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July 5, 2019 58 mins

In this special 5th of July episode, Jack and Miles are joined by Super Producers Danl Goodman and Sophie Lichterman to talk what they personally find overrated and underrated. Happy 4th of July! 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to the special bonus episode
of Oh you know who it is? You know what
it is? It is? It is the fifth of July, Sarah, Yeah,
but why do you haven't come in here? What on

(00:22):
the fourth of July? Fifth? Yeah, that's coming out the Okay, Well,
I'm spos be playing with fireworks, I know, but I
wasn't invited to your barbecue. So I real quick scheduled
a passive aggressive recording session to you know, break up,
break up the phone. And I also invited two of

(00:44):
our co workers who were invited. By the way, what's
your name? Who are you? My co host Muster Miles
Greg Yeah, cool, that's me nailing it. Um a K.
Why did you do this to me? Okay? And we're
throwed to be joined in our third seat by the

(01:06):
man behind the boards, the finger behind the bomb drops.
Uh he is. We wanted to let you guys get
to know the man, the myth, the beard d J
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from Trite Gang themselves t d Zy baby air horny

(01:28):
like Dani. Also, let's smoke up like a bomb drop
on this buck or re channel. That's right, your boy,
DJ Daniel, how's everybody doing this? It is your What
was that a Bloodhound Gang? It was Bloodhound Gang from
trit Gang. And there was two other ones that were
very sweet. I appreciate them from breast the best. Tread

(01:48):
to your standards, Andrew, I don't know. I couldn't like
I could read them both of you'd like me too,
But it's just so honorable that I got one from
just t d z a K Gang. It's like legendary stuff.
So I was like, oh, grad name. You always know
it's good when it's coming from trade game, and that's
how I feel bad And we are thrilled to be
joined in our fourth seat. That's right, you're getting to
know the whole office. Wow, we're six d At this point,

(02:12):
nobody has not been on mic Coffin. I know, uh
is that should? Should that be just all we say
to introduce her at this point. At this point we
put everyone on the air. The building manager right here,
fans of fans of other podcasts on this network, No
molist fluent uh voice from the background and the foreground

(02:37):
of Behind the Bastards and many many other podcast She
is producer, super producer in fact, Sophie licked herman. What's
up Sophie better than Miles is Yeah, what I say
at this point, shit, well you know what. This is
what happens when you had a six fourth the July
party planned and then you're like, hey, emergency recording. Really,

(03:00):
oh ship, we forgot. I have a brisket smoking right now. Yeah,
and if it's fucked up, I'm well I should have
thought of that, like super cool like meat smoker. Did
you cook it with like weird Italian spices? We'll get
to that. Yeah, I want the I want the hot takes.
We'll get to that. These takes are very medium to mild,
just so that everybody gets a picture. Miles does have

(03:23):
a chef's hat on, and Daniel and Sophie are wearing
bathing suits with those with like rubber ducky uh waste
floatation devices. Actually turned this one from I'm sorry, but
I can't swim, so that makes sense that he doesn't
swim for real. Yeah happened well when I was I
mean not anymore. That's myth. When I when I was

(03:46):
a kid, I was a really allergy to chlarine, so
and like saltwater pools weren't a thing at that point,
so I couldn't take lessons. Wow, damn I can like
I can like float and stuff. All right, So our
format for today, guys, is going to be your standard
format from the beginning of the Daily Zigeist. We're gonna

(04:08):
do a search history overrated, underrated, and a myth and shit,
but we're gonna do it from all four of us,
and we're gonna start with everybody's search history, and in
tradition of the dailies, like I have not actually looked

(04:29):
mine up yet, like many of our guests do you guys,
probably don't even uh don't even hear that because we
edited out. But almost every time we say and what
is something from your search history that's revealing about who
you are? The guest goes, oh, that is a good question,
and then uh, take a little and then I'm so sorry,
but I'm so sorry, and we say, don't worry, we

(04:50):
edit this, but really we are judging the ship out
of them. But first we're gonna ask DJ Daniel, what
is something from your search history that revealing about who
you are? That was like an eight month pregnant pause
right there. Um, it's a little still pre premature birth,

(05:10):
eight months, pregnant, very pregnant, super pregnant, and this is
revealing about my self esteem. I will often search words
that I say right after I say them to make
sure that I was saying the right words, words correct. Do.
I appreciate that, But sometimes I say that, my God,

(05:33):
I appreciate that. I was with my parents in the
airport and I said that we were on the precipice
of change, and I was like, wait, was precipice the
right word? Damn? Were you like giving a speech about
up in your head that you had to do your
second guess your words? I did myself when you said, like,
my sister is revealing about myself? Seems I think it

(05:54):
would be like Daniel Hot Engineer, Daniel background DJ, Daniel
Wicky feet, WI feet. What your feet look like? Fine?
I don't know how long are your toneils? Right now?
They're very normal? Like, thank you very much? Are you
pretty good about being on top of your toneils? Yes? Okay,

(06:14):
that's good to specially what about you, Sophie? What about me? Oh?
You right foot surgery? Thanks Miles, literally our subjects. I
really stepped in at that time. It's sort of like,
you know what that means blow. So, Sophie, sir, what

(06:47):
from your search history? I got two they're very different.
The first one is bacteria and bathrooms, like how to
reduce your German bacteria in taking your bathroom. I got
like an Instagram ad for some sort of like Lufa
alternative because it's like a micro type thing because apparently
those like really lovely lufa sponges are just cesspools, and

(07:12):
like I was like, no, I mean, do you ever
watch it's like this. It's made by a company that's
like it's like washing sponges called Bowie USA or something
like that. Well, so sponges. I've like done some research
into washing sponges, and basically ultimately what I learned is
like just throw your sponge away after like three weeks. Yeah,

