December 6, 2018 • 48 mins
In episode 288, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Guy Montgomery to discuss Fortnite emotes attracting lawsuits, the break up of Cardi B and Offset, Trump and Michael Cohen's obstruction of justice, the right trying to downplay the Mueller investigation, more on the North Carolinas voter fraud, a new study on French fries, Christmas music that has been #MeToo'd, Peta pushing anti-animal language, and more!
FOOTNOTES:
1. Rapper 2 Milly Sues Epic Games For Stealing His Dance
2. Cardi B and Husband Offset Split: "We Grew Out of Love"
3. Michael Cohen, Trump’s former lawyer, pleads guilty to lying to Congress about Moscow project
4. Trump’s latest tweets cross clear lines, experts say: Obstruction of justice and witness tampering
5. WHY IT MATTERS THAT TRUMP DENIES RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE
6. IS THIS IT?: A TRUMP-HATER’S GUIDE TO MUELLER SKEPTICISM
7. Ballot fraud allegations complicate North Carolina congressional election results
8. You Don’t Want Fries With That
9. Radio station pulls ‘Baby, It’s Cold Outside’ amid #MeToo movement
10. 'Baby, It's Cold Outside' Banned From Canadian Radio Stations, Too
11. ‘Baby, It’s Cold Outside’: The real story of the song
12. PETA offers replacement sayings for the 'anti-animal language' in daily conversations
13. WATCH: Pam Amsterdam - Landlord Elijah
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season sixty, Episode four.
Up there, Daily's eight Guys, the podcast where we take
a deep dive into America's share consciousness using the headlines,
box office reports, TV ratings, and what's trending on Google
and social med It's Thursday, December six, two th team.
My name is Jack O'Brien. A kay, I'm going going
Jack Jack O'Brien Brian courtesy of Christi Yamagucci Main and
(00:24):
I'm thrilled to be joined as always buy my co host,
Mr Miles Great. I said, do you speak of Miles language?
He just smiled and gave me a bit of Miles sandwich.
Oh and I just came up with that one on
the spot because I'm so stoked for what is in
the building right now. Yeah, We're thrilled to have in
their thirds the hilarious comedian Guy Montgomery. Hello, fellas, Hello
(00:51):
might here finally Yeah, you see it, brother, we'll swap
accents later, I think it sure. Uh, Well, it's great
to have you here, uh here in the States and
in the studio. We're going to get to know you
a little bit better in a moment. First, we're gonna
tell our listeners. What we're gonna be talking about. We're
(01:13):
gonna talk about Fortnite. We're gonna talk about Cardi bing,
Offset breaking up. So we're gonna talk Trump ship, Mueller ship,
you know, all that stuff. Well, we'll get to it all,
but first we like to ask our guests, guy, what
is something from your search history that's revealing about who
you are? As well? Quite recently, I was I was
(01:33):
actually doing some comedy here in Los Angeles, California, the
very city that we're presently in, thank you, and the
hosts were that were riffing around, uh, you know, talking
about whatever they wanted to. Can you believe it? They
in the middle of one of them was on a
computer during the riff it was and they see it.
(01:55):
Marilyn Manson has um died oh ship. And then I
was like, I was backstage when to go on, and
I was like, oh, whoa, because that's you know, you
believe that if someone just told you yeah, and you
must have been gutted when you heard yeah. Obviously you
can tell by the T shirt in the face pant
based on your look pretty deep in the Marilyn Manson,
(02:19):
you know, fan world. But anyways, crawled into the room back.
I immediately wanted to verify it, so I looked it
up and he was He's still alive. But then suddenly
I was like, after the show, I was like, that's right,
Marilyn Manson isn't just alive, but he's you know, he's
out there doing stuff. So I googled Marilyn Manson facts. Yeah,
just to sort of you know, so that was my
most recent Google from like, uh, guy, you're really dating
(02:42):
the podcast, I say, Marilyn Manson is still alive because
I mean, but it's like a bit though. I feel
like that's like a troll move on the Internet that
people do a lot, like they always want to be like,
don't you think he's writing the slot for someone? If
you heard it? Yeah, I'm not going to push back
on that. Yeah, yeah, I think I heard he died,
like when I was in high school, Like, I think
I heard it along that would go. There are some
facts I've retained him and him and Johnny Depp unsurprisingly,
(03:07):
who's aging brilliantly close friends to the point of having
matching back tattoos of what what am I some sort
of information machine? They just have ink And then also
he has a fear that his house will burn down
at anytime, so he has sounds like it's on the
(03:29):
more speculative side, but the listicals seem pretty authoritative. He's
got a fear of his house been down, so he
always has six with his pants around his ankles. He's
ready to pull up, literally pull up. Yeah you have
the funk out. Yeah wow, that sounds like can being
an excuse for just keeping your pants on because you
(03:50):
have just a sloppy dude. Yeah, you have weird ankles.
I know when I'm in the bedroom, I'm always looking
out for some ankle quirks. Let me see those come
out of the mood. Do you have any facts about
Twiggy Ramirez. I don't know who twiggered Twiggy, what Triggy
was in the in Marylyn Manson also he was the
(04:12):
bassist and guitarist. I think. Yeah, I'm shocked that you
don't have facts about Twiggy. I'm such a fan of Maryland.
Everyone in his orbit, as you know, barely a footnote
to what was the vibe like in New Zealand when
Marilyn Manson came out? Was that a big thing over there? Uh? Yeah,
I mean I think he had reached everywhere there was.
People saw him and he was representing something that they
(04:34):
weren't too. But I I came to him later, right,
I knew I didn't get caught up in all the
hoop plant, but certainly that rib removal self relating. There's
a global that was doing. Yeah, you talked to anyone
from a new country that was on the playground, right, Yeah,
he knew how to go viral even before the Internet.
Just say that you had a rib removed to blow yourself.
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What is something you think is overrated? I think it
probably runs against the eighth us of a pop culture podcast,
but I think like recommending stuff, recommendations of culture, of
cultural events or things to absorb, is overrated. Okay, so
everyone's got a mountain of work to get through already, right,
And I always feel like recommendations usually, like un least
they're specifically tailored for the person, which is occasionally the
(05:19):
More broadly speaking, it's usually just like a launch pad
for someone to just talk at you about something that's
been show. This is all about the news, baby, Yeah,
well wait till we get to our segments. What you're
watching on Netflix? Right? Yeah? I agree that that tends
to be just especially now because there's so much content
(05:43):
that it's just getting a recommendation. Even if it's convincing,
it's like stressful. It's like another assign to get through.
The Other thing I think is also kind of weird
is when people shame people for like, like, how have
you not seen that? It's like motherfucker, like you saying
there's so much media right now, there's no way I
can like prioritize all these other things and have a
life right anyway, leave it alone? Is it okay to
(06:06):
do that to people who haven't seen the wire? Oh?
Fuck yeah you should. You should beat them with their
own shoes. If what is something you think is underrated? Bags?
Having a bag, yeah when you leave the house. I
was very slow adopted to bags. I'd always just having
like I have a stuffed pockets. Yeah, but now, man,
you put so much stuff in there. You got free pockets.
(06:30):
You don't get that like weir and tear on your
on your big thick like middle aged wallet guys with
pads in it. So yeah, is the I just came
around to the bag life too, because my legs are bigger.
I would say, I'm a thick boy, that everything looks
like an outline on my pants. And like to the
point where I had a pair of jeans that my
(06:51):
phone outline just became like it funked up the die
some I'm all about bad life. Yeah, I have that
going on too, and jeans because I just wear I
have two pairs of pants that I just wear constantly.
I've got two piers of pencils. Yeah, but at least
you can rotate between the two of them. But then
like they start falling apart, and they fall apart, specifically
where my wallet hold just burns through. It's naturally the
(07:14):
most worn part of the rand. And if you like
anywhere about tin T shirts or shirts right, not even
get to notice that you've only got two piers of
I mean you've asted yourself now, yes I have. We
will cut that out. And finally, what is a myth?
What's something people think it's true you know to be false. Well,
it's it's fairly well known, but sort of. There's a
(07:36):
myth surrounding a Greek figure called day Dallas, who he
got on the love and the emphascists on the Yeah, yeah,
and him too. But anyway, Yeah, there's a rumor going around.
He got banished from Athens and went to Crete and eventually,
through circumstances, wound up building a labyrinth for a minotaur
(07:59):
and was prisoner in the town we're in. Him and
his young son Icarus crafted some wings from friends and wax,
I have heard that, and uh, it was like, don't
it was Sun? You said, don't you go tune to
the ocean and tuney of the sun in rumor is
a chorus flew to class? Yeah. No, my friend was
just telling me that it sounds like a lot of
bologny to me. That's my favorite execution of that's my
(08:25):
favorite myth busted this point legendary. All right, well that
was wonderful. Let's talk about what's happening in the news today.
And I don't even know how to pronounce one of
the words in this headline, but Fortnite is cause I
think the emot Yeah, those are things you can buy,
(08:49):
like so you can make your character do a dance
or whatever they call it a moat and yeah, so
a lot of people, especially Chance to Wrap I think
back in July, was like, hey, a lot of these
dances are just taking straight from hip pop or from
specific artists. There's no like credit or like sign of
any kind of compensation. A lot of people are whatever
is blah blah blah, But he has a point because
there's a few of the dances are very much specific
(09:12):
to artists, and Epic Games, the developer of Fortnite just
straight up took it. So if you don't know, I know,
I feel like everybody knows what Fortnite is at this point.
And if you know what the emotes are, you've probably
seen kids doing the floscin dance, which is from the
Backpack Kid, where I see constantly all the time. It's
it makes me a little disturb It's it disturbs me
(09:34):
a little bit. But there's one dance called Swipe It,
which is basically the rapper to Millie's signature dance, the
Millie Rock Okay, and they call it swipe it. Uh,
and then the shoot dances from a Blockboy JB video.
So to Millie is lawyered up and he's now suing
Epic Games for stealing his Millie Rock dance in the game. Uh,
(09:54):
and you know it's not We're not sure where the
lawsuit is gonna go, but apparently you can trademark a dance.
So according to the Copyright Act of nineteen seventy six,
you would be able to protect dances under copyright law.
