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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to fifty four,
Episode two of Dirt Day Lysai Guys Say, production of
I Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take
a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. That it is Tuesday, September,
our favorite national ants on a log day, National bald
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is beautiful day. Okay, National peanut Day. Peanut and I
mean peanuts really having a good day on this day
where they have their own day. And then also one
of the most delicious ways to consume peanut. But yeah,
ants on a logue are the are the ants raisins?
Is that how that works? Yes? Okay? Typically, and then
if you look at a peanut, it could look like
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a bald head, which is beautiful, so I mean, yeah,
Mr Peanut, they're definitely an example of a bald beautiful king.
It's also called Day of the Programmer, which interesting construction
of the name because normally it's a national Bob. This
feels like fucking day a programmer. Yeah, that sounds like
it was Britain. The night Programmer is upon us. But yeah,
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it's because it's the two fifty six, the day of
the year. Because the number of distinct to programmers Okay,
I'll people know that it's represented by an eight by
eight byte two fifty six equals to to the eighth hour.
Come on, folks, exactly eight bit. I don't know what
I'm saying. Did you guys know that I had no idea?
That is so embarrassing for you guys. Anyways? Is Jack
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O'Brien a k? Yeah, Jack Horseman courtesy and Miles Gray
and I'm thrilled to be joined by like host Mr
Miles Grad. Look at all the royal people do do
do do? Do? Do do do? Look at all the
loyal people. Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo.
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Silly and Murphy watches the hearse as it rolls down
the streets with a grin. There goes the Queen watches
the king go sit on his ass in a throne
that he hates more and more down to his core.
All the loyal people, they think the Queen's their mom. Ah.
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The loyal people swear to the royals. Shout out to
Christie Amagucci main he one right, the harsh royal a
k is, I love it. Let's keep them going. Maybe
we hit a royal flush the collaboration between you and
Chrispy Meme donut Right now, Christie Aamagucci, is it's McCartney
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Lennon ESK. I gotta say yes. Yeah, it's appropriate that
he did eleanor Rigby because it's that the likes of
this haven't been seen since they were on one for
a couple of years back in the dead, since they
got back from India. Man, I'll trick it out, you
know what I mean? That's what from that phase. Yeah, yeah, well, Miles,
we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat
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by a very talented writer, stand up comedian, and the
host of the Beck del Cap podcast taking down the
patriarchy one movie at a time. She also happens to
have a master's degree in film No Big Whoop. The
most antagrammable name in the English language, No big Whoop.
So depending on whether you've been given her name in
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a word jumble or not, you may know her as
nine Tip Dracula Latin dancer ut I, but in our
hearts she will always be Caitlin da Rant. Hello, I've
got another anagram ship I mean, and by that I
mean yes, please, okay this one. Let me set it
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up a little bit. Okay, I like him a bastory,
Yeah of course. Well okay, so you know how certain
you know movie titles. Let's say it'll be like, I
coma Frankenstein. I comma Tania. This follows this, Okay, okay,
so it's so it's I radical nut net. Now let
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me explain what a nut net is, you know, in
like bathing suits for like if you have like junk
and you have that kind of mesh mining, Yeah, that's
a nut neet. Okay, look it up. You won't find
anything because I just made this up, but I feel
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like that's what a nutnet is. So again it's I
comma radical nut net, not net. How is it radically
different from the traditional nutnet? And I hate on the outside.
It's on the outside of the that's how you do
it exactly. Yeah, it ceases to function at all, it
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does function. Yeah, right the ba you as a kid
wearing my trunks inside out and thinking it's so funny
because of that, that was so funny. Yeah, you're correct.
At that time, it's totally worth my mom saying look
at you, stupid. Now go change in the house and
Jathane stupid. Oh man, I wonder if I have to
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like start nagging my kids when I think they're actually
being funny, you know, because yeah, they are funny, Like
they say funny stuff and I just laugh at them.
But I feel like that's not going to make them
funny when they grow up. Right. Well, in Japanese, like
the word baka means stupid, but it also means like
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like when you laugh, you're like fucking stupid, you know
what I mean. Like it's this sort of same thing,
so exasperatedly my mom like and like but being like laughing,
So it's not like, hey, stupid fun get in there.
It's like stupid. It was like the more the energy
of that statement. Yeah, okay, And I think kids need
to learn some humility at an early age. Yeah, I've
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been using the bad cops and we own the city
always called the people who they're abusing dummy. They're always like,
come here, dummy, what are you doing there? Dummy? Get
over your dumb dumb And so I've been doing a
lot of that and they think that's very funny. Yeah,
that's in that parenting book dumb dumb. Yeah you're you
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are a Baltimore cop and a parent them up raising them.
I do do a bad Baltimore accent every time of
doing it, so I think they get it. And what
does that sound like? Could you demonstrate come over here, dumb, dumb? Alright,
come here, dummy. It's like a Philly accent. I feel
like the way you did it was you just kind
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of kept your mouth tighter. Just did my mouth old tighter.
Get over here, dumb, dumb, get over here. D Wow. Yeah,
I can't wait to the behind the scenes that you've
been the accident coach. I've been working on like I've
been really just like trying to embody the character, you know,
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as much as possible. So well, thank you, all right, Caitlin.
You were just traveling the world. How how is the world?
You know, it's hot and it's it's mostly just hot,
not much else to say about it. It's nice. Europe
is nice. I don't know if if anyone's ever thought
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this or said this before, but like, for example, Paris,
it's it's pretty, Barcelona it's nice, okay, But I'm the
first person to have this thought. So um, I was
just there too, and I actually I have a different thought.
When I was in Barcelona, the biggest glaring like fault
of that city, and I think just Catalonia in general,
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the lack of best buys. There's not a single best
buy there, and I'm like, where am I supposed to
get a phone charger? And I was screaming at these
people saying I need an iPhone charger and they're like
telling me to go to I don't know. It wasn't
best by, very unhelpful and if they don't have a
best buy, that should be the first thing they advertised,
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so you don't waste all three days you're they're looking
for a best buy, right, which is why I have
a new website called best Buy or Not. And you
put in a destination, it tells you straight up if
there's a best buy or not saves you a ton
of money there you go. Any other highlights though, no,
just just that they're no best buys. I guess probably
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across most of Europe. Yeah to Shane tragic, to Barcelona nice,
and Paris is pretty or do I have that reversed?