(07:33):
it's not even worth You're just like ringing out that
even the microwaving it doesn't fix it. This is like
the alternative tastes a body scrubber. It's kind of weird looking.
I just ordered it. Oh yeah, I think on Instagram. Yeah,
it looks like a UFO, but it's like patented. I'm hyped.
It's just like a disc of plastic. It's it's like

(07:56):
it's a soft seamless bristles, is how it's described. I
don't know. That's one of my ak seamless bristles, right.
Um My my other thing for my search search histories.
Why is Justin Bobby still hot? Why is Justin Bobby

(08:17):
still who's Justin Bobby? The Hills come on? Oh yeah
they do with the long hair dude that like with Adrina.
Yeah we'll combat boost the beach, bro. But that was
a dude who was Danny Adrina, the captain of like
all fun Boys there is captain of the s S.
He's like, he's like very like, yeah that's yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

(08:38):
He looks like Zac Efron cosplaying as no Jason momoas.
But I was like, I mean I'm a fan, and
so I was like, I was like I watched The
Hills and I don't remember that dude at all. Dude
he was in were like fucking like a Cowbuca hat
and ship. He looked all like a fucking weird hipsters

(08:58):
like he was always on a motorcycle. He had like
the like motorcycle with and he would just yeah, I
never watched the show. He had the motorcycle a fucking
white woman. I mean, you do watch the Bachelortte and
you just wait until August rolls around and I'm completely
back on my pumpkin spice bullshit, It'll be Oh, I

(09:19):
forgot it's coming back, baby, You just wait. People don't
know this about him. There is a shadow history of
the Daily Zigeist that is produced by Sophie Lichterman because
she pitches me stories every morning that are the hills?
Did you talk about what happened on the hills last night?
Did you talk about extremely gen y young millennial ship

(09:42):
that I that I pay attention to. Do you see
how you don't have like a lot of wrinkles right now?
You're welcome? Yeah, that's why. That's exactly that's the secret.
Secret is Google stuff, kids, secret is TMZ dot com
and e online. There you go. Did you see this
story about Kobe's at cuse it? No, I won't say that. Alright.

(10:04):
How many minutes? Okay we lost it? Ten minutes? Um, alright, Sophie,
great search histories, miles. Do you have a search history?
I still don't have? All right, Well, sarched a couple
of things up. First, was just Marian Williamson. Yeah, because um,
I think she's tight in the when in the most

(10:25):
opposite terrible way. Um. And then also I was searching
about hip paint. Hip paint, Yeah it's been causing your hip.
I don't know, man. I was like, because I've fucking
podcasting and ship being in office, Like you're I need
to strengthen my hips. Is what I realized that your
dog like pulls you too hard or something or no,
that's you. Sorry, you know you need to hit the

(10:45):
tennis court in me and Nick, Oh yeah, being superproducer,
Nick stumps, Oh yeah, maybe when you're all going okay, yeah,
maybe we should do like a group that's not tennis.
We should do like a group sorry basketball. That's like
like one of those like let's go for a hike,
let's go to the kawanga pe. I wasn't thinking hike,

(11:07):
but I was thinking you should do one of those.
But I do hiking is great. Um, at least that's
what I say in my bumble profile. But the stretching,
like these stretching class things that I'm talking, you know,
the stretching classes, I need a little more than stretching.
It's like yoga, but for like people that are like
injured sedentary. Yeah, oh, injured. Like it's like physical therapy.

(11:28):
It's almost like physics, Like it's like watching me the
youngest person, and the people are like it's really cool.
Actually like yeah it's cool. Yeah, yeah, I can almost
the costs well, I don't know off the top of
my cost money. It definitely that's a joke. You have
a stretch. But I was thinking if we could do
like a YouTube workout as a team, like once a week.
Don't think about space. We have space. We just need

(11:50):
a sponsor. Sponsor man, Billy Blanks. Let's get Billy Blank
in My high school girlfriend's mom used to personally train
with Billy Blanks. Really yeah, he was at like a
house party and I thought I was tripping. That's pretty
deep connection, Tibo, dude doing here? What's the other girl
from high school who had like a tenuous claim to celebrity?
Oh mother, the other homegirl who's her godmother's house was

(12:12):
using the fly video by Sugardo? Is that is that
the most circuitous celebrity connection that you have, dud. I'm
in the background of He Got Game? You are? Yeah? Really?
When they interview uh Rick Patino, are you in the
background shooting and you can tell us me because I

(12:32):
have a really fucked up shooting, and so everyone was like, yeah,
prepared to be gift. But funny, get on that zeking
that's all you were in. Now Jack's wetty jump shot
in the back of he got game big? What about you?
Do you finally find some of your Yeah, Mexico hail storm.

(12:54):
Did you see that ship? No? It was like six
it was like multiple feet of hail. Whoa what that
just came out of nowhere in Mexico A couple of
days ago. I found this ship as I was talking
on the Daily Zeitgeist about how good weather forecasting had gotten.
And then I like, it, isn't that a crazy amount
of hal It's like up to the second Yeah, it's like, well,

(13:16):
I don't know meters, it's wild with Mexico hail storm. Yeah,
Mexico hail storm. Waaharaha. Does your insurance go up? That's
my like, do you have hail insurance? I mean I
don't know. I well, then who's fallows it from up?