So we'll see what happens. And he's not the only
person who's had a dance store and Donald Fazon, but
who did the poison dance in Scrubs? That just became
(10:15):
like the default dance in Fortnite too, And that was
a dance, like I don't know if it's necessarily hyper
specific to Donald Faison, although they're definitely using that specific
instance of him dancing to inspire the emote, But that
was something he just improvised on the set of Scrubs,
So I don't even think about that. But what is
the poison dance? It's more like him doing like the
(10:35):
running Man kind of thing like dancing too. I think,
who's the who's the guy who's alloyed up again? What's
his name to Millie? To Millie? Yeah, well he points
to to Millie. I reckon, that's great. Fortnite is probably
making enough scratch that they can afford to him. Yeah,
lawsuits coming in from the side saying, hey, stop checking
out dances. Yeah yeah, yeah, no seriously, And I mean, yeah,
(10:58):
it seems like they've made all the money. Oh, like
they're making billions of dollars. And again, a lot of
people like, yo, you're just mining black culture here and
you're putting that in there and just been like whatever,
that's like a thing you can buy and we'll profit
off of. So you know, I might want to take
a look at that again. And then I suppose the
envious argument the value and you know, the dance being
(11:18):
put in for Fortnite so ubiquitous. You know, it's like,
but who's tricing back the dance? Is that from the
video gamebody? Yeah? Yeah, exactly, Yeah, I'm sure that's the
argument they would like people to buy that. Well, we're
just publicizing your dance, so it's good for you, exposion,
come on to Millie exactly. But yeah, that one is
(11:39):
like his name is the Millie Rock. And yeah even
now that what is the Playboy CARDI song Magnolia is
all about in New York and Millie Rack. That's where
I've heard in that re rack saw the Milli Rock. Yeah, YopE,
he are you want to come out here? I can't
hear that without wanting that song to start. I can't
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think of like an equivalent example of something like people
trademarking a movement like yeah, I don't know. I wonder
if hammer mc hammer was smart enough to get in
front of that or Likenese typewriter or whatever, like I'm
sorry it wasn't called the Chinese typewriter. That's what I heard.
That's what it was coded linkage. It did sound problematically
(12:25):
Chinese typewriter. Yeah, who else? I think if you did
it in a Cantonese acting, it would have been that
would have been much best trying to take two. But no,
I think him who else may have? I mean, Michael
Jackson is probably only the only people I could think
of who had the grounds to try and copyrighted dance
right at the moonwalk. But he called that from uh
(12:47):
somebody did that on? I think no, not that one.
Oh yeah, that's the thing that I've never been impressed
because it doesn't look like the Neil Armstrong walk at all.
He was moving very slowly but using different gravitations to
really impress us. Michael Jackson moves through several mates and
one very lumbering band and CARDI being offset broke up.
(13:09):
Oh yeah, they broke up. I mean there were constantly
rumors swirling around that whilst pregnant, she was stepping out
on her and even like I think prior to that
that she was set on her yea, and that you
said she was no no, no, I mean, those are
the rumors that I kept hearing. Uh. And then you know,
she also had to kind of take some bullets for
(13:31):
him because he would use like homophobic slurs and things
like that, and like on Instagram, she just posted a
video that was just sort of like, hey, you know,
everybody's been bugging me and everything, Like we've been trying
to work things out and we're really good friends, but
it's we just fell out of love, I guess. And
then he commented in the on that post is like
y'all won yeah, Like I'm like, okay. I think he
(13:52):
was specifically talking about us because we have been rooting
very hard against ending up together. Reagan on the we yes,
no way will that ever work? It is that your
one directed the broader public? Or is that I I
must be because like you know, I guess the social
media Twitter sphere always has comments on everything, So I
(14:13):
guess that's or I don't know what acting as if did.
Was he trying to say that the people on social
media were forcing him to cheat on hers, Like that's
probably just hey, you know, he doesn't. He's basically advocating
it's responsibility. Right. It's sort of like the every NFL
team going into the playoffs is like nobody believes in us.
Nobody ever believed in us, like even the Patriots, or
(14:35):
like nobody believed we could win this. It's like, you
guys have won eight years in a row. What are
you talking about? Well, they're you know, they're young, they're
young people in love. So what what what could we
have expected? Yeah? Well I don't know if they're for
them to end done together? You know, well what I
have my heart? Yeah? Well I look Cardi, you know,
at me back on the market. Yeah, back out there.
(14:57):
So he's been I actually haven't been following their relation
and ship that closely, but he's been sort of problematic
Jackson maning their relationship. Yeah yeah a couple of times,
and like she was catching heat from like her lgbt
Q fans and stuff because he, you know, likes to
say ship that you shouldn't be saying in ever. Especially,
So what do we what do we think the effectiveness
(15:18):
of calling out the partner of the person who's you know,
perpetrating pejorative language. Well, I don't know if that was
hit up. How can you please stop using these homophobic
sliz Bret, it's really efn up my day. Yeah, I
mean I think it was just sort of heard. She
just I think as the attacks came from him, she
just was playing the role of protector and trying to
(15:40):
you know, take the arrows as it were. But yeah,
it just seemed like she has had it. And it's
funny too because in the past they would always post
like photos together looking like they were so in love
and things like that, or comment she would comment on
his She's like, I can't wait to see who it like.
It was really very transparent. You'd be like, oh wow,
but but I think we all know couples who you know, uh,
(16:02):
portray a public life on social media, and it's quite
another thing in practical that's a social savy social media
move is to comment. You know, if you've got a partner,
you might be excited to have sex with them, but
you'd usually send it, and you might send it in
a text or deem, but to do it in the comments,
you know, and it's going, Oh my gosh, what a
(16:24):
sixually explosive relationship. Nothing is private with these two. Just
did it again, guys posting to Twitter just every every time,
just not it. Oh yeah, another sex act with us. Well,
I hope you're happy the internet because y'all did it again. Y'all. One,
(16:45):
I think I might start blaming all of my any
any argument I have with my wife on the internet. One, yeah,
great against me. They're always not all right, We're gonna
take a quick break. We'll be right back, and we're back.
(17:08):
So I have two stories kicking us off right here
that sort of portray the span of where things stand
with the Trump and Muller investigation as far as in
my life and how I'm thinking about things. So on
one side, you have Trump latently obstructing justice and witness
tampering on Twitter like he's talking about how Michael Cohen
(17:31):
deserves to go to jail and serve a full and
complete sentence. Uh. He tweeted, I will never testify against Trump.
This statement was recently made by Roger Stone, essentially stating
that he will not be forced by a rogue and
out of control prosecutor to make up Liz and stories
about President Trump. Nice to know that some people still
have guts. And people were saying, Yo, that's basically a
(17:54):
crime to do that because you can't communicate that you're
like going to reward somebody for doing the thing you
want them to. Yeah, that is a prima faci witness
tampering so evident on its face that you're like, Okay,
he's just Donald Trump. He strikes me as more of
a um it's easy to ask for He doesn't even
(18:16):
ask for forgiveness, right, It doesn't seem like the sort
of guys seeking out permission, never know. Well, his whole
his whole thing is I never did it. I never
did it. And if you get him, you're like, you
did he goes, well, so what I was allowed? It
was cool and very leasal um. Yeah. And then on
the other hand, I'm seeing a lot of articles from
(18:38):
people I don't know if it's like pregame jitters or something,
but now that the Mueller Report is probably about to drop,
we're seeing a bunch of articles where it's people being like,
I don't know, five thirty eight road an article being like,
what if this is all we learned from the Mueller Report?
Is like, what has already broken? You know, well in
what sense like that even if it were fully released
(18:59):
to the public, like the knowledge they're in wouldn't be
that he's basically already yeah, that he's basically communicated everything
that he has evidence for. So he's communicated basically that
they definitely know that Russia interfered on Trump's behalf. They
have that, and they have that the people around Trump lied.
But there's not necessarily anything to indicate that they have
(19:23):
the Trump campaign colluding with Russia or that Trump but
they would, right if it were like if you look
go the Jerome Corsi Wiki leaks route, if you're a
fool enough to believe that Wiki Leaks isn't some arm
of Russian intelligence, and then they're feeding Jerome Corsi information,
who then gives it to Roger Stone. There's all sorts
of reasons that I thought that we had this guy
(19:47):
nailed to the wall. It's unrelenting those and it's been
the whole the whole news cycle since he started. Like
remember like a month or two month, many was like, Oh,
he's gonna it'll be impainched next month, and then it's
like just this constant shifting of the timeline expectations, and
now it feels like, I'd say the truth lies somewhere
in between where it's pregame nerves, where it's like, wow,
(20:07):
you know this is this is kind of quite a
big information jump that's hopefully canna have the impact we want.
And then also it's like, but realistically this will just
be another straw on a very frustratingly powerful camel's back. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Well I think five thirty eight though. Two they don't
want to start spiking football is quite yet, so I
think it behooves them to kind of be like, well,
let's let's ye know what's happened throughout due diligence. And
(20:29):
I know a lot of smart people who are skeptical
that the Muller investigation is going to be the thing
that delivers us from evil. For thine is a kingdom? Ye? Yeah,
should we just go into prayer right now? But yeah,
I mean there's also a piece of vanity fair just
from a you know, Trump hating Mueller investigation skeptic who
(20:52):
was just saying sort of how I feel in the
sense that there is this cycle of hype where it's
some piece of information and break somewhere like we got him,
that's it. Like now, because he's letting Cohen off for
recommending Cohen gets not much of a sentence, or with
Flynn because he's recommending that Flynn get not much of
a sentence, then he must have him on something. But
(21:15):
then that's sort of just fades. And I don't know, well,
I guess we're assuming that he's holding back all these
cards that are going to, you know, put together a
really compelling case, and I just don't know. Well, I
guess I think I've always tried to not let the
Muller investigation be my savior, like mentally, emotionally, because like
(21:36):
with all the other things that would have completely decimated
any other administration, seem to not work, and I'm like,
we're dealing with something different here. I think it's really
going to be up to the thing that I would
be most politically horny for is to see public sentiment
on the right actually change in one direction about this.
And that is what I feel like a little bit
(21:56):
just like, well, you know, he's going to have the
people on the right in office who were going to
basically protect him. But I wonder what it will take.
I guess the thing I would be excited about if
there were something that would be so just clear, even
if it is something we don't know, but it's just
the details of it became very clear. Were like, oh,
here are the dots connected that if you know what
to see what the response would be from the GOP.
But who knows. It's been a very like watching it
(22:19):
from from a farwers an outside has been a sort
of very slow adjustment of expectations on like how quickly
the Making Nations can tramp the huge the paper trail
of you know, the garbage that he's done. It's like
watching the American continents be like, we'll get him, We'll
get and he's like, well, we'll get you know, maybe
not today, but well not do's heye? You know, yeah,
we're eating away history will be the judge exactly. Uh.