I think you have that correct. I would also say
London pleasant, okay, Damn Edinburgh cute, Amsterdam, Amsterdam charming? Wow
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from scathing takes? Is that all we're not in the
overrated yet, let's not good or any any places you
went that were just like good? Um, I love a
good place. You know, it's just like good? It is?
Do you mean that is in like good? Is a
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step down from the other adjectives I used, a step
more broad, a step more nondescriptive. Um, No, I would say, no,
places are just good, okay, good enough? Yeah? Yeah, take it.
Takes a lot to and have it good. Yeah. Alright, Well, Kaitlyn,
we're gonna get to know you a little bit better
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in a moment. First, we're gonna tell our listeners a
couple of the things we are talking about today. We're
talking about herschel Walker. We're talking about Denver's pilot program
for policing alternatives, for having an alternative too, like a
single alternative to calling an armed person to um and
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point a gun at people. It's called the STAR Program
Support Team Assisted Response, and dodgy sounds like a dystopia
where the criminals are run and everything right, exactly. No,
it's so it's just people who have psychological you know,
psychiatric training, and they respond to people who are having
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mental health crises instead of the police. And you'll never
guess what happened they they've been doing this in Denver
for a year. Stay tuned. We're gonna talk about Pumpkin Spice,
a couple a couple of culture wars that I feel
like have have been officially lost. Pumpkin Spice has officially won.
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And also the masking where where they've just given up.
They're like, dah, do whatever the funk you want. It's
all good, bro. So we'll talk about that plenty Moore.
But first, Caitlin, we like to ask our guest, what
is something from your search history? I go old in
Conto screenplay pdf to see if I could find a
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PDF of the screenplay for the movie in Conto and
I did, guessing that's what you were looking for, and
those are good. That is good search term. Thank for that,
Thank you, it was successful, well searched. What are you
doing in the script? Oh um? I wanted to take
a look to see how old the Mirabelle character is
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supposed to be when she's like grown up or like
you know, throughout most of the movie, I couldn't tell
if she was like a teenager and adult wasn't sure.
We're about to cover it on the beattel cast, So
what I wanted to Yeah, watch Out World. I mean
seriously though, that is that is a great, great episode
that I'm very excited to listen to. What did you
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find out? Where should should we tune in to to
find out? It's a big Yeah, it's too big of
a um no, she is fifteen? Oh okay, so right, yeah,
I could see that. That's definitely on the young side.
But I feel like movies always in the described age
like error on the young side. You know, Chief Brody
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from Jaws was actually seventeen years old. You didn't realize
that because because they just wanted to be like young sexy,
you know, just always go young. Because I assumed she
was older because I mean that character design, Yeah, could
be a fifteen year old, but also could be like
a year old. Wasn't really sure. And then the voice
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actor is like a full adult, so I was like,
she's like twenty one right now. It turns out she's
a teenager, right, I haven't seen it? What what? What
what does the what's the character's function to the narrative
that she's the protagonist? Ever heard of that? Because I
haven't taken your class, so I don't know, fancy script
words like that, you mean character, m why haven't you
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taken my class canto? That's in canto? So she's yeah, yeah,
she's she's I'm sorry, you're watching with your old uncle?
Which one's incanto? Oh? Got it? Got it? Got it?
So wait, so is it sort of vague if you're like,
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because she straddles like this sort of age group, You're like,
are you looking at this as an adult or a child?
That's not even important to the story. I was just
I always, you know, do my recap, and I wanted
to like accurately say like, oh, because you meet her
when she's like a child at the very beginning, and
then I was like, flash forward to her as and
I wasn't sure if I should say a teenager or adult?
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Got it? Got it? Got it? So this is all
very like, it's not super important to the story how
old she is. I just like to be as accurate
as possible. I love accuracy, exactly, and we just revealed
something about who you are. You respect accuracy. You're not
on here just throwing out concepts exactly. She's a She's like, yeah,
flash forward to her in an older vibe, But I
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do do that sometimes, because sometimes is not the right exactly.
You can think of a good like how old that
character is supposed to be? Mystery and I'm coming up blank.
But honestly, let us know, U Paddington. No one understands
how old Paddington is or is supposed to be except
for you. Nobody else gets it. He's ageless times fifteen
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fifteen times actors pretended not to be their age and
TV and movies but fooled absolutely nobody. I guess that's yeah.
What is something you think is overrated? I think that
sour dough bread is overrated? Damn go on, wow, it's
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I think we just have to go to go to
a break right now. I don't know. I don't know
how to react. I need to get they're my thoughts.
Let me make to sour and it's usually it's usually
too hard of a bread. So if I'm eating I
like a sandwich on a croissant, like a soft or
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like a Brioche croissant, that that's just that's just like
hardened butter, like foam form, like layers. But I do
like a crois sangwich for sure. They're delicious. Yeah, I
don't like to bite into a sandwich and feel as
though the jagged edges are cutting my mouth, which is
what happens every time I eat a sour dough bread,
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sandwich or like a baguette, you know. Baggett is also
to how they do that in France. Every is everybody's
mouth just super like like because I remember you like anytime, yeah,
crusty bread, I'm like and I'm like the next day,
I'm like, what's wrong with the top of my mouth?
And I'm like it was the crust that Absolutely. I
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love a crusty bread. I love a crusty bread with
the soft inside. I think my my issue with sour
dough is usually when they also toast it, Like if
if they're using Sara dough as a sandwich bread, and
then they toast the sour dough, it's like the the
sour dough is. I love the consistency of like a
regular sour dough where it's like real crusty heart outside
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and then it's like soft inside. Yeah, my ideal consistency
for bread. But when they when they toast it on
top of it already having the crusty outside, it's like, yeah,
you could you could, you know, strip paint with that
ship like that to the outside. Yeah, here have your
sandwich between these two bread mattresses that you can get through. Wait,
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so for you those the flavor sounds like we're saying, Okay,
the crust is too much and the sours do sour precisely. Yeah.