(13:37):
I mean mine? But like, car insurance is not a
hobby anyways, that ship is wild. People should google it themselves.
But it turns out there are only so many things.
The weather come forecast because nobody saw this ship coming. Uh,
and it's yeah, beat the ship out of an entire
town known as Yeah. I want to go to Mexico though,

(14:02):
I was just talking to a couple who was living
down there for a couple of years. You simply must.
They gave me some secret towns that I gotta travel to,
and I won't tell any of you guys about George Bush.
So I went to to Loom like seven years ago
before the wave came. Yeah. Uh. Sophie is getting sued

(14:23):
multiple times for her use of Cardi B's I did
Not Go. I said very different. It's that's the less
cool version, more of a homage. It's my take on it.
All right, we're gonna take a quick break and we'll
be back with some over under. Sorry I get choked up.
We're gonna be back with some over We will be

(14:49):
back right after this, and we're bad, and uh, it's
time for some over unders. Guys. Do you guys want
to start with overs unders? I'm down for either. I

(15:11):
got them already, all right, let's do unders underrated underrated Tuscany. Oh,
you mother, simply you simply must. I mean you simply
must go cheap. Uh, No, underrated. I wrote down, uh
the official sandwich of Florence, Italy. It's made of tripe,

(15:36):
stewed tripe. And I'm not the I mean, I'll eat
tripe yet in certain context, but I'm not. I don't
gravitate towards it because it is stomach, the stomach, stomach
lin alright, it's intesting. Yeah, well if you don't, if
you don't, if you don't wash it out, it tastes terrible. Right,
So this sandwich, it's fucking immaculately clean, and then it's

(15:56):
stewed and it just has this texture on this read
I've I didn't know I had. There were still sandwiches
that I did not know about, you know, like i've
I know most cold cuts of meat and other constructions
of things between two breads. But when I had this,
my goodness, Uh yes, most of my things gonna be
food related. I mean mine kind of piggybacks off of

(16:19):
that one. My underrated is it's perfecting something simple. And
this goes out to many different things, namely zen like

(16:41):
this got I got one shot. I got one shot, right.
This opportunity comes in once in lifetime, you better so
perfecting something simple and it goes to what you're saying
right here. And I find that with a lot of foods,
the simpler the preparation, the more it's down to like
the one thing being done well, the better it is.
You could go back, way, way way back to like
a good old Strativarius violin right there. It's like that

(17:04):
thing has been the same for years. Antiques Road Show,
I like this Strativarius. Have you gone to sharper Image
and tried their strativarius? Man, that ship is dope. It
has glowing LEDs on it and which usually appeals to me.
Wait there's a sharper Image version of a stratus. Yeah, dude,
I thought no, I'm totally Also, Jake Beau was playing

(17:26):
Starship Troopers. I will always talk about love that movie,
that that's a good movie. And I saw The Moon.
I was way too young. My sister saw that movie
at the same time when she my sister's nine years
younger than me, when she saw that when she was like,
I like the bug movie and I'm sitting there like crying,
be like I can't want to the dudes face melting. No,
but like you know this. This goes out to the
burgers that I love so much. Burgers never said I
go check it out. It's great smash burgers. But like
the whole idea is that it's just meat and a

(17:48):
little salt, little pepper. You smash it on the grill
and it's perfect. It's done perfectly. You don't need a
lot of ship animalism. But also just like nailing the
one thing, perfecting something simple. Sure smash that name is
what I say. You didn't react, So I just wanted
to talk about, you know about burgers. Never died. But

(18:11):
I guess the burgers are good. I mean, it does
sound like one of those who was it was it
Billy Wayne Davids who was talking about like a Portland
bar that's named like you know, I met her over
there on a Tuesday. It does kind of fall into
that category. Yeah. Uh, Sophie Lichtorman, what is something you
think is underrated? So I got several, most of which

(18:33):
are women, and then one is an app. Which would
you like me to start with? You do it? Obviously,
I'm starting with the women's um. Wendy Williams super underrated
in one way. She had her husband had a whole
baby on her and look at her host in her
show had a baby on her. How did he do that? Physically? You?

(18:54):
And she's just out here living like like she literally
looks like a snack and a half. So she's out
here hosting her own She took him off the producing credit,
but but bye bye, and it's just out here. I
love her? How you doing? How you doing? I mean

(19:14):
that was a way about her innotation. Yeah, I feel
like she's properly rated, but okay, down like she's underrated. Okay,
next up, Genie bus underrated, super underrated. She can't she
always she she lived on her don't even make that face,
Jack O'Brien. She had to live under her dad's shadow
and then she had to come in and her brother
fucked all this ship up, and now she's out here

(19:37):
holding her own and has to deal with all these
problematic men all the time. Um, should we just move on? Yeah?
All right? Next next is uh does from the day? Okay,
we're not okay whatever, I'm not. We're not going there.
We're not going there. Next right now, are you sure

(20:00):
you want to go here? I don't want to go here.
She doesn't even go here. Mac next is Dasiltic from
the Daily Show. She did that special abroad that was
really good on Comedy Central. She also does Jessie Letic.
Woman splains all the time on the Daily Show. She's awesome. Uh,
all the female presidential candidates, even if you don't like

(20:22):
their politics, shout out, I mean everybody, but you know, Kirsten,
do your thing. Okay, Yeah, like Kamala. The way to

(20:45):
here's a here's a little tip for you guys. The
way to remember how to pronounce Kamala. Harris's name is
common law, common law like common law wafe. Actually, cuter
way to remember her name is that her stepchildren call
her Mamala. Mamala Yeah wow, Yeah she got step children. Yeah?

(21:06):
Does she have her own children from so she has
from her husband from her children are her own children.
She does my stepmom and mom. She doesn't believe the
word is step children. Tys to believe the word stepmom.
That's where they call her mamlay just like a little
fun fact. And then the last thing that I mean
that could also be a dick move where they're they're like, alright,

(21:28):
I love you, mom Maala like that. She thinks she's
getting the mom, and then they complete it with the
I just feel like that's coming from inside your heart
and not they're like how times call people a Mama,
Luke Italy one more time it's like Italian American um.
And then lastly, shout out to the target app. Okay,

(21:51):
target app. That sounds really fucking weird but amazing shout
out because targets literally, if you are anywhere and there's
a tar get, you can get around that ship by
using the target apt because it tells you where everything
is in each aisland. It's numbered and it's amazing and
you get codes. Yes down, Okay, total question about that.
So like codes thing, do you also get to like
build up target points where you can get shipped for