(22:44):
And then we're like yeah, when he's like forever president,
like maybe we can send a time capsule into space.
And also on the subject of the GOP and in
a place where it seems like they might actually be fucked.
North Carolin Line, Yeah, yeah, what's happening literally District nine, yes,
you call it North Carolina's ninth congressional district. So we
(23:07):
talked about how there are tremendous voting irregularities in the
ninth district's congressional race between Mark Harris the Republican and Democrity,
where Mark Harris won by votes, but the Board of
Elections was not willing to certify because they're like, hold,
this is like really shady. There's so much evidence, like
like one of the things even that he got like
(23:30):
sixty percent of the absentee vote in the county, but
like only like I think of the mail in ballots
were requested by Republicans, so he like won over and
then just a wild number of Independence and Democrats apparently
by that math. But now, like as people have slowly
begin to put their eyes on this story and began
(23:51):
asking questions, we're getting more and more details because so
from up top we saw that it seemed like they
were a group of eight people, one of the big
smoking gun things with the eight P bull were signing
on as witnesses to people's ballots, which you need to
sort of be like, Okay, this person like it was
in witness of these other people, we can say that
this was like a proper ballot or whatever. That it
was like eight people who were the witnesses, like like
(24:12):
a hundred thirty ballots or something like that. And now
some reporters, I think local news people went around and
found tried to track down these eight people to try
and see, like, okay, what's at the heart of this.
They spoke with two people, uh, and these women were
like obviously just people who this guy dug up to
go around and steal people's ballots, essentially because they asked, hey,
(24:33):
so what do you know about your work with this
GOP operative, this consultant Leslie McCrae Dallas. And they're like, well,
you know, I was just paid to go to I
had a list of addresses. I would push for them
to maybe support the candidate Mark Harris or the sheriff McVicker. Uh,
and then I would take their ballot and then I
wouldn't mail it off or whatever. I would just give
(24:54):
it back to Dallas. And then I don't know what happened.
And they're like, not even an effort to cover up
what they we don't believe there's idiotic that. They're just
like we just I just did told no. Well, yeah,
when I think these people were because they didn't. They're like,
you know, you can't do They're like, I didn't know.
They were paying me like a hundred bucks a week
to do this, so clearly it wasn't even like the
(25:14):
kind of pay that you give people. You're like, yo,
what we're doing is wildly illegal, right, so sunk up.
If you got to know, tell you whatever you knew.
But this starts to be going to the table. A
lot of these people were like distant relatives of him.
His stepdaughter has been implicated in it too, where she
denied it. When they asked for comment, they're like, but
we have like affidavits from people who when we showed
(25:35):
them your photo they said, yeah, that was the woman
who came to get the thing. But again, hey, it
gets shadier and shadier. And then BuzzFeed published an article
I think yesterday or the day before that gives a
sort of like a peek into the inner workings of
this thing, where I guess this guy, you know, he
was getting a lot of cash from the candidate. Mark
Harrison was just using cash to pay these people to
(25:55):
go pick him up. And so the candidate himself was
giving him he was paying because he was a consultant
and then men and there are a few other people
on that ticket. I'm sure the sheriff McVicker was also
using him as well, because I don't think he was
just having them, you know, be endorsed or have the
people who are picking up the bouts name check him
when they're like police support Mark Harrison, Triff mcficker. So
in this thing, they were saying like a lot of people,
(26:17):
like even the people that were working on it, like
some were like addicted to opioids. Like there's our quote
from this BuzzFeed articles. Said one workers. She said was
so fucking high the other day she passed out at
the fucking computer. One of the workers who collected absentee
ballots from residents was a quote pill head, she said.
And then they go on to sort of saying this
woman they spoke to you said, my job at the
office was I read emails and I counted how many Republicans,
(26:39):
Democrats and non affiliated people voted every day. I added
up how many voted that day, wrote it on a
piece of paper. Then they read it, and then I
don't know what they did with it. And then so
they were like tracking stuff maybe two like you know,
adjust what the levels of shenanigans that were occurring. For
lack of a better word, there, yeah, simply, I guess
it's haying. Fuckery is one we use a lot um.
(27:02):
And then one of the women also said that they
had received money from the county well when BuzzFeed couldn't
verify that, but when they asked someone who worked at
the Board of Elections, one of the supervisors, like the
woman who would have been able to answer that question,
she just, like surprise, resigned last week, like a month early.
I think her term was supposed to go to the
end of the year. So there's just a lot. It's
(27:23):
just the evidence is like mounting more and more, and
now you have people who are straight up saying like, yeah,
I went and got those ballots and I gave it
to this person, right. It's it's exhausting, like the ship
volume and intricacies of the ways in which people are
doing shady stuff like across not just on a nationwide
level but like local but you know, like in stint politics,
(27:44):
and it's I don't even know how you guys can
rap your I mean, you do a grand job, but
rape your hids around. Just the ship volume of factory
that appears to be hitting it every fundamental level of Yeah,
it's it's I don't know, I just look at the news. Wow,
we're really we're going there. And every state has been
doing that, like like we talked about in Wisconsin, the
(28:05):
state Assembly, they're basically completely kneecapped the powers of the
incoming democratic governor. They're trying to pull the same ship
in Ohio and Michigan they did in North Carolina. So
their new tactic is just cheat by fucking any means necessary. Now, Yeah,
and they're like finding like not loopholes. It's just that
I guess there weren't statutes written because people assumed that
(28:27):
we were going to at the very least respect the
structures of government, and then whoever is voted in because
it's a democracy, would rule in that sense. But it's
a I don't know that. I mean, these should be
massive scandals across the country because I still can't believe
the ship that's going on. Yeah, and the mainstream media
when it comes to stuff like this, For instance, with
the Wisconsin thing, I think there was a New York
(28:49):
Times headline the other day that was, like, Wisconsin Republicans
moved to shore up power as like two undercut democrats
as come in. It's just like that's not really what
Like they're basically trying to change the rules of democracy, right,
Like uh, it would be like if I robbed a
bank and it's like man augments wealthy, done right. Yeah.
(29:14):
It seems like when it comes to very foundational assumptions
that the whole society and culture rests on, the mainstream
media doesn't like to like look too closely at that ship. Well,
I guess they don't want to be I think it's
the fear of being accused of them being rabble rousers
by merely reporting on you know what I mean, Because
there is that fear of the right thing that we've
(29:35):
seen in the media play out a lot. But I
don't know, maybe it's just we just don't have proper journalists.
There's a kind of blank you know, the volume and
number of ways in which the entire government are doing
you know, dodgy stuff. It's like it's so much noise
and smoke that it kind of masks like a lot
of the lower Like, you know, it's hard, it's hard
(29:57):
for people to maintain interests and Mike staff to speed
with I mean, you know, like yeah, yeah, it's very
it almost works like all the dodges ship that is
going on at the top level. It's like almost masks
you know. Yeah, all the delightfully shaddy stuff going down
amongst the weeds. Yeah, because the whole buildings aren't fair
and you're like, which fool or should we pay it
to the whole buildings? Does New Zealand work as a society? Yeah,
(30:23):
it's it's it's functional, it's stripped back. Yeah, it appears
to be a slightly more skeletal sort of framework by
which we were buying. There's less of us, and we've
both of our governments are fairly central, like there's not
this huge chasm will divide between right and left as
there is here right now. Wasn't there a president who
like to yanko girls plonytails? Yeah, yeah there was. Yeah,
(30:47):
there's our previous five minutes guy John Kie, who was
very well liked in charge for just shy of nine years.
As a story that yeah, he he was outed for.
He would go to like a local cafe and there
was this a white stuff and he sort of thought
he had quite an enjoyable not flirtatious but you know,
(31:09):
like almost rambunctious relationship with where he thought it was
funny or cool to yank on her pony towel. She
was like, was it's the prime minister? Also, it's like
you just it's such an eccentric behavior, Like no right
thinking person in the world would be like, oh, yeah,
was he married? Yeah, yeah, so he must have like
that sounds very juvenile like that, he must have been
(31:31):
doing that for you. Well, so then it turned out
there were other instances where he had been captured on
camera yanking on woman's Yeah, but it's like that's exactly
part of how it was framed and what made him
appealing and like, you know, mask anything of genuine interest
he was doing was because his outwards facing character was
this like idiotic Larkin who loved to ham it up
(31:52):
and would do all this like dopey ship like that,
which kind of undercuts our intelligent He was, you know,
the furious man you catch up man, our presidents grabbing
people by the genitals. Yeah, that's much more charming the
ponytail thing. Yeah, yeah, and those people. If it was
a binary choice, I would go with that one. All right,
(32:14):
we're gonna take another quick break. We'll be right back,
and we're back. And so a bunch of European and
American doctors and scientists have come out with a study
(32:35):
that proves to me once and for all that those
specific doctors and scientists have mental problems. This is a
very very controversial study, one in which were they're trying
to tell us Americans that potatoes ranked near the bottom
of healthful vegetables and lack the compounds and nutrients found
in green leafy vegetables, and that if you take up potato,
(32:58):
remove its skin where I guess the nutrients are around,
cut it and deep fry the pieces and oil and
top it off all with salt and all this other ship,
that that is a starch bomb that could be quote
a weapon of dietary destruction. They are fucking sick people.
They're saying French fries are bad. Yeah, I mean, yeah,
I know, come on, but but take your head out, man.
(33:21):
They specifically suggest that you eat only six French fries
per serving, which seems like they don't know what French
fries are. You binge eat them until even when they're cold,
you just keep shoving them into your face. Hole. Yeah, yeah,
I mean, I guess, I guess I always did wonder
because there were so many studies being like, if you
want to eat something that has like a nutritional negative,
(33:44):
eat French fries or whatever. But I was like, well,
then what's the rub here? I guess six French fries
and then maybe some salad. And you can imagine the
pool research assistant who has tasked with rinding up the
findings and the one who's like six ft yeah, finding
out like six French rice. How can you type that
out with it's absolutely it's out of madness, Yeah, it
(34:05):
really is. It doesn't make any sense. I mean, it's
it's I don't know what to say. It just makes
my skin crawl. The science wheel has been flip flowering
on potatoes for a long a long time. You know,
it's always like it's potatoes and bread can't be foods.