I love the I love the fetid nature of a
sour dough. This is something so tantalizing about the the
sourness of it. But I think that just inspires me
to use more butter. And that's I'm like, I love
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this ship because you put enough butter on it and
it's barely like regular press. The thing I love about
sour dough is how well the sour pairs with butter,
A nice salty butter. Yeah, that really goes well together.
Look at us ideal ideal sandwich bread, I would say, honestly,
I mean again, I love a croissant as a as
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a as a. I love the catalyst for Sandwiches's just
making any sense, but um or mm hmmm, I think yeah,
it's it's a it's a tricky one. I'll say, a
croissant mhmm. Okay, I love that's just so decadent, Like
like if I eat a cross sandwich that's like it's
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intentional to be like, yeah, it's a special day, one
step above putting it on a Crispy Creme doughnut. Yeah. Jack.
When we did that live show in Chicago. After the
live show, I got Portillos and late at night and
I had a beef and cheddar on a fucking croissant.
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Because the home girl, Ellie McIlvaine, Chicago native, was like,
if you go you want to disrespect yourself, get that
on the crissan and I was like, say less, unbelievable combo. Uh.
It turned the dresser like see through because it was
already a notoriously wet sandwich with the like most saturated
bread pre saturated bread possible. I love it, love a
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wet sandwich of anyway. Shout out Chris Sang, which is
mm hmmm, what is what something you think is underrated?
I think the movie Malignant underrated? Malignant? I haven't okay.
So it's a James Juan horror movie from last year,
James One King of the World. M there I said it,
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and Titanic, yes, exactly Titanic quote. You might know him
from past word. He made a movie called malignant it is,
it is cuckoo bananas. If you like a horror movie
that just doesn't really feel like obeying the laws of
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gravity physics of the films like World. I'm also speaking metaphorically.
Gravity doesn't really have much to do with the movie,
but it's not tethered to our normal and not bound
to you thought that you you understood logic, Well, forget
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what you know about that, and then watch Maligna. Give
me something, give me more than that, now, Like, what's
something that make me laugh? Wowant just just go uctually
open our what I stand up? Feel like I'm at
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one of my dad's family reunions, like a laugh and
they've never made me laugh in my entire life. What's up?
What's up? Go ahead, let let me see it? You
know an example, like because I am intrigued now when
you say it's it's it's so amazing because it's not
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tethered to reality, I'm like, well, and that's not the
conceit of the film. I'm also worried now that I'm
overselling it because I haven't seen the movie since last year,
and it's so it's not very fresh in my brain.
But another movie that Jamie and I are about to
cover on the Bectel cast. So it's like it's top
of the dome right now. I'm very excited to rewatch.
It's just totally Also, it's not just like straight horror.
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There's there's it's goofy horror. Will say, that's kind of
my favorite like sub genre. You know, I think I
don't like straight I don't like like, hey, let me
funk you up. You cast your eyes upon this feature
I like. I like when it's a little goofy actually,
so then you're gonna love Maligan. James One is a
filmmaker behind Furious the Yeah, Furious seven, the Conjuring, like
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a lot of those movies, like all the most successful
horror movies, Insidious, Insidious, as well as Aquaman. Yeah, what
did he make Insidious? Yeah? So yeah, he made Insidious
and Insidious Chapter two, which is what I thought you
were recommending, because insidious and malignant both occupied the same
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spot in my brain because they're both words that you know,
are tied to a very bad performance review. You know,
it's like, oh no, this has gone very badly. If
I get those either of those words, imagine yeah, doing
so badly at your job report comes back and it says, yeah,
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Jack's performance was malignant, malignant member of the team that yeah,
but yeah he this is this is what he does
and it sounds like he really took it to the
next level on this one. Have you have you heard
of Barbarian? Yes? And I'm seeing it tomorrow night. Are
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you okay? Because that is the movie that I've gotten
similar recommendations on that are also people being like, don't
read anything about it, just go and it's like fun
but it's not what you expect, and like the unexpectedness
is what is fun about it. And it's made by
one of the whitest kids, you know, which I love
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when a comedy creator it gets into the horror game
and is good at it. But yeah, that's getten a
lot of buzz. Yeah, it is wild. I just did
the the or the description of it. I'm like, oh,
this plus the title. It's about someone who like gets
to an air BnB and someone else is already there
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and then it's like, oh, what harm could it do
to hang out here tonight? All right? Let me know
if it's goofy. It is sponsored by Airbnb, which is
the unexpected thing. It ends up Airbnb just makes it
like solves everything and it's like really wonderful story. Yeah right,
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and then you get a brain implant and come out
and be like you gotta go see this. The D
s X mocking A moment is like as like the
main characters like about to be killed. They open the
app and they contact the customer surface chat like I
think someone was already booked here, and they're like, what,
we'll get them out right now, team, right now, you
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called Airbnb? All right, I'm out, sorry about that then? Yeah, alright, cool.
Well I do love getting a good movie recommendation from Caitlin.
We have achieved that. I believe it. It's time to
take a break and move on to some news, so
we will be right back, and we're back and herschel
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Walker has come up from time to time on this
show mainly for being like making some of the wildest
statements untethered if you will, from reality, from our policy
in general, how logic works. I mean, would you say
he's malignant then sort of a malignant figure and his
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intentions may be insidious? Yes, wow, okay, oh well his
polls are no longer underwater like Aquaman because he is
now leading Rafael Warnock, or he's slowly been gaining on
Warnock and is now in the lead against Rafael Warnock,
which has everyone like, oh, ship, that's fucking So he's
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so clearly a terrible candidate who knows nothing of even
what the funck trees are, or like we've talked about
how he said he was an FB, how he worked
with the FBI, he did not, and like insisted on
all this ship that like, remember the other time he
was going to kill a guy, but then he played
in his truck and then it was like, dear God,
don't make me take this man's life. And then he didn't,
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and that's why he should be your next senator. But
he was like, I was going to kill him for
the c I A. Right, wasn't that part of it?