(22:13):
cheaper or something. I'm actually not just like that's what
starbusb Alright, we're really interested in that. Huh. Well, I'm
just saying. You know what I was gonna say though,
is that like this whole apping is similar, like what's
happening with Netflix and all of these whatever things is
just trying to get everybody like locked into their service
where it's like, oh, if I go to Starbucks seventeen
more times, I might get one free lot to targets

(22:35):
like that, but you can't get access to like coupons
and there's like cartwheel deals and I don't know why
I can't. If you like that, the Ralph's does that,
and it totally makes me go back to Ralphs Club,
Superior warehouse, sort of superior grocery outlets. There you go.
I mean, I'm getting jumped in right here. So also
speaking of Starbucks, Starbucks refreshers, strawberry lemonade underrated. Hell, yeah,

(23:02):
I hope that check is good. You're welcome Target. Actually
all that ship is housed in a Target. Yeah is
your blood type Target? It's nordstromp but thank you. Yeah.
It's funny because in Italy they don't have Target. Yeah,
they have this thing called co Op. That's really cool too.

(23:22):
Let it fans. Let us know how many times Miles
mentioned Italy in this episode. Ship Daniald just jumped off
the building. He left us. I can't jump through the
poison window. Oh yeah, people know about our poison wind.
That was probably the funniest thing ever was in when
eger mom pussy doubt about it. He almost left. What's
the poison window? It's just that so when they when

(23:43):
they glue. They had to glue all this in right here.
And it's like some of those doors are not necessarily
like super safe and whatnot and just kind of all
sealed in there, so you know, and they died in there. Yeah,
it's crazy old bones. We called, you know, all the
apps and not all the apps, but like most of

(24:04):
the popular apps in China are like super apps, where
like KFC has like an Uber application inside their app,
so like you like to go into the KFC and
then you can order a car to take you to
the KFC or anywhere. Yeah, that's how apps are. And
the other thing puper integrated. Yeah. And the other thing

(24:26):
I've had China is like this alternate version of America's
economy where things are different. But uh, that was very
well put, thank you. But even if that's not, I
like it don't have to be over there. All podcasts
are subscription based and uh best why it's not taken

(24:50):
off on it? No, it's like a two point five
billion dollars okay me how how That's what Creed says
in the office when he says, I want to give
a shout out to my friends in Hong Kong, and
he goes understand Miles, is uh memory of office ship

(25:11):
you already gave you Uh yeah. Other videos of Brett Weinbach.
We're talking about man giving birth all over drum technique
and also giving birth and my backup Underrata's time fluctuation
because having kids, I have realized that time is different

(25:34):
for them because they have fewer experiences. So every experience
is like one of a hundred as opposed to one
of a million. Uh and so yeah, that that's why
you know, when there's something they want and they can't
get it, they start losing their ship because uh, you know,

(25:57):
it feels like it's lasting forever to them. Underrated at Wisdom,
it's time fluctuation, Miles experience. That's right, because baby's like
they're on ship, you know. I mean, I don't know
why it just didn't let you do it, because I mean,
you can learn something, man, I'm tired of teaching y'all. Well. Also,

(26:20):
I guess because looking at the number of people who
have use drugs. We were talking while you were gone, Miles,
how it's a very small portion of the population who
has used drugs. Most of the population doesn't realize how
much time dilates and stretches out when you're on various drugs. Yeah,
so I'm living in slow motion, that's right. Um so

(26:44):
my reaction is so quick. Time is like a concept man,
um cool, nailed it. And moving on to overrated or
I guess we got overrated a myth? We got overrated
a myth. We're at thirty minutes, Holy ship it. I
feel like we're at like, right, holy sh it, we're

(27:04):
at minutes. What is something you think is overrated? Ma'am overrated?
I said good graphics. Now what I mean by this
is that too many things franchises are holding their weight
on something looking good. And I want to preface this
by saying that I think people who do VFX art,

(27:26):
people who do like, you know, animation and that kind
of stuff, are incredibly talented and what they do is amazing.
But like a movie resting its laurels on something looking
good or amazing, I think is not valid anymore. That's
where I'm That kind of is part of my overrated
Yeah crazy, but yeah, it's just like we keep you know,

(27:48):
we Miles talks about the Division two a lot, and
I played that game a lot as well, and it
looks amazing after it plays like ship and there's a
lot of things that are wrong with it outside of
it looking good. But so many people are just like,
just look, it's like d C like exactly, and that's awesome.
That's fantastic. And the fact that Ubisoft had enough money

(28:09):
and resources to pour into it to make that happen,
it's fantastic. Se Like Washington, why would that be something
that you would want to replicate. I don't know, talk
to the people who produced Division two. Aesthetics are overrated
because we're also living in a world where we have
people who are fucking evil that look good on camera. Yes,

(28:32):
that isn't quite connecting the dots and people's brains where
they're like, oh, but this person looks nice. That's my manager.
Can you I just missed my shift at Subway again? Fire? Um,
Like you know, like you look at like Ivanka Trump
for example, You know what I mean, she looks nice.

(28:55):
She doesn't look like a fucking goon or something, even
though she is on the side of absolute evil. Hey
wait a second, yeah, yeah, hold, And just like even
when you look at like what we were talking about,
the like Trump ads that have like these models in it,
like it's people are very disarmed by things that are

(29:15):
esthetically pleasing, and I think in terms of like when
we're showing this like government for what it is, like,
they're getting away with a lot too, because I think
we live in this like TV aesthetic focused era where
like yeah, well, like you know if like Ivanka doesn't
have a hunchback and like fangs coming out, so she

(29:35):
got that chin and plant, but she's a monster and
all these people are monsters and don't be fooled by
ship that looks good. Also because it's I think a
lot of the times we take oh look good for
it is good or like moral but you know, shout
out tell the beautiful. My overrated is ugly people. Uh,
try it harder, pay attention to yourself. You not have

(30:00):
a mirror, get your ship together? What are you doing?
Let me do this? Okay, yeah, of being five. My
overrated is fireworks because uh, they don't last very long
and you never know when they're coming. Like men, oh ship,

(30:22):
but don't you know when they're coming? Not always because
people just to do them in the middle of the
night and earth and just upset all the dogs in
the neighborhood. People do them in the middle of the
night like men like men, Hey, when are you opening
for Chelsea? Shout out to Chelsea? And they listened to
our podcast I produced also over it is victorious, secret trap.

