show.
You're choosing to you know, uh, support this kind of message.

(40:20):
When people get on the phones or actually just stop
buying it, they're like, okay, we're out. Many companies wake up.
I do just want to still call out these motherfucker's
that are still advertising despite everything. Tugger Carlson let half
the time though, I'm like, okay, yeah, I don't really
use any of the ships. My pillow, My pillow guy,

(40:42):
he is so in for an infomercial King and and
recovering um crack addict. Yeah, so he's got this crazy narrative.
He says that he has the best pillow and the
pillow has like the packet my mom caught me on
my pillow, poor Christmas. Yeah, Yeah, it is like stuffed

(41:02):
in my closet because it's like too small of a
It's like a small pill It's a pillow a little
larger than the size of a clean xbox and it
can't buy pillow cases for it. It's too fucking tiny.
It's in the back of my closet. That's that's what
my pillows doing. Also weather Tech, if you know they
do like interior carpet protection plastic. I think that's more
for people who have like snow and rainy conditions where

(41:23):
you're bringing it in your car. Targeted to the Hello
Fresh okay podcast? Now if this they think they're based
in Germany, But anyway, I don't know. They are still
advertising Sandals resorts. Come on, nobody's gonna she's don't go
to Sandals. Zona Health. Uh they sell medical devices for

(41:46):
the treatment of hypertension. Okay, okay. Wesley Financial Group consumer
rights group that specializes in timeshare cancelations. I used them
every day. How how gonna get keep getting fooled into
buying times and a for profit cancer treatment center. So

(42:07):
these are but I get. But it's it's interesting because
when you look at the people who have jumped ship
it's a pretty impressive list. I mean, not that it's impressive,
it's more that they're like, oh, yeah, yeah, moneis are
God not. We don't have morals, we have money concerns,
so this is what we're doing. So yeah, please keep
your eye on those companies. And this is just sort
of again one of the reasons why Fox is so

(42:29):
so fucked up. Um, they really have no interest in
any kind of reasonable discourse. They're just there to be
a propaganda wing for the hate that lives on the right. Um.
One thing I do want to bring up to is, look,
Donald Trump has been failing on so many levels from
a foreign policy position. Obviously, Uh, North Korea is still

(42:49):
doing nuclear tests and he's like, yeah, but they're like
the ones, so it's a good even though he was
like no, uh, Kim John Lune is my best friend.
I don't know if y'all saw we were like hugging
North Korea. Everything's good, but he's still not listening to me.
And actually there there's absolutely no respect. Then the trade war, right,
they escalating tariffs there there, they labeled China currency manipulator,

(43:13):
and then China really hit a body blow of the
US this week. When they basically said we're suspending all
imports of United States agricultural goods into this country. That
is fucking huge because that is a huge market for
the farmers of this country and the certain crops that
they grow and now basically seeding ground to like with
one of the largest agricultural trade partners to like Russia

(43:34):
and Brazil and being like, oh, now that that's a
that's a dimension of trade that I don't know where
they're going to come back from that. And I don't
think there's any level of farm subsidies that Trump can
pay these farmers with that they are gonna be like, yeah,
but I need to sell this ship. Like I get
that you're paying me for the loss on this, but
like I exist to create these crops to sell them,

(43:54):
and that's how it exists. I don't want to do this.
Um so already like so heavily said, sizing the American
farmer and like, like the American farmer has one of
the highest suicide rates of any occupation. Yeah, yeah, it's
it's a because it's a it's a It is a
an occupation that's so born out of like literally your

(44:15):
productivity and like growing things and like, yes, this is it.
Now I can take it to market. And when you
can't do that, I mean, like yeah, because they're already
challenged because climates are more volatile, like so their yields
are varying wildly, because weather is behaving like it's never
behaved before already, Like and I mean not to to

(44:36):
the Iowa Horn, but in Iowa we had both like
the hottest and coldest day ever in the past year,
in this last calendar, last calendary in ten so far,
there's both like the coldest day it's ever been in
the hottest what's the hottest day ever? And I want
I think, God, maybe it was like a hundred but wait,