He was working with you know, he was working with
the FBI, who you don't know, and he was following him,
and then oh he was gonna he said, I don't know,
I don't know what I'm gonna do. And then I
saw that he had he was a god fearing man
because his truck had a Jesus slogan sticker and that's
when he that was his sign from God to how
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the FBI works. Are they they're like going to take
somebody out. But then they're just like, you know what,
I figured he's a good guy based on how sloppy
they are. I wouldn't doubt it exactly. But you know,
like if they're like, oh, okay, so he turned out
he was a good guy, they're like, yeah, I couldn't
do the bus a good ship. I don't think he's
gonna caused too many problems for us, Timothy, let him go.
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He could use his buddy, could use a couple of
flights out of here though. Lucky though, just let's not
talk about that. But yeah, so right now, if you
look sort of like at the history of the seat, right,
Kelly Leffler narrowly lost to Raffael Rafael warnock In and
it was narrow like but you know, all you need
is plus one and you are the winner. And the
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GOP was furious that they lost this race because they
felt this was a sure thing and Georgia had been,
you know, to that point of really reliable red state.
And you know a lot of people speculate, was it
Trump's voter fraud, cries of voter fraud that suppressed the
vote or you know, or maybe it was it the
fact that countless hours were spent by volunteers in campaign
staff to get as many people to vote in that
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special election. Who knows. But right now Walker has the
lead and it's very narrow, it's like within the margin
of air. But when you look at how the polls
break down, you can see that he's clearly a more
appealing option for black men in Georgia than Kelly Leffler was.
He's outperforming her in that demographic, like by seven points.
I'm sorry, do you mean a fast and the furious seven?
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Thank you, thank you so much, thank you so much,
because you know, he's I think his signal to other
black men is a we're family, and that was the
way he was trying to like we're family, like a
character in thank and But yeah, so right now that
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seems to be like the one area where he's really
outperforming Kelly Leffler. And I think, you know from the
beginning where like this was like a cynical candidate where
it felt like Trump's big brain was like, get another
black man to run against that black man, and that
will be the strategy. And he is my pick even
though he's a compulsive liar and it could work, but
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we just don't know. But when you look at like
the other demographic young people and seniors are you know,
like their their their favorite Warnock, that's not you know,
an issue women are also breaking for Warnock. It's the
like forty two sixty six demo that like herschel Walker
(28:17):
is just crushing in right now. Uh, And that's this
kind of what the stakes are. Also happens to be
the demographic that would be familiar with him from his
playing career, absolutely in the state and be like, I
know that brand, You've got my attention, and I don't know, Like,
when you look at it, it's easy to think like, well,
he should be losing on the heels of all the
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things he says. But again, when one party's full on, like, hey,
we gotta get all our people in if we're gonna
never lose an election again, it starts to make a
little bit of sense. But I just want to point
out a couple really fantastic Walker isms that happened over
the last week. The first one whereas him talking about
how Raphael war Knock is so ex dream because he
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wants white people to feel bad. You know, it's like
the typical thing that they do on like what like
when they're writing against democrats, like he's radical and he's
you know, he's he's a socialist. But this is him
saying making up a total life that the quote that
he's saying warnock set he never said that, and he
just then goes on to make up cool stuff about
like the Constitution. Was my opponent, Senator Raphael One. I
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remember hearing him say, America, I need to apologize for
it whiteness. And I'm like, that's not in a bi
vibert because if you really look at the situation, I'll
find him Father's don't where and to apologize for his whiteness,
because if you read the Constitution, it talks about every
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man and treated fair. But what we've done we put
the wrong person at the table to do the negotiation
for you. I don't know what that means. Interesting, Yeah,
he for first of all, he never said time. But
I think because people who are willingly like acknowledging historic
like history and uh, you know, hegemony or like yeah,
(30:10):
you know that there's clearly black people have been a
disadvantage white people and slave black people. I don't know,
like maybe those things have been said, so then he's
like all he's got they got to apologize for that
or you know, that's how they make the whole acknowledging
history conversation about, like they want you to apologize for
doing nothing. M hmm, you didn't do anything. Yeah, and
(30:30):
I'm sure that wouldn't be in a Bible you ever read,
because it never mind, the Bible didn't have takes on
ship that was going on. But fine, and then the
Constitution does not say that it's about treating everyone fairly.
Come on, now, come on, now that economy by slavers,
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come on, man. But yeah, that seems to be working,
as he says, he said, his his whole advance. It
just been that he gets out there and he talks
to people and in a way, maybe because his way
of speaking is so low fi for lack of a
better term, it's they're like, yep, uh huh. I know
these like word salad buzzwords that I hear on the
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news all the time. And he's saying that to me
in a like a even tone. So I like them, Like,
has there been a Democrat, a Democratic candidate who just
has realized that like if you just tell nothing but lies,
the media like kind of gives up on fact checking
you and everybody just like kind of goes with it.
Joe Biden, right, Yeah, I guess it just feels it
(31:40):
feels different, Like I don't know, maybe maybe it just
feels different because we we want to Joe and to
win the against Trump, but that is I don't know.
I mean, I think every politician it's just all versions
of it, right, Like they'll just say fucking Republicans say
whatever whenever Democrats say they lie when when it's when
(32:01):
it's necessary to get people to support them, right, they
like make promises they know they'll never deliver on. Yeah,
yeah that's fair. Yeah, So it's uh, who knows anyway,
I do also want The nine eleven anniversary was on
Sunday as well, and herschel Walker also had some cool
stuff to say about nine eleven. But it also sounds
(32:21):
like he's giving a halftime talk, but I don't know.
This is herschel Walker's take on you know what happened
on nine eleven on Fox News with Maria Barter Ramo
or is that who that is? And it's her birthday?
To remember her birthdays and never forget. I never forget. Well,
you know, you gotta pay tribute to the nine eleven victims. Uh,
(32:42):
you know. But also you saw America come together. You
saw America come together because this country was you know,
it was on the war with a country that didn't
believe in US. Mhm m hm hm. They didn't believe
in US. Can you believe that, guys, we don't believe
in US. South America was at war with a country
(33:04):
that didn't believe in US before nine eleven. No, we
were not at war. We were on on the war,
on the war against the country that didn't believe in US.