You're like, oh, you gotta eat lots of bread. Yeah,
you know a week later you better lay off the bread. Yeah,
(34:26):
you too much bread from a week ago, because it's
really bad. Pretty consistent on the no starch thing for
the past like a couple of decades. And but you
know how many they say the average American needs a
hundred fifteen pounds of potatoes a year. Two thirds of
that usually come in the form of fries, potato chrups,
or frozen or protests potato products. I mean, what the look,
(34:49):
we haven't in the good old days of just going
into a raw skin on potato like an apple. Can
get to this point where by two thirds of the
potatoes we consume have been refined. Yeah, just rock potatoes,
that's what I say. I don't, I don't know, man,
Like I said much in the same way that and
as del Mar couldn't quit Jack twist, I can't quit
these motherfucking fries. I think it's a job. It's on
(35:12):
marketing now, you know. Yeah, it's up to the big
fast food conglomerates to to reframe the way that they
prepare and sell the potatoes. But you know, happy meals
they subbed out fries for fruit. What about a third option,
which is just a small, dirty baby potato, baby potato,
That is the health option. Yeah, I love fries, but
(35:35):
they say, yeah, if you eat fries two to three
times a week, you you definitely increase your die your
risk for mortality. But I think we're all at risk
of and your chance of living your best life. Also
shoots right up the rest of the happening. Exactly, are
you a bigger fry chips fan? I'm your worst nightmare
is a dining companion. Regards to France, I'm like, oh, no, no, no,
(35:57):
I won't order a bottle of fries. Then someone else
in it will be does, and I'm like, I'm gonna
have a couple of right, Yeah I counted him out.
Yeah yeah. So what is your what is your fast food?
Do you have a fast food sort of secret something
you love? No? Well, no, I no, I don't really.
I don't really miss around with fast food too much.
I'm a vegetarian, which sort of means that immediately counts
(36:20):
a lot of that from your Yeah, your sphere. I'm
still a sucker for McDonald's breakfast if I'm ever at
the airport. The McDonald's an't so prevalent of American airports,
but in New Zealand they're They're always there, and it's
like if I have been flying before ten thirty. Although
we just got twenty for our breakfast. But for a
long time, I was always like, oh, well, you know,
I'm going to be getting an egg McMuffin and the
hash brown I'm gonna put the hash brown in the
(36:42):
muffin and then put some Tommy sauce on the bloody
hash brow. Who what's us Tommy tomato sauce? Oh there,
we got Tommy there? What's the Kiwi fast food? Like
it's the same. We just inherited all of your biggest
There's no there's no like uniquely New Zealand fast food. No,
there's like a there's a sort of there was a
(37:03):
run for a while of like slightly more upscale burger
chains which got a lot of traction. But by and large,
we just we took what we were given from you guys.
Is there anything that doesn't translate that people just don't
like in New Zealand? That's huge? Starbucks? Good fun Starbucks? Yeah, good?
Moving on. I think Starbucks tanked in Australia as well.
(37:25):
Huh it was we there's a real bit of coffee
snobbery going on in the interesting Just you guys still
drink coffee. It's just you don't. You got to You
gotta like a specific cafe, right, a place that doesn't
burn the ship out of it. And it's right. Yeah, alright, guys,
let's talk Christmas music. Um, so apparently Baby It's Cold
(37:46):
Outside has been sort of put out to pasture apparently. Yeah. Yeah,
So this is something that I feel like we were
talking about for a long time at Cracked, and I
think basically this was a standard internet comedy observation that
that song is basically dramatizing a date rape of one
(38:09):
man or another. And so radio stations in Canada have
stopped playing it all together. And Piers Morgan, our greatest
cultural commentator, worst fucking arsenal fan tea, I would just
stop being a fan of that team, trust me, if
I know, I can't. If you bigger than what's bigger
(38:30):
than one asshole? Right, there's a joke there, but hard.
So he basically told a woman came on and was like, yeah,
but it just really seems offensive and like he's not
respecting her agency. And Piers Morgan to demonstrate that he
(38:54):
got what she was saying, told her to shut up.
So that was but it sounds like really got the
message on listening to a woman. Yeah, yeah, And so
apparently when it was written, it was written in the
forties and performed by a husband and wife and at
that time, there are a couple ways that you can
look at how the various phrases are taken now versus
(39:18):
how they were originally meant, and it is culturally different.
Like what's in this drink is a thing that somebody
would say if they be draped. No, no, not if
they've been date raped, if they ration might iteration, But
back then it was a way to like excuse your
own behavior, to be like, oh, what's in this drink?
(39:39):
I'm you know, like if you don't have the vocabulary
for date rape yet, right, And they were also saying
that in the original version, it was understood that the
girl wanted to stay, but she didn't want her reputation
tarnished by staying, and that there's that's how it was
originally taken. But regardless, it now reads to anybody who
(40:02):
listens to it that is under the age of seventy five,
as a song in which a man is not respecting
the agency of a woman who is like, I'd really
rather leave. The real loss is the malady. Yeah it's
a beautiful melody. Yeah, it is a fund melody. Well,
then maybe we'll just have to someone will have to
take that melody and then just to give it an update. Yeah,
(40:22):
let's just ask Peter to rewrite that song because Peter
has been rewriting just old old phrases, like Peter that
people will kill two birds with a Yeah, killed two
birds with one stone is feed two birds with one stone,
which doesn't mean the same thing. You gotta you gotta
pick a side, Peter. It kind of like it's either
(40:44):
an equivalency or it's like it's something that sounds similar,
but they've like straddled both to create pure just absolutely
does it beat a dead horse or something like feed
a fed horse? Yeah, it gives a little superfluent it's
a little redundant. Actually feeder horse more than six French friends. So,
(41:08):
like I said, some radio stations have just officially retired
it said, we're not going to play it this year,
and it is I mean, Christmas is the time where
suddenly all these songs from the forties start appearing on
like pop radio stations, and they've just decided to retire this.
And this brought up the question of like what if
we just started retiring a Christmas song every year. Our
(41:30):
writer Jan McNabb suggested that as a yeah, and maybe
you induct a new song into the cannon. The cannon
and cannon can on a on a similar or nights. Sorry,
there's a British comic named Rumish Ranganathan who uh he
proposed the rules for something called wa Mgeddon. What have
(41:51):
you heard of? Wagner? So the basic rules. The first
rule is the objective is to go as long as
possible without hearing Wham's Christmas Classic Class Christmas. That's right.
The second rule is the game starts as soon as
December is upon us, where mgeddon is also upon it's
and it ends you know, as the bell told on
Christmas Eve. The third rule, only the original version of
(42:13):
the song is eligible for the where mcgeddon, so remixes
and whatnot are okay. And then the fourth rule, which
is the sort of the most intriguing part, as you
are as soon as you hear the song, you are
eliminated from where mcgeddon. So it's sort of like, you know,
it's it's it's a it's trying to build a community
of people, you know, because you're trying to avoid hearing
(42:34):
that song absolutely. But then you sort of you you
like fold people into the world of where mcgeddon. So
you tell a significant other all your friends to start
playing it and then you find creative ways to have
them stumble, you know, if you don't want to leave
it up to the gods. Set people up. Yeah, Like
if you've got a phone connected to a Bluetooth speaker
in another room in the house, you're playing where mcgeddon
(42:55):
and they go out to do something and you go bang.
You're listening to Last Christmas, or it's like a Suss
bomb where you just play it for the whole take
out a whole house of everybody. If I can't be
all powerful like a god, I will destroy like a guy.
So what do you think of that song? Because that
was actually a controversial pick. We we were talking about
(43:16):
which songs we'd retire. Super producer Nick Stump I think
had my favorite suggestion, which is rocking around the Christmas Tree.
I love that jazz guitar, those little licks. Yeah, yeah,
I would say twelve Days of Christmas, I'm to go
the funk away. Although I could just listen to song
that went five Golden Rings. That's my favorite part of
(43:39):
the song. Just have somebody rap over this, but it's
just so repetitive that that's one that I have listened
to this year with my son and be like, man,
this is bad music. Yeah, this is so fucking bad.
I guess you could give it like the c I
A trying to like smoke you out of your whole test,
Like if you blasted it on loop, like the one
(44:00):
that would just make you break first, I could see
that actually melting. Yeah, because that song, by its very definition,
by its construction, is on loop. Because you hear whatever,
then I feel like, come December, it's just free rain.
You know, Christmas music can can have his way with
the wicked world. Yeah, but I think an outright ben
(44:21):
you know, January through November is sort of the most Yeah.
I think that's fair. Yeah, yeah, it's the most humane
way to What is your favorite Christmas song? I like,
what is it like Sam Cook who sings though it's
been said many times, many ways? Or is that a
nacking coal? I think it might be nicking might I
(44:41):
might have added myself. Ye, well there's I mean, it's
it's been done by many Yeah, it's it's it's it's
you know. I love that song. Yeah, Mariah Kerry, I
think gets a lot of got a lot of votes
in our office as a as a song as we
shouldn't be a sick person in the office tried to
throw that one on the fire. We said, absolutely not.
You stay away from Mariah. One of mine is I
(45:03):
think we all found out is the Vince Quarre reality
trio of Christmas Times here from the Charlie Brown Christmas favorite.
That's that's cannon for sure. I think we can get
rid of any of the songs that talk about sucking Santa. Yes,
I saw Mommy kissing Santa Claus. Also Santa Baby could
maybe go it implies, I don't know, it's it is
(45:24):
another good melody, though. Yeah, God, seeing that this is
this is the problem. You know. We love the melodies, Yeah,
exchange lyrics. So but what so you you don't like
to think of Sandra's a sexual being songs? One time
I saw Santa sucking my mom. It was at the
mall in the loading dock area, and I was very upset. Why. Yeah,
this this qualifies the opinion question any other questions. Guy,
(45:49):
So it's just such an unlikely trigger, right, I didn't
know what I was, man, That's part of the getting
to know each other process. Guy, It's been a pleasure
of having you, ma'am. Hey, yeah, thanks so much. A
wonderful time. Where can people find you at Guy underscore
Mont on Twitter and Instagram. It's probably the most guaranteed
means of sourcing me. Yeah, all right, And is there
(46:13):
a tweet that you've been enjoying? Ah? Yes, Actually, when
we were just coming in, I saw what I thought
was a funny and timely tweet which was not gonna lie.
This got me choked up. And then it's an image
of George W. Bush and quotations as though this is
why he said while eulogizing has recently passed father, and
(46:33):
it says he wasn't just the forty one president of
the United States, he was also the forty one president
of my dad. He's also the party of a friend
of my dad. Miles where Yeah, where people find Twitter
and Instagram at Miles of Grace and please I like
(46:55):
they come from Reductress as usual. One is just says
it's a woman in this like really picturesque winter setting
with a nice coat on. It's is four dramatic coats
that will have people like, oh no, here she comes, uh.