(30:49):
Nothing literally nothing fits. It's overpriced and you go in there,
you get measured. They always measure you wrong. It's it's yeah,
it's black. They never have your size and store they
don't do half sizes. It's messed up. Yeah, the note
of room in the crotch. According to some message boards,

(31:11):
I go on, um, what else was I gonna? Oh?
You know, do you think I was gonna say? The
NBA is has become overrated? I agree, it's not a
it's not a competitively, it's not a fucking sports mean,
it's entertainment. It's entertainment. It's very Hollywood that social media
is a bit has a big impact on it. I mean,

(31:31):
but I still enjoy watching it. I enjoy watching it,
but I don't it's taken on social media thing, not
even as a social media thing, like as a like,
as a as a sports league. So many actually, you know,
and this goes along with many other team sports, professional
sports completely just the concentration of talent and money is
like so lopsided in certain areas where it's like, yeah,

(31:52):
I mean there are these other teams, but we're really
just talking about these three teams, or talking about these
two teams or in some like I mean the Hollywood
aspect of it is. It's a lot, sure, but I
guess even just from like you know, the days are
gone of like there were many competitive teams. It's like
if you want to win, you have to competition anymore. Yeah,
you have to be very intentional about like where where

(32:12):
you're going, where with the teams are being put together,
and you know who knows it By the time we
record this, Kawhi Leonard could be a laker. I don't know,
which would only then everything is fair, which no, not
even and I'm kind of like fine, but like you
know my anxiety. Yeah, do you think I don't know
as we record this. Do you think there is a

(32:33):
sport or activity that is balanced for for competition? Is
there any activity out there like individual sports like tennis? Yes,
you know what I mean, like you just you're that
one person. Although man, there was there was that time
when tennis, like when Pete Sampras was always winning and
he was like the most boring athlete or like it.

(32:54):
But I guess in turns and yeah, but I guess
it may can be lopsided because one person may be
so talented. But it's like when you have super teams,
you're like, well, of course they're gonna suck it exactly
because they just don't bother me at all. It bothered
me when Durant went to the Warriors after they won
the most games ever. Doing that Miami bothered me. That
didn't bother me at all. The decision bothered me. That

(33:15):
special the decision, Yeah, that was bad, but the spectacle
of him going to Miami didn't bother me. I was
tired of seeing him have to lose on Cleveland teams
that didn't give him anything to work with. I mean,
speaking of the spectacle in Hollywood all that. I'm also
a little bit over remakes like like Space Tram too,

(33:35):
Like I mean, obviously that's a sequel park that outside,
but you know what I mean, Like that's all that
they're doing right now. Okay, this is a take from
Okay whatever. I'm kind of hype that they to take
from the six. I mean I'm hyped that they Like
they announced this week that um Holle Bailey of Chloe
and Hollie is going to be aerial little Mabe Like

(33:57):
that sounds cool live action remake. Yeah, but did we
have to do like Dumbo? Did we like? Did we
have to like there's just so many we just ask
the marketing people who are at the studios who basically
decide what needs to be made, because you're like, I
think this is gonna be profitable, so we'll make it
like another Men in Black. No, No, I didn't even

(34:18):
need Men in Black too, But I was gonna say,
I mean, so there was a time when I was
your age, young woman when all sequels sucked, General Jerry Ford. No,
there there was a like I think it started with
the Fast and Furious franchise when like all of a sudden,

(34:40):
the fifth one was like the best one in the franchise,
like and it was way better than any of the
other movies in the franchise, and it was just like, wait,
what what just happened? That never happened? And Toy Story
movies just keep getting progressively better as well. I agree,
So this is a flawed take that I had. Well,
I get what you're saying, just like we need dumb wow, Okay,
are you really out of vendor it against him? I

(35:00):
mean it was on pay per view before, like I
didn't even know it was in theaters. I do think
the live action remakes of animated classics are probably not
going to stand the test of time. Like that's how
I feel as well. I'm curious how Lion King goods.
I'm anti Lion King? Yeah, well, look Dumbo fine. I
think after a while, though, the nostalgia is just gonna
wear thin, and like you've already you can only circle

(35:22):
back on these time honored, beloved films where we're like, yo,
like now we need acclaimation. Lion King. Yeah, I don't know. Also,
how come your anti uh Lion King? Well, this, I mean,
this goes back. I love Beyonce, and I think the
music that's going to come out of that is probably
gonna be great. It will be a bunch of what

(35:45):
is this flawless? First of all, I'm not even when
I'm doing this, but flass maybe single last, we're not
even doing this. I'm not doing this. I can we
do it together sometimes? Sure? Um? Anyway, so Lion King,
oh my god, Sophie, this goes back to the whole
practical thing where it's like, that movie is the same

(36:06):
movie as the original Lion King. A lot of the
original story boarders and writers are not getting paid all
of that all. Yeah, and it's like that's the kind
of thing where it's that movie is going to be
the same movie. Also, in my personal opinion, the Disney movies,
they got all of that personality from the way that
they animate the faces of these creatures, not from them
looking like animals, right, and that is not going to

(36:29):
make me be like, oh cool. Zazoo is like totally
funny and quirky, expressive exactly, just non expressive birds. That's
Oliver Seth Brogan. That's all. I'm just gonna throw it
out there. What about him, Yes, he plays a to
mow or Pumba, he's Puma. Probably he's Puma. I think
Billy Eichner is Tom like that. Yeah, but but still