Right now we have leaders in Washington like Joe Biden
doing venomous speeches that doesn't believe in America people. He tried,
Okay anyway, so thanks, But that's I mean, it is
(33:27):
an interesting angle that the problem or nine eleven was
caused by a country that didn't believe in America. Like
it's it's truly it's truly an eighties movie, like eighties
movie for children understanding of the world that like you
just gotta believe in yourself, right or that like your
(33:49):
oppressive foreign policy around the world globe didn't radicalize people
into not believing you that believing in this country. It's
just it's a mainstream media understanding. But it even confuses
more barter Romo. She's like, what the fuck? Alright, thank you?
I don't know it maybe is genius because it's so
(34:11):
off base, like you truly don't know where to begin,
Like it's beyond dish gallop ship. You're like, I asked
you for a question, and you like you threw like
a weird fart cloud at me. You know that. I
think it was a Miss America contestant giving like an
absolute nonsense. That's what that sounds like. The Asian countries, Yes, yeah,
(34:33):
do we have that? Because that does That is kind
of the perfect corollary that she just is using words
that are all words that she just like five times,
and that's like words you would transitions and stuff that
you would have studied, but without any content, without anything.
(34:55):
The Miss USA two thousand seven contestant from South Carolina
may have given politicians a blueprint for how to work
salad talk. Yeah, remember this. Recent polls have shown a
fifth of Americans can't locate the US on a world map.
Why do you think this is? I personally believe that
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US Americans are unable to do so because Salma, people
out there in our nation don't have bounced. And I
believe that our education like such as a South Africa
and Iraq everywhere like such US, and I believe that
they should our education over here in the U S
(35:39):
should help the US, or should help South Africa, and
should help dirac in the Asian countries, so we will
be able to build up our future. All right, all right,
thanks so much, Thanks so much. It's always better than
I've remembered it. It's oh, man, looking at Iras and
(35:59):
such jazz connective just to be like, I gotta throw us,
so I gotta get us such as in there. Man,
you went over these buzz words with the coach. I mean,
her coach definitely gave her some delay tactics and but
assuming that eventually there would be something coherent. Did the
coach did not foresee South Africa coming through and just
(36:23):
throwing her train of thought completely off And who knows
where that came from. I mean, look, and I believe
Donald Trump was the person putting on ship like Miss
t in USA, so he may have been there taking notes.
He's like she's brilliant. She fucking just crushed that answer.
And what anyway, So yeah, that's I mean, it shouldn't be,
(36:47):
you know, too much of a surprise that the Republicans
are motivated to vote for somebody who has no business
being near office. Um. But that's just kind of the
state of things right now. Yeah, all right, well, good
to know. And and again the news hook here is
that he is in the lead. Now, Yeah, he's leading
by three two to three points depending on where you look.
(37:09):
M hm. And you know, again, like all those things,
that's within the margin of air. But what does that
mean when you have voter suppression and weird pulling all
over the place. Just but it's it's tight. It's tight.
Too fast, too furious. I was trying to figure out, Yeah,
too fast, too very can't drift, drift anyways, let's take
(37:40):
a quick break. We'll come back and talk about some
better news maybe, and we're back. And so we talked
(38:01):
a number of times about the need for some policing
alternative in the United States. We've talked about it, you know,
stopped talking about it two years ago, and we've talked
about it with recently when Joe Biden brought up the
very good point where he was like, we were allowing
(38:21):
them to be sociologists psychologists, and then went on to say,
and that's why we need to We don't need to
defund the police. We need to fund the police. So
like so somehow he took that, like, we our policy
that up to this point has made it so that
the police are who you call we need a psychologist
(38:44):
or a sociologist. I'm not sure if I've ever needed
a sociologist on on demand, but you know, speak for yourself.
Just he was just free associating, and um, he was like,
so that's why we need to just absolutely fund the
ship out of the police, like we have been to
this point. So we we talked before about how Eugene,
Oregon for a while had had a policy of you know,
(39:08):
sending an alternative when somebody was calling the police because
someone was having a mental health crisis or having a
bad drug experience, rather than sending someone with guns to
you know, heighten the situation to just buy the best
cop in the world. If they bring gun and are
(39:29):
pointing a gun at people, they're going to scare the
ship out of the person having a bad drug experience.
So like just in general, it's it's a bad policy
to be the default everywhere except Eugene, Oregon. So in Denver, Colorado,
decided to try out a similar approach on a larger
scale with something they're calling STAR, which stands for Support
(39:52):
Team Assisted Response, And when you call nine one one
in it is nine eleven got not eleven on the drink.
When you call nine one one, your call will be
routed either to the police or two STAR, who send
(40:13):
unarmed people with psychiatric training. It's not at random, by
the way, the you know, nine one one dispatcher is like, oh,
this sounds like somebody who is not a danger to
other people and just might themselves need help in any
other city that that call is getting routed directly to
the police either way. Denver is like, here's a wild idea.
(40:37):
What if because that person doesn't need police assistance, what
what if we sent what if we created a team
that wasn't armed and that was there to help them.
And so they started this. In the neighborhoods where they
tried it saw much less low level crime, and the
cost of each of the calls was less than one
(40:59):
fourth of what a coss to just like throw the
police at everything, which every one of those dollars then
goes towards community programs that have actually been shown to
reduce crime and improve inequality. Right, but is it safer? Yes? Yeah? Yeah?
Did you? Yeah? Sorry, I just drastically drastically diminished crime.
(41:22):
I default to. My first thing is just to ask
without even hearing anything, He's just going yeah, but isn't
making less safer? So does that make me feel safer?
I want someone here with a gun yesterday, sir? Is
how is the went out? Send the armed routes? Please?