And another one that says it looks like just a
nice older mom wearing a T shirt with a kind
of concerned look on her face and says obsessed much
(47:16):
this mom wants to know of her daughters alive. I
could not find another tweet about bootcut jeans unfortunately, Uh.
Pixelated Boat tweeted Wow the Captain Marvel trailer proves once
again that Marvel is at the forefront of making movies.
I might watch on a plane in four years, which
is how I consume most Marvel movies the way God
(47:38):
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Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season sixty, Episode four.
Up there, Daily's eight Guys, the podcast where we take
a deep dive into America's share consciousness using the headlines,
box office reports, TV ratings, and what's trending on Google
and social med It's Thursday, December six, two th team.
My name is Jack O'Brien. A kay, I'm going going
Jack Jack O'Brien Brian courtesy of Christi Yamagucci Main and
(00:24):
I'm thrilled to be joined as always buy my co host,
Mr Miles Great. I said, do you speak of Miles language?
He just smiled and gave me a bit of Miles sandwich.
Oh and I just came up with that one on
the spot because I'm so stoked for what is in
the building right now. Yeah, We're thrilled to have in
their thirds the hilarious comedian Guy Montgomery. Hello, fellas, Hello
(00:51):
might here finally Yeah, you see it, brother, we'll swap
accents later, I think it sure. Uh, Well, it's great
to have you here, uh here in the States and
in the studio. We're going to get to know you
a little bit better in a moment. First, we're gonna
tell our listeners. What we're gonna be talking about. We're
(01:13):
gonna talk about Fortnite. We're gonna talk about Cardi bing,
Offset breaking up. So we're gonna talk Trump ship, Mueller ship,
you know, all that stuff. Well, we'll get to it all,
but first we like to ask our guests, guy, what
is something from your search history that's revealing about who
you are? As well? Quite recently, I was I was
(01:33):
actually doing some comedy here in Los Angeles, California, the
very city that we're presently in, thank you, and the
hosts were that were riffing around, uh, you know, talking
about whatever they wanted to. Can you believe it? They
in the middle of one of them was on a
computer during the riff it was and they see it.
(01:55):
Marilyn Manson has um died oh ship. And then I
was like, I was backstage when to go on, and
I was like, oh, whoa, because that's you know, you
believe that if someone just told you yeah, and you
must have been gutted when you heard yeah. Obviously you
can tell by the T shirt in the face pant
based on your look pretty deep in the Marilyn Manson,
(02:19):
you know, fan world. But anyways, crawled into the room back.
I immediately wanted to verify it, so I looked it
up and he was He's still alive. But then suddenly
I was like, after the show, I was like, that's right,
Marilyn Manson isn't just alive, but he's you know, he's
out there doing stuff. So I googled Marilyn Manson facts. Yeah,
just to sort of you know, so that was my
most recent Google from like, uh, guy, you're really dating
(02:42):
the podcast, I say, Marilyn Manson is still alive because
I mean, but it's like a bit though. I feel
like that's like a troll move on the Internet that
people do a lot, like they always want to be like,
don't you think he's writing the slot for someone? If
you heard it? Yeah, I'm not going to push back
on that. Yeah, yeah, I think I heard he died,
like when I was in high school, Like, I think
I heard it along that would go. There are some
facts I've retained him and him and Johnny Depp unsurprisingly,
(03:07):
who's aging brilliantly close friends to the point of having
matching back tattoos of what what am I some sort
of information machine? They just have ink And then also
he has a fear that his house will burn down
at anytime, so he has sounds like it's on the
(03:29):
more speculative side, but the listicals seem pretty authoritative. He's
got a fear of his house been down, so he
always has six with his pants around his ankles. He's
ready to pull up, literally pull up. Yeah you have
the funk out. Yeah wow, that sounds like can being
an excuse for just keeping your pants on because you
(03:50):
have just a sloppy dude. Yeah, you have weird ankles.
I know when I'm in the bedroom, I'm always looking
out for some ankle quirks. Let me see those come
out of the mood. Do you have any facts about
Twiggy Ramirez. I don't know who twiggered Twiggy, what Triggy
was in the in Marylyn Manson also he was the
(04:12):
bassist and guitarist. I think. Yeah, I'm shocked that you
don't have facts about Twiggy. I'm such a fan of Maryland.
Everyone in his orbit, as you know, barely a footnote
to what was the vibe like in New Zealand when
Marilyn Manson came out? Was that a big thing over there? Uh? Yeah,
I mean I think he had reached everywhere there was.
People saw him and he was representing something that they
(04:34):
weren't too. But I I came to him later, right,
I knew I didn't get caught up in all the
hoop plant, but certainly that rib removal self relating. There's
a global that was doing. Yeah, you talked to anyone
from a new country that was on the playground, right, Yeah,
he knew how to go viral even before the Internet.
Just say that you had a rib removed to blow yourself.
(04:56):
What is something you think is overrated? I think it
probably runs against the eighth us of a pop culture podcast,
but I think like recommending stuff, recommendations of culture, of
cultural events or things to absorb, is overrated. Okay, so
everyone's got a mountain of work to get through already, right,
And I always feel like recommendations usually, like un least
they're specifically tailored for the person, which is occasionally the
(05:19):
More broadly speaking, it's usually just like a launch pad
for someone to just talk at you about something that's
been show. This is all about the news, baby, Yeah,
well wait till we get to our segments. What you're
watching on Netflix? Right? Yeah? I agree that that tends
to be just especially now because there's so much content
(05:43):
that it's just getting a recommendation. Even if it's convincing,
it's like stressful. It's like another assign to get through.
The Other thing I think is also kind of weird
is when people shame people for like, like, how have
you not seen that? It's like motherfucker, like you saying
there's so much media right now, there's no way I
can like prioritize all these other things and have a
life right anyway, leave it alone? Is it okay to
(06:06):
do that to people who haven't seen the wire? Oh?
Fuck yeah you should. You should beat them with their
own shoes. If what is something you think is underrated? Bags?
Having a bag, yeah when you leave the house. I
was very slow adopted to bags. I'd always just having
like I have a stuffed pockets. Yeah, but now, man,
you put so much stuff in there. You got free pockets.
(06:30):
You don't get that like weir and tear on your
on your big thick like middle aged wallet guys with
pads in it. So yeah, is the I just came
around to the bag life too, because my legs are bigger.
I would say, I'm a thick boy, that everything looks
like an outline on my pants. And like to the
point where I had a pair of jeans that my
(06:51):
phone outline just became like it funked up the die
some I'm all about bad life. Yeah, I have that
going on too, and jeans because I just wear I
have two pairs of pants that I just wear constantly.
I've got two piers of pencils. Yeah, but at least
you can rotate between the two of them. But then
like they start falling apart, and they fall apart, specifically
where my wallet hold just burns through. It's naturally the
(07:14):
most worn part of the rand. And if you like
anywhere about tin T shirts or shirts right, not even
get to notice that you've only got two piers of
I mean you've asted yourself now, yes I have. We
will cut that out. And finally, what is a myth?
What's something people think it's true you know to be false. Well,
it's it's fairly well known, but sort of. There's a
(07:36):
myth surrounding a Greek figure called day Dallas, who he
got on the love and the emphascists on the Yeah, yeah,
and him too. But anyway, Yeah, there's a rumor going around.
He got banished from Athens and went to Crete and eventually,
through circumstances, wound up building a labyrinth for a minotaur
(07:59):
and was prisoner in the town we're in. Him and
his young son Icarus crafted some wings from friends and wax,
I have heard that, and uh, it was like, don't
it was Sun? You said, don't you go tune to
the ocean and tuney of the sun in rumor is
a chorus flew to class? Yeah. No, my friend was
just telling me that it sounds like a lot of
bologny to me. That's my favorite execution of that's my
(08:25):
favorite myth busted this point legendary. All right, well that
was wonderful. Let's talk about what's happening in the news today.
And I don't even know how to pronounce one of
the words in this headline, but Fortnite is cause I
think the emot Yeah, those are things you can buy,
(08:49):
like so you can make your character do a dance
or whatever they call it a moat and yeah, so
a lot of people, especially Chance to Wrap I think
back in July, was like, hey, a lot of these
dances are just taking straight from hip pop or from
specific artists. There's no like credit or like sign of
any kind of compensation. A lot of people are whatever
is blah blah blah, But he has a point because
there's a few of the dances are very much specific
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to artists, and Epic Games, the developer of Fortnite just
straight up took it. So if you don't know, I know,
I feel like everybody knows what Fortnite is at this point.
And if you know what the emotes are, you've probably
seen kids doing the floscin dance, which is from the
Backpack Kid, where I see constantly all the time. It's
it makes me a little disturb It's it disturbs me
(09:34):
a little bit. But there's one dance called Swipe It,
which is basically the rapper to Millie's signature dance, the
Millie Rock Okay, and they call it swipe it. Uh,
and then the shoot dances from a Blockboy JB video.
So to Millie is lawyered up and he's now suing
Epic Games for stealing his Millie Rock dance in the game. Uh,
(09:54):
and you know it's not We're not sure where the
lawsuit is gonna go, but apparently you can trademark a dance.
So according to the Copyright Act of nineteen seventy six,
you would be able to protect dances under copyright law.
So we'll see what happens. And he's not the only
person who's had a dance store and Donald Fazon, but
who did the poison dance in Scrubs? That just became
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like the default dance in Fortnite too, And that was
a dance, like I don't know if it's necessarily hyper
specific to Donald Faison, although they're definitely using that specific
instance of him dancing to inspire the emote, But that
was something he just improvised on the set of Scrubs,
So I don't even think about that. But what is
the poison dance? It's more like him doing like the
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running Man kind of thing like dancing too. I think,
who's the who's the guy who's alloyed up again? What's
his name to Millie? To Millie? Yeah, well he points
to to Millie. I reckon, that's great. Fortnite is probably
making enough scratch that they can afford to him. Yeah,
lawsuits coming in from the side saying, hey, stop checking
out dances. Yeah yeah, yeah, no seriously, And I mean, yeah,
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it seems like they've made all the money. Oh, like
they're making billions of dollars. And again, a lot of
people like, yo, you're just mining black culture here and
you're putting that in there and just been like whatever,
that's like a thing you can buy and we'll profit
off of. So you know, I might want to take
a look at that again. And then I suppose the
envious argument the value and you know, the dance being
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put in for Fortnite so ubiquitous. You know, it's like,
but who's tricing back the dance? Is that from the
video gamebody? Yeah? Yeah, exactly, Yeah, I'm sure that's the
argument they would like people to buy that. Well, we're
just publicizing your dance, so it's good for you, exposion,
come on to Millie exactly. But yeah, that one is
(11:39):
like his name is the Millie Rock. And yeah even
now that what is the Playboy CARDI song Magnolia is
all about in New York and Millie Rack. That's where
I've heard in that re rack saw the Milli Rock. Yeah, YopE,
he are you want to come out here? I can't
hear that without wanting that song to start. I can't
(12:00):
think of like an equivalent example of something like people
trademarking a movement like yeah, I don't know. I wonder
if hammer mc hammer was smart enough to get in
front of that or Likenese typewriter or whatever, like I'm
sorry it wasn't called the Chinese typewriter. That's what I heard.