(36:51):
it's like, but it's just they're just animals. They're just
animals with the voice. Shame, they're just animals with the voices.
You're not going to have the same kind of emotional connection.
I didn't see Jungle Book, but I was like, man,
the New Jungle Book act. You get it. You like
in theaters. No, I did not, it's not worth it. Uh,

(37:13):
like that's not how animals. That's animals actually don't talk.
So I was completely checked out. They just don't. There's
no expression there. Yeah, that's the thing animals are not.
They don't have that. And also someone color graded the
shots from the live action Lion King to mimic more
the colors colors of the animated version, and I was like, damn, Like,

(37:35):
even if you just color graded it differently, it would
look better rather than like trying to keep a So
like this is what the Sun said. Yeah, my overrated
is conventional wisdom. I already hate it by the end
of those two words, I hated it. But uh, yeah,
did you take a philosophy because yeah, time were you? Yeah,

(38:01):
Uh that's it conventional. What do you mean sick? Nope, No,
I mean I was thinking about it because we were
talking about UFOs and like just the idea like that
I have lived with my whole life that there's no
way UFOs are real, and that they haven't visited us,
and that it would be wild. Truth is out there

(38:23):
dog now the air forces like we don't know what
this ship is and yeah, I don't know, man, after
two thousand and sixteen election, obviously, I think people were like,
your conventional wisdom's bullshit. But then they're still writing the
same articles this time around that they wrote in two
thousand and sixteen. Things aren't looking good for Trump, Yeah, yeah,

(38:49):
and like the same like takes by the same political
strategists about like how it's all about personalities and like
people don't really pay attention to the policies and ship.
Like it's just I think there's a conventional wisdom that
everybody else is stupid. Like people just like to think
that all the faceless masses are stupid, and like that's

(39:10):
that's how like media professionals think. They're just like yeah,
they they're all they care about is like the Trump
is funny and it's like, no, he was lying about
the ship and being like taking advantage of the racism,
but yeah, he was also lying and saying he was
going to do the thing that no politicians been able

(39:31):
to do, which is, you know, give money and power
back to the poor in the country. Um. But people
are like, no, it's it's that he's cool and funny
and a reality star. Um. And then go to gold
toilet and then Pete Holmes had this thing on his
stand up special Why. He was talking about how people

(39:51):
who talk about how there's no way there's such thing
as an afterlife because like, come on, that would be weird,
and uh, he was saying, how how weird life is,
like if you just think about it. Have you guys
ever had the thing that's kind of an aside, but
have you ever been looking at someone at a certain
angle and suddenly their face looks totally like alien or something? Yeah,

(40:14):
I don't know, like when they're facial features like start, no, no, no,
not like he looks like an alien, like their facial feature.
Like sometimes it happens when somebody's like I'm looking at
somebody's profile, like it just looks like their face isn't
in the right shape or sorry, what kind of profile
are you looking at? You? No, Like somebody's talking um

(40:39):
profiles done. Sometimes people look like Picasso paintings to me,
and it just makes me think about like you're taken
out of it and like I'm able to see what
it would look like to see a human being for
the first time, to like somebody who's like an alien,
or like seeing a human face for the first time.

(41:00):
And it's really weird, and it also just gives you
some perspective on how weird our day to day life is. Yeah,
I mean, who's to say that what we're living right
now isn't hell? Okay, I'm serious, Like, depending on how
you look, this could be purgatory. I mean, it all
depends on how you're trying to contextualize, like the human experience.

(41:20):
If it's like, if you believe in after like, you
could argue maybe this is heaven. Don't. I don't even
I don't understand how you can look at where we
are now and not think that anything is possible in
this universe. Anything. You smash a bunch of rocks together,
and all of a sudden we were four people in
a room on microphones recording a podcast. I mean, that's
not how it happened. Dan, alright, Ah, can lid in

(41:46):
the alley behind on a street light? Hello? Um alright guys,
we uh should we do myths? Alright? I prepared another breaker.
Let's do another break real quick. Take a break and

(42:11):
we're back. All right. I'm gonna start the myths out
with the fact that so my myth is that we
don't know what happened to that plane, which one from
like four years ago. Yeah, yeah, we know, we do know. Yeah,
we basically know what happened. So what happened, So it
was the pilot, So yeah, so um, you're talking about

(42:36):
Ocean the Malaysian air that disappeared, so we have so
basically the reason we didn't think I mean, it was
a very strange event. But the reason that people weren't
able to put it together pretty quickly was because Malaysia
is a fairly corrupt country and they didn't want it
to be pinned on them as like letting this dude

(42:56):
fly a plane, so he was like made to be
this like you know, totally stand up person with a record.
And so the main piece of evidence, like there were
all these different beacons that showed exactly where the plane
went and it like made this big turn, and it's
just it can't have been hijacking, and it can't have

(43:18):
been them flying like passing out and the plane going
on autopilot, like it had to have been somebody was
flying it and the only rational thing is that it
was a pilot. But the main piece of evidence that
like kind of nails it for me is the pilot
had a flight simulator in his house and one of
the flights that he had taken was this exact route

(43:41):
crashing into the Antarctic Ocean, like do what he He
had done that, yes, and it was the only one
of like a thousand different ones that he had done
on like sped up. So it's like usually he does
it for the experience. In practice, at this one, he
was basically either doing it to see how quickly the

(44:04):
fuel would run out, or as sort of a clue
to people, like, yeah, I'm doing this that that's what people.
But yeah, he had flown basically that exact route in
a flight simulator, but they had like basically covered it up.
There's a there's a really interesting magazine article about it
that people should check out. Anyways, we know did he

(44:25):
do it, did he do it on purpose? And the
bread what and the breadcrumbs are that he did that
practice run on his computer game, And that's not unheard of.
There was that Egyptian air flight where the dude just
like no, nosed it into the Atlantic Ocean. There's been
a couple of flights like that where fun there was

(44:46):
the German pilot who uh flew into the side of
a mountain with a bunch of people on board. Yeah,
so it's really sad, but it is also like I
feel like the media is somewhat exploiting it because it's
like a huge mystery and they like talking about it,
but it's actually just a very sad story it is.