(41:43):
But yeah, I mean so the low level crimes are
the crimes that they are most likely to interact with,
and they are doing a better job of keeping those
sorts of the simplest solutions. It's yeah, it's it's just
so straightforward that I think probably most people assume it's
(42:07):
been tried and failed or something like it. It doesn't
really makes sense. Could you imagine people like, wait, we
never tried any of this other stuff? Like well, I
don't like I think that we right? Oh shit, but
I mean, like even Joe Biden, he like almost it's
(42:31):
like a I mean, obviously, no one's gonna like latch
onto what he said, like we would. But I'm like,
that's an ad for why you shouldn't be president when
you're like, these guys are all overworked. They're expected to
be nurses, cooks, landlords, sociologists, uh e, sports pros, babysitters.
I mean, we can't do. The solution for this is
it to take less ship off their plate. It's to
(42:54):
pay them more money and give them more bang bangs. Yeah,
like what the fun? You just at it out loud.
You're like, these guys got too much going on then there,
then you shouldn't say, well, then they need to be
more specialized if they're around Yeah, yeah, I mean if
you want, if you wanna, if you need an archaeologist,
you want you want them to have a whip and
(43:15):
a fedora hat to come when they come on the scene.
So we need to buy whip some fedora hats for
all these people. Jills looking at the Secret Service, just like,
what did I say about Indiana Jones tapes before speeches?
He gets some mixed up, oh man. Famously, all archaeologists
are not only you know, excavating and usually stealing artifacts
(43:37):
from indigenous people, but they're also punching people sang and
following through like three steps. That's how he always punches.
He punches and then falls forward every It's like, yeah,
why are you so bad at punching? You punch all
the time. You punch so much more than anybody. Yeah,
take a class if you Yeah. Yeah was that because
(44:00):
Indiana They didn't want to make it seem like he's
more of a professor. Right, it's not here brawling all
the time. So if he does, he has to throw
like a wild punch that you know, well now it's
it's Harrison Ford across across his films when he is
actually hero President, he also when he gets in a
fistfight will punch, fall forward multiple stay. You're right, he
(44:22):
is actually more to think about it, he is the
most like goofy dude caught up in the wildest ship
all the time, like in Clear and President Danger, like
when they get fucking ambushed, like in that street and
they're like hitting RPGs on those suburbans and he's like
it's like a jacket. I remember there's like a scene
he's running and he's like holding his sleeve weird, and
it always plugged me as a kid I'm like, bro,
(44:44):
your jackets a mess, like going in there that he
was smoking Ryan, Yeah, that like he's so fascinating me
because he it doesn't it just doesn't make sense to
me why he works as well as he does. And
yet like I love watching him on camera and yeah,
(45:05):
he's an action hero despite the fact that he mainly
comes off as like a professor who doesn't know how
to iron his clothes, like he's just and yeah, we
just we were late. Who is the worst? Is he
the worst action actor? I would say, I would I'll
(45:25):
give that to Nicholas Cage. I mean, like, okay, let
me let me phrase that differently, like if you had
to call a guy I don't know, Like I feel
like Harrison Ford an action film fills me with the
least amount of confidence. I know he gets through it
in the films, but I'm my god, he's so slippery.
Up there, you find out that the Academy Awards has
(45:48):
been taken over by terrorists and one actor is missing
from the thing, and like you you realize, oh, he's
loose in the building causing havoc. Who is the one
I will? I would go the rock or something like
I was gonna say I would call the Rock or
Gerard Butler. Yeah, I think it's a good track record
(46:09):
in his films and looks coordinated. I feel like the
Rock believes he has superpowers, like legit and like believe
you know, that'll get him real early in a real situation.
I feel like he's like his character and the Guy
or the other guys where he's gonna like jump off
the building and land three feet sure of the dumpster
(46:30):
in a pile of goo. No, I see what you're saying, Miles.
I think that. Yeah, I wouldn't call upon Harrison Ford.
He's not good at like hand to hand combat. He's
like he but also, but I think even worse is
anytime Nicholas Cage is in an action movie, which is
a lot frequent. Frequently, Jackie cham might be the best guest,
(46:51):
the best first first, Oh, yeah, because he can actually
kick ass. He'd probably charmed the pants off of the
off of terrorists. Yeah, so animated, you know, yeah, yeah,
just a blast all around. All right, Jackie, we're back,
all right, Well, let's talk. Let's talk pumpkin spice and
just pumpkin spice season. You know, football started this past
(47:14):
weekend I feel like I associate that with pumpkin spice,
and traditionally there has been a backlash, at least on
this podcast. Our writer Jam McNabb, well, you know, write
a story that's like God, everything's pumpkin spice now, dang
it and creeping up Earlier and earlier, I remember that
(47:35):
was like the thing we're dealing with the last two years,
or like, wow, we're really going forward in August, Yeah,
the opening day of the baseball season means pumpkin spice
is like where we're heading, right. But anyways, Jam is
pointing out that this appears to be one of those
trends and a cultural critic compared it to uggs, which
(47:58):
I think is actually kind of smart. It's one of
those trends that when it first hit, we were like, Okay,
this is a passing fat. This is like dumb, and
nobody's going to be into this like we're and like
we tried to put it into the into that context
of like a I love the twenty teens or whatever,
(48:18):
like passing cultural fat. Remember remember pumpkin spice lattes, except
they just like year after year never went away and
now like nobody's even complaining about them. It's just a
part of the human condition at this point, they complain
if there wasn't Yeah. Yeah, and ugs. Similarly, I remember
(48:40):
when we were like remember uggs, and then a couple
of years later everyone was like, yeah, no, we all
just wear ugs now, man, Like that's people still wear ugs.
I never seen people in ugs anymore. I've seen a
lot of ugs. I've seen. Yeah, the uggs are and
they and they came back with a vengeance too. I remember,
like in high school uggs like we're coming out in
high school for me, and they were like too expensive,
(49:03):
so they kind of became like a class thing in
my high school or like the rich kids, like the
rich girls had the uggs. And then everyone was like
a lot of people are like Jesus, they look so
you just look like you gave up, especially when they're
all like worn down. And then it passed and then
I noticed my kid, my friends kids started wearing uggs too,
and I was like, oh, ship, they're they're never going away.