(44:59):
don't me though, because it was on Twitter like two
weeks ago, So hottest day in do that? Do that?
I am like, wow, straight from casey RG. What channels
casey RG. Oh God, I have no clue. I was
a casey c I viewer myself. Maybe different maybe different market. Okay,

(45:22):
we're gonna take a quick break and be right back
to talk actually more about Iowa. Hi, We're back now. Um,
Like you were saying, rural America has been a big
focus for politicians, Um, and just you know and the

(45:44):
government itself. Donald Trump basically famously got the support of
many farmers by being like, you know what, it's Washington's fault.
This is all fucked up, and I'm gonna you know,
whatever drained every four years people care about. Yeah right, yeah.
And then when the Iowa State Fair kicking off on Thursday,
is so many candidates were They're being like, hey, I'm

(46:06):
gonna shake every hand. I think Iowa State Fair is
always a delight to go to. It's always a wonderful
cross section of Iowa humanity, but especially during election years,
it is like, what's it like? It is? It's you're
just going to see like every candidate eat a corn
dog and then wear jeans and shake hands with people

(46:27):
wearing John hats. Everyone has to wear jeans. Yeah. Yeah,
And there some politicians I've really gotten got with like
action shots of eating corn dogs. And is there ever
like a bad move a politician could do at the
Iowa State Fair? Oh? Yeah, I mean taboo. I feel
like I feel like if you're if you said what's
up Idaho, Like if you refuse to eat any of

(46:48):
the food, I feel like that would come across poorly.
But are there moments where they're like, Hi, here's a
you know collection. I'm sure they're like, I'm sure they're like,
here's a deep fried pork fat. I don't know. You
have to like you have to really like roll up
your sleeves. I feel like every especially the male candidates,
they're all wearing jeans and like a button up with

(47:10):
the rolled up sleeves. Yeah. Well yeah, I mean I
have a lot of people have been talking about how
important uh rural states are, especially obviously for the votes,
but when you also look at how the economy is shifting.
To Elizabeth Warren, she has a plan obviously for the
rural states that involves um all kinds of like just

(47:30):
sort of revolutionizing the kind of industries that are happening
in those areas because a lot of manufacturing jobs have
left UM and you know, like you said, it's the
CAUCUSUS baby. But before we it's this. This segment isn't
about that, Okay, It's about the Iowa State Fair because
I love food. I love food that is notoriously terrible
for your body. Because to me, it's all mind over

(47:52):
matter in certain aspects. I guess if in my mind,
this corner dog will clear up my asthma. Then it
might I no proof for that, but I will continue
to believe it. Um and the Iowa stay fair. They
released a guide about their new food. Now we've we
always talk about fair food, UM, because it's just a
thing for me growing up in l A didn't have it.

(48:13):
The l A County Fair is a tragedy. What is it?
Granola and fucking lame. It's just like yvocado. Yes, I
went last time. I went, to be honest, it was like, um,
and it was just like you know, go see the
US three performed candy violence. Um, yeah, exactly, and like

(48:36):
the food was just sort of like you know, running
the milk. Iowa has a fucking proper culture, pushing the boundaries,
sometimes inhumanely, like creating things that are questionably edible. Right.
So I printed out some of the new food items
for us to look at, and I just you know,
I wanted to bring up a couple of things, maybe

(48:57):
get some of your inside Josiano Caitlin, A few things
immediately caught your eye on some of the foods. And
this is a segment called, Um, somebody please buy me
a ticket to Iowa so I can come to the fair.
How much? First of all, how much does it get
in the fair? I think I think it's like a
twenty one dollar ticket, okay, and that gets you. That
gets you. It's a massive The state fairgrounds are massive.