(45:06):
Let me see, I'll find the magazine both This episode
brought to you by Greyhound Buses trains and okay, Starbucks
and Target. Okay, what's yours? Miles? Um, I don't even
know it's gonna be about Italy? Um No, it's that

(45:28):
weddings have to be expensive. As someone whose life goes
on and I'm approaching the marriage phase of my life
and my relationship with her majesty. Um what was this
something we talked about? Because Miles proposing on air? Yes,
we're going to call her right now and I'm going

(45:48):
to propose. What is that? Get on and you guys
cheer for me. I'm going to tell you, but look
behind you, it's my fucking step mom. Is this dude
that's fucked up? This is the wrong competition? Um No,
I just it's not even like I don't know if
it's like a myth. More so that It's something I've

(46:08):
seen where there are people who are very will gladly
pay just astronomical sums of money for a wedding um
and other people who can achieve matrimonial bliss without spending
so much money. And I'm just like, the whole fucking
wedding look and this is like like not really even

(46:28):
a take, but this whole wedding issues fucking sham, and
like I cannot, like to the point where I'm talking
to Her Majesty, I'm like, yo, you know what we
should do. Let's be let's fucking fake out a hotel
and say we're having a merger of two companies, and
we get a ballroom and say it's a merger of
Gray Corp. And Her Majesty uh International, and treat the

(46:50):
whole thing, the ceremony like a business function. So all
the people are there, yeah, and they're like, yeah, I see,
I see the presence. I'm doing a presentation here, because
the second you do weight, it's like, oh, co times
sucking more right, funk out of here. So it's almost
like a myth to me that luckily she's on the
same page as I am. Like, it just doesn't seem
appropriate to spend that much money or it almost seems

(47:13):
like kind of obscene to me to put that concentrate
that much capital into one thing that is just is
one moment, and I get like, you know, some people
want that though, like big weddings the food suffers, yeah,
or a good size wedding, if it's a good size,
I mean the gold as long as the food doesn't
suffer a very important food is super crucial. See, then

(47:36):
these p be spending more money on that, you know,
or just make or just make it a thing where
you get there, you go like, all right, look, just
have the k barbecue party. And I'm be like, yo,
don't everybody get guawk the fuck. I'm trying to save money.
Like you can come my wedding, but if you want clock,
it's going to be a three dollar exactly B y
O G. But um yeah, I just feel like there's

(47:59):
I think it's a I think the assignment, you know,
the other thing to like even with engagement rings, like
that's got to be this this this and this be
this size, it's gotta be this amount of your income.
And I just feel like, again, these are all just
terrible marketing things that have been put into people's mind,
see exactly. No, but what do you But what do
you mean by that? Like not even trying to come
at you like in your mind? What does that mean?

(48:19):
I just don't have to look at it. No, but
I'm saying you need to have a It doesn't need
to be a thousand dollars and a twelve thousand dollar ring.
I know people, you're group. No finger went up fifteen No, no, no,
I'm not trying to have something that somebody would want
to like mirk me over, that's anything like an I

(48:40):
don't I mean lord, but I'm just saying it's something
that you want to be proud to have. It doesn't
necessarily it's not a number. Sure. I guess what I'm
realizing too, is I have I'm realizing how little I'm
attaching my pride to the like the actual dollar amount
or something right, And I think and that is more
of a traditional way of things, like well, I value you.

(49:00):
I value you at fifteen dollars for one ring, Like
what the fuck? No, way that's up. I don't know.
There's part of me too, like when you just look
at the state of the world and that kind of
like money that's being thrown around. It's like that just
seems like an absolute fucking waste to do. So my
myth is, you know what, dude, funck money, It's about love.
Wo you know, except I'm doing I'm in the middle

(49:24):
of the misunderstanding with d w P because I tried
to pay in Maryann Williamson love and they still shut
my power off. Wild doctor try to give him the
same deal they were like kids. I'm like, well, the
problem is we need to weaponize love. And it's like, okay,
my whole ship went off. So if you like, what
is your myth? Uh that when you're in school that

(49:44):
algebra is important? What okay is important? At what level?
You're saying like quadratic equations? Like I don't use that ship?
Do you use that ship? I use sometimes? All right?
Whatever brag. First of all, I'm just saying, like, why
why would you not just like teach me how to

(50:04):
you know, like pay my Like I mean, I have
a great credit score, but I mean, like I know
if I heard, but I'm not about to put it
on there. Um what's the last four your socials? Um?
But I'm just saying, like, if you learn like statistics
in like earlier school instead of you know what I mean,
like but like having to do like algebra one and algebras,

(50:27):
like what the I think that's good. You're you're You're.
I think there's value to using your brain even if
you're not using it. You've actually expanded your brain activity
by going taking a place as you might not literally know,
I'd rather have taken advanced edition advanced editions adding like

(50:48):
plus fifty three plus. I would rather like I would
rather learn like, okay, if I use my credit card
on this, how many how many points will I get?
And what will that like? Like that like I don't
like A plus B equals sees like I don't care.
I think you might not care to better Like life skills,

(51:08):
it doesn't matter, Okay, I don't think it's an either
or much to say algebra doesn't matter. I don't think
algebra necessarily, I don't think it's I don't think it's
like it's a necessary life skill, like you die without it.
But I don't think you could say that to learn
it like at some point as a child, isn't like
it's maybe instead of dare, they could have given us

(51:30):
a special crash course. Dare matters, but like, look at
me and tell me dare matters. I mean I'm looking
at you matters. Sorry, sorry, sorry, not sorry. I'm just
saying there's like many classes that we were forced to
take that I'm like, we should have one focus focused

(51:53):
more on Like I took a class called Ancient Civilizations.
We should have okay, which is really cool, which is
really cool and I feel like helps me and help
me think outside of the box. I would have rather
have taken more of that rather than fucking algebra two. Okay,
all right, Um, a lot of trigonometry hating here. Yeah.