(49:25):
They're never going away. Um. But yeah, with pumpkins, I don't,
I don't know, it's become one. I think like uggs,
pumpkin spice is one of those things I've lived with,
but they just it just doesn't resonate with me, so
I forget that it's a thing. Yeah, nor does it
bother you, right, Like it's funny when you see how
much like Starbucks insists that, hey, it's time, like you
(49:45):
know from their just gross consumer culture standpoint where they're like,
we gotta sell this ship and guess what it's time
to buy it now, time you horn get ready for
it to slap your bodies, creeps, disgusting pumpkin sum dum dumb.
Here you dump dumb spice for you, dum dum dummy.
(50:08):
That's what it feels like. And I think that's why
I don't. I don't sunk with it because I'm not
letting Starbucks treat me like a dumb dump Yeah. I
just get mad when they try to pare pumpkin spice
flavor with something that is a disgusting combination. They're like, oh,
pump because something's work like a pumpkin spice muffin, fine
pumpkin spice sour dough bread though not could but exactly, yeah,
(50:38):
let's go Brandon alright, But they're putting pumpkin spice and
things that they should not be putting pumpkin spice in
and that that's what I take issue with. Yeah, you
just threw your chair across the room. The listeners might
not have heard that flipped a table. It's interesting. One
of the things that is new this year is You're
(50:58):
By is a plant based drink company, and they're introducing
their first pumpkin spice energy drink just in time for fall.
And so we have the image from the from I'm
guessing this is like a print at or still from
a video, and and they have the energy drink can
(51:20):
emerging from sort of a word cloud of like or
not word cloud, but like images that uh, collage of things.
So you got your cinnamon, you got your pumpkin, you've
got your fall leaves situation. And then one of them
is just a Starbucks cup like that is on a side,
(51:42):
tipped over and spilling in a way that looks weird.
But like, I guess that's that's correct. That isn't That
is one that is one of the things we associated with.
Is is it something where you're like, yo, my I
need to turn my energy drinks up with pumpkin spice.
That is not I can't, but I get the baked goods,
(52:06):
little desserts, but like an energy No, like what I'm saying,
we don't. They're going to start putting like pumpkin spice
in like hard salts or flavors, and I'm going to
be furious. You know that should already exists because there's
like a pumpkin spice beer and like we already have that.
That well, I do kind of like a pumpkin spice
(52:26):
beer shipyard from I think, um, I like that, But
if I see a pumpkin spice white cloth, I am
gonna pitch a fit. M You're gonna tell that woman
to take her Belliage Embre hair do and eugg boots
and get in her car and drive straight back to
(52:48):
her church group exactly. But yeah, I don't think anyone says,
you know, I need my energy drink to feel like
cozy like that the rainstorming session in there, they're like,
you know, we should do unless it's again just to
kind of one of those like marketing things where they're like,
let's just funk with people and say you want to
(53:08):
your bo mate based pumpkin spice energy. I mean, your
ba mate is like kind of like it's a very
distinct and overwhelming flavor, So I can I can see
if you are going for your mate like energy drink,
then maybe you you're just looking to mask that ship
like in the same way that it works with coffee.
(53:31):
Martha Stewart made headlines for claiming the pumpkin spice trend
was for basic bitches only. That's a quote. Who said
that Martha Steward start the d block Stewart and now
she's promoting a pumpkin spice coffee. Oh my motherfucker, Martha,
(53:53):
what are the other inmates in the yard gonna think
of you? They've also added it to the Merriam Whips
Webster Dictionary, along with mcgiver as a verb. Just Y,
pumpkin spice was at pumpkin spices a blend of cinnamon, nutmeg, ginger, clothes,
and all spice commonly used in pumpkin pie. That noun
is now mcgiver has a much better case to be
(54:17):
in the fucking Dictionary as its own thing than pumpkin
spice because actually needs a definition. But pumpkin spice is
already pretty self explicing. Yeah yeah, well wait, what is that?
Is that some kind of computing algorithm pumpkin spice on
the day of the programmer. Yes day, Yeah, what the fuck?
(54:39):
So cool? Mcgiver though, shout out to very cool thing
as I'm gonna try and mcgiver myself a little pumpkin
spice lat day over here, make a little nutmeg with
a little cinema. Break it up, dummy, bring it home
to a James One reference. Yeah, I don't know. I
I still will fun with a pumpkin spy lat It's
(55:00):
like a it's a treat, you know, I'll have. I'll
have one or two a year, and I'll enjoy them
quite a minute. I only have one thing that I've
yearned for seasonally, and that's the Winter Dream Latte t
latte from Coffee Bean because it tastes it tastes like
a Christmas store plush. Yeah. I love that ship, I'm
(55:23):
telling you. When it comes around, it's yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,
that's it. That's the only time I'm like, oh, ship,
it's that time of year, and again, like you, I
miss it pretty much every fucking year, and then like
I forgot about it again. But that is the one thing,
and you know how I knew it was over for
all of us and pumpkin spice was winning. Is that
(55:45):
last year Starbucks started like trimming down the flavored latte
options that they had at like, I think one of
one of them was gone last year. I think it
might have been gingerbread, or it might have been Oh,
there can only be one Highlander. Christmas tree water, I forget,
I forget what the flavor was, But Christmas Christmas tree
(56:07):
stand water is no longer a lottape flavor that ship
man whatever. Christmas tree. Yeah you know that water like
on on January seventh, you have left it up a
little too long. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and pieces of Scotch
tape in there. Dead. It's insidious dead animals, truly insidious
(56:30):
malignant to perhaps it might be. And I apologize for that.