That's what it was coded linkage. It did sound problematically
(12:25):
Chinese typewriter. Yeah, who else? I think if you did
it in a Cantonese acting, it would have been that
would have been much best trying to take two. But no,
I think him who else may have? I mean, Michael
Jackson is probably only the only people I could think
of who had the grounds to try and copyrighted dance
right at the moonwalk. But he called that from uh
(12:47):
somebody did that on? I think no, not that one.
Oh yeah, that's the thing that I've never been impressed
because it doesn't look like the Neil Armstrong walk at all.
He was moving very slowly but using different gravitations to
really impress us. Michael Jackson moves through several mates and
one very lumbering band and CARDI being offset broke up.
(13:09):
Oh yeah, they broke up. I mean there were constantly
rumors swirling around that whilst pregnant, she was stepping out
on her and even like I think prior to that
that she was set on her yea, and that you
said she was no no, no, I mean, those are
the rumors that I kept hearing. Uh. And then you know,
she also had to kind of take some bullets for
(13:31):
him because he would use like homophobic slurs and things
like that, and like on Instagram, she just posted a
video that was just sort of like, hey, you know,
everybody's been bugging me and everything, Like we've been trying
to work things out and we're really good friends, but
it's we just fell out of love, I guess. And
then he commented in the on that post is like
y'all won yeah, Like I'm like, okay. I think he
(13:52):
was specifically talking about us because we have been rooting
very hard against ending up together. Reagan on the we yes,
no way will that ever work? It is that your
one directed the broader public? Or is that I I
must be because like you know, I guess the social
media Twitter sphere always has comments on everything, So I
(14:13):
guess that's or I don't know what acting as if did.
Was he trying to say that the people on social
media were forcing him to cheat on hers, Like that's
probably just hey, you know, he doesn't. He's basically advocating
it's responsibility. Right. It's sort of like the every NFL
team going into the playoffs is like nobody believes in us.
Nobody ever believed in us, like even the Patriots, or
(14:35):
like nobody believed we could win this. It's like, you
guys have won eight years in a row. What are
you talking about? Well, they're you know, they're young, they're
young people in love. So what what what could we
have expected? Yeah? Well I don't know if they're for
them to end done together? You know, well what I
have my heart? Yeah? Well I look Cardi, you know,
at me back on the market. Yeah, back out there.
(14:57):
So he's been I actually haven't been following their relation
and ship that closely, but he's been sort of problematic
Jackson maning their relationship. Yeah yeah a couple of times,
and like she was catching heat from like her lgbt
Q fans and stuff because he, you know, likes to
say ship that you shouldn't be saying in ever. Especially,
So what do we what do we think the effectiveness
(15:18):
of calling out the partner of the person who's you know,
perpetrating pejorative language. Well, I don't know if that was
hit up. How can you please stop using these homophobic
sliz Bret, it's really efn up my day. Yeah, I
mean I think it was just sort of heard. She
just I think as the attacks came from him, she
just was playing the role of protector and trying to
(15:40):
you know, take the arrows as it were. But yeah,
it just seemed like she has had it. And it's
funny too because in the past they would always post
like photos together looking like they were so in love
and things like that, or comment she would comment on
his She's like, I can't wait to see who it like.
It was really very transparent. You'd be like, oh wow,
but but I think we all know couples who you know, uh,
(16:02):
portray a public life on social media, and it's quite
another thing in practical that's a social savy social media
move is to comment. You know, if you've got a partner,
you might be excited to have sex with them, but
you'd usually send it, and you might send it in
a text or deem, but to do it in the comments,
you know, and it's going, Oh my gosh, what a
(16:24):
sixually explosive relationship. Nothing is private with these two. Just
did it again, guys posting to Twitter just every every time,
just not it. Oh yeah, another sex act with us. Well,
I hope you're happy the internet because y'all did it again. Y'all. One,
(16:45):
I think I might start blaming all of my any
any argument I have with my wife on the internet. One, yeah,
great against me. They're always not all right, We're gonna
take a quick break. We'll be right back, and we're back.
(17:08):
So I have two stories kicking us off right here
that sort of portray the span of where things stand
with the Trump and Muller investigation as far as in
my life and how I'm thinking about things. So on
one side, you have Trump latently obstructing justice and witness
tampering on Twitter like he's talking about how Michael Cohen
(17:31):
deserves to go to jail and serve a full and
complete sentence. Uh. He tweeted, I will never testify against Trump.
This statement was recently made by Roger Stone, essentially stating
that he will not be forced by a rogue and
out of control prosecutor to make up Liz and stories
about President Trump. Nice to know that some people still
have guts. And people were saying, Yo, that's basically a
(17:54):
crime to do that because you can't communicate that you're
like going to reward somebody for doing the thing you
want them to. Yeah, that is a prima faci witness
tampering so evident on its face that you're like, Okay,
he's just Donald Trump. He strikes me as more of
a um it's easy to ask for He doesn't even
(18:16):
ask for forgiveness, right, It doesn't seem like the sort
of guys seeking out permission, never know. Well, his whole
his whole thing is I never did it. I never
did it. And if you get him, you're like, you
did he goes, well, so what I was allowed? It
was cool and very leasal um. Yeah. And then on
the other hand, I'm seeing a lot of articles from
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people I don't know if it's like pregame jitters or something,
but now that the Mueller Report is probably about to drop,
we're seeing a bunch of articles where it's people being like,
I don't know, five thirty eight road an article being like,
what if this is all we learned from the Mueller Report?
Is like, what has already broken? You know, well in
what sense like that even if it were fully released
(18:59):
to the public, like the knowledge they're in wouldn't be
that he's basically already yeah, that he's basically communicated everything
that he has evidence for. So he's communicated basically that
they definitely know that Russia interfered on Trump's behalf. They
have that, and they have that the people around Trump lied.
But there's not necessarily anything to indicate that they have
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the Trump campaign colluding with Russia or that Trump but
they would, right if it were like if you look
go the Jerome Corsi Wiki leaks route, if you're a
fool enough to believe that Wiki Leaks isn't some arm
of Russian intelligence, and then they're feeding Jerome Corsi information,
who then gives it to Roger Stone. There's all sorts
of reasons that I thought that we had this guy
(19:47):
nailed to the wall. It's unrelenting those and it's been
the whole the whole news cycle since he started. Like
remember like a month or two month, many was like, Oh,
he's gonna it'll be impainched next month, and then it's
like just this constant shifting of the timeline expectations, and
now it feels like, I'd say the truth lies somewhere
in between where it's pregame nerves, where it's like, wow,
(20:07):
you know this is this is kind of quite a
big information jump that's hopefully canna have the impact we want.
And then also it's like, but realistically this will just
be another straw on a very frustratingly powerful camel's back. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Well I think five thirty eight though. Two they don't
want to start spiking football is quite yet, so I
think it behooves them to kind of be like, well,
let's let's ye know what's happened throughout due diligence. And
(20:29):
I know a lot of smart people who are skeptical
that the Muller investigation is going to be the thing
that delivers us from evil. For thine is a kingdom? Ye? Yeah,
should we just go into prayer right now? But yeah,
I mean there's also a piece of vanity fair just
from a you know, Trump hating Mueller investigation skeptic who
(20:52):
was just saying sort of how I feel in the
sense that there is this cycle of hype where it's
some piece of information and break somewhere like we got him,
that's it. Like now, because he's letting Cohen off for
recommending Cohen gets not much of a sentence, or with
Flynn because he's recommending that Flynn get not much of
a sentence, then he must have him on something. But
(21:15):
then that's sort of just fades. And I don't know, well,
I guess we're assuming that he's holding back all these
cards that are going to, you know, put together a
really compelling case, and I just don't know. Well, I
guess I think I've always tried to not let the
Muller investigation be my savior, like mentally, emotionally, because like
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with all the other things that would have completely decimated
any other administration, seem to not work, and I'm like,
we're dealing with something different here. I think it's really
going to be up to the thing that I would
be most politically horny for is to see public sentiment
on the right actually change in one direction about this.
And that is what I feel like a little bit
(21:56):
just like, well, you know, he's going to have the
people on the right in office who were going to
basically protect him. But I wonder what it will take.
I guess the thing I would be excited about if
there were something that would be so just clear, even
if it is something we don't know, but it's just
the details of it became very clear. Were like, oh,
here are the dots connected that if you know what
to see what the response would be from the GOP.
But who knows. It's been a very like watching it
(22:19):
from from a farwers an outside has been a sort
of very slow adjustment of expectations on like how quickly
the Making Nations can tramp the huge the paper trail
of you know, the garbage that he's done. It's like
watching the American continents be like, we'll get him, We'll
get and he's like, well, we'll get you know, maybe
not today, but well not do's heye? You know, yeah,
we're eating away history will be the judge exactly. Uh.
(22:44):
And then we're like yeah, when he's like forever president,
like maybe we can send a time capsule into space.
And also on the subject of the GOP and in
a place where it seems like they might actually be fucked.
North Carolin Line, Yeah, yeah, what's happening literally District nine, yes,
you call it North Carolina's ninth congressional district. So we
(23:07):
talked about how there are tremendous voting irregularities in the
ninth district's congressional race between Mark Harris the Republican and Democrity,
where Mark Harris won by votes, but the Board of
Elections was not willing to certify because they're like, hold,
this is like really shady. There's so much evidence, like
like one of the things even that he got like
(23:30):
sixty percent of the absentee vote in the county, but
like only like I think of the mail in ballots
were requested by Republicans, so he like won over and
then just a wild number of Independence and Democrats apparently
by that math. But now, like as people have slowly
begin to put their eyes on this story and began
(23:51):
asking questions, we're getting more and more details because so
from up top we saw that it seemed like they
were a group of eight people, one of the big
smoking gun things with the eight P bull were signing
on as witnesses to people's ballots, which you need to
sort of be like, Okay, this person like it was
in witness of these other people, we can say that
this was like a proper ballot or whatever. That it
was like eight people who were the witnesses, like like
(24:12):
a hundred thirty ballots or something like that. And now
some reporters, I think local news people went around and
found tried to track down these eight people to try
and see, like, okay, what's at the heart of this.