(49:19):
They're like an amusement park level. And they have I
mean there's outdoor music, there's the Bill Riley's talent competition,
or children all across highwell flock to ever participate in
that I cannot say with good authority. I feel like
a tap dancing twelve year old winds every year, damn Yeah.
And other rides. There are rides. You have to pay

(49:41):
for the rides. They doesn't even get you admission to
the rides. No, you have to pay actually, I mean
like you gotta come with singles strapped. Yeah. Yeah. Last
time went to the Iowa State Fair, I I like paid.
I paid two dollars to see the World's Smallest horse.
And it was just like it's just like a baby horse.
You couldn't just like peep it from like you know,

(50:03):
from a few It was like as like world's smallest
horse and world's biggest pig. And I was like and
it was like a tent. It was in a tent
like it was like you go in and you're like,
oh yeah, I just got right behold the cat born
with the head of a horse and the body of
a horse. But what is free that is as fun

(50:24):
as like a rickety old just built yesterday roller coaster
is like they're like pig competitions and like like horse competitions,
and you get to see all these like strong braided
rural Iowans who grew up with horses like come and
like do tricks and show off. Yeah yeah, and like
groom their horses. And you can walk through there. There's

(50:47):
like Varied Industries building where you can put your hands
in hot tubs and it's like all of the hot
tub salesman from all across the state bring all their
hot tub models and try to get you to buy
a hot tub at the fair. And you see like
boomers like signing papers like they're like buying hots. There's

(51:08):
also like like outdoor play sets, like all of these
like big purchase items. They all live in the Varied Industries.
The most expensive thing you could buy at the Ferry
thing God, it's a hot tub like a house. You know.
What is amazing is that there's this lot of r vs,
and it's like every model of fancy r V. So
you can walk and you can do like it's like

(51:28):
open house, so you walk through them. They have like
three bedrooms that you like click a bedroom or click
a button on a remote, and they like expand out.
So I think, like, if you're going to the State
Fair and buying an RV, like that's the most Yeah,
you're balling up for sure. Yeah, okay, great, so this
is what we need to do. Ye go there, buy
a r V and a hot tub and then you
just live there and then yeah, you guys see that

(51:51):
the tiny horse. It's just like Parks and Reck. What
was the little Yeah, yeah, I think died. Oh don't
tell me that in the show right in the show,
but not Oh yeah. I leaded a memorial and I
will say I have seen the best concert I've ever
seen that I was Fair and it was Jason Deruloh.

(52:12):
And my favorite thing about that concert is, first of all,
you can by like these thirty two ounce beers at
the I was State Fair or thirty two once Margarita
is like you can get truly trash, truly trash at
that I was State Fair. And I do recommend it
because you're in this weird no man's land society and
you can just wander around see a horse, et cetera,
and petti pig. Oh, and milk a cow. You can

(52:33):
milk a cow there. Okay. But my favorite thing about
Jason Derulo is that he, during a song before dance break,
ripped off his shirt, danced, went off stage, came back
in a different shirt, and then just immediately ripped it
off again. He just wanted to get to shirt take
off moments in the same song. And I was like,
I was like in the audience, It's like I don't

(52:55):
even feel pandered to, Like this is exactly why I
just saw the world's biggest paid take off. Your I
am a king. Yeah, okay, so let's talk about some
of the food that kings like Jason Druela n eat
there off the top. I just want to point out
a couple of things that I saw. One is called
a chicken parmesan stick. What the funk? It says Italian

(53:17):
seasoned waffle that is baked around chicken breast, covered in
marinera sprinkled with parmesan is served on a stick. I
have never heard of a waffle covered chicken breast constituting
the chicken parm Welcome to it's only six dollars. The
prices on these are very reasonable. Yeah, I mean that's
what I'm saying. It's like, there are you have to
pay more money once you're in the fair to really

(53:39):
maximize your experience, but like sauce for a chicken parm stick,
I'm in yeah, why wouldn't you be Caitlin? What what
caught your eye? The first thing I saw was the
fried avocado slices. That seems pretty, That feels so interesting
to me. That is seven seven dollars. It's more than
a chicken PARMI I'm telling you. Avocado. Avocado is a
rarity in the West. I think it's like, yeah, yeah,