(52:16):
See also you know a fox stoycheometry. I mean I
would have rather have taken like philosophy classes in high
school and middle school and stuff like that, like things
that helped you help you think ideologically, and like more
outside of the box, I mean, the most beneficial classes
I took in high school, or like more of the
humanity spaceed classes rather than once again, fucking algebra. Fuck
you algebra especially. We'll do another whole entire episode where

(52:41):
we just find out what happened in this algebra, who
this teacher was, and what it did to your g
p A. I went to college Dan, Yes, what is
your myth? I have a couple and I'll blow through
them really quickly. My first one is that it's lame
to wear the same clothes as someone else. I don't
think that's lame. I think it's awesome. I think it's
really cool. I love to win, I love to twins.

(53:02):
Another one is that all of those Twitter retweets are
a conspiracy, and I'll explain what I mean by that.
You ever see someone who tweets something like can't wait
to have my cheerios Iowa style, and then it's obviously
something disgusting and gross where they're eating their cheerios with
like orange juice or something, and then someone retweets that
and says, yo, bro, are you kidding me? This looks
disgusting and gets like a hundred thousand likes in their tweet.

(53:23):
My conspiracy is those people are working together. When you
see some bullshit where it's like, ye okay, it's just
it's someone doing something, it's the social where it's like,
clearly something is amiss in this picture where it's like, hey,
check out my new car, and it's like the picture
has like, well A, it's busted, but b there's like
a mirror there and they're naked in the mirror or something.
It's like yo, but look at the mirror, l O L.

(53:45):
It's like no ship. That's the point the conspiracy is
that those people are together. Okay, my last, My last
myth is that the music industry is no different at
any level. And Miles and I have talked about this before,
but when it comes to big artists and stuff like that,
when you think of like your Katy Perry's or your
Billie eilish is or something like that, and putting those
two people in the same breath these days a little strange,

(54:05):
But you don't think that either of those people is
like involved in every single level of their music making,
Like do you think that Billie Eilish is also making
every beat that she's on, or that Katy Perry is
making every enough about Billie Eilish is your producer? Well? She?
I mean, my my understanding is that she's a singer. Uh,
she has some production experience, but like her brother writes
a lot of her songs as well. She has worked

(54:27):
with producers in the past and either way, and I
think with you know rappers as well, Like do you
think jay Z made all of his beats. In fact, no,
it's famous that Kanye made a bunch of beats for
jay Z and even when it comes to and just
plays exactly as well. All I'm saying is that as
that goes down and down and down, it's the same
at every level of the industry. It's like, not every
single E d M producer DJ is also making all

(54:50):
of their own ship. They don't direct their own music videos,
they don't make all the own art for their stuff.
It's not always this super self contained project. And so
are some artist though that that that are like that, Yes,
they're one person totally. People like that. There's even people
who will record all of their own instruments, and there's
like Keller Williams and Paul Westerberg who just like you know,
literally record every instrument on their own, literally do it

(55:12):
all by themselves. But all I'm saying is that, you know,
don't be so hurt if you find out that you know,
someone you know had half of the song produced by
someone else, or that like some of kashmere Cat's pianos
were played by Lito, Like Okay, so now I know
who you're talking about. Look, I love Kashmir Cat is

(55:32):
one of my favorite producers straight up, hands down and
an incredible turntable list in DJ. But like you know,
the pianos on there were produced by Ledo and that's fine,
that's okay, and I'm not worn with that. No, I'm
not either. But when some people are like, oh, someone's
got ghost producers, it's like, yeah, everybody is. Everybody does.
Get over it. That's my myth. Alright, and that's going
to do it for today's special bonus episode. Naham, what

(55:58):
is it? Go right now? Okay? I just it's shout
out too late, goddamnit. Shout out to uh Alex Morgan
from the US women's national team for soccer. Uh. This
person tweeted in reference to her doing the sip the
team and after she scored the goal number thirteen, which
is her jersey number on her birthday in honor of

(56:20):
those thirteen colonies. That's the tet Wow Connies, Betsy Ross
Flag White Supremacy No. Thirteen stars, Dan Yo, what about
that six years Jersey had the thirteen stars? About that? Also?
Shout out to the person that made a Twitter handle

(56:41):
called Kawai's suv so funny. I love that this generation.
There's reports that Kauai is in me right now, Kauai
is inside me, sourced to say update has now coughed
three times in a row. In the back seat could
be hinting at creating a super team with three superstars
in l a more details to come, Dan, do you
have space? Um, you don't have to have a tweet?

(57:01):
All right, guys, I's gonna do it for this weekend.
Uh next weekend? Hey damn hey Dan? Where can people
find you? Follow you? You can find me on Twitter
at d J Underscore Daniel. You can find me on Twitter.
Oh that's no, that's fair. Yeah, DJ Underscore d A
n L. It's just a nickname. And you can find

(57:21):
on Instagram and just DJ Daniel if you want hot.
Video game takes on very tepid opinions, and y'all go,
really realize. I get all my legends from Marv Albert exactly.
I wonder where those video game jokes come from, the
Howard co Sell of l O L. You honor me,
Sophie Lichtorman. Where can people find you? Follow you? Well?

(57:43):
I don't have Twitter, but you can follow me on
You have Twitter? Twitter every day? Uh? Follow you? Can
follow me on Instagram at Sophie Underscore, Ray Underscore of Underscore,
Sunshine and are a thank you, thank you for that,
But most importantly follow the podcast I produce, which are many.

(58:06):
So yeah. Check out Behind the Bat, how can this
Chelsea Handler Life, the Death of meets the BacT to cast,
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(58:29):
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