They spoke with two people, uh, and these women were
like obviously just people who this guy dug up to
go around and steal people's ballots, essentially because they asked, hey,
(24:33):
so what do you know about your work with this
GOP operative, this consultant Leslie McCrae Dallas. And they're like, well,
you know, I was just paid to go to I
had a list of addresses. I would push for them
to maybe support the candidate Mark Harris or the sheriff McVicker. Uh,
and then I would take their ballot and then I
wouldn't mail it off or whatever. I would just give
(24:54):
it back to Dallas. And then I don't know what happened.
And they're like, not even an effort to cover up
what they we don't believe there's idiotic that. They're just
like we just I just did told no. Well, yeah,
when I think these people were because they didn't. They're like,
you know, you can't do They're like, I didn't know.
They were paying me like a hundred bucks a week
to do this, so clearly it wasn't even like the
(25:14):
kind of pay that you give people. You're like, yo,
what we're doing is wildly illegal, right, so sunk up.
If you got to know, tell you whatever you knew.
But this starts to be going to the table. A
lot of these people were like distant relatives of him.
His stepdaughter has been implicated in it too, where she
denied it. When they asked for comment, they're like, but
we have like affidavits from people who when we showed
(25:35):
them your photo they said, yeah, that was the woman
who came to get the thing. But again, hey, it
gets shadier and shadier. And then BuzzFeed published an article
I think yesterday or the day before that gives a
sort of like a peek into the inner workings of
this thing, where I guess this guy, you know, he
was getting a lot of cash from the candidate. Mark
Harrison was just using cash to pay these people to
(25:55):
go pick him up. And so the candidate himself was
giving him he was paying because he was a consultant
and then men and there are a few other people
on that ticket. I'm sure the sheriff McVicker was also
using him as well, because I don't think he was
just having them, you know, be endorsed or have the
people who are picking up the bouts name check him
when they're like police support Mark Harrison, Triff mcficker. So
in this thing, they were saying like a lot of people,
(26:17):
like even the people that were working on it, like
some were like addicted to opioids. Like there's our quote
from this BuzzFeed articles. Said one workers. She said was
so fucking high the other day she passed out at
the fucking computer. One of the workers who collected absentee
ballots from residents was a quote pill head, she said.
And then they go on to sort of saying this
woman they spoke to you said, my job at the
office was I read emails and I counted how many Republicans,
(26:39):
Democrats and non affiliated people voted every day. I added
up how many voted that day, wrote it on a
piece of paper. Then they read it, and then I
don't know what they did with it. And then so
they were like tracking stuff maybe two like you know,
adjust what the levels of shenanigans that were occurring. For
lack of a better word, there, yeah, simply, I guess
it's haying. Fuckery is one we use a lot um.
(27:02):
And then one of the women also said that they
had received money from the county well when BuzzFeed couldn't
verify that, but when they asked someone who worked at
the Board of Elections, one of the supervisors, like the
woman who would have been able to answer that question,
she just, like surprise, resigned last week, like a month early.
I think her term was supposed to go to the
end of the year. So there's just a lot. It's
(27:23):
just the evidence is like mounting more and more, and
now you have people who are straight up saying like, yeah,
I went and got those ballots and I gave it
to this person, right. It's it's exhausting, like the ship
volume and intricacies of the ways in which people are
doing shady stuff like across not just on a nationwide
level but like local but you know, like in stint politics,
(27:44):
and it's I don't even know how you guys can
rap your I mean, you do a grand job, but
rape your hids around. Just the ship volume of factory
that appears to be hitting it every fundamental level of Yeah,
it's it's I don't know, I just look at the news. Wow,
we're really we're going there. And every state has been
doing that, like like we talked about in Wisconsin, the
(28:05):
state Assembly, they're basically completely kneecapped the powers of the
incoming democratic governor. They're trying to pull the same ship
in Ohio and Michigan they did in North Carolina. So
their new tactic is just cheat by fucking any means necessary. Now, Yeah,
and they're like finding like not loopholes. It's just that
I guess there weren't statutes written because people assumed that
(28:27):
we were going to at the very least respect the
structures of government, and then whoever is voted in because
it's a democracy, would rule in that sense. But it's
a I don't know that. I mean, these should be
massive scandals across the country because I still can't believe
the ship that's going on. Yeah, and the mainstream media
when it comes to stuff like this, For instance, with
the Wisconsin thing, I think there was a New York
(28:49):
Times headline the other day that was, like, Wisconsin Republicans
moved to shore up power as like two undercut democrats
as come in. It's just like that's not really what
Like they're basically trying to change the rules of democracy, right,
Like uh, it would be like if I robbed a
bank and it's like man augments wealthy, done right. Yeah.
(29:14):
It seems like when it comes to very foundational assumptions
that the whole society and culture rests on, the mainstream
media doesn't like to like look too closely at that ship. Well,
I guess they don't want to be I think it's
the fear of being accused of them being rabble rousers
by merely reporting on you know what I mean, Because
there is that fear of the right thing that we've
(29:35):
seen in the media play out a lot. But I
don't know, maybe it's just we just don't have proper journalists.
There's a kind of blank you know, the volume and
number of ways in which the entire government are doing
you know, dodgy stuff. It's like it's so much noise
and smoke that it kind of masks like a lot
of the lower Like, you know, it's hard, it's hard
(29:57):
for people to maintain interests and Mike staff to speed
with I mean, you know, like yeah, yeah, it's very
it almost works like all the dodges ship that is
going on at the top level. It's like almost masks
you know. Yeah, all the delightfully shaddy stuff going down
amongst the weeds. Yeah, because the whole buildings aren't fair
and you're like, which fool or should we pay it
to the whole buildings? Does New Zealand work as a society? Yeah,
(30:23):
it's it's it's functional, it's stripped back. Yeah, it appears
to be a slightly more skeletal sort of framework by
which we were buying. There's less of us, and we've
both of our governments are fairly central, like there's not
this huge chasm will divide between right and left as
there is here right now. Wasn't there a president who
like to yanko girls plonytails? Yeah, yeah there was. Yeah,
(30:47):
there's our previous five minutes guy John Kie, who was
very well liked in charge for just shy of nine years.
As a story that yeah, he he was outed for.
He would go to like a local cafe and there
was this a white stuff and he sort of thought
he had quite an enjoyable not flirtatious but you know,
(31:09):
like almost rambunctious relationship with where he thought it was
funny or cool to yank on her pony towel. She
was like, was it's the prime minister? Also, it's like
you just it's such an eccentric behavior, Like no right
thinking person in the world would be like, oh, yeah,
was he married? Yeah, yeah, so he must have like
that sounds very juvenile like that, he must have been
(31:31):
doing that for you. Well, so then it turned out
there were other instances where he had been captured on
camera yanking on woman's Yeah, but it's like that's exactly
part of how it was framed and what made him
appealing and like, you know, mask anything of genuine interest
he was doing was because his outwards facing character was
this like idiotic Larkin who loved to ham it up
(31:52):
and would do all this like dopey ship like that,
which kind of undercuts our intelligent He was, you know,
the furious man you catch up man, our presidents grabbing
people by the genitals. Yeah, that's much more charming the
ponytail thing. Yeah, yeah, and those people. If it was
a binary choice, I would go with that one. All right,
(32:14):
we're gonna take another quick break. We'll be right back,
and we're back. And so a bunch of European and
American doctors and scientists have come out with a study
(32:35):
that proves to me once and for all that those
specific doctors and scientists have mental problems. This is a
very very controversial study, one in which were they're trying
to tell us Americans that potatoes ranked near the bottom
of healthful vegetables and lack the compounds and nutrients found
in green leafy vegetables, and that if you take up potato,
(32:58):
remove its skin where I guess the nutrients are around,
cut it and deep fry the pieces and oil and
top it off all with salt and all this other ship,
that that is a starch bomb that could be quote
a weapon of dietary destruction. They are fucking sick people.
They're saying French fries are bad. Yeah, I mean, yeah,
I know, come on, but but take your head out, man.
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They specifically suggest that you eat only six French fries
per serving, which seems like they don't know what French
fries are. You binge eat them until even when they're cold,
you just keep shoving them into your face. Hole. Yeah, yeah,
I mean, I guess, I guess I always did wonder
because there were so many studies being like, if you
want to eat something that has like a nutritional negative,
(33:44):
eat French fries or whatever. But I was like, well,
then what's the rub here? I guess six French fries
and then maybe some salad. And you can imagine the
pool research assistant who has tasked with rinding up the
findings and the one who's like six ft yeah, finding
out like six French rice. How can you type that
out with it's absolutely it's out of madness, Yeah, it
(34:05):
really is. It doesn't make any sense. I mean, it's
it's I don't know what to say. It just makes
my skin crawl. The science wheel has been flip flowering
on potatoes for a long a long time. You know,
it's always like it's potatoes and bread can't be foods.
You're like, oh, you gotta eat lots of bread. Yeah,
you know a week later you better lay off the bread. Yeah,
(34:26):
you too much bread from a week ago, because it's
really bad. Pretty consistent on the no starch thing for
the past like a couple of decades. And but you
know how many they say the average American needs a
hundred fifteen pounds of potatoes a year. Two thirds of
that usually come in the form of fries, potato chrups,
or frozen or protests potato products. I mean, what the look,
(34:49):
we haven't in the good old days of just going
into a raw skin on potato like an apple. Can
get to this point where by two thirds of the
potatoes we consume have been refined. Yeah, just rock potatoes,
that's what I say. I don't, I don't know, man,
Like I said much in the same way that and
as del Mar couldn't quit Jack twist, I can't quit
these motherfucking fries. I think it's a job. It's on
(35:12):
marketing now, you know. Yeah, it's up to the big
fast food conglomerates to to reframe the way that they
prepare and sell the potatoes. But you know, happy meals
they subbed out fries for fruit. What about a third option,
which is just a small, dirty baby potato, baby potato,
That is the health option. Yeah, I love fries, but
(35:35):
they say, yeah, if you eat fries two to three
times a week, you you definitely increase your die your
risk for mortality. But I think we're all at risk
of and your chance of living your best life. Also
shoots right up the rest of the happening. Exactly, are
you a bigger fry chips fan? I'm your worst nightmare
is a dining companion. Regards to France, I'm like, oh, no, no, no,
(35:57):
I won't order a bottle of fries. Then someone else
in it will be does, and I'm like, I'm gonna
have a couple of right, Yeah I counted him out.