(54:02):
I feel like that is every once while they do
a pandered fried fried food or stick food to like
a healthy audience. Well, this is probably the healthiest thing.
I think it's. Well, no, there's there's apple slices for
three dollars that seems just very just reasonable apple sizes
but with honey and peanut butter. Directly above that is

(54:23):
apple nachos, which is nacho chips covered with cinnamon, sugar
and topped with apple filling, caramel whipped cream and crushed
red hots. That sounds absurd, butressing that red hots is
a like a cinnamon candy, right, yeah, Oh it's just
weird to think of like a tortilla chip with apples,
but I guess you can. But see, this is why

(54:45):
we have to go beyond our boundaries. So we no
longer look at bird people as kinkier than us and
people we can embract. We got to expand our our
viewpoints to include red hots. Also, shout out a bird people,
if you are kinky, let us know on Twitter. I
want to know if she's I think that this is
a true cross section, She'll be like yeah, They'll be like, oh,
you have a bird person, clearly, not that we wouldn't

(55:07):
be having this conversation. Well, the thing about this menu
is that I think almost everything on it would activate
my sludge, which brings me to, oh my god, my sledge,
great pivot, Oh my god, before we talk about your sledge.
There's just one last thing that looks really good to
me was the Chinese sweet corn cup, a cup of
Iowa sweet corn. But it's the way it becomes Chinese

(55:30):
is because there's charge shoe on there the Chinese barbecue pork,
and I'm like, yo, this is really good. Iowa in
the building. Um, but yes, back to your sledge, Caitlin,
because um, it's funny when I was looking at this
and I was like, oh, I don't know if I
want to talk about this with Caitlin. Because you're currently

(55:51):
having you're experiencing health issues, and you are dealing with
a medical system that is wholly unable to treat you
with any kind of dignity correct, and you are basically
going to do a podcast about that. You're doing You're
doing currently releasing episodes of a podcast about this very matter.
The podcast is called Sludge an American Healthcare Story. It

(56:12):
all starts when I was at a fair, not the
Iowa State Fair, which fair? Which fair? The Renaissance Fair?
Oh my goodness, yes. And then I had an attack,
a sludge attack, and by that I mean, um, I
passed some gall stones, although I didn't know what that
that that was what was happening at the time. Went

(56:33):
to the e er. Uh. The e er staff were like, yeah,
we don't really know what's wrong, but we think you
have some sludge in your gallbladder and I said, right, like, uh,
sludge you say, okay, sludge was the medical term. That's
what the nurse told me. Yo, wow wow wow. Because

(56:54):
I'm stupid, I guess I wouldn't understand sludges, yeah, like
sluge sludge, yeah, what we call sledge. And then since
then it's I've just been on this never ending quest
to seek treatment for my sludge and have been very
much unable to do that because of my health insurance

(57:15):
and there's just so many hoops to jump through God
and referrals and approvals and authorizations and on and on.
It's on. I still have the sludge in my body.
It needs to get out of my body, but it's
still there. So listen to sludge. Yeah, please listen to sludge. Um,
I am so sorry for your sludge. Okay. Well, and

(57:36):
then here's like I can't eat anything on this menu
or anything really except for like vegetables, and just like
because your digestive system is so sensitive basically yeah, so
uh gall stones or again sludge balls. Um, I guess
the result of your body not being able to properly

(57:58):
digest or like process um fatty food. Yeah yeah, so
like your gallbladder or you're you're I'm sorry. Your sludge
pouch is where you store bile that you're like, excess
bile that your liver makes, and bile is used to
break down fatty food. I know none of this because

(58:20):
any doctors have told me or any medical professionals. I've
just had to figure this out on my own. Yeah.
I've got sledge balls in my sludge pouch because it's
like an hereditary thing. My grandmama and all had sledge
balls as well. But it needs to exit my body
through sludge surgery. Slurgery, slurggery done by a surgeon, right

(58:45):
who went to slurgical school? Yes, correct, of course. Yeah,
so anyway, I'm waiting to, you know, just have the
proper medical care. But this country hates poor people and
they only rich people to have medical care. Yeah. They
love to profit off of sick people. Yes, yes, so yeah.