Oh man, you don't want to get that aqua on you, man,
Oh yeah, I gotta go. Sorry. Caitlin, pleasure as always
having you. Where can people find you? Follow you all
that good stuff? You can follow me on Twitter and
(56:50):
Instagram at Caitlin Durante and give a little listen to
the Bechtel Cast. I foreshadowed some episodes We've Got in Conto,
We've Got Um and Malignant on the Matreon so it's
behind the sorry the Patreon, but if you know, you know, yeah,
so it's behind the paywall, but you know, get over
(57:10):
there and yeah that's that's me. Yeah, yeah, fantastic. That
is there a tweet? Fantastic? Is there a tweet you've
been joining or some other workup social media? Yes, it
is from my dear friend and co host Jamie Loftus tweeted,
beauty businesses are like, Wow, you are so beautiful, but
(57:33):
unfortunately you look like ship and need to give me
two at this exact second. It is true, you always
got to start off. I remember all this and like
you have fantastic like like your cheekbones and stuff like that,
and that's great, but it's like it's just so dry everywhere,
like you're like, whoa fucking just crashed the car right
(57:56):
right after that compliment before. Really you look like ship.
You have natural beauty inside that is waiting to come out,
but right now you look like shit. Sorry, Miles, where
can people find you? Follow you with a tweet you've
been enjoying? Oh man, you can find me on Twitter
and Instagram at Miles and great just and I think
(58:17):
Jamie's use of looks like shit is I think one
of the most one of her most potent rhetorical devices
that she has. It's a big staple in dance. Santa
looks like it and can't even can't even read yeah,
but like it hits. So there's a way the timing
of saying someone looks like shit. It's like, I don't
(58:38):
think there's a more efficient way to use that, And
I think that it's like the hard case sounds that
there's two of them. That's always like a good thing.
Ship is like a very just punchy word. Yeah, it's
it's perfect. You look like shit. You know you're not
You're not sloppy, You're not a fucking you look like ship. Oh.
(59:00):
I actually want people to say that to me more
because it's it's music to my ears. Yeah. No, honestly,
that's why I was like, I want to be dancing
because I look like shit. I always think it's so
funny when it says Dan who looks like ship and
I can't even read? All right, let's move on to
Oh look, where else can you find this? Miles and
Jack got mad boost these obviously our NBA podcast and
if you like, stop by one of the Twitter streams
(59:24):
for four twenty Day Fiance if you like that, or
just listen to the podcast with Sophia, Alexandra and I.
Some tweets that I like. First one is from Ashley Winter,
m d urologist at Ashley G. Winter tweeted urine is
not sterile. Stop saying that people, it's not sterile, which
I don't know what that's yours or what as a
(59:48):
urologist put them over the edge for that tweet to
be like, I can't if I got to hear about
this peb and I thought it was I thought it
was sterile, but not clean, like it's it's something like
it doesn't have active live bacteria in it, but it's
like not good for you. It's like full of all
the toxins that you're using. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like
(01:00:10):
a technicality that it got bioed. But wow, it's not
even sterile. I mean now now I can't believe anything
the fact that it has tells me how to drink
your peepee, how to drink like a straw. Okay, let's
see what else? Did I like? What else? Who else?
What else? Oh? Then this one from Mike Salana at
(01:00:33):
m I C. S O L N. S O. L
A n A tweeted, My boyfriend is on a plane
in Miami right now and a bulldog in the road
next to him just had diarrhea. Everyone freaked out. The
dog owner began sobbing, and the dog escaped. Now covered
in pooh, it is running around the plane. People are
lifting up their legs and screaming. That is my fucking
(01:00:55):
nightmare flying with pets and I can happen. Man, give huh,
what do you it's kind of your dog poop poot
or someone else dog, my dog, my dog, He's gonna
boat us out. It's yeah, I think you told this
one and I was remember like it has a sad story.
It has said ending. My dog was actually sick for season.
(01:01:16):
It didn't last much longer, but it did escape from
the bag we were carrying it in, run up to
first class and take a wild, loud diarrhea ship in
first class, and honestly to us like we had trained it,
like we had trained her to do that. More people
should be shooting in the aisles of the first Yeah,
(01:01:40):
like the rich what kind of like? Yeah, anti capitalist
activists at least they're activist dog in here. Yeah, they
threatened to like turn the plane around on us. It's
very upsetting. Oh my god, I can that's my worst
because I'm also like when I've been in planes where
like a dog is taking a ship and you're like, dude,
(01:02:01):
the place are like, what the fuck your dogs taking
a ship in here? Like what I didn't I'm not overpaying.
But then also smell dog shit. So when I had
my dog, damn, I was a fucking nervous rap. I
was like, we don't do anything ship because it's it
is such a nightmare because you are taking them to
a place that is very like nervous, like nervous energy
(01:02:24):
inducing and so like. And you the last time they
pooped was like an hour and a half before you
even get on the plane, because there's not really great
places from the poop inside the terminal. It's it's a lot. Man.
You gotta use my method. Don't give them food or
water for the three days prior to the right like
that really, and they'll be so and their and their
(01:02:47):
energy levels naturally declines through some of the calories. It
works for everybody, damn. All right. You can find me
on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien uh tweet. I've been
enjoying hands them be charming, tweeted NFL trainer whispering into
the ear of injured player, get the funk up right now.
You're embarrassing me because they are always whispering. I love
(01:03:20):
It's always funny too, because sometimes I know a soccer
when they go down, sometimes they kill times, so like
the trainer has to figure out if they're actually hurt
when they're talking, And I was like, what do they
say to each other? Right, Yeah, you're embarrassing. You can
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about in today's episode, as well as a song that
we think you might enjoy. Hey, Miles, what's the song
that we think people might enjoy? I think the people
will enjoy this track from the Ha Ha Sounds collective,
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and this is featuring Letitia Sadier on vocals. It's called
Ha Ha Sounds. It's called Silk Rock is the name
of the track. Silk rock and they're like a thirty
plus person group basically, but they play like the huge
arrangements that if you're like into sample based like hip
hop or like old blue note jazz and stuff. You
may have heard of David axel Rod who's like made
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a ton of songs that are like the foundation of
infinite amount of rap songs. This sounds like David axel
Rod's work and it's like really kind of trippy and
ethereal with the vocals. It's really dope and it's got
a little bit of you know, a little rhythm to
it too. So this is Silk Rock by the Ha
Ha Sounds Collective, and this isn't apparently this is a
new group. This album came out in twinter. This single
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came out like a year or two ago, So enjoy
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