Yeah yeah. So what is your what is your fast food?
Do you have a fast food sort of secret something
you love? No? Well, no, I no, I don't really.
I don't really miss around with fast food too much.
I'm a vegetarian, which sort of means that immediately counts
(36:20):
a lot of that from your Yeah, your sphere. I'm
still a sucker for McDonald's breakfast if I'm ever at
the airport. The McDonald's an't so prevalent of American airports,
but in New Zealand they're They're always there, and it's
like if I have been flying before ten thirty. Although
we just got twenty for our breakfast. But for a
long time, I was always like, oh, well, you know,
I'm going to be getting an egg McMuffin and the
hash brown I'm gonna put the hash brown in the
(36:42):
muffin and then put some Tommy sauce on the bloody
hash brow. Who what's us Tommy tomato sauce? Oh there,
we got Tommy there? What's the Kiwi fast food? Like
it's the same. We just inherited all of your biggest
There's no there's no like uniquely New Zealand fast food. No,
there's like a there's a sort of there was a
(37:03):
run for a while of like slightly more upscale burger
chains which got a lot of traction. But by and large,
we just we took what we were given from you guys.
Is there anything that doesn't translate that people just don't
like in New Zealand? That's huge? Starbucks? Good fun Starbucks? Yeah, good?
Moving on. I think Starbucks tanked in Australia as well.
(37:25):
Huh it was we there's a real bit of coffee
snobbery going on in the interesting Just you guys still
drink coffee. It's just you don't. You got to You
gotta like a specific cafe, right, a place that doesn't
burn the ship out of it. And it's right. Yeah, alright, guys,
let's talk Christmas music. Um, so apparently Baby It's Cold
(37:46):
Outside has been sort of put out to pasture apparently. Yeah. Yeah,
So this is something that I feel like we were
talking about for a long time at Cracked, and I
think basically this was a standard internet comedy observation that
that song is basically dramatizing a date rape of one
(38:09):
man or another. And so radio stations in Canada have
stopped playing it all together. And Piers Morgan, our greatest
cultural commentator, worst fucking arsenal fan tea, I would just
stop being a fan of that team, trust me, if
I know, I can't. If you bigger than what's bigger
(38:30):
than one asshole? Right, there's a joke there, but hard.
So he basically told a woman came on and was like, yeah,
but it just really seems offensive and like he's not
respecting her agency. And Piers Morgan to demonstrate that he
(38:54):
got what she was saying, told her to shut up.
So that was but it sounds like really got the
message on listening to a woman. Yeah, yeah, And so
apparently when it was written, it was written in the
forties and performed by a husband and wife and at
that time, there are a couple ways that you can
look at how the various phrases are taken now versus
(39:18):
how they were originally meant, and it is culturally different.
Like what's in this drink is a thing that somebody
would say if they be draped. No, no, not if
they've been date raped, if they ration might iteration, But
back then it was a way to like excuse your
own behavior, to be like, oh, what's in this drink?
(39:39):
I'm you know, like if you don't have the vocabulary
for date rape yet, right, And they were also saying
that in the original version, it was understood that the
girl wanted to stay, but she didn't want her reputation
tarnished by staying, and that there's that's how it was
originally taken. But regardless, it now reads to anybody who
(40:02):
listens to it that is under the age of seventy five,
as a song in which a man is not respecting
the agency of a woman who is like, I'd really
rather leave. The real loss is the malady. Yeah it's
a beautiful melody. Yeah, it is a fund melody. Well,
then maybe we'll just have to someone will have to
take that melody and then just to give it an update. Yeah,
(40:22):
let's just ask Peter to rewrite that song because Peter
has been rewriting just old old phrases, like Peter that
people will kill two birds with a Yeah, killed two
birds with one stone is feed two birds with one stone,
which doesn't mean the same thing. You gotta you gotta
pick a side, Peter. It kind of like it's either
(40:44):
an equivalency or it's like it's something that sounds similar,
but they've like straddled both to create pure just absolutely
does it beat a dead horse or something like feed
a fed horse? Yeah, it gives a little superfluent it's
a little redundant. Actually feeder horse more than six French friends. So,
(41:08):
like I said, some radio stations have just officially retired
it said, we're not going to play it this year,
and it is I mean, Christmas is the time where
suddenly all these songs from the forties start appearing on
like pop radio stations, and they've just decided to retire this.
And this brought up the question of like what if
we just started retiring a Christmas song every year. Our
(41:30):
writer Jan McNabb suggested that as a yeah, and maybe
you induct a new song into the cannon. The cannon
and cannon can on a on a similar or nights. Sorry,
there's a British comic named Rumish Ranganathan who uh he
proposed the rules for something called wa Mgeddon. What have
(41:51):
you heard of? Wagner? So the basic rules. The first
rule is the objective is to go as long as
possible without hearing Wham's Christmas Classic Class Christmas. That's right.
The second rule is the game starts as soon as
December is upon us, where mgeddon is also upon it's
and it ends you know, as the bell told on
Christmas Eve. The third rule, only the original version of
(42:13):
the song is eligible for the where mcgeddon, so remixes
and whatnot are okay. And then the fourth rule, which
is the sort of the most intriguing part, as you
are as soon as you hear the song, you are
eliminated from where mcgeddon. So it's sort of like, you know,
it's it's it's a it's trying to build a community
of people, you know, because you're trying to avoid hearing
(42:34):
that song absolutely. But then you sort of you you
like fold people into the world of where mcgeddon. So
you tell a significant other all your friends to start
playing it and then you find creative ways to have
them stumble, you know, if you don't want to leave
it up to the gods. Set people up. Yeah, Like
if you've got a phone connected to a Bluetooth speaker
in another room in the house, you're playing where mcgeddon
(42:55):
and they go out to do something and you go bang.
You're listening to Last Christmas, or it's like a Suss
bomb where you just play it for the whole take
out a whole house of everybody. If I can't be
all powerful like a god, I will destroy like a guy.
So what do you think of that song? Because that
was actually a controversial pick. We we were talking about
(43:16):
which songs we'd retire. Super producer Nick Stump I think
had my favorite suggestion, which is rocking around the Christmas Tree.
I love that jazz guitar, those little licks. Yeah, yeah,
I would say twelve Days of Christmas, I'm to go
the funk away. Although I could just listen to song
that went five Golden Rings. That's my favorite part of
(43:39):
the song. Just have somebody rap over this, but it's
just so repetitive that that's one that I have listened
to this year with my son and be like, man,
this is bad music. Yeah, this is so fucking bad.
I guess you could give it like the c I
A trying to like smoke you out of your whole test,
Like if you blasted it on loop, like the one
(44:00):
that would just make you break first, I could see
that actually melting. Yeah, because that song, by its very definition,
by its construction, is on loop. Because you hear whatever,
then I feel like, come December, it's just free rain.
You know, Christmas music can can have his way with
the wicked world. Yeah, but I think an outright ben
(44:21):
you know, January through November is sort of the most Yeah.
I think that's fair. Yeah, yeah, it's the most humane
way to What is your favorite Christmas song? I like,
what is it like Sam Cook who sings though it's
been said many times, many ways? Or is that a
nacking coal? I think it might be nicking might I
(44:41):
might have added myself. Ye, well there's I mean, it's
it's been done by many Yeah, it's it's it's it's
you know. I love that song. Yeah, Mariah Kerry, I
think gets a lot of got a lot of votes
in our office as a as a song as we
shouldn't be a sick person in the office tried to
throw that one on the fire. We said, absolutely not.
You stay away from Mariah. One of mine is I
(45:03):
think we all found out is the Vince Quarre reality
trio of Christmas Times here from the Charlie Brown Christmas favorite.
That's that's cannon for sure. I think we can get
rid of any of the songs that talk about sucking Santa. Yes,
I saw Mommy kissing Santa Claus. Also Santa Baby could
maybe go it implies, I don't know, it's it is
(45:24):
another good melody, though. Yeah, God, seeing that this is
this is the problem. You know. We love the melodies, Yeah,
exchange lyrics. So but what so you you don't like
to think of Sandra's a sexual being songs? One time
I saw Santa sucking my mom. It was at the
mall in the loading dock area, and I was very upset. Why. Yeah,
this this qualifies the opinion question any other questions. Guy,
(45:49):
So it's just such an unlikely trigger, right, I didn't
know what I was, man, That's part of the getting
to know each other process. Guy, It's been a pleasure
of having you, ma'am. Hey, yeah, thanks so much. A
wonderful time. Where can people find you at Guy underscore
Mont on Twitter and Instagram. It's probably the most guaranteed
means of sourcing me. Yeah, all right, And is there
(46:13):
a tweet that you've been enjoying? Ah? Yes, Actually, when
we were just coming in, I saw what I thought
was a funny and timely tweet which was not gonna lie.
This got me choked up. And then it's an image
of George W. Bush and quotations as though this is
why he said while eulogizing has recently passed father, and
(46:33):
it says he wasn't just the forty one president of
the United States, he was also the forty one president
of my dad. He's also the party of a friend
of my dad. Miles where Yeah, where people find Twitter
and Instagram at Miles of Grace and please I like
(46:55):
they come from Reductress as usual. One is just says
it's a woman in this like really picturesque winter setting
with a nice coat on. It's is four dramatic coats
that will have people like, oh no, here she comes, uh.
And another one that says it looks like just a
nice older mom wearing a T shirt with a kind
of concerned look on her face and says obsessed much
(47:16):
this mom wants to know of her daughters alive. I
could not find another tweet about bootcut jeans unfortunately, Uh.
Pixelated Boat tweeted Wow the Captain Marvel trailer proves once
again that Marvel is at the forefront of making movies.
I might watch on a plane in four years, which
is how I consume most Marvel movies the way God
(47:38):
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write out on miles What is that going to be today?
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This song is going to be from Pan Amsterdam, Little raph.
This the track is called Landlord Elijah and I really
like the production on it. If you're well the sample
Bay's beakhead like me, You're gonna like this little rapid dud.
Check that out. Check it out. We're gonna write out
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contend this because we only be five tenants, no heat,
hot water. Landlord ran out of the oil confront him,
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we're going up. This was worse than we have That
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