(59:06):
Please check out that show so you can follow Kaitlin's
journey to de sludgeify herself. Thank you, um, Jossy, it
has been wonderful having you. Yeah, thank you so much.
Please tell people where they can find you and follow
you and support you, hear you whatever on all your Yeah, um,
you guys can find me on Twitter and Instagram at

(59:27):
Joss dot com. That's jo c E Y d O
T c O M. Spell it. Yeah, there's a lot
of I mean, you can really get creative with what
you think I mean when I said it, so I
like to spell it out right. Yeah, but that's where
you can find me. And sometimes I post okay tweets.
Yeah I think yeah, yeah, yeah, Actually I've read one
of your tweets on here before. Oh my god, yeah,

(59:50):
oh my god, I think they're they're great. That's incredibly flattering.
Oh well, you know, this is a Segrede podcast, so
let's not get to right. What about you? Where can
people find you? Follow you? Oh? I'm sorry. A tweet
that you like, Josy, Oh my god, myself. So there's
a tweet I like and it is a video of
Gordon Ramsey and it's on I think one of his

(01:00:11):
cooking shows. He's trying to a contestant about her carrot
cake and he asks her if she knows what the
main thing about carrot cake is, and you can only
guess what she answers. There's one thing a carrot cake
needs is what carrot frosting and the frosting frosting and

(01:00:34):
the most beautiful. First of all, Uh, the cake looks amazing. Yes,
the cake looks amazing. Um. I highly recommend you watch
this video because her face as she self corrects to
frosting is like, is it an incredible It's an immersive
experience of feeling exactly that way she dies inside. And

(01:00:54):
also like Gordon Ramsey, like like the tweet. The tweet says,
I wouldn't usually us agree with Gordon Ramsey, but I
was watching him judge this carrot cake, and I think
the contestant was perhaps correct. What's the main thing about
carrot cake? I would say carrots. I would say carrots.
I guess I don't know. I'm coming as a non baker,

(01:01:14):
so in my mind, yeah, literally, if it's carrot cake, carrot.
But I guess I guess the icing must be like
for everyone, like, no, that's any asshole can make the cake.
It's icy. I would say a cart because I have
no idea how you incorporate carrots into a cake, and
I'm in it. I think you just stuff them in
the cake pan when you make it. Just place one

(01:01:36):
carrot in the miok. Carrot cake is yet another thing
I can't eat anymore. Sludge are just really but carrots.
I can't eat carrot. That's carrots. That's a safe sludge move.
So as we eat carrot cake, you eat your carrot
along and then and then I put frosting on it.

(01:01:57):
Where can we find you and follow you? It's aport. Oh,
thank you so much. You can follow me on Twitter
and Instagram at Caitlin Durante and that's Caitlin with the Sea.
And then you can, like I said, listen to UH
the Sludge Podcast and follow that on Twitter at sludge podcast. UM.

(01:02:18):
Check out my other UH podcast, the Bechtel Cast, which
I a co host with UH frequent podcast guest is
that the word that we say. She's a performance artist,
Jamie loftis UM and we talked about the representation of
women in movies and that podcast. UM. I'm teaching some

(01:02:41):
online screenwriting classes coming up in October, so if you
want to learn and you live anywhere in the world,
you can do that because it's online. So you can
go to my website Caitlin toront dot com and there's
there's some information about that there. Also, I'm going to
be traveling despite my sludge. Yes, internationally international sludge might

(01:03:05):
have a sludge attack at any time during my travels.
Who knows. But I am doing comedy in Edinburgh, London,
Dublin and Paris. I um, oh, we didn't you know
Italy Florence specifically. I'm sorry? Did you just meant you

(01:03:28):
will be going to Florence Italy? I America? No, No,
not at all. I'm actually you know. I'm not going
to Florence. I'm going to Rome. Cool. Um, okay, sounds
sounds sounds. I'm excited. I've heard good things. It's like

(01:03:51):
some yea gladiators ship or something. Right that sounds very
chill to me, a great time. Heard that their infrastructure
really crumbling though, so sure, just like my body that's
full of sludge. And if you have a sludge baby abroad,
then they're technically a naturalized citizen of that country, so
citizenship or your sluge baby. The nice thing about my

(01:04:14):
travels is almost everywhere I'm going has like universal health care,
so if I have another sludge attack, I could probably
just get my problem taking care of immediately about them
being like, what's your sludge situation? Right? Like? I need
an authorization for a referral for an approval for you
to even see a doctor. There you go. I mean like,

(01:04:35):
I'm your sludge child. Every will be Italian, every good
sequel to anything is like and then they go to Europe.
So this is a really great time for sludge bider
man Far from Home, Men in black International sludge from
Far from Home, sludge e two back in the habit

(01:04:55):
or that's direct sludgy to me is very flubber like
if you can put a friendly face on your sludge. Yes,
what is um? What's a tweet that you like? Oh?
It comes from Megan am Ram At Megan am Ram
It's a she retweeted a tweet of hers from but
it is still very relevant. Um, she says, these shootings

(01:05:20):
keep happening despite our worst efforts. Yeah, she's the master
of repetition. There's that one. Today is the day Donald
Trump finally became president. And then her tbts on Instagram.
It's always I don't know how I think it's been
like four years now, the same TBT photo maybe five?
Oh wait, which one is it? It's a one. It's
in black and white and she's throwing her hands. That's

(01:05:42):
she does that every fucking week for every Thursday. Yeah,
that's incredible and just adds one week talking about performance.
Are that's good performance? Yeah? You know what? Yeah, drop
the peak. You can find me and follow me on
Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. Um. A tweet
that I like is from Reductress that says, quiz are

(01:06:02):
you an introvert? An extrovert or a pervert? Um? And yes,
that's that'll be all for me. Oh next week for
a k s um, hit me with some Beck inspired
a k s okay, I would like to do some
Beck songs. So if you have you know, new pollution,
Devil's haircut, uh loser or whatever, Deborah oh ship, that

(01:06:26):
would I could really go. I mean he's demonstrated his arrange.
Please push it. I know exactly and I will have
to overtake him at some point. Hit me with Beck
inspired a kas for next week please. I would appreciate that.
You can find the dailys E Guys at dailies I
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We have a Facebook fan page. We got a website

(01:06:46):
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Please Also Orlando Areas Night Gang Jack and A Sharine

(01:07:07):
and I will be participating in podcast Movement, you know,
the industry convention basically for podcasters August six, So we'll
be around in your city. We won't be doing any
live shows unfortunately, but maybe, um we'll figure out a
way for y'all to meet up or something. I don't
know if we have time or it might just be
lost in Epcot the whole time, because I have not
been to Disney World and that is something I will

(01:07:29):
do while I'm there. Please give me tips now. The
song we will go into the weekend into like Brave
Brave Warriors is a track from Kruang band. Okay, a
band that I we talked about a lot um. Their
vibes we're just very strong um and something I appreciate.
And the track is called Order of Operations off the

(01:07:52):
album Masta and Clo And check this song out. It's
a viber not really no lyrics on this one. Just
minimal based playing some nice reaver bumps kid, you know,
just something just to lose unto the weekend. Please love yourself,
love each other, bless y'all, have safe you know, if
we can fill with love and food. If you're in Iowa,
please uh fucking have one of those corn cups for me. Yeah.

(01:08:15):
So if you can find the stick of butter eat
fried and on a stick, yeah please, yeah, please, I'll
eat that. Yeah. Someone I can't. Yeah, someone live for
those of us who cannot celebrate what your sludge can
process your bile but processes acknowledge your bile privilege. Yeah,
thank you so much. And with that will bid you

(01:08:36):
ado uh see you next week by him Bob the

(01:09:04):
Bay to move to the past.

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